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a68475  No.13718828[Last 50 Posts]

Good day to anons reading this,

This thread is going to be an attempt to build the Qmap by building the bridges and making the connections between different issues & threads, as well as finding out the truth about the REAL history of mankind. It’s all about digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs…

Link to:

Bridges & Maps 3: https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/6687429.html

Bridges & Maps 4: https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/9207873.html

Bridges & Maps 5: https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/13198790.html

Archives of :

Bridges & Maps 1: http://archive.is/yzA4B

Bridges & Maps 2: https://archive.is/VbcWi

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a68475  No.13718854

This is the old man,

Bridges & Maps thread 6 is a continuation of the long dig started in Bridges & Maps thread 4. I will pick up where I stopped in thread 5 for old readers. For new readers, I would be asking them to go back to thread 4 and start reading from the very first page or they will be unable to fully grasp what it’s all about since this is a long chain.

I thank everyone for their patience. Hope you will enjoy reading this thread.

Wishing you a good day.

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a68475  No.13718962

File: 705959fc3352606⋯.png (6.35 KB, 267x189, 89:63, Eye_of_Horus.png)

File: e8c1a1ec4612e88⋯.jpg (96.15 KB, 800x716, 200:179, Eye_of_Horus_collection_am….jpg)

(Please read from the start)

Since we are talking about Horus, let’s take a look at the Wadjet for its symbolic importance to the Bloodlines; as a potential origin of the EYE symbol (((they))) are so fond of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus

“The Eye of Horus, also known as wadjet, wedjator udjat is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection, royal power, and good health. The Eye of Horus is similar to the Eye of Ra, which belongs to a different god, Ra, but represents many of the same concepts.”

>> Yes, and this always caused confusing between both eyes. For centuries, loads of scholars and researchers cannot make the difference between the 2, sometimes even I confuse them.

“Funerary amulets were often made in the shape of the Eye of Horus.The symbol "was intended to protect the pharaoh [here] in the afterlife" and to ward off evil. Ancient Egyptian and Middle-Eastern sailors would frequently paint the symbol on the bows of their vessels to ensure safe sea travel.”

>> So it’s a protective symbol….doesn’t this remind us of what we read about the Hamsa?

“Horus

Horus was the ancient Egyptian sky god who was usually depicted as a falcon, most likely a lanner or peregrine falcon. His right eye was associated with the sun god, Ra. The eye symbol represents the marking around the eye of the falcon, including the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. The mirror image, or left eye, sometimes represented the moon and the god Djehuti (Thoth).”

>> Reading about it, how it’s written, it’s making me think that this EYE = Eye of Horus was located on the face and not on the palm of the hand like it’s the case with the Hamsa.

“It was believed by the Greeks and Romans that an evil heart could get to the eye. The thought-to-be-powerful effects of eyes and optics created the myth that the energy-producing power of the eye had the ability to cast evil spells with just a glance. Because the ancients believed the evil eye could be counteracted with a 'good eye', myths about Horus arose.”

>> It seems we have a “good” Eye and we have a “bad” Eye. If this is some sort of weapon = “energy-producing power of the eye” does this mean it was not only the bad warriors using the Eye, but also the good ones? But it was placed in a different location on the armor.

“In one myth, when Set and Horus were fighting for the throne after Osiris's death, Set gouged out Horus's left eye. The majority of the eye was restored by either Hathor or Thoth. When Horus's eye was recovered, he offered it to his father, Osiris, in hopes of restoring his life. Hence, the eye of Horus was often used to symbolise sacrifice, healing, restoration, and protection.”

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a68475  No.13718997

File: 2682702b1b77f2a⋯.jpg (126.81 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Wedjat_Udjat_Eye_of_Horus_….jpg)

>>13718962

(Please read from the start)

“As hieroglyph and symbol

There are seven different hieroglyphs used to represent the eye, most commonly "ir.t" in Egyptian, which also has the meaning "to make or do" or "one who does". In Egyptian myth the eye was not the passive organ of sight but more an agent of action, protection or wrath. The Eye of Horus was represented as a hieroglyph, designated D10 in Gardiner's sign list. It is represented in the Unicode character block for Egyptian hieroglyphs as U+13080.”

>> I’m not surprised to discover there are 7 DIFFERENT hieroglyphs to represent the EYE. Remember the Sebetti and what I said about them on page 789? I keep on wondering about the Sebetti. The way they are mentioned: were they horrible, bad or terrible persons? Were they Evil? In the Wikipedia page they always make it sound like the Sebetti are terrifying powerful beings that aren’t that “good” to humans, as if humans must fear them. I wonder if this is true or if this is a biased point of view from one specific side; regardless if it’s the good guys or the bad guys. I rather wait to gather more information, details about them before deciding if they are this or that….but for now, I don’t see them as being part of the bad guys.

I’m also wondering since we have 7 different persons (=the Sebetti), does this mean we’ve got 7 different types of armors with each one having its unique specific traits/functions.

There are 2 artifacts that I want to talk about a bit:

The First one is of a Wedjat pendant made of gold and faience that is in display in the Cairo Museum. It was found in the tomb of Tutankhamun. The central piece is the Eye or Horus or the Wedjat and it’s flanked by Uraeus on one side (=symbol of the goddess Wedjat = Lower Egypt) and the vulture on the thought (thought to be the goddess Nekhbet = Upper Egypt) on the other side. It is common knowledge among Egyptologists and even among researchers that together they represent the unification of Ancient Egypt and they protect the Pharaoh, that’s why they are represented on his crown.

But after discovering the deep meaning behind the Birds of Prey symbolism and the Horned Serpent symbolism, I think this has a deeper layer of meaning that the traditional obvious one. I think apart the obvious, standard meaning of them representing Upper and Lower Egypt, they also represent the ThunderBirds and Horned Serpent warriors whom survived the cataclysm and fought for the dominance of Ancient Egypt. This is why I will be asking anons not to rush and decide that ALL Ancient Egyptian rulers and aspects of its culture are bad or established by the Ancient Bloodlines. I think it’s a long process, but….each Pharaoh must be studied independently and separately at first, then as a second step, we should study each dynasty on it’s own to see their inclinations, either towards the ThunderBirds or their inclination towards the Horned Serpent.

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a2c042  No.13726652

File: 3fb93b46d4c3768⋯.jpg (93.18 KB, 800x1026, 400:513, Illustration_from_Pantheon….jpg)

File: 6ccb96c4bed9c8b⋯.jpg (155.51 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, 2imagesofWadjetappearonthi….jpg)

>>13718997

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadjet

“Wadjet (/ˈwædʒət/; Ancient Egyptian: wꜢḏyt "Green One"), known to the Greek world as Uto (/ˈjuːtoʊ/; Koinē Greek: Οὐτώ) or Buto (/ˈbjuːtoʊ/; Βουτώ) among other renderings including Wedjat, Uadjet, and Udjo, was originally the ancient local goddess of the city of Dep. It became part of the city that the Egyptians named Per-Wadjet ("House of Wadjet") and the Greeks called Buto (now Desouk), which was an important site in prehistoric Egypt and the cultural developments of the Paleolithic. There was also a Per-Wadjet in Upper Egypt.

Wadjet was said to be the matron and protector of Lower Egypt, and upon unification with Upper Egypt, the joint protector and patron of all of Egypt. The image of Wadjet with the sun disk is called the uraeus, and it was the emblem on the crown of the rulers of Lower Egypt. She was also the protector of kings and of women in childbirth. Wadjet was said to be the nurse of the infant god Horus. With the help of his mother Isis, they protected Horus from his treacherous uncle, Set, when they took refuge in the swamps of the Nile Delta.”

>> I thought Nephthys nursed baby Horus. Is Nephthys and Wadjet one and the same? Is Wadjet a person or an object, like a weapon? Were there 2 nurses for Horus? Or does it mean the Wedjat is an object that protected baby Horus = watched over him like a nurse does? My thoughts are going in all directions as anons can see. One thing is for sure about the Wadjet: it’s been there since before the pre-dynastic times.

“Wadjet was closely associated in ancient Egyptian religion with the Eye of Ra, a powerful protective deity. The hieroglyph for her eye is shown below; sometimes two are shown in the sky of religious images. Per-Wadjet also contained a sanctuary of Horus, the child of the sun deity who would be interpreted to represent the pharaoh. Much later, Wadjet became associated with Isis as well as with many other deities.

In the relief shown to the right, which is on the wall of the Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut at Luxor, there are two images of Wadjet: one of her as the uraeus with her head through an ankh and another where she precedes a Horus hawk wearing the pschent, representing the pharaoh whom she protects.

Appearance

As the patron goddess, she was associated with the land and depicted as a snake-headed woman or a snake—usually an Egyptian cobra, a venomous snake common to the region; sometimes she was depicted as a woman with two snake heads and, at other times, a snake with a woman's head. Her oracle was in the renowned temple in Per-Wadjet that was dedicated to her worship and gave the city its name. This oracle may have been the source for the oracular tradition that spread to Greece from Egypt.”

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a2c042  No.13726676

File: 46b58d8117dfda5⋯.jpg (60.04 KB, 497x810, 497:810, bb3f8f1f37d71ae8e1d5c3b6be….jpg)

File: d4b2db4d002e63b⋯.jpg (44.19 KB, 540x960, 9:16, Strange_beam_of_light_comi….jpg)

>>13726652

(Please read from the start)

>> This is rather interesting. So the power to SEE is thought to have started in Ancient Egypt and it was with a woman whom’s symbol was a snake.

“The Egyptian word wꜣḏ signifies blue and green. It is also the name for the well-known "Eye of the Moon" Indeed, in later times, she was often depicted simply as a woman with a snake's head, or as a woman wearing the uraeus. The uraeus originally had been her body alone, which wrapped around or was coiled upon the head of the pharaoh or another deity.

Wadjet was depicted as a cobra. As patron and protector, later Wadjet often was shown coiled upon the head of Ra; in order to act as his protection, this image of her became the uraeus symbol used on the royal crowns as well.”

>> I feel this has a deeper meaning that then obvious. I don’t understand it fully though, as in I don’t understand the role of the Moon, but mostly its importance in all of this. But in the same time, I see a similar idea between the poisonous attributes of Wedjat and those of Sisiutl and the Native American Horned Serpent. The threads connecting everything are there but they are not that strong.

“Another early depiction of Wadjet is as a cobra entwined around a papyrus stem, beginning in the Predynastic era (prior to 3100 B.C.) and it is thought to be the first image that shows a snake entwined around a staff symbol. This is a sacred image that appeared repeatedly in the later images and myths of cultures surrounding the Mediterranean Sea, called the caduceus, which may have had separate origins.

Her image also rears up from the staff of the "flagpoles" that are used to indicate deities, as seen in the hieroglyph for "uraeus" and for "goddess" in other places.”

>> It’s well explained. So here is the real question: which is older? = the Ancient Egypt Serpent circling a staff or Gudea’s libation vase? Where did this symbol appear first? In Mesopotamia first or in Ancient Egypt first? Or maybe there is a third option of it having appeared simultaneously in both places approximately at the same time = around the same time window. I’ve talked about the rosette being a LIGHT Beam (starting page 814) and I believe it’s the same Beam of Light we see on Gudea’s Libation vase (starting page 698). I think this is what transformed, mutated, shifted in later generations to become the Caduceus and yes anons, this is a portal. The snakes/serpents we see swirl around the Light Beam are none other than Wadjet = electrical current. And those are the RINGS we see in that teleportationn device in the movie Stargate.

Also, the color BLUE is highly important. I have a question: how did they find out it was a BLUE colored EYE? It took me a long time to find out the answer of this riddle, but I finally did. We will be talking about this later on. For now, just think about it = why a BLUE eye of all the eye colors that are out there? Let me give you a hint by asking you to remember that the ThunderBird armors could fly.

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a2c042  No.13726685

File: c51d0865e8eae71⋯.jpg (66.4 KB, 540x320, 27:16, uraeustut2.jpg)

>>13726676

(Please read from the start)

“Etymology

The name Wadjet is derived from the term for the symbol of her domain, Lower Egypt, the papyrus. Its hieroglyphs differ from those of the Green Crown or Deshret of Lower Egypt only by the determinative, which in the case of the crown was a picture of the Green Crown and, in the case of the goddess, a rearing cobra.

Protector of country, pharaohs, and other deities

Eventually, Wadjet was claimed as the patron goddess and protector of the whole of Lower Egypt and became associated with Nekhbet, depicted as a white vulture, who held unified Egypt. After the unification the image of Nekhbet joined Wadjet on the crown, thereafter shown as part of the uraeus.

Wadjet was associated with the Nile Delta region and was more associated with the world of the living. She was closely linked to pharaohs as a protective deity. She was associated, along with other goddesses, as the "eye of Ra". Wadjet was often depicted as an erect cobra with its hood extended as though she were ready to strike. At times she was depicted wearing the Red Crown of Lower Egypt. Wadjet was depicted many times in her cobra form alongside her Upper Egyptian counterpart Nekhbet, in her vulture form wearing the Red Crown on wall paintings or on the pharaoh's headdress.

Wadjet, as the goddess of Lower Egypt, had a large temple at the ancient Imet (now Tell Nebesha) in the Nile Delta. She was worshipped in the area as the "Lady of Imet". Later she was joined by Min and Horus to form a triad of deities.

Other uses

The Nazit Mons, a mountain on Venus, is named for Nazit, an "Egyptian winged serpent goddess". According to Elizabeth Goldsmith, the Greek name for Nazit was Buto.”

>> We have a winged serpent just like it was the case with the Native American Horned Serpent and Sisiutl.

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a2c042  No.13728147

File: 302c1b7b1b2b39e⋯.jpg (120.35 KB, 676x900, 169:225, 1_egypt_nekhbet_1823_grang….jpg)

File: 52e279c2e5cbfda⋯.jpg (503.33 KB, 1274x1920, 637:960, Nekhbet.jpg)

File: dc65045439d4834⋯.jpg (290.58 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Nekhbet_Vulture_goddess.jpg)

>>13726685

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekhbet

“Nekhbet (/ˈnɛkˌbɛt/; also spelt Nekhebit) was an early predynastic local goddess in Egyptian mythology, who was the patron of the city of Nekheb (her name meaning of Nekheb). Ultimately, she became the patron of Upper Egypt and one of the two patron deities for all of Ancient Egypt when it was unified.

Mythology

One of Egypt's earliest temples was the shrine of Nekhbet at Nekheb (also referred to as El Kab). It was the companion city to Nekhen, the religious and political capital of Upper Egypt at the end of the Predynastic period (c. 3200–3100 BC) and probably, also during the Early Dynastic Period (c. 3100–2686 BC). The original settlement on the Nekhen site dates from Naqada I or the late Badarian cultures. At its height, from about 3400 BC, Nekhen had at least 5,000 and possibly as many as 10,000 inhabitants.

Nekhbet was the tutelary deity of Upper Egypt. Nekhbet and her Lower Egyptian counterpart Wadjet often appeared together as the "Two Ladies". One of the titles of each ruler was the Nebty name, which began with the hieroglyphs for [s/he] of the Two Ladies…

In art, Nekhbet was depicted as a vulture. Alan Gardiner identified the species that was used in divine iconography as a griffon vulture. Arielle P. Kozloff, however, argues that the vultures in New Kingdom art, with their blue-tipped beaks and loose skin, better resemble the lappet-faced vulture.

In New Kingdom times, the vulture appeared alongside the uraeus on the headdresses with which kings were buried. The uraeus and vulture are traditionally interpreted as Wadjet and Nekhbet, but Edna R. Russmann has suggested that in this context they represent Isis and Nephthys, two major funerary goddesses, instead.

Nekhbet usually was depicted hovering, with her wings spread above the royal image, clutching a shen symbol (representing eternal encircling protection), frequently in her claws.”

>> No, I don’t think it represents Isis and Nephthys, but the Uraeus represents the ThunderBirds and the Sharur electrical Weapon they usually use = remember the Wedjat is electricity depicted as a snake/serpent form.

- Pahe 898 –

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57e08c  No.13733867

File: 090cf0f63801650⋯.jpg (81.68 KB, 700x394, 350:197, Ancient_Egyptian_Uraeus.jpg)

>>13728147

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uraeus

“The Uraeus (/jʊəˈriːəs/; plural Uraei or Uraeuses; from the Greek οὐραῖος, ouraîos, "on its tail"; from Egyptian jꜥrt (iaret), "rearing cobra") is the stylized, upright form of an Egyptian cobra, used as a symbol of sovereignty, royalty, deity and divine authority in ancient Egypt.

>> What comes next in this Wikipedia page is a repeat of what I said earlier about the Uraeus being the combination of Wedjat and Nekhbet and it’s on the Pharaoh’s crown etc. So I’m not going to put it again, if anons are interested, they can read them in the link. I’m skipping them and only putting the notable parts.

“Symbolism

[…]

Later, the pharaohs were seen as a manifestation of the sun god Ra, and so it also was believed that the Uraeus protected them by spitting fire on their enemies from the fiery eye of the goddess. In some mythological works, the eyes of Ra are said to be uraei. Wadjets existed long before the rise of this cult when they originated as the eye of Wadjet as a cobra. Wadjets are also the name of the symbols called the Eye of the Moon, Eye of Hathor, the Eye of Horus, and the Eye of Ra—depending upon the dates of the references to the symbols.”

>> This description of the Wadjet reminds me of the snake like iconography of lightning. It seems what came out from these weapons was not a linear beam but more like how electricity/lightning comes out, as seen in the picture I’ve attached to page 659. Anons shouldn’t forget that both ThunderBirds and the Horned Serpent warriors held that type of weapon. Also, I want to ask anons to go back to the iconography I’ve put for the deities in Mesopotamia and Mesoamerica and observe how their staffs = weapons are depicted like snakes. In this paragraph, they tell us many Ancient Egyptian deities hand an EYE. Some of us assumed it’s one Eye “borrowed” by many deities; but what if each deity had its own Eye, as in its own weapon? It’s an idea worth contemplating.

“As the Uraeus was seen as a royal symbol, the deities Horus and Set were also depicted wearing the symbol on their crowns. In early ancient Egyptian mythology, Horus would have been the name given to any king as part of the many titles taken, being identified as the son of the goddess Isis. According to the later mythology of Re, the first Uraeus was said to have been created by the goddess Isis, who formed it from the dust of the earth and the spittle of the then-current sun deity. In this version of the mythology, the Uraeus was the instrument with which Isis gained the throne of Egypt for Osiris. Isis is associated with and may be considered an aspect of Wadjet.”

>> I guess this paragraph sums up everything I’ve been saying about the Wadjet and the warriors. The Wadjet was used by both sides and we have many deities using it and Isis was some type of leader of the ThunderBirds, a warrior lady.

“Golden Uraeus of Senusret II

[…]

As a hieroglyph

[…]”

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133a8a  No.13734015

File: 1ed0a96dd804377⋯.jpg (118.69 KB, 641x556, 641:556, Ramses_III_Uraeus_Blue_Cro….jpg)

File: 79bbcc127c3bc6e⋯.jpg (6.37 MB, 3840x2667, 1280:889, superman_eye_laser.jpg)

File: e47191453949b13⋯.png (3.24 MB, 1920x1200, 8:5, X_Men_Origins_Cyclops.png)

File: d60397d5bd04d4f⋯.jpg (85.16 KB, 560x315, 16:9, Havok_Chest_Beam.jpg)

>>13733867

(Please read from the start)

“The Blue Crown

Before the New Kingdom Period, the body of the Uraeus coiled in around in circles behind its raised head on the Blue Crown. The king is most often depicted wearing the Blue Crown in combat and the aftermath of combat scenes. Additionally, the smaller scale king usually wore the Blue Crown when depicted in a protective group of deities. Colossal statues of the king wearing a Blue Crown are extremely rare; the typical royal statue also does not feature a Blue Crown. Also, depictions of the Blue Crown with its Uraeus does not decorate royal tombs until late in the Ramesside Period. The deity-on-earth king was thought to require extra protection in his mortal form, emphasizing the protective qualities of the Uraeus. The Uraeus was usually crafted from precious metals, most commonly gold and less frequently silver, and adorned with gemstones.”

>> It doesn’t surprise me one bit to read about the protective attributes of the Uraeus because originally it was some sort of protective weapon that emits electricity = making it look like serpents.

As for the gemstones, it’s an item of luxury, no doubt about it, but it also reminds me of what was said about the Horned Serpent having a gem stone on his forehead. In page 750, it was said that the Horned Serpent was related to Storms, Lightning, Thunder, disease and Rainbows = this fits perfectly with then having supersonic flying armors and electricity emitting weapons, just like the ones the ThunderBirds have. Their scales had power of divination maybe connected to the poison I’m suspecting, thus making it some type of hallucinogenic type of poison if taken in small quantities, just like the shells we’ve seen in the Andean region – if taken in small quantities they are not poisons, but considered as hallucinogenic. Most importantly description item from page 750 was “a bright blazing crest like a diamond on its forehead” = so anons, what is this gem/diamond/crystal in your opinion? What can be bright, sparkles and is blazing?

I see this as an EYE on the forehead of that armor. I’m already suspecting that we have many types of armors with blasters placed on different parts of the body for each. For now, I have 3 locations of the blasters:

1 – Palm of hand = Hamsa.

2 – Forehead = Horned Serpent Gem on forehead.

3 – Where the human eyes are.

Let me explain this last one: When reading about the Wedjat and how the ThunderBirds might had blasters located on the level of the eyes, I want to remind anons of what I said in page 804 when talking about Wonder Woman and how her helmet in the movie is wrong. If the ThunderBirds are going to fly at supersonic level, then they need something to shield their face from the wind blow (at least) just like what Iron Man wears as a helmet. So this helmet emits blasts = rays, beams from the same type as the Hamsa does. And I believe this is what the ThunderBirds’ helmet was equipped with.

This shouldn’t surprise anons at all. Why? Because we do have this idea in Hollywood and the comic books. We have Superman with this famous eye beam that can melt metal. We have Cyclops from X-Men and lastly Havoc with the Beam coming out of his chest. So we see anons, we are not just dealing with blasters on the Eye level, but in various places on the body. And these EYES = blasters were used by both and bad and the good warriors just like the staff-weapon. In page 796, we see the Amazons are wearing a helmet like thing where a STAR with rays is depicted. Could this be a symbolic representation of the Beam on the forehead = the Eye = the blaster on the forehead? It’s possible.

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375cdd  No.13735743

This is the old man,

Dear readers, I've noticed for the last few days that B&M 6 is sliding down the catalogue despite new pages posted in it. There is no apparent reason why this is happening. I informed a BV of the situation hoping he/she will look into this. I don't know why this is happening and/or if it will be fixed. I'm not going to post for a few days. It's better to be patient and see what's going on. If anyone reading understands what's going on or can help that would be great.

Sorry about that anons. Have a nice day.

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100964  No.13743793

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1db12d  No.13750798

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c8a84a  No.13750944

File: 90b7e38b31efc5a⋯.jpg (322.14 KB, 1024x680, 128:85, HagiaSophia_Dome_Seraphim_….jpg)

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>>13734015

(Please read from the start)

“Seraphim

The angelic seraphim, found in the Hebrew Bible and later Jewish, Christian, and Islamic traditions, are frequently associated with serpents and are thought to have derived from the concept of uraeus. Multiple-winged uraei amulets are well represented in Palestine.

>> What are the chances that the seraphim angels are warriors? Are they good or bad?

Let’s check them out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraph

“A seraph (/ˈsɛrəf/, "the burning one"; /ˈsɛrəfɪm/, in the King James Version also seraphims (plural); Hebrew: שָׂרָף (śārāf [saːraːf]), plural שְׂרָפִים (śərāfîm [səraːfim]); Latin: seraphim, plural seraphin (also seraphus (-i, m.)); Greek: σεραφείμ (serapheím); Arabic: (musharifin) is a type of celestial or heavenly being originating in Ancient Judaism. The term plays a role in subsequent Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The singular "seraph" is a back-formation from the Hebrew plural-form 'seraphim', whereas in Hebrew the singular is 'saraph'.”

>> After discussing the meaning of the word with some Arab researchers back in the days I was surprised when they gave me the translation of the word Seraphim in Arabic. According to my notes from back then, it actually meant the supervisors/the watchers; the one whom oversee. Doesn’t it that sound like a guardian or a protector to anons? And it’s a perfect fit for what was written about the ThunderBirds in page 739 as in them not just protecting humans from the Evil Horned Serpent, but also restoring Law and Order among Humans whenever it was broken. Sounds like a double function of a military warrior and a policeman held by the ThunderBirds.

It’s also notable how it is said to have been in Judaism first and passed to Christianity and Islam.

“Tradition places seraphim in the highest rank in Christian angelology and in the fifth rank of ten in the Jewish angelic hierarchy. A seminal passage in the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 6:1–8) used the term to describe six-winged beings that fly around the Throne of God crying "holy, holy, holy". This throne scene, with its triple invocation of holiness, profoundly influenced subsequent theology, literature and art. Its influence is frequently seen in works depicting angels, heaven and apotheosis. Seraphim are mentioned as celestial beings in an influential Hellenistic work, the Book of Enoch, and the Book of Revelation.”

>> So in both Judaism and Christianity there are different ranks within the Seraphs. I wonder if this is shown by the number of their wings? If anons look closely to ALL, I mean ALL, the iconography + artifacts I’ve provided in this thread, we can see that we can put the warriors in 3 different categories depending on the number of wings they’ve got (regardless if they are evil or good). The number of wings comes in 1 pair of wings, 2 pair of wings or 3 pair of wings. Most as seen in this thread have one pair of wing.

Also the prophet Isaiah saying that the Seraphim fly around the Throne of God, it gives me the impression as if they are the guardians of that Throne. As for the last 3 literature “pieces” (dunno what I should call them) as in the Hellenistic writing, Book of Enoch and the Book of Revelation….All 3 were written or heavily influenced by the Bloodlines. It’s the reason why I don’t touch the Book of Enoch….that’s (((their))) beloved book. Those whom follow what is written in that book and consider it to be true….you are following (((them))) and (((their))) believes. Be careful, research, research well, hard and deep whom wrote that. You will understand and see the truth about that book once you peel away the outter layers of lies and deceit woven with it.

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c8a84a  No.13750984

File: 52750fef5ae9942⋯.jpg (89.65 KB, 500x719, 500:719, Syrian_Slab_with_Six_Winge….jpg)

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>>13750944

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“Origins and development

There is emerging consensus that the motifs used to display seraphs in Hyksos-era Canaan had their original sources in Egyptian uraeus iconography.”

>>This sentence is incredibly misleading. It’s a pure lie and the way it was worded is nothing but pure fabrication. This sentence suggest that the winged entities showed up first in Ancient Egypt then passed onto Mesopotamia around the time of the Hyksos. By doing so they ignored the very old iconography of winged beings in Mesopotamia (like the Anunnaki reliefs) and in Anatolia/Caucasian region, that are as old as early Egyptian Winged iconography; some even older, surely as old as pre-dynastic times. And by doing so, they also trashed and ignored the appearance of this same iconography of winged beings worldwide = without any prior contact between the cultures and civilizations (Andean region, Mesoamerica, Native American etc.). I guess it’s hard to explain how all over the world, in different places and cultures with no prior contact, we have images/ iconography of winged beings. Sure the details are different from one place to another, but the core idea behind it all is the same = we have winged beings with super human abilities and most if not all are warrior type like beings. So you see anons, with this one sentence, (((they))) are trying to redirect your thoughts and keep you away from seeking the truth behind those winged beings.

“The word saraph/seraphim appears four times in the Book of Isaiah (6:2–6, 14:29, 30:6). In Isaiah 6:2–6 the term is used to describe a type of celestial being or angel. The other uses of the word refer to serpents.”

>> Here it’s tricky anons, I’m a bit stuck/undecided on wich way to lean between 2 options: either it’s referring to the Evil winged warriors I’m calling Horned Serpents; or it’s pointing to the snake resemblance of the lightning that comes out of the staff-weapon = I’m calling Sharur – held by both the good and the bad warriors. As I’m writing this, I’m still stuck on which it is. I need more time and more clues to see through this one.

“The vision in Isaiah Chapter 6 of seraphim in an idealized version of Solomon's Temple represents the sole instance in the Hebrew Bible of this word being used to describe celestial beings."… I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly." (Isaiah 6:1–3) And one cried to another, "Holy, holy, holy, is YHWH of hosts: the whole earth is full of His glory." (verses 2–3) One seraph carries out an act of ritual purification for the prophet by touching his lips with a live coal from the altar (verses 6–7) "And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged."

>> No comments from my part.

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c8a84a  No.13751008

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>>13750984

(Please read from the start)

“The text describes the "seraphim" as winged celestial beings with a fiery passion for doing God's good work. Notwithstanding the wording of the text itself, at least one Hebrew scholar claims that in the Hebrew Bible the seraphim do not have the status of angels, and that it is only in later sources (like De Coelesti Hierarchia or Summa Theologiae) that they are considered to be a division of the divine messengers,”

>> Later sources….it changed in later sources, as in it was NOT originally this way and someone interfered to alter it. Unfortunately loads of researchers, anons and normal people take the Old Testament word to word nowadays and this is leading them on the wrong path, away from the truth and yes….away from our Heavenly Father. The Bible is a HEAVILY EDITED BOOK, be careful of how you use it.

“Seraphim appear in the 2nd-century BC Book of Enoch,where they are mentioned, in conjunction with cherubim, as the heavenly creatures standing nearest to the throne of God. In non-biblical sources they are sometimes called the Akyəst (Ge'ez: አክይስት "serpents", "dragons"; an alternate term for Hell).”

>> In this paragraph they are hinting that in Ethiopian tradition the seraphim are considered as the servants of the Evil One. This is interesting. I wonder which side the seraphim were on or if they were divided….as in some served good while others served evil.

“In the Second Book of Enoch, two classes of celestial beings are mentioned alongside the seraphim and cherubim, known as the phoenixes and the chalkydri (Ancient Greek: χαλκύδραι khalkýdrai, compound of χαλκός khalkós "brass, copper" + ὕδρα hýdra "hydra", "water-serpent"—lit. "brazen hydras", "copper serpents"). Both are described as "flying elements of the sun" that reside in either the 4th or 6th heaven, who have twelve wings and burst into song at sunrise.

In the Book of Revelation (4:4–8), the beasts are described as being forever in God's presence and praising him: "[A]nd they rest not day and night, saying, 'Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come." This account differs slightly from the account of Isaiah, stating in the eighth verse, "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within". They appear also in the Gnostic text, On the Origin of the World.”

>> I must admit, these 2 paragraphs are pointing us to the attachment the Bloodlines (or if you want to call them the Kabbalah) have for the seraphim, just like (((they))) had an attachment for the Hamsa. I wonder if this is the reason why the Ethiopian tradition sees them as dragons or hellish? I’m still unsure if we are dealing with the evil warriors here or the good ones.

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c8a84a  No.13751192

File: 036a94b26a3feef⋯.jpg (329.45 KB, 518x919, 518:919, 3489080_tony_3.jpg)

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>>13751008

(Please read from the start)

The reason why I’m having so much trouble with deciding on which side to lean is actually Nergal and what he did to Marduk in page 788 = it was Infiltration instead of Invasion. Nergal was a spy, he infiltrated the ranks of the good deity protecting the city-state of Babylon and with tricks and deceit drove the deity away from the city.

So if it was done once back then with Nergal….and nowadays Bloodlines use the same tactic does this mean the ThunderBirds were infiltrated and there were spies and evil ones working in secret amongst their ranks? It’s starting to look that way to me. Also…what do we know about Satan and his group? Weren’t they angels and they rebelled against God?

So anons, how should I understand this? I’m a bit confused as to how I should interpret this. Are all the seraphim Horned Serpent warriors = Evil warriors? Is this name the Bloodlines use to call them = seraphim? Were they the group (or clan or faction) that made an attempt to seize the throne and killed the rightful king? Are the seraphim the Horned Serpent warriors whom followed their leader = the Great Evil One? Or were they normal warriors with a specific rank, and they were infiltrated by spies and a chunk of them rebelled = afterwards we had 2 groups of seraphim: evil ones and good ones. How should I understand this? My thoughts are going in all directions as the reader can see.

Even the wings of the seraphim had EYES all over them. Well, I don’t know about you anons, but this also confirms what I was suspecting about the winged armors having blasters on different locations on the body and not just on the palm of the hands- just like Iron man in the comics. Also, look at the GEM on the forehead of the seraphim angel I’ve attached the picture of with this page. Doesn’t this remind us of what we read about the Horned Serpent having a diamond on his forehead? Is this another blaster on the forehead?

“In Judaism

The 12th-century scholar Maimonides placed the seraphim in the fifth of ten ranks of angels in his exposition of the Jewish angelic hierarchy. In Kabbalah, the seraphim are the higher angels of the World of Beriah ("Creation", first created realm, divine understanding),[ whose understanding of their distance from the absolute divinity of Atziluth causes their continual "burning up" in self-nullification. Through this they ascend to God, and return to their place. Below them in the World of Yetzirah ("Formation", archetypal creation, divine emotions) are the Hayot angels of Ezekiel's vision, who serve God with self-aware instinctive emotions ("face of a lion, ox, eagle"). Seraphim are part of the angelarchy of modern Orthodox Judaism. Isaiah's vision is repeated several times in daily Jewish services, including at Kedushah prayer as part of the repetition of the Amidah, and in several other prayers as well. Conservative Judaism retains the traditional doctrines regarding angels and includes references to them in the liturgy, although a literal belief in angels is by no means universal among adherents. Adherents of Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism generally take images of angels as symbolic.

An ancient Judean seal from the 8th century BCE depicts them as flying asps, yet having human characteristics, as encountered by Isaiah in his commissioning as a prophet.”

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3ae9fc  No.13751263

>>13751192

(Please read from the start)

>> Did anyone notice how “recent” the interpretations (= all of them) are about the Seraphim in Judaism? What happened to the older “knowledge” and “tradition” about them? For all of these centuries what happened to the earliest accounts about the Seraphim? Why are the Bloodlines showing an attachment towards the Seraphim? Why are (((they))) fond of them? Is it just me or it’s obvious to everyone reading that the Seraphim are of high importance to the Bloodlines? Why does it give me the impression (((they))) value the seraphim the same way the value the Hamsa? Both have the same smell for me.

“In Christianity

Medieval Christian theology places seraphim in the highest choir of the angelic hierarchy. They are the caretakers of God's throne, continuously singing "holy, holy, holy". Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite in his Celestial Hierarchy (vii), drew upon the Book of Isaiah in fixing the fiery nature of seraphim in the medieval imagination. Seraphim in his view helped the Deity maintain perfect order and are not limited to chanting the trisagion. Taking his cue as well from writings in the Rabbinic tradition, the author gave an etymology for the Seraphim as "those who kindle or make hot".”

>> I have 2 problems with what is said here: 1 - Many centuries passed since the birth of Christianity till the Medieval Times. 2 – It’s based on the writing of the Rabbinic tradition, as in some Rabbis gather, discuss things, come to their own conclusions and it’s passed down to later generation; then the Church comes and picks up what the Rabbi’s conclusion is. This was never an original part of Christianity. Yes ANGELS in general do exist from the get go in Christianity, but not about the Seraphim and mostly not the DETAILS and information about them. Only God knows if the information we’ve got nowadays about them (transmitted to us) is authentic or not. I wonder how many times it was manipulated and the texts changed. Mostly that this was introduced into Christianity centuries later via Judaism; doesn’t this sound like INFILTRATION? I’m starting to dislike what I’m reading about them.

“The name seraphim clearly indicates their ceaseless and eternal revolution about Divine Principles, their heat and keenness, the exuberance of their intense, perpetual, tireless activity, and their elevative and energetic assimilation of those below, kindling them and firing them to their own heat, and wholly purifying them by a burning and all-consuming flame; and by the unhidden, unquenchable, changeless, radiant and enlightening power, dispelling and destroying the shadows of darkness.

Origen wrote in On First Principles that the Seraphim, in the Book of Isaiah, are the physical representation of the Christ and the Holy Spirit. His rationale comes from the idea that nothing "can wholly know the beginnings of all things and the ends of the universe" aside from God. Origen concludes this section in writing about the Seraphim as beings that have the knowledge of God revealed to them which elevates the role of the Seraphim to divine levels:”

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3ae9fc  No.13751286

>>13751263

(Please read from the start)

“Nevertheless whatever it is that these powers may have learned through the revelation of the Son of God and of the Holy Spirit-and they will certainly be able to acquire a great deal of knowledge, and the higher ones much more than the lower-still it is impossible for them to comprehend everything; for it is written, 'The more part of God's works are secret.

This quote suggests that Origen believed the Seraphim are revealed this knowledge because of their anointed status as Son of God and the Holy Spirit. He was later criticized for making such claims and labeled a heretic by the Christian church. However, his theory about the Seraphim, as referred to in Isaiah, would be reflected in other early Christian literature, as well as early Christian belief through the second century.”

>> These are the words and thoughts of ONE person anons so be careful with the information provided, mostly when you check his background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origen

His writings are…how should I say it? = controversial, so handle with extreme care if you are going down this tunnel.

“Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologiae offers a description of the nature of seraphim:

The name "Seraphim" does not come from charity only, but from the excess of charity, expressed by the word ardor or fire. Hence Dionysius (Coel. Hier. vii) expounds the name "Seraphim" according to the properties of fire, containing an excess of heat. Now in fire we may consider three things.

First, the movement which is upwards and continuous. This signifies that they are borne inflexibly towards God.

Secondly, the active force which is "heat," which is not found in fire simply, but exists with a certain sharpness, as being of most penetrating action, and reaching even to the smallest things, and as it were, with superabundant fervor; whereby is signified the action of these angels, exercised powerfully upon those who are subject to them, rousing them to a like fervor, and cleansing them wholly by their heat.

Thirdly we consider in fire the quality of clarity, or brightness; which signifies that these angels have in themselves an inextinguishable light, and that they also perfectly enlighten others.”

>> Notice the choice of words anons? So for the anons interested in this = handle with precautions.

“The seraphim took on a mystic role in Giovanni Pico della Mirandola's Oration on the Dignity of Man (1487), the epitome of Renaissance humanism. Pico took the fiery Seraphim—"they burn with the fire of charity"—as the highest models of human aspiration: "impatient of any second place, let us emulate dignity and glory. And, if we will it, we shall be inferior to them in nothing", the young Pico announced, in the first flush of optimistic confidence in the human capacity that is the coinage of the Renaissance. "In the light of intelligence, meditating upon the Creator in His work, and the work in its Creator, we shall be resplendent with the light of the Cherubim. If we burn with love for the Creator only, his consuming fire will quickly transform us into the flaming likeness of the Seraphim."

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3ae9fc  No.13751328

File: b86abee80329a86⋯.jpg (668.29 KB, 1534x2386, 767:1193, Seraphim_with_feet_holding….jpg)

>>13751286

(Please read from the start)

“Bonaventure, a Franciscan theologian who was a contemporary of Aquinas, uses the six wings of the seraph as an important analogical construct in his mystical work The Journey of the Mind to God.

Christian theology developed an idea of seraphim as beings of pure light who enjoy direct communication with God.

In Islam

Seraphim (Sarufiyyun or Musharifin) are mentioned in a hadith from Al-Tirmidhi, about a conversation between Muhammad and God, during the Night Journey, concerning what is between the Heavens and the earth, often interpreted as a reference to the "Exalted assembly" disputing the creation of Adam in Surah 38:69. Apart from that, Seraphim rarely appear in Islam. Sometimes, specific archangels, like Jibrāʾīl and Israfil, are identified as Seraphim. Robert Southey also noted an Islamic narration about Angels commanded to prostrate before Adam, whereupon Iblis refused as he boasted about himself being a Seraph created from celestial fire, more excellent than Adam.

In culture

[…]”

>> So in Islam Iblis = the Devil was a seraph whom refused to “bow” to Adam and he boasted about himself being created from the celestial fire. Is the celestial fire the Sun? If the Winged warriors came out from the Sun as a Stargate, does this mean the Sun = fire ball, gave birth to them in a metaphoric way/meaning? We also know that there were many Seraphim and that Iblis was just ONE of them.

I want to talk a bit about the images of the Seraphim I’ve been attaching to the different pages about them. If anons have noticed, in some, the seraph is holding a spear or a staff – mostly 2 staffs like our Staff-God from the Andean region. In some, Eyes are places on different parts of the body (including the forehead) or simply covering the seraph entirely like what we see in page 904. Is this the true origin of the EYE the Bloodline and their minions are so fond of? Are the multiple EYES of the seraph angel the origin of the EYE symbol of the Bloodlines? We already know the Kabbalah was fond of the seraph and had an attachment to them. So why not? It’s one of the many possibilities.

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572e08  No.13757517

File: 3c64b301df4b07d⋯.jpg (32.11 KB, 185x435, 37:87, seraphim_tetramorph.jpg)

>>13751328

(Please read from the start)

The last picture I’m presenting about the Seraphim is one called Tetramorph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetramorph

“A tetramorph is a symbolic arrangement of four differing elements, or the combination of four disparate elements in one unit. The term is derived from the Greek tetra, meaning four, and morph, shape.”

>>Etymology is always important. So here we have 4 different elements combined/mixed together to make one/ to become one.

“Archaeological evidence exists showing that early man divided the four quarters of the horizon, or space, later a place of sacrifice, such as a temple, and attributed characteristics and spiritual qualities to each quarter. Alternatively the composite elements were carved into mythic creatures such as the ancient Egyptian, Greek and Babylonian sphinxes of antiquity depicting bull-like bodies with birds-wings, lion's paws and human faces. Such composite creatures are found in many mythologies.”

>> The 4 quarters of the horizon or space are usually the 4 cardinal points/directions: a lot of altars were oriented in this or that direction; some even follow astronomical/ planetary alignments (depending on the case of course). In this thread, we’ve been seeing loads of Mythic sur-natural creatures, including the Griffins.

“In Christian art, the tetramorph is the union of the symbols of the Four Evangelists, derived from the four living creatures in the Book of Ezekiel, into a single figure or, more commonly, a group of four figures. Each of the four Evangelists is associated with one of the living creatures, usually shown with wings. The most common association, but not the original or only, is: Matthew the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. In Christian art and iconography, Evangelist portraits are often accompanied by tetramorphs, or the symbols alone used to represent them. Evangelist portraits that depict them in their human forms are often accompanied by their symbolic creatures, and Christ in Majesty is often shown surrounded by the four symbols.”

>> So this iconography find its roots in Judaism = specifically in the Book of Ezekiel and it was later on transmitted into Christianity and each animal was associated to one of the Evangelists. In other words, this was never originally a Christian Iconography. This was a transfer.

“The word comes from the Greek for "four forms" or "shapes". In English usage each symbol may be described as a tetramorph in the singular, and a group as "the tetramorphs", but usually only in contexts where all four are included. The tetramorphs were especially common in Early Medieval art, above all in illuminated Gospel books, but remain common in religious art to the present day.

Origins

Images of unions of different elements into one symbol were originally used by the Ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, and Greeks. The image of the sphinx, found in Egypt and Babylon, depicted the body of a lion and the head of a human, while the harpies of Greek mythology showed bird-like human women.”

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572e08  No.13757540

File: 7c81d5e473ea3b2⋯.jpg (127.49 KB, 405x232, 405:232, Different_types_of_Anunnak….jpg)

File: 76efea705fcc8a2⋯.jpg (436.85 KB, 1024x667, 1024:667, Assyrian.jpg)

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>>13757517

(Please read from the start)

“Ezekiel's living creatures

The prophet Ezekiel lived among the Jews who were exiled to Babylon in the 6th century BC. The creatures in his vision, from which the images of the tetramorph are derived, are reminiscent of ancient Assyrian art.”

>> This is extremely misleading, extremely. First of all these mythical sur-natural creatures iconography is much older than the one of the Assyrians. The Eagle showed up with the Sumerians; anons know them as the Eagle head Anunnakis. We also have the Human face winged Anunnaki. But these 2 are not the only types of Anunnaki we have: we also have an Anunnaki looking like a fish. The rarest Anunnaki iconography is one with the head of a Lion = feline. I’m attaching pictures for anons with this page.

As for the Lamassu = Winged Bull/Ox, saying its origin is Assyrian is nothing but a big fat lie and totally misleading. Researchers and anons are familiar with the famous Lamassu giant portal sculptures. These are at the height of the Lamassu’s artistic representation/ iconography but not the ORIGIN, NOT the STARTING POINT. The Lamassu iconography first come to be under the Sumerians as presented in the imprint of this Sumerian Cylinder seal where a Lamassu is pulling a chariot.

The Lamassu first appeared in the Sumerian culture and art in other words, it’s THOUSANDS of years old; it’s definitely NOT the INVENTION of the Assyrian = a few hundreds of years old. There is a huge misdirection/twisting taking place about the origin of such creatures as the Lamassu that it has put loads of researcher on the wrong tracks for centuries; misleading them away from the truth.

Since we are at it, let’s take a quick look at the Lamassu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamassu

“Lama, Lamma or Lamassu (Cuneiform: 𒀭𒆗, AN.KAL; Sumerian: Dlammař; later in Akkadian: lamassu; sometimes called a lamassus) is a Sumerian protective deity. Initially depicted as a female deity in Sumerian times, when it was called Lamma, it was later depicted from Assyrian times as a hybrid of a human, bird, and either a bull or lion—specifically having a human head, the body of a bull or a lion, and bird wings, under the name Lamassu. In some writings, it is portrayed to represent a female deity. A less frequently used name is shedu (Cuneiform: 𒀭𒆘, AN.KAL×BAD; Sumerian: Dalad; Akkadian, šēdu), which refers to the male counterpart of a lamassu. Lamassu represent the zodiacs, parent-stars or constellations.”

>> Notice how originally during the Sumerian times the Lama was a FEMALE and it was only thousands of years later, under the Assyrian rule that the Lamassu became MALE. Its original form was that of a Winged Bovine with the head of a HUMAN, but it’s morphed and mutated and we started to have variations of it.

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572e08  No.13757567

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>>13757540

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“Female goddess Lama

The goddess Lama appears initially as a mediating goddess who precedes the orants and presents them to the gods. The protective deity is clearly labelled as Lam(m)a in a Kassite stele unearthed at Uruk, in the temple of Ishtar, goddess to which she had been dedicated by king Nazi-Maruttash (1307–1282 BCE). It is a goddess wearing a ruffled dress and wearing a horned tiara symbolizing the deity, with two hands raised, in sign of prayer. A. Spycket proposed that similar female figures appearing in particular in glyptics and statuary from the Akkadian period, and in particular in the presentation scenes (common especially in the Paleo-Babylonian era) were to be considered as Lam(m)a. This opinion is commonly followed and in artistic terminology these female figures are generally referred to as Lam(m)a. From Assyrian times, Lamma becomes a hybrid deity, half-animal, half-human.”

>> This is well explained so I’m not going to comment much apart saying that she was a “protective” deity and doesn’t she remind anons of Hathor from Ancient Egypt?

“Lamassu iconography

From Assyrian times, lamassu were depicted as hybrids, with bodies of either winged bulls or lions and heads of human males. The motif of a winged animal with a human head is common to the Near East, first recorded in Ebla around 3000 BCE. The first distinct lamassu motif appeared in Assyria during the reign of Tiglath-Pileser II as a symbol of power.

>> See why I dislike going into the Assyrian period? It’s a mess, a complete mess. They did a very good job in twisting and mixing everything up, pushing us far away from the origins. See anons, the Lamassu were around way before 3000 B.C. and not around 6th century B.C. But no one from the Main Stream History wants you to know this.

“Assyrian sculpture typically placed prominent pairs of lamassu at entrances in palaces, facing the street and also internal courtyards. They were represented as "double-aspect" figures on corners, in high relief. From the front they appear to stand, and from the side, walk, and in earlier versions have five legs, as is apparent when viewed obliquely. Lumasi do not generally appear as large figures in the low-relief schemes running round palace rooms, where winged genie figures are common, but they sometimes appear within narrative reliefs, apparently protecting the Assyrians.”

>> The 5 legs are a visual effect for 3 D representation: as in if you see it from the front you will see 2 legs, but if you are seeing it from the side, you will still see 4 legs. It’s an optical/artistic/esthetic trick.

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572e08  No.13759869

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>>13757567

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“The colossal entranceway figures were often followed by a hero grasping a wriggling lion, also colossal in scale and in high relief. In the palace of Sargon II at Dur-Sharrukin, a group of at least seven lamassu and two such heroes with lions surrounded the entrance to the "throne room", "a concentration of figures which produced an overwhelming impression of power." They also appear on cylinder seals. Notable examples include those at the Gate of All Nations at Persepolis in Iran, the British Museum in London, the Louvre in Paris, the National Museum of Iraq in Baghdad, the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and the University of Chicago Oriental Institute. Several examples left in situ in northern Iraq were destroyed in the 2010s by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant when they occupied the area, as were those in the Mosul Museum.”

>> Notables = 7 Lamassu + Museum list + destruction by ISIS terrorists thanks to Hussein and Killary. What are the odds this was orchestrated and ordered by the Bloodlines? For (((them))) to destroy the Lamassu, it means (((they))) hate Winged Bull creatures and (((they))) want to erase their existence from history. This behavior of the Bloodlines towards the Lamassu is leading me to believe the Lamassu were GOOD and enemies of the Bloodline ancestors.

“Terminology

Lamassu represent the zodiacs, parent-stars, or constellations. They are depicted as protective deities because they encompass all life within them. In the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, they are depicted as physical deities as well, which is where the lamassu iconography originates, these deities could be microcosms of their microcosmic zodiac, parent-star, or constellation. Although lamassu had a different iconography and portrayal in the culture of Sumer, the terms "lamassu", "alad", and "shedu" evolved throughout the Assyro-Akkadian culture from the Sumerian culture to denote the Assyrian-winged-man-bull symbol and statues during the Neo-Assyrian Empire. Female lamassu were called "apsasû".

>> This is extremely important: In early Sumerian accounts of the Lamassu, it is said they were PHYSICAL deities = PHYSICAL BEINGS; as in having a body = existing in Flesh and Blood. But for some unknown reason this was forgotten, ignored and changed into the Lamassu being some type of fantastical creatures. If we add to this what was said about them being protective beings….then….aren’t they guardians = warriors protecting mankind?

I said earlier that I’m suspecting the existence of different TYPES of armor. Well, from the looks of it, it seems we’ve found them. In page 731, I’ve said that we have Acquatic type of armor and was wondering about the ground troops. Is the Ox/Bull one of them as well as the Lion armor? It’s starting to look that way to me…Some anons will argue that the Lamassu had wings…it’s true….so does this mean the Ox armor had the ability to fly as well? I need to gather more clues before making up my mind about the ability of the Ox armor to fly and if they belonged to ground or sky troops?

What is certain about the Ox armor is it battled evil. Why? Do you remember when we were reading about the Eye of Ra (starting page 69) it was said that the Eye of Ra was sometimes personified as Hathor (Cow), Sekhmet (Lioness), Bastet (Cat), Wadjet (Cobra – I see this one as Lightning) and Mut (Vulture symbol) = it’s ALL of them….Every single one is correct. Every single one is a different armor, all worn by warriors, male and female alike. It’s a perfect fit anons, and it makes totally sense to me. And the Lion armor is shown on the Anunnaki relief in page 909 as a warrior holding a dagger/blade.

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572e08  No.13759951

>>13759869

(Please read from the start)

Are the pieces starting to come together for you anons? Are you starting to see the big picture? Not? Then go back, go back to Mesoamerica and to the Andean Region, look at the various artifacts I’ve put for you, it’s all there in front of you. Some examples: Ox on Narmer Palette, the Decapitator from Andean Region, The Jaguar of the Lanzon, and fortress of Incas capital –Cusco shaped like a Jaguar etc. I’m not even mentioning the designs on pottery, metallurgy, textile etc. And I’m not even talking yet about the myths worldwide, like for example,when Ra took the form of a BIG CAT and slayed Apep with a blade (page 808). The list is very long.

The big question is = Does each armor represent the constellation they came from? As in = do the warriors wearing the Ox armor come from the Taurus constellation via the Stargate? And so on for the other constellations and armors? This calls for reflection and it’s better to gather more evidence before looking at this any deeper.

So far we are looking at 4 different types of armors. Anons, did you guess which is the 5th type of armor to add? Yes, it’s our Horned Serpent, the one worn by the Great Evil one.

And here is the list so far:

1 – Eagle armor.

2 – Fish armor.

3 – Lion armor.

4 – Ox/Bull = Lamassu armor.

5 – Horned Serpent armor.

I have also candidates for additional types of armors but I need to look more into this, as in gather more information before making up my mind about them:

1 – The Ram: Ometepe big statues, page 660, 4th picture, first statue has a ram helmet.

2 – The Griffin: I’ve talked about them before and I think they are a special type of warriors/ guardians = the Royal guards = they protect directly the Royal family. The problem I have with them is that they might be one squadron of the Feline armor and another one from the Eagle armor jointly protecting the Royal family. We have one guarding each side of the throne or door. Combined, they represent the Royals.

3 – The Scorpion: We’ve seen different artifacts (starting page 783 with Nergal) indicating Scorpion type of armor existed and it was worn by warriors. The Scorpion also protected Isis when she was fleeing from Seth. We also see it on different pre-dynastic artifacts from Ancient Egypt used as a heraldic symbol by warriors, including Narmer slaying an Ox on his famous palette. So I’m unsure about the Scorpion if it’s a primary armor or a sub-category….till now I’m leaning towards it’s a sub-category one.

4 – The Spider: We’ve seen the Spider appear in different places, cultures and civilizations, like the Great Goddess of Teotihuacan (starting page 294), the Cupisnique culture from the Andean Region (starting page 434) and the Moche Culture (starting page 436).

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7881d8  No.13764709

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>>13759951

(Please read from the start)

Continuing where I left off about the Lamassu:

“The motif of the Assyrian-winged-man-bull called Aladlammu and Lamassu interchangeably is not the lamassu or alad of Sumerian origin, which were depicted with different iconography. These monumental statues were called aladlammû or lamassu which meant "protective spirit".In Hittite, the Sumerian form dlamma is used both as a name for the so-called "tutelary deity", identified in certain later texts with Inara, and a title given to similar protective gods.

Mythology

The lamassu is a celestial being from ancient Mesopotamian religion bearing a human head, bull's body, sometimes with the horns and the ears of a bull, and wings. It appears frequently in Mesopotamian art. The lamassu and shedu were household protective spirits of the common Babylonian people, becoming associated later as royal protectors, and were placed as sentinels at entrances.The Akkadians associated the god Papsukkal with a lamassu and the god Išum with shedu.

To protect houses, the lamassu were engraved in clay tablets, which were then buried under the door's threshold. They were often placed as a pair at the entrance of palaces. At the entrance of cities, they were sculpted in colossal size, and placed as a pair, one at each side of the door of the city, that generally had doors in the surrounding wall, each one looking towards one of the cardinal points.”

>> It’s linked to the cardinal points as I was saying about the Tetramorph.

“The ancient Jewish people were influenced by the iconography of Assyrian culture. The prophet Ezekiel wrote about a fantastic being made up of aspects of a human being, a lion, an eagle and a bull. Later, in the early Christian period, the four Gospels were ascribed to each of these components. When it was depicted in art, this image was called the Tetramorph.

In modern culture

[…]

A man with a bull's body is found among the creatures that make up Aslan's army in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C. S. Lewis. He appears at the Stone Table, challenging the White Witch "with a great bellowing voice". In the film Alexander (2004), lamassu are seen at the Ishtar Gate in Babylon. In the Disney movie Aladdin (1992), a gold lamassu can be found in the scene where Aladdin and Abu enter the cave in the desert to find the lamp. And, in the "Star Wars" prequel: Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones, Lama Su is the name of the Kaminoan cloner who tells Obi-wan Kenobi about Jango Fett being the clone army's template.

[…]”

>> And now let’s return to where we left of about the Tetramorph on page 909.

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7881d8  No.13764711

>>13764709

(Please read from the start)

“The animals associated with the Christian tetramorph originate in the Babylonian symbols of the four fixed signs of the zodiac: the ox representing Taurus; the lion representing Leo; the eagle representing Scorpio; the man or angel representing Aquarius. In Western astrology the four symbols are associated with the elements of, respectively Earth, Fire, Water, and Air. The creatures of the Christian tetramorph were also common in Egyptian, Greek, and Assyrian mythology. The early Christians adopted this symbolism and adapted it for the four Evangelists as the tetramorph, which first appears in Christian art in the 5th century, but whose interpretative origin stems from Irenaeus in the 2nd century.”

>> Well, I just explain about the Assyrian/Babylonion misleading information, so I’m not going there once more. And I also explained the “possible” link to astronomy, but it’s unverified. As for the connection to the 4 cardinal points and the connection to the 4 Primary Elements, I think there is a link not just with the warriors but with the Stargate = Portal as well. I’m still confused though as to how they are all linked. I rather wait to gather more information before making up my mind, but I do see it as a possible link. And as it’s very obvious, the Tetramorph was combined to the 4 Envangelists later on chronologically. This was added by men, not mentioned by Christ.

“The elements of the Christian tetramorph first appear in the vision of Ezekiel, who describes the four creatures as they appear to him in a vision:

As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

They are described later in the Book of Revelation:

And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

The four evangelists as four living creatures

The association of the four living creatures with the four evangelists originated with Irenaeus in the 2nd century. The interpretation of each creature has varied through church history. The most common interpretation, first laid out by Victorinus and adopted by Jerome, St Gregory, and the Book of Kells is that the man is Matthew, the lion Mark, the ox Luke, and the eagle John. The creatures of the tetramorph, just like the four gospels of the Evangelists, represent four facets of Christ.”

>> I’m not going to comment much apart saying this came from much later period.

“It is clear from the table that various interpretive schemes have been followed through church history. The four main schemes are summarized below with their most well-known proponent and rationale. The given rationale usually has to do with how each Gospel begins, major themes in each Gospel, or the aspect of Christ emphasized in each Gospel.”

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7881d8  No.13764714

>>13764711

(Please read from the start)

“1st scheme—Irenaeus

The man is Matthew, because his Gospel begins with the genealogy of Jesus; the lion is John, because his Gospel begins full of confidence; the ox is Luke, because his Gospel begins with priestly sacrifice; and the eagle is Mark, because his Gospel begins with the prophecy of Isaiah. Irenaeus originates this connection between the four living creatures and the four evangelists because he is looking for an answer to the question "Why four Gospels?"

2nd scheme (most common)—Jerome

The rationale given for this scheme is how each Gospel narrative begins. Matthew is the man because he begins with a genealogy; Mark is the lion, roaring in the desert with prophetic power; Luke is the ox, because he begins with temple sacrifice; and John is the eagle, flying heavenwards like the divine Word. It must be said that at a certain point, once enough interpretive authorities in the church backed this scheme, many who followed simply defaulted to their authority.

3rd scheme—Augustine

The lion is Matthew, because Matthew's Gospel depicts Christ royal character, he who descended from the tribe of Judah; the ox is Luke, because Christ is shown in his priestly character; the man is Mark, because of the humanity of Christ shown in that Gospel focusing on the things the man did; and the eagle is John, because the mystery of the Word ascends to heaven. Augustine departs from Jerome's scheme saying, "This latter formulation focuses only on the beginnings of the books and not on the overall plan of the evangelists, which is what should have been examined more thoroughly."

4th scheme—Aimee Semple McPherson

The Eagle is Matthew, who presents Jesus as the King who will soon return to seek his people, Jesus Will Return; the ox is Luke, where he presents Jesus as the suffering servant who bore our sickness, Jesus Healing; The Face of Man (representing Mark) presents Jesus as the perfect man who came to save us, Jesus Saves; The Lion is John presents Jesus as the Baptizer in the Holy Spirit.

5th scheme—Witness Lee

The lion is Matthew, because Matthew portrays the Lord Jesus as the King; the ox is Mark, because Mark portrays Him as a servant; the man is Luke, because Luke portrays Him as a perfect, genuine man; the eagle is John, because John portrays Him as God.”

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7881d8  No.13764723

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>>13764714

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“The tetramorph in art

Representation and symbolism in Christianity

The creatures of the tetramorph, as they appear in their animal forms, are predominantly shown as winged figures. The wings, an ancient symbol of divinity, represent the divinity of the Evangelists, the divine nature of Christ, and the virtues required for Christian salvation . In regards to the depiction of St Mark in particular, the use of wings distinguish him from images of St Jerome, who is also associated with the image of a lion.

The perfect human body of Christ was originally represented as a winged man, and was later adapted for St Matthew in order to symbolise Christ's humanity. In the context of the tetramorphs, the winged man indicates Christ's humanity and reason, as well as Matthew's account of the Incarnation of Christ. The lion of St Mark represents courage, resurrection, and royalty, coinciding with the theme of Christ as king in Mark's gospel. It is also interpreted as the Lion of Judah as a reference to Christ's royal lineage.The ox, or bull, is an ancient Christian symbol of redemption and life through sacrifice, signifying Luke's records of Christ as a priest and his ultimate sacrifice for the future of humanity. The eagle represents the sky, heavens, and the human spirit, paralleling the divine nature of Christ.”

>> Would the reader believe me if I said that I was suspecting Jesus Christ to be of royal lineage….but not the Judean one?

“In their earliest appearances, the Evangelists were depicted in their human forms each with a scroll or a book to represent the Gospels. By the 5th century, images of the Evangelists evolved into their respective tetramorphs. By the later Middle Ages, the tetramorph in the form of creatures was used less frequently. Instead, the Evangelists were often shown in their human forms accompanied by their symbolic creatures, or as men with the heads of animals.”

>> As I’ve said many times already: this was NOT there at the origin but mutated and was added later on = many centuries later.

“In images where the creatures surround Christ, the winged man and the eagle are often depicted at Christ's sides, with the lion and the ox positioned lower by his feet, with the man on Christ's right, taking precedence over the eagle, and the lion to the left of the ox. These positions reflect the medieval great chain of being.

Depictions in Christian art

[…]”

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7881d8  No.13765221

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>>13764723

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Since all of this about the Seraphim and the tetramorph started with Judaism, I’m going to take a look into it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_creatures_(Bible)

“The living creatures, living beings, or hayyoth (Hebrew חַיּוֹת ḥayyōṯ) are a class of heavenly beings in Jewish mythology. They are described in the prophet Ezekiel's vision of the heavenly chariot in the first and tenth chapters of the Book of Ezekiel. References to the sacred creatures recur in texts of Second Temple Judaism, in rabbinical merkabah ("chariot") literature, in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament, and in the Zohar.”

>> “Zohar”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar

See what I’ve been trying to tell you about (((them))) being attached to the tetramorph and the seraphim just like (((they))) are attached to the hamsa: (((they))) know what it’s about.

“According to Jewish and Christian traditions, there are four living creatures, although their description varies by source. The symbolic depiction of the four living creatures in religious art, especially Christian art, is called a tetramorph.

Ezekiel's four living creatures

Ezekiel's vision of the four living creatures in Ezekiel chapter 1 are identified as cherubim in chapter 10 who are God's throne bearers. Cherubim as minor guardian deities of temple or palace thresholds are known all over the Ancient East. Each of Ezekiel's cherubim have four faces, that of a man, a lion, an ox, and an eagle. However, their human shape appearances set them apart from the griffin-like cherubs and lamassu of Babylonia and Assyria. In their ability to move, Ezekiel's cherubim do not need to turn, since they face all compass points simultaneously. This description of movement differs from the seraphim in Isaiah's vision (Isaiah 6:2) who have an extra set of wings for their ability to fly.

Revelation's four living beings

In Revelation 4:6–8, four living beings (Greek: ζῷον, zōion) are seen in John's vision. These appear as a lion, an ox, a man, and an eagle, much as in Ezekiel but in a different order. They have six wings, whereas Ezekiel's four living creatures are described as only having four. In verse 6, they are said to have "eyes all over, front and back", suggesting that they are alert and knowledgeable, that nothing escapes their notice.The description parallels the wheels that are beside the living creatures in Ezekiel 1.18; 10.12, which are said to be "full of eyes all around". The Hebrew word for "wheel" (ôpannîm) was also used in later Jewish literature to indicate a member of the angelic orders (1 Enoch 71.7; 3 Enoch 1.8; 7.1; 25.5-6, etc.). In this passage in Revelation, the four beasts surround "the one" on the red throne (which is of ruby and sardius), which is contrasted with the white throne in Daniel 7:9 and Revelation 20:11–15.”

>> The throne of God is NOT RED – color red.

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7881d8  No.13765240

>>13765221

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“Comparing the living creatures in Ezekiel with Revelation's is a prominent apocalyptic study in Western Christianity. An example is the 18th Century works of Jonathan Edwards' recorded interpretation of 1722/23. The four living creatures that John of Patmos sees in the Book of Revelation, is the author's reworking of the living creatures in the visions of Ezekiel (Ezekiel 1:5-28) and Isaiah (Isaiah 6:2). William D. Mounce noted a belief that the living creatures may have been associated with the four principal (or fixed) signs of the zodiac (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius),but other scholars have doubted this interpretation.

In a critical analysis of John's vision, April De Conick's 2006 essay outlines that the hayyot in Ezekiel are perhaps not original with the author of Revelation. De Conick suggests that John may have drawn from other merkabah-related texts and by subtly working with images already known to his audience, he reshaped them for his own purposes.With John blending and transforming the images of his sources, it has given way to different interpretations.

Religious views

In Judaism, the living beings are considered angels of fire, who hold up the throne of God. According to the Zohar, they hold up the firmament itself.They are ranked first in Maimonides' Jewish angelic hierarchy.

In Christianity, the four living creatures are Cherubim. A prominent early interpretation, variously modified by different interpreters, has been to equate the four creatures with the Four Evangelists. Throughout church history, the most common interpretation (first laid out by Victorinus), but not the original or the only, is that the lion represents Mark, the calf Luke, the man Matthew, and the eagle John. Irenaeus was the first to make the association with the evangelists, but the interpretation laid out by Victorinus and adopted by Jerome, Gregory the Great, and the Book of Kells became dominant. Its influence has been on art and sculpture and is still prevalent in Catholicism and Anglicanism. A view held by many modern commentators is that the four living creatures of Revelation are agents of God and heavenly representatives of the created order, who call every living thing to worship the Creator.”

>>Now ask yourselves anons: where before, in this thread have we bumped into “creatures” with undetermined form or unidentified “beings”? Think about it, try to remember, if you cannot, then go back and look for them because we did run into such beings in this thread before.

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d6b3d7  No.13773824

>>13765240

(Please read from the start)

What I’m going to do next is to try to bring all of this together, including the seraphim, the tetramorph and the armors along with the undetermined form creatures:

Well, the first thing that came to my mind is Seth and was said about him. What is the form of Seth? (starting page 809). What animal is he portrayed in? All the other deities in Ancient Egypt have very distinct and known forms; well defined, either human or animal….this includes the Wedjat. But when we look at Seth…he is a very big enigma, a huge mystery that no one managed to solve till now. When you study him carefully you will notice that he is some type of composite: as in he we can make sense of certain parts or section of him but not the ALL. It gives you the impression he is made of MANY parts = multiple animals. Doesn’t that make him a multi-morph or a multi-form creature just like the Seraphim are, specially the Tetramorphs?

When you read or research about the Kabbalah writings about Seth, they project a benevolent picture of him; making him the good and kind deity. While they project Osiris as being Evil and a tyrant, making the people suffer under his cruel rule: yes, this is what (((they))) preach and believe in. So for (((them))) Seth HAD to kill his brother and take the throne in order to FREE the people from the tyrannical cruel rule of Osiris. How NICE of him!

Then, (((they))) go a mile further by “accusing” Isis of practicing Necrophilia with a “made-up”, “fabricated” phallus and then got pregnant with Horus. Well anons, we just took a look at all of this and we know that this version came in later periods where the texts mutated mostly starting from the New Kingdom era; where the Ramesside Dynasty’s protective patron (at least one of them) was none-other than Seth. When we reached the Ptolemaic rule, the influence and presence of the Bloodlines is extremely noticeable. The twisting = re-writing = re-interpreting of history according to (((their))) views is visible to the naked eye.

Now do tell me anons, if you read a text from the Bloodline’s teaching or the Kabbalah secret books or whatever, will you believe it to be correct, true, word to word? Then ask yourselves why the Kabbalah are so fond of the Seraphim, mostly the Tetramorph and fond of Seth? The researcher can easily pin the common points between Seth, the Seraphim and the Tetramorph; with the most notable point is Kabbalah’s attachment to them. These (=Seth, Seraphim and Tetramorph) are deeply rooted in Kabbalah and Judaism doctrine and faith (for the later two). Do you believe in (((their))) doctrine and teachings? I don’t know about you anons, but whatever (((they))) say, I take it as true but in a 180 degrees: if (((they))) say Black, for me it means White; if (((they))) say Right, I take it as Left = a 180.

(((They))) obviously infiltrated the Church = (((They))) had centuries of FREE time to INFILTRATE the Church and yes, (((they))) introduced and planted (((their))) teachings and believes in it, including the imagery = iconography of the ones (((they))) worship and follow. The Churches worldwide are covered with murals, reliefs or statues of the Seraphim, mostly the Tetramorph: this is NOT the representation of Jesus and the Apostoles. I strongly think this is the iconography of the Evil One Clan, the one whom was the head of the coup against the King.

When you go to Spain and visit all the “supposed” beautiful churches built over the centuries, just notice the details and all the symbolism in the decoration. When you go a step further and research WHOM funded all of this luxurious decoration you will find out it’s the noble and aristocratic families (mostly) = the elite. When you dig a bit deeper you will find out that ALL of these families were either Satanists or Jewish families. That’s just Spain, I’m not talking about the rest of Europe.

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d6b3d7  No.13773867

>>13773824

(Please read from the start)

The same goes for Judaism and mostly the teachings of Judaism. It has been under their thumb for centuries, even way before Christianity showed up. (((Their))) teachings and doctrine is so imbedded into Judaism that it’s terribly intertwined and yes, it kinda fused together. For the new reader this may sound like a senile man talking whom doesn’t even know what it’s all about. But for those whom have been reading what I post for so long, they know I don’t say those things lightly and randomly. It’s simply that I’m not coming in the open about some issue and I’m holding back on other issues.

For those whom know me, here from the start, would you accept my testimony, while I stay blurry about the details, about something I saw with my own eyes? I’m unable to give those details for safety issues, but I will tell you that I went in an Archive Room that I wasn’t “supposed” to get into = a place reserved for “special access” people. I was working on Ezekiel with his Lament on Tyre. I’ve already mentioned this part in page 10, in thread 4. Back then, I had already found the information I needed about Beth-Togarmah and the type of merchandise transported by the Armenian traders. But I wanted to find an older source than the one I had on my hands. As I was digging MANUALLY I found a hint that lead me to this “special access” Archive Room. I got in there by “chance” even though no access was granted to me.

When I followed the code number that I previously found, it turned out to be that of ONE SINGLE piece of very old parchment paper. And yes, it was about Tyre by Ezekiel. What I read on that parchment rattled me to my core. The text was ALMOST the SAME. ALMOST. Apart it was NOT identical to the one of recent times.

What was changed was the NAME and a few other tiny subtle changes, enough to make it coherent, have a homogenous meaning. What was changed was the Name of the City-State. It was NOT Tyre but JERUSALEM. This rattled me greatly and I couldn’t believe what my eyes were seeing. When I checked the date of the parchment, it turned out to be extremely old.

I couldn’t take pictures or make copies of it because back then, we were still on archaic means of research, compared to now: that was decades ago. There were no smart phones around and all this tech we have nowadays. And I couldn’t ask to make copies of it since I wasn’t even supposed to be in that “special access” Archive Room. So I got out of the place just as I got in: unnoticed. But I got out there KNOWING, REALIZING = it was ALL A LIE. Everything we think we know about the Old Testament is a LIE since the text was CLEARLY ALTERED from that time and remaind like that till now.

I will leave it to anons to believe or not this weak testimony of mine. It depends on you, the reader. The archaeological artifacts already made me doubt the accuracy of the Old Testament, but seeing that parchment was confirmation of my doubts for all of those years. I know deep in me, that someday, somehow, the truth will come out. Maybe not today, or next year, but I know one day in the future, the truth will come out.

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d6b3d7  No.13773900

>>13773867

(Please read from the start)

The following link is Ezekiel’s section of Tyre as we know it nowadays along with a comment from the site. I’m going to post it all, read it carefully please: https://www.enterthebible.org/Controls/feature/tool_etb_resource_display/resourcebox.aspx?selected_rid=769&original_id=46

“Ezekiel 28:11-19 – Lament over the King of Tyre or Fall of Satan?

Summary

Ezekiel prophesies the fall of the king of Tyre in a highly symbolic lament. Some think this is an allegory of the fall of Satan.

Analysis

In a long set of prophecies about Tyre and its king, predicting their fall and destruction, Ezekiel creates this lament over the fall of the king of Tyre. The prophet symbolizes the arrogance and conceit of the king in mythological terms. He is compared to the beautiful, perfect, first human in paradise (28:12-13). The translation of 28:14 is difficult, and the king may be compared to a guardian angel (cherub), or perhaps he may have been appointed a guardian cherub. In any case, he is privileged to walk on the holy mountain of God, among the stones of fire. The point of these symbols is that the man had direct access to the presence and glory of God.

While we may be tempted to see Satan in these verses, as many ancient commentators did, the actual reference is to the king of Tyre. The king's arrogance and self-understood greatness is described in mythological terms, drawn from the Bible and the surrounding culture. These mythological attributes emphasize in striking visual symbols the greatness of his fall from the heights of power. The symbolism draws from the fall of Adam and other sources, and not from the fall of Satan, which comes much later in Jewish religion. Compare 31:8-9, which describe the pharaoh of Egypt in terms of Eden also.”

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d6b3d7  No.13773904

>>13773900

(Please read from the start)

“Ezekiel 28:11-19

Lamentation over the King of Tyre

11 Moreover, the word of the Lord came to me: 12Mortal, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God:

You were the signet of perfection,*

full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;

every precious stone was your covering,

carnelian, chrysolite, and moonstone,

beryl, onyx, and jasper,

sapphire,* turquoise, and emerald;

and worked in gold were your settings

and your engravings.*

On the day that you were created

they were prepared.

14 With an anointed cherub as guardian I placed you;*

you were on the holy mountain of God;

you walked among the stones of fire.

15 You were blameless in your ways

from the day that you were created,

until iniquity was found in you.

16 In the abundance of your trade

you were filled with violence, and you sinned;

so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God,

and the guardian cherub drove you out

from among the stones of fire.

17 Your heart was proud because of your beauty;

you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendour.

I cast you to the ground;

I exposed you before kings,

to feast their eyes on you.

18 By the multitude of your iniquities,

in the unrighteousness of your trade,

you profaned your sanctuaries.

So I brought out fire from within you;

it consumed you,

and I turned you to ashes on the earth

in the sight of all who saw you.

19 All who know you among the peoples

are appalled at you;

you have come to a dreadful end

and shall be no more for ever.”

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d6b3d7  No.13773940

>>13773904

(Please read from the start)

>> The Living Spirit of God is still here but the people forgot about it, instead they are following a BOOK written by MEN. Please listen to this interview, mostly toward the end on what was said about the Bible, Judaism and Christianity. This guest is on the right track of thoughts. God is kind, loving, warm, tender and merciful. He never left us because He was always INSIDE of us.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QY09EIdA8UEA/

The link is of SGT Report Bitchute account. Mr. Sean interviewed Mr. Marty Leeds. Thank you Mr. Sean for all that you do.

Well anons, for me, it doesn’t matter which version of the Bible we are reading. If it’s the Protestant, the Evangelical, the Catholic, the Orthodox etc. Because no matter which version you follow or use the meaning is incorrect because the City-State that was in question was NEVER Tyre but Jerusalem and its “master”. And it was not about just any master but a specific one = a spiritual master of the City-State of Jerusalem. Can you guess whom it is? The patron deity worshiped there was none other than the Fallen One himself. And yes anons, the analysis given in the link, where it’s said this is an allegory of the fall of Satan, this is correct because this is what was written on that parchment.

In the parchment, Ezekiel was calling it the City of the unforgivable sinners = the sinners that cannot be forgiven. That got me intrigued, so I spent the few next decades along with my mentor trying to find out what those sins are. My first thoughts were: it had to be murder and maybe even rape and abortion on demand. What could be worse, right? Well, after many decades of digging, I found out it was worse: Cannibalism, Human Sacrifice and Incest. I found out that people whom practiced these SINS were cast out = thrown out of ALL the City-States in the region, including nowadays Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt and Jordan. These Out-casts, rejected by society, gathered and formed a hub at first, in the location which became later on the City of Jerusalem.

Dear reader, it’s going to be up to you to research and verify everything. Believing this to be true or not will be up to you. As Qteam said: The End Won’t Be For Everyone – the team was correct.

Just like with Satan, Seth, was among the other deities at first, even helping Ra = the Creator to defeat the Evil Apep. This also matches well with the warrior aspect of both Satan and Seth; as in both being some type of protective deity/ warrior of the throne of God. But then, something changed midway, kinda midway. You know what I mean there. Something very Evil happened. In (15) of Ezekiel’s Lament, it was said that “Iniquity” was found in “him”. What’s the meaning of Iniquity: Evil, wrong, wickedness, vice, sin, villainy, obscenity etc. It wasn’t there at the start though, but then, it was found in him. Think about this for now.

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5d63ff  No.13775846

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>>13773940

(Please read from the start)

Another common point about Seth and the Seraphim (not all but some), is the color RED. From everything that I’ve gathered and shown to anons, I believe the RED color was the color of the Evil One’s armor and all of these EYES on it were blasters just like Iron Man has on his palms. The red throne mentioned in the Old Testament is NOT that of God, our Heavenly Father, but that of this Evil One. In page 809, it was written that Seth represents the infertile RED sand of the desert. I personally believe that the Seraphim, mostly that Tetramorph one, is none other than Clan of the Evil One = his warriors. Also the color RED was the color of the Deshtret Crown of Lower Egypt; while the White Crown mostly worn by Osiris = the Hedjet was the Crown of Upper Egypt. I don’t know for sure anons but there is a connection somehow with the color RED. The color is a tiny bit of a common point between the red crown of Egypt and the “supposed” Red Throne of God whom I think was none other the throne of Satan because the text was altered. The white throne of God = correct color and the White crown of Egypt. As in the Red color is the color of the Evil one, while the White color is the color of the good side.

I wonder why it’s the RED color and not blue or green or yellow or any other color. I wonder if this is to BLOOD, human blood, mostly bloodshed. We have Nergal and his slaughter of the people of Babylon (page 789), the Eye of Ra was unleashed on mankind and it resulted in a bloodbath (starting page 69). This is the gruesome act related to the Evil One (at least his side): Seth dismembered Osiris. It’s not the first time we’ve seen dismemberment in this thread: we saw it in Mesoamerica (page 274), also we know one of the Nommos (Dogon) was dismembered; we have it as well and in the Andean Region with the Tiwanaku culture (page 477). By the way, as I was checking that page again, I noticed the Staff-God can bring hail, rain and thunder just like what the Native American ThunderBirds are said to do.

What’s the meaning of Rothschild? = isn’t it RED SHIELD = shield is part of a military armor.

A few pages ago, I’ve said, it’s unclear if the category of angels called the Seraphim, ALL of them, followed the Evil One or if it was a section of them. We know mostly from the Epic of Gilgamesh that there was a group of plotters, so this “coup” took some time to plan and prepare. It wasn’t done in a blink and the ranks of the good guys were infiltrated…but the bad guys were also infiltrated as well = In order to save Utnapishtim from the Flood, the god Ea told him of the plan and of the dimensions to build the Ark (page 39). So in other word, Ea divulged the plan of the plotters. By doing so, he saved mankind despite the cataclysm that was unleashed on it by the Evil plotters. Doesn’t it sound like Ea was a SPY within the Bad guys, getting information for the good guys? Did he have a change of heart and reconsidered his actions?

Loads to think about.

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a4d988  No.13782319

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>>13775846

(Please read from the start)

Anyone reading notice the Lance/ Spear/ Staff Seth and the Seraphim, including the Tetramorph are all holding? I did and I think it’s the Sharur or something close to it. But not all seem to shoot out electricity from them, some shot out FIRE. And it seems FIRE Sharur was the one used by the Evil One, apart his blasters (including the Hamsa). There is a movie that reflects well what I’m talking about; it’s called Oz the Great and Powerful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_the_Great_and_Powerful

“Oz the Great and Powerful is a 2013 American fantasy adventure film directed by Sam Raimi and written by David Lindsay-Abaire and Mitchell Kapner from a story by Kapner. Based on L. Frank Baum's early 20th century Oz novels and set 20 years before the events of the original 1900 novel, the film is a spiritual prequel to the 1939 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer film The Wizard of Oz. Starring James Franco in the title role, Mila Kunis, Rachel Weisz, Michelle Williams, Zach Braff, Bill Cobbs, Joey King, and Tony Cox, the film tells the story of Oscar Diggs, a deceptive magician who arrives in the Land of Oz and encounters three witches: Theodora, Evanora, and Glinda. Oscar is then enlisted to restore order in Oz while struggling to resolve conflicts with the witches and himself.

