No.308131 [Last50 Posts]
As a matter of necessity, /tg/ hobbies crossover with a variety of crafty hobbies. Learning to paint and assemble models and miniatures is a big one, but there are all kinds of other little things we teach ourselves to do in order to enhance our games or increase ease of play.
So, let's have a thread about making crafty things. Props you made for the table. Things you built to contain all the bits and pieces you need for GMing. Dice bowls, deck holders, carrying cases, storage solutions.
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No.308133
Let's start with something so fucking easy that it doesn't even really take any skill to make: Blank cards. A basic little thing that has many uses!
If you want to prototype your own TCG, or make some tokens for your deck these are a cheap and easy way to make some while maintaining a good level of tactile quality so you can shuffle and draw and lay them out as easily as normal cards. Likewise, you could use these to make your own Deck of Many Things, or create a random encounters deck, or a treasure deck, or a crit fail - crit success deck. You could make your own spell cards or hand them out to players to give them a clue to some plot element in the game.
I went to my FLGS and grabbed a pack of sleeves for $1, then I went to the Dollar store and grabbed a deck of playing cards and some note cards, also $1 each. The cards I bought have the corners nipped off, but that doesn't make a difference. You can also use old TCG cards if you want or if it suits your needs. The note cards were also also pretty thin and unlined on either side. You might find the lining useful, so consider that option too.
Step 1) Put a playing card into a sleeve.
Step 2) Fold a notecard in half and then carefully tear or cut it so you have two equal-sized pieces.
Step 3) Put half the notecard in the sleeve
Step 4) Repeat Steps 1 through 3 until you have as many blank cards as you need or until you run out of materials.
At most, this costs you $3 and some change. The playing cards give each sleeve some more substance, meaning you can handle them like normal, unlike painstakingly cutting and trimming notecards and cardstock to be card-shaped, and even then, they still wouldn't feel quite the same as a normal card.
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No.308134
Have been wanting to model my own IG army. Can't actually bring myself to do it though, know it will look like shit and take a century to do since i'm wanting to do blobguard.
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No.308135
>>308134
As in sculpt your own from scratch? Best advice I can offer is to start with the basics. Get some sculpy and some basic tools and practice getting the proportions and shape right, and work your way up to more detailed figures.
Or you can learn 3D modeling and 3D Print your stuff.
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No.308775
Posting this here as well
mega new zealand
#F!tQ1lVBDZ!pB7JRwFPn5ixbR8ELcZ_1w
This is a collection of cosplay related books from Humble Bundle. It contains all kinds of potentially useful information that a suitably inventive fa/tg/uy could put to use.
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No.309171
Here's a little gift for you thrifty anons: a 60% off coupon for Joann craft stores. They also sell paints, brushes, some clay and sculpting type stuff.
If you sign up for their emails, Joann and Michaels Crafts send out at least one 40% off coupon per week. This is nice to save you a few bucks every now and then, but it's especially nice for grabbing tools you might not have.
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No.309280
I made a bunch of minis with bismuth, tin solder, and zinc.
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No.309285
Started some very early preliminary work on a new dice bowl. I posted a little tutorial for this thing ages ago on ye olden /tg/ and then made another one at some other point, but never quite finished or fine tuned the design. The whole thing was a little too big which doesn't work when table space is already hard to come by.
Once I get the measurements and size about where I want it, I'm going to make the whole thing out of 1/8 inch plywood and give the interior a layer of green felt. Maybe stain it and make it look extra fancy.
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No.309289
Before I go to bed: Do consider checking your local crafts store sometime if you haven't already. They sell all kinds of shit you might find useful.. Like every possible kind and color of glass bead, great to use as tokens and placeholders for that homebrew game you're going to make and prototype along with those blank cards I taught you how to make.
You can also find stuff like giant blocks of foam, both floral and styro, great for carving terrain which you can decorate and spice up with some of the decorative stones and beads they sell.
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No.309290
>>309280
That's really fucking cool. Any reason for all that, or did you do just cause you could?
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No.309292
>>309280
Bitchin'. Now show us your casting and moldmaking setups.
>>309285
Hey, I remember you! Glad you made it to the other side.
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No.309293
>>308131
I actually buy the vast bulk of my paint and supplies from craft stores. I use plain artist paint for general purpose colors; most of these places sell empty paint pots, so if I'm using a lot of a certain color that's difficult to mix, I'll just whip up a large batch of it and store it. Things like varnish and mediums can be really expensive, but most craft stores (in the US, at least) give out coupons like candy.
It's disappointing, though, that there's none of them near me. The closest in this area is 25 minutes away on a crappy highway.
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No.309304
Might I suggest Cantilever Organizers and Tool Boxes?
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No.309328
>>309290
Mainly for homebrew hunting game but eventually it became a hobby that led me to learn a bit of metallurgy.
>>309292
Here my set up, it absolutely the minimum that anyone can get with a small budget and a frugal mind set. In a later day I can show ya the process, I do have a previous video on but it shit. So I can make a new one, since I'm making a chess set.
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No.309329
>>309292
Oh yeah, bismuth make for great detail but it absolutely shit when it come durability. So you have mix it with other soft metals.
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No.309331
>>309304
You might!
>>309328
>>309329
Man, your work area is pure chaos… Mine's not much better though.
I'm guessing you just heat up your metals with a propane torch and then dump them straight into the molds?
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No.309342
>>309331
It a electrical heating pot, use to make lures out of lead; all I have to do is wait until it get to a proper melting temperature. For the chaos, I often sleep there.
I don't dump straight away, first I got to prep the mold, with a cotton ball I apply talcum powder on the figure area, this help oxygen to leave the mold and a small extension to the mold shell life. Then using either test pour or heat gun, I warm the mold and prepare it for the actual pour. It recommended to use a oven to warm the mold but I kinda find it more efficient to use those method to pre warm the mold.
Before the mold preparation, getting the metal to proper casting temperature is a must, and knowing the right mix of metal since working with bismuth can be a pain at times, specially when it comes to to mold with weak points.
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No.309349
>>309331
Once the you're ready to pour and have done so, it extremely important to let it cool properly. You no idea how many times I screw up a mini because I got impatient or forgot the cool down time. The mix of metal I have has particular longer cooling time then tin, pewter, and bismuth when use alone.
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No.309351
>>309342
If you haven't checked it out this post >>308775 has a few PDFs about casting and molding. It sounds like you've got a pretty good handle on all the essential skills, but you never know, it might have some trick you haven't thought of yet.
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No.309352
>>309351
Hmm, I can always use advice and new techniques. I give it a download once I get back to my hobby station. Thank anon.
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No.309424
Spent some quality time with the dice bowl. Decided to just go with an all cardboard build for now, and to go with a heptagonal design this time.
Coming together nicely so far.
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No.309458
How coincidental, I'm actually working on making a DM screen for my pokemon game, modeled on the Ruins of Alph. I'd make it out of sturdier materials, but I don't see the point in doing that until I have a place with enough space for a real gaming table.
The idea here is to hollow out the two foam blocks on the bottom and put some kind of lid on top and use that as dice/miniature storage. The sides of the walls will be connected to the main area by hinges, so it can be folded up into a nice 2 square foot package.
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No.309537
I'm about to start the painting part of this minis.
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No.309628
>>309280
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Where do you get your Bismuth?
In the UK it's as expensive as fuck, the only cheaper source I can find is sold as "Bird Shot" for shotgun shells.
I don't have a gun license and (being a Britfag) the only way to obtain one would be to create a parallel universe were I already have a gun license.
I'm recasting these Niggers of the Coast Stormtroopers - so they're metal instead of the super bombastic chinese sweatshop rubber plastic
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No.309676
>>309628
Roto metal
https://www.rotometals.com/lead-free-bullet-casting-alloy-88-bismuth-12-tin/
Im not sure what you would call cheap but this guy's sold me the bismuth at 13(in burger cash) per pound since I bought 10 pound worth of it. They do ship internationally, again I don't know your budget is like nor how much bismuth is worth in bogland.
Also did you made the mold yourself? Did you use a combination of materials or did you use the 2 part commercial crap?
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No.309835
>>309676
Thanks.
I'll probably just bulk order some of Aliexpress or something.
I usually just buy up scrap Pewter on the cheap and then alloy it with Lead - as I have a near infinite supply of free Lead.
>Did you use a combination of materials or did you use the 2 part commercial crap?
I make moulds from RTV Silicone, it's pretty neat stuff.
Not as robust as the Prince August Vulcanized Rubber moulds, but they last fine if you let them cool off a bit.
