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Realistically What’s the odds that Tomoko will lose her virginity before most of her fans do?
Tomoko having canon sex in Watamote seems possible now.
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No.94594
>>94471
>>94508
To me, the spin-off, had an apropriate end for the series, Tomoko still strugling with her issues but her friendship with Yu and her... whatever with Komiyama bringing optimism and hope for the future.
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No.94597
>>94594
I think that would have been a decent end as well if this yuri harem stuff never happened and maybe just became slightly closer to Komi-something-or-other-san and it just ended with her looking forward to college thinking that it will change.
Alternatively if maybe in the end she developed a little bit of self awareness and had a self realization that she can't just wait for things to happen in college and she needs to try to make them happen herself. Then the series ends on an ambiguous but slightly hopeful note.
But at this rate I feel like we're just going to get yuri harem college adventures dragged out into infinity
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No.94619
>>94594
>>94597
The anime had the perfect ending for the series, it's gut wrenchingly awful yet honest. Had they put that ending even as a chapter in between or directly after the School Trip Arc, I would have respected the new direction, as it would have given Tomoko an actual character arc and some development to her personality.
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No.94625
Fang is now the heir for the original spirit of Watamote. Prime Tomoko but extrovert.
>>94597
>>94619
SoL Watamote isn't even that bad per se. It is just that it pales in contrast to the initial series. I would have liked it more if it was a distinct work. It feels like we exchanged a 9.5/10 for a 7/10.
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No.94702
>>94625
>SoL Watamote isn't even that bad per se.
I don't disagree with that which is I suppose in part why I've kept up with it. It isn't horrible to read it's just disappointing that this is watamote
>>94619
I think ending it after then would have been fine too. It maybe gives you hope for her future without having to see it. I guess one of my main gripes in seeing the future after the trip arc was that her yuri harem formed so unnaturally.
They all go on about how Tomoko is so interesting and weird and it's fun to be around her. Whenever I see shit like that being thought or said by characters it just makes me feel as if Tomoko's delusions just became real one day. She always had chuuni thoughts about about how being the way she is makes her more interesting and the joke was that it simply didn't and she was just trying to make herself feel better about her situation.
But now those delusions are real and everyone acts like that. In the past the manga felt so much more real and the emotions and thoughts within it felt very grounded in reality and the whole situation felt so much more real. But now it's as if she's stepped into a manga and has become your standard manga mc. It really feels as if a genie came in and made her the manga character she always wanted to be.
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No.94712
>>94471
>an Isekai chapter down the line.
>>94702
>It really feels as if a genie came in and made her the manga character she always wanted to be.
It pretty much is an isekai already.
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No.94798
Should I be glad I never (properly) read the manga?
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No.94806
>>94798
Absolutely, yes. The early, popularized (heh) Tomoko is the best one. See >>74934
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No.94866
>>93428
>Entire crux of her autism was to meet a boy
She will meet ME somehow, and then everything will be perfect. That's the real ending.
>This is building up to some giga turbo autism i can feel it.
If there weren't so many crazy girls around and she only had one or two friends, she would just end up alone again in college, but it would be even worse. I never made friends myself, but even I had two, in high school, but I never took the initiative. Other weirdos just kinda talked to me. In college, that didn't happen, then I realized that being with those people probably reduced my ability to socialize. I dropped out a bunch of times, but never talked to anyone ever. Now I haven't talked to anyone in 8 years and have barely left the house in 3 years. Tomoko just attracted a bunch of weird people, so it's basically the same thing, but it seems a lot less likely that she will end up completely alone again. Still, even with the confidence boost from not being alone, talking to strangers is uncomfortable.
>>94440
Smug and original.
>>94798
How about experiencing things yourself and making your own decision instead of parroting what other people say and looking for validation online?
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No.95783
>>94798
Overwhelmingly yes. Komi san is filling the role of socially awkward girl that Tomoko Kuroki left behind. I'd say that the Anime still holds up, but just assume that the manga ends like at chapter 9-10.
>>94866
I think the other anon has a right to ask about the series. Keep in mind that Watamote is really strong up until its halfway point, meaning that he might have to suffer just as us.
