No.2431 [Last50 Posts]
Reminder that true Asatru does not accept homosexuality. And if you call yourself an Asatruar and are okay with gays, then you're doing it wrong.
From Germania by Tacitus:
>The Assembly is competent also to hear criminal charges, especially those involving the risk of capital punishment. The mode of execution varies according to the offence. Traitors and deserters are hanged on trees; cowards, shirkers, and sodomites are pressed down under a wicker hurdle into the slimy mud of a bog. This distinction in the punishments is based on the idea that offenders against the state should be made a public example of, whereas deeds of shame should be buried out of men's sight.
Faggots are condemned by the gods and our people. When the happening happens and we establish our own small pagan communities to survive, make sure you set up near a bog so this filth can be executed like our ancestors would want.
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No.2433
The rainbow background is not a welcome sign for effeminate fags.
Any queers better keep away from here, else we'll be sending them to Helheim.
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No.2434
>>2431not an Asatruar but my pagan beliefs are also at conflict with deviant sexuality. although I do not need religion to be against it on a political level. other than that, individually, I have no issue with them so long they keep it to themselves.
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No.2435
Theres far too many gay Asatru, mostly Loki worshipers. What sort of punishment should they receive? I feel the bog is too light for them since they not only defile themselves with sodomy but defile the Gods with their unwanted and misguided attention
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No.2442
>>2435
Worshiping Loki as an Asatruar is like a Christian worshiping Satan.
They should start calling themselves Jotatru like this dude. >>1694
I don't object to them being Loki lovers, it fits.
As a Heimdallfag, I revel in the fact my god is the one that slays theirs at Ragnarok. Granted Heimdall dies too but it's a death worth of song killing that degenerate.
As for their punishment, I dunno. Burning maybe? Lighting the wicker hurdle on fire while they're drowning in the bog so they burn alive while they drown?
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No.2472
>>2442How did you feel drawn to Heimdallr?
How do you worship him? Very little is known about him at all.
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No.2498
I hate these edgy internet people who claim anything gay is inherently against the values of Asatru.
Saying such a thing just points out how you cherrypick the parts of the faith and histories that suit your anti-gay views.
Yes, I agree the people and culture of ancient Germanic nations were largely homophobic - even the eddas joke at gays. But the tales and myths were never violently anti-gay and never promoted excluding gays from the religious ceremonies.
Homosexuals of the ancient Germanic countries would still have believed in the Gods.
So they were gay, What else apart from the Gods of Asatru would they have believed in?
Do you know how ridiculous it sounds when you say ancient vikings who liked men weren't accepted as true believers in their own Gods because you read a translation of an old book by a Roman who says the Germanics did barbaric things to gays?
And in all the Sagas and Eddic poems I have read so far, never is it said being gay is wrong, or upsets the Gods, or is unnatural, or deserves punishment. I would be delighted if one of you could actually prove me wrong and show me somewhere where Odin said 'faggots are forbidden from beliving in the Gods', a statement which you claim is the truth.
Also nowhere is it stated that all the beliefs and practices of ancient people, whether related to their religion or not, must be continued if you are to be truly considered a believer in their religion. So get that fucked up idea out your head or else you too are not Asatruar because you don't live in a mudhut and sacrifice livestock.
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No.2499
>>2498>>>/r/asatru is that way Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.2500
>>2472I just like the concept of a stoic watchman.
Also the Lay of Rig, the Eddic story that makes SJWs squirm.
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No.2504
>>2442
>I don't object to them being Loki lovers, it fits.Aye, it is simultaneously eerie and appropriate how often I find that shady degenerates and the mentally ill are drawn to Loki like moths to a flame.
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No.2506
Even a moderate gay who hates most people in lgbt community? Well guess it sucks I can't be accepted by you guys, you seemed like a cool lot till the anti gay stuff started springing up. Also I don't worship Loki that shit is for misguided degenerates who watch that Jew marvel movie.
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No.2508
>>2506I believe the objection of Germanic Warrior societies was that men who behave womanly could not be relied upon.
Take a page out of Jack Donovan's book and be a manly man and don't flaunt your attraction and stand up for traditional gender roles and the family unit when you get the opportunity.
If your actions are honorable I have no issue with your sexual orientation, those who will loathe you regardless are small minded bigots who do more harm than good.
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No.2510
>>2508Thank you for the advice and open mind. And Yeah once thought of asking about sexuality and stuff in a thread but thought that may be a form of flaunting it around and would be irrelevant. The rule of don't ask don't tell I suppose.
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No.2511
>>2506>>2498Okay maybe I was being a tad bit of a tryhard. My apologies.
I do like gays like Milo Yiannapolous I guess.
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No.2515
>>2511Heh it's alright. I feel the same way about most rainbow flag wavers.Despite my sexuality I will never be like those guys. lol I would gladly toss them in the bog as well.
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No.2521
I really hate that the faggits stole the rainbow, its the fucking road to valhalla and they associated it with buggery, fucking perverts. But yes ancient Scandinavians killed fags and sank them in a swamp. That's what all those bog bodies are about, usually.
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No.2550
>>2500I always have a positive feeling about Heimdallr too, i fucking love Rigsthula.
I'd imagine he was the patron god of guardsmen, and guard of society as a whole, it simply makes sense.
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No.2557
>>2498>I dont like reading sources other than the Eddas
>Look at me everyone Im an uneducated fuck Did you not read the thread? The Germanic tribes would push you under a bog for taking it up the ass. It was considered shameful. The vikings might not have been as harsh, but thats still good reason to believe they were homophobic.
Nobody wants your "gay viking" bullshit here, go worship a dildo, not Freyr
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No.2568
>>2550Between the Rigsthula and him killing Loki, I think Heimdallr is the one that pisses off SJWs the most.
Probably why that cuck Joss Whedon made him black in the Thor movie. GamerGaters should blot to him for guidance.
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No.2569
>>2568Yeah, the protector of societal norms kills the biggest degenerate in all nine worlds, that ought to piss the SJW-scourge off.
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No.2638
Kek!
Odin was an active bisexual. He took it up the ass to learn seiðr and cross dressed. Thor also cross dressed at Heimdall's suggestion. Frigga had lesbian relations with Saga. Loki was Odin's blood brother and rightfully must be honored in the same breath as him. And comparing loki to Satan is a serious sign of Christian brainwashing. Not everything is as black and white as your babby mind would like to paint it.
In Norse culture homosexuality on the side was supported as long as you were still making babies as your contribution to society.
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No.2641
>>2638All fucking nonsense.
Homos were drowned in the bog.
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No.2644
>>2641Even if homos were drowned in bogs it wasn't because of religion. If you want to suck a cock Odin will still love you, I promise.
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No.2645
>>2644You're clearly not from around here, we don't take kindly to faggots here.
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No.2647
>>2431if we want to start quoting tacitus, can we also show the parts where he implies that our folk are boisterous drunkards who don't know how to do any variety of work that requires diligence?
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No.2648
>>2638>took it up the assSource?
>seidrSeidr didnt mean being a bisexual crossdresser, it was just seen as unmanly by the rest of society because it was like "cheating"
>thor crossdressedonly to win his hammer back, and its obvious he didnt enjoy doing it
>Frigga was lesbian What are your sources, fucking tumblr?
>Loki was Odins blood brotherAnd then he shamed the Gods, killed their servants and set in motion events that would lead to the end of the world
>Norse culture was okay with gays For the third fucking time, source?
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No.2649
>>2648He literally just arrived and shitposted the same SJW shit in 2 threads already, just ignore this faggot and move on, if we start accepting wiccatru faggots there'll be nothing left of this board.
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No.2651
>>2648All these are found in Loki's Quarrel when Loki accuses the gods of all these things. His accusations are supposed to be read as just him talking shit. Even scholars suggest that Loki is just being a mischievous dickhead.
Basically Loki's quarrel is this he walks into a mead hall where the gods are feasting. Calls Freya a lesbian whore, Calls Odin gay, and tells Thor he fucked his wife. And yet tumblr wiccatru retards take Loki's shit talking as literal truth.
This is literally the only source they have to back up their claims of the Gods' degeneracy. Loki THE GOD OF MISCHIEF "Lolz why would he lie?". Fucking retards.
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No.2653
>>2498>And in all the Sagas and Eddic poems I have read so far, never is it said being gay is wrong, or upsets the Gods, or is unnatural, or deserves punishment.Actually the texts are abundantly clear that taking it up the ass is wrong and makes you less of a man
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No.2656
Honestly, considering that Loki, as the "god of mischief/chaos/Odin's blood brother/Bringer about of Ragnarok/etc." did not appear until post-conversion; and that there are no pre-conversion sources of this particular incarnation of this character; and given the fact that pre-conversion sources seem to indicate that anything remotely resembling Loki was more than likely a local minor deity that locals offered to at blots to bribe him from causing trouble; as well as the fact that there is zero evidence of Loki worship or temple names or place names named after Loki from Heathen times… in all likely hood, Loki as he is popularly known isn't even a real god or deity or exists.
He was basically a fictional character created for who knows what reason. Perhaps as an analog to Satan? I don't know. I know there are some folk culture level attestations to a Loki character, but nothing like the one popularly known from the Eddas.
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No.2657
>>2656>who knows what reason>analog to Satan?loki's roll's pretty clear, even from post-christian sources:
he's the god of dishonourable/criminal/argr deeds and breaking the social order illicitly.
>that there are no pre-conversion sources of this particular incarnation of this characterI dunno…his character is incredibly integral to a large number of myths. To discount loki's existance as seen in the eddas would be to almost discount the entire edda, including
>most of thor's adventures, most of which begiu with loki doing something stupid and needing thor's assistance in some way>the existance of many of the god's possessions, like mjolnir, sleipnir, draupnir, etc. he serves a good cautionary narrative too, especially for the lower classes (owing to his oft appearance in thor literature) of essentially:
>this is loki>look how fail this moron is>don't be loki…be like thorFinally, his binding resembles other indo-european myths (namely, prometheus, which loki serves the role of somewhat in being responsible for the god's magic possesions.)
I'd say he's about as non-christian as any other thing in the eddas. If we want to start discounting gods, baldr has even less pre-christian attestation, and even more resemblance to a certain major christian character…
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No.2661
>>2657I definitely see where you're coming from, and the theory of Loki being a "don't be this idiot" character definitely has a lot of traction.
Nevertheless, ironically, it's this fact:
>I dunno…his character is incredibly integral to a large number of myths. To discount loki's existance as seen in the eddas would be to almost discount the entire edda, including>most of thor's adventures, most of which begiu with loki doing something stupid and needing thor's assistance in some way>the existance of many of the god's possessions, like mjolnir, sleipnir, draupnir, etc. …that makes me the most suspicious of him.
For Loki to go from being virtually non-existent pre-conversion, to being in just about every major Norse myth seems extremely fishy to me. Especially considering that there are examples of primitively drawn figures holding hammers (i.e. Mjolnirs) since before Christian times, but now the hammer would not have even been obtained without the tomfoolery of Loki? The subtext of "the gods could not have gotten the weapon with which they protect all of mankind from the giants, unless they put up with the antics of a shady bastard" just seems off to me.
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No.2662
>>2661>Especially considering that there are examples of primitively drawn figures holding hammers (i.e. Mjolnirs) since before Christian times, but now the hammer would not have even been obtained without the tomfoolery of Loki?Well, you said it yourself: if he's the "don't be this idiot" character, why would the ancients erect monuments to his honor?
Although calling him "norse satan" is idiotic, consider this analogy: how many icons of the white christ are there in comparison to the number of paintings depicting satan?
Both pre-christian artefacts of loki equally damn him as well (a device rendering him with wired-shut lips…indicative of his roll with the smiths he annoyed being pre-christian…and one with him bound)
>The subtext of "the gods could not have gotten the weapon with which they protect all of mankind from the giants, unless they put up with the antics of a shady bastard" just seems off to me.I'd say you're reading the subtext of it wrong. I don't think the notion is "loki is the cause of the god's greatness", but rather "if you fuck up like loki, you'll be made to pay penance for the benefit of the tribe". Consider weregeld. You do a crime, you have to compensate however you can…else you'll be outlawed (i.e. put into utangard, where thor wanders hunting for thurses and is wont to rend off your head as he often threatens to loki).
and with loki, we see this:
>shave sif's hair? pay up loki!>make a dumb bet with a giant for a wall? get raped by a horse, niᚦ!>make a dumb bet with some dvergar? cheat the bet? nigga, you get sewn up lips!Everything ends bad for him, and most of the time any "benefit" derived from him is simply punishment levied against him – weregeld owed due to his stupidity. His tales simply tell you that if your that damn argr, you'll have to pay [the sum of the gifts of the gods] in compensation.
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No.2664
>>2662
>why would the ancients erect monuments to his honor?Aye, but why wouldn't they at least have depictions of him in a storytelling context from farther back? Considering the importance of Mjolnir, you'd think that the origin story of such an object would be fleshed out, with Loki prominent due to being a major factor in it's creation.
>Both pre-christian artefacts of loki equally damn him as well (a device rendering him with wired-shut lips…indicative of his roll with the smiths he annoyed being pre-christian…and one with him bound)Actually the Snaptun Stone is dated to around 1000 CE (on the precipice of the 10th/11th century); right when Iceland turned over to Christianity. The Kirkby Stephen Stone and the Gosforth Cross are from the 10th and 11th century, respectively. Also keep in mind that the conversion of Scandinavia started around the 8th century.
I agree with you that the overall message of Loki is one of atonement from idiocy. I just still find it difficult to process that Mjolnir, which was, in the myths, considered responsible for keeping the giants at bay and mankind safe, might never have supposedly happened if not for Loki, and yet pre-conversion info on him is so scant.
