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We're expecting $4500 gold and $50+ by the end of the year for silver according to Jeff Currie, a man not known for his optimism on silver pricing.

He's expecting $5000+ quarterly average for gold in 2026 but won't say about silver.

Michael Oliver on the other hand has upgraded his price expectations for silver for 2026 to between $100 and $200.

Silver will never be as good a value as it is today frens. May your finances be willing and your conviction be strong.

Oh my FUCKING god it's beautiful

>>10762

I just realized the second pic was the backside. It looks cast. Nice to see you got it. Next up, the larger bar. I'm more familiar with the top one in my pic, it looks like the bottom one is similar to what you have.

>>10764

God willing, I can get a 1000oz bar next year, before they're completely out of reach.

>>10765

Good luck fighting the Chinese and Indians over one. They advantage you have over your competition is at least you can lift and carry one by yourself. Or at least with some minimal help from your little friend.

>>10767

I just stacked up 1000oz on my desk for a comparison, and imagining all of this weight in a single bar is literally causing my mouth to water.

I bought some 5 kilo coins when they were the lowest premium silver, but I still question if that was a good idea. The bigger sizes aren't terribly practical, unless you're stacking silver by the ton (and then ok you really need big bars).

>>10768

The average European male can lift 31.1 kilograms with one hand so long as there is a horizontal handle to grip.

I'm sure you're also aware, but for anyone else in this thread might not know that LBMA bars are allowed a +- 5% weight tolerance, ie, plus or minus 50 oz.

Very few bars are actually exactly 1000 oz.

>>10769

It's a great deal for you if you still have them when the market gets really tight and price jumps up to $200/oz. It may offer a lower premium than US Eagles, but you acquired more oz per Euro, so will make it up on the greater number of total oz. I have to admit, a 5kg coin is pretty cool. I would have bought them if the were the cheapest available silver when we were buying.

David Bateman, with his 12 million oz wrote that it will go back to a COMEX type organization when he decides to sell.

https://ir.amark.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/211/a-mark-precious-metals-to-become-gold-com-and-transfer-to

A-Mark, the largest precious metals conglomerate that owns a ton of retailers and mints, is now rebranding to "Gold.com" and getting listed under stock ticker GOLD next month. Get your A-Mark bars now before they're high premium collectables I suppose.

>>10773

Is picrel true.

Thinking of just following the daily cost averaging advice and buying 20 oz of silver once a month with surplus money

>>10774

> Are you actually the big ark stacker too?

I saw someone else post one of these 5-kilo arks a long while ago (can't remember exactly when). So I'm not the only buyer. But he actually opened the box, mine are still sealed. And so are the 1-kilo arks that I bought (but those ones are only in plastic, they don't have a fancy wooden box).

Anyway I stopped buying them when the dip happened during fall 2022, and other low-premium options became available.

Pic are my newest coins (from last month).

>In 1968, the #GOLD mask of Tutankhamun was X-rayed.

>Through X-ray imaging technology, the #Gold mask of King Tutankhamun was observed. Until recently, archaeologists believed that this mask was made from a single piece of gold. But to their surprise, when they used X-rays to examine the mask, they discovered something unexpected.

>The X-rays showed that the mask was actually composed of multiple parts, meticulously connected together with extremely precise welding techniques, so fine that it was invisible to the naked eye.

>At that time, everyone was amazed by the level of knowledge and technological advancement in metallurgy and gold craftsmanship achieved by ancient Egyptian civilization.

https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1987232532946165885

Looks like we are approaching the endgame for COMEX/LBMA. The vaults are still draining. Increasing the price causes a run, holding the price causes stackers and industry to gorge.

Force majeure isn't an easy way out because it's a default, and it means the LBMA/COMEX lose their price setting power. Paper market price means nothing if there is no physical silver available at their so called "market price". Pricing power moves to the next exchange that actually has physical available, but even the Chinese vaults are showing a decreasing inventory.

>The silver market traded 432 million paper ounces yesterday. The comex had 86 deliveries and the LBMA had 14. You are witnessing the perfect storm to watch the naked shorts die an incredible death. Force majuere IMO will be the way the banks weasel out of this mess.

https://x.com/Thedudesetx00/status/1987160514267382036

SLV still seems to be a magical source of almost unlimited shares for shorting the market. We know SLV has played magical silver delivery games before.

>SLV

>My "canary in the silver mine" had another quiet day yesterday. SLV shares available to borrow started the day around 600K and finished around 1.8M. The borrow fee was mostly around 1.64% all day. Somehow the shares available to borrow keep increasing by 1M or so every time they get low even though Blackrock keeps reporting that shares are disappearing.

>Blackrock reported another decrease of 900K shares and JPM reported an outflow of 815.8K ozt (~25.4 metric tons) to the vault stock. SLV has shed vault stock for four days in a row now.

https://x.com/pmbug/status/1987228879447335259

>>10761

Michael Oliver on the other hand has upgraded his price expectations for silver for 2026 to between $100 and $200.

>Michael Oliver just shocked the commodity world:

He’s scrapped his $60–70 target for silver and now sees $100–200/oz within two quarters.

The Market Sniper (Francis Hunt) discretely names the who. The "networked cabal" tends to share one specific ethnicity, and they inevitably end up pissing off the native populations of their host nations to the point where they get thrown out. This has happened repeatedly throughout history

https://x.com/themarketsniper/status/1986926702388277345

Seems like alright prices on some of the older ones.

I am beginning to think that Trump will go down in history as the bumblefuck who just couldn't stop sucking jew cock. The cherry on top will be his family's insider trading and sweetheart deal scandals.

>50y mortgage = 2x the total interest payments

This is a win for the banks, not home buyers.

>On a $400k loan at 6%, you're only saving roughly $166 per month versus a 30 year mortgage. That's pocket change. The catch is you'll pay roughly double the principal amount in interest over the life of the loan we're talking $863k instead of $418k. Lenders will also charge you an extra 0.3-0.5% just for the extended term which basically erases whatever payment relief you were supposed to get.

https://x.com/FinanceLancelot/status/1987270538905956705

>>10785

The thing that seems to most bizarre to me as a non-american, about Donald Trump, is that his voters, and supporters on 4chan, seem to somehow view themselves as quasi-anarchists of some sort, going 'against the system', 'breaking the status quo', that kind of thing, when Donald Trump is more or less the walking human embodiment of The System, a man who is rich because his father was rich, commits endless crimes without consequences that would get any normal person imprisoned, has full control of every single media outlet, is personal friends with the owners of every major corporation, and has never done even a single days labour in his life, I would posit with confidence that Trump has never, even once, lifted an object weighing more than 25kg, not ever.

He is the single most shining example of a gilded spoon soft-boy who's spent his entire life being shepherded from expensive dinner to expensive luxury hotel, without ever earning even a single penny of it. Yet somehow he seems to get support from people who 'hate the government' and are roughneck impoverished 'outsiders', it doesn't make any sense from over here.

>>10786

While I believe much of what you wrote is accurate, I want to add some nuance. Trump is definitely a creature who owes his current situation to wealthy jews. He's been bailed out by jews multiple times, not unlike Churchill. Trump is a narcissistic, self agrandizing (I repeat myself) grifty NY real estate developer who appears completely ignorant of real estate market cycles. Trump has been on the verge of bankruptcy several times, only to be bailed out by jew financiers who were gambling that Trump might become useful to jews at some future point in his life.

Bearing in mind that jews are not a monolithic entity, there are competing factions of jews, and despite the fact that they all share one overriding goal, (the continued political and economic dominance by jews) Trump is only aligned with one subset of them. Other subsets of jews hate Trump intensely because he ruined their previous plans (including billion dollar investments) involving Hillary. Think Stalin vs Trotsky.

