No.2431 [View All]
Reminder that true Asatru does not accept homosexuality. And if you call yourself an Asatruar and are okay with gays, then you're doing it wrong.
From Germania by Tacitus:
>The Assembly is competent also to hear criminal charges, especially those involving the risk of capital punishment. The mode of execution varies according to the offence. Traitors and deserters are hanged on trees; cowards, shirkers, and sodomites are pressed down under a wicker hurdle into the slimy mud of a bog. This distinction in the punishments is based on the idea that offenders against the state should be made a public example of, whereas deeds of shame should be buried out of men's sight.
Faggots are condemned by the gods and our people. When the happening happens and we establish our own small pagan communities to survive, make sure you set up near a bog so this filth can be executed like our ancestors would want.
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No.13449
>>13448
>>13448
That's a shame.
Then, I wonder if you could point me in the direction of other pagan paths, which might be more permissive of my degeneracy?
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No.13450
>>13449
Cast resurrect on
>>>/wicca/
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No.13457
>>13449
"Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!"
t. pompei graffiti
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No.13458
>>13117
>Christians were the numales of yesteryear
Franks were harsh fucks, arianistic goths too.
You cant just project what you dont like in people today on ancient adversaris.
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No.13467
>>13458
Numales? I don't think so. Going off of what they did historically it's much closer to modern Islam
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No.13471
>>13458
>>13467
I mean earlier on. Obviously once they had already subverted a culture, they used it as a hammer against its neighbors. If they encountered a stronger culture, they moved in and targeted the women and children of the most alpha pagans and the less scrupulous pagan men. Eventually they installed themselves in positions of influence and it was downhill from there.
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No.13576
>>12960
>>12960
U.S. whites have nordic/scandi/viking heritage/genetics in them - to a certain extent and territories - so stop the subvertive infighting between White aryan peoples (Current Year) and focus on the real enemy
>WW1: Rohm got the Iron Cross (First Class - while Hitler reached 2nd) awarded to him in 1916
>implying uselessness for the folk of his nation
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No.14108
>>2435
The answer is giant meat grinders
https://youtu.be/HA1dVYyXc8Y
We live in an industrial age now and our practices need to be updated. And we have an industrial scale faggot problem.
I'm don't think I've ever visited a bog, but the closest thing near me might be swamps and estuaries. They're quite beautiful and important to the local ecosystem. I wouldn't want to turn them into cursed/haunted areas by dumping millions of human corpses there.
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No.14109
>>14108
As someone who makes sausage for a living and is very acquainted with meat grinders. I wholly support this and volunteer as the executioner who pushes the switch.
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No.15826
Who knew this board had so many fags, feminists, and their apologists?
Every pre-modern society investigated for faggotry did the following when it came to faggotry:
1. It was "tolerated" under the assumption that the fags and/or dykes would know their place while still fulfilling obligations to society. A Greek man who wasn't a slave would be expected to get a wife and produce offspring. Even in Africa a Nigger woman would have been expected to get a male to have their children even if a dyke.
2. It was practiced by cloistered off men on boys and other societal inferiors. Which has more to do with letting off steam thanks to a lack of women (see the boy hunting in modern day Afghanistan) or contempt for them.
3. It was regulated with fags/dykes/trannies being expected to follows conduct for their roles. Whether it was not doing anal penetration, being required to dress a certain way, being barred from select occupations, etc.
>>12510
>t. White Knight
>>12517
>>12511
>WE HINDUS WUZ FAGS N SHEET
>Kama Sutra
lol, the Manusmriti proscribed cutting dyke's fingers off and flogging them. Men who muh diked men were condemned there as well. Fags, Dykes, all other LBGTUIOPDF freaks were treated as defective men or women at best even before Achmeds and Limeys invaded.
>>12512
Yes, don't let those Straight White Males condemn your cuck porn and tranny antics. ((Goy))!
>>12631
>found in Nature
Show us all the fag non-humans in the wild who do so for years on end without mating with the opposite sex when they have enough contact with it. Without being monosexual species.
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No.15827
>>15826
Also, pre-modern societies around the world prioritized carrying on your lineage. Especially for women, hence the worldwide suspicion towards childless single women pass peak fertility (see the Old Crone/Wicked Witch archetype). Saying that condemning or at least regulating actions that impeded it is some modern trend invented by Darwinism is garbage and transparent hedonist faggotry.
