3e8886 No.24611 [View All]
Fellas… I'm not really cognisant of American laws, does the Disney buys Fox thing mean that the Mouse now owns the Orville?
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0a34a3 No.26250
>>26247
That clip is clearly inspired by Whorf's partner K'ehleyr smashing a table in TNG.
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0a34a3 No.26251
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51c7f9 No.26421
>>26245
He was a friendly manlet supernerd that was great at his job but couldn't into women no matter how much he tried until he accidentally made a holowaifu. No way could you write hime out. Wesley would take some of his time.
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89ed48 No.26424
>>26421
I don't think being friendly is much of a character trait since that's what people expect most of the time and also being shit with woman is certainly not make a character do.
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b23d44 No.26426
>>26421
I wish the writers had let Geordi be snarky more often. When they did, Burton could really deliver those lines. Geordi could have been a much more interesting character.
(On adrift Pakleds) "Let me guess, their rubber band broke."
(On a planet of weapons merchants with no life signs)
Troi: "What happened to all the people?"
Word: "War?"
Data: "Disease?"
La Forge: "A dissatisfied customer."
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89ed48 No.26469
>>26426
you know that'd been perfect for him.
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310a11 No.26471
>>26245
No, Geordi is fine. You have to remember that some of the writers (and a chunk of the audience in 1990) served on naval vessels. Not everyone on a real naval vessel is some complicated asshole with a personality. Some guys are just good positive engineers who are optimistic and cheery. Geordi is very much a military engineer.
Further, the character is very similar to Levar Burton's Reading Rainbow persona. He enjoys explaining shit to autistic aliens or robots or borg.
Contrast him with a 'three-dimensional' engineer character like Chief Tyrol from nuBSG, who is just an unlikeable asshole who is erratic and unrealistic and suddenly a Cylon. Geordi is the better character and not just because he's more positive, but because his reactions are more real.
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89ed48 No.26472
>>26471
see I wouldn't have much of an issue with this if he had something to do other then doing his job which we rarely get thus leaving me able to sum up his character like I did.
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cacabc No.30387
>>24945
Avis is the God of the bad guys. He's clearly mocking them by association.
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11efa5 No.30492
>>26117
You seem to be confused. It's not about muh right vs left false dichotomy. McFarlane is intelligent and mostly sensible. The true enemies aren't the ones voting "the other party".
Maybe you're too young to remember, but they've used "the left" and "the right" historically for their purposes instinctively.
The only ones who pick sides are the fools in the herd.
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9334c0 No.30497
>>26471
> just an unlikeable asshole who is erratic and unrealistic
To be fair it's sort of a point of the show that everyone is fucking stressed out to the point of near-breaking (or breaking) by the whole genocide and constant pursuit and exhaustion and rationing and endless paranoia thing, and that human civilisation is sustained by only the thinnest thread. What military order and decorum they do manage to keep is highlighted in contrast to this and is one of the reasons the Galactica becomes the nexus of sanity while random other ships are turning to cannibalism or whatever. They could all be much bigger assholes (like some they encounter) under the circumstances and it wouldn't be especially weird.
Completely agree with everything else you said (including the Cylon asspull). A+ post
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dfa922 No.30582
>>30492
>Your true allies are the ones who assist the enemy!
Retard alert: McFarlane is an enemy propagandist and a faggot, how he "really" feels might be interesting to Jesus if he repents on his deathbed, but it shouldn't be to anyone on this earth who wants to win.
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1c565f No.30594
What is going on in this thread?
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ffe1d0 No.32721
>>30387
>>24945
Avis is anoter car rental company; in other words, a competitor to Hertz who will happily rent the NRA cars. Glad I found out that Hertz is a bunch of commies tho, didn't know this previously.