If Trump effectively loses power in the 2026 mid-term elections, it's over for him and his family. There will be nowhere to hide, other than begging Putin for asylum.

>>10787

Here's a question: What silver coins make the best rings? I'm thinking Philharmonics are an option. Maples would make a poor choice because of the lack of interesting edge detail.

>>10778

I always think about that when I trade with my LCS. Feels funny giving Monopoly money for something real.

Anyway as far as the Trump convo is going, I am pretty convinced whatever we were told about American was heavily obfuscated propaganda or misinformation. Whatever misconceptions we have or had about him as a nation are built upon the lies of the past. Maybe there has always been a ruling class and peasant people believing in myths everywhere.

Hope it doesn’t sound to self-aggrandizing to say I feel like I’m in between wealthy lizard people and fools all the time. There’s some very thoughtful and good people but the really sad thing I feel is that most people are evil just too stupid to take advantage of others successfully.

We know things are about to happen in silver before the end of the year, even according to Jeff Christian of the CPM Group, who are shills paid to help suppress investment demand in silver. The CPM Group is the org. that released the 54 billion oz of available silver nonsense, (54 billion is the total amount ever mined in human history) and now are releasing a report that Gold will be $4500 by the end of this year. They won't give a prediction for silver.

The CPM Group is also predicting a $5000 average price of gold in the second quarter 2026, and again won't commit to a silver forecast.

If the 80:1 ratio holds, $4500 gold equates to a $56.25 per oz silver. $5000 gold equates to a $62.50 silver.

>Next week could be the week that silver breaks free from decades of silver price suppression.

>Buy physical silver coins and bars this weekend. Not financial advice.

>Common sense!

https://x.com/mothersilverape/status/1986999769550737814

Why the AI bubble is popping right now, explained in a little over a minute and a half.

Feel free to repost this video on 4chan.

https://x.com/JG_Nuke/status/1915534596445270238

Got silver, gold?

>Trump predicts $20 trillion could be injected into the U.S. economy by the end of this year.

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1987279211426373962

Patriotic Canadian silver.

https://x.com/SilverLynx5150/status/1953169544627011606

>>10803

Glencore is closing it's largest copper operations in Canada over increasing environmental costs. I a cursory search did not indicate if there was byproduct gold and silver being produced as well.

https://x.com/MarketManiaCa/status/1985436823984722407

>Glencore (OTCPK:GLCNF) (OTCPK:GLNCY) is planning to shut its Horne smelter, Canada's largest copper metal producing operation, due to environmental issues and the large expenses needed to upgrade the facility, Reuters reported Monday, although the company said it is not currently considering the closure of the smelter.

>While both plants will be closed, no date has been established yet, according to the report, which also said the operation potentially requires more than $200 million to modernize.

>The closure of Horne, which produces an estimated 300,000-plus metric tons/year of copper, would reinforce forecasts of global shortages partly due to supply disruptions including accidents at mines in Indonesia and Chile.

>>10789

Here's a Weiner ring.

Hey, frens. I just got an email that the Pheli Mint is having a sale. They sell a bunch of unique/weird semi-numismatic pieces. The design choices may not be to everyone's tastes, but more importantly they're selling for $49 an ounce, $12 shipping, and no tax for cuck staters. I grabbed a few of these John Wick fellas. https://www.phelimint.com/collections/at-spot-blow-out-sale

>>10759

redpill me on 8chan etiquette frens, why do we rebake when there doesn't seem to be an auto-sage limit?

>>10808

>For one thing, he completely derailed the DEI train.

I'm not an American, but if I was, I would have voted for Trump, because despite all his flaws, I don't sense that he actually hates America, and there was the possibility that his narcissism would work to America's advantage because by being a truly good for the country, he would increase the chance of getting widely acclaimed as being one of the greatest Presidents, and perhaps even getting a shot to be on Mt. Rushmore.

Nearly every other politician, with examples so rare I can list, (Ron/Rand Paul, MTG, Massie) nearly of them fall into either of two groups: 1, they hate the USA and want to destroy it (Schumer, Obama) or 2, they are greedy, corrupt, compromised, sold their souls to the devil types (McConnell, Mike Johnson, Lindsay Graham).

Trump still has some time, and he has shown some small awareness of the concerns of his base, so the story isn't over, but so far it's not looking good.

Most Europeans (and Canadians) are completely at the mercy of their own media propaganda so they haven't actually heard much of what Trump says, aside from curated soundbites. Trump supporters suffer from the same limitation, but in reverse, only hearing mostly the based things he's said.

In my opinion, Trump is a highly intelligent man, but his intelligence is innate, relatively untrained, and very narrowly focussed on his specific area of expertise. (NY real estate developer)

Trump isn't an autistic systematizer. He doesn't form higher order principles. All his successful business instincts are geared towards expediency and seeking immediately profitable deals, which may work fine when dealing with corrupt NY zoning bureaucrats, extortive trade unions, and jewish financiers, but are a disaster when applied to statecraft, legal precedent and national security issues.

His flexibility and expedience manifest as contradictions and flip flops. His base only hears a portion of what Trump says. His enemies only hear a different portion of what he says. No one actually knows what Trump will do in a given context, and some are starting to believe that Trump's decisions are largely influenced by the jews and the billionaires that he has surrounded himself with, as a condition he accepted in order to get the support needed to become President.

Does anyone believe that Susie Wiles was Trump's personal first choice? Or Lutnik? Or Rubio? Does anyone with a brain doubt that the reason why Trump dropped the Epstein files like it was a kilogram of pure radium was because Epstein was running a blackmail/influence operation on behalf of Israel?

It could very well be that things are already too far gone to save America. Breakup/civil war could be inevitable at this point, in which case voting for Trump would have been a mistake. Better to have a Kamala who would have triggered a civil war in the near future than a Trump who would manage a more gradual decline while anesthetizing a large part of the conservative base with the hope that they can "trust the plan" until it's too late.

We won't know which is the case until the end of the Trump Presidency. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Picrel, selected pro/anti Trump memes.

>>10811

I should add that my hastily unproofread post implied that the only honest US politicians were those few I listed. There are other past and present honest politicians I'm aware of, and likely some I'm not aware of. Devin Nunes, Matt Gaetz, Ron Johnson also appear to be good ones, and there are others I have not listed.

The overwhelming majority of politicians EVERYWHERE, including the USA, Canada, UK, EU, are absolute dogshit, and I hold them in lower regard than I do ostriches.

You are a man of class and distinction.

There's not enough physical silver.

>If every American spent just ➡️HALF of their $2000 check on physical silver, that would be a whopping 5.21 billion ounces of silver.

>Annual supply from the mines are only 850 million ounces

>There’s simply not enough CRITICAL SILVER

https://x.com/Transittometals/status/1987563243468923309

Poor image quality but I have to glaze BaldGuyMoney as one of the strongest YouTubers in the precious metals space. I know it might sound like I’m shilling for him, but honestly most of the PM channels I see are some dude yapping daily with just a stack of gold in the background. Very lazy quantity over quality attempts. These infographics he provided in his latest video were top-tier.

Extremely based.