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No.15832
>>11899
Even the Greek being bumbandits is disputable. The fact they used it as a label is discredit and insult each other is very telling
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No.15840
>>15832
James Davidson and Bruce S. Thornton have the currently best research on Classical Greek sexuality.
Their evidence says that yes, males could fuck other males but only in select situations and aside from ritualized exception like the Sacred Band they still had to carry out their duty to their lineage (which had them finding a woman, getting children, and providing for them).
You need to remember that as Michael Foucault noted homosexuality in the meaning of an identity as opposed to an action is a product of modernity. Who you select for a partner goes in line with your position and role in society.
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No.15853
>>15840
Oh, that's pretty disappointing, not gonna lie
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No.15854
>>15840
Was it rare though?
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No.15855
>>15854
It's doubtful there were significantly more men who fucked men back in their day then now when accounting for population.
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No.15887
There's an easy solution to the faggot question.
Simply segregate all of the degenerates into their own communities - they will all die out in one generation, and we don't have to actually kill any of them.
Plus, cool things like AIDS will spread like wildfire within such shitholes (as they already do among the LGBTQASDFKJASLKFJSA community today), culling those indecent cunts from the herd prematurely. It would also probably be a good way to contain the spread of STDs (although TBH if you get an STD from being a promiscuous whore, you deserve it) and eventually (hopefully) lead to the extinction of such diseases from our own communities (the same cannot be said for such culturally enriching places such as the lands of the negerhorden).
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No.15896
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No.15897
>>15896
The Spartans were way more cucked than Athenians. Sparta is an example of where feminism leads you (defeat and fading away).
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No.15907
>>15897
Yes it certainly did. That however was a consequence of the Peloponnesian wars (wars that ended up ruining all the city states, not just Sparta) killing off a good chunk of the male population. Women (due to the more lax laws placed on them) stepped in to fill the vacuum and that's when Sparta started to fade, similar to Europe after the first and second world wars. There are things I liked about their system though, the idea that married couples should keep each other sexually satisfied and the 'prudishness' stand out in particular
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No.15913
The notion of homosexuality as a state of being instead of an action was largely alien before the 19th century. Before the rise of psychology, there wasn't homosexuality as shown today, there was buggery yes, an act negatively regarded even among Greeks. Psychologists claimed that homosexuality was hard-determined from birth since in the 1890's they figured that much was hard-determined. The LBGT lobby kept that notion since it helped them deflect criticism (if you can't change it, you can't be blamed for it). But reality is, if you went back in time and presented our understanding of 'being gay' to civilizations like the Greeks or Japanese, they would all scratch their heads.
The Sexual Revolution and feminism helped push the Born This Way narrative since it served to again, deflect criticism of their shilled lifestyles even after evidence of how dysfunctional they are. Scientifically the evidence isn't really there.
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No.16174
Reminder that Loki and many other Gods could shift gender
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No.16176
>>16174
Remainder, Loki assumedly molested his daughter Hel and that is why wherever Hel walks wildflowers grow and as everyone here knows wildflowers produce asexually. Also there's a story where Odin gave some of his metal to someone he presumed to be a hero, this nameless hero who could have had any woman he wanted instead fucked his sister out of cowardice its said or presumed faggotry, I guess and so in the next glorious slaughter of battle this hero was cut down and his body lost in the fray, so his comrades could not give him burial rights and also the sister fell through the ice, sometime latter. The namesless hero's comrades joined with the man who claimed the metal and the gifted hero became nameless.
Also know Loki still remains imprisoned by the Aesir but his children ever wish to free their father and doom the worlds, plunging everything back into the abyss again.
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No.16239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGCzh7KdaQ
I stumbled upon this obese faggot today. Obviously i disagree with him, but i'm interested in what you guys have to say.
So many people that need to be bogged, but so little bogs…
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No.16246
>>16239
Bog dodgers will get their meeting with Hel. Isber hasn't posted a video in a year so I bet he's moved onto something. One glaring thing he lacks if he wishes to purport himself as an emissary of the Aesir is a skill to survive, I doubt he can work wood or metal, unable to plan or feed himself properly. He may read what others have written but Heimdal has given him no gifts since his fate is becoming certain. He was probably raised poorly but as with the tree the malnourishment of early roots has the effect of stunting and deforming further growth.