Plus you can use the same mould for a range of white metals and resins.
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No.311015
How do I into modeling paste? I got a cheap bottle of it on clearance from Michael's, and now I'm not entirely sure how to make use of it.
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No.311017
>>311015
Modeling paste or Molding Paste? Because I think Molding Paste is used to give paintings additional texture and shit. I've never actually used the stuff, though.
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No.311030
>>311017
Says "Modeling Paste HAD" on the bottle.
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No.311031
>>311030
HD as in high definition, not HAD.
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No.311038
>>311030
>>311031
Everything coming up on google is for adding texture and different properties when it's mixed with paint, not actually modeling and sculpting.
I imagine if you were making terrain, you could do some cool stuff with it.
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No.311372
>>309628
Casting my collection of Bones, they've sat in Hydrogen Peroxide for a month.
I want them as conversion parts for Chaos shit - like the "King Khorne" Tank.
Skull mould and one casting is now done.
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No.312006
How does one work with MDF? I see some plain MDF squares and such on Bandua, and it makes me wonder how much effort I would have to put in to make my own buildings and such.
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No.312007
>>312006
MDF is pretty much just like a type of wood.. So you saw it, sand it, glue it, and/or nail it as necessary.
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No.312110
>>312006
This>>312007
But wear a Dust mask (Formaldehyde gives you Cancer.mp3).
And get it primed on all surfaces - it has a tendency to warp, i.e. if you paint only one side and leave the other as exposed wood it'll slowly bow.
A finish a Land Raider mould. I got some sections of Spine cast as well.
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No.314417
Out of curiosity, does anyone have any good guides for buying a 3D printer or links to good tutorials for getting started modeling stuff for 3D printing?
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No.314480
>>312110
Did you make a slush cast, or is that a solid five pound brick of resin?
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No.314530
>>314480
>Did you make a slush cast, or is that a solid five pound brick of resin?
Yeah, I don't like Resin.
It's cast in Herculite Stone, which is a strong chip resistant casting plaster used for outdoor ornaments - much stronger than a brick and weighs just over 1 kg.
If I was going to use Resin I would have slush cast it and then back filled it with foam or something light weight and cheap.
Or just pressure cast it normally and entombed loads of other stuff into it as a filler- sand, rocks, bent rusty nails, the bones of last years dead cat etc.
Nobody cares anyway - the trick is to paint your models just ugly enough that no bugger wants to handle them. Even if someone did handle it and make a fuss I could always use my model as an improved weapon to subdue them.
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No.314532
>>314530
>improved weapon
improvised weapon
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No.314594
>>314532
Something wrong with kludge?
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No.315314
>>314417
There's a book in here >>308775 called make_designfor3dprinting.pdf
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No.324627
Bumpan for crafts. How do you make rubble and wreckage?
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No.324949
>>308131
I did some more work on my Land Raiders.
They're going to have mkii sponsons because that type looks more like the mkiv Tank that the Land Raider's obviously based on - and also resin casting all the small swivelly bits that go to make up the mkiii would drive me insane.
I also made this Chaos Dreadnought thing out of miscast parts and casts of spinal cord, it's going to be a Tyranid Dreadnought/Mecha Suit for Rogue Trader.
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No.327487
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No.329253
I might be trying my hand at sculpting and resin casting minis in the near future. Do any of you have experience with using silicone and dish soap method of mold-making? I'm curious to see if I can make a 2-part mold with the method.
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No.329368
>>329253
I tend to use the Glycerin/Cornstarch one instead, works fine. Not as great as actual mold making Silicone, but good enough.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Using-Silicone-Caulking-to-Make-Molds/
It's the same one as in the /tg guide
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1111199861vfddc/How+to+cast+MiniaturesHQ.pdf
I haven't tried the water dish soap one, making sure you knead enough water into the silicone seems like a pain.
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No.329401
>>329368
The cornstarch method looks like it might be exactly what I'm looking for.
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No.329427
I was going to sculpt a generic little mini, but now I totally want to make this awesome little Goblin Slayer.
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No.329440
>>329427
Seems to be based on the Isle of Lewis chess set, if you need further references.
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No.329759
>>329427
Fucking Sculpey. The more you work with it, the softer it gets.. and then it gets too fucking soft and the slightest bit of extra pressure and it smushes all the details right out. Going to let this guy air dry for a while, then throw him in the oven, refine things a bit with some filing, then see about making a mold.
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No.329869
>>329759
Looks promising - seems to be following the pic fine
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No.329912
>>329869
Still have some work to do, but after firing it in the oven for 15 minutes, it was good for sanding and filing, which was a meticulous process. Also left a few areas too thin and ended up poking through to the tinfoil, so I had to use superglue as a filler.
Weather is kind of shit right now, but if it's nice tomorrow, I'm going to see about making a ghetto-ass mold for this thing and the other little guy using the silicone and cornstarch method.
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No.329931
>>329912
>Dat generic mini
I would buy that shit by the fucking dozen. Also the little Slayer is sweet as hell.
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No.329933
>>329931
Good news! I'm gonna make a mold and cast a bunch of them in Resin!
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No.329934
>>329933
>Two pair of impending Martial goodness.
Kek smiles upon thee and Goblin Slayer
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No.329936
>>329933
Neat. How hard is it to get in to the casting lot? Always wanted to work it some. Mostly for some easy tabletop figures what don't cost me an arm and a leg.
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No.329942
>>329936
I'll have to let you know. As far as I can tell you, making stuff will be harder than figuring out how to make silicone molds and pouring resin.
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No.329962
Learning to sculpt. Doing a chaos spawn that's tearing it's self apart so you can see all it's insides as a demon tears it's way out of it.
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No.330128
After some trial and error, I got the cornstarch and silicone method to work. It's trickier than it seems. I made a couple shitty, quicky molds and set them up with some resin. I'll have photos of the results in about an hour, assuming my shitty mixing of the resin didn't completely fuck things up.
While we wait, some thoughts… The silicone and corn starch method is an imprecise technique. It's hard to gauge the exact amount of material you'll be left with and it alternates between being doughy and soft.. and sticky as shit while working it. With the right setup and premade molds/containers, you might be able to make it work, but for the level of effort, the cost of 2-part mold making silicone might be worth it.
If you're going to do it, I suggest getting everything ready ahead of time. Have your object, your container, and your tools ready. When mixing it, do the silicone and the coloring separate at first. I just squirted in some paint and mixed it with a stick until the stick started to easily slip out of the silicone rather than getting stuck in it, then I dumped the whole thing in a huge bowl full of corn starch (pre-prepared, of course).
Once the stuff is closer to play-doh in consistency, you can probably just cram your object in there, smush it in carefully to cover all the nooks and crannies, and then wedge it in something, like some tupperware, and just leave it alone for like 20 minutes and it will be fully cured. If you don't make enough to fill a container (a problem I had) you CAN mix a second batch and smooch it on top. It will stick nicely and fuse as one piece. If you end up with a smaller mold that won't fit a container, this is where things get tricky. You're going to have to consider, on the spot, how you will use this thing as a mold, where your pour hole will be, how it will stand up, how thick the walls of the thing are. If things are too thin, it will make opening up and re-closing the thing for filling with resin extra tricky… It's an issue I just had, in fact.
What you might be able to get away with is slowing the fuck down and approaching your mold in layers. The coloring will be wonky, but smaller batches applied around your object a little bit at a time will allow you to eliminate air bubbles and ensure that the silicone is smooshed closely enough, while also being thick enough to act as a proper mold. This is how I intend to do the Goblin Slayer mini.
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No.330134
>>330128
Welp. Fuck me.
Short version of the story: I had a kit that included 2-part mold silicone and 2-part resin. It was sitting in storage for so long that one of the bottles sprang a leak and then crusted over. Ruined the whole box but most of the supplies were still usable. I guess the leaking resin bottle was completely ruined because instead of creating resin, it created styrofoam that forcibly expelled part of the mixture.
I've got a test batch curing on the side to see if I just mixed it badly, but I think I just might need to buy a whole new kit.
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No.330138
>>330134
Just checked. The resin mixture is fucked. Even when left alone in a cup, it turns into lumpy, styrofoam-ish cottage cheese looking crap.
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No.330228
>>330138
Tried to salvage the shitty pull with some wood glue. It bonds well enough but it will always look like it survived the Gulf War.
Got my hands on some new resin from the craft store (had a 50% off coupon) and got a much better pull, but the mold itself isn't all that great.. But still, progress! It's a pretty fun, if messy, little distraction.