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No.4558
>>2498Is that like the part where we cherrypicked being White in order to oppress poor wittew bwown peopow dat we wouwdn't wet on ouw gwoup?
Also, "homophobic?" That's just newspeak bullshit.
Diagnosis: please an hero immediately.
>>2506How the fuck are you "moderately gay?" You are apparently going against Natural Law and the order of life that give us life that we must cling to at all costs in these perilous times, especially (White birthrates are too low).
You wouldn't have had that nonsense tolerated ever before. Why would you expect it today? Nothing justifies the rejection of normal sexuality. Those that do that are rejecting life itself on a very fundamental level.
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No.4582
>>2431I disagree.
Those rules were for a time when the community had to struggle to maintain its population, and a homosexual who didn't reproduce was actually hurting the community.
Today, there are about six billion too many people on the planet. I would say anyone who doesn't have children is doing the world a service.
There's nothing wrong with liking the same sex, especially now that the fewer offspring we have the better. What's wrong is being weak emotionally and living to please other people–getting all whiny just because some people hate you for a stupid reason–which many homosexuals tend to do.
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No.4584
>>4558There is this cool new thing called donating sperm. In my eyes it's more helpful than having kids with just one woman when multiple women can use it for when their husband is impotent.
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No.4589
>>2431Yeah, it's true, but just chill out, there's no need to get pissed about it. I wouldn't hang out with any gays, but I'm not going to follow them around and sling vitriol at them because I just don't care to get involved with them.
Gays are going to exist. We're not going to get rid of them with vitriol. We just need to let them know they're not welcome and move on.
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No.4590
>>4582This is pure idiocy, European breeding rates are below replacement. If we stop having children, the entire population of Europe will simply be replaced by africans, and asatru and any other european culture will no longer exist. Overpopulation is nonexistent in Europe, except for our horrible mass immigration problem, which is not solved by halting reproduction, but by throwing out the invaders.
>>4584Sperm banks are glorified human shopping that breaks down the concept of the nuclear family. It's fucked up, not helpful.
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No.4596
>>4590Are you saying an African couldn't learn to respect the gods properly?
The world was at its best when there were only one half to one billion people in it. At that time, there was plenty of land to go around, the whole surface of the earth wasn't covered with us. Anyone who wanted adventure or a new life could press out into new land that hadn't been settled yet and make their life there. As long as this isn't possible I would say there are far, far too many people here.
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No.4606
>>2431>>2653
>the texts are abundantly clear[citation needed]
I don't see why homosexuality on its own is wrong as long as you are strong in the manly duties–defending your family, remaining loyal to your kin and community, knowing how to fight and survive, keepting your promises, etc.
I think the ancestors took a bad view of it because it usually comes with bitchy whininess and a lack of courage, which are wrong. I agree that most gay men I have met are that way. But if a man were gay but still behaved like a man should in other respects I would have nothing against him.
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No.4614
>>4606mfw neopagans literally support gays, top kek
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No.4615
>>4614Support gays? maybe.
Support unmanliness? No.
We just understand that the true values that makes a man have nothing to do with where he sticks his dick.
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No.4617
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No.4618
>>4606Being gay is literally unmanly.
I don't care how much you can press or how fast you run. Putting a dick in your asshole is unmanly. As in, men don't do it and obviously our ancestors thought the idea abhorrent.
There's no discussion here, there's no room for debate.
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No.4626
>>4618Does putting a dick in your asshole stop you from being loyal and brave, and protecting your family and country? Does it stop you from venerating your ancestors, nature, and the gods? That's what's important, not what you do with your asshole.
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No.4637
>>4626Putting a dick in your bum is spitting in the face of your ancestors, faggot.
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No.4642
>>4637>Ancestors decided to check in on anon>See what he is up to seeing if they are making them proud>Is getting fisted by a black dude>TFW Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.4649
>>4642All I'm saying is they would be far, far more disappointed if their descendant was being cowardly or disloyal or forgetting them and his kin, than if he was just doing something sexually weird. In the grand scheme of things what you do in bed and with who (unless you are cheating which is disloyalty) doesn't matter at all.
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No.4650
>>4649Except all germanic tribes despised homosexuality. Even the vikings who were more "progressive" than most other germanic tribes thought it was unmanly to take it up the butt. Because that is willing letting someone take your manhood without putting up a fight or doing something about it. Most viking insults for cowards where also meant for gay people as well.
Asatru is about traditional family values dude. Instead of thinking Wiccan except with different gods think 1950s American Nuclear family with Odin instead of Jesus. That is Asatru.
Asatru is family values, procreation, caring for one's kith and kin, honoring the gods and one's ancestors. What is the best way to achieve all of this? Finding an honorable women, marrying her, and having kids. Sex should not always be about pleasure but to populate our race. And gay love is nothing but about sexual pleasures which is selfish and deviant.
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No.4681
>>4650see
>>4582We don't need to repopulate anymore. We have way, way, way too many fucking people.
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No.4682
>>4681No niggers, spics, chinks, hindis, arabs do not need to procreate anymore. They are the ones overpopulating our planet.
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No.4683
>>4682Everyone is overpopulating our planet. There are literally seven times as many people here as there need to be.
Are you saying deviant sex is okay for them but not for whites?
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No.4686
>>4683White race is dying off because faggots like you. Spics and niggers are breeding like rabbits and you say that we as white people should stop breeding because other races are overpopulating our planet?
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No.4691
>>4686I'm not saying anyone should stop breeding. I'm saying it's no longer crucial to society and it's no longer harming anyone if you don't breed, for any race.
We don't need to be more populous than anyone else, it's not a competition of numbers and seeing it that way is dangerous to the world. Quality over quantity and all that.
The Indians and Africans do need to tone it down a bit though.
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No.4693
>>4691IMO no where in the world is overpopulated except east , south east, south asia and apefreaka. everywhere else is fine.
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No.4694
>>4693That's where I disagree with you. The whole world–even America and Europe, hell, even Canada–has been parceled out among us, there are hardly any wild places left and I can count them all on one hand.
>The Amazon. and that's quickly losing its wildness>The Sahara. Nothing for anybody there.>Northern Greenland. and that's basically a sheet of ice.>Siberia. and even that is somewhat populated.>Antarctica. and, combining the worst qualities of Siberia and the Sahara, there's really not a fucking thing for anybody there.Humans have already taken over and divvied up literally all the usable land there is. I live in a rural part of America and I still see too many people. When you have to bust your ass for money just to get a small piece of land to live on, rather than going out and finding it yourself, when there's no longer any abundance of game and it's almost impossible to survive off the land alone in most places, that's when you know there are far, far too many people. It's just not right.
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No.4701
Odin - Viewed as the all father and creator, Odin would often disguise himself as a woman. His relationship with his blood brother, Loki, had homoerotic overtones, and he studied the feminine mysteries of the goddess Freya.
Odin is also a hermaphrodite, by the way! In the last spell of the Havamal, he talks about his "sister", which he didn't have - clearly referring to his feminine self. By recognizing it as an individual being, he gave it power and identity.
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No.4704
>>4701Implying the Havamal was literally written by Odin, and not some dude with the same name who thought he was the reincarnation of Odin. The idea of holy books with no physical human authors is purely a jewish idea. The guy who made the Havamal originally was probably just a non-liberal, non-retarded version of that guy who pretends to be Odin on facebook.
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No.4705
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>>4701Glancing over the important parts there.
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No.4710
>>4701How would you know he did not have a sister, moron? Because it was never mentioned? You do know we do not have complete information on the Norse religion right? Freya has a husband named "Od" and there is little mention of him in anything else. Same goes for Ull.
And where the fuck do you get "homoerotic" vibes between Odin and Loki? I literally just read the Eddas in the last three months too.
Also Odin cross dressing was so he could learn a certain form of magic called seidr and gain wisdom so he could prepare himself and the world for Ragnarok. He did not do it because he liked it faggot.
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No.4722
>>4650Not all tribes. there where warriors who beveled it was more manly to lay with men than it is women. These where mostly second born sons.
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No.4723
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No.4724
>>4722Holy shit that utter delusion. Fuck off back to revleft/tumblreddit and don't come back.
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No.4732
>>4649I think the ancestors would be much more ashamed of a faggot than they would someone who had bouts of cowardice. Even Thor hid in a giants glove remember.
Thor did not stick penises in his anus though.
You talk about "forgetting your kin."
What do you think being a faggot is? That's literally spitting in the face of your ancestors. The ones who fought and worked so you could be here today. You're saying to them, "you're not good enough for me to carry on your legacy, I'm going to go be a huge degenerate and not get a woman to have sons with."
You can be brave, but unless you achieve demi-god status you'll be forgotten. If you have descendants you will live on through them for eternity.
Now please, take your faggot-loving ass and go gas yourself.
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No.4734
>>4732Bouts of cowardice can result in your family or kin dead when they needed you most to defend them. There's nothing more shameful than that.
Again I say, there have been too many sons. There are far, far too many people on this planet, and part of it is due to the idea that we all need to have a bunch of fucking kids because muh family legacy. We're going to starve ourselves fucking out if we keep this shit up.
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No.4737
>>4734Like others have said in this thread white countries are not over populating the world. Look at some shitskin countries, China, India, Sudan..etc. All around 1 billion.
Are there even that many white people in ALL of our countries?
Most white populations are having children at below replacement level. Hence the whole "white genocide" thing and the very real worry of getting replaced in our own countries.
If you're not worried about the long term survival of your folk why are you even trying to pretend you're an Asatruar?
>muh family legacyHave you ever read ANY lays,myths or sagas in Germanic mythology? A good percentage of it literally is "muh family legacy."
Fuck off.
>Bouts of cowardice can result in your family or kin dead when they needed you most to defend them. There's nothing more shameful than that.Yeah key word being could.
Being a faggot WILL result in your family line ending. Effectively saying fuck you to your ancestors.
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No.4741
>>4734>There are far, far too many people on this planet>Stop reproducing white menIf you actually believe overpopulation is a problem, go to Indian or Africa and tell them to stop fucking like rabbits
but that wouldnt sit well with you now would it, rabbi?
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No.4745
>>4741Oh, it would. I believe most of the aid money spent there is wasted, I would spend it handing out condoms and paying for vasectomies and tube tying.
I believe the planet was at its best with one half to one billion people on it. We just surpassed seven, and scientists think in ten years we'll be past eight. Do you not agree that that's too fucking much? Eventually we're just going to starve ourselves out…
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No.4747
>>4745Whites don't even make up 1 billion people by themselves. All of Europe, Americas and Australia combined. And that number is only shrinking. If a whole race of people aren't even a billion people while there's single countries over 1 billion then I think you know where the problem of overpopulation is of concern.
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No.4801
>>4762
I agree. I think your answer is one half to one billion.
From the 1500s to the 1900s we were advancing in technology fast, I don't think we needed the population boom to advance it any faster. That only happened because medicine and sanitation, and transportation of food, got better, and death due to disease and starvation plummeted.
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No.4807
I hate this nihilistic neo-malthusian bullshit like some anon on /pol/ said.
this planet could hold way more people than it currently has, furthermore, it's the non-europoids that are overpopulating it. plus there are many solutions but telling white people to stop breeding is only a solution to a certain international clique that enjoys rubbing their hands. their own Final Solution. fuck'em
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No.4813
>>4807Oh, it could, but do you really want to live like that?
Sure, with enough engineering, cooperation, and redistribution of wealth, we could ensure that enough food was grown and distributed to feed many more billions of people. But the more people there are, the less possible self-sufficiency is. It would become harder and harder to get land and space to yourself, and to be able to feed yourself without relying on the factory farms that most urban faggots can't live without. Eventually, we'd all become so damn interdependent that any small mistake in the system would trigger mass starvation somewhere or other.
It's almost there today, and I for one fucking hate it.
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No.4816
>>4813largely depends on the technological level of such a civilization
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No.4833
Just adding my two cents -
While I do believe in racial pride and purity, and that the white race needs to beef up its numbers a lot, I don't think it should be - or should ever have been - a moral requirement. Some people are simply not fit to have kids, for any number of reasons from sexuality to temperament to financial resources. Hitler didn't have kids, but we're not calling him out for betraying the white race.
So long as we are encouraging breeding among nuclear families, and the white race is growing at a steady pace, I see no reason with letting those who won't/can't have kids do so. Including gays.
I don't think we should give them marriage or encourage public flaunting of that sort of thing - but clearly our ancestors were being a little overly zealous when they drowned fags in bogs.
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No.4834
>>4833I agree. I hate people who have kids they can't support, they become a burden on everyone else.
And actually, I would like to call Hitler out for betraying the white race. He gave folkish people a bad name. Now, if you're white, you can't be proud of your ancestry in public without being associated with him.
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No.4837
>>4834>I would like to call Hitler out for betraying the white race. He gave folkish people a bad name. >Now, if you're white, you can't be proud of your ancestry in public without being associated with him.There's a place for people like you. Wanna know what it's called?
Reddit. Now gtfo and go back there.
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No.4840
>>4834Jung described him as a manifestation of Odin. Are you really prepared to "call out" Odin? What happens when you "call out" Odin?
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No.4844
>>4840Jung was a quack who didn't know shit.
Hitler may have been guided by Odin. Odin was known for favoring one side or another in battle at random, for his own amusement. Also, his men did fight bravely and well, maybe Odin found them more honorable than his enemies at the time. Who knows.
However, I disagree with his cause. He murdered or arranged the murder of people who were innocent, and he disregarded the will of his people when he led a country.