Kapner began developing an origin story for the Wizard of Oz after a lifelong interest of wanting to create one for the character. Walt Disney Pictures commissioned the film's production in 2009 with Joe Roth as producer and Grant Curtis, Joshua Donen, Philip Steuer and Palak Patel serving as executive producers. Raimi was hired to direct the following year. After Robert Downey Jr. and Johnny Depp declined the titular role, Franco was cast in February 2011 with principal photography commencing five months later. Danny Elfman composed the film's score.

[…] The film won the Phoenix Film Critics Society Award for Best Live Action Family Film and Kunis won the MTV Movie Award for Best Villain for her performance as the Wicked Witch of the West.”

>> Now before we read the next section of this movie which is the plot, I would like to ask anons to read it carefully and compare with the CORE of what I’m trying to expose. What they did in this movie was kinda scatter the events of what happened back then and spread them to different personas in the movie – instead of them being concentrated in one person. I’m not sure if I’m explaining this right, as in they took the ideas and scattered them and divided them onto the different characters of the movie. The details don’t matter much since they are altered or switched a bit from one movie to another, but the core story is the same, the core idea:

Like there was a COUP to overthrow the good rightful king from the throne by an Evil Duo: in this case it’s 2 females. I think this is altered a bit from the original core because of the feminist movement influence on Hollywood for the last few years. I think the original Evil ones were one male and one female = a couple. And one of them, at least, was a close relative of the king: a sibling or an offspring.

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a4d988  No.13782350

File: 37e9bed286edb18⋯.jpg (53.89 KB, 630x420, 3:2, Theodora_the_wicked_witch_….jpg)

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>>13782319

(Please read from the start)

Like each witch had a different type of army, including one that could fly. And how they each had a different kind of power that comes out from their hands: One from the palm of her hand sends fire balls, while the other from her finger tips sends some type of green electrical current. The first one seems to be a perfect match with the hamsa and the Native American Horned Serpent (page 750), isn’t it? Isn’t: “getting dazed by the bright light” = hamsa = blasters?

Also Evanora gives Theodora an APPLE that transforms her into a hateful person, but at the origin, she was such a nice and kind hearted person, totally innocent and pure of heart. Doesn’t this remind us of Satan, whom was an angel of God at first, kind and beautiful; then he changed and transformed into a nasty fallen one? Also the apple, doesn’t this remind us of the apple from the Garden of Eden, given to Eve to corrupt her?

As for Oz, he’s a trickster, a con artist, an illusionist. He became king through lies, trickery, deceit and cheating. He’s a grand master of illusion. If you observe closely, he uses the “matrix” = illusion, to control the people of Emerald City and win over the 2 Evil Witches. Do I need to say more? Isn’t this what Satan does? Isn’t he a master of lies and illusions? What do the Bloodlines nowadays do? Don’t they use this same means and method to brainwash us and control us? What are all of these FFs? What about the Plandemic? Isn’t it like a big trick identical to the one played by the Wizard of Oz in the movie?

I can go on and on about this movie, including all the symbolism in it, like Franco making the devil horns symbol with his hand, towards the end of the movie, when he is snuggled in the Emerald City and talking with the monkey and other guy in the alley. I will leave it to anons to put this under the microscope and see everything for themselves. What is important for me is to bring attention to the same core story that keeps on repeating itself about a COUP to take over the throne by an Evil Duo, along with their group. The theme keeps on repeating itself in Hollywood a lot. Is it a reflection of a distant past? Is this mirroring the hidden history of mankind? I believe it is anons. Everything is pointing me in that direction.

Oh! There is a prophecy ^_^ If only anons knew how true this is. It seems the Bloodlines also know of this prophecy. But they know it from the Dark side; while I know it from the Light side. And yes anons, it’s about whom will rule and the age to come. Do you remember the 16 years plan Qteam talked about? Why do you think it was timed to NOW = the times we now live? The Bloodlines were in control for centuries so why NOW? Because, it’s linked to THAT prophecy. It’s about a baby that will be born and his birth will weigh on the scale either for the good side or the bad side. The Windsors think that baby is William, while the Payseurs think it’s Chelsea; both freaks are born under a planetary alignment and both have their mother named Diana ^_^ One think the child in the prophecy is male, while the other think the child is female. See now why Killary had one abortion after another before having Chelsea? Chelsea’s birth was calculated, just like William’s was.

This is an interview with a mister called Juan O Savin: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EEcJzckwCno4/

Listen to what he says about William Windsor starting minute 34. It’s not just William, but also Chelsea Clinton.

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756102  No.13784493

>>13782350

(Please read from the start)

It’s a very good interview.

Around min 46.44 he mentions Kaddafi. He is telling you the truth about him, but the MSM and all of the politicians for decades told you Kaddafi was a terrorist, a tyrant and a dictator. And everyone believed that. But the truth was different from what you were told. How much are you awake, truly awake? WHOM ENABLED the slavery to return to Libya? The truth is a hard pill to swallow. It’s not a talk that you want to hear, but it’s the truth and the truth is always ugly and harsh. See how Sean stopped him and couldn’t handle the idea that each and every single one of us are guilty because we played the ostrich and pretend nothing is happening, right under our noses? As long as we are comfy in our homes, no one cares what happens to others. It’s only when the bad thing happen to us that we react and we are outraged by it. Aren’t you ALL like that? Isn’t this called selfishness? Where is your compassion?

Starting minute 19, towards the end, listen carefully. God’s signature. Divine Help. It’s OUT there SOMEWHERE. No Mr Juan, you are not wrong, Divine intervention already occurred, but everyone is blind and doesn’t see it. I can assure you Mr Juan, you have no idea how Hell looks like, you are very far from it. You haven’t seen anything yet. If you want to keep it away from you, start by being a Spark, a spark of LIGHT.

If anons want to win, they gotta stand up and say NO, NO MORE. People should STOP being SELFISH and think ONLY of themselves. The moment you starting feeling with one another as patriots, helping one another = STOP standing by and watching idily like that. Potus Trump, general Flynn and many others has been showing you the way to kindness and LIGHT for a long time now. But whom among you is really listening?

You don’t need to be violent, that’s a trap to drag you into Civil War, wherever you are. But if the people stick together, (((they))) cannot isolate us and take us down. And if you don’t feel wrong about your inaction, then (((they))) win. You can achieve a lot, you the reader, you can put your weight on the scale and change the destiny of many and save many lives all over the planet.

(((They))) tricked you in an illusion, thinking your voice doesn’t matter, you have no weight. If you believe that, then you are a fool and you are not awake yet. (((They))) fear us more than you can ever imagine. So STAND UP and say NO. Help one another, be kind, be compassionate toward others. Start FEELING. As long as you don’t feel, then you are doomed, literally. I’m saying this seriously. You want God to bless you? Good. Then get on His side, get on the side of GOOD and stop enabling Evil by turning your head away, by looking the other way when you see something wrong, by pretending nothing wrong is going on or by simply burying your head in the sand like an ostrich. You can take (((them))) down by being kind to one another and help one another, worldwide. We must stand together as one HEART against (((their))) darkness, so we can make the Light shine. Only the Light can and will vanquish the Darkness. And only YOU can EMIT that LIGHT.

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756102  No.13784551

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>>13784493

(Please read from the start)

Judaism is NOT the WAY. Jesus Christ is. Stop blindly following a BOOK that is used to manipulate you, it’s a means to control you. Start walking in the footsteps of Jesus Christ. It doesn’t matter how much you know the scriptures; if you do wrong, if you heart is black, if you are selfish, then you are not a Christian. Being a Christian is being compasionate. When was the last time you feed a poor hungry person? Or came to the help of a person being bullied by punks? Or gave your seat to an old or pregnant lady on the train?

ONE act of kindness drives the demons totally out of their minds. It kills them. I mean that literally, not figuratively. So imagine if there are plenty of acts of kindness taking place all over the world. The child of the prophecy has already put his weight on the scale, join him and help end this darkness faster. The choice is yours.

Now let’s go back to the lame movie called Oz the great and powerful.

“Plot

In 1905 Kansas, Oscar Diggs is a magician and con artist in a traveling circus. The circus strongman learns Oscar has flirted with his wife and threatens him. Oscar escapes in a hot air balloon but is sucked into a tornado that takes him to the Land of Oz. There he encounters the naïve witch Theodora, who believes him to be the wizard prophesied to become King of Oz by defeating the Wicked Witch, who killed the previous king. The idea of being a wealthy monarch makes Oscar accept the role. En route to the Emerald City, Theodora falls in love with Oscar though he does not reciprocate her feelings. They encounter the flying monkey, Finley, who pledges a life debt to Oscar when he saves him from a lion. Oscar reveals his deception to Finley and forces him to maintain the idea that he is the wizard.

At the Emerald City, Theodora's older sister Evanora tells Oscar that the Wicked Witch resides in the Dark Forest and can be killed by destroying her wand. On the way to the forest they are joined by an orphaned living china doll whose village and family were destroyed by the Wicked Witch. The three reach the forest and discover the "Wicked Witch" is the late king's daughter Glinda the Good Witch, and Evanora is the true Wicked Witch. Evanora sees this with her crystal ball and tricks Theodora into thinking Oscar is trying to court all three witches at once. She offers Theodora a magic apple "to remove her heartache" but it turns her into a hideous green-skinned creature.”

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756102  No.13784575

>>13784551

(Please read from the start)

“Glinda brings Oscar's group to her domain to escape Evanora's army of Winkies and flying baboons. She confides in Oscar that she knows he is not the wizard but still believes he can help stop Evanora. He reluctantly takes charge of an "army" of Quadlings, Tinkers and Munchkins. Theodora enters Glinda's domain and angrily reveals her new hideous appearance to Oscar before threatening to kill him and his allies with the Emerald City's well-prepared army. Oscar despairs at his chances of victory, but after telling China Girl about the exploits of his hero Thomas Edison he conceives a plan that relies on trickery.”

>> “conceives a plan that relies on trickery”: just like what the Bloodlines and Satan do, it’s their M.O.

“Glinda and her subjects mount a fake attack on the Emerald City using a pulley-rig army of scarecrow puppets hidden by thick fog. The witches are tricked into sending their flying baboons through a poppy field that puts them to sleep, but Glinda is captured in the process. Meanwhile, Oscar infiltrates the Emerald City with his allies but apparently abandons them in a hot air balloon loaded with gold, which Theodora destroys with a fireball. As the wicked sisters prepare to kill Glinda, Oscar appears, having faked his betrayal and death. Using a hidden smoke machine and image projector, he presents a giant image of his face as his "true" form and a fireworks display to intimidate the Wicked Witches. Evanora fearfully hides in her castle while Theodora flees on her broom, unable to hurt the "invincible" wizard. Oscar offers to Theodora that she would be welcome to return if she overcomes her wickedness, but Theodora refuses and flies away to the West laughing maniacally, leaving Oscar saddened. China Girl frees Glinda from her restraints with her wand, and she engages Evanora in a magical duel in the throne room. Glinda destroys Evanora's emerald necklace, revealing her true hag-like appearance, and banishes her from the city. Evanora is carried away by a pair of flying baboons as she vows revenge.”

>> Cowards, as always.

“Oscar, now ruler of Oz, uses his projector to sustain the belief that he is a powerful wizard. He presents gifts to his friends: Master Tinker, who helped build his machines, receives Oscar's jackknife while Knuck, the grumpy Munchkin herald, receives a mask with a smiley face; the long-suffering Finley receives Oscar's friendship along with his top hat and China Girl accepts her friends as her new family. Finally, Oscar takes Glinda behind the curtains of his projector, thanks her for making him a better person, and they kiss.”

>> Here, it’s what (((they))) wish = not just to RULE, but to have ABSOLUTE RULE on everyone breathing creature on earth. Ain’t gonna happen.

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21e136  No.13786085

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>>13782350

Is it really William or Chelsea?

Or is it probably Louis XVIII?

Why did Kate wear the same dress as Rosemarie when she gave birth to the son of Satan?

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21e136  No.13786142

>>13786085

And why did they name him Louis of all people?

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70f8f0  No.13791447

>>13784575

(Please read from the start)

Seth is NOT the only “strange” unidentified creature out there. We’ve already seen 2 additional ones in this thread:

1 – The Mishipeshu, also known as the underwater panther – starting page 748.

2 – The Horned Serpent – starting page 750 – has a variant called the Sisiutl – starting page 759.

Anons should re-read what was written about them – starting page 748: It can swim with agility, it has antlers, some have wings, head of a panther etc. Don’t they sound like a tetramorph creature, more like multi-form creature? How do I explain this? I came up with 3 possibilities:

1 – The first one consists of “strange” animals we’ve seen before in this thread that no longer exist nowadays, like the Serpopard. Could the Mishipeshu be one of such creature? Yes, it’s a possibility. They have this animalistic behavior of living in herds and being wild predators like lions, hyenas and wolves. The feline characteristic is a common point between the Mishipeshu and the Serpopards. Both also went extinct in early period after the Great Flood. They were around long enough for people to remember them and capture them in the memory lane; as in depict them on artifacts.

2 – The first point brings me to the second one I’m going to talk about. I’ve also mentioned this before: that it’s suspected (((they))) have been trying to “create” new creatures, experimenting. I’ve mentioned many times that the supposed art of Patricia Piccinini is not imaginative sort of art, but it’s something she has seen. As in these mixed creatures were created in labs and she has seen them. But has anyone thought this is not the first time the Bloodlines have tried to create mixed creatures? What if, before the Flood, the ones whom rebelled, tried to play God and create new life? Since (((they))) couldn’t, (((they))) couldn’t create the “spark of life”, what did (((they))) do? Since (((they))) couldn’t create the “spark of life” (((they))) chose to take what already existed and combine them together, mix them together to create a new type of animals. It’s not the first time (((they))), including (((their))) ancestors, tried to change the genetic composition of living creatures, including humans. Just take a look at those Covid vaccines, I do not need to say more for anons to understand me. Another example is this transgender program they are pushing for so hard. There was also this recent piece of news that “scientists” managed to merge chimp genes with human genes. Creepy, if you ask me.

So if this is done nowadays, and it’s planned….why wasn’t it also done in the past, before the Flood? Ask yourselves the question anons: what can be considered as a crime that cannot be forgiven by God? What if one of those sins was to mix animal genes to human genes = disfiguring God’s children and turning them into monsters? Think about what I’m saying anons, compare with what we know (((their))) current plan is and make up your own mind about what I’m saying.

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70f8f0  No.13791487

>>13791447

(Please read from the start)

So you see anons, I’m unsure where to put such animals as the Mishipeshu. Sometimes, seeing how they are made of several animal parts, I think they might be made by the ancestors of the Bloodlines from before the Flood in some freak lab – yes, just like Frankenstein. Sometimes, I feel like they are part of extinct animals from a pre-historic time that were exterminated by the ThunderBirds because they hurt people. It’s one of the points that I’ve been stuck on for some time and couldn’t advance more. I just hope to get more clues as I continue digging.

3 – The Armor of the Horned Serpent was very puzzling at first. It’s very clear its main attributes were reptilian ones. Like what? Like the serpent/snake form (re-read Native American Horsed Serpent on page 750). Like the petrification ability which I believe is due to poison.The scales are tricky: they can be attributed the reptilian nature, like a cotte of maille he is wearing under the armor (as seen in Wonder Woman 1984 movie). Or the scales can be attributed to fish, which we also know there are aquatic armors.

Then it gets strange with the Horned Serpent armor. We see it has wings, like the ThunderBird. It has horns like the Lamassu. It used to swim like a Fish. As an addition: Mishipeshu was known as the underwater panther = Feline attributes. This addition is also hinted by the Seraphim and the information we got from there.

When I look at it this way, doesn’t this make the Horned Serpent armor a Tetramorph one? And if I add to it the Feline attribute, possibly, it becomes a Quintamorph. It gives me the impression that those 4 other SINGLE attributes were kinda ADDED later on. As if it was not originally with the Horned Serpent armor but added later on.

Then I remembered Clinton presidency days and how rapist Bill used to sell military tech to China. Now look at China, they managed to duplicate some of the tech, didn’t they? Is this ALSO a repeat from the past? By that, I’m wondering if nowadays Bloodlines are not ALSO imitating (((their))) ancestors with technology theft? Which in turn (at least till now) is making me think that there is a possibility the Horned Serpent Clan STOLE armor technology from the other clans and mixed it with (((their))) own original armor = resulting in the Tetramorph armor. Is this why we see the Seraphim Tetramorph depicted like that?

Nergal/Erra provided us with important information = infiltration, deceit and spying occurred back then. This type of work needs times, loads of time in order to gather the type of information you are looking for….which can also include theft of military technology from other clans. When I think about it, it’s very logical to make such a tactical move like stealing your enemy’s strong attributes from their armor tech and integrate it to yours. I think this MIGHT be the case here. Remember the Great Evil one was plotting to take over the throne but it’s clear he and the other plotters were outnumbered and weaker than all the other clans gathered against them. So what did they do back then? They plotted to get stronger via information, planting spies, sabotaging their enemy; and I think their tactic included stealing their enemies technology and integrating it to theirs so they can become stronger during battle.

I’m saying this is a possibility, even though I’m convinced of it. What botherrs me in it is the Lamassu = it had wings. Even when I quickly looked in Hathor from Ancient Egypt, she also was represented sometimes with wings. There is something here, a connection, a link, a puzzle piece that escapes me. It’s even said that the word mother and cow with the Dogon people are the same. Hathor or the Lamassu are NOT a Tetramorph and they are not part of the Evil army; so it means they didn’t steal the wings technology from the ThunderBirds. When checking Horus, it was said that in the earliest age, Hathor was considered as his Mother. It’s obvious there is a link between the ThunderBirds and the Lamassu armor, including the WINGS. But, up till now, I’m unable to figure out or understand the connection. I feel like there is a missing piece I need to find. When and IF I find this piece, it will either confirm the third possibility = Horned Serpent stole tech from other armors - or reject it.

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70f8f0  No.13791507

>>13786142

>>13786085

This is how the children of Darkness interpret things. You are seeing it through (((their))) perspective and understanding.

Let me give you a hint: Anakin Skywalker.

I will be be talking more about this as I progress.

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b77650  No.13798751

File: f31446d1e3e4dd5⋯.png (14.12 KB, 512x512, 1:1, Shen.png)

File: 3d9cd42af92a501⋯.jpg (29.5 KB, 500x330, 50:33, Shen_Ring.jpg)

>>13791487

(Please read from the start)

In page 898, while taking a look at the Egyptian white vulture = Nekhbet, I noticed a detail called the Shen Symbol, which we are going to look at quickly, next. The reason I went down the Seraphim tunnel is because it’s linked to the second artifact (already mentioned that I will talk about 2 artifacts in page 894) with the blasters issue. It’s like a bridge between the 2 digging tunnels. I will tackle the second artifact once I finish with the Shen symbol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_ring

“In ancient Egypt a shen ring was a circle with a line tangent to it, represented in hieroglyphs as a stylised loop of a rope. The word shen itself means, in ancient Egyptian, encircle, while the shen ring represented eternal protection.”

>> Notable: “shen ring represents eternal protection”.

“Shen ring use in iconography

The shen ring is most often seen carried by the falcon god Horus, but was also carried by the vulture goddess Nekhbet. It was used as early as the Third Dynasty where it can be seen in the reliefs from Djoser's Step Pyramid complex.”

>> Both Horus and Nekhbet are birds of prey = ThunderBirds.

“The symbol could be stretched to contain other objects, which were then understood as being eternally protected by the shen ring. In its elongated form the shen ring became the cartouche, which enclosed and protected a royal name.

• The Goddess Heqet, (the 'Frog'), is often seated on a shenu.

• For Eternity, the renpit, papyrus stalk is usually based on top of a Shen ring. See the Egyptian god Huh. (Senusret I has a famous Lintel relief showing this.)

• The shen ring is often attached to various types of staffs, the staff of authority, or power, symbolizing the Eternal authority of that power.

• The Goddess Isis, and the Goddess Nekhbet are often shown kneeling, with their hands resting upon a shenu.

• The Hawk (Horus), and the Vulture (Goddess Mut) have the shenu in their talons, wings outstretched, over the scene portrayed. The "Horus with Outstretched Wings", shenus in its talons, is an example from the Louvre of a Pectoral Brooch, possibly for royalty.

Outside of Egypt, a Tartessian archaeological site, Cancho Roano in southern Spain, has a shen ring shaped altar.”

>> That was pretty short and dry. I want more information.

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b77650  No.13798767

File: 33f41d425521c27⋯.jpg (72.26 KB, 367x352, 367:352, Horus_Shen_Ring.jpg)

File: 94682d5c72ef002⋯.jpg (314.38 KB, 671x915, 11:15, Isis_and_Shen_Ring.jpg)

File: 0063232a3fcb25c⋯.jpg (40.67 KB, 492x325, 492:325, Nekhbet_Shen_Ring.jpg)

>>13798751

(Please read from the start)

http://egyptian-gods.org/egyptian-symbols-shen-ring/

“At first glance, the shen resembles a circle with a perpendicular line tangent to its bottom part. However, when looked at closely, it is a stylized loop of rope with both ends tied together yet still visible. It often has a sun disc at the center of the ring signifying the eternity of creation (as the sun is the believed to be the source of life). Its name is from the Egyptian word shenu that literally means to encircle. Like its elongated form, the cartouche, the shen or shen ring symbolizes infinity and eternity. Similarly, it also functions as a protective device when it is clutched by humans, deities and royalties.”

>> I’m unsure about the explanation given about the Shenu being a symbol of eternity or infinity. I do agree however about it having the function of a protective device. These words fit perfectly.

“The shen is often associated with deities, especially in bird forms, who are seen clutching it. It seen held by Horus in his falcon form and Nekhbet in her vulture form while hovering about the pharaoh protecting him. It may also be seen with Isis as extension of her protective functions on the king. Mut, another vulture goddess, may also be seen grasping the shen in her talons. Hequet may also be seen sitting on the shen. However, the most prominent deity associated with it is the primordial god Huh, who represented and personified infinity and eternity. It is often seen in his sun disc crown popular even until the New Kingdom. It may also be found on the base of the notch palm branches Huh usually holds.”

>> Every single one of them is a ThunderBird.

“The shen is often seen in jewelries like pendants, earrings, rings and even necklaces as a decorative aspect especially in the Middle Kingdom. It is also fairly common in amulets. The shen may also be found in coffins as sarcophagi often seen held by a goddess kneeling on the glyph for gold. During the 26th dynasty and onwards, even mummies of commoners were protected with uninscribed cartouches or shens. The most common materials used for these shens are dark hard stones like diorites and basalt, lapis lazuli. Some had tadpole hieroglyphs that were often used as numerals signifying the number of years the ruling king hoped his life and reign would extend.

The symbolism of shen is evident even in other beliefs and religions as well. It is somewhat similar and related to the Gnostic ouroborus, the wedding rings of Western culture, and the yin-yang of Chinese culture.”

>> I disagree. The Shenu ring has nothing to do with the Ourobouros, the wedding rings and the Yin-Yang. It’s a wrong interpretation. Not because it looks like a loop or ring to us, it means it really is. I think the Shenu ring is some type of weapon held by the ThunderBirds

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1b6232  No.13805634

File: 1b78e00ca05a4a3⋯.jpg (212.22 KB, 657x965, 657:965, Isis_with_Shenu_Ring.jpg)

File: e9b3d9c12ca73fe⋯.jpg (324.09 KB, 1040x693, 1040:693, barcelona_egypt_isis_nepht….jpg)

File: 63cf1553fe716f1⋯.jpg (19.09 KB, 176x218, 88:109, Shenu_ring_above_Solar_Cro….jpg)

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File: cfb4b4bdd0bde66⋯.jpg (3.39 MB, 2991x4000, 2991:4000, Stela_with_man_offering_to….jpg)

>>13798767

(Please read from the start)

We still don’t have much information about the Shenu Ring, apart it was used by the Thunderbirds and it had a protective function. As for it being elongated and turning into the Cartouche, well, I rather not make a judgment on that. And I’m repeating that it’s a misinterpretation when they link it to the symbol of eternity, infinity and Ouroboros etc. That is very wrong and misleading.

I want to check some of the artifacts related to it:

1 – I posted the picture of the first item in the previous page = 933. It’s a pendant with Horus holding 2 Shen rings. I want anons to take a close look at the Ankh represented under the wings of the deity. It’s depicted in the same artifact along with the Shenu ring, yet both look different. So in no shape or form the Ankh symbol is a stretched Shenu ring like some people think it is. That is also a wrong interpretation.

2 – The second and third pictures are of Isis with the Shenu ring. Apparently it’s a rare iconography, I managed to find only 3 of them. The first one is in the previous page and the second with third one are attached with this page. I’m not surprised to see Isis with the Shenu ring because she is linked to the Thunderbirds and as I’ve said before, I think she is some kind of their leader.

3 – In the third artifact where Isis is represented, it’s a relief where Nephthys is also represented. It’s a funerary scene where we can see both goddesses on each side of the deceased and we have a ThunderBird flying over the dead person holding the Shen ring. I think it’s to protect the deceased person.

4 – This picture is of a Shenu ring on top of a Solar Disk Crown. The Ancient Egyptian deities were famous for wearing the Solar Disk Crown (at least most of the deity do). Some researchers interpreted the Shenu ring as a form of the Solar Disk Crown. If it was the Solar Disk Crown then why represent it twice, one on top of the other in this relief? It’s represented like that because it’s not the Solar Disk Crown. It’s something else, it has another meaning.

The only difference on how this specific Shen ring is depicted is that it’s upside down. When we compare it to the others, most of the others have the tangent line on the lower side, not the upper like it’s the case with this one. The reason for it to be this way might because of practical, esthetic reasons since we have 2 circular objects. But after observation of all the pictures (including the pictures I’m attaching with the next page), it seems like the Shen Ring is held by the round/circular end/part. While the tangent line is held towards the “target”/opponent or should I say where it’s going to “shoot”.

5 – The last 2 pictures I’m attaching to this page are of 2 stelas. On both of them, the Shenu ring is depicted between 2 Wedjats = Eye of Horus. We usually have the sun disk with 2 snakes, usually depicted between the 2 Wedjats = representing the Eye of Ra (picture page 69). We already know that the Eye of Ra is a weapon and as I’ve said before, I think the Wedjat’s snake shape is the lightning coming out of the ThunderBird’s blasters that are represented as the Eye of Horus. On these stelas we have the Shen ring depicted in the spot usually reserved for the Eye of Ra (= weapon) and we have the Eye of Horus ( = weapon) represented on each side of it. Anons, it’s clear as day here, on these stelas = the Shen Ring is a weapon used by the ThunderBirds. For me, this iconography is a CONFIRMATION the Shen Ring is a weapon.

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5b57cb  No.13812597

File: 589c61f2c437535⋯.jpg (12.31 KB, 276x183, 92:61, Wedjat_holding_Shenu_Ring.jpg)

File: 7ff82de793a87e7⋯.jpg (171.53 KB, 960x624, 20:13, Horus_Shenu_Ring_Mural.jpg)

File: e2952090e1762e4⋯.jpg (98.3 KB, 640x480, 4:3, sokar_and_anubis_chapel_no….jpg)

File: fdae10faa05bc2f⋯.jpg (112.42 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Kom_Ombo_Goddess_Nekhbet_s….jpg)

>>13805634

(Please read from the start)

6 – As an additional confirmation that the Shen Ring is a weapon, and it’s also linked to the artifacts in point 5 – confirming them as well – is the first picture I’m attaching with this page. We see the Wedjat = Eye of Horus, represented with wings, holding the Shen Ring, same thing in the standard, stereotyped iconography as Horus (second picture with this page) and Nekhbet (page 898) are represented. For me this is confirmation about everything I’ve been saying about the ThunderBirds, the Wedjat and the Shen ring.

7 – The pictures of the famous mural of Nekhbet usually focus on the Vulture deity, omitting/missing/forgetting the row above depicted above her. We have one long row of Wedjat, all represented in the same orientation as the one of the Vulture. We can see 7 of them in this picture but I’m sure their number was much more than this since the design is stretched from wall to wall. In front of each Wedjat we have one Shenu ring represented.

As I’ve said in the previous page, the Shenu Ring is held from the circular end and the tangent line is directed towards the opponent = this is how the Wedjat is holding the Shen ring. It’s amazing. When I see this, I wonder if the Ancient Egyptians, in later generation, understood what both of these symbols are? Can the Lightning (=Wedjat) hold the weapon (=shen ring)? Of course not, because the lightning should come out of the weapon. So I don’t think the later generations, like the ones of the Middle Kingdom, truly, deeply understood what these 2 symbols really represent. I think they only understood these 2 symbols are very powerful and they are used for protection against evil. In both cases it’s true and correct, but these are not deities, but weapons used by Ancient warriors from a long lost and forgotten civilization.

8 – This picture is a depiction of Nekhbet, we’ve seen a close up of it in page 898. Look closely at the Staff the deity is holding and how it goes through the circular side of the Shen ring. The Shen ring was hollow, truly like a ring. I would also like to ask anons to compare the staff Nekhbet is holding to the other staffs we’ve seen worldwide, mostly to the one held by the Staff-God on the Gateway of the Sun in Tiwanaku. In page 361, I said the weapon the Staff-God is holding similar to the Japanese Naginata. Here, it looks more and more like it.

By that I mean it’s a staff that might have some type of blade at the upper section of it. I don’t know what it is for sure. In Gudea’s libation vase it looks like a saber handle, doesn’t it? I don’t know for sure if it’s a type of blade or something else, but whatever it is, there is something on the extremity of that staff. Here, what Nekhbet is holding is no exception = the upper extremity has something on it; it’s not a normal, simple staff type of weapon.

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82f743  No.13814127

File: 4f913a8b47d0fa2⋯.jpg (85.39 KB, 736x387, 736:387, Shenu_symbol_on_Horus_staf….jpg)

File: 89469c59851e48c⋯.jpg (212.83 KB, 701x470, 701:470, Shamash_wheel_Shamash_Sun_….jpg)

File: 298513290ee3179⋯.jpg (63.12 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Tron_Legacy_Disc_Wars_clos….jpg)

File: 4a13c7f1f2bd958⋯.jpg (107.32 KB, 602x401, 602:401, Xena_Combat_Disc.jpg)

>>13812597

(Please read from the start)

9 – The first picture I’m attaching to this page is that of Horus holding the same Staff weapong with the Shen ring as Nekhbet. But what is amazing about it is that we have two, not ONE, Horus depicted. Why represent Horus twice in a row like that, as if one was standing behind the sitting one. So how come we have Horus standing with a weapon, guarding himself sitting and holding the Ankh? Does it make sense to anyone?On top of everything, we have Horus in his Bird form standing, and Horus in his Human form sitting. For me, this is not just a confirmation about the ThunderBirds’ ability to shape shift as we read with the Native Americans about them (starting page 741) = as in they can take off their fighting gear/armor and put it on whenever they want. But it also confirms what was said in the same pages about the presence of MANY ThunderBirds and not just ONE of them.

Ancient Egypt is not the only place we see the Shen Ring. We’ve already seen it before in Mesopotamia, with the relief of Ishatar (page 766). She is winged, has eagle talons, owls on each side of her and she is clearly holding a Shen Ring with her thumbs. As anons can see, the tangent line of the Shen Ring is downward. This is not the Hamsa she is holding anons, but the Shen ring, which was used by the ThunderBirds. Her wings and her feet, along with the birds of prey on each side of her confirm she is a ThunderBird.

Ishtar’s relief is NOT the ONLY one we have from Mesopotamia. There is another deity that is also holding a Shen ring from Mesopotamia and that is Shamash.

On the upper section of the famous Tablet of Shamash, the solar deity is represented seated holding the Shen Ring. In front of him we have the supposed sun “wheel” = his symbol, or what some call the rosette. I’ve already explained this = it is a BEAM of light seen from right under it, and it has lightning surrounding it/coming out of it/swirling around it. I would also like to draw anons, attention to the SIZE of Shamash compared to the other persons in front of him. He is almost double their size, isn’t he?

I keep on wondering what type of weapon is this Shen Ring? Does it emit electricity as well? Fire? Or is it some type of blade weapon? So far, it looks like it’s connected to electricity. When I tried to look at Hollywood to get a hint, I bumped into 2 productions:

1 – Tron (along with Tron:legacy)

2 – Xena (a tv series)

Well anons, I’m not convinced this is it because both lack the tangent line of the Shen Ring and don’t emit electricity. So if anyone reading has any suggestions or can remember any movie with similar weapons or machinery, please share. Nothing is coming to my mind for now apart the 2 I already mentioned.

This ends it for the Shen Ring. If I find more pieces connected to it, I will come back and recheck things out.

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f109e9  No.13815989

File: 2efa3d9842a11ee⋯.png (52.81 KB, 225x225, 1:1, 2ef.png)

>>13814127

who ever did dis , and is doing dis, thank you…..

it has Punch..,

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f109e9  No.13818619

File: d66438a7b8b7fc8⋯.png (321.09 KB, 975x920, 195:184, 0513.png)

File: 177066049bb877e⋯.png (182.75 KB, 474x600, 79:100, 0488.png)

>>13786085

oh yep they all screwed up, horror stories, from horrifying families that cause genocide, to make peeps worship them in one form or another , they are that mentally messed up!

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f109e9  No.13818654

File: 34baad84ffde19d⋯.png (16.65 KB, 543x262, 543:262, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13798751

green horn?

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b161f2  No.13819657

File: e1442bc3ac9cb14⋯.jpg (63.26 KB, 500x667, 500:667, Faience_vessel_with_Bes_ho….jpg)

>>13814127

(Please read from the start)

The second artifact (mentioned page 894) is a faience vase where the god Bes is represented with WINGS. He is holding both of his hands up, palm turned upward and the elbows slightly bent. On his palms 2 Wedjats = Eye of Horus are represented. What got me interested in this iconography is the possibility this is pointing us to where I reached with the Hamsa = Iron man armor blasters. So is the Wedjat we see on Bes hands on this vase the representation of the blasters of his armor? I think it is, so let’s check whom Bes is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bes

“Bes (/ˈbɛs/; also spelled as Bisu), together with his feminine counterpart Beset, is an ancient Egyptian deity worshipped as a protector of households and, in particular, of mothers, children and childbirth. Bes later came to be regarded as the defender of everything good and the enemy of all that is bad. Bes may have been a Middle Kingdom import from Nubia or Somalia, and his cult did not become widespread until the beginning of the New Kingdom.”

>> So he is a late addition to the Ancient Egyptian pantheon. He is a protector and seen as a good deity whom was against everything that is BAD; that’s what is said here.

“Worship of Bes spread as far north as the area of Syria and as far west as the Balearic Islands (Ibiza) in Spain, and later into the Roman and Achaemenid Empires.

Worship

Bes was a household protector, becoming responsible – throughout ancient Egyptian history – for such varied tasks as killing snakes, fighting off evil spirits, watching after children, and aiding women in labour by fighting off evil spirits, and thus present with Taweret at births.”

>> Doesn’t this sound like he is warding off, fighting demons and Horned Serpents? = Evil.

“Images of the deity, quite different from those of the other gods, were kept in homes. Normally Egyptian gods were shown in profile, but instead Bes appeared in full face portrait, ithyphallic, and sometimes in a soldier's tunic, so as to appear ready to launch an attack on any approaching evil. He scared away demons from houses, so his statue was put up as a protector. Since he drove off evil, Bes also came to symbolize the good things in life – music, dance, and sexual pleasure. In the New Kingdom, tattoos of Bes could be found on the thighs of dancers, musicians and servant girls. Many instances of Bes masks and costumes from the New Kingdom and later have been uncovered. These show considerable wear, thought to be too great for occasional use at festivals, and are therefore thought to have been used by professional performers, or given out for rent.”

>> Well, this paragraph says it well: He was a warrior that fought demons. I think his sexual side is intriguing and the festive/theatrical side was a mutation, addition of later period by new generations.

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b161f2  No.13819710

File: 672796f99e269df⋯.jpg (276.42 KB, 1000x1356, 250:339, Bes_Ancient_Egypt_Deity.jpg)

>>13819657

(Please read from the start)

“Later, in the Ptolemaic period of Egyptian history, chambers were constructed, painted with images of Bes and his wife Beset, thought by Egyptologists to have been for the purpose of curing fertility problems or general healing rituals.”

>> Another mutation.

“Like many Egyptian gods, the worship of Bes or Beset was exported overseas. While the female variant had been more popular in Minoan Crete, the male version would prove popular with the Phoenicians and the ancient Cypriots. The Balearic island of Ibiza derives its name from the god's name, brought along with the first Phoenician settlers in 654 BC. These settlers, amazed at the lack of any sort of venomous creatures on the island, thought it to be the island of Bes (<איבשם> ʔybšm, *ʔibošim, yibbōšīm "dedicated to Bes"). Later the Roman name Ebusus was derived from this designation.”

>> ^_^ I have a riddle for anons; let’s see whom can solve this: WHY in MODERN DAY printing and scholars use Hebrew Alphabet/Letters to write the Phoenician text instead of using the Phoenician Alphabet/Letters? Let’s see whom can crack this riddle ^_^

“At the end of the 6th century BC, images of Bes began to spread across the Achaemenid Empire, which Egypt belonged to at the time. Images of Bes have been found at the Persian capital of Susa, and as far away as central Asia. Over time, the image of Bes became more Persian in style, as he was depicted wearing Persian clothes and headdress.”

>> This is a good example of cultural exchange and mutation I talked about starting page 766, when I was explaining about the demography of Carthage.

“Iconography

Modern scholars such as James Romano claim that in its earliest inception Bes was a representation of a lion rearing up on its hind legs. After the Third Intermediate Period, Bes is often seen as just the head or the face, often worn as amulets.

[…]”

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f1f2bc  No.13827578

>>13819710

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Well, that was rather “dry” on information, so I went to look for more: https://www.worldhistory.org/Bes/

“Bes is the ancient Egyptian god of childbirth, fertility, sexuality, humor, and war, but served primarily as a protector god of pregnant women and children. He is regularly depicted as a dwarf with large ears, long-haired and bearded, with prominent genitals, and bow-legged. Usually he is shown holding a rattle but sometimes a snake (or snakes), a knife, or sword. The image of Bes was often positioned at gates for protection and almost always appears outside of birth houses.”

>> He was depicted as a dwarf, bearded with large ears and long-hair = if I include the GIANT Viracocha, as well as Nergal with his pointy ears like an Elf…I’m starting to believe we have actors from Tolkien’s stories. Is this where the “Lord of the Ring” ideas came from?

What he is holding is important: they say he is holding a snake or a rattle, then they say it’s a sword or a knife. So I believe even the snake and the rattle are weapons. The snake here is not evil, it’s the same type of depiction as the Wedjat snake. This is lightning he is holding in his hands = the snakes and the rattles are just that; since the rattle makes sound as if it’s a storm.

“He was also a popular image used in household goods such as mirrors, cosmetic cases, on furniture, and as knife handles. His feminine aspect is Beset who appears in spells to ward off ghosts, dark magic, evil spirits, and demons. Bes himself is actually a demon, more than a god, but that word should not be understood in the modern sense. A 'demon' (from the Greek word daimon) could be a good or bad entity along the lines of the Mesopotamian demon Pazuzu, who likewise presided over pregnant women and infants. Although Bes is frequently associated with his feminine aspect as consort, he is more regularly identified with the goddess Taweret (Tauret), the hippopotamus deity of childbirth and fertility.”

>> One moment is he a children protector, one moment he is a demon and is compared to Pazuzu. So which one is it?

“Origin & Nature

Even though Bes was among the most popular gods of ancient Egypt, no story of his origin has been found. He shares similarities with at least nine other deities, according to Egyptologist Richard Wilkinson, who lists Aha, Amam, Hayet, Ihty, Mefdjet, Menew, Segeb, Sopdu, and Tetetenu along with Bes in near uniformity of role and likeness (102). What set Bes apart from these others, apparently, was his unique character. He was not a god in the same sense that Osiris or Thoth were, had no temple (except one protecting the grapes of the vineyard at the Baharia Oasis), and no formal worship, but was honored in the homes of the Egyptians from the time of the Old Kingdom (c. 2613 - c. 2181 BCE) through the Ptolemaic Dynasty (323-30 BCE) and on into the Roman Empire, although his popularity is most widespread from the New Kingdom of Egypt (1570-1069 BCE) onwards. His role as protector of children expanded to protector of anyone who placed themselves under his care and Egyptian (and later Roman) soldiers had images of Bes inscribed on their shields and would drink from Bes-engraved goblets prior to battle.”

>>Notables: Cult is of unknown origin. It dates back to the Old Kingdom. He was terribly popular among the people.

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f1f2bc  No.13827639

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>>13827578

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“The protective nature of Bes was expressed through his skill as a warrior who fended off evil but was also seen in his lighter side. In keeping with the Egyptian concept of the value of balance, Bes is as often seen in art laughing, dancing, and singing as he shown as a fierce warrior/protector. He was thought to entertain little children with his songs, and if a child were seen smiling or laughing seemingly at nothing, it was thought Bes was the cause. This may appear strange as Bes was most often depicted as an ugly, frowning dwarf who frequently displays his immense genitals, but as Wilkinson writes:

Despite his appearance, which changed in many details over time, Bes was deemed beneficent to humans and he was accepted by all classes of Egyptians as a powerful apotropaic deity [one who wards off evil and protects against bad luck]…Just as the Bes figure subsumed various minor gods and demons, in later times he was himself syncretized with other protective deities, forming the `core' of a composite deity whose elements included Amun, Min, Horus, Sopdu, Reshef and other gods. Mythologically, Bes could also be associated with Ra, Hathor, and Horus - and a female form of the god, Beset, sometimes appears as the mother of Horus. (102)

Although it has been suggested that Bes was originally a Nubian, Libyan, or Syrian deity, this is mainly speculation and, as Wilkinson and other Egyptologists note (Pinch and David among them), is unnecessary effort. The god first appears in art from the Old Kingdom of Egypt, and there seems no compelling reason to seek an origin for him outside of Egypt.”

>> So there is a slight possibility his origin might be from outside of Ancient Egypt, and yet for all of these centuries of Egyptian Studies, all of these Egyptologists, no one bothered to go look to make sure if it’s correct or not.

“Worship & Daily Life

As there was no formal temple or clergy for Bes, neither was there formal worship. People paid homage to Bes in the home or at birth houses where he stood guard. Egyptologist Rosalie David writes:

“Domestic gods were worshipped at a shrine filled with stelae, offering tables, water jars, braziers, and vases in a separate area of the home. Worship at home probably reflected the rituals performed in the great temples and would have included the presentation of food offerings and libations and the burning of incense in front of the god's statue. (Handbook, 118)”

In more modest homes which could not afford stelae, offering tables, and vases, a simple statue of Bes would be placed on an altar and whatever one could afford would be offered. Bes was mainly worshiped through the everyday activities of the people as they went about their business. Bes was often carved onto furniture, for example, and especially beds to protect people (especially children) from evil spirits or ghosts which might come in the night.”

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f1f2bc  No.13827662

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>>13827639

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“Wilkinson notes how "the vast range of objects upon which Bes was depicted and the large number of his images and amulets demonstrate his great popularity as a household deity" (104). He appears on unguent jars, headrests, amulets, bracelets, couches, beds, chairs, mirrors, knives, and many other household items. He has been found in the ruins of the palace of Amenhotep III at Malkata and in the workmen's houses at Deir el-Medina. Rosalie David notes how the two most popular gods worshiped at Deir el-Medina were Bes and Taweret who appear frequently together in art found in the most modest to the grandest homes in that area (Handbook,118).

David points out how Bes was integral in the most basic aspects of life as a god of "love, marriage, dancing, and jollification" who also "assisted at childbirth and protected the young and weak" (Handbook, 118). As part of his duties, he was entrusted with encouraging toilet training in the young and also taught both boys and girls to be brave, to fight for justice, but also to enjoy life and sing and dance. He further could influence a boy's occupation in that a child (almost always male) who had the same short and chubby body type as Bes was thought to have been chosen by the gods as a Merchant Priest, a member of the clergy who monitored the goods which came into and went out from the temple. Bes was considered a protector of these goods and Merchant Priests were often Bes-like in body type. He also encouraged girls in their domestic duties and, like Bastet, guarded their secrets and protected their health.

Bes & Women's Interests

Bes was originally, and remained chiefly, the god of pregnant women and childbirth. Women who were experiencing difficulty in conceiving would visit a Bes Chamber (also known as an incubation chamber) at a site such as the Temple of Hathor at Dendera where they would spend the night in the god's presence. In the time of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, these Bes Chambers were decorated with images of a naked Bes with an erect phallus and a naked goddess to encourage fertility and healing. Women regularly used or carried objects engraved with the god's likeness and even had images of him tattooed on their bodies. Egyptologist Geraldine Pinch writes:

“Egyptian "old wives" probably told stories about the antics of Bes, but they do not survive in the written record. The evidence for dwarf deities is mainly pictorial. They appear on magical objects, bedroom furniture, and items used to contain or apply makeup. Bes amulets and figurines were popular for over 2,000 years. Some women even decorated their bodies with Bes tattoos to improve their sex life or fertility. (118)”

From the New Kingdom onwards, Bes became increasingly depicted in the company of the pregnant Taweret in images celebrating birth and fertility. Pinch notes, "Bes and Taweret were also the guardians of the divine infants worshipped in the Birth Houses of temples of the first millennium BCE. Temple and magical texts give Bes or Bes-Shu the role of opening the womb to allow a child to be born" (119). These birth houses were a regular aspect of temples all over Egypt and featured statuary or inscriptions of Bes outside and wall paintings of Bes and Taweret inside. One of the best-known images of Bes, in fact, comes from the birth house at the Temple of Hathor at Dendera. Scenes from these birth houses were often painted on the walls of homes and even appear on the walls of the worker's house at Deir el-Medina to encourage fertility and ensure protection.”

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f1f2bc  No.13827715

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>>13827662

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“Female musicians regularly carried amulets of Bes or had tattoos of the god to inspire their art. Prostitutes also were tattooed with images of Bes as Egyptologist Joyce Tyldesley notes: "Prostitutes used their musical skills to entice their clients and a link between music, feminity, sex, and even childbirth is suggested by the Bes tattoos on musical prostitutes's thighs" (130). Priestesses, dancers, and musicians would also tattoo themselves with images, however, and scholars disagree on whether it was primarily prostitutes who decorated themselves with images of Bes or this was a practice observed by women in the arts and Egyptian religion generally. The dancer Isadora of Artemisia (c. 206 CE), for example, was a famous castanet dancer who had a tattoo of Bes on her thigh. Isadora was a free woman and a highly paid artist who commanded a price of thirty-six drachmas a day, travel expenses, insurance for her wardrobe and jewelry, and meal expenses. No records indicate in any way that she was a prostitute.

Bes in his feminine form, as noted, was frequently associated with Hathor and, by this link, to the concept of the Distant Goddess. The Distant Goddess was a deity who left her home to go on an adventure - usually against the wishes of her father - and then returned or was brought back and, by this action, initiated some kind of transformation. Bes is seen in depictions as a monkey, entertaining the goddess upon her return, or as the goddess herself. The transformative aspect of Bes and his fearsome appearance define him as a 'trickster god' - one who may appear harmful but has humanity's best interests at heart.”

>> So Bes had a fearsome appearance which may have made him look harmful but he had humanity’s best interest at heart. This is interesting and it’s reminding me of the Staff-God/ Viracocha. The Andean deity used to wear a mask in order to hide his face. This act of wearing a mask always made me wonder why Viracocha/Staff-God did that? What’s the purpose of wearing a mask? Did he look as fearsome as Bes did? But the Andean deity was a Giant and here, Bes is a dwarf. The more I read about Bes, the more I feel like I’m reading “The Lord of the Ring” book.

“The Divine Guardian

Bes was frequently called upon in a person's youth for protection, either by a parent, guardian, or by one's self. The Magical Lullaby of ancient Egypt was a spell a mother or older sister would sing to ward evil spirits away from a sleeping child, and Bes was sometimes invoked along with this poem for maximum protection. Mothers would draw an image of Bes on their child's left hand and wrap the hand in cloth blessed by the temple so the child would have pleasant dreams. The image of Bes on the hand associated with the dream world would drive away any spiritual elements which might give the child nightmares.

Just as Bes guarded one in one's sleep, he was there throughout one's day encouraging, enlivening, and protecting. Wilkinson notes the work of scholar James Romano who demonstrated that "the origin of the Bes iconography is most likely to be found in the image of a male lion rearing up on its hind paws" (102). The lion was one of the earliest zoological images for the power of the gods and the forces of nature. The suggestion that Bes originated from lion imagery makes sense when one considers how the lion was used in iconography throughout Egyptian history. The lion always symbolizes divine or temporal power, protection, majesty, and vitality. Bes, the shaggy-maned dwarf, may lack the dignity of a lion in many of his depictions but certainly embodies the elements the Egyptians believed lions symbolized. In sleep or awake, throughout one's life, Bes was always watching out for people, protecting them, and encouraging them to do their best in life.”

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f1f2bc  No.13827762

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>>13827715

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>> Well, I guess anons have guessed it right if they think I disagree with the interpretation given about Bes’ iconography origin in the last paragraph. IF, I repeat = IF Bes’ iconography is one of a Lion = Feline, I don’t think it had to do with the animal, but with the warrior wearing a Feline armor; just like the iconography we had from Mesopotamia and yes, even in Mesoamerica and the Andean Region where Panther warriors existed.

There are additional interesting artifacts representing Bes, apart the faience vessel on page 937.

1 - The first one is an amulet (1070-712 B.C.) at the Metropolitan Museum. Look at the feathered headdress he is wearing anons. Sure it’s from the New Kingdom era, but it does line up with the other headdresses we’ve seen in this thread in other cultures and civilizations.

2 – In the second picture we see Beset and Bes on a relief; it’s in the Louvre. He is wearing a feathered headdress. He also has on his shoulders a Feline Skin; with what looks like a Feline head on his chest = either it’s a medallion or probably it’s the head of the Feline Skin he’s got on his shoulders. The extension we see between his legs is the tail of the Feline Skin he has on his shoulders = not to be mixed with his genitals. I don’t know how many of you know this but in Ancient Egypt the high priests used to wear a Feline Skin on top of their tunic, as a sign of their rank; so it’s not unusual to see it in Ancient Egypt. But this doesn’t mean this is the case for Bes.

This could mean (it’s a possibility) he is originally a warrior wearing a Feline Armor. This is supported by him having his right arm up in the air, brandishing what looks like a sabre or a sword of some type = warrior stance. It fits with his protector image, doesn’t it? He might be holding something in his left hand as well, that seems to be extending a rope shape. But it’s broken, so it’s undetermined.

As for Beset with the drum (despite the damaged part) next to him: don’t forget anons, the duo was considered the deities for celebrations and festivities. Take a closer look at Beset: she is wearing the same Feline Skin with the tail dangling like with Bes. Just compare for yourselves.

There are many reliefs of the same type representing Bes, with variation, if anons want to check them online. It’s like a stereotyped representation of him.

3 – On the Limestone stela (at the British Museum) Bess is represented in the same stance as we saw him in the previous relief, but 3 times in a row = big size – additionally, we have the same representation of him but in a smaller size next to the 3 bigger ones. This stela was broken, but it’s obvious there is second of the same small size next to it as well = as in 3 big size Bes + 2 smaller size Bes. Here everything is clear = the feathered headdress he is wearing on his head, the sword he is brandishing up high. He doesn’t have on his shoulders here a feline skin.

What is he holding his is left hand anons? Is that a rope? A slight possibility it’s the Shenu Ring? Or maybe it’s a form of a snake/serpent. He is a protector after all that kills evil spirits.

4 – The next artifact is a statuette of Bes with his feathered headdress trimmed and topped with the bust of a bird of prey = Horus maybe. Is this indicating Bes was a ThunderBird or should I say on friendly terms with the ThunderBirds = on the same side as them?

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0c7eae  No.13829299

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>>13827762

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5 – The next artifact is one of many of the same type; as if it is another stereotyped representation. Most seem to date of later times. Those are stelas with Horus, as a child or youngster, represented in the middle/ center of the design, standing on either Nile Crocodiles HEADS or sometimes Big Snakes HEADS (depending on which stela you are working on). I want to draw the attention of the reader that royal family male young members, mostly the princes are represented like Horus is here = same hairdo. In page 97, I put a picture of the “Kings List” from the Dendera Temple, where we can see Seti I and young Ramses (future Ramses II) making offerings. Compare young Ramses hair style with what we see on this stela = it’s the hairdo reserved for children and teens = not adult yet.

On each side of Horus, there is a staff represented. But the top end of each staff is different than the other: The one on the right hand of Young Horus has a crowned eagle on top, while the one on the left hand of Young Horus has a Papyrus flower with 2 columns coming out of its upper end; a possibility 2 rays of light = my interpretation.

Bes is represented either entirely standing behind young Horus or we see only his head kinda floating alone above Horus – depending on which stela you are working on since there are so many of them. From the way Bes is always represented, it’s clear he is playing the role of guardian or protector of the youngster; which fits perfectly with what he is believed to be = a protector of children.

What is amazing in this stereotyped iconography is what young Horus is holding on his hands. From the upper side of both fists we see 2 snakes/serpents coming out upwardly, facing outward. A lot will quickly jump on it and say these are snakes. I say NO they are not. They look like snakes, but they are representing LIGHTNING actually; just like what the Wedjat is.

On the lower side of the right hand fist Horus is holding a miniature Antelope and a Scorpion both from their tails. On the lower part of his left fist he is holding a miniature feline with its tail, sometimes we have a scorpion there along with the feline.

I think each animal represents one of the warrior clans and along with them their armors. Yes! These are clan heraldic symbols that even represents the armors of each clan. It’s normal for each clan to have its own symbols. I think this hold a very important and significant meaning = HORUS is the leader of these animals; as in the ThunderBirds lead the other warrior factions, like the feline, scorpion and the Antelope. Anons, just a thought: Is the Lamassu and the Antelope one and the same? Is this why the Lamassu is sometimes represented with wings?= because they fall under the leadership of the ThunderBirds? Or is it the other way around? We do have a connection between Hathor and Horus, but I still don’t fully grasp it yet. Also don’t forget that the Scoprion protected Isis when she fled to protect Horus from Seth’s wrath.

As I’ve said before, there are many of these stelas, so there are variations from one to another. I’m just giving a general description, like a standard one for all. If anons are interested, they can check out the rest on the net and see the difference between each of them.

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0c7eae  No.13829328

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>>13829299

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The last 2 artifacts representing Bes are a bit similar when depicting him = he’s standing in the same way.

6 – He is represented at the center of a Stela which dates back to the Roman times (if my memory is not betraying me). Bes is represented facing us from the waist up; while from waist down he is represented from the side = de coté. He is wearing a short tunic and sandals on his feet. He’s also got an elaborate crown on his head = Roman style. He’s got the usual feline skin on his shoulder and where the feline skin legs cross on his chest, it’s not that clear from this picture, but it’s either tied in a knot or the traditional feline face we usually have there has been reduced to the size of a medallion.

What’s amazing about this stela of Bes are 3 details:

A – He’s got 2 pairs of arms.

B – He’s got 2 pairs of wings, maybe even 3.

C – He is standing on an Ouroboros.

A-The Arms: The first pair of arms Bes has is depicted stretched upward horizontally, at the level of his shoulders. Both his hands are closed into fists where he is holding one flail in each hand. The flails are oriented upwards and inwardly.

The second pair of arms is lowered. His right hand is depicted parallel to his body and his hand closed in a fist where he seems to be holding some type of weapon. That weapon is a bit strange. It starts out from his hand as a club/ handle, then at the extremity of the club it makes a 90 degrees angle downward with what seems/looks like to be some sort of blade. If we compare this with Bes’ other iconography from various artifacts, we will notice he usually holds some type of sword, mostly a sabre in his right hand. So I don’t see why this weapon should be different from the standard/stereotyped iconography = Bes holding a sabre in his right hand. It’s just represented via Roman style, not Ancient Egyptian.

His left arm is bent = not parallel to the body and in the closed fist of his left hand he is holding multiple objects. It’s clear he is holding a staff type of weapon. The upper end of this staff has a shape: it’s a bit hard to identify what it is with the picture that I’ve got, but I’m leaning towards this being a bird of prey; like a falcon or vulture etc. something of the sort. Coming out upwards from his left fist, on the right side of the staff weapon, a scorpion is depicted parallel to the length of Bes arm, till his elbow level. It’s a bit tricky to see but it’s definitely a scorpion. Below is left fist, there are 2 other animals represented on each side of the staff weapon: there is an antelope held by its horns on the right side of the staff; while on the left side there is a feline held from its tail. This is the same idea in the representation as we saw in the previous artifact where a young Horus is depicted holding such animals in his fists. I don’t think these represent real animals but are heraldic symbols.

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0c7eae  No.13829387

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>>13829328

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B- The Wings: For certain Bes got 2 pairs of wings that are stretched out, depicted one on top of the other, parallel and under his stretched out arms. It’s as if these wings are attached to the stretched out arms. This reminds me of the Elamite artifact we saw on page 807. But there is a tricky part with the wings = it can be folded wings or it can the falcon tail depicted behind his right leg. A visual comparison with an actual bird should solve this issue.

Another troubling detail is “something curved” depicted between the right leg and the tail/folded wing. I’m not certain, but it’s possible this is the tail of the feline skin he’s got on his shoulders.

Seeing Bes represented with many wings bring the Seraphim back to mind and what was said about the number of wings indicating the rank of the angel/warrior. So does this indicate Bes’ rank? Do not forget anons that this is a Roman time representation of Bes where the Bloodlines were in control of the Empire. So be careful while working on this.

C – The Ouroboros: The entire scene is taking place with Bes standing on a long serpent which has its own tail in its mouth = the Ouroboros. This a definitive sign of the Bloodlines. This Ouroboros is encircling some miniature animals. I can see 6 of them but since the picture isn’t clear, that number not definitive. Some have 4 legs. It’s obvious these are heraldic animals = representing either persons or clans/families. Since they are depicted in the Ouroboros could these animals represent some of the Bloodline families within the Roman Empire? It’s possible, isn’t it?

I want to remind anons that we are dealing with the representation of Bes during the Roman times as in a mutation and a mutilation of his cult might have occurred just like it was the case with Isis and Osiris. But this artifact also highlights the presence of the Bloodlines within the Roman Empire.

7 – The last artifact is a bronze statuette of a naked Bes in a walking stance. This is his traditional representation in Ancient Egypt, recognizable thanks to the feathered crown he is wearing on his head; which is very different from the crown we saw him wearing in the previous artifact, dating from the Roman times. Here again, Bes is represented with 2 pairs of wings: same as previous artifact. He also has 2 pairs of arms as well. One is stretched as the previous artifact while the second pair is lowered, parallel to his body. We doesn’t see him holding any weapons, they might have deteriorated or broken.

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0c7eae  No.13829424

>>13829387

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When it comes to Bes, it seems he is from the Feline warrior clan since he is always depicted with a feline skin on his shoulders. But it’s tricky to guess where he stands as in if he is with the ThunderBirds warriors or the Horned Serpent warriors.

On one hand he is considered as the killer of evil spirits as well as the protector of children from the demon whom wants to eat them. There are also many stelas with him protecting a young Horus whom we know had to flee along with his mother in order to escape Seth. Bes is also thought of being a joyful, party loving deity whom liked to drink (keeps on reminding me of the dwarf from Lord of the Ring). He was not considered as a doom and gloom deity of the underworld as it was the case with Nergal. Despite the fact that Bes was a warrior, he was never associated with carnage, massacre and plague as it’s the case of most Horned Serpent warriors. He also uses the Sharur = Staff weapon when fighting, along with a blade type of weapon = mostly a sabre. He is aso depicted with a ThunderBird bust on top of his head on last artifact of page 943. Can we consider this as an indication he was siding with the ThunderBirds?

On the other hand, Bes uses the hamsa (artifact page 937) = blasters on the palms just like the Horned Serpent does. He is also compared to Pazuzu and is said to be a scary looking dwarf. He also has many wings in later Roman times, reminding of the Seraphim.

The iconography we have of him from Roman times indicates that the Bloodlines “hijacked” him; (((they))) could have recognized he was an Atlantean feline warrior whom survived the cataclysm. His iconography during the Roman times changed a lot: his stereotyped feathered crown changed but mostly it’s the presence of the Ouroboros; while if we look how he was depicted during Ancient Egypt, the Ouroboros wasn’t there. That was added later on during the Roman times, maybe even a bit sooner during the Ptolemaic dynasty = but it doesn’t matter since both were run by factions of the Bloodlines. It seems, from the look of it, that the addition of the Ouroboros to the iconography of Bes is a mutation and a mutilation of his cult during the Roman times, just like what happened with Isis cult during the Ptolemaic and Roman times.

I don’t see Bes as being part of the Horned Serpent warriors or as their ally. On the contrary, I see him as a fierce Feline warrior whom excelled in fighting the Horned Serpent warriors. What I cannot figure out about him is the hamsa and reason the Roman time Bloodlines “hijacked” him – a case similar to what happened with the cult of Isis during the Roman times. Bes used to battle the evil spirits and demons whom used to eat children. We know from Sisiutl (page 763), he used to guard an ogress whom used to devour children. Nergal was famous for his bloodbaths and massacres as it was mentioned in the Epic of Erra (page 786). This is not the case with Bes, it’s the opposite = he used to fight such warriors.

So now I’m wondering how the hamsa blasters got to Bes. Did the Feline armor had hand blasters as was the case for the Horned Serpent armor? Do we have 2 clans with the same hand blasters? Yes, it’s a possibility. Another possibility might be that the Horned Serpent warriors might have stolen the hand blaster tech from the Feline warriors. But seeing how current day Bloodlines and cult members are so into the hamsa and it’s only worn by the higher ups (page 772), I’m inclined to think the hamsa as a Horned Serpent symbol. Seeing Bes with hamsa on hands might not mean the blaster but it could mean he was holding the lightning just like Wonder Woman was doing in page 798. In Ancient Egyptian iconography, the electrical current was represented as the Wedjat = Eye of Horus and the Snake form from the Uaerus. So maybe Bes didn’t have blasters on his palm but was holding electricity in his hands just like it’s the case of Wonder Woman.

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348642  No.13834228

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>>13829424

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Next I want to take a look at Pazuzu to see why he was linked to Bes in the Wikipedia page despite the fact that they had nothing in common: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu

“In ancient Mesopotamian religion, Pazuzu (Akkadian: Dpà.zu.zu; also called Fazuzu or Pazuza) was the king of the demons of the wind, brother of Humbaba and son of the god Hanbi. He also represented the southwestern wind, the bearer of storms and drought.”

>> Compare what is written here about Pazuzu and what is written about the Native American Horned Serpent on page 750 = both manipulated storms, rain etc. If the Horned Serpent warriors stole the technology from the ThunderBirds, then it’s natural for them to have the same “effects” as the ThunderBirds.

A lot of researchers (either professionals or amateurs) make with Pazuzu the same mistake made with the Lamassu. A lot think this is Assyrian but it’s not. Just like with the Lamassu, Pazuzu reached its apogee during the Assyrian times. But the word is FOR SURE AKKADIAN and it’s suspected to have Sumerian origins. So be careful while working on this.

“Iconography

Pazuzu is often depicted as a combination of diverse animal and human parts. He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, talons of an eagle, two pairs of wings, a scorpion's tail and a serpentine penis. He has his right hand up and left hand down.”

>> Remember Mishipeshu (page 748) from the Native Americans? Remember the Horned Serpent (page 750) from the Native Americans? Remember the Sisiutl (page 759) from the Native Americans? Remember Seth (page 809) from Ancient Egypt? Recheck everything, re-read and compare yourselves anons. It’s clear there are various common elements scattered among them, but there is a lot in common between all of them, mostly the fact that they are all Tetramorphs (like the Seraphim p.901) or maybe I should say Multi-morphs. The only 2 new elements we have is the type of the tail = Scorpion’s tail (was this tech stolen from the Scorpion clan warriors armor?) and a serpentine penis which denotes a sexual component to them.

One thing is for sure: loads of historians, archaeologists and researchers worldwide had made the mistake to believe all of these Horned Serpents were one person seen (a bit differently sometimes) in different cultures/civilizations. No one guessed this is not ONE person, but MANY = a squadron of evil warriors wearing all the same armors and they are spread all over the world.

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348642  No.13834236

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>>13834228

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While taking a look at the iconography of Pazuzu, I noticed he had “circles” (two of them) on his chest – picture in previous page. No, no, these are not female breasts. But we’ve seen them before in this thread: with the Seraphim (page 924 – second picture), with the Horned Serpent (page 753 – second picture + page 755 – Horned Serpent on pottery, circles on wing). It also reminds me of Havoc from X-men mentioned in page 900.

I would like to ask anons to take a look at the picture I’m attaching with this page of Pazuzu. Notice his boots? Now compare with Ishtar relief on page 766 please. They are identical, aren’t they? These are the boots worn by the ThunderBirds warriors that the Horned Serpent warriors probably stole the tech and integrated it to their own armor.

“Mythology

Pazuzu is the demon of the southwest wind known for bringing famine during dry seasons, and locusts during rainy seasons. Pazuzu was invoked in apotropaic amulets, which combat the powers of his rival, the malicious goddess Lamashtu, who was believed to cause harm to mother and child during childbirth. Although Pazuzu is, himself, considered to be an evil spirit, he drives and frightens away other evil spirits, therefore protecting humans against plagues and misfortunes.”

>> Now this is the most twisted contradiction I’ve ever seen in my life: according to this paragraph you fight evil by bringing upon it a bigger evil. Isn’t this twisted? Pazuzu is the king of demons but he is liked and nice because he is more evil than the malicious goddess Lamashtu. Are you kidding me? Whom wrote this? He protects humans from plagues, but he brings locust, famine and drought. Is this a joke? Something is very wrong here.

Also it’s interesting how Pazuzu, a Horned Serpent, is mentioned with an evil goddess whom used to harm children. We’ve seen Sisiutl guarding the ogress Dzunukwa whom used to eat children (page 763).

“In modern popular culture

• In the 1971 novel The Exorcist and the film based on the novel, Pazuzu is supposedly the evil spirit that possesses the young girl Regan MacNeil. He reappears in the 1977 sequel Exorcist II: The Heretic. In this film, Pazuzu is both named as the demon antagonist of Regan and the unwitting helper of Father Philip Lamont (Richard Burton), as he seeks to free Regan from the demon's grip. Pazuzu also appears in the TV series The Exorcist and is integrated into the adult Regan MacNeil, played by Geena Davis.

• William S. Burroughs invokes Pazuzu in the dedication for his novel Cities of the Red Night.”

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348642  No.13834296

>>13834236

(Please read from the start)

• “Pazuzu is mentioned in the Simon Necronomicon, a publication of Avon Books that purports to document incantations to invoke "incredible things, beings, and monsters into visible form". He is described therein as "Lord of all fevers and plagues, grinning Dark Angel of the Four Wings, horned, with rotting genitalia", and as the "brother of HUMWAWA". The book claims that he is among the most fearsome of all entities, stating in part: "It is the able magician indeed who can remove PAZUZU once he has laid hold of a man, for PAZUZU lays hold unto death." Although the book makes the claim that Pazuzu (like all entities listed therein) was of Sumerian origin, critics John Wisdom Gonce III and Daniel Harms document the erroneous nature of such a claim, stating: "Likewise, the demon Pazuzu does not appear in myth until Assyria's rise in the first millennium B.C., long after Sumer's prime … Thus the beings of the Simon Necronomicon bear little resemblance to either Sumerian myth or Lovecraftian fiction."

• Pazuzu is the demon that allegedly haunts Adèle Blanc-Sec in Tardi's graphic novel The Demon of the Eiffel Tower (Le Démon de la tour Eiffel, 1976). Pazuzu also appears in "Mummies on Parade" ("Momies en folie", 1978).

• Pazuzu is a recurring playable demon in the Megami Tensei series and serves as a major character in Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei II.

• Pazuzu is featured in the 2014–15 NBC television series Constantine in a two-part episode "The Saint of Last Resorts". The protagonist, John Constantine, summons Pazuzu to combat Lamashtu, the primary antagonist of the first part, and later willingly allows Pazuzu to possess him to save himself from another powerful demon. However, Pazuzu has no wish to leave his new host, and emerges whenever Constantine is in danger, causing the deaths of at least eight dangerous gangbangers. Luckily, Constantine's ally Anne-Marie is able to exorcise Pazuzu by the end of the second part.

• The podcast The Black Tapes, episode 108, explores a demon board called the "Zuzu" or Pazuzu board, designed to summon Pazuzu to the human world.

• Pazuzu (voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson) made an appearance in a 2017 episode of The Simpsons, "Treehouse of Horror XXVIII", possessing Homer, (briefly) Maggie (until the end) and Bart (at the end) in a spoof of The Exorcist.

• In the 1992 SNES game Mystic Quest: Legend, Pazuzu appears as a boss character guarding the Crystal of Air. In this portrayal, he takes the form of a winged humanoid with a bird's head.

• Pazuzu is referenced in the name of a Finnish band Oranssi Pazuzu.

• Pazuzu is Professor Farnsworth's gargoyle in Futurama. He put Pazuzu through college, though Pazuzu proves ungrateful.

• A statue of Pazuzu is present on the cover of the Gorillaz album ‘’D-Sides’’, and also makes a prominent appearance in the music video of the song “Rock It”.”

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6baca0  No.13842025

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>>13834296

(Please read from the start)

There are 3 notables from the Pazuzu Wikipedia page. I’m going to check all of them; some digging tunnels lead in different directions than others and are LONG. My first stop is going to be Humbaba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbaba

“In Ancient Mesopotamian religion, Humbaba (𒄷𒌝𒁀𒁀 Assyrian spelling), also spelled Huwawa (𒄷𒉿𒉿 Sumerian spelling) and surnamed the Terrible, was a monstrous giant of immemorial age raised by Utu, the Sun. Humbaba was the guardian of the Cedar Forest, where the gods lived, by the will of the god Enlil, who "assigned [Humbaba] as a terror to human beings. Gilgamesh and Enkidu defeated this great enemy."

>>Humbaba was raised by the Sun as in he is a child of the Sun, just like Viracocha was. He is a giant as in big in size just like Viracocha was. He is said to be some type of monster, but this also reminds me of how Viracocha used to hide his face behind a mask; always making me wonder why he did that. He was of immemorial age as in he was incredibly old = he was of antediluvian age = as in he was not hundreds but thousands of years old. I want to attract anons attention to this specific point = living for many thousands of years not a few decades like we humans do nowadays. This is a common point in many myths and legends worldwide where it is said that people or deities used to live for an extremely long time and not just a few decades, mostly live to be a hundred years old. So what happened to change that? How did we get from living for so long to living for so short? Think about it anons.

Enlil assigned Humbaba as a guarding of the Cedar Forest. Humbaba was a terror and danger to mankind. I want to remind anons that it was the same Enlil that conspired with other gods and plotted the destruction of mankind. Anyone apart me find Enlil a human hating deity? We have Enlil (as well as the other gods from Mesopotamia) sometimes portrayed in a good light and sometimes portrayed in a bad light.

I think this is due to 2 factors:

1 – The texts that we have in our hands nowadays are incomplete = fragments and we have big chunks of them missing.

2 – Starting from the Akkadian period and mostly the Assyrian and the Babylonian period, huge misinterpretation occurred of many Mesopotamian deities, mixing their image and mixing the bad with the good; which ended up in projecting this double take, confusing image we currently have of them. Like Enlil, was he a ThunderBird, was he a Horned Serpent or was he a Traitor ThunderBird? I’ve been unable to see through many of the Mesopotamian gods; as in unable to decide which side they are on because of this confusion.

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6baca0  No.13842053

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>>13842025

(Please read from the start)

I have 4 options in front of me when they are concerned:

A- They are ThunderBirds.

B- They are Horned Serpents.

C- They are Traitor ThunderBirds.

D- They are Traitor Horned Serpents (but I think this option is super weak since most Horned Serpents were evil).

So which is it? I don’t want to get into this for now because it’s a huge labyrinth, EXTREMELY complex and I rather stay in the main pipe and continue straight on to my targets cited in the introduction: Origins, Atlantis and After the Flood. But I do hope someone reading will get interested and try to figure out which deity was what = good, evil or a spy for one of them? This is going to be an incredibly difficult task though. I’ve tried to see through some deities already like Nergal, Ninghishzida, Isis, Bes etc. And anons shouldn’t rely on the later period information. I think they should focus on Sumerian + Akkadian for Mesopotamia. If you are working on Ancient Egypt, there, the deities are easier to figure out, for most of them anyway, but it’s better to stick to the Old Kingdom + early Middle Kingdom+ pre-dynastic Ancient Egypt if information is available.

I would also like to caution anons researching this about the POSSIBILITY of a Horned Serpent fighting another Horned Serpent: since these guys are evil and are thirsty for power, it might be two of them fighting one another over power, dominance and wealth. Envy, greed, spite and jealousy can play a big role in a combat. If you want to understand what I mean, please take a look at this short clip from the Lord of the Ring trilogy where the orcs fight and how they behave because of greed. So anons don’t be surprised to discover some Horned Serpent warriors behaving like these orcs and fighting one another for greed or power, mostly after the fall of their master = the Evil One.

This type of behavior is not new or unseen. We read about it a lot in novels and even in history. The best example I can give the reader is Alexander the Great. When he suddenly died and the princess Roxane was pregnant with his child, his generals got greedy. They decided to divide the huge NEW EMPIRE into sections and placed themselves as a temporary “governor” of a section = self nominated, till the birth of the heir occurs. But the general were rivals with one another and they fought one another to get the “best” chunk of the Empire. Even after the birth, short life, then the death of Alexander’s son = heir, the rivalry between the ex-generals never stopped and the fight kept on going for whom’s going to control what. All of this lasted for 40 years approximately (after the death of Alexander) and it’s more intertwined than spaghetti. Loads of intrigues and plotting took place. Loads of alliances were made and broken: one day your ally became your foe; the maps kept on changing as the borders kept on shifting. This period of time is probably one of the most complex and unstable one during Antiquity, it’s known as the Diadochi wars. All of this is the result of the greed of Alexander’s generals. So if anons encounter such situation with the Horned Serpents while researching, they shouldn’t be surprised at all.

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0247e1  No.13844507

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>>13842053

(Please read from the start)

As for Humbaba being the guardian of the Cedar Forest, this does not mean the place is evil. It only means Humbaba was living in that geographic location. Do not forget anons that the Horned Serpents, just like the ThunderBirds, were scattered all over the world and not concentrated in one location.

“Description

His face is that of a lion. "When he looks at someone, it is the look of death." "Humbaba's roar is a flood, his mouth is death and his breath is fire! He can hear a hundred leagues away any [rustling?] in his forest! Who would go down into his forest!" In various examples, his face is scribed in a single coiling line like that of the coiled entrails of men and beasts, from which omens might be read.”

>> This paragraph is truly amazing because it’s identical to what we read with the Native American’s Mishipeshu (page 748), the Horned Serpent (page 750), the Sisiutl (page 760) and Pazuzu (page 948). His “breath of fire” reminds me of the spear of fire held by Seth (starting page 809) and it also reminds me of the fiery aspect of the Seraphim. The last sentence is disgusting, but I’m wondering if this specific Horned Serpent warrior a.k.a. Humbaba wasn’t injured in the face and was sporting bandages. Just a thought, I might be totally wrong here.

“Another description from Georg Burckhardt's translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh says, "he had the paws of a lion and a body covered in thorny scales; his feet had the claws of a vulture, and on his head were the horns of a wild bull; his tail and phallus each ended in a snake's head.”

>> No need for me to repeat what I said before about Humbaba being similar to the Horned Serpent warriors in other parts of the world. But I would like to point out we’ve got some different details from one tale to another: sometimes the tail is that of a snake, sometimes that of a scorpion. But does it really matter what it truly is? I think the armor of the Horned Serpents was a composite one with stolen tech from other warrior clans and integrated into it. They might have stolen the tail from the scorpion clan armor technology or it might have been originally part of the Horned Serpent armor. If the Horned Serpents needed to steal tech from the Scorpion armor, then this mean not all the Scorpion warriors supported the Horned Serpents. Nergal is starting to look more and more like a traitor to the Scorpion clan and a spy for the Horned Serpent clan. This is how the Horned Serpent armor became Tetramorph or should I say multi-morph, exactly identical situation as the Seraphim. See why Kabbalah adores the Seraphim and the Hamsa? And both are at the core of Judaism. Amazing coincidence! That is…if you believe in coincidence.

As for the phallus being a snake/serpent. I don’t think here it truly represents the animal = snake. Here, I think it’s symbolic. When I take a look at the standard representation of the Baphomet (((they))) worship, apart the hand gesture that is identical to the one Pazuzu makes, there is a Caduceus where his phallus should be.

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0247e1  No.13844568

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>>13844507

(Please read from the start)

Anons know by now that the Caduceus’ origin is a Beam of Light with electricity around it/swirling around it. I’ve talked about it before a few times already with Gudea’s Libation vase (page 690) and the rosette from Ancient Egypt (page 815) and the symbol of Shamash (page 814). The Caduceus is a distorted, mutated and mutilated representation of that beam of LIGHT which was totally disfigured by later, much later generations.

So here, to represent the phallus of Baphomet or even Humbaba’s as a snake/serpent, it’s not the animal, but electricity. Here, it’s like the snake from the Uraeus. No, this doesn’t mean his phallus sent electrical shocks but I think this MIGHT represents the “spark of life” = that little electrical charge that occurs when the spermatozoid enters the ovule so that a new life starts.

This is not that crazy for an interpretation anons, since this psycho whom is the Evil One, he thought he was God. His followers think he is equal to God and he can “create” life just like God does = God is the giver of Life. Remember anons, these people are sick.

But the phallus shaped like the Caduceus can have a double meaning. According to (((them))), Satan/Baphomet is the one whom carries the LIGHT within him. And since the Caduceus is a symbolic representation of a Beam of Light, (((they))) think Baphomet is the one whom can “bring”/”open” that Beam of Light = portal

This is a short clip from the Avengers: listen carefully to what Bruce/Hulk says about Tony/Iron Man (around minute 1.38 of the clip): “A warm Light for mankind […]. Well, I think that was meant for you.” This is Satanism thrown straight into our faces. Iron Man is the personification of Satan in the comics. Iron Man was created, modeled onto the image of the Evil One. Do you see why Downey Jr. = a pedo (from Epstein flight logs) was picked to play THAT specific role? See now why Downey Jr. is the first star/name of the franchise? (((They))) are turning (((their))) deity = (((their))) prince of Darkness into a superhero for everyone, mostly the children, to admire. (((They))) are making him an important idol loved by all, mostly children. This is deeper and much more sinister than just a pedo playing a role where he is a superhero. There is a far worse and darker agenda to this than the obvious. Be careful whom you follow.

We’ve seen before, in this thread, Esteban from the animation called: The Mysterious cities of Gold (page 702 – video = light shining out of Esteban), carry the Light within him.

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6f0c4a  No.13848891

>>13844568

(Please read from the start)

“However, another description in a tablet sold to a museum in Sulaymaniyah in 2011 is more positive about Humbaba:

"Where Humbaba came and went there was a track, the paths were in good order and the way was well trodden … Through all the forest a bird began to sing: A wood pigeon was moaning, a turtle dove calling in answer. Monkey mothers sing aloud, a youngster monkey shrieks: like a band of musicians and drummers daily they bash out a rhythm in the presence of Humbaba."

In this version of the story, Humbaba is beloved of the gods and a kind of king in the palace of the forest. Monkeys are his heralds, birds his courtiers, and his entire throne room breathes with the aroma of cedar resin. The tablet goes on to portray Gilgamesh as an aggressor who destroys a forest unnecessarily, and Humbaba's death is lamented by Enkidu.”

>> Well, this is true. Humbaba was in his territory = his dominion. Enkidu and Gilgamesh came to “get rid” of Humbaba. If someone knocks on your door while wanting to shoot you, do you welcome them nicely? This is a perspective issue here anons: it all depends which side is writing the story. If we hear the side of Gilgamesh, then the narrative is in one set, but if we hear the side of Humbaba, we will get another narrative set, won’t we? It all depends whom is writing this, which side. I wonder if this is one of the text translated by Finkel (starting page 20), remember him anons?

“Demise

Humbaba is first mentioned in Tablet II of the Epic of Gilgamesh. After Gilgamesh and Enkidu become friends following their initial fight, they set out on an adventure to the Cedar Forest beyond the seventh mountain range, to slay Humbaba (Huwawa): "Enkidu," Gilgamesh vows, "since a man cannot pass beyond the final end of life, I want to set off into the mountains, to establish my renown there." Gilgamesh tricks the monster into giving away his seven "radiances" by offering his sisters as wife and concubine. When Humbaba's guard is down, Gilgamesh punches him and captures the monster. Defeated, Humbaba appeals to a receptive Gilgamesh for mercy, but Enkidu convinces Gilgamesh to slay Humbaba. In a last effort, Humbaba tries to escape but is decapitated by Enkidu, or in some versions by both heroes together; his head is put in a leather sack, which is brought to Enlil, the god who set Humbaba as the forest's guardian. Enlil becomes enraged upon learning this and redistributes Humbaba's seven splendors (or in some tablets "auras"):

"He gave Humbaba's first aura to the fields. He gave his second aura to the rivers. He gave his third aura to the reed-beds. He gave his fourth aura to the lions. He gave his fifth aura to the palace (one text has debt slaves). He gave his sixth aura to the forests (one text has the hills). He gave his seventh aura to Nungal.”