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No.330247
Any good reasonably inexpensive methods for making hexes for bases? Most results come up with just sculpting it out of greenstuff or whatever, which seems a bit too impractical for my tastes and doesn't look quite as good as, say, plastic.
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No.330259
>>330228
Success!
Made a new mold with a new set up. Went through the remainder of my silicone caulk, but it worked out. It's ugly as sin, but with the cardboard tube, there's no worries about leaks or issues with the mold going back together.
First pull got fucked up, because the resin started to cure inside the pour hole. This shit sets way too fast.
After adding a second air channel, the second pull gave me the kind of results I've been trying to get, with only minimal flashing and air bubbles, though it did overflow like a mother fucker.
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No.330451
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No.330548
>>330451
Quality of my pulls from either mold have been spotty. I keep running into the issue of the bases not filling completely, so I have to add more resin to them, which just makes things messy. I've got a different mold making material that I'm going to try later, but so far, I've got a few decent enough results.
I need to come up with a way to make a decent base for the Goblin Slayer mini and stop wasting time practicing on these generic dude.
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No.335207
After a lot of being lazy and not doing any work on it, I started working on the Goblin Slayer mini again. Ran into the issue of needing a lathe but not having one.. So I settled on wrapping a wad of sculpey around a tinfoil coil and then using a large PVC pipe to make it properly cylindrical.. and after cooking it, I carefully and meticulously carved and leveled the rounded base by hand.
While working over the mini to make sure it looked okay, I ended up poking a few holes in it, because the material was so thin. I ended up using a neat little trick I learned from youtube prop makers. If you mix baby powder and super glue, you can get a pretty nice filler material. I've currently got some of that drying so I can go over and smooth out problem areas. Works really, really nicely, but the fumes can sting like a motherfucker if you're not wearing googles and a dust mask.
Also, I finally got around to fully assembling a lasercut dice bowl. I had temporary access to a laser cutter and I quickly threw together the rough schematics for a dice bowl. Didn't properly account for the thickness of the material which fucked everything up. I needed to remove a lot of material and use a lot of wood filler to make up for it. Sealed up the whole thing with a wash of wood glue and now I'm debating if I should paint it for stain it.
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No.335350
>>335207
Don't worry based /tg/kun, I remember your efforts. Keep going and etsy that shit.
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No.335360
>>335350
Got my silicone in the mail today and the package was fucked up. One of bottles leaked because it wasn't properly sealed in the first place.
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No.335555
Got my silicone situation straightened out, meaning I just got $60 worth of silicone and resin for free because they sent me a fucked up package.
Aside from the Goblin Slayer mini, I'm not sure what else to make. I could sculpt some more generic minis or coins or chits or something… Tell me, /tg/, what sort of shit should I make to replicate?
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No.335586
>>335555
Well mr. QUADS you could make /tg/ liche, a chibi angry marine, a crowned crow, thicc Ammit, the double diamonds of our chan, a garden of Gondola, or maybe a holy hand grenade D1.
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No.335678
>>335586
All interesting ideas! The Gondola, in particular, strikes me as a unique challenge. He'd need to be flexible and posable.. I wonder if I could do a reverse mold where I pour silicone into a hard mold.
Also, I've got good news…
MOLD SUCCESSFUL
I was kind of worried when I found myself rushing because I mixed way too much silicone last night and had to scramble to find other shit to slop with purple goop.. but I went and used some of my cheap craft store resin and the results are fantastic. Besides a few bits of silicone that got into each mold during the cleaning process, the results are.. pretty damned perfect.
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No.335879
After some cleaning and repair on my first few pulls, I decided to try a little painting and weathering. I'm a little iffy on the results.
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No.336034
>>335879
A wash of just black yields unimpressive results. A coat of black with a treatment of gold rub n buff on top looks phenomenal.
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No.336037
>>336036
1) It's not okay. Discord fucking sucks.
2) Wrong fucking threads
3) We don't care. Fuck off.
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No.336038
>>336034
Noice. I suspect you'll have a lot of google translated requests for purchase if you tweeted this at the creator or posted it somehow to 2/5ch.
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No.336039
>>336038
Shipping to Japan would be tricky and pricey.. I guess it's time to set up that Etsy shop. I might need to track down some packing materials first, though. I don't do twitter, so I guess I'll have to get one of you to tweet it at the writer for me.
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No.336446
The gold isn't necessarily accurate, but damned if it doesn't look amazing.
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No.337119
>>336446
Got my shipping supplies. Stuff is officially up on etsy for the one of you who were interested. Just search "Goblin Slayer"
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No.337123
>>337119
Your shilling was successful. Order placed.
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No.337125
>>336446
>>336034
Mother of god, that's amazing. I almost want to get one for my stepfather, who DMs in his spare time. Some suggestions for other minis would be other 'generic' minis (Like the little pawn-looking dude but different shapes, like cubes, or wider bodies, in different sizes, etc) for DMs who want to differentiate between THIS kind of asshole and THAT kind of asshole. So happy to see that the earlier failure wasn't the end of the project.
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No.337129
>>337119
Mind telling how you made then and what material you used? I'm not looking for a full guide, I just want to know if I could make custom figures for myself.
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No.337135
>>337123
You're too kind. I'm doing everything in my power to get this in the mailbox today.
>>337125
The Goblin Slayer is too large to be used on a traditional 1" grid, but I could work up some more generic game pieces like this guy I did >>330548
>>337129
Original figure was basic sculpey over a tinfoil form, fired in my oven for about 15 minutes, then carved, sanded, and detailed further by hand with needle files. Mold made out of OOMOO 30 silicone, then cast in Smooth-on Smootcast 300
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No.337142
>>337135
Nice, thank you very much for the advice.
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No.337208
Thanks for allowing me to shill and dominate this thread. I wasn't really expecting to turn this into a business, but I would very much like to make more things people want. Game pieces, tokens, minis, coins, and such.
>>337125
I'm by no means an expert, but I can tell you that it's a little more daunting and intimidating than it really is. Watch a few tutorials on youtube (smooth-on and other suppliers usually have a lot of them) and find some propmaker channels that do stuff on mold making.
It doesn't hurt to spend a little money on cheap materials to get your hands dirty, either. One way I avoid burning money is buying certain materials from the dollar store (nitrile gloves, sanding blocks, tinfoil, wax paper, etc) and then I used the 40% coupons that craft stores like Michaels and Joann give out daily to get my hands on stuff like 2-part resin. I just saw recently that they also have some mold-making putty that you mix by kneading which wouldn't hurt to experiment with if a full smooth-on silicone kit is too intimidating or expensive.
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No.337771
Got here this morning. The chibi nature plays tricks on the mind, and even in side by side comparison with standard marine it is actually larger than my brain lets it be. Wat da fug. Also, very nice feel, that's a good resin mixture. If I didn't know better I'd have thought it was carved out of palm nut or such.
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No.337774
>>337771
Glad you got it in one piece! The whole etsy thing was surprisingly easy to get going and it worked out nicely. A friend recently commented on the size of it too, believing that I'd blown it up to a larger size than what he'd seen before. Not sure how I pulled off that wizardry.
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No.337791
>>337771
Looks sweet! I love the wood look to it.
Unfortunately, I'm too poor to really buy one myself. Might take a crack at carving one from wood, though. Got a bit of old oak I had for a project lying around what'd probably work pretty well.
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No.337870
>>337791
They aren't flying off the shelves right now, so come holiday time, I could set up a sale or create a coupon code of some kind.
Right now, the projects I've got laid out are to make some generic minis and maybe try my hand at a /tg/-tan mini. My plan for the generic minis is to sculpt the bodies first, separate from a base, cook those, sand, file, and refine them, mold & cast those, clean up again, then attach different shaped heads and make a mold for the different types, so they can be easily made in batches.
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No.337927
Things are coming along. /tg/-tan's head is looking a bit larger than it should be, though. Also, I'm trying to figure out a way I could make his hat so it would be able to survive having a match-head or something similar placed in it, for that flaming effect.
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No.337934
>>337927
Head needs to be more angular to be honest.
Hat problem, could make the whole figure hollow with a few outlets as a holder for pic related.
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No.337937
>>337934
The way I've learned to work with sculpey involves getting most of the broad details while it's soft, then cooking it and carving in the remaining parts. Still trying to decide if I want to go for the hard mechanical look or the cartoon rounded look.. Could probably do both and see how they look. It's a really small amount of material, after all.
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No.338140
I'm at a little bit of a stand-still with the generic minis. I've made some progress, made some molds for the basic sizes, bases, and so on.. then ran out of material to make molds for the head pieces. Then I got more silicone!.. Now I'm just dreading the process of producing several of each, painstakingly cleaning, refining and prepping them (gotta get rid of all the air bubbles and inconsistencies), then molding those.
