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d9d19d No.26

The Holy See/Vatican - Hidden issues with the Holy Roman Catholic Churches. Limit to Vatican an other Anglo-Christian Religions. (If there is a coloration between a separate faith discourse may continue.)

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ec5db2 No.3109

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Q is quoted as saying that symbolism will be their downfall. So when an organization is pictured as the "Mouth Piece" of the "Original Serpent" per Rev.12:9, then why would you not question everything it teaches. At John 8:44, Jesus names Satan/lucifer as the "Father" of the lie. He is misleading the entire world!!

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58c312 No.4437

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4c5a38 No.5814

Vigano says there is a 'deep church' just like the 'deep state'. He likened it to a parasite within an organism, whose aims are diametrically opposed to those of its host. No sauce, sorry, spouse read something out loud to me.

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4c5a38 No.5833

A Catholic acquaintance informs that a very large number of Catholics do not exactly accept this Pope as the leader of their church. They point out that his public positions on various issues contradict traditional Catholic teaching.

Some recent Vatican headlines, while I work up to Mike Pompeo's recent visit rebuffed by Pope.

9/19/2020

Pope Francis Calls for ‘Widespread Distribution’ of Coronavirus Vaccines

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/09/19/pope-francis-calls-for-widespread-distribution-of-coronavirus-vaccines

8/27/2020

Vatican: Coronavirus ‘Harbinger of Future Crises Relating to Climate Change’

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/08/27/vatican-coronavirus-harbinger-of-future-crises-relating-to-climate-change

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4c5a38 No.5834

9/19/2020

Mike Pompeo Urges Vatican to Call Out China for Religious Freedom Violations

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020/09/19/mike-pompeo-urges-vatican-call-out-china-religious-freedom-violations/

ROME — U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has urged the Vatican to bring its considerable moral authority to bear on the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which persists in oppressing Christians and people of other faiths.

“The Holy See has a unique capacity and duty to focus the world’s attention on human rights violations, especially those perpetrated by totalitarian regimes like Beijing’s,” Pompeo wrote Friday in an essay for First Things. “In the late twentieth century, the Church’s power of moral witness helped inspire those who liberated central and eastern Europe from communism, and those who challenged autocratic and authoritarian regimes in Latin America and East Asia.”

“That same power of moral witness should be deployed today with respect to the Chinese Communist Party,” the secretary insisted.

“What the Church teaches the world about religious freedom and solidarity should now be forcefully and persistently conveyed by the Vatican in the face of the Chinese Communist Party’s relentless efforts to bend all religious communities to the will of the Party and its totalitarian program,” he added.

Secretary Pompeo’s public urging comes just as Vatican diplomats are meeting with their CCP counterparts to renegotiate a 2018 secret agreement between the Holy See and China on the naming of Catholic bishops in China.

“Two years on, it’s clear that the Sino-Vatican agreement has not shielded Catholics from the Party’s depredations, to say nothing of the Party’s horrific treatment of Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Falun Gong devotees, and other religious believers,” Pompeo noted.

“Communist authorities continue to shutter churches, spy on and harass the faithful, and insist that the Party is the ultimate authority in religious affairs,” he wrote.

This week, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) similarly urged the Vatican to highlight religious liberty in its deliberations with China prior to renewing a 2018 deal on the naming of bishops.

“Communist China continues to persecute Chinese Catholics. USCIRF hopes any future deal between the Vatican & China is rooted in the protection of #religiousfreedom,” the Commission wrote on its Twitter page.

Both the Vatican and Beijing have signaled a desire to renew their secret 2018 agreement, which conferred on the Chinese Communist Party an unspecified amount of authority in the selection of Catholic bishops in China.

In January 2020, the bipartisan Congressional-Executive Commission on China (CECC) released its annual report on human rights conditions in China, which revealed an overall deterioration of religious liberty since the signing of the Sino-Vatican accord.

“In September 2018, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs signed an agreement with the Holy See, paving the way for the unification of state-sanctioned and underground Catholic communities,” the report stated. “Subsequently, local Chinese authorities subjected Catholic believers in China to increased persecution by demolishing churches, removing crosses, and continuing to detain underground clergy.”

“The Party-led Catholic national religious organizations also published a plan to ‘sinicize’ Catholicism in China,” the report continued, referring to the stated aim of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of obliging all religions to bring their teachings and practices into line with the party.

President Xi Jinping has doubled down on the “sinicization” of religion, the report’s executive summary noted. “Scholars and international rights groups have described religious persecution in China over the last year to be of an intensity not seen since the Cultural Revolution,” it added.

China has intensified its persecution of the underground Catholic church ever since the Holy See softened its position on the state-controlled Catholic Patriotic Association, allowing believers to join despite its assertion of total independence from Rome.

In his essay Friday, Mr. Pompeo wrote that history teaches “that totalitarian regimes can only survive in darkness and silence, their crimes and brutality unnoticed and unremarked.”

“If the Chinese Communist Party manages to bring the Catholic Church and other religious communities to heel, regimes that disdain human rights will be emboldened, and the cost of resisting tyranny will rise for all brave religious believers who honor God above the autocrat of the day,” he warned.

“I pray that, in dealing with the Chinese Communist Party, the Holy See and all who believe in the divine spark enlightening every human life will heed Jesus’s words in the Gospel of John, ‘The truth will set you free,’” he concluded.

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4c5a38 No.5835

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9/26/2020

Mike Pompeo to Host Top Vatican Officials for Religious Freedom Symposium

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/09/26/mike-pompeo-host-top-vatican-officials-religious-freedom-symposium/

ROME — The Vatican’s secretary of state and foreign minister will join U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for a high-level symposium on international religious freedom on September 30.

The U.S. Embassy to the Holy See announced the meeting Saturday, as well as the participation of Cardinal Pietro Parolin and Archbishop Paul Gallagher, who together with Secretary Pompeo and several panelists will discuss “Advancing and Defending International Religious Freedom Through Diplomacy” at the Rome event.

“The symposium will highlight diplomatic tools that governments, international organizations, and faith-based organizations can use to identify and confront religious persecution and encourage international cooperation to protect and promote religious freedom,” the official press release reads.

“Religious persecution and restrictions on religious freedom are among the most pressing global human rights concerns today,” the statement continues. “Promoting and securing religious freedom is a cornerstone of the United States’ diplomatic relationship with the Holy See.”

“The United States understands that upholding the right to religious freedom is not just a moral necessity, it is a national security imperative. When nations effectively promote and protect religious freedom, they are safer, more prosperous, and secure,” said U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Callista Gingrich.

Just over a week ago, Secretary Pompeo published an article in which he urged the Vatican to use its moral authority to pressure China on the issue of human rights and religious liberty.

“The Holy See has a unique capacity and duty to focus the world’s attention on human rights violations, especially those perpetrated by totalitarian regimes like Beijing’s,” Pompeo wrote in a September 18 essay for First Things.

“In the late twentieth century, the Church’s power of moral witness helped inspire those who liberated central and eastern Europe from communism, and those who challenged autocratic and authoritarian regimes in Latin America and East Asia,” Pompeo wrote. “That same power of moral witness should be deployed today with respect to the Chinese Communist Party.”

“What the Church teaches the world about religious freedom and solidarity should now be forcefully and persistently conveyed by the Vatican in the face of the Chinese Communist Party’s relentless efforts to bend all religious communities to the will of the Party and its totalitarian program,” he added.

The Vatican is currently negotiating with officials of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) regarding the renewal of a controversial secret joint agreement on the appointment of Catholic bishops in China.

In his essay, Mr. Pompeo said the Vatican hoped the accord “would improve the condition of Catholics in China by reaching agreement with the Chinese regime on the appointment of bishops,” something he insists has not happened.

“Two years on, it’s clear that the Sino-Vatican agreement has not shielded Catholics from the Party’s depredations, to say nothing of the Party’s horrific treatment of Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Falun Gong devotees, and other religious believers,” Pompeo wrote.

On Thursday, the BBC reported that China has “expanded its network of detention centres for its Uighur minority despite insisting the ‘re-education’ system was being scaled back,” updating stories from last summer reporting the detention of more than a million Uighur Muslims.

There are some 380 reeducation camps in China’s Xinjiang region, about 40 percent more than previous estimates, according to a report released by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

The report “identifies 100 more detention sites than previous investigations have shown, based on analysis of satellite imagery, interviews with eyewitnesses, media reports and official documents,” the BBC stated.

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4c5a38 No.5836

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Pope Francis Declines to Meet Mike Pompeo After Secretary of State Slams Vatican-China Ties - Report

https://sputniknews.com/europe/202009281080600087-pope-francis-declines-to-meet-mike-pompeo-aftersecretary-of-state-slams-vatican-china-ties---report/

14:54 GMT 28.09.2020Get short URL

by Lilia Dergacheva

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The Pope was to meet the US top diplomat to discuss the would-be renewal of the Vatican-China deal, which oversees the procedure of appointment of Chinese bishops.

Pope Francis announced Sunday that he will not meet US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is going on a formal visit this week, for fear it “could influence the US election campaign” and in order to “avoid any kind of manipulation”, Italian newspaper La Repubblica reported, citing the pontiff's office.

The development comes after the top US diplomat was recently vocal in his criticism of the Vatican’s ties with China. Francis and Pompeo have been planning a meeting regarding whether or not to renew a deal, whereby the Vatican approves the bishops appointed by China’s Catholic branch.

Pompeo has argued the Vatican should by no means do it, citing the alleged religious persecution of Xinjiang Muslims, which the politician rushed to accuse Xi Jinping’s government of.

“The human rights situation in China has deteriorated severely under the autocratic rule of Xi Jinping, especially for religious believers”, the secretary of state wrote in an article for First Things magazine this month.

China, which has rejected all accusations of wrongdoing, asserted that the Western world’s claims are simply not true.

Earlier this year, China hosted an exhibition in the lobby of its Chinese Embassy in Washington: over 40 panels were presented, aiming to dispel Western allegations, and aspired to prove that the so-called “concentration camps for Muslims” were meant to teach Uighurs certain skills that could help them secure jobs. Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Wang Wenbin has since weighed in on the tense debate, saying the issue concerning Xinjiang “is by no means about human rights, religion or ethnicity, but about combating violent terrorism and separatism”.

Deal With China Renewed?

The news about Francis ditching plans to meet Pompeo came amid conflicting reports on the current status of the aforementioned agreement. The Telegraph reported yesterday that the accord is expected to be renewed, while Independent Catholic News cited a Reuters report claiming that it had already been extended.

Whatever the case, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin shared regarding the agreement that there is “good communication” between China and the Vatican, adding that Catholicism in China has seen “sound development” recently.

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4c5a38 No.5837

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9/29/2020

Growing Coalition Questions Vatican Silence on China’s Human Rights Abuses

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/09/29/growing-coalition-questions-vatican-silence-on-chinas-human-rights-abuses/

ROME — A growing number of human rights advocates and observers are vocally expressing their bewilderment at the Vatican’s silence over the egregious human rights abuses perpetrated by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

Pope Francis and other key Vatican figures have avoided criticizing ongoing violations of religious liberty in China, despite the Holy See’s constant appeals to end such abuses elsewhere.

During his annual Christmas message last December, for instance, Pope Francis offered up prayers for troubled regions around the world, remembering all those who suffer persecution, and yet conspicuous by its absence in the nearly exhaustive list was any mention of the persecution of religious believers in China or the ongoing Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.

Among the many held up for their suffering, the pope enumerated “the Middle East,” the “beloved Syrian people,” “the Lebanese people,” “Iraq,” “Yemen,” “the whole American continent,” “the beloved Venezuelan people,” “beloved Ukraine,” “the people of Africa,” “the Democratic Republic of the Congo,” “Burkina Faso,” “Mali,” “Niger,” and “Nigeria.”

Not a word for Chinese Christians, members of Falun Gong, or persecuted Uighur Muslims.

In a curious case of cognitive dissonance, the pope himself has only had praise for China, insisting that its communist government protects religious freedom and that its “churches are full.” He has also reversed Church discipline to allow Chinese Catholic priests to enroll in the state-run Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, which was set up under the rule of Chairman Mao Zedong as a parallel church to the church in Rome.

Francis’ efforts to cozy up to the CCP have earned him only reproach from his critics, such as the former bishop of Hong Kong, Cardinal Joseph Zen, who claims that due to his naivete, Pope Francis is “killing” the underground Church in China.

In an unusual departure from the path marked by Vatican leadership, the United States bishops have called on the faithful to pray for Chinese Christians and to inform themselves on the horrendous abuses being carried out by the government of Xi Jinping.

This past June, the U.S. Bishops published a stinging communiqué calling out the CCP for its shocking violations of religious liberty.

“Under the Chinese Communist Party, Chinese citizens have limited religious freedom,” the bishops noted. “Since 2013, religious persecution has intensified under a government campaign for the ‘sinicization’ of religion — an effort to have religions conform to government-sanctioned interpretations of Chinese culture.”

“While the Vatican has reached a provisional agreement with China on the issue of episcopal appointments, reports of persecution by the Chinese government persist as underground churches are closed and their priests detained, crosses destroyed, bibles confiscated, and children under 18 forbidden from attending Mass and receiving religious instruction,” the bishops said.

Along with the sufferings of persecuted Christians, the bishops also underscored the situation of Muslim minorities in China, particularly the Uighurs.

“Muslims have suffered grievous human rights abuses,” the bishops wrote. “Since 2017, 800,000 to possibly two million ethnic Uighur, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, and Hui Muslims have been arbitrarily detained in mass internment camps.”

Similarly, Cardinal Charles Bo of Myanmar, president of the Federation of Asian Bishops’ Conferences, released a statement this summer noting that in China, “the Uyghur Muslims are facing what amounts to some of the contemporary world’s worst mass atrocities and I urge the international community to investigate.”

Church figures have not been alone in their criticism of China’s abuses and of the Vatican’s appeasement policy.

Earlier this year, Lord Chris Patten, the last British governor of Hong Kong, said the Vatican “got it badly wrong about China” in its 2018 accord with the Communist Party on the naming of bishops.

“It is very sad, but under Xi Jinping things have gone backwards in China,” Patten told the Tablet, a UK-based Catholic journal, adding that it was “bizarre” for the Vatican to warm to the Communist Party at this time.

“How can you have a rapprochement on religious issues with China when there are a million or more Uighur Muslims locked up in Xinjiang?” asked Patten, who has been chancellor of Oxford University since 2003.

Lord Patten, who was the governor of Hong Kong from 1992 to 1997, said he understands why the Vatican has an interest in China but questions the opportuneness of its timing and method.

“Of course I am in favour of them trying to do what they can to make it easier for Catholics and Christians to worship in China,” said Patten, who is himself a Catholic.

“I just think this was an extraordinary time to be doing this with an administration in China which has gone back on human rights – which is making things tougher on human rights. That is what Xi Jinping has been doing,” he said.

“I find myself sympathising hugely with Cardinal Zen on this and with others,” Lord Patten said.

In late July, a searing article in Foreign Affairs drew an unfavorable parallel between the reaction of prominent Jews to China’s atrocities and that of the Catholic Church.

While the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Marie van der Zyl, has drawn comparisons between the plight of the Uighurs in China today and the Holocaust, no such indictment has emerged from the Vatican, Benedict Rogers noted in his article.

Nobody could see the evidence and fail to note “the similarities between what is alleged to be happening in the People’s Republic of China today and what happened in Nazi Germany 75 years ago: People being forcibly loaded on to trains; beards of religious men being trimmed; women being sterilised; and the grim spectre of concentration camps,” Ms. van der Zyl declared.

“But one voice has been strangely absent — that of Pope Francis, ordinarily a powerful advocate for the oppressed,” Rogers stated. “His silence speaks to the dangers of the deal made with China by the Vatican — and demands that others in the church speak out.”

“It is Francis’s silence that shocks me most,” Rogers wrote. “Almost every Sunday, as he prays the Angelus, he rightly references some injustice somewhere in the world. He has spoken often in the past not only of the persecution of Christians around the world but of the plight of the Rohingyas in Myanmar; the conflicts in Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, and Nigeria; and religious freedom for all.”

Writing for the Sunday Times this summer, Dominic Lawson expressed similar perplexity at the Vatican’s dogged unwillingness to employ its moral authority to call the CCP to an account.

“As more and more nations have expressed their concern about the growing evidence of concentration camps and even genocide in the Chinese province of Xinjiang, there has been silence from the one entity that has the whole of suffering humanity at the core of its mission. I refer to the Holy See,” Mr. Lawson wrote.

“This is part of the Holy See’s long campaign to achieve full mutual diplomatic relations with Beijing, which Vatican diplomats imagine will give them leverage with a leading world power,” Lawson added. “But it was a concession Francis’s predecessors would not have made — especially not the fiercely anti-communist John Paul II.”

“The replacement of bishops appointed by Rome with those acceptable to Beijing (and previously excommunicated) has caused consternation among faithful Catholics,” he wrote. “One priest described it to me as ‘an act of perfidy, stupidity and betrayal.’”

Vatican watchers have attributed the Holy See’s strange unwillingness to call out China’s abuses on its intense desire to establish diplomatic relations with the Asian giant, for which the Vatican has been willing to turn a blind eye to myriad cruelties.

Last May, veteran Vatican journalist John L. Allen, Jr. wrote that the Holy See is pulling out all the stops to woo Beijing into full diplomatic relations.

The Vatican is “covetous of a relationship with China, and often apparently willing to stifle objections and give away a great deal” in order to make this happen, Mr. Allen wrote.

In short, “the Vatican is moving full-steam ahead in its courtship of Beijing, with the ultimate prize remaining full diplomatic relations, a secure legal standing for the church, and partnerships on the global stage,” Allen said.

The linchpin for the Vatican’s charm offensive has been its 2018 secret accord with the CCP regarding the naming of Chinese bishops, a move that received an avalanche of criticism at the time and has only been aggravated by ongoing CCP aggressions against Christians after the deal was signed.

Father Benedict Kiely, founder of Nasarean.org, a charity helping persecuted Christians, has voiced his consternation over the Vatican’s willingness to lend moral credibility to a hostile regime that seems to offer little in return.

The Vatican sold the farm in its 2018 accord with the CCP on the naming of bishops, Father Kiely laments in a recent essay, ceding authority to the CCP in appointing Catholic bishops while gaining little to nothing.

“The accord, signed in secret, in theory allowed for some kind of unity between the ‘official’ Patriotic Church and the underground Church, especially focusing on the appointment of bishops with both Vatican and government approval,” Kiely notes. “However, it seems to most knowledgeable observers that the agreement gave most of the power to the regime and, two years later, more than half of China’s 98 Catholic dioceses are still without bishops.”

“Meanwhile the official doctrine of the Communist party is to ‘sinicize’ every aspect of religious life in China, not only Catholicism,” he writes. “Persecution of the underground Church has continued, with bishops and priests being arrested.”

“According to the charity Open Doors USA, ‘every facet of persecution’ of religion has increased in China in recent years, with the persecution of ‘Church life”—parish activity, religious education, social action—at what they measure as “90% persecution,’” Father Kiely noted.

