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Magic: The Gathering thread
Core Set 2020 edition: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/core-set-2020 29 June 2019 release002049
Protection is back! So's uncommon Chandra.
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No.425043
Anyone can tell me if Core 2020 bundle comes with 20 foil lands or not?
My LGS claims it doesn't, and that the bundle is indeitcal to 2019, but wikis claim it comes with 20 foil lands and a oversize dice counter.
So... what one is it?
Any idea if there are regional versions of the bundle or something?
>>425040
Ramos even triggers on a deck full of colourless cards? I mean, if you keep casting colourless spells when Ramos gets +1+1?
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No.425050
>>425043
The core set 2020 bundle appears to have a pack of 20 normal lands, and a pack of 20 foil lands (4 in each colour). I hope you appreciate me suffering through entire minutes of an unboxing video to get that information for you.
>Ramos
Colourless spells have no colour, so Ramos gets 0 +1/+1 counters from them, but there are many coloured affinity spells and many other coloured artifact support spells. He'll probably be pretty big most of the time. The decklist the other anon linked seems pretty extreme, though; you have absolutely zero lands, which seems like a death sentence if your board is ever wiped.
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No.425055
Oh, and we now have the full official announcement regarding the judge academy which is replacing the traditional judge program.
http://archive.fo/92DYk
http://archive.fo/KXeLu
http://archive.fo/BQfgv
Long story short, judge academy will be a "third-party" company that answers to WotC and handles all the infrastructure and paperwork. It'll be run by a guy called Tim Shields, owner of Cascade Games. I tried to dig for something on him, but the most recent posts on his Twitter profile are from 2015, and the most recent posts on Cascade Games's blog are from 2014. Perhaps this means he's dodged the poz until now, but I doubt it.
Highlights from the announcements:
>Contracted roles (Program Coordinators, Regional Coordinators etc) will end on October 1st; many of their tasks will be taken over by employees or contractors of the new organization.
>The organization will have a board of advisors comprised of Judges.
>Wizards will continue to produce Judge Promos but methods of distribution will change.
>The new organization will have a membership fee. (pic related)
>Rules Advisor is being brought back as a recognized certification level
>if you want to judge as a hobby, we will provide online learning, access to event information, forums, and a community with which to connect. However, if you want to make a career out of judging, we will also provide you with an avenue to do so. Starting with Magic and expanding outward, we will work to set up official certifications for multiple games, helping to create multiple revenue streams for those who want to judge Magic and/or other games full time
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No.425064
>>425055
Why does every instinct say that this is a scam?
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No.425065
Pay to Win the Niggering
These packs were loot boxes since the 90s. Notice the guy shilling for this gambling objects to racial slurs
>bigot
>>424315
how much does Hasbro pay to post here bro?
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No.425070
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No.425073
>>425055
>>425064
>labor laws make our "volunteers" legality questionable
>let's make them pay a fee instead of doing it for free!
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No.425074
>>425064
Because it's blatantly a scam.
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No.425090
>>425064
WotC is making people pay to help WotC with their events.
if this isn't a scam, I don't know what is.
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No.425149
>>425065
You are 100% correct.
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No.425150
>>425149
>>425065
Unfortunately, because the game no longer requires ante, it was proven in a court of law in the 90s that it is a skill-based collectible card game.
Fun fact: With lootboxes, they arent considered gambling in Belgiums most recent ruling as long as they arent tradeable. Something to do with them having value. Oh look, Arena is untradeable. Guess what the Jews get to keep on doing?
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No.425153
Damn, I need to start making a reaction image folder out of cards
>Guess I'll Die.jpg
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No.425154
>>425027
I know he's talking about the new hatebear Lavinia, but the thing is that she requires two different colors of mana out on the board to even bring her out. You need that extra mana out almost immediately to play her, so for all intents and purposes, you're using something to get two mana out on turn one. The only way around this is to go first to begin with, but then you're shit out of luck whenever you win G2 and your opp opts to go first the next game and cleans the round.
This is coupled with how broken countermagic still is - most cheap countermagic has some sort of drawback to make it riskier to play (i.e. Mana Leak can be paid for late game), but for very few of them, that drawback is 'the card doesn't go back to the graveyard.' Nobody wants to play Dissipate because no deck wants to need to rely on a three mana counterspell, but that just leaves decks that care about the graveyard, where most countered cards go anyway, inconvenienced, not stopped.
>>425065
>Guy posts that the new packs are a dissapointment
>'Hurr durr ur a Hasbro shill'
>>425153
Karn cards are good for this.
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No.425167
Last chance to buy this before it's a 50 bucks card.
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No.425191
Anyone here has any ideas on how to setup a "coop" MTG variant?
Idea is me and my SO play with our EDH decks against some predefined enemy.
Reason for that is that although she loves playing MTG she gets sour mood when she loses too much... and we don't have a playgroup to bash, so necessarily we defeat each other.