No vengeance was laid upon the heroes, though Enlil says, "He should have eaten the bread that you eat, and should have drunk the water that you drink! He should have been honored."

>> So anons, do tell me: what do you think these AURAS were? What are these SPLENDORS? Do you think they were crystals or gems like the ones the Native American Horned Serpent had on the forehead, as well as some of the Seraphim used to also have on the forehead? Or are they blasters from the Horned Serpent armor? And again, we have the number 7 popping out = whatever these auras were, we have 7 of them.

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6f0c4a  No.13848913

>>13848891

(Please read from the start)

Enkidu didn’t trust Humbaba and wasn’t swayed with his words like Gilgamesh was. Does this imply Humbaba was a master of lies and deceit = had a golden tongue, just like the Serpent from the Garden of Eden? Remember how Nergal convinced Marduk to leave the City-State of Babylon? Is this the art of deception of the Horned Serpent Clan we are witnessing here?

Of course Enlil was in a pure state of rage upon hearing of the death of one of his fellow warriors.

“As each gift was given by Gilgamesh, he received a "terror" (= "radiance") in exchange, from Humbaba. The seven gifts successively given by Gilgamesh were:

1. his sister, Ma-tur,

2. (a gap in the text),

3. eca-flour,

4. big shoes,

5. tiny shoes,

6. semi-precious stones, and

7. a bundle of tree-branches.”

>> Sounds like a trade took place between Humbaba and Gilgamesh. What are these “terrors” Gilgamesh received? Why are they called radiance? What can be radiant and terrorize in the same time? The only thing that comes to my mind are the blasters from the Horned Serpent armor which sparkles and emits light like a gem = making it radiant. Or the incredible Staff-Weapon = Sharur, which emits electricity = electricty does sparkle, no?

“While Gilgamesh thus distracts and tricks this spirit of the cedar forest, the fifty unmarried young men he has brought on the adventure are felling cedar timber, stripping it of its branches and laying it "in many piles on the hillside," ready to be taken away. Thus the adventure reveals itself in the context of a timber raid, bringing cedar wood to timberless Mesopotamia.”

>> So Gilgamesh was there to loot wood from Phoenicians because there was no wood in Mesopotamia. Incredible how some archaeologists and researchers mess easy things up like what Bernardo Biados did on page 648. You need a lot of wood to build sturdy boats to take on the high sea. There were none in Mesopotamias, so how come they mastered sailing when they didn’t have the tool = ships to do it? Because they didn’t, it was the Phoenicians whom sailed the high seas and their services were rented by other nations.

“As his death approaches, and Gilgamesh is oppressed with his own mortality, the gods remind him of his great feats: "…having fetched cedar, the unique tree, from its mountains, having killed Humbaba in the forest…”

The iconography of the apotropaic severed head of Humbaba, with staring eyes, flowing beard and wild hair, is well documented from the First Babylonian dynasty, continuing into Neo-Assyrian art and dying away during the Achaemenid rule. The severed head of the monstrous Humbaba found a Greek parallel in the myth of Perseus and the similarly employed head of Medusa, which Perseus placed in his leather sack. Archaic Greek depictions of the gorgoneion render it bearded, an anomaly in the female Gorgon. Judith McKenzie detected Humbaba heads in a Nabatean tomb frieze at Petra.”

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6f0c4a  No.13848945

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>>13848913

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>> Well, I won’t be surprised to find out that the story of Humbaba was transferred to the Greeks via the Hittites. But regardless if the transfer occurred or not, Medusa was also a Horned Serpent warrior just like Humbaba was. We are dealing with the same group here, it’s just the details are a bit different depending on the culture and the generation the tale is told in.

I keep on talking about mutation, distortion and even mutilation to historical fact in this thread. I’m going to show anons an imprint of a Sumerian Seal where Gilgamesh and Enkidu are killing Humbaba – first picture attached to this page. On the oldest = Sumerian imprint, we can clearly see that Humbaba had a full human body and he is wearing a horned helmet similar to the one Nergal wears. Sure, it’s not identical, but it’s close. That’s clearly a horned helmet. Above the scene we also see 7 dots displayed on 2 rows. Do these 7 dots represent the 7 radiances or terrors mentioned in the Wikipedia page? And did anons notice the “shining star” right above Humbaba? Is that really a star? Or is it a Beam of Light from above?

The second picture I’m attaching with this page is the imprint of a cylinder seal from the Assyrian time. The transformation is huge. The human body of Humbaba was replaced by the one of a winged bull, transforming him into a Lamassu; an image extremely far away from his true and original one. Gilgamesh is also represented with wings as if he was wearing a ThunderBird flying gear.

This is a very good example of how ancient knowledge mutated with later generations. See now why the researcher should stick to the oldest period and not go into the Assyrian one?

There is something troubeling me: In the Anvegers movie series, there is a scene from the one called The Avengers: Age of Ultron, where Thor is leaving at the end of the movie and Tony along Steve, are seeing him “take off” in the Bifrost. Then Tony cracks a joke about Thor having no regards to lawn maintenance. Did anyone notice the pattern the Bifrost made on the lawn? I did. The 4th picture is the publically known patter left by the Bifrost. But if I flip that pattern upside down what do anons see?

I’ve marked the eyes in red and highlighted in green the contour of the face for anons. I’ve also put in yellow what seems to be the cheek plates identical to what the Amazones wear in Wonder Woman. This Bifrost pattern even has braided hair on it = marked in brown. Compare with the amulet of Humbaba, first picture in page 953 while keeping in mind that the amulet is in 3 D shape, while the Bifrost pattern in the movie is in 2 D shape. What do you think? Similar or not? I’m confused about it.

Some may argue this is a Viking warrior represented by the Bifrost or an Asgardian warrior. Well, maybe….but….weren’t the Horned Serpents also warrior of that Ancient Lost Civilization just like the ThunderBirds? But then they wanted to grab power and rebelled; and a calamity occurred as a consequence of their greed for power. This might be a Viking or Asgardian warrior, but seeing how Satanic oriented the Avengers’ series is, which one do you think it is: Viking, Asgardian or Humbaba? Make up your own mind about it. Strangely, it also reminds me of what the Amazones are wearing in Wonder Woman.

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d4c598  No.13856127

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>>13848945

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The second notable from the Pazuzu Wikipedia page after Humbaba is another monster called Lamashtu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamashtu

“In Mesopotamian mythology, Lamashtu (Akkadian dLa-maš-tu; Sumerian Dimme Dim3-me or Kamadme) was a female demon, monster, malevolent goddess or demigoddess who menaced women during childbirth and, if possible, kidnapped their children while they were breastfeeding. She would gnaw on their bones and suck their blood, as well as being charged with a number of other evil deeds. She was a daughter of the Sky God Anu.”

>> Of course she is the daughter of the Sky God Anu because she came from the Sky, as in she Flew in; in other words, she is a daughter of the Sun as well. She used to kidnap children to eat them and drink their blood. Doesn’t this mean she is a pedovore? And just like nowadays Bloodlines on top of it all.

“Lamashtu is depicted as a mythological hybrid, with a hairy body, a lioness' head with donkey's teeth and ears, long fingers and fingernails, and the feet of a bird with sharp talons. She is often shown standing or kneeling on a donkey, nursing a pig and a dog, and holding snakes. She thus bears some functions and resemblance to the Mesopotamian demon Lilith.”

>> Amazing! We have another Tetra-morph or should I say another Multi-morph, just like Pazuzu, Seth, Humbaba etc. I bet the snakes she is holding are lightning bolts represented as snakes; or they could be the Sharur weapon = Staff-weapon that emits lightning. We’ve got 2 new details about her: 1 – breastfeeding a pig and a dog which means she was pregnant and had children. 2 – She bares resemblance to Lilith.

“Mythology

Lamashtu's father was the Sky God Anu. Unlike many other usual demonic figures and depictions in Mesopotamian lore, Lamashtu was said to act in malevolence of her own accord, rather than at the gods' instructions. Along with this her name was written together with the cuneiform determinative indicating deity. This means she was a goddess or a demigoddess in her own right.

She bore seven names and was described as seven witches in incantations. Her evil deeds included (but were not limited to): slaying children, unborns, and neonates; causing harm to mothers and expectant mothers; eating men and drinking their blood; disturbing sleep; bringing nightmares; killing foliage; infesting rivers and lakes; and being a bringer of disease, sickness, and death.”

>> In other words she was a pedovore. Good old number 7 again.

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d4c598  No.13856152

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>>13856127

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“Pazuzu, a god or demon, was invoked to protect birthing mothers and infants against Lamashtu's malevolence, usually on amulets and statues. Although Pazuzu was said to be bringer of famine and drought, he was also invoked against evil for protection, and against plague, but he was primarily and popularly invoked against his fierce, malicious rival Lamashtu.”

>>This is what I was talking about when I said that a Horned Serpent can be fighting another Horned Serpent because of greed or rivalry, just like what happened between Alexander’s generals.

“Incantation against Lamaštu:

Great is the daughter of Heaven who tortures babies

Her hand is a net, her embrace is death

She is cruel, raging, angry, predatory

A runner, a thief is the daughter of Heaven

She touches the bellies of women in labor

She pulls out the pregnant women's baby

The daughter of Heaven is one of the Gods, her brothers

With no child of her own.

Her head is a lion's head

Her body is a donkey's body

She roars like a lion

She constantly howls like a demon-dog”

>> Well they said in this incantation that she cannot get pregnant herself, so how come she can breastfeed? Whom are her brothers mentioned in this incantation? She is Multi-morph alright.

“In another incantation against her, she appears to be identified with Inanna:

Lamash, daughter of Anu

Whose name has been uttered by the gods

Innin(Inanna), queen of queens

Lamashtu, O great lady

Who seizes the painful Asakku

Overwhelming the ‘Alû

Come not nigh what belongeth to the man

Be conjured by Heaven

Be conjured by the Earth

Be conjured by Enlil

Be conjured by Ea.”

>> It’s unclear if she is identified with Inanna, that is uncertain. But I do like the title of Queen of Queens meantioned in this incantation, which reminds me of another title = King of Kings. Keep this in mind and I will be talking about it later on.

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fe97c3  No.13863547

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>>13856152

(Please read from the start)

“In modern culture

[…]

Ritual

An Akkadian incantation and ritual against Lamashtu is edited in Texte aus der Umwelt des Alten Testaments vol. 2 (1988) .It is glossed as an "incantation to dispel lasting fever and Lamashtu". The prescribed ritual involves a Lamashtu figurine. A sacrifice of bread must be placed before the figurine and water must be poured over it. A black dog must be made to carry the figurine. Then it is placed near the head of the sick child for three days, with the heart of a piglet placed in its mouth. The incantation must be recited three times a day, besides further food sacrifices. At dusk on the third day, the figurine is taken outdoors and buried near the wall.”

Unfortunately I couldn’t find any Sumerian or Akkadian artifacts representing Lamashtu. All I found were Assyrian, Neo-Assyrian and possibly Babylonian; we know how big the mutation took place during this period. So can we trust the iconography on these artifacts as being the original = authentic? I don’t know.

The artifact I’m going to check about Lamashtu is from a much later period called Neo-Assyrian. This is a stereotyped item, as in many of the same item were produced back in the days, like making many amulets of the same. The other artifacts are fragments of the same design but from different damaged artifacts. I’m going to work on the “complete” piece but put the pictures of many fragments from other artifacts. These can be found as Bronze plaques or stone plaques and there can be some small details varying from one artifact to another – but it’s no big deal since the general description is the same standard one for almost all of them.

So here we have a Neo-Assyrian bronze plaque currently displayed at the Louvre. This plaque was titled: Plaque of the Hells – translated from the French: Plaque des Enfers.

When we look at the over artifact from both sides, we will see the demon king Pazuzu depicted on the back side of the plaque. But we see his back side as well on the reverse. When we look at the plaque from the front, we see his head and his hands on top of the upper registers. It gives you the impression it’s a 3 D object with Pazuzu standing behind the plaque and peeking = takin a look to what’s going on, on the front side of the plaque; or simply taking a look to whomever is looking at the plaque. Some even go a bit further in the interpretation and say Pazuzu seem to be holding the plaque as if it’s a carton board with a display scene on it.

There are 4 different scenes = 4 registers displayed on the plaque. They are represented horizontally, one on top of the other, parallel to one another. I’m going to start with the bottom register and move my way up.

The bottom register is the biggest in size. At the center of it, we have Lamashtu represented in her traditional, standard pose with both of her arms bent at the level of the elbow and held up. She is holding a bicephalic serpent in each fist. As explained before, I think these are Lightning and not animals = snakes. This is a symbolic representation of Lightning which is a common practice between Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. She is kneeling with her right knee on what looks like a horse – Main Stream History says it’s a donkey, but no, it’s a horse. This is not a real animal but this represents a heraldic symbol of one specific geographic location. We’ve talked about it before in this thread. Can anons guess which country was always known through history as being the land of the horses? = Yes, it’s Armenia (starting page 10).

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7348a4  No.13870108

File: 30e241a811adc5f⋯.jpg (238.25 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, Lamashtu_plaque_lower_regi….jpg)

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>>13863547

(Please read from the start)

It is a common practice at early stages of history when the survivors came out from the Flood to represent people standing on various animals, mostly felines. We also found this common use in pre-dynastic Egypt, where each city, each nome and each kingdom (either upper or lower Egypt) had their own symbolic animal (example Libyan palette page 117). The only difference is that in Anatolia and in Mesopotamia deities and people stand on the symbolic animal. I think the Neo-Assyrians copied this without even knowing what it really means, the deep meaning in this.

Do anons remember the winged Elamite statuette from page 807? That winged warrior had the same stance as Lamashtu does on this plaque. Do you remember what I said back then, about the statuette might have hand blasters? Why do you think its arms are depicted that way? As if it’s either on defensive stance or is about to block something? Does this stance remind you of how Iron Man shoots his blasters? Now compare it all to Lamashtu holding the lightning in her hands. Make up your own mind about this. Put all the pieces together yourself.

Right under Lamashtu’s left knee there is a scorpion depicted. It’s important to note that most of the elements in this scene are represented in relief while the scorpion and a couple of other items are engraved on the plaque. Also remember that the Scorpion has a meaning = symbol = indication of a warrior.

Lamashtu kneeling on the horse is in a circular boat. Anons may argue it’s not a circular boat, but I want to remind anons that we are looking at this scene from the side. We are not looking face to face at Lamashtu but looking at her de coté = from the side. So it’s the same with the boat. And yes anons, you guessed it right = this is a Kuphar she is standing on. Please go back to page 15 (starting) and take a look at the photographs of the Kuphar. Now let’s cut the Kuphar exactly in its diameter and look at it from the side, what will we see? And just like it’s the case with the Kuphar, there are no oars here, on the plaque, as well. The only difference is that Lamashtu’s Kuphar has decoration on it while modern day Kuphars are simple, plain.

The Kuphar Lamashtu is standing on is floating on a body of water which contains loads of fish. Well, we can assume this is the Euphrates but what is troubling me are the two “trees” we see in the background. Those are not date trees or palm trees like the type of trees we see in Mesopotamia. Those look like “forest trees” – I’m even suspecting these might be some type of fir tree; which also indicates Armenia if we combine it with the river. Anons shouldn’t forget that the Euphrates’s two main sources were in the Armenian Plateau. It’s the spikes on the trees that are making me think of Fir trees.

Above the Fir trees, different objects are depicted = 8 or 9 of them, with one looking like a archer’s bow and another like jug or an amphora at the top.Right behind Lamshtu, Pazuzu is depicted on a ground marked by a line in his traditional pose = as in lifting one arm and lowering the other. He is clearly standing on the banks of the Euphrates River. There might be an engraved tree between him and the boat but I’m not sure about it.

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728b4b  No.13877603

File: c8286d75ee14f23⋯.jpg (165.09 KB, 800x533, 800:533, Lamashtu_plaque_second_thi….jpg)

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>>13870108

(Please read from the start)

The whole scene is oriented towards your right hand if you are looking at the screen; this including the fish. I don’t know about you, but the orientation is giving me the impression that the boat is flowing downwards = going downstream; which in turn consolidates my interpretation this is a Kuphar and we are flowing down from Armenia on the Euphrates River in this scene.

The second register, the one just above, is narrower than the previous one. The scene flow is also oriented toward your right hand. And this is where I’m going to start:

The first person we see in this register is a bearded man, wearing traditional Assyrian tunic and cap. He’s got his left arm lowered while his right arm is held up high. His hands are positioned in the same way as Pazuzu is.

The second person in this register forms a duet with the third person. Both are facing one another, which makes the second person having turned his back to the first person whom is right in front of him. Both are wearing traditional Assyrian tunics and both have their right arm lifted upwards which is again the same pose as Pazuzu does. Both have the body of a human but their heads is that of a feline. Anons guessed it right if they think these are warriors wearing a feline armor.

Right behind this feline duo, we have a strange scene. Two men wearing fish = aquatic armor are standing on each side of a sick person’s bed, with their right hands raised in a blessing gesture. Between them, it seems there is a bed with a mattress on it. This bed looks incredibly close to the one we have in dynastic Ancient Egypt – as seen in picture attached to this page. A person is lying on the bed with his/her arms extended upwards. This person is not dead YET, but probably sick and at risk of dying.

What is puzzling about this person what she/he is wearing. It’s like some type of long tunic or robe with a hood to cover the head. So I’m wondering if this is not a “hospital gown” type of clothing we have here. What do you think anons: is this bed a “healing” bed like the ones we’ve mentioned before in this thread (page 207 – 10th point)? Is the second register representing a fight between warriors and someone got wounded and is being treated? It’s a possibility.

This register ends on your far left hand with what looks like a high stool where an object is placed. Looking at the height of the stool, this is an oil lamp put on the high stool to get the room brighter. Placing light on a high surface illuminates and brightens the room much more than placing the light on the floor or near the floor. A simple trick, but an effective one. Check the picture and compare.

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728b4b  No.13877613

File: 35d3495ade0b3e5⋯.jpg (46.36 KB, 500x390, 50:39, Fragment_of_Assyrian_Lamas….jpg)

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>>13877603

(Please read from the start)

The third register is also a narrow one and it’s also oriented towards your right hand. This register, along with the last = top one are amazing.

Here we have a row of SEVEN persons standing, all wearing the same Assyrian type of tunic; with their left arm lowered and their right arm lifted up in the same pose as Pazuzu. I have no idea what this hand positioning means: is this how they used to say hello before the Flood? Just being a bit silly there with my thoughts cause this hand gesture is not exclusive to Baphomet or Pazuzu; seems other Flood survivors used it as well, but its meaning is lost to us.This gesture is very ancient. We have a very nice collection of warriors here anons. But look closely, each one is different than the others because each has a different animal head.

Starting from your right hand, they are:

1 – Serpent.

2 – Eagle.

3 – A horned animal, possibly a Bull/Ox.

4 – Ram.

5 – I couldn’t identify this animal.

6 – Dog or maybe even a wolf.

7 – Feline.

Say hello to the Sebetti anons as we are seeing them for the first time gathered all of them in one place.

All 7 of them are clearly warriors anons and not demons from Hell as the Main Stream History told us about them.

I’m attaching to this page, different fragments from damaged artifacts where the third register is shown. I hope anons can help me identify the remaining animal I am uncertain of = as in number 5 of the list I provided.

I would also like to point out that there is no specific order in which these 7 warriors are represented. If you look at all the artifacts, their place in the row changes, so I’m guessing they are placed there randomly and not according to their rank or importance.

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3a2853  No.13885741

File: 06bb213f021bd1b⋯.jpg (146.9 KB, 1024x682, 512:341, _Lamashtu_plaque_close_up_….jpg)

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>>13877613

(Please read from the start)

Now the top = 4th register, the last one is also amazing as well being a huge puzzle. These are symbols representing important stuff. What stuff? I think they represent WEAPONS or notable items. Each one of them belongs to ONE Sebetti = is owned by one Sebetti = his signature weapon.

There is a possibility – not certain about it – that each Sebetti warrior has his own TYPE of weapon depicted right on top of him. Anons should know by now that I don’t say those things out of the blue. In page 894, it was said that there are 7 different hieroglyphs to represent the Wedjat = Eye of Horus = Electrical weapon. I interpret this as there are 7 different types of weapons which emit the same type of electrical beam or close to it. Did anyone ever wonder whom came up with the idea of a Stun Gun or a Taser? Where that idea really came from? Connect the dots anons. Alos on page 955, it was said that Humbaba has 7 Splendors or 7 Auras which Gilgamesh had to take from him in order to defeat him.

I usually prefer to work with Sumerian/Akkadian artifacts because they are the oldest and closest to the origin. But I couldn’t find a Lamashtu plaque from that period and all I found were these Neo-Assyrian, Babylonian, Assyrian ones. I hope someone reading would be able to find a similar but Sumerian artifact and share it with us in this thread. I am aware there might a mutation, mostly in the details; like maybe one of the Sebetti’s animal head might be different, or one those stuff above the fir trees. The Assyrians messed things up but not as much as the Greek and then the Hellenistic Kingdoms extended with the Romans.

So how do I know these are the Sebetti’s weapons and not constellations or anything else? On the bronze Plaque from Hell, the first Sebetti represented in the third register is a Serpent. Just above him in the 4th registers there is a specific symbol made up of strange object? If you look at the second register, on top of the high stool, and compare you will notice that both objects are identical = it’s an oil lamp. Then it means the Serpent a LIGHT BEARER. Which explains why (((they))) call Lucifer the Light Bearer, doesn’t it?

Right above the oil lamp in the 4th register we have 2 rows of dots one of top of the other. The upper row has 4 dots, while the lower row has 3 dots. In total, this makes 7 dots. This might be a constellation but I don’t think anyone will figure out which constellation it is, because I believe these are blasters and not a constellation. In page 955 while taking a look at Humbaba we learned he had 7 “radiances” which he “gave away” after being tricked by Gilgamesh to do so. Back then I said those are the blasters. And it’s the same blasters Enlil redistributed, but they were either called Auras or Splendors; as if they were some Gems (remember Native American Horned Serpent gem on forehead as well as Seraphim gem on forehead), which also shine like the blasters. Same thing seen in Cylinder Seal imprints, depicted just above a person on page 909 third picture – I believe these are indication to which clan the person bellow the dots belongs to; in this case: Serpent Sebetti.

If I combine the oil lamp with the 7 dots, this indicates we are dealing with 7 things that emits light/ shines = the blasters. So you see anons, I was right: this is the weapon of the Serpent Sebetti. This is a symbolic representation of the weapon = blasters. As in how do you explain to the person seeing this, that the Serpent Sebetti uses 7 “gems” = blasters which emits light? This is how you do it in Ancient Times = you put 7 dots and an oil lamp to indicate that you have 7 round/circular things that emits light. Remember the 7 Auras from Humbaba – Cylinder Seal imprint page 957 + Cylinder Seal imprint on page 909, same 7 dots indicating the person standing under it is Horned Serpent Warrior.

Now look at the first picture from the previous page = 963. We see the partially the upper register where the place of the weapons is different as well as the place of the Serpent Sebetti standing the row. I think it’s either the third or the 4th Sebetti starting from your left hand side. I’m unable to say exactly which ones because of the artistic style in the carving, it’s not that refined as the Bronze Plaque from Hell; here it’s a more rough artistic method. And just above the Serpent Sebetti is the same symbol pointing to his weapon. Anons, did you notice the Serpent Sebetti doesn’t have horns?

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573540  No.13891862

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>>13885741

(Please read from the start)

If I follow the same line of reasoning and take a look at the other Sebetti can I attribute the weapons and guess what they are?

The second Sebetti in the row is the Eagle. Right above him there is a concave shape that looks like a Moon crescent. Is this the ThunderBirds weapon? Is this the Sharur that emits electricity? Could this be an archer’s bow? If it was, why isn’t it represented downwards this way and not sideward as it’s traditionally depicted? Strange, isn’t it?

The Third Sebetti in the row is an ox/bull . If I follow in the same line of reasoning, then I should associate the winged bird like item to him. I bet a lot of reader are already familiar with this ancient design, and we’ve seen it on Behistun inscription (page 8) as well as seen in other artifacts in this thread, here and there. I think this is an aircraft anons, not a body Jet suit like the ones used by the ThunderBirds. This is like the F35 or any other type of plane. And IF this turns out to be the specialty weapon used by the Ox Sebetti, it means they were airplane pilots. The Ox Sebetti could fly not because he used to wear Jet Suits like the ThunderBirds but because they piloted airplanes, probably military type of airplanes. And in turn this explains perfectly why Hathor and the Lamassu, both of them, have wings. Does this explain why Hathor was considered by early Ancient Egypt as the mother of Horus? = as in Fighter planes pilots and Jet Suit pilots’ place is in the sky = they were both the guardians of the sky?

The Fourth Sebetti is the Ram. In Ancient Egypt, the Ram was associated with Osiris for unknown reasons (page 837). We don’t see much (so far) the Ram armor. If we look at the fourth in the 4th registers, the one that is supposed to belong to the Ram Sebetti, at first sight, it looks like a shield with solar design on it and maybe a stack of javelins or small spears next to it. But we also saw the same design as the symbol of Shamash in this thread in page 814, which I believe is a beam of light with electricity swirling around it. Strangely, for some unknown reason, the Ram has always been associated in Ancient times either to the Sun or to solar deities – which is another type of connection to this Bean of Light. So here, there is still loads of info to gather.

It’s hard to figure out which animal is the Fifth Sebetti from this artifact and the weapon that should go to him looks like a staff with something on top of it. Could this be the Sharur? = the staff weapon used by the Staff-God in the Andes? Maybe, but when I went back to take a look I noticed a pottery piece from the Moche Culture (page 441) where a warrior is wearing a bird mask and is holding in his left hand a shield with javelins, and in his right hand he is holding a staff with its upper end shaped like what we see on this plaque. Is this a coincidence? I don’t know, but here, it needs more digging and it’s better to gather more information.

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0131d9  No.13900644

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>>13891862

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The 6th Sebetti has a Canine face, either a dog or a wolf. His weapon should be that trident shaped like object. I have no idea what this could be. Do anons remember how Seth uses some type of Spear (page 808) which emits fire? A lot of researchers think that Seth looks like a dog of the desert, so does this mean he was part of the Canine clan and he betrayed them and worked for the Evil One? Or does this mean the entire Canine clan was among the coup plotters = co-conspirators along with the Serpent clan? I don’t know. But I do know that Pazuzu is also said to have SOMETIMES the face of a dog; while Lamashtu is said to nurse a dog. So are these traitor warriors to their own clans? Is the Canine clan the ally of the Serpent clan? Or did the Serpent clan also steal tech from the Canine clan to integrate it to its own like what it did to the ThunderBirds and Feline Armor? Did the Horned Serpent warriors go as far as to steal tech from the other 6 clans and to integrate them to their own armors? So far seems this way because we have loads of tetra-morphs and multi-morphs on our hands. Unless I find direct proof of the Canine clan being among the coup plotters, then I am thinking the Canine clan had traitors among its ranks and their armor tech was stolen from them. I hope I will find more information as I progress in this thread, to help me see through the Canine Clan better.

The last Sebetti is clearly a feline one and his weapon is made of 2 parts. I have no clue what that box looking thing might be = a square shield maybe. I don’t know. But amazingly the staff next has some type of animal on its upper extremity which is incredibly similar to what Bes is holding in page 945 – now this relief of Bes dates back to Roman times, so I’m scratching my head trying to figure out how the Romans got a hold of an Assyrian staff design. Was it also transferred via Hittites to the Greeks and from there to the Romans? This needs further digging.

Anons may wonder how I am sure we are dealing with weapons here and not some cosmic bodies or heraldic symbols etc. Well, I went back and took a look at the Sumerian cylinder seal imprints, which are a marvelous source of information in my opinion.

The first cylinder seal shows us the central person holding some type of weapon which both extremities shaped like a trident. We’ve seen this before with the Anunnaki weapon as well but it was a shorter version = I mean the middle section between the forks was shorter. We’ve also seen it in the Chimu pottery on page 449. Are all 4 (including the one on the Cylinder seal) the same weapon? Well, the other 3 do look similar to one another, but this one the Bronze Plaque from Hell is tricky.

The second Sumerian Cylinder seal has many of these weapons on it: the Concave crescent one, the strange staffs/spears behind the hooded person, the 7 dots above the person on the left and the winged flying craft on the upper right corner. It’s interesting isn’t it?

I also want to attract anons attention to 2 additional details about this Sumerian Cylinder Seal:

1 - The Lady sitting on the throne has 4 stars behind her depicted vertically, along with something strange on top of her head. I couldn’t figure out what it was since the picture quality is bad. But what I want to draw attention to is where her throne is resting = on the back of an animal, possibly a feline. This is the same idea behind Lamashtu kneeling on the back of a horse in the Bronze Plaque from Hell. The animal under the throne is a country = this is to say this lady comes from this country, this land.

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0131d9  No.13901409

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>>13900644

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2 – The man standing behind the vertical stars, it’s clear he is holding something, but I’m more concerned with his hooded clothes: He is wearing a feline armor and he is surrounded with all the weapons as if he was a protecting warrior.

The last Sumerian Cylinder Seal is supposed to be, according to the Main Stream History, representing the 4 Seasons. We have 4 males kneeling on their right knee, all in the same position and orientation. They’ve got cute curly hair too. With both hands, they are holding a long staff in front of them. The upper extremity of the staff they are holding has a strange shape to it, but right under the extremity, we have what looks like a SHEN RING attached to the staff.

The first season = on your right hand, as in Mr Spring, is represented a bit shorter = smaller than the other 3. The second one, as in Mr Winter, has a snake/serpent positioned parallel to his staff = vertically. Is this indicating his clan or is it pointing to the electricity ability of the staff he is holding? I think it’s the second option. These 2 seasons, as in Mr Spring and Mr Winter also have a cuneiform inscription close to them.

What is interesting in this Cylinder imprint is mostly what is on top of each Season. Starting with the one on your right hand = Mr Spring:

1 - Concave shape, looking like a moon crescent. 2 – A fish. 3 – A vase or Amphora with what looks like water either coming out of it or coming into it. 4 – Symbol of Shamash = Beam of Light with electricity swirling around it.

We’ve seen the first and the last symbol on top register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell of Lamashtu. So if these were seasons and their symbol, why wasn’t this the interpretation given to the symbol on the bronze plaque? If Spring and Summer are represented symbolically on the bronze plaque why was it called the plaque from Hell? Is it me or is there something wrong here? Do Spring and Summer represent Hell or do they represent Life and Joy? Something is off here, which is pushing me to believe we have a wrong interpretation on BOTH artifacts: these are not symbols of seasons nor cosmic bodies or anything else. These are symbols representing the type of weapon used by ONE of the Sebetti.

The Sumerians being the oldest, these symbols on this cylinder seal might be the authentic ones of 4 of the Sebetti. While the ones we see in the Neo-Assyrian bronze plaque from Hell, MIGHT have a few of them changed or mutated along with time = altered.

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e9592f  No.13908505

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>>13901409

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The last artifact I want to show anons is a relief of Lamashtu from the Babylonian period. As anons can see, the changes are huge. Starting with Lamashtu herself having the body of a snake/serpent instead of the human body. Behind her we have the high stool with the oil lamp we saw in the upper register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell. Only the head of Pazuzu is represented, seen from the side, depicted right in front of her. Under the head of Pazuzu there is a leg of an animal; most probably a horse. I have no idea what this leg is doing there, like that, on its own. But it might be a portion of the horse we see Lamashtu kneel on in the Bronze Plaque from Hell. Maybe since the space is limited, the artist chose to represent the horse leg to keep on the “tradition” of “there is a horse” in the iconography of Lamashtu. For the artist to cut corners like this, it means he doesn’t know the true meaning behind the original presence of the horse.

So even in later time the mutation and distortion continue. This feels like pealing a cabbage isn’t it anons? You got to take out the outer layers one by one to reach the core. Here the situation is the same. We got to go to the oldest period in order to get the most accurate information possible and be the closest to the starting point.

When I look at this Lamashtu Bronze Plaque of the Hells in an overall way, I see a story: Reading from top till down: I see 7 Kings = Sebetti with powerful weapons, then I see someone important dying or on the verge of death and warriors probably guarding him and healers/clergy attending to him, then I see people coming down from the Ark from Armenian Plateau and navigating down the Euphrates: isn’t all of this the story of the murdered king by the Evil One, then the Calamity occurring then the survivors coming out from the Ark?

Let’s talk about the Sebetti:

Whom are the Sebetti? This is the big mystery we have on our hands anons. What information do we have about them? Did ancient sources write about them? If so, from which era? How many inscriptions are there about them?

The only ancient written document we have, close enough to the oldest time, is the Epic of Erra (page 789). Strange isn’t it? From the looks of it the Sebetti were simply “remarkable” beings, but AMAZINGLY there is no abundant information about them? Not just in modern times, but even in Ancient times. The information about them is so scarce despite them being of high importance.

In the Epic of Erra it is reported that the Sebetti were “Champions without peer”, in a repeated formula. Let’s stop here and work a bit on this one = Champions without peer.

What is the definition of “Champion”:

“champion

/ˈtʃampɪən/

noun

plural noun: champions

1. a person who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition.

"a champion hurdler"

2. a person who vigorously supports or defends a person or cause.

"he became the determined champion of a free press"

• historical

a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.”

>> So in other words a Champion is a FIGHTER. Isn’t the synonym of fighter = warrior? Yes, it is.

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e9592f  No.13908658

>>13908505

(Please read from the start)

What’s the meaning of :”without peer”?

“without peer

phrase of peer

1. unrivalled.

"he is a goalkeeper without peer"

>> So if I combine both words it would become an “unrivalled warrior”. It’s an impressive title, isn’t it? So this makes him an exceptional fighter, almost unique, right?

The Epic of Erra tells us the Sebetti “are the sons of “Heaven and Earth” = now this one is tricky and tough. What does this mean? Does it mean they came down from the sky and lived on the land? Does it mean the Sebetti were made from Heavenly and Earthly beings = a combination of both? I don’t know anons. But there is load to think about here and this is a huge mystery.

According to the Epic of Erra, each Sebetti was assigned a destructive destiny. Machinist and Sasson believed the destructive destiny are some type of weapon. Incredibly enough, there is a possibility they are not that far from target when you look at the bronze Plaque from Hell, upper register = we have a row of weapons, placed on top of the Sebetti row. So I’m wondering how did Machinist and Sasson know about these special weapons? From the looks of it anons, the Sebetti were incredible warriors wielding incredible weapons.

By looking at the bronze Plaque from Hell (hoping it’s close enough to the original, authentic Sumerian one and not heavily altered), we notice that each Sebetti is associated to ONE animal and One animal Only. So originally, each Sebetti represented ONE ANIMAL; let me rephrase that: Each Sebetti had one animal as a Heraldic Symbol = Coat of Arms. Remember anons, we are dealing with fighters here, warriors.

1 - We can easily identify the ThunderBird Sebetti on the bronze Plaque from Hell. It’s a perfect fit/match to all the ThunderBirds we’ve seen in all the cultures/civilizations we’ve visited so far in this thread. They are not represented with the Sharur weapon here = the electricity emitting Staff. Is the concave, moon shape like weapon the one used by the ThunderBirds? I don’t know. Is this how the Sharur was drawn in Ancient Times? I don’t know. I’m a bit stuck on the weapons issue as anons can see.

I want to point out that the ThunderBird warriors were from both genders = male and female as various artifacts we’ve already seen in this thread points to; but it seems the majority were males. Do not forget anons that from the Native American stories about the ThunderBirds, we know they were the deadly ENEMY of the Horned Serpent.

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e9592f  No.13908681

>>13908658

(Please read from the start)

Also, we know from the Native American tales and artifacts that there were many ThunderBirds, NOT ONE. So how can this be? And how does this connect with the Sebetti? Easy: Each Sebetti you see on the bronze Plaque from Hell is a LEADER of his clan/squadrons. Like the ThunderBird Sebetti is the leader of the entire ThunderBirds, worldwide. Same goes for the other Sebetti factions. Each Sebetti was the leader of his own clan/warriors. Doesn’t that make them like RULERS = Kings?

We have 7 KINGS on our hands anons. See now why the number 7 is soooooo important. It represents the 7 KINGS = rulers.

2 - Let’s talk a bit about the Ox/Bull Sebetti. As I’ve said before, I think these are pilots, aircraft pilots. We didn’t see any in the Andean region, but we have Hathor in Ancient Egypt. As I’ve said before, the reason why Hathor had wings and why she was considered in the oldest period as being Horus’ mother is the pilot “connection”.

We also have the Lamassu from Mesopotamia, another winged iconography of a bull/ox. I want to remind anons that Lamassu, in the oldest period, was also a female deity, just like Hathor was. It’s only when we got to the Assyrian times that the Lamassu started to be exclusively male = mutation. If we examine the Sumerian Cylinder Seal imprint where the Lamassu is depicted, it’s quiet hard to tell if it’s a male or a female there. I mean the hair is tricky as well as we cannot tell if it has breasts or not. So in this type of scenario, it’s better to gather more artifacts representing the Lamassu, worldwide, and see the percentage of male and female Lamassu warriors in order to determine how many of each were there.

What is certain about the Ox/Bull warriors is that they fought against the Horned Serpent and protected mankind from them; we’ve seen this image projected by the Lamassu in Mesopotamia and by Hathor in Ancient Egypt. The Egyptian goddess even assists Horus, or let me say it better = she takes the side of Horus, during his fight with Seth. Of course, the Ox/Bull Sebetti was the leader of the Ox warriors = their king.

I think we can characterize both the ThunderBird and the Lamassu warriors as being SKY warriors wince both could FLY, using different machinery to do so.

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4f89c9  No.13908856

New here and just found this thread. You all are doing God's work here Thank you for sharing all of your hard work and making this board available.>13718854

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5c2e63  No.13915929

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>>13908681

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Since I’m here, I’m going to go into the Hathor tunnel and I want to remind anons these are interconnected tunnels; as in it’s like a maze which links to Isis and others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor

“Hathor (Ancient Egyptian: ḥwt-ḥr "House of Horus", Ancient Greek: Ἁθώρ Hathōr) was a major goddess in ancient Egyptian religion who played a wide variety of roles. As a sky deity, she was the mother or consort of the sky god Horus and the sun god Ra, both of whom were connected with kingship, and thus she was the symbolic mother of their earthly representatives, the pharaohs. She was one of several goddesses who acted as the Eye of Ra, Ra's feminine counterpart, and in this form she had a vengeful aspect that protected him from his enemies. Her beneficent side represented music, dance, joy, love, sexuality, and maternal care, and she acted as the consort of several male deities and the mother of their sons. These two aspects of the goddess exemplified the Egyptian conception of femininity. Hathor crossed boundaries between worlds, helping deceased souls in the transition to the afterlife.”

>> The Notables:

1 – “Hwt-hr” is the Ancient Egyptian name of Hathor and it means :the “House of Horus”; as in the CLAN of Horus. This proves my point that each Sebetti was a clan/family/tribe. And this reaffirms the solid ties between the Lamassu Sebetti and the ThunderBird Sebetti.

2 – Hathor was a SKY deity, just like Horus. This connects to the last sentence in the previous notable; the Lamassu and the ThunderBirds Sebettis were both warriors of the SKY. The Lamassu Sebetti aircraft pilots while the ThunderBirds were Jet Suit warriors. If I want to compare them both to nowadays military, I would say Lamassu are like F35 pilots and the ThunderBirds are like the paratroopers (sort of); but I guess anons understand what I mean there.

3 – It’s unclear if she was the mother or the consort of Horus or Ra; which both were connected to Kingship. It’s vague and ambiguous, isn’t it? I think this confusion is due to the Ancient Egyptians lack of knowledge and awareness about the existence of the Sebetti. They didn’t know like it was the case in Mesopotamia that there were 7 KINGS; each king had its own heraldic animal and each had his own army made of many warriors. The Ancient Egyptians were unable to understand how Hathor was connected and devoted to the King. Which in turn proves my point that the Lamassu warriors were among the good guys whom fought the Horned Serpent clan.

4 – Hathor was a motherly figure.

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5c2e63  No.13915948

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>>13915929

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5 – Hathor was one of the goddess whom acted like the EYE of Ra. Remember anons, the EYE of Ra was a weapon. This has a double meaning:

A – Hathor was the weapon herself as in she was a warrior, a fighter.

B – Hathor had a weapon powerful as the Sharur was. Let me explain:

From many years of reading many books belonging to many cultures, I found out that a Bull’s horns are not just attack/defense weapon but the horns also represent/symbolize his strength. When you observe the animal = Bull, you will get the same image projected to you. This is the same type of situation as the Eagle. The Birds of Prey have their beak, their ability to fly and their Talons as their special characteristics and yes as their weapons. The Bull has his physical strength and his horns are his strength points = characteristic. If we apply this to the Lamassu and Hathor, we will notice it fits perfectly with them as well; as in their horns are their power. So this is where the researcher should focus = the Horns are the weapon.

A lot of researcher, including anons, see the Horns of Hathor as the first picture I’m attaching with this page. Because of the coloring, they think the circle between the Horns is the Sun. And some even push it further to say this represents the Stargate because of the black lines of the Horns around the Sun disk. But doing so, by going into this tunnel, some researchers are forgetting or neglecting one tiny detail in it, or simply misunderstanding it = the golden serpent wrapped around the circle.

The real Hathor crown = Horns look like the second picture I’m attaching with this page. Look closely at that snake: it’s golden and it’s NOT eating its own tail like the Ouroboros but it’s standing up, like a cobra does, facing the one facing Hathor. Yes anons, this is the Wedjat = Eye of Horus (page 895). If you compare how the Wedjat is depicted and how this golden serpent in Hathor crown is, you will notice they are identical. Back then, I said the Wedjat is electricity that is depicted = shaped like a serpent/snake.

If I combine this information with Hathor crown being the Eye of Ra = weapon and with the horns of a Bull being his weapon… all 3 are pointing me that Hathor horns used to emit electricity. They were weapons on the helmet of the warrior which zapped the opponent. The ThunderBirds had their Sharur = Staff weapon emitting electricity which they used to zap their opponents. The Lamassu warrior didn’t have a staff but they had their horns as their weapon and their point of strength which used to emit electricity and shoot their opponent.

The reader is going to ask me: so then, what is this red circle between the horns which the snake wraps itself around? I will say, this is the energy weapon gathering epicenter. Let me explain: the horns are some type of rods which emits electricity and it sends it to the center = space between the horns as anons can see in the third picture I’m posting with this page.

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5c2e63  No.13915974

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>>13915948

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The electricity starts to concentrate in the space between the horns and starts to form a circle like what you see in the first picture I’ve attached with this page. Why does it concentrate into a circle and not a triangle or a rectangle? Well, I honestly don’t know but I am saying it’s a circle based on the iconography I have from Hathor. Remember anons, I’m taking a look at her “weapon”. I’m calling it a circle, but I think if we look at it from a 3 D perspective and not a 2 D one, there is a possibility this turns out to be an electrical sphere.

So the electricity coming out of the hors keeps on gathering and concentrating in a circular/spherical shape, till there is enough of it to form an epicenter; as seen in the second picture attached to this page.

When the electricity in the epicenter is strong enough, it will shoot out in a beam/ray straight ahead, like an arrow, but it’s made of electricity. As the beam is shot, the horn rods clam down and the electrical circle/sphere starts to dissipate between the horns, to vanish like seen in the third picture I’ve attached with this page. It’s similar to the concept of a Taser Gun (page 964).

The whole process can reboot and reshoot a second, third, etc. times in the same way. I don’t think it will take much time for the electrical beam at the epicenter to form. I mean this is not a process that will take 15 min for the horns to charge the beam. I think this is a fast process, like taking 30 sec at tops to charge and shoot the beam, to recharge once more. Why? Because this is a weapon used by a warrior during battle. Isn’t that why weapons are created? = to be used during battle against an enemy? So if your weapon needs 5, 10 or 15 min to reboot = recharge….and you are on the battlefield surrounded with enemies shooting at you….you would be very much dead in a blink if it takes too long to recharge. A warrior doesn’t use a weapon for a picnic but when there is danger. So this weapon needs to be powerful, practical and swift for it to be an effective one.

The reader may think the old man that I am has finally gone senile and all of this is not even possible. Well, I want to remind you that Qteam itself said that the deeper you go the weirder things get – in that sense anyway, I don’t remember the exact words. But we also know that modern day Bloodlines were reverse engineering the technology of this lost civilization. So anons, do you think (((they))) managed to reverse engineer Hathor’s horn weapon? I’m not that sure, but I have a proposition = a possibility = there is something called Laser Weapon or D.E.W. either fired from satellites (if I understood this correctly) or from drones and planes. Also take a look at page 926, the 2 evil witches and how they hold their hands = they look like Hathor horns with the electricity/beam forming in the middle.

I’m not an expert, but it seems this type of Laser emits a RED beam which, incredibly, coincide with the red color of the circle between Hathor’s horns. Now this is just a proposition from the old man; I’m curious and I’m willing to hear any suggestions anons can give about what type of Beam we are dealing with. Could it be different types of beam, like electricity for one and the other is of fire?

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5c2e63  No.13916008

File: 2446ff369b205b2⋯.jpg (38.65 KB, 570x428, 285:214, Hathor_Wedjat.jpg)

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>>13915974

(Please read from the start)

I’m not basing my words about Hathor’s Horns being a weapon that shoots out a red energy beam with just one of her iconography. I have other artifacts I want anons to take a look at:

1 – The first artifact is from a rather late period as anons can see in the details I’ve written with the picture. This iconography seem to be a stereotyped one, as in we may have more than one artifact with the same imagery on it. What do we see on these artifacts?

We have the head of Hathor represented in her human form = face. Her long hair curls up at its lower extremity to end up in being the Wedjat = standing Snake (on each side of her face) which we now know represents electricity. Her ears are clearly shown. We can also see her traditional horns but their upper extremity is curled instead of being the traditional pointy ones. I think this detail is due to the mutation which occurs as time passes by.

Right above her head, between her horns we have the EYE of RA/Horus also known as the Wedjat symbol represented. The reader may find this weird, or for those whom been reading what I’ve been writing from the start, know this might be a mutation; which it is. But a mutation of what exactly? This is a mutation of the red circle that she usually has between her horns: that red circle encircled with a golden serpent = Wedjat. I think even during this late period the Egyptians understood that the red hathoric disk and the Wedjat were similar = have electrical properties or being some type of beam. This is why much much later generations replaced the hathoric circle in her crown by the Wedjat. It is a mutation but they somehow managed to preserve the meaning of it. This is incredible. Somehow, they used 2 symbols representing weapons in the same spot between her horns.

2 – In the third picture I’ve attached with this page, there are 2 artifacts. The first one is a statuette of Hathor with a Bovine head, while the second one is a cylinder seal with Hathor depicted on it; and this is the artifact I’m interested in = the cylinder seal.

Hathor is depicted with her human face and it “looks like” she has an upside down Ankh on each side of her. Her ears are clearly shown. Her horns end up in a curly form instead of them being pointy, like in the previous artifact. But here we have a different detail = what’s between her horns? Well, there is a vertical line coming out from her head and on the very top of it, we have a very strange shape. I’m not sure if it’s downward triangle or a semi-circle with its diameter marked. But does it matter? The important is that the red disk circled with a golden serpent is all gone and in its place we have a strange design, which could look like an object in the sky and a beam is coming down from it. I can assure you this is not a hair pin, nor a candle or anything else you can think of. I’m going to leave it to anons to make up their own minds about this strange and unconventional iconography of Hathor.

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98bb11  No.13922826

>>13916008

(Please read from the start)

5 – “Her beneficent side represented music, dance, joy, love, sexuality, and maternal care”: Does anyone know if Hathor priestesses practiced “sacred prostitution”? Well, if you find it, let me know because I couldn’t. From personal experience, I know a goddess with sexual connotations might be associated with birth and children, but not with motherhood and honor. So be careful with such information.

6 – Hathor ability to cross “boundaries” between world” points out to her ability to fly and to cross the stragate as a Lamsassu warrior.

“Hathor was often depicted as a cow, symbolizing her maternal and celestial aspect, although her most common form was a woman wearing a headdress of cow horns and a sun disk. She could also be represented as a lioness, cobra, or sycamore tree.

Cattle goddesses similar to Hathor were portrayed in Egyptian art in the fourth millennium BC, but she may not have appeared until the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BC). With the patronage of Old Kingdom rulers she became one of Egypt's most important deities. More temples were dedicated to her than to any other goddess; her most prominent temple was Dendera in Upper Egypt. She was also worshipped in the temples of her male consorts. The Egyptians connected her with foreign lands such as Nubia and Canaan and their valuable goods, such as incense and semiprecious stones, and some of the peoples in those lands adopted her worship. In Egypt, she was one of the deities commonly invoked in private prayers and votive offerings, particularly by women desiring children.”

>> So in the IVth Millennium B.C. there were MANY Lamassu warriors in pre-dynastic Egypt, but Hathor was the most popular one and because of this popularity her cult was wide-spread and it persisted for a long time. Did anons notice how it is “forbidden” to use the words Phoenicia and Lebanon, but instead they use Canaan, Levant or the Middle East? I’ve tried to draw attention to this before in this thread.

“During the New Kingdom (c. 1550–1070 BC), goddesses such as Mut and Isis encroached on Hathor's position in royal ideology, but she remained one of the most widely worshipped deities. After the end of the New Kingdom, Hathor was increasingly overshadowed by Isis, but she continued to be venerated until the extinction of ancient Egyptian religion in the early centuries AD.”

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98bb11  No.13922851

File: 269d9270319ef58⋯.jpg (71.14 KB, 413x550, 413:550, Cosmic_palette_predynastic….jpg)

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>>13922826

(Please read from the start)

“Origins

Images of cattle appear frequently in the artwork of Predynastic Egypt (before c. 3100 BC), as do images of women with upraised, curved arms reminiscent of the shape of bovine horns. Both types of imagery may represent goddesses connected with cattle. Cows are venerated in many cultures, including ancient Egypt, as symbols of motherhood and nourishment, because they care for their calves and provide humans with milk. The Gerzeh Palette, a stone palette from the Naqada II period of prehistory (c. 3500–3200 BC), shows the silhouette of a cow's head with inward-curving horns surrounded by stars. The palette suggests that this cow was also linked with the sky, as were several goddesses from later times who were represented in this form: Hathor, Mehet-Weret, and Nut.”

>> Yes the image of bovines do show up in pre-dynastic Egypt and we’ve seen them before in this thread. The women raising their arms in page 142, I can assure you we are not dealing with Hathor or any bovine type of deity. I’ve already explained about these ladies back in the page. Did you notice anons how they admit in this paragraph that the cow imagery projects motherhood and nourishment? But not prostitution or sexuality? I see it more as a lady having a naughty humor and sensuality. I don’t get from her the same mental image I get from Aphrodite/Venus = lustfull woman.

We’ve also seen the Gerzeh Palette in this thread in page 112. There is no consensus on what this Palette really represents. Some say it’s Hathor or a Cow head, while others suggest it’s stars from a constellation. I bet loads of people looking at this Palette are tempted to see it as the first picture I’ve posted with this page.

But us, in archaeology see it as the second picture. I want to attract anons’ attention to the SHAPE of the stars on the upper tip of the horns and the one right on top of the head of the Bull. Don’t misunderstand, it doesn’t matter how many hands the stars have; what matter is the pointy shape of those 3 stars if you compare them to the convex shape of the stars on the ears of the bovine.

If I consider those 3 stars = 2 on the horns and one on top of the head as not being stars but sparks, then what I said about the electricity being generated by 2 rods and forming an electrical spheres between the horns (pages 971-972) is depicted right in front us. Does this artifact show us the laser beam of the Lamassu being formed by the horns? Can I consider this specific artifact as evidence of the horns being a weapon shooting a beam? = don’t forget, it dates back from pre-dynastic Egypt.

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98bb11  No.13922874

File: c16132858480225⋯.png (68.26 KB, 2197x1257, 2197:1257, Hieroglyphs_related_to_Lam….png)

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>>13922851

(Please read from the start)

If I combine this Palette with the artifacts of page 974, then I believe these are sparks pointing to the horns emitting that electrical beam/laser. I’m going to ask anons to go to this link because I was unable to transfer the drawings onto here in a good way – see picture 1 of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ancient_Egyptian_palettes

Go down to where it’s written about the Gerzeh Palette and take a very good look at the hieroglyphs. They start with a star, then there is a pair of horns upwards, then Hathor’s sistrum; then the last hieroglyph is one with horns upside down, a star between them and a line coming straight down from the star. Take a long and good look at these hieroglyphs anons. I’ve tried to copy them on this page, I hope it’s visible and clear to anons. It’s not that good visually.

Anons, it’s very clear if we see these hieroglyphs from that Wikipedia page that I’m a 100% right with my interpretation of the Hathor’s Horns = it’s the special weapon of the Lamassu warriors which emits some sort of Beam that is shoot out forward like an arrow.

If we compare the Horn Hieroglyph to the second weapon on the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, we will find out they are very similar. I think this second weapon we see is the Weapon Horns of the Lamassu warriors.

Did I make a wrong interpretation a few pages earlier when I was describing the bronze Plaque of Hell and said that each Sebetti in the third register has his own weapon on top of him in the 4th register? No I didn’t. But why is the Lamassu horn weapon depicted just above the ThunderBird Sebetti and the winged weapon depicted above the Lamassu Sebetti?

If the Lamassu weapon was the third weapon, just above the Lamassu warrior, then we would have never known the flying ability of the Lamassu warrior. We already know that Eagles = ThunderBirds can fly, so we do not need to confirm it with the upper register weapons. But by switching the places it becomes clear = If the places of the weapon weren’t switched we would never know about the flying ability of the Lamassu warrior. Also the Lamassu weapon is pretty close to the Sharur staff used by the ThunderBirds. And anons shouldn’t forget the close ties between the Lamassu warriors and the ThunderBirds warriors.

Let’s continue where I left off with Hathor:

“Despite these early precedents, Hathor is not unambiguously mentioned or depicted until the Fourth Dynasty (c. 2613–2494 BC) of the Old Kingdom, although several artifacts that refer to her may date to the Early Dynastic Period (c. 3100–2686 BC). When Hathor does clearly appear, her horns curve outward, rather than inward like those in Predynastic art.”

>> So in the pre-dynastic times her horns were curled inward, while in the early dynastic times her horns were pointing outward. Then this means that the artifacts from page 974 were accurate in this specific detail about her horns, despite them being of late period. Do you think they were also accurate about the Wedjat = Eye of Ra/Horus between the horns as well? It’s possible but not certain.

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98bb11  No.13922888

File: 50f46eafc07eb7b⋯.png (435.06 KB, 631x335, 631:335, Hathor_cow_shape_barque_pl….png)

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>>13922874

(Please read from the start)

“A bovine deity with inward-curving horns appears on the Narmer Palette from near the start of Egyptian history, both atop the palette and on the belt or apron of the king, Narmer. The Egyptologist Henry George Fischer suggested this deity may be Bat, a goddess who was later depicted with a woman's face and inward-curling horns, seemingly reflecting the curve of the cow horns. The Egyptologist Lana Troy, however, identifies a passage in the Pyramid Texts from the late Old Kingdom that connects Hathor with the "apron" of the king, reminiscent of the goddess on Narmer's garments, and suggests the goddess on the Narmer Palette is Hathor rather than Bat.”

>> Narmer Paletter starting page 122.

“In the Fourth Dynasty, Hathor rose rapidly to prominence. She supplanted an early crocodile god who was worshipped at Dendera in Upper Egypt to become Dendera's patron deity, and she increasingly absorbed the cult of Bat in the neighboring region of Hu, so that in the Middle Kingdom (c. 2055–1650 BC) the two deities fused into one. The theology surrounding the pharaoh in the Old Kingdom, unlike that of earlier times, focused heavily on the sun god Ra as king of the gods and father and patron of the earthly king. Hathor ascended with Ra and became his mythological wife, and thus divine mother of the pharaoh.

Roles

“Hathor took many forms and appeared in a wide variety of roles. The Egyptologist Robyn Gillam suggests that these diverse forms emerged when the royal goddess promoted by the Old Kingdom court subsumed many local goddesses worshipped by the general populace, who were then treated as manifestations of her. Egyptian texts often speak of the manifestations of the goddess as "Seven Hathors" or, less commonly, of many more Hathors—as many as 362. For these reasons, Gillam calls her "a type of deity rather than a single entity". Hathor's diversity reflects the range of traits that the Egyptians associated with goddesses. More than any other deity, she exemplifies the Egyptian perception of femininity.”

>> The way I interpret this is that the Seven Hathors points to/refers to the Lamassu Sebetti; as in the Bull warrior among the 7 warriors. While the 362 = many Hathors are the Lamassu warriors. That’s quite a number of them in Ancient Egypt, isn’t it?

“Sky goddess

Hathor was given the epithets "mistress of the sky" and "mistress of the stars", and was said to dwell in the sky with Ra and other sun deities. Egyptians thought of the sky as a body of water through which the sun god sailed, and they connected it with the waters from which, according to their creation myths, the sun emerged at the beginning of time. This cosmic mother goddess was often represented as a cow. Hathor and Mehet-Weret were both thought of as the cow who birthed the sun god and placed him between her horns. Like Nut, Hathor was said to give birth to the sun god each dawn.”

“Hathor's Egyptian name was ḥwt-ḥrw or ḥwt-ḥr. It is typically translated "house of Horus" but can also be rendered as "my house is the sky".The falcon god Horus represented, among other things, the sun and sky. The "house" referred to may be the sky in which Horus lives, or the goddess's womb from which he, as a sun god, is born each day.”

>> I already explained this.

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e4076c  No.13929869

File: cbb54eb7659f73d⋯.jpg (43.73 KB, 142x288, 71:144, Hathor_crown_mural.jpg)

>>13922888

(Please read from the start)

“Solar goddess

Hathor was a solar deity, a feminine counterpart to sun gods such as Horus and Ra, and was a member of the divine entourage that accompanied Ra as he sailed through the sky in his barque. She was commonly called the "Golden One", referring to the radiance of the sun, and texts from her temple at Dendera say "her rays illuminate the whole earth." She was sometimes fused with another goddess, Nebethetepet, whose name can mean "Lady of the Offering", "Lady of Contentment", or "Lady of the Vulva". At Ra's cult center of Heliopolis, Hathor-Nebethetepet was worshipped as his consort, and the Egyptologist Rudolf Anthes argued that Hathor's name referred to a mythical "house of Horus" at Heliopolis that was connected with the ideology of kingship.”

>> Everything in this paragraph is pointing me that she was one of the Sebetti. It’s interesting if you think about it! I mean the idea of not all the Sebetti were male, but some were also females.

“She was one of many goddesses to take the role of the Eye of Ra, a feminine personification of the disk of the sun and an extension of Ra's own power. Ra was sometimes portrayed inside the disk, which Troy interprets as meaning that the Eye goddess was thought of as a womb from which the sun god was born. Hathor's seemingly contradictory roles as mother, wife, and daughter of Ra reflected the daily cycle of the sun. At sunset the god entered the body of the goddess, impregnating her and fathering the deities born from her womb at sunrise: himself and the Eye goddess, who would later give birth to him. Ra gave rise to his daughter, the Eye goddess, who in turn gave rise to him, her son, in a cycle of constant regeneration.”

>> I’ve already explained about Hathor being one of the Eye of Ra = a warrior with a weapon.

“The Eye of Ra protected the sun god from his enemies and was often represented as a uraeus, or rearing cobra, or as a lioness. A form of the Eye of Ra known as "Hathor of the Four Faces", represented by a set of four cobras, was said to face in each of the cardinal directions to watch for threats to the sun god. A group of myths, known from the New Kingdom (c. 1550–1070 BC) onward, describe what happens when the Eye goddess rampages uncontrolled. In the funerary text known as the Book of the Heavenly Cow, Ra sends Hathor as the Eye of Ra to punish humans for plotting rebellion against his rule. She becomes the lioness goddess Sekhmet and massacres the rebellious humans, but Ra decides to prevent her from killing all humanity. He orders that beer be dyed red and poured out over the land. The Eye goddess drinks the beer, mistaking it for blood, and in her inebriated state reverts to being the benign and beautiful Hathor. Related to this story is the myth of the Distant Goddess, from the Late and Ptolemaic periods. The Eye goddess, sometimes in the form of Hathor, rebels against Ra's control and rampages freely in a foreign land: Libya west of Egypt or Nubia to the south. Weakened by the loss of his Eye, Ra sends another god, such as Thoth, to bring her back to him. Once pacified, the goddess returns to become the consort of the sun god or of the god who brings her back. The two aspects of the Eye goddess—violent and dangerous versus beautiful and joyful—reflected the Egyptian belief that women, as the Egyptologist Carolyn Graves-Brown puts it, "encompassed both extreme passions of fury and love".”

>> The first sentence confirms my point that the Cobra of the Uraeus is in fact Electricity. Hathor of the Four Faces: does this mean the Lamassu warriors were stationed in the direction of the Four Cardinal Points? As for the late periods mentioned, well, it’s far from the starting point, so I’m not going to get into it.

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e4076c  No.13929875

File: 56a16044e1db587⋯.jpg (317.55 KB, 1024x659, 1024:659, Banquet_scene_from_the_tom….jpg)

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>>13929869

(Please read from the start)

“Music, dance, and joy

Egyptian religion celebrated the sensory pleasures of life, believed to be among the gods' gifts to humanity. Egyptians ate, drank, danced, and played music at their religious festivals. They perfumed the air with flowers and incense. Many of Hathor's epithets link her to celebration; she is called the mistress of music, dance, garlands, myrrh, and drunkenness. In hymns and temple reliefs, musicians play tambourines, harps, lyres, and sistra in Hathor's honor. The sistrum, a rattle-like instrument, was particularly important in Hathor's worship. Sistra had erotic connotations and, by extension, alluded to the creation of new life.

These aspects of Hathor were linked with the myth of the Eye of Ra. The Eye was pacified by beer in the story of the Destruction of Mankind. In some versions of the Distant Goddess myth, the wandering Eye's wildness abated when she was appeased with products of civilization like music, dance, and wine. The water of the annual flooding of the Nile, colored red by sediment, was likened to wine, and to the red-dyed beer in the Destruction of Mankind. Festivals during the inundation therefore incorporated drink, music, and dance as a way to appease the returning goddess. A text from the Temple of Edfu says of Hathor, "the gods play the sistrum for her, the goddesses dance for her to dispel her bad temper." A hymn to the goddess Raet-Tawy as a form of Hathor at the temple of Medamud describes the Festival of Drunkenness as part of her mythic return to Egypt. Women carry bouquets of flowers, drunken revelers play drums, and people and animals from foreign lands dance for her as she enters the temple's festival booth. The noise of the celebration drives away hostile powers and ensures the goddess will remain in her joyful form as she awaits the male god of the temple, her mythological consort Montu, whose son she will bear.”

>> Take note in big red pen of: “annual flooding of the Nile, colored red by sediment”. I will be explaining something very important later on and I will be talking about this specific FACT.

“Sexuality, beauty, and love

Hathor's joyful, ecstatic side indicates her feminine, procreative power. In some creation myths she helped produce the world itself. Atum, a creator god who contained all things within himself, was said to have produced his children Shu and Tefnut, and thus begun the process of creation, by masturbating. The hand he used for this act, the Hand of Atum, represented the female aspect of himself and could be personified by Hathor, Nebethetepet, or another goddess, Iusaaset. In a late creation myth from the Ptolemaic Period (332–30 BC), the god Khonsu is put in a central role, and Hathor is the goddess with whom Khonsu mates to enable creation.”

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e4076c  No.13929883

File: c4d7f4332efba52⋯.jpg (1.63 MB, 2112x2816, 3:4, Statue_of_Egyptian_Goddess….jpg)

>>13929875

(Please read from the start)

“Hathor could be the consort of many male gods, of whom Ra was only the most prominent. Mut was the usual consort of Amun, the preeminent deity during the New Kingdom who was often linked with Ra. But Mut was rarely portrayed alongside Amun in contexts related to sex or fertility, and in those circumstances, Hathor or Isis stood at his side instead. In the late periods of Egyptian history, the form of Hathor from Dendera and the form of Horus from Edfu were considered husband and wife[ and in different versions of the myth of the Distant Goddess, Hathor-Raettawy was the consort of Montu[ and Hathor-Tefnut the consort of Shu.”

>> See how much her role changed in the late period?

“Hathor's sexual side was seen in some short stories. In a cryptic fragment of a Middle Kingdom story, known as "The Tale of the Herdsman", a herdsman encounters a hairy, animal-like goddess in a marsh and reacts with terror. On another day he encounters her as a nude, alluring woman. Most Egyptologists who study this story think this woman is Hathor or a goddess like her, one who can be wild and dangerous or benign and erotic. Thomas Schneider interprets the text as implying that between his two encounters with the goddess the herdsman has done something to pacify her. In "The Contendings of Horus and Set", a New Kingdom short story about the dispute between those two gods, Ra is upset after being insulted by another god, Babi, and lies on his back alone. After some time, Hathor exposes her genitals to Ra, making him laugh and get up again to perform his duties as ruler of the gods. Life and order were thought to be dependent on Ra's activity, and the story implies that Hathor averted the disastrous consequences of his idleness. Her act may have lifted Ra's spirits partly because it sexually aroused him, although why he laughed is not fully understood.”

>> So let me get this straight: from the first story we do not know for certain it’s Hathor, some only suspect it’s her, and in the second she decides to play Marilyn Monroe in a tale of later period. We” accuse” her of being a sexual hungry lady because of these 2 stories made of straws.

“Hathor was praised for her beautiful hair. Egyptian literature contains allusions to a myth not clearly described in any surviving texts, in which Hathor lost a lock of hair that represented her sexual allure. One text compares this loss with Horus's loss of his divine Eye and Set's loss of his testicles during the struggle between the two gods, implying that the loss of Hathor's lock was as catastrophic for her as the maiming of Horus and Set was for them.

Hathor was called "mistress of love", as an extension of her sexual aspect. In the series of love poems from Papyrus Chester Beatty I, from the Twentieth Dynasty (c. 1189–1077 BC), men and women ask Hathor to bring their lovers to them: "I prayed to her [Hathor] and she heard my prayer. She destined my mistress [loved one] for me. And she came of her own free will to see me.”

>> So she “earned” her title of mistress of love because of:

1 – A story that does mention her but some suspect it’s her in it.

2 – A late period story where mutation might have occurred, she is said to have been playful and decided to be the first Marilyn Monroe in history.

3 – She lost a lock of her hair.

So (((they))) gathered these elements (according to Wikipedia) and pushed them as facts about her sexuality. I don’t know about you anons, but me, I need more. This is inconclusive. Which makes me wonder why did (((they))) want to disfigure the image of Hathor from a motherly one to a sexual one, just like what (((they))) did to Isis image.

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e4076c  No.13929892

File: 45e11621d6e748c⋯.jpg (152.45 KB, 800x711, 800:711, Hathor_as_a_cow_suckling_H….JPG)

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>>13929883

(Please read from the start)

“Motherhood and queenship

Hathor was considered the mother of various child deities. As suggested by her name, she was often thought of as both Horus's mother and consort. As both the king's wife and his heir's mother, Hathor was the mythic counterpart of human queens.

Isis and Osiris were considered Horus's parents in the Osiris myth as far back as the late Old Kingdom, but the relationship between Horus and Hathor may be older still. If so, Horus only came to be linked with Isis and Osiris as the Osiris myth emerged during the Old Kingdom. Even after Isis was firmly established as Horus's mother, Hathor continued to appear in this role, especially when nursing the pharaoh. Images of the Hathor-cow with a child in a papyrus thicket represented his mythological upbringing in a secluded marsh. Goddesses' milk was a sign of divinity and royal status. Thus, images in which Hathor nurses the pharaoh represent his right to rule. Hathor's relationship with Horus gave a healing aspect to her character, as she was said to have restored Horus's missing eye or eyes after Set attacked him. In the version of this episode in "The Contendings of Horus and Set", Hathor finds Horus with his eyes torn out and heals the wounds with gazelle's milk.”

>> The certain points are: she is in good terms with Horus and her relationship with him is close. I don’t mean she is in love with her when I say relationship, by that I mean her link, her bond, her connection to him.

“Beginning in the Late Period (664–323 BC), temples focused on the worship of a divine family: an adult male deity, his wife, and their immature son. Satellite buildings, known as mammisis, were built in celebration of the birth of the local child deity. The child god represented the cyclical renewal of the cosmos and an archetypal heir to the kingship. Hathor was the mother in many of these local triads of gods. At Dendera, the mature Horus of Edfu was the father and Hathor the mother, while their child was Ihy, a god whose name meant "sistrum-player" and who personified the jubilation associated with the instrument. At Kom Ombo, Hathor's local form, Tasenetnofret, was mother to Horus's son Panebtawy. Other children of Hathor included a minor deity from the town of Hu, named Neferhotep, and several child forms of Horus.

The milky sap of the sycamore tree, which the Egyptians regarded as a symbol of life, became one of her symbols. The milk was equated with water of the Nile inundation and thus fertility. In the late Ptolemaic and Roman Periods, many temples contained a creation myth that adapted long-standing ideas about creation. The version from Hathor's temple at Dendera emphasizes that she, as a female solar deity, was the first being to emerge from the primordial waters that preceded creation, and her life-giving light and milk nourished all living things.

Like Meskhenet, another goddess who presided over birth, Hathor was connected with shai, the Egyptian concept of fate, particularly when she took the form of the Seven Hathors. In two New Kingdom works of fiction, the "Tale of Two Brothers" and the "Tale of the Doomed Prince", the Hathors appear at the births of major characters and foretell the manner of their deaths.”

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08c5a4  No.13938429

File: 990df0433600dc2⋯.jpg (180.61 KB, 1200x860, 60:43, is_this_Hathor_in_her_Cana….jpg)

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>>13929892

(Please read from the start)

“Hathor's maternal aspects can be compared with those of Isis and Mut, yet there are many contrasts between them. Isis's devotion to her husband and care for their child represented a more socially acceptable form of love than Hathor's uninhibited sexuality, and Mut's character was more authoritative than sexual.The text of the first century AD Insinger Papyrus likens a faithful wife, the mistress of a household, to Mut, while comparing Hathor to a strange woman who tempts a married man.

Foreign lands and goods

Egypt maintained trade relations with the coastal cities of Syria and Canaan, particularly Byblos, placing Egyptian religion in contact with the religions of that region. At some point, perhaps as early as the Old Kingdom, the Egyptians began to refer to the patron goddess of Byblos, Baalat Gebal, as a local form of Hathor. So strong was Hathor's link to Byblos that texts from Dendera say she resided there. The Egyptians sometimes equated Anat, an aggressive Canaanite goddess who came to be worshipped in Egypt during the New Kingdom, with Hathor. Some Canaanite artworks depict a nude goddess with a curling wig taken from Hathor's iconography. Which goddess these images represent is not known, but the Egyptians adopted her iconography and came to regard her as an independent deity, Qetesh, whom they associated with Hathor.”

>> LoL! I’m holding my ribs and roaring in laughter. Check out this beauty of paragraph anons. (((They))) tell you the City-State’s name = Byblos which is clearly Phoenician; it’s in fact one of the oldest Phoenician City-States. But amazingly the names Phoenicia and/or Lebanon are not mentioned. Instead (((they))) use Syria, Canaan and the funniest is “that region”! LoL! THAT REGION! I bet (((they))) choke on the name if (((they))) say it out loud. Is it that hard to say Phoenicia? Why aren’t (((they))) saying it? It’s just a name of an old country after all, nothing to it. Or is there something to it? Think anons, think.

So it’s Isis/Hathor and she resided = lived in the Gebal City-State for some time. The link between Gebal City-State and Ancient Egypt Hathor/Isis was STRONG. (((They))) tell us in this Wikipedia page that the Ancient Egyptians equate Baalat of Gebal = Lady of Gebal to Anat, but don’t give us a source, an artifact, and don’t tell us how or why. Incredible! We are supposed to believe (((their))) word. Seems like Dendera site is holding more than one secret/mystery.

Another beauty is this sentence: “Some Canaanite artworks depict a nude goddess with a curling wig taken from Hathor's iconography” = it’s incredible how vague this sentence is. We don’t know the name of the goddess, her description and where she was specifically worshiped. We also don’t know what these artifacts are and where they were found. (((They))) won’t tell you that a part of these artifacts representing this mysterious goddess were found in current day Israel. Shh! Nothing to see here. And just because 2 ladies have curly hair, it doesn’t mean they are one and same person. It simply means both have curly hair and that’s it.

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08c5a4  No.13938442

File: acc1f2c571bfd74⋯.jpg (221.81 KB, 854x576, 427:288, stele_Seven_Hathors.jpg)

>>13938429

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“Hathor's solar character may have played a role in linking her with trade: she was believed to protect ships on the Nile and in the seas beyond Egypt, as she protected the barque of Ra in the sky. The mythological wandering of the Eye goddess in Nubia or Libya gave her a connection with those lands as well.”

>> Isis played the same exact role (page 848), didn’t she? I keep on wondering why both deities were protecting ships. Is it something that’s got to do with the Great Flood and the Ark? Were they on board and protected the Ark with their special powers during the cataclysm? Or is this due to the Nile navigation? Maybe trade nagivation with the Phoenician and Chypriotes?

“Hathor was closely connected with the Sinai Peninsula, which was not considered part of Egypt proper but was the site of Egyptian mines for copper, turquoise, and malachite during the Middle and New Kingdoms. One of Hathor's epithets, "Lady of Mefkat", may have referred specifically to turquoise or to all blue-green minerals. She was also called "Lady of Faience", a blue-green ceramic that Egyptians likened to turquoise. Hathor was also worshipped at various quarries and mining sites in Egypt's Eastern Desert, such as the amethyst mines of Wadi el-Hudi, where she was sometimes called "Lady of Amethyst".

South of Egypt, Hathor's influence was thought to have extended over the land of Punt, which lay along the Red Sea coast and was a major source for the incense with which Hathor was linked, as well as with Nubia, northwest of Punt. The autobiography of Harkhuf, an official in the Sixth Dynasty (c. 2345–2181 BC), describes his expedition to a land in or near Nubia, from which he brought back great quantities of ebony, panther skins, and incense for the king. The text describes these exotic goods as Hathor's gift to the pharaoh.Egyptian expeditions to mine gold in Nubia introduced her cult to the region during the Middle and New Kingdoms, and New Kingdom pharaohs built several temples to her in the portions of Nubia that they ruled.

Afterlife

Hathor was one of several goddesses believed to assist deceased souls in the afterlife. One of these was Imentet, the goddess of the west, who personified the necropolises, or clusters of tombs, on the west bank of the Nile, and the realm of the afterlife itself. She was often regarded as a specialized manifestation of Hathor.

Just as she crossed the boundary between Egypt and foreign lands, Hathor passed through the boundary between the living and the Duat, the realm of the dead. She helped the spirits of deceased humans enter the Duat and was closely linked with tomb sites, where that transition began.The Theban necropolis, for example, was often portrayed as a stylized mountain with the cow of Hathor emerging from it. Her role as a sky goddess was also linked to the afterlife. Because the sky goddess—either Nut or Hathor—assisted Ra in his daily rebirth, she had an important part in ancient Egyptian afterlife beliefs, according to which deceased humans were reborn like the sun god. Coffins, tombs, and the underworld itself were interpreted as the womb of this goddess, from which the deceased soul would be reborn.

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e57682  No.13939916

File: f13e26fd2da915f⋯.png (903 B, 231x273, 11:13, hathors_sistrum.png)

>>13922874

Why did the presentation of the sistrum change?

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e57682  No.13940032

>>13939916

The current one shown on Wikipedia looks more like the one on page 974

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c93215  No.13944169

File: a27efae8a2b49bb⋯.jpg (34.3 KB, 370x500, 37:50, Hathor_Cow_head.jpg)

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>>13938442

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“Iconography

Hathor was often depicted as a cow bearing the sun disk between her horns, especially when shown nursing the king. She could also appear as a woman with the head of a cow. Her most common form, however, was a woman wearing a headdress of the horns and sun disk, often with a red or turquoise sheath dress, or a dress combining both colors. Sometimes the horns stood atop a low modius or the vulture headdress that Egyptian queens often wore in the New Kingdom. Because Isis adopted the same headdress during the New Kingdom, the two goddesses can be distinguished only if labeled in writing. When in the role of Imentet, Hathor wore the emblem of the west upon her head instead of the horned headdress. The Seven Hathors were sometimes portrayed as a set of seven cows, accompanied by a minor sky and afterlife deity called the Bull of the West.

Some animals other than cattle could represent Hathor. The uraeus was a common motif in Egyptian art and could represent a variety of goddesses who were identified with the Eye of Ra. When Hathor was depicted as a uraeus, it represented the ferocious and protective aspects of her character. She also appeared as a lioness, and this form had a similar meaning. In contrast, the domestic cat, which was sometimes connected with Hathor, often represented the Eye goddess's pacified form.When portrayed as a sycamore tree, Hathor was usually shown with the upper body of her human form emerging from the trunk.

Like other goddesses, Hathor might carry a stalk of papyrus as a staff, though she could instead hold a was staff, a symbol of power that was usually restricted to male deities. The only goddesses who used the was were those, like Hathor, who were linked with the Eye of Ra. She also commonly carried a sistrum or a menat necklace. The sistrum came in two varieties: a simple loop shape or the more complex naos sistrum, which was shaped to resemble a naos shrine and flanked by volutes resembling the antennae of the Bat emblem. Mirrors were another of her symbols, because in Egypt they were often made of gold or bronze and therefore symbolized the sun disk, and because they were connected with beauty and femininity. Some mirror handles were made in the shape of Hathor's face. The menat necklace, made up of many strands of beads, was shaken in ceremonies in Hathor's honor, similarly to the sistrum. Images of it were sometimes seen as personifications of Hathor herself.”

>> What are the odds the WAS staff is my little Sharur weapon = staff weapon held by the ThunderBirds mostly? I like it how they say that the Was Staff is linked to the Eye of Ra; pointing us that both are weapons. I wonder if they used to shoot the same thing = electricity or did it shoot some type of plasma or laser beam? Anons can see Hathor holding the Was Staff in page 971.

The sistrum is a weird instrument, isn’t it? It’s interesting how in its second form it resembles a naos. When you look at the Naos Sistrums, it actually looks like a portal = stargate and right in the middle of the “door way” there is a Wedjat depicted = electricity. This is another proof = apart the pictures I’ve posted before of the Light column coming from the sky with electricity around it – and Gudea’s Libation vase and Shamash symbol; that it is made of Light surrounded with electricity. If you think about it carefully, you will understand why the Bloodlines are using technology = machinery to attempt to reopen the Stargate = machines run on electricity and electricity is needed to at least go through the Stargate. All of this is another proof that the Wedjat is truly electricity depicted as standing Cobra ready to attach. It’s all connecting perfectly for me.

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672242  No.13944178

>>13940032

I meant it looks more like the picture of Hathor on the cylinder seal on page 974

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556ff4  No.13944248

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>>13944169

(Please read from the start)

The sistrum makes sounds, rattling sounds. I guess it depends on the design of the sistrum: there are different designs; so I’m guessing the sounds might be a tiny bit different from one sistrum to another. It’s the same principle with bells. The shape of the bell, the size and the thickness of the metal etc. all of these are factors which play into the sound made by a bell. I believe it’s the same for the sistrum. So I’m wondering is this a rattling sound like what a rattle snake does? Or is it a crackling sound like how electricity sounds? Or is it imitating the rumbling of Thunder?

I’ve attached to this page the sound one of the sistrum makes. Remember, there are different types of sistrums, so the sound can be different from one sistrum to another. I’m also putting to anons the link of another video of the sound of electricity = https://youtu.be/sC8R8otsT68

So anons, compare. What do you think? Is it close enough? If not, then do you have a proposition = alternative as to what the sistrum sound can be?

“Hathor was sometimes represented as a human face with bovine ears, seen from the front rather than in the profile-based perspective that was typical of Egyptian art. When she appears in this form, the tresses on either side of her face often curl into loops. This mask-like face was placed on the capitals of columns beginning in the late Old Kingdom. Columns of this style were used in many temples to Hathor and other goddesses.These columns have two or four faces, which may represent the duality between different aspects of the goddess or the watchfulness of Hathor of the Four Faces. The designs of Hathoric columns have a complex relationship with those of sistra. Both styles of sistrum can bear the Hathor mask on the handle, and Hathoric columns often incorporate the naos sistrum shape above the goddess's head.

