/rwby/ - RWBY

>>34186

>Yet it's almost a dick move for Yang to get the least screen time even though she's had the most development and quality this season despite having none in previous seasons.

They really dropped the ball here. It took maybe two episodes for her to get over her PTSD when it should've been a constant problem for her throughout the season, with her pushing through it in the last few episodes and then going to join RNJR in Mistral.

>>34186

>if the dipshits giving RT money don't say anything about it, RWBY will go off the deep end without Monty.

It already has. This is the moment after you leave the ramp, where you're officially doomed and it's too late to stop anything, but you're still technically gaining altitude.

>>Raven gives Qrow a visit at the hospital to talk about TRIBES

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>>34191

But then we wouldn't get the DEEP INTERNAL STRUGGLE of Oscar, and his entire character arc would be for naught. You're right, that's good.

I'm curious to know how this season has affected RWBY's Japanese viewership. This doesn't feel like something Nipland would like anymore.

>>34206

>>34195

>I'm curious to know how this season has affected RWBY's Japanese viewership. This doesn't feel like something Nipland would like anymore.

Waifu bait aside, I'm shocked Japan liked it.

It's not Japanese, the merchandise was poorly made (those porridge texture figurines), and while the action was good- I think Japan has done some better.

Watching it for free must have pulled more than we realized.

>>34206

>so it's a toss-up if RT decides to ignore any negative fan outcry if they think they'll make shekels off a shitty, low-effort V5.

With other IP- they've at least triedto go bigger and better.

Red Vs Blue got serious, but it was interesting (again, thanks to Monty). The Gauntlet got better the second year they ran it. Immersion is a riot (if you like watching people fuck up and get hurt).

But the actual quality is a toss up. I haven't laughed at the last two seasons of On The Spot. Eleven Little Roosters has clever investigation clues, but the writing just isn't as funny or sharp.

It's like they want to do better, but every time they say "Hey, lets hire some graduates from a local college." Whether that's because they can't afford anyone with actual skill, or they prefer working with liberals fresh young talent is a toss up, but either way- no one working there will be able to use it as a spring-board to better things.

Christ, even the animation crew demanded to work in another 3D animation program to be "industry standard". And they still made something that looks like shit.

For comparison, some schmucks on a microphone and with a pirated video editing & effects software can "Abridge" an anime- and as long as the writing is sharp, the VAs windup dubbing real anime.

And notice how Monty got the job- and not some other sprite-fight people like with early Newgrounds animations or 1 Min Melee?

Have talent & skill to get noticed.

whan tai asked yang where she was going, for some reason it felt like it was a point of no return in some videogame

"who will you go after?"

>mother

>ruby

>hate newspapers

>>34206

I understand what they are trying to do but it is retarded. They want to make a slow build up again like in volumes one and two. But this is retarded at least in the school setting they had an excuse for dumping lore on us all the time. Now they don't and they shouldn't be have a volume 4 which became nothing happened the volume. They should have used the momentum to set up more awesome fights and shit unfortunately miles and Kerry think they are hot shit and tried to do 4 storylines at once. They failed

I understand that sometimes lore dumps might be necessary given we are following a team made up of 2 sheltered gist Weiss and Ruby. One semi sheltered girl yang and a retarded one Blake. Fuck I wish we could get away from the main cast for awhile. It would be interesting to follow a young politician who has to deal with all of this shit. I would find that more fun than seeing the main cast fucking around plus it gives a chance to get introduced to more characters and learn about the world without get required world of remnant lore dumps. I hope this board can stay alive with the next content drought

>>34273

>RWBYNJR finally come together

and that's it

>>34273

Predictions:

>Pacing will still be glacial

>Ruby will have another moment where she feels bad about something and Jaune will give another pointless speech to her to make her feel better

>Blake's plan to take over the WF will just be to take out Adam

>Yang will have gone to help Ruby, but will run into her mom at some point, with nothing coming of it aside from her mom saying something cryptic and leaving

>Weiss will go live with Winter and do nothing else of interest for the entire volume

>There will be no mention of Penny or Neo

>They will have killed the rest of the maidens off-screen to push the relic plot to the forefront

>Oscar will live with Qrow or something, but do nothing else for the rest of the volume

>RNJR will fight Cinder in the finale and win, but somehow this will have been Salem's plan the whole time and it will lead to her getting all the relics

>>34302

I'm predicting that Oscar is going to learn to fight and plug the hole in JNPR once RWBY is reunited. He won't be Ozpin tier, but due to his influence will accelerate up to protagonist level at a precocious pace.

