No.1095 [View All]
Does Asatru cover Slavic beliefs?
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No.5620
No since Slavic paganism has a different pantheon of God's than Nordic paganism
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No.5621
>>1096
And just why can't we talk about Slavic Paganism?
The two beliefs are similar. Are slavs "not white"?
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No.5622
>>5621
Here's a quote from the post you're replying to: "But discussion of it is welcome on this board"
Where did you get the impression that it isn't allowed from?
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No.5623
>>5622
I'm sorry. I misread it. I though it said "But discussion of it isn't welcome on this board". I'm tense right now because there was an anti-slavic thread on half-chan /pol/.
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No.5624
>>5623
I can understand, people love to talk shit about slavs.
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No.5626
>>5624
it's nothing but deep divisons as a result of slavs being under the yoke of marxism for almost a century. don't take it personally. it's exactly the same as the celtic-germanic divide. just butthurt that needs to be left behind, while trying hard to mend the damage that has been caused by history's events.
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No.5627
>>5626
Slav here, I definitely agree. I think that we should try Russia's idea of Pan-Slavisim
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No.5628
>>5627
im as hostile to pan slavism as i am to pan germanicism and pan celtism. why? because they are not the same. sure, there is a long gone common ethnic ancestry, but if you want to see what really happens, look no further than Yugoslavia.
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No.5629
Anyway, there's a great black metal band called Drudkh that deals with Slavic Folklore.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Drudkh/9344
Also a recourse regarding Ancient Slavs: http://www.ancientmilitary.com/ancient-slavs.htm
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No.5636
There is no such thing as "slavs". History doesn't mention them before the byzantine empire. This is because the people that founded Kievan Rus (named after the Rus tribe) were literally northern germanic vikings. Before that, the eastern germanics settling in the area were literally using runes and had the same pantheon as the other germanic peoples throughout the continent.
"Slav" was the church term for any non-christian peoples living outside the boundaries of the orthodox byzantine empire.
There never were any "slavs", and there never will be.
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No.5639
>>5636
But you can see the genetic differences between Slavs, Germanics, and other races of Europe.
They look different.
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No.5640
>>5639
Don't feed him. He's either a troll or incredibly retarded.
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No.5642
>>5639
These optical "genetic differences" are caused by the various baltid influences of the eastern baltic race, which a majority of russians stem from. There's also a considerable amount of asian blood to be found due to the centuries-long mongol occupation of Russia.
There is no "slavic race" as such however, this is delusional propaganda. The word "slav" didn't come into regular use until the 15th century or so.
>>5640
Nice projection and ad hominem spergery in lieu of any genuine coherent counter-argument there, pan-slavist faggot.
You're either a troll or incredibly retarded.
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No.5643
>>5639
I would also point out, of course, that strictly speaking "germanic" isn't a race either.
If some nigger speaks a western germanic language such as english, he's still a nigger.
Likewise, if someone of nordic extraction with a cultural germanic background speaks russian, he will stay nordic (ie germanic) in nature nonetheless.
This is how the "slavification" of various eastern germanic tribes through the forced use of eastern orthodox church slavonic/glagolitic during the middle ages is being misinterpreted and deliberately misrepresented nowadays to sow animosities between europeans who would otherwise be united.
Read this book here, it's a very good introduction into the racial elements of the greater white race (note the absence of "slavs" in the contents of this book):
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/reeh/
… It also disproves any kind of delusional fictional notions of a "slavic race" peddled by pan-slavist supremacists who use this argumentation to fight the nordic race.
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No.5647
>>5642
Holy shit, you are actually serious?
Are you also denying the existance of Swabians, Hessians and Saxons, simply because they are also Germanic and therefore "don't real"?
It's fine you also consider the genetics, that is absolutely necessary, but COMPLETELY disregarding linguistics and culture is simply retarded. Especially concerning their long term effect on partner choice.
>pan-slavist faggot.
lol
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No.5648
>It's fine you also consider the genetics, that is absolutely necessary, but COMPLETELY disregarding linguistics and culture is simply retarded.
Except i'm not doing this anywhere. Nice strawman/try though.
I'm just pointing out the fact that from a historical POV, "slavic" people are a relatively modern invention. The notion of a "slavic" people itself as such didn't really take off up until 200-300 years or so ago either, when the poles started pushing westward to un-germanize eastern germanic areas on the outer edges of Silesia and so on.
I know this because many of my own relatives lived there until 1945, when the final result of pan-slavist imperialist anti-germanic amibitions resulted in the expulsion and deaths of tens of millions of germans.
If you actually support this kind of faggotry, you should consider killing yourself.
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No.5651
>>5648
>If you actually support this kind of faggotry, you should consider killing yourself.
Haha, says the hooked nose kike trying to say that my race doesn't exist.
I'm now declaring that "Norse" people don't exist because there are similarities between Scandinavians and Germans. Why? Well, cause there's similarities between Balts and Poles, and obviously there's no Slavic race, so that must mean there's no Norse race.
Here's a map that proves that Scandinavians and Brits don't exist
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No.5653
>>5651
>capital of Romania isn't Rome
>capital of Severoslavia isn't Kiev
step it up nigger
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No.5654
>>5651
Tribe does not equal race, retard.
Culture/Religion does not equal race either.
Norse is a tribe like Saxon is (also a culture) but their race is Germanic therefore you are a retard.
