3e8886 No.24611 [Last50 Posts]
Fellas… I'm not really cognisant of American laws, does the Disney buys Fox thing mean that the Mouse now owns the Orville?
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08a2f0 No.24612
>>24611
This was touched upon in a thread over on /sw/. The sale's not final yet, Disney just went over Comcast's bid. Comcast has a lot more money to throw around so chances are they'll go over Disney and end up the owners.
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3e8886 No.24613
>>24612
That's a relief. I'm not a fan of the lumps of shit that anything Disney touches becomes.
For real though, Comcast has more money than Disney? There's an absolutely insane amount of money being thrown around here.
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d2cbd1 No.24626
>>24611
There's also an Orville thread here, not much to discuss in the off season. They did just finish filming episode 6 and are taking a short break.
Anyway, >>24612 this guy is right, according to Wiki. I thought Disney pulling in 55 billion was big, Comcast pulled in 84 billion. It should also be noted Comcast also own NBC.
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3c5090 No.24629
>>24626
And remember the mouse recently made another large purchase (Lucasfilm), which has been hilariously mismanaged. Disney as a whole has only just barely made back what they spent, and Lucasfilm specifically only a quarter of that.
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3f59e3 No.24631
Disney was great when it was ran by Walt Disney, the evil gnazee. Even until the 90s it produced great films.
Zionists took it over and are purposefully destroying the legacy of Disney.
I seriously hope Orville isn't going to be destroyed as well.
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8deeb3 No.24632
>>24612
>The sale's not final yet, Disney just went over Comcast's bid.
Thank heaven. But if Disney ends up buying FOX I might be tempted to aloha admiral ackbar straight into Disney HQ.
>>24613
They do. Comcast overall has a higher networth than Disney. They could still break the deal since at 71billion Disney is already about to reach their limit while Comcast could still go higher.
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161065 No.24636
>>24631
Small thing but Walt wasn't a Nazi. He was accused of that in the writings of the Daily Worker, a communist rag that was around New York in the 1930s. He was in competition a cartoonist union that was linked back to Conference of Studio Unions, a communist front receiving money from the USSR. They portrayed him as an anti-semite and the 'joke' has been repeating since.
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50b44f No.24639
>>24613
>Comcast has more money than Disney?
Anyone getting a comcast bill monthly doesn't doubt that… recently cut TV for PS Vue and Netflix, had to keep Comcast for Internet as no other options in my area, but saving tons by switching and getting better PQ (Comcast downscales about 90% of their HDTV feeds from 1080i to 720p now)
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2a69dc No.24644
>>24636
Yeah I'm sure he was the single tolerant and progressive American in the 1920s.
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e00a44 No.24650
>>24644
Racial sterotypes aren't racist, it's just light-hearted banter. Is it racist to joke about the British drinking lots of tea?
The nigs in those old Disney cartoons are always goofy and jolly, there's no malice there at all.
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05f427 No.24653
>>24650
The bar for what's considered malicious has dropped quite a bit.
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2a69dc No.24657
>>24653
Admitting that races exist is racist now.
>>24650
Why the fuck are you so desperate about this? Do you seriously think being racist is bad now that 90% of the population is racist by default? Fag.
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50b44f No.24659
>>24650
>The nigs in those old Disney cartoons are always goofy and jolly
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1ffde2 No.24662
>>24631
Disney was a Mason and therefore never a "Natsee".
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e455f0 No.24945
Why do you fucks like this shit again?
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f6653f No.26091
>>24611
The morality of this show pisses me off. The episode where they board the krill ship is stupid. Why save the children? They are going to grow up and become Krill soldiers. It would have been better to kill everyone on the ship.
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7fcf4b No.26113
>>26091
>wanting the show to be dark and heavy edgefest instead of comfy, cozy, feel-good adventure
Get fucked. You have a decade worth of Trek across several series that caters to that trendy bullshit. That's not what The Orville is supposed to be. "Complex grey moral questions" that are designed to leave the viewer "stunned" are 9 times out of 10 a Jew psy-op. TNG had a few "very special episodes". TOS had one. They should be rare in Trek and part of what made Trek go to shit in the mid to late 90's was trying to make every 'morality play' episode dark and heavy. If that pisses you off, you clearly don't get it. Just let the Orville be what it is and be glad someone is trying to keep the spirit alive in these dark times.