>>34273

Some likely ones:

STORY:

>FREE SPACE: MacGuffin hunt.

>Blake assumes control of BLM The White Fang by killing Adam, and the reformed Antifa White Fang begins to be painted in a positive light. They ultimately don't do that much differently than they were before Blake was in command, they just fight different people. They may assist in some kind of humanitarian aide later on for Good Boy Points.

>Ironwood tries to Make Atlas Great Again via increased defenses and border control. This is evil, obviously.

>Weiss has a speech that is ambiguously about classism.

>Qrow isn't actually the Scarecrow, it's Shade's headmaster.

>Insidious Mustache Wily Whiskers Menacing Muttonchops The Cackling Keratin Zappa Prime manipulates Lionheart, who isn't really evil.

>Lionheart was actually manipulating them.

META:

>The effects and animation continue to get better, but nobody understands the dance.

>RT demonstrates a complete ignorance of history, psychology, martial arts, and war.

>Blake gets an award for being representative of realistic women in media. The irony is lost on everyone involved. /rwby/ reflects on how much it's actually true.

>>34302

>but somehow this will have been Salem's plan the whole time

I'd say there's a good chance the plan is for all the maiden powers get funneled to her eventually anyway.

>>34304

So, JNPR will now be O.J.PN?

>>34305

>I'd say there's a good chance the plan is for all the maiden powers get funneled to her eventually anyway.

I was thinking something closer to her using all four of the maidens to bring about some ancient power that will begin a "Dark Age" for Remnant, but, inevitably, something goes wrong, again, leaving her plans half finished. If you want a full script, just go look up Sonic Unleashed, or any other game/comic/show/movie/anything that has the villian to bring together all of the magical McMuffins before the final third of the story unfolds.

>>33956

Once Qrow kicks the bucket Ironwood is going to be the only one left who has a lick of sense in this shitfest.

>>33967

Ironwood seems to be opposing Mr. Asshat. Wouldn't that make him the good guy?

>>34118

Arcscalibur was a little nifty, if only just to see that Jaunne thought to take advantage of modern innovations while still keeping to the "classics". Still dumb though.

Fuck this was "Padding: The Season".

>>34306

>O.J.PN?

Is that an OJ simpson joke? It is, right?

>>34310

It is, how bad was it?

>>34306

What about ORNJ?

(Orange)

>>34305

>>Qrow isn't actually the Scarecrow, it's Shade's headmaster.

Ruby - Dorthy with her "ruby" slippers. (They were silver in the book, but I don't think he read the book.)

Weiss - The heartless tin woodsman (Ice queen)

Blake - The cowardly lion (More like stupid, whiny bitch lion, amirite?)

Yang - The brainless scarecrow

Or maybe…

Glynda, Ironwood, Lionheart, and Qrow constitute a previous Dorthy group that did the bidding of Oz. Basically, Salem and Ozpin are the Gods from the story and are playing out a repeated cycle of violence against one another, and we repeatedly get this gang of four who go after the wicked witch.

>>34268

REMOVE ALTO

REMOVE WHITE FANG AND OTHER NIGFURS IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS

>>34381

To be fair, Weiss deciding to do her own thing after losing her inheritance makes sense.

But much like accidental (?) SJW Blake, if we had a decent script, and Weiss was shown to be under stress better then it could have worked.

> Having to sing in public again, despite not wanting to. The stress of making sure the show comes together, last minute hiccups, etc.

> Dad being a dick, made worse now she knows what normal people act like. Dad being restrictive.

> Posh people being dicks, made worse now she knows what normal people act like. Similar to what we saw with the flirt and the trophy wife, but not to the degree she lost her temper at.

