93d38d No.39035 [Last50 Posts]
In this thread: anything and everything related to the father of modern horror.
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93d38d No.39036
By the way, August 20th will be his birthday. We could celebrate by streaming some 'lovecraftian' movies.
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e65b39 No.39038
>>39036
Great idea! Here are some suggestions from me:
I) The Thing – directed by John Carpenter – paranoia, human insignificance, presented with the hopelessness & futility of the situation.
II) Alien – written by noted Lovecraft-fan Dan O’Bannon
III) They (2002) – Features children plagued by not-nightgaunts in their nightmares, artists trying to convey the horrors they experience in their art, madness – criminally underrated, and with likeable characters
IV) Event Horizon (1997) – directed by Paul W. S. Anderson, starring Laurence Fishburn, Sam Neill – pure cosmic terror!
V) Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010) – the directorial debut of Panos Cosmatos; deal with a cult searching for knowledge & the human mind being incapable of dealing with the truth and the horrific experience
VI) The Last Wave (1977) – Aussie mystery thriller/drama that explores the nature of dreams
VII) AM1200 (2009) – indie short starring Ray Wise (Twin Peaks) in a cameo
VIII) The Gate (1987) – Lovecraft light, but featuring several Lovecraftian themes and imagery
IX) Occult (2009) – Blends Lovecraft’s Cosmicism with Nip mythology
X) In the Mouth of Madness – directed by John Carpenter & starring Sam Neill
Honourable mentions:
* The Tunnel – Aussie found footage horror that is surprisingly scary, and somewhat similar to HPL’s The Beast in the Cave
* The Descent – Very good British horror about a group of women trapped in an unexplored cave system; very, very similar to HPL’s The Beast in the Cave
* The Void – Very nice to look at, with some really fantastic practical effects; story is subpar IMHO
* Banshee Chapter – Somewhat similar to HPL’s From Beyond; namedrops HPL at one point as well as mentioning From Beyond.
Adaptations of HPL’s stories:
The Haunted Palace (1963)
Die, Monster, Die! (1965)
The Dunwich Horror (1970)
Re-Animator (1985)
The Testimony of Randolph Carter (1987)
From Beyond (1987)
The Resurrected (1991)
Bleeders (1995)
Dagon (2001)
The Call of Cthulhu (2005)
Die Farbe (2010) – German black & white adaptation of The Colour Out of Space
The Whisperer in Darkness (2011)
The Colour Out of Space (2017) – Experimental short film adaptation of The Colour Out of Space by German director Patrick Müller: https://vimeo.com/216921810
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93d38d No.39047
>>39038
The Black Rainbow had interesting visuals but I felt it lacked substance. The ending was a joke (unless I'm just a plebeian and I don't get it).
You're right about They, it's very underrated. It's one of those rare decent horror movies that for some reason always gets overlooked.
It never occurred to me that The Gate was possibly inspired by Lovecraft, despite having seen it a few times over the years. Maybe it's because the protagonists are kids. We watched it during the Halloween streaming last year and we had a good time.
I think I watched The Tunnel, it's about a monster lurking in the underground in London, right? The scary parts were scary, and the basic plot had potential. It's a shame that it had to be a found footage movie. They're supposed to help with immersion but for me they do the opposite.
The Descent was pretty good despite having an all-female cast. A similar movie is The Cave, check it out.
What about The Endless? Judging from the trailer, it would fit well into your list. It just came out so I guess you hadn't heard of it.
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6aea01 No.39058
>>39047
No no the ending was shit, I think Panos just ran out of budget and was higher than the rest of the time he was on the film so he basically said
>Ok so the bitch get's raped and the asshole fucking dies because he slips now let's hurry up and release this I'm bored.
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3b5f9d No.39059
>>39047
Initially have some questions about the ending as well, the way it sort of became a slasher… Or maybe you are referring to the toy sentionaut robot? Someone pointed out that Nyle’s death was similar to Wilbur Whateley’s demise in The Dunwich Horror. It is completely unexpected, and in a way that is so strange and almost anticlimactic, that I can see why some would think it is silly – the viewer/reader doesn’t expect someone as important as Nyle/Whateley to die in such a way, without accomplishing their goal. Both characters are frail and sickly, unused to the ‘outside world’; they have been sheltered and both think they are working toward some higher purpose. But death takes them nonetheless.
Here is the post where we started discussing the film as part of our filmclub over at /bestemma/: >>>/bestemma/267
>You're right about They, it's very underrated. It's one of those rare decent horror movies that for some reason always gets overlooked.
IKR? I was very surprised when I saw how poorly it was rated online, and in the comments on the IMDb message boards. I thought it was very well done; we are never shown what they look like, there is a building of dread and atmosphere that I think works very well, and the characters were very likeable. Fingers crossed we get a Blu-ray release of it.
It was only when I somewhat recently watched The Gate again that I picked up on all the Lovecraftian elements of it – the scene where they find the small geode (‘thunder egg’) and crack it open with a hammer and chisel, and we see these beautiful colours inside, as well as the lightning hitting the tree in the dream is very similar to events in ‘The Colour Out of Space’. That end theme was kick ass too. Another, very underrated film with Lovecraftian themes and imagery.
The Tunnel takes place in the underground of Melbourne, I think. It is hard to do them right, but when it is done correctly found footage can be really effective, and IMHO the closest way to achieve that realism of Lovecraft’s stories – first person, protagonist documenting/leaving behind a record of the horrors they experienced. IMHO The Blair Witch Project is the best found footage film there is, though I would claim it is more similar to one of M. R. James’ ghost stories; antiquarian protagonist interested in an old legend, an old book that contains a record of some horror of the past, the religious connection with the piles of stones, the witch who is not seen (by us), but heard.
The main reason The Descent is so effective is because all the characters are women; if they had been men, I would have expected them to fight back and have a winning chance one on one with a crawler. I did not like the way it made Juno into a bad guy at the end though – she was the best character in the film. I didn’t enjoy The Cave as much as The Descent – the cave didn’t feel claustrophobic and pitch black, the CGI monsters… It is very similar to HPL’s The Beast in the Cave though, and I had forgotten that Lena Heady was in it till I watched it again not too long ago.