“The world is only just beginning to realize the extent of the persecution of the Chinese Uighur Muslims, according to some experts reaching the level of genocide, with conservative estimates of more than 1.5 million Uighurs in ‘re-education camps,’” he said.

As a growing opposition to the Holy See’s China policy coalesces, Pope Francis risks damaging the historic legacy of his pontificate.

It would be ironic — not to say tragic — if the pope who made defense of the poor and marginalized the hallmark of his papacy were to be remembered not for his accomplishments in lifting up the peripheries but for his silence on China.

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4c5a38 No.5838

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2020-10-01 03:52:42Z Q #4799 09/30/2020 09:52 PM

Author: Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 #10864489

Rebuffed by Vatican, Pompeo Assails China and Aligns With Pope’s Critics

Pope Francis declined to see Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is demanding a harder Vatican line on China. The Holy See said meeting just before a U.S. election would be inappropriate.

By Jason Horowitz and Lara Jakes

Sept. 30, 2020, 7:26 p.m. ET

ROME — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo recently published a sharp letter excoriating the Vatican’s plans to renew an agreement with the Chinese government on Church operations in China. He promoted the article in a tweet, concluding, “The Vatican endangers its moral authority, should it renew the deal.”

An indignant Vatican took the article more as a calculated affront than a diplomatic gesture. The friction broke into the open on Wednesday as Mr. Pompeo arrived in Rome and met with prelates and others who are hostile to Pope Francis, while the Vatican denied him a meeting with the pontiff and rebuffed his efforts to derail the deal with China.

“Pompeo asked to meet” the pope, who turned him down because Francis had “clearly said that he does not receive political figures ahead of the elections,” Cardinal Pietro Parolin, who, as secretary of state, is the Vatican’s second-ranking official, told reporters.

But to some observers on both sides of the tensions between the Roman Catholic Church and the Trump administration, Mr. Pompeo’s visit is as much about the coming presidential election as about China policy. Mr. Pompeo dismissed that suggestion as absurd, but intended or not, his trip signals that President Trump is on the side of those conservative American Catholics who worry about the church’s direction under Francis and think he is soft on China.

Francis and Mr. Trump, who have exchanged sharp words in the past, present starkly different visions on issues ranging from the environment to immigration to the threat of populism. In appealing to the Vatican’s support for religious freedom as a reason to drop its China agreement, Mr. Pompeo seemed to seek common ground, but in a way that upset the pope’s chief allies and delighted his chief critics.

Cardinal Parolin said Mr. Pompeo’s article had caused “surprise” at the Vatican, because this visit to Rome by the secretary and the meetings with high officials at the Holy See had already been in the works and would have been a “more opportune” forum for airing grievances. He added that Mr. Pompeo’s choice to publish in First Things, a conservative Christian magazine that has called Francis a failure as Pope, also mattered.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/world/europe/pompeo-pope-francis-china.html

>>10864305

When does a Church become a playground?

When does a Church become a business?

When does a Church become political?

When does a Church become corrupt?

When does a Church become willfully blind?

When does a Church become controlled?

Q

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4c5a38 No.5839

9/30/2020

Vatican denies Pompeo audience with pope, accuses him of playing politics

Pompeo: ‘The Vatican legitimized Chinese priests and bishops whose loyalties remain unclear'

https://www.foxnews.com/world/vatican-denies-pompeo-audience-with-pope-accuses-him-of-playing-politics

The Vatican announced Wednesday that they had denied U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s request to meet with Pope Francis during his visit to Rome this week.

Though Vatican officials said it is customary for a pope to avoid meeting with politicians ahead of elections, they also voiced concerns with Pompeo’s alleged attempts to drag the Catholic Church into American politics by requesting they denounce relations with China.

“Yes, he asked. But the pope had already said clearly that political figures are not received in election periods. That is the reason,” Vatican diplomat Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin said, according to Reuters Wednesday.

BARR SAYS 'NOTION' OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE MISUNDERSTOOD BECAUSE OF 'MILITANT SECULARISTS'

The Vatican’s decision followed remarks made by Pompeo at a conference at the U.S. Embassy to the Holy See, where he urged Vatican officials in attendance to join the U.S. in condemning China’s human rights violations and attacks against religious freedom.

Pompeo’s comments coincide with the church’s efforts to renew a two-year-old agreement between the Vatican and China that would allow the pope greater authority over the appointment of bishops in China.

The Vatican believes this agreement will ensure greater security and religious freedoms for Catholics in China, who have increasingly become targets by the Chinese Communist Party, according to the State Department’s 2019 annual report on religious freedom.

But in an essay earlier this month, Pompeo argued the Catholic Church has a responsibility to act as a “moral witness” and reject relations with China, alleging the loyalty of Chinese priests cannot be trusted.

“The Vatican legitimized Chinese priests and bishops whose loyalties remain unclear, confusing Chinese Catholics who had always trusted the Church,” Pompeo said. “Many refuse to worship in state-sanctioned places of worship, for fear that by revealing themselves as faithful Catholics they will suffer the same abuses that they witness other believers suffer.”

Holy See officials have recognized that the agreement is not perfect, but have also argued it is a step in the right direction.

POPE: GOSSIPING IS "PLAGUE WORSE THAN COVID"

“The question of protecting religious freedom so as to allow the local Catholic Church to exercise its mission remains an indispensable part of the scope and activity of the Holy See,” Vatican diplomat Foreign Minister Archbishop Paul Gallagher said.

Parolin said he was “surprised” by Pompeo’s remarks Wednesday, and noted their meeting later in the week would have been a more appropriate time to voice his concerns regarding the church’s relations with China.

“Normally when you’re preparing these visits between high-level officials, you negotiate the agenda for what you are going to talk about privately, confidentially," Gallagher told Reuters. "It’s one of the rules of diplomacy."

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Pompeo has been highly critical of China over the last several months on issues ranging from the coronavirus, the race to 5G, their involvement in revoking Hong Kong autonomy and reported human rights abuses against the Uighurs, an ethnic minority group located in Northwestern China.

“Nowhere is religious freedom under assault more than in China,” Pompeo said during Wednesday’s conference, accusing China of working “day and night to snuff out the lamp of freedom, especially religious freedom, on a horrifying scale.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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4c5a38 No.5840

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10/1/2020

Mike Pompeo Meets With Vatican Officials To Discuss Relations With China Amid US Concern Over Beijing’s Crackdown On Religion

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with Vatican officials Thursday to discuss religious freedom and their differing approaches to China after Pompeo criticized the Vatican for its plans to renew an agreement with Beijing amid human rights concerns, the Associated Press reported.

Pompeo spent 45 minutes in the Apostolic Palace with Cardinal Pietro Parolin and the Vatican foreign minister Archbishop Paul Gallagher discussing “the importance of religious freedom and other human rights issues,” especially with regard to China, the State Department’s deputy spokesperson Cale Brown said according to the AP.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo stands by an old map of China during a Mining, Agriculture, and Construction (MAC) Protocol Signing Ceremony at Villa San Sebastiano in Rome on Oct. 1, 2020, as part of his two-day visit to Italy and The Vatican. (Photo by GUGLIELMO MANGIAPANE/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)

Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni said both sides “presented their respective positions” about relations with China in a climate of “respect, openness and cordiality.”

The Vatican had previously declined Pompeo’s request to meet with Pope Francis because Francis had “clearly said that he does not receive political figures ahead of the elections,” Parolin said, according to the New York Times. Pompeo had also published a letter critical of the Vatican’s plans to renew an agreement with the Chinese government, concluding that “[t]he Vatican endangers its moral authority, should it renew the deal.”

The 2018 China-Vatican provisional agreement allows Beijing to name bishops with approval from the pope, which critics have argued worsened religious freedom in China, according to Crux. Hong Kong Bishop Cardinal Joseph Zen has called the agreement an “incredible betrayal” that sent “the flock into the mouths of the wolves,” the Guardian reported. Holy See officials have said that the objective of the agreement was to allow Catholics in China to have bishops in communion with Rome after years of estrangement between the two.

Secretary-General of the International Institute for the Unification of Private Law (UNIDROIT), Ignacio Tirado (L) and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo attend a Mining, Agriculture, and Construction (MAC) Protocol Signing Ceremony at Villa San Sebastiano in Rome on Oct. 1, 2020, as part of Pompeo’s two-day visit to Italy and The Vatican. (Photo by GUGLIELMO MANGIAPANE/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)

Pompeo urged the Vatican to join the U.S. in denouncing China for violating religious freedom and other human rights, especially those of its minorities. A report released in 2020 by the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom found that the Chinese Communist Party was cracking down on religious practice in the country.

Uighur Muslims have been sent to camps for wearing long beards or refusing alcohol, and mosques and Arabic-language signs have been destroyed or damaged, as has been previously reported. The report indicated that camps have also transitioned from reeducation to forced labor, with reports of torture, rape, and sterilization from former detainees. The Chinese government also raided or closed down hundreds of churches in 2019. Authorities removed crosses from churches and banned youth under the age of 18 from participating in religious services, the report says. Images of Jesus Christ or the Virgin Mary were also replaced with pictures of President Xi Jinping. (RELATED: ‘A Regime That Fears Religion’: New Report Details China’s Crackdown On Religion)

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4c5a38 No.5842

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JUNE 23, 2020

Whistleblower Claims Chinese Communists Pay vatican $2 Billion in Bribes

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/06/23/whistleblower-claims-chinese-communists-pay-vatican-2-billion-in-bribes/

ROME — Exiled Chinese dissident Guo Wengui alleged this weekend the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) “allocates $2 billion a year” to pay off the Vatican for its silence concerning Chinese atrocities.

In a June 20th interview on The War Room, Mr. Guo said the CCP earmarks massive sums each year to win the allegiance of foreign countries including the Vatican, Italy, and Australia. Among them, the Vatican receives up to 2 billion dollars from the Chinese Communist Party every year, he said.

“The Chinese Communist Party allocates 2 billion US dollars each year” to gain influence over the Vatican’s internal policy making and to pay for its silence on the CCP’s repression of religious freedom, said the controversial billionaire whistleblower.

Guo has previously stated that China has drafted a complete strategy for world domination known by the initials “BGY,” which stands for Blue (control the Internet), Gold (buy influence with money), and Yellow (seduce key people with sex).

Since 2014, the CCP has formulated internal policies to invest a certain percentage of trade with foreign countries in the BGY program to erode the local state system, Guo said Saturday, and the current BGY quota for the United States is 5%.

According to data from the U.S. Trade Office, the total trade volume between China and the U.S. in 2018 was $7.37 trillion. If calculated according to 5%, the amount used for BGY in the United States would then be about $36.8 billion, Guo said.

Guo also offered a similar calculation for Australia.

“The trade volume between the CCP and Australia is about US $200 billion,” he said. “Previously, 1 percent was used for BGY, but it rose to 5 percent. That is, $10 billion was used for BGY.”

According to Guo, these huge amounts of BGY funds are employed for a variety of uses, including bribing local officials, regulating media messaging, and controlling local resources.

A 2019 report released by the International Cyber Policy Centre at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute revealed hundreds of Twitter accounts linked to the state-backed effort to denigrate pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong had formerly been used to target critics of the Chinese government, principally Guo Wengui.

The accounts were part of a coordinated information campaign operating for more than two years to target Mr. Guo as well as jailed publisher Gui Minhai.

“Those early efforts are an attempt to shape sentiment and the international narrative around these prominent critics of the Chinese government and to shape them in such a way as to influence the Chinese diaspora’s perception of these individuals,” said Jake Wallis, one of the report’s chief authors.

For its part, the Vatican has been carrying on a charm offensive with the CCP for several years, and in September 2018 signed an important secret accord with Beijing concerning the appointment of Catholic bishops in China.

According to veteran Vatican journalist John L. Allen, Jr., the Vatican has spared no effort in its attempt to woo Beijing into full diplomatic relations, a key priority of the Francis papacy.

The Vatican is “covetous of a relationship with China, and often apparently willing to stifle objections and give away a great deal” in order to move toward that goal, Allen wrote last month.

In short, “the Vatican is moving full-steam ahead in its courtship of Beijing, with the ultimate prize remaining full diplomatic relations, a secure legal standing for the church, and partnerships on the global stage,” Allen wrote.

The Vatican’s 2018 overture to Beijing was sweetened by the May 2020 launch of a new Chinese edition of the Jesuit-edited journal Civiltà Cattolica, which enjoys a semi-official Vatican status, Allen noted.

La Civiltà Cattolica said the new edition is meant “as a gesture of friendship, given the increasingly important role that the Chinese language plays in the contemporary world within the global context.”

Mr. Allen’s appraisal of the Vatican’s courtship of China squares with what other Vatican-watchers have been observing as well.

Francis dreams of being the pope who will establish diplomatic relations with Beijing, and to achieve this goal he is willing to make “concessions,” declared Vatican analyst Alban Mikozy on French television last December.

“Pope Francis is a prudent man,” Mikozy said. “He pursues a dream: to be the sovereign pontiff who will restore relations between China and the Vatican.”

“In order to do this, he is ready to make a few concessions: say nothing about Hong Kong, do not get too excited when the Chinese leader talks about rewriting the Bible,” he added, in reference to announcements that the CCP intends to retranslate the Bible and other sacred texts to make them conform to socialist ideology.

Because of this overarching desire, Mikozy said, the pope is willing to turn a blind eye to the CCP’s violations of religious liberty and other human rights issues.

Last November, for instance, during an in-flight press conference during his return flight from Asia, the pope reiterated his desire to visit China, while dodging questions about the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.

“I would like to go to Beijing,” Francis said. “I love China.”

According to Mikozy, the pope’s silence on Hong Kong suggests that he will go to great lengths not to offend the CCP.

The pope has lavished fulsome praise on China, insisting that China’s communist government protects religious freedom and that “churches are full.”

Meanwhile, the chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, the Argentinian Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, has held up communist China as the best model for living out Catholic social teaching today.

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4c5a38 No.5843

https://www.news1.news/2020/10/vatican-financial-scandal-450-million-disappeared-the-best-of-ad.html

October 3, 2020

Twenty million euros has disappeared from Pope Francis’ private account – and that’s just a fraction of the huge sum of money that has been piloted from the Vatican to cardinals, real estate agents and shady middlemen. According to the Italian newspaper The Republic a total of about 450 million euros would have disappeared.

Vatican justice has now charged 15 people, seven of them within the Vatican itself. They are charged with embezzlement, abuse of power and corruption. The main suspect in the case is Cardinal Angelo Becciu, the Deputy Prime Minister of the Vatican, say. He has been put on hold by the Pope. He must also surrender his cardinal title. In their investigative report, the Vatican magistrates speak of a “well-designed plan to plunder the Vatican’s finances that is unparalleled”.

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4c5a38 No.5844

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BECCIU SENT 700K EUROS TO AUSTRALIAN ACCOUNT. TO FRAME PELL?

OCTOBER 3, 2020

by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

The only Cardinal to publicly doubt that Benedict XVI should resign was Cardinal Pell. Soon after, he was ousted from the vatican as he began to audit the accounts of the Roman Curia, including the Secretary of State.

In recent days it has been reported that Cardinal Becciu, the second in charge in the Secretary of State, is intimately involved in a real estate deal which cost the vatican up to 500 million euros, and went so far as to involve the theft of 20 million euros from the personal account of Jorge Mario Bergoglio!

Ah, there is no trust or respect among thieves!

Today, the Corriere della Sera reports that among the dubious money transfers discovered is 700 thousand euros which Becciu wired to an account in Australia. Speculation is that it might be among those euros, money sent to the Mafia in Australia to trump up charges against Cardinal Pell.

The accusation is explosive.

Read the entire article at the Corriere

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Vatican, blackmail and dossiers: it is a war between high prelates. A track leads to Australia

The fight between Cardinals Becciu and Pell. And the payment of 700 thousand euros

by Fiorenza Sarzanini

There is a real dossier activity of some prelates behind the turning point of the investigation that led to the resignation of Monsignor Angelo Becciu . Monsignors - but also officials of the Vatican Secretariat of State - who would have kept documents on real estate investments and on the movement of current accounts. The checks concern numerous transfers, including one for 700 thousand euros that the former Substitute would have made to an Australian account. And that was enough to trigger the controls. Indeed, it was in Australia that one of Becciu's "enemies", Monsignor George Pell, was tried and then acquitted of pedophilia . And now we are checking whether he actually ordered the payment and who the beneficiaries are.

Read also

Becciu: "Treated like a pedophile, Pope Francis has already condemned me"

What is behind Cardinal Becciu's resignation, and why the truce in the Vatican is over

Homes, funds and offshore business: Cardinal Becciu's business (at risk) with Vatican money

The investigation in the Vatican, a witness: "Cash flows directed to Santo Domingo"

“One shopping center. So the Pope asked us for linearity and transparency "

Francis does not back down "The only choice is that of truth"

Becciu: "Treated like a pedophile, Pope Francis has already condemned me"

It is the acts of the investigation that reveal the war that is being fought within the Holy See . Search and seizure decrees, requests for letters rogatory, especially verbal from those who have decided to collaborate with the promoters of justice, probably hoping to avoid much more serious consequences. One is certainly Alberto Perlasca, for years head of the office that manages the Pence of St. Peter within the Secretariat of State, now under investigation for the investment of the Sloane Avenue building in London and for all the other millionaire outlays that have "Looted the coffers of the Vatican".

Over 100 million

According to the checks carried out by the promoters Gian Piero Milano and Alessandro Diddi between 2014 and 2017, Perlasca authorized the Athena Capital Global fund attributable to the fixer Raffele Mincione (also investigated by the Rome prosecutor for money laundering) to make a series of investments that they proved disastrous for Vatican finances: deposits in Deutsche Bank current accounts for 38 million dollars; acquisition of shares of the company Stroso Jersey for approximately 13 million dollars , subscription of bonds, issued by Time and Life sa (which was owned by Mincione) for 16 million dollars; loans to Cessina Limited (to which another Mincione real estate initiative belongs) for 20 million dollars; acquisition of 30 percent of Alex srl; acquisition of 26 units of the Tiziano San Nicola della Sorgente sgr real estate fund; acquisition of Banca Carige shares; acquisition of shares in the Banca Popolare di Milano; subscription of 3.9 million euros of bonds of the Italian company Sierra One, which had acquired the receivables claimed by Fatebenefratelli with the Lazio Region and which had undertaken to recognize the receivables from a company headed by Gianluigi Torzi, the other financier under investigation in the investigation.

The revelations

Last February, when Perlasca was summoned by the Promoters of Justice to report on his activities in the Secretariat of State and received a search order, he realized that he was in danger of being arrested. In the measure, in addition to contesting the charges of embezzlement, abuse of authority and corruption in competition with the employees of the secretariat of state and the fixers who carried out the investments, the promoters highlight that "the violation of the sovereign discipline of the administration of the funds of the State and through the exploitation of the position held in the administrative structure of the Secretariat; having used illegally and for one's own benefit and that of others the sums linked to charitable works; having received money and other benefits for the acts performed ».

