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File: 0cbe72bef0c1d93⋯.jpg (68.69 KB,540x478,270:239,the-birth-of-venus-detail-….jpg)

 No.1000 [Last50 Posts]

A thread dedicated to Venus et al. A thread to admire the divine feminine.

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 No.1002

File: b6c04f2ccc9984d⋯.jpg (1.9 MB,2040x1420,102:71,William-Adolphe_Bouguereau….jpg)

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 No.1003

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>>1000 CHECKED

>William-Adolphe Bouguereau

Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.

Do you know if there are any sapphic stories or myths from Greek or Greco-Roman mythology?

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 No.1005

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File: b7040a2164b0666⋯.jpg (2.93 MB,4158x2146,2079:1073,John_Bauer-Freja.jpg)

File: a63d9aee8b7cba1⋯.jpg (881.79 KB,2400x2091,800:697,Franz_von_Stuck_-Wounded_A….jpg)

I guess I am cheating a bit by including an Amazon…

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 No.1006

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>>1003

>William-Adolphe Bouguereau

His work is amazing.

>Do you know if there are any sapphic stories or myths from Greek or Greco-Roman mythology?

I recall a small reference to sapphism and Aphrodite in a doco I watched but can't recall the details presently. Though I did find this poem by Sappho to Aphrodite.

http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/vandiver.shtml

>>1005

Amazons are more than welcome. And any qt3.14s, and any beautiful women.

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 No.1007

File: cb84dc472e51b4b⋯.png (109.66 KB,640x534,320:267,sappho - Hector Leroux.png)

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 No.1008

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>>1006

>>1007

I found a mention of lesbians in The Symposium by Plato.

<Human beings were once, [Aristophanes] tells us, double creatures made up of double males, double females, or two genders united. He uses this myth to "explain" the origin of differing sexual orientations. For when Zeus, as a punishment, severed these double beings, the halves tried to recombine: hence male homosexuality, lesbianism, and heterosexuality.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150206010046/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/plato,3.html

And a direct quote from Symposium:

<the women who are a section of the woman do not care for men, but have female attachments

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/symposium.html

And another translation of the same line:

<Women sectioned from a woman pay scant heed to men, but are turned rather toward women, and lesbians come from this sex.

https://archive.org/stream/TheSymposium/The%20Symposium#page/n13

Since the translations vary so much, I tried to find several and compare them, but some excluded the text I was looking for, and put a disclaimer in brackets, giving a very sparse rundown of the ideas and themes that were being touched upon. I guess it could have been cut for lack of space, but I would not be surprised if the prim and proper Victorians who translated the text were too squeamish to include anything alluding to same sex relationships in the ancient world.

Winnaretta Singer was an American-born socialite and heiress, daughter of the inventor of the Singer sewing machine.

<Singer entered into two marriages that were unconsummated, and openly enjoyed many high-profile relationships with women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnaretta_Singer

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 No.1070

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Not divine, but still a very fine depiction of sapphic relationships in art, and extra noteworthy for the repressed era they were made in.

The artist appears to have been no stranger to controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Courbet#Notoriety

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 No.1071

File: 5dbc1e212425949⋯.jpg (10.42 MB,11000x9113,11000:9113,Courbet Origin-of-the-Worl….jpg)

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>>1070

>Not divine

No problemo, this thread is for any beautiful women, in image, idea or otherwise.

<This culminated in The Origin of the World (L'Origine du monde) (1866), which depicts female genitalia and was not publicly exhibited until 1988

I thought that name sounded familiar. It seemed to have served as a strong influence for Duchamp's final fuck you to the modern art world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Origine_du_monde

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tant_donn%C3%A9s

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 No.1191

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>>1071

wew! Powerful stuff.

I would have thought L’Origine du monde would have been put on display much, much earlier than that!

And I think you are correct in the painting’s influence on Duchamp’s sculpture.

Artemis/Diana (Goddess of the Hunt, as you pointed out on that other board) & Andromeda by George Owen Wynne Apperley, and the Three Graces from Sandro Botticelli’s painting Primavera.

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 No.1306

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A radical depature from the previous artstyles, but I love Patrick Nagel’s porcelain-skinned goddesses – gorgeous, seductive women & a vibrant 1980s colour palette.

Patrick Nagel - Playboy Art Icon (1945 - 1984) - The Art History Archive: http://archive.is/TNVB3

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 No.1308

>>1306

Very nice. Will check him out.