Show her trying to keep her cool and clearly struggling. To top it off, she'd need one big event to push her over the edge. Like only half the charity money was actually going to people who needed help in Beacon.

I don't mind characters being flawed, and she is a "kid". But within the show's world, she has to be made of sterner stuff- she's hunting monsters that prey on negative emotion. A cool head is kind of needed. She doesn't have to be a master of deception able to shrug off anything, but her temper needs to logically escalate. It didn't.

Cutting out half the stuff that needed to be there skews how the character looks. I don't blame the VA for trying to spin it. No one is going to shit talk the show they work on. But she was horribly prepared, and I'm shocked someone who does VA and podcast work is bad at public speaking- in that she sounds like she's making shit up instead of being natural.

>>34382

I can agree with that statement Anon, after all the last thing anyone wants to do is shit where they eat and end up fucking themselves over.

Also, we're gone way past the point where anything can be considered accidental, it's full on written and acted with purpose where about 90% of them don't see anything wrong with what's going on so far.

>>34381

>>34382

>Do something more important

>Than actually taking over her father's company and trying to change things for the better like she said in the earlier seasons

The Weiss that is trying to keep her shit in order and not go Jesus on the Money Changers; the Weiss that is struggling to hide her own feelings so that she can gain control of the Schnee Dust Company and remake her world through it: that conflicted Weiss is a far deeper and more interesting character than the Ran Off and Joined the Revolution Weiss that we got. They sacrificed her depth (and appeal to braoder political ideologies) for cheap Liberal feels. They are probably going to use her like Blake to excuse, defend, and promote BLM and other violent progressive activism.

She could have achieved change by playing by the rules and inheriting a force of change in the world, but the show is written by spoiled children, and she will achieve change now by running off to join the revolution. Weiss and the writers are Veruca Salts, they "Want It Now". The difference is that there is no Willy Wonka to punish the writers for Mary Sueing her into some progressive fairy tail princess who Achieves It Now.

>>34382

>I'm shocked someone who does VA … work is bad at public speaking

Being an actor isn't contingent upon being a good conversationalist. Furthermore, in VA work, you have your lines right in front of you all the time. VAs need to understand how people speak naturally, having mastery of things like intonation, and knowing how to use their voice to achieve them, but forming thoughts while speaking on the fly is its own, entirely separate skill. Source: I'm a VA who's shit at public speaking. Vid indirectly related, but worth a watch if you care about this kind of thing.

>>34390

Seeing Weiss trying to fix Atlus/Schnee would have been fascinating.

Assuming you don't have it running at the same time as Blake fixing the white fang;

> Whatley takes over and fucks up.

> Weiss takes command through stocks and ownership schenanigans.

> Blake has fixed some of the white-fangs image, and offers advice.

You have the dynamic of Weiss calling on someone she used to hate (and most of Atlus loathes), but is now a friend. And how the political re-branding has similarities and differences to business re-branding. Not to mention the chaos it'd cause if she's seen to be buddies with the head of the White Fang.

Then again being an action show, it'd get stale fast. She is (allegedly) a huntress, not a politician. You'd need to contrive an excuse for a fight every so often (assassins, grimm and rioters) then she goes back to playing house of cards. If there was anyone fit for the role (her sister who's now gone. Klein even) I'd say she'd let someone run it in her stead (knowing they'd do what she'd want) while she jets off to help RWBY.

The show before could only do action well, now we've got the team that- to be fair- is avoiding what they don't know (politics of business) and something that could be detrimental (Weiss plays mind-games, everyone else fights).

But they've done it in exchange for what they think they're good at but suck (action & a "right side of history" black-and-white morality).

>>34393

Speaking of that vid; Notice how when they want to act serious, they try to act like real people?

Then when it's anything else, it's back to cartoon/dub anime voices and inflictions? (compare the seen with Yang and Ruby at the end of Season 3 to Ruby talking to Penny or a comical scene)

This has bugged me for a while; in any anime (assuming it was accurate) would you want it dubbed and sounding like decent IRL acting? Or keep the shackles of the 80s bad dubbing because it "fits"?