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No.5655
>>5653
>>5654
I'm parodying the retard who said that slavs aren't real. Of course Norse and Brits are real
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No.5945
>>5654
Germanic is not a race, it's a cultural designation. "White" is a race, and if you want to describe phenotypical sub-races then that's cool, but be aware that several different phenotypes appear commonly within Germanic nations. English, Dutch, German, Swedish and Icelandic people are all white, all Germanic, all have slightly different typical "looks" (subracial elements, if you like) to them,
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No.10618
>>5621
>The two beliefs are similar.
Considering the diffusion of our ancestors from a central point, Urheimat.
I think with enough comparative studies of our old mythologies, we will be able to find out where they all agree, and construct our common proto-religion.
The Golden Bough and Man and his symbols are two good places to start.
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No.10624
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No.11675
The Rus were a Norse people and culture whose influence stretched from the Baltic to the far reaches of the Dnieper. Both modern neopagan religions of Rodnovery and Asatru are only approximations of what people think was being worshipped. They were the same.
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No.11679
>>5651
>Romania
>doesn't include literal Romania
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No.11682
>>5945
>"White" is a race
If we allow mixbreeding between "white" nations we'll still lose ethnic and cultural heritage.
Less than now, but still.
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No.11719
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No.11723
>>11682
So where would we place Americans in asatru?
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No.11724
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No.11745
>>5627
No. The Slavic tribes separated into three long ago. There are genetic differences between West Slavs (Polacks) East Slavs (Rusi) and Southern Baltic "Slavs" (they are no longer Slavic after being mixed Turk shitskin blood). Though west and East Slavs are the most closely genetically related ethnicities in the Slavic sub-race, they should still remain seperate for culture and the small genetic differences.
Pan-White Nationalism and any other form of pan-Europeanism is disgusting and shit. Leave that crap in America. It's a disgusting form of internationalism which is unfortunately accepted too much on the far right.
And ignoring all that, pan-slavism would still never happen. Polacks absolutely hate Russians and Ukrainians (Rusi) and view us as oppressors for the Soviet years, Balkans hate each other, not even going into their relations with other sub-Slavic groups. Everybody hates Ukrainians, and Ukrainians hate everybody. It's not going to happen.
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No.11747
>>11745
>Pan-White Nationalism and any other form of pan-Europeanism is disgusting and shit
We have it because our little differences suddenly seem less important when you're confronted with true "diversity."
If you let some nigger refugee beat up another white man because he's a Lithuanian and you're Belorussian, then you are scum.
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No.11752
>>11723
Nowhere, being an American entails inherent values that are nigh completely cut off from any pagan roots.
The nation was christian when founded, and bourgeois as fuck.
Now a European living in America but rejecting the cancer I don't really care about.
My point was we can't interbreed between white nations, no more. That will be detrimental to our separate cultures today.
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No.11754
>>11745
>>11752
>You cannot interbreed with other whites because they might have a different culture than you
Is this another divide and conquer shill?
I applaud your subtly this time.
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No.11756
>>11754
Not en-masse, no.
Imagine a white ethnostate with 100 "Germans".
For the sake of argument these are the only Germans by that exist and their culture is rather unique. If a thousand Americans that are genetically German but culturally American were to suddenly move there the German culture would be nigh obliterated.
This is what I am talking about. Genes don't matter, if it's just a few people changing nations but not race the saying "When in Rome" being taken seriously for one would be enough.
I'm not saying we can't have an exchange of goods or knowledge as long as it is controlled.
I'm not talking about one German fucking an Austrian, or even one guy fucking some slavshit.
I couldn't care less.
I applaud your ability to misunderstand me in order to project your ego on an imaginary enemy.
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No.11757
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No.11865
>>5636
FOKY WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN
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No.11868
>>11865
Why the fuck did you just bump this you mentally ill turd
Kys
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No.11870
>>11868
what's your youtube fams, also unblock me on steam or else
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No.11875
>>11868
Great reply 10/10
Go away wiccatruar
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No.11877
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No.11943
Picked up this Kolovrat at my state fair. Was like 5 bucks though lolz
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No.11985
>>5627
I love this pic. It reminds me of Polands flag.
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No.15029
>>5636
so we're all norse? That's even more cool, I always wanted Poland to be germanic, lol
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No.15032
>>15029
If you had watched Varg's video on this you'd knew that nationality is utterly and comp-fucking-letely meaningless compared to race. The underlying population subset is always what counts, not some piece of paper saying you're serbian/french/irish/polish/swedish/german or whatever.
Also if you had actually studied the norse you'd know that they colonized the entire baltic sea coast including eastern Germania (what you erroneously call Poland)
The ancient inhabitants of cape arkona and the eastern germanic gods they worshipped and whom they performed sacrifice rites to were norse-derived aswell
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No.15055
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No.15056
>>5636
> History doesn't mention them before the byzantine empire
>Suevs
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No.15057
>>5643
>various eastern germanic tribes
such as vandali , lugii, semnones?
nah they were slavic
btw german really mean brother (just like hermes etc) and it cannot be applied to more than one tribe (which are teutoni only), while Suevs/Slavs are many tribes.
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No.15058
>>5648
> started pushing westward to un-germanize eastern germanic areas on the outer edges of Silesia
Never happened
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No.15060
>>15055
>>15056
>>15057
>>15058
Hello Pjotr, how is the weather in Warsaw right now?
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No.15064
>>15060
Right now, Trump is in Warsaw, weather is great, ge*many is full of shitskins.
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