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 No.1309

File: a02631c0bac2820⋯.jpg (2.1 MB,2317x3169,2317:3169,Joan Collins by Patrick Na….jpg)

File: 7ba0ca209a01def⋯.jpg (2.25 MB,1966x2856,983:1428,nagel4.jpg)

>>1308

<Nagel's dynamic, vibrant paintings prompted famous models and other celebrities to ask if they could pose for him. He designed a limited-edition serigraph for Dynasty's Joan Collins, whom Nagel felt had the look of his "women of the eighties": sophisticated and self-confident, a professional who was not afraid to be glamorous. She now owns five Nagel pieces.

The fifth pic in the last post, and the second one in this post reminds me a lot of the painting Portrait of Madame X by John Singer Sargent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_Madame_X

I saw a review of The Art of Pack Nagel, and you can get a used copy for under $1 on Amazon! Definitely gonna grab myself a copy.

https://glamourphotography.co/book-reviews/the-art-of-patrick-nagel-by-nagel-foreword-by-elena-g-millie/

It is a real shame that the 2015 Comedy Central cartoon which uses his trademark style was so abysmal; the humour was Family Guy-tier, and the protagonist was a grade A asshole. Still, the 1980s style synth score and the animation was fantastic.

Also, I remember seeing one archived IMDb thread where one guy was sperging out due to the lack of ‘diversity’; everyone on the show had the same Nagel woman style porcelain white skin.

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 No.1319

File: 2259a116b0cfc58⋯.jpg (70.63 KB,640x663,640:663,skill.jpg)

>>1309

>The fifth pic in the last post, and the second one in this post reminds me a lot of the painting Portrait of Madame X by John Singer Sargent

<When the painting first appeared at the Paris Salon under the title Portrait de Mme *** in 1884, people were shocked and scandalized

lol wut

But then 7 years later everyone loved the painting by Courtois. I guess a white dress makes all the difference.

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 No.1322

File: 555dc8ea975085d⋯.png (337.86 KB,620x417,620:417,Madame X comparison.png)

>>1319

In the original the one of the shoulder straps was provocatively hanging from her shoulder, which I guess was a bit too much for people back then? So Sargent pussied out and painted over it.

An ancestor of mine had something similar done back in the mid 1600s; she had commissioned a portrait from a painter in Holland depicting herself and her husband, but she wasn’t happy with it and had it redone; she was completely painted over and done in a much more conservative style and outfit. Even an apple on the table she and her husband were posing by was painted over and replaced with a human skull and a hourglass. Maybe that was the style at the time?

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 No.1342

I like this thread and I like seeing Nagel in it. To think that I almost made a Nagel inspired portrait of the dethroned Emma makes me feel like I dodged a bullet.

Synthwave artist Trevor Something has made similar art inspired by him, but unfortunately I can't find it in his website anymore. I'll search for it in the archives later.

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 No.1345

File: d65ac42e2e29e04⋯.jpg (2.41 MB,5315x4075,1063:815,Philippe de Champaigne - V….jpg)

>>1322

>Even an apple on the table she and her husband were posing by was painted over and replaced with a human skull and a hourglass. Maybe that was the style at the time?

I think memento mori was big at the time yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori#In_Europe_from_the_Medieval_era_to_the_Victorian_era

<A version of the theme in the artistic genre of still life is more often referred to as a vanitas, Latin for "vanity". These include symbols of mortality, whether obvious ones such as skulls or more subtle ones such as a flower losing its petals.

The hourglass would also fit in with vanitas

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 No.1346

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>>1345

>I think memento mori was big at the time yes.

That makes sense, since the portrait was done in memory of her deceased husband.

You can see the portrait here, along with an X-ray photograph taken during the restoration process, which shows how she was originally painted:

Irgens-epitafiet - Bergstaden Røros og Kobberverket: https://web.archive.org/web/20180412190630/http://www.bergstaden.org/no/roros-kirke/den-gamle-kirka/irgens-epitafiet

The portrait can be viewed in Røros church – because she and her husband were so disliked by the people who lived there, the portrait had to be placed behind the altar, so that people wouldn’t have to look at it during church sermon.

>>1342

Maybe you could make one to honour our new muse and honorary Emma?

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 No.1347

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>>1346

>That makes sense, since the portrait was done in memory of her deceased husband.

I was going to ask how that was done but reading the article it says the painting was probably initially two separate portraits later joined together. I wonder if she had it altered later, when the joined painting became a memorial piece. As the under painting is her younger.

>because she and her husband were so disliked by the people who lived there, the portrait had to be placed behind the altar, so that people wouldn’t have to look at it during church sermon.

Kek. Because he was the mining director?

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 No.1348

File: 931fe111c26581d⋯.jpg (115.84 KB,704x1200,44:75,Albert Joseph Pénot - La F….jpg)

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>>1347

It could have been done as two halves to make it easier to transport – it is quite large, so it might have been a hassle to send it all the way from Amsterdam, which seems like the likeliest place it was made.