I haven’t seen The Endless, in fact I don’t think I have heard about it before, but I’ll check it out ASAP.
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dae731 No.39263
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06bd5f No.39916
>>39035
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
On the Creation of Niggers (1912)
by H. P. Lovecraft
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4e80c9 No.39932
http://www.odditycentral.com/architecture/man-spends-23-years-carving-sprawling-underground-temple-under-his-house.html
>Levon Arakelyan was 44 years old in 1985, when his wife asked him to dig a potato storage pit under their house in the village of Arinj, in Armenia’s Kotayk region. He obliged, but after finishing work on the pit, he just couldn’t stop chiselling, so he kept at it every day, for the next 23 years.
Made me think of this thread. The article says it's a temple… so what god was he worshipping?
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15620e No.39938
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d884d7 No.39943
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4e80c9 No.39946
>>39943
Nice find! A guy named Tom Ardans posted a link to his own drawing of the Old Ones in the comment section.
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279e21 No.39952
>>39932
oh god, this is something I would do
something in me craves to dig and reinforce tunnels
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0883ba No.39967
>>39946
I like a few of the illustrations by Jeff Remmer, and Les Edwards deserves a mention as well. Edwards illustrated Necronomicon: The Best Weird Tales of H. P. Lovecraft & Eldritch Tales: A Miscellany of the Macabre.
http://www.lesedwards.com/galleries/black-and-white/117/
>>39952
>>39932
Reminds me of one of the entries in Lovecraft’s Commonplace Book: Catacombs discovered beneath a city (in America?). It also reminds me of the tunnels in The Festival, and the final quote from the Necronicon from that story: http://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/f.aspx
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15620e No.39985
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e65b39 No.39997
>>39985
Speaking of sculptures… I heard about an artist named Henry Clews Jr on the H. P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast (ugh) years ago, and I think some of his works are reminiscent of Lovecraft’s cosmic horrors.
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193413 No.40101
>>39035
The real creepy thing about Lovecraft is that he didn't just make these stories up. I read in his biography that he always kept a pen and a notebook at his bedside. He would always write down his dreams and many of his stories are based on things he saw in his dreams.
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7cde1c No.40104
>>40101
I wonder if he ever experienced sleep paralysis or lucid dreaming as a result of keeping a dream journal, because that's what happened to me just a few days after I started writing down my dreams.
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579e34 No.40116
>>40101
>>40104
You can see some of the ideas he got from his dreams in his Commonplace Book, and in his letters.
La Petite Claudine: [H. P. Lovecraft’s] Commonplace Book: http://archive.is/GR3fK
Commonplace and Trivial: http://archive.is/KXhcc
The dream about Eben Spencer in particular might be of interest.
I read somewhere (I think it was in a Swedish annotated publication of the Commonplace Book), a brief description of Lovecraft’s bedroom, by R. H. Barlow (who was HPL’s literary executor) shortly after Lovecraft’s death. I have the book somewhere, and I could look for it if anyone is interested.
The Complicated Friendship of H. P. Lovecraft and Robert Barlow, One of His Biggest Fans - The New Yorker: http://archive.is/bP7zB
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d3cafb No.43173
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52bf39 No.43227
Check out The Ritual. I think you can still catch it on Netflix.
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99bd93 No.43229
>>43227
I recently watched that and Life, but neither blew me away.
>>>/bestemma/2553
Very much looking forward to Can Evrenol’ Housewife. I think this film will nail cosmic horror; everything I have seen of it so far makes me very optimistic.
Also, They from 2002, is a very underrated Lovecraftian horror film I have championed since I first saw it.
They (2002) theatrical trailer: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=ztVRePVHLgg
Housewife - OFFICIAL TRAILER: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=my2TlQAHKJk
There is also a nod to Lovecraft in the sixth and final episode of Garth Marengi’s Darkplace, a meta/faux 1980s comedy show set at a hospital. Very funny show, with in-character audio commentaries for all six episodes.
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f53c35 No.43238
>>43229
'Housewife' looks pretty good, especially considering that it was made by and for normies. I hope there won't be a lot of romance thrown in to appeal to the female audience (female protagonist and sex scene are both red flags in my opinion).
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f53c35 No.43239
>>43229
Are you a fan of practical effects, anon?
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f5feed No.43243
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>>43238
Not sure it is made by and for normalfags tbh. Can Evrenols previous film, Baskin, looks like a nightmarish acid trip based on the trailer I have seen, and this one looks like it will be similar – very stylistic and weird.
The first trailer is the superior one IMHO.
>>43239
Indeed I am. Most of my favourite films feature practical effects only, since they are made before CGI was a thing.
The other day I saw someone recommend The Maze from 1953, which was originally shot in 3D, as was Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954). The film has a vibe of H. P. Lovecraft & M. R. James, in particular HPL’s The Rats in the Walls & MRJ’s Mr Humphreys and His Inheritance, but is based on the story of the Monster of Glamis. The monster in the film is very toad-like, but another description of the Monster given sounds very similar to the monster (played by Dave Prowse) in Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell (1974) made by Hammer.
The Maze (1953) Part 1/6: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=IofdzvkqCiw
The Monster of Glamis | History | Smithsonian: http://archive.is/1ijkS
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f53c35 No.43250
>>43243
I don't know, it just looked like one of those Netflix productions, but maybe it's just the kind of camera they used.
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d92c50 No.43254
>>43229
Seconded on THEY. The ending to it stuck with me for a while. Is there any more info online of BTS stuff? I was looking for preproduction art of the creatures but didnt find anything
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5cfe45 No.43263
>>43254
I did some searching and I found an interview with Patrick Tatopoulos, who designed the creatures and worked on the creature special effects, and it shows BTS photos and concept art of the creatures! He has worked an many major films, including Independence Day, Dark City, Underworld, &c.
So cool to finally see some BTS pictures from this film! The only special feature on the DVD is the alternate ending.
<[Steve Wang] also came back to help us with ‘They’ which didn’t do too well, but the FX were great.