A few days later he presented himself in front of the investigators and began to collaborate by reconstructing what happened and putting Monsignor Becciu at the top of the list . He talked about his role connected to fixers, about the money made to reach the brothers' businesses through a round of accounts precisely to disguise the final destination. He revealed that just ten days ago, on September 11, Apsa, the administration of the assets of the apostolic see, paid the last tranche of 45 million, out of 150, to redeem the property on Sloane Avenue . Then he opened the hottest chapter.

Blackmail

According to Perlasca, in recent years Becciu would have used some journalists and other sources to discredit his enemies. And the payment that would have been made in Australia and the possible connection with the Pell trial fall within this vein. Becciu's reply is lapidary: "Even though I sympathize with him, humanly and Christianly, for the difficult personal moment he is going through, I definitely reject any kind of allusion on phantom privileged relations with the press".

October 2, 2020 (change October 2, 2020 | 08:06)

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4c5a38 No.5845

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Pope Benedict XVI approved bishop accord with China:

Vatican AP AP, Rome, Oct 03 2020

Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/international/pope-benedict-xvi-approved-bishop-accord-with-china-vatican-896710.html

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4c5a38 No.5846

Vatican: Pope Benedict XVI approved bishop accord with China

The Vatican is doubling down on its intent to pursue continued dialogue with China over bishop nominations

By

NICOLE WINFIELD Associated Press

October 3, 2020, 3:45 AM

ROME – The Vatican doubled down Saturday on its intent to pursue continued dialogue with China over bishop nominations, defending a deal it did with the Chinese government in 2018 as necessary to the life of the Catholic Church there, over strong U.S. objections.

The Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, gave the Holy See’s most authoritative and comprehensive response to critics of the extended accord during a speech marking the 150th anniversary of the arrival in China of Catholic missionaries from an Italian religious order.

Parolin insisted that popes as far back as Pius XII had tried to reopen a path of dialogue with Beijing after the communists came to power and expelled foreign missionaries. And he confirmed that Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI had approved the draft accord that the Vatican under Pope Francis eventually signed in 2018.

Parolin’s assertion that Benedict had approved the draft is significant and was aimed at silencing some of Francis’ conservative critics, many of whom are nostalgic for Benedict's conservative papacy and have used the China agreement to undermine Francis.

The Vatican is seeking to extend the deal with China, which envisages a process of dialogue in selecting bishops. It signed it in 2018 in hopes it would help unite China’s Catholics, who for seven decades have been split between those belonging to an official, state-sanctioned church and an underground church loyal to Rome.

The question of bishop nominations has long vexed Vatican-China relations, with the Holy See insisting on the pope's divine right to name the successors of the apostles and Beijing considering such nominations foreign infringement on its sovereignty.

The Vatican has defended the 2018 accord against criticism that Francis sold out the underground faithful, saying the deal was necessary to prevent an even worse schism in the Chinese church after China named bishops without the pope's consent.

“Benedict XVI approved the draft agreement on the nomination of bishops in China that only in 2018 it was possible to sign,” Parolin said. He added that the accord only covers the nomination of bishops and does not in any way touch on other aspects of the life of the church in China, much less political issues.

He called it a “point of departure” and said it was worth extending because two years was too short a period of time to evaluate its worth.

“There have been some results, but in order for the dialogue to have more consistent fruits, it’s necessary to continue,” he said. “From the Holy See’s side, there is the will to prolong the accord on an experimental basis, as it has been done, in order to verify its use.”

It was the third time this week that Parolin has had to defend the accord, after a tense visit from U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to the Vatican. During a speech on religious liberty in Rome and in an essay penned before his arrival, Pompeo made clear U.S. objections to the accord and urged the Vatican to join the U.S. in denouncing China’s crackdown on religious and ethnic minorities, Catholics among them.

“This isn’t about the United States versus China. This is about tyranny,” Pompeo told reporters en route home from Croatia on Friday, at the end of a European trip to try to rally European support for the tough U.S. line on Beijing that has accelerated amid the coronavirus pandemic and ahead of the Nov. 3 election.

In his speech Saturday, Parolin used the occasion to acknowledge errors in the “imperialist” way some Catholic missionaries operated in the past and even the Holy See’s own decision to name only non-Chinese bishops at the start, a clear nod to decades of Chinese complaints about foreign interference by the church.

Parolin was speaking at the Milan headquarters of the Pontifical Institute of Foreign Missions, a religious order that first sent Italian missionaries to mainland China in 1870. All foreign missionaries were expelled, and diplomatic relations with the Holy See severed, after Chinese communists came to power in the 1950s.

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09b17e No.5848

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Mafia boss breaks silence over Roberto Calvi killing

This article is more than 8 years old

Godfather turned supergrass accused of murder of 'God's banker' claims case will never be solved

Tony Thompson

12 May 2012

Financier Roberto Calvi was found hanging beneath Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982. Photograph: -/AFP/Getty Images

One month before the 30th anniversary of one of London's most enduring murder mysteries, the mafia godfather at the heart of the case has spoken for the first time about why he believes the real killers of Italian financier Roberto Calvi will never be brought to justice.

Calvi, dubbed "God's banker" because of his work with the Vatican, was found hanging from scaffolding beneath Blackfriars bridge in London on 18 June 1982. Bricks had been stuffed in his pockets and he had more than £10,000 in cash on him. In the months before his death he had been accused of stealing millions being laundered on behalf of the mafia.

His death was originally ruled a suicide but later judged to be murder. In July 1991, Francesco "Frankie the Strangler" Di Carlo, a mafia godfather who had lived in England since the late 1970s, was named as Calvi's killer by a supergrass. Di Carlo has since become a supergrass himself.

Speaking from the small town in central Italy where he now lives, Di Carlo related how he first came to hear that he had been accused of Calvi's murder.

"I was in university – that's what I called the prisons in England. We were all in the association room watching television when the news came on that the killer of Calvi was Francesco Di Carlo. All the prisoners and guards looked over and stared. I just shrugged my shoulders and said that they must be talking about someone else with the same name as me."

Di Carlo seemed a likely suspect. He had arrived in the UK in the 1970s, relocating shortly after being linked to the murders of two Sicilian police officers.

He bought businesses and a palatial home but soon came under the watchful eye of British customs, who believed he had moved in order to oversee the Cosa Nostra's operations in the UK. Between 1980 and 1985 customs officers allegedly linked him to at least a dozen multimillion pound drug hauls, only a handful of which were intercepted.

In 1985 Palermo's flying squad attempted to extradite Di Carlo to Italy in connection with an earlier case. Within weeks of the request, the deputy head of the squad and a commissioner in charge of tracking down fugitives had both been shot dead.

Di Carlo was eventually linked to an attempt to smuggle £60m worth of heroin to Canada through London and was found guilty at a five-month trial at the Old Bailey, although he claims to have been the victim of a conspiracy.

The police officers escorting him to court each morning told how, as they were led from the cells, Di Carlo's co-defendants would bow and kiss his hand as they passed him, standard protocol for greeting a senior godfather figure.

Although Di Carlo denies killing Calvi, he admits that he and his mafia colleagues wanted him dead and that his boss had attempted to contact him to carry out the hit.

"I was in Rome and received a phone call from a friend in Sicily telling me that a certain high-ranking mafia member had just been killed. I will never forget the date because of this: it was 16 June 1982 – two days before Calvi was murdered. The friend told me that Pippo Calò [known as the "mafia's cashier"] was trying to get hold of me because he needed me to do something for him. In the hierarchy of Cosa Nostra, he was a general, I was a colonel, so he was a little higher up, my superior.

"While I finally spoke to Pippo, he told me not to worry, that the problem had been taken care of. That's a code we use in the Cosa Nostra. We never talk about killing someone. We say they have been taken care of.

"Calvi was naming names. No one had any trust in him any more. He owed a lot of money. His friends had all distanced themselves. Everyone wanted to get rid of him. He had been arrested and he had started to talk. Then he had tried to kill himself by cutting his wrists. He was released, but knew he could be rearrested at any time. He was weak, he was a broken man.

"I was not the one who hanged Calvi. One day I may write the full story, but the real killers will never be brought to justice because they are being protected by the Italian state, by members of the P2 masonic lodge. They have massive power. They are made up of a mixture of politicians, bank presidents, the military, top security and so on. This is a case that they continue to open and close again and again but it will never be resolved. The higher you go, the less evidence you will find."

Di Carlo became disillusioned with the direction the organisation was taking, deciding to become a supergrass.

"My grandfather was the first to be in the Cosa Nostra and the rest of my family followed. Back then the system was different. We were a guarantee for people who had no justice, we were there for the defence of the weak.

"We were not against the state, we were a state within the state. We had solicitors, doctors, ministers. We would get the politicians elected and we would command them. And we made a comfortable living. There were rules. You could not kill women or children or innocents. You could not kill journalists because they were just doing their job.

"If you wanted to kill someone, there had to be a reason. They had to be harming the organisation. You could kill a policeman because he was lying about you, but not for doing his job. You kill one, another comes along, so what have you achieved? Nothing.

"But then things started to change. Drug trafficking came in and made people very rich. People had too much money and power. The scruples were lost. Magistrates were being bombed along with women and children. It wasn't Cosa Nostra any more, it was Cosa Monster. I didn't want to be a part of that so I decided to turn. My life now is very different, very quiet, but I am happy."

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09b17e No.5849

Aug 23, 2019

When The Apparent Suicide Of ‘God’s Banker,’ Roberto Calvi, Was Ruled A Murder

Sofia Lotto Persio

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sofialottopersio/2019/08/23/when-the-apparent-suicide-of-gods-banker-roberto-calvi-was-ruled-a-murder/#38dc27a81cd4

It was described as a scene straight out of an Alfred Hitchcock film: The man’s corpse dangled from an orange nylon rope tied to scaffolding under London’s Blackfriars Bridge. He was dressed in a gray suit with a white waistcoat and a blue-striped shirt. He wore shoes and socks, but no tie or belt. An expensive watch on his wrist was stopped at 1:52 a.m. And nearly 12 pounds’ worth of pieces of bricks were stuffed in his trousers.

A young postal clerk had made the grim discovery on his way to work on the morning of June 18, 1982, and alerted the police. Officers who examined the body found a wallet containing around $13,000 in various currencies—Italian lire, Austrian schillings, American dollars, Swiss francs—and a passport bearing the name Gian Roberto Calvini.

That passport was forged, but the body was soon identified as 62-year-old Roberto Calvi, president of the Milan-based Banco Ambrosiano, one of Italy’s largest private banks, with ties so close to the Vatican that Calvi had the unofficial title of “God’s banker.” He had gone missing from Italy the previous week. So how did he turn up dead under a bridge in the British capital?

London’s Blackfriars Bridge (L). Three of the jurors on the inquest of Italian banker Roberto Calvi, whose corpse was found hanging from the bridge (R).

London’s Blackfriars Bridge (L). Three of the jurors on the inquest of Italian banker Roberto Calvi, whose corpse was found hanging from the bridge (R). PA Images/Getty Images

The mystery of what really happened to Calvi would extend for decades, and involve not only the Vatican but also mafiosi, the Masons, British secret service and a small army of amateur conspiracy theorists gripped by the story.

The company you keep

Calvi had been a prominent figure in Italian financial news for years—particularly since November 13, 1977, when Milan woke up to banners plastered across the city alleging irregularities at Calvi’s Banco Ambrosiano.

No one becomes Italy’s most powerful private banker without having to make powerful allies along the way, and Calvi was no exception. His network of connections encompassed, among others, high-ranking Vatican officials, Masonic leaders and others linked to organized crime. But when Calvi joined the Banco Ambrosiano as a clerk at just 27, the bank was a risk-averse institution. Founded in 1896 to offer credit in line with Christian ethics and beliefs, the bank at one point required anyone who wanted to deposit money to first provide a baptismal certificate.

Calvi, though, had international ambitions and, by the time he had climbed his way to become president, in 1975, had led the bank to acquire Swiss bank Banca del Gottardo and founded several offshore companies, such as the Banco Ambrosiano in Luxembourg and the Cisalpine Overseas Bank in the Bahamas.

Through his role, Calvi forged close ties with Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, the Chicago-born chairman of the Vatican’s Institute for Religious Works (IOR), which holds the bank accounts of priests, bishops, cardinals and even the Pope, and was a major, though secretive, shareholder of Banco Ambrosiano. Marcinkus was seen as a close confidant to Pope Paul VI, whom he helped save from a knife attack in the Philippines in 1970.

Not all of Marcinkus’s connections were equally blessed. He had links to financier Michele Sindona, who had advised the IOR on assets and investments, including a minority interest in Sindona’s own Banca Unione. Banca Unione then merged with another one of Sindona’s banks, Banca Privata Italiana, which was then forcibly liquidated in 1974.

When Sindona’s empire collapsed, it reportedly cost the Vatican $30 million, and the financier would be jailed in a U.S. federal prison for conspiracy and fraud in 1980 for his role in the 1974 failure of the Franklin National Bank. (He died in prison in 1986 after his coffee was spiked with cyanide.)

It was rumored that Sindona had ordered those 1977 banners publicly accusing Calvi’s Banco Ambrosiano of irregularities, an act of revenge after being denied funds to save his failing banks.

Calvi at his trial in May 1981, where he faced charges of illegal exporting of funds. He was later convicted. Ketstone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images

An investigation resulting from that anonymous, and very public, tip led to Calvi’s eventual arrest, on May 20, 1981, amid a ballooning scandal linked to the secretive Masons that had embroiled the Italian elite and eventually caused the fall of the government of Prime Minister Arnaldo Forlani.

The ‘black friars’

Sindona and Calvi had known each other since the late 1960s and were both members of the Masonic lodge known as Propaganda Due (P-2), led by Licio Gelli, a self-declared fascist who aimed to fight Communist forces at home and abroad while sparking a breakdown of constitutional order in Italy.

Cavali trial 1980s

A man climbs up the scaffold in order to better watch Calvi's trial in May 1981. Adriano Alecchi/Mondadori/Getty Images

A list of nearly 1,000 reported P-2 members—who reportedly called themselves “frati neri,” meaning “black friars,” as they wore black robes to their meetings—was found in one of Gelli’s properties during part of a larger investigation into Sindona, who had allegedly faked his own kidnapping with the help of some Masonic-lodge members to avoid trial in New York. As a result, when the list—which included government ministers, lawmakers, judges, high-ranking members of the army and police forces, journalists and businessmen such as future prime minister Silvio Berlusconi—became public, it had an explosive effect in the country, and on the people named on it.

And it left Calvi, for the first time in his career, without political protection. In 1981, he would stand trial on charges of illegal currency dealings concerning the equivalent of $50 million worth of foreign transactions in lire made without alerting the Bank of Italy, as required by law.

He insisted he was innocent, and as he awaited trial, he tried to kill himself in prison. His widow, Clara Canetti—who would later blame the Vatican in the death of her husband—said he would tell her: “This trial is called IOR,” suggesting that the illegal transactions had been to benefit the Vatican accounts. He was eventually convicted, and sentenced to prison for four years.

Suddenly, Calvi disappears

Calvi filed for an appeal and was set free while awaiting the new trial, resuming his job at the Banco Ambrosiano. But by June 1982, Calvi was running out of time.

Banco Ambrosiano was allowed to trade on the Milan Stock Exchange to force the bank to be more transparent, but on the first day of trading, May 5, it lost 20% of its value.

Italy's central bank put pressure on Calvi to account for the bank’s nine-figure debt. The date of his appeal hearing, June 21, loomed.

Roberto Calvi

Calvi in 1982. AP

Calvi needed help, and decided to appeal directly to Pope John Paul II. In a typewritten letter signed by Calvi, dated June 5, 1982, the banker told the Pope he was his “last hope” to avoid the bank’s crash and the damages the Vatican would suffer as a consequence. Calvi asked the Pope for an audience to explain “everything that has happened and is happening, certainly without His knowledge.” He offered a summary of the dealings he’d been involved with and seemed to throw Archbishop Marcinkus under the bus along the way, referring to “the heavy burden of the mistakes made by the current and former representatives of the IOR, including Sindona’s wrongdoings.”

He also acknowledged his role in financing “political-religious organizations in the East and the West” and in coordinating, “in consultation with Vatican authorities,” financial entities in Latin America with the goal of “fighting and containing philomarxist ideologies.”

Calvi told the Pope that he had received offers of support on the condition he detailed the activities “undertaken in the interests of the Church.” But, Calvi added: “I won’t be blackmailed, and I won’t blackmail in return; I have always been loyal even when it’s most dangerous!”

The illegal transactions that ultimately brought down Banco Ambrosiano were the tip of the iceberg of illicit activities Calvi had been embroiled in. As investigators would later find, Calvi’s Banco Ambrosiano had set up a complex system of borrowing and lending through the bank’s offshore subsidiaries. And benefiting from the fraudulent ventures were authoritarian regimes in Latin America, the anti-Soviet Solidarity movement in Poland and the Mafia’s heroin trade.

(1) The New York Times, and (2) l'Unita report on the Calvi's mysterious death.

The specific role of the Vatican in Banco Ambrosiano’s eventual crash remains shrouded in mystery. Marcinkus, who managed the Vatican’s funds, has always denied any wrongdoing, though he was indicted in 1987 by Italian authorities as an “accessory to fraudulent bankruptcy” in the bank’s collapse, following the discovery of a number of “letters of patronage” apparently backing the offshore companies used to funnel Banco Ambrosiano’s money. Marcinkus never faced trial because Italy’s highest courts ruled that the IOR, as an entity belonging to the Roman Catholic Church, was outside the jurisdiction of Italian authorities under the terms of the 1929 Lateran Treaty.

High-ranking Vatican cardinal José Castillo Lara said the Pope never received Calvi’s letter, and described the missive as “statements made by a man struggling due to debts contracted elsewhere and unclear financial dealings.”

But with no help forthcoming from the Vatican—and with the protection of the P-2 lost—Calvi was left to leverage another connection: Flavio Carboni, a well-connected Sardinian entrepreneur who had ties to criminal organizations in Rome, such as the infamous Banda Della Magliana, and in Sicily, via Pippo Calò, known as the Mafia’s cashier. It’s with Carboni’s help that Calvi, whose real passport had long ago been confiscated, disappeared—fleeing Italy and embarking on the convoluted journey that took him to London.

Flavio Carboni

Flavio Carboni (shown in court in March 1996) had helped Calvi leave Italy. Years later, he was investigated for his murder. Luca Bruno/AP

Carboni introduced the banker to his associate Silvano Vittor, who smuggled Calvi from Trieste to Yugoslavia by motorboat, then from Yugoslavia to Austria by car. After meeting Carboni in a town in Austria near the Swiss border, Calvi and Vittor headed to Innsbruck, where they boarded a private plane that would take them to London on June 15. Calvi had shaved off his trademark mustache, possibly in an attempt to better disguise himself.

Throughout the trip, Calvi had reportedly carried a black briefcase full of possibly incriminating documents that later went missing, some of which would never be recovered. Carboni would later be charged with, and then acquitted of, selling the briefcase to a high-ranking IOR official.

London was not meant to be the final destination of the journey. Calvi apparently planned to travel across the Atlantic. His wife had already moved to Washington, D.C, and he told his daughter, who was in Switzerland, to do the same. In a phone conversation with his daughter the day before he died, he told her: "Something really important is happening, and today and tomorrow all hell is going to break loose." He was right.