There in an in-depth article linked to at the bottom of the page detailing the restoration-process in detail, and if I remember correctly it was suggested that she had sent the painter sketches or other portraits, since they could sit model for him. That could explain why she looks younger in the original.

And like Sargent’s Portrait of Madame X, the original appears to be a little more ‘daring’, with her dress more revealing/her shoulders more exposed, and the jewellery she is wearing. Interestingly she is also holding a flower up to her chest in the original…

It seems she wanted to portray herself as less flashy by wearing more modest clothing and not displaying her jewels in the painting.

>Kek. Because he was the mining director?

Aye. He had no experience running a massive mining operation at all, and he was given the position of director by his brother, who owned the mine, having more or less stolen it from under the nose of someone else, so there was probably some bad blood there from the get-go. Workers were supposedly treated quite harshly and unfairly, and according to Wikipedia ‘the local farmers were given working obligations’, i.e. forced labour.

In all serioussnes though; there was at least one time when it came to a violent confrontation with the labourers when his oldest son had taken over as director.

Btw., have you noticed that up till at least the 1920s, witches in art are depicted riding their brooms ‘backwards’?

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 No.1351

File: f3c716900eec42b⋯.jpg (95.19 KB,1240x775,8:5,bewitched-credits-ftr.jpg)

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>>1348

>In all serioussnes though; there was at least one time when it came to a violent confrontation with the labourers when his oldest son had taken over as director.

I'm guessing it didn't turn out well for the workers.

>Btw., have you noticed that up till at least the 1920s, witches in art are depicted riding their brooms ‘backwards’?

No. How odd. Maybe that was common until movies/tv changed it. Like Bewitched.

A quick search shows some depictions with them bristles back. And one shows both orientations. Found this thread on the subject but haven't read through it beyond a couple of replies. https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-77445.html

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 No.1352

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>>1351

>I'm guessing it didn't turn out well for the workers.

Actually, I think the situation deesclated rather quickly when the owner’s pregnant wife was knocked or pushed over onto the ground. The workers had gathered outside the director’s house and were rather angry.

>A quick search shows some depictions with them bristles back. And one shows both orientations.

I suspected it had something to do with witches and Satanism; as long as you do something backwards it instantly becomes Satanic.

The explanation that it was to replicate riding a horse, and the bristles being the head makes a lot of sense though. I rather prefer the backwards/bristles at the front look tbh.

It seems like this look went out of fashion before the 1930s for some reason.

Check out the two witches in this painting; the one on the right looks rather delectable IMHO, and I can’t tell if the old crone on the left is breastfeeding or just kidnapping the child.

here is the big question though: vampiresses or witches?

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 No.1363

>>1352

>The explanation that it was to replicate riding a horse, and the bristles being the head makes a lot of sense though.

For sure.

>Check out the two witches in this painting; the one on the right looks rather delectable IMHO, and I can’t tell if the old crone on the left is breastfeeding or just kidnapping the child.

Everyone looks like they're having a grand old time. The crone does look like she's somehow breastfeeding through her shirt doesn't she.

>here is the big question though: vampiresses or witches?

Decisions, decisions.

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 No.1365

File: 8235c7d70ef4486⋯.jpg (92.78 KB,750x977,750:977,Nótt riding Hrímfaxi by Pe….jpg)

File: d065d012d01a459⋯.jpg (823.47 KB,1704x2088,71:87,Valkyrien by P. N. Arbo 18….jpg)

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>>1363

>Everyone looks like they're having a grand old time.

Except for that priest, who is trying to get de underjordiske (the subterraneans) to go back, and that poor snowman looks like he’s seen some shit…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_folklore#Beings

I think the painting depicts a variant of Åsgardsreia (aka The Wild Hunt; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt), when supernatural creatures come en masse to traumatise humans around Yuletide (the day of the Winter Solstice in particular).

>Decisions, decisions.

You’re not gonna copout by saying ‘why don’t we have both?’ are you?

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 No.1369

File: 2526ac8a6a31be3⋯.webm (463.93 KB,720x400,9:5,Fright Night 2 2013 - Jam….webm)

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>>1365

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_folklore#Beings

<Even the helpful tomte, nisse, gårdbo or gårdbuk could turn into a fearsome adversary if not treated with caution and respect.

I remember about 8 years ago I had a dream where I was kind of in a mess and driving erratically. I drove into a mail box or something. The Green Man cam out of his house and talked to me. It was incredible. He was benevolent but also a sense of danger. I was cautious and refused to enter the house. Then a bus came along for me to get on and I can't remember the exact figures but they were underworld beings and very friendly. It was like the bus full of beings offered protection. I woke up feeling so much better than when I had gone to sleep.