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No.16255
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No.16894
>>16174
>he forgot Loki isnt a god
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No.16897
>>16894
Loki is a halfbreed his father a Jotun while his mother an Aesir. Loki and all his brothers are mongrels.
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No.16898
There isn't a single respectable society that accepted homosexuality unconditionally. Fags and dykes were only permitted to pursue select examples (see the Greek allowance of adolescent boys, not adult men) of the same sex and citizenship. Even then they were regulated for conduct (no anal penetration) with the roles and behaviors for the sexes maintained.
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No.16899
>>2431
I'm not here to cause too much fuss. But you clearly don't know latin nor have you cared to even read nothing other than flawed translations.
Tacitus stated that the Germans drowned in swamps those who were ignavos et imbelles et corpore infames, usually translated as 'slothful and unwarlike and infamous in body.' The latter expression has been taken by some to mean passive homosexuals, perhaps those above a certain age. However, this seems to be a superficial reading which comports nicely with the anti-homosexual prejudice of its adherents… To apply the phrase, 'those with infamous bodies' to homosexuals would not have made any sense to readers of the period in which Tacitus wrote.
I've read up, down and backwards and cannot find the word sodomite in the original latin.
Tacitus was not referring to the Germanic tribes having any reservations against homosexuality at all, but that the ancient Germans practiced eugenics and the survival of the best and brightest. However, it is unfortunate that the Edda texts have been edited and altered by Christian monks, and these Christians made Germanic Paganism around the time of the Edda texts appear to have Christian reservations against homosexuality. Look at how we have lost Beowulf to poor translation
Or perhaps you are all just christcucks trying to rebel against your parents and haven't bothered to try to actually be independent thinkers
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No.16900
>>16899
Tacitus also says virgin marriage is the norm for the interior of Germany. If gays were allowed or somehow just a part of society then marriage of gays must also be, further "gay marriage" in either its ancient form or in this day and age is never happy with one partner so then the "one wife apiece under marriage" or "virgin marriage" goes out the window. Maybe you'll say next these "women" were all M2F trannies, in typical LGPTQP wicca circles?
>>Or perhaps you are all just christcucks trying to rebel against your parents
Christianity says, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." While it also has Woman being made from the rib of a Man, in that way all men are part woman. Germanics divided their society by families and only a Man and Woman can build a family.
<<that incitement of Germanics practicing bestiality
>>"Look at how we have lost"
>>"we"
I wouldn't call you friend or a part of this Thing.
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No.16902
>Tacitus also says virgin marriage is the norm for the interior of Germany.
This is true
>If gays were allowed or somehow just a part of society then marriage of gays must also be,
I would think they'd be indifferent to it, and I'd believe they wouldn't allow marriage between gays. The ancients practiced eugeneics; even the gays would get over themselves and find a wife. But that's just a possible correlation with other cultures and perhaps isn't even a probability.
>further "gay marriage" in either its ancient form or in this day and age is never happy with one partner
Ok. I don't care what you think you know about other's emotional welbeing or how faithful/unfaithful they may be; either in its ancient form or in this day. However polygamy has been practiced by several cultures before and after conversion.
>Maybe you'll say next these "women" were all M2F trannies, in typical LGPTQP wicca circles?
I only argued that y'all constantly misquote a Roman to get over your own semetically tought insecurities. You dishonor Tacticus and yourself with the ignorace you joyfully flaunt.
Abense of evidence is not evidence of absense. Just because you misquote Tacitcus doesn't mean gayness was full on accepted. Neither does it mean that it was actively persecuted. If you're going to be against, at least be honest in doing so.
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No.16903
>>16902
Arguing on specifics and edge cases is pointless, action has to be taken. Nerthus calls for the refuse of the folk. To long has it been for that ritual to take place since its banning by jews, even hangings or burnings do not happen anymore by the same jewish philosophy. If the burden of proof enables a passive homosexual to walk free sometimes, so be it, as I would not allow wanton accusations to devour the folk but to the shildy they will mess up and just like Loki be found out and sentenced as was done to him, until Ragnarok when someone frees him and he frees the rest, now draugr.
>>O'er the sea from the north there sails a ship
>>With the people of Hel, at the helm stands Loki
>>After the wolf do wild men follow,
>>And with them the brother of Byleist goes.