What about for Rwby?

>>34407

Didn't Jaune use his semblance while training during the night Ruby watched him?

Also, would Nora and Ren snuggling…sort of count as a kiss?

>>34402

They'll have to deliver the happening EVENTUALLY. The… badly choreographed, overdramatic, poorly animated, laughably written, Montyless happening…

I should have never signed up for this ride.

>>34411

>The… badly choreographed, … poorly animated, … Montyless happening…

Wait a second. Maybe that was the entire point of this season. There are scenes in Volume 2 which seem to only exist to grind up the B-team animators. Given how this season went, maybe that was this entire season's point. This is them trying to git gud and stabilize production with the new Maya workflow that they love so much. They know that they don't have any of the three animators who were worth a damn and will have to grind like fuck if they want to deliver any kind of happening worth viewing. But that means fewer fights and outright copying existing material in the meantime in order to get a grip on their new tools.

>>34414

I can't really tell if a bad volume would have been better than what we watched the past few months. It probably would have been more interesting. I'd like to expect them to have actual shit done next season, better late then never.

>V5 speculation thread

You have the power to make one, predictions for the next cuckening wouldn't hurt.

>>34415

>I can't really tell if a bad volume would have been better than what we watched the past few months

Nigga this was a bad volume.

Boring is bad. Bland is bad.

Anything that wasn't boring was poorly done.

Even if you say boring isn't bad, it doesn't mask what was poorly done.

>>34118

>Preface

It's been two weeks now and I still can't get over just how fucking bad Ren's backstory was handled. The more I think about it, the worse it seems. The entire volume suffered from it in general, but this particular arc was a master work of Tell, Don't Show. We were given nearly an entire episode to focus on a flashback for Ren's backstory, but absolutely none of it was necessary, and I'm going to demonstrate it. It wasn't just redundant information, which we've already covered, the scenes were completely unnecessary from a narrative standpoint.

Speaking of Flash sprite fight animations, watch this video. It's slow to start and autistic as fuck, but you're on /rwby/, so I have full confidence that you can handle it. This post will mainly be about a technique this video uses, and the following post will be about how and why it applies to RWBY. I'm also going to drastically oversimplify what's actually happening in the video, so those familiar with Mega Man's lore, forgive me.

This is a reproduction of the final scenes of Mega Man Zero 3, which is the part of the story that finally addresses the events before the games, and what the protagonist's role in them was. All you need to know for context is that there was a massive war that he and his Stand/Best Friend fought in, and there's a standing question as to why he's where he is right now, despite those events happening, which seemingly contradict it.

>The Technique

The video uses a story-telling technique that isn't present in the original game in order to better convey the emotional state of the characters to the viewer. This is because the creator is aware of the strengths and limitations of his own medium. As the fight goes on, seemingly unrelated speech can be heard in the background, the characters and setting start spontaneously changing appearance, and images start appearing in the background. These are actually hallucinations of the past, and the characters who have a long history together are seeing each other as they appeared when they knew each other best, 100 years ago. This usually happens whenever one of them enters a shaft of light.

When the background images start appearing, (3:38) it's when the antagonist is gaining the upper hand, and they're all freeze frames of the people and events which led to the protagonist's suffering. A new one appears each time hits are landed on him, and when he's trapped in the combo, they start coming so fast that you, in effect, actually get a mini-slideshow of the past.

When he's completely knocked down and out, (3:58) the action doesn't completely stop to have unnecessary conversation. Instead, it uses the opportunity to give backstory and action at the same time. An important conversation from the past between the protagonist and love interest is heard, but rather than cut to show it, it only plays the audio, while in the present, other major characters arrive to fight the antagonist in the hero's stead. You effectively have two scenes happening at once, and the brief lull allows the protagonist to have a major moment of character development without ever actually stopping the action.

Once he gets back up, images start appearing from himself, rather than the enemy. In order, a group shot of the people he's still fighting to protect, his new self-image replacing his own actual appearance, a group shot of the Big Good and the comrades he lost along the way, and finally, his love interest appearing in the trails of his sword as he delivers the final blow. In the final moments before the death blow, he so violently retaliates that he also destroys the images of his past in the collateral, metaphorically putting it behind him.