Worship

Relationship with royalty

During the Early Dynastic Period, Neith was the preeminent goddess at the royal court, while in the Fourth Dynasty, Hathor became the goddess most closely linked with the king.The later dynasty's founder, Sneferu, may have built a temple to her, and a daughter of Djedefra was her first recorded priestess. Old Kingdom rulers donated resources only to temples dedicated to particular kings or to deities closely connected with kingship. Hathor was one of the few deities to receive such donations. Late Old Kingdom rulers especially promoted the cult of Hathor in the provinces, as a way of binding those regions to the royal court. She may have absorbed the traits of contemporary provincial goddesses.”

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672242  No.13944256

>>13944169

Thanks a lot!

There are two varieties of it. That is very interesting. With your brilliant articles and explanations the big picture is getting clearer and clearer! Thanks again!

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556ff4  No.13944311

>>13944178

>>13940032

>>13939916

Dear anon,

The focus is not on the design of the sistrum but the instrument itself. I don't care what the sistrum looks like, as long as it's a sistrum, that's what's important for the thread. I already stated that I had difficulties in transferring the glyphs from the link. The focus was on the sequence of glyphs, that's what's important.

If you are interested, you can go into the sistrum tunnel and study it. It's a fascinating little thing and I've seen similar objects being used in Eastern Churches, always wondered if the origins is not from Ancient Egypt. Loads of research tunnels to go in. Unfortunately , I cannot go into all of them myself. I better stick to my goals.

>>13944256

Hope you are enjoying the read. Please be a bit patient with me, I'm doing the best I can but the issue I'm tackling is huge as you can see, it's exhausting. Loads of head scratching to do in this thread. No wonder I'm bald after all of these years. The more I advance, the more you will understand the big picture. Thank you for your patience. Have a good Sunday.

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6346e5  No.13950002

>>13944248

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“Many female royals, though not reigning queens, held positions in the cult during the Old Kingdom. Mentuhotep II, who became the first pharaoh of the Middle Kingdom despite having no relation to the Old Kingdom rulers, sought to legitimize his rule by portraying himself as Hathor's son. The first images of the Hathor-cow suckling the king date to his reign, and several priestesses of Hathor were depicted as though they were his wives, although he may not have actually married them. In the course of the Middle Kingdom, queens were increasingly seen as directly embodying the goddess, just as the king embodied Ra. […]

The preeminence of Amun during the New Kingdom gave greater visibility to his consort Mut, and in the course of the period, Isis began appearing in roles that traditionally belonged to Hathor alone, such as that of the goddess in the solar barque. Despite the growing prominence of these deities, Hathor remained important, particularly in relation to fertility, sexuality, and queenship, throughout the New Kingdom.

After the New Kingdom, Isis increasingly overshadowed Hathor and other goddesses as she took on their characteristics. In the Ptolemaic period (305–30 BC), when Greeks governed Egypt and their religion developed a complex relationship with that of Egypt, the Ptolemaic dynasty adopted and modified the Egyptian ideology of kingship. Beginning with Arsinoe II, wife of Ptolemy II, the Ptolemies closely linked their queens with Isis and with several Greek goddesses, particularly their own goddess of love and sexuality, Aphrodite. Nevertheless, when the Greeks referred to Egyptian gods by the names of their own gods (a practice called interpretatio graeca), they sometimes called Hathor Aphrodite.Traits of Isis, Hathor, and Aphrodite were all combined to justify the treatment of Ptolemaic queens as goddesses. Thus, the poet Callimachus alluded to the myth of Hathor's lost lock of hair in the Aetia when praising Berenice II for sacrificing her own hair to Aphrodite, and iconographic traits that Isis and Hathor shared, such as the bovine horns and vulture headdress, appeared on images portraying Ptolemaic queens as Aphrodite.”

>> I’ve already explained it about the mutation and the distortion that started in the New Kingdom, but kicked heavily in starting the Ptolemaic rule. This paragraph is a confirmation to what I explained before to anons. The practice is called: the Greek Interpretation = as in the Greeks interpreted things according to their understanding and views, not as they were originally.

“Temples in Egypt

More temples were dedicated to Hathor than to any other Egyptian goddess. During the Old Kingdom her most important center of worship was in the region of Memphis, where "Hathor of the Sycamore" was worshipped at many sites throughout the Memphite Necropolis. During the New Kingdom era, the temple of Hathor of the Southern Sycamore was her main temple in Memphis. At that site she was described as the daughter of the city's main deity, Ptah. The cult of Ra and Atum at Heliopolis, northeast of Memphis, included a temple to Hathor-Nebethetepet that was probably built in the Middle Kingdom. A willow and a sycamore tree stood near the sanctuary and may have been worshipped as manifestations of the goddess. A few cities farther north in the Nile Delta, such as Yamu and Terenuthis, also had temples to her.

[…]”

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6346e5  No.13950016

File: 911f90f18e31001⋯.jpg (94.61 KB, 349x813, 349:813, Column_Hathor_reproduced.jpg)

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>>13950002

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“Dendera, Hathor's oldest temple in Upper Egypt, dates to at least to the Fourth Dynasty. After the end of the Old Kingdom it surpassed her Memphite temples in importance. Many kings made additions to the temple complex through Egyptian history. The last version of the temple was built in the Ptolemaic and Roman Periods and is today one of the best-preserved Egyptian temples from that time.”

>> So the records = archives at the Dendera Temple dated from back then. Impressive! No wonder they had records of Ancient machinery including the Lightbulbs and had advanced Astronomical knowledge (starting page 93).

“In the Old Kingdom, most priests of Hathor, including the highest ranks, were women. Many of these women were members of the royal family. In the course of the Middle Kingdom, women were increasingly excluded from the highest priestly positions, at the same time that queens were becoming more closely tied to Hathor's cult. Thus, non-royal women disappeared from the high ranks of Hathor's priesthood, although women continued to serve as musicians and singers in temple cults across Egypt.

The most frequent temple rite for any deity was the daily offering ritual, in which the cult image, or statue, of a deity would be clothed and given food. The daily ritual was largely the same in every Egyptian temple, although the goods given as offerings could vary according to which deity received them. Wine and beer were common offerings in all temples, but especially in rituals in Hathor's honor, and she and the goddesses related to her often received sistra and menat necklaces. In Late and Ptolemaic times, they were also offered a pair of mirrors, representing the sun and the moon.

Festivals

Many of Hathor's annual festivals were celebrated with drinking and dancing that served a ritual purpose. Revelers at these festivals may have aimed to reach a state of religious ecstasy, which was otherwise rare or nonexistent in ancient Egyptian religion. Graves-Brown suggests that celebrants in Hathor's festivals aimed to reach an altered state of consciousness to allow them interact with the divine realm. An example is the Festival of Drunkenness, commemorating the return of the Eye of Ra, which was celebrated on the twentieth day of the month of Thout at temples to Hathor and to other Eye goddesses. It was celebrated as early as the Middle Kingdom, but it is best known from Ptolemaic and Roman times. The dancing, eating and drinking that took place during the Festival of Drunkenness represented the opposite of the sorrow, hunger, and thirst that the Egyptians associated with death. Whereas the rampages of the Eye of Ra brought death to humans, the Festival of Drunkenness celebrated life, abundance, and joy.

[…]”

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6346e5  No.13950035

>>13950016

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>> In the Andean region there was the frequent use of hallucinogenic substances to get them into an “altered state of consciousness”. In Ancient Egypt, it seems there were no such drugs so instead they used alcohol. And just look how this practice mutated and changed to become a festival of drunkenness. The way it’s written it’s making me see similarities with the Bacchanalias practiced during the Roman times, which included sexual orgies of course. So this can explain why the cult of Hathor got associated to sexuality and Aphrodite, despite the fact there is not direct connection between both of them.

“Worship outside Egypt

Egyptian kings as early as the Old Kingdom donated goods to the temple of Baalat Gebal in Byblos, using the syncretism of Baalat with Hathor to cement their close trading relationship with Byblos. A temple to Hathor as Lady of Byblos was built during the reign of Thutmose III, although it may simply have been a shrine within the temple of Baalat. After the breakdown of the New Kingdom, Hathor's prominence in Byblos diminished along with Egypt's trade links to the city. A few artifacts from the early first millennium BC suggest that the Egyptians began equating Baalat with Isis at that time. A myth about Isis's presence in Byblos, related by the Greek author Plutarch in his work On Isis and Osiris in the 2nd century AD, suggests that by his time Isis had entirely supplanted Hathor in the city.”

>> What you are not told is that the cult of the Baalat diminished with younger generations in many Phoenician City-States and we started seeing the emergence of other deities. These deities were not ambiguous or mysterious ones as Baalat of Gebal was, but they were easily recognized like for example Eshmun, with specific characteristics.

“[…]

In contrast, the Nubians in the south fully incorporated Hathor into their religion. During the New Kingdom, when most of Nubia was under Egyptian control, pharaohs dedicated several temples in Nubia to Hathor, such as those at Faras and Mirgissa. Amenhotep III and Ramesses II both built temples in Nubia that celebrated their respective queens as manifestations of female deities, including Hathor: Amenhotep's wife Tiye at Sedeinga and Ramesses's wife Nefertari at the Small Temple of Abu Simbel. […]

Popular worship

In addition to formal and public rituals at temples, Egyptians privately worshipped deities for personal reasons, including at their homes. Birth was hazardous for both mother and child in ancient Egypt, yet children were much desired. Thus fertility and safe childbirth are among the most prominent concerns in popular religion, and fertility deities such as Hathor and Taweret were commonly worshipped in household shrines. Egyptian women squatted on bricks while giving birth, and the only known surviving birth brick from ancient Egypt is decorated with an image of a woman holding her child flanked by images of Hathor. In Roman times, terracotta figurines, sometimes found in a domestic context, depicted a woman with an elaborate headdress exposing her genitals, as Hathor did to cheer up Ra. The meaning of these figurines is not known, but they are often thought to represent Hathor or Isis combined with Aphrodite making a gesture that represented fertility or protection against evil.

[…]”

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6346e5  No.13950051

File: 296d2a09be0162c⋯.jpg (58.99 KB, 320x648, 40:81, Hathor_welcoming_Set_I_in_….JPG)

>>13950035

(Please read from the start)

>> So in other words Hathor was considered as a protector of pregnant women, birth and children. It fits with the image of the Lamassu as being the protector of mankind. As for what is written about the Roman times, I’ve already explained all there is about the mutation, so I’m not going to repeat it.

“Funerary practices

As an afterlife deity, Hathor appeared frequently in funerary texts and art. In the early New Kingdom, for instance, Osiris, Anubis, and Hathor were the three deities most commonly found in royal tomb decoration. In that period she often appeared as the goddess welcoming the dead into the afterlife. Other images referred to her more obliquely. Reliefs in Old Kingdom tombs show men and women performing a ritual called "shaking the papyrus". The significance of this rite is not known, but inscriptions sometimes say it was performed "for Hathor", and shaking papyrus stalks produces a rustling sound that may have been likened to the rattling of a sistrum. Other Hathoric imagery in tombs included the cow emerging from the mountain of the necropolis and the seated figure of the goddess presiding over a garden in the afterlife. […]”

>> This is interesting information: in the Old Kingdom times, they used to shake the papyrus. This might have been the earliest form of the sistrum. It evolved then into the metallic instrument we are familiar with. So this is the earliest form of the sistrum but it still doesn’t explain why they wanted to make that sound. What does it refer to? And I do like the idea of Hathor “presiding over a garden in the afterlife”: what garden are they talking about here?

“[…]. Tombs' festival imagery, however, may refer to festivals involving Hathor, such as the Festival of Drunkenness, or to the private feasts, which were also closely connected with her. Drinking and dancing at these feasts may have been meant to intoxicate the celebrants, as at the Festival of Drunkenness, allowing them to commune with the spirits of the deceased.

[…]”

>> I’ve already explained this and how I think alcohol was used instead of hallucinogenic substances in order to get into some type of trances or another state of consciousness in order to communicate with the other world.

One thing for sure about Hathor: she is projecting the image of being a protector of mankind just like the rest of the Lamassu warriors and also, they are on the side of the Thunderbirds.

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6346e5  No.13951477

File: 6ab719499afd102⋯.jpg (64.84 KB, 320x628, 80:157, Abu_Simbel_Nefartari_Sistr….jpg)

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>>13950051

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I want to take a quick look at the sistrum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistrum

“A sistrum (plural: sistra or Latin sistra; from the Greek σεῖστρον seistron of the same meaning; literally "that which is being shaken", from σείειν seiein, "to shake") is a musical instrument of the percussion family, chiefly associated with ancient Egypt. It consists of a handle and a U-shaped metal frame, made of brass or bronze and between 30 and 76 cm in width. When shaken, the small rings or loops of thin metal on its movable crossbars produce a sound that can be from a soft clank to a loud jangling. Its name in the ancient Egyptian language was sekhem (sḫm) and sesheshet (sššt).

Sekhem is the simpler, hoop-like sistrum, while sesheshet (an onomatopoeic word) is the naos-shaped one. The modern day West African disc rattle instrument is also called a sistrum.

Egyptian sistrum

The sistrum was a sacred instrument in ancient Egypt. Perhaps originating in the worship of Bat, it was used in dances and religious ceremonies, particularly in the worship of the goddess Hathor, with the U-shape of the sistrum's handle and frame seen as resembling the face and horns of the cow goddess. It also was shaken to avert the flooding of the Nile and to frighten away Set.”

>> This is a link to the point I was making about the sistrum being the sound of electricity; most probably the charge made between the Lamassu horns. Seth used to get frightened by it, this is very telling. Do you remember the idea behind the Hamsa that it used to be a protective means, which points to a weapon to defend one’s self? Here, you gotta ask yourself what can scare an enemy? It’s the same concept behind the tail of the rattlesnake: when it shakes its tails, it’s saying I’m here, to its prey and its foes. I think more and more that the crackling sound = the sistrum sound is the sound made by the Horn Weapon beam charge of the Lamassu. Also I think the idea of “averting” the flooding of the Nile is an echo to the Great Flood. I think the earliest of Ancient Egyptians thought that if the Lamassu Beam weapon declared its presence by making the sound like the sistrum, it’s signaling to the Horned Snake warrior that we are here, so don’t you dare attack or harm us = preventing another Great Flood. Yes anons, if you haven’t figured it out yet, it’s clear as day that the Horned Serpent caused the Great Cataclysm which the Great Flood was a part of. I will be gathering the rest of the piece of this puzzle before the full image is complete.

“Isis in her role as mother and creator was depicted holding a pail, symbolizing the flooding of the Nile, in one hand and a sistrum in the other.The goddess Bast often is depicted holding a sistrum also, with it symbolizing her role as a goddess of dance, joy, and festivity.

[…]”

>> Bast was a deity with a feline head which means she is a feline warrior. Isis, I think she is the Queen and most probably the head of the ThunderBirds as I’ve said before. So how come both are holding a sistrum = I think because both of the weapons used by the ThunderBirds and the Feline warriors also emitted electricity. It’s the Sharur for the ThunderBirds, we’ve already seen plenty of it in this thread. But what is the weapon of the feline Warriors? I have no idea what it could be.

“Minoan sistrum

The ancient Minoans also used the sistrum, and a number of examples made of local clay have been found on the island of Crete. […]”

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6346e5  No.13951498

File: d779996ac1c7e10⋯.png (3.69 KB, 50x567, 50:567, Was_Sceptre.png)

File: 0c5816d1245765a⋯.jpg (10.05 KB, 178x392, 89:196, Was_Staff_artifact.jpg)

>>13951477

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“The sistrum today

The sistrum has remained a liturgical instrument in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church throughout the centuries and is played during the dance performed by the debtera (cantors) on important church festivals. It is also occasionally found in Neopagan worship & ritual. […]”

Let’s take another quick look this time of the Was-Scepter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Was-sceptre

“The was (Egyptian wꜣs "power, dominion"[1]) sceptre is a symbol that appeared often in relics, art, and hieroglyphics associated with the ancient Egyptian religion. It appears as a stylized animal head at the top of a long, straight staff with a forked end.

Was sceptres were used as symbols of power or dominion, and were associated with ancient Egyptian deities such as Set or Anubis as well as with the pharaoh. Was sceptres also represent the Set animal. In later use, it was a symbol of control over the force of chaos that Set represented.”

>> So it was used by most deities, also representing Seth as an animal. But the last sentence is the most eye catching: the Was Scepter was used as a symbol of control over the forces of chaos that Seth represented. I think the Horned Serpents also stole the electrical Sharur Staff and used it as well. But the Sharur was mostly the weapon used by the ThunderBirds to repell the Horned Serpents.

“In a funerary context the was sceptre was responsible for the well-being of the deceased, and was thus sometimes included in the tomb equipment or in the decoration of the tomb or coffin. The sceptre is also considered an amulet. The Egyptians perceived the sky as being supported on four pillars, which could have the shape of the was. This sceptre was also the symbol of the fourth Upper Egyptian nome, the nome of Thebes (called wꜣst in Egyptian).

Was sceptres were depicted as being carried by gods, pharaohs, and priests. They commonly occur in paintings, drawings, and carvings of gods, and often parallel with emblems such as the ankh and the djed-pillar. Remnants of real was sceptres have been found. They are constructed of faience or wood, where the head and forked tail of the Set animal are visible. The earliest examples date to the First Dynasty.

The Was (wꜣs) is the Egyptian hieroglyph character representing power.”

>> This is very interesting. I don’t think this is the weapon of Seth exclusively, I think it was used by many warrior types. Check picture page 449.

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3066d9  No.13956239

File: 363fe82ce4a3809⋯.png (6.9 KB, 152x332, 38:83, Sekhmet.png)

>>13951498

(Please read from the start)

After going down a bit the Lamassu Sebetti tunnel and connecting the many tunnels together, including the ones with Horus via Hathor (for example) it’s time to continue where I left off about the Sebetti on page 970.

3-The Feline warriors were both male and female warriors. It seems we are dealing with the Land troops here anons. So far, I haven’t seen any winged felines warriors. The Feline warriors were seen all over the world.

In Ancient Egypt, We’ve seen the Eye of Ra (starting page 69) whom turned into the Feline and massacred loads of people; there is also Ra taking the shape of a Feline to slay Apep (page 76); we have Bes (starting page 937) as well. We do know we have 2 ladies feline warriors, both very famous in Ancient Egypt: Sekhmet and Bastet. So next I’m going to take a look at these 2 feline ladies.

I’m going to start with Sekhmet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sekhmet

“In Egyptian mythology, Sekhmet (/ˈsɛkˌmɛt/ or Sachmis (/ˈsækmɪs/), also spelled Sakhmet, Sekhet, Sakhet, or Scheme, among other spellings), is a warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing. She is depicted as a lioness. She was seen as the protector of the pharaohs and led them in warfare. Upon death, Sekhmet continued to protect them, bearing them to the afterlife.

Sekhmet is a solar deity, sometimes called the daughter of Ra and often associated with the goddesses Hathor and Bastet. She bears the Uraeus, which associates her with Wadjet and royalty, and the solar disk.”

>> Well here you go anons, it’s saying she was a daughter of the Sun, a warrior and a protector of mankind. She also used electricity in some type of weapon.

“Etymology

Sekhmet's name comes from the Ancient Egyptian word sḫm, which means "power or might". Sekhmet's name (Ancient Egyptian: sḫmt, /'sɛχmit/) is thus translated as "the (one who is) powerful or mighty". She also was given titles such as the "(One) Before Whom Evil Trembles", "Mistress of Dread", "Lady of Slaughter" and "She Who Mauls".

>> Quiet fierce isn’t she? This fierce personality of her is identical of that of Bes. I’m not surprised one bit to discover this: they were after all both of them Feline warriors, so they must share some type of common characteristics.

“Roles

Sekhmet was considered the daughter of the sun god, Ra, and was among the more important of the goddesses who acted as the vengeful manifestation of Ra's power, the Eye of Ra. Sekhmet was said to breathe fire, and the hot winds of the desert were likened to her breath. She was also believed to cause plagues, which were called her servants or messengers, although she was also called upon to ward off disease.”

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7f3a18  No.13956249

File: ede486348ea9d96⋯.jpg (140.17 KB, 1200x1600, 3:4, Granodiorite_sculpture_Sek….jpg)

>>13956239

(Please read from the start)

>> Electrical weapon can cause fires, right? So what type was her weapon: electricity, fire or both? As in electricity resulting in fires? Well, if Sekhmet causes massacres, of course she will bring plagues and other deceases.

“In a myth about the end of Ra's rule on the earth, Ra sends the goddess Hathor, in the form of Sekhmet, to destroy mortals who conspired against him. In the myth, Sekhmet's blood-lust was not quelled at the end of battle and led to her destroying almost all of humanity. To stop her Ra poured out beer dyed with red ochre or hematite so that it resembled blood. Mistaking the beer for blood, she became so drunk that she gave up the slaughter and returned peacefully to Ra.The same myth was also described in the prognosis texts of the Calendar of Lucky and Unlucky Days of papyrus Cairo 86637.”

>> We’ve already seen the Eye of Ra, starting page 69.

“In other versions of this story, Sekhmet grew angered at the deception and left Egypt, diminishing the power of the sun. This threatened the power and security of the world- thus, she was persuaded by the god Toth to return and restore the sun to its full glory.

Sekhmet was considered the wife of the god Ptah and mother of his son Nefertum. She was also said to be the mother of a lion god, Maahes.”

>> This is rather interesting! Nefertum, her son, rose from primal waters; this is referring to the Great Flood anons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nefertem

Maahes, another son of hers, “was a deity associated with war, protection, and weather, as well as that of knives, lotuses, and devouring captives. […] Maahes was said to fight Ra's archenemy, the serpent Apep, during Ra's nightly voyage” – this was taken from the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maahes

This information confirms that we are dealing with Land warriors here, not sky warriors like it was the case for the ThunderBirds and the Lamassu. But it’s also pointing me in the direction of their incredible weapon was some type of blade = close combat, NOT distance combat, just like what we’ve seen with Bes iconography (starting page 943).

“Iconography

Sekhmet was envisioned as a fierce lioness, and in art, was depicted as such, or as a woman with the head of a lioness, who was dressed in red, the color of blood. Sometimes the dress she wears exhibits a rosetta pattern over each breast, an ancient leonine motif, which can be traced to observation of the shoulder-knot hairs on lions. Occasionally, Sekhmet was also portrayed in her statuettes and engravings with minimal clothing or naked.”

>> This is interesting! So RED was her color = color of blood. But did anons notice the Rosetta on her breasts? Doesn’t this remind anon of the spirals on the chest of Pazuzu (page 948)? If the Feline Warrior used such blasters on the chest and it emitted Red Rays/Beams, then I understand why Sekhmet color was Red.

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7f3a18  No.13956255

File: 1d6157cf888671d⋯.jpg (150.8 KB, 1024x1020, 256:255, depositphotos_13574906_sto….jpg)

File: 364373c8afef5ba⋯.jpg (92.29 KB, 600x443, 600:443, sekhmet_relief.jpg)

File: 933d821d7d7b061⋯.jpg (364.95 KB, 1001x485, 1001:485, Gilded_bier_from_the_tomb_….jpg)

File: 35385165cec8a99⋯.jpg (73.92 KB, 800x723, 800:723, Egyptian_Aegis_with_the_he….jpg)

>>13956249

(Please read from the start)

“The royal biers were fashioned to represent Sekhmet symbolizing her role as protector, even in death. They are depicted in all images of the embalming rites, showing her head, the characteristic tufted tail, and her feet. In the tombs, the coffins were placed on them.

It is estimated that more than seven hundred statues of Sekhmet once stood in one funerary temple alone, that of Amenhotep III, on the west bank of the Nile.”

>> It’s clear she is a protector and a fierce one.

“Worship

During an annual festival held at the beginning of the year, a festival of intoxication, the Egyptians danced and played music to soothe the wildness of the goddess and drank great quantities of wine ritually to imitate the extreme drunkenness that stopped the wrath of the goddess—when she almost destroyed humanity. This may relate to averting excessive flooding during the inundation at the beginning of each year as well, when the Nile ran blood-red with the silt from up-stream.”

>> Same comments I made about extreme drunkenness when I was taking a look at Hathor. But I want to highlight once more the remark made of the “NILE ran BLOOD-RED with the SILT from UP-STREAM.” This is very important.

“In 2006, Betsy Bryan, an archaeologist with Johns Hopkins University excavating at the temple of Mut in Luxor (Thebes) presented her findings about the festival that included illustrations of the priestesses being served to excess and its adverse effects on them being ministered to by temple attendants. Participation in the festival was great, including by the priestesses and the population. Historical records of tens of thousands attending the festival exist. These findings were made in the temple of Mut because when Thebes rose to greater prominence Mut absorbed some characteristics of Sekhmet. These temple excavations at Luxor discovered a "porch of drunkenness" built onto the temple by the Pharaoh Hatshepsut during the height of her twenty-year reign.

During the Greek dominance in Egypt, note was made of a temple for Maahes that was an auxiliary facility to a large temple to Sekhmet at Taremu in the Delta region, a city which the Greeks called Leontopolis.”

>> Second picture I’ve attached with this page: What do you think anons? Is Sekhmet hair braided or is she wearing a helmet with a cotte of maille on the rear like what we see in page 807?

The last picture with this page: Remember the Greek Aegis, starting page 799? Notice the details in this artifact and how we have 2 Horus heads on each side of the Feline head. Interesting, isn’t it? I wonder if some body skin type of protective clothing was worn under each Sebetti armor and we came to identify it nowadays as the Aegis?

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f0c364  No.13963031

File: 4be88fa62b3214f⋯.png (6.4 KB, 158x318, 79:159, Bastet.png)

>>13956255

(Please read from the start)

Now let’s look quickly at Bastet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastet

“Bastet or Bast (Ancient Egyptian: bꜣstjt, Coptic /ʔuːˈβastə/) was a goddess of ancient Egyptian religion, worshiped as early as the Second Dynasty (2890 BCE). Her name also is rendered as B'sst, Baast, Ubaste, and Baset. In ancient Greek religion, she was known as Ailuros (Koinē Greek: αἴλουρος "cat").

Bastet was worshiped in Bubastis in Lower Egypt, originally as a lioness goddess, a role shared by other deities such as Sekhmet. Eventually Bastet and Sekhmet were characterized as two aspects of the same goddess, with Sekhmet representing the powerful warrior and protector aspect and Bastet, who increasingly was depicted as a cat, representing a gentler aspect.”

>> So Bastet appeared as early as the Second Dynasty and her original form is that of a lion but she mutated and changed into a cat to point her gentler side.

“Name

Bastet, the form of the name that is most commonly adopted by Egyptologists today because of its use in later dynasties, is a modern convention offering one possible reconstruction. In early Egyptian hieroglyphs, her name appears to have been bꜣstt. James Peter Allen vocalizes the original form of the name as buʔístit or buʔístiat, with ʔ representing a glottal stop. In Middle Egyptian writing, the second t marks a feminine ending but usually was not pronounced, and the aleph ꜣ ( ) may have moved to a position before the accented syllable, ꜣbst. By the first millennium, then, bꜣstt would have been something like *Ubaste (< *Ubastat) in Egyptian speech, later becoming Coptic Oubaste.

What the name of the goddess means remains uncertain. […]

Role in ancient Egypt

Bastet was originally a fierce lioness warrior goddess of the sun worshiped throughout most of ancient Egyptian history, but later she became Bastet, the cat goddess that is familiar today. She then was depicted as the daughter of Ra and Isis, and the consort of Ptah, with whom she had a son Maahes.

As protector of Lower Egypt, she was seen as defender of the king, and consequently of the sun god, Ra. Along with other deities such as Hathor, Sekhmet, and Isis, Bastet was associated with the Eye of Ra. She has been depicted as fighting the evil snake named Apep, an enemy of Ra. In addition to her solar connections, sometimes she was called "eye of the moon".”

>> So, she is a daughter of the Sun, a warrior that used the electrical weapon and she fought against the Horned Serpents. Why is she called the Eye of the Moon though? Remember how Horus Left Eye = the Moon, was plucked out by Seth? Is there a connection here? Why is the Moon cited in both cases as an EYE?

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f0c364  No.13963037

File: a98e1f44a30c785⋯.jpg (59.2 KB, 418x600, 209:300, Bastet_statue.jpg)

File: 970f62f9dd41316⋯.jpg (124.97 KB, 926x1200, 463:600, Bastet_statuette.jpg)

File: c5a70704daecc73⋯.jpg (45.88 KB, 416x625, 416:625, Bastet_with_sistrum.jpg)

>>13963031

(Please read from the start)

“Bastet was also a goddess of pregnancy and childbirth, possibly because of the fertility of the domestic cat.”

>> Incorrect assumption. There is a pattern here anons: Bes, Sekhmet and Bastet all are Feline warriors and all were protectors of children, pregnancy, childbirth and fertility. And of course we can add Hathor to the bunch despite her being a Lamassu warrior. I think this is pointing us in a very specific direction that these Feline warriors were against the pedovores and they protected the children from them.

“Images of Bastet were often created from alabaster. The goddess was sometimes depicted holding a ceremonial sistrum in one hand and an aegis in the other—the aegis usually resembling a collar or gorget, embellished with a lioness head.

Bastet was also depicted as the goddess of protection against contagious diseases and evil spirits.”

>> Here we have loads of reoccurring elements we’ve seen mostly with other Feline warriors or other warriors protecting mankind. The Aegis seems to be the common point to ALL types of warriors, from the Lamassu, to ThunderBirds and now the Feline ones. If you look closely to all the goddesses from Ancient Egypt so far you will notice that they all wear a tight body dress. I think this is the Aegis. Anons can look for the pictures of the artifacts I’ve already posted in Sekhmet and Bes, also Hathor for the sistrum.

“History

Bastet first appears in the third millennium BC, where she is depicted as either a fierce lioness or a woman with the head of a lioness.Two thousand years later, during the Third Intermediate Period of Egypt (c. 1070–712 BC), Bastet began to be depicted as a domestic cat or a cat-headed woman.

Scribes of the New Kingdom and later eras began referring to her with an additional feminine suffix, as Bastet. The name change is thought to have been added to emphasize pronunciation of the ending t sound, often left silent.”

>> That’s one heck of a jump = 2000 years apart.

“Cats in ancient Egypt were highly revered, partly due to their ability to combat vermin such as mice, rats (which threatened key food supplies), and snakes—especially cobras. Cats of royalty were, in some instances, known to be dressed in golden jewelry and were allowed to eat from the plates of their owners. Dennis C. Turner and Patrick Bateson estimate that during the Twenty-second Dynasty (c. 945–715 BC), Bastet worship changed from being a lioness deity into being predominantly a major cat deity. Because domestic cats tend to be tender and protective of their offspring, Bastet was also regarded as a good mother and sometimes was depicted with numerous kittens.”

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f0c364  No.13963049

File: f1f3ef4a6f25600⋯.jpg (85.06 KB, 480x600, 4:5, Various_Bastet_artifacts.jpg)

>>13963037

(Please read from the start)

“The native Egyptian rulers were replaced by Greeks during an occupation of Ancient Egypt in the Ptolemaic Dynasty that lasted almost 300 years. The Greeks sometimes equated Bastet with one of their goddesses, Artemis.”

>> Leave it to the Greeks to mess things up. I think they linked Bastet to Artemis because of the Moon.

“Bubastis

Bastet was a local deity whose religious sect was centered in the city that became named, Bubastis. It lay in the Nile Delta near what is known today as Zagazig. The town, known in Egyptian as pr-bꜣstt (also transliterated as Per-Bastet), carries her name, literally meaning House of Bastet. It was known in Greek as Boubastis (Βούβαστις) and translated into Hebrew as Pî-beset, spelled without the initial t sound of the last syllable. In the biblical Book of Ezekiel 30:17, the town appears in the Hebrew form Pibeseth.”

>> One misspelling and poof, we have a new name for the town. And it had to be the Book of Ezekiel (face palm).

“At the Bubastis temple, some cats were found to have been mummified and buried, many next to their owners. More than 300,000 mummified cats were discovered when Bastet's temple was excavated. Turner and Bateson suggest that the status of the cat was roughly equivalent to that of the cow in modern India. The death of a cat might leave a family in great mourning and those who could, would have them embalmed or buried in cat cemeteries—pointing to the great prevalence of the cult of Bastet. Extensive burials of cat remains were found not only at Bubastis, but also at Beni Hasan and Saqqara. In 1888, a farmer uncovered a burial site of many hundreds of thousands of cats in Beni Hasan.

Festival

Herodotus also relates that of the many solemn festivals held in Egypt, the most important and most popular one was that celebrated in Bubastis in honor of this goddess. Each year on the day of her festival, the town was said to have attracted some 700,000 visitors, both men and women (but not children), who arrived in numerous crowded ships. The women engaged in music, song, and dance on their way to the place. Great sacrifices were made and prodigious amounts of wine were drunk—more than was the case throughout the year. This accords well with Egyptian sources that prescribe that lioness goddesses are to be appeased with the "feasts of drunkenness".A festival of Bastet was known to be celebrated during the New Kingdom at Bubastis. The block statue from the eighteenth dynasty (c. 1380 BC) of Nefer-ka, the wab-priest of Sekhmet, provides written evidence for this. The inscription suggests that the king, Amenhotep III, was present at the event and had great offerings made to the deity.”

>> Well anons, the information we got from Bastet only confirms what we already know about the Feline warriors.

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1907fd  No.13971198

File: 9f042974818597b⋯.jpg (198.19 KB, 1300x970, 130:97, ancient_assyrian_wall_carv….jpg)

File: d36f2fb3d37c35c⋯.png (64.1 KB, 320x384, 5:6, Tiamat_drawing.png)

File: 272fe268815f46e⋯.jpg (52.21 KB, 480x640, 3:4, Anunnaki_relief_feline_man.jpg)

File: eb3d0345d788bbb⋯.jpg (160.57 KB, 649x319, 59:29, Lion_Anunnaki_cylinder_sea….jpg)

>>13963049

(Please read from the start)

In Mesopotamia, we’ve seen the Feline warriors on different reliefs, including on the second register of the bronze Plaque from Hell. We do have some reliefs with Feline warriors from Assyrians times and some from Babylonian times. I’m attaching their pictures for anons to see- see also page 909. For me, this is a tricky situation because they are from a much later period; so can I rely on the iconography? These Feline humanoids hold the names of Ugallu and Tiamat which was winged. I don’t think the winged ones are my good and protective Feline Warriors as I had seen them in Ancient Egypt, but I think they are more like Pazuz, Humbaba and Lamashtu = they serve evil = they are the Horned Serpent clan, or at least traitors working for the Horned Serpent Clan. As in they are multi-morph.

As anons can see in picture one with this page, the felines are holding daggers = blades. As I just said, these are Assyrian and Babylonian reliefs, so we gotta be careful. And as I just said, I’m suspecting Ugallu and Tiamat to be on the same side as the Horned Serpent.

I found a relief of a feline Warrior holding a dagger blade with only the word Anunnaki as file name, so I’m unsure from which period this one comes from. I couldn’t verify the authenticity of this relief nor find out to which era it belongs. I’m sorry anons.

But I did find a very interesting Cylinder Seal Imprint where we can clearly see a man wearing a Feline skin and he is holding something like that a sword with some type of spikes coming out of its lower extremity = probably fire or lightning – original picture in page 909. Behind and above him, we see some of the exact same weapons depicted in the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell (page 965). Right in front of him there are 3 stars depicted vertically, one on top of the other; each with 8 rays.

Right in front of these stars there is a King sitting on his throne with 2 stars of 6 rays on top of his head. He is holding some type of circular beads or maybe a wreath in his left hand while he has something unidentifiable (possible a pine cone) in his lifted right hand; as if he was going to give it to the person standing in front of him or blessing him with it. The seat = king’s throne is resting on the back of what looks like a Feline = pointing to a specific land.

There is a man standing in front of the king, with his left hand extended in a gesture as if he was accepting something = palm open upwards and extended forward. While with his lifted right hand he is pointing in front of him. Right above his right hand, we have the 7 dots we saw in the upper register of the bronze Plaque of Hell. It’s the weapon of the Horned Serpent Warriors. Finding it here on this cylinder seal imprint, right above this man standing in front of the king, is making me believe that this person is a from the Serpent Sebetti clan = Horned Serpent warriors; maybe even their leader = the Serpent Sebetti.

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1907fd  No.13971233

File: 70cdb634556230c⋯.jpg (27.1 KB, 400x533, 400:533, Mayan_Jaguars_Discovered_i….jpg)

File: 497a037203cf358⋯.png (213.54 KB, 512x288, 16:9, New_Palpa_Geoglyph_discove….png)

>>13971198

(Please read from the start)

In Mesoamerica, there are several mentions of Feline warriors, mostly the Jaguar, if I remember correctly. Anons can go back and re-read everything themselves. I’m going to present for anons attached to this page a picture of a ceramic statue found in Al Salvador. This statue is a Mayan warrior wearing a Feline Armor. It speaks volumes on itself.

In the Andean Region we have already seen plenty of Feline warriors; like the Lanzon at Chavin de Huantar (page 371), like the Puma Punku at Tiwanaku culture (page 484) and like Sacsayhuamán fortress shaped like a Feline from the Incas (page 537). These are just a few among many examples from that part of the world.

I would like to point out there is an extremely rare iconography in the Tiwanaku culture of a winged Feline warrior; like the pottery piece on page 475 (third picture) and like on page 479 (first and second pictures). This is a rare iconography for the Feline warrior since most are without wings in the older eras.But it’s not all! I’m going to provide 2 additional items for anons:

First item is a new feline addition to the Geoglyphs from Palpa, of the Paracas culture. . I just discovered this very recently, in the Andean region, and it was published after I finished with that region: http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/cat-geoglyph-nazca-lines-08970.html

“Archaeologists Discover Cat Geoglyph at Nazca Lines Site

Oct 21, 2020

Archaeologists with the Nazca-Palpa Management Plan of Peru’s Ministry of Culture have discovered a 2,100-year-old figure of a relaxing feline in the Nazca Desert, southern Peru.

The geoglyphs of Nazca are a series of drawings located in the desert plains of the Rio Grande de Nazca river basin about 400 km (250 miles) south of Lima, the capital and the largest city of Peru.

The monuments were created between 500 BCE and 500 CE by ancient people making depressions or shallow incisions in the desert floor, removing pebbles and leaving differently colored dirt exposed.

They depict living creatures, stylized plants and imaginary beings, as well as geometric figures several km long.

They became a UNESCO World Heritage site in 1994, and are among archaeology’s greatest enigmas because of their quantity, nature, size and continuity.

The newly-discovered cat geoglyph measures about 37 m (121.4 feet) in length.

“The figure was barely visible and was about to disappear due to its location on a fairly steep slope and the effects of natural erosion,” the archaeologists said.”

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1907fd  No.13971297

File: 67c21fcfecda566⋯.jpg (489.18 KB, 2871x1914, 3:2, 1500_years_old_claws_intre….jpg)

File: 10b2d0734ced6b1⋯.jpg (64.43 KB, 636x382, 318:191, Feline_claws_Moche_culture.jpg)

>>13971233

(Please read from the start)

“The new geoglyph dates from between 200 BCE and 100 BCE (Late Paracas period).

“Representations of felines of this type are frequent in the iconography of ceramics and textiles of the Paracas society,” the researchers said.

“With this discovery, once again, the rich and varied cultural legacy that the area harbors, which is also within the area inscribed on the UNESCO World Heritage List, is revealed.”

Second item is a very intriguing one: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/1-500-year-old-claws-intrigue-archaeologists-peru-n154151

“1,500-Year-Old Claws Intrigue Archaeologists in Peru

Archaeologists in Peru say they have unearthed the previously unknown tomb of a nobleman from a pre-Inca culture known as the Moche.

July 12, 2014

Archaeologists in Peru say they have unearthed the previously unknown tomb of a nobleman from a pre-Inca civilization known as the Moche. The tomb contained the remains of an adult male, plus artifacts indicating the man's elite status, according to the Peruvian newspaper El Comercio.

Among the most intriguing artifacts are ornamental metal pieces fashioned to look like feline paws with claws. The paws may have been part of a ritual costume used in ceremonial combat, El Comercio reported. The loser would be sacrificed, while the winner would get the costume.

Archaeologist Santiago Uceda, co-director of the Huaca de la Luna excavation in the Peruvian city of Trujillo, displayed the pieces as well as a copper scepter, bronze earrings, a mask and ceremonial ceramics on Thursday. "The scepter signifies power; the earrings, status; and the ceramic piece is typical of an elite personage," Uceda told El Comercio.

He said the tomb and its contents, which are thought to be 1,500 years old, could shed new light on the Moche culture, an agricultural and artistic society that collapsed around the year 800.”

>> It’s way obvious that this is a tomb of a person with a high status. What are the chances this is pointing to a Feline warrior?

Looking at these claws I’m reminded of blades; which strangely resonates perfectly with the iconography we’ve got from Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia about the Blade being the weapon of the Feline warriors. This is all about the Feline Sebetti, for now anyway.

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a7c2d7  No.13979422

File: b7256d74a01b59c⋯.png (392.21 KB, 1200x2571, 400:857, Anubis_standing.png)

File: b1b87ff60646f54⋯.jpg (108.85 KB, 800x674, 400:337, Golden_wolf_in_Ngorongor_C….jpg)

>>13971297

(Please read from the start)

4 - There are no known Canine humanoids in Mesopotamia, Mesoamerica or the Andean region, as far as I can tell. But there are examples of it in Ancient Egypt and one of them is Anubis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis

“Anubis or Inpu, Anpu in Ancient Egyptian (/əˈnjuːbɪs/; Ancient Greek: Ἄνουβις, Egyptian: inpw, Coptic: Anoup) is the Greek name of the god of death, mummification, embalming, the afterlife, cemeteries, tombs, and the Underworld, in ancient Egyptian religion, usually depicted as a canine or a man with a canine head. Archeologists have identified Anubis's sacred animal as an Egyptian canid, the African golden wolf. The African wolf was formerly called the "African golden jackal", until a 2015 genetic analysis updated the taxonomy and the common name for the species. As a result, Anubis is often referred to as having a "jackal" head, but this "jackal" is now more properly called a "wolf".”

>> So it’s a wolf and not a dog. It makes more sense if it’s a wolf. If this is a Sebetti warrior clan, than it’s gotta be fierce and not cute.

“Like many ancient Egyptian deities, Anubis assumed different roles in various contexts. Depicted as a protector of graves as early as the First Dynasty (c. 3100 – c. 2890 BC), Anubis was also an embalmer. By the Middle Kingdom (c. 2055–1650 BC) he was replaced by Osiris in his role as lord of the underworld. One of his prominent roles was as a god who ushered souls into the afterlife. He attended the weighing scale during the "Weighing of the Heart", in which it was determined whether a soul would be allowed to enter the realm of the dead. Despite being one of the most ancient and "one of the most frequently depicted and mentioned gods" in the Egyptian pantheon, Anubis played almost no role in Egyptian myths.”

>> Interesting! He’s barely mentioned in ancient myths.

“Anubis was depicted in black, a color that symbolized regeneration, life, the soil of the Nile River, and the discoloration of the corpse after embalming. Anubis is associated with his brother Wepwawet, another Egyptian god portrayed with a dog's head or in canine form, but with grey or white fur. Historians assume that the two figures were eventually combined. Anubis' female counterpart is Anput. His daughter is the serpent goddess Kebechet.”

>> It was super hard to find any other Wolf warriors elsewhere. Now, I’ve got 3 on my hands - 4 if I include evil Seth multi-morph. Ancient Egypt is the only place where I found this type of Sebetti warriors.

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a7c2d7  No.13979433

File: 16b503ce091bc43⋯.jpg (54.55 KB, 667x500, 667:500, Tutankhamun_jackal.jpg)

>>13979422

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“Name

"Anubis" is a Greek rendering of this god's Egyptian name. Before the Greeks arrived in Egypt, around the 7th century BC, the god was known as Anpu or Inpu. The root of the name in ancient Egyptian language means "a royal child." Inpu has a root to "inp," which means "to decay." The god was also known as "First of the Westerners," "Lord of the Sacred Land," "He Who is Upon his Sacred Mountain," "Ruler of the Nine Bows," "The Dog who Swallows Millions," "Master of Secrets," "He Who is in the Place of Embalming," and "Foremost of the Divine Booth." The positions that he had were also reflected in the titles he held such as "He Who Is upon His Mountain," "Lord of the Sacred Land," "Foremost of the Westerners," and "He Who Is in the Place of Embalming." In the Old Kingdom (c. 2686 BC – c. 2181 BC), the standard way of writing his name in hieroglyphs was composed of the sound signs inpw followed by a jackal over a ḥtp sign:

A new form with the jackal on a tall stand appeared in the late Old Kingdom and became common thereafter.

Anubis' name jnpw was possibly pronounced [a.ˈna.pʰa(w)], based on Coptic Anoup and the Akkadian transcription 𒀀𒈾𒉺<a-na-pa> in the name <ri-a-na-pa> "Reanapa" that appears in Amarna letter EA 315. However, this transcription may also be interpreted as rˁ-nfr, a name similar to that of Prince Ranefer of the Fourth Dynasty.”

>> Look at all of those meanings of his name and his titles. It’s obvious he is something else. So Anubis was considered of Royalty. Was he THE WOLF SEBETTI as in the King of the Wolf Clan warriors? Or was he his direct descendant? He is most likely a direct descendant of the Wolf Sebetti king/leader. Also could be a high ranking vassal of the Wolf Sebetti clan. In order to see the Hieroglyph anons, must use the link.

“History

In Egypt's Early Dynastic period (c. 3100 – c. 2686 BC), Anubis was portrayed in full animal form, with a "jackal" head and body. A jackal god, probably Anubis, is depicted in stone inscriptions from the reigns of Hor-Aha, Djer, and other pharaohs of the First Dynasty. Since Predynastic Egypt, when the dead were buried in shallow graves, jackals had been strongly associated with cemeteries because they were scavengers which uncovered human bodies and ate their flesh. In the spirit of "fighting like with like," a jackal was chosen to protect the dead, because "a common problem (and cause of concern) must have been the digging up of bodies, shortly after burial, by jackals and other wild dogs which lived on the margins of the cultivation."

In the Old Kingdom, Anubis was the most important god of the dead. He was replaced in that role by Osiris during the Middle Kingdom (2000–1700 BC). In the Roman era, which started in 30 BC, tomb paintings depict him holding the hand of deceased persons to guide them to Osiris.”

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552c8b  No.13979490

File: 763019906da09b7⋯.jpg (145.97 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Statuette_Anubis_Ptolemaic….jpg)

File: 72d33237a94cee2⋯.jpg (130.1 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Anubis_statuette.jpg)

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>>13979433

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“The parentage of Anubis varied between myths, times and sources. In early mythology, he was portrayed as a son of Ra. In the Coffin Texts, which were written in the First Intermediate Period (c. 2181–2055 BC), Anubis is the son of either the cow goddess Hesat or the cat-headed Bastet. Another tradition depicted him as the son of Ra and Nephthys. The Greek Plutarch (c. 40–120 AD) stated that Anubis was the illegitimate son of Nephthys and Osiris, but that he was adopted by Osiris's wife Isis:

For when Isis found out that Osiris loved her sister and had relations with her in mistaking her sister for herself, and when she saw a proof of it in the form of a garland of clover that he had left to Nephthys - she was looking for a baby, because Nephthys abandoned it at once after it had been born for fear of Seth; and when Isis found the baby helped by the dogs which with great difficulties lead her there, she raised him and he became her guard and ally by the name of Anubis.”

>> See how much it mutated and changed? See how Plutarch tells the story of Anubis birth? The correct answer is always the oldest, as in Anubis is the son of Ra = he is a son of the Sun. Not a big surprise there.

“George Hart sees this story as an "attempt to incorporate the independent deity Anubis into the Osirian pantheon." An Egyptian papyrus from the Roman period (30–380 AD) simply called Anubis the "son of Isis.

In the Ptolemaic period (350–30 BC), when Egypt became a Hellenistic kingdom ruled by Greek pharaohs, Anubis was merged with the Greek god Hermes, becoming Hermanubis. The two gods were considered similar because they both guided souls to the afterlife. The center of this cult was in uten-ha/Sa-ka/ Cynopolis, a place whose Greek name means "city of dogs." In Book XI of The Golden Ass by Apuleius, there is evidence that the worship of this god was continued in Rome through at least the 2nd century. Indeed, Hermanubis also appears in the alchemical and hermetical literature of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.

Although the Greeks and Romans typically scorned Egyptian animal-headed gods as bizarre and primitive (Anubis was mockingly called "Barker" by the Greeks), Anubis was sometimes associated with Sirius in the heavens and Cerberus and Hades in the underworld. In his dialogues, Plato often has Socrates utter oaths "by the dog" (Greek: kai me ton kuna), "by the dog of Egypt", and "by the dog, the god of the Egyptians", both for emphasis and to appeal to Anubis as an arbiter of truth in the underworld.”

>> Simply because Anubis was a Canine, he was associated to both Sirius and Cerberus. The Greeks explained things according to their own views and belief – not as they really are. Same thing used by the Bloodlines/Kabbalah.

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d29ec3  No.13988020

File: 04f486fefaf4d9a⋯.jpg (60.06 KB, 550x367, 550:367, Mural_of_Anubis_and_the_de….jpg)

>>13979490

(Please read from the start)

“Roles

Protector of tombs

In contrast to real wolves, Anubis was a protector of graves and cemeteries. Several epithets attached to his name in Egyptian texts and inscriptions referred to that role. Khenty-Amentiu, which means "foremost of the westerners" and was also the name of a different canine funerary god, alluded to his protecting function because the dead were usually buried on the west bank of the Nile. He took other names in connection with his funerary role, such as tpy-ḏw.f (Tepy-djuef) "He who is upon his mountain" (i.e. keeping guard over tombs from above) and nb-t3-ḏsr (Neb-ta-djeser) "Lord of the sacred land", which designates him as a god of the desert necropolis.

The Jumilhac papyrus recounts another tale where Anubis protected the body of Osiris from Set. Set attempted to attack the body of Osiris by transforming himself into a leopard. Anubis stopped and subdued Set, however, and he branded Set's skin with a hot iron rod. Anubis then flayed Set and wore his skin as a warning against evil-doers who would desecrate the tombs of the dead. Priests who attended to the dead wore leopard skin in order to commemorate Anubis' victory over Set. The legend of Anubis branding the hide of Set in leopard form was used to explain how the leopard got its spots.

Most ancient tombs had prayers to Anubis carved on them.”

>> This is amazing. Anubis was among those whom protected the body of Osiris, which indicates he was a warrior. But not just any type of warrior, seems he is some type of smart type of warrior as in a scientist type of warrior. Why am I saying this? Because Anubis seems to be in charge of medically and technologically taking care of the dead = as in a medical or scientific way. He’s gotta have knowledge and practice in medicine and knows how to operate ancient machinery in order to do that.

But this paragraph holds another notable information. Seth took the shape of a leopard to attack the dead body of Osiris. This means there were traitors among the Feline warriors ranks. Same goes for the Wolf warrior clan. The warrior in the shape of Seth is part of the Wolf warrior clan but he betrayed his leader and fought alongside the Horned Serpents. He also agreed to merge his armor to the stolen technologies from other clans. This is how we are unable to identify which animals these “deities” represent = these multi-morphs. It’s the same situation for Humbaba Lamashtu, Pazuzu, etc. Each one betrayed their own original clans and rallied the ranks of the Horned Serpents. Others like Nergal took on the role of spies and infiltrated other clans to gather many types of information, including to steal military = weapons + armors technology.

Another notable information is what Anubis did to Seth in the Feline form = he skinned him = took off his skin. I think this means Anubis either took the Aegis Feline Seth was wearing or he took his armor away from him. The Anubis put the leopard skin on him, as in he either wore the Aegis or the armor himself.

I’m also curious about Anubis BRANDING Seth. Strangely, it reminds me of the “Mark of the Beast”. He used a hot iron rod to brand Feline Seth. I wonder what this could be, what this could really be? Is this the Sharur staff used to burn Feline Seth with electricity? Or is this a mark “worn” genetically by the Evil One and his descendants? I mean is it pointing us to the genetic illness of the Evil One clan like what we read about with the Jackal in the Dogon Culture? A genetic illness that cannot be cured? Loads to think about here anons.

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d29ec3  No.13988032

File: 340ce96f5122fe6⋯.jpg (2.53 MB, 2691x2118, 897:706, ancientegypt_Anubis_.jpg)

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>>13988020

(Please read from the start)

“Embalmer

As jmy-wt (Imiut or the Imiut fetish) "He who is in the place of embalming", Anubis was associated with mummification. He was also called ḫnty zḥ-nṯr "He who presides over the god's booth", in which "booth" could refer either to the place where embalming was carried out or the pharaoh's burial chamber.

In the Osiris myth, Anubis helped Isis to embalm Osiris. Indeed, when the Osiris myth emerged, it was said that after Osiris had been killed by Set, Osiris's organs were given to Anubis as a gift. With this connection, Anubis became the patron god of embalmers; during the rites of mummification, illustrations from the Book of the Dead often show a wolf-mask-wearing priest supporting the upright mummy.”

>> Well anons, this is what I was trying to say that Anubis is some sort of scientist warrior. He’s got his hands in the medical field and even technology for some reason, apart him holding a weapon and fighting. It’s like the medical team in the army or the engineering team; if you know what I mean there?

“Guide of souls

By the late pharaonic era (664–332 BC), Anubis was often depicted as guiding individuals across the threshold from the world of the living to the afterlife. Though a similar role was sometimes performed by the cow-headed Hathor, Anubis was more commonly chosen to fulfill that function. Greek writers from the Roman period of Egyptian history designated that role as that of "psychopomp", a Greek term meaning "guide of souls" that they used to refer to their own god Hermes, who also played that role in Greek religion. Funerary art from that period represents Anubis guiding either men or women dressed in Greek clothes into the presence of Osiris, who by then had long replaced Anubis as ruler of the underworld.”

>> This comes from the LATE period, so be careful of the mutation.

“Weighing of the heart

One of the roles of Anubis was as the "Guardian of the Scales." The critical scene depicting the weighing of the heart, in the Book of the Dead, shows Anubis performing a measurement that determined whether the person was worthy of entering the realm of the dead (the underworld, known as Duat). By weighing the heart of a deceased person against Ma'at (or "truth"), who was often represented as an ostrich feather, Anubis dictated the fate of souls. Souls heavier than a feather would be devoured by Ammit, and souls lighter than a feather would ascend to a heavenly existence.”

>> I truly believe this is real, this is true. I believe this is what Christ came to make us aware of. It’s to tell us that we are judged by what we hold inside our hearts. Our heart is the key for us to enter Heaven. It doesn’t matter how many times you pray or how well you know the Scriptures, if your heart is dark, then you do not enter Heaven. Your actions in life reflect what you hold inside of your heart = who you are. If you are kind and compassionate you will think of others and do your best to help them. If you are selfish, then you will NOT think of others and not what’s happening to others. You will be judged according to what you hold in your heart.

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d29ec3  No.13988050

File: d7aa34b00dc9341⋯.jpg (34.03 KB, 385x650, 77:130, Mask_of_Anubis.jpg)

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>>13988032

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“Portrayal in art

Anubis was one of the most frequently represented deities in ancient Egyptian art. He is depicted in royal tombs as early as the First Dynasty. The god is typically treating a king's corpse, providing sovereign to mummification rituals and funerals, or standing with fellow gods at the Weighing of the Heart of the Soul in the Hall of Two Truths. One of his most popular representations is of him, with the body of a man and the head of a jackal with pointed ears, standing or kneeling, holding a gold scale while a heart of the soul is being weighed against Ma'at's white truth feather.

In the early dynastic period, he was depicted in animal form, as a black canine. Anubis's distinctive black color did not represent the animal, rather it had several symbolic meanings. It represented "the discolouration of the corpse after its treatment with natron and the smearing of the wrappings with a resinous substance during mummification." Being the color of the fertile silt of the River Nile, to Egyptians, black also symbolized fertility and the possibility of rebirth in the afterlife. In the Middle Kingdom, Anubis was often portrayed as a man with the head of a jackal. An extremely rare depiction of him in fully human form was found in the tomb of Ramesses II in Abydos.

Anubis is often depicted wearing a ribbon and holding a nḫ3ḫ3 "flail" in the crook of his arm. Another of Anubis's attributes was the jmy-wt or imiut fetish, named for his role in embalming.

In funerary contexts, Anubis is shown either attending to a deceased person's mummy or sitting atop a tomb protecting it. New Kingdom tomb-seals also depict Anubis sitting atop the nine bows that symbolize his domination over the enemies of Egypt.

Worship

Although he does not appear in many myths, he was extremely popular with Egyptians and those of other cultures. The Greeks linked him to their god Hermes, the god who guided the dead to the afterlife. The pairing was later known as Hermanubis. Anubis was heavily worshipped because, despite modern beliefs, he gave the people hope. People marveled in the guarantee that their body would be respected at death, their soul would be protected and justly judged.

Anubis had male priests who sported wood masks with the god's likeness when performing rituals. His cult center was at Cynopolis in Upper Egypt but memorials were built everywhere and he was universally revered in every part of the land.

In popular culture

In popular and media culture, Anubis is often falsely portrayed as the sinister god of the dead. He gained popularity during the 20th and 21st centuries through books, video games, and movies where artists would give him evil powers and a dangerous army. Despite his nefarious reputation, his image is still the most recognizable of the Egyptian gods and replicas of his statues and paintings remain popular.”

>> Hollywood surely likes to portray Anubis in a negative, evil image simply because he was thought to lead the dead to the other side and rule the “underground”. Mummy movie is an example.

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1405c9  No.13996133

File: 50e67d2e7b5a4a3⋯.jpg (16.51 KB, 236x429, 236:429, Wepwawet.jpg)

>>13988050

(Please read from the start)

Well, since I don’t have much “samples” of Wolf warriors outside of Ancient Egypt, I’m going to take a look at the ones we have over there; apart Anubis of course. Seth, he may have been a member of the Wolf warriors clan, but he betrayed them and turned into a Multi-morph servant fighting for the Horned Serpent clan. So I cannot consider him as a true Wolf warrior. Same goes for other multi-morph traitors from other clans.

So the first one I want to check is Wepwawet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wepwawet

“In late Egyptian mythology, Wepwawet (hieroglyphic wp-w3w.t; also rendered Upuaut, Wep-wawet, Wepawet, and Ophois) was originally a war deity, whose cult centre was Asyut in Upper Egypt (Lycopolis in the Greco-Roman period). His name means opener of the ways and he is often depicted as a wolf standing at the prow of a solar-boat. Some interpret that Wepwawet was seen as a scout, going out to clear routes for the army to proceed forward. One inscription from the Sinai states that Wepwawet "opens the way" to king Sekhemkhet's victory.”

>> I like this idea of Wepwawet being a scout. It does fit perfectly with the warrior image of the Wolf Clan.

“Wepwawet originally was seen as a wolf deity, thus the Greek name of Lycopolis, meaning city of wolves, and it is likely the case that Wepwawet was originally just a symbol of the pharaoh, seeking to associate with wolf-like attributes, that later became deified as a mascot to accompany the pharaoh. Likewise, Wepwawet was said to accompany the pharaoh on hunts, in which capacity he was titled (one with) sharp arrow more powerful than the gods alone.”

>> So he was an archer. That’s his weapon. Same thing mentioned about Anubis in page 1 003 with his title of “Ruler of the 9 Bows” = archer.

“Over time, the connection to war and thus to death led to Wepwawet also being seen as one who opened the ways to, and through, Duat, for the spirits of the dead. Through this, and the similarity of the jackal to the wolf, Wepwawet became associated with Anubis, a deity that was worshiped in Asyut, eventually being considered his son. Seen as a jackal, he also was said to be Set's son. Consequently, Wepwawet often is confused with Anubis.This deity appears in the Temple of Seti I at Abydos.”

>> Be careful when digging into this anons, do not confuse both deities. They may look similar, but both are 2 warriors belonging to the same clan.

“In later Egyptian art, Wepwawet was depicted as a wolf or a jackal, or as a man with the head of a wolf or a jackal. Even when considered a jackal, Wepwawet usually was shown with grey, or white fur, reflecting his lupine origins. He was depicted dressed as a soldier, as well as carrying other military equipment—a mace and a bow.”

>> Strangely on the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, weapon number 6 fits perfectly with the arrow image (page 965). While weapon number 5 fits the mace that Wepwawet holds as well. And it seems here as well, they switched the weapon place, just like they did to weapons 2 & 3 for the ThunderBirds and Lamassu. Which is making me believe that the mystery Sebetti number 6, the one I couldn’t identify, also yields the same weapons (or at least one of them) as the Wolf Sebetti. This is a symmetrical design we have here on the upper register anons. Two parallel inversions in the same exact place on each side to indicate the use of the same weapon by 2 Sebetti warriors and not one like it’s the case for the first weapon+Sebetti.

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1405c9  No.13996142

File: 26d98361f6fbb34⋯.jpg (207.45 KB, 530x800, 53:80, AbydosSethosCh_191_Wepwawe….jpg)

>>13996133

(Please read from the start)

“For what generally is considered to be lauding purposes of the pharaohs, a later myth briefly was circulated claiming that Wepwawet was born at the sanctuary of Wadjet, the sacred site for the oldest goddess of Lower Egypt that is located in the heart of Lower Egypt. Consequently, Wepwawet, who had hitherto been the standard of Upper Egypt alone, formed an integral part of royal rituals, symbolizing the unification of Egypt.”

>> I’m not surprised to read that Later Generation thought Wepwawet was born in the Wedjat sanctuary (by the way, there are many ways to write to Wedjat, I’m just used to this one). Wepwawet was a warrior from the Wolf Clan and we already know that each clan had its own type of weapon. From page 894, we also know there are 7 different hieroglyphs to depict the Wedjat, which is electricity beam coming out of these 7 different weapons. Seven different hierglyphs = each hieroglyph depicts one of the special weapons and they all emit the same electrical beam: that’s what they have in common = electricity.

The reason why we have switched places like that from the weapons it’s because 2 Sebetti warriors used similar weapons. As an example, I will give the second and third weapon. The second weapon = the horns also produce electricity like what we see with Hathor (starting page 972), if the weapons weren’t displayed as they were on the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, we would have only known about the electrical ability of the Lamassu warrior. But since they switched the places with the third weapon, we also know that the Lamassu warriors used to fly. They used to fly in a different method than the one used by the ThunderBirds. They didn’t use the Jet Suits like it’s the case for the ThunderBirds, but they use Fighter Jets, just like the pilots of AirForce nowadays. Both ThunderBirds & Lamassu used electrical weapon and used flying machinery, but they were simply from different types. Here with the Wolf clan weapons, we have the same situation, as in Sebetti 5 and 6 share the same type of weapons.

“In later Pyramid Texts, Wepwawet is called "Ra" who has gone up from the horizon, perhaps as the "opener" of the sky. In the later Egyptian funerary context, Wepwawet assists at the Opening of the mouth ceremony and guides the deceased into the netherworld.”

“In popular culture

[…]

Animal origin

The Egyptian jackal (Canis aureus lupaster) also known as the African wolf or wolf jackal is currently listed as a subspecies of the golden jackal but molecular and osteological data has established that it is a unique species in its own right. It is native to Egypt, Libya, and Ethiopia, though its post-Pleistocene range once encompassed the Palestine region.

Its closest relatives are the Abyssinian wolf, also known as the red wolf and the king jackal, and the Indian wolf. The dogs of ancient Egypt were likely domesticated subspecies of one or more of these enigmatic species.”

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7ae19e  No.14004328

File: 3b2b9f64cce74fb⋯.jpg (3.75 KB, 91x218, 91:218, Anput.jpg)

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>>13996142

(Please read from the start)

Next I want to check Anput: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anput

“Anput is a goddess in ancient Egyptian religion. Her name is written in hieroglyphs as jnpwt (reconstructed in Middle Egyptian as /ʔan.ˈpa.wat/ or /jan.ˈpa.wat/). In English, her name also is rendered as Anupet, Input, Inpewt, and Yineput. As the female counterpart of her husband, Anubis, who was known as jnpw to the Egyptians, Anput's name ends in a feminine "t" suffix when seen as jnpwt.

She was often depicted as a pregnant or nursing jackal, or as a jackal wielding knives. She also is depicted as a woman, with a headdress showing a jackal recumbent upon a feather. Probably the most notable example of this representation is that of the statue of the triad of Hathor, Menkaure, and Anput. She occasionally is depicted as a woman with the head of a jackal, but this is very rare.

Mythology

Anput is the female counterpart of the god Anubis. She is also a goddess of the seventeenth nome of Upper Egypt. She is also considered the protector of the body of Osiris.”

>> Here you go anons, she is a warrior whom protected the body of Osiris with the others. We’ve got a new detail telling us she used blades as a weapon.

She is recognized in the Triad of Menkaure by her crown. Notice the details.

From the looks of it the Wolf warriors are also part of the Land Troops, but since they use arrows, we can say they have a double function of archers and swordsmen = using blades. They are long range and short range fighters. On page 965, notice weapons 5 and 6 from upper register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell and compare to the weapons Wepwawet is holding in page 1 008.

The last point I want to check is Kebechet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebechet

“In Egyptian mythology, Kebechet (spelt in hieroglyphs as Qeb-Hwt, and also transliterated as Khebhut, Kebehut, Qébéhout, Kabehchet and Kebehwet) is a goddess, a deification of embalming liquid. Her name means cooling water.

Myths

Kebechet is a daughter of Anubis and his wife Anput. In the Pyramid Texts, Kebechet is referred to as a serpent who "refreshes and purifies" the pharaoh.

Kebechet was thought to give water to the spirits of the dead while they waited for the mummification process to be complete. She was probably related to mummification where she would fortify the body against corruption, so it would stay fresh for reanimation by the deceased's ka.”

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7ae19e  No.14004383

File: 604a0b74f02ad70⋯.jpg (396.22 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, liquid_nitrogen.jpg)

File: acb55e1cd20a16d⋯.jpg (169.36 KB, 1000x550, 20:11, Silver_grey_snake.jpg)

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>>14004328

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>> This is not a human being. This is an object or some substance. Not just any substance, but one in a liquid form. Why in a liquid form? Well because liquid can be poured out and while doing that, it can look like a snake/serpent.

The first thought that came to my mind is actually liquid nitrogen. It’s an incredible cooling agent, superfast at that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_nitrogen

“Liquid nitrogen—LN2—is nitrogen in a liquid state at low temperature. Liquid nitrogen has a boiling point of about −195.8 °C (−320 °F; 77 K). It is produced industrially by fractional distillation of liquid air. It is a colorless, low viscosity liquid that is widely used as a coolant.”

>> But as anons can see, liquid nitrogen doesn’t look much like a snake, does it now? So the second thing I thought of was actually liquid mercury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)

“Mercury is a chemical element with the symbol Hg and atomic number 80. It is commonly known as quicksilver and was formerly named hydrargyrum. A heavy, silvery d-block element, mercury is the only metallic element that is liquid at standard conditions for temperature and pressure […].

History

Mercury was found in Egyptian tombs that date from 1500 BC. […]”

>> Also found in Ancient China Tombs and as we’ve seen in this thread under the Temple of the Feathered Serpent in Teotihuacan (page 299).

“Historic uses

[…]

Similarly, liquid mercury was used as a coolant for some nuclear reactors; however, sodium is proposed for reactors cooled with liquid metal, because the high density of mercury requires much more energy to circulate as coolant.[…]”

>> This is getting interesting, isn’t it? Mostly when we know there is a liquid mercury lake under that Pyramid in Teotihuacan. I said back then, that the Pyrite spheres might be used as something that conducts electricity (light), in some way, maybe creating some type of magnetic field. Here I find out that liquid mercury might be used as a coolant for nuclear energy. I’m not a chemist nor an expert in such matters, but it’s obvious there is some type of connection here. I’m not that smart to figure it out. I hope someone reading might step in and help clear this up or propose some type of alternative liquid that acts like a cooling agent but that also looks like a snake. If it’s not liquid nitrogen or mercury, then what could it be? Any suggestions anyone?

Last idea: to be able to use such an element it means we are dealing with advanced knowledge in science, mostly Physics and Chemistry. Perfect fit for Anubis/Wolf character.

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114c33  No.14012856

File: ab01bc8a582110a⋯.png (416.78 KB, 1200x2366, 600:1183, Khnum_.png)

File: 2ea33025b39dc4a⋯.jpg (1.67 MB, 1800x1651, 1800:1651, Egyptian_Bust_of_a_Ram_Hea….jpg)

>>14004383

(Please read from the start)

5 - For the Ram warrior, it’s not that widespread as the ThunderBirds and the Lamassu warriors.

I don’t know if anons already noticed but on page 660, third picture, the first statue is wearing a RAM helmet. He can be seen in the background of the second picture, same page. This means at least one Ram warrior existed in that region.

In Ancient Egypt, we’ve already got one piece of information that the Ram is linked to Osiris (page 837). It’s not the only presence of the Ram in Ancient Egypt. We also have a god with a Ram head there called Khnum and we are going to check him out next: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khnum

“Khnum or also romanised Khnemu (/kəˈnuːm/; Ancient Egyptian: ẖnmw, Koinē Greek: Χνοῦβις) was one of the earliest-known Egyptian deities, originally the god of the source of the Nile. Since the annual flooding of the Nile brought with it silt and clay, and its water brought life to its surroundings, he was thought to be the creator of the bodies of human children, which he made at a potter's wheel, from clay, and placed in their mothers' wombs. He was later described as having moulded the other deities, and he had the titles "Divine Potter" and "Lord of created things from himself".”

>> Do anons see what I see? Does this mean Khnum was protector of children? And I adore the sentence of him being the god of the “source of the Nile”. Do you remember what I keep on telling anons about the rivers? = Chronological Spine. Follow the Rivers anons ^_~

“General information

The worship of Khnum centered on two principal riverside sites, Elephantine and Esna, which were regarded as sacred sites. At Elephantine, he was worshipped alongside Satis and Anuket. At Esna, he was worshipped alongside Menhit, Nebtu, Neith and Heka. Khnum was regarded as the guardian of the source of the Nile River. His significance led to early theophoric names of him, for children, such as Khnum-Khufwy "Khnum is my Protector", the full name of Khufu, builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

Khnum has also been related to the deity Min.”

>> The temple at Esna was built during Ptolemaic period, so be careful.

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114c33  No.14012864

File: 60fda59fc320542⋯.jpg (208.47 KB, 1280x1707, 1280:1707, Statue_of_Khnum.jpg)

>>14012856

(Please read from the start)

“Temple at Elephantine

The temple at Elephantine was dedicated to Khnum, his consort Satis, and their daughter, Anuket. The temple dates back to at least the Middle Kingdom. By the Eleventh Dynasty, Khnum, Satis and Anuket are all attested at Elephantine.

During the New Kingdom, finds from the time of Ramesses II show Khnum was still worshipped there.

Opposite Elephantine, on the east bank at Aswan, Khnum, Satis and Anuket are shown on a chapel wall dating to the Ptolemaic Kingdom.

Temple at Esna

In Esna, a temple was dedicated to Khnum, Neith and Heka, among other deities. This temple began construction in Ptolemaic times, but most of the surviving parts of the temple were built in Roman times.

Khnum is sometimes depicted as a crocodile-headed god. Nebt-uu and Menhit are Khnum's principal consorts and Heka is his eldest son and successor. Both Khnum and Neith are referred to as creator deities in the texts at Esna. Khnum is sometimes referred to as the "father of the fathers" and Neith as the "mother of the mothers". They later become the parents of Ra, who is also referred to as Khnum-Re.”

>> This is from later period anons.

“Other

The Temple of Beit el-Wali of Ramesses II contained statues of Khnum, Satis and Anukis, along with statues of Isis and Horus.

In other locations, such as Herwer (Tuna el-Gebel perhaps), as the moulder and creator of the human body, he was sometimes regarded as the consort of Heket, or of Meskhenet, whose responsibility was breathing life into children at the moment of birth, as the kꜣ ("ka").

Artistic conventions

In art, Khnum was usually depicted as a ram-headed man at a potter's wheel, with recently created children's bodies standing on the wheel. He was also shown holding a jar from which flowed a stream of water.”

>> Well, that’s not much information, isn’t it anons?

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b3d52c  No.14020427

File: 6e1a92945af30bc⋯.jpg (259.26 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Khnum.jpg)

File: 38b859ad6c046b9⋯.jpg (123.01 KB, 675x439, 675:439, Egyptian_God_Ra_Barque_Boo….jpg)

File: 639edb95e52b46f⋯.jpg (269.48 KB, 1087x1600, 1087:1600, Khnum_tomb_Valley_of_the_Q….jpg)

File: 6b204ab1f31d44f⋯.jpg (270.98 KB, 700x295, 140:59, Black_Panther_Border_Tribe….jpg)

File: f169f9ddfeba8e9⋯.jpg (217.25 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Winged_Khnum_Dendera.jpg)

>>14012864

(Please read from the start)

Let’ see the information archaeology is going to provide for us:

First item is a relief of Khnum with 9 Wedjats depicted on his horns = between them. We have a single central Wedjat which is depicted bigger and taller than the rest. And on each side of that central bigger Wedjat, we have a row of 4 smaller Wedjats. Since we found out that the Wedjat is electricity depicted in the shape of a snake/serpent, then it means, just like it’s the case of the Lamassu warriors = it’s electricity produced by 2 rods looking like animal horns. If we follow the same reasoning as we did for the Lamassu horns, we will reach that conclusion.

The second item is a mural where Khnum is depicted in a barque. Here Khnum is represented with the solar disk between his horns just like Hathor usually is = another indication that this is electricity. Khnum is also holding the Was Staff in his right hand. In front of that Scepter we can see a serpent represented, standing upright and it has a solar disk depicted on top of it. All of this is telling us, indicating to us that the Was Scepter has electric abilities = it’s my Sharur weapon.

The zigzag yellowish snake we see around the canopy also represents electricity. This indicates there is an electrical current flowing around the canopy and barque, or through it. If there is electricity flowing like that on a boat, doesn’t this indicate it’s a mechanical boat = a machine?

The third item is another mural of Khnum where he is holding in each hand a short blade type of weapon. Which is strange enough, it fits the weapon number four in the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell = there we see what looks like a solar shield with some type of two narrow staffs or blades, kinda linked to one another. As for the solar shield: it could be one of 3 things:

1 – a real shield decorated like that.

2 – a type of beam just like what the symbol of Shamash looks like on page 814.

3 – both combined as in some sort of beam that is used as a shield.

This last idea is not that weird when you watch the movie called Black Panther. In that movie, the Border Tribe uses some type of electro-magnetic shield during battle as seen in the 4th picture attached to this page. Using electro-magnetic type of energy shields is not new or unseen in Hollywood movies. We’ve seen plenty of movies with it in them. So nothing new here.

The last item is a relief from Dendera Temple complex where Khnum is represented among stars with 2 pairs of wings. Did he have wings like the ThunderBirds or the Lamassu warriors? I don’t think the Ram warrior did. Originally, I don’t think he had wings; this is most likely added later on, by later generations. It’s clear the Ram warriors were part of the Land troops.

There are 3 things I want to check from the Khnum Wikipedia page.

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f2e8ec  No.14028711

File: 7889212a37243d5⋯.jpg (16.72 KB, 150x479, 150:479, Satis_mural.jpg)

File: 35dd19b063d3ad4⋯.jpg (84.97 KB, 1169x1536, 1169:1536, Satis_statuette_Brooklyn_M….jpg)

>>14020427

(Please read from the start)

Satis is the first one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satis_(goddess)

“Satet, Satit or Satjet, Satjit in Ancient Egyptian (Ancient Egyptian: Sṯt or Sṯıt, lit. "Pourer" or "Shooter"), Greek: Satis, also known by numerous related names, was an Upper Egyptian goddess who, along with Khnum and Anuket, formed part of the Elephantine Triad. A protective deity of Egypt's southern border with Nubia, she came to personify the former annual flooding of the Nile and to serve as a war, hunting, and fertility goddess.

She was sometimes conflated with Isis and Sopdet, goddess of the bright star Sirius, which the Egyptians connected with the onset of the Nile flooding. Under the interpretatio graeca, she was conflated with Hera and Juno.”

>> Satis is connected to Sirius. She is a warrior.

“Names

The exact pronunciation of Egyptian is often uncertain since vowels were not recorded until a very late period. In transcription, the goddess's name also appears as Setis, Sati, Setet, Satet, Satit, and Sathit. Derived from sṯ, meaning "eject", "shoot", "pour", or "throw", her name can be variously translated as "She who Shoots" or "She who Pours" depending on which of her roles is being emphasized.

Her name was originally written with the hieroglyph for a linen garment's shoulder knot (S29); this was later replaced by Anuket's animal hide pierced by an arrow (F29). She was also known by epithets, such as "Mistress of Elephantine" and "She Who Runs Like an Arrow", thought to refer to the flowing river current. “

>> From the sound of it, she is an archer type of warrior.

“History

A goddess of the Upper Egyptians, her cult is first attested on jars beneath the Step Pyramid of Saqqara (Dynasty III). She appears in the Pyramid Texts (Dynasty VI) purifying a deceased pharaoh's body with four jars of water from Elephantine.

Her principal center of worship was at Abu (Elephantine), an island in Aswan on the southern edge of Egypt. Her temple there occupied an early predynastic site shown by Wells to be aligned with the star Sirius. Other centers include Swenet (Aswan proper) and Setet (Sehel Island nearby). She was particularly associated with the upper reaches of the Nile, which the Egyptians sometimes considered to have its source near Aswan. She is invoked in Aramaic as Sati on a divorce document in the Elephantine papyri.”

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f2e8ec  No.14028734

File: fb70fc2b2b09f1e⋯.jpg (570.53 KB, 945x1378, 945:1378, Satis_the_archer_imaginary….jpg)

File: 87a7967eb05dff3⋯.jpg (55.2 KB, 400x600, 2:3, Satis_hugging_Tutmose_III_….jpg)

File: 9b187eb54a68c4b⋯.jpg (130.27 KB, 485x728, 485:728, Satis_crown.jpg)

>>14028711

(Please read from the start)

>> So her temple, built since PRE-DYNASTIC times, in Elephantine was aligned with Sirius. Interesting! She is also known in the Aramaic language. Nice!

“Myths

As a war goddess, Satis protected Egypt's southern Nubian frontier by killing the enemies of the pharaoh with her sharp arrows.

As a fertility goddess, she was thought to grant the wishes of those who sought love.

She seems to have originally been paired with the Theban god Montu but later replaced Heket as the consort of Khnum, guardian of the source of the Nile. By Khnum, her child was Anuket, goddess of the Nile. After Khnum was conflated with Ra, she sometimes became an Eye of Ra in place of Hathor.

Together Khnum, Anuket, and Satis formed the Elephantine Triad.

Representation

Satis was usually pictured as a woman in a sheath dress wearing the hedjet, the conical crown of Upper Egypt, with antelope horns. She is sometimes depicted with bow and arrows; holding an ankh or scepter; or offering jars of purifying water.

She also appears in the form of an antelope.

Her symbols were the arrow and the running river.”

>> I’ve got a missing Sebetti anons, the one I couldn’t identify on page 963 – 5th point. Also Satis is an archer, just perfect for the switching of weapon places on the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell as explained in page 1 008, last paragraph. So what do you think? Did I just found my last Sebetti? Or is this some type of sub-group squadron related to the Ram Sebetti = army hierarchy?

Also that horned crown of her is just perfect as a weapon if we compare it to the Ram and the Lamassu warriors = same type. What do you think Anons: is my last Sebetti the Antelope Sebetti? How many Antelopes we’ve seen on those Palettes anons? All of those animals we saw on the palettes (starting page 114), were they really animals or were they Sebetti warriors depicted in their animal form = symbolic way? What we see on those palettes is the battles between the Feline and the Antelope Sebettis. I think I’ve found my missing Sebetti anons = it’s the Antelope Sebetti.

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319349  No.14036394

File: 5b0e4bf6b0158a6⋯.png (55.1 KB, 320x713, 320:713, Anuket_svg.png)

>>14028734

(Please read from the start)

Next is Anuket: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anuket

“Anuket was the ancient Egyptian goddess of the cataracts of the Nile and Lower Nubia in general, worshipped especially at Elephantine near the First Cataract.

Etymology

In ancient Egyptian, she was known as Anuket, Anaka, or Anqet. Her name meant the "Clasper" or "Embracer". In Greek, this became Anoukis (Ανουκις), sometimes also spelled Anukis. In the interpretatio graeca, she was considered equivalent to Hestia or Vesta.

in the beginning Anqet was the water goddess of Sudan whose name means "Embrace". This meant that during the annual flood of the Nile she would embrace the two banks of Nile and make them fertile. The two tributaries of the Nile were called the extended hands of goddess Anuket. which is why she was nicknamed, "The woman who embraces". The other titles of Anuket included "The woman who throws", which is basically an indication of the flood of the Nile. She was also known as "Life Giver" and "Women of the sky".

She gradually came to be known as the cupid goddess of ancient Egypt. Her features and signs of perverted tastes were found among worshippers & are similar to those of the Greek goddess Hestia, who swore to maintain her virginity and Artemis the skilled hunter-gatherer.”

