No.18216
Historically, asatru pagans were henotheists who thought the Christian God was legit and powerful, just like their other gods, they just didn't follow him.
First, you should accept the possibility of the Christian God as probable and legitimate. Second if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good pagan should then you should respect and pay homage to the Christian religion.
If you have hatred for Christ and his teachings, then you're more like a modernist atheist/nihilist, not a traditionalist or pagan…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism
Peace
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No.18218
>>18216
>>I read a bunch of philo-Semites who said this
>>accept this or your ways aren't valid
Oh and how do you know, because you read Paul the Deacon? Those Christian authors whenever they speak of our ways get the most basics of it wrong, "Donar's Oak" or "Odin married Freyja", either they purposefully use fraudulent examples to confuse or don't understand the most basic aspects and are forced to write them wrong. Historically the only henotheists you speak of existed as the commoner in once our lands who now had to pay homage to a Christian King and Church when Christianity was to young in the territory to demand complete observance to it, it had to wait a few generations and slowly work itself in, readying for the real power grab. You have to remember the conversion vows then weren't just in words or dunking but you also had to hand over all pagan belongings to be burned or melted down. It became a competition of infighting among the folk to find out the pagan, something happening to not be Christian in time became against Christians once you had the power to make that a reality. Always by trickery does this way gain a footing, that is why the Trickster is considered our primary enemy and not some gnarly monster.
>>If you have hatred for Christ
A jewish rabbi the jews told the gentiles that only he can be praised, thus having them knocking down as many idols as they could get away with. I have indifference to Jesus just like Muhammad or Gautama, I don't worship other men.
>>If you list Hinduism as henotheist
Already by the time of the writing of the Veda the Aryan there was already suffering a philosophy that he couldn't only live among his own and had to invite the दासा in, its ironic over 3000 years after Indra proclaimed them शत्रुतापूर्ण दासा बेकार the beyond mulatto devotee offspring, there now, call themselves the same name, "Dasa", "one who has surrendered to God".
>>If you list Zoroastrianism as henotheist
A multiculturalism ideology used by Babylon against Persia. Trying to wipe away the Aryan's strength from Persia, it did a good job and made them perfectly open for Arab immigration and much of the racial gifts have now been lost forever from that land, just like in India.
>>If you list Hellenism as henotheist
An ideology of multiculturalism to bring different peoples together, the Aryan there became convinced that he cannot live alone in his own lands and was obliged to bring in others and this is what the jews used with their "θεός" to deconstruct anything not derived from judaism in the territory of the Roman Empire and beyond.
>>"Peace"
You should always mean what you say, if you mean it, or the listener might think you're trying to get them to lower their defenses for an unsuspecting attack. Like how Muslims proclaim themselves to be a religion of peace as they slay our folk. So I say to you, coexistence, conflict, combat.
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No.18220
>>18216
Yahweh is indeed a very real entity. Traces of his evil can be seen all over the world.
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No.18223
>>18218
Coping this hard
Your ancestors would be ashamed
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No.18225
Historically, christians were lamp users who had no thoughts about electricity and its legit power.
First, you should accept the possibility of electricity as probable and legitimate. Second if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good christian should then you should stop using electricity.
If you use electricity or vending machines, then you're more like a modern person, not a traditionalist or christian…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vending_machine
Doritos
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No.18227
>>18225
>Second if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good christian should then you should stop using electricity.
Ancestor veneration is not part of Christianity. So we aren't beholden to this practice.
>electricity
the leading electricity scientists were christians, Maxwell for example.
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No.18228
>>18220
There is no evil in God.
Allah is not Yahweh.
What evil people do in "his name" is their own problem.
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No.18242
>>18228
>>thinks the religious system the jews gave is trustworthy
Even if true, whenever either followers of those deities move against the jews, other adherents of the Abrahamic fellowship move against them. Of course even though Christians/Muslims defend the lives of jews they still get blamed for hating and commanded to pay reparations to the suffering jews. Such a system could go on easily until 6,000 anno mundi with the jews no longer just chosen according to their books but masters of all the lands, the White race mixing itself under the auspices of a smiling Christ or through the childhood trauma of a grinning Mohamed.