>>10811

Trump has connections, that's the only thing that matters. People like him and Bill Gates aren't where they are because they worked hard and climbed up the ladder. Bill Gates doesn't know jack about computers, his software always sucked. He managed to get the contract to provide DOS for IBM PC instead of Digital Research who were the first choice at the time (a solid choice, considering their track record with CP/M). Microsoft only had a BASIC interpreter and not much else at the time. So this contract was a critical juncture, and they got it somehow, because someone in the background (his dad) pulled some strings. They created a situation where IBM decided they "needed" to sign the contract at the exact time when the Digital Research CEO was on vacation. That allowed Bill Gates to come to the rescue and save the day. What a great man, a true superhero!

>>10814

You don't even need a big gold bar for this. I was amazed the first time I picked up a small tube of krugerrands (it had somewhere between 15-20 coins, can't remember exactly).

>>10825

I've thought about it. On the other hand we have 751 posts per thread to play with and 4 images per post.

US interest payments are $1.2 trillion per year. The US defense budget is $1 trillion/year.

>When your interest payments exceed your defense budget, you are no longer a superpower. You are a debtor with a printing press.

>The rest of the world just realized it.

>Gold standard returns by necessity, not choice. The fracture is irreversible. The math is final.

>Watch Treasury auctions. Watch gold. Watch the system break in real time.

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/1987415169568547271

>>10816

Will the $2000 tarriff check be coming with the $5000 DOGE check?

>>10827

Scott Bessent has started trying to walk back the $2000 stimmie check, suggesting it might take the form of a tax rebate. I don't have the video handy, but when I find it will link it. If Trump had his way, he would print a custom $2000 banknote with Trump's face on it.

>From A female Stacker

>Invest like your life depends on it because it does.

>Sound Money

>Ounces

https://x.com/awakensoulslove/status/1986234851666854345

Paper markets are fiction

>Spot price is fiction.

>Physical silver is truth.

>Try buying 100oz and see the premium.

>Try finding delivery next week.

>The market’s broken, but few care.

https://x.com/peer_metals/status/1987182574624776598

>>10833

Nah

Most people don't realize how little physical silver is available. Stackers do.

>If every Tesla owner bought just 10 oz of silver, the entire annual supply would disappear.

>Metal scarcity > hype.

https://x.com/soundmoney00/status/1987563016246751362

House prices, priced in silver, have gone down over the past 25 years.

Buy now if you want < $60 dollar silver.

>This is a daily chart of spot gold. My next price target for gold is $4.9k (could overshoot to $5k) , which could be achieved in two legs.

>First target for gold $4.6k and silver $64 (gold to silver ratio (GTS) immediate support is at 75).

>Second target $4.9k gold, $85 silver price (GTS immediate next support 57).

>Metals should slowly start moving higher starting from the next week as I would like to see gold at $4.6k and silver $64 before the end of the year…

https://x.com/hajiyev_rashad/status/1987400164798058606

Turns out Real Silver Wars was right, the Silver Institute was just another organ of silver price manipulation, misleading the markets and fudging industry data regarding the true net silver deficits.

>THE GREAT PHYSICAL SILVER CONSPIRACY!!

>I had Grok run an Analysis on the Silver Survey low balling the amount of Silver used in PV Solar for the past 10 years…. Conclusion: The Silver Institute has systematically under reported PV silver demand by 50–150% annually, with a cumulative shortfall of nearly 1 billion troy ounces over the decade. Real-world manufacturing data shows silver use is ~1.8× higher than officially acknowledged.

https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_9967b29c-594a-4401-bf7a-76c049aeef04

https://www.silverwars.com/the-hidden-power-behind-precious-metals-data-klein-saks-group/

>>10841

>>10841

>>10832

This is truth, despite that the price has theoretically gone down ~15% from its peak, the actual price of Silver you can buy has barely moved at all.

Here in the UK especially, every single site raised their premiums continually to maintain Silver at its peak price, it literally hasn't dropped at all.

Pic rel, "best value" silver at $58.74/oz

>>10844

Okay, so approx 1/8 oz. Is it an original $2.50 gold coin? If so, very nice. If not, still very cool.

Blink once for yes

>>10847

It works in our favour though, if they keep the paper price suppressed it disincentivizes the opening of new mining operations, which causes harder squeezing of the physical supply, and allows China to keep siphoning off as much of the supply as they can for cheap.

We just need more silver stackers to wake up that the 'spot price' and the actual price have all-but decoupled, and it really doesn't matter if they set the paper price to be $1.00 per ounce if you can't actually buy the real deal for less than $55.

Silver has definitely entered some kind of new phase, it's only over this year that we've started to see phenomena like the Shanghai spot price being double digit percentages higher than the COMEX spot, and practically no Silver genuinely being available at either of those prices.

Decent deal

>>10825

>>10834

I guess you don't want to start buying the more expensive coins unless your stack is "big enough" (whatever that number is to you).

>>10852

>Silver and gold are blasting off.

Looks like it might be starting.

https://www.kitco.com/charts/silver

Maybe I should buy some more silver.

>>10852

>Silver and gold are blasting off.

It looks more impressive with the chart.

>>10848

>It works in our favour though

Stackers yes. Society as a whole no. Jew tricks are a net negative for any culture. A form of social parasitism that drains wealth from the majority culture and give it to the <2%. Extreme wealth inequality leads to social instability.

There is nothing wrong with people who work harder having more. There is something very wrong with tiny subgroups using captured political/regulatory systems in ways that benefit their in-group at the expense of all others.

>>10855

>Maybe I should buy some more silver.

May the cheapies ever be within your grasp.

>>10859

Here's a chart that shows intraday suppression that happens every day on the NY market. The chart is the percentage change between the NY open and the close and adding it to the prior days reading.

Their entire goal was to keep silver uninteresting, and uninvestable in order to suppress investment demand, which has the second order effect of suppressing exploration and mining investment. They've been doing it for decades.

>>10854

They can tamp the paper price all they want. When the silver pile is gone, it's game over for them. Ever increasing retail premiums tell an entirely different story.

>There will come a time when everyone will be chasing hard assets, as hyperinflation hits.

>Most will wish they started stacking earlier.

https://x.com/SilverApeKing/status/1987543732422631564

>>10851

Nah, I just wanted to buy at least some gold bank when I had a baby stack. It was below spot, like I said, and American coins are recognizable.

>>10862

That's understandable, but I'm stacking for weight right now. I go for coins because they are recognizable, they appear in catalogues, books etc.. If I end up with nice ones I think look cool, that's just a bonus.

>>10827

>Bessent

Here's the walkback.

>Cheapies from last night

LSG Called me (no LCS in Nam, just a "Local Silver Guy") last night and told me chud sold him 3 Luong of silver (~110grams).

My silver now.

Does it matter who is President at this point?

>The cognitive dissonance accompanying your perceiving it doesn't matter who the president is manifests in a dull ache in your stomach and an increased need to scroll past news you dont like.

>The cure is buying stagflation hedges and then not giving a shit who is president

https://x.com/Sorenthek/status/1987535641572237328

>>10867

>My silver now.

Every little bit helps. People (normies) have zero idea just how valuable PMs are going to get. Silver is the new bitcoin, but unlike the old bitcoin, silver is actually real.

>>10859

When / if the suppression fails the silver miners will yield tremendous gains no?

Also question for people in the thread: which is your goal here?

>>10872

>When / if the suppression fails the silver miners will yield tremendous gains no?

Yes. Silver miners will blast off. Even some of the shitty ones. Even companies that aren't miners, but have silver in their name will go nuts from dumb money flooding the zone. Sarah Silverman will even get a raise.

Those tiers are ridculously high. Owning 100 oz of silver and a couple oz of gold will put you into the top 1% worldwide. 500oz silver will be enough for a homestead, some animals and farm equipment along with a couple of years of working capital.