>>24945
autist detected. He's doing what he has to do to survive when surrounded by the enemy. Try not to have a brain aneurysm while you're purity spiraling.
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f6653f No.26115
>>26113
>you don't get it
I do. The best ending would have been for Mercer to somehow get control of the ship or disable it and capture everyone alive for the Union. This would have been more in line with their ethics and not been dark. Instead, the episode ends with Mercer killing everyone because the Krill were going to kill a bunch of farmers. The episode already took a dark turn. The mission was to learn about the Krill and somehow create understanding to bring about peace. Murdering everyone on board is counter productive. Everyones life on board was valuable, not just the children. But Americans and
>muh childrenz
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700e30 No.26117
>>26113
>He's doing what he has to do to survive when surrounded by the enemy.
Seth MacFarlane has always been a massive liberal.
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aa28b1 No.26118
>>26115
well, yeah… that's a better ending, sure… maybe even the best possible ending, which is what Star Trek and "Trek-like" shows should strive for.. and not muh edgy and grim "hard choices" bullshit which 9 times out of 10 just feels like a jew taking a dump in my soul or laying somebody's dead baby at my doorstep. There's a time and place for that, i suppose, but it's almost never appropriate for Trek.
>>26117
>Seth MacFarlane has always been a massive liberal.
as opposed to what? arch conservatard or lolberg with no show or career? principled natsoc shitposting on south pacific giant stone head carving forum as a career like you and me? c'mon dude…
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700e30 No.26119
>>26118
>as opposed to what? arch conservatard or lolberg with no show or career?
Yes and? You can look at anything he's done in his life and see he's a liberal. Are you incapable of enjoying anything he's produced unless you think he secretly holds your political convictions?
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e17412 No.26120
>>26113
>autist detected. He's doing what he has to do to survive when surrounded by the enemy. Try not to have a brain aneurysm while you're purity spiraling.
you’re fucking retarded
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aa28b1 No.26121
>>26119
who are you responding to? I don't give a shit about what his stated or suggested "political convictions" are. I like what's he's doing with The Orville. Are you arguing with yourself?
>>26120
autistic and edgy
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e50091 No.26122
>>24945
Because it’s a good show and god-tier of you compare it to STD
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e50091 No.26123
>>26121
>calling someone retarded is edgy now
I think >>>/reddit/ might be more your speed
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aa28b1 No.26126
>>26123
>come join me on reddit.
here's a clue: you're not a edgefag because you called someone a retard. It's the manner in which you did it. Specifically, with the typical affected, faux-blase 'fucking' in lieu of elaboration. You see, you're clearly retarded. But, it's not edgy to call you that because i'll explain that you're a bumbling tard due to you clearly lacking the ability to comprehend posts, or post something yourself without samefagging the thread up with back-to-back shitpostery.
So, autistic and edgy and retarded
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aadc45 No.26127
>>24945
>>26117
McFarlane has always lowkey exposed pedophilia and supported right wing values. He's just wise enough to know doing that in hollywood OPENLY is a fucking no no.
But I bet you all go to work wearing a maga hat and don't nod to your boss when he says something leftard.
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d2750e No.26164
>>26127
>he's /our/ (((guy)))
he's a twat who thinks he's funny.
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700e30 No.26167
>>26126
What are you so upset about, schizo?
>>26127
>exposing pedophilia and not wanting society to completely degenerate makes you right wing
Just because the left has regressed to the point of insanity doesn't mean he's not politically to the left.
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0a34a3 No.26170
MacFarlane is a full bore socialist. The modern left is so extremely ridiculous they make him seem sane by comparison, but don't let that fool you. He is very much a leftist.
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8f9591 No.26180
>>26113
M8 you need to be a little more realistic here. MacFarlane is a pretty cool guy as far as lefties go, but it's not because he's a secret right-winger if only, the fedora-tipping episode of Orville should have tipped you off about that. He just looks right-wing compared to the screeching harpies that make up the left nowadays, and, unlike your average college socialist, he has opinions and a personality of his own beyond politics. Because of this, you can sustain a conversation with him without politics coming into it, and he himself feels less obligated to talk about it. As a result, he seems more right than he really is. I bet if you locked him and a well-spoken anon in a room long enough, said anon may push MacFarlane further right, but that's not the same as him being right-wing now.