>>18227
>>leading electricity scientists were christians
Go explain to the Latin American or African its just a matter of faith which maintains their predicament and not our racial gifts. Further it doesn't matter what Whites invent if they allow jews to know and spread such knowledge to all our enemies, a Christian could have invented the cannon but it still was a cannon which brought down the walls of Constantinople. I'm sure even the Chinese have it in their textbooks that it was truly one of their own who invented Electricity long ago and gweilo stole all their secrets. None of our racial enemies care about what led us to invention, only that they can get the invention.
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No.18244
>>18227
>the leading electricity scientists were christians, Maxwell for example
Everyone knows that Allah invented Quantum Science and you cannot be a theoretical physicist in today's world without chopping your dick in half.
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No.18250
>>18216
Historically, asatru pagans were henotheists who thought the Zoroastrian God was legit and powerful, just like their other gods, they just didn't follow him.
First, you should accept the possibility of Buddhism as probable and legitimate. Second if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good pagan should then you should respect and pay homage to Hinduism.
If you have hatred for Mohamed and his teachings, then you're more like a modernist atheist/nihilist, not a traditionalist or pagan…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_monotheism
Oy vey
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No.18251
>>18228
Doesnt the bible literally state that your god creates good AND evil, and that all evil is his doing as punishment to mankind?
so youre saying that god is to blame for niggers and pedophiles? thanks god.
I will stick to paganism and Zoroastrianism , where there is a very clear line between good and evil, destruction and creation.
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No.18261
>>18216
I completely accept the Holy Trinity.
Jesus/The Son is clearly Freyr.
YHWH/The Father is clearly Donar.
The Holy Ghost/Spirit is clearly Wotan.
Satan/Lucifer is Loki.
The different angels and saints are other Gods or servants of the God.
All the other Mythological stuff from the Bible is (literally) badly understood Indo-European, Babylonian and Egyptian mythology, so we can interpret that Germanically as well.
Tada, by interpreting Christianity Germanically, I do no betray my ancestors.
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No.18265
>>18261
incorrect
Connecting Donar with Yahweh is understandable given Yahwehs origins as a thunder-deity but the more important aspect is the archetypal role as creator and Father of the Heavens. Yahweh was also a war-god, and the ancient Hebrews believed that he traveled with them in battle, commanding a host of angels. This is pretty much identical to what Germanic tribes believed regarding Odin and his einherjar. Odin is very clearly the Sky-Father, Tiwaz, Zeus or Deus in terms of title, although how Tiwaz became a separate and lesser deity than he previously was is a matter of debate. But the fact that Odin is called the "All-Father" should really make this easier.
Donar is sometimes called the "Savior of Man" or "Protector of Man" in the sagas and in myths. Whether this is Christian influence doesnt matter; the fact the Christians identified Donar with a title similar to Christ means they must have seen some similarities between his cult and that of Jesus. Further evidence of this, that is closer to older pagan myth and makes it more believable that the association with Christ wasn't just nonsense, is that Thor is associated with resurrection, consecration, exorcism, slaying demons and warding power, as his symbols, the swastika and the hammer, were thought to chase away trolls and demons. Donar is the Son, both literally (in terms of being the Son of Odin) and comparatively. Donar is also the more peaceful of the two Gods, which is also is true of Christ compared to the Father.
Freyr is a little harder to fit into this trinity, and makes the distinctions between Germanic paganism and christianity a little more clear. Honestly closest fit to the Holy spirit that I can think of is Heimdall, or maybe Mimir, but neither of those really fit.
I've actually been reading the Bible lately just because of nagging from christcuck friends, I dont really buy the Nordic Hebrews bullshit but I will say there are some things that are very odd; the sacrificial rituals described in Leviticus for example describe sprinkling blood around the altar 7 times, identical to the rites described at Uppsala and by Tacitus. Nordics also appeared to have practiced a sort of pre-christian baptism; children were usually named after being sprinkled with water as a kind of initiation ritual when they were 9 days old; which explains how baptism changed from full-immersion to sprinkling as it spread to Germanic lands. Then theres also the fact Odin is the Hanged God, who was appeased by hanging and spearing to death his sacrificial victims in times of war, and the description of his primordial suffering is very similar to the suffering of Christ. All of this seems too coincidental and like evidence of Christian contamination, but can be backed up by archeological evidence and older accounts from the Romans that seem to confirm this. Im not really sure what to make of this honestly.