>You’re not gonna copout by saying ‘why don’t we have both?’ are you?

You won't let me get away with anything will you?

Ok, I think I'd have to go with vampiresses

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 No.1372

File: fdfa255eeeb4c91⋯.jpg (10.19 MB,5446x4458,2723:2229,Edvard_Munch_-_Vampire_(18….jpg)

>>1369

The only Green Man I know of was Raymond Robinson aka Charlie No-Face, who was badly injured in an accident as a child and was so badly disfigured he would only go outside after dark – a very sad story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Robinson_%28Green_Man%29

Not at all sure how to interpret that dream, but then most dreams are just a mishmash of feelings, ideas and memories we have been thinking about recently.

I mentioned a docu on Pompeii a while back, and some of the souvernirs based on ancient Roman practices reminded me a lot of the nisse from Scandinavian folklore, with their pointy red hats. I think Anne Holtsmark mentioned in her updated (actually almost completely rewritten) edition of Norrøn Mytologi (Norse Mythology) that nisser (plural) seem to have their origin in Roman folklore/myths, and that they were some kind of guardian spirit protecting the home and family, which is what they do in our folklore as well – unless they are provoked of course, then they are rather unfriendly and possibly dangerous.

>You won't let me get away with anything will you?

Just looking for a straight answer :^)

>Ok, I think I'd have to go with vampiresses

I guess your answer begs the question: Is she really into you, or just after your blood?

The fable of the scorpion and the frog also comes to mind – can she fight her nature and not kill you? Wouldn’t she just be using her feminine wiles to get your blood and leave you for a stiff?

That is one of the interpretations of the story in Låt den rätte komma in aka Let the Right One In (2008); is Eli really in love with Oskar, or is she just using him? Since she became a vampire so young she can’t kill her victims so easily, so she has someone who helps her and protects her and looks after her during daytime. It could be that Oskar will take over that role and grow old and be replaced himself some time in the future…

Btw., do you think vampire Willow from the alternate dimension would be a vampire witch?

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 No.1377

File: a22607f35e43918⋯.jpg (27.41 KB,307x307,1:1,im_so_gay_i_cant_even_thin….jpg)

>>1372

>Just looking for a straight answer :^)

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 No.1378

File: 5a040761c359785⋯.jpg (11.77 MB,3109x4000,3109:4000,Edvard_Munch_-_Madonna_(18….jpg)

>>1372

>The only Green Man I know of was Raymond Robinson aka Charlie No-Face

That is sad indeed. But at least it's written that he had good family and neighbours.

>Not at all sure how to interpret that dream,

I took it as telling me that my current suffering at that time was superficial and I'd be fine. I love having dreams where I meet or interact with these things, but they are few and far between.

>but then most dreams are just a mishmash of feelings, ideas and memories we have been thinking about recently.

That's why it stuck out. I had not at all been thinking of anything to do with the Green Man or otherworldy stuff. It was an odd dream.

>I guess your answer begs the question: Is she really into you, or just after your blood?

Well, I guess as long as I stick to the moving image I should be safe.

>That is one of the interpretations of the story in Låt den rätte komma in aka Let the Right One In (2008)

I never ended up watching this or the remake. The idea of watching children vampires doesn't appeal to me. Everyone says the original is great though. Do you think I should watch it?

>Btw., do you think vampire Willow from the alternate dimension would be a vampire witch?

Vampire Willow appeared to be dumber than a box of hammers. I doubt she would have the discipline to learn witchcraft. Then again, with all that time on her hands maybe at some point in the future she would pick it up.

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 No.1387

File: 0b33ed010326ec5⋯.jpg (86.21 KB,427x1000,427:1000,A_Priestess_by_Godward.jpg)

>>1378

>That is sad indeed. But at least it's written that he had good family and neighbours.

Idunno, man. I would probably consider ending it if I ended up like that. Not being able to outside during daytime, blinded & horribly disfigured, and missing one arm…

>I love having dreams where I meet or interact with these things, but they are few and far between.

Aye. I would love to be able to achieve lucid dreaming ‘on command’… It just sounds so interesting to be able to have (some) control of your dreams.

>Well, I guess as long as I stick to the moving image I should be safe.

2D vampiresses? Safe but boring tbh.

>I never ended up watching this or the remake. The idea of watching children vampires doesn't appeal to me. Everyone says the original is great though. Do you think I should watch it?

I really liked the original film. Unlike a lot of vampire films it manages to stay somewhat grounded in reality in terms of tone and characters. It is also surprisingly dark. In a way it is a dark romance about two outsiders who find each other. Then there is the alternate view that Eli is manipulating Oskar into replacing Håkan, her previous ‘helper’.