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No.4847
>>4844A holocaust believer? In MY Heathenry?!
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No.4854
>>4847Who are you to say it is YOUR heathenry?
And like it or not, democracy is in our blood. Our ancestors were actually pioneers of it with the Things. It's not our way to let leaders disregard the will of their people, and in a true heathen society being of a different religion isn't enough to be lawfully punished by death. That doesn't mean being an sjw faggot, it just means understanding that in a functioning society the life of the innocent needs to be protected by law.
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No.4858
>>2661These two stone artifacts are from the viking period. The first very clearly shows a figure with his mouth sewn together and was used as part of a forge for a bellows-stones. This almost certainly is a depiction of Loki since it relates heavily to the myth of Thor's hammer
The second image is harder to tell if it is truly Loki, but the image of an evil-looking giant being bound by chains that resemble entrails is pretty indicative.
This does not prove Loki was worshiped, but does prove that he existed in pre-Christian mythology. The most people ever interacted with him was probably just an offering to make him go away ( as was stated by another anon) which lines up with the practices of other primitive cultures (its common for African voodoo priests to offer a chicken or goat as sacrifice to a demonic entity in order to make it leave and cleanse the area)., Another detail that makes his existence more likely is the fact that many of the things that make him similar to Satan are aspects of Satan that only were added to him when Christianity came to mix with European culture. His conniving trickery, seduction of females and ability to change shape are never mentioned in the Bible, he is simply "the enemy" and the old testament is it not even clear that he is a fallen angel. The tradition of Satan as a trickster character is only prominent in Northern European countries, which could indicate that Loki and Satan were meshed into one.
I for one believe that Loki was likely a local deity in the Scandinavian countries that played a role in their myths but was not likely found outside of those areas, or spread as the Germanic tribes spread.
His worship by the tribes is more unlikely than the possibility of him being a Christian fan-fic insert however.
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No.4859
>>4691>we dont need to be more populous than anyone else>quality over quantityThat aint how the world works anymore you stupid faggot. you really think 10 white men, heavily armed and trained, could kill 100 sandniggers with cheap guns and no training?
You really think it doesnt matter when 90 percent of Europe is black and Arab, because hey, at least theres still 20 whites in Paris right?
We do need to be more populous than anyone else because when the world was 30 percent white, not 3 percent, we had the largest technological and cultural boon in the history of the Earth
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No.4860
>>4694>humans have taken up and divvied up all the usable land there isYou sound more and more like a stupid city-boy the more I read your posts
I live out in Alaska and theres more wild land than we know what to do with. Of course that would be ruined if every nigger in America decided to move up here and have a house every 100 feet, but for now thats not a problem (niggers dislike cold)
You should get out a little more if you really think theres no more wild land
Even the southern states (anything below canada) are mostly wild land, especially in the midwest.
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No.4866
>>4858I already responded to these two artifacts here:
>>2664They are dated to being at the precipice of Icelandic conversion, or after the conversion. Thus they do nothing to prove that Loki of the Eddas existed in Pre-Christian Mythology.
Nevertheless, I am with you on Loki more than likely being a local mischievous deity that was chased off with offerings.
Also, Loki's influence on Satan, rather than the other way around, is something that I was unaware of, and will definitely research further.
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No.4885
>>4860Alaska is where I'd like to settle down eventually, actually, after I'm done wandering around.
The midwest isn't wild land at all, it's farm land.
Who owns all the so-called wild land in Alaska? If random fucks aren't free to go stake out land and build a house there it's not wild enough, it still belongs to someone.
My point is there's not enough to go around. Those places are only so sparsely populated because city people can't handle the cold and want to clump together. What wild land there is is still all owned, you still need to buy it, and there's not enough for every individual to go find a new life for themself in the wild if they so choose.
And as it happens, I live in rural Maine.
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No.5066
>>4596
>Are you saying an African couldn't learn to respect the gods properly?
>>4558
> You are apparently going against Natural Law and the order of life
Holy Hel you people sound like Christfags.
Asatru needs a real philosophy, not a bunch of armchair interpreters who are really just post-Christian
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No.6180
As a lesbian I don't really care if you think I can honour the gods or not, I just honour and respect them and do my best to live with honour myself. That also means (to me) that I give myself what I want while knowing the gods are smiling upon me while I lick that sweet pussy. I don't think living with hate and excluding people from our faith is very hounerful and if you can't see the problem with it you need to do some 'soul searching'. And if you really like pointing fingers and condemning people maybe you should convert to like Christianity or something
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No.6182
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No.6186
>>6180
There are less problems with female homosexuality than there are with male homosexuality, and Tactitus does not say directly if the Germanic tribes drowned lesbians for the same crimes that faggots did. Two females having sex is graceful in a way and it enhances the feminine nature of both, whereas male homosexuality degrades both to the level of primitive animals and makes the receiving partner into an ergi bitch
However there are still problems with being lesbian because you are not producing white children and you are not passing on your ancestral DNA. You are still a fucking degenerate and your only purpose in the Germanic world would be either a sex slave who fucks women for entertainment or in the bog.
The gods do not smile upon you when you lick sweet pussy, they hang their heads in shame that you are denying your ancestors the right to continue their line. Your ancestors are watching you too, how do you think they feel now that you will be the last of their line?
also "living with hate" is not against Asatru or Germanic religion, you sound like someone who doesnt even know that Wotan's name literally means "inspirer of hatred"
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No.6187
>>6180
Your parents are ashamed of you even if they do not tell you. Your ancestors are ashamed of you for the same reason. You are refusing to continue their lineage and you live your life fulfilling selfish desires which contributes nothing to the folk.
This goes against everything Asatru stands for. Fuck off back to reddit or tumblr, fag.
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No.6190
>>6186
Nah I think they are good, I'm a healer and they must be proud of the lives I change. Besides my sisters got enough kids to ensure our glorious heritage won't die out. And maybe I will get kids one day, I'm still young so maybe in a few years but first I have other things to do.
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No.6191
>>6187
>your parents are ashamed or you….. yayaydayyadysyaya..
Are you projecting your own problems on me? Ok if that's how you cope… sure.
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No.6192
>>6190
define "healer". Do you mean you practice legit medicine and have a degree or do you mean "I make potions from what leaks out of my ass and sell it to people"
You're sounding suspiciously like a Wiccan whore to me
The logic of "oh well my sister has kids who cares" is retarded, we are still a dying race and need as many uterases popping out children as possible. your attitude of "oh well, its a problem yeah but someone else will solve it!" is extremely unpagan, its unchristian, its unANYTHING. you're just lazy and don't want to bear any of the weight that your sister and kinsmen do.
>>6191
Nice sliding tactic
You're the only one projecting here
Since you are so highly devoted to the Germanic Gods, tell us how you became interested in them?
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No.6194
>>6192
Neither, I do some kind of social work wich is guiding people to help them gain more independentness and other stuff. Sort of like personal guidance. Don't know how to correctly translate it since English isn't my first language but anyway this is my calling it is my job I made a living out of it but I also do it in my personal life. Building people up, making them see different perspectives and possibilities.
Well I've always loved history and nature, then when I was about 13 I started to read a lot about paganism and I haven't stopped ever since.
And lol 'wiccan whore' you assume quit much don't you.
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No.6196
>>6194
>I do some kind of social work
>personal guidance
>see different perspectives
Wiccan hippie whore confirmed
Tell me the names of 5 tribes
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No.6197
>>6191
Not projecting just stating facts. If even you dad says he is accepting of your degeneracy it is because he is a defeated beta cuck.
Also even if you look towards science and the whole "born this way" argument that only applies to homosexual males. There is no scientific evidence to support female homosexuality other than them being attention whores. Sorry you are not born that way you are just an attention whore. A selfish narcissistic one like all lesbians are.
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No.6204
>>6196
Lol I live and was born on the ground of the tribe I'm descended from . I think your ancestor must be sad to see how you'r acting, instead of respecting my choices since I have another role in society, you call me a whore lol this is why no one takes asatru serious, fucktards like you take away the essences and make it all about white supremicy while flaunting your homophobic and sexist ways.
You're probably some fat americunt anyway so why do I even bother
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No.6205
>>6197
If you think parents can only be proud based on your sexual choices you re pretty retarded and only proves that you haven't ever accomplished anything in life besides being a white heterosexual male, maybe you should leave the basement and go out experience real life for a while.
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No.6208
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No.6209
>>6205
The only people who do not take Asatru seriously are the Wiccatru imposters such as yourself. You give us a bad name. You think "Paganism" is just a fucking game and that you can just start believing in whatever the fuck you want. That is not how it works and actually is very insulting to whatever religion or belief system you are trying to appropriate.
>Lolz I am Asatru because I think Loki s funny
Fuck off with your degeneracy.
And it is funny because I accuse you of being an attention whore (like all lesbians are) and you continue to shitpost proving my point.
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No.6212
>>4596
>Are you saying an African couldn't learn to respect the gods properly?
No, niggers can't respect (white) gods and our (white) ancestors properly.
Especially not if they are invading the countries of those ancestors and replacing their descendants.
>>4650
>Nuclear family
Not completely, the eldest son wouldn't have a nuclear family as he was expected to care for his parents.
>>6180
>I just honour and respect
No you don't, if you honored and respected the Gods and our ancestors you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like
>give myself what I want while knowing the gods are smiling upon me while I lick that sweet pussy.
Your ancestors are ashamed of you, you brought shame on your family and so you brought shame to the Gods of your family.
>I don't think living with hate and excluding
Strange because the Gods themselves hated and excluded plenty of things.
>>6205
>white heterosexual male
Confirmed for SJW wiccan larper.
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No.6214
>>6212
Wiccafags = cancer
Seriously though, now that the thread has been derailed by the oldest trick in the book, how is the SCOTUS ruling going to impact this? Most heathen groups already accept faggots…I know the "Asapope" does gay marriage too…maybe the faggots will be so obnoxious that they show the world how degenerate they are.
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No.6215
>>6214
We should let the fags join, and every year we take a field trip to the bog to offer sacrifices to the gods ;)
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No.6219
>>6215
It would at least show that the fags dont really know anything about Germanic Paganism if they follow a bunch of tribesmen into a bog
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No.6227
To the lesbian ITT: you, like all other sexual degenerates, are practising self-worship, which frustrates any form of higher personal development.
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No.6319
Who cares about gays? It's not our worry, just live honorable lives, reproduce, and let gays fade out of existence. Just don't let them adopt, have kids, and if your child is "gay" sort them out.
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No.6656
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No.6657
homosexuals in scandinavia were given a term 'nilfngr' or something i cant remember, which basically means 'one lower than other men around him' and at that moment of titling the homosexual could be derided, beaten or even killed without any punishment - basically branded an outlaw
ancient germanic pre-viking roman-era tribes just bog'd them
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No.7439
>>2653
Solution for TEH GAYS out there: Do not take it up the ass then.
a few minutes of wikipedia gave me Intercrural Sex as a possible option (then of course, there's always abstinence)
>Intercrural intercourse was a common outlet for pederasty in ancient Greece,[citation needed] because anal sex was considered demeaning to the receiving partner.[6] The Ancient Greek term for this practice was διαμηρίζειν diamērizein ("to do [something] between the thighs").[7]
>The historian Kenneth Dover wrote about this extensively in his book Greek Homosexuality (1978), whence current theories on the subject of sex between men in Ancient Greece derive.[8]
>Joan Roughgarden refers to standing, face-to-face intercrural intercourse as the "gay male missionary position" of Ancient Greece in a section of her book Evolution's Rainbow (2004), which draws heavily on Dover.[9]
>It has been subject to various historical sodomy laws and religious restrictions enacted mostly by Christianity.[16]
>Intercrural sex appears to have been common during the medieval era;
etc
There's always the choice of not fucking in a degenerate manner (everyone regardless of orientation needs to get rid of the merchant porn for starters)
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No.7440
>>2506
If you have identified as "a gay", you're bog material, end of story. I'd happily bog you in an instant.
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No.7443
>>7440
>homos out there not defining themselves as "man loving" (androphile) instead of the modern delusional "Gay", which is a SJW New
Leftist buzzword
Jack Donovan sets things straight (no pun intended)
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No.7444
>>7443
Being a man first (sexuality secondary) > being a New Left created "Gay" expected to dress/behave/consume in a certain manner
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No.7445
>>7443
I don't care what your "/pol/ approved" kosher faggot says, any identity predicated on sexuality or any sort of effeminacy is disgusting bog behavior. Homosexual behavior should not be celebrated in any way whatsoever and no sexual obsession should be tolerated in any healthy society.
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No.7448
>>7445
>Homosexual behavior should not be celebrated in any way whatsoever
agree
>no sexual obsession should be tolerated in any healthy society
agree (but this applies to everyone; indecent behaviour in male/female relationships - in public - as well)
Sex ed for the children oughta go no longer than basic protection-or-else-this-happens-instead talk
>effeminacy is disgusting bog behavior
then the problem lies in effeminacy itself, which can be cured by instilling masculine, sound lifestyles in order to change the faggots for the better
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No.7493
>>2521
>Tacitus's Germania speaks for all of Heathen tribes
u wot
was he even in Scandinavia
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No.7532
>>4885
>Who owns all the so-called wild land in Alaska?
that government. what the fuck does that have to do with overpopulation?
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No.7544
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No.7546
>>2431
>a Roman propagandist retelling of his perceived Germania = how all of the primordial/traditional asatruar all over Europe thought
oh u
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No.7562
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No.7575
>>7546
your nose is showing
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No.7585
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No.11379
>>4710
I really like how the inquiry of sources gets no response - happens a lot with people slandering the gods.