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No.18272
>>18242
>if Christianity is so good why are dumb niggers still dumb?
Why do you keep repeating this fallacy? Religion is not meant to improve engineering or trade routes…Religion is primarily meant to purify man's will and save his soul. And it only works insofar as man applies it properly.
If any civilization actually abided by Christ's principles it would be an amazing thing to witness, whether they were 80IQ or 140IQ.
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No.18276
>>18265
When we talk about the God of the Bible, we actually talk about Yahweh, Adonai, Baal, Elohim, which are titles and names for different Caanite Gods which got merged. So, it's a bit tricky to know which Gods the Bible talk about at a time.
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No.18277
>>18272
>Religion is primarily meant to purify man's will and save his soul.
Which results in works and higher insight.
Which results in engineering and trade routs.
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No.18287
>>18272
>>purify man's will and save his soul
So this is accomplished by deconstructing all his idols? No Gods, no Kings, no Races, no Money and no differences in faith. Save? Like the countless generations of my folk before even the Rabbi Yeshua's birth who weren't "saved", by your own understanding doomed into Gehenna forever because they weren't jewish.
>>applies it properly
Like how Christians always keep jews around? Why keep this people of another belief system around you? Why has there never been a Christian society without any jews somewhere within the power structure?
>>If any civilization actually abided by Christ's principles it would be an amazing thing to witness
I think the Byzantines would say they did and yet it was jews who opened the doors to the city, such an amazing thing to witness how a people can cuck themselves to jews so wholly that during a battle for their very survival somehow a people not of the Christian faith are able to betray the Christians from within their own battle lines. I'm amazed to think that portion of the Christian cycle will be happening again, and the defeated Christians walking away saying "damn jews" if that and their own grandchildren will again allow the jews into their cities after hearing about how oppressive their forefathers were to jews. Jews are a small tribe of physically inferior individuals who don't even wear crucifixes, where has been the theological holdup for all these centuries?
I could laugh at the piteousness more if it wasn't my own people who have been the willing sacrificial lambs to the jews.
ᚠᚱᛇ ᚹᛖᚱᚾᛞᚨ ᚦᚨ
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No.18354
>>18216
What is your source that proves they thought that way?
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No.18365
>>18354
>s-source…pp-p-p—p-please???
refute it.
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No.18366
>>18365
arguments rely on sources you braindead fucking nigger , DBZ memes dont make you look cool or clever
>Historically, asatru pagans
this is your first mistake that betrays youre a fucking idiot with no clue what youre even talking about, using the terms "historical" and "asatru" in the same sentence
>who thought the Christian God was legit and powerful
they believed he existed; they mocked his obvious lack of power by the fact he had to compensate by claiming omnipotence. any retard can see that your Jew god is NOT omnipotent, this doesnt even need to be refuted.
> if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good pagan should then you should respect and pay homage to the Christian religion.
in 200 years cuckoldry and islam will be considered parts of white history and culture. should my children pay homage to me by jacking off to niggers and making political arguments in defense of Islam? your idea of "ancestral reverence" is as perverted and retarded as your Jewish religion. one pays homage to their ancestors through libations, sacrifices and remembering their lives and deaths; not by submitting yourself to every single retarded idea that they ever conjured up. ancestors were men just like us, and they made mistakes just as men do. do you follow the financial advice of your boomer grandparents who have literally no money saved for you when they kick the bucket? No, you do not. Why would I take spiritual advice from the same people?
>If you have hatred for Christ and his teachings, then you're more like a modernist atheist/nihilist, not a traditionalist or pagan…
<if u dont belieb my particular cult, youre an atheist!
I have no hatred for Christ or his teachings, he seemed like a fair man. What I despise are cuckolded faggots like you that think that because Jesus was a good arguer, that means we all have to submit before a Jewish religion. And make no mistake; your religion is at its very core, Jewish. If it was really as "Aryan" as you faggots proclaim, you would respect the ways of the Ancient Aryans and profess that Babylon and Ancient Greece were more pious and righteous that the Jews ever were, and in fact most of the ideas that you hold closest to Christianity (Stoicism, the Cult of the Angels and Archangels, the idea of Good and Evil and the Fall of Man) come directly from these ancient pagan cultures, and were unfound in your depraved desert cult of kikes, who stole these ideas from their neighbors and then stamped it with their trademark.