That day, June 17, the bank’s board voted to remove the missing Calvi as president and dissolve itself, asking Italy’s central bank to nominate a commissioner to deal with its affairs. The bank’s trading on the stock exchange had to be suspended after shares lost 30% of their value. It would be found to have around $1.4 billion debt.

On the same day, Calvi’s long-term personal secretary, Graziella Corrocher, fell to her death from a window of the bank’s Milan headquarters, an apparent suicide (though consipiracy theories, naturally, abound). She had reportedly left a note saying: “May Calvi be double cursed for the damage he has caused the bank and all its employees.”

The next day, Calvi’s own body would be found about 700 miles away.

Too many suspects

British authorities ruled Calvi’s death a suicide and dismissed the hypothesis of murder. Calvi had, after all, previously attempted to kill himself, while awaiting trial in prison in 1981.

But obvious questions would quickly emerge. For the 62-year-old Calvi to get to the scaffolding by himself, he would have had to climb down the bridge from a ladder, jump a distance between the ladder and the scaffolding, all while weighted down by 12 pounds of bricks. And, as many wondered at the time, why bother to go to London to do that?

Calvi’s family insisted that he had been killed and, in less than a year, they successfully challenged the verdict ruling Calvi’s death a suicide. But it wouldn’t be until 2002 that forensic experts conclusively ruled Calvi’s death a murder. The following year, the City of London police reopened an investigation in Calvi’s death as a murder inquiry, bringing forth new information about what Calvi did and who was with him in his final days.

Clara Calvi

Clara Calvi successfully lobbied to have authorities reopen the investigation into her husband's death. Reg Lancaster/Express Newspapers/Getty Images

Detective Superintendent Trevor Smith, who led the investigation, told The Independent in 2004 that police believed Calvi was strangled on a boat along the Thames, and was then hanged—dead or barely alive—from the scaffolding. "The scientific and medical evidence says 'not suicide.' So it was either an act of God or someone who wants to pretend he is God with the power of life and death. I'm satisfied it is the latter,” he said.

Both British and Italian authorities concluded it was the Mafia that wanted and planned Calvi’s death—a theory reinforced in 2012 by godfather turned informant Francesco “Frankie the Strangler” Di Carlo—due to the banker’s involvement in the criminal organization’s money-laundering and the possibility he may disclose details of the scheme to the authorities.

Five people were charged in 2003 with Calvi’s death: Carboni, Vittor, Calò and his Rome associate Ernesto Diotallevi, and Carboni's Austrian ex-girlfriend, Manuela Kleinszig. Prosecutors asked for life sentences for the four men and acquittal for Kleinszig for insufficient evidence. They were all acquitted for lack of evidence in 2007. An appeal in 2010 upheld the acquittal.

Pippo Calo

Alleged mafia boss Pippo Calo, shown behind bars in 1993,. was one of the four people indicted on murder charges in connection with the death of Calvi. He was acquitted. Giulio Broglio/AP

The ruling did, though, confirm Calvi was killed. But by whom, the judges ruled, they could not tell, the ruling listing instead all the possible suspects: the Mafia, the Camorra, the P-2, Vatican’s investment arm, Italian politicians, Italian secret-service members and even British secret services, since Calvi had financed weapons to the Argentine regime during the Falkland wars.

A second, and last, probe into Calvi’s death, involving Carboni, Gelli, members of the Italian secret services and mobsters from the Camorra, was launched in 2008 and ultimately ended in 2016. Judges cited the length of time elapsed since the killing and the lack of support from the Vatican among the obstacles to bringing the guilty to justice. Unlike in a Hitchcock film, this mystery remains frustratingly unresolved.

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09b17e No.5850

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BCCI – The biggest KNOWN bank fraud

And the Web of Global Corruption

https://www.maier-files.com/bcci-the-biggest-known-bank-fraud/

The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a useful tool for many powerful clients, ranging from the CIA and the Medellín cartel to Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda, and influential figures in both the Republican and Democratic parties of the USA. When BCCI was finally shut down, as much as $15 billion had been lost or stolen—the biggest publicly known bank fraud in the world. …

I don't know that there's any connection between the BCCI scandal and the Vatican. Nothing comes up in web search. My memory on this may be faulty.

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09b17e No.5851

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The Vatican’s new corruption scandal

By JD Flynn

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/the-vaticans-new-corruption-scandal/

October 23, 2019

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Jesus told his disciples: “Nothing is hid that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.” The teaching is playing out in real time at the Vatican, the heart of the church founded by the Nazarene.

Prosecutors and gendarmerie staged a raid this month into the usually serene offices of the Vatican’s Secretariat of State, seizing computers and caches of documents from archives and employees. Two weeks later, the longtime head of Pope Francis’ security service resigned after leaked ­reports of alleged financial wrongdoing in the Vatican.

Reports have emerged detailing the movement of Vatican money through slush funds across Europe — and a Vatican investment of more than $250 million into luxury London apartments, brokered through a ­financier who profited even while the Vatican’s investment tanked.

Italian media also report that Vatican officials contemplated ­investing hundreds of millions in Angolan oil fields — money that comes mostly from an annual collection intended to support papal charities. Per the Italian reports, prosecutors have also found evidence of embezzlement, fraud, abuse of office and money-laundering among the Vatican’s upper echelon of managers.

A first round of indictments in a Vatican City state court is expected to be handed down soon. Red-hatted princes of the church may eventually be implicated.

All of this, of course, sounds like a plot recycled from “The Godfather Part III.” Financial scandal at the Vatican is nothing new. The Vatican’s official bank has faced repeated crises since it was founded in 1942, and the bank itself was created to curtail fiscal irregularity.

But when Pope Francis was elected in 2013, it was with a mandate to clean up finances. His efforts began well: The pope regularized accounting procedures, committed to European anti-corruption standards, and by 2016, the Vatican had contracted the global accounting giant PriceWaterhouseCoopers to conduct the first serious external audit in its history.

But the pope’s reform project was stymied at every turn by seasoned Vatican bureaucrats with more ­influence and support than the group tasked with reforming their bureaucracy. A powerful Vatican official, Archbishop Giovanni Becciu, unilaterally canceled the planned audit in April 2016. The next year, the Vatican’s auditor-general was forced out, allegedly after he discovered financial improprieties on the part of his superiors.

see also

Catholic-haters have just convicted an innocent cardinal

The figure who made the most progress on reining in Vatican graft — George Cardinal Pell — now sits in an Australian prison, after he was convicted of sexual abuse in a trial many Australian ­jurists found deeply suspect.

Supporters of Francis’ efforts argue that this month’s raid, and the trials likely to commence soon, are evidence that the pontiff’s reform initiative is working. Then again, there’s the timing of the raid — ahead of the publication this week of an Italian journalist’s book detailing a much larger web of financial scandals at the Vatican.

In light of the book, spinning the raid as a good sign isn’t easy.

A financial scandal comes at a terrible time for the Catholic Church. While the church grows in the developing world, religious practice is declining in the United States and Europe, and the Catholic Church is especially feeling the effect. Last year’s Theodore McCarrick sexual scandal ignited a firestorm for the Roman church, leaving many Catholics in the West distrustful of hierarchs at home and in Rome.

But the sexual-abuse scandal also points to the path forward for the church on financial reform: transparency and accountability. US Catholic bishops have learned that their parishioners expect them to tell the unvarnished truth about past misdeeds and present crises — and likewise expect them to be accountable to outside auditors and experts. Sunlight, as the saying goes, is the best disinfectant.

Transparency is uncomfortable for a 2,000-year-old institution accustomed to governing itself. But it has become necessary for the Catholic Church. If saving souls is more important to Vatican bureaucrats than saving face, the church must soon open her ledgers to experts — with full transparency about the results.

The path of reform called for by Pope Francis and charted by Cardinal Pell must continue, regardless of the opposition.

JD Flynn is editor-in-chief of the Catholic News Agency. Twitter: @JDFlynn

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09b17e No.5852

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The Vatican Bank

https://www.relbanks.com/europe/italy/vatican-bank

The Vatican Bank (Istituto per le Opere di Religione (IOR), Banca Vaticana) was founded on June 27, 1942 by Pope Pius XII and is located inside the Vatican City. Only Church institutions, dioceses, diplomats and Vatican employees/pensioners are allowed to open accounts in the Bank - which you'd think would make it the most moral bank in the world. The company provides a range of financial services including asset management, deposit and pension products, custodial functions and international payment transfers. There are no anonymous accounts. The Bank does not provide loans and does not offer internet-based services. It is not a bank in the normal definition of the term. In fact, it doesn't lend money or act as a consultant to businesses. It is more a fund deposit and transfer financial institution than a bank. The IOR doesn't invest in the stock market, though it operates on the currency or bond market, or buy gold. To trade in markets it must go through other banks, such as Credito Valtellinese. The Bank is run by a professional bank CEO who reports directly to a committee of cardinals, and ultimately to the Pope. Its assets are not considered property of the Holy See and it is not overseen by the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy, instead it's considered a charitable foundation affiliated with the Vatican. The Institute was involved in a major political and financial scandal in the 1980s, concerning the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano, of which it was a major shareholder. The head of the Vatican Bank from 1971 to 1989, Father Paul Marcinkus, was under consideration for indictment in 1982 as an accessory of the bankruptcy. In 2010, Benedict XVI established the Financial Information Authority as an independent agency to monitor the financial activities of the Vatican Bank and other Vatican-related institutions. The Bank's President, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was removed from his post in May 2012, for dereliction of duty. The current President of IOR is Jean-Baptiste de Franssu, a French financier. The Bank’s gold is deposited with the US Federal Reserve, and precious coins and medals are kept in the IOR vaults. In June 2017, the Vatican Bank released its annual report. The Institute for Religious Works (IOR) has EUR 5.7 billion in total client assets and serves 14,960 clients of which about 4,300 Catholic Institutions and 10,700 individuals.


Financials:
2016 2015
Profit for the year, €m 36.001 16.127
Total assets, €b 3.269 3.204
Number of customers 14,960 14,801
Number of employees 102 109

IOR Organization:

- Commissione Cardinalizia (Supervisory Commission of Cardinals) is composed of five cardinals appointed by the Pope.

- Prelato (Prelate) is appointed by the Cardinals’ Commission.

- Consiglio di Sovrintendenza (Board of Superintendence) is responsible for the administration and management of the Institute. It is appointed by the Cardinals’ Commission and is composed of five members, who serve for five years.

- Direzione

- Revisori (Auditors)

November 30, 2017

Giulio Mattietti, Vatican Bank’s Deputy Director was removed from his position for unknown reasons.

Head office address:

Cortile Sisto V

00120 Vatican City

Vatican City State

Phone number: +39 06 698 83 354

Opening Hours: Monday - Friday, 8.00 am - 16.30 pm

Identifier Code: IOPRVAVX

Website: www.ior.va

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09b17e No.5853

Friday, November 4, 2016

WikiLeaks Bombshell: The Soros/Clinton/Vatican Partnership Featured

Written by Elizabeth Yore

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/2853-wikileaks-bombshell-george-soros-using-francis-papacy

* article contains links which lead to further potential sauce *

Thanks to WikiLeaks, we learn that in preparation for the U.S. Papal September visit, the Vatican proactively sought input from the most radical fringe of the Democratic Left. Is this Pope Francis’ idea of his peaceful ‘dialogue and encounter?

All roads to the Francis Vatican lead back to George Soros.

The secret roadmap is provided by both the WikiLeaks’ release of John Podesta emails and DCLeaks documents from George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. These emails corroborate that Soros operatives are collaborating with top Vatican cardinals, at the behest of George Soros.

In August 2016, DCLeaks documents hacked from Soros’ Open Society, exposed the $650,000 Soros grant to PICO, a radical organization of community organizers for the express purpose to travel to the Vatican for strategy meetings in anticipation of the 2016 election.

What ever happened at the Soros-funded Vatican meeting?

Not surprisingly, the outcome of the PICO 3-day Vatican meeting suddenly materialized in the WikiLeaks emails of John Podesta inbox. A detailed report on the critical PICO/Vatican trip would certainly be of critical interest to the Chairman of the Clinton Presidential Campaign, underscoring the Soros/Clinton/Vatican partnership. (Full disclosure: Soros gave $25 million to the Clinton presidential campaign and Podesta previously chaired the Soros’ Center for American Progress). And, indeed, the meeting notes disclose valuable insight and intelligence about the leftist cabal at work in the Vatican.

WikiLeaks pulls back the curtain on the radicals entrenched in the Francis papacy. The PICO Vatican meeting was not simply a brisk cursory papal meet and greet. Rather, documents reveal that Alinsky activists were invited, welcomed, and dined in intense strategy sessions with high level Vatican cardinals. The leaked emails expose the leftist political machinations behind the Francis papacy, where the Soros-funded community organizers coordinated radical messaging with high level papal cardinal confidantes.

Why would Soros underwrite this Vatican trip? It is obviously a wise investment with long term benefits.

The Podesta email cache reinforces the ongoing collaboration of Soros globalists with Francis and his papal minions. From the moment of Bergoglio’s papal elevation, George Soros identified Bergoglio as a kindred spirit, a radical globalist, with the much sought after authority and moral voice of the Catholic Church. Pope Francis shares Soros’ world view: climate change, mass migration, income inequality, globalism, and capitalism bashing.

Within weeks of the new Francis papacy, Jeffrey Sachs—a longtime member of George Soros’ brain trust, also a recipient of $50 million of Soros funds, and top UN official—was invited to and featured as the Vatican’s premiere expert on the radical climate change agenda.

As indication of his favored status, Sachs spoke at the Vatican 18 times during the first years of Francis papacy. Sachs orchestrated the UN/Vatican alliance on climate change and assured the Pope Francis seal of approval on the UN Sustainable Development Goals and Paris Climate Treaty, inaugurating the globalist agenda. Several Soros confidantes and advisors, are firmly entrenched at the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences promoting the UN/Soros environmental globalist agenda, and the anti-capitalist Occupy Wall Street protests.

The WikiLeaks Podesta emails reveal that the Vatican solicited advice from, and collaborated with leftist community organizers to advance the political platform of the Democratic party. Soros strategically funded PICO progressive activists who appear to serve as de facto advance men for the upcoming Pope’s U.S. trip, by discussing papal site visits and political messaging with key Vatican hierarchy.

With the daily cascade of WikiLeaks from John Podesta emails, the Vatican is further unmasked as a sympathizer of the American radical left. The Podesta emails expose the extremist collaborators in power and control in the Francis papacy. From 6/22/15 WikiLeaks-Recap to John Podesta about the Soros-Pico Vatican junket:

“Our team included several PICO African-American pastors deeply involved in Black Lives Matter (BLM)(Soros funds BLM $33 million in one year, ed.) including a Pastor from St. Louis who is on the Ferguson commission; Rev. Alvin Herring, our Deputy Director, who has worked closely with clergy in Baltimore; a DREAMer from Florida; a priest from California who was formerly undocumented himself; a Black Catholic Deacon who is leading our work on mass incarceration in New Orleans; and two workers from SEIU helping to lead the Fight for 15 workers”

Soros dispatched his social justice community PICO activists to the Vatican with orders to shape and frame the Pope’s message to Americans. Among the PICO activists in the Vatican delegation was Pastor Michael McBride, who was arrested in Ferguson protesting the phony trumped up mythical drumbeat of police brutality against the not so “gentle giant” Michael Brown. The discussion with the top officials at the Vatican over three days of meetings centered on the leftist agenda:

“We conveyed our view that the Pope is a World leader of historical significance; that his message of exclusion, alarm over rising inequality and concern about globalized indifference is important for the U.S. to hear and see animated during his visit; and that we intend to amplify his remarks so that we have a more profound moral dialogue about policy choices through the election cycle of 2016.”

Strikingly, the underlying purpose of the Vatican trip in the report to Clinton Campaign Chairman Podesta is that the delegation reinforced to Vatican officials the 2016 Democratic election talking points. PICO, on instructions from Soros, sought to bang the drumbeat of racial animus, discontent, inequality, and exclusion with the Vatican Curia and Francis speechwriters.

The email confirms that Pope Francis will underscore a strategy of similar themes and messages promulgated from PICO activists:

“[O]ur visit affirmed an overall strategy: Pope Francis, as a leader of global stature, will challenge the “idolatry of the marketplace” in the U.S. and offer a clarion call to change the policies that promote exclusion and indifference to those most marginalized.”

The PICO delegation provided stories of injustice and inequality to the Vatican curia. Imagine the race-baiting Ferguson protestors regaling Vatican officials with tales of rampant police brutality and the murder of Michael Brown and other innocent black men! Did the Francis Cardinals even bother to check the outcome of the trumped up Ferguson police brutality charges? Unlikely.

“In our meetings with relevant officials, we strongly recommended that the Pope emphasize – in words and deeds – the need to confront racism and racial hierarchy in the US. Conversations that were originally scheduled for thirty minutes stretched into two hour dialogues.”

Alleluia! Sounds like everyone was singing from the same Kumbaya racial discrimination hymnal. How ecumenical of the Vatican to dialogue with Black Lives Matter activists! Did the economic “idolatry of the marketplace” include the $33 million that George Soros provided to BLM protests? Doubt it.

As in our breakfast conversation with Cardinal Rodríguez, senior Vatican officials shared profound insights demonstrating an awareness of the moral, economic and political climate in America.”

Clearly, the Vice Pope (#2 at the Vatican) Cardinal Maradiaga Rodriguez promotes and shares the messaging from the community organizers of the American left. While providing input for the Pope’s upcoming U.S. visit, the Vatican and PICO delegation agreed that Pope Francis would visit a prison during his trip to the United States. Not surprisingly, during his stopover in Philadelphia, the Pope Francis visited a prison!

We were encouraged to believe that the Pope will confront race through a moral frame. We were told that the Pope will visit a prison while here – demonstrating his concern about incarceration.”

The Soros marching orders for the PICO delegation was to hatch, implement, and coordinate Pope Francis’ strategic themes and events during his U.S. visit in September 2015. The Vatican agreed to position the Pope’s message in alignment with the Soros funded Alinskyites’ radical agenda. As any political operative knows, race baiting ensures that the African-American voting bloc is energized to vote Democratic. WikiLeaks unmasks the Francis Church where community organizers are consulted as advance men for the U.S. papal visit providing Francis with speech themes from the radical left.

The WikiLeaks Podesta email continues:

“This is why we gathered at the Vatican in mid-June, at the encouragement of Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, often referred to as the "Vice Pope" and a strong supporter of PICO, who had urged us to share our stories, our perspective, and our hopes for the impact of Pope Francis' visit to the United States, with Vatican officials.”

So, thanks to WikiLeaks, we learn that in preparation for the U.S. Papal September visit, the Vatican proactively seeks input from the most radical fringe of the Democratic Left, which fomented violence and anarchy in the streets over a faux police brutality charge and racial killing charge in Ferguson. Is this Pope Francis’ idea of his peaceful ‘dialogue and encounter?