If you have zero silver, make your goal 10oz. If you have 10oz, make your goal 100oz. When you get to 100oz, make your goal 500oz, etc.

Having ANY silver or gold coins will make you the one eyed man in the land of the blind when the dollar fails.

So who was the nigger who tried (and failed) to slam tonight? Was it you JPM?

>>10874

>Those tiers are ridculously high

It's so hard to make a silver tier list, where to put the divisions and how high to go? Most people will never go above 10,000 ounces, but theres also a large amount of people who buy more than 100oz at a time, so making ranges below that also feels somewhat superfluous.

Silver just broke $50 briefly tonight.

Starting Dec 27, you will need to upload your digital ID in order to use google in Australia.

Did LBMA already blow through their 54 million ounces last week?

>>10867

LSG just called again, another chud sold.

>>10885

Chinese silver prices Nov 10.

A brief history of Central Banking 1/4

>>10888

A brief history of Central Banking 2/4

>>10889

A brief history of Central Banking 3/4

>>10890

A brief history of Central Banking 4/4

Looks like NY bullion banks woke up and are fighting back against $50 spot.

>>10886

The absolute humanity.

End the Fed

>FED = ENGINE OF INCOME INEQUALITY.

>Billionaires' wealth as a percentage of GDP in January 2020 = 14.1%.

>Then the Fed goosed the money supply.

>Now, that percentage = 21.7%

https://x.com/steve_hanke/status/1987258826203312371

So we made it up to $50.19 so far this morning. NY hasn't opened, and often in the past there has been a dump just before NY open.

I’m curious as to why silver pumped so hard today but I’m not complaining either

>>10894

Thank you for noticing.

>>10898

>I’m curious as to why silver pumped so hard today but I’m not complaining either

Because gold has gone over $4100. It's not because of silver itself, it's because gold is pulling it up.

It feels like sitting in a comfy chair in my house, sipping a cup of coffee, watching a big storm outside.

>>10902

I love 100 oz silver bars brehs

Also check miners (I’m still at a total net loss)

>>10902

Is that a one oz gold bar?

>>10883

I thought UK would be the first, but yeah they're pushing the digital ID everywhere. And all the big search engines are now AI crap that probably filters results even more (it was already bad enough before).

I tried to use yandex to search for an image last week. I didn't get very far before it gave me some "bot verification" bullshit, so I bailed right then and there, and I won't bother trying their system again. Basically the fact that I'm using non-standard hardware/OS/browser makes me an outcast. Maybe it's better that way.

Here it comes Euro frens.

>EU to prohibit cash payments over €10,000 from Jan 2027 in the name of 'anti-money laundering'.

>In addition, digital ID verification will be required for customers making cash payments over €3,000.

>This is a totalitarian attack on freedom and should be roundly condemned.

https://x.com/davidkurten/status/1987801414484001069

>>10908

That's the Lynx browser in the pic, but I was using Palemoon for yandex image search.

BTW, some browsers are now integrating AI, so things are going to get even creepier.

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=176178898130065&w=2

>>10909

More on the fiscal noose going around the European necks. Bulgaria picked the worst time to jump into the cannibal's pot. They switch to the Euro in Jan, 2026. Only 26% of Bulgarians took the jab.

>CASH DIES IN 847 DAYS

>Europe just legislated the end of financial freedom and nobody noticed.

>January 2027: Every euro above €10,000 becomes illegal tender. Every Bitcoin needs government permission. Every transaction becomes a datapoint in Brussels’ surveillance grid.

>This is not proposed. This is law.

>340 million Europeans will wake up in a cage built from their own bank accounts.

>THE KILL SHOT

>The EU Anti-Money Laundering package doesn’t just track criminals. It treats every citizen as one. Starting 2027, buying a car in cash becomes a crime. Sending €1,001 in Bitcoin without state approval triggers prosecution. Anonymous wallets vanish overnight.

>The Digital Euro arrives 2029. The European Central Bank spent €1.3 billion building what they call freedom. But leaked proposals cap holdings at €3,000 per person. Every purchase tracked. Every pattern analyzed. Every dissent potentially bankable.

>THE LIE THEY’RE SELLING

>“This stops money laundering.” Europe launders €500 billion yearly, they claim. So they’re building a panopticon for 340 million people to catch the fraction who commit crimes.

>China’s digital yuan already programs money to expire, to restrict, to control. The ECB promises Europe will be different.

>They promised deposit safety in Cyprus too. Then they seized accounts in 2013.

>WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

>Privacy coins migrate to the shadows. Black markets replace grey ones. The state gains omniscience. You lose the right to buy bread without permission.

>This isn’t about crime. It’s about power. €20 trillion flows through the eurozone. Every cent will soon require approval from Frankfurt.

>The infrastructure of tyranny gets built in the name of safety. Always.

>THE CLOCK IS RUNNING

>847 days until your cash becomes contraband. 1,308 days until the Digital Euro launches. Zero days of mainstream coverage asking the only question that matters:

>Who decides what you’re allowed to buy when money becomes permission?

>The European Union just made Orwell an instruction manual.

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/1987750485840031806

>>10911

More details:

>Why now? Because dollar rails are about to eat Europe’s lunch

>The EU isn’t blind. It sees USD stablecoins becoming the corporate back office: instant settlement, global liquidity, T-bill yield. That is hard to compete with.

>MiCA + AMLR build a KYC perimeter to buy time for a digital euro. €10k cash cap in 2027. CDD on €1k+ through CASPs. Self-custody legal, but the on-ramps become gates. It is a soft capital control by design.

>If Europe were confident, it would out-compete, not wall off. Ship euro-denominated, interest-bearing tokenized deposits with deep liquidity, SEPA-Instant integration, and open APIs. Make euro rails the best rails.

>Tells to watch

>• EU corporates disclosing USDC/USDT for treasury and invoicing

>• Share of EU trade invoiced in USD rising while euro share slips

>• Exchange delistings and stricter CASP rules pushing founders to London, Dubai, or the U.S.

>• ECB confirming a retail cap for the digital euro

>Falsifier

>If euro stable rails achieve real depth by 2027 and become standard for B2B payments, the “wall” was a bridge. If not, the dollar internet overwhelms the euro perimeter.

>Monetary walls rarely keep dollars out. They keep innovators out.

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/1987750485840031806

>>10913

Reminder, if you don't get your scheduled vaccine, your money will get turned off.

>>10911

Bulgaria made a very big mistake, because giving up their currency means giving up their sovereignty. The Euro is the main "tool" the Brussels bureaucrats have to enforce their will. Without that, countries can tell them to shove it (as Hungary often does).

But actually it wasn't the bulgarian people who voted for this. Most of them were against it. This thread talks about it:

https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60569185

>>10912

I guess you can still compile Linux or any of the BSD's if you have enough memory. Linux is integrating Rust though, and that's probably going to require more resources to built.

As far as OpenBSD, it's small and easy to build. Same with NetBSD. It's those bloated modern browsers that are impossible for me to build on my hardware. But those aren't part of the OS, they're just 3rd-party add-ons that can be installed if desired.

>>10915

>But actually it wasn't the bulgarian people who voted for this. Most of them were against it.

The technocrats have been ramming this shit down people's throats for decades. Americans never were in favor of mass migration, and especially not mass third world migration. Canadians never voted to import 40% of their population from Africa, China and India.

>I guess you can still compile Linux or any of the BSD's if you have enough memory.

I don't compile my OS from scratch, although Gentoo comes pretty close, but I will only use an OS that allows me the freedom to compile it. I know from painful experience that browsers are among the most bloated monsters and today I would have to use a special machine to compile the browser for my laptop. Theo de Raadt (OpenBSD) lives a couple hundred km from me here in Alberta.

