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a new thread for when everyone wakes up
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No.55511
>>55509
>>55506
I still don't understand. how are they expecting that to work? will it be the client or the server which pays? when do they not have to pay? is there anything regarding paying at all? I stayed completely out of that stuff. I don't involve myself in that kind of stuff.
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No.55512
>>55511
well, I don't know how this will work either, but I just hope this will free smaller ISPs to come up and provide internet, so I don't get stuck with an ISP what want to offer internet like cable.
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No.55513
>>55512
how do they expect phone connections to work where it's already paid for a set amount of data?
Isn't it just not really possible?
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No.55514
>>55513
Posting cp like that is gonna make you go offline
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No.55515
>>55513
mobile data, only had net neutrality after 2015
so just remember before 2015
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No.55516
>>55508
Let's hope you're right. People are pretty upset about it already. I would think it would create an even bigger uproar once it passed and ISPs started milking websites for extortion money and other shady stuff!
But I guess it's the US president making appointments into the FCC?
>>55509
Yeah, quite possible. And presumably, (for profit) sites that already charge their users would be hit the hardest? Since sites that don't have money don't have anything to give. But maybe they could still slow them down a notch to motivate them to use advertising or other nasty stuff! Gah that's an awful thought.
>>55511
>will it be the client or the server which pays?
It must be the server / site owners, imo. They'll just say "Okay, you want your users to have decent access to your site, pay up." and if they do want it, they will pay up (and will be forced to charge their users [more] money). Or they might even just stifle speech they don't like.
>>55512
(yeah but you'll have to find out about smaller ISP on not-internet!)
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No.55517
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No.55518
>>55516
>use TOR
>cuck ISP knows you're on TOR but not what sites you go to
>???
>profit
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No.55519
>>55515
hmmm, what exactly was the difference?
>>55516
hmm, yeah, I can see ISPs having a lot of trouble doing something like that
>you'll have to find out about smaller ISP on not-internet
maybe just flyers in the mail or something!
hello madexx
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No.55520
>>55519
they had unlimited data, but after you went passed a point, your data was slowed, and they throttled apps, so you would use their apps.
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No.55521
>>55520
w-well, they still do a similar thing, right? you have limited data but they charge you lots of money after you reach a certain point, r-right?
but what does that have to do with per-website type of stuff? that's where I'm confused.
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No.55522
>>55517
/)x_x(\
>>55518
They don't need to know who uses what sites? Just that sites are used.
>>55519
They should. Though I think they already tried pulling similar things off before, so now that they'll explicitly be able to, it's clear they'll try!
>maybe just flyers in the mail or something!
Mhmm, maybe! Make a grassrotts ISP movement in protest.
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No.55523
>>55521
for home internet, they charge you extra for every 10 gbs you go over now
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No.55524
>>55523
my data cap is two terabytes or something and I rarely download anything, so unless that changes, I will be okay
I hope that people don't get bullied by it too much though, if it does happen. and hopefully it doesn't last.
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No.55525
>>55522
the idea is that they control what you go to
if they outright deny a paying customer service, thats fraudulent and violates terms of service
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No.55526
>>55525
I'm sure they would have you agree to a new terms of service or something? this is what I mean, like, it just sounds like so much weird stuff and so many complications that they probably will not be able to do it, b-but that's just my positive thinking, maybe~!
>>55525
wow! hello maddie-senpai!
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No.55527
if this net neutrality thingy goes tru big companies could be like:
>"yo, internet provider. Here is a billion dollars make everyone that isnt us load super slow"
Making normies only use their sites.
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No.55528
>>55527
and bullying smoller sites like 8ch in the procces
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No.55529
>>55527
>>55528
8ch is the biggest site and company in the world, we're safe
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No.55530
>>55524
>download
you use data whenever you do anything on the internet
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No.55531
>>55526
>you pay for our service and we wont give it to you cause you access websites, but we dunno what they are
that would make a great lawsuit, Im sure
I post as anon sometimes cause Im on phone at that point and I really cant be bothered to transfer my trips to the phone
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No.55532
>>55530
do you think reading text and loading images uses 2 terabytes of data in one month? sometimes videos
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No.55533
>>55531
oh, so it was you. funny madexx.
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No.55534
>>55531
the point is that TOR (with the proper encryption) makes it so that not even the NSA can create a backdoor for it. You can get traced, sure, but its nothing an ISP has the tools for
TOR makes it so that they know you use it, but they dont know what sites you went to. So if they deny you service without reasonable evidence, or a stretch of a "good" reason, then they are cornered.
Fuck them
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No.55535
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>>55525
Yeah.
I guess that's true. It might even fall under the first amendment, if they just denied access ti a site (wait, actually I guess that only applies to the government, so probably not).
Though, couldn't they just change their terms of service?
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No.55536
>>55532
nah, gaming, downloading big things, and watching high res video are the only things I really eat data
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No.55537
>>55535
Im sure they will be niggers and change the TOS
but the essential component of a TOS is
>pay us
>we provide service
these are mutually exclusive, for when they're not, that's illegal af
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No.55538
>>55536
y-yes, and I've never reached anywhere near my data cap~!
>>55535
>>55526
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No.55539
>>55538
I go over every month
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No.55540
>>55534
>not routing TOR trough freenet behind 9 proxies
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No.55541
most corporate kikes would rather work something out with you than to go to court. losing a few K is whatever to them
losing potentially millions through an unsuccessful lawsuit? not so much
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No.55542
>>55539
w a w
w-what's your data cap?
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No.55543
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No.55544
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No.55545
>>55542
like a 100 or something gbs
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No.55546
>>55537
We provide a service by giving you access to sites depending on how much those sites pay us. I dunno. I remember a story of how these companies that offer financial counselling are not obliged to provide counselling to their customers' benefit.
>>55534
But they won't have to know where you per se are going. They just need to adjust the speed to the sites according to how they pay up.
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No.55547
>>55545
oh no! that's actually scary
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No.55548
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No.55549
>>55546
So when will the feminazi do smth good for once and allahau akbar the corporate offices of these kikes
Would do two great things for society in one fell swoop
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No.55550
>>55548
how low your data cap is, for you
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No.55551
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No.55552
>>55550
two terabytes does sound really nice
you must be really well off
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No.55556
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No.55557
Oh dear, did RJ manage to steal it?
>>55555
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No.55558
>>55555
>>55554
>>55553
how sad, where are these posts
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No.55559
>>55556
no, nothing to write home about tbh, but I never plan on using to for sex, so doesn't really matter
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No.55560
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No.55563
>>55559
I appreciate the honesty
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No.55564
>>55561
you just bumped the entire thread. at least he didn't do that. just waw.
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No.55565
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>>55562
new thread
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