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>This is why shorts were so determined. Silver was absolutely a beach ball held underwater

https://x.com/ThHappyHawaiian/status/1995297236163420654

Bitcoin crashed down through $87

I've updated my meme for everyone to enjoy

>>11934

And here's another one updated to today.

>>11936

Kyosaki is definitely a shameless grifter who would do anything for jewbucks.

Meanwhile, looks like someone found a bunch of silver to sell. Lol. The niggers really can't help themselves can they?

At the end of the day, there's not enough silver. At least lowering the spot helps the stackers.

>>11938

>Kiyosaki probably isn't a "plant"

>>11756

How to identify a jew.

December 1 numbers from SGE/SHFE and current GSR

>>11943

In another thread someone was explaining how Kiyosaki actually retconned his own history, and really made his money from his fictional book and grifting multi thousand dollar courses, and THEN bought into real estate.

I don't have a dog in this fight, other than having come to the conclusion that he's an opportunistic grifter whose opinion on anything should be discarded because he lies.

Even his military history is likely mostly fabricated because he won't release his service records. At best he is a boomer grifter who jumps in front of a parade and pretends to be leading it. At worst, he's a complete con-artist scammer who deserves to be in jail for ripping people off.

https://marketrealist.com/personal-finance/robert-kiyosaki-fraud/

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/1146230-got-scammed-by-robert-kiyosaki-author-of-rich-dad-poor-dad

https://www.avaresearch.com/new/public/articles/crooks-liars-idiots/29-reasons-why-robert-kiyosaki-is-a-disinfo-con-man-and-fraud

And then one day, for now reason at all…

SILBER 50,11 EUR/oz

>>11946

>And then one day, for now reason at all…

>SILBER 50,11 EUR/oz

Someday you will look back and remember when fifty euro silver was cheap.

COMEX might be entering crisis mode very soon.

>“No way the COMEX allows the registered balance to dip below 50m oz. They will start forcing SOME LIMITED cash settlements between 50m and 100m and will SHUT IT DOWN if it hits 50m or below.

>You can let people know that 50m to 100m of registered (free float) is the yellow caution zone for comex silver. Once it hits around 50m it’s CODE RED.” - Bob

https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1995497215079698757

>>11950

Gold/Silver ratio is now down to 72:1

>Silver is now set to post its first 12-month candlestick with a 100%+ gain since 1979.

>This does not happen in "normal" markets.

>Asset owners are winning.

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1995492405685129297

The value of my stack increased by over $15,000 today

>>11948

I already bought as much as I could near the end of last week, before it started pumping. I'll try to go by the ATM again and see if it works now.

>>11954

>>11946

>>11948

I will become the squirrel, I will become the squirrel, I will…

>>11959

I have similar sentiments. It's tempered by the realization that when the inevitable market correction comes, many otherwise decent people will get wrecked.

It's like seeing the trolley problem in advance, and watching it happen in slow motion in realtime, and knowing there's nothing that can be done to stop it.

>>11960

What's really messing me up is that I still feel like a stacklet. I'm probably still going to get rekt as things sort themselves out, just less rekt than my peers. It'd be easier to sit comfy while the world stacks up the kindling to burn itself if I had like a 1000+ ounce stack, but I'm nowhere near that. Instead I'm sitting here, hoping what I've done will be enough while pinching pennies to do a little more. It just really sucks to spend over double per tube what I was when I started, even if in the long run I'll kick myself for not going full hog while shiny is still this "cheap."

Silver shorts over the last 7 days.

>>11964

You're having the normal experience of trying to extrapolate from today.

If a the market crashes (systemic failure) several things will happen. We know the government will spool up the printers.

-There may be bail-ins.

-There may be bank holidays. (to prevent bank runs)

-There will be chaos as people panic and try to go risk-off when the markets may be closed.

-There may be runs on the grocery stores (like the toiletpaper panic)

BEST case scenario is everything freezes up for a week or two while the government and the Fed print and dispense enough money to settle things down. Expect an immediate and significant jump in the inflation level.