>>10917

I guess the small silver coins will still technically be ok with those numbers. But ultimately their plan is just ban all cash completely and replace it with CBDC. That's really what the digital ID and AI are all about.

>>10919

>But ultimately their plan is just ban all cash completely and replace it with CBDC.

On the bright side, aside from China where they have a uniquely homogeneous population and where the people will tolerate an authoritarian culture so long as the government doesn't lose the "mandate from heaven", is there ANYWHERE in the world where a CBDC has been made to actually work?

BTW, I assuming you're an expat or on a VPN.

We know that the money laundering is just a pretext. The largest money launderers are the largest banks for whom paying large fines for getting caught is just the cost of doing business.

>>10920

I don't want to give out all my infos, but let's just say I have more than one nationality, and I can leave this EUSSR anytime.

>>10921

The AI driven nuclear reactor buildout is going to require a lot of silver. 3 to 5 million oz per reactor.

https://x.com/Mark4XX/status/1987852946348937636

>>10923

Starting nuclear positions is part of my 2026 plan.

What sort of fucking nightmare world are we in? They have jeets doing the ER call intros now too?…

>>10924

>deal with oracle for data centers

>>10924

I like the cut of your jib.

People shouldn't worry about nuclear reactor silver. It's not lost, the silver can be recovered for reuse in as little as 2000 years. (half life 130-439 years)

>NUCLEAR SILVER: The Secret No One Talks About ⚛️

>Nuclear plants are silver devourers.

>Each large reactor (1,600–1,800 MW) needs 3–5 million ounces of silver for control rods and critical systems.

>Silver is irreplaceable here — it literally regulates nuclear reactions.

https://x.com/honzacern1/status/1987863841661682063

https://www.silverwars.com/nuclear-blunder-us-designed-radioactive-silver-stockpile/

>>10925

Larry Ellison eats cats.

Getting extremely tempted by this bar, it hasn't sold at auction multiple times, but I find its classical look very appealing

>>10924

>First Name: Nigger

>Last Name: Niggerman

You wouldn't happen to be a descendant of Lovecraft's cat?

>>10930

The bureaucratic regulators are the biggest impediment to the advancement of the tech. Somebody has pointed out that the largest user of nuclear reactors in the world is the US Navy, commissioning on average two new 400 MW reactors per year, at around $2B each, and currently operating over 100 of them. Your cheapest Westinghouse will cost about 5 times the price taking 10 times as long to build.

I'm partial to the CANDU reactors because they were designed to burn unenriched uranium fuel and even can burn as fuel, unreprocessed SPENT fuel from American PWRs. The fuel bundle for a CANDU is only around 1 meter long, so you need to robotically cut the spent fuel rods to the right length, put them inside CANDU fuel cannisters, and the CANDU can be refueled WHILE it's running. It's design is a little long in the tooth, but it has abilities to do things no other reactor in the world can do. (pun intended).

I do look forward to the new SMR reactors. People need to get the fuck over the anti-nuke KGB propaganda (Helen Caldicott).

An Alaska town was offered a small 10MW fully automated SMR that used one long subcritical rod of uranium and had a moving beryllium reflector that reflected the neutrons, and over the 30 year lifespan the reflector slowly moved down the length of the fuel rod. The reactor would be buried in a concrete bunker 100 feet underground, maintenance free and be removed and sent back to Japan after 30 years.

The greenie fools turned it down, because "muh bad feels over nucular" The reactor would have given them free electricity and steam heat and created a few full time jobs running the associated steam plant.

https://www.adn.com/energy/article/could-nuclear-reactors-solve-energy-crunch-rural-alaska/2008/12/31/

>>10923

I just want to say, that guys entire tweet is utter and total bullshit, and nuclear reactors are absolutely negligible in terms of silver usage globally.

The largest reactors still only use approximately 5000KG of Ag-In-Cd alloy, which means 128,600 troy oz of silver on the top end, or as low as 64,000 troy oz in a reactor, 97-99% less silver than he is claiming.

Additionally these rods last 15 years or more, so it's essentially a one-time usage.

Being as generous as humanly possible, if we take every single reactor he mentions being built in china over the next decade, assume every single one is the absolute maximum size and maximum silver usage possible, we end up with approximately 6.8 million oz of extra silver used over 15 years.

This increases the total industrial usage of silver over that time from 10,161,000,000oz to 10,167,815,800, or an increase of 0.006%

>>10932

Some day I'd like a little Niggerman of my own.

>>10934

I'm not going to dispute your basic premise, (overestimate of silver usage) other than to suggest control rod lifespan as reported from a couple of different sources is 10 years plus or minus 2, and the average age of an American PWR is 42 years and still going strong, which suggest possibly up to an order of magnitude more than one set of control rods than your estimate.

>Independent studies place the effective service life of PWR Ag-In-Cd control rods at about 10 ± 2 years, based on: (picrel)

>>10932

That my sir is a lovely puss you have there. A puss and silver is a blessing.

>>10938

>but the percentage gain is still below a 0.01% increase in silver usage, over a half century.

I'm actually wrong, let me do the math properly.

if we take all nuclear reactors in the world, including ones that have not been built yet, assume they're all median size and use 64,600 oz of silver per reactor, per 10 years, thats 32.946 million oz of silver used per decade, versus 11.483 billion oz used over that same time period, assuming all other demand remains the same and doesn't also increase.

Nuclear reactors will increase the global usage of silver by 0.2% between now and 2075, assuming 50 years per reactor, it's not nothing, but it's not meaningful, and over that same period I would wager every other industrial usage of silver would grow far more, rendering that percentage much smaller when we finally get there and can look back at it.

>>10938

We're not in disagreement. Solid state EV batteries will likely be a far bigger consumer of silver The main issue with PWR silver is it's effectively a one way sink, whereas most of the EV batteries will be able to be recycled. At least the ones that don't burn up.

PWR control rods fall into the same category as military weapons system silver batteries. They don't represent the lion's share of silver consumption, but it's a one way ticket for it.

>>10941

Solar is what will ultimately do it I think, I've been following the growth of photovoltaics since about 2016 when I contracted autism, and the exponential curve of solar power growth is staggering, this chart doesn't even include the last 2 years, which are both 40%+ gains on the previous year.

It's the kind of demand shock that can never be accounted for, and I don't think it's stopping for at least another 5 years, probably more.

Make dollars real (real de a ocho) again.

>The Mint Act of 1792 authorized the production of silver dollars to weigh a total of 416 grains (26.9563 g.) with 371.25 grains of silver and the balance being copper. This composition resulted in a coin containing 89.243% fine silver.

This side looks pretty nice.

>>10932

>>10925

Yes, the great great grandson.

>>10935

Everyone should have a Niggerman of their own.

>>10947

I stopped watching the ticker because in the end, I don't care about the spot price. I care about the GSR and the long term real value of silver vs the commodities.

I think most of us already know that all fiat currencies are toast. That's why the rush to CBDC/crypto. My belief is one cannot swap a shit currency (fiat) for an even shittier currency that one explicity cannot even save. (deliberate expiring CBDC/restrictions on where and how to spend, etc).

We see in China where they use CBDC, people are racing to buy gold and silver as fast as they can. Currently Chinese people are limited to 10 grams gold per day, but it's on a per BANK limit, and there are multiple banks they can buy gold at, so the practical limit is many times higher than the average person's budget.

There are few restrictions currently on silver bullion purchases as far as I am aware.