I think Eli genuinely cared for Håkan, and that they met when he was about the same age as her – as the years passed though, I think they grew apart – he became older while she stays forever young. Unless Eli ends up turning Oskar at some point history will likely repeat itself…

Like Fucking Åmål it feels a lot more real and honest in a way that English speaking films do for me. The snowy setting also helps.

If you do get around to seeing it, I’d like to hear your take on the ending and Oskar & Eli’s relationship – and what you think of Eli not being like other girls.

I’ve got the film on DVD, and there is an audio commentary track with the director & writer – the writer also wrote the book the film is based on. I might give it another watch…

>Vampire Willow appeared to be dumber than a box of hammers.

I do like her happy, positive attitude – maybe it is a Yin & Yang sorta thing; she is Willow’s mirror image, ie if Willow wasn’t brainy and bookish? It’d be strange having your doppelgänger hitting on you… Though, if you were both cute girls that’d certainly help!

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 No.1401

File: 462393b8fea8833⋯.gif (4.24 MB,360x360,1:1,ruby smile.gif)

>>1387

>It just sounds so interesting to be able to have (some) control of your dreams.

Yes me too. Every time I realise I'm dreaming, I wake up. Have never got the hang of lucid dreaming. Not really. I guess I can kind of direct how I want things to go sometimes but not with much conscious awareness.

>2D vampiresses? Safe but boring tbh.

True. I imagine if it were anything but 2D, I would either freeze, panic, or channel Buffy. Not very sexy.

What would you do if you met a witch? Wouldn't you be worried you could be turned into a toad or completely removed from existence (ala Thelma)?

>If you do get around to seeing it, I’d like to hear your take on the ending and Oskar & Eli’s relationship

I will add it to my list, but probably won't get around to watching it for some time.

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 No.1408

File: b15f822fee951cd⋯.jpg (1.2 MB,1000x1800,5:9,The_witches_Sabbath,_by_Lu….jpg)

>>1401

>Every time I realise I'm dreaming, I wake up.

It’s like the brain is telling us ‘no fun allowed’ and overrides our efforts. Wonder if there are any techniques you can try to train yourself so that doesn’t happen, or if there’s been any serious research into lucid dreaming.

>I imagine if it were anything but 2D, I would either freeze, panic, or channel Buffy. Not very sexy.

Depends on how you’d find out though, right? What if you met them, got to know them, and only after a while, when you’d already started liking them, she drops the bomb and comes clean about being a bloodsucker?

Not a fan of the OP bloodsuckers myself – superhuman strength, ability to fly, mind control/hypnotism, can turn into a bat/wolf/mist/cat… The idea that she would use seduction to lure in victims is much more interesting and appealing.

>What would you do if you met a witch? Wouldn't you be worried you could be turned into a toad or completely removed from existence (ala Thelma)?

If I knew from the get-go, I’d probably be a tad worried and try to distance myself, based on what I’ve seen of witches in pop culture. First I’d assume she was a LARPer though – a New Age Wiccan or something. A witch might fuck you up real bad if you got on her bad side…

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 No.1812

File: 6a95b81c2e79beb⋯.jpg (197.61 KB,1215x1024,1215:1024,Mareridt_(The_Nightmare)_b….jpg)

‘Mareridt’ (1800) by Nicolai Abildgaard, after Johann Heinrich Füssli’s (1781) ‘Nachtmahr’. In Abildgaard’s version there are two nude women sleeping on a bed, with a small daemon sitting on the chest of one of them, causing her nightmares.

The look of the daemon reminded me a lot of the daemon in the book in the Baywatch Nights episode Circle of Fear (2x05).

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nachtmahr_%28Abildgaard%29.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG

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 No.1817

File: 745d7d22ce11844⋯.jpg (425.38 KB,1604x900,401:225,HBIC.jpg)

>>1812

I was wondering why it looked familiar before reading your text. Cheeky Abildgaard.

>Baywatch Nights episode Circle of Fear (2x05)

I watched 1 or 2 eps of the first season but haven't watched further yet. I have been continuing to slowly work my way through 'Baywatch' though and guess who is in Season 5 e5? Charisma Carpenter. I didn't even recognise her until I heard her speaking. And just looking at IMDB now, it was her first role!

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 No.1819

File: f578260dda53f85⋯.jpg (1.74 MB,1658x928,829:464,baigneuses_1890s.jpg)

>>1817

So you are starting with the first season of Baywatch Nights? At least the second season has supernatural hijinks going on, the first one seems like it is just pure cheese. Read that Hasselhoff dresses up in drag in one episode in Season 1, so you’ve got that to look forward to at least.

