No.1625
A fantasy writer asserts that author J.R.R. Tolkien embedded themes of racism in his eternal classics The Lord of the Ring and The Hobbit by depicting orcs and similar creatures as races of evil, inferior brutes
Author Andy Duncan offered this opinion during an interview on the Wired Magazine podcast ‘Geek’s Guide to the Galaxy.’
“It’s hard to miss the repeated notion in Tolkien that some races are just worse than others, or that some peoples are just worse than others,” Duncan said. “And this seems to me, in the long term — if you embrace this too much, it has dire consequences for yourself and for society.“A lot of these creatures that were raised out of the earth had not a great deal of choice in the matter of what to do,” he added. “I have this very complicated sense of the politics of all that.”
Duncan seemed to draw oblique correlations between the plight of Tolkien’s grotesque villains and the on-going migrant crisis, specifically the situation unfolding at the southern border of the United States.“It is easier to demonize one’s opponents than to try to understand them and to understand the complex forces that are leading to, for example, refugees trying to cross one’s southern border legally or illegally,” Duncan said. “It’s easier to just build walls and demonize them as ‘scum.'
https://archive.is/juOVX
https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/geeksguide336final.mp3
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No.1626
>>1625
>A nu-fantasy hack shoe-horns his idiotic political views into the works of a vastly superior writier in order to get attention
sad
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No.1644
>>1625
New flash, race-competition is the basis of evolution, and even the devolution as envision from Tolkiens 'fall from creation' Catholic inspired world. Denial of race targets the races of higher empathy, and turns this empathy into their seed of their total annihilation. Sweden is the perfect example. LOTR was written for what is happening now in the world. The destruction of the Aryan race and a new world order of darkness posing as light via using those controlled by the rings (central banks) is the end game. Saruman represents global academia. Soron is of course Satan/YHVH.
LOTR is a story of the struggle of the Aryan race again internal corruption, and Soron's and collaborator Saruman's unification of the lesser races in the attempt to rape and destroy men (Aryan peoples and allies) permanently.
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No.1645
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No.1646
>>1644
By that logic species mixing with Elves should be a horrible thing, but it isn't.
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No.1648
>>1646
Tolkien's elves were obviously meant to be not just White, but White civilization bringers.
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No.1665
>>1644
Speaking of Catholicism. Repsecting the fact that Tolkien was a Latin also means erasing all gnostic bullshit. Sauron is of course a embodiment of the Evil One. He can't be God and Satan at once unless you believe the Gnosticus autism about Sophia and the Demiurg which fucks the gospel and makes it Null, since there no continuation and nothing to fulfil
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No.1669
Low-tier fantasy like Warcraft just makes the Orcs/Zombies/Whatever be dindu minorities while the Humans are the White Devils.
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No.1670
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No.1671
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No.1673
>>1665
Actually a major inconsistency in Saturnian (jew, christian, muslim) monotheism, is that if Saturn is all powerful, why does he let 'the devil/satan' do what he does. It's almost as if good cop / bad cop is being played. Essentially, Satan is Saturn's alter-ego. This means that Saturn cannot be good by any common standard of justice, rather either neural as a force of nature, or evil. If you have the power to stop a murderer and don't, then you may be considered an accomplice. If god is not all powerful then he is not god as he is represented. Zoroastrianism avoids these fundamental theological flaws with duotheism. There is an evil god and a good god of equal power, and humans can sway things one way or another based on their actions. Zoroastrianism is as close as Aryans came to monotheism. Semitic monotheism is irrational.
>>1671
Have I enlightened you anon?
>>1644
Let me just add that Saruman represents all the established public authorities, except government and finance. So beyond academia this includes the Pope for example.
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No.1676
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>>1646
It was depicted as a tragedy, yes, but not comparable to orcs raping women and producing half-orcs. Not that Tolkien graphically depicted such a thing, unlike Goblin Slayer.