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No.339815
Took a break from the generic minis to work on /tg/-tan. The top hat is giving me the biggest problem.
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No.339849
>>339815
My misgivings were for nought, his face looks fine.
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No.339880
Made this lil guy a long time ago as a character piece.
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No.339938
>>339880
The figure it made of wood, but what do you have him wrapped in for the armor?
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No.339944
>>339938
Had a spare piece of leather to wrap around with a spot of glue for the shirt and the vest/pants were leftover from kids craft stuff I had lying around from years ago. It was those craft foam sheet things, the peel and stick kind but you can get it without the peel and stick glue stuff. (I didn't want the sticky one so I could take off the clothes and change them if need be.
skull is just that flat cereal box style cardboard that I drew with a pen on.
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No.339947
>>339944
I've done some work with craft/EVA foam. It's great stuff.
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No.340023
Anyone here make stuff for LARP?
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No.341167
Worked up a staff for ol' Teej and.. It's too fucking big. And this is after painstaking shaping the smallest wooden bead I could find into a d20. I'm either going to have to drastically modify his right arm or change the staff somehow. I'm not eager to do either.
>>340023
I've made some basic duct tape and foam boffer swords for my little nephews and cousins to beat the shit out of each other, but that's about it.
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No.341172
>>341167
It is a bit big, but I think it still looks nice. Is there no way to salvage what you've got?
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No.341173
>>341172
A lot of sanding and shaping could bring it down in size. Nothing is finalized yet, so it's still possible to tweak it.
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No.341188
>>341167
I don't know what you're talking about, it looks fine. This figure is, what, an inch or two tall? The features need to be a little bit exaggerated to read well.
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No.341190
>>341188
Well, dubdubs, the big problem is that it occupies and overlaps a lot of the space with the hat. If I scoot it down, it covers his face. If I move it higher up, it will look awkward and likely cause problems when I have to mold it. The hand and staff will have to be a separate piece anyways, but it's still something I need to think about.
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No.341546
Tried a couple different staff heads. This one is the smallest and causes the fewest problems without having to completely rebuild his right arm.
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No.341938
Progress has been made. Discovered if you heat up Sculpey in the stove, it regains some of it's pliability. Not very much, but some. Enough for me to pry the right arm over just a little bit. I cleaned that little part out, wedged some more sculpey in there, cooked it, and I was good to go again.
A little more cleaning and tweaking and detailing, a couple coats of primer to reveal the trouble spots and clean up some of the texturing, and I'm just about ready for final assembly and moldmaking.. Which is really daunting because this guy might have to be a 2-part mold.
I'm almost reluctant to glue the hat on, but it doesn't sit snugly enough on his head to be cast separately.
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No.342745
2-part mold: Mostly successful
Casting and pulling from it: some difficulties
Mass production?: Possibly.
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No.342752
>>342745
Noice.
I suggest material and finish that alludes to mime tier black & white if possible. Seems he looks best in pics with high contrast
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No.342757
>>342752
I can only really cast in a single color. I'm debating if I should even sell them painted. Even tinting resin is tricky, because it cures to white, so any pigment added to it gets diluted. At best, I could maybe get him to a medium-gray if I got my hands on some pigments.
I think the goal for now is to get one solid, acceptable pull with as few air bubbles and imperfections as possible.
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No.342893
>>342745
You'd get less bubbles on the staff if you slope it downwards and add vents - like pic.
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No.342901
>>342893
Yeah, putting the staff in with the first mold was wishful thinking on my part. I've still got some silicone though, so making another mold is just a matter of time and patience.
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No.343254
>>342893
Followed this advice, made a new mold, got great results. I've got a few really good pulls so far, but I think no matter what I do, there's always going to be a few tiny ones in there. It's such an intricate mold with so many places for them to get stuck no matter how I rotate and vibrate and jiggle the mold. I'm considering cutting in a second air vent to see if that helps at all.
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No.343529
>>343254
I'm getting so many damned air bubbles from the Teej-tan mold mold and it's fucking up so many of my pulls now. They can be patched up and repaired, to an extent, but I'm going to have a very limited number of acceptable results to offer.
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No.343816
Problems solved. Listing going up soon. Hope you don't mind me continuing to dominate this thread.
As long as I'm here though, I've got quite a few pulls from the mold that have noticeable air bubbles and blemishes. Considering adding a variant listing at a cheaper price for those who would be up to repairing and customizing a Teej on their own. I know some of you are quite talented when it comes to painting and greenstuff sculpting.
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No.345113
>>343816
Been fucking around in between holiday stuff. Managed a half-assed slushcast for the possibility of putting lights in a hollow teej, but the results weren't great. I think I fucked up the resin somehow.
Decided to say 'fuck it' and added a variant on the etsy store for the messed up pulls I've accumulated. They've all got different little problems but are mostly serviceable. A little green stuff and some sanding, and they'll be perfectly fine. I just don't think it's worth the time to try and fix so many of them when I can just go ahead and cast another, better one.
Here's the catch, though. I've set up a coupon for $5 off. If etsy works the way I think it does, it means you only have to pay shipping if you want one of these ugly little fuckers. Likewise, if you wanted one of the Goblin Slayers, there's $5 off for that too.
Find my shit on etsy, use the code FATGUY8 and you should get that discount.
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No.345120
>>345113
Sweet! I will definitely be picking one up when I get home.
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No.345123
>>345113
Love the look of the internal light variant. It's silly, not really very pretty or such, but for some reason it makes me smile.
If I might ask, what exactly do you use for most this stuff, as far as finishing goes? Just a regular file, as is in that picture, or anything else?
I've tried some stuff like this before, but any attempt at cleaning always seemed to roughen everything up too much.
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No.345128
>>345123
I have a set of small needle files that do most of the work when it comes to shaping and detailing for the original sculpt and the resin cast copies and I use some dollar store sanding sponges to help cover larger areas. With most of these, it's just a matter of sanding/filing off the seam lines, using a tiny hand drill and an exacto blade to clean out the little holes, and picking away the little air bubble beads with my fingernail.
If you're not careful, you can easily end up leaving some little sanding lines, but it just takes a little practice to avoid. It's tricky to explain because it's a tactile thing you learn from working with the material and tools.
Doing a slushcast to make a hollow teej wasn't too hard, but for some reason, the resin came out faintly sticky and soft, long after it should have hardened. I ended up snapped off the brim of his hat while trying to carve the hole in his back. Also stabbed my thumb a few times while doing that.
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No.345685
Thanks so much to all the fa/tg/uys who have not only tolerated my shilling, but also threw me a few shekels. I just ordered more resin and I'm plotting some different minis to work on, but I think eventually, it might be more polite to stop using this thread as free advertising.
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No.345847
>>345685
> it might be more polite to stop using this thread as free advertising.
Screw that. Don't worry about it. This board needs more content anyway, there are Mongolian Ferret Breeding Forums with more traffic than this place.
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No.345857
I'm playing Shadowrun 3e where initiative is constantly changing. As such I bought these blank ID cards to use as initiative cards; they're durable as hell, don't seem to stain, and will probably last me for all my DMing days. Best of all I got a ton of them for around $10. Highly suggest it if you're looking for initiative cards for games with more complex initiative systems.
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No.345902
>>345857
Two questions
1)Where did you buy them from?
2) What are you using to mark them? Do they hold ink well, or are you using dry erase markers? Or Sharpie? Or..?
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No.345928
>>345902
1) Bought them off Amazon, search PVC ID cards (some are cheaper than others so hunt around a bit, obviously they don't need to be top quality)
2) I use Wet Erase and Dry Erase and they take both very well. Clear, legible. If you wanted to use something more permanent then I assume it would take it well as well given these cards are designed to be printed on (as like an employee ID, they have special printers for them).
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No.346133
Lich arrived today
Suck it fags, says I'm his favorite customer
Good birthday
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No.346135
>>346133
Everything arrived alright, I'm hoping? If you paint him up or customize him, I'd love to see it.
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No.346172
>>345685
I wouldn't worry about it, bro. /tg/ doesn't get enough actual content like this, as it is. Besides, your stuff's inspired me to get back in to crafting. I've started whittling some again, in the hopes of maybe carving some figures I could use easily enough in games.
Picture somewhat related. Carved this little guy on the right a few days ago. Might do a bit more with it, but for now, I think it works as a fairly decent little generic figure.