Latex Mask Central: http://archive.is/dfiGX
Archived version of the interview from Oct 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20031001195323/http://www.latexmaskcentral.com/patrick.php
The only halfway decently sized stills I have seen from the film I found on this German site: http://www.cinema.de/bilder/they-sie-kommen,89822.html
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32f6ba No.43264
>>43263
Holy shit. That's a lot more humanoid than I remembered. I thought it was more like a bat for some reason
Guess I gotta get that dvd now. What happens in alt ending?
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32f6ba No.43265
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5cfe45 No.43266
>>43265
Ah, beat me to it!
I don’t think it has been released on Blu-ray yet, which is a terrible shame.
It also looks like the guys who made Dead Birds (2004) took some inspiration ripped off the look of the creatures.
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f53c35 No.43278
>>43263
For some reason I thought the monsters in 'They' were all CGI. It's been a while since I've watched it… It was probably a combination of CGI and practical effects.
Making monsters for a living seems like a dream job. I wonder how hard it would be to start doing it as a hobby. Would it be expensive? Would you need to have gone to an art school?
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c3d048 No.43439
>>43278
Yeah, it was a mix of CGI & practical for sure. One of the many things the film did right was not to overexpose the creatures; it is always in shadows or shown so quickly we never get a full look of it.
I think the heyday of practical effects and monster-making is now behind us. Stan Winston alumni Tom Woodruff, Jr. & Alec Gillis of ADI (Amalgamated Dynamics) are holding out though – those two are legends.
I rewatched the Roger Corman-produced Galaxy of Terror (1981) a few weeks ago, and afterwards I listened to the audio commentary, where they go in-depth about the effects.
James Cameron (Production Designer & Second Unit Director, + more?), Bill Paxton (carpenter), Alec Gillis & the Skotak-brothers (who Cameron brought along for Aliens & The Abyss) worked on this film, and it looks really amazing – you’d think it had a lot bigger budget than it did.
One of the guys on the audio commentary track talks about how he got into the business: when he was young he wrote fanmail to Corman, who invited him, and said that if he ever moved to LA, he’d get him work on one of his films.
The audio commentary track is well worth a listen if you want to hear about practical effects and creature design.
How a low budget film led to James Cameron's Aliens | Den of Geek:
http://web.archive.org/web/20170718052436/https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/james-cameron/50280/how-a-low-budget-film-led-to-james-camerons-aliens
James Cameron Painting a Matte for Battle Beyond the Stars (1980) | 2 Warps to Neptune:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160322202745/https://2warpstoneptune.com/2013/05/17/james-cameron-painting-a-matte-for-battle-beyond-the-stars-1980/
Also, I have just started listening to Lovecraft scholar Robert M. Price’s podcast, The Lovecraft Geek, and he made an interesting comparison between HPL’s The Rats in the Walls & a dream of Carl Jung.
Jung's house dream and the collective unconscious: http://archive.is/006aW
A while back I also learned that there is a new film adaptation of HPL’s The Colour Out of Space in the works, and will be directed by Richard Stanley, and Nicolas Cage will be in it!
The Colour Out of Space Film Moving Forward at SpectreVision: http://archive.is/Ma6p7
Nicolas Cage Will Encounter H.P. Lovecraft’s ‘The Colour Out of Space’ For Director Richard Stanley – Sound Books: https://web.archive.org/web/20181207002603/https://soundbooks.org/2018/12/05/nicolas-cage-will-encounter-h-p-lovecrafts-the-colour-out-of-space-for-director-richard-stanley/
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f45d02 No.43440
>>43439
Do you have your own blog/channel/zine about Lovecraft? You seem incredibly knowledgeable and well-spoken.
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c3d048 No.43442
>>43439
No, though I have toyed with the idea, I doubt anyone would be bothered to read it. I’d consider myself an amateur when it comes to HPL, “a picker up of shells on the shores of the great unknown ocean” to quote Dr. Mortimer in The Hound of the Baskervilles. English is actually my fourth language, so I feel a little out of my depth at times tbh.
I posted on /hpl/ back in the day, and I have kept an eye on the place since.
You can find some of my inane ramblings on /bestemma/, where I have mentioned HPL, as well as /sapphic/.
I recently watched Housewife, and I gave my thoughts/take on that there: >>>/sapphic/1288 – major spoilers for the film, of course.
I can highly recommend that film; the best and most interesting film of 2018, and I think fans of atmospheric, cosmic horror will enjoy it.
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1dbc48 No.44050
The is a small YouTube channel named HorrorBabble on which the owners of the channel perform dramatic readings of old horror literature. They specialize in public domain stories. Over the past three years, they have built a library of darn near everything H P wrote. They even have the obscure shit which you never see printed.
pic not related, why would you think such a thing?
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943525 No.45318
I discovered artist Gahan Wilson the other day, and some of his cartoons have a Lovecraftian flavour to them. His Wikipedia articles mentions comparisons to Charles Addams, but IMHO, his work is more similar to Edward Gorey.
Amongst the awards Wilson has won is the World Fantasy Convention Award – Wilson had himself designed the award trophy, a bust of H. P. Lovecraft.
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3b9a31 No.47704
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cbd403 No.47737
>>47704
Cheers a bunch! Just started looking thru the shorts now, and there is a lot of variety in terms of quality, ranging from amateurish nonsense to low-budget artsy masterpieces. The French short Behind is just fantastic IMHO, much better than a lot of the more well-known Lovecraftian horror films out there (like AM1200 & The Void). Hopefully there are gems like this in this treasure trove.
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a78184 No.47739
>>47704
Wow, I had no idea there were so many. Whoever has put that all together had some serious dedication.
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62b64d No.47746
>>47704
Of the ones I’ve watched so far three stand out: Behind, Black Cocaine & Reaver. These are both Lovecraftian and beautifully made – well worth a watch!
The Beast in the Cave is not bad either, and the titular beast looks great. My main gripe with it is that the protagonist is older than I think the character in the story should be, and the setting is confused – the clothes and storm-lanterns make it seem like it could be set when HPL wrote it, but the scene where we see him writing it down look too modern. Also, his hand-writing does not fit the tale he is writing down.