And don’t assume that your pension will be worth anything

https://x.com/MichaelAArouet/status/1987580200180199691

>>10949

>And don’t assume that your pension will be worth anything

Private Equity markets are starting to crash, AI bubble is popping and a lot of pension funds are tied up in both.

Fiscal bloodbath for boomers. I guess they'll just have to pull up their bootstraps and fight the jeets for Walmart greeter jobs, won't they.

>>10950

For anyone who didn't already know, (((Blackrock))) was a small hedge fund that the US Federal Reserve gave a trillion or so dollars to in order to act as their hedge fund after the 2008 GFC so that BR could buy up all the underwater houses that had been foreclosed to keep the real estate prices high. BR was also one of the main hedge funds used by the Fed for QE to buy equities to keep the markets going up. The real estate ownership was spun off to a separate entity called Blackstone. In other words, Blackrock is a monster created by the jews (Bernanke/Yellen) running the Federal Reserve post 2008.

>BlackRock started buying American public utility companies

>They buy them with debt, when the purchase goes through the debt goes to the power company, not to BlackRock

>This means entire states power bills will instantly rise to pay off the debt. It’s a racket and it’s started

>“What if I told you that your electricity bill isn't just paying for the power you use? It might also be paying off Wall Street's debt.”

>“Here's how private capital works. Firms like asset management giant BlackRock don't usually buy companies with their own money. Instead, they raise giant funds from pension systems, governments, and wealthy investors. When they go shopping, whether it's for a factory, a toll road, even your power company, they use part equity from those investors and part debt borrowed from banks and bond markets.

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1987725418045317434

>>10951

>Boomers are too dyed in the wool to ever change their political beliefs.

In Canada, most of the boomers will likely end up being euthanized. (not joking)

AI bubble popping. Michael Burry is calling it out (he wasn't the first either)

>Understating depreciation by extending useful life of assets artificially boosts earnings -one of the more common frauds of the modern era.

>Massively ramping capex through purchase of Nvidia chips/servers on a 2-3 yr product cycle should not result in the extension of useful lives of compute equipment.

>Yet this is exactly what all the hyperscalers have done. By my estimates they will understate depreciation by $176 billion 2026-2028.

>By 2028, ORCL will overstate earnings 26.9%, META by 20.8%, etc. But it gets worse. More detail coming November 25th. Stay tuned.

https://x.com/michaeljburry/status/1987918650104283372

>>10955

>Not rly going to happen. Solar is such an insanely cheap source of energy that its deployment won’t stop, ever.

Solar is useless in large parts of the world, like much of Canada, parts of UK, much of Germany, etc. One nuclear power plant takes up a tiny footprint compared with solar.

>Frankly I can see almost all energy powered from solar, the battery issue gets closer year by year and CATL are rolling out rock bottom cheap sodium chemistry soon.

Practical solar batteries appear to have the same timeline as nuclear fusion. Solar combined with pumped hydro is a practical alternative but limited by geography. Meanwhile, each current solar installation requires a full time natural gas backup power plant to be idling in order to compensate the intermittant nature of solar in order to prevent destroying the entire grid.

For limited off grid smaller battery backed applications, like a passive house or small automated sensor applications, solar is fine, but solar is pushed for grid applications precisely because it can't work. Not without irony, the same people who push the terrible bird killing turbines and wasteful solar installations, oppose practical hydroelectric projects because of their "environmental footprint".

CO2 is plant food, and Dr. Helen Caldicott should have been lynched.

>>10957

>51 achieved.

You appear to be entirely correct sir. I only hope you have the goodness in your heart to pray for those poor bullion banks who are about billion oz short, mostly on the wrong side of $45.

They urgently need your support.

>>10958

Haha. Never!

Finally, an article that goes into the non-linear nature of the US dollar collapse. It will be worse than most people can imagine and break many things worldwide.

>1. The U.S. Economy Is Built on Borrowed Time

>For decades, the United States has been living beyond its means. Here’s how:

>· We import far more than we export, running massive trade deficits with the rest of the world.

>· We pay for these deficits with U.S. dollars because the dollar is the world’s reserve currency—the currency other countries use for trade and savings.

>· This system lets us print money and borrow cheaply to fund our lifestyle. It’s why Americans can buy cheap goods from abroad and maintain a high standard of living, even though we don’t produce enough domestically to support it.

>This system only works because the world trusts and uses the dollar. But that trust is eroding.

>2. The World Is Moving Away From the Dollar

>The rest of the world is tired of America’s dominance over the global financial system. Here’s why:

>· The U.S. uses its control of the dollar as a weapon—imposing sanctions on countries like Russia, Iran, and others. This has made nations like China, Russia, and even allies look for ways to bypass the dollar.

>· A group of countries called BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) is working to create alternatives to the dollar for trade and reserves.

>· As these efforts grow, global demand for dollars will shrink.

>When that happens, all those dollars held abroad will come flooding back into the U.S., triggering massive inflation (soaring prices) and destroying our ability to borrow cheaply.

>3. What Happens When It All Falls Apart?

>When the dollar loses its status as the world’s reserve currency—something that could happen within 10 years—the consequences will be devastating:

>1. Soaring Prices: Everything you buy—food, gas, electronics—will cost much more because imports will become far more expensive.

>2. Higher Interest Rates: The government will have to raise interest rates to attract foreign investors, making mortgages, car loans, and credit card debt more expensive.

>3. Economic Collapse: The U.S. economy depends on cheap imports and easy borrowing. When those disappear, businesses will close, unemployment will rise, and living standards will plummet.

https://jacklawsonbooks.substack.com/p/the-coming-collapse-why-americas

>>10961

Part two

>The truth is that America isn’t going to fix this problem because:

>Why We Can’t Fix This

>1. Our Leaders Don’t Understand It: Most politicians don’t grasp how trade deficits or reserve currency status work. They focus on short-term fixes like tariffs or blaming other countries instead of addressing structural problems.

>2. Americans Won’t Sacrifice: Fixing this would require massive sacrifices—higher taxes, lower consumption, reduced military spending—but Americans are not willing to give up their lifestyle.

>3. Cultural Barriers: Americans tie their self-worth to work and consumption. Ideas like universal basic income (UBI) or wealth redistribution are dismissed as “socialism,” even though they may be necessary in a post-work world.

>Even if we wanted to fix this, it would require visionary leadership and international cooperation—neither of which exist today.

>5. What You Will Face

>As this system collapses over the next decade:

>1. Your Money Will Buy Less: Inflation will erode your purchasing power as prices for everything rise sharply.

>2. Jobs Will Disappear: Automation (robots, AI) and outsourcing will continue replacing jobs faster than new ones are created.

>3. Inequality Will Worsen: The rich will hoard wealth while most Americans struggle just to survive.

>4. Social Unrest Will Explode: Rising inequality and economic pain will lead to protests, violence, and possibly revolution.

>This isn’t speculation—it’s a natural consequence of how our economy is structured.

>>10962

Part three:

>6. The Likely Outcomes

>When this collapse happens, there are only three possible paths forward:

>Option 1: War

>· Historically, declining empires often resort to war to maintain their dominance.

>· The U.S., desperate to preserve its global power, could engage in military conflict with BRICS nations or other challengers.

>· But war with major powers like China or Russia would be catastrophic—for both sides—and could accelerate America’s decline.

>Option 2: Revolution

>· As inflation soars and living standards collapse, social unrest could spiral into revolution.

>· But revolutions rarely create stable outcomes—they often lead to chaos or authoritarianism rather than meaningful change.

>Option 3: Painful Acquiescence

>· The U.S. could accept its diminished role in the world but face immense economic pain:

>. Higher prices for imports would force Americans to consume less.