Also what I find most unreasonable about nu-Watamote is that girls spontaneously all developed autism all at once. It's like they diluted every single character trait Tomoko had and made a composite character out of it, with Yuri being as close as the original Tomoko as possible, emoji-tan being the lesbo part of her, Yoshida-san the mean part, that knock off Miku the otaku part etc. Literally Komiyama is more interesting than her at this point.
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No.95855
>>95783
>girls spontaneously all developed autism all at once
That is not how I see it. They were always like this. The only weird thing about it is that they weren't around before. Unless they were suddenly vaccinated, you wouldn't expect them to be so invisible for so long. Most of the manga focused completely on Tomoko, and everyone else around her seemed to be normal and boring, and then suddenly she's surrounded by other girls that are as weird, in different ways, and that want to destroy her holes almost as much as I do. Other than asking yourself where they were the whole time, there is nothing really wrong with it. It's just a sudden shift that doesn't necessarily make that much sense, and has some drawbacks. Still fun, though. The worst thing about it is that I don't get as much Tomoko as before, so it's like the manga is dangling a piece of meat in front of a starving dog. But if it's the only thing that bothers me about the manga, and it's still fun, then it's definitely still good and people should read it and make their own decisions, instead of following the retard hivemind.
>Yuri being as close as the original Tomoko as possible
Not necessarily true. We don't know much about her, because there are too many characters, and she's by far the quietest. I don't think she has the soul of a perverted old man like Tomoko does, but we may never know, and I really want to know. That is the only real problem with the manga as far as I'm concerned. Having too many characters limits how well we can get to know each one of them individually, and especially limits how well we can know a character that is clearly uncomfortable around other people. Introducing more characters was a good idea because we already knew Tomoko well enough, but keeping all of them around all the time was too much.
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No.95866
>>95855
>Still fun though.
No it's really not fun at all. It's quite boring, actually. It was still kinda fun during the School arc, I'll give you that much. It's such a safe manga right now that it's painful, I'd much rather read how Komi-san is trying to communicate, despite how weak it is compared to the original Watamote, than this garbage, yet I come back hoping it will get fixed eventually.
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No.95871
>>95866
Tomoko literally became a cardboard cutout harem protagonist.
I'd rather she become something like pic related rather than what we have now.
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No.95883
>>95871
Yeah, I think it has already been said (jokingly) before but it's kinda grave when "the spin off's" are closer to the OG concept than the current state of the manga, and like >>94508 said, the yuri danshi bucks are too sweet, I bet the author would've never dreamt such a success with the yuri harem route.
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No.95973
>>95883
The only way to truly reclaim this sort of series from their worse version is the Pepe the Frog approach of making it extreme on the other side of the spectrum until the new "fans" stop trying to be associated with it, but I don't see it happening any time soon with Watamote because for one thing, the western fans are in the minority and it's mostly nips buying it now (in a very weird contrast to how it started out, with western fans being the sole reason it was kept alive as otakus shunned it because it stroke too close to their filthy homes) so instead of making her into some sort of neo nazi I'd say it'd be much funnier if she started bending the knee and apologizing for Nanking and Korean women of comfort. I'd wager that nips would get assblasted of seeing her like that.
On a side note, I really don't get why they're still butt flustered over the war crimes. Literally every nation who's been at war in that period killed millions with fair or foul means, what on Earth are they gaining from not admitting they performed some snuggles with some struggles?
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No.95981
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No.95983
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.95984
>>95983
Oh fuck... did not notice the artstyle at first.
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No.96095
I thought Charlie Brown was only into redheads.
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No.98360
>>74776
Yuri danshi are fucking crazy too, but not as crazy as fujoshits.
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No.98763
You know I can buy Tomoko ending up friends with some of these people, but what's the deal with Asuka? She's a seemingly perfect girl who came out of nowhere and suddenly became really interested in Tomoko, even Ucchi's obsession seems more plausible.
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No.98925
>mfw I see /u/niggers defending the "unaware yuri harem" route this took and even calling it "metamorphosis"
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No.98953
>>98925
I don't mind yuri shit, but this wasn't originally the appeal of the series at all and is kind of boring to boot. There's no real character development going on with Tomoko and there hasn't been much of a point to adding a new moe-of-the-week to the group other than a setup for a "WOW I WAS POPULAR ALL ALONG xD" punchline. You can't even really call it a harem. Any /u/fags defending it on the basis of it just having some girls together in it needs a better argument.