More likely scenario is the crash takes down the US dollar as reserve currency, triggering a flight of $5 trillion that is currently outside the US banking system to flood back in. Needless to say this will immediately drop the value of the greenback by 50% or more. This in itself could trigger massive counterparty failures.

Worst case scenario, the crash causes worldwide systemic financial collapse, crashing supply chains everwhere. There are several quadrillion in derivative exposure and this takes everything down. You can't just recreate a new digital currency and expect everything to resume where it left off. There would be at least a month of supply disruption and untold numbers of people would die.

In all of these scenarios, stackers come out the best, and silver might be expected to go up in real purchasing by an order of magnitude (ie whatever today's $600+ would buy inflation adjusted) or more.

In the worst case scenario, 98% of people will have nothing but their personal belongings, vehicles & homes, (if paid off) and little else aside from their looks and personal talents. Needless to say, when the financial system is down, property values will drop possibly by more than an order of magnitude. At least briefly.

Even a modest stacker with under 100 oz will be the one eyed man in the land of the blind. That's why I keep emphasizing beans, bullets, bullion are all needed. In the worst case scenario there will be limited store resupply, high prices, and limited government services, including undependable police services.

Diversity is our strength. BankerWeimar lives in the Chicago area if I'm not mistaken.

Value vs volume of precious metals.

>$100M of gold fits in the trunk of my sedan

>$100M of silver fits in 3 fully loaded semis

>$100M of copper fits in 500 fully loaded semis

>This is why gold and silver are so special.

>Ubiquitously valued.

>Easily stored and verified.

>Affordably transported.

>Copper is a nightmare as a store of value. Too cumbersome and costly to transport

https://x.com/davidbateman/status/1995613323728224358

We've already hit $58, so I think the real battle is to keep it below $59 which is why the shorts are fighting tooth and nail. There is over a billion oz of shorts outstanding, much of it below $45, so more than $57 billion exposure, at least $10 billion net loss….SO FAR. The longer they wait to close out those shorts, the worse it gets for them.

Obviously these clowns are backstopped by the US government/Fed, but it will be a tough expense to justify, especially when it results in a silver shortage crisis that makes the price go even higher.

>We lost billions keeping the price of silver low for China, in order to make the US dollar look less shitty, and ended up making the silver price moon anyway.

I can think of at least one appropriate punishment for the bankers.

It's looking like we might be headed into a perfect storm for silver with economic uncertainty pushing people into PMs, at the same time that industrial demand is higher than ever and mine output has been in deficit for the last 7 years.

>Swiss Silver Expert J. Staiger

>DESPERATE MEASURES BY BIG PLAYERS

>The tightness is forcing extreme actions in the physical market.

>⚡ Major trading houses are calling mines directly, offering premiums of up to 20% over spot for long-term delivery contracts.

>⚡ Turkey is now importing massive amounts of silver monthly, as gold becomes scarce.

>THE VAULTS ARE RUNNING DRY

>The physical data reveals a market in extreme stress.

>Shanghai Crisis: Silver inventories have hit a 10-year low.

>Record Deficit: The cumulative 7-year supply deficit now exceeds 1.2 Billion ounces.

>THE DELIVERY SYSTEM IS CRACKING

>Key trading hubs are showing unprecedented strain.

>➡️ COMEX (NY): The recent "server failure" on Notice Day (Nov 28) raised eyebrows amidst a scramble for metal.

>➡️ LBMA (London): Reportedly had to airlift ~54M ounces via private flights to avoid breaking. Only 15-20% of their silver is "free" for delivery; the rest is owned by ETFs and institutions.

>THE TECHNICAL PICTURE: BROKEN OUT

>The price action confirms the fundamental story.

>➡️ Silver has decisively broken out to new all-time highs.

>➡️ Next technical targets are seen at $63, then $80+.

>"Delivery Claus is coming… and he wants his silver.

>Buckle up.”

https://x.com/Mark4XX/status/1995403077357084792

Matt Bracken is a former US Navy SEAL.

>Most of the analysts who study precious metals are missing a huge part of the picture, in my humble inexpert opinion.

>They correctly note #1 and #2, but they totally miss the so-far unseen #2.