Dark Dream is unimaginative trash, and it uses H. R. Giger’s alien/xenomorph designs without giving him credit, and it uses The Blair Witch Project font for its title cards. There are several similarities between this film and the very underrated Darling (2015) by Mickey Keating; both shot in black-&-white, the protagonist is a young woman staying in a new/unfamiliar house, scenes where she is startled by a man outside, a scene where she opens a locked door to a room in the house and reacts to what is inside… In Darling Cthulhu’s face can be seen embossed on a book on the protagonist’s night-stand.
Dagon is absolutely terrible. Godawful artwork, abysmal acting and the voice of the narrator is the cherry on top of this turd.
Blow Me a Note has the worst acting of all the shorts I have seen so far – you have to see the doughnut scene to believe it. Just a terrible film. The idea of mixing H. P. Lovecraft and M. R. James’ stories is interesting, and having the protagonist blow a whistle he’s found and it summoning some eldritch horror instead of the ghost in M. R. James’ original story could have been cool.
Terror In The Outer Zone is mind-numbingly bad and is probably nothing more than a flimsy excuse to show off their poor CGI effects.
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594536 No.47749
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cec3be No.47753
>>47746
Dagon had a cute waifu though
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594536 No.47754
>>47753
I meant the short in the Mega collection, I love the Stuart Gordon film, and Fishfu (Uxía). it is far from perfect, but it is pretty damn entertaining. The short film is just talentless trash.
The short Black Sugar Black Sugar has very impressive effects and looks gorgeous. The effects are great, but the characters are unlikeable – all of them – and they act like morons. Still, worth a watch if just for the visuals.
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5bf48d No.47809
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H.P. Lovecraft's Dunwich Horror and Other Stories, now with english subs
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5cfe45 No.47897
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>>47704
Watched a bunch more of the shorts, and Home Education is another terrific short film. Got some major David Lynch vibes from this one – especially Eraserhead & Twin Peaks. Very interesting and well-made. Gonna have to watch this one twice to try and wrap my head around it.
To Oblivion from 1991, directed by Robert Cappelletto is another beautifully made film. Low budget, yet extremely well made. This one is a real gem.
Ray Bradbury’s The Homecoming by Ben Wickey is a stunning animated/stop-motion animated short. Some truly gorgeous visuals here, and I detected some visual homages/influences to Henry Selick’s absoluteley stunning feature-length stop-motion animated film Coraline.
Vanya is another very interesting and competently made short, but not Lovecraftian at all IMHO.
Broken Swords is another interesting and well-made short from the Mega collection worth checking out.
The Ordeal of Randolph Carter is another highlight – a humorous/parody of the original story that is very well-made. Deserves a watch.
Strange Aeons really rubbed me the wrong way. IMHO this is yet another story in which we are supposed to sympathise/empathise with the Deep Ones. People are hostile towards the main character who is a human/Deep One hybrid; he is threatened with violence/death, even the one who gives him a lift will only let him sit on the back of the truck, and the gov’ment raid on Innsmouth is called ‘Operation Whitewash’! So unless I am taking crazy pills, this film is comparing the treatment of the hybrids to niggers (‘second class citizens’ who have to sit in the back of the bus, and suffer under a kind of apartheid), and ‘Operation Whitewash’ is removing non-Whites by force.
This is not the first time some cucked writer wants to force a leftist message into this story, completely ignoring HPL’s warning message against race-mixing and letting a hostile religion take hold at the core of ‘The Shadow over Innsmouth’.
Visually however, the film is well-made, and some of the Aussie locations are quite scenic and atmospheric.
Creation of the Necronomicon is pure garbage without any redeeming qualities at all.
Re-Animator is laughably bad – the acting rages from wooden to over the top. The melodramatic scenes are so abysmal and cringeworthy it makes it fit right in with Tommy Wiseau’s The Room. So bad it’s worth a watch?
Currently watching The Statement of Randi Carter, and it is another turd. I don’t mind the gender-swap, but turning Warren into a dirty old man who takes advantage of Carter sexually because she is a woman in this film, is completely unforgivable. Ruined the film for me just a few minutes in.
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a83af1 No.48445
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05a86f No.48457
>>47809
Cheers a bunch, Anon! Saw a short bit of the first story (The Picture in the House) on YT some time ago, but the quality was terrible and without subs. Love this one – by far my favourite adaptation of HPL’s stories. The final story adapted, ‘The Festival’, is absolutely terrific. Pure kino.
>>48445
Definitely looking into these. I did look into the Monster of Glamis a while back, and came across a whole chapter dedicated to the castle in ‘Haunted Houses – Tales of the supernatural’ from 1907, which also mentions the monster: https://archive.org/details/hauntedhousesta00harpgoog/page/n258
The Monster of Glamis | A Blast From The Past: http://archive.vn/wuxZL / https://web.archive.org/web/20151224211914/https://mikedashhistory.com/2012/02/11/the-monster-of-glamis-2/
Skeptic » Podcasts » MonsterTalk » Episode 166 Chained Heir: Gothic Horror in Glamis Castle: https://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/18/08/29/
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a83af1 No.48462
>>47704
My favourite so far is Behind. Stylish and clean but still retaining a dark and 'real life' vibe; the pacing is just right, it feels neither rushed nor too slow; beautiful scenery and good acting; and I like films where the focus shifts between a quiet room and a dangerous elsewhere, there's something strangely comfy about them.
The Beast in the Cave on the other hand, felt quite amateurish and the whole time, the only thing I was afraid of was to end up old and lonely like the protagonist.
Black Cocaine was a turd.
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05a86f No.48463
>>48445
I wonder if the haunting at house number 50 at Berkeley Square/The Nameless Thing of Berkeley Square inspired, or was inspired by, Algernon Blackwood’s ghost-story ‘The Empty House’: https://archive.org/details/emptyhouseotherg00blacrich/page/n9
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f796bd No.48515
>>48462
https://player.vimeo.com/video/150286398
Found an interview with the director of Behind:
Enter Yog-Sothoth… - The Plus Paper: http://archive.vn/M1izI
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a83af1 No.48516
>>48515
It's amazing what a few people with almost no budget can accomplish. Makes me sad that big studios waste millions to make low-quality crap.
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b0e848 No.48528
>>48516
A lot of hacks shove in jumpscares, blood and gore in an attempt to distract from a lackluster story, poorly written characters and filmmaking skills – similarly a lot of big studio films use CGI and celebs to hide the flaws in their films; blind the audience with special effects and hope they won’t notice it is shite.