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No.100450
>Finally decide to continue watching Watamote
>Episode seven
>Going to a handshake event for a VA for an otome VN
>Expecting fat otaku fujoshit central
>Everyone there except Tomoko is a cute highschool girl
I used to think she was just an unfortunate autist. But now I feel as if the world's RNG is actively rigged against her.
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No.100697
>>98360
>Yuri danshi are fucking crazy too, but not as crazy as fujoshits.
How so?
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No.100698
>>96095
Charlie Brown sometimes like to get his dick wet.
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No.100952
my hope is she does something super embarrassing and borderline illegal making her an outcast for university where we will get the old tomoko back. but i am afraid now that the cat is out of the bag there is no going back.
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No.100976
>>100952
Only thing that would make it readable.
I don't even object to her fixing her autism, it's just been dragged out for so long now and it's going nowhere interesting, the manga has just become boring.
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No.101462
>>100952
THIS
I really, REALLY hope all this generic shit is so that she can fuck up and sink even lower than she was before
I miss my scumbag, depressed waifu
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No.101581
>>100952
>>101462
She will do that, and then the only person on the planet that will still love her will be me. She will hit rock bottom and meet me, that's the real ending, anon, no matter what the writer says. Anything else would be wrong. We have to both get autismbux, and live together in isolation forever getting drunk and watching anime while holding hands and then having crazy sex on drugs. If that doesn't happen, the universe will be a mistake and everyone will have to go to hell and choke on Satan's big red spiky cock. This is canon, because I said so. I am both God and Satan, so I have to be right. Trust me. And stop judging my dream future. Your version can't be much better.
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No.101586
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No.101591
>>101586
Don't worry, I laugh at me too, Quattro. But it's the truth. It has to be, or I will have no reason to not immediately hang myself.
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No.101595
>>98763
None of it makes any sense. The entire school revolves around her now, but she's no better than she was at the start. Even assuming she grew in character, there's no reason some of these guys can think she's cool.
>>98925
/a/ flat out banned me thrice because of this.
>>98953
>You can't even really call it a harem. Any /u/fags defending it on the basis of it just having some girls together in it needs a better argument.
They just like the fact that now otakus are buying it and pixiv artists are making lewds of all characters. Literally the only reason.
>>100952
You know it's going to end three years from now when they reach the graduation scene and she realizes she was popular all along or some other boring bullshit.
>>101462
Pains me to see how much energy they used to put in this manga's drawings, now it's pretty much people looking apathetic and the occasional grin or angry face.
>>101581
People like you are the reason why I hope that when we die and go into the deep unknown, anime waifus are waiting anons on the other side.
luckily I struck gold long ago
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No.101596
>>101462
Not going to happen. Just like your life will never be anything but a fialure.
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No.104520
Man, I don't know how they did it but they finally managed to kill all the "cringe" in the manga with the last chapter. It hasn't been a "comedy" in quite a while, but now it's just a bunch of stuff that happens and sometimes the translators use imageboard lingo to make it feel like Watamote is still relevant.
Spoilers for those who've been missing out... Tomoko went on a Motorbike ride with the delinquent character, someone took a pic of them and sent them to school where they got promptly suspended, but instead of the chapter looking at the repercussions thereof they just jump one panel to the next with stuff that happens when you get in trouble with your school. Not even some sort of reaction from Tomoko aside from a scene of her getting pissed she couldn't respond on LINE to all her new friends. They literally namedrop how she's popular and it somehow isn't plot relevant.
Fuck this series, seriously. Thank goodness for the croquette Yakuza, even though the translations are even worse. I'm being stockholm syndrome'd just in the hope it would crash and burn.
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No.104528
>>104520
Yep, it's absolutely sterile now, the series has been taken over by slice of life loving, overreacting yurifags that will shit out their entire reaction folder when two characters or more appear in the same panel. There's no escape from this hole right here, the author scrapped the "disaster" scenario a long time ago thanks to his fear of losing that vicious fanbase and their shekels.
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No.104594
>>104528
>overreacting
It's funny you said that, because I took a long, hard look at the series as a whole again from start to finish and I've realized what the problem is. It's not even the change of pace or the transition from cringe comedy into a yuri harem.
It's the goddamn writing.