>So what drives the upward price of silver?

>1. Silver as the secondary monetary metal, behind gold. As the dollar falls, both will rise, obviously.

>2. Silver as a metal needed in modern industry. You can't build a missile, a jet or an EV car without silver. And unlike gold, when silver is used in this way, it's gone, lowering the world supply. And you can't just "open up a new silver mine" and start extracting more silver. This takes years, at great cost and effort.

>Everybody acknowledges #1 and #2 in the current rise of the value of silver. But they are missing the third and forgotten leg of the stool. What is #3?

>3. Silver as an everyday means of retail exchange. As the dollar collapses in value, more and more people will begin to use silver to make purchases. This will begin at farmers markets and swap meets. It will spread to other retail outlets which will accept silver, with its steady value, in lieu of dollars, as a hedge against inflation.

>This won't happen during the deflationary opening stage of a recession/depression/stagflation. But when the govt. turns on the electronic printing presses to inflate its way out of its debt, and pay its obligations in worthless fiat dollars, then silver will shine. People will begin to offer silver coins to make everyday purchases, and merchants will gladly take them.

>As silver coins gain "market share" at the retail level, demand for silver coins will soar. Barter only goes so far before it gridlocks. Will you take a bunch of shirts to a swap meet, hoping to buy some beef, if the beef seller doesn't need any shirts? Then what? Try to make a three way trade? Barter is a necessary first step, but barter freezes up. This is why money exists.

>And gold is much too valuable to use for small everyday purchases. A (rare) 1/10 ounce gold coin is worth $425 at today's spot price.

>The use of silver coins (junk silver and generic "silver rounds") will begin slowly, but it will steadily increase, pushing the gold to silver ratio back toward the historical norm of 15-1.

https://x.com/Matt_Bracken48/status/1995498487941611535

>>11973

Using silver as money if the US dollar hyperinflates. All the guys who loaded up on junk silver will be the true champions.

>And when inflation really kicks off, when an EBT card with a trillion dollars on it will only buy 3 eggs, and supply chains break down and stores are looted, what will merchants with anything of value to sell prefer? Hyperinflating dollars, or silver and gold?

>Gold will be for major purchases like land, houses, and vehicles. Silver will be for buying the everyday necessities. Food, gasoline etc. When and where you can find them.

>In Zimbabwe and other nations that have experienced hyperinflation, a parallel economy using U.S. dollars and other "strong" currencies always develops.

>But if the dollar itself collapses, what will be its backstop? All the analysts who talk and write about the end of the debt cycle and a possible collapse in the value of the dollar, speak about a transition to a "stable coin" or a CBDC economy. As if this bridge to the future will somehow just magically appear.

>But I see a gaping chasm between the current dollar system and whatever is eventually going to replace it. I believe there will be a period like the year 2000 in Argentina, with bank closures and total chaos. During this period, for many people with foresight, silver coins will help to fill the gap. Eventually a new monetary system will emerge, but you will have to survive some very rough months or years before this comes about.

>It's just my opinion. You pays your money, and you takes your chances.

https://x.com/Matt_Bracken48/status/1995501600673046716

One particular ethnic group isn't merely assocated with Central Banking, they also have a strong affinity for control of media organs.

>Jefferson Davis wrote, "I worked night and day for twelve years to prevent the War, but I could not. The North was mad and blind, would not let us govern ourselves, and so the War came."

>He said, "for 12 years." Notice anything?

>Well, subtract 12 from 1860 = 1848. If you want to get technical, subtract 12 from 1861 = 1849. So ask yourself, what happened to our country, starting in 1848 to 1849?

>Still don't notice anything?

>America's jewish population grew from less than 2,500 in 1800 to well over 150,000 by the eve of the War.

>But John, what does that have to do with anything?!

>The "revolutionaries" of the failed communist revolution of 1848 started flooding our country after being kicked out of theirs, in 1848 to 1849. Many of these "Forty-Eighters" were jewish and German-jews. Abraham Lincoln conspired with the Forty-Eighters to get elected, and in 1859 he even purchased the printing press and German type for the Illinois Staats-Anzeiger newspaper, allowing its editor Theodore Canisius, who was also a Forty-Eighter, to use the equipment.