It is in Midgard where the final failing begins, "And sisters' sons shall kinship stain". I hope you know your place because the cycle always happens the same, when we fail now, it will be for all time as it was in the last cycle, on and on again upon the wheel of fate.
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No.16904
>>16903
You have an interesting and confusing philosophy there.. How is homosexuality akin to Loki's murder of Balder, the crime you seem to be alluding to?
Like you, I'd hate to see people eat themselves up over accusations found wanting. However, when dealing with wanting accusations that determine the fate of others, arguing on specifics and edge cases is absolute necessity. If Nerthus calls for the refuse of the folk, it is she who should come collecting.
I believe homosexuality exists because we have lost in the last cycle. I believe it will also fade with this Kali Yuga. The event of Ragnarok is not an end; but the brutal start of a new cycle and new worlds.
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No.16908
>>16904
Loke leading to Balder's death wasn't the only crime which he was sentenced for. The events described in the Lokasenna take place after Balder's death. One of Loki's lies is to say Freyja has a paramour and one of the reasons why the Aesir took away his freedom.
The Aesir give favors unto those who act. Their powers are not infinite, all our lives are finite and so planning is needed. The Children of Loki wish to free their father whom will cause revolt in the giants subdued by Thor and thus start the Ragnorak.
>>we have lost in the last cycle.
I once thought in your way that actions were different in the cycles. Now I can only see the wheel running the same each time, as it will in the next cycle or did in the previous cycle. There is little evidence by Germanics to tell either way though. Does it have to do Lethra?
>>I believe homosexuality exists because
My take would be it comes from powers allied to Hel who created an act to corrupt man and woman. It is no accident that gays are also known to be sexually abusive to children they come into contact with, arguably doing permanent damage bending these youthful stems to never shoot up and grow straight. Even the gays who stay among adult gays a similar rot takes place where the unnatural insular groups of these gays are created, they may have a strong internal bond through buggery and sexual abuse to each other but they cannot stand the external and rely on the actual strong, this degenerate mark consumes leaving weakness to be exploited.
>>Kali Yuga
I would say take care in Aryan concepts coming from no longer Aryan peoples as on the way down much corruption took place. At least Europeans in the onslaught of revenge only lost their memories and not who their ancestors were.
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No.16922
>>16908
Kali Yuga comes from very ancient Aryan texts from before mass Dravidian corruption. It is reliable, and if you had read any of it, you would know its all coming true. Hinduism has much valuable material if you just stick to the older stuff and avoid anything from more modern times (and by more modern, I mean basically anything post 500 AD)
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No.16944
>>16908
You'll have to forgive me, i fail to see how homosexuality is akin to any of Loki's crimes or trickeries or boons. I cannot make a connection between homosexuality and Loki.
Next, i never figured an asatru would succumb to as depressing a concept as predestination. If i understand you right, each time a new starts, it is completely identical to the last; and all growth, self determination, teamwork, and change play no part. You seem to be very nihilistic in this regard. Tell me, if each turn is indeed the same and we are doomed to lived as the last cycle had, is there no hope for anything beyond vague prophecy? Are we doomed to be goose stepped by fate into events and situations that we will never have any ability to change or interact with? Do you really believe that the direction of the turn of the wheel can never be altered by men or gods?
Frankly, i fail to find how homosexuals sexually abuse each other, unless you count anything different from the missionary position as sexual abuse. Next, you seem to think every single gay person is a pedo who stalk children the same way vampires stalk virigns and i see no evidence of this. But this is digression into a conversation that I'm sure neither of us really care about.
Whether this corruption is so terrible, i would agrue against. A weakness in man i believe it, yet any weakness can become a strength and advantage given enough thought, ingenuity and well timed action. The ancient Greek armies used those deep bonds to their advantage to the point where it was common belief that wars were determined by the love men who fought. Sappiness aside, they had front line defenders who, if they died, left behind no grieving wife and family. If they did live, they most likely got wives and started families purely through cultural obligations. What homosexuals lack, yet the Greeks had was fanaticism.
A lot of people are raised without culture, a gay man is no different than an average (for example) American man in this regard. All they lack is cultural fanaticism.
Likewise i fail to see Hel as the villian you make her out to be. My argument is one purely of interpretation, however.