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705748 No.33008
>>30594
>Seth McFarlane, a leftoid, makes good tv
>mostly keeps politics out of it because he understands that currentyear politics are bad tv
>autists cannot separate art from artist
>attempt to square everything away in the autism box by either claiming Seth is secretly /ourguy/ or that the Orville was never good
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42942b No.33017
>>33008
Pretty much this. CBS butthurt that Seth understood Trek and won't subvert it.
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f95740 No.33033
>>33008
seth is more of a left leaning libertarian though, not an authoritarian like all these other jerks are.
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aff932 No.33035
>>33008
>autists cannot separate art from artist
its this
its always this
i dont care if the dude slaughtered his own mother in cold blood. if he makes quality entertainment, hes an asset in this world of unrepentant shit.
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c14b23 No.33047
>>32721
I guess it's good that you didn't know since it means you don't watch TV. Shit was all over talmudvision when it happened.
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f43b9f No.33071
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Here's a tour of the Orville Interactive Fan Experience.
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3d32cc No.33080
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3d32cc No.33081
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3d32cc No.33082
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3d32cc No.33083
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3d32cc No.33084
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3d32cc No.33085
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3d32cc No.33087
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457743 No.33183
I'm thinking of watching this show. Never watched any trek before and none of it really seems interesting to me but I heard this was some kind of light-hearted comfy satire of sorts? Maybe some kind of trek Red Dwarf? Is it true?
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a42128 No.33184
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I can't help but think of this video every time this show is brought up.
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f8386f No.33186
>>33183
I wouldn't hold it up to the standards of Red Dwarf for anything but production value, but it's certainly in the same vein.
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1c7e52 No.33187
>>24612
>>Speaking about >>>/sw/ likes its a place Star Trek fans should go
Why are you here now trying to get more users over at >>>/sw/?
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c5b9dc No.33194
>>33187
I have no interest in a Star Wars version of Star Trek. Star Wars is nice for children, but Star Trek is for grownups. Orville is the best Trek going currently. Let's see what happens when Captain Picard says, "Engage" again soon.
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47fb71 No.33197
>>33183
if you start with The Orville, you probably won't appreciate what comparisons you can make Star Trek; it will just be a somewhat funny space show with serious themes
if you do watch at least some Trek (don't have to do every episode, but TOS, TNG, and DS9 all have their must-see episodes) you'll appreciate that some episodes are done in the styles of the different shows, appreciate plot developments in a certain light, etc
in short, if you aren't familiar with what it's parodying, it won't be so much a parody. And you certainly won't appreciate that this parody is a better example of the franchise than the last 3 series in it
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f43b9f No.33198
>>33184
It's a shame that Charls didn't really watch the show.
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457743 No.33201
>>33197
Well I watched a couple of episodes now and I somewhat enjoyed it, even if the cucking in the pilot turned me off at first.
I was wrong to think it was pure satire/comedy and to compare it to RD. The best way I can describe it is "what if Stargate was Startrek?"
Because seriously the feel of this show is a lot like SG-1 to me. It's campy and it has "serious" themes sometimes but it doesn't take itself too seriously most of the time. There are aliens speaking english without explanation, aliens that look exactly like humans without explanation etc etc. It even has a Teal'c.
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457743 No.33202
>>33194
>but Star Trek is for grownups
Don't go around saying shit like that, son.
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8d8507 No.33204
>>24612
Welp, bad news.
>>33194
Aw babbys first space drama.
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e81057 No.33205
>>24644
Nobdy claimed he was. Basically he was a product of that time, and tht's when everyone was fairly racist by modern standards. Hell prior to WWII eugenics had more supporters in the USA than Germany - most of the arguments and policies the Germans used for defining the characteristics of, identifying, and justifying the rounding up of millions of people were fundamentally based on American scientific arguments from decades earlier. Just read popular American literature at the time, H P Lovecraft, Rober E. Howard and more authors all had rigidly defined racial characteristics ingrained in their works. IT was a normal part of living in those days to think in those ways.
The only thing anyone said is that Walt Disney was not a Nazi. And he wasn't, that claim is accurate. That does not conflate to mean he was an utterly modern thinker by today's standards trapped in some bygone era.