On an unrelated note, the lich has a very downward gaze. Makes him a massive pain in the ass to picture. Looks great, though. Got one with the minor defects, and most of them are the type of thing I wouldn't even notice were it not for the circles around them. I think there were five spots in total, and only two are going to need any real work I'd say.
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No.346174
>>346172
A little greenstuff, a little bit of sanding, and he'll be good to go. A lot of the defects weren't severe problems, but if I took the time to repair each one and superglue up all the little defects, it would be taking away time from other projects, when I could just cast another one and do it right. Plus, I doubt people would want a figure that's looking a little patchy unless they specifically wanted to fix it themselves.
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No.347189
Well, the molds are a mixed bag. Not unusable, but each pull does require a bit of work. The biggest problem is that the pegs for their necks come out smaller than the originals, which means the slots on the heads are too loose to hold them on with friction. They glue on just fine, but it's disappointing that I spent all that time getting them sized right, only for this to happen.
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No.348574
>>347189
It's too bad you are having so much trouble with these. I really like how substantial they are.
Thanks for sending me one, I would love to buy more.
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No.348591
>>348574
The one I sent you was made with the cheaper resin. It casts well enough, but takes about a full day before it completely sets and solidifies, but if I use smoothcast 300, I should be able to churn them out more quickly. The problems I'm grappling with are all about how I'd sell them. The one I sent you was already glue together, but the friction fitting didn't work out, so I'd either have to sell them pre-assembled or not and tell people to glue them on their own (not a big deal, I guess). Which then raises the issue of how to go about selling the different heads and body sizes.
I think I'm just being a lazy faggot and overthinking things, but since I'm using etsy, that's also posing certain problems when it comes to listing and allowing people to purchase the exact quantities and individual pieces they want.
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No.348612
>>348591
I have never worked with resin, but I have worked with wood and glue. Making people glue wouldn't be worst thing in the world.
So long as they understand they have to assemble themselves and have very well defined peg and hole to make sure they are seated correctly.
You would be supervised how many people love the "And I put it together" feeling. Or charge more for pre-assembled and make more work on yourself.
As for esty listings:
What we did to sell santa letters is bundle them in groupings and then have the quantity be additional letters.
So, for example: if the parents needed eight letters. They would find the listing for five and put the quantity three. Then in an message put in details about children and how the their names are spelled.
It worked for most part. Until all the different forms of Aiden made it very hard to keep track. Fuck you Ayden and Aden.
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No.350247
Man.. if I'm going to do this sort of thing with any hope of making money and not just spending it all on materials, I'm going to have to seriously step up my game in some way… But for the past few days, I've been building up a stock and finally decided to just bite the bullet and list the damned things. I decided to just list them all as one general batch with options for greater quantities with a slight price break and instructions to tell me what types you want.
I ended the other coupon code, but I'll give you faggots the next best thing. Until the 25th, all orders get free domestic shipping with the coupon code MERRYTEEJMAS. Feel free to call me a faggot and berate me for shilling so damned much.
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No.350268
>>350247
Hey, do you still have the weathered Goblin Slayer Statuettes?
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No.350270
>>350247
There's a pretty fat difference between shilling and providing a service anon. Rock on with your little dudes; I'd buy 'em if I wasn't a broke fuck.
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No.350283
>>350268
I've got a few of the gold and silver ones already made, and I have a couple unpainted ones that could be given the weathering treatment after some cleaning up.
>>350270
It's still shilling either way. I love /tg/ and want to make things that fa/tg/uys will like, but at the same time, I don't want to go down the road of the happy merchant and abuse the good will I've built up.
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No.350305
>>350283
As long as you aren't being overtly jewish and constantly bumping the thread mostly just to ask people to buy your stuff, I think you'll be fine. You've been showing us a lot more of the crafting process and what you've been learning from it than shilling.
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No.350306
>>350305
This. Updates on crafting technique are the best way to keep from appearing like a kike
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No.350310
>>350306
>>350305
In that case, lemme share some of the knowledge I've accrued in the mass production process.
Since I've been working with lots of resin and mixing lots of the stuff in small batches, I've figured out a few things that I didn't learn from watching shit on youtube. Specifically, tweaking the mix ratio. 2-part resins are typically mixed in a 1:1 ratio. Some are 10:1, but I haven't touched those. The Part A of the mix is usually a kind of yellow-ish color with a watery consistency, while the Part B is thicker, more like a syrup.
If your ratio is off and you have a little bit more part B than A, you get a gummier result that takes much longer to cure. I haven't toyed with it much, but in the few instances where I fucked up hard, I ended up with a faintly, semi-translucent resin that stayed soft for hours after it should have turned rock hard. I might see what I can do with that for making stuff that lights up.
Now, if you get more Part A than B.. you're fine. The A seems to be the hardener that kicks off the curing process after a few minutes. Having a little bit more A won't harm your mix and I feel like it's better safe than sorry to have just a skosh more of the stuff.. But then again, we're talking about very small batches of resin. Most I mix at a time when filling a few of these molds at a time is about 20mL (10mL of each).
Incidentally, I've noticed while mixing resin that a fully mixed batch turns cloudy for a moment, then goes more clear. If you can still see little streaks of the syrupy part B, keep mixing.. but if you feel the mixing cup starting to warm up, you need to start pouring quickly.
Something else I've taken to doing, at least when I'm mass producing, is keeping pulls with defects in them (air bubbles, dents, etc) nearby, so when I get to the bottom of my little mixing cup, I can take a toothpick or popsicle stick and scrape up little bits of not-yet-cured resin, and dip it into the problem areas. Usually I just glob on a bit of the stuff because it can be sanded down later. In a few instances, I did a lousy job cutting the bases free, so I just dipped them directly in the resin and then set them down on a sandwich baggy (because it's smooth and resin doesn't stick to it) and then cleaned up the bases with a sanding sponge once the new material had fully hardened. And yes, even if the resin is fully cured, a second batch applied on top will stick and adhere as if it were all one piece, as long as the surface is relatively clean.
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No.350315
>>350310
Have you tried or is it even possible to use different colored resin? If you're making a bunch of generic pieces it would be logical to use a bunch of different colors instead of being forced to paint them.
I bought some of your stupid shit you better not give my info to the CIA.
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No.350316
>>350315
I've seen people tinting clear resins with food coloring and I know they make special resin pigments (which are kind of pricey), but the big problem with adding coloring to the kind of resin I'm using is that it cures bright white, which means any color I add will be faded out badly. So if I add a bunch of black dye to the mix, it will turn gray when it cures. If I can find some food coloring, I'll toy around with it and post results.
Your business is greatly appreciated and your kind offering of shekels humbles this simple merchant.
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No.350370
>>350316
Polyurethane Resins need oil based pigments.
The Humbrol Enamels work fine.
Epoxy Resins usually aren't too fussy.
And Polyester Resins aren't fussy at all, you can dye them with pretty much anything.
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No.350489
>>350315
If you're the guy who wanted the black weathered goblin slayer, check your messages.
>>350370
Thanks for the heads up.
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No.350494
Shelf sitting Gondola when?
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No.350497
>>350283
How long does it take to do the weathering treatment. Was thinking about ordering one, but i'm fine with waiting until a weathered one is ready. Going to be out of town for a little over a week anyway.
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No.350500
>>350494
Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to sculpt, but would be tricky to make a mold for it. I'll add it to the list.
>>350497
The weathering process takes less than an hour, really. The problems I'm having right now are that the mold has started to degrade, meaning the figures cast from it are kind of a mess and time consuming to repair, I'm out of silicone, and I'm low on resin. I need to make a new mold and spend some time touching up the original to avoid all the problems I've been having. Might take a while.
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No.351113
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No.352398
>>351113
The size seems good, but the eyebrow ridges are too much for my tastes.
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No.352400
>>351113
>>352398
The beauty of gondola is there's really no wrong way to make a gondola
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No.352578
Been busy on and off with some other stuff and Christmas, of course. The old Goblin Slayer mold was starting to wear down and give shitty results, so I decided I'd just make another one to avoid all the problems I'd been having. Since I'm making a new mold, I figured it would probably be best to improve the original sculpt.
See, when I launched into this, I already kind of knew what I was doing when it came to making stuff, but I didn't have a ton of experience working with sculpey. Some areas were too thin and broke through, so I had the brilliant idea to fill them with super glue and then carve them to shape. This did work, but CA glue is harder than baked sculpey and harder to work with. What I learned later ( >>341938 ) is that you can literally just jam fresh sculpey on top of baked sculpey and cook it again and it bonds pretty damned well.