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No.11381
People in the early middle ages believed fish would grow in the water and therefore not qualifie as flesh whichs consumption is forbidden during fasting times.
Does that mean the christian god commands that our definition of flesh is wrong concerning fish?
No, was a local believed because the people didnt knew better.
How can you declare the murder of faggots to be a part of their religion or willed by sentient forces you worship when you lack a direct connection that differenciates this view from what the germanics tacticus wrote over believed out of personal conviction?
Maybe they just hated faggots because that was bad for the community, not necessarily due to divine law?
Source your shit better OP.
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No.11393
>>11381
Pretty much what he said. Most of the bullshit I'm seeing in this thread is pulled out of people's asses ("bog bodies were fags," they could have been captured enemies or volunteers for all you know) or Appeal to Tradition.
So hey, while we're on tradition… when was the last time you fuckers participated in an animal or human sacrifice?
It seems to me that if you're going to cling to certain outdated beliefs, you might as well go full-on and slaughter some sheep. Or people. And hey, maybe you'll find out why some things aren't acceptable anymore when you get tried for murder and "He was a queer so I garroted him for Odin" isn't a viable defense.
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No.11394
I tend to agree with alot of the redpill ideas posted here. But the anti gay stuff, i really don't understand.
As far as i know, and don't quote me on this. The heterosexual population will always be significantly higher than the homosexual. If that wasn't the case, i think our people would have died out already. So i wouldn't fear a massive increase in homosexuality any time soon. If you insist on using a scapegoat, i believe that it would be far more productive to label feminism as the main reason for the birth decline of white europeans. Not homosexuals. It's not really their fault that young white women (and men for that matter) aren't interested in getting married and starting families. Besides, aren't you really applying institutional religious morals to paganism when stating that "faggots should be killed"…? I highly doubt the Gods and Goddesses give a shit about what you do in the confines of your own bedroom. To me that's Christfag or sandnigger level doctrinity. I thought we were supposed to be beyond that? Not judge a man by something as shallow as his sexual preference, but for the quality of his character. I've met plenty of virtues gay people in my life.
The LGBT movement is fucking degenerate though, i agree. But even gay people know that. >Milo Yiannopoulos
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No.11399
>>11393
I participated in a Yule sacrifice of a pig then we roasted him on a spit and open fire and each ate a piece of his heart. All dedicated to the gods.
Animal sacrifice is not so "taboo" all you are doing is killing and eating animals same thing we do nowadays except I say some words before I kill the thing.
Also we execute criminals here in America in the name of justice this can be taken as "Human sacrifice" since it involved executing criminals and degenerates anyway.
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No.11402
>>11394
tolerance of any amount of filth is letting disease into your house
look at faggots and gay rights groups back in the 50s, they always dressed in suits in public and blended in with the normal population. Then Harvey Milk and his faggot movement started, and you always saw some shirtless guys and drag queens there but nothing too out of place right? just like normal people
and now look at them
http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_2_full/
this is what your tolerance and moderation leads to you moron
tolerating faggots at all is like tolerating dogshit or diseases in your home. Oh, its just a little bit of shit in the corner of my room right? it wont effect the rest of the room.
then before you know it your whole house smells like dogshit and you have flies everywhere, getting on your food and spreading the dogshit they were just eating
THEY FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND PISS AND SHIT ON EACH OTHER FOR FUN AND YOU WONDER WHY ALL CULTURES THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE HATED THEM
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No.11404
>>11381
>>11393
>>11394
Go tip your numale problem glasses somewhere else. Nobody here is buying it. If you want to join a gay friendly religion, there is a smorgasbord for you to choose from.
>>11399
That's some hardcore shit.
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No.11411
>THEY FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND PISS AND SHIT ON EACH OTHER FOR FUN
Yea but then again that's also the intro to every Max Hardcore video. Just because some fags are degenerate doesn't mean they're all like that.
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No.11418
>>11411
>ignoring every word and link I provided before that
alright faggot, either youre a shill or have some homo tendencies/family members or something, nothing can be done for you except the bog
look at every single one of those pictures in the zombietime link, and tell me you want these people living around you, interacting with your children, making your food.
Because thats what they do once they go home and pull their buttplugs out.
I bet you think AIDS is "a gay AND straight thing guize!"
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No.11420
>>11418
I smell unpaid shill.
>jeez guys, Christians invented not being a faggot
>it's alright now, jeez
>prove me wrong
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No.11448
>>11394
I agree with you, Anon.
This view is actually the same in Christianity today. There are many churches that think homosexuality is wrong, but they still accept the people if they aren't harming the community and they're quality people other than that one flaw. We all have flaws.
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No.11452
>>11448
oh yeah, thats been working out real weel for the cuckstians hasnt it? remind me how many priests have been beheaded by muzzies in the past few days?
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No.11453
>>11452
Muzzies that behead priests are not good for the community, are they?
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No.11455
>>11452
what do muzzies have to do with faggots?
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No.11750
Fucking someone in the ass=Not Gay
Getting fucked in the ass=Gay
t. Guðmundar
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No.11751
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No.11783
>>11751
>he got fucked in the ass
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No.11814
>>2506
>I'm a moderate gay
>I'm not a misguided degenerate
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No.11815
>>2431
Isn't this translation bullshit though?
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No.11816
>>11815
Do you have a better one?
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No.11825
>>11816
The original Latin of the people who were thrown in bogs is "ignavos et imbelles et corpore infames" or "slothful and unwarlike and infamous in body". I'm not a historian but this sounds like a much wider range than homosexuality and may or may not include it. "Sodomite" isn't a good translation for it either way.
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No.11826
>>11825
Seems like you don't have much ground to call something "bullshit" just because the language is unclear to you. Most of the sources seem to corroborate that "corpore infames" includes a wide range of perversions, including what we would now call homosexuality. The Romans (the people Tacitus was writing for) had a low opinion of passive homosexuals and an almost-as-low opinion of exclusively homosexual men even of an active role.
Most other sources (other than Christian muckrakers much later) seem to indicate that the Germanics were much more sexually restrained than other groups, and all of them dealt with sexual misconduct (and certainly effeminacy) harshly.
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No.11829
On a similar topic, apart from when Thor and Loki had to dress as a bride/ bridesmaid to trick Þrymr, is there any historical mention of the Asatruar views on crossdressing / trans people?
I ask because some girl I went to school with contacted me recently, now claiming to be a guy, because they know I'm Asatru and wanted to find out from me how welcomed they'd be, both historically and currently.
I know different communities can have extremely opposing views, so I'm just asking for any actual historical evidence or writings on the issue.
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No.11831
>>11829
Thor crossdress to get his hammer back not because he liked it. It is basically a bit of comedy in Norse lore. If anyone actually read the story Loki is the one who convinced to do it and he did it begrudgingly.
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No.11832
>>11831
This. It's like saying 1940s America was pro-trans because they watched Bugs Bunny dress as a woman to trick Elmer Fudd.
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No.11898
It seems to me that in all the Nordic countries and in Britain almost all Asatru groups are welcoming of, or at least respectful towards homosexuals.
And really it makes sense. If somebody is honourable, respectful and treats you well and with hospitality, treat them likewise.
Who they like to fuck doesn't matter to you and it isn't your place to enquire.
It's mostly "muh heritage" American LARPers with a desire to dogmatically recreate the 8th Century who seem opposed to gays joining what they think of of their secret club.
Thank the Gods their cringy bullshit is largely contained in threads on the internet.
That you as an American have the balls to tell Europeans that we're worshipping our Gods wrong because we refuse to exclude somebody just because they're gay is ridiculous.
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No.11899
>>11898
When Hilmar opened that Temple in Iceland (the one where he is going to dole out gay marriages) it was not just Americans sending him hate mail it was also Germans.
Homosexuality contributes nothing to society. In ancient societies even Norse you would be hard pressed to find any men who were exclusively homosexual. Even the Greeks had wives for procreation at least (and they fucked men on the side). Because procreation was vital to society.
Besides homosexuals pollute people's minds. They are teaching our kids earlier and earlier that being gay is natural trying to brainwash them. Now you have trends where boys and girls claim they are bisexual because they think it is "cool".
Nordic countries and Britain have become cucked yeah I am sure your forebears where also ok with refugee rape gangs kek.
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No.11900
>>11898
Ner i kärret med dig bögdjävel.
Tacka gudarne att inte alla "grupper" strövat så långt från våra förfäders värderingar som de du talar om, níðingr.
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No.11901
This level of cruelty towards fellow people is unacceptable. Excluding people for their non-harmful actions or thoughts is thought policing. That's filthy of you.
Do you believe in the gods for the courage they bring you? Or is it just because you want some divine judge you can use to justify your unjust condemnation of people for their private life?
What filthy behavior. You shatter possible alliances and friendships when you show such disdain for the innocent. Save your malice for those that commit truly heinous crimes.
You're trying to control people's lives and bodies in weird, creepy ways, and that's just not acceptable. What people do with their sexual lives has nothing to do with you.
You are not involved with their lives, and you have no right to judge them.
If you try to hurt people just for this sort of thing, you're an incredible petty person. A weak person. Spreading rumors and trying to shame people for this sort of thing is something only the weakest sort of rat would do.
You'd better shape up. You're putting yourself to shame.
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No.11902
>>4582
faggots worship death
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No.11903
>>11902
Look at this brainwashed idiot.
He just believes whatever he was told. Does he really think that gay people worship "death"?
It's quite bizarre how warped this person's mind has become, due to all the brainwashing over the years.
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No.11905
>>11901
lmao fuck off, I believe in the gods because they showed me they exist. I don't ask them for help or "courage", knowing they are there is enough.
Ek trui a matt minn ok megin, faggot.
Homosexuality can be seen as a death-cult because they can by definition not reproduce.
They are killing their lines, which may be positive if homosexuality was genetic, sadly it's a mental disease.
Meaning it's a corruption of the soul that can take place long after birth.
So of course their worship should be penalized and they themselves ostracised from any asatruar society.
They are hedonists and are directly detrimental to society.
This is to be found even in fucking alchemy, which you as an obvious wiccatruar should be aware of.
While there is both masculine and feminine in men and women, a man is a man first and a woman is a woman first.
The spiritual disease of homosexuality, upsets the balance.
Or if you are an asian esotericist; the fucking yin and yang of it all.
Ancient religions all over the world are in agreement here.
Men are men, women are women. This is the way nature intends it to be, this is the way our gods intend it to be and yes this is the way we on /asatru/ bleeding intend it to be.
So once more; fuck right off back to reddit you disgusting hedonist wiccatruar.
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No.11907
>>11905
Listen kid, the "gods" do not exist.
Are you fucking kidding me? We all know how stupid Christians and Jews and Hindus look when they talk about their imaginary gods.
Yours are fake too. They're made up stories used to inspire people.
But they're not true. How fucking stupid can you be? Do you think you're some warrior who should conquer evil or something?
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No.11909
>>11907
Hahaha, I pity you
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No.11910
>>11901
>>11907
That pathetic attempt at shaming doesn't hold weight here.
Heathens don't subscribe to to 21 century liberal morals, it's all about whats good for the ingroup.
Now go back to r/atheism.
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No.11911
How many fucking times does it need to be reminded that fags were put to death in germanic society?
how many times will faggots deny this and say "bwah bwah bwah?! you cant trust romans !!! they were mean and hated gay people !!!"
and how many times are we going to actually argue with these "people" and not honor the gods in the true way?
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No.11916
>>11907
Funny how even the tiniest bit of resistance and they blow their own cover in a spectacular way.
>hello fellow heathens, praise Thor and let's welcome gays
>no
>WTF GODS DON'T EXIST IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR CHECK YOUR PRIVLIDGDGE!!11
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No.11920
Am a woman who likes women. I do not think that is against the laws. Nothing I ever read says it is wrong. If you are so against it may I reccomend christianity as a religion for you.
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No.11923
>>11920
>produces no sons
>>>/bog/
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No.11931
>>11920
>I am a dumb woman who produces no sons or daughters
>I am a hedonist and want the sympathy of traditionalists and genuine asatruars though I do not deserve it and will never have it
It is a shame your parents gave birth to you.
An hero
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No.11934
>>11920
>Nothing I ever read says it is wrong.
Let's make this interesting. Instead of trying to convince us that it's okay for you to fall through the cracks, why don't you tell us what you've read that suggests that it is right?
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No.11935
>>11934
>>11934
this
lack of evidence is not evidence
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No.11936
>>11934
even more so, all the evidence we have shows that male sodomites were put to death in germanic society
why would females who engage in the same shameful behavior be any different? its not quite as shameful because no actual sodomy is involved but youre still shaming your ancestors by producing no children. youre cutting yourself off from both the past and the future and "living in the now". if youre a lesbian you have no place in our faith, this woman is embarrassing
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No.11938
>>11936
I would argue it is equally shameful. A male engaging in sodomy is a shame because it degrades his character. His reproductive future is of some importance, but is secondary to losing his masculine traits.
A lesbian has a degraded character as well, but it is less important for women. However, her reproduction is of insanely high value, and casting that aside is a travesty. It's like burning down your house.
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No.11942
>>11920
You know there are few lesbians in my SCA group who claim they are Asatru too I always quiz em on Asatru stuff and they look at me like I am speaking gibberish. They cannot even be bothered to research their own religion. They just like thinking of themselves as some sort of "Strong Viking Womyn" it pisses me off because if I wanted to I could rape both of them at the same time. It also pisses me off because they are basically blaspheming the gods.
Moral of this rant is to stop being a twat loving twat. I think vikings are cool too but I embrace all aspects of Asatru not just the "Fun and cool" bits.