The PICO/Vatican Radical Alliance Continues in Bolivia

turkson

Cardinal Turkson with PICO delegation at World Movements in Bolivia

The Podesta email discussed that PICO and the Vatican would agree to keep dialoguing about social justice issues at the July 2015 World Meeting of Movements in Bolivia where Pope Francis would speak to global political activists. The PICO delegation received a personal invite from the Vatican to attend the World Meeting of Movements. PICO did attend the Bolivian meeting, along with their Vatican comrades, Cardinals Turkson and Maradiaga and Pope Francis.

The PICO Bolivia trip to the World Meeting of Movements even afforded the PICO delegation the opportunity to share the podium with the Pope, as Francis focused on the obtuse beatitude of “environmental dignity.” Social justi ce activists, like PICO, can quickly adapt and pivot from police brutality and racial inequality to echo Francis concerns about “the impact of climate change on thousands of families.”

While in Bolivia at the World Meeting of Movements, Pope Francis received a revolving gift from Bolivian President Evo Morales, the radical socialist activist. Morales gave the Pope a crucifix swathed with a blasphemous communist hammer and sickle. Catholics were scandalized and horrified over this profanation and politicization of the most precious symbol of Catholicism. Apparently, the Vatican took no offense at the gift because President Morales was invited to the Vatican to share the podium with another socialist, Bernie Sanders in April 2016.

Welcome to Francis Church where Jesuitical political action replaced the mundane and tedious teaching of the salvation of souls. The faded and threadbare Bernardin seamless garment of social justice is resurrected from mothballs by the troubling alliance of the Soros global network and the Francis Church. It’s time to guard your faith and your wallet.

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09b17e No.5854

Gay Priests, Secret Rules and the Abuse of Nuns: Some of the Vatican Controversies as Bishops Meet

By Megan Specia

Feb. 21, 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/world/europe/catholic-church-sex-abuse.html

A series of scandals will be looming large in the eyes of church leaders and Vatican watchers alike when a highly anticipated conference on child abuse in the Roman Catholic Church begins on Thursday.

The meeting was called to address decades of abuse disclosures that have rattled the church, eroded trust in its leadership and driven away some of the faithful.

The gathering is intended to be a moment to realign and move forward, and before it began, in what many saw as a significant step, the Vatican expelled Theodore E. McCarrick, a former cardinal and archbishop of Washington, from the priesthood. It was the first time any cardinal has been defrocked for sexual abuse.

But while the church expressed hope that the four-day meeting of 190 participants from across the world, including Pope Francis, would mark a turning point, there is a risk that fresh controversies may overshadow it.

Here is a look at some of them.

Gay priests are starting to speak out.

The accusations that Mr. McCarrick, as an archbishop, had abused his seminary students and young priests — and not only children — caused some Catholic conservatives to call for the expulsion of gay men from the priesthood.

Despite repeated studies showing no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia, some Catholic bishops and conservative church media outlets have laid the blame for the sexual abuse on homosexuality inside the church.

Now, gay priests are increasingly speaking out, demanding recognition both of their role in the church and the fact that their sexual orientation has no connection to the abuse perpetrated by others.

Though fewer than about 10 priests in the United States have come out publicly, gay priests and researchers estimate that gay men probably make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the Catholic clergy in the United States. Like all Catholic priests, they take a vow of celibacy.

Two dozen priests and seminarians from 13 states shared details of their lives as gay men within the church with The New York Times. They offered a look at a life in the shadows that some said was less like a closet than a jail.

Pope Francis once famously signaled more openness to gay priests when he said, “Who am I to judge?” But since then he has seemed to reverse course. Last year, Francis called homosexuality “fashionable” and recommended that men with “this deep-seated tendency” not be accepted into the priesthood.

In the Netherlands this week, a group of gay priests made public a letter sent to Francis late last year calling out the church’s stance on homosexuality in the priesthood. It said Vatican leaders “tend to suggest that those priests who are openly gay are the ones responsible for the sexual abuse of children and minors,” and asked for a rethinking of the policies around gay priests.

The debate promises to make its way into the bishop meetings.

The Vatican has guidelines for priests who father children.

While Catholic priests make a commitment to a life of celibacy, the Vatican has an internal protocol for dealing with the children of those who violate that vow. The Times made it public this week.

The Vatican confirmed that its department overseeing Catholic priests globally has general guidelines for what to do when clerics father children.

Sometimes the children are born from relationships between priests and women in the community — or nuns. But other children are the consequence of rape.

The internal church document, which is from 2017, lays out guidelines for the “protection of the child,” a Vatican spokesman said.

And though it requests that priests leave the church if they father children, there is no requirement that they do so.

Some believe this may become the newest scandal to rock the church. Advocates for “children of the ordained,” as the church calls them, anticipate that many more cases will be revealed, though there is no clear sense of how many children have been fathered by priests.

Nuns, too, have been abused, the pope says.

Pope Francis for the first time said that priests and bishops in the Catholic Church had sexually abused nuns, and that some priests had been suspended.CreditCredit…Vatican Media

This month, Pope Francis acknowledged for the first time the abuse of nuns at the hands of priests and other church officials, something he said was an ongoing problem. The issue has long been overshadowed by other scandals within the church, but the pontiff’s admission may change that.

While advocates for victims applauded the pope’s comments, it is unclear what the church plans to do about the problem. It is also unclear how widespread the abuse is.

There have been many accounts of nuns being abused in Africa and India. Nuns who are financially dependent on priests or bishops in positions of power are especially vulnerable to attack.

In the Indian state of Kerala, a prominent bishop is facing charges that he repeatedly raped a nun. The bishop, Franco Mulakkal, has denied the accusations, but dozens of nuns signed a letter urging the Vatican to remove him.

And still more nuns have stepped forward to report sexual abuse at the hands of priests, the police in Kerala say.

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09b17e No.5855

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-the-holy-see/

U.S. Relations With the Holy See

Bilateral Relations Fact Sheet

U.S. Department of State

Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs

August 27, 2020

More information about the Holy See is available on the Holy See Page and from other Department of State publications and other sources listed at the end of this fact sheet.

U.S.-HOLY SEE RELATIONS

The Holy See is the universal government of the Catholic Church and operates from Vatican City State, a sovereign, independent territory. The Pope is the ruler of both Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law. The United States and the Holy See consult and cooperate on international issues of mutual interest, including human rights, peace and conflict prevention, poverty eradication and development, environmental protection, and inter-religious understanding. Since his inauguration, Pope Francis has acted as a global advocate for human dignity and justice, placing particular emphasis on the moral imperative of caring for the poor and marginalized. The United States and the Holy See enjoy a positive relationship that serves to amplify a global message of peace, freedom, and justice. The United States and the Holy See work together on shared priorities, such as promoting religious freedom and combating human trafficking.

The United States maintained consular relations with the Papal States from 1797 to 1870 and diplomatic relations with the Pope, in his capacity as head of the Papal States, from 1848 to 1868, though not at the ambassadorial level. These relations lapsed in 1870 with the loss of all papal territories during the unification of Italy. The Vatican City State’s territorial independence was reestablished in the Lateran Treaty signed by Italy and the Holy See in 1929. From 1870 to 1984, the United States did not have diplomatic relations with the Holy See. Several U.S. presidents, however, designated personal envoys to visit the Holy See periodically for discussions of international humanitarian and political issues. The United States and the Holy See announced the establishment of diplomatic relations in 1984.

U.S. Assistance to the Holy See

The United States provides no development assistance to the Holy See.

Bilateral Economic Relations

The United States has no significant trade or investment with the Holy See.

The Holy See’s Membership in International Organizations

The Holy See and the United States both are members of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The Holy See also is an observer to a number of international organizations of which the United States is a member, including the United Nations, Organization of American States, and World Trade Organization.

Bilateral Representation

The U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See is Callista L. Gingrich; other principal embassy officials are listed in the Department’s Key Officers List.

The Holy See maintains an Apostolic Nunciature, the equivalent of an embassy, in the United States at 3339 Massachusetts Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20008, tel. (202) 333-7121.

More information about the Holy See is available from the Department of State and other sources, some of which are listed here:

CIA World Factbook Holy See Page

U.S. Embassy

History of U.S. Relations With the Holy See

U.S. Census Bureau Foreign Trade Statistics (see Vatican City)

Travel Information

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09b17e No.5856

This one is very long but sort of ties together some of the allegations of financial improprieties and corruption that articles above have hinted at. There are LOTS of sauces at the end.

The Undertold Story: The Vatican, the Mob, Super Ponzi Schemes and MORE

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/02/the-understold-story-the-vatican-the-mob-super-ponzi-schemes-and-more/

The Dan Brown novels do not come close to describing what the Vatican has been up to. It's much worse, far more interesting, and it is time the press, media, politicians and public learned about the Roman Church and put a stop to it.

By Gregory Paul | 3 July 2010

In the 1980s American news media both print and broadcast began to report on growing evidence that an alarming number of Roman Catholic priests had engaged in serial sexual abuse of children and teens, and that the church hierarchy had not only failed to properly address the situation, but in many cases engaged in racketeering to protect accused clerics and thereby minimize scandal and financial losses. However, coverage and investigation by the media and by the authorities was intermittent and insufficient, so it was not until after the turn of the century that the issue became a major national scandal. In part because charges were not brought soon enough few clerics have faced criminal charges. Another wave of pedophilia charges in a number of countries has yet again inspired a wave of public concern about the ethics of the Vatican, this time focused in Europe.

What few understand is that the pedophile disgrace is just the tip of an iceberg of outrageous church activity extending back over history (click here). It is alarming that the body politic is failing to appreciate that the Roman church has been involved in a chain of illegitimate activities that expose the inability of the autocratic patriarchy to avoid a high level of chronic corruption. The lack of adequate appreciation can be attributed in part to a pattern of under reportage and inadequate investigation by the news media and press concerning an array of questionable and extraordinary church activities during the 20th century and continuing into the 21st. These often bizarre events would seem to be out of a Dan Brown novel if they had not been documented by the mainstream press (to the best of my knowledge this is the only effort to survey and outline the contents of all major newspaper articles from the 1970s on that cover the below criminal schemes.) Nor has a mainstream book documenting the extent of the problem been produced and received widespread attention, a remarkable lapse of the publishing industry considering the fascinating scope of the subject and best seller potential of such a work. Another problem concerns insufficient government actions against potentially illicit church activities. Prosecutions have been rare, and when pursued are usually thwarted by the special status of the Vatican.

This essay focuses on events in the last century, which rested upon events in the 1800s. When it constituted a national entity with large territories the Papacy was able to tap large governmental revenue streams. However, over the centuries the lands and peoples controlled by the Holy See dwindled. The last remnants were stripped from the Papacy as the Italian majority rejected a Papal nation still plagued by corruption and excessive power, reducing the institution to some property in Rome by 1900. The Vatican was correspondingly impoverished in the first decades of the 20th century. Alleviating and then preventing a return to this condition has obsessed the Vatican.

At the beginning of the 21st century the official budget of the Holy See city-state stems from limited sources including the charitable Peter’s Pence and sales of merchandise amounting to about $175 million a year. But total Vatican revenues and assets must be in the many billions. The 1929 Italian-Vatican settlement described below should now be worth multi-billions assuming standard investment returns. The Vatican receives one tenth to one fifth of monies received by lower levels of the church hierarchy. German Catholics have been funding the church through income taxes since the early 20th century; according to tax data the current yearly amount is about 5 billion dollars. In America donations at the parish level on up amount to over 6 billion a year. Total global annual revenues must be in the tens of billions. The bulk of the assets received by the Holy See probably reside in accounts of the Institute per le Opero di Religione (IOR), or the Institute for Religious Works, commonly known as the Vatican Bank, which does not release information on its holdings and investments. Investigators have concluded that the Vatican Bank has extensive accounts in Switzerland and other nations and islands with minimal banking regulations. In 1979 Hoffman reported that “Papal finances are to this day enveloped in secrecy.” According to Colby (1987) Vatican bank officials have “had their own political interest in maintaining the bank’s independence. The profitable, discreet institution, with important holdings in publishing, regional banking and insurance, wield[s] much power in Italy.” Because the Vatican is a sovereign nation it has not been accountable to any system of national law, rendering it effectively immune from investigation by national law enforcement organizations, legal suits, or the media. Nor does the Vatican have extradition treaties with other nations. In legal terms Vatican affairs are subject only to international investigation, although this may be changing (Anonymous 2005, Cooperman 2005, suit by Dawkins and Hitchens).

The events that led to the Vatican transforming from an impoverished church subject to Italian law to a wealthy, independent nation occurred in the 1920s and 1930s; the collaboration between fascists and the church that facilitated this rise in church fortunes has been well documented by historians (Scholdor 1988, Gellately 2001, Steigman-Gall 2003, click here).

Timothy Dolan, the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) and Cardinal-Archbishop of New York is believed to be Manhattan’s largest landowner.

Mussolini was not an absolute dictator because he served at the pleasure of the King (M was legally deposed in 1943 after the Allied invasion). Consequently the founder of Fascism sought the elimination of the Catholic political opposition in the 1920s. In 1929 Mussolini and Pious XI signed a concordat and other treaties which included a lump sum payment of nearly 100 million dollars (equivalent to a billion in current dollars), more in investments in Italian industry plus government salaries for the clergy, and the sovereign Vatican state. A few years later, in negotiations that grossly violated conflicts of interest, the German Catholic church members Hitler, Papen and Kaas negotiated with the Holy See a mutually beneficial concordat that the Protestant dominated Weimer democracy had refused. The Fuhrer’s legitimacy was greatly enhanced, and the all German Catholic bishops were required by the concordat to swear loyalty to the Reich, rendering impossible direct clerical opposition to the existence of the regime. In exchange a provision of the concordat insured that the Reich Treasury transferred into church accounts the income taxes of German Catholics, amounting to about $1 billion from the beginning to the end of the Third Reich (equivalent to about 10 billion in current dollars)[1]. The tax income and contribution made at the time included money stolen from Jews by German Catholics, the Holy See has made no attempt to use the revenues it gained from Hitler’s Reich to compensate the victims.

After the war Vatican elements operated the “ratline” that helped fascists subject to prosecution for war crimes flee the allied dragnet (Gowan and Caniglia 1947, Dedyer 1988, Manhattan 1988, Quetteville 2003). In many cases the escapees paid for the assistance. Among those who escaped were the ruthless Fuhrer of the Balkans, Pavelic, as well as Mengele, Barbie and Eichmann.

In response to the infusion of large funds from the Italian and German governments, the Vatican set up the IOR and put its accounts under the charge of Bernardino Nogara, a pious, noncorrupt financial genius. His strategy was to engage the church in extensive corporate investments. This required the regular charging of and receipt of interest, which violated the long standing church ban on usury (Vatican II endorsed charging interest).

Mussolini harshly cracked down on the Mafia. Consequently the U. S. military allied with the latter in the states and in Italy during the 1943-45 campaign (Rodney 1977). This, in combination with the long term refusal of J. Edgar Hoover to even acknowledge the existence of organized crime, plus a series of unstable Italian governments, allowed the Mafia to expand operations on an international basis, and more deeply entrench itself into American and especially Italian life at multiple levels (Rodney 1977, Hammer 1982, Arlacchi 1983, Gambetta 1993, Schneider and Schneider 2003).

To outline the case linking criminal elements and the Vatican we start with a 1972 Wall Street Journal article (Kessler 1972) that reported that “Michele [mick-ale-e] Sindona, one of Italy’s richest and most influential financiers, is preparing to make a substantial increase in his American investments … described as “Italy’s Howard Hughes’ because of his wealth and secretive nature…. [He] staged a lavish reception to celebrate his latest venture…. Among those attending were U.S. Ambassador Graham Martin, Rome Mayor Clelio Darada, cabinet minister Giuseppe Lupis and Bishop Paul Marcinkus of Chicago, president of the Vatican’s Institute for the Works of Religion, commonly known as the Vatican’s bank because it administers the church’s vast funds. Bishop Marcinkus’ attendance was taken as proof of Mr. Sindona’s strong ties with the Roman Catholic Church.”

Further linking Sindona to the Vatican is a New York Times article (Farnsworth 1974a) that notes in “1969 Mr. Sindona acquired one third of the shares of Generale Immobiliare[2] from the Vatican’s Institute for Religious Works, the body that manages the Roman Catholic Church’s big investment portfolio. There were rumors at the time that Mr. Sindona had signed the final agreement with Pope Paul VI. Mr. Sindona is also in partnership with the Vatican in the Finabank of Geneva…. He also acquired another property from the Vatican, a company known as Codotte Dacqua, which supplies Rome with water…. Mr. Sindona was a friend of Jocolyn Hambro, managing partner of the Hambros Bank…. This London bank has had close ties with the Vatican for generations.” Another 1974 NYT article (Farnsworth 1974b) further observed that as Sindona’s “partner in some ventures, he had the Vatican’s powerful Institute for Religious Works, the body that manages the Roman Catholic Church’s investment portfolio.” Numerous other newspaper articles recorded Sindona’s ties to the Vatican, citing him as the Holy See’s financial partner and/or adviser; Hoffman (1979) noted that Sindona “advised the Holy See and Bishop Marcinkus on how to handle its assets and investments, ” the same year Lubasch observed that Sindona’s “financial activities reportedly included advising the Vatican,” and according to Dionne (1986b) “Sindona had also once served as financial adviser to the Vatican” (also see Lubasch 1980, Anonymous 1981a, Martin 1982, Raab 1982, Suros 1986, Dionne 1986a). But, as he publicly expanded his American interests none of the 1972-74 newspaper articles quoted specifically mentioned Sindona’s ties with certain elements described below, although Kessler (1972) referred to SEC concerns about his mysterious financial dealings. Playing a game of global high stakes duplicity that left him chronically on the edge of ruin, Sindona was also mentally borderline[3].

In his early years Sindona was recognized as a mathematical and accounting genius, and he worked his way to the top ranks of Italian wealth. The means by which he did so are well documented (Hammer 1982, Martin 1982, Arlacchi 1983, Fonzo 1983, Colby 1987, Tosches 1988, Gambetta 1993, Behar 1999, Schneider and Schneider 2003). Beginning as a wartime black marketer in association with quasi-fascist “Don” Vito Genovese of Murder Inc. as well as U.S. military ally Lucky Lucianco (Rodney 1977), Sindona soon became a leading banker for the Italian Mafia, and then moved to the international scene where he is alleged to have worked with the Italian Inzerillo crime family, related to the American Gambino organization. The FBI and Interpol cited Sindona as attending the famed 1957 Palmero mob conference that rationalized and expanded the international La Cosa Nostra for the heroin trade. Sindona, the “Godfather Banker,” was one of the great Mafia criminals of the 20th century.

Michele Sindona in his office in 1970, before Franklin National Bank collapsed.

Michele Sindona in his office in 1970, before Franklin National Bank collapsed.