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No.425197
>>425167
I swear to fucking god anon if you're rusing me I will bully you
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No.425201
>>425197
last chance to by ice age starter decks before they hit 1000
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No.425215
>>425191
First, you write like a faggot. Second, try Horde Magic. All you need is a lot of tokens. You and the other players battle an automated deck which vomits an ever-increasing army of tokens. The difficulty is easy to adjust if your girlfriend has a hard time keeping up. It's kind of fun, but obviously you can't play it too many times before it gets kind of old, since the horde deck plays like an automaton dumping cards on the table. There is an article about it in the first result for "Horde Magic" of the search engine I use.
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No.425220
Jund has two showing in T8 so Hogaak is clearly not a problem.
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No.425228
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No.425254
>>425197
>Somebody actually followed the financial advice of a complete anonymous post on a random card
DUDE.
>>425220
The bloody state of Modern smh.
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No.425255
>>425220
Apparently Hogaak is dropping again because of it only being once in the top 8 instead of completely dominating it.
Sage for doublepost.
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No.425264
>>425220
>>425255
Top deck has 3 Relic of Progenitus main, with 4 Leyline of the Void in the sideboard. https://archive.fo/WLbfm
Seems like it dominated the tournament, just that packing graveyard hate was necessary, and they properly read everyone going hard on Hogaak, and other Faithless Looting decks.
>>425153
If the state of the game wasn't so bad, I would be tempted to grab more.
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No.425292
>>425264
>Top deck has 3 Relic of Progenitus main, with 4 Leyline of the Void in the sideboard.
Heh, figured as much.
The thread reached its bump limit apparently, someone should make a new one. Or just wait for the C19 spoilers to start
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No.425293
>>425254
I wanted to set aside $500 CDN to try making a little bit of money off of Magic, completely separate from my collection. I'll track all purchases and trades from that group. If I can make it, great, if not, then it wasn't meant to be.
At the very least Unlimited cards (even if they got reprinted) are old enough to retain some value, so think of it as a $20 break to get my shit started, the other $6 is just throw-in garbage, and $10 shipping. Not too bad
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No.425296
>>425293
If you really wanted to make money, you'd buy up all the foil Twiddles and then sell them when people learn about the deck, either due to it being real or due to that faggot SaffronOlive playing it.
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No.425298
>>425296
I looked through two LGS websites, plus CK and CFB and only found one foil among them all (which I got)
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No.425331
MELANIN POWERED TIME TRAVEL
I think the vampire is ok
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No.425338
Well, here's the pile that I'm gonna run for tomorrow. Turns out I didn't have nearly as many of the cards as I thought. I have Pelt Collectors, so maybe they'd be worth running in a future build?
The idea is to just keep playing spells and generating additional value until I win. Explore package (while not 4-of's) will keep aggro at bay for a while, copying my creatures will hopefully net lots of value, and Neoform acts as a tutor for my 1-of's. I wanted more Glint-Horn Buccaneers so I could take advantage of Benthic Biomancer+proliferate, and as well there's a mini Feather engine in there, to take advantage of Quasiduplicate and Prey Upon with Arcanist (who might get proliferated to more counters)
It's janky but hopefully fun
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No.425345
>>425338
>Goldfish it 3 or 4 times
>Always get the wrong colored mana and just kinda stall and not do anything cool until turn 7 or 8
Welp.
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No.425355
>>425331
>make a neat card
>make it a nigger
I don't even play this game anymore. I used to play EDH but since I moved I lost my playgroup and I don't want to play at the only store in my town and their group. I don't buy cards anymore since I'm budgeting for more worthwhile things.
I am not even sure why I keep going to these threads to feel disappointed, but I still do.
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No.425377
>>425331
Is it me or are the commanders all bland and boring?
The vampire is ok, but we got a vampire tribal commander for vampires.
Morph, flashback and populate aren't exactly the hottest, most interesting keywords to build a commander around.
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No.425378
>>425377
There's probably stronger than the nigger out already, like mizzix, but, a free copy effect is very powerful. Double up on mana, double up on powerful effects, double up on massive draws with stuff like windfall, just double the hell out of the first major spell out of the graveyard and aim to win on that turn.
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No.425384
>>425377
Morph has a lot of cool design potential, especially since the new general is in three colours. We'll see whether or not there are any worthwhile cards in the new deck.
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No.425393
Anybody know a counter against Golgari Explore?
A friend of mine in our casual playgroup bought the challenger deck and edited it a bit.
It's just too powerful, it outcontrols my mono-black deck and it draws too many cards for my Dimir Surveil deck to keep up with.
Only things I can come up with are RDW and mono-blue tempo.
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No.425414
>C19 is the next sneaky product to come out, just before ELD does in the fall
>Pic related is from a supplemental Brawl deck from the fall
>It's not part of the commander shit
WHY
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No.425422
>>425414
Because they want you to buy the new Brawl cards, goy.