This whole chapter should have been a pretty big deal, Tomoko never was studious but she was also the kind of person who doesn't stand out negatively - outside of the dicks thing at least. Yet no one in the series has any strong feeling towards what just happened, even the parts where her ma's angry at her it's just so dry of graphical emotion. Compare it to earlier chapters, even Tomoko getting a fucking scissors cut is treated like the biggest thing in the world, not just by her words and actions but how they're portrayed with energy, dynamism and a lot of mental projection. There's more drama in Tomoko falling off of a bike than in her entire post school trip world. The art also took a nosedive, not really in substance but in style. Tomoko looked off in later chapters, so I went back and noticed that it's almost like her design got streamlined to churn out faster chapters. It's not as noticeable or as important, but they made her noticeably more proportioned, meaning her expressions are much more muted. They seem like inconsequential things but they really add up.
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No.104648
This chapter did remind me of how much I hate school, though. Dropping out was the right thing to do, even if I end up just killing myself anyway. At least now I can do it the slow way, with alcohol, excessive masturbation and eventually maybe starvation followed by slitting my own throat or something, to make the pain go away.
>>101595
>People like you are the reason why I hope that when we die and go into the deep unknown, anime waifus are waiting anons on the other side.
I wish I could confirm that. It would give me something to live for. Well, immediately die for, but you know what I mean.
>>104594
The main problem is that it's not very real anymore. The pain is gone.
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No.106905
I am disgusted, yet I keep coming back. Even they know it, and they rub it onto everyone's faces. I fucking called it when I heard they were gonna make more 4koma.
Fuck this. Really fuck this. I have to thank the creators of this series for having given me a reason to actually git gud at drawing, just so I can make something that can top off this shitty series or at least inspire someone else not to read it.
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No.106923
>>106905
Holy fucking shit, the sheer audacity.
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No.107906
>>106905
Not exactly a hard thing to call, no shit they were going to include the new characters they've made if they're going back to Tomomote after all this time.
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No.107943
When did it start going down-hill? The first 2 volumes were solid gold.
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No.108019
>>107943
When Tomoko started getting new friends.
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No.108020
Watamote could have been a masterpiece of depression manga. Start with some comedy that every introvert can relate to, rope in the slice-of-life fags by giving her some friends, and then tear their hearts out by watching her drive them all away. It could have been a lesson that introverts can bear some responsibility for their own suffering.
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No.108032
Why is he so handsome, lads?
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No.108038
>>108032
Because the True End was wincest all along and the universe is trying to make the author re-realise that.
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No.108044
Last chapter was okay. At least she still has a bit of the autism in her but good grief, they should've ended the manga then and there, as shitty this sappy closure is at least it's better than another hundred chapters of girls talking about being autistic while not being autistic at all.
>>107906
It's not that I didn't expect it, it's that I'm angry I knew they would do this shit. I'm sure they brought in a ton of Japanese fans in exchane for the baka gaijins on purpose.
>>107943
After the School Trip Arc, when somehow the people who actively disliked her decided to do a 180° turn for no reason at all. The fun part was that it would have still been a good manga if the way she made friends with them was something of a gradual understanding, but the way they made it work is that the people who didn't want anything to do with her suddenly did, they had to take Tomoko's traits and imprint them on six different cardboard cutouts.
>>108020
I'm okay with it turning into a positive message about never truly being alone, heck Tomoko's goal all throughout was to try and become a normaflag. But it's just so unnatural and so boring, literally none of the characters have anything interesting to add to the plot, all the occasions they could have added to, y'know, build their relationships don't exist i.e. Yoshida and Tomoko are stuck in detention, but instead of showing them growing closer they shoehorn a single line about what they wanna do afterwards and that's it.
>>108038
I think the weirdest part in all of this is that for once western artists beat the nips in that they keep drawing stuff from just the important parts of the manga instead of the cookie cutter yuri bait.
They could've done so much with this manga, they could've made it into a classic, instead Watamote will forever be a 6/10 that people will either drop or start halfway through.
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No.108048
>>108038
Eh it's either he's a tsundere or into BL. I'd say the chances are 50/50 on that one. I wonder which end would get the most outrage.
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No.108052
>>108020
I can assure you that was the plan, but then YURIBUCKS happened.
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No.114451
Is the yuribaiting still going strong?
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