>. Government austerity measures (spending cuts) would hurt ordinary citizens while failing to address systemic issues.

>· This path would lead to widespread disillusionment with both political parties and institutions.

>>10963

Part Four:

>7. There Is No Hope for Avoiding Pain

>Let’s be honest: There is no way out of this without immense pain for most Americans.

>The privileges we’ve enjoyed—cheap goods from abroad, easy borrowing, a high standard of living—were built on an unsustainable system that is now collapsing.

>There are no magical solutions:

>1. Tariffs won’t bring back manufacturing jobs because automation has replaced workers.

>2. Universal basic income (UBI) might soften the blow but requires massive wealth redistribution that Americans won’t accept.

>3. Diplomacy could ease tensions globally but won’t stop de-dollarization or reverse decades of economic mismanagement.

The truth is that America has been living in denial for too long—and now reality is catching up.

>8. What You Can Do

>While you can’t stop what’s coming, you can prepare yourself:

>1. Understand What’s Happening: Educate yourself about these issues so you’re not blindsided when prices soar or jobs disappear.

>2. Build Local Resilience: Focus on your community—support local businesses, grow your own food if possible, and build networks of mutual aid.

>3. Reduce Debt: Rising interest rates will make borrowing more expensive—pay off debt while you still can.

>4. Advocate for Change: Even if systemic reform seems impossible now, pushing for policies like wealth taxes or universal healthcare could help mitigate some of the pain.

>But make no mistake—the coming years will be hard for everyone except the very wealthy.

>>10964

Part Five: (final) Brace for impact, there is no escape, we just don't know the exact timeline, but pray it happens sooner than later, the Gen Alpha and later won't know how to rebuild things and we will enter a technological dark ages. If you subscribe to TedK, that might be a good thing.

>Final Word

>The United States has been living on borrowed time—and borrowed money—for decades. Now that time is running out:

>· The dollar’s dominance is ending.

>· Automation is replacing jobs faster than ever.

>· Inequality is reaching unsustainable levels.

>There are no easy fixes or painless solutions left. All we can do now is face reality head-on—and prepare for what’s coming.

https://jacklawsonbooks.substack.com/p/the-coming-collapse-why-americas

There is much less silver available for deliver than most realize. LBMA and COMEX are compulsive liars when they start to run low.

>38.6 billion USD for the entire world’s worth of physical Silver freefloat is a joke.

>They got greedy. They screwed up.

>Once #Silver goes, the entire commodity complex including #Gold goes like dominos.

Good luck LBMA…

https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1988215002185310361

Money printer go brrrrrrr!

>I had Grok AI do some research for global money supply growth. It's up ~25% or $25 trillion since 2020. The average person & even many financial professionals do not understand exactly what that means for asset prices, consumer prices, shrinkflation & your standard of living

https://x.com/JasonEBurack/status/1987328819112353915

Gromen is right about many things, but he in deep on shitcoin so he has some denial issues and still supports bitcoin. The good news is he is also a gold guy, so he's not a complete lost cause like IQdelet and Saylor.

>You cannot have capitalism when banking system "capital" is the IOU of a hopelessly insolvent sovereign (USTs.)

>Capitalism requires the banking system hold a neutral reserve asset that floats in all currencies as its capital (gold).

>Capitalism is dead unless we fix the money.

https://x.com/LukeGromen/status/1986805010496168034

>>10970

>Covering arable land with solar panels is a crime against humanity.

Yes. Adding insult to injury, all solar "farms" do is destabilize an otherwise functioning grid. The only thing large solar farms harvest are subsidies.

Canada and UK the EU are committed to net zero. Long live independent Alberta & Saskatchewan. (soon to be unincorportated US territories)

Who controls economics in America? Rudy Havenstein was the Reichsbank President 1908-1923

>An overview of everything that went wrong with economics.

https://x.com/RudyHavenstein/status/1929201896939459041

These seem fitting of the too busy critique.

>>10975

video with picture thing again :|

>>10978

>Not bad for a white women that's coming up on 60 :)

GenX, just my type.

Ok, I bought more coins! A few were above spot price, and this one has the same premiums as a wiener. But it's much cooler! And also it's a lower mintage proof coin.

Today, the silver vaults of the Shanghai Futures Exchange fell below 600 tonnes for the first time, from almost 610T to down under 592T. Considering that the LBMA has been getting saved by physical silver from Shanghai and the COMEX - and silver was just officially added to the US Critical Minerals list last week, paving the way for possible US export controls - the paper silver market is edging closer to collapse (thank fucking finally).

>>10983

>the paper silver market is edging closer to collapse (thank fucking finally)

From your lips to God's ear. China won't be sending any more silver to bail out LBMA's ass, and reports are that LBMA hasn't even sent the silver that they owe India yet.

>The bullion banks (JPM specifically) told India that silver would be delivery on T+30 - effectively telling them, "no silver for you!". That has not quelled their demand. Physical silver is trading over $67/ozt over there.

https://x.com/pmbug/status/1980965858504544722

>>10986

Leave that shit on 4chan

In five days (Nov 7-11) price went from $48 to $51.

>>10988

>To all the old geezers who panic-sold silver at $50 because they were so used to losing for the last 30 years.

https://x.com/PrepperCanadian/status/1988347562299171072

>>10991

>I wonder what happens with the silver price if there is a EMP blackout.

Gold and silver go to infinity relative to dollars and bitcoin because with no internet, all electronic transactions cease. There isn't enough physical currency, and what value does that currency actually have once the government fails?

The dollar is just a credit instrument/debt obligation to the government.

Trump may not survive 2026. He better start sucking Putin's cock because there will be no place on earth safe for Trump and his children once the Dems take the house and the Senate. Even Baron will get thrown in jail for his involvment in the Trump crypto scams and insider trading.

I have never seen Trump's base so white hot angry as they are right now.

>Trump saying that America doesn’t have enough talent so it has to import foreigners is insane

>The admin is spiraling and this is what we are getting from the American First guy

https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1988439453170286614

Silver is pumping again. I bet we hit 52 tonight.

>>10994

>Silver is pumping again. I bet we hit 52 tonight.

We could be at $60 by end of Dec. America might be in civil war by then as well, or alternately, by this same time next year, new articles of impeachment will be getting drafted.

>He [Trump] thinks Americans are trash.

Just like Vivek.

https://x.com/a_know_nothing/status/1988421158866407574

>I am starting to think Trump is just controlled opposition as we continue to move forward to full blown globalism reset 2030

https://x.com/philiejp/status/1988415421989388732

>“Americans are too stupid to train to run a Hyundai factory”

https://x.com/challengerST/status/1988426463574651352

>F this administration he's nothing more than a corporatist globalist stooge

https://x.com/jsnjarrell76/status/1988418902809006495

>H1-Bs are junior coders with no ingenuity. Trump is having a terrible November. What is he doing?

https://x.com/AfterDinnerCo/status/1988422623098007624

>Laura is right. Trump is 100% wrong. This is how you lose the midterms.

https://x.com/ChuckChump/status/1988431694966222988

The cope is very strong with this one, and posting on 4chan is beneath my dignity. The question is as simple minded as asking, if there was no government, who would make the roads? Who would put out the fires?

>What happens when people spend their 10-20 ounces? Even at your $150-300 mark, that's not even a single month of bills. Does everyone go out each and every month to purchase their allotment of new money with their old money? Do employers start paying with silver coins? Where do THEY get their coins from?

https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/61302899#p61305313

He doesn't understand that in the absence of fiat, gold and silver become much more valuable, in proportion to the increased demand for it, hence the Mercury dime meme. Where do people and businesses get gold and silver? From selling goods and services. What can businesses do in the absence of sufficiant small denomination silver coins? Create company scrip, redeemable in goods and ultimately silver.

