No.16675
is taking steroids degenerate or virtuous? they're legal in my country btw.
I wanna get jacked, like a viking! Yay or nay?
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No.16676
>>16675
You do know steroid use severely reduces sperm count, do you?
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No.16677
>>16676
i could take hcg which counters all that and maintains testicular function and fertility
most guys take hcg now
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No.16681
I'm against it.
You can get big natty with time and sacrifice, so why disrupt your hormones - endangering your mind and long term health - to get big now.
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No.16682
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>>16675
Going natural is way more satisfying, even crossfitters can get huge from roiding out.
If you're dead set on on juicing, at least consult someone who knows his shit and make sure you don't sterilize yourself.
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No.16685
There are natural ways to raise your T and get big fast. I'm not entirely against steroids but I think that sacrificing a bit of time and effort for something makes it more valuable, because when you do get jacked, you will be able to tell yourself that you did it naturally which makes you even more proud and respectful of your body.
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No.16690
>>16682
do you think Jon Pall Sigmarsson was natty? :^)
>>16685
>because when you do get jacked, you will be able to tell yourself that you did it naturally which makes you even more proud and respectful of your body.
ya that's one thing that bothers me, steroids are so effective it would feel like cheating to me. I mean there are studies that show you can gain like 15lbs of muscle even without lifting/exercising. feels cheap
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No.16691
>>16675
>like a viking!
Hurrr durr muh vikangz
We don't need LARPers like you, fuck off
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No.16692
>>16690
>you think jon pall sigmarsson was natty?
Pure unattenuated Skyr my friend
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No.16696
>>16691
We actually do, go be depressed somewhere else
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No.16705
>>16696
Care to fucking explain? We're restoring the ancient faith of our ancestors, not playing fucking dressup and pretending to be Vikings you gay nigger
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No.16706
>>16705
>Care to fucking explain?
being good looking, strong and physically admirable are all positives. No need to justify these things. No need to justify beauty or excellence. Go back in your basement little goblin.
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No.16707
>>16681
is this attainable natty? ive been lifting for a few years and not even close to it
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No.16714
>>16707
Short answer: no.
Check his "upper rack" as I like to call it. Delts, pecs, and traps are thick and juicy. At that low of a body fat (visible, raised abs) most of the body should look relatively flat and dry. The reason that steroid users look so huge is that males have a lot of androgen receptors in the shoulders and chest to distinguish us from females at long distances. Those areas will balloon when someone starts taking steroids. Also, as a side note, he's got a bit of gyno.
It helps that he has damn fine genetics and an overall larger frame. But the fact of the matter is, just lift big, eat big and you'll get some good size. The trade-off is either lean,flat and smaller or big, juicey, and a little chubby.
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No.16717
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just saw this and I'm gonna stay natty.
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No.16722
>>16706
being good looking, strong and physically admirable are all positives.
I wasn't talking about that you tard, of course we should strive for those qualities. What I'm talking about the 'hurf durf imam be like Ragnar from Vikings' attitude
>Go back in your basement little goblin.
Nice projection nigger
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No.16728
>>16675
>is taking steroids degenerate
No, but you probably shouldn't do it.
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