>Many of the Forty-Eighters who came to America flocked to Northern and Midwestern states and joined the Republican party. During the first GOP convention, one of the main objectives of the Forty-Eighters was to assure that, "Puritans and native-born Americans" would not control the party. Also, the Wide Awakes of 1860 who also consisted of many Forty-Eighters marched by the thousands throughout the North to help get Lincoln elected by force.

>Do you understand now? Have I made you aware of who caused the War?

https://x.com/JohnnyReb1989/status/1995245692202467671

>>11971

Did someone say Shorts?

>Did the bullion banks lose $50 BILLION on their silver shorts derivatives positions over just the past 2 days!?! 🚨🚨

>Fed Standing #Repo Facility Tapped for $25 BILLION Monday! 🏦

>➡️This follows Friday 11/28 when TBTF banks tapped the SRF for $24.4 Billion!!

>$49.4 BILLION in liquidity injected into the banking system over the past 2 business days!

>Are the bullion banks' #silver short positions BURNING THEM ALIVE!?!

https://x.com/silvertrade/status/1995547849556382043

>>11956

All of these jerk-offs writing green text style posts but it's obviously an llm. We are still undervalued at this point. Silver hasn't ran anywhere. Normong is not talking about silver. It's not in the press. The price increase we've seen is just fiat losing value. I believe that the $1000 Silver is realistic however. But they'll have to put the Kaibosh on the Fed Dollar and ASSURE EVERYONE they are using silver again. This is in the USA, idk how the NuMark (€) functions. Maybe French anon can extrapolate. I think the French will be okay because the Franc is still produced, it's just not used in France. There would be no currency reintroduction just a repegging of the franc to the supposed silver and trust. Canada I believe an anon said it's essentially a Crown possesion in name but HM allows for the US Corporate Entity to administer its dollars at a lesser value. Aussies I believe the same as Canada after they decimalized. Returning to the old monetary order of £sd.

>>11977

>All of these jerk-offs writing green text style posts but it's obviously an llm.

That's me. What's an llm?

>>11979

Large language model. These dudes echoing into twitter sound like they're coming up with these ideas and running them through an LLM program to garner attention. I don't believe anything on such accounts, and I believe anyone t hat engages with social media outs themselves as a plant or a useful idiot. Outside of forums I don't think there's much use for the internet post LLM and post Jeet. Normalfags coming online in 1994 and 2007 was bad enough. Phonefags. But old people using the chatbot is absolute worst. I even notice people who use chatbot start to mimic the vernacular in speech. I've noticed the - emdash - to be used much more post LLM as well as this weird cadence one of those posts you put up had. Where it's this gay "BUT GUESS WHAT. THATS NOT ALL ARE YOU GETTING IT YET"

Do people engage with this ass and not feel like they're being condescended? It's a speech pattern midway between Marvel capeslop and Ancient Aliens on the history channel.

>>11980

I just realised that as AI slop infiltrates every medium and especially if people get more foolish - that more and more people will instinctively begin to imitate AI’s style of writing (idea-focused, artificially emotion-charged, and ultimately unnuanced). I imagine that its already happening to the 12-14 year olds in AI-integrated societies.

>>11981

I noticed it with the old people too. I remember that predictive programming movie with the slut and and the rape victim, HER, it was called. Writing consolation letters to dead people using a hired service. Once this plug is pulled we are going back to the art styles and average lay abilities of around 500-1300 Anno Domini

SGE/SHFE numbers for Dec 2, and current GSR .

US 401(k) plans will be allowed to invest in PMs starting in Feb, which might be after silver already hits $100.

>Talk about pouring gasoline on fire quietly… The more you learn…

>“U.S. 401(k) plans can include precious metals starting February 2026 per a Trump executive order from August 2025.

>This order directs the Department of Labor to clarify fiduciary rules by February 3, 2026, enabling diversification into alternatives like gold and silver, potentially channeling billions from $7.5 trillion in 401(k) assets into metals.”

>Few people or experts even mentioned or talked about this…

https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1995821673308909906