Somehow, all this talk of "respecting your Christian ancestors", and yet I never see you queers ever respecting your pagan ancestors. You probably dont even revere your Christian ones, since ancestral reverence and worship is strictly forbidden in your Jewish religion (cant have the goys being proud of themselves!). You have nothing but vile words and lies to speak of the ancients, calling them cum-drinkers, savages or fags, insults that a father should slap his son for, and a grandfather should flay his descendant for. What will your pagan ancestors think of you, when you meet them in Hell, after all the insults you have made of them in the name of an imageboard? your "ancestral reverence" is a hollow lie, and betrays that you are simply trying to use a poorly understood aspect of the pagan religion, to twist it and try to turn it against us. Well you aint no fucking St. Patrick with the trinity knot, and I'm no sub50 IQ Briton whos convinced by a drunkard with a leaf to abandon his ancestors and Gods for a kike. You will have to try harder, kike-lover.
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No.18371
>>18365
>>you gotta praise Mohamed
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No.18395
Pagans ARE henotheists, and there's nothing you neo-pagan revisionists can do about it lmao
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No.18397
>>18395
>>you weaklings are subject to how I describe you
Good luck holding onto your authority.
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No.18398
>>18395
No, pagans CAN be henotheists and CAN be polytheists
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No.18400
>>18395
>>Mormonism is the only valid belief system.
>>>/lds/
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No.18423
>>18216
Heliand best Good Book.
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No.18462
>>18216
>>you are henotheists, gentile
>>while Christians literally let jews live in their cities
>and they have a rich history of doing so for millennia according to their own history
So I guess you are the true henotheists in accepting a people within your walls that expressly pertain that Jesus wasn't the messiah and "so Christians must accept the possibility that the jews are right". Otherwise why keep them around?
Basically I could word replace "Christ" in your post with "Jew" and it'd have a historical basis, perhaps not in rhetoric but definitely in action but I'll let you do that exercise.
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No.18466
>>18462
We would let them live in our cities but they wouldn't be allowed to teach or hold positions of power, of course no usury and their public synagogues would be closed.
But yes, they could live and pass through a Christian city without being assaulted.
Why do you ask?
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No.18467
>>18466
>>they wouldn't be allowed to teach or hold positions of power
You can give me your tired rhetoric but in all the power structures of the Mid-ages there was a jew somewhere scheming. Its why the townspeople became so anti-Semitic and would rebel, but always the Deus Vult Knights on account of their monarch would put down such revolts. Martin Luther himself was confronted by this and had to back off instead sided with more moderate Lords instead of the totally anti-Semitic peasants because of the military's fragile reigns in order to keep Protestantism alive.
>>no usury
Only in the small gap of time between when the jews are expelled from a country and before finding their way back into it. Also remember (((they))) always get revenge on those who expelled them and Christians still don't get that and allow them in.
>>public synagogues would be closed
It was Christians who allowed them to open such buildings in their cities in the first place. Christians are so needy to go after anything "pagan" but you allow a people who deny your belief and exercise their own beliefs in all your cities throughout the history of your faith. Implicit henotheism there.
>>they could live and pass through a Christian city
Yeah and often they could get a White child here or there to amuse themselves with but if the townspeople rebel trying to remove this parasite, then the Deus Vult knights come in. Though there was this one knight who knowingly sided with the anti-Semitic peasants even though he knew they'd all be killed. Did Luther stand with Geyer upon their meeting in 1523? No, he literally got stabbed in the back by fellow Protestants for believing in the cause.
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No.18871
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No.18948
>>18871
>When Jesus said El he actually didn't mean El but rather God-who-is-not-El-but-has-the-same-name!
>We know this because, people preferred not to use El when not referring to El so as not to cause confusion
>Also because nobody worshiped El anymore
Why not just use a less confusing term? That'd be like if I said
"ZOROASTER, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!" but really I actually mean God, I just felt like saying something else.
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No.19322
The God of the Jews is a fanatically intolerant demon who favors only the Jewish people. It will get no respect and honor from me. Semitic intolerance replaced the tolerance of the gods of other people in the ancient world and replaced it with the God of the Jews
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