My fav Season 2 episodes:

01 – “Terror of the Deep” –

02 – “Creature” –

03 – “The Rig” – great fun, great gore effects on the arm, similar to Caltiki, the Immortal Monster (1959), and a nice throwback to oldschool monster films.

05 – “Circle of Fear” – guest star that guy who played Ethan Rayne in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

06 – “Night Whispers” – Truly enjoyable! Mitch catches the attention of a seductive vampiress.

07 – “Space Spore” – very X-Files-inspired, fun dialogue

13 – “Frozen Out of Time” – Danish actor Sven-Tore Thorsen, who played Thorgrim in Conan the Barbarian (1982), guest stars as a Viking who gets thawed out and runs around the L.A. harbour. This one is so bad (& bizarre) it’s good. What were they thinking?

16 – “Zargtha” – Genuinely enjoyable. The night-time scenes, the dark back-alleys, the off-season beach, the abandoned/condemned building… Great stuff! Keeping the manwolf in the shadows, and only giving us a teasing glimpse of it, coupled with the howls was a smart move. That fucking kid though.

17 – “Servant” – that one Egyptian-looking guy from The Mummy (1999) guest stars.

19 – “The Eight Seal” – Emotional/melodramatic – the scene transition towards the end, to the fireplace was nice, similar to the one in Roger Corman’s The Pit and the Pendulum (1961) – quite clever!

These two Season 2 episodes are a real snooze fest with hardly any redeeming qualities, so avoid them at all cost:

11 – “Mobius”

14 – “Nights to Dragon One” – Vincent Schiavelli guest stars in this abysmal episode. “If you die in the game you die IRL!”

>I have been continuing to slowly work my way through 'Baywatch' though and guess who is in Season 5 e5? Charisma Carpenter. I didn't even recognise her until I heard her speaking. And just looking at IMDB now, it was her first role!

Golly gosh! Look at that lovely smile. How could have guessed she’d strut around the hallways of Sunnydale High School with her posse and put the nerds in their place in a few years?

Watched the first season of Magnum, P.I. this past summer, and Miguel Ferrer who played Albert Rosenfield in Twin Peaks guest stars in one episode. He plays the young version of a character at the outbreak of WWII, and his IRL dad plays the older version of the character in the (then) present day. In the flashback scenes to WWII his sweetheart is played by Anne Kathleen Lockhart, and her IRL mother, June Lockhart plays the older version. Brilliant way to do it – you really buy that these could be the older/younger versions of the same characters because of the familial resemblance.

Lillian Müller showed up in the first episode for a brief moment too.

And to finish things off… Came across some rather interesting vagina dentata-esque artwork by noted ukiyo-e style artist Utagawa Kuniyoshi (1797-1861) a few weeks back. It is highly stylistic, but probably NSFW.

http://web.archive.org/web/20170727051628/https://shungagallery.com/kuniyoshis-excellent-erotic-ghost-series-featuring-phallus-and-vulva-shaped-demons/

http://web.archive.org/web/20170727051632/http://shungagallery.com/kuniyoshis-excellent-erotic-ghost-series-featuring-phallus-vulva-shaped-demons-p2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utagawa_Kuniyoshi

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 No.1823

File: 3154dd76935da31⋯.jpg (141.8 KB,524x729,524:729,Kuniyoshi 'Phallus serpent….jpg)

File: cf9f4f9cd6cb203⋯.png (448.43 KB,522x420,87:70,Shunga – Kunisada – Lesbia….PNG)

>>1819

<This toad ends up being a wise immortal who lived in the mountain. He teaches Jiraiya toad magic, which allows him to do many absurd deeds including metamorphosing into a giant toad.

Top Kek

Looking at the artwork in the wayback pages, I couldn't help but notice that the artists depict the men with enormous members. Also found this sapphic depiction.

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 No.1826

File: 68a34cc58fcbb8d⋯.jpg (155.6 KB,1055x800,211:160,don'tknowwhereigotitfrom.jpg)

>>1819

>So you are starting with the first season of Baywatch Nights?

Yes. Though I remember now I watched S2 ep1 first, then decided to watch from the start.

>the first one seems like it is just pure cheese.

Sounds about right. It was them setting up the PI agency and very cheesy already.

>Watched the first season of Magnum, P.I. this past summer

I remember catching episodes of this as a kid. Looked like such a nice life.

>Brilliant way to do it – you really buy that these could be the older/younger versions of the same characters because of the familial resemblance.

Very cool.

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 No.1846

File: 9b045c8dd1de131⋯.png (66.05 KB,377x334,377:334,feels sticky, man.png)

File: 00cf569e9d7535e⋯.jpg (296.57 KB,1069x769,1069:769,‘Lesbian couple with torto….jpg)

>>1823

Oi! Watch it, m8!