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836fdf No.33206
Hmm, maybe I'll try the show again. I watched the first two episodes or so and didn't like it. I clearly prefer Hyperdrive and Firefly.
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6c8b7a No.33207
>>33205
It says something that Walt Disney's famous "racist" work Song of the South is about the tamest thing I've ever seen. It depicts a black man being happy and pleasant, telling folk tales and singing songs. Wow. What a fucking Nazi he must have been to come up with that. A little insensitive by modern standards, maybe. But not the product of a man who seemed to hold any grudge against the black folk.
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c85608 No.33209
>>33207
>Song of the South is about the tamest thing I've ever seen. It depicts a black man being happy and pleasant, telling folk tales and singing songs. Wow. What a fucking Nazi he must have been to come up with that.
That's exactly the thing they take issue with, how happy he is. Any depiction of slavery that doesn't show the evil white people brutally whipping the strong Afrikangs 6 million times, while cackling and counting the plantation profits, is haram. It undermines critical race theory, makes the niggers less enthusiastic about reparations, and the whites less inclined to feel guilt..
>>33194
Stop using my flag, faggot.
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e67b8c No.33211
>>33201
>hasn't seen Star Trek
>"the Orville is more like Stargate"
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e84c58 No.33213
>>33201
>There are aliens speaking english without explanation.
Anon there is a shit ton of explanation for this in Star Gate.
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77af6b No.33218
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457743 No.33219
>>33213
No, there isn't. There's no translator at all.
>>33211
Yes, in tone/mood and campiness like I said. I've seen a bit of a few random episodes of trek and they weren't like SG at all.
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7d501d No.33220
>>33213
The explanation if my memory serves is that the Goa'uld can't be arsed to learn other languages so they just force everyone to speak english. A language from thousands of years AFTER the Goa'uld where driven off the planet, from a region thousands of miles from where the Goa'uld where hanging around (ancient egypt) and that evolved as a mishmash of several other european languages over thousands of years.
The original movie did it much better, with the locals speaking a decendant of ancient Egyptian and the aliens having their own language.
TL:DR The Stargate show was a lazy, half assed mess that should be forgotten.
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ac31a3 No.33222
>>33220
>The Stargate show was a lazy, half assed mess
Yeah, I used to think the everybody speaking English thing was lame too… then I watched STD's first season, and realized no, it's absolutely necessary. You just can't expect most actors to competently deliver huge blocks of lines in some language they know nothing about. The end result isn't worth it.
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7d501d No.33224
>>33222
STD did a LOT of shit badly, that they fucked it up hardly proves it can't be done.
Having a show entirely done in moonrunes with nothing but subtitles to guide you is how most of us prefer our vietnamese cartoons after all.
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08a2f0 No.33229
>>33224
Moonrune subtitles work because it's the actors' native language. They can emote and express themselves with a great degree of precision, and as a result their acting is stronger in the language, since they understand every word and what they're supposed to emphasize. Klingon subtitles wouldn't work because the only people practiced enough in Klingon to command it as well as they do English are too autistic to be placed in front of a camera. If the actors don't have that proficiency, they're effectively memorizing gibberish instead of lines, and are unable to give their delivery with any nuance. This is why Trek is in English, and it's for a similar reason that Trek aliens always have rubber foreheads; if the lower half of the face were obscured rather than the upper, it would be much harder for them to perform facial expressions.
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e562e1 No.33309
Interesting news and possibly a bad sign for the future of The Orville:
>Family Guy and The Orville creator Seth MacFarlane is leaving his longtime studio home at 20th Century Fox Television after more than two decades for a giant nine-figure television deal at NBCUniversal Content Studios. No one would comment but I hear the pact is for five years and worth at least $200 million.
https://deadline.com/2020/01/seth-macfarlane-mega-tv-overall-deal-with-nbcuniversal-content-studios-leaves-20th-tv-1202827104/
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