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 No.85873 [Open Thread]

>>15200

>是不是用网桥和直连tor接近100%被直接发现，用前置代理保护则不一定被发现？

网桥和直连tor接近100%被直接发现, 这个我同意, 但哪来的自信前置代理保护就不是接近100%被直接发现? Tor团队那么多年开发那么多网桥你以为Tor团队是弱智吗?

>有没有可能中国大陆直连tor和只挂网桥上tor用户体验极差而前置代理就是合理选择？

有可能吗? 合理吗? 如果不是想搞事怕被抓谁有优质梯子了还用Tor? 在中国搞事的标准很低, 你我谈论这些也算是搞事, 当然破坏力太低他们实际上懒得管就是了(本质还是维稳的成本收益问题, 抓我们净收益是负数), 但较真的话还是搞事的风险高于普通翻墙.

而且连你自己引用的那部分都在说有时把Tor变成前置+Tor更可疑:

>in some countries replacing an encrypted Tor connection with an encrypted VPN or SSH connection, will be suspicious as well.

>在某些国家/地区，用加密 VPN 或 SSH 连接替换加密 Tor 连接也会引起怀疑。

而且你完全忽略了"VPN/SSH Fingerprinting below"("下面的 VPN/SSH 指纹识别"):

>Using a VPN or SSH does not provide strong guarantees of hiding your the fact you are using Tor from your ISP.

>使用VPN或SSH并不能强有力地保证隐藏你使用Tor的事实，尤其是对你的互联网服务提供商（ISP）来说。

https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN#vpnssh-fingerprinting

而且注意这篇文章是在技术尚且不发达的十多年以前且基于少量有限资源的公开研究都能意识到加密代理无法隐藏Tor, 现在面对审查技术更加发达的中国国家级ISP, 隐藏概率就更低了, 十多年前的存档:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130921045625/https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorPlusVPN#VPNSSHFingerprinting

<另外不要暴露自己什么翻墙工具体验如何是否能用, 这么做帮不了别人, 甚至会误导别人让别人错过适合自己的翻墙工具, 只会暴露自己的状态增加被锁定概率.

<直接给出受益人群最大的工具就可以, 比如 https://www.torproject.org/zh-CN/download/

<编程随想也在推荐用Tor翻墙:

<https://program-think.blogspot.com/2018/04/gfw-tor-browser-7.5-meek.html#head-2

<Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.85874

>>15200

>是不是用网桥和直连tor接近100%被直接发现，用前置代理保护则不一定被发现？

网桥和直连tor接近100%被直接发现, 这个我同意, 但哪来的自信前置代理保护就不是接近100%被直接发现? Tor团队那么多年开发那么多网桥你以为Tor团队是弱智吗?

>有没有可能中国大陆直连tor和只挂网桥上tor用户体验极差而前置代理就是合理选择？

有可能吗? 合理吗? 如果不是想搞事怕被抓谁有优质梯子了还用Tor? 在中国搞事的标准很低, 你我谈论这些也算是搞事, 当然破坏力太低他们实际上懒得管就是了(本质还是维稳的成本收益问题, 抓我们净收益是负数), 但较真的话还是搞事的风险高于普通翻墙.

而且连你自己引用的那部分都在说有时把Tor变成前置+Tor更可疑:

>in some countries replacing an encrypted Tor connection with an encrypted VPN or SSH connection, will be suspicious as well.

>在某些国家/地区，用加密 VPN 或 SSH 连接替换加密 Tor 连接也会引起怀疑。

而且你完全忽略了"VPN/SSH Fingerprinting below"("下面的 VPN/SSH 指纹识别"):

>Using a VPN or SSH does not provide strong guarantees of hiding your the fact you are using Tor from your ISP.

>使用VPN或SSH并不能强有力地保证隐藏你使用Tor的事实，尤其是对你的互联网服务提供商（ISP）来说。

https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN#vpnssh-fingerprinting

而且注意这篇文章是在技术尚且不发达的十多年以前且基于少量有限资源的公开研究都能意识到加密代理无法隐藏Tor, 现在面对审查技术更加发达的中国国家级ISP, 隐藏概率就更低了, 十多年前的存档:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130921045625/https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorPlusVPN#VPNSSHFingerprinting

<另外不要暴露自己什么翻墙工具体验如何是否能用, 这么做帮不了别人, 甚至会误导别人让别人错过适合自己的翻墙工具, 只会暴露自己的状态增加被锁定概率.