In the 1960’s Sindona, who, with the exception of the 1972 party detailed above, usually avoided publicity, quietly developed ties with major figures in the Republican Party. Sindona also developed closer connections with the Vatican banking complex. Nogara had died leaving the IOR with insufficient guidance. This apparently was one link in a broad pattern of cooperation between two secretive, nondemocratic organizations in deeply corrupt post war Italian society. Initial links were made immediately after the war when organized criminal elements provided critical skills and contacts for operating the ratline. When (never fulfilled) moves were made to strip the Italian church of its tax privileges in the late 1960s, it appears that the Papacy sought out Sindona’s assistance. As, according to the Fransworth (1974a) article quoted above, Paul VI probably directly engaged the services of Sindona, who already had major financial dealings with the IOR.

The Catholic Sindona is also alleged to have been a Free Mason, which was infiltrated by the Mafia in Italy (Tanner 1981b, Raab 1982, Fonzo 1983, Suros 1986, Dionne 1986a, Tosches 1988). A 1981 NYT account (Tanner 1981a) covered the historic P-2 Masonic scandal in which lodge “members, according to the police, had sworn ultimate allegiance to their grandmaster rather than the nation. In a report to the government, the Milan magistrates wrote that “[Liccio] Gelli [a hardcore fascist with connections to Juan Peron] had constructed a very real state within a state,’ using blackmail, favors, promises of advancement and bribes…. Italy has about 550 Masonic lodges. Membership is estimated at 15,000, including many Roman Catholics. But Flaminio Piccoli, the Secretary of the church-connected Christian Democratic Party, said a few days ago that membership in a Masonic lodge was incompatible with being a Christian Democrat because ‘the Masons are a force that attacks the church'”[4]. Raab (1982) reported that Sindona “denied in the [official] interview that he had been a member of P-2. But he conceded that he had ‘prepared all economic projects’ for the lodge in Italy and South American countries…. The panel is investigating whether members of the lodge plotted to take over the Italian government through unconstitutional means.” According to Dionne (1986a) “Mr. Sindona was also a financial advisor to the secret Propaganda 2, or P-2, Masonic Lodge, a group of prominent Italians accused of criminal activities and right-wing intrigue in Italy and South America. The discovery of the P-2 Lodge brought down an Italian Government in 1981.” According to the accounts cited above the P-2 state within a state was used as an intelligence network to detect, detour or deter those who might interfere with its questionable, potentially revolutionary activities. It was soon banned.

At the lodge Sindona allegedly became close to the Bishop Paul Marcinkus mentioned in the 1972 WSJ article quoted above. The 6′ 4″ “Gorilla” had become the Popes’ personal bodyguard and travel agent (Hoffman 1979, Anonymous 1981b, Reaves and Ettenborough 2003). Possibly at Sindona’s request, Paul VI made Marcinkus President of the IOR in 1971 even though as the bishop acknowledged to the press “I have no banking experience.” He is also quoted as often saying that “You can’t run a church on Hail Marys” (Reaves and Ettenborough 2003).

In order to evade the threatened imposition of taxes upon the church Sindona divested the IOR of its extensive Italian holdings in favor of international investments, severely damaging the Italian economy. Yet the US ambassador to Italy labeled Sindona, who financially advised President Nixon, as “man of the year” in 1974. Meanwhile, the US Justice Department and Interpol caught American citizen Marcinkus dealing in forged securities. Nixon allegedly saw that the matter was not pursued.

Sindona’s 1972 Roman party for the international press seems to have been part of a plan to become built on an international financial empire, probably in collaboration with a projected P-2 led Italian coup, and using the offices of the Vatican (whether the latter was fully aware of the ultimate intent of the lodge is not clear). However, the Mafia banker proved unable to run institutions in a legitimate manner, his skills involving the development of large-scale Ponzi schemes. Financial headlines of the time reported his investment in the venerable Franklin Bank of New York (e.g. Farnsworth 1974a,b), but such articles continued to fail to mention Sindona’s Mafia ties. The situation deteriorated with remarkable swiftness as newspaper accounts reported major, inexplicable losses at the Franklin Bank, with Sindona promising to correct matters, but the institution soon going bankrupt as losses amounting to about two billion; the “collapse of Mr. Sindona’s Franklin National Bank was the biggest bank failure in United states history up to that time” (Suros 1986). Eurobanks followed the same path to bankruptcy as more billions disappeared. Sindona’ was repeatedly linked to the financial disasters, and the press finally began to discuss his criminal connections, often in association with his ties to the Vatican. For example Lubasch (1980) noted that Sindona “was called ‘mysterious Michele’ because of his secretive financial operations, which included large investments for Italian politicians and the Vatican. He denied reports that he handled money for the Mafia.” By 1986 Suros was more explicit when he explained that “Sindona … was once an adviser to the Vatican Bank [and] a series of investigations have exposed his ties to the Mafia.” With warrants being issued for his arrest Sindona, through the President’s recent treasury secretary, sought the services of Nixon/Mitchell law firm to fight extradition[5]. A publicity firm obtained for him appearances with the mayor of New York, as well as speaking engagements at Columbia and the University of Pennsylvania where he denounced excessive government regulation in tune with Republican economic doctrine that was on its way to becoming dominant in the US. At the same time Johnny Gambino and other NY Mafiosi feted the banker, investigators and potential witnesses were murdered, and an outraged Italian press denounced the protection accorded Sindona.

Facing imminent arrest Sindona generated more headlines as he disappeared for weeks, leading to a massive, media attention grabbing international manhunt (Lubasch 1979). He then reappeared in New York and “was admitted to Doctors Hospital yesterday with a possible wound in the leg” (Treaster 1979) that he claimed was inflicted by terrorist kidnappers of Red Brigade ilk (Raab 1979). The wound appeared to have been self inflicted and his other false claims would lead to a conviction of fraud. Investigations indicated that Sindona actually fled to Palermo, probably with the assistance of Liccio Gelli, the two and John Gambino may have been plotting a coup in association with P-2. Unclear is why Sindona returned to New York and turned himself in, perhaps he failed to garner Mob support and may have even been under threat, leaving him no choice. In the end he was arrested, convicted and imprisoned for massive financial crimes in New York.

Liccio Gelli.

Liccio Gelli. Grandmaster, P-2 Lodge.

One of the murdered victims was a noted Italian investigator charged with determining the full extent of Sindona global activities and connections. It was a contract hit traced back to Sindona. After extradition to his homeland Sindona was convicted of financial crimes and then the contract murder. Suros (1986) reported that “The end of the trial today resolved only a few of the mysteries surrounding Mr. Sindona ….” Dionne (1986b) quoted Sindona as saying, “They are afraid I could reveal some very delicate information that they don’t want divulged.” Within days of the murder conviction, while in protective solitary confinement in Italy’s maximum security prison Sindona partook of a cup of coffee and then came into the view of guards exclaiming, “‘They have poisoned me’ before collapsing into a quickly lethal coma” (Dionne 1986a). “His body was contaminated with cyanide. The poisoning of a man who was watched in a prison cell by television monitors and protected by 12 prison guards working in shifts was only the latest in a train of scandals. Italian investigators believe that if he had chosen to, Mr. Sindona could have thrown light on many criminal activities, including … the laundering of Mafia money and the death of Roberto Calvi ….” (Dionne 1986b). Not clear is whether it was suicide or murder. The former is possible because Sindona had slashed his wrists when jailed in relation to his New York crimes — although it is not certain that was a serious attempt — and because Sindona usually took his hot drinks in view of the guards, but this time drank privately. One way or another someone delivered the means to silence Sindona. Most consider it a mob hit.

With Sindona no longer available by the mid 1970s Paul VI appointed a replacement. According to Raab (1982) “Mr. Calvi replaced Mr. Sindona as a key financial advisor to the Vatican,” in accord with other accounts (Cornwell 1986). Roberto Calvi was another notorious Mafia banker with long standing ties to the Vatican Bank, as well as a Mason (Cornwell 1986, Owen 2005).

After the death of Paul VI in 1979, followed by that of John Paul I in a few weeks, John Paul II was elected. A dedicated Polish anti-leftist who openly acknowledged he favored the absolute power of the papacy, he immediately became wildly popular and most consider him to have been a person of high ethical values (although the charges related to the post 2000 wave of sex scandals have degraded his image). It was expected that reforms would follow.

However, Calvi and Marcinkus retained their positions. One possible reason stemmed from JP II’s dream of reviving EuroChristianity by funding the anti-communist movement in Poland. By 1980 the secure prosperity delivered by progressive socioeconomic policies had devastated organized religion in western Europe. JP II imagined he could save the situation by overturning dictatorial atheism in eastern Europe, thereby inspiring a return to Catholic devotion in the west. There was also a desire to oppose leftist efforts in central America. The anti-communist Solidarity labor movement, for instance, needed large sums of money to be effective. This could only be done through illegal means, and it appears that JP II used the church’s well developed ties with organized criminal elements, collaborating with Marcinkus, Calvi, Gelli and P-2, to deliver about 100 million dollars to Solidarity.

Doing so became difficult as Calvi and Marcinkus and the “Vatican Bank [were] caught up in the collapse [of Blanco Ambrisiano]…. The scandal has deeply embarrassed the Vatican and it has refused to disclose its full role in the affair ….” (Dionne 1986a) which involved the billion-dollar plus bankruptcy of yet another major Italian bank (Cornwell 1986, Behar 1999). In this financial disaster the IOR’s involvement “stemmed from its alleged direct or indirect ownership of Panamanian shell companies used to funnel the missing $1.3 billion; the archbishop [Marcinkus] running the Vatican Bank was found to have written dubious ‘letters of patronage’ that appeared to back the loans, prompting a Milan prosecutor to accuse the bank of giving ‘systematic support to Calvi in many of his illicit operations'” (Behar 1999). In a major article in the WSJ Colby (1987) reported that evidence had emerged that “for more than a decade, Vatican bank officials played a more prominent role than previously believed in the tangled, fraudulent schemes of Roberto Calvi ….” Investigating magistrates concluded that the Vatican Bank had been an umbrella for Calvi’s operations. While officially denying wrongdoing the Papacy tacitly acknowledged involvement when John Paul II paid $250 million to Ambrisiano creditors (Cornwell 1986, Behar 1999) — the ability to raise such a large sum contradicts chronic Papal claims of Vatican poverty.

Although Calvi appealed to the Pope in a letter (Owen 2005), he was convicted for his involvement in the matter. For obscure reasons free on bail during his appeal, he fled Italy leading authorities on another international manhunt. Some days later “Mr. Calvi, an associate of Mr. Sindona’s and also a financial advisor to the Vatican was found hanged under Black Frier’s Bridge in London in 1982” (Dionne 1986a, also Anonymous 1982). His suit was stuffed with stones and bricks Masonic symbols — and $14,000 worth of bank notes. For decades the person/s responsible for the death of Calvi seemed as poorly understood as the latter death of his one time mentor Sindona. The police tentatively favored suicide, but the peculiar setting, and the presence of Mafia/Masonic signs indicated murder. The case remained under investigation, and seeming breakthroughs have resulted in persons, including a jailed Mafia boss, undergoing trial in Rome (McVeigh 2003, Hooper and Willan 2004, Owen 2005). The trial received no attention in the states. The defendants were found not guilty.

JP II did not just fail to purge the Vatican, he acted as a protector (Cornwell 1984). As explained by Colby (1987) Italian authorities “issued warrants for the arrest of three senior officials of the … IOR [incl. Marcinkus] … who … avoided arrest by remaining secluded within the walls of the Vatican…. Vatican bank officials may have had their own political interest in maintaining the bank’s independence. The profitable, discreet institution, with important holdings in publishing, regional banking and insurance, wielded much power in Italy.” When Marcinkus and other Vatican citizens were threatened with arrest the Holy See cited the 1929 treaties as barring police from entering the Papal state to pick them up — investigators from the U.S. Justice Department, Italian police and other agencies were stopped at the gates. The legal precedent had been set when hiding fascists after the war. A NYT article (Anonymous 1981b) details that “Marcinkus, one of the most prominent American prelates in the Vatican, was made an Archbishop today and named the chief administrator of the Vatican city-state [i.e., the mayor] by Pope John Paul II. For the past ten years he has been the head of the Vatican Bank…. Since Bishop Marcinkus had been reported to be the official who had dealt most often with Mr. Sindona, it was widely expected that he would lose his position when Pope Paul VI died in 1978. But he was retained first by John Paul I, and then by John Paul II. The latter also put him in charge of all the practical arrangements, including security, for his trips around the world.” As reported in the WSJ, JP II lashed out at accusers of Marcinkus saying “We are convinced that you cannot attack a person in such an exclusive and brutal manner” (Colby 1987).

Only thirty-three days after his election, Pope John Paul I, Albino Luciani, died in strange circumstances.

A number of other Vatican officials were accused of being involved in the criminal activities described above, some did not escape capture. Rueters reported that “a top executive of the Vatican’s private bank was arrested today and accused of taking part in a fraudulent bankruptcy linked to the jailed financier Michele Sindona, the police said. Luigi Mennini, chief administrator of the Vatican’s Institute for Religious Works was arrested in Rome on the order of a Milan magistrate investigating Mr. Sindona’s affairs. Mr. Mennini is the senior layman at the bank, which had a minority interest in the Sindona-controlled Banca Uniono” (Anonymous 1981a). Mennini and a Donato de Bonis had their property outside the Vatican seized. The Cardinal Vicar of Rome, Ugo Poletti, was another who cited Vatican immunity. So did Monsigner Donato de Bonis, who continued to operate as secretary of the Vatican Bank after an investigation began into a billion dollar tax evasion scandal. P-2’s Gelli also did fairly well. After fleeing to Argentina, being captured and escaping by bribing a guard, and eventually turning himself in, the hopeful right wing revolutionary, occasional terrorist, contract murderer and high class thief served two months hard time and years in house arrest in his luxurious villa.

In a rare mainstream attempt to provide an overview of events up to 1982, Martin explained that “the man chosen to facilitate the transfer of funds and to guide other overseas operations was Michele Sindona. And by 1974, when il crock [the crook] Sindona was a [known] fact, large sums of money had simply evaporated. Reports placed the losses anywhere from $120 million (too low most authorities seem to agree) to $11 billion (a quite feasible figure many hold)…. Subsequent American investigations into the Sindona affair never cleared up its central mystery: How much money had disappeared and where it had gone. But many thought the answers involved the Vatican bank and its president, Archbishop Marcinkus [who were] associated with Mr. Sindona’s Machiavellian scheme of fiduciary trusts, phony deposits and phantom holding companies. Near the end Mr. Sindona was left with only one major backer: the Vatican bank and Archbishop Marcinkus.”

For many years numerous albeit narrowly targeted articles by mainstream reporters in a number of respected newspapers have strongly linked the Catholic church and the Mafia through documented connections between Marcinkus, Paul VI, John Paul II, Gelli, Sindona and Calvi, the two having probably been murdered, as well as many others. It has the potential to rank as one of the great scandals of history. Following the sex abuse and similar ethical disasters it is now apparent that the church is capable of creating and covering up major scandals that are revealed only by strong public and official exposure and pressure. Yet, despite the grave implications of the evidence published so far, no mainstream periodical has published a multi-page, in-depth investigative article or series on alleged relations between the Holy See and the underworld (Martin 1982 and Colby 1987 coming the closest), nor has a book on the issue by a qualified journalist appeared through a major publisher. No network news magazine has broadcast a story on the subject (I am not aware of the situation in Europe), and PBS and cable documentary channels have not presented programming documenting the evidence. As a result few people are aware of the issues. Despite the obvious story appeal, the only feature films that have attempted to portray the Vatican’s underworld connections are the 1990 The Godfather III, a box office failure, and the 2002 God’s Banker which focused on Calvi.[6]

Ultimately Archbishop Marcinkus left the Vatican. In or around 1991 he somehow evaded Italian justice and retired to Sun City AZ, where the now eighty something Archbishop has enjoyed golf and other leisure pursuits while remaining quiet (Reaves & Ettenborough 2003). The government of Italy attempted to extradite the cleric, but he had been issued a Vatican passport. Less clear is why the Chicago native was never dealt with by American authorities. Marcinkus is now deceased.

In 1999 twenty one members of the Sicilian Mafia were arrested in Palermo for executing a $100 million banking scam in alleged cooperation with the Vatican Bank. As usual, Italian investigators could not properly look into the bank because of its owner’s sovereign status. Meanwhile, concerns grow over connections between the Mafia and the Polish mob that benefited from the church’s means of assisting the overturn of communism. Perhaps diverted by the sex abuse scandal the American press did not direct attention to these ongoing international allegations. But a Washington Post report from Mexico (Jordon 2003) reported that a “federal money laundering investigation of Roman Catholic Cardinal Juan Sandoval Iniguez has reignited long-smoldering allegations of links between drug money and the Catholic Church…. Government prosecutors have long alleged … that drug traffickers have given large donations to church leaders who were secretly baptizing their babies and attending their birthday parties…. Nightly updates on television have shown pictures and video of [Cardinal Sandoval] with the wealthy ‘czar of gambling,’ Jose Maria Guardia…. Officials in the attorney general’s office have said their investigation also involves Guardia, as well as a congressman from [Mexican President] Fox’s political party and other members of Sandoval’s family”. In an analysis of global money laundering, Becket (2001) listed the “Top-scoring ‘cut-out’ countries, which make it hard to trace the ill-gotten gains back to the getter” as including the Vatican City. Similarly Behar (1999) cites the institution’s record of money laundering.

Next is a case that when it broke received extensive coverage in some respects, but in a critical regard was under reported. High school drop out Martin Frankel was a small time hustler and con artist who wanted to become extremely wealthy (Behar 1999, Johnson 2002, Pollack 2002). The only way he could achieve his goals were through criminal means. Despite being permanently banned from trading in securities by the SEC in 1991, in the 1980s and 90s Frankel escalated his activities by leveraging ever larger pyramid schemes into the tens of million needed to initiate what Fortune Magazine (Behar 1999) characterized as “what may be the biggest — it certainly is the strangest — scandal in the history of the [American] insurance industry” by setting up and then draining a shell insurance empire. Enjoying oversized housing, mistresses in multiple countries, and regularly attending the notorious NY sex club The Vault, Frankel’s fantastic project inevitably crashed. In an eerie replay of the chases of Sindona and Calvi, Frankel generated headlines as international authorities chased the fugitive across international borders as the FBI and IRS seizing Frankel’s Greenwich CT mansions.

Congressional hearings were held to examine how a person like Frankel executed a colossal, multi-state Ponzi scheme. It mostly focused on lax insurance regulations, any Vatican connection was ignored. This brings us to a crucial document. Five state insurance commissioners filed in federal court a suit titled Dale, Pope, Laken, Fisher and Pickens versus Colagiovanni, Collins, Corbally, Endurance Investments Ltd.; The Holy See a/k/a Vatican CityState and Monitor Eccleiasticus Foundation [MEF][7]. The suit — which I quote at length to present the insurance regulators’ compelling case in depth as well as provide a better sense of operations in the Vatican, alleges under RICO statutes that between “at least 1990 and 1999, Martin Frankel assisted by Defendants and others, devised and implemented a scheme to defraud insurance companies by acquiring them while concealing Frankel’s involvement, of misappropriating the companies assets and laundering the ill-gotten gains. Through this scheme, seven insurance companies were defrauded of more than $200 million [under RICO potential penalties total $600 million]. The defendants participated in activities that furthered and facilitated Frankel’s fraudulent scheme.”