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No.11962
Taking the passive / receptive role in male homosexuality was always seen as shameful in Norse culture.
Performing magic such as seiðr was seen as feminine and shameful for a man to do as well. Varg may say otherwise but the actual historical evidence shows this.
Both of these feminine things resulted in death of the effeminate male in most cases or in rare cases exile for a year and a day with the threat of execution for a repeated offence.
In the earliest times, taking the dominant role in gay sex wasn't seen as shameful, and in some texts the Gods boast of fucking other men.
Whether taking the dominant role in gay sex becoming known as a shameful act was a development native to Asatru, or whether it came from outside influences is debatable. Regardless, Norse pagans were eventually killing gay men regardless of their role in the act.
Despite there being overwhelming evidence for gays being killed, I'm yet to see any evidence of racism or of foreigners being refused the right to practise Asatru.
Gaels, Celts, Saxons, Balts and Slavs who were captured and/or taken as thralls seemed to be allowed to follow their own faiths or follow the Norse faith.
In fact on the issue of race, Harald Hardrada had no issue in having a Sami lover and half Sami kids. Yet when he caught his half Sami son performing feminine magic like seiðr and dressing as a seiðkona, Harald killed his own son and his son's friends by setting fire to the building they were in.
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No.11965
>>11962
Part of Asatru is not necessarily simply re-creating the original faith, but to take the principles and mores of our ancestors and apply them to the modern world.
If a viking were alive today, do you think he would enjoy the vibrancy? Would he be campaigning for black lives matter?
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No.11973
>>11962
>when he caught his half Sami son performing feminine magic like seiðr and dressing as a seiðkona, Harald killed his own son and his son's friends by setting fire to the building they were in.
>tfw you're the king of norway but your son's a stinking hippie that does shrooms all day
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No.12499
>the usual homosexuality found in the natural world, BUT…
>Homosexuality is found even in the Kama Sutra
>part of traditional hindu society
>not written by SJWs or in a progressive era
>India with its Kama Sutra - instructions on lovemaking, seen as an Art according to ones caste and inner nature - being part of our shared Indo-European, ie Aryan, heritage
>the only penalty/law-breaking found with textual sources (repeated on this board) is Penis In Ass [the receptive, feminized, male partner seen as less manly]
>solution: don't do anal PiA sex
Furthermore, there have been males like Michael Kühnen who've proven themselves manly (honor, defending Whites, germans specifically in post-WW2 Germany; using violence and power) despite their sexual orientation
>>2431
>Faggots are condemned by the gods and our people.
Sometimes posters claim to speak 'for the gods', other times posters sound like average leddit atheists such as >>11907
At the very least the case of Michael Kühnen shows, like with Jack Donovan, that homosexuality does not necessarily imply non-manliness… However, they'll always be a minority (as observed in nature and human societies up to this point; AND legends/myths of pre-christian religions) of X percent and should be held at a distance
>>4834
maximum cuck; Hitler's Ernst Roehm (before power struggles led to Night of Long Knives; up to that point there are no negative opinions expressed on Roehm's sexuality, Hitler referring to them as a separate outside-of-burgeois-politician-society 'warrior group' [MÄNNERBUNDE]) and Kühnen above would be more of a Man strictly for defending their own Race and In-Group still knowing they'd not reproduce themselves
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No.12500
>>11965
This would then include
>racial, white, survival > all else; if there is no folk IRL then no Asatru (homos can be brothers on a meta-level if against cuckery and internationalist racemixing politics)
>getting rid of semite (judaic, Pauline Christianity-) baggage, including sexual morals
>>11962
>In the earliest times, taking the dominant role in gay sex wasn't seen as shameful, and in some texts the Gods boast of fucking other men.
etc
I've read up on sodomy laws as long as wikipedia and search engines can take me (save for looking up academic texts, haven't got the time for it atm); alwas about Penis-entering-the-Anus-of-the-receptive-partner –→ receptive male seen as feminine due to the act resembling vaginal penetration
Funny thing is I can assume that there are people on this board that preach some sort of plato/aristotle Middle Way Virtues, or even sexual celibacy (self-chosen); why shouldn't the few % of homosexual asatruar be able to abstain from anal penile penetration - there's still frotting, mutual masturbation, oral sex or simply not fucking at all
Considering the above "In earliest times…. boast of fucking other men"; be careful with always claiming to speak _directly_ for The Gods such as >>2431
>Faggots are condemned by the gods and…
This being said, degenerate behaviour [modern era: high risk sex leading to AIDS, that is high risk NOT safe/precautions taken] and effeminacy [nonmasculinity; not helping the tribe, not assisting families or society, not upholding Order/Law/Decency in public, not fighting or assisting the fighting section of the populace if there should be a war, etc]
>>2431
>make sure you set up near a bog so this filth can be executed like our ancestors would want.
Read the wikipedia entry on Michael Kühnen - this man had more courage than most at the time and today [compared to us keyboard warrors. I am NOT saying that online presence/activity is unimportant, but…]
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No.12501
>>11899
>Homosexuality contributes nothing to society.
one: the usual playwrites, artists, people working with aesthetical proffessions
two: Alan fucking Turing in WW2, he was of utmost importance for the outcome of the war AND computing in general (code decipherment, machine learning, his paper 'Computing Machinery and Intelligence'). Had he been bog'd early on in life for being gay then things would have played out very differently; his contributions were not "nothing".
three: read up on the Japanese; their Kshatriya/warrior caste of Samurais have had, in ancient times before modernization, homosexual intercourse as a traditional fighter element, with regards to virility and exchange of power. (disconnected from laymen life, BUT this shows that homosexual acts can serve a purpose as bonding - see also 'The Sacred Band of Thebes' for more Warrior-Context homosex)
>In ancient societies even Norse you would be hard pressed to find any men who were exclusively homosexual. Even the Greeks had wives for procreation at least (and they fucked men on the side). Because procreation was vital to society.
Notice how they didn't "Bog" them in an instant but could allow these things to co-exist given that they upheld societal balance?
btw, Alexander The Great gave the most expensive funeral not to any of his wives, but his MALE LOVER who died in battle. Verified historical fact.
Besides homosexuals pollute people's minds. They are teaching our kids earlier and earlier that being gay is natural trying to brainwash them. Now you have trends where boys and girls claim they are bisexual because they think it is "cool".
Nordic countries and Britain have become cucked yeah I am sure your forebears where also ok with refugee rape gangs kek.
You need to separate (((Frankfurt School))) marxist subversion - the march through institutions, specifically to disrupt White Families and flood White Societies with nonwhites - from metaphysical, natural sexual expressions.
Otherwise we wouldn't have had up to this point:
>Homosexuality, gay sex, talks of Sodomy in law texts
>divine myths with male/male fucking or the gods doing seemingly un-manly/un-womanly traits from time to time
… if we are to assume they're all recent Modern Era, Leftist/Marxist (((mainstream))) creations coming from the outside.
India is more conservative and traditional than most of the West, their 'Kama Sutra' compiled between 400 BCE and 200 CE; no jewish or SJW subversion having taken place, yet homosexuality has its own place - limited to a certain part of the populace, with certain goals and aspirations defined by their inner nature [not for anyone, they must respect the Natural Order back, likewise] and most importantly not shunned entirely.
Now I know that Hinduism and Asatru are not the same; but you cannot deny the I-E aryan link, just as this board has thread on the Rus/Slavic connection etc
>cognates:
>Odin-Rudra, Thor-Vishnu
>Cosmotheism
>Nature-as-Divine, the importance of stones and more
>Order, ie Dharma and its equivalent in ancient Norse society
>Four Varnas ('castes') in hinduism - with Norse Society having three (Priest/Warrior fused into one, according to Georges Dumezil)
>etymology…
>norse Berserkers - hindu Vratyas
and so on
Tacitus's Germania is one piece of the overarching puzzle
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No.12503
tl;dr
Homosexuality is already part of Nature, and homosexuals will not cease to be part of nature's creation, BUT:
>must respect the majority
>must support the tribe, take one's own side when in danger
>not push effeminacy
>not push degeneracy
>know their place in the society [ie not entitled to everything and anything - this applies to all people because traditional society implies HIERARCHIES]
this thread becomes absurd if we take OP's hard stance with "… so this filth can be executed like our ancestors would want.", with how homosexuality is recorded in ancient
>Scandinavia
>Hellas
>India
>Japan
>Rome
>Gods recorded as having performed homosexual acts/rites
>Warrior bands; Männer-bunde, Sacred Band of Thebes, Alexander The Great himself
>various people from "High Art" classical european civilization being thought of as atleast bi
if you take out the racial element of the equation then you'd be left with just Behavioral Psychology; if assumed to be a learned trait with Modern-Day West displaying more homosexuals due to (((outside forces))) subverting the minds; then why does the qualities/properties still exist further back in time AND the prehistorical myths of our tribe's Gods/-esses?
There's still that part about "knowing one's place"; gays cannot marry or procreate and SHOULDN'T, they can serve other needs for the society, just as every cretin among straight society shouldn't procreate either 'just to prove a point' (see Hitler era Germany and positive eugenics to breed healthier and healthier offspring)
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No.12505
>>12503
Kill yourself, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Just end yourself.
>>>/bog/
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No.12506
>>12505
>can't refute anything I've just mentioned
too hard to grasp that homosexuals aren't necessarily always flaming feminized faggot, perhaps even manly?
bigger fish to fry, ie nonwhite immigration and marxist politi-religious ideological warfare against asatru and similar religions such as rodnovery or romuva
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No.12507
>>12505
>replying with stock phrases such as kys and >>>bog
do you want this board to become the next stagnated r/asatru with a hivemind?
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No.12508
>>12505
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality#Europe
>Aristotle, in the Politics, dismissed Plato's ideas about abolishing homosexuality (2.4); he explains that barbarians like the Celts accorded it a special honour (2.6.6),
>while the Cretans used it to regulate the population (2.7.5).[6]
btw, I need to find my sources on this one, but I've read elsewhere that the greeks had a hierarchy of male/male sex: Oral Sex regarded the highest, followed with Intercrural - then with anal sex coming in last place, due to said "sticking it up the ass is dirty/unnatural/gross" factor [ie it was not without its downsides even for the fashy pederasts]
^I need to re-check my sources on this though, it's been over a year since I read about it
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No.12509
>>12503
go home milo, the christians didnt accept you and we wont either
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No.12510
Femininity is not weakness.
Femininity is not cowardice.
Femininity is not foolishness.
Femininity is not cruelty.
A strong woman called upon by battle will go to battle, and she will spill the blood of her enemy, for femininity can be fierce.
Simply being gay or transgender does not make you weak, cowardly, unjust, or stupid. It only makes you gay or transgender. A person with such a lifestyle might not be understood by me, but if they choose to live their life how they want, and they live with courage, strength, kindness, and intelligence, I shall respect them and defend them, as I do now.
I have no quarrel with femininity. It is why I adore my wife, and my daughter.
But show me a coward, a fool, a brute, or a weak person, and I'll show you a person I will not associate with.
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No.12511
>Hinduism as one I-E, or aryan, cousin to Asatru [cognates such as Odin/oðr - Rudra]
>Alain Danielou:
>Rightist, Perennialist, Traditionalist
>again equality
>born a frenchman, related to the Nestlé founder IIRC
>was able to naturalize himself into hindu society, _with his male lover_, living there for 20 or so years
>no "bog" to speak of, and even hindus look down on homosex from a mainstream societal POV (many are born into for, and opt for during the course of their lives, heterosexual childrearing household lives, just as we do in the west)
“Homosexuality is recognized [in the Hindu tradition] as a biological fact, given the necessity for all the intermediate degrees between masculine and feminine…. "
- India: A Civilization of Differences, Inner Traditions, 2003, p. 11.
*notice that already-more-conservative/traditional India still does not have a legit tradition of SJW transgenders despite this fact; the concept of Transgender Rights and Feminism is a modern phenomenon over there just as for the West/Europe/modern day America
(((who))) lobbies or pays for this to happen?
Has India NOT survived for 4-5000 years, as a Civilization (longer than ancient Hellas/Rome/Scandinavia, b4 christianization took place), despite homosexuality occurring amongst a few?
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No.12512
Feeling shame at your actions is what makes you weak.
If you're going to get fucked by a man, be proud of it, and if you fuck a man, be proud of it. Those who mock you: Slay them. Do not show weakness to those who would dishonor your life choices. Those who say "Do not do things I would not do" are cowards, and cowardice is something I despise above all other things.
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No.12513
>>12509
>Milo
sorry dude, I'm neither jewish* or libertarian** OR non-racialist [Milo is only rightist to the point of getting rid of muslims so he can continue his #BBC fuckfest with White, Aryan, society paying for his shenanigans]
* Milo has openly stated his jewishness and bragged about how they "do own the media, so what" - I assume you're familiar with this
** libertarianism is a philosophical pipe-dream more than a viable political system, since created in the cucked Enlightement Era (the word appeared in 1789), ie see what happens when the U.S. and European countries get flooded with racially, historically and spiritually differentiated peoples
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No.12514
>>12511
Focusing on the actual harm it causes is wise.
Anyways, the harm is very small for a few obvious reasons. People who aren't interested in breeding with women aren't going to make good parents, and if a gay couple really wants to adopt a child, they'll probably make extremely good parents, just because of their willingness. Better a gay couple than an unwilling single mother.
Not only that, but aren't you a bit suspicious regarding anti-LGBT sentiment? It's not a secret that puritan cultures such as Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are very hateful of LGBT people.