Although in most myths Angurboda is
depicted as Hela's mother, in others Hela and the winter goddess Skadi are
depicted as Angurboda herself, simply taking different names in order to take
different roles associated with death. It is those myths i which give the concept that Hel is nothing but a force of death. As Skadi, she presides over the
earthly death-state of winter; as Hela, presiding over the death of
individuals rather than death in the universal sense, as of winter. Though it is true she will come riding on her ship of fingernails; ragnarok will be the death of many individuals, perhaps she is just come collecting?
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No.16945
>>16944
You'll have to forgive me, but you have to go to back to reddit. You can bond as much as you want with those soyboys and they'll gladly accept your gay, feminist, pedophile Asatru for minorities there.
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No.16949
>>16908
>Predestination
>Original sin
>No homosex
>also homosexual acts are abusive
Sounds like Calvinism
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No.16953
>>16949
>>Predestination
Every ancient Aryan belief system has understood fate is set. The knowing of fate isn't always easy or possible by your abilities or others but cause and effect is the only way things happen.
>>Original sin
Man and Woman through so called "freewill" did not choose an action but the world around them has pushed upon them, like a great predator does, especially by powers greater than ourselves who wish to destroy or bring us down. Do you not think Giants Dwarves or Elves cannot harm mortals?
>>No homosex
>>also homosexual acts are abusive
And you disagree that homosexuality is harmful to its participants scaring them for life even at just the biological and mental level? What better way do you know to fix this then casting those with the disease of cowardice or this than into a cesspool? Are you against human sacrifice in a hanging or burning as well?
>>Calvinism
Protestantism was the Germanic soul revolting against the jewish mind control. It wasn't perfect and did not do no harm but it had to happen, Luther's acts were only a rallying point not a starting point. The jewish controllers of Rome would have had the most pious in Germania be put in a convent unable to birth fine religious leaders of the volk. The jews instead would have the most meek and irresolute breed over those who would fight in the Nine Worlds and that wasn't by accident.
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No.16955
>>16922
I am not blind to the remnants of the pan-Aryan religion but perhaps I have not looked enough into it, so I will now upon your endorsement. This time could be right before the end or this could be the moment to ensure the survival of the folk again, both ways mean a fight must be done and only what can be agreed upon is how temporary the state now is, for it has no roots, so its tree will fall.
What I see now in the mulatto nation of India is only whispers in the dark, the Jainist reform was very completely implemented there. Even now the so called "higher" castes of a caste system implemented far after it could have any effectiveness try to whiten their skin but dirges were already sung.
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No.16956
>>16944
>>i fail to see how homosexuality is akin to any of Loki's crimes
Loki turns into a mare and has intercourse with Svatilfari and then Loki gives birth to Sleipnir. Traps are gay.
>>i fail to see Hel as the villian you make her out to be
Further Hel along with all the children of Loki wish to free their father. The only way Loki will be free is right before Ragnorak and it is the failings of man (not spare another) and woman (with mighty whoredom) is what causes Ragnorak (the fate of the gods).
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No.16959
>>16956
Loki changes his sex; something the mentally disordered could never do. I think it is folly to compare the acts of mortal men to the abilities of gods and say that they're exactly the same. What's more, traps can't get pregnant nor give birth; neither can gay men, so i still fail to see how Loki and homosexuality correlate. Next, i must ask, in what way is this story a crime of Loki's when it saved Freya from unwanted marriage, built Asgard's walls and gave Odhinn his legendary steed?
Was it because he hired too good a builder? Because he had to be threatened to cheat the deal the Aesir themselves got themselves into of their own volition? I get Loki is cowardly, prone to trickery and mischief, yet i fail to see how this particular myth paints him so "evil."
How exactly do men's failings cause Loki's children to free him? Can they not act on their own?
I begin to see parallels with your endtime interpretation and the book of revalation; namely that it is lack morality and ethics which kickstart the end times.
However even with the end of Ragnarok, not all the gods perish; new generations replace the old, Balder returns and mankind himself survives. Why be hung over the destructive rebirth of the worlds when everything degenerate and loathsome is likely to be purged and burned away?
>>16953
>calvinism is alright because it is Germanic in nature
I thought this board was diametrically opposed to all christianity?