>Looking at the artwork in the wayback pages, I couldn't help but notice that the artists depict the men with enormous members. Also found this sapphic depiction.

Really makes you think. You don’t suppose they could be trying to compensate for something, do you?

My favourite was the skeleton with the raging boner.

Found a higher res version of the sapphic one. It does look like a “struggle snuggle”.

Stumbled across the mother lode of /sapphic/ ukiyo-e art: http://web.archive.org/web/20190411204528/https://shungagallery.com/lesbian-shunga-ukiyo-e/

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 No.1863

File: fe74cfeea407f06⋯.jpg (471.54 KB,699x466,3:2,mfw.jpg)

>>1846

>Really makes you think. You don’t suppose they could be trying to compensate for something, do you?

It did make me wonder if there was something I didn't know about Japanese men.

>My favourite was the skeleton with the raging boner.

That was great.

>Found a higher res version of the sapphic one. It does look like a “struggle snuggle”.

Now that you mention it, it does. It's hard to read these images with fucked up perspectives and strangely proportioned figures.

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 No.1976

File: 0e59a7772ec3f15⋯.jpg (559.26 KB,1000x1716,250:429,Fleurs-du-mal_spleen_et_id….jpg)

1900 illustration for Les Fleurs du mal/The Flowers of Evil by Carlos Schwabe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Schwabe

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 No.2802

File: 50a3c9cd25d601f⋯.jpg (4.24 MB,2102x3649,2102:3649,Chris_Madsen_the_witches_t….jpg)

Just got my hands on this. Impressed and glad I backed it now.

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 No.2803

File: b6a445b87133707⋯.webm (4.29 MB,720x300,12:5,Polaroid_2019_Fortune_tel….webm)

>>2802

Telling someone’s fortune might be a nice and subtle way to “test the waters” as well, if the cherry trick is too forward. Be sure to burn some incense and turn on the Himalayn salt lamp to set the mood.

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 No.2805

File: 13f1597917a2936⋯.jpg (35.81 KB,712x715,712:715,EYd2ie5XQAApSIE.jpg)

>>2803

Kek her face at the end. Will try and give this a watch this weekend.

>Be sure to burn some incense and turn on the Himalayn salt lamp to set the mood.

Always on hand and ready to go.

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 No.3486

File: 5641d2a50530cad⋯.jpg (102.63 KB,1000x1639,1000:1639,Tre_Grazie_Canova.jpg)

File: c6168e62f1c1bf8⋯.jpg (442.88 KB,1778x2812,889:1406,2018_11_25_13_44_08.jpg)

File: ea92f688b7f989d⋯.jpg (287.93 KB,1078x1080,539:540,ixSFdX3JOgI.jpg)

Anyone got that pic of a girl at a museum or gallery admiring the ass of a nude marble statue? Asking for a friend.

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 No.3489

File: 6ec9c44c1add5ab⋯.jpg (36.38 KB,239x317,239:317,art_appreciation.jpg)

>>3486

I have a feeling it was this post >>490 but the file is lost! Best I can do is the thumbnail from an archive.

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 No.3490

File: 1df5806dcf40bb8⋯.jpg (605.64 KB,1600x2415,320:483,1df5806dcf40bb8d999365881f….jpg)

File: 9d04e4feae9124e⋯.jpg (123.83 KB,658x986,329:493,9d04e4feae9124ef32037621fb….jpg)

File: 9078d0036c5d051⋯.jpg (118.93 KB,1000x1333,1000:1333,9078d0036c5d051a69197462a8….jpg)

File: f487c0a43d1bdac⋯.jpg (819.64 KB,1852x1920,463:480,1427692446500_1.jpg)

File: afc04ecd4be8894⋯.jpg (119.55 KB,800x1003,800:1003,1431543600648_0.jpg)

>>3489

Yes! Thank you! Could not find it in my statue folder (pls don’t judge me) or my art folder. Sadly I got no matches on Yandex’ reverse imagesearch either ;_;

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 No.3493

File: 886ab3ef1637b12⋯.png (275.51 KB,640x426,320:213,Ee0r7OYXkAE94yq.png)

>>3490

>pls don’t judge me

No judgement here. I love the fabric ones. Just fantastic.

>Sadly I got no matches on Yandex’ reverse imagesearch either ;_;

Yeah it's weird. Nothing on Tineye,or google reverse image search.