<直接给出受益人群最大的工具就可以, 比如 https://www.torproject.org/zh-CN/download/

<编程随想也在推荐用Tor翻墙:

<https://program-think.blogspot.com/2018/04/gfw-tor-browser-7.5-meek.html#head-2

<Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.85871 [Open Thread]

https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN#you-vpnssh-tor

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 No.85872

https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN#vpnssh-fingerprinting

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 No.85867 [Open Thread]

钓鱼网警滚!

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 No.85862 [Open Thread]

1

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 No.85863

2

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 No.85864

3

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 No.85865

>>85863 >>85864

test

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 No.85866

>>8586>>85865

3 >>85864

>>85865

>>85862

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 No.85861 [Open Thread]

依据:>Ultimately the best protection is a social approach: the more Tor users there are near you and the more diverse their interests, the less dangerous it will be that you are one of them. Convince other people to use Tor, too!

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File: 6a3ee4a6935f2f9⋯.png (306.58 KB,1000x750,4:3,1000x800_jpg.png)

 No.85853 [Open Thread]

Lego instructions here:

https://file.io/NjkwGmbdtF7y

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File: fc31a6ec50e7650⋯.jpg (88.35 KB,500x700,5:7,d901dee2d6881de3fa9c975e33….jpg)

 No.85745 [Open Thread]

T

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 No.85746

File: 8ce95010dd71f73⋯.jpg (907.01 KB,850x1200,17:24,265efe4d4e2f1d117e1fe57938….jpg)

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 No.85747

File: 84b2e0a3d4659fc⋯.png (1.1 MB,950x1170,95:117,ecfd6290787ca317ad33ea26fd….png)

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 No.85769

Sexy non A.I. BABES!!

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 No.85838

>>85745

Testing uWu

https://i.redd.it/uqivmu4mq4851.jpg

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 No.85851

>>85745

https://i.redd.it/owgx9mn0ioj31.png

rock test

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 No.85844 [Open Thread]

Dice rollRolled 4, 5, 3, 12, 16, 8, 14, 1, 13, 11, 4, 10, 15, 13, 13, 7, 7, 9, 10, 10, 16, 9, 12, 7, 10, 2, 8, 13, 14, 13, 14, 15, 1 + 9 = 328 (33d16)

1

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 No.85846

Dice rollRolled 1 + 2 (1d1)

b

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 No.85847

Dice rollRolled 3, 2 + 4 = 9 (2d3)

c

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 No.85848

Dice rollRolled 1, 2 + 4 = 7 (2d3)

d

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 No.85849

Dice rollRolled 1, 1, 2 + 4 = 8 (3d2)

e

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 No.85850

Dice rollRolled 1, 1, 1 + 4 = 7 (3d1)

f

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 No.85842 [Open Thread]

>來自世界級通緝犯認證

有什么来源或依据?

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 No.85843

> test

>test

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 No.85720 [Open Thread]

What are some good onion sites to buy drugs?

Asking here because I don't know where else to ask

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 No.85743

ssss

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 No.85750

hello there

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 No.85839

>>85750

>>85750

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 No.85834 [Open Thread]

https://8kun.top/test

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 No.85835

https://8kun.top/test

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 No.85836

http://w7m432cocr665kf5tlpcxojwldajr3njd2etcxwhpbrt44eemuxhp7ad.onion/test/res/85834.html#85835

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 No.85837

https://8kun.top/test/res/85834.html#85835

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 No.85833 [Open Thread]

http://sys.w7m432cocr665kf5tlpcxojwldajr3njd2etcxwhpbrt44eemuxhp7ad.onion/test/index.html

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 No.85824 [Open Thread]

https://8kun.top/test/index.html

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 No.85825

https://8kun.top/test/res/85824.html

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 No.85826

https://8kun.top/test/res/85824.html

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 No.85832

https://8kun.top/test/res/85824.html#85824

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 No.85831 [Open Thread]

http://w7m432cocr665kf5tlpcxojwldajr3njd2etcxwhpbrt44eemuxhp7ad.onion/test/res/85824.html

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 No.85827 [Open Thread]

test

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 No.85828

https://8kun.top/test/res/85824.html

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 No.85829

https://8kun.top/test/res/85824.html

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 No.85830

http://w7m432cocr665kf5tlpcxojwldajr3njd2etcxwhpbrt44eemuxhp7ad.onion/test/res/85824.html

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