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473307 No.26181
>>26180
maybe you're right, but couldnt we say that about practically everyone that ever worked on Trek? Let's say there were some closeted "right-wingers" in Trek/The Orville, but they have to feign more liberal sentiments. Before long, i'd suspect they start to believe a lot of it (at least one certain single issues). Stare long enough into the abyss and all that. I just have a hard time faulting the guy - or anybody that worked on Trek - for harboring some "liberal" or "lefty" views and producing a show that is middle-of-the-road "classicly liberal". If i'm being honest, id have to admit i'd probably do the same thing if i were in his shoes.
I try to judge the spirit of the work, and I just dont find a subversive spirit in The Orville as a whole (there are annoying points, but overall it's not cancer). I don't think the guy is right-wing, to be clear. I just don't care because of the quality of his work and if i have to take a position, i'd likely to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume at least some of his opinions are fake.
Like you suggest, though, it's all relative. If we weren't living in such openly hostile and aidsy times, he'd be viewed as a degenerate trying to pollute Star Trek. As it stands, he at least appears to be using "degeneracy" as camouflage to preserve it. I was probably too harsh on the dissenters, though and that was my mistake if i was.
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8f9591 No.26182
>>26181
>maybe you're right, but couldnt we say that about practically everyone that ever worked on Trek?
Yeah, we can. Roddenberry, while socially on the conservative side believed in a peaceful socialist utopia which technically makes him not too far from the fash but that's another can of worms entirely, and most other trek writers are on the left. I'm not saying that's a problem in and of itself though.
>I try to judge the spirit of the work, and I just dont find a subversive spirit in The Orville as a whole (there are annoying points, but overall it's not cancer).
You're exactly right, and that's why I don't bear any ill will to him or any other lefty that manages to reign it in. Like I said before, the thing about MacFarlane is that, because he has a personality and interests of his own, there's no need for him to virtue-signal so aggressively. Generally speaking, your average leftard doesn't actually have any endearing qualities to speak of, and the closest they get to personality is regurgitating quotes from The Office; in order to compensate for how two-dimensional they are, they just signal politics as much as they can and hope to attract a fellow member of the hivemind.
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d2750e No.26189
>>26181
I think the issues lays in TOS back then it wasn't the norm to be liberal and because it was a show which explored different ideals it inadvertently became lefty on it's own but I don't think that's what Gene Roddenberry intended, just the retarded fucks that worked with him convinced him otherwise and once they took over the show made it into a drama with lefty overtones.
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aadc45 No.26191
>>26181
>beautiful blonde woman cant resist pathetic jew
This is 99% of hollywood movies. The other 1% the love interest is a nigger.
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aadc45 No.26192
>>26167
>>26164
Actually I have it on good authority that believing in reality is far right, believing in intangible unquantifiable frames of reference is centrist, and believing in intangible unquantifiable things that lead to marxism is left wing.
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d2750e No.26193
>>26192
that isn't much of an argument, furthermore I think people nowadays "believe" in selective ideas from different political landscapes.
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98203c No.26194
>>26180
You're a fucking idiot. No, if you talked to Seth you wouldn't be besties in a weekend. He's a leftwing asshole like every other hollywood person and you're a stupid cuck for watching his shitty family guy in space and thinking you could wash each other's hair.
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41f326 No.26195
>>26194
>you're a stupid cuck for watching his shitty family guy in space and thinking you could wash each other's hair.
wait- you're saying i'll never wash based & redpilled /ourguy/ Seth's hair…?
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700e30 No.26196
>>26194
>this mad
No need to be so upset ciscovery is failing.
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98203c No.26198
>>26195
>being this ironic
Fuck off back to /tv/ nigger
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4d56a9 No.26199
>>26194
>He's a leftwing asshole like every other hollywood person
He is an old school leftist. He has his beliefs but he doesn't blacklist people who aren't on the left. He works with a lot of different people, see James Woods who is often a guest on Family Guy and based Norm.
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41f326 No.26200
>>26198
mfw trying to be strong but the bullying hurts
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0a34a3 No.26216
>>26195
Gee, I wonder where the inspiration for that scene came from.