>> Anuket surely changed a lot with time didn’t she? She went from the image of Hugging (because of the Nile Flooding the two banks = hugging them metaphorically) to playing a role similar to Cupid; with some “perverted” tastes among her worshipers = I wonder what that REALLY means. We somehow jumped from the chaste Hestia image to the erotic Aphrodite image of Anuket. If this is not mutation, I don’t know what is. Or was there a hidden secret about the nature of Anuket cult that was revealed later on?

“Depictions

Anuket was usually depicted as a woman with a headdress of either reed or ostrich feathers She was usually depicted as holding a sceptre topped with an ankh, and her sacred animal was the gazelle. She was also shown suckling the pharaoh through the New Kingdom and became a goddess of lust in later years. In later periods, she was associated with the cowry, especially the shell, which resembled the vagina.

>> The only notable here is her “association” with the Gazelle = horned animal. For the rest = face palm.

“History and roles

She was originally the daughter of Ra, but was always related to Satet in some way. For example, both goddesses were called the "Eye of Ra", along with Bastet, Hathor, and Sekhmet. Also, they were both related in some way to the Uraeus.”

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319349  No.14036409

File: 1b17d6b7ffa403a⋯.jpg (212.6 KB, 541x659, 541:659, head_of_goddess_anukis_met….jpg)

File: 07147c64cf795b0⋯.jpg (103 KB, 410x640, 41:64, Anuket_relief.jpg)

>>14036394

(Please read from the start)

>> Three very important sentences here:

Sentence 1: Anuket was the daughter of Ra = daughter of the Sun. For some unknown reason, she is always related to Satet = Satis….did you guess how this is connected? = the Antelope/Gazelle = the horns….this is how both deities were related “in some way”. I think this is indicating that both belonged to the same clan = the last mysterious Sebetti.

Sentence 2: Anuket, like Satis, was called the Eye of Ra: meaning she was a warrior and used a powerful weapon, just like Sekhmet and Hathor etc. were.

Sentence 3: Anuket and Satis were “in some way” (I’m starting to like this “in some way” – chuckles) were connected to the Uraeus. The Uraeus was made of the Wadjet (=Lightning depicted as a snake) and Nekhbet (= a ThunderBird warrior). I understand that Anuket is a warrior, she uses a weapon that emits electricity. Same goes for Satis by the way.

“Worship

Anuket was part of a triad with the god Khnum, and the goddess Satis. She may have been the sister of the goddess Satis or she may have been a junior consort to Khnum instead.

A temple dedicated to Anuket was erected on the Island of Seheil. Inscriptions show that a shrine or altar was dedicated to her at this site by the 13th Dynasty pharaoh Sobekhotep III. Much later, during the 18th Dynasty, Amenhotep II dedicated a chapel to the goddess.

During the New Kingdom, Anuket's cult at Elephantine included a river procession of the goddess during the first month of Shemu. Inscriptions mention the processional festival of Khnum and Anuket during this period.

Ceremonially, when the Nile started its annual flood, the Festival of Anuket began. People threw coins, gold, jewelry, and precious gifts into the river, in thanks to the goddess for the life-giving water and returning benefits derived from the wealth provided by her fertility. The taboo held in several parts of Egypt, against eating certain fish which were considered sacred, was lifted during this time, suggesting that a fish species of the Nile was a totem for Anuket and that they were consumed as part of the ritual of her major religious festival.”

>> Well anons, I want to put the Antelope/Gazelle as the unidentified last Sebetti. By the way, the iconography of Anuket doesn’t bring new information, so I simply put a couple of samples for researcher whom are interested in this.

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90642f  No.14043069

File: 6833d57b8a636b5⋯.png (239.35 KB, 1200x2657, 1200:2657, Neith_svg.png)

>>14036409

(Please read from the start)

The third and last thing I want to check is the goddess Neith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neith

“Neith /ˈniː.ɪθ/ (Koinē Greek: Νηΐθ, a borrowing of the Demotic form Ancient Egyptian: nt, likely originally to have been nrt "she is the terrifying one"; Coptic: also spelled Nit, Net, or Neit) was an early ancient Egyptian deity. She was said to be the first and the prime creator, who created the universe and all it contains, and that she governs how it functions. She was the goddess of the cosmos, fate, wisdom, water, rivers, mothers, childbirth, hunting, weaving, and war.”

>> Holy Heavens! Read and reread this slowly anons. Neith names means = the terrifying one. It echoes with what was said about the Sebetti on page 789 = the champions without peer, the personified weapons and the terrifying Seven. I have a big smile on my face, right now.

Neith is also SAID to be the PRIME and FIRST CREATOR of the Universe and all it contains. She also governs how the Universe functions as in she was a queen.

Look at her characteristics anons and of what Neith was the goddess of: Cosmos, FATE, WISDOM, Rivers, Mothers, CHILDBIRTH, Hunting, Weaving and WAR. Where did we see an almost identical deity in this thread before? = it’s Isis (starting page 846).

Loads of anons are going to ask: how can this be? It’s easy anons, go read back Isis (page 849). First of all Isis’ is not a name, it’s her title that was confused as being her name. In Ancient Egypt her name was ꜣst which meant QUEEN (I call her Isis out of habit despite that I know it’s wrong to do so). Second, in the same page, it’s said that ISIS wasn’t mentioned in NAME, along with Osiris, until the 5th Dynasty in the Old Kingdom. But we know that their cult was incredibly old, going back to pre-dynastic times. Their Egyptians names (ꜣst & ꜣsjr) didn’t show up till the Fifth Dynasty. So what were these 2 names called before = during pre-dynastic times and during the first 4 Dynasties? Where was Isis during these ancient times? What was her name? What was she called?

As for Neith name is an epithet which means the terrifying one; which indicates we still don’t have the real name of the Queen. But the cult of Neith dates back to pre-dynastic times; which means it’s older than the cult of Isis. I’m in the mindset Isis is Neo-Neith = as in a mutated, softer form of Neith.

Not convinced anons? Well, let’s continue to read about Neith to see if the Old Man is right or wrong.

“Neith was the tutelary deity of Sais (Coptic: Sai from Egyptian Zau), where her cult was centered in the western Nile Delta of Lower Egypt. It is attested as early as the First Dynasty. Neith was also one of the three tutelary deities of the southern city of Latopolis (Koinē Greek: Λατόπολις) or Esna (Snē) (Sahidic Coptic: ⲥⲛⲏ from earlier Egyptian: t3-snt, also iwnyt) Latopolis was located on the western bank of the River Nile some 55 kilometres (34 mi) south of Luxor (Thebes).”

>> Neith was from Lower Egypt just like how Isis was. What a coincidence?!

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90642f  No.14043100

File: 40d05b46fb7c50c⋯.jpg (14.99 KB, 359x274, 359:274, neith_different_iconograph….jpg)

>>14043069

(Please read from the start)

“Symbolism

Neith is a far more complex goddess than is generally known, however, and of whom ancient texts only hint of her true nature. A religious silence was imposed by ancient Egyptians for secrecy, employing euphemisms and allusions and often relying on symbols alone. In her usual representations, she is portrayed as a fierce deity, a woman wearing the Red Crown, occasionally holding or using the bow and arrow, in others, a harpoon. Neith also is a goddess of war and of hunting and that is the symbolism depicted most often. Her symbol was two arrows crossed over a shield. In fact, the hieroglyphs of her name usually are followed by a determinative containing the archery elements, with the shield symbol of the name being explained as either double bows (facing one another), intersected by two arrows (usually lashed to the bows), or, by other imagery associated with her worship. Her symbol also identified the city of Sais.This symbol was displayed on top of her head in Egyptian art. In her form as a goddess of war, she was said to make the weapons of warriors and to guard their bodies when they died.”

>> Read carefully and slowly this paragraph anons:

It was forbidden to utter the name of Neith. Remember, Neith is not her name = her real name, but it’s her epithet. And Isis or = ꜣst, is not a name as well but a title. We also have a mysterious Baalat of Gebal = Lady of Gebal (starting page 865) whom is associated with Isis/Hathor for some reason; even there, in the Phoenician City-State of Gebal = Byblos, her name is unknown, we only know her as the Lady or the Queen of Gebal. She LIVED THERE for SOME TIME. From the looks of it, it was forbidden to utter her name. Now why is that?

I can think of 2 reasons, and it’s one of the two: 1 – She was so divine that it was not allowed for common, simple people to know her name, they were not worthy of knowing her name and calling her by it. 2 – She was so evil and cursed that she along with her name were banned from existence and it became a taboo to utter her name. It’s obvious it’s NOT option 2 but option 1 = as in this deity was so divine that none dared to say her name.

Don’t we have the same idea with our Heavenly Father = God = the ONE and ONLY whom created us, the entire Universe and every form of life in the entire Cosmos? We, humans, we do not know the name of our Heavenly Father. Loads think his name is YHWH = Yahwe. I say may our Heavenly Father forgive you for following the False creator because that is NOT the name of the Lord. No living human knows the name of the Lord. It’s NOT written in a book. That name = YHWH is the name of the False god, the usurper. A lot of people fell into the trap; this is another proof that the Old Testament is heavily EDITED. Haven’t anons noticed how I keep on calling God = HEAVENLY FATHER. Why you think I do that? Because He is our Heavenly Father. Think about this anons, it has very deep meaning. I insist on calling him that and I do it for a specific reason.

So you see anons, when it comes to this “Queen” we don’t know her name and the religious silence of secrecy was not just imposed in Ancient Egypt, but also in the Phoenician City-State of Gebal where the LADY LIVED = stayed for some time. This is why the old generations relied on epithets = Neith and her titles = ꜣst & Baalat of Gebal in order to call her or refer to her.

It’s normal for Neith to wear the RED crown of Lower Egypt = the Deshret crown, since she was from that area. But this hides a deeper meaning anons: We know that Lower Egypt was in CLOSE cultural and trade contact with the Phoenician City-States which acted as a Bridge = intermediary between Mesopotamia and Delta Egypt, including in pre-dynastic times. This indicates in turn that the Phoenician City-States are extremely old = older than what is admitted by Main Stream History, since Neith = Isis = Baalat of Gebal = the Queen traveled there and lived in the City-State of Gebal for some time. In other words the Phoenician City-States date back to the dawn of Civilizations as in pre-Sumerians time as well as pre-pre-dynastic Egypt. Incredibly, both the early Phoenicians and the early Egyptians KNEW WHOM SHE WAS.

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90642f  No.14044518

File: cf8899e479775af⋯.png (614.42 KB, 920x1360, 23:34, Neith_Archer_imaginary_art.png)

>>14043100

(Please read from the start)

Neith is considered as the goddess of war and hunting. This is no surprise, mostly if she was the QUEEN. We’ve already seen why when we looked into Isis = she is the commander of the Lamassu & then the ThunderBirds. If she is the wife of the murdered King = the Queen, then this means she is also the commander of all the Sebetti; apart the traitors. And I believe this was the case because from the get go it is said Neith is the Prime Creator of the Cosmos and she GOVERNS it = she is THE Queen, not just any queen. I’m not surprised at all to see her with weapons and know she is fierce.

If anons look at how the hieroglyph is depicted (in the Link) you will notice how the shield in her name is drawn with 2 arrows. Haven’t we seen this “design”/”drawing’ before anons? The picture I’ve attached to page 965 = the close up of the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, last weapon = number 7 in green square. Now compare with the hieroglyph. They are similar, right? Can I rely on this to identify that last Sebetti weapon as a shield with a blade? It’s highly possible. Amazingle, on the upper register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, this shield and blade = weapon number 7 is depicted next to what looks like 3 arrows = weapon number 6. What do you think anons? Am I guessing this correctly?

As for the strange symbol we see displayed on top of her head, look closely to it anons: doesn’t it look like Hathor’s horns with the electrical beam between them? Don’t forget, that Isis and Hathor along with Baalat of Gebal “merged” in later periods. Loads to think about here, right anons?

“As a deity, Neith is normally shown carrying the was scepter (symbol of rule and power) and the ankh (symbol of life). She is called such cosmic epithets as the "Cow of Heaven", a sky-goddess similar to Nut, and as the Great Flood, Mehet-Weret, as a cow who gives birth to the sun daily. In these forms, she is associated with creation of both the primeval time and the daily "re-creation". As protectress of the Royal House, she is represented as a uraeus, and functions with the fiery fury of the sun. In time, this led to her being considered as the personification of the primordial waters of creation. She is identified as a great mother goddess in this role as a creator. She is the personification of the primeval waters, able to give birth (create) parthenogenetically.”

>> This is a very informative paragraph. One of Neith’s epithets was COW of HEAVEN. I couldn’t understand it. I couldn’t understand how she can be the Queen = wife of the dead king and in the same time, she seems to be part of the Lamassu warrior clan. So how does it all fit together? I got stuck here for some time, trying to figure out how it all comes together and I realized things are a bit more complex than what we see.

I made a small mistake to see the Sebetti in a linear way = as in all 7 being equal in power and rank one to another. The Sebetti are made of 5 kings and 2 queens as far as can tell by what I have so far (might change with additional information). Each king/queen was a ruler = sovereign = head of a Clan/Tribe with one animal as their heraldic symbol. Each one of these kings/queens had tremendous, extraordinary powers, surpassing that of a normal human; like the super natural sort of power. It’s highly possible each ruler had vassals. Each king/queen had an army, a full army of many warriors all wearing special armors shaped like their heraldic animal. Each army was also specialized in a type of combat and used special types of weapons or machinery. Some had common points, but all in all, each Clan had specific abilities and powers.

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58a1e6  No.14051350

File: cabeb659103f074⋯.jpg (4.94 MB, 1382x2048, 691:1024, Black_Panther_Movie_Poster.jpg)

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>>14044518

(Please read from the start)

Not all the Sebetti kings/queens were equal in power. There was one whom was above the other 6. He was King but not just any King. He was the King of the kings. He was the King of the Sebettis. And yes anons, this is where the notion of King of kings comes from. It didn’t start with Christ, but this is much much older than anyone can imagine.

That King, with a capital K, was the murdered King I was already talking about in this thread. This King was special, even among the Sebetti he was special. It’s like he is Special among the Special. This King had a wife = a Queen and an Heir, probably more than one Offspring. From the looks of it, all the Sebettis were related or had a bond/connection to one another.

So where is the place of Neith/Isis/Hathor in all of this? Well, it’s obvious she is a Sebetti = a queen. She seems to be the leader of the Lamassu Clan with the Bull warriors, at least this is what is showing so far. This is why in page 852 it was said that the head of Isis was replaced with that of a cow/Hathor. So she is the queen = Sebetti queen of the Lamassu, but….was she more than this? Was she also the wife of the murdered King? For now, yeah, I think so. It looks like that.

For anons to understand me better, I would like to ask them to take a look at a movie called Black Panther – I’m skipping the unnecessary parts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(film)

“Black Panther is a 2018 American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name. Produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, it is the 18th film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). […]

Plot

Thousands of years ago, five African tribes war over a meteorite containing the metal vibranium. One warrior ingests a "heart-shaped herb" affected by the metal and gains superhuman abilities, becoming the first "Black Panther". He unites all but the Jabari Tribe to form the nation of Wakanda. Over centuries, the Wakandans use the vibranium to develop advanced technology and isolate themselves from the world by posing as a Third World country. In 1992, Wakanda's King T'Chaka visits his brother N'Jobu, who is working undercover in Oakland, California. T'Chaka accuses N'Jobu of assisting black-market arms dealer Ulysses Klaue with stealing vibranium from Wakanda. N'Jobu's partner reveals he is Zuri, another undercover Wakandan, and confirms T'Chaka's suspicions.”

>> So there were 5 tribes:

1 – River Tribe – notice the weapons she is holding in the picture, it’s like the Shen Ring, isn’t it?

2 – Border Tribe.

3 – Mining Tribe.

4 – Merchant Tribe – first picture in next page.

5 – Jabari Tribe.

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58a1e6  No.14051382

File: 526f3b9f3d9d986⋯.jpg (197.39 KB, 698x412, 349:206, Jabari_Tribe_Black_Panther.jpg)

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>>14051350

(Please read from the start)

Pay close attention to them and the details anons = look at the signs on the clothing as well. None is dressed like the other, each has its own colors, symbols, weapons and “occupation” = role, job, function. Each tribe has their own chief = ruler = king; either male or female. And each had their own territory to guard/rule. They were united by the first Black Panther, but the Fifth tribe, the Jabari, didn’t join in.

“In the present day, following T'Chaka's death, his son T'Challa returns to Wakanda to assume the throne. He and Okoye, the leader of the Dora Milaje regiment, extract T'Challa's ex-lover Nakia from an undercover assignment so she can attend his coronation ceremony with his mother Ramonda and younger sister Shuri. At the ceremony, the Jabari Tribe's leader M'Baku challenges T'Challa for the crown in ritual combat. T'Challa defeats M'Baku and persuades him to yield rather than die.”

>> Pay attention to the core idea anons and not the details: T’Chaka, the old King, was murdered. Naturally, his son and heir should take his place. The King of Wakanda has a special type of army all to himself = the royal guards called Dora Milaje (meaning = the “adored ones”); they only answer to the King. Each tribe has its own set of warriors = army; each one of them had a specific function/role; like the Border Tribe was tasked to guard the borders. The Dora Milaje also has a specific role = protecting the King + Throne. They were ELITE soldiers, not ordinary ones.

Ramonda (notice the weapon she uses, they look like the Shen Ring), seems to be the daughter of the River Tribe leader/king = his heir and she is the love interest of the new young King T’Challa. And this is where I reached with Neith/Isis/Hathor. I think this is what happened with the King. He loved and got married One of the female Sebetti. This Sebetti = Neith, was the queen of her Clan, but also the spouse of the King of kings. This made her the Queen of queens. And just like I’ve been suspecting, the King had not just a male heir = Crown Prince, but he also had another offspring; maybe even more than her. But for sure, we know the Crown Prince had a sister. I’ve been calling her the “Evil Lady”. I’ve been saying that either the Evil One or the Evil Lady is the child of the King and the Queen, because there is a maternal type of attachment to the Queen by the early Bloodlines. In the movie Shuri takes on the role of a genius reminding me of Anubis = Wolf Clan. And she makes a joke by pretending to challenge her brother to the throne. But what if this was not a joke and this is what really happened back then: as in the princess started to make claims for the throne because “someone put her up to it” = as in someone played with her mind?

M’Baku, leader of the Jabari, challenges T’Challa to the throne. Doesn’t that mean he doesn’t acknowledge him as his king? Isn’t this the situation we had back then? When the Evil One wanted to take the throne, doesn’t it mean he didn’t acknowledge the King as his ruler? M’Baku was defeated in the duel but he was not killed by T’Challa, instead he yielded to him. Incredibly, isn’t this what happen to the Fallen Angels when they were cast away from Heaven? They weren’t killed but they yielded and were kicked out of Heaven. The level of mirroring/projection in this movie is incredible.

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58a1e6  No.14051425

File: 6b243ef45fefe75⋯.png (1.12 MB, 582x1231, 582:1231, Zuri.png)

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>>14051382

(Please read from the start)

“[…] Killmonger challenges T'Challa to ritual combat, where he kills Zuri, defeats T'Challa, and hurls him over a waterfall to his presumed death. Killmonger ingests the heart-shaped herb and orders the rest incinerated, but Nakia extracts one first. Killmonger, supported by W'Kabi and his army, prepares to distribute shipments of Wakandan weapons to operatives around the world.

Nakia, Shuri, Ramonda, and Ross flee to the Jabari Tribe for aid. They find a comatose T'Challa, rescued by the Jabari in repayment for sparing M'Baku's life. Healed by Nakia's herb, T'Challa returns to fight Killmonger, who dons his own nanotech suit, similar to T'Challa's. W'Kabi and his army fight Shuri, Nakia, and the Dora Milaje, while Ross remotely pilots a jet and shoots down planes carrying the vibranium weapons. M'Baku and the Jabari arrive to reinforce T'Challa. Confronted by Okoye, W'Kabi and his army stand down. Fighting in Wakanda's vibranium mine, T'Challa disrupts Killmonger's suit and stabs him. Killmonger refuses to be healed, choosing to die a free man rather than be incarcerated; T'Challa takes him to the waterfall where they fought, where Killmonger dies peacefully.

[…]”

>> Here, Hollywood/comic world did the same as what they did with the Oz movie = they scattered the story to different characters. Killmonger also usurps the throne and tries to take it. Take note of the Nanotechnology anons, we are going to talk about it later on. I don’t need to comment much, I think anons get the idea and can see through the storyline.

Zuri, seems to have a double function as a religious man and a medicine man. This is no strange to other cultures, like what we see the Shamans do in the Andean region, Mesoamerica and with the Native Americans. They hold religious rituals and in the same time if a person gets sick, they also act like a healer or a doctor and try to cure that person. I think Zuri plays that specific role. He is no combatant/warrior, but he is holding a weapon = spear type that looks incredibly close to what the Staff weapon = Sharur might turn out to be.

Look at his clothing = the color is purple. He wears it along with his family and underlings = the priesthood Clan. Their colors are distinct, just like it’s the case of the rest of the tribes. They do not hold a combative role though. If we look at the second register of the bronze Plaque from Hell, we will see the Fish men playing exactly that part. This is why we don’t see the Fish men among the Sebetti, but in the second register. We can say the Aquatic clothing represents the Clergy and the healers. So far, from the information I’ve gathered, this is what I’ve noticed.

I would also like to ask anons to take a look at what Zuri is wearing around his neck. Yeah, I know it’s an African Style necklace. Look as well at what Okoye wears around her neck. Now compare this to what Nergal and Wonder Woman 1984 wear around their necks. Look at what Okoye and the Dora Milaje are holding = spear/staffs. Look what they have on their wrists and necks. Why does an elite warrior = the royal guard needs to wear bracelets and necklaces like that? What are the Kimoyo Beads in the movie? A communication bracelet? A bit different, but it also reminds me of what the Anunnaki wear around as bracelets where light comes out of it? I’ve aleady talked about this previously in this thread (page 822). Are the Kimoyo Beads an advanced form of the I-watch?

Go look back at all the pictures I’ve put of artifacts for anons. You will notice that MOST, NOT ALL, wear something on their wrists; while some have necklaces and a large number also have arm bands or upper arm bangles. Anons will notice that such trinkets are MOSTLY worn by winged people = the ThunderBirds. Now why on Earth do mighty warriors need to wear such trinkets? It’s obvious there is a pattern here, but this doesn’t explain why they all wear such trinkets.

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58a1e6  No.14051460

File: fd7598cae7f9a1a⋯.jpg (91 KB, 702x1024, 351:512, Black_Panther_Okoye_Dora_M….jpg)

File: ae7e1eeca66fa8e⋯.jpg (1.85 MB, 1646x2355, 1646:2355, Black_Panther_Movie_Poster….jpg)

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>>14051425

(Please read from the start)

The poster of T’Challa as Black Panther holds 2 tiny hidden treasures. Look closely what’s written on it: “King of Kings” & “The Origin Story”. Really!!?? What are the odds of Hollywood using exactly these 2 ideas?

The last picture I want anons to take a look at is the picture of the council. Each tribe leader/king has a seat at the council – I’m unsure if the Jabari are here or not though. But the Queen Dowager or the Queen Mother also holds a seat. That seat is usually held by the Queen = spouse of the King, but since T’Challa is single = not married, then this seat is held by the Queen Mother only to be replaced by his wife when he gets married. I believe this council we see right in front of us is a replica of how the situation was back then. They didn’t invent or create any new idea in Hollywood nor in the Comic Books world; they are projecting/mirroring the hidden history of mankind.

This is how it was with the Sebetti anons. This is a perfect reflection of how things were back then. Each Sebetti was a king of his own Clan/Tribe/Faction. They each had a territory & people to rule. Each Sebetti king had an animal as a heraldic sign. He also had some type of extraordinary powers, super-natural powers that made him special, incredible. Each Sebetti king had his own army, which in turn had a specific function/role.

But the Sebetti were not equal. There was one above the rest. That one was called the King of the Sebettis; as in he was King of kings. They held council but the ultimate decision rested in the hands of the King of kings. He had the last word. And from the looks of it, the King married one of the Sebetti queens, so the Queen had a double function. She was the spouse of the King of kings but in the same time, she was the queen of her own Clan/Tribe. Up till now, it seems Neith/Isis/Hathor is THAT Queen. Maybe I’m rushing in my conclusions, so I would like to leave the door ajar and keep the possibility in front of us that she might be a simple Sebetti queen and not the Queen of queens. Let’s just say I give it a 70 % she is the Queen of queens and a 30 % she is not the Queen of queens; from the information I’ve got so far. I’m only informing anons of what I have in mind, this needs further verification.

I hope anons realize I just showed you how Atlantis was ruled.

Just one last thought about this movie: what are the odds that the Armor/suit we see the Black Panther wear is actually a projection of what the Feline Sebetti is? From the shape of the helmet, to the necklace, to the abilities of the suit and the boots, and mostly the claws. Please go back to the Feline Sebetti (starting page 993) and compare. Make up your own mind. As for me, I think what we see in the movie is extremely close to what the Feline armor looks like.

Now let’s continue where I left off with Neith on page 1 021.

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b1669e  No.14058484

File: a5a6645bcf738c3⋯.png (202.54 KB, 155x503, 155:503, goddesskingneith.png)

>>14051460

(Please read from the start)

It is said that Neith is associated with the goddess of the Great Flood. Is that an oopsie from Wikipedia? Did (((they))) just indirectly hinted that a Great Flood occurred in the past? But (((they))) are only mentioning the Great Flood, not the Cataclysm. Is this a way to say that Neith came out from the waters of the Great Flood? As in she survived it somehow. The Uraeus is the lightning that comes out from the super weapons the Warriors use. So I’m not surprised to hear she is associated with the Uraeus. If she is the Queen of queen = spouse of the King of kings, then yes, she is a Great Mother Goddess.

“Later, as religious practices evolved throughout the long history of their culture, ancient Egyptians began to note their deities in pairs, female and male. When that tradition arose, Neith was paired with Ptah-Nun. In the same manner, her personification as the primeval waters is Mehet-Weret, conceptualized as streaming water, related to another use of the verb sti, meaning 'to pour'.”

>> They are saying it themselves in this paragraph = LATER = mutation.

“Neith is one of the most ancient deities associated with ancient Egyptian culture. Flinders Petrie (Diopolis Parva, 1901) noted the earliest depictions of her standards were known in predynastic periods, as can be seen from a representation of a barque bearing her crossed arrow standards in the Predynastic Period, as is displayed in the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford.”

>> The Bloodlines knew exactly whom she was, don’t forget (((they))) are collectors and (((their))) little museums are the place where (((they))) keep (((their))) treasures. Neith’s cult is super old, goes all the way back to pre-dynastic times.

“Her first anthropomorphic representations occur in the early dynastic period, on a diorite vase of King Ny-Netjer of the Second Dynasty. The vase was found in the Step Pyramid of Djoser (Third Dynasty) at Saqqara. That her worship predominated the early dynastic periods is demonstrated by a preponderance of theophoric names (personal names that incorporate the name of a deity) within which Neith appears as an element. Predominance of Neith's name in nearly forty percent of early dynastic names, and particularly in the names of four royal women of the First Dynasty, clearly emphasizes the importance of this goddess in relation to the early society of Egypt, with special emphasis upon association with the Royal House.

In the very early periods of Egyptian history, the main iconographic representations of this goddess appear to have been limited to her hunting and war characteristics, although there is no Egyptian mythological reference to support the concept that this was her primary function as a deity. It has been suggested these hunting and war features of Neith's imagery may indicate her origin from Libya, located west and southwest of Egypt, where she was goddess of the combative peoples there.”

>> It’s more likely she, as the Queen of queens, commander of the ThunderBirds, the Lamassu and the other warriors, was at war with the Horned Serpent Clan and she was cleaning up the traitors from the other clans.

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b1669e  No.14058525

File: 2e09e12c5120c82⋯.png (171.88 KB, 220x503, 220:503, Neith_Nursing_2_crocodiles.png)

>>14058484

(Please read from the start)

“It has been theorized that Neith's primary cult point in the Old Kingdom was established in Saïs (modern Sa el-Hagar) by Hor-Aha of the First Dynasty, in an effort to placate the residents of Lower Egypt by the ruler of the unified country. Textual and iconographic evidence indicates that she was a national goddess for Old Kingdom Egypt, with her own sanctuary in Memphis, indicating the high regard held for her. There, she was known as "North of her Wall", as counterpoise to Ptah's "South of his Wall" epithet. While Neith is generally regarded as a deity of Lower Egypt, her worship was not consistently located in that delta region. Her cult reached its height in Saïs and apparently in Memphis in the Old Kingdom, and remained important, although to a lesser extent, through the Middle and New Kingdom. Her cult regained cultural prominence again during the twenty-sixth dynasties when worship at Saïs flourished again, as well as at Esna in Upper Egypt.”

>> Neith was the national goddess of the Old Kingdom; that tells a lot, it shows mostly her importance.

“Neith's symbol and part of her hieroglyph also bore a resemblance to a loom, and so in later syncretisation of Egyptian myths by the Greek ruling class of that time, she also became goddess of weaving. At this time her role as a creator conflated with that of Athena, as a Greek deity who wove all of the world and existence into being on her loom.”

>> The Spider is the animal shape of a loom. I’ve already been suspecting the Spider (mentioned page 912) as being some type of sub-category of a clan; something in the same position as the Scorpion Clan.

“Sometimes Neith was pictured as a woman nursing a baby crocodile, and she then was addressed with the title, "Nurse of Crocodiles", reflecting a southern provincial mythology in Upper Egypt that she served as either the mother of the crocodile god, Sobek, (or he was her consort). As mother of Ra, in her Mehet-Weret form, she was sometimes described as the "Great Cow who gave birth to Ra". As a maternal figure (beyond being the birth-mother of the sun-god Ra), Neith is associated with Sobek as her son (as early as the Pyramid Texts), but in later religious conventions that paired deities, no male deity is consistently identified with her in a pair and so, she often is represented without one. Later triad associations made with her have little or no religious or mythological supporting references, appearing to have been made by political or regional associations only.”

>> A crocodile is a reptile, just like the serpent. So what does it mean that Neith is nursing a crocodile? Is it confirming my suspicions that at least one of the Evil Couple was the offspring of the Queen of queens? It’s looking like that more and more anons. Don’t confuse things anons = even if she was the mother of one of the Evil Couple, this doesn’t mean she was evil by herself. Keep that in mind.

“Some modern writers assert that they may interpret that as her being 'androgynous', since Neith is the creator capable of giving birth without a partner (asexually) and without association of creation with sexual imagery, as seen in the myths of Atum and other creator deities. However, her name always appears as feminine. Erik Hornung interprets that in the Eleventh Hour of the Book of the Amduat, Neith's name appears written with a phallus (Das Amduat, Teil I: Text: 188, No. 800.(Äg. Abh., Band 7, Wiesbaden) 1963). See also Ramadan el-Sayed, La Déese Neith de Saïs, I:16; 58-60, for both hieroglyphic rendering and discussion of an androgynous nature of Neith as creator/creatress deity, and Lexikon der Ägyptologie (LÄ I) under "Götter, androgyne": 634-635 (W. Westendorf, ed., Harassowitz, Wiesbaden, 1977). In reference to Neith's function as creator with both male and female characteristics, Peter Kaplony has said in the Lexikon der Ägyptologie: "Die Deutung von Neith als Njt "Verneinung" ist sekundär. Neith ist die weibliche Entsprechung zu Nw(w), dem Gott der Urflut (Nun and Naunet). (Citing Sethe, Amun, § 139)". LÄ II: 1118 (Harassowitz, Wiesbaden, 1977). The antiquity of Neith reaches deeply into the prehistoric periods, however, when female deities as the sole creators (through parthenogenesis) were quite common in human cultures (and even into the neolithic), so she should be considered in that role, without having to reach for other explanations about her not following later conventions. She was considered to be eldest of the Ancient Egyptian deities. Neith is said to have been "born the first, in the time when as yet there had been no birth" (St. Clair, Creation Records: 176).”

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78c751  No.14061471

File: 3f294410105f527⋯.jpg (22.7 KB, 400x500, 4:5, Neith_with_Horus.jpg)

>>14058525

(Please read from the start)

>> Neith is not androgynous. The “younger” generations or should I say the later generations didn’t understand or know what really happened back then. And this explanation is just the interpretation of “modern” writers. Go figure that one out! (Rolling eyes).

“In the Pyramid Texts, Neith is paired with the goddess Selket as the two braces for the sky, which places these goddesses as the supports for the heavens (see PT 1040a-d, following J. Gwyn Griffths, The Conflict of Horus and Seth, (London, 1961) p. 1). This ties in with the vignette in the Contendings of Seth and Horus when, as the most ancient among them, Neith is asked by the deities to decide who should rule. She was appealed to as an arbiter in the dispute between Horus and Seth. In her message of reply, Neith selects Horus, and says she will "cause the sky to crash to the earth" if he is not selected.”

>> Atta girl! She knows how to kick ass doesn’t she? It’s clear as day here anons. Our Queen of queens sided with HORUS = ThunderBirds against Seth = Horned Serpents. And oh boy does she sound pissed when she said that is going to cause the sky to crash to the earth if Horus is not selected. It’s way than obvious Neith is the Mother Queen, spouse of the murdered King of kings, and it’s way too clear she is the leader of the ThunderBirds and the rest of the loyal warriors to the King. And she’s pissed by what happened. She is the type that takes action, and not just sit there to do nothing about it. I bet she did and this is how the fight between good and evil continued even after the Cataclysm. Even when the Calamity occurred, the children of the Light kept on fighting the children of Darkness.

Neith is really a fierce Queen, worth of her epithet as being a “terrible one”. There is nothing more scary on this Earth that the wrath of a Mother whom’s protecting her child from evil/harm. And this is what we have with Neith. She is the beloved wife of the murdered King of kings; so this means she lost the man she loved. Then she had to survive the betrayal of someone close to her from within her family, probably one of her own children. She had to survive an Apocalyptic Calamity where most of mankind was annihilated, simply perished. She survived a Calamity where the Earth was gutted inside-out, earthquakes split it, volcanoes erupted, water flooded and it was all followed by an Ice Age = it’s like it was a death by earth, fire, water and wind. She was Queen of queens, she was RESPONSIBLE of all these lives which she governed and she was the guardian of the Earth = she was responsible of the safety of the Earth and all of this happened under her watch. Then after all of this, she leads the fight against the Horned Serpents in the aftermath of the Cataclysm, including cleaning the traitors from the ranks of the other clans. Lastly, she had to protect the Heir = Crown Prince from being murdered just like his father by the Horned Serpent warriors and the other traitors. As you can see anons, the Queen had loads on her plate to deal with.

“Attributes

An analysis of her attributes shows Neith was a goddess with many roles. From predynastic and early dynasty periods, she was referred to as an "Opener of the Ways" (wp w3.wt), which may have referred, not only to her leadership in hunting and war, but also as a psychopomp in cosmic and underworld pathways, escorting souls. References to Neith as the "Opener of Paths" occurs in Dynasty Four through Dynasty Six, and Neith is seen in the titles of women serving as priestesses of the goddess. Such epithets include: "Priestess of Neith who opens all the (path)ways", "Priestess of Neith who opens the good pathways", "Priestess of Neith who opens the way in all her places". (el-Sayed, I: 67-69). el-Sayed asserts his belief that Neith should be seen as a parallel to Wepwawet, the ancient jackal-god of Upper Egypt, who was associated in that southern region with both royalty in victory and as a psychopomp for the dead.”

>> She is a PathFinder = opening the way. Remember what was said about Isis in pages 847- 848? She is the one that can change the Fate, that can choose a different Path which in turn can change the outcome of things.

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78c751  No.14061517

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>>14061471

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“The main imagery of Neith as wp w3.wt was as the deity of the unseen and limitless sky, as opposed to representations of Nut and Hathor, who respectively represented the manifested night and day skies. Neith's epithet as the "Opener of the Sun's paths in all her stations" refers to how the sun is reborn (due to seasonal changes) at various points in the sky, under Neith's control of all beyond the visible world, of which only a glimpse is revealed prior to dawn and after sunset. It is at these changing points that Neith reigns as a form of sky goddess, where the sun rises and sets daily, or at its 'first appearance' to the sky above and below. It is at these points, beyond the sky that is seen, that Neith's true power as the deity who creates life is manifested.”

>> Is this paragraph talking about her ability to open the Stargate?

“Georges St. Clair (Creation Records, 1898) noted that Neith is represented at times as a cow goddess with a line of stars across her back (as opposed to representations of Nut with stars across the belly) [See el-Sayed, II, Doc. 644], and maintained this indicated that Neith represents the full ecliptic circle around the sky (above and below), and is seen iconographically in ancient texts as both the regular and the inverted determinative for the heavenly vault, indicating the cosmos below the horizon. St. Clair maintained it was this realm that Neith personified, for she is the complete sky that surrounds the upper (Nut) and lower (Nunet?) sky, and who exists beyond the horizon, and thereby, beyond the skies themselves. Neith, then, is that portion of the cosmos that is not seen, and in which the sun is reborn daily, below the horizon (which may reflect the statement assigned to Neith as "I come at dawn and at sunset daily").

Since Neith also was goddess of war, she thus had an additional association with death: in this function, she shot her arrows into the enemies of the dead, and thus she began to be viewed as a protector of the dead, often appearing as a uraeus snake to drive off intruders and those who would harm the deceased (in this form she is represented in the tomb of Tutankhamun). She also is shown as the protectress of one of the Four sons of Horus, specifically, of Duamutef, the deification of the canopic jar storing the stomach, since the abdomen (often mistakenly associated as the stomach) was the most vulnerable portion of the body and a prime target during battle.”

>> I’ve already explained about the Uraeus and the association with war = electrical weapon.About her protecting the Four Sons of Horus: does this mean there were 4 legitimate heirs to the King of kings? Or did the Heir had in turn 4 sons = Four Grandchildren of the King of kings? Or do they represent Four ThunderBird warriors? As for her guarding the canopic jar of king Tutankhamun, see the pictures attached with this page.

“Mythology

In some ancient Egyptian creation myths, Neith was identified as the mother of Ra and Apep. When she was identified as a water goddess, she was viewed as the mother of Sobek, the crocodile. It was because of this association with water, i.e. the Nile, that during pairing of deities she sometimes was considered the wife of Khnum and sometimes was associated with the source of the River Nile. In that cult center, she also was associated with the Nile Perch as well as being the goddess of the triad.”

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78c751  No.14061566

File: afa7757053dd809⋯.jpg (247.32 KB, 843x1455, 281:485, Bronze_Neith_sitting_on_a_….jpg)

>>14061517

(Please read from the start)

>> The first 2 sentences are the important ones here, later is a mutation. I’ve already explained this as her being the Queen of queens, spouse of the King of kings and probably the mother of one of the Evil Couple, either the Male Evil One or the Evil Lady that was his lover/wife.

“As the goddess of creation and weaving, she was said to reweave the world on her loom daily. An interior wall of the temple at Esna records an account of creation in which Neith brings forth the Nun, the first land, from the primeval waters. All that she conceived in her heart comes into being, including all thirty deities. Having no husband she has been described as "Virgin Mother Goddess":

Unique Goddess, mysterious and great who came to be in the beginning and caused everything to come to be . . . the divine mother of Ra, who shines on the horizon…

Proclus (412–485 AD) wrote that the adyton of the temple of Neith in Sais (of which nothing now remains) carried the following inscription:

I am the things that are, that will be, and that have been. No one has ever laid open the garment by which I am concealed. The fruit which I brought forth was the sun.”

>> The waving could also symbolize as she can choose which path to walk on as in she can wave FATE by having the ability to change it and change its outcome. You know: like waving the destiny or fate of people. Neith came out of the primal waters = that’s the Great Flood waters as in she is a survivor of the Cataclysm. I think the “first land” mentioned here means that Neith showed up on the first patch of land that emerged from the Flood waters. This will be explained later.

If I told you this sentence is very real: “All that she conceived in her heart comes into being” - would you believe me? I know this to be very very real, as I’ve seen it happen myself with my own eyes. The child of the prophecy has this ability: whatever he holds within his heart comes to be. It’s about his intentions and his feelings. If he cares then it will be blessed; if he hates, then it will be cursed and doomed.

“It was said that Neith interceded in the kingly war between Horus and Set, over the Egyptian throne, recommending that Horus rule.”

>> Already made comments about her choice in the battle between Seth and Horus, so I’m not going to repeat.

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290083  No.14061602

>>14061566

(Please read from the start)

“A great festival, called the Feast of Lamps, was held annually in honor of Neith and, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, her devotees burned a multitude of lights in the open air all night during the celebration.”

“Syncretic relationships

The Greek historian Herodotus (c. 484–425 BC) noted that the Egyptian citizens of Sais in Egypt worshipped Neith. The Greeks ruled Egypt at the time and they sought to draw a syncretic relationship to associate Egyptian deities with those of Greece. They identified Neith with Athena. The Timaeus, a dialogue written by Plato, mirrors that identification with Athena, possibly as a result of the identification of both goddesses with war and weaving.”

>> Plato has a point: both Athena and Neith characteristics are similar.

“The English Egyptologist E. A. Wallis Budge suggested that the Christian biblical account of the flight into Egypt as recorded in the apocryphal gospels was directly influenced by stories about Isis and Horus; Budge argued that the writers of these gospels ascribed to Mary, the mother of Jesus, many peculiarities which, at the time of the rise of Christianity, were perceived as belonging to both Isis and Neith, for example, the parthenogenesis concept shared by both Neith and Mary.

In popular culture

[…]”

Before moving on from Neith, I would like for anons to remember = never forget that she was associated to Baalat of Gebal and she lived in the Phoenician City-State of Gebal = Byblos for some time. This is going to be used later on. And in the Dogon culture, the word for mother is the same for cow (page 211) and they have the same root as the word SUN (=female symbol in their religion). The Dogon used to think that RED (color) is a female symbol. It all fits perfectly wel with Neith, Queen of queens.

A bit of reading for anons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehet-Weret

Anons will find out she is a Lamassu warrior and a Flood Survivor.

This is it for the Ram warrior in Ancient Egypt. We also have a candidate for that last Sebetti I couldn’t identify before: Antelope .

We also managed to identify the Queen of Atlantis and where she ended up. She took many forms and names but her characteristics are the same. The information also points out that she is the leader of the Lamassu warriors herself.

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290083  No.14061637

File: 131ef2b91359f60⋯.jpg (144.19 KB, 800x1073, 800:1073, Raminathicket2.jpg)

>>14061602

(Please read from the start)

I went to Mesopotamia, trying to find the Ram warriors there. I didn’t find them, not directly, but I found something a bit different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_in_a_Thicket

“The Ram in a Thicket is a pair of figures excavated in Ur, in southern Iraq, which date from about 2600–2400 BC. One is in the Mesopotamia Gallery in Room 56 of the British Museum in London; the other is in the University of Pennsylvania Museum in Philadelphia, USA.”

>> The Collectors has these artifacts.

“Discovery

The pair of rams would more correctly be described as goats, and were discovered lying close together in the 'Great Death Pit' (PG 1237), one of the graves in the Royal Cemetery at Ur, by archaeologist Leonard Woolley during the 1928–9 season. Woolley was in charge of the joint venture between the British Museum and the University of Pennsylvania, which began in 1922. The figure's partner is in the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology in Philadelphia.”

>> I agree, this is closer to a GOAT than a RAM.

“Woolley named the figure the 'Ram in a Thicket' after the passage in Genesis 22 v.13, where God orders the Biblical Patriarch Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac, but, at the last moment Jehovah's Angel stopped Abraham telling him "Do not harm the boy and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me. At that Abraham looked up and saw just beyond him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns. And Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering instead of his son'.”

>> Let me say it from the get go: Our Heavenly Father would NEVER ask such a thing from ANYONE. Even as a test, our Heavenly Father would NEVER, EVER think this, utter these horrible words or even suggest such an idea. This is not the Light. Such an idea = sacrificing a child, just the idea of it, doesn’t even occur to the Light. This is not how they think, this is not what they believe in. This is how the Darkness thinks. I will be talking a bit more about all of this when I finish with this later.

“The figure

When it was discovered, the 45.7 cm (18.0 in) figure had been crushed flat by the weight of the soil above it and its inner wooden core had decomposed. This wooden core had been finely cut for the face and legs, but the body had been more roughly modelled. Woolley used wax to keep the pieces together as it was excavated, and the figure was gently pressed back into its original shape. The ram's head and legs are layered in gold leaf which had been hammered against the wood and stuck to it with a thin wash of bitumen, while its ears are copper which are now green with verdigris. The horns and the fleece on its shoulders are of lapis lazuli, and the body's fleece is made of shell, attached to a thicker coat of bitumen. The figure's genitals are gold, while its belly was silver plate, now oxidised beyond restoration. The tree is also covered in gold leaf with gold flowers.”

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cd8be1  No.14061709

File: ffde1bf5e972f90⋯.jpg (62.25 KB, 800x400, 2:1, The_Ram_in_a_Thicket.jpg)

>>14061637

(Please read from the start)

>> That’s some craftsmanship, if you ask me.

“The figure stands on a small rectangular base decorated with a mosaic of shell, red limestone and lapis lazuli. The figure was originally attached to the flowering shrub by silver chains around its fetlocks, but these chains have completely corroded away. It is thought that the two figures originally faced each other as confronted animals, and that the tubes going up from their shoulders were used to support something, probably a bowl or similar object.”

>> So this is the base of a basin or something similar.

This artifact (the pair) was called by the archaeologist that found them as the Ram in the Thicket, because it reminded him of how God sent a ram to Abraham. Let’s talk about the a bit.

The Ram, like the Antelopes and the Bulls, belong family of Bovidae: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovidae

“The Bovidae comprise the biological family of cloven-hoofed, ruminant vertebrates that includes bison, African buffalo, water buffalo, antelopes, sheep, goats, muskoxen, and domestic cattle. A member of this family is called a bovid.”

>> In other words, the Bull, the Ram and “maybe the Antelope” all have a common root.

The Ram in the Thicket is not the only artifact of such nature coming from Mesopotamia. On page 806, I posted pictures of 2 artifacts. The second one is a small statuette from Elam which SOME call her the Scorpion goddess, because of the way her claws look like. Back then, I said this was a strange seated woman because of her hands, feet and horns. I was not that convinced we are dealing with a Scorpion despite this being the narrative put forward about this artifact by the Main Stream History. When we look closely at how the hands and feet are shaped, they look more like those of a bovine than the claws of a scorpion. Besides, a scorpion only has 2 claws, not 4 ^_~ So why are the feet of this “goddess” also shaped like that? If this was really a scorpion, then only her hands should be shaped like claws. It’s obvious we have a 4 leged animal. Something is off here anons.

Then, when we look at her HORNS, notice how the tip is shaped like some sort of star or like an open hand with the fingers stretched apart. We’ve seen a similar iconography before but in Ancient Egypt = The Gerzeh Palette (page 112 – revisited page 976). There, it’s obvious we have a spark starting from the horns of the cow and forming a spark in the space between them. So do we have the same type of situation with this artifact from Elam? Where it the Scorpion tail? The explanation provided by the Main Stream History about this artifact never rested well with me, it always bothered me. I’ve been doubting for a long time that this is not a scorpion goddess but one of the bovine type of warrior: not the ram for sure, but possibly the Lamassu or the Antelope. This is why I love archaeology = the artifacts never lie and cannot be altered, manipulated/changed like written texts.Whom do you believe anons: the Main Stream History narrative or what your eyes are seeing in this artifact? Decide for yourself.

As for the explanation given to this “Ram” by the Main Stream History is incorrect as was the case for the figurine from Elam.

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ff50a3  No.14061905

File: 2e3ed2d0403067f⋯.png (7 MB, 2550x3300, 17:22, Iconography_of_Horned_Crow….png)

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>>14061709

(Please read from the start)

There are 2 points which puzzle me about this “Bovine” origin in Mesopotamia:

1 – The triple horn crown worn by the Mesopotamian deities as seen in the pictures I’m attaching with this page:

I’ve picked images from different eras for anons: Sumerian, Assyrian etc. and from different types of artifacts, like reliefs, Imprint of Cylinder Seals etc. This is to show anons, that this is not just an old practice = from the get go in Mesopotamian art. But it’s also to show anons that it became a “STANDARD” method to indicate the Rank of the person wearing that Crown; through all the Ages; the number of horns varied though. It was worn by both Good and Evil Deities; male and female alike. Even great warriors or kings like what we see on the Stele of Naram Sin (starting page 63) were seen wearing it. Anons can go back to the different pictures from Mesopotamia and see the many artifacts with the horned crowns depicted on them.

No one = not a single person till now managed to understand and decode the meaning and purpose of this horned crown. We know it’s related to Anu. We don’t have an iconography of Anu, but his symbol is a horned crown, sometimes shown resting on a throne (or some type of altar), as shown in the second picture on this page.

Something else strange about this horned crown is the details on it. It is sometimes decorated with the symbol of Shamash (as seen on page 814) but mostly it’s decorated with a rosette like (example on page 815): what we see on the horned Crown in these reproductions (= imitations) of the Lamassu – Third picture attached to this page. I don’t know about you anons, but for me, this is another proof that I was correct when talking about the Beam formed between the horns of Hathor (pages 972 - 973); since I consider the rosette as a beam of light wrapped in lightning.

I still don’t know s the true meaning behind this horned crown in Mesopotamia. But I was thinking there might be a connection with the 3 horned Sebetti clans: the Lamassu, the Ram & possibly the Antelope. We already know that the Horned Serpent Clan was stealing military technology from the other warrior clans and adding them to their armors. So, if I go down the same line of thoughts here can I say: that the 3 horns crown in Mesopotamia is the stacking of the 3 Sebetti horns = Lamassu horns, Ram horns and possibly Antelope horns. If the horns of 3 Sebetti clans are their special weapons, did the evil clan steal the tech, stacked them one on top of the other, then attached them to their own armors to intensify 3 times the power of that weapon? It’s possible. But this doesn’t explain why both good and evil deities in Mesopotamia wear them. This is just a hypothesis from my part, so I can be totally wrong here. I need to think more about this and I would like to hear suggestions if some readers have them. I know there is some sort of connection but I’m still unable to determine it. This is only a hypothesis for now.

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e81704  No.14064758

File: 926e23208e9a89d⋯.jpg (290.22 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Der_Daemon_Baphomet_589630….jpg)

File: 2ad403c9bf27398⋯.jpg (76.27 KB, 976x750, 488:375, Satanic_statue.jpg)

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>>14061905

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2- The second sub-section is the image of Satan as a goat, more known as Baphomet. This is very famous in (((their))) circles. The hand gesture is identical to the ones of ALL the Sebetti are doing in the third register of the bronze Plaque from Hell (page 963). We also saw Pazuzu on the same Plaque, first register, doing the same gesture (page 961); as well as the Feline warriors represented on the same Plaque, on the second register (page 962). As I’ve said before, I believe this has an ancient meaning. It seems it was kinda hijacked by the Satanists. I don’t know what it really means.

The second thing that caught my attention about Baphomet iconography is the FIRE always represented between the horns of the thing. It fits perfectly with what I was saying about all the horned Sebetti: as in something happens between their horns which produce some type of beam or in this case it’s fire. I’ve explained this with Hathor (starting page 972) and I even mentioned it before with the Oz moving, the witches hands/arms are held up to look like the horns of the Bovines – compare the imagery (page 926): one makes some green electricity and the other makes a ball of fire. It seems whoever Baphomet was, he/she was part of one of those Bovine species clans.

Which was it? Which clan does it belong to? Well, one thing for sure, it’s not the Lamassu Clan. So this is either a Ram warrior or the possible Antelope warrior. Since Baphomet looks closely to the Antelope, I think it’s that, and not a Ram. And this includes the artifacts named wrongfully = Ram in the thicket. I’m saying this based on the shape of the HORNS. Rams have short horns mostly, swirling in a big circle downwards. The Antelope horns are long swirling (or not) going upwards. So based on the shape and direction of the horns I say we are dealing with an Antelope warrior when Baphomet is concerned. The wings we see him with are the technology the coup plotters stole from the other clans and mixed it to their own armors. The Ram armor and the Antelope armor seems to be the type of Land troops, not Air Force; so the wings were added via theft.

When we were in Ancient Egypt, taking a look at Satis (starting page 1 015) and Anuket (starting page 1 017) we don’t get the impression they were evil or bad. This is leading me to believe that the Antelope Clan was a divided clan; as in some in it were good = a rare few, while others were bad = most.

What is strange about this Baphomet representation is the gender of the deity. Sometimes we see Baphomet = the Antelope represented as a male = bare chest; sometimes we see Baphomet = the Antelope represented as a female = with breasts. Even more strangely, it seems the female version of Baphomet is associated to the Moon. Take note of this and keep it in mind.

So which is it? Is Baphomet male or female?

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e81704  No.14064782

>>14064758

(Please read from the start)

I don’t know. Not at this point. But I do know that we have an Evil Couple whom is at the center of all this story = one is Male, while the second is Female. I called them before many times as the Evil One for the Male and the Evil Lady for the Female. And I know each was a king/queen of one warrior clan; as in each was a Sebetti.

As I said before, we have 7 Sebetti rulers made of 5 kings = males and 2 queens = females. I already identified one of the females as being the Queen of queens = the Lamassu queen = Lamassu Sebetti = good Sebetti. Now, I’m getting close to the second queen = the second female Sebetti. We also had 5 male Sebetti = kings. One was the King of kings = the ultimate ruler = good king. This leaves me with 4 other possibilities of the Evil One being part of them. So which heraldic symbol = Sebetti animal are the Evil ones. Well, we already know it’s the Horned Serpent Sebetti and it seems that the second one is the Antelope Sebetti which most researchers think it’s a goat (they are not that far from the truth).

It seems, we have 2 Sebetti Clans whom joined hands and plotted together to take the throne. But it’s not as easy as that. From what I’ve got so far, the Horned Serpent Clan was all in on it, while the Antelope Clan was not ALL in on it, but large portion of it was. We also know there were traitors in other clans, not that much, but enough to play the role of spies. So, the big question is: Whom was What? Was the Antelope Sebetti a female or male? Was the Horned Serpent Sebetti female or male?

I’m certain they cannot be both males or both females = as in both being from the same gender. Why am I certain? Because they produced an heir = they had an offspring, a child. So one had to be female and the other one a male, but which is what? Whom ruled the Horned Serpent Clan? Whom ruled the Antelope Clan? I’m stuck at this point anons.

I’m still trying to figure this one out. Was the Antelope Sebetti male or female? Was the Horned Serpent Sebetti male or female? I don’t know anons, I don’t know. I’ve tried to take a look at modern day iconography and pictures, mostly those the stupid Satanists have all over the net but I couldn’t find a hint. All it did was make me sick to my stomach and have a headache. I keep turning in circles about this and I am flip flopping about this issue, being undecided.

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e81704  No.14064785

File: dbba30b82c79f4c⋯.jpg (47.99 KB, 600x896, 75:112, legend_1985_original_film_….jpg)

File: efe525b7adcf8e9⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1280x544, 40:17, Riddley_s_Scott_s_Legend_1….png)

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>>14064782

(Please read from the start)

While looking at Baphomet, I bumped into a Hollywood movie, from back in the days. This movie is called Legend and it’s from 1985. Let’s take a look at it as quickly as possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_(1985_film)

“Legend is a 1985 American epic dark fantasy adventure film directed by Ridley Scott and starring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, Tim Curry, David Bennent, Alice Playten, Billy Barty, Cork Hubbert, and Annabelle Lanyon. The film revolves around Jack, a pure being who must stop the Lord of Darkness who plots to cover the world with eternal night.

Although not a commercial success when first released, it won the British Society of Cinematographers Award for Best Cinematography in 1985 for cinematographer Alex Thomson, as well as being nominated for multiple awards: Oscar for Best Makeup; Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films Saturn Award for Best Makeup; BAFTA Awards for Best Costume Design, Best Makeup Artist, Best Special Visual Effects; DVD Exclusive Awards; and Young Artist Awards. Since its premiere and the subsequent release of the unrated Director's Cut, the film has become a cult classic.

Plot

In order to cast the world into eternal night, the Lord of Darkness sends the goblin Blix on a mission to kill the unicorns in the forest near his castle that guard the light and bring him their horns. Blix and his colleagues Pox and Blunder follow impetuous Princess Lili as she visits her forest-dwelling paramour Jack O'Greene. Later, Jack blindfolds and takes Lili to the lair of the unicorns. As Lili distracts the stallion by stroking it, Blix shoots it with a poison dart from his blowpipe, and the unicorns flee. With the couple unaware of the goblins, Lili makes light of Jack's fears concerning her sin and sets him a challenge by throwing her ring into a pond, declaring she will marry whoever finds it. While Jack dives in after the ring, the goblins find the dying stallion and sever its alicorn. An apocalyptic winter descends; Lili runs off in terror and Jack is barely able to break through the surface of the now frozen pond.

Lili takes refuge in the frozen cottage of a kind and friendly family. There, Lili sees the goblins testing the alicorn's magical powers, and overhears from them about how she had a role in their slaying of the stallion, and by doing so, casting the dark winter onto the world. She follows the goblins to a rendezvous with Darkness, who tells them the world cannot be cast into eternal night as long as the surviving mare still lives. Blunder valiantly but unsuccessfully tries using the alicorn to overthrow Darkness and is taken away to his castle. Meanwhile, Jack, accompanied by the forest elf Honeythorn Gump, the fairy Oona, and the dwarves Brown Tom and Screwball, finds the mare mourning the lifeless stallion. Lamenting over his role in their current predicament, Jack cries and apologizes to the mare, who tells him the alicorn must be recovered and returned to the stallion. Leaving Brown Tom to guard the unicorns, Jack and the others retrieve a hidden cache of ancient weapons and armor. While they are gone, Lili tries to help make things right by helping to save the mare from the goblins, but they overpower Tom and capture both the mare and Lili. Learning of what has transpired, Jack and his group make their way to the castle in the middle of a swamp. On the way, they are nearly killed by a swamp hag named Meg Mucklebones, but defeat her by flattering her appearance and then decapitating her.”

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e81704  No.14064809

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>>14064785

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>> This is very similar to what happened to Osiris and Isis. The Unicorn is Osiris slayed. Strangely, the alicorn reminds me of the missing Phallus of Osiris. The mourning Mare is Isis. Lord of Darkness (his name says everything about him) wants to cover the world in Darkness so he orchestrates the murder of the Unicorn by tricking him, using Lili. Lili reminds me greatly of Theodora from Oz (page 926): both have this innocent naïve side to them at the start of the movie. And the core story of both movies aligns by the way. Jack has that innocence as well.

“After reaching the castle, Jack's group falls into an underground prison cell in a hellish kitchen. They encounter Blunder in the same cell, revealed to be an elf gone astray, before he is dragged off by an ogre cook to be baked into a pie. Oona offers to use her magic to escape their cell and retrieve keys to free the others if she receives a kiss from Jack. He is tempted when Oona turns into an amorous Lili, but refuses to follow through, telling her "human hearts don't work that way". Oona is greatly offended and scolds Jack, reminding him it was his lust that caused the apocalypse. Despite this, she remembers what's at stake and frees everyone so they can all search for Lili and the mare.”

>> YUP! It was LUST! It’s because the Evil one and the Evil Lady were a COUPLE = LUST = Lovers. This is how she joined him in his crazy plan and she was flipped. She was innocent and naïve at first, good at heart. Until she was corrupted through sex and joined hands with the Evil One, betraying the King.

“Having fallen in love with Lili, Darkness tempts her with jewelry, a beautiful dress and promises of power and glory. Seemingly seduced, she agrees to wed him under the condition that she will be the one to kill the mare in the upcoming ritual. Overhearing their conversation, Jack and Gump learn that Darkness can be destroyed by daylight. After saving Blunder, the group takes the ogres' giant metal platters to reflect the sunlight to the chamber where the mare is to be sacrificed.”

>> Sure, lust wasn’t enough, so he promises her all the earthly riches, power and fame. Isn’t this identical to what all of these celebrities are promised when they make their contract with the Devil, sell their souls? Don’t they join the “cult” in order to become, rich and famous? Where do you think all of this originated from? Oh! Look at this, there is a ritual to kill the mare = sacrifice her. It’s a déjà vue, isn’t it? Incredible find: Darkness can be destroyed by daylight! Doesn’t this mean that only the Light can kill the Darkness?

“As the ritual begins, Lili frees the mare, but is knocked out by Darkness. While the others relay the light of the setting sun using the platters, Jack fights Darkness, finally wounding him with the severed alicorn. As the redirected sunlight blasts him to the edge of a void, Darkness warns them that because evil lurks in everyone, he will never truly be vanquished. Jack hesitates as he realizes this to be true, but overcomes his doubt and severs the evil hand holding the alicorn, thus expelling him into the void. Gump returns the stallion's horn, returning him to life and ending the winter. Jack retrieves the mystic ring from the pond and returns it to Lili, returning her to life.”

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e81704  No.14064816

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>>14064809

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>> So Lili spares the Mare: does this mean the Evil Lady spared the Queen of queen? If this was the case, then it means the Evil One was supposed to kill the King of kings and take his place. While the Evil Lady was supposed to kill the Queen of queens and then take her place, but she didn’t, she wasn’t able to do it. Why? = maybe because it was her mother? As in her biological mother maybe? It’s possible and it’s what I’ve been suspecting for some time now: one of the evil duo is the offspring of the royals.

“Jack wounds Darkness with the alicorn and using light “banishes” him = pushes him into a “void”. What is that supposed to mean = void? Ah! So Darkness will always exist because he is planted as a SEED inside almost everyone. Has the reader identified how that evil Seed is planted in us? As for the last sentence, it’s very romantic isn’t it? How Lili whom left Jack and went with Darkness ends up marrying Jack simply because he retrieved the ring. She surely can switch guys superfast.

“Alternate endings

There are three different versions of the film’s conclusion:

• In the Director's Cut, Lili wakes with Jack trying to convince her she was merely dreaming, but she is ultimately unconvinced. They confess their true love for each other, but realize they live in two different lifestyles, which causes Lili to request continuing a merely platonic relationship. Jack, happy with this request for the first time, accepts. Lili returns to her home to assume her responsibilities, promising to visit him again. Jack happily runs off into the sunset, hailed by the forest fairies and the revived unicorns.

• In the American theatrical version, Jack and Lili assure each other of their love and watch the unicorns reunite, and they run off into the sunset together, hailed by the forest fairies and the unicorns. Darkness watches them from the void, laughing.

• The European version also ends with both Jack and Lili running off into the sunset, but without Darkness's final appearance.

[…]”

>> So it’s between 1 -living in the Matrix and waking up from it; 2 - ridding into the sunset ending while evil is snickering behind their backs and finally 3 – ridding into the sunset in a lame, fade way.

Doesn’t option 2 remind us of the ending from Interstella 5555 – Crescendolls – page 584 - point 14.

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92c3b1  No.14064996

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>>14064816

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Let’s talk a bit about this movie:

First of all the physical appearance of the Lord of Darkness is a classical representation we have of Satan. It’s a very standard and publicized imagery.

His skin is RED just like the armor of the Evil One is and how Ironman’s is. He holds some sort of Staff weapon/scepter with what looks like Serpent on the upper end of it. His legs are shaped as a bovine = Bull or Antelope. He’s horned of course but the horns are represented oversized, mostly at their base. I’m undecided if these are the horns of a Bull or an Antelope; regardless, it’s a classical representation of how we know Satan in modern days.

But there are also subtle hints given to us from him. He is bare chest, with some type of cape/robe always floating behind him as if he was some type of Lord or royalty. He wears puffy large pants as if he was someone from the story of Aladdin and the Arabian nights. They look very comfy to wear. He’s given an erotic and exotic appearance on purpose to accentuate his sexual appeal; don’t forget, he’s supposed to “seduce” Lili. In one of the scenes he uses fire as a weapon which doesn’t surprise me one bit since we know the Evil One’s clan used fire enhanced weapons. Fire and the color RED are always linked to the Evil One, remember Seth etc.

This imagery of the Lord of Darkness from Legend (1985) reminds me of another movie/comic called Hellboy. See the image and compare. Notice how the flame sword, the color of his skin, the shape of the horns (clearly Antelope) but mostly those flames hovering between the horns like that. It’s all a coincidence, right? Since this is the classical, stereotyped imagery of Satan, so they all look alike, right? But whom came up with this imagery to start with? And how did they know Satan looks like this?

Lili on the other hand went through a huge transformation. She was at first wearing white, with her hair let down freely, chaste and innocent looking, so pure. She also wears some strange type of golden headdress. I’m saying strange because when you look at it from the front, it looks like the head of a snake on her head = shaped like the head of a snake.

Then a huge transformation occurs: she turns into this dark girl with an erotic deep V front cut dress. All of her innocence and her purity are gone in smoke. If you see the before and after picture, you will notice how different she became and how big the transformation was. This kinda reminds me of Miley Cyrus: how she used to be this sweet cute young girl, a role model for many youngsters. Then she transformed into this obscene disgusting sexual perversion of a walking trash can. I know this is done on purpose anons, I’m no fool, but I’m trying to say it’s the same idea behind both cases here.

According to the imagery of this movie, the Male is the Antelope and the Female is the Serpent. Hm! Interesting.

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92c3b1  No.14065037

>>14064996

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Returning Lili to life is a reflection = mirroring (((their))) desire to bring Him or Her back. By that I mean the multiple attempts of the Bloodlines through the centuries to either bring back the Evil One or bring back the Evil Lady. I believe it was attempted at least 2 times before, the second time was during the reign of Herod the Great; and now it’s (((their))) third try.

I always wondered why the 13th family of the Bloodlines, the one I call the Merovingian Bloodline, was divided into 2 branches: a British one & a French one. When you look at history, it appears that the separation happened around the time of William the Conqueror. But what’s strange is how the French branch of the family heir, after fleeing to the States and after the death of Louis XVII (in the 19th century) suddenly switched switched from a patriarchal system to a matriarchal one.

See all the problems and ideology you have nowadays with the feminism movement and how they are trying to crush the white male; that’s the origin of it = the French branch switch from male to female devil worshiping. And they were the ones pushing the women suffrage movement back in the days. It wasn’t about giving the women their rights and equality with men, (((their))) agenda turned out to be more sinister than this. I didn’t understand what it was about until a few months back. Yup! I’m still working on some points.

I realized that it was not one Evil we are dealing with as I always thought it was, but TWO: one is male and one is female. And this is how the switch occurred. The French branch stopped following the male Evil one, and started following the Evil Lady. You know how the Bloodlines claim to have the Blood of Jesus Christ in (((them)))? It’s because one of the Evil Duo is the offspring of the King of kings = ruler of the Sebetti and of Atlantis. That’s how (((they))) are able to make that claim of (((theirs))), including a claim to the throne. How does Jesus Christ fit in all of this? He does fit in it all. The answer comes later on in this thread.

And this is why the British Branch waited for the rare planetary alignment (some say this alignment happens each 2000 years while others say it happens every 20 000 years) that happened between 1980 and 1982 to have William, thinking he will be the Child of the Prophecy. Same goes for the French Branch, which also waited for that planetary alignment to have Chelsea. The British branch thinks it’s the reincarnated spirit of the Evil One being reborn; while the French branch think it’s the reincarnated spirit of the Evil Lady being reborn. Both branches are the descendants of the child that was born from the Evil One and the Evil Lady. Yeah, I know, this is an assumption so far, all I have are indirect proofs and (((their))) attachment to (((their))) roots.

You think this is all crazy talk anons?! But you seem to enjoy the idea while watching Star Wars! How many of you were fond of Anakin Skywalker? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Vader

“Darth Vader is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. The character is the primary antagonist in the original trilogy and, as Anakin Skywalker, is a primary protagonist in the prequel trilogy. Star Wars creator George Lucas has collectively referred to the first six episodic films of the franchise as "the tragedy of Darth Vader".”

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92c3b1  No.14065075

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>>14065037

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“Originally a slave on Tatooine, Anakin is a Jedi prophesied to bring balance to the Force. He is lured to the dark side of the Force by Palpatine and becomes a Sith lord, assuming the title Darth Vader. After a lightsaber battle with his former mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi, in which he is severely injured, Vader is transformed into a cyborg. He then serves the Galactic Empire as its chief enforcer. Despite this, he and his bloodlines remain destined to bring balance to the Force. Vader ultimately redeems himself by saving his son, Luke Skywalker, and killing Palpatine, sacrificing his own life in the process. He is also the secret husband of Padmé Amidala, biological father of Princess Leia, and maternal grandfather of Kylo Ren.

[…]”

>> Chuckles! Leave it to Hollywood to hide the prophecy in plain sight and have millions of people entrapped in a web of lies woven by how (((they))) see things and interpret them to be.

Now watch this clip from one of the Star Wars movies: they talk about a “coup” and then Anikan say: “in my point of view”.

Then Obi wan Kenobi says: “you were the chosen one. It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in Darkness.”

Chuckles! That’s how (((they))) interpret things; as in the Chosen Child picks the side of the Sith against the Jedi. That’s why William and Chelsea are born during that specific alignment. Both branches thought if (((they))) father the child of the prophecy, rear him, educate him according to (((their))) cult, then the child will join the dark forces = darkness. If anons read what was written about Darth Vader in the segment I put for you from his Wikipedia page, it’s said: “he and his bloodline remain DESTINED to bring balance to the Force.”

A while back, I have a friend that has a hobby in astrology and the zodiac signs and all the gibberish. Personally, none of it makes sense to me, and I have a hard time understanding how people believe in these things and follow them. Well, he’s a big fan and from time to time, when we meet, he talks a bit of the “latest” as he puts it. My long time readers know that both of us old folks have been trying to help out the young man, trying to find answers because what happened with him was unbelievable. We found out many years ago that the young man was born under a very rare and important planetary alignment but we couldn’t understand what was important about it. So while I was having a conversation with my astrology fan friend, he mentioned to me that the years 2020,2021 and 2022 are going to witness THAT SAME and EXACT planetary alignment that occurred in 1980,1981 and 1982.

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92c3b1  No.14065459

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>>14065075

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I was like: “so what, it’s not the first time we see some planetary alignment that occurs each 20 or 30 years, so what’s the big deal about this specific alignment?” He told me that this is a never seen thing before, he explained further on that this specific alignment occurs once each x thousands of years. Before it happened only once = when Jesus Christ was born. But now, it didn’t just happen “shortly” – around 2000 after the last time, but in an extreme rare case, it happening right now, only after 40 years have passed – which is according to him, a first time event. In other words, this specific alignment shouldn’t have happened after 40 years but more likely after another 2000 had gone by (some say it’s 20 000 years, I don’t know if it’s true). That is according to his words and what he read and researched.

When I went looking in the date of birth of the young man, I started to find odd things. When I say young man, I mean the Child mentioned in the prophecy. And I found out it matches a section of the Titanomachy. After a bit, just a bit of digging, loads of “strange” coincidences were noticed about his date of birth, his name and other details of the sort. It was as if it was planned to the perfection. So what’s this prophecy about you will ask me? What anons don’t know is that the events which lead to the prophecy started a long time ago, before the prophecy was told. It was a chain of events all direct by the Light to bring the pieces together. It started to be put in motion centuries ago.

And these events lead to the birth of the young man. When he was a child, something very amazing happened to him. A Spirit of Light froze time and manifested in front of the boy and told him the prophecy. It started with every single detail about him. His full name, place of birth, date, his favorite color, his school, his friends names, his parents and everything you can imagine about him, that only he and his parents know about him, including his favorite food. The Spirit even told him about his unborn siblings which he will have in the future.Then, that spirit started to tell him what will happen to him in each stage of his life. He told him about his teens, his years as a young adult, including about his career.

Then the Spirit told him that at the height of his youth he will come across a fork in the road. It’s where he has to make a choice between one of the two paths in front of him. If he chooses the first path, he will live happy, get a job, get married and have kids and a nice home. Until 3 months pass after his 33 rd birthday. It’s when, he will die, crushed in an accident. If he chose the second path, his road will be thorny but he will find himself in the middle of a storm (yes, anons a STORM).

He will be standing right at the heart of the Storm. And the Storm will swirl around him, rotate around him. The STORM will be a war between the forces of Evil and the forces of Good. Many warriors from all the nationalities worldwide will fight in this war. The war was going to last a very long time and it’s going to be hideous where a lot of people will die and loads more will live in poverty and starve. Warriors of the Light will fight valiantly, but they will be exhausted by the long fight and they will suffer heavy losses. The outcome of the fight won’t be in their favor at the end, despite how hard they fight.

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92c3b1  No.14065643

>>14065459

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At this point, the Child has another choice to make, just like Anakin Skywalker. He will be the weight on the scale, tilting the victory in favor of this or that side. If he chose to join the Good side, then the war won’t last long, it will be shorter in time. The warriors of Light will win, victory will be theirs, but it will happen after loads of hard work for some years. The other side will be crushed.

Then a new age will come. This new age depends on one last choice the young man will have to make. He will choose one of two endings; as in, either (((they))) return after a few decades or the children of the Light will reign for a very, very long time, thousands of years. It seems Potus knows of this prophecy too; listen to what My Pillow guy says around min 4.22 =“The biggest revival of Jesus in history”: https://www.bitchute.com/video/a2Di2E26grGP/

But it doesn’t stop here, some years later, the young man, me and my mentor were gathered in a place, it was midafternoon on a week day. All 3 of us were sitting in the same space. Suddenly, out of nowhere it became terribly dark outside = pitch black. All the lights went out except for a tiny candle light on a table. That candle was just a tad bigger than the size of a birthday candle. The light of the candle was flickering and it was getting weaker and weaker and the darkness was growing more and more.

We went to the windows and the French doors to see what was going on. All kinds of thoughts running in our heads, including it might be a terrorist attack. But, it was pitch-black outside, we couldn’t see anything at all, nothing, not even a shape or a single light. We were wondering what’s going on when we suddenly realized a 4th man was standing in the room, standing next to the boy. We were startled at first and an eerie silence occurred. We had no idea where he came from, no doors or windows were opened, we didn’t let him in. He pointed to the candle and talked to the young man. From this stage on, me and my mentor were only witnessing and not taking part of what happened, we simply watched.

The young man was told that the candle is the Light of Good and it was dying. There was very little time left before that Light dies = goes out. He was told that Evil has grown very strong and it’s killing the Light. It’s when we noticed a small wooden cross right behind the candle. When the young man approached the table to have a better look at the wooden cross, the candle disappeared but the Light remained. The Light was coming out from the small Wooden Cross. The “stranger” told the young man that the Cross was dying and it needed his help.

That is when we started to hear screams, horrible terrifying screams coming from outside, from the darkness. They were getting louder and louder with each passing minute. It was as if they were approaching, getting closer. We looked outside from the closed windows and we saw the darkness move as if it was a living thing, as if it was alive.

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92c3b1  No.14065718

>>14065643

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The young man headed towards the French doors. He was going to open them and goi outside to check out what was going on. That is when the man told him not to do so and to step back from the French doors. The young man only took 2 steps backwards when the screams were extremely loud and scarier than anyone can imagine. All 3 of us understood that whatever was out there, it wasn’t good, and it was already here, it arrived.

This is when we started to see all 3 of us, hands and heads and torsos coming out of the darkness just outside the French doors and all the windows. And they were trying to reach out, their arms outstretched as if they are trying to catch something or someone. It was a terrorizing sight, even for us older men. Whatever that dark thing was, it was like a fog or vapor as if it was floating but it was some type of substance that is hard to describe. It was not made of liquid nor vapor, but something in between, if that makes any sense. The screams were scarier and scarier and they were those of pain, terrible pain. Whatever those things were, they were screaming in pain. So much pain. We started to see them crawl on the walls, slowly getting inside, but they didn’t hover in the middle, in the air like when they were outside, the only place they could be on was the walls for some reason.

Naturally, we stayed away from the walls since they were crawling from all sides in and we put a big distance between us and them. Strangely, we were closer to the source of the Light = the Wooden Cross. Those creatures tried many times to grab the young man, get a hold of him, but they couldn’t reach him as they couldn’t leave the walls. All 3 of us were scared, terrified. It was something none of us could even imagine of experiencing.

Suddenly, those creatures, kinda toned it down a bit and started to hiss, giving us the impression they were waiting for something. It turned out to be someone. Out of the darkness someone huge in size came in from the French doors. It was made of the same foggy matter as the rest, but this one was double the size of a normal human. We were “small” compared to him. He didn’t crawl on the walls, but floated in mind air. He had no legs. He had horns, 4 of them. And we somehow understood that this thing was some type of commander or general of these creatures; you know, some type of leader or higher in rank.

He stood in front of the young man and looked down on him long and hard. Then he reached out, trying to grab him, more like snatch him. But amazingly, the young man was an inch, exactly an inch out of his reach. After many attempts to grab the young man, the giant creature got pissed off, lost its temper and it started talking to the young man. It was sweet talk, sugar talk, just to convince him to take one step, just one step forward. Each time the giant creature tried that, the young man said only one word back to him: NO. Then the young man took one step backwards which drove the giant creature totally mad in anger. The “stranger” whom was with us then told the young man to stay in the Light of the Wooden Cross because as long as he is in that Light, they (=darkness and demons) will NEVER be able to touch him.

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92c3b1  No.14065860

>>14065718

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But the Light was growing dimmer and that giant creature tried many times to turn off the flame of the small candle but he never could blow that candle’s Light away. As the Light grew weaker, the circle projected by it got smaller, and we, all 3 of us, listened to what that “stranger” told us: we stayed in the Light, we kept on following the retreat of the circle of Light until we were near the table and the Light was very very weak, about to go out.

The giant creature then tried another strategy: he started to offer bribes to the young man, from money, to being famous, to women, to being a genius, all the fame and glory you can image; as in anything your heart might ever want to have one day or to be. With each proposition the young man simply replied with a NO. And with each reply the giant creature lost more and more of his composure and his temper was flaring up.

After one last snap and an attempt to snatch the young man, he started to threaten to kill the young man if he doesn’t join the Dark Side. The reply he got was another NO. He tried to kill the young man several times, but each strike was void because the Light shielded the young man from each one. The giant creature started talking big and promising he will never stop on trying to kill the young man.

That’s when the “stranger” told the giant creature that no matter how many times he tries to kill the young man, he will never succeed because the young man was under the protection of the Light. He will die only when his time comes, not before. The Darkness cannot take his life because the life of the young man belonged to the Light and not the Dark. This drove the giant creature crazy and then he said that if he cannot take his life, he vows to make him suffer and turn his life into a hell, a living hell. He tried to snatch the young man one more time, ordering him to come to him, but the young man once more said NO and then something incredible happened. The Light blasted and got strong but the candle vanished.

For a moment there, all 3 of us thought that the Light died, vanished for good, but no. The Light transformed and it turned into Jesus Christ. He was standing next to the “stranger” and that’s when we finally recognized that “stranger”: he’s a Saint. And when Christ manifested that giant creature screamed like a maniac and the demons disappeared, all of them, including the big one.

Christ smiled gently at the young man and when he touched him, the young man saw a vision:

He was standing in line, the front line. Others were standing next to him and behind him, no one in front of him though: he was standing on the first line. Everyone was wearing an armor. When he looked down at his own hands, the young man noticed they were twice their normal size. He was also wearing an armor, but he was holding his helmet in his hands while his huge sword was stabbed in the ground right in front of him.

He started to smell sulfur and the smell was overbearing, suffocating and then he heard loud noises from across the field. When he looked up he saw another army in front of him, an army made of demons. Each one was more hideous than the one standing next to him. They were all armed and there were many of them. They outnumbered the army of the Light as in the scale of 1 warrior facing 10 000 demons. The young man was very confused, mostly at how he was supposed to use the huge heavy sword to fight in the upcoming battle.

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92c3b1  No.14066122

>>14065860

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That’s when someone talks to him and tells him not to worry, that everything will be alright. When he looks behind his shoulder, he find at a distance a huge angel, twice the size of a normal human standing there, in the middle of the soldiers. That angel was wearing an armor and he was ready for battle. It became clear to the young man that angel was the general of the army of Light. The angel told him that now is the time to fight but once the fight is over, he will have a talk with him and answer all of his questions. The young man was putting his helmet on when he returned to the place where we were all in at the start. And the vision ended.

It’s then that Christ handed him the armor of God and explained to him that he was chosen among many to lead the battle against the forces of Darkness. He told him that the vision He let him see was the worst outcome that MAY come. He told him that young man will know what to do with the armor when the time comes. Then Christ told him that He’s got a task for him: He asked him to spread His real message. He said those words and Christ along with the Saint vanished and the Light was everywhere, it was daylight again. It was shining so hard.

The young man rushed outside, looking at the world and searching for the Sun, but there was no one, nothing moved and there was no Sun in the sky. So he went looking for the source of the Light and he couldn’t find it. It’s then that Christ told him (he only heard His voice) to look at himself instead of looking at the sky. When the young man did that, Light started to come from the chest of the young mahis chest. Christ told him that from now one, he will carry that Light. And if one day needed, he will be called back as a warrior to fight in the last battle against Darkness.

How many of you anons, the ones reading this believe what I’m writing? Well, I said this before and I will say it again right now: if I didn’t witness this with my own eyes, I would have never believed it myself. But it’s true and it was all real. And the story doesn’t end there. If you think that was it, you are wrong. The evil ones tried many times to kill the young man and each time it happened over the years there was a manifestation of the Angelic warriors. They showed up and saved the young man’s life, many times.