Himself Jewish, Frankel decided that the Catholic Church would provide ideal cover as well as support for his operations, and he sought out helpful church members. It proved remarkably easy. After American prosecutor, friend of President Reagan, and devout Catholic Thomas Bolan received a letter through Thomas Corbally[8] from “Rosse” [Frankel’s cover name] outlining his plan in terms as innocuous as could be managed considering the plan’s breathtaking nature, Bolan “traveled to the Vatican and, with Colagiovanni[9], proposed the plan to Bishop Francesco Salerno in a meeting at the Vatican. At that time Salerno was the Secretary of the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See … [and] was also on the board of MEF. The parties discussed the proposal, informing Salerno specifically that ‘Rosse’ would be the source of the funds, and would retain control of the $50 million even after it was donated to the Vatican Foundation. On August 18, 1998, Salerno approved the plan, saying it was ‘a good idea.’… Afterwords the [Vatican] Secretary of State had misgivings…. Under a new plan [that better covered the Holy See’s complicity], Frankel would form St. Francis of Assisi Foundation to Serve and Help the Poor and Alleviate Suffering [a shell charity actually used to purchase insurance companies] [that] would be able to state that it was funded by the Vatican…. In actuality [it] would be funded entirely from looted funds held in Frankel’s Swiss bank account. Colagiovanni then agreed to allow MEF, the Vatican-related organization of which he was President, to be held out as the ‘settler’ of St. Francis…. MEF was used to create the impression that the funding for [St. Francis] had come from the Vatican.”

The suit lists others who knew of the plan. They include Giovianni Battista Cardinal Re, who as Sostituto head of the First Section of the Vatican Secretariat of State was the 3rd highest ranking official in the Holy See. Pio Cardinal Laghi, former Vatican Ambassador to the U. S. and head of the Congregation for Catholic Education in the Vatican who, after receiving a $100,000 hospital donation from Frankel, was warned not to directly thank “Rosse” and therefore sent a less indicting modified letter instead. Archbishop Alberto Trcarico, Nunzio Apostolico a disposizione in the Second section of the Vatican’s Secretariat of State. And Father Giovanni D’Ecole, Capi Uffico in the First section of the Vatican’s Secretariat of State who visited Frankel in Connecticut and accepted a donation for his charitable order.

The suit continues. “Frankel was also interested in securing the involvement of the [IOR], popularly known as the ‘Vatican Bank’ [controlled at the time by Cardinal Sodano]. As a Vatican entity, the IOR is beyond the reach of regulatory scrutiny other than the Vatican’s own supervision…. Colagiovanni assured Frankel that any fund or donation given to the MEF would fall under the protection of the ‘very strict confidentiality and secrecy’ laws that apply to any entity linked to the IOR. The IOR was involved in a number of ways in Frankel’s scheme.” After explaining how the MEF’s IOR account was used by Frankel et al. the commissioners claim that “as part of the scheme, Frankel had Colagiovanni obtain a letter from the IOR [which after checking his credit with Frankel’s Swiss banker was issued by Salerno] confirming MEF’s ‘uninterruptible relation’ with IOR, which was signed by the IOR’s director, Dr. Lelio Scaletti and by another IOR official, Dr. Anthony Chiminello. This letter was used to bolster MEF’s and St. Francis’ credibility with insurance regulators and others. For example, when lawyers and officials connected with one of the insurance companies Frankel targeted questioned the Vatican’s connection to St. Francis, the IOR letter was presented as proof of the association…. Once the Vatican connection was in place, Frankel established St. Francis as a British Virgin Islands trust. The St Francis documents were backdated to August 10, 1998 … in part to coincide with astrological events Frankel considered favorable…. [The Vatican] knew, threw Colagiovanni, that Frankel was to be the source of any funds allegedly contributed to either foundations. It knew, through Colagiovanni, that Frankel controlled St. Francis, even though Jacobs, Bolan and Collins were listed as members of the Board of Trustees. Colagiovanni’s position within the Vatican was an essential element of the scheme because it gave a patina of legitimacy to St. Francis, and Colagiovanni used his position in furtherance of the scheme. High-ranking officials of the Vatican authorized or ratified the plan whereby MEF would be used as a conduit for the flow of Frankel’s money to St. Francis to purchase U. S. insurance companies, while St. Francis claimed a ‘Vatican tie.’ Colagiovanni had actual authority to act as the Vatican’s agent in connection with Frankel’s scheme by virtue of his position as a member of the Curia [and] as a prelate auditor emeritus…. [H]igh ranking officials with the power to bind the Vatican in financial matters were aware of, did not object to, and explicitly or tacitly approved Frankel’s plan…. Because of the involvement of these high-ranking officials, Colagiovanni had the Vatican’s actual authority to assist Frankel in his scheme.” The commissioners detail Colagiovanni’s intimate physical connections with a willing Vatican, and continue that high-ranking “Vatican officials — including Re and Caccialvillan — knew of, and failed to repudiate, certain of Colagiovanni’s misrepresentations, when presented with the opportunity to do so. This refusal to repudiate or comment was in complete contrast to the Vatican’s efforts to distance itself from Colagiovanni, MEF and St. Francis in June 1999, after the Frankel scandal drew the attention of the international media…. When presented with Sandifur’s pointed inquiries about MEF’s and St. Francis’ funding clearly premised on misrepresentations, Re did not deny that the Vatican had given $190 million to MEF for St. Francis, a fact which Re knew was false…. His silence … enabled the scheme to continue. [After doing much the same thing] Cacciavillan agreed to forward to Colagiovanni or someone more familiar with the scheme any future inquiries about the MEF, St. Francis or about the Vatican’s connections to either…. In 1998 and 1999, Colagiovanni, MEF and the Vatican knowingly conducted, participated in, controlled, manipulated, or directed the enterprises’ affairs through a pattern of racketeering consisting of violations of the federal mail and wire fraud statutes, in violation of 18 U. S. C. 1962(c).”

At best Catholic laity and clergy involved with the Frankel project appear to have been financially and ethically slack and opportunistic. As Fortune Magazine’s Behar (1999) excellent summary explains, Frankel requested “that the Vatican front for him as a money launderer in return for a 10% cut of the funds (looted from U.S. insurance companies) [using the remaining 90%] to buy progressively larger insurers…. Given Bolan’s extensive credentials as a prosecutor and judicial adviser, Rosse’s letter should have set off all kinds of alarms”. But, as the agreed percentages illustrate, the driving motive behind Catholic complicity was probably criminal, because as FM continues, “[MEF] would provide [Frankel] with just the kind of immaculate connection he needed to cover his tracks; meanwhile the Church itself could sit back at a safe distance — eyes wide shut — and gather the promised millions skimmed from Frankel’s nascent empire. There was just one catch: Doing so would require lies and false affidavits, not only from Frankel but from Rome as well.” Court TV likewise observes that there “was something for everyone in this arrangement: Frankel had purchased the “immaculate” connection that should keep the regulatory community from looking too closely at his insurance empire and the church would benefit from a safe distance in the fruits of Frankel’s crooked dealings. It was almost too clever”. As per standard Vatican procedures, aside from their brief denial of guilt, the church has not responded to the suit, or attempted to publicly present exonerating evidence.

The argument can be made that the suit by five state insurance commissioners against the Holy See — and in effect against JP II since he is the person ultimately responsible for all activities within his domain — qualifies as one of if not the most extraordinary and disturbing documents in U. S. and Catholic legal history. If verified the scandal arguably matches the American sex abuse scandal. Despite the involvement of state officials, and coverage of the affair by qualified journalists, the case and even the suit has received unsettling little coverage from news sources, to the point that the suit is essentially unknown to all but a few Americans, and has initiated no discernible activity by the Federal government in its relations with the Papacy, or the commentary of politicians.

Taking an overall view of events over the decades, note the repeating patterns. The Frankel scheme incorporated the same modis operandi utilized in the Ambrosiano scam, high Vatican officials writing questionable letters of patronage to back ill conceived loans in collaboration with high rolling criminals. The schemes of Calvi, Frankel and Sindona were increasingly grandiose and bound to explode in the face of themselves and the church. When exposed Sindona, Calvi and Frankel desperately led officials on international manhunts. According to Behar (1999) the law firm of one of the players cited in the suit, Bolan (but not himself he claims), represented Sindona in his case.

The standard response of the church to queries and legal actions over criminal relationships and activities has been to either ignore the charges, or issue rote denials of culpability, sometimes associated with pleas that they were the ethical and financial victims of criminals, or naively unaware of the criminal intent of their associates. Those involved in making or supporting charges are frequently denounced as unjustifiably anti-Catholic by Catholics, and the Church is portrayed as a victim. Handling of questions is almost invariably reactive rather than proactive. In no case has the church offered a detailed explanation of why the church is innocent or a victim in the specific affairs detailed above. In The National Catholic Reporter Allen (2002) slighted the Frankel affair as well as the WW II and pedophile suits against the Vatican by titling his column “Lawyers Target the Holy See” and stating that despite “the fact that the Holy See is a sovereign state and hence theoretically immune from being sued in the courts of other nations, that of course doesn’t stop enterprising lawyers from trying” as though it was a matter pushed by aggressive attorneys who should cease their misguided harassment of the Holy See. Allen’s report included no expression of concern over possible victims or clerical guilt. Nor has the Vatican opened its files of accounts to outside investigations by journalists or law enforcement agencies that could either clear them of guilt, or establish culpability. Instead, the Holy See has stoutly defended and exploited its sovereign status in all respects, maintaining tight secrecy and prevented authorities from arresting suspects either in or outside the Vatican. To date there has been no major effort to break through the Vatican’s legal sovereignty barrier, although recent attempts have been making the Vatican nervous[10].

Gregory Paul is an independent researcher interested in informing the public about little known yet important aspects of the complex interactions between religion, secularism, culture, economics, politics and societal conditions. His scholarly work has appeared in Evolutionary Psychology, Journal of Religion and Society, The Journal of Medical Ethics, Philosophy and Theology. Popular essays are at Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post/On Faith, Edge and one of the most widely read Washington Post op-eds (5/29&30/11). Coverage of Paul’s research has appeared in Newsweek, USA Today, The Guardian, London Times, LA Times, MSNBC, FoxNews.

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1. Hitler paid his annual Catholic tax until the end.

2. Immobaliare owned Paramount Studios, where The Godfather was shot at this time.

3. For example, in Kessler’s (1972) otherwise sober WSJ account of the Sindona party in Rome it was reported that “Mr. Sindona himself relishes anonymity…. On those rare occasions when he has met privately with a journalist, he has confounded the interviewer by skillfully making a dozen or so tiny paper boats while rapidly fielding some questions, parrying others, and declining to answer still others.”

4. Membership in a Masonic lodge is a grievous violation of Catholic canon law.

5. In an unusual act of political sanity the 1972 Nixon campaign declined a $1 million dollar donation from Sindona, as revealed by post Watergate investigations. That Sindona made such an offer exposes both how big and how delusional his schemes were.

6. In The Godfather III the Michael Corelone character is a vehicle to present a somewhat sanitized variation on the Michele Sindona persona. In the film Corelone tries to finally become legitimate by investing in “International Immobilaire” in association with corrupt Vatican clerics, some of whom are murdered. No factual portrayal of the life of Sindona or Marcinkus has been produced. In TGIII the Frederick Keinzig character is a much altered stand in for Roberto Calvi. The more realistic God’s Banker was widely distributed only in Italy, where the publicity may have assisted in the attempt to legally solve his violent death as mentioned in the text.

7. George Dale [MS state insurance commissioner], Anne Pope [TN], Scott Laken [MO], Carroll Fisher [OK] and Mike Pickens [AK] versus Monsignor Emilio Colagiovanni [Vatican representative6], Edward Collins [associate of Frankel and Trustee of St. Francis], Corbally [well connected businessman], Endurance Investments Ltd. [controlled by Corbally]; The Holy See a/k/a Vatican City State and Monitor Eccleiasticus Foundation [MEF, a Vatican organ that Colagiovanni described as a “channel and instrument in fulfilling the will and wish of the Supreme administrator,” i.e. JP II (a view supported in Behar 1999). The full suit can be found here. After Hurricane Katrina Dale warned insurance companies to honor their policies with MS clients.

8. 2004 Associated Press and NYT obituaries list international playboy Corbally’s history as a Spitfire pilot, OSS spy, involvement in the infamous Perfumo prostitution affair that brought down a British government as both the sponsor of the contributing orgies and the whistleblower, high placed friends such as the king of Jordan and Mother Teresa, and proclaimed innocence in the Frankel debacle.

9. A Vatican judge emeritus, unfortunately for him he is a U. S. citizen, which left him vulnerable to prosecution.

10. These stories report that the Vatican approached the Bush II administration without much success with the request that the Vatican (as a state) and Pontiff (as a head of state) be declared immune from civil suits related to the sex scandals. This is part of a broader effort to maintain general immunity for the Holy See. A number of suits in the hundreds of millions to billions range stemming from WW II to the 21st century are pending against the Vatican, and the fall of the wall of immunity could prove financially devastating, as well as open files to public view that have so far remained secret.

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4c5a38 No.5864

Article alleges Joe Biden cozy relationship with Vatican, and pretense of catholic faith to woo catholic voters. Seems relevant in light of Sec. Pompeo's recent diplomatic visit to Rome and rebuff by pope's staff

Biden’s Catholic Con Job Continues

Meanwhile, the Vatican squabbles with the Trump administration.

by George Neumayr

October 4, 2020, 12:05 AM

https://spectator.org/bidens-catholic-con-job-continues/

This last week saw Joe Biden simultaneously advertising his “Catholic social justice” and touting his denial of it to unborn children. The former claim came at the virtual Al Smith dinner, the latter boast at last Tuesday’s debate.

It is a measure of Joe Biden’s shamelessness that he seeks to snatch the Catholic and anti-Catholic vote at the same time. He is running with an open anti-Catholic bigot, Kamala Harris, who regards mere membership in the Knights of Columbus as a disqualifier for public service, while rolling out ads designed to hoodwink Catholics into voting for him.

“Joe Biden’s campaign is launching three new ads this month targeted at religious voters, broadcasting messages that focus on the former vice president’s faith in hopes of winning over Catholics and evangelical Christians,” reports the Religion News Service.“‘We are running these ads to highlight to faith-motivated voters that Joe Biden is the clear moral choice in this election,’ Josh Dickson, the Biden campaign’s faith engagement director, told Religion News Service in a statement. ‘Religious voters matter to this campaign and are a key part of our broad, diverse, and robust coalition.’”

In the first ad, titled laughably enough “Principles,” Biden is seen talking to a nodding Jesuit about his father, a used car salesman. Biden quotes his father as saying that the “the cardinal sin of all sins is the abuse of power, whether it’s a man raising his hand to a woman, whether it is the government abusing its power, basic essential elements of what constitutes Catholicism.”

What about killing a defenseless child, Joe? Isn’t that the ultimate abuse of power?

“The second ad, titled ‘Morning,” is geared toward evangelical Christian television programs. It details how Biden’s faith has given him strength during times of grief, such as after the death of his first wife and daughter and after losing his son Beau to cancer,” reports the Religion News Service. “The ad closes with footage of Biden in a church reading from the Book of Psalms, saying, ‘Weeping may endure for the night, but joy cometh in the morning.’”

The final ad casts Joe as a devout Mass-goer, quoting a member of his Delaware parish, “You can tell how important Joe’s faith is to him.”

“The ads are slated to run in 14 states: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,” according to the Religion News Service.

So far Biden’s con job seems to be working. According to pollsters, he is leading Trump in support from Catholics.

Aiding in his con job is the near-silence of the Catholic episcopate. Most bishops have said nothing about Biden’s scandalous faith. Some have rationalized voting for him, insisting that the “single issue” of abortion shouldn’t dictate the votes of Catholics. Other clerics, such as Cardinal Tobin of Newark, have openly said they will vote for him.

And then there are the in-kind contributions of the Vatican. Another one came this last week in the form of a rejected meeting with Mike Pompeo, Trump’s secretary of state. “Pope Francis refuses to meet with Mike Pompeo because of upcoming election,” ran the headlines.

The stories quoted top Vatican official Cardinal Piero Parolin primly saying that Pope Francis doesn’t meet with political figures “close to elections,” and adding outrageously that Pompeo might exploit the meeting: “I have no proof to say this, but certainly it is a thought that may be made.”

This is beyond rich, given Biden’s routine exploitation of his meetings with the pope, which he invoked again this last week at the virtual Al Smith dinner. He used his speech to cast himself as a papal buddy. Is Parolin concerned about that? Of course not. He can hardly contain his excitement at the prospect of a new U.S. president willing to rejoin the Paris Climate Accord. In Biden, he sees a fellow supporter of socialist taxation, open borders, climate change activism, and other causes dear to Francis’s heart.

Of course, the real reason for the slight to Pompeo is that the Trump administration has opposed the pope’s scandalous overtures to the Chinese Communists.

Writing in First Things in mid-September, Pompeo observed:

Two years on, it’s clear that the Sino-Vatican agreement has not shielded Catholics from the Party’s depredations, to say nothing of the Party’s horrific treatment of Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Falun Gong devotees, and other religious believers. The State Department’s 2019 annual report on religious freedom provides an illustrative example in the story of Father Paul Zhang Guangjun, who was beaten and “disappeared” for refusing to join the CCP-run Patriotic Catholic Association. Sadly, his experience is not unique. Communist authorities continue to shutter churches, spy on and harass the faithful, and insist that the Party is the ultimate authority in religious affairs.

As part of the 2018 agreement, the Vatican legitimized Chinese priests and bishops whose loyalties remain unclear, confusing Chinese Catholics who had always trusted the Church. Many refuse to worship in state-sanctioned places of worship, for fear that by revealing themselves as faithful Catholics they will suffer the same abuses that they witness other believers suffer at the hands of the Chinese authorities’ increasingly aggressive atheism.

Here lies another reason for the Vatican’s sympathetic view of Biden. As a long-time apologist for China — among other examples, Biden once said he “fully understands” its coercive population control measures — Biden won’t give the pope any grief over his sell-out to Beijing. Indeed, Biden, like China’s secularists, seeks to impose the state on Catholics too. Biden’s impositions on the faith will chiefly take the form of a contraceptive and abortion mandate. He has already said that he will resume Obama’s persecution of the Little Sisters of the Poor.

Catholics can expect persecution from both within and without the Church, facilitated by an anti-Catholic presidency if Biden wins, brought to them by their own bishops.

George Neumayr is author of The Biden Deception.

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4c5a38 No.5878

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Cardinal Parolin Defends China Deal as Vatican Prepares to Renew Agreement

China was the subject of talks this week between Cardinal Parolin and the U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who has argued that the agreement has failed to protect China’s Catholics from a crackdown on religious believers under President Xi Jinping.

Catholic News Agency

October 4, 2020

MILAN, Italy — Cardinal Pietro Parolin defended the Vatican’s controversial deal with China Saturday, saying that all recent popes hoped for such an agreement on the appointment of bishops.