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41f326 No.26223
>>26216
>swallow these pills, /strek/
>they're black and blue like my asshole
we've been shilled hard lately… which is odd considering how low the post volume has been (no, the board isn't "dying". it's just the time of year / lack of shit to complain about).
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0a34a3 No.26227
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>>26223
I don't get what you're saying. Are you calling me a shill? What exactly am I shilling? That fact that MacFarlane is very leftist? Is it because I pointed out how much that once scene is like K'ehleyr smashing her table? I freely admit I have yet to watch a single episode of the Orville, and I admit that, just how Seth MacFarlane admits he is a leftist.
Also here's a vid of Penn Jillette sperging out over Seth MacFarlane's leftism.
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a654e7 No.26237
>>26227
>I precisely pointed-out this very specific thing when i asked this vague and open-ended rhetorical question
>oh, by the way, i haven't watched the show that this thread is about so i have no idea what i'm saying, but here's a trashman vid
dude…
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20db0e No.26243
>>26237
I'm a grand cyclops in the Klu Klux Klan but it's really difficult not to like Geordi
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89ed48 No.26245
>>26243
his character can be assumed up as "techno babble" you could have had data take his screen time and the show wouldn't have suffered for it.
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037e9c No.26247
>>26216
I wish I knew what you were talking about
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0a34a3 No.26250
>>26247
That clip is clearly inspired by Whorf's partner K'ehleyr smashing a table in TNG.
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0a34a3 No.26251
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51c7f9 No.26421
>>26245
He was a friendly manlet supernerd that was great at his job but couldn't into women no matter how much he tried until he accidentally made a holowaifu. No way could you write hime out. Wesley would take some of his time.
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89ed48 No.26424
>>26421
I don't think being friendly is much of a character trait since that's what people expect most of the time and also being shit with woman is certainly not make a character do.
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b23d44 No.26426
>>26421
I wish the writers had let Geordi be snarky more often. When they did, Burton could really deliver those lines. Geordi could have been a much more interesting character.
(On adrift Pakleds) "Let me guess, their rubber band broke."
(On a planet of weapons merchants with no life signs)
Troi: "What happened to all the people?"
Word: "War?"
Data: "Disease?"
La Forge: "A dissatisfied customer."
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89ed48 No.26469
>>26426
you know that'd been perfect for him.
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310a11 No.26471
>>26245
No, Geordi is fine. You have to remember that some of the writers (and a chunk of the audience in 1990) served on naval vessels. Not everyone on a real naval vessel is some complicated asshole with a personality. Some guys are just good positive engineers who are optimistic and cheery. Geordi is very much a military engineer.
Further, the character is very similar to Levar Burton's Reading Rainbow persona. He enjoys explaining shit to autistic aliens or robots or borg.
Contrast him with a 'three-dimensional' engineer character like Chief Tyrol from nuBSG, who is just an unlikeable asshole who is erratic and unrealistic and suddenly a Cylon. Geordi is the better character and not just because he's more positive, but because his reactions are more real.
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89ed48 No.26472
>>26471
see I wouldn't have much of an issue with this if he had something to do other then doing his job which we rarely get thus leaving me able to sum up his character like I did.
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cacabc No.30387
>>24945
Avis is the God of the bad guys. He's clearly mocking them by association.
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11efa5 No.30492
>>26117
You seem to be confused. It's not about muh right vs left false dichotomy. McFarlane is intelligent and mostly sensible. The true enemies aren't the ones voting "the other party".
Maybe you're too young to remember, but they've used "the left" and "the right" historically for their purposes instinctively.
The only ones who pick sides are the fools in the herd.
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9334c0 No.30497
>>26471
> just an unlikeable asshole who is erratic and unrealistic
To be fair it's sort of a point of the show that everyone is fucking stressed out to the point of near-breaking (or breaking) by the whole genocide and constant pursuit and exhaustion and rationing and endless paranoia thing, and that human civilisation is sustained by only the thinnest thread. What military order and decorum they do manage to keep is highlighted in contrast to this and is one of the reasons the Galactica becomes the nexus of sanity while random other ships are turning to cannibalism or whatever. They could all be much bigger assholes (like some they encounter) under the circumstances and it wouldn't be especially weird.
Completely agree with everything else you said (including the Cylon asspull). A+ post
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dfa922 No.30582
>>30492
>Your true allies are the ones who assist the enemy!