Talking about this, all of this…nothing about it is logical, tangible, rational. So we kept it to ourselves for too many reasons. And the biggest one was that NO ONE WILL EVER BELIEVE US IF WE TOLD THE TRUTH. Nowadays, if you are honest and truthful, then you are stupid and alone. No one believes you, no one stands with you, no one cares and on top of it all, like the cherry on top of the cake people show how ugly they are on the inside and attack sincere people and call them stuff and make fun of them.

All of this is thanks to the Illuminati programing. When someone falls on the ground, some simply standby and watch; others pass by as if nothing is happening; some laugh and mocks that person….but….sadly…how many scramble and do their best to help that hurt person stand back up on his feet? How many of you extend a helping hand, smile gently at the hurt person and say: “let me give you a hand”? One person does that out of….how many? A 1000, 10 000 or a million? That’s how rare kindness and moral has become.

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92c3b1  No.14066182

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>>14066122

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Don’t go thinking I’m a preacher here to nag you, I’m far from it. But I’m not the only one pointing to this. For more than 6 years now, the Trump family and all of their “friends” are shouting out loud the same thing I’m saying to you. But whom is really listening? I’m here, writing a few words, and I know that my reach is limited, but I still write them down, hoping that at least ONE person out there gets it. While the Trump family and friends have been SHOWING everyone on Earth, through MANY ACTS of KINDNESS that this is the path you gotta walk on. They lead by example and that is the correct way to do it.

It’s not just Potus and Flotus showing through their actions that compassion and kindness is the only way to break the system of the Bloodlines, the system that enslaves us. Take for example Mr. Trump Jr.: During 2016 elections I read from a newspaper something about the young man. He was driving back from a place where he gave a speech or something like that for his father’s campaign. On the road, he noticed a stranded lady with her broken car parked on the side. He stopped and helped her, didn’t leave until he made sure the required help was provided to the lady and she is safe and out of need. I don’t recall if she ended up voting for Potus Trump or not, but it’s not the reason why Don Jr. stopped and helped her. He didn’t stop to gain a vote for his father. He didn’t know the lady was a Dem or a Rep when he stopped to help her. He stopped because he saw her in need, because she was stranded, because she was in trouble and she needed help. How many cars passed by her, saw her and did nothing? Not even ask her if she was alright and she was not harmed in some way? But Don Jr, did! It took ONE person, just ONE to change things for that lady and make it better for her in her hard times.

I’ve seen many persons online, either trolls or even those whom call themselves patriots or MAGA behave in a foolish, brainless way towards the young Trump. Why? Because he wore once a pink shirt instead of blue? It’s amazing how shills start the attacks on him and it spreads among the patriotic accounts….the supposed patriotic accounts. They are channeling the evil instead of putting a stop to it or standing up to it. But no one talks about the good things the young man did and is still doing.

Take a look at the video showing what I’m saying about the young man. What I wrote about this example was out of memory anons, I didn’t verify, I just went on, out of memory. Now do tell me, how many of you out there remember this about the young Trump? You see that act of kindness he did? That makes him a warrior of the Light. Why? Because it destroys the Matrix and it literally sends the spiritual demons crazy and it defeats them, they vanish, get destroyed by kindness. This is what we saw in this video, but just image what the Trump family and friends are doing behind the scenes. How many acts of kindness they do each and every single say = they lead by example and they have been inviting you to join them for 6 long years now.

That was just an example anons. The way everyone is behaving is proof that you are not awake yet, you are still in the Matrix. You’ve been stuck in the mentality of criticizing others and make fun of them, but how many of you did what Don Jr. did and was kind as he was? Whom’s the big/great guy in the room, him or the brainless ones? Whom is the one doing a good deed and whom is doing to work of evil? You think this is nothing and superficial, you are wrong. I’m not making a big deal out of nothing, I’m trying to bring attention to the real battle; because our true enemy is not of flesh but of spirit.

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92c3b1  No.14066389

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>>14066182

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What about Gen. Flynn and the rest of the “merry” gang as I call them? ^_^ Do you hear what they are saying? They keep on repeating and keep on asking you to “GET INVOLVED”, and this means roll up your selves and start working to dismantle the Matrix. See those moms and parents fighting against the mask mandate in the schools? That’s one way of fighting back. But you can do more: why aren’t the mothers fighting back against the transgender agenda (((they))) want to force on our youngest? Why aren’t parents fighting back against dumbing down our children and/or brainwashing them? Many anons are still at the beachhead as Gen. Flynn said? Yes, you are still stuck there and not moving an inch forward.

What is a beachhead: “a defended position on a beach taken from the enemy by landing forces, from which an attack can be launched.”

The Merry gang is not asking you to grab your guns and start shooting, that’s a trap the Bloodlines want you to fall in. (((They))) did that to many other nations worldwide and history is there to prove it’s a trap set to destroy you using you against you. Each one of us has a role to play and each one of us can fight back in a different way. If you are lawyer, you’ve got a role to play, if you are a mom, your role is different, if you are a soldier, your role is even more different, if you are a priest/pastor, your fight is in another way. If we unite, if each with his own capacities and fields can hit the Matrix = (((their))) system, then we can all together shatter it and free ourselves. If parents take on the schools and teacher mafia, if doctors/nurses/medical crew takes on the big Pharma and the medical mafia, if lawyers help everyone with lawsuits and give free consultation….if we all unite….what will be left of (((them))) and (((their))) system of control? How many of you have taken on Hollywood and (((their))) brainwashing? Isn’t it collapsing right now? But why you stopped there? Why aren’t you uniting to take down the other sections in the Matrix?

I’m not asking you, the reader, to believe, I’m asking you to go check things out yourselves. Go online and take a look at all the video, interviews, speeches etc. the Merry gang has been doing. Listen closely to what Gen. Flynn is saying, Lin Wood, Mr Pillow guy (sorry, I keep on forgetting the name), the lady lawyer Sidney Powell etc. They are here for a reason and they are here with a message. They have been repeating over and over again that it’s time to leave the beachhead and it’s time to charge, move forward, time to push back the enemy.

When I say that, most of you will think it’s time to grab a gun….no, no, no….they are asking you to start kicking ass without using your guns. Each and every single one of you have their own role to play depending on whom you are and what you do in life. The way a soldier fights against these monsters is different than the way, a mother, a doctor, a student, a lawyer etc. fights.

Just take a LONG look at the pictures I’ve put for you. I’ve tried to blank the faces of the innocent kids, you can find all of these pictures easily on the net. THIS IS YOU. By that I mean THIS IS YOUR SOCIETY and you are letting this happen. Don’t worry, I’m not excluded from these words. I’m fighting back against these as well. I’m a father and a grandfather. You think I’m sitting here on my butt all day and letting “this” get close to my kids and grandkids? You have no idea what I’m doing when I’m not posting in here. I’m sick and old and yet I’m fighting this back. This is what (((they))) have for our children. This is the future (((they))) have for our children. Trump ain’t going to be the one to FIX this. WE ARE. It’s up to us the people = WE THE PEOPLE….as written in the Constitution of the Stares to stop this and fight back. It’s up to us to rise and say NO.

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7881d8  No.14066690

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>>14066389

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See how the parents are happy and gleeful in these pictures? Wake them up, don’t fight them, try to win them to our side. Potus and many armies, mostly the US army, are saving the trafficked kids worldwide. I keep on hearing anons and patriots say: save the kids, save the kids! But what about these kids? The ones you see in the pictures: are they children in danger or not? Do they need saving or not? If you are a parent or a single person, how can you sit back and let such thing happen right under your nose? If you are single and don’t have kids, then wake up parents whom aren’t informed of this. Each time you have an opportunity presented to you, grab it. Those are the punches you hit (((them))) with. If you are a lawyer, and single, help the parents, guide them, volunteer to take legal measures to stop this horror. This is what awaits all the children of the WEST.

Fight like this Tiger Mother is doing; she can kick ass with elegance – starting min 26. I don’t support what this Bitchute account owner says, he’s only good to summarize up the news, but he is also someone whom kisses the feet of the Jews and Israel as in a brainwashed slave to (((them))): https://www.bitchute.com/video/tKoX2if6AuBn/

Did you have a look what (((they))) are doing to the children of the East and what most of you horribly call third world countries? That’s the other flip of the coin = the other side of the coin. Take a look at the pictures I’ve gathered for you.

How many of you reading think I’m pulling some shit on you? Sorry about the term, but I couldn’t find a better fitting word. How many reading think this has nothing to do with you and these countries have to take care of their own problems? Are you sure about that? Then what happened to the most famous WWG1WGA? I’ve stopped saying that when I saw that it’s not true. Anons just care for their stuff not what happens to others. But….it was YOU (including me) in the WEST that we let this happen. That we let dirty bloodthirsty demons become our politicians and judges and generals and….in turn, they did this to other countries, destroying them in every possible way. We saw it all, for decades and we didn’t even object or said NO. We played the ostrich. We let it happen, for decades. And we are the ones whom kept talking about Democracy and Human Rights. But we never lifted a finger to put the monsters whom did all of this to them in JAIL. We never gave a damn about them.

When you read the following article, keep in mind whom gave birth to I.S.I.S., whom funded them, whom trained them and where and whom provided them the medical treatment when they were wounded: https://gop-foreignaffairs.house.gov/blog/stop-organ-trafficking/

“Shockingly, the group is also forcibly harvesting human organs and selling them for cash:

“Islamic State has sanctioned the harvesting of human organs in a previously undisclosed ruling by the group’s Islamic scholars… U.S. officials say it was among a trove of data and other information obtained by U.S. special forces in a raid in eastern Syria in May.” (Reuters, 12/25/15)”

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7881d8  No.14066822

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>>14066690

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“Bodies have turned up in mass graves bearing surgical incisions and missing organs such as kidneys.” [In a briefing to the U.N. Security Council, Iraqi ambassador to the United Nations Mohamed Alhakim] said a dozen doctors have been executed in Mosul for refusing to participate in organ harvesting.” (New York Post, 2/18/15)

“[ISIS] has been recruiting foreign doctors for months to harvest the internal organs not only from the bodies of their own dead fighters but also from living hostages – including children – snatched from minority communities in Iraq and Syria… to sell on the lucrative international black market.” (Daily Mail, 12/19/14)

“The income helps finance a growing stream of suicide attacks and assassinations…” “It also aids the recruitment of Sunni tribal fighters and finances spectacular prison raids that liberate hundreds of fighters, as well as attacks on police patrols.” (CNN, 2/19/15)

Estimates indicate ISIS and other criminal and terror groups are raking in as much as $1 billion per year from trafficking organs on the black market. Clearly, more must be done to put a stop to this awful trade. And that’s why Rep. Dave Trott’s (R-MI) STOP Organ Trafficking Act is so important. Notably, the bill closes a gap in U.S. law that fails to recognize organ trafficking as a form of human trafficking, authorizes the president to revoke passports or deny visas to anyone convicted of organ trafficking, and improves tracking U.S. and global efforts to shut down this illicit trade. […]”

As long as we are living under the illusion of democracy, as long as it’s happening to others…we don’t care. And when someone tries to bring attention to these horrors, what do you do? How do you react and behave?

Let me give you a tiny example:

When Venezuela was slowly sinking into economic turmoil, people were starving and suffering. We saw fuel shortages and long lines of cars formed in front of gas stations. Just go back in time and check the reaction of Western anons and patriots at all of this. Look mostly at how they reacted and how they made fun of the situation and they still do. No one stopped for a second to think that the ridiculous scene we are seeing in Venezuela is actually the people afraid and suffering right there in front of our own eyes. But the mocking never stopped and how many of you looked down on them. Why is that? Why did you do that? Because they are not Americans? Because they are not French? Because they are not Germans etc.? Because they were not Westerners or an “advanced” country? Whom made these countries that way? Whom labeled them that way? Whom invented the word “Third world countries”? And yet you have the audacity to come out and say: WWG1WGA. Waw! Amazing!

These people in Venezuela needed YOU. They needed your support, your comfort, your compassion, but what did you do? What did you give them? Go online and check all of the accounts on social media and mostly notice the vocabulary and the tones used. I’m always amazed by the depth of the problem we have on our hands. This is Bloodline programing one on one. And when I come out and pointed it out, no one is willing to accept or admit that they behaved wrong, they did wrong. It’s never your fault. And the bucket is passed to the next person.

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7881d8  No.14066828

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>>14066822

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Well guess what, the bucket is going to stop with me, I’m coming out and saying it’s my fault, I didn’t do my part right, I didn’t support my fellow human whom needed me to have his back.

Now look at how things turned out: The U.S. is suffering from fuel shortages. Oops! How is the panic going in the U.S.? It’s unpleasant to be in that situation, right? It’s not fun when it happens to us, but it’s alright if it happens to others. How did the Venezuelans behave towards the Americans when the fuel shortage happened in the States? Did they go on social media and mocked you? Yeah! Maybe some did, but I’m unable to find them anywhere online. I don’t see any comments, replies or videos made by Venezuelans talking in a bad way about the hard times the Americans are living. I really did look for them online. If I travel right now to Venezuela and go door to door and ask the people what is their opinion of the fuel shortage in the United States, what will their answer be?

See what I mean anons? The WWG1WGA must come from inside of you, from your heart. You must feel with other people. You must feel and understand the suffering of others and extend a helping hand. Don Jr is a millionaire, son of a billionaire and yet, he jumped out of the car to help a lady in need. Now that is a warrior of the Light. It’s not the one whom holds a gun and brainlessly shoots people. When you are fighting Darkness, you cannot shoot it with a bullet or cut it with a blade. Only Light can vanquish the Darkness. 6 years in this fight against the forces of Darkness and anons are still unable to identify whom their true enemy is. Most are still sheep, they talk before researching, they accept injustice to others, but refuse the same thing for themselves = isn’t this selfishness?

Look at the pictures I’ve attached to the previous page anons. Third one is a compilation of randomly picked pictures from the net of Americans, from all colors, genders, backgrounds and ages, binding together and cleaning up the mess and damage done by rioters.

The Last picture is an iconic moment, where BLACK Americans are shielding an isolated policeman. Look long and hard at the faces of these Black Americans because these young lads are warriors of the Light. They are standing for what is Right, against what is Wrong. Hat tip to them from an old dog like me. Look at them, we don’t know anything about them. We don’t know if they are wealthy or not, educated or not, smart or not, funny or not etc. We know nothing of them. But what they did is proof of whom they truly are. It’s their action that spoke for them = it’s showing their moral fabric. And they decided to stand up and stop a wrong thing.

We, the old folks in the trio, were already seeing loads of inconsistencies when it came to the story told by the Bible and about the History of mankind. For decades, both me and my mentor were noticing anomalies. Things didn’t match up. The hard, tangible, archaeological evidence didn’t match the stories we were told by both the Main Stream History and the Old Testament aka = Judaism.

Now….put your own self under the microscope and check your behavior. How are you behaving? What are you doing? Then please take a look at the video I’m attaching to this page. I agree 75 % of what is said in this video, not all of it because the Bible, mostly the Old Testament is heavily manipulated and edited. We didn’t spend, me and my mentor, 40 + years researching things out for nothing.

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7881d8  No.14066843

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>>14066828

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Right now, you think I’ve gone off track from my long dig and started to preach like an old priest. Nope! I’m right on track. Do you remember what the Christ, our Savior, told the young man? Do you remember what He asked of him? = He asked him to spread His real message.

It didn’t stop there anons, probably unknown to most humans, there were some strange things happening with the Saints and the Virgin Mary, worldwide. Many Saints, regardless of nationality, were popping out and talking about the end of times; talking about the end of life on Earth and the rule of Satan to come and the rise of the Third Temple = the temple of Satan.

Please, start by reading this to get a quick idea of what’s all about: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jan/05/the-holy-mountain-monks-of-mount-athos-photo-essay

Read the Saints section very carefully anons. Now let’s check one of the Saints involved in all of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisios_of_Mount_Athos

“Saint Paisios of Mount Athos (Greek: Ὅσιος Παΐσιος ὁ Ἁγιορείτης, pronounced [ˈo:sios pai:sios o aɣiori◌ːtis]; secular name: Arsenios Eznepidis) (1924–1994), was a well-known Greek Eastern Orthodox ascetic from Mount Athos, who originated from Pharasa, Cappadocia. He was respected for his spiritual guidance and ascetic life and many people worldwide highly venerate Elder Paisios, especially in Greece and in Russia.

Venerable Elder Paisios was canonized on 13 January 2015 by the Holy Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, and the church commemorates his feast day on June 29 [OS] / July 12 [NS].

The Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church decided at its meeting of 5 May 2015 also to add the name of the Venerable Paisios of Mount Athos to the Menology of the Russian Orthodox Church, establishing his feast day on June 29/July 12, aligning with the Menology of the Orthodox Church of Constantinople during the present century.”

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7881d8  No.14066885

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>>14066843

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“Biography

On 25 July [O.S. 12 July] 1924, Arsenios Eznepidis was born in Pharasa (Çamlıca), Cappadocia, shortly before the population exchange between Greece and Turkey. Arsenios' name was given to him by St. Arsenios the Cappadocian, who baptised him, naming the child for himself and foretelling Arsenios' monastic future. After the exchange, the Eznepidis family settled in Konitsa, Epirus. Arsenios grew up there, and after intermediate public school, he learned carpentry.

During the civil war in Greece, Arsenios served as a radio operator. In 1950, having completed his service, he went to Mount Athos: first to Father Kyril, the future abbot of Koutloumousiou monastery, and then to Esphigmenou Monastery (although he was not supportive of their later opposition to the Ecumenical Patriarchate).

Arsenios, having been a novice for four years, was tonsured a Rassophore monk on 27 March 1954, and was given the name Averkios.

Soon after, Father Averkios went to the (then) idiorrhythmic brotherhood of Philotheou monastery, where his uncle was a monk. While there, he was in obedience to Elder Symeon. On 12 March 1957, Elder Symeon tonsured Father Averkios to the Small Schema, giving him the name Paisios, in honour of the indefatigable Metropolitan of Caesarea, Paisios II, whose native village was Pharasa.”

>> See how human he is. He’s not a submissive person and he participated in war, even if it was as a radio operator.

“Timeline

• 1958: Father Paisios was asked to spend time in his home village to support the faithful against Protestantism.

• 1962: Father Paisios went to Saint Catherine's Monastery on Mount Sinai.

• 1964: On his return to Mount Athos, Father Paisios took up residence at the Iviron monastery, then at Katounakia. His failing health may have led him to leave Katounakia.

• 1966: Father Paisios had an operation, and part of his lungs were removed. During this time, his friendship with the sisterhood of Monastery of St. John the Theologian in Souroti, began. Elder Paisios would place the relics of St. Arsenios the Cappadocian in this monastery.

• 1966: On 11 January 1966, Father Paisios received the Great and Angelic Schema from Elder Tikhon, at the Hermitage of the Holy Cross, of the monastery of Stavronikita.[13] After Elder Tikhon's death on 10 September 1968, Fr. Paisios resided in that hermitage.

• 1979: Elder Paisios moved to Panagouda, a hermitage belonging to Koutloumousiou Monastery. It was here that his renown grew. Between prayer and assisting his visitors, he only rested for two or three hours each night.

• 1993 October 5: Elder Paisios left Mount Athos for medical attention. Despite his wish to be gone only a few days, he was diagnosed with cancer requiring immediate surgery, and after recovery, he was transferred to the Monastery of St. John the Theologian, Souroti.

Despite wishing to return to Mount Athos, his health did not allow it.

• 1994 July 12: Having received Holy Communion the previous day, Elder Paisios died. He was buried at the Monastery in Souroti, next to the church of St Arsenios the Cappadocian.”

>> For someone special: notice the last date. Do you remember what you were told about Spring of that year? Do you understand why St. Paisios had a prophecy of the End of Times then? Connect the two points together. It was in front of you the whole time and it was hidden in plain sight. Calculate the date. Scares. Connect the dots. Think big.

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7881d8  No.14067266

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>>14066885

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“Monastic life

In 1958 Elder Paisios was asked to spend some time in and around his home village so as to support the faithful against the proselytism of Protestant groups. He greatly encouraged the faithful there, helping many people. Afterwards, in 1962, he left to visit Saint Catherine's Monastery on Sinai where he stayed for two years. During this time he became beloved of the Bedouins who benefited from his presence both spiritually as well as materially as the Elder used the money he received from the sale of his carved wooden handicraft to buy the Bedouins food.”

>> That’s so much like him.

“On his return to Mt. Athos in 1964 Elder Paisios took up residence at the Skete of Iviron before moving to Katounakia at the southernmost tip of Mt. Athos for a short stay in the wilderness there. The Elder's failing health may have been part of the reason for his departure from there. In 1966 he had an operation removing part of his lungs. It was during this time of hospitalization that his long friendship with the then young sisterhood of St. John the Theologian in Souroti, just outside Thessaloniki, began. During his operation he needed a large amount of blood and a group of novices from the monastery donated blood to save him.

In 1968 he spent time at the Monastery of Stavronikita.

Prophecies on geopolitical matters

A number of geopolitical prophecies have been credited to Elder Paisios. These include the prediction that a war between Turkey and Russia will come out and that this war lead to a restoration of a Greater Greece, including Albania, Macedonia, and Byzantium (Constantinople), and the conversion of a part of the Turks from Islam to Orthodox Christianity.

The Hieromonk Makarios of Mount Athos collected some of saint Paisios' prophecies and published them in 1990 -when the saint was still alive- in his book, "Words of Wisdom and Grace of the Elder Paisios the Hagioreite, I" (Greek).”

>> Turkey is the partner of Israel = 2 faces of one and same coin. Don’t take my word on it. You do the research. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is connected to the Bloodlines, mostly the French branch. Treaty of Lausanne ends in 2023. What happens when that treaty ends? I’ve been hinting at this many times already from the start of thread 4. Now, connect to Israel, to ISIS, to Uranium 1, to 16 years plan, to Killary and to Armageddon. It’s all connected = one big circle. And Saint Paisios’ prophecy was about (((them))) succeeding in (((their))) 16 years plan. Do you understand why the narrative for the last 5 years was Russia, Russia, Russia? = it’s to bring forward this prophecy and the End of Times. (((They))) know of this prophecy and (((they))) wanted to give it a little “push” to make it all happen = 16 years plan.

When Potus came and derailed (((their))) precious little plan what did (((they))) do? Let me ask this once more: How many times did Israel tried to ignite WW3 with the M.E. as starting point during Trump presidency? If Israel was the Holy Land and the Jews were the Chosen people of our Heavenly Father, then why are they trying so hard to start WW3? But, on the other hand….If Israel is the Land of the Fallen One and has him as its god….then it makes sense why the Jews would start WW3 = bring Armageddon = rule of Satan on Earth, right? And it makes sense why Saint Paisios said in his prophecy that the Third Temple will be rebuilt then = to bring in the Spirit of the Anti-Christ. I left clues for anons in previous threads 4 & 5.

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7881d8  No.14067330

File: a8303b31145ff13⋯.jpg (635.71 KB, 1250x1878, 625:939, elder_paisus_of_mount_atho….jpg)

>>14067266

(Please read from the start)

But Israel is not succeeding in starting WW3. Has anyone wondered why? What happened to the prophecy of St. Paisios to stop it from happening? Whom intervened? Whom really intervened? Remember St. Paisios died in July 1994. (((They))) are so desperate that the prophecy isn’t happening that (((they))) keep on poking the Russian Bear trying to trigger it all, but it ain’t gonna happen as (((they))) wished it would.

“Glorification

The Holy Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate canonized Elder Paisios on 13 January 2015. Paisios' sainthood happened quickly according to church standards, and was the second-fastest sainthood in recent church history. On Sunday 17 January 2015 many faithful from across the Balkans went on pilgrimage to the monastery in Souroti, which St. Paisios helped found in 1967, culminating five nights of continuous prayers. Archbishop Damianos of Sinai, abbot of St. Catherine's Orthodox Monastery in Egypt's Sinai peninsula since 1973, was also present at the ceremonies. […]

In 2017 on the feast day of Saint Paisios, Metropolitan Nikolaos (Protopappas) of Phthiotis remarked that "Saint Paisios was the saint of the dispirited and of sinners".While Metropolitan Seraphim (Papakostas) of Kastoria stated that "Saint Paisios is the response to those who question the presence of God".[…]

Published works

Translated into English

• Saint Arsenios the Cappadocian, translated into English and published in 1989 and 2001 by Holy Monastery "Evangelist John the Theologian", Souroti, Thessaloniki, Greece.

• Elder Hadji-Georgis the Athonite, translated into English and published in 1996 by Holy Monastery "Evangelist John the Theologian", Souroti, Thessaloniki, Greece.

• Athonite Fathers and Athonite Matters, translated into English and published in 1999 by Holy Monastery "Evangelist John the Theologian", Souroti, Thessaloniki, Greece.

• Epistles, by Elder Paisios of Mount Athos, translated into English and published in Feb 2002 by Holy Monastery "Evangelist John the Theologian", Souroti, Thessaloniki, Greece; distributed in the US by St. Herman of Alaska Monastery.

• Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 1: With Pain and Love for Contemporary Man.

• Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 2: Spiritual Awakening, 1999 & 2000.

• Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 3: Spiritual Struggle, 2001.

• Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 4: Family Life, 2012.

• Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 5: Passions and Virtues, 2016.”

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7881d8  No.14067332

>>14067330

(Please read from the start)

“In Greek

• Λόγοι Ϛʹ· Περί Προσευχής, Ἱερὸν Ἡσυχαστήριον Μοναζουσῶν "Εὐαγγελιστὴς Ἰωάννης ὁ Θεολόγος". 2012 (Spiritual Counsels, Vol. 6: On Prayer, Holy Monastery "Evangelist John the Theologian". 2012)

• Ὅσιος Παΐσιος ο Αγιορείτης, "Ωφέλιμες Διηγήσεις", Ιερά Μονή Αγίου Ιλαρίωνος Πρόμαχοι Αριδαίας. 2016 (a collection of written narratives of the saint found in his private notebook of notes, typed down and published)

• Ὅσιος Παΐσιος ο Αγιορείτης, Σημεία των Καιρών ("Signs of The Time", handwritten letter of the saint towards the society on coming events and the future)

• "Το Τετράδιο του Γέρωντος Παϊσίου", ed. Protopresbyter Georgios Manos, Ορθόδοξος Κυψέλη, 2009. (notices by the Saint on Metanoia and the Sacrament of Penance; printed with commentary and supplemental prayers)

• Ὅσιος Παΐσιος ὁ Ἁγιορείτης, "Ὁ μικρὸς Ἀνθόκηπος - Ἁγιογραφικὰ καὶ πατερικὰ χωρία ἐπιλεγμένα ἀπὸ τὸν Ἃγιο Παΐσιο τὸν Ἁγιορείτη", ed. by Ἱερὸν Ἡσυχαστήριον "Εὐαγγελιστὴς Ἰωάννης ὁ Θεολόγος". Βασιλικά Θεσσαλονίκης, 2018. (The Garden of Flowers - quotes from the Church fathers and from hagiography selected by the Saint Paisios of the Holy Mountain)

• "Γέρωντος Παϊσίου Αγιορείτου, Διδαχές και Αλληλογραφία", Εκδόσεις Η Μεταμόρφωσις του Σωτήρος, Μήλεσι. 2007 (teachings and correspondence of the saint)

Orthodox hymn

Thou, O Father, didst say with words enlightened by the Holy Spirit that many saints would have desired to live in our times, in order to strive for salvation.

For Thou didst herald to us, who live in darkness, that the time is almost ready and that those that now struggle valiantly to win their salvation will receive a martyr's reward.

For this we thank God, Who with mercy looked on His people, sending His Saint for our enlightenment, and thus with voices of joy we gladly sing to our All-Gracious Master the song: Alleluia!”

>> Amen.

After his death, Saint Paisios didn’t rest nor did he stop. He kept on appearing and talking and yes, making prophecies since his death, till recent times – take a look at the date. Please read the following testimony: https://pemptousia.com/2011/11/an-extraordinary-meeting-with-elder-paisios-seven-years-after-his-death/

“An extraordinary meeting with Elder Paisios seven years after his death!

7 November 2011

The story was taken from: http://misha.pblogs.gr/2010/07/

Introduction

Some comments made by Misha: This letter was received in 2006. It was kept hidden because of personal reasons by its recipient. Today the time has come to publish it after getting the permission from its author.”

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7881d8  No.14067349

File: 3e4129dba10aa25⋯.jpg (26.88 KB, 307x400, 307:400, Elder_Paisios.jpg)

>>14067332

(Please read from the start)

“A friend, G, met Fr Paisios, whose existence he was not aware of, in 2001(seven years after the elder’s passing), when G went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Mount Athos. The following letter describes the beautiful circumstances of the meeting, the conversation and his acquaintance with Elder Paisios.

I would like first to give thanks to the Lord, for people like Elder Paisios, and especially for dear G, who so openly entrusted me with the details of his acquaintance with Elder Paisios. I pray that Our Lady and the Elder will protect him and his family now that he is in foreign land.

My friend Misha, Hello!

Finally, almost five years later the story of my meeting with Elder Paisios is coming to a positive conclusion and therefore I can finally draw the line and find some peace at last. It is impertinent that I share this experience with someone. Especially since this someone is you, who have already met Fr Paisios. Even here, I can discern his intervention. I only want from you to listen to the whole story as a form of confession. I am certain that you will show the necessary understanding like no one else would. This is enough for me. I will also include some pictures with my story, since a picture is worth a thousand words.

25 November 2001

The path towards the Holy monastery of Karakallou: a few hours before I met with Fr Paisios. (The picture has been changed a little by the recipient to protect the privacy of the author)

I met the Elder at a similar point on the path, and he was dressed in exactly the same way. The only difference with the picture is that during the day of the meeting, the day was cold and dull and there was some snow on either side of the road. It was also especially muddy since it had only recently been cleared of the snow. At this point the road was coming into a V shape. I was getting ready to follow the left path towards the beach, since I had wrongly assumed that the monastery was close to the beach.

The Elder suddenly appeared and after telling me “You are not going in the right direction, follow me” he began taking the right hand side of the road. While I was following a few steps behind, I was wondering why on earth wasn’t he freezing since he was so thinly dressed. And also: “Why his shoes weren’t so muddy like mine were?”

I was impressed by how quickly he was walking. I had started losing my breath and I felt relieved when he finally told me: “Follow this path and Christ and our Lady will protect you. I will return to my Skete”. Beforehand, he had also commented that “they use the bulldozers and destroy the paths of the Holy Mountain” and asked me: “Is it snowing in I…?”

It all lasted more or less ten minutes.

When we each went our way, I felt that something completely strange had happened but I could not fathom what it was.”

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7881d8  No.14067393

>>14067349

(Please read from the start)

“I left the Holy Mount Athos on the 15th of December. Just as the ferryboat was being towed away from the Daphni dock, I felt utterly and deeply pained for leaving. Five years later, I know now that a huge part of me is still there.

I celebrated Christmas and the New Year 2002 with my family. Afterwards, I picked up my rag sack and went off once again.

The pain of being away from Greece was very strong once again. The years go by and the possibility of never seeing Greece again was becoming more real.

The pain was not as tough now, but the remembrance of my meeting with Elder Paisios was getting stronger. This led my brother to tell me on the phone once: “Please, let’s not start with this monk again!”

>> See how his brother responded anons! = the Bloodlines did an excellent job with brainwashing him and on his education.

“During the Olympics I had the incredible urge to build a small chapel in our place. My desire was very strong even though I had never been openly religious.

My relationship with the Church was formal. I was just showing respect for my religion and the Church and nothing more.

During the autumn of 2004 I started drawing the design and gathered together all the materials. In 2005, I built the chapel inside the room I used to have as my hobby/computer room.

Everything was going well and I was enjoying myself. It was strange but sometimes the room was filled with some wonderful scent, and I didn’t know where it was coming from. My wife could not smell anything. I built it piece by piece, using good quality cement and I hope it will last for many years to come.

I finished beginning of May 2005 and took all the pieces down to the garden in order to put them together. Beginning of August 2005 everything was ready. They sent me a small bell from Greece, some Holy water from the Church at Spata and some oil from Saint Efraim’s oil lamp.

On the 15th of August we inaugurated the Church and devoted it to our Lady. We called it “The Omnipresent Lady”

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7881d8  No.14067398

File: 03330bd1d168108⋯.jpg (27.02 KB, 384x512, 3:4, St_Paisios.jpg)

>>14067393

(Please read from the start)

“The icons have been sent as gifts from my family in Greece. Then all of a sudden weird things started happening.

During the following day, I was working at my computer. I often work with many pages simultaneously. When I finished and was closing the pages, the Elder’s picture showed up, which I had been searching for, for so long. I still didn’t know his name. I was so shocked that I immediately picked up the phone to speak to my sister: “I found the monk. He has been showing me his shoes, as if he was asking me ‘do you remember me?’ ” I also told her that I would send her a picture to show to our parish priest, in case he knew who he was. My sister, who is more down to earth, told me that it looks like he is either going to show up again or give clues as to his identity.

A few days later, I listened purely by chance to Manos Tsimilides’ programme

‘Agrypnos’ on ΝΕΤ. I heard him tell one of his listeners who was looking for the saints of the day, to look up in www.eortologio.gr. I curiously looked up the page, a truly wonderful one and very useful for people like me. I then wrote something entirely common in the Guestbook. Ten days later I received an e mail from www.kivotos.1821.gr in which they were informing me about their website. I replied asking them ‘where did they find my address’ and they replied: From the eortologio.

I very much like the site ‘kivotos Help’. They are wonderful people. I especially like the answers they give to their members’ questions. We went on to exchange some very interesting e mails. In one of them, I referred to the difficult times the modern Greek family is going through. They agreed with me and said: “Especially now that Elder Paisios is not with us anymore, to help…” I asked who exactly Elder Paisios was and they said that he was one of the best and most loved Hgiorites of recent years. They sent me two pictures. I thought that it was the right time to ask them about my elder and I sent them his pictures. I am sure they thought that I was mocking them. They simply send me his address:

http://www.athos.edo.gr/.

I visited the page but I still didn’t know his name in order to ask of him. I surfed in the internet many hours before I finally came to realize that my elder, was indeed Paisios. I believed that he had died after our meeting on the Holy Mountain on the 25th of November 2001. I asked for some more details and a brief resume of his life at the Forum of ‘athos edo’.

G angelos replied with a brief account of his life and recommended the book which hiernmonk Isaak had written. When I read about the date the elder had passed away, it was as if I had been hit by a thunderbolt. Even my wife realized it and asked me what had happened.”

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7881d8  No.14067404

>>14067398

(Please read from the start)

“I asked for the book to be sent from Greece. It is one of the most difficult ones I had ever read. It has affected me a lot. It is difficult for me to grasp all those willing hardships that he had imposed upon himself. The strength of his will was something unbelievable.

This is shortly my account of the meeting with Elder Paisios. I have no doubt that he had saved my life at that time in the Holy Mountain. He now does the same by leading my life slowly towards salvation. It has been difficult for me to write this letter to a stranger. It is something I have never done before. I would just like to show that I am not being fanatical, or rather that I have not gotten on a high horse. I am a normal person with my weaknesses…( some personal details are given here)

Many the Lord have mercy on me.

It is strange but something inside me tells me to trust you. It is something I cannot explain. But during the last few years, so many things have happened which I cannot explain anyway. I leave it up to you to consider if it is worth publishing this story. I think I owe it to him, that people should learn about this story. You may use my letter and the pictures as they are or you can tamper with them as you see fit. I hope I didn’t pester you with my rambling. I wish you all the best. Have a nice weekend.

Kind regards,

G.

Some further comments made by Misha:

All the personal details of my friend G are available to everyone. The letter in its entirety (and the parts which we have today left out) will be handed over to the right place so that it can be evaluated and presented for the benefit of those who respect the Elder. I ask all those friends who may wish to reproduce it to preserve its content and name its source in order to prevent things like “the malfunctioning phone” which often appears in personal account stories.

The end”

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7881d8  No.14067500

File: 46d4b4dbd2dfc7f⋯.jpg (109.25 KB, 700x472, 175:118, Putin_visits_Mt_Athos.jpg)

>>14067404

(Please read from the start)

From time to time, I get news from a Greek acquaintance of the latest about Saint Paisios. A few years back Saint Paisios started to talk about the End of Times having changed. There is no Armageddon = No End of Times anymore. A lot of people didn’t understand his new prophecy at first.

Instead of the End of Times, he started to talk about something, something completely different. He started to talk about a Group of Saints (which included him), worldwide = Saints from all over the world = from many countries, Saints UNITING, working hand in hand.

What are they working on? = Preparing for the AGE OF LIGHT that is to come. They are going to be the ONES whom will lead the people towards Jesus Christ. I think they will be playing the role of Bridge = guide, to bring back people whom lost their way towards Jesus Christ. And Saint Paisios named one Saint, another Saint, whom’s going to be the most active and the most “powerful” one. According to the words of Elder Paisios, that Saint is going to be the spearhead of the entire thing.

This is the information my Greek acquaintance passed onto me. I didn’t verify it myself. But I think it doesn’t matter because I know from the young man that things changed and Darkness will NOT RULE. So it’s close to what my Greek acquaintance is telling me.

If anons are not convinced by all that I’m showing them, then it’s fine, but I would like to bring attention to a little visit someone made to Mt. Athos. Look closely to the picture I’m attaching.

I have no idea what President Putin believes in; as in if he believes in the prophecies of Saint Paisios or not. But one thing is for sure: a person of his caliber isn’t going to get on a plane, leave his busy schedule and go visit Mt. Athos just out of the blue. A person like him doesn’t make such a visit if there isn’t something true or of importance there. For the skeptic readers, the ones whom don’t believe the Saint of Mt. Athos, just ask yourselves why President Putin is interested in the Elder Saint Paisios?

Next I’m going to put a LONG, very long text. It’s what Saint Paisios said about the End of Times = his prophecies. I will only comment when necessary. Please read carefully and when reading DO NOT COMPARE with the Old Testament, but with what Jesus Christ told us.

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7881d8  No.14067564

>>14067500

(Please read from the start)

Then compare with what Qteam and Potus told us about all of this: https://orthodoxword.wordpress.com/2010/03/18/elder-paissios-holy-mount-athos-on-the-end-times/

“There’s a war on today, a holy war…”

“If the Metropolitans are silent, then who will speak?”

that unsettles me is the reigning mood of tranquility. Something is in the works. We still haven’t understood properly either what’s going on, or the fact that we will die. I don’t know what will come of this. The situation is very complicated. The fate of the world depends on just a few people, but God is still putting on the brakes. We have to pray a lot, and with pain in our hearts, so that God will intervene: our times are very hard to understand. A lot of ash, rubbish, and indifference has accumulated, and a strong wind will be needed to blow it all away.”

>> The FATE OF THE WORLD DEPENDS ON JUST A FEW PEOPLE, BUT GOD IS STILL PUTTING ON THE BRAKES. The situation is complicated, but we gotta pray for God to INTERVENE. A lot of INDIFFERENCE has ACCUMULATED = Saint Paisios is nice, I call this selfishness….and a strong WIND will be needed to BLOW IT ALL AWAY = A STORM.

“It’s frightening! The Tower of Babel is upon us! Divine intervention is needed: Great upheavals are happening. What a bedlam! The minds of whole nations are in confusion. But in spite of the ferment I feel a certain consolation inside, a certain confidence. God still dwells in a part of the Christians. God’s people, people of prayer, still remain, and God in his all-goodness still tolerates us and will put everything in order. Don’t be afraid! We’ve gone through many storms, and still haven’t perished. So should we be afraid of the storm which is now gathering? We’ll not perish this time either”

>> The STORM. Please re-read this paragraph carefully.

“God loves us. In Man there’s a hidden power which comes out when necessary. The difficult years will be few. Just a lot of thunder.”

>> I adore this Saint. What he is saying is a zillion percent true. Mankind has a hidden power inside of each person, the Bloodlines have been doing (((their))) outmost best to squash that power and destroy it. I’ve said before = we resonate. If you don’t believe me, I hope you will believe Saint Paisios.

“Don’t get upset in the least, for God is above everything. He rules everyone and will bring all to the defendant’s bench to answer for what they’ve done, according to which each will receive his just desserts from God. Those who’ve in some way helped the cause of good will be rewarded, and those who do evil will be punished. God will put everyone in their place in the end, but each of us will answer for what they did in these difficult years, both in prayer and in deeds.”

>> Both in prayer and in DEEDS.

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7881d8  No.14067588

>>14067564

(Please read from the start)

“Today they’re trying to destroy faith, and for the edifice of faith to fall they quietly pull out one stone, then another. But we’re all responsible for the destruction; not just those who destroy but we who see how faith is being undermined and make no effort to strengthen it. As a result the seducers are emboldened to create even greater difficulties for us, and their rage against the Church and the monastic life increases.”

>> Isn’t this what I’ve been trying to tell you anons? We are responsible for what happened because we played the ostrich and let it happen instead of holding (((them))) accountable or trying to put a stop to this degeneracy.

“Today’s situation can be resisted only spiritually, not by worldly means. The storm will continue to rage a bit, will throw all the flotsam, everything unnecessary, onto the shore, and then the situation will become clearer. Some will receive their reward, while others will have to pay their debts.

Today there are many who strive to corrupt everything: the family, the youth, the Church. In our day it’s a true witness to speak up for one’s people, for the state is waging war against divine law. It’s laws are directed against the Law of God.”

>> The LAW of God is not the Law of Moses. That’s another lie. I will talk about the “Fantasy Tale” that is Moses when the time comes.

“But we are responsible for not letting the enemies of the Church corrupt everything. Though I’ve heard even priests say: “Don’t get involved in that. It’s none of your business!” If they had reached such a non-striving condition through prayer I would kiss their feet. But no! They’re indifferent because they want to please everyone and live in comfort.”

>> Isn’t that what we did in the Western world? YOU and ME and everyone else?

“Indifference is unacceptable even for laymen, and all the more so for the clergy. An honest, spiritual man doesn’t do anything with indifference. “Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully”, says the Prophet Jeremiah (Jer. 48:10). There’s a war on today, a holy war. I must be on the front lines. There are so many Marxists, so many Masons, so many Satanists and assorted others! So many possessed, anarchists and seduced ones! I see what awaits us, and it’s painful for me. The bitter taste of human pain is in my mouth.”

>> How indifferent are you to the pain of others? How indifferent are you to the suffering of others? How indifferent are you to the wrong around you?

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7881d8  No.14067663

>>14067588

(Please read from the start)

“The spirit of lukewarmness reigns. There’s no manliness at all! We’ve been spoiled for good! How does God still tolerate us? Today’s generation is the generation of indifference. There are no warriors The majority are fit only for parades.”

>> Remember anons, this was said before things changed. The warriors showed up. They heard the call and they showed up.

“Godlessness and blasphemy are allowed to appear on television. And the Church is silent and doesn’t excommunicate the blasphemers. And they need to be excommunicated. What are they waiting for? Let’s not wait for someone else to pull the snake out from its hole so that we can live in peace.”

>> Do you hear that? Just like Potus and Gen. Flynn, Saint Paisios is asking you to wake up, get involved and stop this evil.

“They’re silent out of indifference. What’s bad is that even people who’ve got something inside have begun to grow cool, saying: “Can I really do anything to change the situation?” We have to witness our faith with boldness, because if we continue to be silent we’ll have to answer in the end. In these difficult days each must do what’s in their power. And leave what’s out of their power to the will of God. In this way our conscience will be clear.”

>> Excellent paragraph. So true. Can I really do anything to change the situation? Guess what, we stood alone for an incredibly long time. The young man fought ALONE at first. Slowly, more and more of us started to join in the fight. (((They))) make us think we are weak and (((they))) keep on telling us that our voice doesn’t matter and doesn’t reach anyone, it doesn’t have power. (((They))) told us not to bother and go live carefree. Well….there was one person….just ONE whom couldn’t turn his head when he saw something wrong. He couldn’t play the ostrich like everyone else did. He stood up and said NO. He refused to go with the flow (((they))) designed for us.

“If we don’t resist, then our ancestors will arise from their graves. They suffered so much for the Fatherland, and we? What are we doing for it?.. If Christians don’t begin to witness their faith, to resist evil, then the destroyers will become even more insolent. But today’s Christians are no warriors. If the Church keeps silent, to avoid conflict with the government, if the metropolitans are silent, if the monks hold their peace, then who will speak up?”

>> My dear Saint Paisios, I think you are not aware that the Church is very corrupt, but it’s alright. Our Heavenly Father sent his warriors and heard the prayers of the very few whom still held Him in their hearts, for real.

“[…]”

>> It’s too long, so I’m going to skip some parts. Anons, I hope you will go to the link and read it all yourselves and meditate about all of this. God never left us. He’s always been here. It’s us whom have been away from him.

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7881d8  No.14067740

File: 01e2b51f31c6ebc⋯.jpg (18.88 KB, 300x400, 3:4, St_Paisios_painting.jpg)

>>14067663

(Please read from the start)

“A lukewarm clergy lulls the people to sleep, leaves them in their former condition so they won’t be upset. “Look”, they say. “By all means don’t say that there’ll be a war, or the Second Coming, that one must prepare oneself for death. We must not make people alarmed!”

And others speak with a false kindness, saying: “We mustn’t expose heretics and their delusions, so as to show our love for them.” Today’s people are water-soluble. There’s no leaven in them.”

>> Do not forget anons, Saint Paisios didn’t know the Bible was heavily edited and the Church was infiltrated, not to a grave extent.

“If I avoid upsetting myself to protect my fleshly comfort then I’m indifferent to holiness! Spiritual meekness is one thing, and softness and indifference are quite another. Some say: “I’m a Christian and therefore I have to be joyful and calm.” But they’re not Christian. They’re simply indifferent. And their joy is only a worldly joy.

He in whom these worldly seeds are present is no spiritual person. A spiritual person consists of nothing but pain. In other words, he’s in pain at what’s going on, he’s in pain for people’s condition. And divine comfort is bestowed upon him for his pain.”

>> For someone special: Do you understand why he lived in pain? Everything in his life HAD to be this way in order to shape him into whom he is. He never wanted this, but unlike others, he was born into this. He had no choice. Well, more like his choices were limited. He either stood up, fought back and tried to survive, or he simply gave up and gave in. Since he is a stubborn kid, he chose the thorny road. He didn’t choose to look the other way. He chose to grab Darkness from the horns instead of running away. For him to understand the pain of others, he had to feel it himself first. So when he lifts that sword of his to cut off a head…he will not show mercy…he’s made that way, he is the one whom judges whom will get mercy or not because he’s been there, not once or twice, but millions of times. He decides because he knows whom has the potential to redeem and whom doesn’t. He’s not a saint, he doesn’t want to be one. He’s the one whom picked up that sword and gave it to … fill the blank. Remember, he was picked for whom he is, including him hating this or that.

“[…]

Today God tolerates what’s going on. Tolerates, so that evil people will be unable to justify themselves. God expects patience, prayer and struggle from us. If you anger when you yourself are offended, your anger is unclean. But if someone is offended in the service of holiness, that means the zeal of God is in him. Indignation can be righteous when it’s indignation for God’s sake. That’s the only justifiable kind of indignation in a person.

It’s unseemly to become angry in one’s own defense. Resisting evildoers is another matter, however, when it’s in defense of serious spiritual matters, when our holy faith, Orthodoxy, is concerned. Then it’s your duty. To think of others, to counter the blasphemers in order to defend one’s neighbor — this is pure, because carried out in love.”

>> Compare with what I’ve been repeatedly telling you anons.

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7881d8  No.14067762

>>14067740

(Please read from the start)

“Evil lies within us. There is no love in us, so we don’t feel all people to be brothers and are tempted by [the knowledge of] their sinful ways. But it’s not right when moral failings become known to all. The injunction of the Gospels to “tell it unto the church” (Matt. 18:17) doesn’t mean that everything has to become known to everyone. By exposing the moral failings of our brother we arm the enemies of the Church, give them another pretext to escalate the war against Her. And the faith of the weak is shaken in this way too.

If you want to help the Church, then try to mend your own ways, rather than others’. In straightening yourself out you straighten out a particle of the Church. If everyone were to do that then the Church would be in perfect order. But today’s people attend to everything under the sun, only not to themselves, because it’s easy to teach others, while mending one’s own ways requires effort.”

>> Most readers will ask me: Old Thomas, are you doing that? Just to inform you, the first one I hold his feet onto fire is my own self. I’m the nagging old man that starts with himself and spread that fire onto everyone’s feet, so that everyone wakes up.

“If we expose someone out of love, with pain in our hearts, then a change will occur in his heart whether he understands us or not. But to expose without love, with partiality, only enrages to object of our exposure. Our hostility strikes against his egoism, producing sparks like flint against steel.

If we tolerate our brother out of love, he will feel it. But he also feels our hostility, even if we keep it inside and don’t express it. Our hostility arouses alarm in him. We must always ask ourselves: “Why do I want to say what I’m about to say? What is motivating me? Do I really care about my neighbor or do I just want to show him how wonderful I am, to show off a bit?” If someone tries to solve ecclesiastical problems allegedly out of faith, but really thinking of his own advantage, then how can such a person win God’s blessing?”

“Sweet words and great truths have value when uttered by righteous lips. They take root only in people of good will and clean conscience.

Truth, when used without judgment, can commit a crime. And he who possesses sincerity without reason commits a twofold evil, first against himself, then against others. Because there’s no empathy in his sincerity. A Christian must not be a fanatic but have love in his heart for all. He who throws words around carelessly, even true words, does evil.

Veneration is a good thing, and the predisposition for good is also good, but spiritual judgment and breadth are needed to guard against fanaticism, that false companion of reverence.”

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7881d8  No.14067820

>>14067762

(Please read from the start)

>> For someone special: he will never love them nor will he ever forgive them. Re-read these lines. Remember how it’s been, combine, put things together. It all had a meaning.

“Wakefulness and sobriety are needed. All that a person does he must do for the sake of God. Christ must be at the source of every movement. Much attention is required, for when we do something with the aim of pleasing others we gain no benefit.”

>> Ah! The irony of these words. How many think they are with Christ but they put a stupid temple, the temple of Satan, before Christ? Isn’t it because they don’t know Christ that they behave that way? They think if they read and learned about Christ that they know him, but it’s wrong. To know Christ, you must know him inside of you, you must FEEL him.

“We ascend to the heavens not through earthly striving but by humbling ourselves spiritually. He who goes low goes sure and never falls. Ours is an age of sensationalism and hullabaloo. But the spiritual life is not noisy. Divine enlightenment is required and when it’s not there the person abides in darkness. He may act out of good intentions but create many problems in his confusion, both for the Church and for society.

There was a time when the Holy Spirit enlightened us and showed us the way. A grand business! Today it finds no reason to descend to us. Difficult years are ahead. The Old Testament Tower of Babel was child’s play compared with our age.

It’s possible that you’ll live through much which is described in the Book of Revelations. Much is coming to the surface, little by little. The situation is horrible. Madness has gone beyond all bounds. Apostasy is upon us, and now the only thing left is for the ‘son of perdition’ (2 Thess. 2:3) to come.”

>> The Book of Revelations was written by (((them))) and added later on, much later onto the Bible. What is in that book is (((their))) view of things and how (((they))) think (((their))) Evil One will come back and finally have his rule on Earth.

“The world has turned into a madhouse A great confusion will reign, in which each government will begin to do whatever comes into its head. We’ll see how the most unlikely, the most insane, events will happen. The only good thing is that these events will happen in very quick succession.”

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7881d8  No.14067894

>>14067820

(Please read from the start)

"Ecumenism, common markets, a one-world government, a single made-to-order religion: such is the plan of these devils. The Zionists are already preparing their messiah. For them the false-messiah will be king, will rule here, on earth.

A great discord will arise. In this discord everyone will clamor for a king to save them. At that moment they’ll offer up their man, who’ll say: “I’m the Imam, I’m the fifth Buddha, I’m the Christ whom Christians are awaiting. I’m the one whom the Jehovah’s Witnesses have been waiting for. I’m the Jewish messiah.”

>> Saint Paisios is incredible, isn’t he? Anons, he is ONE of the group of Saints that will lead the way. Do you think I came in here to cut the link between Judaism and Christianity without pointing you in return in the right direction? What do I mean by that? Remember what Christ asked of the young man? = He asked him to spread his real, true message. What does that mean anons? Doesn’t it mean that we are walking on the wrong path/road for centuries now? Doesn’t that mean we have been following the wrong way, the wrong god? Doesn’t that mean that the message of Christ hasn’t reached us, but we’ve been misled, away from Him? We are here, one of the goals is to point the way…the way to Christ. We are not here to preach, we are no Saints or Holy persons. We are very normal persons and we do mistakes and we do wrong. Our job, our task…is to point the way towards Christ and towards the Saints whom will lead people towards Christ. Saint Paisios is one of these Saints. He is among those whom will lead us, including me, towards Christ. I’m here, to get the reader to know the Saint, to let people get acquainted with the Saint. When the time comes, I will introduce the other Saints. Saint Paisios is super cool. Yup! I’m using the word cool, because he is.

Anons, read the up coming few paragraphs again and again and again. Think deeply and compare with what Qteam has been telling us.

“Difficult times are ahead. Great trials await us. Christians will suffer great persecutions. Meanwhile, it’s obvious that people don’t understand that we’re on the verge of the end times, that the seal of the Antichrist is becoming a reality. As if nothing’s happening. That’s why Holy Scripture says that even the chosen will be deceived.

The Zionists want to rule the earth. To achieve their ends they use black magic and satanism. They regard satan-worship as a means to gain the strength they need to carry out their plans. They want to rule the earth using satanic power. God is not something they take into account.

One sign that the fulfillment of prophecy is near will be the destruction of the Mosque of Omar in Jerusalem. They’ll destroy it in order to restore the Temple of Solomon which used to be on the same place. In the end the Jews will pronounce the Antichrist messiah in this rebuilt temple.

The rabbis know that the true Messiah has already come and that they crucified Him. They know this, and yet they are blinded by egoism and fanaticism.”

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7881d8  No.14067941

>>14067894

(Please read from the start)

>> Saint Paisios is speaking the truth. So…he knows of this. Anons, PLEASE, everyone reading, PLEASE, spread the words of Saint Paisios. PLEASE HELP. SAVE the Christians whom are rooting for that damned temple. Please, wake people up. I’m passing the flame onto you. Because of the young man, we knew this to be the truth for decades now, but, we didn’t have a voice, we were alone and we knew we will be skinned alive if we opened up our mouths and told the truth. Now, it’s different. We are anons and we are warriors of the Light. Help the Light and start by spreading the words of Saint Paisios. If you go and tell this to anyone, no one will believe you. But, if you spread the words of the Saint. Then…maybe….just maybe….there is a chance, we have a chance. I’m asking you to pick up that sword and spread the truth. It’s time…it’s your time….to either stand up or cower down. Do NOT give up. Keep on trying, keep on pushing. Wake up people ONE at a time. I’ve been doing it ONE person at a time. It’s been hard and harsh for me, but I’ve managed to open the eyes of some, while others didn’t even listen. At least, I tried, and I’m still trying. I’m not stopping. I will not stop. The only way to stop me is to put me in the grave. And when that happens, I’m planning on coming back as a ghost and haunt people …. I’m joking there anons. I hope I managed to make one of you smile, at least. I’m just being silly because I know this is very serious, the situation is very bad. So HELP, please HELP. Do your part, go to your pastors and priests, show them about Saint Paisios. If they accept or not will be up to them, but try, at least try and watch their reaction. Don’t stop there, talk to other anons, talk to Maga, talk to Christians, non Christians, everyone…spread the word. Please.

“Two thousand years ago it was written in the Book of Revelations that people will be marked with the number ‘666’. As Holy Scripture says, the ancient Hebrews laid a tax on the peoples they conquered in various wars. The yearly tax was equal to 666 talents of gold. (3 Kings 10:14, 2 Chronicles 9:13.) Today, in order to subjugate the whole world they’ll once again introduce the old tax number linked to their glorious past. That is, ‘666’ is the number of mammon.

Everything is going as planned. They put the number a long time ago on credit cards. As a result, he who is not marked with the number ‘666’ will be unable to buy, sell, get a loan, or find work.”

>> I vote to change that number into 17 ^_~ from now on, all credit cards should start with a 17.

“Providence tells me that the Antichrist wants to subjugate the world using this system. It will be foisted upon people with the help of the mechanisms which control the world economy, for only those who receive the mark, an image with the number ‘666’, will be able to take part in economic life.

The mark will be an image which will first be placed on all products, and then people will be compelled to wear it on their hand or forehead. Little by little, after the introduction of ID cards with the three sixes, after the creation of a personal dossier, they’ll use cunning to introduce the mark.

In Brussels a whole palace with three sixes has been built to house a central computer. This computer can keep track of billions of people. And we Orthodox are resisting this because we don’t want the Antichrist and we don’t want dictatorship either.”

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7881d8  No.14067969

>>14067941

(Please read from the start)

“There will be three and a half hard years. Those who don’t agree with the system will have a rough time. They’ll constantly be trying to imprison them, using any pretext they can find. They won’t torture anyone, but without the mark it will simply be impossible for a person to live. “You’re suffering without the mark”, they’ll say. “And if you had just accepted it you would have had no difficulties.”

>> Please compare with what Qteam has been telling us, along with Potus and the Merry Gang…then compare to what we are living right now with Covid and Biden Presidency and all the crazy things we are seeing. Saint Paisios predicted all of these around 25 years before it all happened….maybe even a bit before that.

“For this reason, by learning to life a simple, moderate life here and now you’ll be able to get through those years. By getting a little bit of land, raising a little wheat and some potatoes, planting some olive trees, and keeping animals of some sort, a goat or chickens, the Christian will be able to feed his family. Stockpiling is of little use: Food doesn’t keep for long before spoiling.

But these oppressions will not last for long: three, three and a half years. For the sake of the chosen the days will be hastened. God won’t leave a person without help. Tomorrow thunder will strike, and the brief dictatorship of the Antichrist-satan will come. Then Christ will intervene, will give the whole anti-Christian system a good shaking up. He’ll trample upon evil and turn everything to good use in the end.

– And if someone receives the mark unknowingly?

It’d be better to say “uncaringly”. How can one be unknowing, when everything is crystal clear? And if a person doesn’t know, then he should become interested and find out. By accepting the mark, even unknowingly, a person loses Divine Grace and gives himself up to demonic influence. When a priest immerses the infant in the baptismal font, the infant receives the Holy Spirit without knowing it, and Divine Grace begins to abide in him.”

>> Didn’t Qteam ask us to RESEARCH? What does it mean to “become interested and find out”? Doesn’t this mean you gotta research and dig?

“Some people say: “What’s destined by God to be will be. What business is it of ours?”

They can say whatever they want, but in reality it’s not like that! Unfortunately, some modern priests diaper their flock like infants, to keep them from getting upset. “What’s going on today isn’t important”, they say. “Don’t be alarmed. All you need is to have faith in your hearts.” Or they scold: “Don’t speak on that topic, about ID cards or the mark of the beast. It will just upset people.” If they were to say instead: “Let’s try to live more spiritually, to be nearer to Christ and not to be afraid of anything. You see, the most we can suffer is martyrdom,” then they’d at least be preparing their flock for the coming tribulations.”

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7881d8  No.14067993

>>14067969

(Please read from the start)

“Knowing the truth, a person will begin to mull things over and shake himself out of his sleep. What’s going on will begin to cause him pain. He’ll begin to pray and to be on his guard, so as to not fall into that trap.”

>> As in, it’s the AWAKENING.

“[…]

The world has lost control of itself. Honor and self-sacrifice have abandoned people. The taste of sacrificial joy is unknown to today’s people, and that’s why they’re so tortured. For only when you co-participate in the pain of another do miracles happen.

If a person doesn’t cultivate in himself the spirit of self-sacrifice then he thinks only of himself and doesn’t receive Divine Grace. The more a person forgets himself, the more God remembers him Those who die heroically don’t really die. And where there’s no heroism nothing worthwhile can be expected.

[…]”

>> Here is another way to say what I’ve always trying to say = stop being selfish, and start helping others, start caring.

“I see that something is in the works, that something lies just around the corner, but it’s constantly being put off. Little delays all the time. Who’s creating the delays? God? Another month passes, then another couple of months! That’s how it all goes. But since we know what awaits us, let’s develop love in ourselves, to the degree that we can. That’s the main thing: for true brotherly love to exist between us. Kindness, love — that’s strength! Guard the secret as well as you can and don’t indulge in excessive frankness. If “he and I and the bell-ringer” are all in on the secret, then what will come of that?

Death in battle adds greatly to God’s mercy, for a person who dies the death of the brave sacrifices himself to defend others. Those who give up their lives out of pure love in order to defend their neighbor are imitating Christ. These people are supreme heroes. They arouse fear in our enemies. Death herself trembles before them, because they scorn her due to their great love, and attain immortality in this fashion, finding the key to eternity under the gravestone. They enter into eternal blessedness without difficulty.

That’s why I say to you: Cultivate self-sacrifice, brotherly love. May each of you attain a spiritual condition which will allow you to get out of difficult situations. Without a spiritual condition a person loses courage, because he loves himself. He can renounce Christ, betray Him.”

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7881d8  No.14068016

>>14067993

(Please read from the start)

“You must be ready for death. We believe that nothing is in vain, that our sacrifice has meaning.

Remove your “I” from everything you do. The person who leaves his “I” rises above the earth, moves in another atmosphere. As long as he remains inside himself he cannot become a heavenly being.

There is no spiritual life without sacrifice. Try to remember, at least a little bit, that death exists. And since we’ll die in any case, let’s not take care of ourselves too much. Look after your health, but not to the degree where you begin to bow down before your peace and well-being. I’m not asking anyone to throw themselves headlong into dangerous adventures, but you have to have at least a bit of heroism, my brother!..

Feats are committed not by the tall in size but by the audacious, the heartfelt, and the self-sacrificing. There’s no barbarity in spiritual audacity. Such people don’t fire at the enemy, but over his head, forcing him to surrender. A kind man prefers being killed to killing. The harmonious person is prepared for accepting divine powers.

The mean, the cowardly, and the small of spirit, on the other hand, use impudence to hide their fear. They’re afraid of themselves as well as others and shoot without stopping. Courage and audacity are one thing; criminality and malice quite another. In order to succeed at anything one needs a wild streak, in the positive sense. He who lacks this wild streak can become neither a hero nor a saint. The heart must become uncalculating.”

>> I love Saint Paisios. He’s incredible.

“In our age audacity has become a rarity. Water, not blood, flows in people’s veins. So if a war were to break out, God forbid, many would simply die of fright while others would lose heart, because they’re used to an easy life. Fear is necessary when it helps a person turn to God. Fear from lack of faith, from lack of trust in God, on the other hand, is ruinous.”

>> Unfortunately, the West is used to an EASY LIFE.

“Such fear is driven out by audacity. We must remember: The more a person fears, the more he is tempted by the enemy. If a person refuses to strive to become courageous, and doesn’t strive for real love, then when a difficult situation arises he’ll become a laughingstock.

The warrior takes joy in the fact that he’s dying so that others won’t have to. If you dispose yourself this way then nothing will be frightening. Courage is born from much love, kindness and self-sacrifice. Today people don’t even want to hear about death. However, he doesn’t remember about death is living outside of reality. Those who fear death and love life’s vanities are in a state of spiritual stagnation. Bold people, who always keep death before them and think about it constantly, on the other hand, conquer vanity and begin to live in eternity and heavenly joy while still here on earth.”

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7881d8  No.14068027

>>14068016

(Please read from the start)

“May he who fights in the war for Faith and Fatherland cross himself and not fear, for God is his helper! God Himself will decide whether he is to die or to live. One needs to trust God, not oneself.

The Russians will take Turkey. The Chinese will cross the Euphrates.

Providence tells me that many events will happen: The Russians will take Turkey and Turkey will disappear from the world map because a third of the Turks will become Christians, another third will die in the war and another third will leave for Mesopotamia.

The Mid-East will become a theater of a war in which the Russians will take place. Much blood will be spilled. The Chinese, with an army of 200 million, will cross the Euphrates and go all the way to Jerusalem. The sign that this event is approaching will be the destruction of the Mosque of Omar, for its destruction will mark the beginning of work by the Jews to rebuild the Temple of Solomon, which was built on the same spot.”

>> The Muslims everyone in the West hates so much are the ones preventing, stopping the construction of that damned temple. Islam has a lot of things to reform and fix but they rather die then follow Satan. They are not perfect, but they are willing to fight. They have to work on themselves a lot, mostly when it comes to women rights and equality.

“There will be a great war between Russians and Europeans, and much blood will be spilled. Greece won’t play a leading role in that war, but they’ll give her Constantinople. Not because the Russians adore the Greeks, but because no better solution will be found. The city will be handed over to the Greek Army even before it has a chance to get there.”

>> This plan has been aborted.

“The Jews, inasmuch as they’ll have great power and the help of the European leadership, will become proud and insolent beyond measure and conduct themselves shamelessly. They’ll try to rule Europe.”

>> See what Saint Paisios is saying: he used so far the words Jews, Zionist, Satanist, one world gvt. Etc. He used all the vocabulary we have been using in the Awakening. Anons are familiar with the terms now, yet the Holy Man used these terms in 1994. Let me translate it to you: Jews, Judaism, Zionist, Cabalist, Deep State, Satanists, Bloodlines, Israelis, Hebrews, Abrahamists and whatever you want to call them….they are all the same and one thing = followers of the Fallen One, the Evil One. They are his people. Saint Paisios is very clear. The Jews will start WW3 and they will build the third temple to bring forth the Anti-Christ and let Satan rule the Earth and make it his kingdom.

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7881d8  No.14068069

>>14068027

(Please read from the start)

“They’ll play all sorts of tricks, but the resulting persecutions will lead Christians to unite completely. However, they won’t unite in the way desired by those who are now engaging in various machinations to create a single church united under a single religious leadership. Christians will unite because the unfolding situation will naturally separate the sheep from the goats. Then the prophecy: “one flock and one shepherd” will actually come to pass.”

>> Potus, remember what I asked you to do? I’m asking it again: let the natural events take place. Let them know what fear is. Take it from Saint Paisios.

“Don’t give in to panic. Cowards are of use to no one. God looks at a person’s situation and helps him. We have to remain cold-blooded and use our brains. No matter what happens, we must continue to pray, think and act. It’s best to always stand up to a difficult situation using spiritual means. However that spiritual boldness which is born of holiness and striving towards God is missing today, as is the natural boldness needed in order not to turn coward in the face of danger.”

>> For someone special: doesn’t this remind you of someone specifically?

“In order to hold back a great evil, great holiness is needed. A spiritual person can hold back evil and help others. In the spiritual life the biggest coward can attain great courage by entrusting himself to Christ and His divine help. He can go to the front lines, do battle with the enemy, and win! So therefore we will fear God alone, not people, no matter how evil they may be. The fear of God makes any coward into a hero! A person becomes fearless to the extent he unites with God.”

>>Anons, these were the words of Saint Paisios, these were his prophecies. He said those things decades ago, but back then, he didn’t know that the child of the prophecy was born. He didn’t know that God was giving mankind ONE MORE CHANCE.

It’s time for anons to become true warriors of Light and stand next to that young man and fight with him, alongside him. He needs you. The first stage is to wake up and wake up others. The second stage is to start taking action as in lift ourselves from our slumber and start to fight back, one step at a time. No you are not fighting back, not YET. The young man is watching, he can see all on social media, just like I do, and he doesn’t like what he sees. I know most of you won’t even give a damn about it all. But unlike you, he stood in front of that commander demon and said NO. What are you doing? Are you saying no or are you letting evil strive?

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58a1e6  No.14072429

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>>14068069

(Please read from the start)

Saint Paisios isn’t the only Saint from the group. There are others and when the time comes, I will introduce them to you. That is, if I’m still around and get the chance to do so. But the saints are not the only ones talking: The Virgin Mary has been talking about all of this for some time. Maybe anons should research what she is saying. When was the last time you prayed and asked for her blessings?

The first picture is how we should be and how our children should be; while the second picture is what (((they))) are turning us into and teaching our children to be. And just look at all the people in that museum, walking by as if nothing is happening. Don’t worry, nothing is for free, everything has a price in the end. When you play the ostrich, you are encouraging evil to flourish and you are enabling it.

The Bloodlines already know of the prophecies of Saint Paisios. Why do you think Turkey supposedly offered to “help” the Palestinians when the last war happened between Gaza and the Jews in 2021? It was not out of the goodness of their hearts nor to come to the rescue of the Palestinians? The Turks, mostly their gvt wanted to get involved in order to bring forth the End of Times as it was prophesized by Saint Paisios. The people of Turkey are as guilty as their government if they support the crimes committed by it. The Turks have 2 choices: either they wake up and stop the evil people ruling over them, or they stand with these evil persons and be part of evil. There is no third option. If there are any Turks reading this, WAKE UP & start Fighting against evil. I know there are some good people in Turkey, so what do you choose to do?

I have more to tell you on what’s REALLY going on in the Middle East. The truth will blow your minds. We are truly watching a movie and a good movie needs great actors. I’m waiting for the signal to tell everyone about it.

I know there are a lot of you out there whom think I’ve gotten off track from the long dig in this thread and maybe most of you, if not all don’t believe a single word of what I just said, mostly about the stuff related to Saint Paisios. Let me inform you that all of this goes straight into the heart of the matter, as in straight into the heart of this dig and it’s all related to what happened back then, when the King of kings was murdered, killed by the Evil plotters.

Next I’m going to show anons, as in provide a visual via 8 movies and show you how Hollywood projected the prophecy about the child many times already.

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6906c6  No.14079503

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>>14072429

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Movie 1: Star Wars.

Anons already know of Star Wars. In this series, they talked about Anakin Skywalker being the chosen one whom will bring balance to the Force. That’s my young man. And of course, he had a teacher, a mentor he is close to, that is me; in a funny weird way, you can say, I’m his Obi Wan Kenobi. Qui-Gon Jim is my own mentor and teacher. At first, it was me and my mentor discovering one inconsistency after the other in Judaism and in history. Then my Anakin grew and I got to get acquainted to him, so he became my Padawan, sort of speak. Here, according to this movie, Anakin turns to the Dark side – please see clip on page 1 042.

See, in the movie, they let you think that the prophecy tells Anakin will turn to the Light, but he disappoints everyone, including his teacher, and he turns to the Dark Side = something no one was expecting. But at the end, for the sake of his son, after many years, Anakin tried to redeem himself. This is how (((they))) represented = interpreted the prophecy in this movie. A lot of anons will jump onto concluding that the prophecy says the young man will turn to the Dark Side. Don’t rush anons. Be a bit patient; let me show you what’s going on before making up your minds and let me remind you that this is ONE interpretation in ONE movie.

I want to bring attention to a couple of tiny details in Star Wars. The first one is the hairdo of the Padawans. Do you remember this one from the thread anons? Yup! We’ve seen it before in here. We’ve first seen in on page 97: hairdo of royal youngsters – Dendera relief of young Ramses.

What not many know about Ancient Egypt, is that they had loads of tiny vermin’s problems back then. They had loads of problems with ticks and lice etc. So apart washing and cleaning (which was mostly reserved to wealthy people, they also used to shave their head hair and also their body hair to minimize the risk of catching such things. The wealthy adults used to shave their head hair and they used to wear wigs, it was very late chronologically that they started to let their hair grow, once the hygiene improved. I mentioned the hairdo on page 944, when talking about Bes and the stela.

As for the youngsters = those whom weren’t adults yet, they used to shave most of their head hair but leave one braid or one lock of hair in the style you see it with Young Ramses. And it’s this hairdo that was copied in Star Wars to style the Padawans to note that they were still apprentices. What an amazing coincidence.

The second detail lies in the part called: the Last Jedi. There is a race taking place in one of the scenes. Just look closely to the “animals” they are ridding: haven’t we seen them before in this thread? = it’s on page 61 and it’s called the Sivatherium of Kish. I thought these animals didn’t exist and/or went extinct; so how come (((they))) know how it moves and runs and behaves? It’s an amazing coincidence isn’t it anons? For those whom are interested in such digs, if you go down this tunnel, I’m sure you are going to find loads of interesting “coincidences”. You are going to have loads of Déjà vus.

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8817a6  No.14086161

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>>14079503

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Movie 2: Beautiful Creatures.

Here’s the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beautiful_Creatures_(2013_film)

“Beautiful Creatures is a 2013 American romantic gothic fantasy film written for the screen and directed by Richard LaGravenese based on the 2009 novel of the same name by Kami Garcia and Margaret Stohl.[4] The film stars Alden Ehrenreich, Alice Englert, Jeremy Irons, Viola Davis, Emmy Rossum, Thomas Mann, and Emma Thompson.

The film was released in the United States on February 14, 2013, by Warner Bros. Pictures. It received mixed reviews from critics and grossed $60.1 million worldwide against its $60 million budget, making it a box office bomb.

Plot

In Gatlin, South Carolina, teenager Ethan Wate awakens from a recurring dream of a girl he has not met. He despairs his small-town existence and dreams of leaving for college. His first day of junior year, a newcomer Lena Duchannes resembles the girl Ethan has been dreaming about. Other students gossip about Lena's reclusive uncle, Macon Ravenwood, suggesting her family are devil worshippers. On the way home, Ethan nearly runs her over. Giving her a ride, they bond over interests.

In class, a few students insist they can not be in class with Lena, and pray to be protected from her and her family. Visibly shaken, her class windows shatter, increasing fears and suspicions she is a witch. Ethan and Lena become friends and he gives her a locket he found at Greenbriar. Both touching the locket triggers a shared flashback to the Civil War.

Macon, disapproving of their relationship, conspires with Ethan's family friend, Amma, to separate them. Lena tells Ethan that she and her family are "casters" capable of performing spells. On her sixteenth birthday, her true nature will reveal itself toward either the light or dark.”

>> First of all, notice Lena’s powers: she can communicate via dreams as in get in contact or shares some visions in dreams – sort of – I just cannot find the words to describe this. Then, when she is upset = emotional reaction, she managed to shatter the windows as in affect objects. Then, touching an object, she share a “flash back” as in have a glimpse of the past = from the civil war time. She comes from a FAMILY of CASTERS, as in it runs in the family = in the blood.

We have echoes of this with Anakin Skywalker as him being the patriarch of a bloodline who will bring balance to the Force, or something like that…. I mean the Skywalkers are all destined to leave a mark of some sort. There Anakin is the first one of the line, here Lena is part of the family, not the first one. Oh! And Anakin is male, while Lena is female. It’s as if (((they))) are unsure if the chosen child will be born male or female.

And here comes the incredible part = on her 16th birthday, her TRUE NATURE will reveal itself; in other words she will either go to the dark side or the light side. It’s undetermined here, she doesn’t know if she will turn dark or remain in the light. It’s the same idea with what we saw with Anakin Skywalker but here, she doesn’t make a choice, as in she doesn’t seem to have any free will to choose.

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9b1705  No.14087235

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>>14086161

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“Complications arise when two powerful dark casters aim to push Lena to the dark: Ridley, Lena's cousin, and Lena's mother, Sarafine, who did not raise Lena and has possessed Mrs. Lincoln, the mother of Ethan's friend Link.”

>> I’ve put some pictures from the movie. If you can watch it, it would be better. The first picture is of Lena’s cousin Ridley when she was being taken over by the dark side. If you look at how she is being taken over, it looks incredibly like she is being possessed by some invisible entity. And look at her transformation: she went from a sweet innocent girl to a seductress; even having the power to control men = males via seducing them like a succubus does.

Sarafine is Lena’s mother. First of all her name is very catching, reminding me of the Seraphim angels which I’m leaning into thinking they belonged to the clan of the Evil One. And amazingly, Sarafine is also claimed by the dark side, just like the Seraphim seems to be. That’s one heck of a coincidence here.

Sarafine doesn’t have a physical body. Doesn’t this remind anons of how Earl de Darkwood lost his physical form and chased after the Crescendolls in his spiritual form? (pages 583 – 584). So she possesses the body of a woman named Mrs. Lincoln. Hm! I wonder if this doesn’t have another meaning because the Civil Wat is also a notable theme in the movie.

Look closely at Mrs. Lincoln anons. What she wears, the cross on her neck, her “conservative” behavior etc. This is not picked randomly by the movie makers. They chose a very religious person, a mother figure, a southerner and a conservative to have her, of all people be possessed by the Evil entity that Sarafine has become.

Notice what Sarafine was turned into. Is she some sort of tree with branches coming out of her? Or is she made of some dark matter, vapor or liquid: it’s undetermined. Anons do you remember what I told you about about what all of us 3 saw on that day on page 1 045? Well, what we saw is incredibly close to this black substance that Sarafine is made of. Also notice how Evil cannot enter one’s house without being let in or invited?

“Sarafine foresees Lena will become a powerful caster, wanting Lena to use her power to purge the Earth of humans, leaving just casters. The couple have another flashback of their past with the locket, revealing that their ancestors, caster Genevieve Duchannes and mortal Confederate soldier Ethan Carter Wate, were in love. Ethan died in battle, and Genevieve revived him. Doing so laid a curse on all Duchannes women; they will go dark on their sixteenth birthday. A mortified Lena asks Amma to help, being a seer and keeper of the caster library beneath the town library, extending all across the USA. The most ancient of the books reveals the secret to undoing the curse: someone Lena loves has to die. Unwilling to take Ethan's life, Lena erases his memories of their love.”

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594674  No.14094524

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>>14087235

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>> Sarafine has the power of foresight but she cannot SEE if her daughter is going turn to the light or to the dark. So just like in Star Wars, the makers of this movie didn’t know on which side the child is going to turn. Purging the Earth of Humans and leaving only the Casters: isn’t this the plan of the Bloodlines? Purging the Earth of us and (((they))) stay alive = doesn’t this remind anons of the Georgia Stones or whatever they are called?

Genevieve Duchannes story with Ethan Carter Wate is a love story = a forbidden type of love story. Amazingly, it reminds me of the Evil Couple. From what little I’ve got so far about them, I mean their relationship with one another, it seems their love was not accepted = forbidden type. It’s the relationship between Genevieve and Ethan that started to curse = here they say it’s because she brought him back to life = she revived him. Isn’t this considered as a taboo? Isn’t this a forbidden act? It’s what I’ve been feeling from that evil couple: I mean by that this is what had happened to them = they did stuff that cannot be forgiven, not just killing the King, but other things as well. And because of the type of their relationship and the acts they committed (including killing the King of kings) they were cursed and they passed onto this curse to their descendants just like it’s the case with Genevieve and Ethan, It’s something the descendants carry within their own body in both cases, as in carry within their blood/ D.N.A. We’ve seen this notion with the Dogon culture before, didn’t we? = With the Jackal. Also, Ethan died…does this mean the Evil One died?

We have another seer in this movie apart Sarafine. This seer Amma fills, apparently, a double role of seer and library keeper. She is in charge of keeping the secret ancient books of the casters. There isn’t one library, but many worldwide, under other cities and towns. Doesn’t this mean the casters have secret rooms and passageways = a city under our own cities? Doesn’t this remind you of what the Bloodlines did? Building an underground city under the ones we have above ground? Amma also practices Voodoo = Rapist Bill and Killary’s favorite. She can communicate = talk with Spirits from the other side. Interesting, isn’t it?

In the underground secret library there is a very old Book Lena checks to see what can break the curse. That old book reminds me of the rumored ancient record book the Bloodlines keep; it’s said to be written by the blood of the victims (((they))) sacrificed. Apparently, that book contains (((their))) history and knowledge. Also an owl is depicted behind Lena while she is taking a look at the book.

“Seducing Link, Ridley gives him a bullet to use in the upcoming Civil War reenactment of the Battle of Honey Hill, also Lena's sixteenth birthday, Lena feels the shock of the curse being broken and runs to Ethan, clutching his dying body as Ridley and Sarafine encourage her to accept the dark. She lashes out in anger, sending a huge tornado through the crowd, until Ethan's body transforms into Macon, who had disguised himself to be the sacrifice to lift the curse. As he is dying, he reveals that he promised Ethan's mother to keep her son alive. These dying words encourage Lena to "claim [her]self"; she causes the moon to disappear so it cannot claim her for the dark. Allowing Ridley to flee, she pulls Sarafine from Mrs. Lincoln's body, powerfully sealing away Sarafine's spirit.”

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57dc6f  No.14099810

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>>14094524

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“Six months later, a still-amnesiac Ethan visits Amma in the library before a college tour with Link. Lena gives him a book they had once shared as a present. Lena is a half light/dark caster, like her mother and cousin. As Link and Ethan reach the town line, the town's burned exit sign reminds him momentarily, he gets out of the car, shouting Lena. She hears his call and is freed of her dark side.

[…]”

There are a lot of details in the confrontation between Lena and Sarafine. Like how Lena hides the moon. Seems like there is a connection between the Dark and the Moon, but it escapes me. Also, look at the powers of Lena, she can unleash tornadoes and seem to control the weather. Isn’t this the power the ThunderBirds had, all of them worldwide? It’s mostly noticeable with the Native American ThunderBirds. But we also know that some of the Horned Snake warrriors also controlled the weather like the Native American Horned Serpent and yes, even Pazuzu (starting page 948). I think this is stolen tech, as in the Horned Serpent warriors stole this military tech from the ThunderBird warriors.