Speaking in Milan, Italy, Oct. 3, the Vatican Secretary of State confirmed that the Holy See was committed to renewing the agreement, which expires Oct. 22, saying it was “only a starting point” for better relations between the two states.

“For the dialogue to bear more consistent fruit it is necessary to continue it. On the part of the Holy See, therefore, there is the desire that the agreement be extended, ad experimentum [provisionally] as it has been so far, so as to verify its usefulness,” the cardinal said at an event marking the 150th anniversary of the presence of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions (PIME) in China.

Vatican News reported that Cardinal Parolin reiterated a statement by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, Dean of the College of Cardinals, in February that Benedict XVI had approved the draft agreement on bishops’ appointments “which could only be signed in 2018.”

The Vatican Secretary of State addressed what he called “misunderstandings” about the agreement, which has been criticized both inside of the Church and outside of it. Critics argue that it represents a betrayal of “underground” Catholics who have remained loyal to the pope despite persecution and has prevented the Vatican from denouncing flagrant human rights abuses in China.

China was the subject of talks this week between Cardinal Parolin and the U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who has argued that the agreement has failed to protect China’s Catholics from a crackdown on religious believers under President Xi Jinping.

Cardinal Parolin said: “Some misunderstandings have arisen. Many of these arise from the attribution to the provisional agreement between the Holy See and the People’s Republic of China of objectives that this agreement does not have. Or from the bringing back to the agreement of events concerning the life of the Catholic Church in China that are extraneous to it. Or even links with political issues that have nothing to do with this agreement.”

“I recall once again — and on this point the Holy See has never left room for misunderstandings or confusion — that the agreement of Sept. 22, 2018, concerns exclusively the appointment of bishops.”

He acknowledged that there were “many other problems” facing the Church in China, which comprises more than 10 million Catholics.

“But it has not been possible to address them all together and we know that the road to full normalization will still be a long one, as Pope Benedict XVI predicted in 2007 [the year he wrote a letter to Chinese Catholics]. However, the question of the appointment of bishops is of particular importance. It is in fact the problem that has made the Catholic Church in China suffer most in the last 60 years,” he said.

An agreement on appointments was vital to avert further illicit episcopal ordinations, the cardinal said, explaining that the Vatican decided “to confront and resolve this delicate problem once and for all.”

“But the experience of so many decades showed (and shows) that such a solution necessarily passed (and passes) through an agreement between the Holy See and the authorities of the People’s Republic of China. For this reason, the Holy See has repeatedly stressed that the objective of the agreement is primarily ecclesial and pastoral,” he said.

He said that the Church hoped that it could now “definitely” avoid future illicit consecrations, stressing that today all Chinese bishops are in communion with the pope.

The pastoral goal, he continued, was “to help the local Churches to enjoy conditions of greater freedom, autonomy and organization, so that they can dedicate themselves to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel and contributing to the integral development of the person and society.”

In his address the opening speech at a conference titled “Another China. Time of crisis, time of change” Cardinal Parolin traced the history of the Catholic Church’s relations with China, beginning with the mission of Italian Jesuit Matteo Ricci in the 16th century.

He noted that in 1951, the year that the Communist People’s Republic of China broke off relations with the Holy See, Chinese authorities and Church leaders attempted to forge an agreement allowing local Catholics to continue to recognize the pope as their religious authority, while following the dictates of the government.

“This shows that since the time of Pope Pius XII, the Holy See felt the need for dialogue, even if the circumstances of the time made it very difficult,” he said.

But after four drafts of a possible agreement, the attempt was abandoned, creating “mutual distrust.”

“It is a failure that has marked the entire subsequent history,” he said.

Only decades later could dialogue begin again, Cardinal Parolin said, recalling an exploratory trip to China that French Cardinal Roger Echegaray made in 1980.

“Since then, a path has begun that — amid ups and downs — has led to the present day,” he said.

The cardinal added that he saw signs that the agreement was beginning to overcome divisions between Catholics belonging to China’s state-sanctioned and “underground” churches, which he emphasized was a fundamental goal of the deal.

The agreement also sought to consolidate “an international horizon of peace, at this time when we are experiencing so many tensions at the world level.”

Cardinal Parolin concluded that the deal followed a line that “from Benedict XVI leads to Pope Francis, a line directed more to the future than to the present, more to the Church that must grow in China than to the disputes of yesterday and today.”

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4c5a38 No.5879

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https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/vatican-defends-pope-benedict-xvis-bishop-accord-with-china-after-us.html

4th October, 2020 06:41 IST

Vatican Defends Pope Benedict XVI's Bishop Accord With China After US Backlash

Despite protests from the US, the Vatican stated that it is fully committed to pursuing continued dialogue with China in regards to bishop nominations.

By Shubham Bose

Despite protests from the US, the Vatican stated that it is fully committed to pursuing continued dialogue with China in regards to bishop nominations. In 2018, the Vatican had entered into a historic deal with Beijing wherein the Chinese government would have some control over bishop nominations in the country. While the accord was signed by Pope Francis in 2018, the draft of the accord was approved by Pope Benedict XVI.

Read: Pompeo, Vatican Clash Over China After Tensions Spill Out

The Vatican stands firm against critics

As per reports, during a speech marking the 150-anniversary arrival of Catholic missionaries in China, Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, gave a comprehensive and tough reply to critics that have questioned its dealings with Beijing. The Vatican has stated that the accord it has with the Chinese government is an absolute necessity for the continued survival of the Catholic Church in China.

According to reports, Parolin has stated that as far back as during the time of Pius XII (1939-1958), Popes had attempted to open dialogue with China and discuss the topic of foreign missionaries. A draft of the accord that was agreed upon by the Vatican and China in 2018 was first approved by Pope Francis’ predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI.

Read: Vatican Releases Financial, Budget Data Amid Scandal

The fact that the accord was originally approved by Pope Benedict XVI is extremely significant because many in the Church have used the Vatican's deal with China to undermine Pope Francis, but the fact that the deal was approved by his predecessor as well silences critics.

The topic of the nomination of the Pope has always been a thorn in Vatican-China relations. The Holy See considers it the pope’s divine right to name successors of the apostles in China, while Beijing considers it an infringement by a foreign nation on its sovereignty.

As per reports, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during his visit to Rome on Wednesday reiterated US objection to Vatican’s accord with China and stated that the Vatican must hold China accountable for its human rights abuses against religious and ethnic minorities.

(With ANI inputs, Image ANI)

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f77cf8 No.5943

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3adeb5 No.6198

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Are ANY of the religious institutions made by mankind legitimate vehicles to know God or understand ultimate Truth?

Food for thought…

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4c5a38 No.6265

U.N. Chief Guterres Praises Pope for Backing Same-Sex Civil Unions

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020/10/23/u-n-chief-guterres-praises-pope-for-backing-same-sex-civil-unions/

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OP's opinion below:

The current pope has an agenda that is diametrically opposed to traditional teaching of the catholic church. Or of any Biblical church, for that matter.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Claiming to be wise, they became fools,

and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,

because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;

and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,

slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,

foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

(Romans 1:18-32)

i.e. pope [knowingly] gave approval

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c2b368 No.6392

File: ddcb2adba787ecd⋯.jpg (95.31 KB,1600x965,320:193,bible_06.jpg)

/// Poster's note:

/// Here's an interesting perspective on traditional Christian doctrine

/// Note: this is not my personal view, but I do see some some things to agree with.

/// I do agree Hebraic idioms are extremely important to shed light on meaning.

/// Where I take exception is that the writer only mentions a few out of many.

/// The OT and NT are virtually LITTERED with Hebraic idioms that express spiritual ideas using physical metaphors.

>>>/qresearch/11357027

MAKE THE CONNECTIONS

Part I -

A false belief driven by a demented, twisted view of the Scriptures plays out in the political realm. Whatever men and women worship, whatever belief system they support will determine their political and social stance. If a person elected to office worships a being they call Satan, or Lucifer they will work to pass legislation that supports their belief system such as condoning child pornography and human trafficking.

A misguided belief, a false belief, or the intentional, and knowingly twisted propaganda that passes for religion will always play out in the political realm of our world because, whether right or wrong, a person will always act on their beliefs. The world becomes twisted because false religion is promoted as truth, and the truth of the Scriptures is deliberately silenced!

Catholic dogma is responsible for much of the religious propaganda that rules our world. The church at Rome became apostate around 300 AD. But, they are not the only false teachers. Muslim and Rabbinical Judaism are also false teachers who contradict God's word.

And, yet Catholics and "Jews" are the top picks for the US Supreme Court as if only they know YHVH, when in reality their religious background is antithetical to God's word. We elect people to the US Congress whose belief systems are directly opposed to God's word. Do you really think they will pass legislation that is moral and upright?

The worst result of the most egregiously twisted and promoted false belief system is that good people, moral people have been convinced they must wait for Christ to come again because they believe He will fix all of these problems at THE END OF TIME! So, good people sat on their hands and waited…. and waited…. and waited.

Predictions of a "second coming" of Christ failed. New predictions were quickly generated, and then failed again. Many people who believed this false doctrine spread by the Roman Catholic Church began to be disillusioned and angry. But instead of questioning the false doctrine, they walked away from God. Now, today a great many people have lost their faith in God, and have been persuaded that the Bible is wrong.

But, what if the concept of a future "second coming" of Christ has been deliberately promoted for a political agenda? What if all of the futurist expectation of a reign of Christ on earth was a result of the RCC / Jesuit Counter-Reformation of the 16th century AD? What if this twisted dogma was picked up by the Rothschild's in the 19th century and used to deceive Americans into supporting their Greater Israel Project?

Part II

HEBRAIC IDIOMS ARE IMPORTANT!

If you are reading an English translation of the Bible you must realize that the translation does not capture many of the original Hebraic idioms that were used and were understood by the disciples of Old Testament laws and feast days for the temple in Jerusalem.

"Heaven and earth" - Hebrew idiom for the temple in Jerusalem where God met with man. Also used for the covenant / contract God made with Israel, the old Mosaic Covenant. A METAPHOR!

Understand this idiom / phrase and reread Matt. 24:35 (KJV)

" Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

Now paraphrase in English as Christ's disciples knew and understood what He meant..

"[The temple] shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

All of Matthew ch. 24-25 was a direct response to the disciples' question in Matt. 24:1-3 of WHEN that temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed.

The latter days and the last days spoken of in the Bible were all discussing Israel's last days under the old Mosaic covenant, and its last days of their animal sacrificial laws of that temple.

The first use of "latter days" was in Gen. 49:1 when Jacob gave his blessings to his children on his death bed, and told THEM what the end of each of their line would be. Judah would be the last of them, and would retain the scepter, would be the law giver until the SEED, or Messiah came (Gen. 49:10).

The scepter passed from Judah to Yeshua (Jesus) upon His death in first century AD.

When Yeshua told the woman at the well in John 4:21,

"21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.'

He was telling her that there would be no need for that temple in Jerusalem any longer. His sacrifice for once and for all (Heb. 10:12) made all of the animal sacrifices at the temple profane.

PART III

THE REAL SECOND COMING

A day of the Lord was not an end-of-time judgment. It was a phrase God used for a time of judgment against wicked nations, and wicked people. It is used throughout the OT prophets against nations such as Babylon (Isa. 13), Tyre, Edom, etc. It was specifically used against Jerusalem (Ezek. 13:5, Joel 2:1; Lam. 2:22, etc.)

The last days were defined in the NT as THEIR days, THEIR generation, THEIR world that centered around that temple in Jerusalem.

1 Pet. 1:20, " foreknown, indeed, before the foundation of the world, and manifested in the last times because of you,"

When was Yeshua (Jesus) made manifest on earth? A=B=C. He was manifested during the first century AD, and Peter said He was manifested in the "last times", therefore the "last times" happened during THEIR lifetime in the FIRST CENTURY AD.

Heb. 1:2-3, "in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;

3 who being the brightness of the glory, and the impress of His subsistence, bearing up also the all things by the saying of his might – through himself having made a cleansing of our sins, sat down at the right hand of the greatness in the highest,"

When did Christ speak to them directly as the prophets had to their fathers (vs.1), and face to face? A=B=C. He spoke directly to them in the first century AD, and the scripture says He spoke to them "in the last days", therefore the last days of the NT scriptures were in the first century AD.

The generation of the first century AD were constantly encouraged to keep the faith, to keep believing, to stay firm because He was coming to them SOON. In their lifetime. It is not still "soon" when we read the historical accounts today. He came to them in THAT day of the Lord, in THAT judgment against the wicked who had crucified the Messiah, and were persecuting His saints.

The second coming of Christ happened at the destruction of that temple in Jerusalem in AD 70, 40 years after His crucifixion, in that generation!

PART IV

So, God defined the last days for us as the last days of the Mosaic covenant, and the last days of the animal sacrificial temple system in Jerusalem. They were never used to mean the "end -of-the-world". All of those teaching an end-of-the-world judgment day are pushing FEAR PORN.

This misunderstanding has been fostered through literalist reading of English translations without considering the use of Hebraic idioms and metaphors of the temple and feast days that the disciples used in their daily lives.

When we are reading the English translations almost 2,000 years later, we have to put on their thinking caps. There are many more such Hebraic metaphors to consider.

All of the current teaching of "last days" and "end-of-time" is based upon a misunderstood and deliberately twisted belief system that is driving current US political & foreign policy. The people who have been taught this false dogma, and believe it so vehemently are making decisions that affect all of our lives.

All of the political agenda centered around Israel, the Middle East, and most every nation on earth is affected by this false belief in a future "second coming" which has already happened.

But most of all, it has caused "Christians" to deny Christ while at the same time they are sitting on their hands waiting for Him to fix it all. Because they sat down and waited, they created a vacuum where evil prospered. Instead of standing up for our Savior, instead of calling the evil ones out, they were convinced to remain silent and to be still. And now we are being physically muzzled by the evil ones.

EVERYONE MUST STAND UP AGAINST THIS EVIL!

Christ reigns at the right hand of the Father NOW! His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom (Luke 17:20-21) and is made up of all those who are covered by His blood (Rom. 4:7, Gal. 3:26-29), and clothed in His righteousness (Isa. 61:10; Matt. 6:33; 22:11-12). His kingdom reigns supreme over all of the kingdoms of men across the entire earth (Dan 7:13-14, Rev. 11:15).

God's kingdom is not a physical, political kingdom that is limited by time and space to an earthly nation (John 18:36), and certainly not the "state" of Israel created through the machinations of the Rothschilds in 1948.

The "Jews" and the Catholics do not have a lock on God's word. They have taught and still are teaching much error. All of their false teaching is affecting the political landscape, and the social structure of everyone's life in every nation on earth. All of the false teaching has opened the door to the evil we now face.

And, now the Communists, who have completely rejected the knowledge of their Creator, have attempted to silence all of us who believe on Him who gave His son to be the propitiation for our sins. And, the POPE (Gr. for dada) is working hand in hand with them to impose their ungodly rule over all the nations of the earth.

Recommended video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E-6b8-AFZI

Recommended reading: all the posts at ShreddingTheVeil.org, and especially "The First Audience Perspective of Romans 13" here: https://shreddingtheveil.org/2018/11/03/the-first-audience-perspective-of-romans-13/

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c2b368 No.6393

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Archbishop Vigano's eloquent and moving letter to President Trump describing the current situation as a battle between Good and Evil

/// OP comment. I am revolted by the 'Mary Queen of Heaven' (worship of the Babylonian goddess, earth mother, Inana) stuff, BUT in the remainder I find little to disagree with. I'm not going to fight with Catholic anons over this aspect of their beliefs. Our unity and concerted action is far more important at this time than doctrinal differences between sects or denominations. Our thoughts or prayers, arising out of sincere beliefs, have the potential to affect reality and create/direct the timeline, through mechanisms of quantum physics.

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147f54 No.6717

Vatican calling: Pope congratulates Joe Biden on election

BY WILL WEISSERT AND DAVID CRARY ASSOCIATED PRESS

NOVEMBER 12, 2020 04:34 PM

It’s not exactly divine intervention, but even the pope considers the U.S. presidential race over.

President-elect Joe Biden, a lifelong Roman Catholic, spoke to Pope Francis on Thursday, despite President Donald Trump refusing to concede. Trump claims — without evidence — that the election was stolen from him through massive but unspecified acts of fraud.

Biden’s transition team said in a statement that the president-elect thanked Francis for “extending blessings and congratulations and noted his appreciation.” He also saluted the pontiff’s “leadership in promoting peace, reconciliation, and the common bonds of humanity around the world.”

Biden said he hopes to work with Francis on issues such as climate change, poverty and immigration.

News of the call came even as some Catholic bishops in the U.S. decline to acknowledge Biden’s victory and argue that the faithful should not back him because of his support for abortion rights.

On Tuesday, for example, Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas, tweeted that Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris support “the slaughter of innocents” at any point during pregnancy.

Biden has said he accepts church doctrine about abortion on a personal level, but does not want to impose that belief on everyone.

Biden has had several phone calls this week with foreign leaders, including British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel. They have congratulated him on winning and consider the election settled.

Having the pope on board, too, likely has special significance for Biden.

He is just the second Catholic to be elected president in U.S. history, and the first since John F. Kennedy. Biden speaks frequently and openly about the importance of faith in his life and attends Mass near his home in Wilmington, Delaware, nearly every week.

No matter their faith, American politicians are often eager to meet with the pope when traveling near Rome, though Francis declined to meet with Trump’s secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, in September, citing rules against such sit-downs during election periods. Francis last visited the U.S. in 2015.

Known for advocating for openness on issues like gay rights, the environment and religious tolerance, Francis has been embraced by some liberals as furthering their causes.

In its statement, the Biden transition team said the president-elect told the pontiff he would like to work together to further “a shared belief in the dignity and equality of all humankind on issues such as caring for the marginalized and the poor, addressing the crisis of climate change, and welcoming and integrating immigrants.”

The Vatican issued no statement confirming the call.

The U.S. ambassador to the Holy See is Callista Gingrich, whose husband, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, has been among the vocal supporters of Trump as he refuses acknowledge Biden’s victory.

In the election, 50% of Catholic voters backed Trump and 49% favored Biden, according to VoteCast, a survey of more than 110,000 voters nationwide conducted for The Associated Press by NORC at the University of Chicago.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article247156941.html

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bc452f No.8463

File: 8b979c8e07d7d90⋯.jpg (12.56 KB,255x255,1:1,2320924cfc290efd876f473731….jpg)

Going to hang out here for a while.

Seems nice and quiet.

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bc452f No.8464

Reflecting on the boards and what they do - spreading information and dispelling the lies and the liars..

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c487a3 No.8465

File: 607d3ba59748ff0⋯.jpeg (14 KB,fd563ffc5a59e52abd352e083….jpeg)

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c487a3 No.8471

File: aad7031f8f50bd1⋯.png (14.92 KB,533x85,533:85,AGB1776.png)

>>8465

was very distressed, when you wrote that in October

now I understand

you were in pain and could feel your body giving out

miss you very very much

devastated

GodSpeed

Darrell

Godwin

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