Just like the short story is the ideal and perfect medium of literary horror, so is the short film the ideal and perfect medium of horror films. It is impossible to achieve the same tension and climax in a feature length film. The only, somewhat, recent horror film I would recommend is ‘The Vvitch’.
I wish more filmmakers would focus more on the story, characters and atmosphere, rather than the special effects, which always end up being less effective than what the audience can imagine by sounds and short glimpses, and the character’s reactions.
‘At the same time don’t let us be mild and drab. Malevolence and terror, the glare of evil faces, ‘the stony grin of unearthly malice’, pursuing forms in darkness, and ‘long-drawn, distant screams’, are all in place, and so is a modicum of blood, shed with deliberation and carefully husbanded…’
— M. R. James in ‘Some Remarks on Ghost Stories’: http://archive.vn/KIz7x
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be2c4c No.48587
Some guy has posted this picture on Twitter, saying 'name one thing in this photo' and people are going insane looking at it, even comparing their state of mind to what it feels like to be having a stroke or be suffering from dementia.
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279e21 No.48589
>>48587
It's pretty funny. At first glance, it looks like common items, but the low image quality prevents a single item from being identifiable.
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82c025 No.48597
>>48587
isnt that that NEET japanese lady that livestreams her life?
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06c57e No.48610
>>48587
It feels like it was made by a newly-made low-trained neural network. Seems like common and recognizable stuff at first, but it's actually a mess that can be seen if you analyze it for more than a second.
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279e21 No.48612
>>48610
I actually thought it could be too. Those plastic bag things on the right almost resemble animal heads, much like the Google Dreaming or whatever it was called.
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99bd93 No.48616
>>48587
>>48610
>>48612
Looks like some AI program used to create deepfakes of humans was set to make random nonsense out of every day objects.
Creepy website uses AI to create 'deepfake' photos of humans who don't exist | Daily Mail Online: http://archive.vn/t4yj0
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
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be2c4c No.48617
>>48616
I wonder if this program could be used to make unsettling monsters/environments for horror movies…
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06c57e No.48621
>>48617
It could be used to generate creepypasta pics, using normal photos AND "legit" pics of spooks as its reference material. I checked StyleGAN on github and it seems you'd need some good hardware (something I don't gave, but what about YOU, the anon reading this?) to mess around with it after you finish the coding adjustments.
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835e02 No.51660
>>45318
>Now that you've come of age, son, I think it's time your old dad let you in on our little family curse
That's too specific of a situation to be a coincidence tbh, the guy had to have come in contact with Shadows over Innsmouth at least once.
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279e21 No.51663
>>48445
Mysterious 5 on Youtube uses mysteriousuniverse as a source to make videos.
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6cbf3f No.52659
>>39036
>post from 1 year ago
We should still stream movies based on his work laddos. Its almost august now.
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f97cc3 No.52664
>>52659
Agreed! Our past horror movie marathons have been a lot of fun. I'm gonna come up with a list of possible movies for this event, but I'm open to suggestions as well.
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3df288 No.52829
Anyone got issue 33 of Lovecraft Studies from 1995? The Mega folder in this thread does contain several issues (9-21).
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f97cc3 No.52835
>>52829
Why are you looking for that issue in particular?
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c6591b No.52844
>>52835
There is an article in it by Will Murray on Foxfield, as well as a reproduction of the map of the town HPL drew printed on the back cover of that issue. That article was also published in Dissecting Cthulhu: Essays on the Cthulhu Mythos: http://www.hplovecraft.com/study/litcrit/dc.aspx
Here is the entry in An H. P. Lovecraft Encyclopedia:
<Foxfield.
<Fictitious town in Massachusetts invented by HPL, although never cited in any story. A “Plan of Foxfield—for possible fictional use” in HPL’s handwriting survives in AHT; it indicates that Foxfield is east of Aylesbury and Dunwich and northwest of Arkham.
<See Will Murray, “Where Was Foxfield?” LSNo. 33 (Fall 1995): 18–23 (the back cover prints a reconstruction of HPL’s map).
The only matches are a few blogposts mentioning the article in LS & Dissecting Cthulhu: http://web.archive.org/web/20190515194039/https://sacnoths.blogspot.com/2012/03/derleth-and-mythos.html
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f97cc3 No.52846
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91167d No.52881
>>52846
>no mouth of madness
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3ae4d9 No.52882
>>52881
I am more saddened by the omission of Caltiki, the Immortal Monster and The Last Wave tbh.
Also, I watched the 2013 adaptation of Cool Air the other night, and I am still baffled how this got a DVD release. It is nothing more than an amateur film you’d expect you see on a short film festival dedicated to HPL, but padded out ad nauseam. The protagonist narrates 80% of the story, and it would have been better to get a proper narrator and release it as an audiobook.
This film also has the dubious honour of having the longest end credits sequence in recorded history. The total running time is 1 hour, 17 mins and 48 secs, but the amount of padding is ridiculous! The film opens with a 6(!) minute opening credits sequence which also contains several quotes and text going into the background of the story. Then, after six agonising minutes the film finally begins proper. The film then ends at the 1 hour 9 minute mark, so the viewer can now look forward to 7 minutes and 38 seconds of end credits. Never before have I seen end credits move this slowly. I am absolutely certain this was done to pad out the film’s running time so that it could be released as a feature film.
The acting was as bad as you might expect from an amateur short film project like this, the CGI special effects are bad, but not too overexposed I guess.
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bbb9b3 No.52883
>>52881
I tried to make it a mix of 'must watch' movies along with 'obscure gems.' In the Mouth of Madness is definitely a 'must watch' for Lovecraft fans, but in my humble opinion it's overrated, so I figured we could skip it this time. If there's demand for it I'll put it on the list though.
>>52882
Never heard of Caltiki, to be honest. From the trailer, it looks like a Blob knock-off but instead of the monster coming from space, it's an 'ancient evil' type of thing. No offense if it's a favorite of yours, but what's so great about it that you feel saddened by its omission?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44brFG1GSeA (Kaltiki trailer)
The Last Wave seems promising. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvuUDBHipE
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3ae4d9 No.52885
>>52883
>what's so great about it that you feel saddened by its omission?