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No.425429
back at it again with the commander shit, sorry for the terrible quality. k'rrik looks busted as hell
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No.425438
>>425429
Is there any card in black or colorless that creates a token when you lose life? If so, there's a really easy way to break Krrik with Ashnod's and that plus a card like Exsanguinate.
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No.425441
>>425429
A Swamp, Dark Ritual, and a Sol Ring (or similar fast mana) gets him out turn 1.
Even sneaking him out turn 2 or 3, you could get all sorts of advantage out of him before he dies.
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No.425457
Okay, so I went with pic related, since the last deck I posted was a shitshow. This is a minor tweak of an existing deck I had. SB had Leylines and some Mortifies and 2 more Dovin, and some aggro answers.
>Match 1, vs Dimir Surveil (2-0-0)
Guy was here with his friend, he last played months ago, friend popped into the LGS when it opened a year and a bit ago, but never played. Game 1 had him drop Blood Operatives and usual surveil cards. I managed to Thought Erasure away his Doom Whisperer, but one or two Disinformation Campaigns gave him incremental card advantage. I managed to get him to 2 life, and I was at like 12 or something.
>Play Mobilized District, go
<Swing all in for 7, you go to 5.
>Okay.
>Draw, animate District, swing for lethal
<" ... Oh."
Game 2 almost went to time but I won it just in time. I got Leyline in my OP and stripped him of his threats and answers. I didn't even make that many tokens, so his hand were full of dead cards. Eventually he wiped my field, and then I wiped his field. Ashiok comes down. By about turn 12 or so, Ashiok expired, and between him, surveils, and draws, he only had another 12 cards to go. We both went draw-go for the remainder of the turns and I won handily. Very fun.
>Match 2, vs Izzet Drakes (1-1-1)
Remember this deck? This was the other guy's friend that didn't play, so he had old cards. M1T3 I got out Dovin and stalled him really bad. Kept hoping for that singleton Ashiok but didn't get it. I managed to keep him off balance long enough to win.
Game 2 I OP'd with a Leyline again, and a T5 Dovin. Regular drakes were useless, and I kept my spot removal for Crackling Drake. I won! Or would have if he didn't drop a second Niv's after I killed the first one. He just machinegunned my shit until I died. Gross.
Game 3 went to time and we drew.
>Match 3, vs Grixis Dragons (0-2-0)
Piloted by a literal Timmy and themed around Nicol Bolas. He generated too many extra cards off of Dragon's Hoard, and I didn't have direct answers to Sarkhan or Bolas walkers. I even busted politely on his checkmark cards (he only had 1 actual copy of Bolas, but 2-3 checkmark cards).
He won both games, but the second game was my fault. He's quiet and meek so it was difficult to pay attention to what he was doing. I was checking the time on my phone, he played Bolas, I said okay, then said
<I play Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God
>Okay
<I activate his +1
>Okay
>Wait shit, I have a Negate. Oh well...
>Proceed to spend literally the next 10 turns having him get excessive value and get into the Top 4 for prizes
I was more upset at my misplay, than at losing. It's something I should have been able to stop, but ignored. I always play too fast. He had another in his hand, apparently, but I think he just eventually drew into it too. If he didn't have it out, I wouldve been able to drop 2-3 walkers and do more shit and eventually outpace him.
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No.425458
>>425438
These are the only cards I know of that are remotely close to what you're describing
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No.425469
>>425429
>A card that turns all your black mana into Phyrexian mana
These cards were vintage legal, right?
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No.425516
>>425377
I think they already know they created broken legendaries in previous attempts. So creating a straight forward morph or flashback commander is less of a problem. But I am biased, I have had a soft spot for morph since future sight. shit before was before my time.
>>425429
Proves my point.
>>425469
Vintage and legacy. In addition to EDH.
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No.425532
>>425458
>>425438
What you really want is this.
>Cast creature
>get free 1/1s
>sac for mana
>???
>PROFIT!
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No.425654
At least they gave an iconic character a better card.
Is that a vague Phyrexian symbol I see in the upper left blue part of the background?
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No.425661
I swear, there was a Making Magic article where MaRo went over something like top-down design and designed a fictitious plane of "Communisto" which also included pictures of Stalin. It was around the release of the original Ravnica, like 2006-2008 or so. I CANT FIND IT
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No.425672
Here's a quick shell for standard dredge. Thoughts?
Basically the idea is to self mill to fill up the bin, then cast Izoni or Lotleth Giant for lethal after doming them with a bunch of Creeping Chill. Mausoleum Secrets can tutor a missing piece, and Blood for Bones is almost guaranteed to happen if you get a Narcomoeba out.
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No.425674
>>425672
Actually on second thought, I could keep it B/x if you cut the walls, and rely on reanimation for Izoni, or just stick to Lotleths entirely. I don't have a lot of the rare cards like Gutterbones or whatever the cool kids are playing in their mardu decks
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No.426200
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