So I've been tearing up and rebuilding the Goblin Slayer, one section at a time. Only problem now is that I'm considering redoing the legs entirely…
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No.355756
>>352578
Fuck. It's been a while, hasn't it? I've been staying busy and fine-tuning the Goblin Slayer to sate my own autism.
Re-made the sword and shield. Fucked up my mold after trying to get one more decent casting out of it, but the resin went wonky on me, so I jammed a tea-light in there. Broke his legs then rebuilt them. Then fine tuned the whole damned thing for a few days before priming and prepping the little guy for a new mold… and now he's currently sitting in about 11 fl oz of silicone, which should be cured sometime tomorrow.
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No.357591
New Goblin Slayer is molded, casted, and ready to go… and with that done, I've started work on something new.
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No.357596
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No.358678
>>357596
Thoughts? Critiques? Suggestions?
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No.358683
>>358678
You gave it a fivehead.
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No.358686
>>358683
Nothing that can't be fixed, but it's something that kind of happened as I was working it into shape. That longer body became less proportional and longer looking the more I slimmed and tapered him down into a more cylindrical shape.
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No.358850
>>358678
>>358683
Fivehead downgraded.
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No.358875
>>358850
The face is a bit too low. Otherwise its great.
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No.358878
>>358875
Depends on the interpretation. Gondolas come in many sizes and configurations.. though having the face closer to the top curve of the head is pretty common.
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No.358894
>>358850
My only complaint is that the mouth is a bit too open to give the melancholy feeling of gondolas.
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No.358896
>>358894
I need to patch up a small problem with one of the eyes (there's a little hole/crack right next to it) so I can take the time to fix up the mouth a little and bring the top of the head down further.
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No.358926
/tg/ crafts? fuck yes
I'm an old LARPer - made all kinds of shit myself. Steel plate armor, latex weapons. Good times
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No.358927
>>358926
fuck I had so much fun making all my shit…
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No.358944
>>358927
Aren't you Hungarian Larpfag?
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No.358950
>>358927
How do you make hammers like that? I want one
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No.358955
>>358950
Not him, but I'm going to guess… Probably EVA foam with a layer of paint-on latex. Everything else is all in the paint job.
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No.359012
in progress killa kan made out of a plastic bottle, chopstics and a few little pieces of foam
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No.359184
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No.359265
>>359184
Pic unrelated I hope.
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No.359270
>>359184
yours looks like a bark gambeson.
the only think I really hate is the stubs, old lamelar armor had those because they kept the small plates on the inside of the armor in place. you would never wear this without an actual gambeson underneath.
all in all it looks silly.
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No.359291
I've got a box of old gunpla models I built when I was younger and Gundam Wing was still airing. I've been debating on what to do with them for a while, but I think I might make an attempt at kitbashing them into something new. I was thinking of doing something like styling them after fantasy archetypes, so something like a Wizard Gundam or a Barbarian Gundam.
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No.359350
The new mold gave me hell, but it turns out some fantastic results.
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No.359491
>>359350
That's amazing anon. Think those could work as noodle cup holders?
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No.359492
>>359491
For holding down the paper lid? I think he might be just a bit too heavy.. Tell you what, I've got some instant ramen and I'll make an attempt tomorrow and let you know the results.
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No.359494
>>359491
>sitting gondola figure that hold down instant noodle lids
I didn't know I wanted this before.
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No.359497
>>359491
anon thank you. true visionary of our times.
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No.359504
>>359350
>>359491
I was planning on buying two, but if that's that works I may just throw my wallet through the computer holy shit
Doing God's work, this divine observer made manifest.
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No.359609
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No.359615
>>359609
>the_greatest_scientific_invention_of_the_21th_century.mp4
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No.359623
>>359615
I've been using my cheap resin for these first few guys, but I'm going to bust out the good stuff for the actual production run. As long as the resin kit doesn't dick me again by shorting my several fl oz of one of the parts, I should be able to produce a couple dozen of these guys. Painting them will be a different matter though.. I'm tempted to get some brown spray paint, but it's cold as hell. Hand painting seems to be the way to go, but that's also tedious.
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No.359630
>>359623
I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but if you're gonna use them with instant noodles like that make sure your materials and paints are heatproof.
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No.359637
>>359630
I didn't intend for them to become little ramen caddies but that's definitely something to keep in mind. I tried doing a little test paint and it's immediately apparent that the cheap resin doesn't like paint at all.
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No.359677
>>359623
>bust out the good stuff for the actual production run
Would dental stone work, or would that destroy your mold?
>>359623
>Painting them will be a different matter though.
What about mixing dye into the resin?
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No.359688
>>359609
behold the work of the one blessed by the omnissiah.
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No.359692
You are you faggots and your fine digits!
>>359677
The "good stuff" in this case would be Smoothcast 300, a 2 part resin that gives super clean and sturdy results. Durable stuff that sands clean and holds paint pretty well in my experience. I'm actually curious to see how much it changes the weight of the piece too.
>What about mixing dye into the resin?
Haven't invested in the right kind of dyes yet. I probably should.
>>359688
Hail the Omnissiah!
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No.361171
Many a gondola were made. Some mistakes were made. The weather fucked with my ability to paint things. Gondola became the masketta man. Might have a batch ready sooner, rather than later.
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No.361173
>>361171
I'm curious, did you try anything to heatproof them?
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No.361174
>>361173
I've got a clearcoat that I haven't applied yet which should make them suitably heatproof. Just as long as you aren't microwaving them I guess.. Should go without saying that you should not eat off of a gondola.
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No.361283
I've been trying to scratch build and cast some maschinen krieger type stuff recently
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No.361285
>>361283
They're so big and clunky… I love them.
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No.361291
>>361171
I like the sense of quantity we have here.
you are gondola rich
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No.361349
I've started casting more gondolas so I can paint a big fucking pile of them all at once before the weather goes to shit on me and makes it too cold to get away with leaving these guys in the garage with a space heater on them.
Left is a fresh coat of 'satin' 2-in-1 primer paint because home depot doesn't sell matte lightish brown primer, apparently. Right is the same paint, plus acrylic paint for the face details, under a layer of matte enamel primer. It really brings down the intensity of the brown and makes everything look much cleaner. Unfortunately, I fucked it up a little bit and tried to touch it up, which is why the top of his head looks a little wonky. Should do the trick for making the paint more durable and heat resistant too.
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No.361351
>>361349
…and I forgot my image.
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No.361360
Hey guys I'm working on converting a Khornate fantasy army into a 40k one. Specifically the BLoodbound mudergang or whatever you can get. With a scalpel and some green stuff I stuck a Skullcrusher Knight's head onto the Slaughterpriest (thought a headdress with skulls was more fitting for something called a priest) and used some cut up sprews to make a street-block thing as a base, then covered that with spare bits from my bloodhound gang and dark eldar army from many years ago. Also had a random Aquila lying around and tried to make a flag with ribbons at the end of it, draped at the end of the base. Haven't used green stuff much so trying to keep it simple. I know on the neck it looks terrible, thinking of making some sort of collar to cover it up or resculpting it altogether so it looks more like his own flesh.
praise Khorne brothers
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No.361364
>>361349
>>361351
Looks nice. Though, might be a touch too dark.
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No.361365
>>361364
It's damned near impossible to find a light brown spray paint in the right finish and tone that dries in a reasonable amount of time. I found a couple that were close, but they needed 9-12 hours to fully dry, and when I need to do multiple coats, front and back, in a limited space, that's just not feasible… I didn't think it would, but the gondolas have really been testing the limits of what I can do with my current dinky set up.
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No.361366
>>361365
That's tragic. Does look slick, in any case.
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No.361367
>>361366
really doesn't help that winter is such a shit time to paint anything.
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No.361368
>>361367
>winter
Fucker, I'm having to reinstall my window A/C unit, because it's too damn hot here.
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No.361532
Used some of today to do some painting. Went to the craft store and paid a little extra for a different brand of brown paint. I'm kind of iffy about the results, but I think once I paint in the face and clear coat it, the result will be much better.
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No.361535
>>361532
I can see the problem with being too dark. geez doesn't even look like a honest gondola in the middle
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No.361538
>>361535
The clear coat helps make it less… intense… but a lighter brown was definitely needed. I think the batch of dark brown ones are just going to be kept for myself.
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No.361612
>>361538
You should paint over the whole dark gondola and light brown gondola using primer and see how that works instead.
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No.361613
>>361532
Are you planning on selling these things?
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No.361620
>>361612
Couldn't hurt. Otherwise the paint is just going to waste.
>>361613
Yeah, as soon as I nail down a reliable method for painting the faces.