I suggested it in the current HPL thread over at /v/ as well, and included this quote from Tim Lucas on the audio commentary track: “There is actually some extra dimension to the story, hinted at in the main title’s annotation, which say ‘based on a popular ancient Mexican legend’. The kind of meta-textual framing that was typical of Bava’s favourite writer, H. P. Lovecraft. … Caltiki is not only Lovecraftian, in its formlessness, but in its ancientness, in its history as an object of worship by a lost civilization that shed blood in its name. And that reference to a wholly fictitious legend seals the deal.”
/v/ - Lovecraft games: >>>/v/16579183
The Last Wave is S. T. Joshi’s favourite Lovecraftian film, I’ve been told.
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ea2c00 No.53035
>>39038
'Dog Soldiers – after special forces go MIA in British forest, regular grunts are sent in with an undercover advisor to retrieve assets – assets which ate the last teams, an may even be in their mists – Best practical effect werewolves in film, ever.
The Element of Crime – sepia-noir in, say, the exclusion zone of a pre-Blae Runner post-apocalyptic future Europe ravage by an unnamed cataclysm. Identity crisis in a detective over-committed to method acting his serial killer prey.
Horse Head – A lower budget French Cure for Wellness that does certain things much better than the latter. Sins of the mother, visited upon an prodigal daughter.
Solaris – the sentient planet bit
They Live! – nightmare goggles meme's inception
Videodrome – 80's analogue deep web, elite deviance underground, gang-stalking
Eyes Wide Shut – when Cruise walks into the cafe, he is frame by Egyptian Ram of Mendes horns (very specific motif); the Finnegan's Wake of occult steganography in film.
Blackcoat's Daughter – a curse film
Killing of a Sacred Deer – an even more monstrous curse film
>>39047
>The Black Rainbow had interesting visuals but I felt it lacked substance
Took it as a black project (Paperclip Nazis) mind control 'tone poem', so to speak. The tract housing at the end reminded me of Twin Peaks S3 on recent rewatches, an the Arborea Institute and time (1983) makes it a great ~mixtape prequel to the mad government MKLUTRA scientist(s) Stranger Things. Carruth's Upstream Colour gives the same impression more satisfactorily from a narrative standpoint (similar min control/entrainment/unethical tests), with the music being the real thematic glue over large dialogue barren swathes of us observing the characters, like proctors to the experiment almost.
>>39916
>A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
pic related
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fae637 No.54019
Came across this interesting entry on superstition and belief in witchcraft in Rhode Island in ‘Notes & Queries’ 7th S. VII. June 1, ’89: https://archive.org/details/s7notesqueries07londuoft/page/426
<Sᴜᴘᴇʀꜱᴛɪᴏɴ ɪɴ Rʜᴏᴅᴇ Iꜱʟᴀɴᴅ. — There is apparently a large survival of folk-lore in some of the New England states. A correspondent, writing from Gloucester, Rhode Island, to the New York Tribune, April 7, gives this interesting account of a district where the belief in witches and wizards still flourishes: —
<“This wild, wooded, and rock-ribbed region, less than a day’s journey from Gen. Putnam’s historic wolf den, in North-Eastern Connecticut, is full of superstition. It is one of the queerest of localities. In the centre of Gloucester lies Ponagansett Lake, and all about the shores of this lake are the dwellings of a hale and hearty people, who make this country, far from the busy haunts of men, a veritable wonderland of legend and reminiscence. The old men delight in telling ghost stories, and the young people like to listen. Gloucester lies on the crooked old Indian trail which ran between Connecticut and the Providence Plantations.
<“For generations back the Gloucester farmers have believed in wizardry. They will do much of their work only during the full of the moon. Otherwise they would expect to die or to have very bad luck. Planting must not be done until the signs of the zodiac are propitious, and gardens must never be ploughed on Fridays. Even a tooth must not be pulled unless the stars are right; if it is, it will come hard and cause great suffering.
<“Pork, if killed during the small of the moon, will shrink to nothing in cooking, while that butchered at the full of the moon will continue with and firm. To ensure luck in the mangement of domestic animals the sign of the zodiac must be in the leg. The wishbones of all fowls are preserved on sticks. Some families keep hundreds on hand all the time. When the zodiacal sign is in the head, then the Gloucester people believe one can do the most at catching pickerel and can hook the biggest fish. Hence the almanac hung by the kitchen fireplace in all Gloucester houses is a thing the settlers could not live without. Its study, if one would reap good harvests, ‘catch’ good clamming tides, and avoid misfortune, is imperative.
<“These people also believe that if you take up a black snake and bit it your teeth will never decay; that if the nails are pared on Friday toothache will be prevented, and that a child born in the heat of the day can see into the future, and will be exempt from influences of witchcraft. A ship that has such a one on board they say will never sink.
<“Perhaps the most curious belief still haunting these hearthstones of interior Rhode Island is that relating to the character of the little fish in Ponagansett reservoir. This pond is the source of the Pawtuxet river, which flows easterly into Narragansett Bay, and years before the building of the dam across the outlet of the lake, herring from the salt sea used to swim up the stream to the shoal waters of the lake to spawn. The old settlers who have lived about the lake all their lives aver that the shiners which now glisten in its crystal waters are naught else but the degenerate descendants of the herring race, and show the same characteristics. One of ‘the Bowen boys’ at the lake frequently says that ‘my father used to say there was no shiners before any d—d dams was built to fence out the herrin’s.’”
I find it interesting that this article uses the phrase “the stars are right”, talks about belief in witchcraft and wizardry, and the effect of a new water reservoir. Lovecraft mentions several times the superstitious folk of backwaters New England, and this article makes it seem like the belief in witchcraft in New England was still common as late as the late 1880s.
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106312 No.54027
“When the stars were right, [The Great Old Ones] could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die.”