Ripley and Sarafine represent the Evil Duo in this movie, same feminist idea as we saw with Oz movie (starting page 925). In this movie they changed things a bit, but the core idea is the same: One of the evil ones dies while the second one flees – same idea with Oz.

Anons, can you listen to the speech Sarafine gives to Lena about Motherhood. It’s simply horrible. This is what they are putting in our minds, mostly the minds of the young generation about the relationship = the bond between the mother and the daughter. This book, then the movie, targets teens and young adults as spectators mostly. So you see what (((they))) are doing? This is how your society is destroyed and how (((they))) are breaking the family apart. Once the family is broken, (((they))) take your children either turning them into (((their))) slaves (mental or physical) or (((they))) turn them into cattle (literally). This is how (((their))) poison infiltrates your family and your society. What are you going to do about it? Are you going to sit down and pretend this doesn’t concern you? Or are you going to get on your feet and so something to change things? Including keeping such harmful brainwashing methods away from children and protect society. You are being corrupted and this one of the methods (((they))) are corrupting you with and poisoning your mind: do something to stop this. Gather, organize and start working together. You can file law suits, you can boycott, you can throw the DVD if you have it etc. there are a zillion ways for you to fight this, and you can fight it on many levels.

Lena manages to push out the spiritual form of her mother out of Mrs. Lincoln body. Please anons, take a really good look at it because it’s incredibly close to what we saw on that day, as I mentioned before = about this dark substance being something between vapor and liquid; as if it floats but it also is smooth running like how liquid mercury is.

At the end of the movie, we know that Lena is half/half, as in she is half Light and half Darkness. This is different from what happened with Anakin. Here we have a 50/50 ending. Then the boy she loves calls out her name and Lena turns back to good a 100 %. It’s a total different ending than what we see with Star Wars, which makes me believe (((they))) don’t know. As in (((they))) only know of the prophecy but (((they))) don’t know which side the Child of the prophecy is going to take. (((They))) can only guess and wish for it to happen and project in the movies the Child is going to go Dark, but the truth is (((they))) don’t know what decision the child is going to take, because it’s not up to (((them))) it’s up to the Child of the prophecy. It’s up to him to choose which side he will join. It’s not up to (((them))). This is why (((they))) wanted to control the Child and have power over him. (((They))) thought if one of (((them))) can give birth to the Child and educated him into (((their))) believes, then the Child will choose Darkness because it was reared in the cult. (((They))) were wrong, the Child was born outside of the cult.

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8bf1e7  No.14105795

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>>14099810

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Movie 3: The conjuring 2.

Here is the Link for those whom would like to read more about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conjuring_2

“The Conjuring 2 (known in the UK and Ireland as The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Case ) is a 2016 American supernatural horror film, directed by James Wan. The screenplay is by Chad Hayes, Carey W. Hayes, Wan, and David Leslie Johnson. It is the sequel to 2013's The Conjuring, the second installment in The Conjuring series, and the third installment in the Conjuring Universe franchise. Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga reprise their roles as paranormal investigators and authors Ed and Lorraine Warren from the first film. The film follows the Warrens as they travel to the United Kingdom to assist the Hodgson family, who are experiencing poltergeist activity at their Enfield council house in 1977 which later became referred to as the Enfield poltergeist.

[…]”

>> I’m not interested in this movie much. I’m only interested in one thing in it and this is why I’m going to skip parts of the plot. You can read it yourselves in the link if you are interested.

“Plot

In 1976, paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren investigate the Amityville murders at the Amityville house, to determine if a demonic presence was truly responsible for Ronald DeFeo Jr. killing his entire family on November 13, 1974, and the subsequent haunting incident involving the Lutz family. During a seance, Lorraine is drawn into a vision where she relives the murders. The spirit of one of the killed children lures her to the basement, where she encounters a demonic nun figure and witnesses Ed being impaled, frightening her.

[…]

Ed and Lorraine quickly return to the Hodgson residence, only to find Janet possessed and the rest of the Hodgsons locked outside the house. Ed ventures inside alone and finds Janet at the window, ready to commit suicide. He manages to grab Janet in time, but is close to falling. Lightning strikes the tree in the front yard, turning it into the object that impales Ed in Lorraine's vision. Lorraine finds her Bible in which she wrote the demon's name – Valak. She addresses the demon by its name, successfully condemning it back to Hell. Janet is freed of its possession, and Lorraine pulls her and Ed to safety.

[…]”

>> You guessed it right anons: I’m interested in Valak. Not the nun or the other demons, only in Valak.

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8bf1e7  No.14105810

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>>14105795

(Please read from the start)

Let’s start by talking about the movie poster and the nun. The movie makers chose a nun to make her one of the demon forms on purpose, including her holding a chaplet. I think anons already guessed why this was done this way and you don’t need me to explain things. Anons should know that demons cannot be in the presence of anything Holy nor in the presence of Christ.

Then look at how the main actress is behaving with the thing behind the scenes. Yeah, I know this is a rubber mask but even if this is just her being silly, kissing that demon that way and publishing the image online sends a lot of negative signals, mostly to the young and weak people whom can be easily manipulated.

I want to attrack your attention next to the size as in the height of the demon. This one is a bit shorter than what he should be. How do I know that? Remember what we saw all 3 of us and how that commander demon was approximately double the size of a normal person? And yes anons, you have guessed it, this is what was standing in front of the young man and tried many times to grab him and tried to bribe him. This form of shape of a thing was in front of the young man. We don’t how, but somehow we understood that this demon was a high ranking one, like some type of general or some type of commander.

The details of the face weren’t clear to us, apart the eyes. It was as if the face was hidden behind something. So we don’t know if that commander demon’s face looked like this with pointy teeth and all of that stuff. But as I’ve told you before, there was this substance floating, something like liquid or vapor and it was covering him, including his face.

Please look at the clip I’m attaching with this page. See how the demon in the movie loses it when the main actress confronts him? Also, if you can see slow motion how he clings back onto the wall; he doesn’t vanish in midair, he vanished from the wall behind him, as if he was sucked back into the wall. Then look at how, while he is transforming from the nun shape into his horned demonic shape, there is dark substance floating around him and from him. It’s like it’s coming out from his own body or is a part of his body. Compare with what we saw with Sarafine from the movie Beautiful Creatures; see what I mean?

Yes, what was standing in front of the young man had horns very similar to these. It was hard to see them accurately though or see the details because of that dark substance. It kept on moving as if it was alive. If one day, out of bad luck the reader run into such entities, whatever you do, do NOT touch that black = dark substance. If you do, it will absorb you and you will become one with it; as in you will become part of darkness.

I’m trying to give anons a visual of what we saw on that day. This is not identical, but it’s close enough. When I saw this movie, well….it rattled me. Not to see the demon, but to see how close Hollywood made this rubber demon to the real one. I would say this is 80% close to the real thing. I told you we were terrified on that day, and I wasn’t exaggerating when I said these words. This is not something you want to see or face. This is what was standing right in front of the young man, face to face. I honestly don’t know how the young man got the courage to stand up to this demon, but he did and he kept on giving him a one word reply = NO. Think about all of this anons. If it were you standing in front of such entity, what would you do? Think hard and deep. This is no game.

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8bf1e7  No.14105825

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>>14105810

There seem to be a problem with the video I picked. I'm attaching a new one. Sorry about that.

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06cc18  No.14112739

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>>14105810

>>14105825

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The high ranking demon we saw was not Valac, but it was one on the same level as him. Whom is Valac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valac

“Valac is a demon described in the goetic grimoires The Lesser Key of Solomon (in some versions as Ualac or Valak and in Thomas Rudd's variant as Valu), Johann Weyer's Pseudomonarchia Daemonum (as Volac), the Liber Officiorum Spirituum (as Coolor or Doolas), and in the Munich Manual of Demonic Magic (as Volach) as an angelically winged boy riding a two-headed dragon, attributed with the power of finding treasures.”

>> Here you go anons, it’s pure and simple = it’s linked to Satanism and look at the name = “Key of Solomon”. Now, do explain something to me dear reader cause I’m simple minded and don’t understand this stuff much = Why are the demons have names associated with the Keys of Solomon….whom happens to be the one whom supposedly built the temple in Jerusalem – a temple which carries his name as well? See what I mean there anons?

Why is demonology so “evolved” in Judaism? Why are the demons associated to Judaism? To Solomon? To his temple? Then look at the collection of demonic books we have here. Those books shouldn’t be around.

So this demon has an angelic appearance, he is winged and is riding a bi-cephalic dragon. He has been attributed the power of finding treasures. Why does it sound like he is some sort of metal detector machine. LoL! It’s strange that in the movie The Conjuring 2, we don’t see this aspect of Valac and his power to find treasures. What are those treasures he is supposed to find? Gold? Gems? Or some important relics? Or maybe, the important treasure, the true treasure is the souls of humans? Whom knows!

“Variations

The Lesser Key, the Munich Burnich, Rudd, and Weyer further agree in ranking Valac as a president and attributing him with the power to locate, summon, and control serpents. The Officium Spirituum similarly attributes Doolas with the power to give the summoner command of serpents as well as "household spirits," but it ranks Cooler and Doolas as princes instead of presidents.”

>> What do you think anons: these serpents mentioned, are they the animal serpent or lightning depicted as serpents? I think it’s the second option and I think they are telling us here that Valac used lightning. So did he shoot it from the blasters, some type of weapon like the Sharur or did he hold it in his hands like what we see Wonder Woman do? I have no idea. What do they mean here by saying Valac controled “household spirits”? Does it mean that spirits are held in houses like pets? This is very strange. This Valac seems to be a HIGH RANKING demon as well. Some called him a president while other called him prince. Remember the song from Queen: Princes of the Universe? ^_~ And the Bloodlines are the descendants ooooffffff…………..??????? = These Princes, which makes (((them))) princes in turn….according to (((them))) of course.

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70cc20  No.14114704

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>>14112739

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“Valac is listed 62nd in the Lesser Key (even by Rudd) and the 49th by Weyer, with either version claiming he leads 30 legions of demons (though some manuscripts say 38). The Munich Burnich describes Volach as controlling 27 legions of spirits. The Officium Spirituum (depending on the manuscript) ranks Coolor as either 21st (with no note of how many spirits he commands) or (in the copy found in the Folger Shakespeare Library) 22nd and commanding 13 legions of spirits. All extant and complete versions of the Officium Spirituum list Doolas as 25th demon, commanding 20 legions of spirits.”

>> I didn’t understand a zit of what’s written in this paragraph. All I understood is that (((they))) don’t know and don’t agree on the RANK of Valac (nor his name by the way), nor do (((they))) agree on the number of legions he commands. Only (((they))) agree on that he is a commander demon. I’m not sure, but I think the helmet with horns is a sign of the rank of these demons.

“Rudd's version uniquely has Valac opposed by the Shemhamphorasch angel Iahhel.”

>> I’m going to comment about Shemhamphorasch after I finish with this Wikipedia page.

“A manuscript titled Fasciculus Rerum Geomanticarum lists him as Volach.

“In popular culture

• The 1998 film Vampires features a character named "Valek" as the first vampire.

• "Volac" appears in the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina comic book series. In issue #7, a young Edward Spellman, father of Sabrina Spellman, summons the demon at the request of Alphonse Louis Constant.

• "Ualac" appears in the Hellboy story "Box Full of Evil" as a major antagonist.

• The 2016 horror film The Conjuring 2 has "Valak" as the main antagonist, taking on the form of a demonic nun and The Crooked Man from the rhyme There Was a Crooked Man. However, the character bears no resemblance with myth besides the name. In the film's interpretation, the demon is associated with snakes, seeking human possession to escape its confinement within the Cartha monastery of Romania. The Nun would later have a cameo in the 2017 film Annabelle: Creation and receive its own spin-off films, The Nun, released on September 7, 2018, and The Crooked Man, still in development.

• Valac appears as the fourth boss in the game Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon for the Nintendo Switch and PC. He is depicted as a two headed dragon that can fuse to make an even bigger dragon. He appears again in Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night.

• Valak appears also in the first season of Shadowhunters where it is summoned to retrieve Clary's memories back from it.

• The 2017 manga Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun has a main character named Clara Valac, a hyperactive demon girl who can make copies of anything she sees.”

>> Now, my last comment about Valac:

Look at the picture I’ve attached with this page. It’s a side by side of 2 images from 2 movies. Can anons see the similarities? If I stretch out the horns of the helmet Ares is wearing in Wonder Woman and add some spikes on his shoulders, then he becomes identical to Valac. Seeing them like this, side by side, it’s clear both are wearing an armor, as in both are wearing the same TYPE of armor = the Horned Serpent warrior armor.

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70cc20  No.14114727

>>14114704

(Please read from the start)

What is Shem Ha Mephorash we saw in the previous page? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem_HaMephorash

“The Shem HaMephorash (Hebrew: שם המפורש, alternatively Shem ha-Mephorash or Schemhamphoras), meaning the explicit name, is an originally Tannaitic term describing a hidden name of God in Kabbalah (including Christian and Hermetic variants), and in some more mainstream Jewish discourses. It is composed of either 4, 12, 22, 42, or 72 letters (or triads of letters), the last version being the most common.”

>> Amazing! Didn’t Seth conspire to kill Osiris with 72 co-conspirators? (page 838).

“12-, 22-, and 42-letter versions

[…]

The 72-fold name

The "72-fold name" is highly important to Sefer Raziel, and a key (but often missing) component to the magical practices in the Lesser Key of Solomon. It is derived from Exodus 14:19–21, read boustrophedonically to produce 72 names of three letters. This method was explained by Rashi, (b. Sukkah 45a).[ Kabbalist and occultist legends state that the 72-fold name was used by Moses to cross the Red Sea, and that it could grant later holy men the power to cast out demons, heal the sick, prevent natural disasters, and even kill enemies.

[…]

Using the 'Reversal Cipher' of the Shematria Gematria Calculator, the 72-fold name comes to the total value of 9000.”

>> So the 72 fold-name is linked to the Exodus and Moses. How nice! Gematria is an obsession and an “art” of the Dark side. The Light doesn’t need it and it’s not obsessed with it as the Dark side does.

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70cc20  No.14114745

>>14114727

(Please read from the start)

“In LaVeyan Satanism

Within LaVeyan Satanism, the term "shemhamforash" is used during rituals in and based on The Satanic Bible. The term is essentially an equivalent of "hallelujah," in the context of satanic ritual.

According to the Church of Satan website; "This word is supposed to stand for the “secret” name of the Hebrew God. To utter it was considered to be the utmost blasphemy against this deity, thereby guaranteeing one’s damnation. It is also supposed to be the “word of power” spoken by Moses to part the Red Sea. So, Satanists use it for traditional blasphemy’s sake.”

>> Let me resume things:

Hamsa: deeply imbedded in Judaism and a Kabbalah favorite.

Seraphim: deeply imbedded in Judaism and a Kabbalah favorite.

Valac along with demonology: part of Judaism and part of Kabbalah knowledge.

Ezekiel edited to make Jerusalem look good.

Noah is taken from the Epic of Gilgamesh and it’s not even accurate to the archaeological and geological evidence = edited to make it fit the Jews narrative.

All the above are important pillars in Judaism, but if we reverse the coin, flip it to its other side, we will see they are equally important pillars in Kabbalah cult = as in what is important in one is also equally important to the second. I’ve said this before, Judaism and Kabballah have MERGED LONG, VERY LONG AGO. Just check out the dates of when the “rabbi studies and meetings results” came out anons. Most, if not all, are considered of recent dates – like a few hundred years before Christ era– chronologically it’s considered very recent when compared with Ancient Egypt and the other civilizations.

And on top of it all Judaism and Kabballah have an additional common point = they are both extremely linked to the Evil One and to the ideology of the Evil One. Call him Satan or whatever you want, the ideas behind it all are heavily engraved in both Judaism and Kabballah alike. It’s like Judaism is a softer touch than the Kabbalah cult. It’s incredible how both are literally rotating, swirling around the same core. That core is none other than the Evil One and his clan, whom attempted to take the throne by murdering the King of kings = John 8:44, KJV: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Take notes anons, or keep an eye on it, because this is a pattern that is going to pop out again and it’s going to repeat many times as I progress in this thread.

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7ab715  No.14115840

File: cb3741852db1842⋯.jpg (623.75 KB, 1536x2048, 3:4, The_Matrix_movie_poster.jpg)

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>>14114745

(Please read from the start)

Movie 4: The Matrix.

This is a movie anons are very familiar with, but most missed an important FACT in it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix

“The Matrix is a 1999 science fiction action film written and directed by the Wachowskis, and produced by Joel Silver. Starring Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving, and Joe Pantoliano, and as the first installment in the Matrix franchise, it depicts a dystopian future in which humanity is unknowingly trapped inside a simulated reality, the Matrix, which intelligent machines have created to distract humans while using their bodies as an energy source. When computer programmer Thomas Anderson, under the hacker alias "Neo", uncovers the truth, he "is drawn into a rebellion against the machines" along with other people who have been freed from the Matrix.

[…]”

>> LoL! “Thomas”: maybe I should have picked another nick-name. What does NEO mean? = It means NEW, right? As in Thomas Anderson is going to be the ONE whom will bring a NEW beginning, maybe?! And it turns out to that he is a HACKER…incredible coincidence there?

“Plot

At an abandoned hotel within a major city, a police squad corners Trinity, who overpowers them with her superhuman abilities. She flees, pursued by the police and a group of suited Agents capable of similar superhuman feats. She answers a ringing public telephone and vanishes just before an Agent crashes a truck into the booth.

Computer programmer Thomas Anderson, known by his hacking alias "Neo", is puzzled by repeated online encounters with the phrase "the Matrix". Trinity contacts him and tells him a man named Morpheus has the answers he seeks. A team of Agents and police, led by Agent Smith, arrives at Neo's workplace in search of him. Though Morpheus attempts to guide Neo to safety via telephone, Neo is captured and coerced into helping the Agents locate Morpheus, whom they regard as a terrorist. Neo wakes up from his apparent dream, and, undeterred, is taken by Trinity to meet Morpheus.”

>> Since anons are very well acquainted with this movie, I’m only going to comment on what is important for this thread. Morpheus is the Greek god of Dreams. This is important because one of the “powers” the young man has is “seeing through dreams”, along with other means of seeing.

“Morpheus offers Neo a choice between two pills; red to reveal the truth about the Matrix, and blue to return him to his former life. Neo swallows the red pill, his reality disintegrates, and he awakens naked in a liquid-filled pod, among countless other humans attached to an elaborate electrical system. He is retrieved and brought aboard Morpheus's flying ship, the Nebuchadnezzar.”

>> You think the name of Morpheus’ FLYING Ship was picked randomly?

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7ab715  No.14115868

File: 5adaf8916d77c88⋯.jpg (74.45 KB, 1023x579, 341:193, Red_and_blue_pill.jpg)

File: 5a2452e971cd2a2⋯.jpg (69.15 KB, 820x528, 205:132, Eagle_pattern.jpg)

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>>14115840

(Please read from the start)

What is the meaning of the red pill & and the blue pill anons? It’s the difference between an illusion and reality. It’s the difference between fiction and fact. But more importantly it’s the difference between the TRUTH and LIES.

When Morpheus presented the 2 pills to Neo, he was presenting him with more than the obvious. He was giving him a CHOICE to be a warrior of Light = TRUTH = RED PILL. Or be a warrior of Darkness = LIE = BLUE PILL. Isn’t Satan = the Fallen One the biggest liar ever, the Master of tricks, the Grand Illusionist, just like Oz in that movie (page 926)?

Allow me to use this one more time despite me putting it a few pages ago: “John 8:44, KJV: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Anons, do you think the scene we see on the second register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell of Lamashtu is the death of the King of kings (page 962)?

Amazingly, it’s like the choice Anakin has to make in Star Wars (page 1 077) between the Dark Side of the force and the Jedi side. It’s also the same choice Lena has to make in Beautiful Creatures (page 1 078) between being a Dark Caster and a Light Caster. I’m sure it’s all a coincidence!

Whom is Morpheus to Neo? Doesn’t he take the “role” of a mentor = teacher = a guide for Neo? Just like Obi Wan Kenobi does for Anakin in Star Wars. Amazing coincidence!

“As Neo recuperates from a lifetime of physical inactivity in the pod, Morpheus explains their situation: in the early 21st century, a war broke out between humanity and intelligent machines. After humans blocked the machines' access to solar energy, the machines responded by capturing humans and harvesting their bioelectric power, while keeping their minds pacified in the Matrix, a shared simulated reality modeled after the world as it was in 1999. The machines won the war, and the underground city of Zion is the last refuge of free humans. Morpheus and his crew are a group of rebels who hack into the Matrix to "unplug" enslaved humans and recruit them; their understanding of the Matrix's simulated nature allow them to bend its physical laws. Morpheus warns Neo that death within the Matrix kills the physical body, and the Agents are sentient computer programs that eliminate threats to the system, while machines called Sentinels eliminate rebels in the real world. Neo's prowess during virtual training cements Morpheus's belief that Neo is "the One", a human prophesied to free humankind.”

>> Notables:

1- Humans are used as cattle, just like Bloodlines uses us as cattle, literally.

2- Humans are sheep living in a world of illusion = “keeping their minds pacified in the Matrix” – “simulated reality”.

3- Humans have bioelectric power = spark of life.

4- Underground city of Zion = Favorite name = Zionists = Kabbalah = Judaism = Satanism = Abrahamic etc. = many names, one entity. Underground cities like we know the Bloodlines have nowadays.

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7ab715  No.14115894

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>>14115868

(Please read from the start)

1- Bending physical laws = having superhuman powers = performing miracles = reminds us of Christ and the active Saints.

2- If the spirit dies, so does the body.

3- “Rebels” = resistance = good warriors = few of them. And “Agents” = bad warriors.

4- Morpheus “believes” that Neo is “THE ONE”; as in the “CHOSEN ONE” = the One they have been waiting for to free the HUMANS from the SLAVERY the MACHINES have put them in.

5- A HUMAN = not a god or a saint but a SIMPLE HUMAN whom is PROPHESIED to FREE Humankind

How many of YOU = the ANONS, MISSED the PROPHECY of this movie? Does that include you Potus? Everyone is so focused on the virtual reality and the other parts of this movie that none paid attention to the PROPHECY. Are you starting to see this movie = The Matrix with new eyes anons?

“The group enters the Matrix to visit the Oracle, the prophet who predicted that the One would emerge. She suggests to Neo that he is not the One and warns that he will have to choose between Morpheus's life and his own. Before they can leave the Matrix, Agents and police ambush the group, tipped off by Cypher, a disgruntled crew member who has betrayed Morpheus in exchange for a comfortable life in the Matrix. Morpheus is captured while the rest of the crew escapes the Agents. Cypher exits the Matrix and murders several crew members as they lie defenseless. Before he can kill Neo and Trinity, Cypher is killed by Tank, a crewman whom he had only rendered unconscious.”

>> What is an oracle? = a priest or priestess acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the gods in classical antiquity. Amazingly, this Oracle even “predicts” Neo breaking her vase: see the clip. Also, notice the Beads Curtain behind Neo = see the pattern on it? It looks like a bird, doesn’t it? But not just any bird pattern = EAGLE PATTERN (image in previous page) = I think this is a subtle hint to the Thunderbirds anons.

The inscription above the door in the clip: “Know Thyself” = Temet Nosce.

“No one can tell you, you are in love, you just know it.” = No one can tell you, you are the one, you just know it. As in this is a path Neo has to walk ALONE. Neo has to discover himself, understand himself and then REALIZE WHOM HE IS = The Chosen One = The One the Prophecy talks about. No one on Earth can tell him if he is or not because it’s going to be up to him. Up to him by making the choices. Oh yes! Each time he comes to a crossroads, he has to make a choice and it’s his choices which TURN him into the Chosen One and make the Prophecy come true.

Neo quickly jumps into thinking he is NOT the One, while look at how the Oracle just waits for him to make up his choice; because she knows in order for Neo’s powers to fully awake, he must REALIZE himself he is the One and not being told he is the One. Then the Oracle in the clip tells him: “It looks like you are waiting for something […] Your next life maybe. Who knows! That’s the way these things go”. This Oracle is funny, I understand her very well. I love how she is teasing Neo.

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85273c  No.14120708

File: 5a70b66d3c5ddba⋯.png (534.62 KB, 853x480, 853:480, Cipher_with_energy_weapon.png)

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>>14115894

(Please read from the start)

Then there is: “Poor Morpheus, without him we are lost”. Then the Oracle tells Neo that Morpheus believes in him so much that he is going to sacrifice his life for him. And Neo has to make a CHOICE (another choice) and that one of them is going to die. The Oracle HATES giving good people bad news.

Lastly, the oracle tells him that he will feel better when he steps out of this room and that he is in control of his own life, remember. What does this mean anons? This has 2 meanings: the obvious shallow one…and…the deep meaning = you hold your own fate in your own hands. As in Neo can CHANGE his FATE and the fate of Morpheus if Neo choses to, wants to. We’ve seen the Queen of queens = Isis = Neith = Lady of Gebal having that power = the power to change FATE.

Cipher, a crew member or should I say team member betrays the trust of everyone and tips off the Agents. Didn’t we also see this notion in this thread with Nergal being a spy in the good guys camp and then betrayed them? So Cypher kills his own team members after he betrays them and is stopped in extremis by Tank. It’s an incredible coincidence. I’m sure it’s another coincidence that Cipher uses some type of weapon that not only emits electricity, but also forms an electrical sphere, just like the one I’m saying Hathor (pages 972-973) can make between her horns. Amazing coincidence! Truly amazing!

“The Agents interrogate Morpheus in an attempt to learn his access codes to the mainframe computer in Zion. Tank proposes killing Morpheus to prevent this, but Neo resolves to return to the Matrix to rescue him, as the Oracle prophesied; Trinity insists she accompany him. While rescuing Morpheus, Neo gains confidence in his abilities, performing feats comparable to the Agents. Morpheus and Trinity exit the Matrix, but Smith ambushes and seemingly kills Neo before he can escape. As a group of Sentinels attack the Nebuchadnezzar, Trinity professes her love for Neo, and reveals that the Oracle told her she would fall in love with the One. He awakens with newfound abilities to perceive and control the Matrix. He defeats Smith, and leaves the Matrix just as the ship's electromagnetic pulse disables the Sentinels.

Back in the Matrix, Neo makes a telephone call, promising the machines that he will show their prisoners "a world where anything is possible". He hangs up and flies away.

[…]”

>> The interrogation of Morpheus to get his access codes reminds of how the Horned Serpent Clan stole the tech of the other Clans. Then, Neo makes up his mind to change the Fate of Morpheus, despite the most logical solution (which was proposed by Tank) was to unplug Morpheus. Neo simply chose to do what is NOT rational and NOT logical. He obeyed to his own feeling = senses. I don’t mean emotions here, but more like instinct, as in Neo obeyed to his gut instinct despite logic saying otherwise.

Trinity is Neo’s life partner = his heart. It’s through the heart = love that she manages to awake him to the fullest of his abilities. Doesn’t this remind us of Leeloo of the movie: the 5th element (starting page 701)? Doesn’t this mean that we should activate our power through caring for others? Doesn’t this mean that caring for others destroys EVIL = in the case of this movie = the Agents? Isn’t this what Saint Paisios was talking about in his prophecies?

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d642ea  No.14127724

File: e3684cacc3c271e⋯.jpg (71.64 KB, 506x755, 506:755, Poster_The_Matrix_Reloaded.jpg)

>>14120708

(Please read from the start)

But the story doesn’t stop here anons, there is more in the sequel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_Reloaded

“The Matrix Reloaded is a 2003 American science fiction action film written and directed by the Wachowskis, and produced by Joel Silver. It is a sequel to The Matrix, and the second installment in The Matrix film franchise. Reloaded premiered on May 7, 2003, in Westwood, Los Angeles, California, and had its worldwide release by Warner Bros. on May 15, 2003, including a screening out of competition at the 2003 Cannes Film Festival. The video game Enter the Matrix and The Animatrix, a collection of short animations, supported and expanded the film's story.

[…]

Plot

Six months after the events of The Matrix, Neo and Trinity are now romantically involved. Morpheus receives a message from Captain Niobe of the Logos calling an emergency meeting of all ships of Zion. Zion has confirmed the last transmission of the Osiris: an army of Sentinels is tunneling towards Zion and will reach it within 72 hours. Commander Lock orders all ships to return to Zion to prepare for the onslaught, but Morpheus asks one ship to remain to contact the Oracle. As the Caduceus receives a message from the Oracle, one of the Caduceus crew, Bane, encounters Smith, who reveals that his previous encounter with Neo severed his connection with the Matrix and has made him a rogue program, then absorbs his avatar. Smith then uses the phone line to leave the Matrix and gain control of Bane's real body.”

>> Notables:

1 – Logos = WORD/ STORY.

2 – “Osiris: an army of Sentinels” = Here, they are projecting that Osiris is bad, exactly as the Kabbalah/Bloodlines say of Osiris (deity).

3 – 72 hours: LoL! These are a symbolic representation of the 72 co-conspirators whom murdred the King of kings, at least helped Seth in his plot to take the throne.

4 – “Commander Lock”: funny, but this actually remind me of Qteam talking about a Lock in one of their drops, but I cannot remember what it was exactly. Can someone help find that specific Qteam drop, please?

5 – The people of Zion are preparing for a full scale WAR/confrontation with the Sentinels.

6 – Look at the name chosen: Caduseus. LoL!

7 – The Oracle is still sending messages.

8 – Smith manages to “take over” the body of Bane; doesn’t this remind anons of Demon possessing humans?

“In Zion, Morpheus announces the news of the advancing machines to the people. In the Matrix, Neo meets the Oracle's bodyguard Seraph, who leads him to her. After realizing that the Oracle is part of the Matrix, Neo asks how he can trust her; she replies that this is his decision. The Oracle instructs Neo to reach the Source of the Matrix with the help of the Keymaker. As the Oracle departs, Smith appears, telling Neo that after being defeated, he refused to be deleted and is now a rogue program. He demonstrates his ability to clone himself using other inhabitants of the Matrix, including other Agents, as hosts. He then tries to absorb Neo but fails, prompting a battle between Smith's clones and Neo. Neo manages to defend himself, but is forced to retreat from the increasingly overwhelming numbers.”

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d642ea  No.14127762

File: 8c2a53c6ebeff42⋯.jpg (19.76 KB, 640x360, 16:9, The_Matrix_Reloaded_Seraph.jpg)

File: 9ed8cc6953dfe92⋯.png (1.54 MB, 1276x565, 1276:565, matrix_reloaded_keymaker.png)

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>>14127724

(Please read from the start)

>> Notables:

1 – The “bodyguard” of the Oracle is Seraph. Chuckles! Of all the names out there, it had to be Seraph. This is the exact same mirroring of the truth like with Osiris = the Kabbalah think Seraph is good, Osiris is bad; while in reality, the truth = they are the other way around. Isn’t a “bodyguard” a guardian or a protective warrior? I love coincidences. Chuckle!

2 – The Oracle is part of the Matrix: this is true because Neith/Isis/Baalat of Gebal was the Mother of at least one of the Evil Duo. So can she be trusted?

3 – Oracles tells Neo it’s up to him = his choice if he can or not trust her. In other words Neo has another CHOICE to make.

4 – THE SOURCE of the Matrix is the SOURCE of our current problem = JUDAISM. It’s how Evil managed to control Christianity and everything else. It’s the “excuse” (((they))) use, or should I say it’s the mechanism of control (((they))) have over everyone. It’s what carried the teaching of the Evil Duo for centuries and passed them on to one crazy Bloodline member to the next generations; while making the normal people become mind slaves = sheep to (((them))) = 2 birds in one stone.

5 – It just happens that there is a KEYMAKER in the Matrix Reloaded and Qteam mentions something about a KEY or was it keys? I don’t remember exactly, but if anyone reading is interested in this decode, I hope you will share in this thread.

6 – Smith is the image of the coup plotters against the King of kings. After being defeated last time when they attempted the coup, the descendants of these evil people didn’t stop, on the contrary, just like Smith, they are continuing what (((their))) ancestors have started. Still going ROGUE against our Heavenly Father.

7 – Smith tries to absorb Neo: first thing that came to my mind is Adrenochrome. The Bloodlines believe if (((they))) drink the blood of other humans, then (((they))) will absorb their energy = vitality. But amazingly, this is also what Seth did after killing Osiris in one of the versions of that myth. Then he gave a piece of the King to his co-conspirators to consume as well, in order to implicate them in the murder – account of Diodorus Siculus (page 840).

“Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity visit the Merovingian, who is imprisoning the Keymaker. The Merovingian, a rogue Matrix program with his own agenda, refuses to let him go. His wife Persephone, seeking revenge on her husband for his infidelity, leads the trio to the Keymaker. Morpheus, Trinity, and the Keymaker flee while Neo holds off the Merovingian's henchmen. Morpheus and Trinity try to escape with the Keymaker, pursued by several Agents and the Merovingian's chief henchmen, the Twins. After a long chase, Trinity escapes, Morpheus defeats the Twins, and Neo saves Morpheus and the Keymaker from Agent Johnson.”

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d642ea  No.14127792

File: 867d6d8241628bf⋯.jpg (66.32 KB, 700x700, 1:1, Pomegranate.jpg)

File: f9479ffb0e69a1c⋯.jpg (37.65 KB, 299x432, 299:432, the_matrix_reloaded_the_tw….jpg)

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>>14127762

(Please read from the start)

>> Notables:

1 – Merovingian: Do I really need to comment on this one? LoL! It’s fun when the pieces of the Puzzle start coming together, right? But it’s also annoying to know how (((they))) were hiding the TRUTH right in front of our noses while making fun of us via the movies.

2 – The movie makers specifically chose Persephone’s name (the deity) on purpose and we will be talking about her when we get to the Greek section. Don’t forget that she ATE the FORBIDDEN Fruit or how some call it: the Fruit of the Underworld = pomegranate. Which is also a SYMBOL of Armenia. Remember anons, the Hittites whom lives in Anatolia Plateau, transferred the Myths of the Middle East = Mesopotamia and Armenia to Europe when the migrated there in many waves; they directly shaped the Greek Mythology. For now, take notes.

3 – The Twins remind me of 2 different things:

A – The Nommos twins of the Dogon People (starting page 215).

B – In page 961, we saw Lamashtu on the bronze Plaque from Hell nursing 2 small animals: a boar and a fox. Seems like she had TWINS and since they were represented with different animals, it may be the twins were from different genders. It’s only a possibility.

So which is it? Is it option A or option B? I’m inclined to go with option A, at least for now, unless I find later on more details pushing me in the other direction. Why am I choosing option A? = because of “mirroring”. In this movie, as seen before, the Bloodlines are taking the truth and turning it a 180 degrees, as in white becomes black, right becomes left, up becomes down. So if (((they))) are telling us the Twins are bad in this movie, does that mean they truly are? Or is it (((them))) turning reality upside down and twisting it? Well, I’m inclined to think that way. I’m sure anons can make up their own minds about this.

The last 2 pictures I’m attaching of this page made me laugh so much. It’s really been there right in front of our noses all this time: Remember the Serpent Sebetti weapon has a lamp and 7 dots (starting page 965)? As well as Satan is considered by (((them))) as the one whom carries the light = the Light Bearer?

Proverbs 13:9, KJV = “The light of the righteous shines brightly, but the lamp of the wicked is extinguished.” Remember how the Light came out of Esteban in the Cartoon The Mysterious Cities of Gold (page 702)? Remember what I witnessed on that afternoon, when Christ put the Light inside of the young man (page 1 047)? The Light is carried inside of the body and not in a lamp. LoL! That’s why Satan is the FALSE Light Bearer. Because he doesn’t hold the Light inside of him but he holds it via a lamp. LoL! It’s funny how much (((they))) got it wrong.

I’m also curious to see what is on the Floor of the Merovingian house lobby, where Neo has his fight scene. Not just the design, but also the entire Floor layout to see if there is some type of symbol there. I was unable to find a picture of the floor from above. Anyone reading interested in helping with this one?

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8527c2  No.14131078

File: e86f53e8146192f⋯.png (1.21 MB, 1213x679, 1213:679, Screenshot_4.png)

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>>14127792

Maybe this would help? Couldn't find anything more only they say it is the Biltmore House in Asheville, North Carolina maybe that would help?

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5baa7c  No.14134915

File: 49d9317c1b4c9e5⋯.jpg (11.85 MB, 7136x4392, 892:549, SouthAfricaSatanists3.jpg)

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109a7e  No.14135508

File: 3e43c04d4af44be⋯.jpg (39.89 KB, 600x315, 40:21, Neo_meets_the_Architect.jpg)

>>14127792

(Please read from the start)

“The crews of the Nebuchadnezzar, Vigilant, and Logos help the Keymaker and Neo reach the Source. The Logos crew must destroy a power plant and the Vigilant crew must disable a back-up power station, to prevent a security system from being triggered, allowing Neo to open the door to the Source. Haunted by a vision of Trinity's death, Neo asks her to remain on the Nebuchadnezzar.”

>> Look at the names of the ships. It’s funny. And Neo is so romantic isn’t he? Do you think (((they))) are projecting in this movie the love story between the Evil One and the Evil Lady = the Evil Couple? = it’s possible, right?

“The Logos succeeds, while the Vigilant is destroyed by a Sentinel, with everyone aboard perishing. Trinity replaces the Vigilant crew and completes their mission. However, Agent Thompson corners her and they fight. As Neo, Morpheus, and the Keymaker try to reach the Source, the Smiths ambush them. The Keymaker unlocks the door to the Source, but the Smiths shoot him dead as he closes the door.”

>> Didn’t Qteam mention something about a door that is unlocked by a KEY?

“Neo meets a program called the Architect, the creator of the Matrix, who explains that Neo is himself integrated with a program and an intentional part of the Matrix, which is now in its sixth iteration. Neo is meant to stop the Matrix's fatal system crash that naturally recurs due to the concept of human choice within it. As with the five previous Ones, Neo has a choice: either return to the Source to reboot the Matrix and pick survivors to repopulate the soon-to-be-destroyed Zion, as his predecessors all did, or cause the Matrix to crash and kill everyone connected to it, which would mean humanity's extinction when Zion is destroyed. Neo learns of Trinity's situation and chooses to save her instead of returning to the Source, to which the Architect responds dismissively.”

>>So Neo choses LOVE instead of duty = feelings instead of logic. Waw! He followed his heart. And didn’t I say before that the Heart is the thing that gives the power? Hm! Where have I heard of the GRAND ARCHITECT term before?

Here, (((they))) want you to think that having a choice is an illusion a fantasy of the mind. What (((they))) really are after is you believing having a choice is NOT REAL = you have no choice. That’s where (((they))) are wrong because one of our Heavenly Father’s greatest gifts to us humans is the power of making a choice: we can choose as in we can shape our own fate by choosing, we can follow this path or that path. Isn’t this what Trump team have been highlighting all along? As in you can choose to stand up to the Bloodlines or you can bow your head to (((them))). (((They))) are afraid of you making a choice because (((they))) know, (((they))) are aware (((their))) crimes are so horrible that no one with a sane mind can chose (((their))) side; that’s why (((their))) grand magician trick is to make you believe = fall under the spell that you have no choice.

When the Architect gives Neo the choice between the SYSTEM or saving a few persons, what does that mean? Isn’t it a choice between the 16 years plan which ends in the mass killing of billions of humans AND the restart of (((their))) system, mostly the financial one? In other words, we either make sure (((they))) survived and have another go to all or we all die: is that it? And the cycle goes on and on and on…..amazingly, just like what has been happening during human history. How many times did (((they))) restart (((their))) system? Let me give you a hint: crash of 1929.

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109a7e  No.14135519

File: 7a9691c435c0548⋯.jpg (46.07 KB, 528x297, 16:9, Screens_behind_the_Archite….jpg)

>>14135508

(Please read from the start)

From the movie, we have a strange sentence where it is said that this = the reboot has already occurred 5 times and each time the other versions of Neo chose to reboot the system and this is the 6th time. Well, (((they))) do love their number 6 alright. But doesn’t this give you the creeps, anons? I mean if this sentence is real, then it means (((they))) tried to wipe out humanity several times, regardless of how times that is exactly. Each time (((they))) failed, (((they))) went at it again, started fresh new. This means, they are not going to stop, (((they))) will keep on doing this over and over again until (((they))) reach (((their))) ultimate goal.

This also reminds me of what was said in pages 86, when the 4 divine eras/reigns were mentioned in Ancient Egypt. We’ve also seen the same idea on page 247, with the Mayan Creation Myth of Mankind where in the Popol Vuh it is said there were 4 attempts for the creation of mankind; the Lancandons add that the humans were grouped according to Totemic animals. Amazing isn’t it anons, just like the Sebetti can be considered as heraldic or totemic animals for each clan ^_^ Also on page 259, there is a hint of more than ONE attempt at destroying the world. We find the same idea in page 261.

According to Mayan Creation Myth of mankind: It’s the Lightning deity that helps mankind to find Maize = corn by opening up a mountain where the Maize is. Amazing coincidence there with how the Ayar brothers came out from a cave along with the Maize and another amazing link is to the Staff-God/Viracocha/ Bochica….see how it’s all linked anons? Put them together.

And since I just connected the Sebetti to the Mayans, allow me to connect them to the Aztecs as well. On page 279, when talking about Aztlan = the ancestral home of the Aztec, there is a mention of 7 =SEVEN TRIBES which lived in SEVEN CAVES ^_^ I’m enjoying this anons. I’m not even digging deep, just scratching the surface. Loads of work to be done here and loads of digging to be done.

The last idea in this paragraph about the Matrix is the choice Neo did. He was given 2 different choices by the Architect, but Neo did something else: he chose neither. Neo made a third choice = he chose to follow his heart and save Trinity. A lot may think this is absurd, totally foolish and irrational, mostly if the entire human race is at stake, but…it’s not….because something more important happened. By making this choice, Neo changed FATE itself, once more. He didn’t limit himself to 2 choices. He had 2 doors in front of him to choose from, but he didn’t pick one of these 2 doors, instead he kicked the wall and made a third door himself. And this is the same power the Chosen Ones have; just like Neith/Isis/Baalat of Gebal has. Neo didn’t play the game of the Architect nor did he listen to reason. He didn’t follow the equation = logic.

Now I want to draw anons attention to the screen behind and around the Architect in the picture I’m attaching to this page. Doesn’t this remind anons of (((their))) surveillance system = Big Brother?

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109a7e  No.14135582

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>>14131078

Thank you for the pictures. It's hard to find anything about the place where the fight took place.

The central design turned out to be a triangle with a circle in it = Illuminati pyramid with the Eye.

No surprise there, right?

Have a great day and thank you once more.

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d7d75b  No.14141948

File: 263c1cbce46c708⋯.jpg (806.19 KB, 2200x3251, 2200:3251, The_Matrix_Revolutions_mov….jpg)

>>14135519

(Please read from the start)

“Trinity is shot as she and Agent Thompson fall off a building. Before she hits the ground, Neo catches her. He then removes the bullet from her heart and revives her. They return to the real world, where Sentinels attack them. The Nebuchadnezzar is destroyed, but the crew escape. Neo displays a new ability to disable the machines with his thoughts, but falls into a coma from the effort. The crew are picked up by another ship, the Hammer. Its captain, Roland, reveals the other ships were wiped out by the machines after someone prematurely activated an EMP, and that only one survivor, the Smith-possessed Bane, was found.

[…]”

>> I gotta admit Qteam is incredible = the HAMMER. So far, we’ve got a Key and Lock and a Hammer, all mentioned by the Qteam. I’m sure if I look closely, I will find that I’ve missed other subtle clues here and there.

I also wonder if they are hinting at something with the EMP? And what do you think of the “telepathic” or should I said “mental” power of Neo? Interesting! We do hear from time to time that there are very rare people whom have the ability to move slightly objects using only their thoughts. And if you read about this as a hobby, you will discover that this specific issue = movie objects with the mind, has been a type of obsession of the Bloodlines for a long time now, including the experiments the Nazis did on the issue.

Last section of the trilogy – the Matrix Revolutions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_Revolutions

“The Matrix Revolutions is a 2003 American science fiction action film written and directed by the Wachowskis, and produced by Joel Silver. It was the third installment of The Matrix film franchise, released six months following The Matrix Reloaded. The film was released simultaneously in 108 territories on November 5, 2003. While being the final entry in the original trilogy of the series, the Matrix storyline is continued in The Matrix Online video game. It was the first live-action feature film to be released in both regular and IMAX theaters at the same time. Despite having a mixed reception from critics, the film grossed $427.3 million worldwide. A fourth Matrix film began production in February 2020, and it is set to be released on December 22, 2021.”

>> Did you notice that when the first Matrix movie came out, it was 6 month later, then now after the second, it’s 6 month later….sooooooooooo where is the third 6 in order to get the 666? Did I miss it or is it still “in production”?

“Plot

Neo and Bane lie unconscious in the medical bay of the ship Hammer. Inside the Matrix, Neo is trapped in a subway station named Mobil Ave (an anagram for limbo), a transition zone between the Matrix and the Machine City. He meets a "family" of programs, including a girl named Sati. The "father" tells Neo the subway is controlled by the Trainman, a program loyal to the Merovingian. When Neo tries to board a train with the family, the Trainman refuses and overpowers him.”

>>Is this hinting that the “underworld” is controlled by (((them))) or (((their))) allies? Also what do you think about this “subway” doesn’t it reminds you of the “tunnels” (((they))) use? I don’t know what to make of “father”, “family” and “Sati”. Any suggestions anyone?

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d7d75b  No.14141953

File: 869169b3b945e62⋯.jpg (101.8 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, The_Matrix_Revolutions_the….jpg)

>>14141948

(Please read from the start)

“Seraph contacts Morpheus and Trinity on behalf of the Oracle, who informs them of Neo's confinement. Seraph, Morpheus and Trinity enter Club Hel, where they confront the Merovingian and force him to release Neo. Troubled by visions of the Machine City, Neo visits the Oracle, who reveals that Smith intends to destroy both the Matrix and the real world. She states that "everything that has a beginning has an end," and that the war will conclude. After Neo leaves, a large group of Smiths assimilates Sati and Seraph. The Oracle accepts her assimilation and the Smiths gain her powers of precognition, but it is not clear if she has actually been lost forever in the process.”

>>Notice how the Merovingian and his wife are wearing RED in Club Hel. Remember what I said about the RED color (page 924)? When Smith assimilates Sati and Seraph, does this symbolize the draining of their life source? Doesn’t this remind you of Adrenochrome? Also when Smith assimilates the Oracle are (((they))) telling us (((they))) have the blood of the Queen of queens running in (((them)))? = as in (((they))) can also read the future or see glimpse of it as well? Is this referring to the Looking Glass machine?

What does it mean that Smith is going to destroy both the real world and the Matrix world? Does it mean (((they))) intent to destroy the world = Earth, and also destroy Heaven as well? Like the Physical world and the Spiritual world?

“In the real world, the crews of the Nebuchadnezzar and the Hammer find and reactivate Niobe's ship, the Logos. They interrogate Bane, who says that he has no recollection of the earlier massacre. As the captains plan their defense of Zion, Neo requests a ship to travel to the Machine City. Motivated by her encounter with the Oracle, Niobe offers him the Logos. Neo departs, accompanied by Trinity. Bane, who has stowed away on the Logos, takes Trinity hostage. Neo realizes that Bane has been assimilated by Smith and a fight ensues. Bane burns Neo's eyes with a power cable, permanently blinding him. Neo, discovering an ability to perceive anything part of the machine source code in the real world as wreathed in golden light, sees and kills Bane. Trinity pilots them to the Machine City.”

>> Bane’s situation with his memory loss reminds me of what many persons have stated as in having no recollection of what took place after they were “possessed” by either good or evil spirits. Neo manages to SEE with the power of the mind or some call it the power of the Spirit. This is true. This power does exist and we see it reoccurring a lot in Hollywood movies, mostly in Action or karate scenes where the villain throws sand at the eyes of the hero and momentarily blinds him. At the end, the hero defeats the villain either through the power of perception = third eye or by relying on his hearing. You know, same idea in most of the movies.

“Niobe and Morpheus rush toward Zion in the Hammer to aid the human defenses. Zion's shipyard is overwhelmed by a horde of Sentinels, and the fatally wounded Captain Mifune instructs Kid to open the gate for the Hammer. When it arrives, it discharges its EMP, disabling all the Sentinels present but also Zion's remaining defenses. The humans are forced to retreat and wait for the next attack, thinking it will be their last stand.”

>> Too many EMP attacks in this trilogy.

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d7d75b  No.14141969

File: d984ded194a0b56⋯.jpg (82.05 KB, 600x311, 600:311, The_Matrix_Revolutions_mac….jpg)

File: 0fd28eedf608a9a⋯.png (580.29 KB, 500x667, 500:667, Grey_Eye_Iris.png)

>>14141953

(Please read from the start)

“Near the Machine City, the Logos is bombarded by thousands of missiles, causing it to crash, fatally wounding Trinity. Neo enters the Machine City and encounters "Deus Ex Machina," the machine leader. Neo warns that Smith plans to conquer both the Matrix and the real world and offers to stop Smith in exchange for peace with Zion. The machine leader agrees, and the Sentinels stop attacking Zion.”

>> The machine leader looks like an eye’s iris doesn’t it?

What’s the meaning of “Deus Ex Machina”: “an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.”

“late 17th century: modern Latin, translation of Greek theos ek mēkhanēs, ‘god from the machinery’. In Greek theatre, actors representing gods were suspended above the stage, the denouement of the play being brought about by their intervention.”

(((Their))) arrogance surely has no boundaries. So now (((they))) are saying (((they))) are god? Or gods? Or that (((their))) god is a machine? Maybe all 3, (((these))) people are sick in the end.

Sounds like Neo did a deal with the “Devil”, sort of speak…as in he chose the lesser of 2 evils.

“The Machines provide a connection for Neo to enter the Matrix. Inside, the Smith with the Oracle's powers steps forth, saying that he has foreseen his victory against Neo. After a protracted battle, Neo realizes there is no other way to win and allows himself to be assimilated. Now connected to the Source, the machine leader sends the deletion signal to the Smith program through Neo's body in the real world. This causes the Neo-Smith clone and all other Smith clones in the Matrix to be destroyed, deleting Smith once and for all. The Sentinels withdraw from Zion, Morpheus and Niobe embrace, and Neo sees a final vision of the machine city while succumbing to his injuries, as his body is carried away by the machines.”

>> Looks like Neo can channel a lot as in being some type of “bridge” for many things in this movie.

“The Matrix is rebooted, and the Architect encounters the Oracle in a park. They agree that the peace will last "as long as it can" and that those humans who desire it will be offered the opportunity to leave the Matrix. When questioned about Neo's fate, the Oracle tells Sati that she thinks they will see Neo again as Sati reveals she created a beautiful sunrise over the horizon in Neo's honor. Seraph asks the Oracle if she knew this would happen. She replies that she did not know, but she believed.

[…]”

>> So this is where my last 6 was….as in the system was rebooted for the 6th time in a row and the cycle goes on and on and on. Amazingly, the CHOICE to remain in the Matrix or get out of it REMAINS at the disposition of the Human race. Geez! And I thought we didn’t have a choice!? See what I mean by what I said earlier that NOT having a CHOICE is an illusion of (((theirs)))?

In the end, in this trilogy, it’s undetermined whom wins and it’s more like we ended where we started. See how many types of endings there are for the one and same prophecy? It’s because (((they))) don’t know what is going to happen because the choice has always been the young man’s to make, not (((theirs))). As I said before, (((they))) thought if the Child of the prophecy is raised among (((them))) in the cult, then he will do as (((they))) want and follow (((their))) way. (((They))) were wrong.

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00faec  No.14147502

File: ce8cb5bf528eeee⋯.jpeg (863.39 KB, 1948x1566, 974:783, 2A912BE1_E018_4111_B102_2….jpeg)

File: 79606ddd16405fa⋯.jpeg (722.75 KB, 2430x1360, 243:136, AF5C5CD3_8AF4_4D0F_945A_7….jpeg)

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Biblical

What is the ‘mystery machine’

Is Jesus here ?

Did ‘deepgaypedostate’ try to kill him ?

Never attempt to murder the assassins priest ;)

Lesson learned dickheads :))

No you will burn for what you’ve done ✅ 🤙🏾🍻🗡☀️

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8527c2  No.14147918

>>14141948

I saw you wanted some suggestions so i try'd to dig in some stuff. Just trying to help the old man here, i enjoy the reading you create, so try'd to find some stuff. i don't have the knowledge you have so maybe it will help you a little :).

Father; Rama Kandra, Rama = Rama or Ram, also known as Ramachandra, is a major deity in Hinduism. He is the seventh avatar and one of his most popular avatars of the god Vishnu. In Rama-centric traditions of Hinduism, he is considered the Supreme Being. Rama was born to Kaushalya and Dasharatha in Ayodhya, the ruler of the Kingdom of Kosala.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama

Mother; Lakama (Kandra?)= another name/word for Lakshmi? Lakshmi

Lakshmi, also known as Shri, is one of the principal goddesses in Hinduism. She is the goddess of wealth, fortune, power, health, love, beauty, joy and prosperity, and associated with Maya. Along with Parvati and Saraswati, she forms the trinity of Hindu goddesses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi

Daughter; Sati = alot of thing in the first place; it could be a name, practice (widow burning and here you will be leaded in the first place if you search for sati.), meaning, Sanskrit (meaning will i was typing and searching i come across this site (the definitons about (shati))

This one i think is very interesting maybe it would help you.

https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shati

Sati a daughter of Daksha ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daksha ) and Shiva. but maybe it's already told in the link from wisdomlib.

(nothing to do with this upper part but i found a other thing maybe; about the music)

Navras

by Don Davis (found on the Revolutions Soundrack)

Navrasyou can hear at the closing credits of Revolutions, the words of the main chant are taken from the Upanishads if im right.

This is what you hear:

Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya.

Shanti, Shanti, Shanti.

Which translates to:

Lead us from darkness to the light, Lead us from knowledge of the unreal to the real, Lead us from fear of death to knowledge of our immortality.

Peace, peace, peace.

Enjoy a wonder full day and again thank you for write this all down. and just thanks old man :)

Thanks

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0025bb  No.14148325

File: f1bd8fc39e9c156⋯.jpg (1.59 MB, 2500x1529, 2500:1529, J_K_Rowling.jpg)

File: 8b15bc353e27477⋯.png (2.29 MB, 2529x2297, 2529:2297, J_K_Rowling_is_a_Satanist.png)

File: 747a6ce2765ae03⋯.png (503.5 KB, 700x490, 10:7, manipulating_puppets.png)

File: 066b3fe6fa4343c⋯.jpg (141.01 KB, 1000x600, 5:3, harry_potter_movie_poster.jpg)

>>14141969

(Please read from the start)

Movie 5: Harry Potter series - story

When it comes to the Harry Potter series, it’s way too long to go through in details in this thread. Since it’s not my Main Target, I’m only going to mention some notables that are linked to this thread = bring attention to them along with MY new interpretation of the symbolism in them. Then, I’m going to talk about the MOST important part in the series, related to this thread.

I’m sure loads and loads of anons are already aware of the symbolism in Harry Potter series, mostly the connection to the Bloodlines and all of that stupid cult of (((theirs))). Anons are correct in what they think about this movie, but I’m also going to use the symbolism to show you how it’s linked to what I’m talking about and how (((they))) project everything using Hollywood. This is MY take on this.

I’m going to go randomly at this anons:

Starting with the author = J.K. Rowling. If anons think for split second her lovely, rosy fairy tale like story that she just sat in some café and wrote Harry Potter books or whatever idyllic place she sat in, you are sadly mistaken and still are brainwashed. If anons dig, they will discover that J.K. Rowling is identical in her “role” as Bezos is, Zuckerberg is, Dorsey is etc. None of them genuinely created or founded any of the companies or “products” they claim. They are NOT the incredible, creative geniuses we thought they were but they are all FRONTS for a much deeper, darker agenda where the puppet masters manipulate everything. This has meanings on multiple levels. In other words, this series was DONE on purpose for MANY reasons, including for the BRAINWASHING. Good money cow as well.

Notice the “wings” behind Rowling in the picture I’ve put of her. For the public this is the flying ball of the quidditch game, and it’s called “the snitch” for some reason = as in a person whom tells on someone = doesn’t it reminds us of the god Ea whom “snitched” = told Utnapishtim of the coup plotters plans? Interesting, isn’t it? If we look at this “snitch”, doesn’t it also look strangely as a head with horns? Think of it what you want.

Then, let’s talk about the Title or should I say the name of the great Hero = the Icon of this movie: Harry Potter. It has a meaning, did you know that anons?

“verb

verb: harry; 3rd person present: harries; past tense: harried; past participle: harried; gerund or present participle: harrying

1. persistently carry out attacks on (an enemy or an enemy's territory).

"the raiders then spent three months harrying and burning the area"

2. persistently harass.

"the government is being mercilessly harried by a new lobby"

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0025bb  No.14148345

File: 395278edf7530a6⋯.jpg (225.09 KB, 1600x1204, 400:301, HP_Scar.jpg)

>>14148325

(Please read from the start)

>> Do anons want to have a guess what (((they))) are persistently attacking?

As a boy’s name, Harry has another meaning: Harry as a boy's name is pronounced HARE-ee. It is of Old German origin, and the meaning of Harry is "home ruler".

No need for me to comment, the meaning is very obvious here.

What does Potter mean?

“verb

1. occupy oneself in a desultory but pleasant way.

"I'm quite happy just to potter about by myself here"

2.move or go in a casual, unhurried way.

"I might potter into Nice for the day"

Noun

1. an act or period of occupying oneself in a desultory but pleasant way.

"an afternoon's potter through the rooms and possessions of the rich"

noun

1. a person who makes ceramic ware”

>> So let me get this straight: Potter has 2 general meanings:

1 – To occupy one’s self with aimless thoughts or acts. This is close to daydreaming or fooling around.

2 – It’s a person who makes ceramics by using clay.

If we combine Harry Potter meanings what do we get: Home ruler, Aimless thoughts and acts and a person whom creates ceramics from clay.

Anons….I don’t know about you, but for me, this is close to Satan. I think they are pointing to Satan with the home ruler meaning and how then they are pointing to brainwashing us and giving us = “empty thoughts”…. And isn’t our Heavenly Father the greatest Potter of them all since He took Clay and made the first man from it? Not just in the Bible, but in many myths we hear things of the sort. Are (((they))) here mocking our Heavenly Father or are (((they))) saying that (((their))) god is a creator of life? Well, I know he wished to become like that = imitating our Heavenly Father by trying to create life. But he couldn’t do it, so he started to take what already existed and mix them together and this is how we’ve got those horrible creatures…nowadays Bloodlines have been doing the same in secret labs, mostly mixing animal and human genes.

Next point is the Lightning scar on Harry’s forehead. It’s off to shape a scar like that, right? Well anons guessed it right = it’s a sign symbolizing the Lightning used by the Thunderbirds.

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0025bb  No.14148376

>>14147918

Thank you. I've taken notes of what you posted.

I will be talking about Jesus later, about his identity. For now, let me give you a hint: he's not a JEW.

Wishing you a good Sunday as well. Take care.

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a7373f  No.14153950

File: 0756e84d225955c⋯.jpg (949.16 KB, 2000x2000, 1:1, BannerFlag_Gryffindor_Harr….jpg)

File: b2393091eee66d2⋯.jpg (46.69 KB, 360x450, 4:5, Buckbeak.jpg)

File: 7113230394a5875⋯.png (621.9 KB, 840x859, 840:859, harry_potter_slytherin_log….png)

File: 1d013650bc77817⋯.jpg (96.13 KB, 625x400, 25:16, HP_Basilisk.jpg)

File: 74ed968c86408bb⋯.jpg (672.8 KB, 2043x1527, 681:509, Fawkes_HarryAndFawkesChamb….jpg)

>>14148345

(Please read from the start)

Gryffindor symbol is that of a Lion = Feline, but in the name, we clearly hear the Griffin part. I have been saying for some time that the Griffin is the Royal guards in other words the warriors of the King of kings. But I’m unsure if this is a combined = merged heraldic symbol of 2 clans = Eagle and Lion…or if it’s a squadron from one and another squadron from the second working as a team. In both cases, these represent royalty. According to Rowling, Gryffindors are known for their bravery, daring, nerve, and chivalry = very befitting for the ThunderBirds and Feline warriors alike.

We also have Buckbeak the hippogriff, in the series, which is a derivative from the griffin. The animal is very friendly with Harry. Which doesn’t surprise me one bit, mostly if I combine it to the Gryffindor name, Lion heraldic symbol of the house and the lightning on Harry’s forehead = all of these elements are pointing that Harry is fighting for the GOOD side = he is a Light warrior. It fits perfectly, doesn’t it?

The only oddity is the color RED of the Gryffindor house which we know was the color of the Evil One’s armor but strangely, it’s used for the Gryffindors. I believe this is a mix done on purpose. This color is used a lot by royalty through history; not just any royalty, but the Bloodlines whom were rulers. Some anons are going to say purple is another color used by the Bloodlines to signal (((their))) royal lineage. I would like to ask anons to hold it for now with the color purple. I think (((they))) hijacked the color. I will explain this when I reach it.

On the other side of the aisles we have the Slytherin symbol: the Serpent, reminding us of the Sebetti Serpent and the Horned Serpents. They are known to value: ambition, leadership, self-preservation, cunning and resourcefulness – perfectly fitting with the image projected to us by many Horned Serpent warriors we’ve seen in this thread, worldwide.

It fits perfectly with the Horned Serpent image as being deceitful, cunning, illusionists, resorting to tricks like what we saw with Oz movie, and also to spying like we’ve seen with Nergal; as well as being wicked and causing massacres and famines etc. but mostly, with their thirst for power and to do whatever it takes to have the ultimate power and become kings = rulers.

There is also a giant serpent called the Basilisk in the movie series which had poisonous fangs = reminding me of the poisonous ability I’ve been suspecting the Horned Serpent warriors had; mentioned in the Native American stories and we also know Medusa from Greek mythology has the ability of petrification, just like the Basilisk from Harry Potter.

I do not know why the color green was picked for Slytherin. But I would like to point out that in both House “badges”/“crests” (in fact it’s on all 4 of them) we have the helmet of an armor represented on top. Which, for me, indicates that these are knights = fighters = warriors. I haven’t looked into the Raven or the Badger symbolism, I’m sure it has a meaning and it’s not random. I’m going to skip it and leave it for the curious researcher.

Just a quick mention that there is a Phoenix = bird of fire, in the story and it’s a good bird that helps Harry and heals him when he is injured. Here, the Phoenix represents good. And please, go check etymology of Phoenix before mixing it to Phoenicians, just because the words sound the same. Don’t go thinking I did that with Gryffindor and Buckbeak, the link there is obvious to the naked eye. I will be talking about the Phoenix when I reach it.

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a7373f  No.14153959

File: cdadc723042efaf⋯.jpg (267.75 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, sirius_black_with_Harry_Po….jpg)

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>>14153950

(Please read from the start)

Sirius Black is Harry’s GODFATHER. His name is the oddest there is because his first name is in contradiction with his last name. Sirius reminds us of the Star Sirius. It’s also represented on Space Force logo (page 202). What does Sirius mean: “Sirius (/ˈsɪriəs/) is the brightest star in the night sky. Its name is derived from the Greek word Σείριος (Seirios, lit. 'glowing' or 'scorching'). The star is designated α Canis Majoris, Latinized to Alpha Canis Majoris […].” Those were the first lines from Wikipedia page of Sirius.

What I love the most about the word Sirius is that it truly means: “the ONE that shines the most”, reminding of me the ONE whom carries the Light inside of him like Christ. It’s not the FAKE Light that is carried in a Lamp ^_~

Sirius is also known as being the “dog” star or more like Canis Major = reminding us of the Canine Sebetti, the one I’m calling now the Wolf Clan, because I think they are closer to wolves than to dogs. This is why Sirius Black transforms into a big “black” dog in the story.

So you see anons, when I combine the meaning of the first name and the last name = Black, of this story’s character, the names are on opposite sides of one another as in black = darkness is on the opposite side of the Light = the ONE that shines the most. Strangely, this also reminds me of the opposite duality concept we’ve seen before in this thread. Last idea about Sirius Black: anyone interested in his tattoos? Since everything has a meaning in this story, I bet the tattoos also have some type of symbolic meaning.

Bellatrix Lestrange is the cousin of Sirius Black, and the most faithful “follower” of the “Dark Lord” = Voldemort. She is a crazy cracked nut, extremely nasty, mean and arrogant in the story. But what does her name mean?

Her last name…I don’t know why, but I see it as “ Le Strange” = “The Strange”. I think this fits her perfectly because she is a super strange person, even a super deranged person.

Bellatrix is a star part of the Orion constellation – from Wikipedia: “Bellatrix /bɛˈleɪtrɪks/, designation γ Orionis (Latinized to Gamma Orionis, abbreviated to Gamma Ori, γ Ori), is the third-brightest star in the constellation of Orion, 5° west of the red supergiant Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis). With a slightly variable magnitude of around 1.6, it is about the 25th-brightest star in the night sky. […]The traditional name Bellatrix is from the Latin bellātrix "female warrior"; […]”

“Etymology and cultural significance

Bellatrix was also called the Amazon Star, which Richard Hinckley Allen proposed came from a loose translation of the Arabic name Al Najīd, the Conqueror. A c.1275 Arabic celestial globe records the name as "the lion".Bellatrix is one of the four navigational stars in Orion that are used for celestial navigation.”

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a7373f  No.14153984

File: f619b510d894738⋯.png (54.21 KB, 860x787, 860:787, triangle_symbol_parallel_s….png)

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>>14153959

(Pleaser read from the start)

“In the 17th century catalogue of stars in the Calendarium of Al Achsasi al Mouakket, this star was designated Menkib al Jauza al Aisr, which was translated into Latin as Humerus Sinister Gigantis.

The Wardaman people of northern Australia know Bellatrix as Banjan, the sparkling pigment used in ceremonies conducted by Rigel the Red Kangaroo Leader in a songline when Orion is high in the sky. The other stars of Orion are his ceremonial tools and entourage. Betelgeuse is Ya-jungin "Owl Eyes Flicking", watching the ceremonies.

To the Inuit, the appearance of Betelgeuse and Bellatrix high in the southern sky after sunset marked the beginning of spring and lengthening days in late February and early March. The two stars were known as Akuttujuuk "those (two) placed far apart", referring to the distance between them, mainly to people from North Baffin Island and Melville Peninsula.”

>> This is very clear, no need for me to explain.

The deathly hallows remind me of the “auras”, “wonders” or “splendors” we’ve already seen in this thread before. They point out in the story to amazing, marvelous and incredible “items”, out of normal standards….which remind me of the “special weapons” used by the Sebetti, as seen on the bronze Plaque from Hell. There is no need for me to comment about how the deathly hallows are depicted = their symbol – it’s very clear to those whom are awake. And the story about the 3 brother…well….the most notable is how one of them tried to cheat death by using the cloak of invisibility = the Bloodlines trying to live forever, at least for the longest time possible = trying to avoid death.

There is a mirror in the first volume in the story of Harry Potter where it shows him what he wants the most. I’ve been wondering if this is not a derivative of the Looking Glass?! What do you think anons? In the first movie, that mirror is featured looking like some type of door, doesn’t it?

This made me remember another door in the story, which “killed” or should I say “took the soul” of Sirius Black. I’m not sure of the name, but I think that door is located in a place called the Death Chamber – again, I’m not sure of the name. This “door” looks like a gate….and….I keep on wondering: is death a gate that takes us from the physical realm to the spiritual realm? Or is this “door” what we call the Stargate? Loads to think about here.

Harry has a Patronus –made by advanced magic – made of LIGHT that acts as a shield against the Dementors = Dark shadowy creatures whom suck = feed upon – hope, happiness and the desire to survive.

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a7373f  No.14154008

File: c94b8593c790285⋯.jpg (133.17 KB, 736x960, 23:30, DementorConceptArt.jpg)

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>>14153984

(Please read from the start)

Harry Patronus is very special: Apart it’s the same as his dad’s,what’s special about it is that it’s a STAG. We’ve seen the STAG with Antlers being directly connected to the Rothschilds, with the stupid ball (page 759) and to the Horned Serpent & Sisiutl from the Native American myths and legends. Both of them = Rothschilds and Horned Serpent + Sisiutl are known to be connected to the Evil One.

Also there is an idea behind the Patronus in general that I’ve been talking about in this thread = the Light of the Patronus pushes away the Darkness, including the Dementors. Just like the Light of our Heavenly Father, and Christ, pushes away the Darkness of the Evil One and his demons.

Which brings me to the word: Dementors. I know I shouldn’t be doing this but darn it, here, it’s very close for the ear to the word Demon isn’t it? I know, I know…I shouldn’t be doing this but it’s very close.

And what is closer is the way these “creatures” are presented to us in the movie. Do you remember what I told you we, all 3 of us, witnessed that day anons? About those things that came out of the Dark, which were screaming and had arms and hands and were crawling on the walls. I still don’t know what they are made of….it’s like vapor or liquid….just like the type of substance the Dementors are made of. It’s very close. And when that high ranking demon, that commander, tried to grab the young man, we saw his hand. I’ve put a visual for anons, and I say it’s pretty close to this, including the fingernails and skin color.

Anons should also compare this to Sarafine’s true form from the movie Beautiful Creatures (page 1 079) and compare it as well to the true form of Valac from the movie The Conjuring 2 (page 1 082). This is very hard to explain, very hard to pin point and find the right word to describe what the substance these demons are made of is. Even when you look at the movies I’ve pointed to anons, you will notice even (((they))) are unsure what this substance really is. (((They))) are unable to pin point what it really is, this is why we see tiny “variants” of it from one movie to another. It’s an undetermined substance that even (((they))) cannot replicate in movie, it’s true form or nature.

Anons will ask: so why didn’t (((they))) take “samples” of it to study it like what (((they))) do to everything else? Well…you see, I don’t know how or why, but I do know if anyone = any human touches this substance, then it takes over you and integrates you to it. The moment any human touches this thing, either directly or indirectly (through an object), this substance sucks you in and makes you a part of it = you become a part of it and the YOU = the individual will vanish. So we knew, we gotta stay away from it and never get in contact with it, ever, not even out of curiosity….because this time, curiosity will kill the cat.

Strangely, there is also this villain from Spiderman, called Venom. In this version, as seen in last 2 pictures of this page, we can clearly see Venom is also made of that same dark substance = represents Evil. Once it gets a hold of you, it will not let go and it will “swallow” you and make you a part of it. As you can see dear readers, even (((they))) are unable to tell what this substance is really made of.

Everything we’ve seen about the Dementors and these “dark creatures” or demons, including the dark substance, in Hollywood movies is pure proof (((they))) made contact with such “entities”. Why am I saying this? Because (((they))) know exactly how these creatures look like and how they behave. If I haven’t seen them with my own eyes, I would have never believed they could be real and be the way we see them in the movies. The only way (((they))) know how these creatures look like is for (((them))) to have seen them or got in contact with them.

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8527c2  No.14156874

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>>14153959

Fig 1; a ᚨ ansuz (rune) "god" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansuz_(rune)

Fig 2; n ᚾ naudiz (rune) "need" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudiz

Fig 3; z ᛉ algiz "elk" (or "protection, defence"[13]) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiz

Fig 4; ᛦ northumbrian http://www.therunesite.com/northumbrian-runes-rune-meanings/

Fig 5; gar rune symbols these could also be fig 6 same symbols ?

Fig 6; Odin's spear rune

Fig 7; ᚼ Haglaz rune, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haglaz

or it can be Jeran, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%93ran

Fig 8; Amalgamation alchemy symbol

Fig 9; some type of Enochian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian dont know is thios is total misplaced

Fig 10; More alchemy symbols

I red on some page and they say it could be like, alchemy planet symbols as jupiter, steel or gold symbols.

a lot to further research if needed.

Hope i could help a bit, have a great day.

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2e8bbd  No.14160039

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>>14154008

(Please read from the start)

The last trait to talk about when it comes to the Dementors is their ability to suck or feed on the happiness and good thoughts of people. But when you look at the footage of the movie, it gives the viewer the thought that a person’s SOUL is being sucked out of them by the Dementors. This is identical to what is said demons do.To think we have a visual of the phenomena in a movie gives me the creeps.

Next is Voldemort: I believe he is the projected image of the Evil One = the one whom started to coup and corrupted the female Sebetti, turning her into the Evil Lady. We see Voldemort represented with the facial features of a serpent and he is known for his ability to communicate with serpents and in turn, the snakes obey him. He comes from a “noble” lineage, with a high “blood purity” = he behaves has if he had “ROYAL” blood in him – ancestral ring from his mother side of the family.

Voldemort wasn’t evil nor bad at first, but he became arrogant and terribly obsessed with being the most powerful as well as obtaining immortality; that’s why he “split” his soul by committing horrible acts = like murder and he created the horcruxes as vessels to put his soul in = carriers for his soul = gaining immortality. But by doing so, he lost his human features = humanity and turned into the face we see him in.

His thirst for power along with huge complex about the purity of his blood made him create a “dark army” of followers = death eaters and he plotted to take over the ministry of magic, by tricks, by using spies and plants and at the end, he uses force. As long as he was “weak” = with a weak physical form, he used tricks and plotted in the dark, but when he regained his physical form, he thought the most powerful wand = most powerful weapon to destroy the One he is the most afraid of. He was also planning to use his most powerful weapon to make his big dream of ruling over the world and killing and/or enslaving all humans, wizards and other creatures. It’s incredible how this is identical to what the Bloodlines want to do and were planning for humanity. And it’s incredible how Voldemort sought the most powerful wand for him to use, just like how I’ve been repeating that the Horned Serpent warriors STOLE the technology of the other armors and integrated it to theirs in order to have combat superiority when fighting against the other clans.

The name given to his followers = death eaters is highly symbolic and it fits perfectly well to the Bloodline families and how we know (((they))) are cannibals and practice horrors as human sacrifice among other stuff.

After trying to kill Harry as a toddler, Voldemort was struck by his own magic because of a very ancient sort of magic, kinda forgotten by the wizarding world = LOVE….precisely the love of a mother for her child. It was Lily Potter that used herself as a shield to save Harry that night, which in turn ignited the ancient magic and it back fired on Voldemort. But since he had created horcruxes, only his physical body was destroyed, while he remained in his “spiritual” form.

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2e8bbd  No.14160064

File: 8d17d17092be16e⋯.jpg (34.67 KB, 660x374, 30:17, kunis_franco_oz_cover_16_9.jpg)

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>>14160039

(Please read from the start)

The idea behind Lily Potter shielding her son means she chose to protect her son, which echoes well with Isis trying to protect baby Horus after the death of Osiris from the wrath of Seth and his followers. It also fits perfectly well with the image projected by Neith/Isis as being the Queen of queens whom stepped in and derailed the plans of the Evil One onto killing the heir of the King of kings in order to take the throne. She was a mother protecting her son and a queen doing her duty as a sovereign.

And from the looks of it, it seems the outcome of BOTH as in what happened to the Evil One and what happened to Voldemort is the same = both of them had their physical form destroyed, but only remained in the Spiritual form. We know this is what happened to Satan after his revolt in Heaven and we’ve seen this also happening to the Earl in Interstella 5555 (page 584 – 14th point) and to the Lord of Darkness in the movie Legend (1985)–where at the end, his physical forms is vanquished by the Light but his Evil Spirit remains (starting page 1 037). The same idea is projected by Oz when he lost “supposedly” his physical body and appeared as smoke.

Amazingly, we have 2 females named Lili/Lily in both movie = Harry Potter and Legend (1985). In the later movie, just like Voldemort, Lili wasn’t evil at first, also just like Theodora (wearing RED) in Oz, she was sweet and innocent and pure of heart. But they all changed, the innocent child that was Voldemort was turned, just like Theodora, just like Lili in Legend, just like Seth (= this one fought for Ra, helped him at first, then he turned around and killed Osiris, meaning he wasn’t Evil at first) and just like Satan, he wasn’t bad at first, but then iniquity was found in him – I’ve talked about this in page 923. We can add to the list Tron from Tron Legacy, where Clu “turned” him and made him Rinzler (page 576). And it happens to be that everyone I mentioned is somehow depicted or connected to the color RED, most anyway. I can go on and on and find much more examples for anons, but I think the reader gets the idea now.

So what happens after Voldemort lost his physical form and only remained in his spiritual shape? He tried MANY times to regain his body using various methods and means, like processing one of the teachers at Harry’s school and controlling his body…we know demons and evil spirits can do that to humans and they use them to manipulate them and make them do stuff.

In Harry Potter, Voldemort tried to get his hands at first = as a first option on something called the Philosopher Stone, which is also known as the Elixir of Life – reminds me of Adrenochrome and how it’s considered as the Elixir of Life and he Fountain of Youth by the Bloodlines and (((their))) followers. So in other words the Philosopher’s Stone in Harry Potter is a symbolic representation to Adrenochrome and how (((they))) MUST consume Blood in order to survive.

And this practice existed IN SECRET from way before the Cataclysm occurred. This is tied to the GENETIC ILLNESS of the Evil One – remember the Jackal from the Dogon (page 211)? And how Amma was “forced” to sacrifice one of the Nommos in order to restore balance to the universe? And how that “sacrificed” Nommo was “cut to many pieces” and scattered through the universe (page 215)? Everything clearly hints that the illness of the Jackal is something he was BORN with and it COULDN’T BE CURED or TREATED or HEALED - Not even if the healing beds were used (beds mentioned in page 207 – 10th point).

This “ILLNESS” was NOT DETECTED at first. It didn’t show up at first, as I’ve just given many examples through Hollywood movies and the Jackal from the Dogon and Seth from Ancient Egypt….and of course, the cherry on top of the cake is none other than Satan himself = he was one of our Heavenly Father’s angels at first, but then…..in all of the stories….something happened… and they all started to commit horrible things, including cannibalism and other horrors = they turned Evil.

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386908  No.14160120

>>14156874

Thank you very much. This might help me understand a few things later on. I'm taking notes ^_^

I would also like to get the attention of everyone reading to Mr. Dan Scavino Telegram account. Just scroll up to older post, like for the last 5 to 7 days…I don't remember when exactly. He's been talking a lot about the LIGHT. Seems you are entering the phase of: "from Dark to Light". This is going on in parallel with loads of rumors swirling around social media that Tesla electricity system is going to installed soon. It sure is interesting.

Have a nice day anon and thank you once more.

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cfd600  No.14161143

File: ef84a157fcec122⋯.jpg (25.13 KB, 768x425, 768:425, harry_potter_cette_when_vo….jpg)

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>>14160064

(Please read from the start)

But we have more clues coming from the Dogon people as to what happened: in page 216, we took a look into Ogo; this is what was written in the introduction in the link about Ogo: “One of the creations of Amma, and a rebel of horribleness. We must warn you that the following story includes sacrifice, stolen semen, fellatio, biting the end off a very private part, circumcision, mutilation and practices so unsavory it would be enough to put a cannibal off his food.”

>> Sounds familiar anons? It’s the perfect projection of Satan, isn’t it? And why Jews practice circumcision = it’s all started with the Evil One. Back then I tried to find more because I wanted to know the full story of what Ogo did, but unfortunately I couldn’t. I hope someone reading will lend a hand and help uncover what this Ogo did in details.

Then look at what Ogo did – from the same page: “A rampant reptilian creaure, he escaped from Amma’s primordial cosmic egg and filched the whole yolk. Not because he was hungry, but because he thought his twin sister and rival Yasigi was hiding inside. She wasn’t; Amma had placed her in the care of the Nommo Twins.”

>> Isn’t this referring to kidnapping a woman anons? So according to the Dogon people, Ogo was the Serpent Sebetti. He tried to kidnap his own SISTER. Why would a man want to kidnap his own sister? They are saying she was his rival? So if anons continue reading page 216 – Ogo finally mated with the “yolk” of the “egg” and he decided to create his own world – just like Satan – but for some reason, the world created by Ogo was “dry” = as in infertile – reminding of Seth.

And here comes the big BOMB = in order to save the world from Ogo’s INCESTUOUS BEHAVIOR Amma had to sacrifice one of the Nommos. Ogo tried an incestuous union with Mother Earth which brought impurity and barrenness to the world. Amma finally dealt with him by throwing him DOWN into the dry land, turning him into the FOX of TRICKERY.

So now we know that the Evil One practiced INCEST as well. But with whom precisely, the information I got so far is NOT that clear. Did he try to have sex with his twin sister or with his mother? We need to gather more information about what happened anons…for now take notes, make connection, reread everything and check things out yourselves.

Since Voldemort failed to resurrect using the Philosopher Stone a.k.a. Andrenochrome, he conceived another plan. He used some old spells and tricks, to take pieces from his father’s body, combine it with his enemy’s blood along with flesh from his “servant” and other hocus pocus stuff of the sort. As we see in the first picture I’ve attached in this movie, Voldemort has the frail small body before that ritual, and after the ritual, he regained his full body with all of its strength and magical power.