It's also not a secret that those religions hate Asatru as well, to the point of trying to rid the Earth of our religion and culture, and make it all Christian, which is why you were probably raised as a Christian. They already converted your ancestors in an attempt to wipe you out, the same way they'd try to wipe out LGBT people.
I wouldn't trust anti-LGBT sentiment one bit, just for that reason. Not to mention, as a person who considers myself free, to think that I can judge another person's actions, a person who I do not even know, all for an act that causes me no harm, is terrible.
It is not my place to judge another man. I will leave that to the Gods. I recommend you do the same too. Murderers, rapists, and thieves might need to be slain or imprisoned, but when it comes down to this issue, I know my place. I will not judge a person for their choice of lover.
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No.12515
>>12511
>again equality
*AGAINST equality
>>12512
You seem to see where I'm going; Principles, Character, Order > being a rude dick à la Loki
>>12510
>but if they choose to live their life how they want, and they live with courage, strength, kindness, and intelligence, I shall respect them and defend them, as I do now.
taken into the present day, the entire Western-Europan-Aryan world faces a huge threat of demographic/cultural/religious* replacement; Michael Kühnen (see pic above, his Wiki page is a good read) is one of many who realized the importance of his race living on in the future, beyond his own lifetime. He serves as ONE example of a gay man self-sacrificing for the good of the Tribe [in this case, his own german people]
*semitic baggage, mostly. See "Deus Vult"-posters displaying cognitive dissonance over current Pope licking the feet of dindus and helping 3rd worlders instead of Whites (the whole 'Europe is the Faith' thing disproven after Vatican II) or the likes of Milo… Or people equating Loki with Satan [Satan appears _for the first time_ in a jewish context, compared to Lucifer who has cognates in I-E hellas/Rome (Prometheus)]
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No.12516
>>12512
historical anecdote illustrating this:
>Hitler was hesitant in authorizing Röhm's execution, and gave him the option of suicide. On 1 July, SS-Brigadeführer Theodor Eicke (then Kommandant of the Dachau concentration camp) and SS-Obersturmbannführer Michael Lippert walked into his cell, laid a pistol on the table, told Röhm he had ten minutes to use it and left. He refused, stating, "If I am to be killed, let Adolf do it himself."[11] Having heard nothing after the stipulated ten minutes, Eicke and Lippert returned to Röhm's cell to find him standing with his bare chest puffed out in a gesture of defiance, and Lippert shot him in the chest at point-blank range. The bullet hit Röhm in the heart, killing him almost instantly.[12]
>John Toland noted that Hitler had long been privately aware that Röhm and his SA associates were homosexuals; in their defense Hitler had stated that "the SA are a band of warriors and not a moral institution".[13] In a speech on 13 July, Hitler alluded to Röhm's homosexuality but explained the purge as mainly a defense against treason.[14]
>note MAINLY AGAINST TREASON
>In an attempt to erase Röhm from German history, all known copies of the 1933 propaganda film The Victory of Faith (Der Sieg des Glaubens), in which Röhm appeared, were ordered destroyed in 1934. The Victory of Faith was long thought to have been lost until a single copy was found in storage in Britain in the 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm#Death
^this is relevant to this thread since Hitler-Era Germany wished to wipe out non-aryan judaeochristianity (see 'Positive Christianity', and endless debates on whether Hitler actually was catholic or Asatru/germanic-pagan)
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No.12517
>>12516
> since Hitler-Era Germany wished to …
…. and Ernst Rohm with his Männerbunde-function SA demonstrated a very Indo-European, ie Aryan, ie asatruar by proxy, concept [Warrior-Band put outside of normal everyday household society]
back to India:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_India
>Historical literary evidence indicates that homosexuality has been prevalent across the Indian subcontinent throughout history, and that homosexuals were not necessarily considered inferior in any way until about 18th century.[17]
18th century = Enlightenment Era = faggy Rationalism, """Equality""" and Mechanical Clockwork Universe-scientism Judaeo-Christian philosophers starting to dominate in the West; how much of this affected them? [plus, Muslim invaders]
in spite of this, traditional society and _ancient_ sources such as the Kama Sutra display that aryans in India were/are not 100% against homosexuality, contrary to OP post.
Also, how "Bog Bodies = Gays" might be insufficient >>11381
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No.12518
>>12510
In the heat of battle there's no time to get upset over others' sexual lives - what matters is if gays defend me, my family and my countrymen against our enemies, or not. Should Life-or-Death situations occur then there's hardly any space to think anyway (fight or flight).
Even if not physically fighting there's still things like objecting to racial miscegenation, upholding law/order, not spreading disease and so on. Cucks like Milo that appear Rightleaning but tells people to relax re: Black-on-White and a racialist POV not being of importance, they still hurt society but with words and ideas instead of fists.
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No.12520
>>12518
Basically this.
Gay or transgender people have no quarrel with me. Instead, I see something like OP's post, and I feel disappointed.
Suicide is cowardice to the highest level. If OP is saying "Being gay is wrong, but suicide is a fine action to take", then I think OP is so utterly twisted, that I should take the utter reverse action. If OP is only speaking of murdering the innocent for their "sexual crimes", akin to how an Islamist would do the same, then that is equally foul to me. Do not take murder of a another person lightly. We each get only one life to prove our worth, and I would never speak ill of a person unless I had very good reason to.
In Valhalla, I shall wish to be with people who have strong minds that know when to be kind, gentle, and loving, as well as harsh, strong, and stern.
I shall defend LGBT people at the expense of hostile people who wish them ill-will. That is all I can see now. I came to this thread neutral, but a surge of bloodlust over this injust bullshit awakened the truth in me.
It is clear that there is no harm being done when it comes to LGBT business. It might not be my cup of tea, but it's also not my business.
Instead, I feel the urge to axe some heads when I hear "The gods want you to commit suicide", rather than "The gods want you to live the life you choose to live.".
This sort of gossip-tier "kill yourself lol" bullshit seriously sickens me, and if the general population of Asatruars agree with suicide, rather than living freely, then I will find a better culture, one that doesn't encourage the ultimate act of cowardice, as well as murdering the innocent.
OP's post is a testament to cruelty, cowardice, and brutish stupidity. I cannot abide.
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No.12522
>>12510
The Norse and other Germanic tribes forbade women from owning weapons or fighting. The rare recorded cases where they actually attacked somebody ended in their own defeat/restraint and served only as a humiliation for her own men (she was forced to act because they did not).
But you're right about one thing. Femininity is not something bad inherently, I think it's actually a great thing. It's only negative when somebody who should not be feminine (a man) behaves in a feminine manner.
Likewise, being a child isn't bad, but if an adult acts like one then childishness is a negative thing in this context.
>>12514
>It is not my place to judge another man. I will leave that to the Gods.
You decry Christianity for your whole post and then quote them almost verbatim in the last sentence?
Of course you judge people. How else do you navigate through life? You do judge people, you just want your own inverted version of Christianity (liberalism) to prevail over the original (and don't pretend you're not, your whole post is dripping with a form of liberalism that would be completely alien to any body born before 1900).
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No.12525
>>12522
A mother wolf defends her cubs and her pack with her teeth and her life.
To say women should not fight is nothing but foolishness, and if you have an ounce of wisdom, you will understand that.
Humans are not beings that should submit to tradition or ritual this easily. We need to think for ourselves.
The point of not judging another person is to avoid making enemies with strangers with whom you have no reason to make enemies with.
Do you fight because you have to, or because you are a brute? Do you judge people because you search for wisdom in what they say, or do you judge them so you can feel superior?
When judging a person, I see no reason to judge them on their sexual choices. I say leave that to the gods, not because I expect a god to judge them, but because it is foolish, cruel, and does nothing but atttempt to shame the innocent for doing no harm.
I'm not a creationist.
Humans evolved from animals, and our connection to nature will ALWAYS overrule subjective ideals and traditions. Denying this makes you a liar and a fool. A mother wolf is the model I will respect. Not one based on nonsensical tradition.
A child is curious, and it is not bad to be curious.
A child can also cause pain, yet I would not say that is such a good thing.
A woman can be spiteful or petty.
But a woman can also be kind and caring.
Being like a child or like a woman is not a bad thing, unless you are only emulating the worst parts of those entities.
Again, the people a person has sex with has nothing to do with you, a stranger, and if you judge people for this sort of thing and end up making enemies of good people who would normally have no reason to oppose you, you WILL be met with hostility from me, and anyone else who can see past your hokey worship of traditions only when it suits you and your political views.
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No.12527
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No.12530
>>12525
Women could fight to defend themselves if they absolutely had no other choice, sure. They shouldn't just die if they can avoid it. But so what? It's not in their realm and they wouldn't be good at it. Just as if you gave a man a baby, he'd do his best to take care of it and make sure it didn't die, but it would not be true to say that because a man would try do this, it is therefor a manly thing to do and men ought to put themselves in this situation willingly.
>we need to think for ourselves
>that's why I parrot everything academia and the media have been telling me for half a century
You seem to think that every action somebody does can be taken in isolation from what he is at his core. This is not an idea that has a home anywhere outside of the post-1950 western world.
If somebody does things of a certain character in the past and present, then you think it wrong to judge that he would do things of the exact same character in the future, as well? What a terribly confusing world you must live in.
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No.12631
>>12530
>think for ourselves
>parrots modern era reductionist "Heterosexuality is the only valid phenomenon occurring in nature according to its Laws"
>while homosexuality is found in Nature, various societies/races/social classes
>throughout history
sounds like the same crap that gives us fedora tier 'Gods aren't real phenomena, only used as a Working Class exploitation device back in the ancient world, fuck yeah >le science' bs
you do know that people arguing "the only valid thing is heterosexuality because of Reproductive Needs in the Human Species" - anything anti-reproduction seen as redundant - inherit Darwinist thought, itself a modern world phenomenon with political 'biological materialism' stemming from it
you wouldn't dare try to discredit the social function of homosexual acts in strengthening the morale of the Sacred Band of Thebes, affecting the chances of success, for example
btw, academia AND surviving texts both notice how the shameful act lies in passive "female" reception of penetration - despite Tacitus's Bog Commentary, the homosexual act's penetrator would not have been punished :^)
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No.12959
>>4618
What about putting your dick in someone else's asshole you know prison gay style
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No.12960
>>4650
> Even the vikings who were more "progressive" than most other germanic tribes
I see Sweden was up to its old tricks even as far back as the 9th century
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No.13103
>>2431
Not an Asatruar, but why does the ancient document call homosexuals "sodomites" I thought that was a term exclusive to Abrahamic religions. Also. Don't you go to Helheim no matter what unless you die a warrior's death?
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No.13104
>>13103
The writings of Tacitus are based on second and even third-hand information given to him - he never visited the Germanic lands himself, and in any case, even if he was correct that was centuries before the Norse mythology of the Vikings, and there is no evidence any homosexual was killed in the Viking age, or by the Scandinavians.
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No.13106
To the homotrus out there, I challenge you to show us any saga with a homosexual or lesbian couple.
Hard mode: Show us a saga with a fag couple portrayed as a good and righteous path to follow.
Nightmare mode: Show us an instance of any homosexual act that is portrayed as anything other than a total joke or insult.
KYS mode: After failing this, reflect on what this means.
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No.13108
>>13106
Raised by extraterrestial gods in Atlantean training camps mode: Show us a saga written before the christianization of the lands, and free of the Christian moralist worldview of the authors.
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No.13109
>>13108
The Jew rises mode: show a Christian text free of the influence of Paul
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No.13112
>>13108
Ive always found this argument to be somewhere along the lines of Afro-centrists claiming that Africans were an accomplished society far ahead of Europe, but their only evidence for this is lack of evidence. What do you mean theres no giant Pyramids in Sub-Saharan Africa? Obviously the white man destroyed them, destroyed all records of them and killed anyone who remembered that they existed. Thats how I know they exist.
Here we see the same logic coming from a person on the same side of the grand political spectrum trying to revise our own history, by saying "Well nothing was recorded by the Pagans themselves, therefore its all false ! It means whatever I want it to mean!"
If you really believe the Sagas and Eddas are contaminated beyond all hope, why do you call yourself Asatru? Clearly our pro fag jizz wizard religion has been completely lost to the Christians, why not go be a faggot Satanist instead? If you dont trust the parts of the Sagas that say faggots are shameful, why trust any of them? Why trust anything about Norse myth at all? Youre like those faggots at cracked.com who think the norse myths are all 100 percent false because snorri wrote them down, nevermind the Roman reports on early germanic religion being almost identical to what Snorri described, nevermind the archeological evidence that depicts the exact scenes described in the myths, no a Christian wrote it, its obviously Christian propaganda.
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No.13114
>>13108
>implying genuine Christian contamination wouldn't be to make the pre-Christian pagans look as degenerate as possible
>implying that's not what they do now
>implying you didn't fall for it
>>13112
I used to say there was an unspoken pact between Christians and Cultural Marxists that jewsus invented not being a faggot or a degenerate, and the the human being's natural state is to be such.
Now I realize it's not so much a pact as it is the platform from a single, fractured Judaic religion. The only rifts between them are what they perceive the implications from this shared, unchallenged premise to be.
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No.13115
>>13114
>mfw I just saw the word filter
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No.13116
>>13114
youre likely right, I doubt the person here arguing for faggotry in paganism is actually himself a pagan. if he is, since the sagas are all clearly too christian, he probably bases his knowledge, lore and rituals off pulling shit out of his ass like most wiccatru and larpagans.
Ive noticed alot of wiccans have an intense aversion to any kind of historicity when it comes to paganism, they often claim that all we know is from Christians so we cant presume anything…..while basing most of their rituals off things described in Malleus Maleficarum, or just making shit up on their own. the real reason they are averse to it is once you study historical paganism you realize how full of shit they are, and the fact the historical pagans probably would have tossed them off a cliff for being weak
what do you think of Raven Kaldera ?