Retard alert: McFarlane is an enemy propagandist and a faggot, how he "really" feels might be interesting to Jesus if he repents on his deathbed, but it shouldn't be to anyone on this earth who wants to win.
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1c565f No.30594
What is going on in this thread?
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ffe1d0 No.32721
>>30387
>>24945
Avis is anoter car rental company; in other words, a competitor to Hertz who will happily rent the NRA cars. Glad I found out that Hertz is a bunch of commies tho, didn't know this previously.
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705748 No.33008
>>30594
>Seth McFarlane, a leftoid, makes good tv
>mostly keeps politics out of it because he understands that currentyear politics are bad tv
>autists cannot separate art from artist
>attempt to square everything away in the autism box by either claiming Seth is secretly /ourguy/ or that the Orville was never good
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42942b No.33017
>>33008
Pretty much this. CBS butthurt that Seth understood Trek and won't subvert it.
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f95740 No.33033
>>33008
seth is more of a left leaning libertarian though, not an authoritarian like all these other jerks are.
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aff932 No.33035
>>33008
>autists cannot separate art from artist
its this
its always this
i dont care if the dude slaughtered his own mother in cold blood. if he makes quality entertainment, hes an asset in this world of unrepentant shit.
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c14b23 No.33047
>>32721
I guess it's good that you didn't know since it means you don't watch TV. Shit was all over talmudvision when it happened.
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f43b9f No.33071
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Here's a tour of the Orville Interactive Fan Experience.
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3d32cc No.33080
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3d32cc No.33081
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3d32cc No.33082
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3d32cc No.33083
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3d32cc No.33085
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3d32cc No.33087
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457743 No.33183
I'm thinking of watching this show. Never watched any trek before and none of it really seems interesting to me but I heard this was some kind of light-hearted comfy satire of sorts? Maybe some kind of trek Red Dwarf? Is it true?
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a42128 No.33184
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I can't help but think of this video every time this show is brought up.
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f8386f No.33186
>>33183
I wouldn't hold it up to the standards of Red Dwarf for anything but production value, but it's certainly in the same vein.
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1c7e52 No.33187
>>24612
>>Speaking about >>>/sw/ likes its a place Star Trek fans should go
Why are you here now trying to get more users over at >>>/sw/?
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c5b9dc No.33194
>>33187
I have no interest in a Star Wars version of Star Trek. Star Wars is nice for children, but Star Trek is for grownups. Orville is the best Trek going currently. Let's see what happens when Captain Picard says, "Engage" again soon.
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47fb71 No.33197
>>33183
if you start with The Orville, you probably won't appreciate what comparisons you can make Star Trek; it will just be a somewhat funny space show with serious themes
if you do watch at least some Trek (don't have to do every episode, but TOS, TNG, and DS9 all have their must-see episodes) you'll appreciate that some episodes are done in the styles of the different shows, appreciate plot developments in a certain light, etc
in short, if you aren't familiar with what it's parodying, it won't be so much a parody. And you certainly won't appreciate that this parody is a better example of the franchise than the last 3 series in it
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f43b9f No.33198
>>33184
It's a shame that Charls didn't really watch the show.
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457743 No.33201
>>33197
Well I watched a couple of episodes now and I somewhat enjoyed it, even if the cucking in the pilot turned me off at first.
I was wrong to think it was pure satire/comedy and to compare it to RD. The best way I can describe it is "what if Stargate was Startrek?"
Because seriously the feel of this show is a lot like SG-1 to me. It's campy and it has "serious" themes sometimes but it doesn't take itself too seriously most of the time. There are aliens speaking english without explanation, aliens that look exactly like humans without explanation etc etc. It even has a Teal'c.
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457743 No.33202
>>33194
>but Star Trek is for grownups
Don't go around saying shit like that, son.
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8d8507 No.33204
>>24612
Welp, bad news.
>>33194
Aw babbys first space drama.
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e81057 No.33205
>>24644
Nobdy claimed he was. Basically he was a product of that time, and tht's when everyone was fairly racist by modern standards. Hell prior to WWII eugenics had more supporters in the USA than Germany - most of the arguments and policies the Germans used for defining the characteristics of, identifying, and justifying the rounding up of millions of people were fundamentally based on American scientific arguments from decades earlier. Just read popular American literature at the time, H P Lovecraft, Rober E. Howard and more authors all had rigidly defined racial characteristics ingrained in their works. IT was a normal part of living in those days to think in those ways.