>>1648
Yes, the light elves were just below the gods in the Nordic cosmological hierarchy. There were also dark elves that lived underground, said to be malevolent to humans, but also beautiful like the light elves. Most of what we consider traditional fantasy comes from old Germanic and Celtic religion.
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No.1681
>>1673
>jew, Christian, muslim
>Saturn
Are you shitposting or genuinely retarded?
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No.1684
>>1673
>anthropomorphizing God
>thinking that higher beings view good/evil in the same terms as humans
We are still infants.
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No.1685
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No.1686
What's with this influx of shitposters?
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No.1687
>>1665
Wouldn't it be Morgoth who is the devil? Sauron is just some lesser demon.
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No.1689
>>1685
Thank you, that is a useful term
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No.1691
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No.1706
>Saturnposter here as well
He sure is fond of immigrating to respectable boards and treating them as his personal shitting street. He's got more in common with the Aryans than I thought.
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No.1707
>>1684
>>1685
Sorry but everyone has a 'subjective' view on reality. People that claim 'objectivity' either do so because sufficient numbers of other subjectives confirm (science/politics) or because they want to place their own subjectivity in the place of the objective to the benefit of their own ego (most organized religion).
>>1687
I suppose you're right. Its been a longtime since I've read Tolkien.
<Also I'm ignoring all the ignorant plebs
>>1706
Yes kike, your god was identified by the Romans as Saturn, and Islam is derivative of your 'religion' as is Christianity (though there are some very reformist sects nearing Deism). Saturn, the god of reaping and blood sacrifice. That is one reason why you practice circumcsion, it doesn't draw the same hate as open human sacrifice.
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No.1735
>>1684
You do realise that the idea that higher beings would view good/evil differently from humans is itself a product of human sensibilities
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No.1737
>Romans called a god "Saturn"
>that makes them Saturn
I'm going to level with you here, literally everything you've said can be debunked by any theologian worth his salt, or even any historian
Take your autism and go
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No.1745
>>1706
So this Saturnposter always shows up on the board that happened to win the games and then posts about aryans regardless of whether or not its relevant to the board?
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No.1750
>>1707
We're arguing for the same point re: subjectivity. Thus why understanding "objectivity" (aka. God's viewpoint) is far out of reach for even current humans.
If you also believe in subjectivism, that pokes a hole in your argument, doesn't it? Who are you to use the terms Good and Evil as if they were objective?
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No.1752
>>1745
I'm fairly certain he's shown up on other boards that haven't won. But otherwise yes, he'll natter on about Aryans and Saturn until he gets bored and finds somewhere else to squat
though on /monarchy/ he revealed that his loyalty to racial purity is pretty thin since he has yellow fever.
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No.1764
Why does his opinion matter? Ignore the faggot.
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No.1765
>>1673
>Muslim
>Saturnian
What is monotheism?
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No.1766
>>1673
Into the >>>oven you go.
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No.1767
>>1673
>posts no sources to retarded theory.
Into the >>>oven you go Nietzsche.
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No.1780
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No.1782
>>1767
Look it up nigger, I don't have to source anything.
I'm not an NPC. >>1780 sup kike? >>1766 Oh did I trigger a christcuck? >>1765 Yes, anon, their crescent represents Saturn, so does their black cube. >>1764 muh faggots, kys nigger, NYAA~
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No.1792
>>1782
Where is the Middle Earth discussion?
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No.1798
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No.1799
>>1782
>their crescent represents Saturn, so does their black cube.
Every historian not to mention carbon dating disagrees with you
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No.1816
>>1625
>race was stated to be outright created by Melkor to be evil
>OY VEY DAS RAYCISS
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No.1957
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No.2003
>>1644
Are you retarded?
Read letter 30
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No.2020
>>1644
>Soron is of course Satan/YHVH.
Yahweh is the God of Catholicism, although they don't usually use that name for him. Tolkien would not have agreed with your gnostic identification of God the Father with Satan.
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No.2022
>>2020
Well, technically that's the closest we have to His original name, which was lost to history
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