— “The Call of Cthulhu” by H. P. Lovecraft (http://archive.vn/UlKqG)
Lovecraft was a keenly interested in science, in particular astronomy & chemistry. He wrote extensively on astronomy, and even published science magazines (http://hplovecraft.com/writings/science/), so did he have exceedingly rare astronomical event in mind when he wrote “The Call of Cthulhu”? Throughout the story there are allusions to a time “when the stars are right” for the Great Old Ones to reawaken and once more reign on earth.
A (somewhat) recent scientific paper puts forth a novel new theory in response to the Fermi paradox (http://archive.vn/Kv9cz) called “the Aestivation hypothesis”:
<Maybe we are not seeing alien civilizations because they are all rationally “sleeping” in the current early cosmological era, waiting for a remote future when it is more favourable to exploit the resources of the universe.
The Aestivation hypothesis: popular outline and FAQ | Andart II: http://archive.vn/hlQIV
[1705.03394] That is not dead which can eternal lie: the aestivation hypothesis for resolving Fermi's paradox: http://archive.vn/ZIXmE
At the same time the events leading up to Cthulhu’s awakening; a collapse of society, when humanity acts as “the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy.” This sounds just like the age of darkness, Kali Yuga, in Hinduism, and Ragnarǫk in Norse mythology/Heathenry.
<The Yuga Cycle doctrine tells us that we are now living in the Kali Yuga; the age of darkness, when moral virtue and mental capabilities reach their lowest point in the cycle. The Indian epic The Mahabharata describes the Kali Yuga as the period when the “World Soul” is Black in hue; only one quarter of virtue remains, which slowly dwindles to zero at the end of the Kali Yuga. Men turn to wickedness; disease, lethargy, anger, natural calamities, anguish and fear of scarcity dominate. Penance, sacrifices and religious observances fall into disuse. All creatures degenerate. Change pass over all things, without exception.
The end of the Kali Yuga in 2025: Unraveling the mysteries of the Yuga Cycle - Graham Hancock Official Website: http://archive.vn/mCaY0
Are there any articles on a possible astronomical event Lovecraft could have had in mind for the time “when the stars are right”? If the stars indeed were “right” in the spring of 1925, when would the stars be “right” again?
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6251ba No.54033
>>39916
>and called the thing a Nigger.
The way the rest of the poem is written so eloquently, and this part so bluntly really points to his dislike of them. You can sense him gripping his pencil tighter as he wrote it and thought about niggers.
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a6a0e4 No.54035
>>39035
I have recently bought pic related containing all of lovecraft's works. the picture itself is not my own as the book itself is at home which i currently am not at. I am planning to read it soon and i am sure it will be a wild ride, can any anons tell me which stories will be the best in your opinion? I will also be planning to get the yellow king collection eventually.
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571b8c No.54041
>>54035
I’d recommend these stories for someone unfamiliar with Lovecraft:
* “From Beyond” – very underrated story which nicely introduces readers to the core ideas of cosmic horror
* “The Colour Out of Space” – another great start-off point; doesn’t require any prior knowledge of the overall characters/entities/places
* “The Rats in the Walls” – very good and eerie modern Gothic horror with elements of cosmic horror
* “The Call of Cthulhu” – by far his most well-known story & creation; get the feeling some consider this story to be overrated, but I find it quite good, and it is a very good introduction to his stories that deal with cosmic horror
* “The Horror at Red Hook” – IMHO one of the more underrated stories, & certainly his most derided one by normalfags, who decry it for being “racist”. It works well at introducing the idea of a worldwide, ancient cult or religion with very sinister ideas, and that even if their beliefs are erroneous, they are more than willing to act out untold atrocities because of these beliefs.
* “The Shadow Over Innsmouth” – introduces some of the larger ideas, and the atmosphere is very eerie. The scenes in Innsmouth are superb. It was written after “At the Mountains of Madness”, & at one point a character mentions “shoggoths”, who first appeared in that story. That mention is less than optimal for someone just starting reading Lovecraft, or someone who hasn’t read AtMoM, but it shouldn’t prevent anyone from reading it before that story.
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a6a0e4 No.54045
>>54041
Thank you anon, i will be looking forward to reading these.
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7bfa8b No.54051
>>54045
Threw out the idea of a Lovecraft Book Club over at /lit/; it could be interesting to go thru the stories with other anons and see their take on them, and discuss the stories and themes in great depth – I don’t think the guys who run the H. P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast came close to doing his work justice when they covered them. Far too cucked and cowardly to discuss certain things/themes that often are at the core of his stories.
Anyone here that would partake in this?
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9637d5 No.54054
>>54051
I will when i have enough free time but at the moment i am unfortunately busy.
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dde9e9 No.54084
‘Game Of Thrones’ Duo David Benioff & D.B. Weiss Set HP Lovecraft Thriller Film At Warner Bros: http://archive.vn/BlMTq
“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.”
— Nikola Tesla
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d75a8d No.54117
>>54041
Blump.
Excellent primer. After that, it's beyond the black rainbow, as it were.
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eee993 No.54129
>>54117
Indeed! Is this just a strange coincidence? A chance encounter with a fellow connoisseur of cosmic horror кино, or are you a fellow poppy seed?
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8d7c7c No.54245
The Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath is very commonly slept on in terms of Lovecraft's works. Although, I wouldn't suggest listening to it until you've read some of the other stories set around the mad arab or the old world, it's definitely my favorite story of his. It sheds so much light upon Lovecraft's dream lands as well as the old world that he describes in some of his other works.
I'd strongly recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it already.
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37b751 No.54313
>>48597
Might be thinking of Chipchan, think she's Korean.
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80acde No.58588
In Robert M. Price’s “Crypt of Cthulhu” №. 22 there is an article titled “John Buchan: A Possible Influence on Lovecraft” written by by Sam Moskowitz: https://archive.org/details/Crypt_of_Cthulhu_022_v03n06_Roodmas_1984/page/n13/mode/2up
John Buchan, 1st Baron Tweedsmuir was a Scottish novelist, historian and politician, best known for his 1915 novel “The Thirty-Nine Steps”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Buchan
He wrote a collection of short-stories in 1902 titled “The Watcher at the Threshold”, so August Derleth must also have been familiar with Buchanan, since he wrote a posthumous 1945 “collaboration” with Lovecraft titled “The Lurker at the Threshold”. According to S. T. Joshi 1200 of the 50.000 words in the finished “collaboration” were written by Lovecraft.