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No.16960
>>16959
>>I thought this board was diametrically opposed to all christianity
Yes, Christianity like its other forms such as Jainism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism are instruments which have bled many Aryan nations and their effects I'd hope this board would be opposed to. But that is not to say anything so called "Christian" should be rejected just because in our days its only known as such. If a priest back in the day took each Aesir out of poem and replaced them with "Jesus Christ", does the poem lose all its worth?
<<example: Norwegian and Swedish Merseburg incantations versus the older version in Merseburg itself
Also about Loki you're right it can be seen that the Aesir allow him to get away with a lot of things, but his lack of punishment comes from his inability to be punished anytime someone tries to grasp onto him/her/xir, Loki. You may want to look at the language in Lokasenna more deeply to see how much the Aesir put up with him. Lokasenna takes place after Balder's death and even Odin tells his son Vidar to give Loki his seat at the table. I assume don't know the reason for this goes along with the Aesir not wanting to kill Loki because his death would mean a time during Ragnorak, perhaps also Odin doesn't want to do anything about it since the last time with that Vanir greedy Gullveig it didn't improve his position. As well it seems Loki has allied himself with most of the Giants whereas Thor quells rebellions of Giants, Thor couldn't quell them all at once which happens during Ragnorak. So this is why I think Loki is bound and not slain even though Thor says he'll send Loki to Hel because the sending of Loki to Hel could only mean the Ragnork as Loki leads the people of Hel with him against the Aesir and why Loki isn't allowed to leave freely.
Thor spake:
63. "Unmanly one, cease, or the mighty hammer,
Mjollnir, shall close thy mouth;
The slayer of Hrungnir shall send thee to Hel,
And down to the gate of death."
Loki spake:
64. "I have said to the gods and the sons of the gods,
The things that whetted my thoughts;
But before thee alone do I now go forth,
For thou fightest well, I ween.
65. Ale hast thou brewed, but, Ægir, now
Such feasts shalt thou make no more;
O'er all that thou hast which is here within
Shall play the flickering flames,
And thy back shall be burnt with fire."
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No.16961
>>16959
Whoops, wrong excerpt image.
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No.17001
>>16960
I would be cautious towards anything christian. I would outstretch a clawed paw towards it rather than naive trust. The Aryan lost much to jewish christianity. No more do we have Beowulf and the eddas and sagas, too, have the weeping matyr's taint, though small it be. The Aryan wanders listless and distracted. Let the soul be preserved but not the shambling body.
But to be more direct, perhaps the poem does not lose all its worth to mere replacement. Yet is a little poison better than the whole bottle?
One thing I have always enjoyed about Loki is his evolution through the myths, or rather the attitude of the Gods towards Loki which evolves( as they can profit more easily from his role as sagna hrœrir “mover of stories” in the beginning than towards the end of their story.). I cannot bring myself to, as most posters here di, shamelessly paint Loki with pointy horns and a pitchfork. All the stories and legends, eddas and sagas are far too nuanced for that (lest we, at surface value, rightfully call Odhinn the Oathbreaker.). Despite the ancestors' lack of science and technology, the non-classical peoples were in fact, as can be
seen by their religious theories and practices, much more perceptive about
their environment, both in worldly and other-worldly matters, than is often
believed. For me, the gods bind him for a very similar reason which you believe: to prolong Ragnarok and preserve the order they created. However, even when bound Loki's influence is not snuffed out: the earth trembles at his movements, his children work on his behalf and Ragnarok must happen. Loki is very much the god of fire; a valuable ally and a destructive force. Yet he replaces what he destroys whether it be Sif's hair or all the worlds. Whether he obliterates obstacles or ruins carefully laid plans.
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No.17006
>>17001
>We men are the monsters now
Is that from the book or from some film? From what I remember of Beowulf, there was a bunch of Christian stuff in there (the Flood, references to Cain, and so on)
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No.17014
>>17006
the cgi movie. otherwise pretty meh movie but that one quote was very good
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No.17035
>>17001
>>One thing I have always enjoyed about Loki
You don't have to fear Loki and his children if you cannot be deceived by them, then you will be able to see their works in others whom you dislike and can allow the folk of Loki to whittle down your enemies giving you the advantage and victory.
Though if you play with fire you might get burned.
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No.19740
You sound like such a christcuck, holy shit.
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