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 No.3497

File: 4dbfd6b59d90b92⋯.jpg (1012.89 KB,909x1024,909:1024,4dbfd6b59d90b929bc796e9f09….jpg)

File: 548550f150d6612⋯.jpg (42.59 KB,682x1024,341:512,1440804502776_0.jpg)

File: bffb1e3b4dd2997⋯.jpg (173.35 KB,644x553,92:79,1431543600649_2.jpg)

>>3493

Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well. IMHO statues are peak art. Imagine the skill needed to transform a block of marble into a fully 3D figure, with hair and fabric…

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 No.3498

File: 391c82aeae31b2a⋯.jpg (794.91 KB,1224x1632,3:4,TyFh05M.jpg)

File: eca559d5c9f1423⋯.jpg (465.79 KB,768x1024,3:4,Giambologna_detail_fontain….jpg)

File: a20976fcac926c7⋯.jpg (147.01 KB,640x480,4:3,fountain_of_neptune_nereid.jpg)

A few details from the Fontana di Nettuno in Bologna(!) in Italy; these lewd, lactating nereids remind me of Uxía (Macarena) in Dagon (2001).

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 No.3506

File: ac2918c22304ce0⋯.jpg (148.89 KB,720x960,3:4,art_appreciation.jpg)

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 No.3509

File: 87cf1ca2589cc34⋯.jpg (83.87 KB,1024x566,512:283,85797025.jpg)

File: 68249d4b36863a0⋯.jpg (339.58 KB,2880x2880,1:1,qWsEcF8.jpg)

>>3506

Thank you!

The cherry on top would have been her doing the sign language for lesbian/thinking face maymay 🤔

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 No.3542

File: a8d8059c17ad3d9⋯.jpg (40.57 KB,275x402,275:402,OIP.jpg)

>>1000

>A thread to admire the divine feminine.

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 No.3543

File: a8a8c22cca213b4⋯.jpg (58.88 KB,432x677,432:677,woman_of_willendorf1316985….jpg)

>>1846

>Really makes you think. You don’t suppose they could be trying to compensate for something, do you?

Just my opinion, but it might be that the importance of it to the artist is symbolized by exaggerating its size. Maybe fertility. There are similar things regarding women in ancient art as well. I'm no art history major, though.

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 No.3545

File: 983447e97879bcc⋯.jpg (232.31 KB,736x590,368:295,02_1.jpg)

>>3542

<Kali

I thought she was connected with the current yuga, Kali Yuga, but apparently it is named after a (male) demon, also named Kali.

>>3543

That sounds more likely tbh., and there is often a comedic element to ukiyo-e art, plus it is often really weird from a Western perspective. The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife is overtly sexual, yet exaggerated to the point of comedy at the same time, or maybe that is my view as a Westerner.

Not sure what they are using as a sex toy in this one, but it looks awfully painful having those spikes on it…

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 No.3550

>>3542

Some anon referred to Harris as Kali Ma Harris the other day. Made me kek.

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 No.3560

File: b1921221907bd83⋯.jpg (64.37 KB,800x1075,32:43,Psyche_detail_by_Arno_Brek….jpg)

File: 2d8894d6937f4c9⋯.jpg (217.27 KB,760x1014,380:507,Arno_Breker_07_Psyche.jpg)

File: 4456d3f70e40d6e⋯.jpg (37.45 KB,322x691,322:691,Flora_by_Arno_Breker_1943_.jpg)

File: be07d04bbfb6a22⋯.jpg (67.14 KB,453x604,3:4,odun78f6gV1r850wfo2.jpg)

>>3550

And, rather fittingly, Kamala means “horrible” in Finnish. Tried it with Yandex Translate, and it checks out. Horrible Harris.

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 No.3563

File: f4ff536c89a6e5b⋯.jpeg (2.27 MB,1376x2000,86:125,125180f2_4833_4f5e_9a80_5….Jpeg)

File: 368b9df51ca3853⋯.jpg (204.58 KB,757x1216,757:1216,Lautrec_in_bed_1892.jpg)

File: 7393400241ce70d⋯.jpg (118.66 KB,926x599,926:599,Lautrec_the_kiss_1892.jpg)

File: 5d9d550acd0fe4a⋯.jpg (172.4 KB,992x759,992:759,Lautrec_the_two_girlfriend….jpg)

File: 373ecf0bab579aa⋯.jpg (161.21 KB,776x1040,97:130,Lautrec_woman_with_a_black….jpg)

Found this interesting French artist, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, when I saw he was listed as one of Patrick Nagel’s inspirations; Toulouse-Lautrec advertisement art is undeniably very similar to Nagel’s stylised and ivory-skinned women, along with Japanese woodblock art. Toulouse-Lautrec also made several paintings depicting lesbian relationships.

Patrick Nagel: Minimalist Pop Artist of the Decade or Canny Craftsman of Pervy Mall Art? |: https://archive.vn/F37Hw / https://web.archive.org/web/20130418235456/http://www.80sautopsy.com/2011/08/12/patricknagel/

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