The only thing anyone said is that Walt Disney was not a Nazi. And he wasn't, that claim is accurate. That does not conflate to mean he was an utterly modern thinker by today's standards trapped in some bygone era.
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836fdf No.33206
Hmm, maybe I'll try the show again. I watched the first two episodes or so and didn't like it. I clearly prefer Hyperdrive and Firefly.
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6c8b7a No.33207
>>33205
It says something that Walt Disney's famous "racist" work Song of the South is about the tamest thing I've ever seen. It depicts a black man being happy and pleasant, telling folk tales and singing songs. Wow. What a fucking Nazi he must have been to come up with that. A little insensitive by modern standards, maybe. But not the product of a man who seemed to hold any grudge against the black folk.
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c85608 No.33209
>>33207
>Song of the South is about the tamest thing I've ever seen. It depicts a black man being happy and pleasant, telling folk tales and singing songs. Wow. What a fucking Nazi he must have been to come up with that.
That's exactly the thing they take issue with, how happy he is. Any depiction of slavery that doesn't show the evil white people brutally whipping the strong Afrikangs 6 million times, while cackling and counting the plantation profits, is haram. It undermines critical race theory, makes the niggers less enthusiastic about reparations, and the whites less inclined to feel guilt..
>>33194
Stop using my flag, faggot.
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e67b8c No.33211
>>33201
>hasn't seen Star Trek
>"the Orville is more like Stargate"
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e84c58 No.33213
>>33201
>There are aliens speaking english without explanation.
Anon there is a shit ton of explanation for this in Star Gate.
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77af6b No.33218
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457743 No.33219
>>33213
No, there isn't. There's no translator at all.
>>33211
Yes, in tone/mood and campiness like I said. I've seen a bit of a few random episodes of trek and they weren't like SG at all.
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7d501d No.33220
>>33213
The explanation if my memory serves is that the Goa'uld can't be arsed to learn other languages so they just force everyone to speak english. A language from thousands of years AFTER the Goa'uld where driven off the planet, from a region thousands of miles from where the Goa'uld where hanging around (ancient egypt) and that evolved as a mishmash of several other european languages over thousands of years.
The original movie did it much better, with the locals speaking a decendant of ancient Egyptian and the aliens having their own language.
TL:DR The Stargate show was a lazy, half assed mess that should be forgotten.
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ac31a3 No.33222
>>33220
>The Stargate show was a lazy, half assed mess
Yeah, I used to think the everybody speaking English thing was lame too… then I watched STD's first season, and realized no, it's absolutely necessary. You just can't expect most actors to competently deliver huge blocks of lines in some language they know nothing about. The end result isn't worth it.
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7d501d No.33224
>>33222
STD did a LOT of shit badly, that they fucked it up hardly proves it can't be done.
Having a show entirely done in moonrunes with nothing but subtitles to guide you is how most of us prefer our vietnamese cartoons after all.
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08a2f0 No.33229
>>33224
Moonrune subtitles work because it's the actors' native language. They can emote and express themselves with a great degree of precision, and as a result their acting is stronger in the language, since they understand every word and what they're supposed to emphasize. Klingon subtitles wouldn't work because the only people practiced enough in Klingon to command it as well as they do English are too autistic to be placed in front of a camera. If the actors don't have that proficiency, they're effectively memorizing gibberish instead of lines, and are unable to give their delivery with any nuance. This is why Trek is in English, and it's for a similar reason that Trek aliens always have rubber foreheads; if the lower half of the face were obscured rather than the upper, it would be much harder for them to perform facial expressions.
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e562e1 No.33309
Interesting news and possibly a bad sign for the future of The Orville:
>Family Guy and The Orville creator Seth MacFarlane is leaving his longtime studio home at 20th Century Fox Television after more than two decades for a giant nine-figure television deal at NBCUniversal Content Studios. No one would comment but I hear the pact is for five years and worth at least $200 million.
https://deadline.com/2020/01/seth-macfarlane-mega-tv-overall-deal-with-nbcuniversal-content-studios-leaves-20th-tv-1202827104/
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