Gold is the money of Kings

Silver is the money of Gentlemen

Barter is the money of Peasants

Debt is the money of Slaves

>>10995

I always kek at how memes of trump always have to use images of him from 10+ years ago, or photoshop his face onto the body of a younger man, because jesus the guy looks FUCKED as an 80 year old. He's visibly on deaths door.

>>10997

>Why is Trump acting extra retarded lately?

He's surrounded exclusively by jewish minders and billionaires. He's in a controlled information bubble.

If his base rages hard enough, they might be able to pierce that bubble. It's not just Trump's neck at stake. Eric Trump and his other children will all get jacked up with various criminal charges. They would all need to seek asylum in Russia if Trump doesn't unfuck himself, posthaste

>>10998

>I don't think it matters if Trump (or any president) is impeached, dies, or finishes his term, the NWO agenda will proceed in the background no matter what.

There is a VERY strong probability that you are right. Some blackpillers have been saying this for years. It's certainly true for Canada, UK, EU, etc.

Fortunately for the USA, there is a strong, fierce independent streak in a significant percentage of the real (European) Americans, and America is one of the most heavily armed populations.

Civil war/revolution is very bullish for gold and silver, also lead and copper (brass).

>>11001

>Trump is currently in the position of the golem that will be doing the final wealth extraction from the American populace.

Whether that was his intent or not, in practice, that is exactly what he appears to be doing.

Doing so greatly pisses off his voting base, which will be his undoing.

How financial systems collapse, likely the future of America and other western democracies, likely within the next 10 years.

Stackers/preppers will be the least worst off, a distant second to the oligarchs.

Silver by itself isn't enough. One should strive for beans, bullets, bullion and community.

>>11005

>I'm 100% certain he's had at least one stroke given the way his face droops now.

He took his own shitty vax. He likely also has accelerated cognitive decline/dementia because of it. Neurological injury is actually more common than heart damage from the vax.

I don't hate him. I would have voted for the "candidate" Trump had I been an American, but I don't think anyone (other than Israel/jews) wants the Trump who is actually President right now.

That's why he will likely get wiped out in the mid-terms and if he survives past his term, will spend the rest of his life either in jail, or in courtrooms fighting to stay out of jail.

They will also go after his entire family. Trump made his own bed.

Shills on 4chan seem to have a complete lack of understanding of relative scarcity as related to supply and demand.

If the fiat system "collapsed" tomorrow. America would immediately switch to a barter system. What would people barter with? Food, cigarettes, fuel, blowjobs (services). How would people STORE wealth? A sack of potatoes or an apple pie doesn't make a very good store of wealth.

It wouldn't overnight turn into a "silver" economy because there is so very little silver available to the relatively large number of people. If a farmer needed 500 gallons of diesel fuel, fertilizer and seed to plant his crop, how would he pay?

Does the fuel distributor accept apple pies and blowjobs? (from the farmer's daughter) The farmer could try and use credit, promising the fuel distributor a share of the future crop but that will require a higher price, to offset the risk that a bad hailstorm at the wrong time ruins the crop. The distributor also needs to pay his employees and the upstream fuel provider, so may not have his own liquidity to be able to offer credit.

Some stacker who had silver could finance the farmer's fuel, by purchasing a portion of the famer's land in exchange for silver. The fact that there is so little gold and silver available relative to commodities makes the metals relatively much more valuable than they currently are today possibly increasing the value back up to what it was in Roman times when a Denarius was worth a full days labor. The Mercury dime meme isn't unimaginable.

Another form of money will be used within communities will be a scrip that can be exchanged for a fixed quantity of a long lasting, desirable commodity such as honey, or fuel. This would be a money substitute that helps relieve the shortage of silver and gold and create local liquidity in the community. Orania has created their own currency, exchangable for local goods and services.

We are in uncharted waters because the world has never had a fully fiat reserve currency completely fail before. Any emergency interim measures would be by their nature short lived until the situation normalized. It is during this emergency crisis period that stackers would best put their silver to use buying land, homes, businesses and equipment, which has the effect of putting real financial liquidity back into the system, helping to recapitalize the local economy.

>Silver isnt money. Everyone thinks monetary value is derived from usefulness. But real money's #1 purpose should just be to be money.

https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/61302899#p61305573

Silver is money. Gold is money. Wheat is money. Crude oil is money. Salt is money.

Money is any tangible commodity that is used as a medium of exchange. Money is a tangible object with intrinsic value that is bartered for something else, either a good or a service. Some commodities, like gold, silver and copper make better money that less durable, less fungible commodities.

Everything else is credit. A Silver certificate is a debt instrument "payable to the bearer on demand". It can be considered a money substitute, so long as it is redeemable for specie, but is not itself money.

Fiat currency isn't money either. It's merely another type of debt instrument backed by the threat of force. "legal tender for all debts public and private"

>First, the medium of exchange should be durable. In a primitive society of meager wealth, wheat might be sufficiently durable to serve as a medium, since all exchanges would occur only during and immediately after the harvest, leaving no value-surplus to store. But where store-of-value considerations are important, as they are in richer, more civilized societies, the medium of exchange must be a durable commodity, usually a metal. A metal is generally chosen because it is homogeneous and divisible: every unit is the same as every other and it can be blended or formed in any quantity. Precious jewels, for example, are neither homogeneous nor divisible. More important, the commodity chosen as a medium must be a luxury.

https://www.math.snu.ac.kr/~hichoi/finmath/AlanGreenspan-GoldEconomicFreedom.pdf

Spent all morning crashing out at moonshot pumpers on 4chan /pmg/, someone save me from myself

>>11010

It's the shills and the doomers. They can't survive here, tools to block them are built into the interface. Here's where you can post your cool stuff and get useful info.

I've almost settled down from the Ingraham interview from yesterday. Unbelievable really.

>>11016

I’m having issues attaching

>>11019

I am in agreement with you however it’s more difficult finding a data-driven argument to disprove him. I would say maybe he’s ignoring a long term trend towards gold and away from

US treasuries however this wouldn’t explain the recent rise of gold.

According to gold.org source there was double the interest in gold from central banks in the past three years over the past decade. Funny how double the interest correlates with double the price of gold hmm.

>>11012

>Can someone give me their opinion on this article please?

The issue is that central banks don't have to report their purchases of gold, and it's in everyone's interest to NOT telegraph their intentions in order to prevent a run on gold.

The fact that gold is going crazy is evidence that SOMEBODY is buying gold. The fact that the appreciating prices is causing central banks gold reserves to increase over dollar reserves is incidental.

It is a FACT that central banks (with the exception of Canada, UK and EU) have been net sellers of TREASURIES since 2014, which is when Obama cut Iran off of SWIFT and began another round of QE. China and Russia both stopped buying Treasuries, and other Central banks took note.

China has been notoriously opaque about their actual physical gold holdings, and Alesdair MacLeod has estimated that their total holdings, including CB, state owned banks, and citizenry amount to about 75,000 tons, or approx 9 times what the USA reportedly has.

What complicates things further is that there were years with no buying which creates an issue with talking about averages. By median standards the past three years are not major outliers as far as I can see.

I noticed that we are above $52.00 this morning and we hit a high of $52.50. I honestly didn't think gold and silver would be screaming in the second week of November. I expected perhaps continuation a gradual creeping like we saw couple of weeks from the $45 low gradually up to 48.