The article quotes an excerpt from Lovecraft’s essay “Supernatural Horror in Literature”:
<In the novel Witch Wood John Buchan depicts with tremendous force a survival of the evil Sabbat in a lonely district of Scotland. The description of the black forest with the evil stone, and of the terrible cosmic adumbrations when the horror is finally extripated, will repay one for wading though the very gradual action and plenthora of Scottish dialect. Some of Mr. Buchan’s short stories are also very vivid in their spectral intimations; “The Green Wildebeest”, a tale of African witchcraft, “The Wind in the Portico”, with its awakening of dead Britanno-Roman horrors, and “Skule Skerry”, with its touches of sub-arctic fright, being especially remarkable.
"Supernatural Horror in Literature" by H. P. Lovecraft: http://archive.vn/tV3C4 / http://web.archive.org/web/20200718004720/https://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/essays/shil.aspx
The Wind in the Portico: http://archive.vn/8KTgl#c04 / http://web.archive.org/web/20200629160039/http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301381h.html#c04
Sidonius in Clubland: John Buchan’s ‘The Wind in the Portico’ – Sidonius in Antiquity and Modernity: http://archive.vn/HQVsC / http://web.archive.org/web/20200123234213/http://research.shca.ed.ac.uk/sidonius/2016/06/10/sidonius-in-clubland/
Skule Skerry: http://archive.vn/8KTgl#c09 / http://web.archive.org/web/20200629160039/http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301381h.html#c09
Orkneyjar - The Selkie Folk of Orkney Folklore: http://archive.vn/6XwK
The Grove of Ashtaroth by John Buchan: https://web.archive.org/web/20120414141659/https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/buchan/john/grove_of_ashtaroth/index.html
The Grove of Ashtaroth by John Buchan: https://archive.org/details/blackwoodsmagazi187edinuoft/page/802/mode/2up
Witch Wood by John Buchan: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.201849/page/n11/mode/2up
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2642b2 No.58857
This is out on Netflix right now.
>Nicholas Cage
>Nicholas Cage speaking with Trump's speech mannerisms because he's dying to return to real acting
>Hideous creature from beyond time and space known as Joely Richardson plays the wife
>Some amazing visuals
>Some really, really gross shit that would have made Lovecraft kill himself
>Characters who earn and deserve literally none of our sympathy
>Nicholas Cage
The body horror in this movie would make David Cronenberg and Clive Barker give up and open a bakery together. Also, the mysterious color is magenta, which, frankly, is disappointing. Also, additions of witchcraft bullshit that adds nothing to the story.
Captcha: Yawntp. Boring toilet paper.
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b05122 No.58863
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85afbe No.59238
>>58857
Was sorta looking forward to this, especially after seeing Cage in Mandy, where he was brilliant, but the more I read about the director, the less interest I had in the film. Then the trailer hit and I was done; not even gonna watch this one.
Sadly the director is planning a trilogy of films, and he is suffering from white guilt and TDS. On top of the absolutely awful-looking Lovecraft Country, these films will taint the good name of Lovecraft and could end up emboldening/empowering deranged leftists to hijack the Mythos even further.
Two Barbara Crampton Lovecraft films coming up though; a remake of the 1995 Castle Freak by Stuart Gordon, now with full-on Lovecraftian references, and a wholly original story, Sacrifice, which blends folk horror and Lovecraftian cosmic horror.
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e92dbe No.59264
Anyone got Weird Realism: Lovecraft and Philosophy by Graham Harman? It is not in the Mega Lovecraft Material collection: >>47704
https://www.hplovecraft.com/study/litcrit/wrlp.aspx
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3006a7 No.59418
Let’s talk about the Elder Sign… I much prefer the Elder Sign Lovecraft came up with rather than the clichéd and blatantly occult eye and star symbol Derleth made. Derleth’s symbol looks cheesy and so blatantly sinister and occult, rather than some ancient runic or hieroglyphic symbol that might have originated with an alien culture.
In The Shadow Over Innsmouth (1931) Allen says:
<In some places they was little stones strewed abaout – like charms – with somethin’ on ’em like what ye call a swastika naowadays. Prob’ly them was the Old Ones’ signs.
"The Shadow over Innsmouth" by H. P. Lovecraft: https://archive.vn/uIp1k / https://web.archive.org/web/20201208090745/https://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/soi.aspx
Although it is referred to as the sign of the “Old Ones”, this must be the Elder Sign. However, in a letter to Clark Ashton Smith, dated 1930, he draws the now accepted Elder Sign.
In “The Haunter of the Dark” (November 1935) there is mention of what may be the Elder Sign as a handsign:
<On Federal Hill there were watchers as anxious as he, and rain-soaked knots of men paraded the square and alleys around the evil church with umbrella-shaded candles, electric flashlights, oil lanterns, crucifixes, and obscure charms of the many sorts common to southern Italy. They blessed each flash of lightning, and made cryptical signs of fear with their right hands when a turn in the storm caused the flashes to lessen and finally cease altogether.
"The Haunter of the Dark" by H. P. Lovecraft: https://archive.vn/XcZjD / https://web.archive.org/web/20201112020910/https://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/hd.aspx
If I remember correctly S. T. Joshi hypothesises that this handsign was the Elder Sign in his annotated The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories.
Since life on earth was made by the Elder Things – perhaps they hardcoded the fear of this symbol into the DNA of their creations as a safety measure?
This explanation fits with Lovecraft’s materialist worldview, I think, better than what we could call “magic”, like a cross repelling a vampire for religious reasons. Science has now showed that fears and traumatic memories can be passed down through the generations, added to the genes as an evolutionary safety guard.
Fear of a smell can be passed down several generations | New Scientist: http://archive.vn/fwTIL / https://web.archive.org/web/20190414113324/https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24677-fear-of-a-smell-can-be-passed-down-several-generations/
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30f981 No.63070
Found the aforementioned map of Foxfield from Lovecraft Studies #33 (1995), HPL’s own hand drawn map of Arkham, and Will Murray’s map of the Miskatonic region from Lovecraft Studies #13 (Volume 5, Number 2 Fall 1986).
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