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No.13117
>>13116
>Raven Kaldera
Oh, fuck, it's the "fisting for Odin" guy. Why did you have to remind me he exists?
>an intense aversion to any kind of historicity when it comes to paganism
That's because it's a Chad religion. Any of the surviving texts will show this (and no, Christians wouldn't have made them look that way in order to appear better). These dopes would have been endlessly harassed and bullycided by their own ancestors were they born back then.
If anything, the Christians were the numales of yesteryear… beta, subversive, hate-filled, and constantly looking down their noses at those savages. Can you believe they cling to the old ways despite it being the current year? The wiccatru of today would probably be one of them.
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No.13144
>>7448
>indecent behaviour in male/female relationships - in public - as well
>implying vikings didn't fuck in public
sorry, buddy. I read an account from a ME trader who said that the Vikings were like "children" in their sexuality, in the sense that if they were flirting and got the urge, they just fucked on a rock right there in front of everybody. Obviously, not like in the middle of the circle… like off to the side, but not hiding it at all
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No.13145
>>13144
source
also big difference between not being ashamed of sex and being a degenerate faggot
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No.13149
>>13144
Is that the same arab trader that said that homosexuality and pederasty was totally unknown among them?
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No.13389
Lol, if you really have that much of a problem with gays, then you're no better than Christians. Don't let the Jews fool you into thinking all lgbt are little SJW liberal fucks.
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No.13390
>>13389
Into the bog with you!
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No.13391
>>13389
yeah jews are against gays so obviously its a jewish thing…..
this is the same kinda logic christcucks try to use when arguing against european tribalism, "b-but the jews do that too!"
yes
and thats why theyve been winning
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No.13392
>>13391
Why would Jews like European tribalism? You missed my point. Do you have one argument against gays other than your own insecure masculinity and Jews?
You guys litterally blame everything you don't like on Jews, and you'll find any way you can to pin it on them.
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No.13396
>>13392
youre the one that brought up jews you stupid shill fuck , scroll up to where you said "Dont let the jews fool you into thinking faggots arent gay"
i have several arguments against queer faggots like you, for one how do you like having anal tears in your asshole? how many pozloads did you take today? fuck off you shill kike go back to /christ/
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No.13398
>>13389
Funny how somebody says this every month or so.
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No.13438
I'm transgender (MTF), can I be an Asatru?
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No.13442
>>13438
That's still homosexuality, so you'd probably get the bog
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No.13443
>>13438
im afraid the bog is the best i can offer
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No.13445
>>13443
>>13442
Even if I take a vow of celibacy, and remain unmarried? I could be a god-tier seidhr.
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No.13448
>>13445
>>2506
No because seidhr is for women, you'd still be a man pretending to be a woman.
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No.13449
>>13448
>>13448
That's a shame.
Then, I wonder if you could point me in the direction of other pagan paths, which might be more permissive of my degeneracy?
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No.13450
>>13449
Cast resurrect on
>>>/wicca/
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No.13457
>>13449
"Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!"
t. pompei graffiti
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No.13458
>>13117
>Christians were the numales of yesteryear
Franks were harsh fucks, arianistic goths too.
You cant just project what you dont like in people today on ancient adversaris.
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No.13467
>>13458
Numales? I don't think so. Going off of what they did historically it's much closer to modern Islam
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No.13471
>>13458
>>13467
I mean earlier on. Obviously once they had already subverted a culture, they used it as a hammer against its neighbors. If they encountered a stronger culture, they moved in and targeted the women and children of the most alpha pagans and the less scrupulous pagan men. Eventually they installed themselves in positions of influence and it was downhill from there.
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No.13576
>>12960
>>12960
U.S. whites have nordic/scandi/viking heritage/genetics in them - to a certain extent and territories - so stop the subvertive infighting between White aryan peoples (Current Year) and focus on the real enemy
>WW1: Rohm got the Iron Cross (First Class - while Hitler reached 2nd) awarded to him in 1916
>implying uselessness for the folk of his nation
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No.14108
>>2435
The answer is giant meat grinders
https://youtu.be/HA1dVYyXc8Y
We live in an industrial age now and our practices need to be updated. And we have an industrial scale faggot problem.
I'm don't think I've ever visited a bog, but the closest thing near me might be swamps and estuaries. They're quite beautiful and important to the local ecosystem. I wouldn't want to turn them into cursed/haunted areas by dumping millions of human corpses there.
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No.14109
>>14108
As someone who makes sausage for a living and is very acquainted with meat grinders. I wholly support this and volunteer as the executioner who pushes the switch.
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No.15826
Who knew this board had so many fags, feminists, and their apologists?
Every pre-modern society investigated for faggotry did the following when it came to faggotry:
1. It was "tolerated" under the assumption that the fags and/or dykes would know their place while still fulfilling obligations to society. A Greek man who wasn't a slave would be expected to get a wife and produce offspring. Even in Africa a Nigger woman would have been expected to get a male to have their children even if a dyke.
2. It was practiced by cloistered off men on boys and other societal inferiors. Which has more to do with letting off steam thanks to a lack of women (see the boy hunting in modern day Afghanistan) or contempt for them.
3. It was regulated with fags/dykes/trannies being expected to follows conduct for their roles. Whether it was not doing anal penetration, being required to dress a certain way, being barred from select occupations, etc.
>>12510
>t. White Knight
>>12517
>>12511
>WE HINDUS WUZ FAGS N SHEET
>Kama Sutra
lol, the Manusmriti proscribed cutting dyke's fingers off and flogging them. Men who muh diked men were condemned there as well. Fags, Dykes, all other LBGTUIOPDF freaks were treated as defective men or women at best even before Achmeds and Limeys invaded.
>>12512
Yes, don't let those Straight White Males condemn your cuck porn and tranny antics. ((Goy))!
>>12631
>found in Nature
Show us all the fag non-humans in the wild who do so for years on end without mating with the opposite sex when they have enough contact with it. Without being monosexual species.
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No.15827
>>15826
Also, pre-modern societies around the world prioritized carrying on your lineage. Especially for women, hence the worldwide suspicion towards childless single women pass peak fertility (see the Old Crone/Wicked Witch archetype). Saying that condemning or at least regulating actions that impeded it is some modern trend invented by Darwinism is garbage and transparent hedonist faggotry.
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No.15832
>>11899
Even the Greek being bumbandits is disputable. The fact they used it as a label is discredit and insult each other is very telling
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No.15840
>>15832
James Davidson and Bruce S. Thornton have the currently best research on Classical Greek sexuality.
Their evidence says that yes, males could fuck other males but only in select situations and aside from ritualized exception like the Sacred Band they still had to carry out their duty to their lineage (which had them finding a woman, getting children, and providing for them).
You need to remember that as Michael Foucault noted homosexuality in the meaning of an identity as opposed to an action is a product of modernity. Who you select for a partner goes in line with your position and role in society.
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No.15853
>>15840
Oh, that's pretty disappointing, not gonna lie
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No.15854
>>15840
Was it rare though?
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No.15855
>>15854
It's doubtful there were significantly more men who fucked men back in their day then now when accounting for population.
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No.15887
There's an easy solution to the faggot question.
Simply segregate all of the degenerates into their own communities - they will all die out in one generation, and we don't have to actually kill any of them.
Plus, cool things like AIDS will spread like wildfire within such shitholes (as they already do among the LGBTQASDFKJASLKFJSA community today), culling those indecent cunts from the herd prematurely. It would also probably be a good way to contain the spread of STDs (although TBH if you get an STD from being a promiscuous whore, you deserve it) and eventually (hopefully) lead to the extinction of such diseases from our own communities (the same cannot be said for such culturally enriching places such as the lands of the negerhorden).
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No.15896
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No.15897
>>15896
The Spartans were way more cucked than Athenians. Sparta is an example of where feminism leads you (defeat and fading away).
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No.15907
>>15897
Yes it certainly did. That however was a consequence of the Peloponnesian wars (wars that ended up ruining all the city states, not just Sparta) killing off a good chunk of the male population. Women (due to the more lax laws placed on them) stepped in to fill the vacuum and that's when Sparta started to fade, similar to Europe after the first and second world wars. There are things I liked about their system though, the idea that married couples should keep each other sexually satisfied and the 'prudishness' stand out in particular
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No.15913
The notion of homosexuality as a state of being instead of an action was largely alien before the 19th century. Before the rise of psychology, there wasn't homosexuality as shown today, there was buggery yes, an act negatively regarded even among Greeks. Psychologists claimed that homosexuality was hard-determined from birth since in the 1890's they figured that much was hard-determined. The LBGT lobby kept that notion since it helped them deflect criticism (if you can't change it, you can't be blamed for it). But reality is, if you went back in time and presented our understanding of 'being gay' to civilizations like the Greeks or Japanese, they would all scratch their heads.
The Sexual Revolution and feminism helped push the Born This Way narrative since it served to again, deflect criticism of their shilled lifestyles even after evidence of how dysfunctional they are. Scientifically the evidence isn't really there.
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No.16174
Reminder that Loki and many other Gods could shift gender
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No.16176
>>16174
Remainder, Loki assumedly molested his daughter Hel and that is why wherever Hel walks wildflowers grow and as everyone here knows wildflowers produce asexually. Also there's a story where Odin gave some of his metal to someone he presumed to be a hero, this nameless hero who could have had any woman he wanted instead fucked his sister out of cowardice its said or presumed faggotry, I guess and so in the next glorious slaughter of battle this hero was cut down and his body lost in the fray, so his comrades could not give him burial rights and also the sister fell through the ice, sometime latter. The namesless hero's comrades joined with the man who claimed the metal and the gifted hero became nameless.
Also know Loki still remains imprisoned by the Aesir but his children ever wish to free their father and doom the worlds, plunging everything back into the abyss again.
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No.16239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGCzh7KdaQ
I stumbled upon this obese faggot today. Obviously i disagree with him, but i'm interested in what you guys have to say.
So many people that need to be bogged, but so little bogs…
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No.16246
>>16239
Bog dodgers will get their meeting with Hel. Isber hasn't posted a video in a year so I bet he's moved onto something. One glaring thing he lacks if he wishes to purport himself as an emissary of the Aesir is a skill to survive, I doubt he can work wood or metal, unable to plan or feed himself properly. He may read what others have written but Heimdal has given him no gifts since his fate is becoming certain. He was probably raised poorly but as with the tree the malnourishment of early roots has the effect of stunting and deforming further growth.
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No.16255
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No.16894
>>16174
>he forgot Loki isnt a god
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No.16897
>>16894
Loki is a halfbreed his father a Jotun while his mother an Aesir. Loki and all his brothers are mongrels.
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No.16898
There isn't a single respectable society that accepted homosexuality unconditionally. Fags and dykes were only permitted to pursue select examples (see the Greek allowance of adolescent boys, not adult men) of the same sex and citizenship. Even then they were regulated for conduct (no anal penetration) with the roles and behaviors for the sexes maintained.
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No.16899
>>2431
I'm not here to cause too much fuss. But you clearly don't know latin nor have you cared to even read nothing other than flawed translations.
Tacitus stated that the Germans drowned in swamps those who were ignavos et imbelles et corpore infames, usually translated as 'slothful and unwarlike and infamous in body.' The latter expression has been taken by some to mean passive homosexuals, perhaps those above a certain age. However, this seems to be a superficial reading which comports nicely with the anti-homosexual prejudice of its adherents… To apply the phrase, 'those with infamous bodies' to homosexuals would not have made any sense to readers of the period in which Tacitus wrote.
I've read up, down and backwards and cannot find the word sodomite in the original latin.
Tacitus was not referring to the Germanic tribes having any reservations against homosexuality at all, but that the ancient Germans practiced eugenics and the survival of the best and brightest. However, it is unfortunate that the Edda texts have been edited and altered by Christian monks, and these Christians made Germanic Paganism around the time of the Edda texts appear to have Christian reservations against homosexuality. Look at how we have lost Beowulf to poor translation
Or perhaps you are all just christcucks trying to rebel against your parents and haven't bothered to try to actually be independent thinkers
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No.16900
>>16899
Tacitus also says virgin marriage is the norm for the interior of Germany. If gays were allowed or somehow just a part of society then marriage of gays must also be, further "gay marriage" in either its ancient form or in this day and age is never happy with one partner so then the "one wife apiece under marriage" or "virgin marriage" goes out the window. Maybe you'll say next these "women" were all M2F trannies, in typical LGPTQP wicca circles?
>>Or perhaps you are all just christcucks trying to rebel against your parents
Christianity says, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." While it also has Woman being made from the rib of a Man, in that way all men are part woman. Germanics divided their society by families and only a Man and Woman can build a family.
<<that incitement of Germanics practicing bestiality
>>"Look at how we have lost"
>>"we"
I wouldn't call you friend or a part of this Thing.
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No.16902
>Tacitus also says virgin marriage is the norm for the interior of Germany.
This is true
>If gays were allowed or somehow just a part of society then marriage of gays must also be,
I would think they'd be indifferent to it, and I'd believe they wouldn't allow marriage between gays. The ancients practiced eugeneics; even the gays would get over themselves and find a wife. But that's just a possible correlation with other cultures and perhaps isn't even a probability.
>further "gay marriage" in either its ancient form or in this day and age is never happy with one partner
Ok. I don't care what you think you know about other's emotional welbeing or how faithful/unfaithful they may be; either in its ancient form or in this day. However polygamy has been practiced by several cultures before and after conversion.