The characters' reflection on the past is handled within the fight scene itself, and just by knowing the characters, you also know what these characters are thinking all the way through. You don't have to stop and explain it at every turn.

>>34467

Yeah this whole volume had this same problem. This volume was so bland and slow that it felt like this volume didn't need to happen the first place.

They really shouldn't have told us hey there was a 6 to 8 month time skip so Jaune and gang managed to fuck around for more than half a year dipping around. Honestly if they started at the end of volume 4 and continued the 5 we really wouldn't be missing that much

So Ren and Nora had nowhere else to go besides Beacon.

Where the fuck were they during the seasonal change transition? Rooming with Jaune's sisters?

>>34468

>They really shouldn't have told us hey there was a 6 to 8 month time skip

Totally. It left people wondering if things they were viewing happened during that time skip. Did Ozpin really float around for six to eight months before finding a shota suitable for taking over his body? Yep, I guess he did. How long did crazy character run throught Mistral to find RWBY? Not very long, apparently. How long did it take Ruby & co to cross Mistral: I have to guess that they started maybe a week before the first episode, giveing a total travel time of maybe a month to Mistral.

What the fuck was everyone doing for the six months after the fall of Beacon? Apparently, not a goddamn thing.

>>34474

It could have been fascinating to watch. The graduates (through technicallity) trying to re-build and help Beacon, maybe teaming up with older Huntsmen & Huntress who try to hide that even they're in over their heads.

Everyone is paranoid out the ass and chaos reigns, it'd be a harsh test for them all. Not just "can you save it?" but "if this is how they act when times are tough, are they worth saving?"

Blake and Weiss stories can happen, Yang has a goal to recover quickly (aid Beacon) and Ruby helps her home out. Then when Glynda or someone sees she's ready begs her to go to smaller outskirts to help them, as they have no-one. Qrow does his explanation by the fire in Beacon instead, giving Ruby a reason to go to Vale.

But it'd still expose two major problems:

Why isn't Salem moving onto the next phase of her plan?

Why didn't she execute similar attacks in each major city?

"If one tower is silent, all must be silent" is a nice touch- but killing all global, country-wide, and even communication & database access would be horrifying- especially if you think there's always another tower to pick up the slack.

Have White Fang sects in each county run riot- people panic realizing the attack isn't just in Beacon but global, Grimm come. And in the anarchy, get your underling to get Maiden powers or artifacts or whatever. Hell, dividing the maidens powers between 4 people under your thumb is probably safer than shoving it all into one girl, in case she betrays you or dies.

I get not making a villain too smart & resourceful or you can't beat them, but at least explain why you can't.

You explained everything else.

>>34484

>But it'd still expose two major problems:

>Why isn't Salem moving onto the next phase of her plan?

>Why didn't she execute similar attacks in each major city?

Because "organized chaos" takes time to build, and one major event cannot happen without numerous smaller events taking place. Look at it like dominoes.

>>34486

Sure, but what's to stop them setting up the dominoes in each region?

Unless she's planning to snuff them out one by one, so hopes can be pinned on the remaining areas in turn, then dashed. Not to mention the cities becoming desperate with refugees and panic.

But, as far as we know, her other henchmen didn't exist or do anything prior to being introduced. Aside from whatever they're doing to Lionheart.

Rolled 1 + 1 (1d1)

>>32248

>Late Rely but I have to.

>tfw some anon on /co/ outlines a better "show don't tell" plot outline for RWBY than Miles and Kerry and Monty ever could.

The worst part is I think I would actually love to see your version of events. Weiss visits a faunus ghetto, sees actual problems their race has. Blake is a soldier who wants to go home but can't because Adam will kill everyone she reaches out to for help.

I swear to god the alternate name for RWBY could be: missed potential the show.

Makes me think Fanfics are so popular because literally almost anyone else but Miles and Kerry could write this better.

Here's some Duwang

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