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No.361667
Hey /tg/. I wanted to go with a crystal corruption theme with my new 40k army, but I just can't find crystals that are small enough, have the right shape and are translucent. I have scanned what feels like dozens of tiny bead stores, and did not find anything that fits. Currently considering smashing up some glass into tiny fragments, but I feel like it would be too sharp, and also the wrong shape.
Any advice on finding/making such tiny 1-2-3mm crystals?
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No.361668
>>361667
Depends on crystal you're going for.
Orderly crystal? Just get a ton of soulstones from kromlech or others. Affix at regular intervals and paint it like its something else.
Insanity crystals? There is that layering technique for making translucent water, I'm sure it could work for spikes.
A certain kind of crystal that is technically metal and """canon"""? If it's jutting out it's not correct. It would be affixed to perfect proportions. Imagine the vitruvian man overlayed on every man. Manlets would have a second crystal head above their own. Some would get extra hands/forearm jutting out their palm. Weird shit.
Regardless, I'd recommend just layering translucents over and over, build up what looks like a glow from a distance. An 'aura'. Lines for proper joints.
Crystals need not be spiky.
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No.361704
>>361667
You could sculpt and mold some crystals, then cast them in a clear or tinted epoxy resin and affix them. I guess you could also grow read crystals and glue those to your models.
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No.361761
>>361668
>Just get a ton of soulstones from kromlech or others
Soulstones are round, I want ones that look like on that picture.
>Crystals need not be spiky.
Oh yes they do. I found these, but they are a bit too large at 4-10x4-6x2-4 mm. Maybe I can break them in half and have twice as short ones.
>>361704
Yeah, I might have to scult&mold em. I don't think growing them would be an option, since they'd be way too brittle on such a small size.
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No.361765
>>361667
Safety glass. Like the type used for car windows breaks up into small crystal type structures, i.e. squares.
I use it in clear resin casts because the corners catch the light - giving a holographic effect.
They aren't sharp, but they aren't shard like either - probably too square for what you need.
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No.361768
>>361765
Actually, that might be perfect. Thank you.
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No.362172
So, the temperature went from 20s and lower with icy snow to 60s with humid rain over the course of 2 days. I used that change in weather to fix up the paint job that got fucked up by the cold weather. Now I've got a presentable light brown Gondola to compare to the dark brown ones I'd finished earlier.
The enamel coating on the outside does a good job of making the paint look much cleaner, but it does also protect it from heat and moisture. I've had some more cup noodle in the past week and used a 'finished' gondola as my lid caddy each time and there's no damage or change at all in the texture or color of the little guy.
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No.362187
>>362172
Oh fuck, that lighter one is perfect. Excellent job, anon.
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No.362188
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No.362391
>>362172
Yeah the lighter brown is definitely the way to go. Unless you put a little crown on we wuz Gondola.
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No.362679
Nanachi isn't really the easiest to sculpt and that pose means she will be a bitch to paint, but what wouldn't I do for my fluffy loli waifu.
She has steel armature, foil flesh hold together by masking tape and super sculpey skin.
I made one sculpture from cheaper, stinky air dry material before. No, not poop, this was smellier. Then I made a few wire frames for practice.
Perhaps it's because of my strong wizard grip, but sculpey is soft. Even softer than the kid's stuff. In YouTube I watched how some lady had to hammer it down to make it malleable. I guess they changed the recipe since then, because this stuff turns to the consistency of chewed gum when I warm it up. It also goes lighter in color when it warms up and back down again when it cools.
The softness has some drawbacks. Like when you're sculpting it's hard to not to make a dent when holding it for support. Also it's like a fly paper to all sorts of grime and dust. I just hope the paint will cover it up.
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No.362691
>>362679
Weren't you working on a different Nanachi figure before? How did that go?
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No.362699
>>362691
This one? The arm broke off because it didn't have armature or anything inside. It also cracked like Mitty's face when it dried up. It was made with five dollar sculpting mass.
I still have it, maybe I practice painting on it.
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No.362703
>>362679
I've seen a lot of people who work in sculpey forgo even handing their piece by mounting it on a little spinning tray or piece of wood before they start working, often with an affixed metal rod down the middle of the piece to hold it in place.
Working on a piece that you have to handle can be tricky, especially because the heat from your hands can make it softer as you work on it, leading you into a nonstop loop of chasing your mistakes. If you flatten out a bit of sculpey and leave it on a sheet of printer paper, it will leech out some of the oils and harden it up a bit. Also, the beige kind of sculpey is apparently their 'original' formula, but they make a grey 'super sculpey firm' which is probably less prone to some of these problems.
The way I've been circumventing the problem is by purposefully sculpting my stuff somewhat rougher and just a bit larger than needed, then cooking the piece, and going back in with sandpaper, needle files, and wood carving tools to scrape down and refine the shape to be closer to what I want. And just in case you didn't know, you can actually get away with cooking sculpey multiple times. So, for instance, you could work on the legs first, get those about right, and cook them, then start working with fresh sculpey for the torso, cook both pieces together, and slowly work your way up. Since you intend to paint things once it's all done, you will have some options when it comes to hiding your crimes.
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No.362706
>>362703
Huh, no wonder the beige was cheaper than grey.
I think I try to affix her to somekind of stand. Baking multiple times also seems like a good idea, because that head weights a lot with all that headgear.
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No.362708
>>362699
Definitely practice painting on that first. It's always a good thing to find other uses for a project that didn't turn out well.
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No.362711
>>362706
If you wrap a small bit of cardboard (large enough to fit the whole piece on) in tinfoil, smooth it out as much as possible, and just plop the whole thing on there, it should at least partially attach itself to the smooth surface so you can just move that base around while poking at the figure with your tools and fingers. Plus the tinfoil-wrapped cardboard will be safe to cook. I've also seen that other people who work primarily in polymer clays, like sculpey, like using small sheets of glass for their work surface, though they cook their stuff on cookie sheets lined with parchment paper.
Should also mention that if you need an easy way to cook these small projects, a toaster oven or a small convection oven can do the trick. It's easier than firing up and heating a giant oven for a single small piece. It's a little more energy efficient and easier to keep an eye on.
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No.362739
>>362711
I only have a regular oven.
I tried the cardboard and foil thing, but the foil was too slippery. Then I remembered the plate I made for the failed nanachi to stand on and it was a perfect fit. I'm not sure if it can handle the oven though, so I'll put it on the foil plate when it's time to bake
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No.362882
Same Nanachi fag here.
I bought some paint… But these are enamel paints, picture related.
Internet I should rather use acrylic paints and that enamel paints will never dry. Did I just threw my money in the toilet?
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No.362891
>>362882
Acrylics are definitely easier to work with, but I don't see why you couldn't make it work. Then again, I don't know how well sculpey takes enamel paints. If you've already opened one of your containers, then you might as well test it out. If you bought them locally, it wouldn't be a bad idea to exchange them for acrylics.
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No.362892
>>362882
Well, enamel paints will usually give you a glossy finish, so that's something you need to be aware of when it comes time to paint. Not that they can't be used, as far as I know. Careful not to cook anything that's been painted with enamels, though, as that will probably cause the paint to crack and chip away.
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No.362905
Gondolas are finally up on etsy. I've got a pile of the damned things and I think they're about as good as I can get them.
Posting the mp4 I made for jewtube. 8chan won't let me directly post shortened URLs for some reason
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No.362915
>>362891
They only had these paints. They were made for plastic models, so I thought why not.
I'm not going to shame walk back (or bother to order them online) so I'll stick with these.
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No.362916
>>362905
Is that a fucking fidget spinner?
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No.362917
>>362916
I needed something that could spin. Don't judge me. Borrowed it from my younger brother.
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No.362999
>>362905
You've got my $10 anon, top-tier stuff.
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No.363040
>>362999
Well, all the orders are packed and sent out, so all I can do now is offer my deepest gratitude to you guys, because this small amount of monetary compensation and encouragement has driven me to really get into a lot of skills and techniques that I would not have been motivated enough to pursue on my own.
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No.363067
Okay.
Baked the body, working on head now. Probably going to bake it too before attaching the helmet.
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No.363097
>>363067
Body looks a little thin, but otherwise, it's coming together nicely. One thing that's really going to drive you crazy is the way they beige sculpey tricks the eye and hides texture.
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No.363174
>>363040
Will you do gondolas in other poses?
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No.363183
>>363040
>>363174
What about a squatting gondola like in this one
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No.363184
>>363183
Complete with hat and vodka?