>Maybe you'll say next these "women" were all M2F trannies, in typical LGPTQP wicca circles?
I only argued that y'all constantly misquote a Roman to get over your own semetically tought insecurities. You dishonor Tacticus and yourself with the ignorace you joyfully flaunt.
Abense of evidence is not evidence of absense. Just because you misquote Tacitcus doesn't mean gayness was full on accepted. Neither does it mean that it was actively persecuted. If you're going to be against, at least be honest in doing so.
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No.16903
>>16902
Arguing on specifics and edge cases is pointless, action has to be taken. Nerthus calls for the refuse of the folk. To long has it been for that ritual to take place since its banning by jews, even hangings or burnings do not happen anymore by the same jewish philosophy. If the burden of proof enables a passive homosexual to walk free sometimes, so be it, as I would not allow wanton accusations to devour the folk but to the shildy they will mess up and just like Loki be found out and sentenced as was done to him, until Ragnarok when someone frees him and he frees the rest, now draugr.
>>O'er the sea from the north there sails a ship
>>With the people of Hel, at the helm stands Loki
>>After the wolf do wild men follow,
>>And with them the brother of Byleist goes.
It is in Midgard where the final failing begins, "And sisters' sons shall kinship stain". I hope you know your place because the cycle always happens the same, when we fail now, it will be for all time as it was in the last cycle, on and on again upon the wheel of fate.
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No.16904
>>16903
You have an interesting and confusing philosophy there.. How is homosexuality akin to Loki's murder of Balder, the crime you seem to be alluding to?
Like you, I'd hate to see people eat themselves up over accusations found wanting. However, when dealing with wanting accusations that determine the fate of others, arguing on specifics and edge cases is absolute necessity. If Nerthus calls for the refuse of the folk, it is she who should come collecting.
I believe homosexuality exists because we have lost in the last cycle. I believe it will also fade with this Kali Yuga. The event of Ragnarok is not an end; but the brutal start of a new cycle and new worlds.
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No.16908
>>16904
Loke leading to Balder's death wasn't the only crime which he was sentenced for. The events described in the Lokasenna take place after Balder's death. One of Loki's lies is to say Freyja has a paramour and one of the reasons why the Aesir took away his freedom.
The Aesir give favors unto those who act. Their powers are not infinite, all our lives are finite and so planning is needed. The Children of Loki wish to free their father whom will cause revolt in the giants subdued by Thor and thus start the Ragnorak.
>>we have lost in the last cycle.
I once thought in your way that actions were different in the cycles. Now I can only see the wheel running the same each time, as it will in the next cycle or did in the previous cycle. There is little evidence by Germanics to tell either way though. Does it have to do Lethra?
>>I believe homosexuality exists because
My take would be it comes from powers allied to Hel who created an act to corrupt man and woman. It is no accident that gays are also known to be sexually abusive to children they come into contact with, arguably doing permanent damage bending these youthful stems to never shoot up and grow straight. Even the gays who stay among adult gays a similar rot takes place where the unnatural insular groups of these gays are created, they may have a strong internal bond through buggery and sexual abuse to each other but they cannot stand the external and rely on the actual strong, this degenerate mark consumes leaving weakness to be exploited.
>>Kali Yuga
I would say take care in Aryan concepts coming from no longer Aryan peoples as on the way down much corruption took place. At least Europeans in the onslaught of revenge only lost their memories and not who their ancestors were.
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No.16922
>>16908
Kali Yuga comes from very ancient Aryan texts from before mass Dravidian corruption. It is reliable, and if you had read any of it, you would know its all coming true. Hinduism has much valuable material if you just stick to the older stuff and avoid anything from more modern times (and by more modern, I mean basically anything post 500 AD)
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No.16944
>>16908
You'll have to forgive me, i fail to see how homosexuality is akin to any of Loki's crimes or trickeries or boons. I cannot make a connection between homosexuality and Loki.
Next, i never figured an asatru would succumb to as depressing a concept as predestination. If i understand you right, each time a new starts, it is completely identical to the last; and all growth, self determination, teamwork, and change play no part. You seem to be very nihilistic in this regard. Tell me, if each turn is indeed the same and we are doomed to lived as the last cycle had, is there no hope for anything beyond vague prophecy? Are we doomed to be goose stepped by fate into events and situations that we will never have any ability to change or interact with? Do you really believe that the direction of the turn of the wheel can never be altered by men or gods?
Frankly, i fail to find how homosexuals sexually abuse each other, unless you count anything different from the missionary position as sexual abuse. Next, you seem to think every single gay person is a pedo who stalk children the same way vampires stalk virigns and i see no evidence of this. But this is digression into a conversation that I'm sure neither of us really care about.
Whether this corruption is so terrible, i would agrue against. A weakness in man i believe it, yet any weakness can become a strength and advantage given enough thought, ingenuity and well timed action. The ancient Greek armies used those deep bonds to their advantage to the point where it was common belief that wars were determined by the love men who fought. Sappiness aside, they had front line defenders who, if they died, left behind no grieving wife and family. If they did live, they most likely got wives and started families purely through cultural obligations. What homosexuals lack, yet the Greeks had was fanaticism.
A lot of people are raised without culture, a gay man is no different than an average (for example) American man in this regard. All they lack is cultural fanaticism.
Likewise i fail to see Hel as the villian you make her out to be. My argument is one purely of interpretation, however.
Although in most myths Angurboda is
depicted as Hela's mother, in others Hela and the winter goddess Skadi are
depicted as Angurboda herself, simply taking different names in order to take
different roles associated with death. It is those myths i which give the concept that Hel is nothing but a force of death. As Skadi, she presides over the
earthly death-state of winter; as Hela, presiding over the death of
individuals rather than death in the universal sense, as of winter. Though it is true she will come riding on her ship of fingernails; ragnarok will be the death of many individuals, perhaps she is just come collecting?
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No.16945
>>16944
You'll have to forgive me, but you have to go to back to reddit. You can bond as much as you want with those soyboys and they'll gladly accept your gay, feminist, pedophile Asatru for minorities there.
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No.16949
>>16908
>Predestination
>Original sin
>No homosex
>also homosexual acts are abusive
Sounds like Calvinism
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No.16953
>>16949
>>Predestination
Every ancient Aryan belief system has understood fate is set. The knowing of fate isn't always easy or possible by your abilities or others but cause and effect is the only way things happen.
>>Original sin
Man and Woman through so called "freewill" did not choose an action but the world around them has pushed upon them, like a great predator does, especially by powers greater than ourselves who wish to destroy or bring us down. Do you not think Giants Dwarves or Elves cannot harm mortals?
>>No homosex
>>also homosexual acts are abusive
And you disagree that homosexuality is harmful to its participants scaring them for life even at just the biological and mental level? What better way do you know to fix this then casting those with the disease of cowardice or this than into a cesspool? Are you against human sacrifice in a hanging or burning as well?
>>Calvinism
Protestantism was the Germanic soul revolting against the jewish mind control. It wasn't perfect and did not do no harm but it had to happen, Luther's acts were only a rallying point not a starting point. The jewish controllers of Rome would have had the most pious in Germania be put in a convent unable to birth fine religious leaders of the volk. The jews instead would have the most meek and irresolute breed over those who would fight in the Nine Worlds and that wasn't by accident.
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No.16955
>>16922
I am not blind to the remnants of the pan-Aryan religion but perhaps I have not looked enough into it, so I will now upon your endorsement. This time could be right before the end or this could be the moment to ensure the survival of the folk again, both ways mean a fight must be done and only what can be agreed upon is how temporary the state now is, for it has no roots, so its tree will fall.
What I see now in the mulatto nation of India is only whispers in the dark, the Jainist reform was very completely implemented there. Even now the so called "higher" castes of a caste system implemented far after it could have any effectiveness try to whiten their skin but dirges were already sung.
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No.16956
>>16944
>>i fail to see how homosexuality is akin to any of Loki's crimes
Loki turns into a mare and has intercourse with Svatilfari and then Loki gives birth to Sleipnir. Traps are gay.
>>i fail to see Hel as the villian you make her out to be
Further Hel along with all the children of Loki wish to free their father. The only way Loki will be free is right before Ragnorak and it is the failings of man (not spare another) and woman (with mighty whoredom) is what causes Ragnorak (the fate of the gods).
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No.16959
>>16956
Loki changes his sex; something the mentally disordered could never do. I think it is folly to compare the acts of mortal men to the abilities of gods and say that they're exactly the same. What's more, traps can't get pregnant nor give birth; neither can gay men, so i still fail to see how Loki and homosexuality correlate. Next, i must ask, in what way is this story a crime of Loki's when it saved Freya from unwanted marriage, built Asgard's walls and gave Odhinn his legendary steed?
Was it because he hired too good a builder? Because he had to be threatened to cheat the deal the Aesir themselves got themselves into of their own volition? I get Loki is cowardly, prone to trickery and mischief, yet i fail to see how this particular myth paints him so "evil."
How exactly do men's failings cause Loki's children to free him? Can they not act on their own?
I begin to see parallels with your endtime interpretation and the book of revalation; namely that it is lack morality and ethics which kickstart the end times.
However even with the end of Ragnarok, not all the gods perish; new generations replace the old, Balder returns and mankind himself survives. Why be hung over the destructive rebirth of the worlds when everything degenerate and loathsome is likely to be purged and burned away?
>>16953
>calvinism is alright because it is Germanic in nature
I thought this board was diametrically opposed to all christianity?
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No.16960
>>16959
>>I thought this board was diametrically opposed to all christianity
Yes, Christianity like its other forms such as Jainism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism are instruments which have bled many Aryan nations and their effects I'd hope this board would be opposed to. But that is not to say anything so called "Christian" should be rejected just because in our days its only known as such. If a priest back in the day took each Aesir out of poem and replaced them with "Jesus Christ", does the poem lose all its worth?
<<example: Norwegian and Swedish Merseburg incantations versus the older version in Merseburg itself
Also about Loki you're right it can be seen that the Aesir allow him to get away with a lot of things, but his lack of punishment comes from his inability to be punished anytime someone tries to grasp onto him/her/xir, Loki. You may want to look at the language in Lokasenna more deeply to see how much the Aesir put up with him. Lokasenna takes place after Balder's death and even Odin tells his son Vidar to give Loki his seat at the table. I assume don't know the reason for this goes along with the Aesir not wanting to kill Loki because his death would mean a time during Ragnorak, perhaps also Odin doesn't want to do anything about it since the last time with that Vanir greedy Gullveig it didn't improve his position. As well it seems Loki has allied himself with most of the Giants whereas Thor quells rebellions of Giants, Thor couldn't quell them all at once which happens during Ragnorak. So this is why I think Loki is bound and not slain even though Thor says he'll send Loki to Hel because the sending of Loki to Hel could only mean the Ragnork as Loki leads the people of Hel with him against the Aesir and why Loki isn't allowed to leave freely.
Thor spake:
63. "Unmanly one, cease, or the mighty hammer,
Mjollnir, shall close thy mouth;
The slayer of Hrungnir shall send thee to Hel,
And down to the gate of death."
Loki spake:
64. "I have said to the gods and the sons of the gods,
The things that whetted my thoughts;
But before thee alone do I now go forth,
For thou fightest well, I ween.
65. Ale hast thou brewed, but, Ægir, now
Such feasts shalt thou make no more;
O'er all that thou hast which is here within
Shall play the flickering flames,
And thy back shall be burnt with fire."
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No.16961
>>16959
Whoops, wrong excerpt image.
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No.17001
>>16960
I would be cautious towards anything christian. I would outstretch a clawed paw towards it rather than naive trust. The Aryan lost much to jewish christianity. No more do we have Beowulf and the eddas and sagas, too, have the weeping matyr's taint, though small it be. The Aryan wanders listless and distracted. Let the soul be preserved but not the shambling body.
But to be more direct, perhaps the poem does not lose all its worth to mere replacement. Yet is a little poison better than the whole bottle?
One thing I have always enjoyed about Loki is his evolution through the myths, or rather the attitude of the Gods towards Loki which evolves( as they can profit more easily from his role as sagna hrœrir “mover of stories” in the beginning than towards the end of their story.). I cannot bring myself to, as most posters here di, shamelessly paint Loki with pointy horns and a pitchfork. All the stories and legends, eddas and sagas are far too nuanced for that (lest we, at surface value, rightfully call Odhinn the Oathbreaker.). Despite the ancestors' lack of science and technology, the non-classical peoples were in fact, as can be
seen by their religious theories and practices, much more perceptive about
their environment, both in worldly and other-worldly matters, than is often
believed. For me, the gods bind him for a very similar reason which you believe: to prolong Ragnarok and preserve the order they created. However, even when bound Loki's influence is not snuffed out: the earth trembles at his movements, his children work on his behalf and Ragnarok must happen. Loki is very much the god of fire; a valuable ally and a destructive force. Yet he replaces what he destroys whether it be Sif's hair or all the worlds. Whether he obliterates obstacles or ruins carefully laid plans.
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No.17006
>>17001
>We men are the monsters now
Is that from the book or from some film? From what I remember of Beowulf, there was a bunch of Christian stuff in there (the Flood, references to Cain, and so on)
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No.17014
>>17006
the cgi movie. otherwise pretty meh movie but that one quote was very good
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No.17035
>>17001
>>One thing I have always enjoyed about Loki
You don't have to fear Loki and his children if you cannot be deceived by them, then you will be able to see their works in others whom you dislike and can allow the folk of Loki to whittle down your enemies giving you the advantage and victory.
Though if you play with fire you might get burned.
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No.19740
You sound like such a christcuck, holy shit.
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