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No.363186
>>363174
>>363183
I've got some other ideas and I might try something a little weird later on, but I'm lining up some stuff for my next project, which isn't going to be of much interest to /tg/ unless you like Monster Hunter. The Gondolas moved really fast, so I'm definitely going to have to take some time to revisit and improve on things, like I did with the Goblin Slayer.
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No.370285
Hope you've been staying crafty, /tg/! Sadly, I haven't had much in the way of stuff to show you guys as I've started a new job and the last project I was working on turned into a massive time-eater, but not one that resulted in anything I thought /tg/ would care about.
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No.377355
So, what have you made lately, /tg/?
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No.377356
>>377355
I hope you have lead underwear on
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No.377358
>>377356
It's a scoutfly lantern from Monster Hunter World, lit with some EL-wire kit I had laying around. Looks great in low-light. The whole thing is made from parts molded and then cast in resin. Taught myself some neat tricks while working on it, but I've been too busy with work and other stuff to do more sculpting and casting.
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No.377570
What is the story behind 8ch tg necromancer mascot?
I haven't been around here for a looong time.
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No.377572
>>377358
>monster hunter turd
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No.389212
>>308133
Can't believe I hadn't thought of this before
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No.389214
>>389212
I was actually just thinking about this project today. I was thinking of making weapon cards for a game I'm going to run. Was planning on making a card template and then printing the weapon stuff on normal paper and sliding it into a sleeve with a card so it's easier to handle at the table and less likely to get ruined and damaged.
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No.389961
>>359270
Short sleeved gambeson is fine too
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No.395787
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. I casted firebolt & icespike.
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No.408575
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No.408590
>>408575
Yeah, sure, why not? Show us what you've made.
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No.408605
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. I've got a fuckton of cardboard I'm going to use to make dungeon tiles for my game, following this tutorial. Problem being, I use gridded play (though I would like to try a gridless game at some point), so I have to think of a way to add it myself.
current ideas is to paint the walls and the base separately, and paint the grid onto the base before attaching the walls and adding the embellishments. Painting it with something metallic or reflective so its visible but not too disruptive to the piece.
Current thoughts are spraypainting gridlines by using 1 inch painters tape to make the grid, or using a big reflective metallic permanent marker. Any ideas?
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No.408607
>>408605
Youtube recently dropped me down a rabbit hole of terrain diorama videos. So far, I can't say I've learned anything I intend to take to my table, mostly because I don't want to make massive cliffs and mountains out of plaster and foam and 50 pounds of epoxy resin, but some of the painting techniques are definitely useful.
As for something inobtrusive to put on your dungeon tiles, give silver sharpie a try. It's metallic enough to catch the light, but still fairly dull in most lighting.
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No.408608
>>408605
Draw a grid after priming and use that as a guide for painting stone tiles. Vary it up by adding cracks, moss/mold, small water leaks, etc. Alternatively, just go gridless and use a small tape measure if distance matters.
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No.408609
>>408607
i was considering gold or silver sharpie depending on the terrain. gold for outdoors, silver for indoors generally.
>>408608
I'm not a very skilled painter, I think I can manage the simple techniques in DM scotty and some other videos on youtube. Unless painting stone tiles is easier than I'm imagining it is.
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No.408621
>>362905
any chance of another Gondola production run?
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No.408657
Is there any setup that's superior to a vinyl grid with props and terrain?
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No.408784
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Does anyone make characters/environments with a 3D printer? Looks like a cheap way to make your own tiles/walls. With an FDM printer using PLA plastic, seems like an easy/fun way to make them. All you need is to print them, and then paint if you want to. Problem is getting the design, probably have to buy designs people made on the internet if you don't have the skill to make good, quick designs.
Prusa made a trailer showcasing some of the possibilities. I've looked into 3D printing this weekend and seems the best choice is either the Prusa i3 mk3 at $750, or the Ender at a cheap Chinese manufactured price of $250.
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No.410394
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Melee weapon forging belongs here.
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No.410398
>>408621
Not right now, but I want to get back to it at some point. I don't have enough time or much of a work area at the moment and I have no idea when I'll be getting either of those things back.
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No.410432
>>408784
3D Printing is still kinda floating at that level where you'd need to weigh the costs. You can find some printers in the under-$500 range, but the time and effort that goes into tweaking, fine tuning, and configuring the machine, even if it's pre-assembled. Then there's the cost of materials, the cost of STL files, potential costs for slicer programs if you want to buy one of the better ones instead of using a free one, cost sunk on failed or badly configured prints, and the big one: storage and workspace.
3d printing is kind of a crafty hobby unto itself, which means you'll be needing more than just the machine itself. Kind of like getting into wargaming, you need to buy more than just the minis and the rulebook. You also need tools and adhesives to assemble and customize your dudes, you need paints, you need a place where you can spray down and prime, and possibly air brush some stuff, you need somewhere to leave them while they dry, so nothing knocks them over. With 3D printing, you're looking at all of that, plus you sometimes need an undisturbed area that can be left alone for dozens of hours, sometimes, and preferably kept in a climate controlled area, because room temperature will affect your prints.
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No.411083
>buy some sample wargaming terrain online
>like the look of it, figure it might work for my RPG game whenever the players are fighting outside
>order some more to give it a real test
>order is delayed for a week
>then two weeks
>then three
>what the fucking fuck is going on?
>finally get an email from them
>they threw in some extra terrain they fucked up on the last order because they're closing for good
>go look at the website
>it's for sale at the low price of $10,000 and was open for 21 years
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No.414805
>>410432
Provided one has all that, does anyone on here know some good resources/have experience with printing? So far I'm using Cura and an Ender printer (modified somewhat) but I have access to a Prusa as well. The main problem that I've run into so far is that while the parts of the model that don't have supports turn out just fine, really smooth, etc, there's still to much stringing/removing the supports is a pain in the ass that fucks up some of the smaller bits. I'll try and post some pics when I can later
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No.415359
>>414805
I have experience with 3D printing, but not too much with FDM printing. Stringing as I've researched is a common issue with FDM printing, especially on cheaper printers. There's no way to fix that unless you change temps of the nozzle, I think its running slightly hot so it strings out as the nozzle moves x-y. I was wanting to get the Prusa mk 3 i3, stringing isn't as bad on that.
If you want finer feature details (x-y plane), you can get a smaller nozzle diameter, but this will greatly increase build time and you have to be sure to set the settings correctly. Also setting layer height to too small of a value will result in diminishing effectiveness, and exponentially longer build times.
If you design your model properly supports should not be near small features, or try to make those overhanging features (like a nose) not so long. Getting to know the limitations your printer can do will better help you make less mistakes. https://www. thingiverse.com/thing:2656594/makes This is an overhang test, in the middle there's a bridge with far supports and thin features. You can see how well your printer does in certain scales with it. Use that as a base line for if you can delete having a support in a spot.
Maybe there's a better way to remove supports, maybe melt it with a tip, or snip leaving a nub on and then file it down.
Again, if you are building models (like characters), then move from FDM to SLA printing (though much more expensive). The material is a liquid resin and a laser creates the layers. With this you can have finer details. Generally resins are stiffer so you won't need as many supports as FDM.
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No.417805
>>359184
Make sure your gambesons are thick enough.
Bonus: https://imgur.com/gallery/wkV4fTG
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No.417824
>>417805
>wearing a corset on the outside
>Wearing a TIGHT corset one the OUTSIDE over mail
Fool deserved worse than some indentations.
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No.417837
>>417824
What's weird to me is that she is wearing belts, which as opposed to just hanging on her hips, could have been at her waist, emphasizing her shape replacing the corset.
But yeah, it's like she got the researched that one might wear armor over the chainmail, but didn't want to make it.
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No.418612
>>417805
Bruh you're supposed to wear padding under the chainmail. It's not supposed to be on bare skin. The chainmail deflects an edged weapon and the padding helps absorb the impact (chainmail alone does almost nothing against that).
>>408605
Look at that guy's videos for his tilescapes design. If you just make a stamp out of foam it's easy as shit to put a grid on stuff.
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No.418661
>>418612
>the impact (chainmail alone does almost nothing against that).
the chainmail keeps the edged weapon from cutting through the padding.
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No.418670
>>418661
My chainmail protects my padding from edged weapons, but my padding protects my chainmail from edged weapons. I don't understand what's going on over there. Who's the real hero?
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No.418678
>>418670
Chainmail protects padding and you from the edge.
Padding protects you from the impact of a fairly heavy metal object hitting your body.
Neither is particularly effective without the other, but because people want armor that's form fitting or because you don't see the padding on chainmail, most people think you'd just wear chainmail on bare skin or over some underclothes.
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