There is a gap here in the storyline of Rowling as in she doesn’t explain how Voldemort regained physical form, even if it was a frail one: how did he get from the “smoke” form into that physical one his servant is holding before the ritual took place.

Regardless, it’s clear here, Rowling is projecting what the Bloodlines have been trying to do for many, many centuries = ever since (((they))) got out of the Ark = rebirth of the Evil One = giving him his physical body back = some call it bringing the Anti-Christ.

The most important question in all of this is WHY? Why was Voldemort so obsessed with Harry and why did he choose to attack Harry that night and not Neville Longbottom? Why he sent Bellatrix Lestrange to eliminate Neville? Rowling provides us with the answer: because he thought Harry was a bigger threat than Neville = because he thought Harry was the ONE the prophecy talked about.

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8361fb  No.14161246

File: 9959e08806c5eae⋯.jpg (113.15 KB, 1155x771, 385:257, Sybill_Trelawney.jpg)

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>>14161143

(Please read from the start)

Ah! So we have a prophecy in the movie ^_^ and it’s what started all of this and why Voldemort is behaving this way towards Harry. The prophecy is the STARTING POINT of everything. In the story we gradually discover everything related to this prophecy as we go along with the chapters.

It was made by a seer called Sybill Trelawney, which later on became a professor at the school Harry attended. She was brought in by the headmaster himself after he discovered she made a prophecy. We found out much later on that it was Severus Snape, a death eater whom was in love with Lily Potter which betrayed Voldemort and switched side = spying for Dumbledore. It’s identical to the situation with Ea in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Also, we were tricked for the entire length of the story to think that Snape was a villain and that he hated Harry. But when you look closely, both Snape and Dumbledore played the role of MENTOR, teacher and guide for Harry. But they kinda did the good cop/ bad cop thingy. In the end, Harry understood that and it’s the reason why he named one of his sons after both of his mentors/ teachers.

It’s because of the spying that Snape did that Dumbledore got a lot of information on what was going on with Voldemort. But Harry didn’t know what the prophecy was about; I mean what was in it. So he went to some type of “hall of records” where there is a copy of the prophecies kept in there. Reminds me of what is supposedly under the Sphinx in Giza = a possible hall of records.

Anyway, Harry finally hears the prophecy: anons can read it in the last picture I’ve attached to this page: so this prophecy talks about a child to be born under a specific date = time = number 7. This child will be the son of a couple whom defied Voldemort 3 times already; which insinuates that the parents of this child are fighters = warriors fighting against Voldemort. It’s going to be Voldemort himself whom will “mark” the child as in leave him with a scar = lightning scar in this case. This child will be the equal of Voldemort as in his “opponent” or should I say his challenger; as in this child will fight him = black knight versus white knight = balance of forces.

The power of good or bad, cannot kill the other themselves but they can each kill their ownselves as in “self-destruct”. But in the same time they cannot co-exist as they are on opposite side of existence. In other words, for Harry to eliminate Voldemort, he must let Voldemort destroy his ownself = which ends up in the movie as Harry having a horcrux in him and he lets Voldemort kill him in order to destroy that piece of Voldemort soul.

When we look closely to this prophecy, it doesn’t tell whom the child is: if he is a child of the Light or a child of the Darkness. It’s just guess work Voldemort did and it’s because of his own assumptions that he thought he can control the situation and he tried to kill Harry himself, while sending his lieutenant = Bellatrix to kill Neville. What Voldemort didn’t expect was his plans backfiring on him, starting with how his killing spell ricocheted from Lily Potter onto him.

In other words anons, the Bloodlines know of the prophecy but know zit about whom the child of the prophecy is and what his choices are going to be. (((They))) simply assumed if (((they))) can have him as one of (((them))), then (((they))) win and that child will open the portal and let the spirit of the Evil One come to this realm and regain his physical body; just like how Voldemort did at the cemetery.

See how the interpretation of the prophecy is changing from one movie to the other. Sometimes we are told the child picks the dark side, sometimes were told he stays neutral and sometimes we are told the child fights the Dark Lord. In other words, (((they))) don’t know how it’s going to be at the end, and (((they))) have been doing guess work when it comes to the prophecy.

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dc95ca  No.14166692

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>>14161246

(Please read from the start)

Movie 6: Divergent/Insurgent

This is the next movie I’m going to check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergent_(film)

“Divergent is a 2014 American social science fiction action film directed by Neil Burger, based on the 2011 novel of the same name by Veronica Roth. The film is the first installment in The Divergent Series and was produced by Lucy Fisher, Pouya Shahbazian, and Douglas Wick, with a screenplay by Evan Daugherty and Vanessa Taylor. It stars Shailene Woodley, Theo James, Ashley Judd, Jai Courtney, Ray Stevenson, Zoë Kravitz, Miles Teller, Tony Goldwyn, Ansel Elgort, Maggie Q, and Kate Winslet.The story takes place in a dystopian and post-apocalyptic Chicago where people are divided into distinct factions based on human virtues. Beatrice Prior is warned that she is Divergent and thus will never fit into any one of the factions. She soon learns that a sinister plot is brewing in the seemingly perfect society.

[…]

A sequel, Insurgent, was released on March 20, 2015, in the United States and other countries.

Plot

In the futuristic city of dystopian Chicago, society is divided into five factions: Abnegation (the selfless), Amity (the peaceful), Candor (the honest), Dauntless (the brave), and Erudite (the intellectual). The remaining population are the Factionless, who have no status or privilege in this society. When children reach the age of 16, they undergo a serum-induced psychological aptitude test which indicates their best-suited faction, but they are allowed to choose any faction as their permanent group at the subsequent Choosing Ceremony.”

>> We are told the futuristic society of Chicago (in this movie) was divided into 5 factions as in 5 groups…not exactly 5 clans or tribes…but something close to it. Look at the colors and symbols of each faction; mostly the 2 on the lower row. The EYE is BLUE, while the FIRE is RED. Why is the Eye always blue? What’s so special about the BLUE EYE? Think about this for now. Also we now know that Red is the color of the Evil One and he used in some type of weapon that shoots fire. What’s the meaning of dauntless? Does this also remind you of Satan and how he rebelled, refused to “submit”?

Now here, there is a wrong information provided…we don’t have 5 factions, but 6; why omit the factionless? We have the 5 usual factions and the factionless can be considered a group on their own. And what do you think about how the people are put into different categories in this movie? Doesn’t it remind you what (((they))) have been trying to do to us?

And what about this “serum”;sounds like a mind control device of some sort, isn’t it? A biological type of mind control device.

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dc95ca  No.14166715

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>>14166692

(Please read from the start)

“Beatrice Prior (Shailene Woodley) was born into Abnegation, which runs the government. Her father, Andrew Prior (Tony Goldwyn), serves on the ruling council along with the head of Abnegation, Marcus Eaton (Ray Stevenson). Beatrice takes her test with a Dauntless woman, Tori Wu (Maggie Q), as her proctor. Her results show equal attributes of multiple factions, which means that she is Divergent. Her divergence includes Abnegation, Erudite, and Dauntless. Tori records her results as Abnegation, warns her to keep the true result a secret, and says that because Divergents can think independently and are aware of any serums injected into them, the government cannot control them and considers them to be threats to the existing social order.”

>> So Beatrice is born DIFFERENT and her difference didn’t show up when she was young, only when she grew up and took the test. I do not need to explain the last sentence, right? It’s very obvious. And to think this is a book for teens and young adults. Then people ask how the youngsters are all brainwashed into becoming communists? How should I interpret Beatrice keeping her TRUE self a secret? Because you see, both the good and the bad side are doing it.

Take a look at the stadium from the Choosing Ceremony: isn’t it weird each faction sits in its own section and wear the same color? Reminds me of communism actually.

Previously I’ve said we have 6 factions, not 5….and now…. If I add the Divergent isn’t the total 7 factions = 7 groups? Amazingly it’s like the Sebetti clans. I’m sure it’s a coincidence! I want to draw attention that the Divergents in the movie are a minority.

“The next day, at the Choosing Ceremony, Beatrice's brother Caleb (Ansel Elgort) chooses Erudite, and after some hesitation, Beatrice chooses Dauntless. After the ceremony, Beatrice meets Christina (Zoë Kravitz), Al (Christian Madsen), and Will (Ben Lloyd-Hughes), three other initiates from other factions who also chose Dauntless. Christina and Al are from Candor, and Will is from Erudite. The initiates' commitment and fearlessness are immediately tested, and Eric Coulter (Jai Courtney), a brutal Dauntless leader, makes it clear that anyone not meeting the high expectations of Dauntless will be expelled from the faction to become Factionless. Beatrice is the first to volunteer for a leap of faith from a tall building into a dark hole and lands into a net. When Four (Theo James), a transfer initiates' instructor, asks her name, she decides to shorten it to "Tris" so she can leave her earlier identity behind.

Tris initially struggles in Dauntless training and ranks far below the cutoff after the first evaluation, but with Four's help, she slowly improves. After Eric matches her against her nemesis, Candor transfer Peter Hayes (Miles Teller), in a fight, Tris is soundly defeated and ends up in the infirmary. When she discovers that she will miss the most important test, Capture The Flag, she leaves the infirmary, joins the other initiates, secures her team's victory, and makes the final cut. In the next phase of training, the initiates are subject to psychological simulations in which they face their worst fears. Tris's divergence allows her to excel at the tests, which she solves by unusual ways, but Four warns her to hide her abilities and to solve the challenges as a normal Dauntless would, as Divergents can also manipulate tests and serums. Tris visits Caleb, who tells her that Erudite is planning to overthrow Abnegation and become the ruling faction. On her return to Dauntless headquarters, Tris is attacked by Al, Peter, and Drew before she is rescued by Four. The next day, Al pleads with Tris for her forgiveness but she refuses and calls him a coward. He later kills himself by jumping into "The Chasm," rather than live with the shame.”

>> The Wheel is like the EYE of London.

In this movie as well, there a COUP being plotted by 2 factions = dauntless and erudite, working hand in hand to overthrow the ruling faction = abnegation. Isn’t this a projection of the coup from along ago? = when the King of kings whom was a selfless person was overthrown and killed but 2 evil plotters out of the 7 clans. The plotters were the EYE = Erudite, female leader, and the Fire = Dauntless, male leader.

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8b280e  No.14173308

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>>14166715

(Please read from the start)

Beatrice has the “power” to “BE AWAKE” when she was in psychological simulation. Do you understand the depths of what this means anons? As in she is the type of person whom is AWAKE INSIDE of the MATRIX. She can change the illusion as she saw it = finding the way out. She says: “This is not real” as in she is aware this is all an illusion so she can find a way out. This is an extremely rare gift. Guess whom has this ability anons? Whom has the ability to change the illusion he can see? ^_~ Yes, the young man has abilities and you already know 2 of them: changing FATE by making a choice and the ability for him to change the illusion, change things in it.

Watch the clip I’ve attached to this page very carefully and observe how Tris says: “this isn’t real”. And then, at the end of the clip, someone betrays her and wants to get rid of her. Isn’t this some sort of jealousy, fear and betrayal towards her?

“To prepare her for the final test, Four takes Tris into his own fear simulations in which she learns that his real name is Tobias Eaton, the son of Marcus Eaton, who used to beat him as a child. After the simulation, they kiss. Tris then passes her test and is officially initiated into Dauntless. The rest of the Dauntless are injected with a serum supplied by Erudite, which is supposedly for tracking but actually for mind control. The next morning, the Dauntless prepare to execute Abnegations under orders of the Erudites. As Divergents are unaffected by the new serum, Tris must blend in to avoid suspicion. She finds Four, who reveals himself as a Divergent. When the Dauntless move to raid Abnegation, Tris and Four separate from the group and attempt to locate Tris's parents, but Eric realizes that Four is not under control and captures both of them. Four is taken into custody, and Tris is ordered to be executed. Her mother, Natalie (Ashley Judd), appears and saves her but is shot and killed as they try to escape.”

>> Notables:

1 – The brain washing serum. No need to explain what this is.

2 – The ones AWAKE = the Divergents, cannot be controlled by the Matrix.

3 – Arbitrary executions of those whom are deemed unwanted or dangerous to the plan plotters taking control = sounds familiar?!

4 – Natalie, Tris’ Mother, is a fighter. She hides whom she really was as well as her abilities at first and tries to live a peaceful life. But when she has to save her own child, she turns into the ancient warrior she always was. This is the picture projected by Neith/Isis/Gebal of Gebal. But here, it’s the mother whom sacrifices herself to save her daughter, not the father.

“Tris finds her father in hiding with Caleb, Marcus, and several Abnegation members. The group sneaks into Dauntless headquarters, where Tris encounters Peter and forces him to lead them to Erudite's control center. Her father sacrifices himself in a shootout, and Tris goes in alone to find Four, who is now under stronger mind control, which is designed for Divergents, and attacks her. Using her knowledge of his fears, she manages to wake him from the mind control, and both enter the central control room, where the Erudite leader Jeanine (Kate Winslet) is about to have the Dauntless army execute the entire Abnegation faction. Tris uses a sample of the mind control serum on her to force her to cancel the program. The group escapes the compound and boards a train out of the complex.

[…]”

>> So the other parent dies later on. I guess this is expected. After Four is “captured”, she releases him from the mind control. Interesting!?

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8b280e  No.14173336

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>>14173308

(Please read from the start)

I’m going to check the sequel as well, because there is new information in it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divergent_Series:_Insurgent

“The Divergent Series: Insurgent (simply known as Insurgent) is a 2015 American dystopian science fiction action film directed by Robert Schwentke, based on the 2012 novel Insurgent, the second book in the Divergent trilogy by Veronica Roth. It is the sequel to the 2014 film Divergent and the second installment in The Divergent Series, produced by Lucy Fisher, Pouya Shabazian and Douglas Wick, with a screenplay by Brian Duffield, Akiva Goldsman and Mark Bomback. Schwentke took over from Neil Burger as director, with Burger serving as the executive producer of the film. Along with the first film's returning cast, led by Shailene Woodley and Theo James, the sequel features supporting actors Octavia Spencer, Naomi Watts, Suki Waterhouse, Rosa Salazar, Daniel Dae Kim, Jonny Weston, Emjay Anthony, and Keiynan Lonsdale.

The plot of Insurgent takes place five days after the previous installment and continues to follow Dauntless soldier Tris Prior; Tris and Four, her Dauntless instructor, are on the run after evading a coup from Erudite faction leader Jeanine and the rest of her faction. The faction system in post-apocalyptic Chicago is crumbling, and everyone is desperate for power — and answers. Filming began on May 27, 2014, in Atlanta, Georgia, before concluding on September 6, 2014.

[…]

A sequel, Allegiant, was released on March 18, 2016.”

>> So Four is her lover/”instructor” as in….her teacher…interesting how this notion keeps on popping up. I do like the sound of the words “post-apocalyptic”. Doesn’t this remind anons of the HUGE Cataclysm that occurred and we’ve been talking about it in this thread?

“Plot

Five days after the assault on the Abnegation faction by the Erudite leader Jeanine (Kate Winslet) and her mind-controlled Dauntless soldiers, Jeanine has declared martial law and that the Divergents and their allies are the enemy. Among the Abnegation wreckage, the Dauntless leaders Max (Mekhi Phifer) and Eric (Jai Courtney) recover a box with all five faction symbols on its sides. Jeanine presumes that it contains data from the city's founders and the means to end the Divergence problem. As only Divergents can open the box, she orders all Divergents to be captured.”

>> We’ve seen “similar” boxes before (page 207) in this thread, but they were more “cube” shaped than rectangle shaped like this one. I don’t know what this “box” thing really means but I did notice 3 notable characteristics of the box has about it that keep on reoccurring in each movie:

1 – It is believed to contain some “great forgotten knowledge or power”: amazingly knowledge is power.

2 – These boxes all seem to have this machine (like some sort of computer or a huge microship) like function or energy source function = regardless of which is it, it means it works with electricity.

3 – These boxes are “tricky” and cannot be handled or opened just by anyone = it’s as if it needs a special key or a special someone/trigger to open. Reminds me of Tao’s jar from the Mysterious Cities of Gold cartoon.

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d8b9b4  No.14181708

>>14173336

(Please read from the start)

Just look at how Jeanine is behaving and how her “coup” is taking place. It seems all like a déjà vue, isn’s it anons?

“The 17-year-old Divergent Tris (Shailene Woodley); her Divergent boyfriend, Four (Theo James), her Erudite brother Caleb (Ansel Elgort); and the Dauntless troublemaker Peter (Miles Teller) hide within the Amity compound, lead by Johanna (Octavia Spencer). Eric leads a Dauntless crew to test all the occupants for Divergence. Peter discloses the group's location as the others escape and board a train headed into Factionless territory. Four reveals to the Factionless that his real name is Tobias Eaton, the son of the Factionless leader Evelyn (Naomi Watts), whom he still resents for leaving him with his abusive father, Marcus. At the Factionless hideout, Evelyn suggests that Dauntless and Factionless unite against Erudite, but Four declines. The next morning, the three leave for Candor to meet up with the remaining Dauntless who were given shelter there, including Tori (Maggie Q) and Tris's best friend, Christina (Zoë Kravitz). During the trek, a disheartened Caleb splits from the group. Upon arrival, Tris and Four are arrested and brought before Candor leader Jack Kang (Daniel Dae Kim), who intends to deliver them to Jeanine. However, Four pleads for a trial with the use of Candor's truth serum. The serum reveals the real events, and they are absolved, but Tris tearfully admits killing Christina's lover, Will, which angers Christina.

The Dauntless who have sided with Jeanine attack Candor, and many Candor members are shot with metal disks. Max and Eric capture Tris and discover that she has a Divergent reading of 100%, making her the perfect subject to open the box. Four arrives to save Tris and executes Eric for his crimes. Meanwhile, Jeanine, frustrated that none of the Divergent subjects has survived the simulations required to open the box, is approached by Peter, who suggests the best way to get to Tris is by exploiting her selfless Abnegation upbringing.”

>> So Jeanine captures the other Divergents but none, apart Tris, reach the 100% capacity in Divergent. What does this really mean anons? I think this is a projection of what the Bloodlines are doing with the Blood purity issue: (((they))) keep the blood as pure as possible in order to be able to open the Stargate = same concept with Tris having a 100% Divergent in her – she is the purest form of Divergent, that’s why she is the most likely candidate to open the box.

This also denotes there are MANY people out there with that “purity” in their blood, but the percentage is different from one person to another. I mean it could be different between the Roths and the Rocks of 1 or 2 % points in blood purity. I strongly believe that what I call the Merovingian Bloodline = the 13th family = the family descending from the Evil Couple = their offspring has the MOST percentage of blood purity. And (((they))) are obsessed with this concept of blood purity, we all know that. What I’ve written in this paragraph is highly important and I will come back to talk about this later on. There are more pieces I need to gather first. For now, take notes about the different percentages of blood purity and how there are MANY out there = MANY people out there with different levels of blood purity, all depending on the percentage they have in it.

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d8b9b4  No.14181734

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>>14181708

(Please read from the start)

This idea is not new for anons, not just from the Bloodlines but we’ve also seen it in the Movie Saga of Star Wars. I think we can call it the Force. We’ve heard many times in the Saga the actors saying that the Force is strong or weak in this or that person; as in the percentage, the level, the amount of the Force is high, medium or low in a person. They all have the Force within them, but some, have it MORE in them than others. It’s the same idea with the Bloodlines and in Insurgent movie = percentage of the blood purity containing something called the Force.

“Back at the Factionless base, Four reluctantly agrees with Evelyn that war is inevitable. Jeanine activates the disks, which are a mind control device that causes Christina and her friends Marlene and Hector to walk robotically towards a ledge and to ask for Tris's surrender. Tris and Tori manage to grab Christina and Hector in time, but Marlene plunges to her death. Overcome by guilt, Tris decides to turn in herself to Jeanine.”

“At the Erudite headquarters, Tris threatens to kill herself, rather than comply, but she is stopped by the presence of Caleb, who is fully recommitted to Erudite. Tris agrees to undergo the trials if the suicides cease. Under Jeanine, Caleb, and Peter's watch, Tris overcomes the first four simulations before she requires rest. The next day, after discovering that Four was captured while he tried to rescue her, she fails the Amity trial, and her vital signs cease, shocking Jeanine. Peter takes her body to Four, reveals he faked her death, and assists Four in overpowering the guards. Tris is now determined to unveil the box's message and so with Peter's help, they return to the simulation room, and she successfully opens the box in front of everyone. A hologram explains that the walled city and the faction system were part of an experiment, with the Divergents as its ultimate goal. The world is waiting outside for them to rejoin it. Realizing that she has lost all of her power, Jeanine orders the box to be buried and Four and Tris to be executed. However, the Factionless break into the room, incapacitate Max, and rescue the pair. Jeanine and Caleb are arrested and the message is broadcast to the entire city. Hailed as a hero, Tris is eager to explore the outside world. In her cell, Jeanine wonders what might lie beyond the wall. Evelyn tells her that Jeanine will never find out, then kills her.”

>> YUP! The REBEL was hailed like a hero. Among the last scenes she says to Four: “everyone is looking at me” – This is to show you what (((they))) think and how FAME is important to (((them))) along with attention = (((they))) like to be idolized, worship, hailed. Rolling my eyes.

The city along with the faction system is part of an experiment: amazing! Well, there are some out there whom theorize that we are not living on a round, ball like planet which rotates on itself, but we are living on a flat surface with a dome on top. Hold it anons. I won’t go there. This is too much even for me. But, all I wanted to point out, that the idea in the movie is the same as what this theory might be. I’m no with it, I’m not against it, I simply don’t want to go near it since I’m unable to grasp this. It’s a bit too much for me.

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021ba8  No.14187752

File: 125f368fe4ef78a⋯.jpg (39.36 KB, 550x415, 110:83, allegiant_movie_poster.jpg)

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>>14181734

(Please read from the start)

There is a third part in the series and we are going to check it out as it contains more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divergent_Series:_Allegiant

“The Divergent Series: Allegiant (simply known as Allegiant) is a 2016 American dystopian science fiction action film directed by Robert Schwentke with a screenplay by Bill Collage, Adam Cooper, and Noah Oppenheim, and the third and final part in The Divergent Series. It was set to be the first of two cinematic parts based on the final novel of the Divergent trilogy by Veronica Roth (the second part was to be Ascendant).

The film stars Shailene Woodley, Theo James, Jeff Daniels, Miles Teller, Ansel Elgort, Zoë Kravitz, Maggie Q, Ray Stevenson, Bill Skarsgård, Octavia Spencer, and Naomi Watts. Set in a post-apocalyptic and dystopian Chicago, the story follows Tris Prior, her boyfriend Four, and their small group of friends escaping over the wall that enclosed the city. Once outside, however, they discover new truths that will shift their alliances and introduce new threats.

[…]

Plot

After Evelyn forbids any citizen from leaving, she announces that all Erudite members involved in the previous coup attempt are to be put on trial and executed if found guilty. Tris and Four rescue Caleb from execution and try to escape over the wall, along with Tori, Peter, and Christina. Edgar ambushes the group and kills Tori, but the group escapes and passes the wall. However, soldiers with advanced weaponry intercept the group and take the members to the Bureau of Genetic Welfare, a city of advanced technology that is hidden behind a cloaking shield. After undergoing decontamination, the group learns that years ago, the UN believed that society's problems were caused by "damaged genes". Attempting to create a better society, it began to alter people's genes, which eventually led to the Purity Wars that destroyed most of the planet. To try to reverse the destruction, a series of "experiments" was set up in an attempt to repair the mistake, which established isolated cities across the remains of the world.”

>> Notables:

1 – Evelyn goes full blown Orwellian style doesn’t she?

2 – “Advanced weaponry” + “advanced tech” = we are talking about them in this thread, aren’t we? New tech presented under the name of “Cloaking shield”, which is something (((they))) have been showing us via Hollywood a lot over the decades and we also have seen in with Harry Potter’s invisible Cloak.

3 – “Bureau of Genetic Welfare” : sounds like Bill Gates is talking here. Do I need to explain this one anons?

4 – Ah! So the U.N. was the one tampering with the genetic human code in order to create a better society. LoL! It’s identical to what we are living right now, isn’t it?

5 – “Damaged genes” = what is this exactly? Do (((they))) considered only (((their))) genes to be perfect and good = not damaged? And the rest of humanity’s genes are damaged because it does not have (((their))) genes?

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021ba8  No.14187765

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>>14187752

(Please read from the start)

But what if it was the other way around anons? Do you remember what I wrote a few pages ago about the Jackal and Ogo from the Dogon People (pages 1 107 – 1 108)? What if (((they))) were the ones with damaged genes? And (((they))) got these damaged genes hereditary from (((their))) ancestors? Including (((their))) pre-Cataclysm ancestors. And this “damaged” gene is what makes (((them))) different from the rest of us “normal” humans and it’s what (((they))) are trying to preserve. It’s showing mostly with (((their))) obsession of keeping (((their))) blood pure. As I’ve said before, this illness of (((theirs))) is not curable and it’s in (((their))) D.N.A. = genes. So, now, (((they))) are trying to corrupt our genes to make us like (((them))). Isn’t this what this plandemic and the vaccines are all about?

It’s not just the Evil One has tried to create new life but I believe he also tried to make more like him = with faulty genes. (((They))) have been projecting this idea of faulty genes onto us, while (((they))) are the ones whom have them.

“Decontamination”: what do we decontaminate from? = Nuclear, biohazard, chemicals etc. in other words we decontaminate from things that are harmful to human wellbeing and health.

“Matthew and Nita test Tris and Four to verify and to study their Divergence. Tris is shown to be truly Divergent and the first Chicago Divergent to be 100% genetically pure, but Four's genetic structure indicates that his genes still carry damage. Caleb and Peter are assigned to surveillance teams that remotely monitor Chicago, and Christina and Four are assigned to the military. Matthew then brings Tris to the leader of the Bureau, David, who gives Tris a device that allows her to view her late mother's memories. She sees that her mother had been rescued from the wastelands as a child before she volunteered to join the Chicago experiment out of dedication to the project. In return for his help in restoring peace to Chicago in which David claims only the council to have the power to intervene, Tris agrees to help David continue the experiment.”

>> See what I was trying to tell you about the “divergent percentage” = blood purity percentage of the Bloodline.

“Meanwhile, Four and Christina train with Nita. They join the military on a rescue mission to a nearby wasteland village, but Four mistrusts the Bureau's intentions after he realizes that they are simply kidnapping children and wiping their memories with amnesia gas. Four also attempts to warn Tris of the Bureau's intentions, but a video call from David interrupts them. Caleb warns Four of a rapidly-escalating conflict back in Chicago between Johanna's group of Allegiants and Evelyn's Factionless. Four appeals to Tris for her to return to Chicago with him to end the bloodshed. However, she decides to go with David, who agrees to reinsert Four into Chicago under the escort of Matthew and some Bureau soldiers. Once in the air, Matthew quietly reveals to Four that the flight is a trap, and he is meant to be killed. A skirmish breaks out, and Four defeats all of the soldiers, but the transport crashes as a result. Matthew gives Four a device to allow passage through the cloaking shield, and Four proceeds to Chicago. Matthew remains behind to be rescued by the Bureau and warn Tris.”

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021ba8  No.14187773

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>>14187765

(Please read from the start)

>> Please watch closely the training of Four with this weird type of weapon he is using. What does it remind anons of? We’ve seen it before, didn’t we? Did you guess what it is? We keep on wondering what the hidden technologies are, so here is one for you? = a military type one. I believe we are looking at the Shenu Rings anons. See that tangent line…that’s the device Four in the movie wears on his head which turns into some sort of screen/glaces. The chances are high this is our Shenu Ring anons = high tech from Atlantis, used by the ThunderBirds warriors – redirecting anons to pages 936 & 1 023 last picture. These drone spheres also look like flying eyes if you look at them from a distance.

“Meanwhile, Tris disagrees with the council's objectives and criticizes their refusal to stop the violence in Chicago. The council responds that David has full power to intervene whenever he desires, revealing his lies. During the return flight to the Bureau, Tris ends her partnership. Upon her return, she gathers Caleb and Christina in David's hovercar to return to Chicago. Nita helps them escape and reveals that David's rule is not popular with everyone in the Bureau. The factionless capture Four, who confronts Evelyn to end the violence. Tris, Caleb, and Christina arrive to find the city tearing itself apart at the opening stage of a full assault by the Allegiant. Back at the Bureau, David makes a deal with Peter in exchange for Peter's promotion and inserts him into Chicago to convince Evelyn to deploy a hidden Bureau stockpile of amnesia gas to wipe the memories of the attackers and to force a peace in her favor to which she agrees; Peter takes her to a hidden vault.”

>> More drone = Shenu Ring (most possibly) scenes for anons to look at closely.

“After rescuing Four, Tris and Christina fight through the Factionless and arrive at the vault. At the vault door, Four convinces Evelyn to stop the gas attack, as he would not remember her if she carries it out. She capitulates and stops the release, but a frustrated Peter shoots her in the leg, gloating until the same gas starts flooding the vault as well. Realizing David has betrayed him, Peter opens the vault so that Tris and Four can stop the gas release. Peter flees back towards the cloaking shield, as Four vows to find and kill Peter.

Caleb arrives and aids Tris in destroying the gas dispersion hub, which stops the release. The group gathers atop the Erudite building as it watches David's shuttle, which autopilots back towards the Bureau and is heavily laden with explosives. Tris transmits a message to the whole world that reveals that the Bureau exists and that Chicago was an experiment in genetic purity. Her message to the Bureau is that Chicago is no longer their experiment but now the home of its citizens. Caleb detonates the explosives at the end of the message, which tear a massive hole through the cloak wall and reveal the Bureau. As the group watches, David's image is revealed to stand behind Tris via a Bureau remote viewing device.”

That’s it for this movie. It shows us how the ONE is selected = his blood purity is part of why he was selected. PART, not the entire reason for selection. But do not confuse and think it’s (((their))) blood purity; this is something different. This is another type of blood purity = the blood purity of the Light = the descendants of the Light. Maybe some of you have already guessed it, while other didn’t yet. Be patient with me, I’m going to talk about this more when I reach it. For now, I’m introducing the idea. Think about all the info I’m giving you, slowly. It’s not easy to digest, all of it, in one go.

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7f553e  No.14195521

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>>14187773

(Please read from the start)

Movie 7: The Dark Tower

This is a very very dark movie anons. This is one of the darkest movie content I’ve ever seen, loads of dark stuff unsaid and hidden under the surface, it’s very sinister: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)

“The Dark Tower is a 2017 American science fantasy Western action film directed and co-written by Nikolaj Arcel. Based on Stephen King's novel series of the same name, the film stars Idris Elba as Roland Deschain, a gunslinger on a quest to protect the Dark Tower—a mythical structure which supports all realities—while Matthew McConaughey plays his nemesis, Walter Padick (The Man in Black) and Tom Taylor stars as Jake Chambers, a boy who becomes Roland's apprentice.

Intended as the first installment in a multimedia franchise, the film combines various elements from the eight-novel series, and takes place in both modern-day New York City and in Mid-World, Roland's Old West-style parallel universe. The film also serves as a sequel to the novels.”

>> So we are supposed to have not one but 8 of these very dark movies. Just great!

“The production of the film was complex and difficult, as production began ten years before the release of the film. Efforts to adapt The Dark Tower series for the screen started in 2007, with periodic reports and official announcements. The project was then shelved before the rights were transitioned to a different production company. Development experienced starts and stops with various filmmakers and studios at different times, including Universal Pictures, Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros. Pictures, and Lionsgate Entertainment. The adaptation went through three major phases of planning: with J. J. Abrams from 2007 to 2009, Ron Howard from 2010 to 2015, and finally, the current iteration, announced in March 2015, produced by Sony Pictures Entertainment and Media Rights Capital, with Arcel directing and Howard remaining in a producing role.

The Dark Tower premiered at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City on July 31, 2017 and was theatrically released in the United States by Columbia Pictures on August 4, 2017. The film grossed $113 million worldwide on a $66 million budget and received generally negative reviews, with criticism aimed at its compression of the multiple-novel source material into a single film, though Elba's performance earned praise.”

>> I wonder why the production had a hard time working on this movie. Hm! Was it because it’s so dark and sinister? I wonder?

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7f553e  No.14195563

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>>14195521

(Please read from the start)

“Plot

11-year-old Jake Chambers (Tom Taylor) experiences visions involving a mysterious warlock, the Man in Black, who seeks to destroy a Tower and bring ruin to the Universe while a Gunslinger opposes him. Jake's visions are dismissed by his mother, stepfather, and psychiatrists as nightmares resulting from the trauma of his father's death the previous year.”

>> How old was Anakin again in Star Wars – Episode 1? He was just a boy, right? So in this movie, there is a TOWER which holds the multiple universes (maybe realms) together, if that “tower” collapses, everything will be destroyed.

What are the visions Jake see? = in the movie, they show us he’s got something close to the power of “precognition” = “also called prescience, future vision, or future sight, is a claimed psychic ability to see events in the future.” But it’s not just that, it’s like he can also see through dimensions in the present time and even could see past events. In other words, he has the ability of vision = seeing the past, the present in other realms/dimensions and the possible future. I don’t know about you anons, but isn’t this close to the description given about the Looking Glass?

If you are wondering if the young man has that power, the answer is a yes. He can see when he is awake and when he is asleep. That’s the major reason why he always lacks rest and sleep. He can see things before they happen even up to 10 years or just a few hours. He sees them as they happen, exactly the same way or sometimes he sees them in a symbolic way and these need interpretation. But he cannot just see anything. He must be “connected” to it or have some sort of “bond”.

“At his apartment home in New York City, a group of workers from an alleged psychiatric facility offer to rehabilitate Jake; recognizing them from his visions as monsters wearing human skin, Jake flees from them, and they give chase. Jake finds an abandoned house from one of his visions where he discovers a high-tech portal that leads to a post-apocalyptic landscape called Mid-World.”

>> What about this “wearing human skin”? = isn’t there a rumor out there, about a disgusting video where Killary is wearing the face of another human?

Let’s talking about the building Jack sees in his vision and goes to check out for real: There is a portal inside that building which helps people cross from one “world” to another but it’s a high tech one, not a spiritual one; as in it’s made of machinery. And the world it leads Jack to is a world where an apocalyptic event already occurred and devastated that world.

Look closely to the EYE drawn inside of the building Jack had seen in one of visions and mostly what is written: “All hail to the crimson KING”. Whom is the CRIMSON KING anons? Everyone will immediately think of Satan = the fallen one. And this is correct, but we reached the crimson king in another way in this thread = through archaeological artifacts. Remember how I keep on telling you that the RED color is the color of the Evil One? And didn’t I tell you he is one of the SEBETTI? Aren’t the Sebetti kings and queens = to be precise 5 kings and 2 queens? = rulers of their own clans/ tribes. The big eye symbol painted on the wall reminds me of the blasters the Evil One had on his armor. Lastly, the way this is painted on the wall, it gives you the impression that blood is used to write this; in turn reminding me of the disgusting writings and drawing of Marina Abramovic – if I’m not mistaking, she calls them art.

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7f553e  No.14195630

File: 56134eaad9e6a82⋯.jpg (47.75 KB, 512x291, 512:291, thedarktower_Walter_minion….jpg)

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>>14195563

(Please read from the start)

“In Mid-World, Jake encounters the Gunslinger, Roland Deschain (Idris Elba), who has emerged in his visions. Roland is pursuing Walter Padick (Matthew McConaughey) who has also appeared in Jake's dreams, seeking to kill him as revenge for the murder of his father, Steven, and all remaining Gunslingers. He explains to Jake that for decades, Walter has been abducting children with psychic powers, attempting to use their "shine" to bring down the Dark Tower, a fabled structure located at the center of the Universe. This will allow monstrous beings from the darkness outside to invade and destroy reality.”

>> How close to reality is this? As it was the case with the Divergent movie, and in Star Wars, here as well, there are “other” children with the “purity” in them - or “psychic power” in this case. Just like in Divergent and in Star Wars, each child has a different percentage of “purity” in his blood and yet again, the villain is looking for the ONE with the most “purity” in him in order to shatter the tower and open that portal which allows the monstrous beings which lives in the darkness "outside" to invade and destroy our world and reality. And this is a notion I’ve mentioned before; as in we are not kept prisoners in this world we are living in (either it’s a planet or a dome, whatever), it’s possible it is there to keep us humans safe from those demonic entities. It’s possible, the stargate is closed to protect us, not to imprison us. At least this is what I’m understanding from all of this. In this movie and the one before it, it is not said directly, but you can sense there is insinuation about the prophecy, talking of a child different than the others.

“Roland takes Jake to a local village in order to have his visions interpreted by a seer. Having learned of Jake's escape, Walter investigates and discovers from his minion Sayre that Jake has "pure Shine", enough psychic potential to destroy the Dark Tower single-handedly. Walter kills Jake's stepfather; then he interrogates his mother about her son's visions.”

>> It turns out Jack is the one with 100 % “purity” in him, what a coincidence!? I love this word they are using “pure shine” = is it referring to the Light Christ put in the young man? Does it mean we all have it but at different levels? Well, it’s what I’m calling “purity”; while in other movies it’s being called the Force, Divergent, magic etc. So Jack’s power is so strong that it can be used to destroy the tower alone. Is this what (((they))) were hoping William and/or Chelsea would be = the one person with enough blood “purity” that it would open the gate and bring in those “creatures” along with the spirit of the Anti-Christ?Walter can manipulate minds and/or can take control of them = isn’t this what demons are known to do? We have a “seer”, another lady whom can see and she is supposed to help Jack understand = interpret his visions.

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63e299  No.14195669

File: 87fcfef7251a61c⋯.jpg (64.5 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, thedarktower2017ending.jpg)

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>>14195630

(Pleaser read from the start)

“Back in Mid-World, the seer determines that the machine is six months away on foot and portal access is restricted to Walter's bases. Jake realizes that Walter has a base in New York that they can use to reach the machine. Suddenly, the Taheen, Walter's minions, attack the village – but Roland kills many of them. Roland and Jake return to Earth where Roland's injuries are treated at a hospital. Jake learns the location of Walter's base from a homeless man who helped him earlier. When Jake returns home to check in on his mother, he finds her charred remains and breaks down in tears. Seeing this, Roland vows to avenge her death. This leads to him teaching Jake the basics of gun fighting, as well as the Gunslinger's Creed, which he hasn't uttered since his own father's death.

As Roland replenishes his weapons supply at a gun store, he is attacked by Walter, who captures Jake and takes him through a portal at his base to a machine that will destroy the Dark Tower with Jake's powers. Jake uses these psychic powers to alert Roland to the portal code he needs and Roland battles his way through Walter's henchmen, reopening the portal, which Jake forces to stay open. Walter is forced to return to New York to fight Roland and wounds him. When Jake reminds him of the Gunslinger's Creed, Roland recovers and kills Walter with a trick shot after a brief fight. Finally he destroys the machine and saves the Dark Tower, Jake, and the other children.

As the film ends, Roland prepares to return to his own world and offers Jake a place by his side as his companion. Jake accepts the offer and the two head back to Mid-World together.

[…]”

>> So Jack made a CHOICE and refused to join Walter, he refused to give in and resisted and didn’t allow the destruction of the tower. For the portal to work, it needs a code and isn’t a code some sort of numeric KEY?

In the movie, there is a scene not mentioned in the plot section of the Wikipedia page: Jack and Roland are in the woods resting. Jack wakes up and goes to what looks like his father, it turns out to be a demon from another “realm” whom have taken the shape of Jack’s father to lure him. The area around the demon was like a strange substance but here it’s reddish and not black. And we start by only seeing the demon’s head with his horns curled downward like the ones of the RAM. I won’t be surprised if I found out there are traitors in some of the Sebetti clans, like the Wolf, Ram clans etc. It all depends on whom followed the cult and beliefs of the Evil One. Then in the movie, we see the demon emerge slowly from that substance and it fights with Roland and injure him before it’s killed.

When you look at the demon that came out, it looks like an animal doesn’t it? Not just any animal = we’ve seen this animal before or at least similar to it, in this thread starting page 748 = Mishipeshu or the underwater panther – more precisely look at the rock drawing on page 749 and compare. See, this is not a human warrior, but some type of genetically modified creature = animal = Frankenstein style lab creation by the Evil One because he wanted to play God and create new life. So he created his own evil nasty creatures as well, and we are seeing one of them in this movie. I wonder where the author = Steven King got his inspiration from? = did he get it from the Native American stories? Or did he get it after making contact with such creature? This is it for this movie. Even though it’s not mentioned directly, it’s clear it’s linked to the prophecy and the child of the prophecy.

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7f553e  No.14201351

File: 554fae6706ab649⋯.jpg (42.75 KB, 333x500, 333:500, The_Mortal_Instruments_Cit….jpg)

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>>14195669

(Please read from the start)

Movie 8: Mortal Instruments: City of Bones

This is the last movie in a row of 8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mortal_Instruments:_City_of_Bones

“The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones is a 2013 urban fantasy film based on the first book of The Mortal Instruments series by Cassandra Clare. The story takes place in contemporary New York City. Directed by Harald Zwart, the film stars an international cast, including Lily Collins, Jamie Campbell Bower, Robert Sheehan, Kevin Zegers, Jemima West, Godfrey Gao, Lena Headey, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Aidan Turner, Kevin Durand, and Jared Harris. It was released in theaters on August 21, 2013, by Screen Gems in the United States and Entertainment One in the United Kingdom. The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones earned $91 million against a $60 million production budget. The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones was released on DVD and Blu-ray on December 3, 2013, by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

Plot

New York City teenager Clary Fray begins seeing and drawing a strange symbol, worrying her mother Jocelyn Fray and family friend, Luke Garroway. At a crowded nightclub with her friend, Simon Lewis, Clary is the only one who can see Jace Wayland and his accomplices killing a man. The next day, two men, Emil Pangborn and Samuel Blackwell, arrive at the Fray apartment searching for a cup. Jocelyn calls Clary, frantically telling her to stay away and to warn Luke about someone named Valentine; she then drinks a potion putting her in a deep sleep. Returning home, Clary finds her mother missing and is attacked by a dog-like creature. Jace, a "Shadowhunter", appears and kills it, explaining that it, like the "man" killed at the nightclub, was a demon in another form.”

>> Clary = Clara = Clarice (reminds me of the Silence of the lambs movie) = Claire = same name = what does it mean? = it means Enlightened, clear, bright, LIGHT ^_^ Did I hit the bull’s eye again anons? You think the name was picked up randomly? Think again. It’s about the ONE whom carries the Light. The real question is: is it the REAL Carrier or the Fake Carrier we are talking about here? Look at what’s writen on Carly’s poster from the movie! Not my words, but (((theirs))) ^_~ It’s the same idea that keeps on repeating over and over in each movie, from Harry Potter, to Anakin, to Neo, etc.

Notice Carly’s hair color? Where did we see reddish/brownish hair before in this thread? Oh yeah! It’s the Caucasian genes, right? = Either in the Andean region or in the Caucasus and in the Middle East. I have a question: whom is the ancestor of the RED HAIRS? I haven’t been able to solve this riddle yet. I have 2 options, each on a different side of the spectrum = one of the Evil Couple – two is the TRUE, RIGHTFUL HEIR.

So now, let’s add to the mix the Armenian Genocide ordered by the Bloodlines and executed by their henchmen the Turks (mostly) and the Kurds to some extent. Would the Bloodlines exterminate an entire RACE to eliminate the Blood of their beloved Evil One? I don’t think that’s it, because (((they))) are doing (((their))) outmost best to keep that blood pure = to preserve it.

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7f553e  No.14201363

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>>14201351

(Please read from the start)

But we know that (((they))) eliminate what (((they))) hate = Christ and the descendants of the King of kings = the rightful heir = the Crown Prince. So if I follow this logic, I can only reach the conclusion that the Heir of the King of kings had RED HAIR and yes….he SURVIVED the big Cataclysm: Remember Atra-Hasis and how he put his family to safety? Remember in the Epic of Gilgamesh how some gods escaped in their “chariots” (or whatever it was called, I’m going from memory here). Do you understand what Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal was doing by traveling out from Egypt to the Middle East? It’s all connected and if we put them together, we can get a sequence of events that happened. This sequence of events will project to us the story of what happened back then.

Look very well to the “strange symbol” Clary keeps on drawing. If we look at it from afar, doesn’t it look like the shape of an Antelope’s head with the horns? As in, doesn’t it look like the shape of a horned Satanic head? Now, now! Don’t be too picky about the shape of the horns = the curve in the symbol from the movie. Why? Because when you take a look online at the Antelope shape of horns, there is a huge variety of them out there, depending on the animal. What I’m putting in the picture is a sample. I don’t want to get too deep into it. It’s the reason why I’m using the word Antelope as a general term and not going into specifics because that’s a very deep tunnel to go into and it’s very complicated. I rather stick to the main tunnel anons and leave such research for those whom are interested in such things. And to think this is originally a series of books designed for teens and young adults audiences. (((They))) did an excellent job in planting the seeds of Satanism in the brains and spirits of the young generation.

Look at the names used for the movie characters. I never looked into it, but some anons said that Valentines (the lover’s day or whatever) is actually a Satanic celebration of some sort disguised as that of Love. If it’s true, no surprise there! What about this “dog-like creature”? It sounds like one of those Frankenstein creatures created by the Evil One in his attempt to play God.

We have “demons” from “another world” = maybe it’s better to say from “another realm” and Jace is a “shadow hunter” = cool sexy name to lure in teens and youngsters. The name is kinda true though. I mean whatever those things are, made of that substance, it’s like shadows or dark matter or whatever you want to call it. And if the warriors of the Light can kill those dark/black things, then, yes, I guess it makes them some type of hunters. If you look at the first picture I’m putting with the next page = the shadow hunters codex (LoL!), you will see how (((they))) created this whole “saga”, myth and merchandise from it, good marketing and brainwashing strategy, just like for Star Wars. This is how (((they))) make the big bucks.

“With help from the Frays' neighbor, Madame Dorothea, a witch, Jace deduces that Pangborn and Blackwell seek a lost artifact called the Mortal Cup. Jace and Clary, along with Simon, go to Luke's antique store. Pangborn and Blackwell are forcibly interrogating Luke who, to protect Clary and Jocelyn, falsely claims he cares nothing about the Frays and only wants the Mortal Cup. The trio escapes to the Shadowhunter Institute, a hidden cathedral-like building, where Jace treats Clary, who was stung by the demon. She and Simon meet two other Shadowhunters, siblings Alec and Isabelle Lightwood, and Shadowhunter leader, Hodge. Clary learns that Shadowhunters, invisible to mortals, are half-human, half-angel demon slayers. Clary has inherited her Shadowhunter mother's powers, including drawing temporary magical runes on the skin. The Mortal Cup is one of three Mortal Instruments given to the first Shadowhunter by the Angel Raziel. Shadowhunters are either descended from other Shadowhunters or made by drinking from the cup. Hodge explains that Valentine Morgenstern, an ex-Shadowhunter who betrayed the order, now seeks the Cup to control both Shadowhunters and demons.”

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7f553e  No.14201373

File: 64ec7f30cfc02d3⋯.jpg (142.73 KB, 768x1024, 3:4, The_Shadowhunter_s_codex_c….jpg)

>>14201363

(Please read from the start)

Loads to talk about here:

We have a witch in the movie and this witch can read somewhat what is hidden and the future using tarot cards. We have a Sacred object = a CUP; reminds us of the Last Supper. We have a friend of Clary’s mother named Luke whom turns out to be a werewolf. I’ve always wondered about the “trend” of werewolves, mostly in the movies and Hollywood. I never guessed where and why (((they))) got the idea of a man being bitten by some type of wolf creatures turns into one during a full moon and stuff like that related to how real wolves behave. But for some time now, I’ve been wondering if the origin of this werewolf trend we have is not the Wolf Sebetti Clan actually. It’s just some thoughts, of course I cannot verify this.

The shadow hunters have some type of quarters or building, called the Institute which looks like a Cathedral on the outside. First of the name picked = Institute, has educational connotation to it, making us think of teaching and learning = teachers and students. Which also points to knowledge, as in a place where knowledge exists or is stored, not just learned. Picking the design of a Cathedral for the outside of the Institute made me chuckle: (((they))) surely like to “dirty” anything and everything that has a holy, pure image. Reminds me of Katy Perry ‘s lawsuit with the nuns and all of that stuff.

Hodge, the shadow hunters’ leader sounds like a squadron commander, a teacher, a mentor, the Institute “guardian”, a care taker and a guide for the youngsters. We keep on seeing this character/persona in most of the movies that the ONE always had some type of teacher or mentor, an elder whom guides him. In most movies this “teacher” is presented as good and wise person, but in this movie, (((they))) gave it a twist.

Here, the ONE is a girl, while we see it’s a boy in other movies. Just like it’s the case for the teacher/mentor, (((they))) do not know how both of them will turn out. I mean (((they))) do not know the gender of the child, nor do (((they))) know if the child and the teacher will turn out both evil, both good or one of the options. If we compare what we have from all the movies with this same theme, you will notice how much (((they))) are flip flopping about this: it’s because (((they))) don’t know how things are going to turn out. And the reason (((they))) don’t know and (((they))) weren’t able to predict it is because the decision was never (((theirs))) to make, the choice was never (((theirs))). Things were decided and put in motion a LONG TIME AGO and it was always out of (((their))) control.

Here comes the interesting part: the warriors a.k.a. the shadow hunters are not entirely human nor entirely angelic, but a mix of both = as in half human and half angelic. If I’m not mistaking, this is what is projected by the book of Enoch. I never touched that book or read it. The one whom worked on it was my teacher and mentor and it’s the only book that I saw him ever throw in the garbage bin. We divided the work between us because as you can see the research is huge, dangerous and takes an extremely long time to reach for results. It took most of our lives to get where we are now. But we trust each other and each other’s judgement terribly, we’ve been together for decades working silently on this, for too many reasons, including for the young man’s sake. So when my mentor says the book of Enoch is worth garbage and is nothing than pure Zionist/Jewish brainwashing BS.; even if I never worked on it, I believe him. And he is better than I am on all of this.

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de17cd  No.14202225

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>>14201373

(Please read from the start)

The thing is anons, after the Cataclysm everyone, including MOST of the Sebetti = the kings and queens were stranded on earth along with their warriors and the normal people. The “exceptional” ones lived with the normal folks after the Cataclysm, which is a normal consequence of the Cataclysm when you think about it. And this is how the Royal Blood of the Sebetti got mixed with the Blood of us normal folks, the Blood of the Light and the Blood of Darkness ALIKE.

Remember how Neith lived in Ancient Egypt, then traveled to Phoenicia to live in the City-State of Gebal for some time? Remember how Lamashtu (starting page 958) is depicted nursing 2 animals? = in order to “nurse” you gotta give birth first – sometimes we also see her pregnant – look online. We also know the Evil Lady was most probably pregnant and gave birth to the descendants of the Evil One, and that’s the precious Blood (((they))) go into such length to preserve = it’s the Blood of the Evil Couple.

The fallen angels mating with the human females and all of that stuff from the book of Enoch is only (((their))) view on the matter; how (((they))) are telling (((their))) story = the story of (((their))) ancestors whom participated in the coup and somehow survived the big Cataclysm. That story does not tell what happened = the coup and mostly it does not tell the view of the Light, it only talks about the view of the Darkness.

Another interesting point in this movie is that only the original shadow hunters, their direct descendants and those whom become shadow hunters by drinking from the cup can see other shadow hunters and the demons = the other world. As in normal people cannot see either the warriors of Light or the warrior of the Darkness. And this is real and true, even for us, in the real world. Not just everyone can see the beings of Light and the beings of Darkness.

Clary got her powers from her mother whom was a shadow hunter and her mother even among the shadow hunters had special abilities = it’s passed through the Blood. We hear the same thing in Star Wars, Beautiful Creatures…and if I look at other Hollywood movies, how many will I find with the same idea in them.

In the movie we get informed that there are 3 Mortal Instruments = 3 special objects with Divine Powers. I wonder if this is what (((they))) are looking for under the Umayyad square in Damascus as the rumor says. I also wonder if these specific objects of high value to (((them))) are what (((they))) think (((they))) need = as mystical objects in order to open/activate the Stargate. You know…(((they))) think (((they))) need them in order to complete the ritual. So one of these objects is a CUP or a Chalice according to this movie; I wonder what the other 2 are.

The most interesting part in all of this story is how the FIRST group of shadow hunters were created. If I’m not mistaking, the story goes as in the Angel Raziel put some of his blood in the Mortal Cup and some humans drank it. Those humans became the first shadow hunters after “gaining” some powers or whatever. It’s very important for the reader to understand that the warriors of the Light DO NOT practice the DRINKING of the Blood = the entire concept of drinking blood is solely done by the Fallen One = the Evil One and his followers.

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de17cd  No.14202266

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>>14202225

(Please read from the start)

Anons may wonder why? The Light cherishes life, mostly human life. They preserve it, not destroy it. They do not ask for blood sacrifices, it’s not in their thoughts nor it’s their concept. Such things do no cross their minds, they resent it.

On the other hand, the Evil One is in DIRE NEED for FRESH Human Blood, because of his genetic illness. He needs “fresh” human blood in order to sustain himself and stay alive. That’s why (((they))), from long ago, started all of this tale of vampires and drinking human blood and doing human sacrifices. And if the descendants of the Evil One mixed their blood with the descendants of his 72 followers (along the centuries) then, now, all of (((them))) are in need of fresh blood in order to live = since the illness was passed on to (((them))). Fresh Human Blood does not CURE the Evil One from his illness but it diminishes or should I say postpone the effects of his illness. That’s why he needs constant supplies of fresh human blood. Animal blood won’t cut it. It’s like all he can do is kick the can down the road. But I think, somewhere in that delusional crazy mind of his, he thinks having that Blood makes him special, since he is unique or the first one of his kind = the crazy evil kind.

In the movie, the story says it’s one of God’s Angels called Raziel whom gives his Blood for normal humans to drink and become shadow hunters. Raziel is depicted twice in the movie: 1 – in a painting and 2 – sculpted as a statue.

1 – In the painting, he is represented as a white angel with blond hair, probably had blue eyes. He is wearing an armor and holding a sword in his right hand. It seems he is wearing a red cape – picture in previous page.

2 – The statue of Raziel is probably one of the big notables of this movie. Just pay attention to the details. First thing that pops to the eye is the Greek/Roman style the armor Raziel is wearing. Of course he has wings and he is holding an identical sword to the one he is holding in the portrait. Here too, he’s wearing a cape and his helmet is on his head, but not lowered to cover his face: he can be considered as a beautiful person, or should I say a handsome man. Isn’t this what God’s Angel are supposed to look like? = beautiful = good looking. But with this statue, there are 4 mind boggling details – I couldn’t get better pictures, so if anyone reading can provide them to see things better and maybe found out more details, it will be great:

A- The first detail is the stack of bones and skulls Raziel is standing on. This stance = the way he is standing, is that of a blood spilling fighter. Let me inform you that a “good” person doesn’t stack skulls, step on them and takes a pose like that. That denotes arrogance in the victory. The warriors of the Light, don’t stay behind to be depicted on a stack of skulls, after a fight, they go away. This suggests that Raziel did a massacre, if we rely on the big number of skulls under his feet. The reader will argue that Raziel, in the story of the movie, fought demons, so it’s “natural”, “normal” for him to stand on a stack of demon bones. But anons, are you looking closely to the bones? Those are human bones, not demon bones; look mostly at the teeth = no fangs. This is supposed to be a fantasy movie for youngsters but amazingly, the demons Raziel supposedly slayed and is stepping on their skulls look incredibly human and not demonish at all – if we compare them to other demons from other movies.

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de17cd  No.14202301

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>>14202266

(Please read from the start)

B- The second detail is the little and tiny people (mostly), animals (probably) and structures = buildings we see all over the body of Raziel. It’s like a miniature world built around him and on him. Is that building a church or is it the Institute from the movie? I don’t know, the picture isn’t that clear when I zoom in. And I have no idea what these miniatures are doing there on the statue and what is their meaning. The most amazing miniature is on his left shoulder = a Chinese DRAGON. Anyone reading interested in decoding the mystery of these miniatures and their symbolism? I’m sure there is a symbolism in it all. (((They))) wouldn’t have gone into the trouble of creating this statue with such sophisticated details if it wasn’t important for (((them))). There is a message here right in front of our eyes.

C – The most mind boggling detail is what is sitting on the floor, right between the legs of Raziel = a baby/ toddler with angel wings and demonic horns along with a dragon next to him. Do you know whom stands between the legs of an adult? = his offspring = his child. If we observe the animal world, it’s always the child that stands in the safest place = between the parent’s legs because it makes it easier for the mother to protect the cub. Here, it’s no different and the message projected by this iconography is HUGE and very telling. It confirms what I’ve been telling anons = everything started with an Evil One, he is one of the Sebetti, a warrior king leading a clan with some sort of genetic illness which changed him = turned him Evil and he committed awful things. He mated with a female Sebetti and had at least one offspring, passing on that illness to the offspring. I’m still unsure which is his heraldic sign: it’s either the Antelop or the Serpent. It’s one of the two. The other heraldic sign belongs to the Lady he seduced and mated with; again I’m uncertain which is to whom. One thing is for sure, that offspring of his, the ones we see in these pictures between his feet, that kid inherited the symbol of both of his parents; as in we can consider him as being both the Serpent and the Antelope in the same time.

D – The last detail is a puppy we see on the back side of the demonic offspring between the feet of Raziel. This young dog reminds me of the Hound of Hell we saw in the relief of Nergal (page 790) – and we know the origins of Cerberus, the hound of Hades in Greek mythology, come from the hound of Nergal via the Hittites.

Last detail about the statue of Raziel from the movie: I’m fully aware the statue is placed on a small elevated platform but this is actually very close to the real height of the warriors of the Light and that Demon commander that came to snatch the young man that day. All the Sebetti and their fighters = their warriors, at the start, before they split into good and evil, they were all approximately this height. It’s almost double the current height of a normal human, right? Remember what I was saying about the pyramid door, the doorways in Cusco with the Incas, the size = depths of the steps (look how big the feet of Raziel are) – I’m going to ask you to go back and re-read what I wrote in the summary of the Andean region about the Giants (starting page 666) and if you would like to check the elongated skulls = Caucasians (starts page 665). Read, check it out, compare, and make up your own mind. Put this puzzle together yourself, the pieces should start to fit perfectly by now for the reader. It’s incredible how they put the statue on display right in front of the windows in the movie where the LIGHT comes in, as if Raziel is THE Light carrier. Or as I call him = the Lamp carrier. LoL!

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476210  No.14207567

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>>14202301

(Please read from the start)

Then Hodge explains that there was a shadow hunter whom betrayed the order; in other words one of the warriors whom used to hunt down demons betrayed the good side and turned Evil. We’ve see the concept of betrayal many times in this thread; mostly with Seth, actually, this Valentine dude from the movie, he’s very much like Seth from Ancient Egypt. Both used to be warriors fighting for the good side, till they flipped and became evil. By seeking the cup = symbol of power in the movie, to control both the shadow hunters and the demons….doesn’t that make Valentine obsessed with power and thirsty to rule over ALL, like a god? Isn’t this what the coup to kill the King of kings was about? = to take the throne and the power to rule over ALL. How many movies did we see this idea projected in so far in this thread; from Tron: Legacy to Oz….all the way till this page….and we also see it in the ancient myths and legends and stories from every place we’ve visited so far in this thread. You think this is a coincidence?

Just take a look at the poster from the movie of Valentine Morgenstern and what’s written on it ^_~ Hey! It’s not me whom wrote this story, nor me doing the movie.

“Hodge instructs Jace to take Clary to the City of Bones, a sanctuary beneath a cemetery. When the Silent Brothers attempt to unlock Clary's blocked memories, they uncover a connection to Magnus Bane, the High Warlock of Brooklyn. At Bane's club, he tells Clary that Jocelyn had him block knowledge of the Shadowhunter world from Clary's mind. When Vampires kidnap Simon, Jace, Alec, Isabelle, and Clary trail them to their hideout. They find Simon, but vampires outnumber them. Werewolves intervene and save them.”

>> It’s incredible how the vampires and werewolves are always fighting each other in Hollywood movies = it became almost a standard story – sometimes the werewolves are depicted as being the slaves or servants of vampires. Geez! I wonder why is that? And I wonder from where the imagery came from? Do you think the vampires are a projection of the Bloodline clan, while the werewolves are the projection of the Wolf Clan? It’s highly possible, isn’t it? But leave it to Hollywood and the Bloodline’s lunatics to twist things around and present them in the way we see them in movies.

The scene in the movie with the Silent Brothers is very symbolic. Carly stands on the EYE and she get enlightened = she remembers = she knows the truth = she sees the light, sort of speak, as if her name has not enough symbolism in it self as it is. I didn’t look that much into it, but I’m sure if I observe that scene, mostly the place where it’s taking place, I’m sure I’m going to find out loads and loads of symbolism in it.

“As Simon recovers at the Institute, Clary notices two puncture marks on his shoulder, while he discovers he suddenly no longer needs eyeglasses. Clary shares a romantic evening with Jace, ending in a kiss. When Simon jealously confronts Clary about it, she downplays the incident, angering Jace. Simon confesses he loves Clary, though she does not reciprocate his feelings.”

>> It wouldn’t be a story if there wasn’t a romantic twist in it.

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476210  No.14207586

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>>14207567

(Please read from the start)

“Clary realizes the Mortal Cup is hidden inside one of Madame Dorothea's tarot cards that her mother painted as a gift. The group goes to Dorothea's apartment, but a demon has replaced her. Simon and Jace kill it, but Alec is lethally stung. Clary retrieves the Mortal Cup card, and they return to the institute. Hodge summons Magnus Bane to heal Alec.”

>> The demon had replaced Dorothea: does it mean I can take procession of humans? Or does it mean it can shapeshift and take the form of a human? I think these demons can do both.

“Clary removes the Mortal Cup from the card and gives it to Hodge, who betrays them by summoning Valentine Morgenstern through a portal and giving him the Cup. When Valentine reveals he is Clary's father, she refuses to join him. She puts the cup back into the card, then escapes through the portal that transports her to Luke's store. Luke, revealed to be the werewolf who helped fight the vampires, confirms that Valentine is her father and says Clary had an older brother named Jonathan, who died as a toddler. Luke and his werewolf pack go to the Institute with Clary to battle Valentine after he summons demons through a roof opening. Simon finds Jocelyn, still unconscious, at the Institute, and he and Isabelle close the roof opening with help from a repentant Hodge.”

>> There is a portal in the movie and amazingly it looks a lot like the portal we have in the movie Stargate, but smaller in size and this one has some type of doors. Even the “liquid” stuff that is in the portal is very close to the stuff we see in the movie Stargate.

We have the idea of treason popping out a second time in the movie.

Let’s talk about Valentine being the father of Carly: In the movie they show us that Valentine was in love with Jocelyn = another shadow hunter: it reminds me of how a Sebetti seduced another Sebetti. Then, they live together and form a family of 4, but Jocelyn see Valentine doing some “forbidden” experiments as in mixing demon Blood in the cup and drinking from it….you know: that sort of taboo thing, the sort of thing that cannot be forgiven. So Jocelyn takes ONE of her children with her and runs away. It is not clearly stated what happened with her elder child = Jonathan; they show us in the movie that the house burned and it’s assumed the kid perished in that fire. But, regardless, the mother’s reaction, as depicted in the movie, is odd because for all of those years she never went back to verify if her son is really dead or if there was a tiny chance for him to have survived, nor do we see her mourn or remember him (or any sign of attachment). No matter what, a true loving mother will never forget her child nor stop mourning if she lost him.

Look at how Valentines behaves towards his own daughter. Is this how a father should be talking with his own daughter? Isn’t it tooooo intimate? Even if a father is going to whisper something to his daughter’s ear, it wouldn’t be this sensual; here, it’s as if he was trying to seduce her or lure her with sweet words, as you do for a lover. This scene gives the FAINT smell of incest with the way it’s acted. The way Valentine behaves with Carly reminds me of how Biden behaves. Anons know what I mean there.

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476210  No.14207687

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>>14207586

(Please read from the start)

The summoning scene takes place in what seem to be the library of the Institute; there Valentine takes various weapons and place them in a way that when we look at it from above, it will have the shape of a pentagram. I have tried to look for pictures, but for some strange reason this movie lacks of pictures from many scenes (which are usually abundant for other movies). So I couldn’t find exactly what I wanted to show anons, from the pentagram to the opening in the roof, from where the demons enter. I hope anons can watch the movie and observe how that opening is and how the demons enter this realm from it = how they behave and move. I couldn’t even find the scene in youtube. Sorry about that.

Then, there is a fight scene in another place within the Institute with Carly and Luke there. Carly draws a RUNE symbol, unseen/unknown before, on her palm and LIGHT comes out of it and it kinda freezes the demons while they are attacking them. Look closely at those demons from the scene. They have this ashy, volcanic, smoke side to them. It was like they just came out from the fires of Hell itself, isn’t it? See how they are attached to that dark substance? It’s like they have no feet to walk on, but they do have heads and arms to grab and slash things. It’s like a giant black octopus isn’t it? But in this movie, they don’t crawl on the walls; this detail is different.

At the end, Hodge repents, as in he regrets joining hands with Valentines = he is trying to make amends. His behavior reminds me of Ea in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

“Clary and Jace fight Valentine, who lies by claiming Jace is his son. Clary tricks Valentine by giving him a replica Mortal Cup, then pushes him into the portal, destroying it. Jocelyn is rescued but remains unresponsive at the hospital. Clary uses her new-found powers to repair the apartment. Jace arrives, confessing he needs her and disbelieves they are siblings and will uncover the truth. Realizing she belongs in the Shadowhunter world, Clary returns to the Institute with Jace.”

>> Valentine has the tongue of a snake, just like the tricks played by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. And he pushed forward the idea (given by Hodges) that Carly and Jace are siblings and therefore their love is forbidden. What do you say anons? Is this a projection of what really happened back then between the Serpent and the Antelope Sebettis? Were they siblings as in sister and brother whom committed the grave sin of Incest?

This was hinted before and we also encountered the idea in this thread but it’s still blurry and the type relationship or bond between the Evil Couple is unclear apart their sexual ties. If this turns out to be true, if my doubts and suspicions turn out to be true, then 2 of the King of kings children had a taboo relationship with one another. I’m not sure, but I’m also wondering if this is not the real origin behind the practice of Incest marriage in most bloodline royal families throughout history. It’s not just to keep their stupid blood pure but it’s also to imitate what the Evil Couple did back then. Loads to think about here.

Well anons, I guess this sums it up with the movie tunnel. I know I barely scratched the surface of them, but I cannot waste too much time going in too deep. I bet there are tons of details I omitted and/or missed and if I search for more movies I will find plenty of the same. I just used these to highlight some points for anons and to make you see that the core story is the same behind most of the movies but they gave them each a bit of twisting here and there, changing tiny things or the décor or the settings to make them look different; but in reality, the core story is the same.

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f0d9e7  No.14214079

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>>14207687

(Please read from the start)

It’s obvious the next thing to check is this angel Raziel mentioned in the last movie = he’s the center piece where everything else rotates around him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raziel

“Raziel (Hebrew: רַזִיאֶל‎; [raˈziʔɛl]; "secret of God") is an angel within the teachings of Jewish mysticism (of the Kabbalah of Judaism) who is the "Keeper of Secrets" and the "Angel of Mysteries". He is associated with the sephirah Chokhmah (the second of ten) in Beri'ah, one of the Four Worlds of Kabbalistic theory.”

>> The connection is so obvious here between Judaism and Kabbalah, no need for me to explain anything = just 2 sides of one and same coin. Each time I hear an American Patriot say that their country is based on Judeo-Christian “values”, I make one face palm after the other and I cannot help myself but remember what Christ tasked the young man to do: spread his true words, his real message to the world. In other words, up till now, we have been walking down the wrong path = the Judeo-Christian path. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian: there is Judaism and there is Christianity. They are NOT linked. Each time such words are put and uttered together, you are hammering those nails deeper into the flesh of Christ. He came to break the chains and free us from Judaism evil teachings, not to bind us to (((them))) as slaves.

“Mysticism and tradition

Various teachings assign Raziel to diverse roles, including that of a cherub, a member of the Ophanim, and chief of the Erelim.”

>> I hope anons will check these out themselves and connect the dots ^_~ it’s easy and the real meaning is obvious. The roles of Raziel are all pointing in the same direction = he was on the side of the Evil One.

“Raziel, under the alternate name Galizur "Revealer of The Rock" is described as the "-ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven.-" He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom" and protects the ministering angels from the living creatures that uphold the universe.”

>> I don’t know about you anons, but I keep on wondering whom this Raziel is. Was he maybe a Sebetti? Was he a son of a Sebetti since he was a prince and not a king? Was he a relative of a Sebetti? Was he a vassal = noble whom served a Sebetti? It works fine anyway you put it because it’s clear Raziel was an aristocrate or a noble. His “domain” was the second Heaven where he most likely oversaw to the ruling of that place.

“Authorship of Sefer Raziel HaMalakh

The famous Sefer Raziel HaMalakh ("Book of Raziel the Angel") attributed to this figure is said to contain all secret knowledge, and is considered to be a book of magic. He stands close by God's throne, and therefore hears and writes down everything that is said and discussed.He purportedly gave the book to Adam and Eve after they ate from the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil (that resulted in their expulsion from the Garden of Eden) so the two could find their way back "home" and better understand their God. Raziel's fellow angels were deeply disturbed by this, and thus stole the book from Adam and threw it into the ocean. God Himself decided not to punish Raziel, but instead retrieved the book by means of the angel Rahab and returned it to Adam and Eve. Bertie considers this story - not attested in the Bible - to be a variant of the story of Prometheus in Greek mythology.”

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122e31  No.14214110

>>14214079

(Please read from the start)

“According to some sources, the book was passed on through the generations to Enoch (In 3 Enoch believed to have later become the angel Metatron), who may have incorporated his own writings into the tome. From Enoch, the archangel Raphael gave it to Noah, who used the wisdom within to build Noah's Ark. The Book of Raziel was said to have come into the possession of King Solomon, and a number of texts claiming to be this volume have recently appeared.”

>> This section is a pure treasure of information. It’s marvelous. First thing anons gotta do is notice the date = very late, when this was “book” was written about Raziel. Then anons got to be fully aware of WHOM wrote this: as in it was (((them))) and this is super important, because we are seeing through this text (((their))) view and interpretation of the events that took place long ago. This is how (((they))) tell the story. And notice how (((they))) shape the storyline. The way the story is shaped is in the same “tone” as how (((they))) portray Seth to be; as in he was a good person whom was justified to rebel against the legitimate ruler = Osiris, and then killed him and cut him to pieces and ate him along with other co-conspirators. Seth did all of these crimes for the greater good, according to (((them))) = it’s justified. Here, it’s the same concept and the same tone to the storyline; which I’m going to dissect next: I’ll be doing my best, this one is not easy to totally figure out:

Let’s start with the first sentence where it said that the book of Angel Raziel contains “all secret knowledge, and is considered to be a book of magic.” What does this really mean?

The strange part is the word “ALL” used when talking about knowledge. If ALL secret knowledge was given to man, why are we still so ignorant and doing stupid things? This includes the Bloodlines and the so-called Enlighted ones. I mean, if ALL was given and revealed to (((them))) why are (((they))) still unable to open that portal to bring the spirit of the Anti-Christ? If ALL secret knowledge was given to mankind in the book written by the Angel Raziel, (((they))) wouldn’t be stuck in this world with mundane humans and (((they))) would have already accessed to immortality and the secret of Creation itself. But it’s not the case, (((they))) still die, like we normal humans do and (((they))) still cannot open that Stargate. So you see, right from the get go, there is something wrong with the storyline because it’s clear, NOT ALL the SECRETS were given to mankind, including to (((them))).

So this means the “all secret knowledge” has another meaning. And I see it as having a “diplomatic” meaning; as in policy making or political meaning. For anons to understand me better, I would like to ask them to take a look at last picture I’ve attached to page 1 025 of the council meeting, taken from the movie Black Panther. Anons already read the paragraph put in the Wikipedia page of Raziel, so they already know that Raziel was near the throne of God.

This in turn is pointing us to the throne room or audience room or whatever room where meetings took place and the throne existed. In other words, the throne of God existed in a place where politics, decisions, rulings and judgments are carried out. It doesn’t exist in the kitchen = cooking area, nor the bedroom = sleeping area. It’s in a place where State affairs are handled and discussed.

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166ce9  No.14221517

>>14214110

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Just by looking at all the rulers worldwide in the history of mankind, from kings, to dictators, to presidents, we all know that when state affairs are discussed, there are secrets there as well. What kind of secrets? Well, there are financial issues, military issues, infrastructure issues etc., all of these, can be sensitive secrets, secret knowledge that we normal humans = the public don’t know anything about. Just take a look currently at Potus; how many military meetings he held to clean the swamp? How many financial meeting he had in order to save the crumbling economy? How many medical meeting he had in order to ward off the plandemic scam? How many infrastructure related meetings Potus held? All of these can be considered critical state knowledge that is kept secret, mostly from the enemy = people whom want to harm us.

So saying that Raziel wrote ALL of the secret knowledge, it makes me think that Raziel was some type of scribe, assistant, secretary or someone whom transcribed such information. He was not very high ranked as to sit on the council and take part of the decision making: he was not the top, but he was high enough to be able to enter that meeting room and be present when these high decisions were made. He also had access to library and/or archive as part of his work as assistant/scribe/secretary. In other words, he had ACCESS to all sort of technological manuals, including military technology = the armors (it’s a very high possibility) and he also had access to the ancient state of affairs of the kingdom. We don’t know exactly what Raziel wrote in THAT book of his, but we can be certain that whatever he wrote in it, it was of interest to him, his big boss and (((their))) cause = the cause of the coup plotters. I said many times this coup didn’t happen in a blink, but this was planned and carefully crafted for a long time where loads of information was gathered, information of all sorts necessary for the coup.

Of course Raziel didn’t use a pen and a paper to write everything down because back then the technology was sooooo advance, they probably had some type of super computers or something similar to an A.I.

Anons may think this is farfetched, well, I would like to remind anons that our current day tech is due to the reverse engineering the Bloodlines have been doing of the Ancient technology. We still have a long way to go before we reach where that Ancient Civilization was long ago. I also keep on talking about electricity this and electricity that…what do we use electricity for? = for machines to work, right? = to power up machines.

Now to the next part of the sentence: “considered to be a book of magic” – what is magic to the ancient ones? = I mean to the first few generations/descendants of the Flood survivors?

The ones whom used to live in Ancient Atlantis and survived the Flood know what this technology is and how to use it. Just like me, I know how to use a mobile phone, right? But if a Cataclysm occurred and most was wiped out, there were a few survivors, and those survivors had children whom never saw machinery before….then…won’t they consider this specific machinery =technology as magic and magical tools?

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166ce9  No.14221538

>>14221517

(Please read from the start)

The young generations don’t know what it is, nor do they understand how it functioned, nor do they understand how electricity works. The next generation after the Flood, will only live on the tales told by their surviving parents and never see an I-phone work because there would be no cell towers or electricity around, right? Well, maybe not immediately the next generation after the Flood, I mean the survivors could teach their direct descendants mostly if the battery is solar powered and all of that…. But after some time, the machinery will wear off as well as the knowledge to use them will be forgotten; and what they really are, will fade away and die…and people will consider them as magic or supernatural things. They will see a shiny object instead of a mobile phone. They will see it as an object that miraculously emits light on its own in a fantastic way but they will not understand what it really is, nor how it functions. I hope my point is clear = what I’m trying to explain is clear.

So, for the descendants of the coup plotters this knowledge is magical because it contained marvels after-flood people never saw, nor did they know they existed. It’s like putting the manual of a super computer in the hands of a person whom cannot read and write, and then ask him to decipher it, understand it, then reconstruct the machine. This is the situation we have on our hands.

This book of secrets contained many types of information, including technological stuff that looked like magical, supernatural, fantastic to the descendants of the Flood survivors….but not just any Flood survivors….this was passed on to the Bloodlines = Kabbalah, as in the descendants of the coup plotters. So it means one member (at least) from the Evil clans wrote on “paper” what was inside a computer which survived the cataclysm = he wrote down the information stolen and stored inside a computer on paper after the cataclysm, because there was barely any electricity left for the computer to function. That book was secretly transmitted to the next generations of the Bloodlines.

I wonder if that book in question is not the famous book of the Bloodlines, rumored to have been written by the blood of sacrificed people. Why am I thinking of this? Because there was no paper nor ink after the Flood, so where did they get the paper and the ink to write the knowledge inside the computer? The “paper” was actually skin from animals…but seeing how twisted and psychotic the Bloodlines are, I say they used human skin, tanned them and turned them into material to write upon. As for the ink = it’s human blood. Human blood is hard to wash away and the traces survive with time. If these suspicions of mine are correct, then the coup plotters transmitted ancient traditions, technology manuals and other type of information (including medical one) to their descendants after the Flood by using human skin for papers and human blood as ink to write it all down.

Only really sick people do such a thing. We saw the petroglyphs many times in this thread from all over the places we visited so far. See how normal people tried to preserve ancient knowledge and how the Bloodline did it? The difference is huge. I think now the first sentence is explained very well and the picture is clear for anons.

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166ce9  No.14221569

>>14221538

(Please read from the start)

Let’s check the second sentence: “He stands close by God's throne, and therefore hears and writes down everything that is said and discussed.”

The first thing that popped out is the word “STAND”. Raziel didn’t sit, but stood in the same space as the throne of God. Doesn’t an assistant stand during meetings and run in every direction to provide the adequate document necessary for the meeting? We’ve seen this sort of behavior so many times in Hollywood movies of how the assistant or secretary scrambles to assist perfectly the boss when he is in a meeting. If Raziel was one of the decision makers = one of the kings or queens Sebetti, he would be sitting during the council meetings and not standing.

When it is said that Raziel stands close by God’s throne…since this book is from the Bloodlines “literature”, it makes me wonder which god (((they))) are talking about. (((Their))) god or our Heavenly Father? Does this sentence mean Raziel was some sort of assistant to (((their))) god? = as in the Fallen one, the Evil One? If this was the case, then, it makes sense that he wrote his knowledge after the flood and handed that knowledge over to the descendants of the Evil One and the other coup plotters. Raziel was most probably one of the coup plotters, as in one of the 72 mentioned in helping Seth kill Osiris.

The rest of the sentence confirms what I’m saying:

He “hears” = he is present in the room, within sound reach, and can clearly hear everything said, not fragments of it.

He “writes down everything” = isn’t that the job of a scribe, a secretary or a person whom write transcripts of a conversation?

He writes down everything “that is SAID and DISCUSSED”: the last 2 words mean meetings are taking place and decisions are being made. And this is done near the Throne of God. So it’s a place where state affairs are discussed in a meeting or a gathering of the some people that sit = kings and people whom stand = assist the royal in their work.

The third sentence: “He purportedly gave the book to Adam and Eve after they ate from the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil (that resulted in their expulsion from the Garden of Eden) so the two could find their way back "home" and better understand their God.”

I interpret this as Razien knowingly, intentionally gave the book he wrote to the descendants of the coup plotters = the Bloodlines after (((their))) ancestors “ate” the forbidden fruit = what is the forbidden fruit? It’s a grand mystery, just like the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Sometimes I wonder if the “forbidden fruit” is not the incestuous relationship between the Evil One and the Evil Lady: as in if they were not siblings whom committed the horrible act of having sex together and children were born from that act. Or was the forbidden fruit something even more horrible than incest, like maybe cannibalism = eating, consuming human flesh?

It’s because of something horribly wrong that the couple was “kicked” out of the Garden of Eden. Raziel gave the descendants of the Evil couple and their descendants, whom also practice incest, a book, which allows (((them))) to return “HOME”. What does the word home mean? Is it Atlantis? Or is somewhere out in the Universe, beyond the Stargate? Since everyone living in Atlantis was a child of the Sun, as in they all came from the Sun; so which home is this referring to.

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e3b824  No.14228983

>>14221569

(Please read from the start)

Again, which god are we’re talking about here? Is it the Bloodlines’ god? If we follow the meaning of the entire sentence, then the answer is a yes. Here we are talking about the god of the Bloodlines: I call him the Evil One. Then, what does it mean that the book helps to better understand the Evil One? Does it give us an insight of his teachings? His plans for the coup? His doctrine? Is it his biography? Does it give a detailed description of his physical features or maybe about his habits, likes, routines, thoughts, beliefs….and even his sickness…that illness of his that he was born with, it didn’t show up at first, but after a while it appeared = He became Evil.

The next sentence is extremely tricky: “Raziel's fellow angels were deeply disturbed by this, and thus stole the book from Adam and threw it into the ocean.”

Whom are the “fellow angels” of Raziel? Are they the other co-conspirators participating in the coup? Or are they talking about the good warriors from the other clans whom fought to stop the coup? From the sound of it, here, it’s option 2. It looks like the warriors of the Light tried to put a stop to this just like I’ve said about the ThunderBirds leading the charge in the fight that occurred after the death of the King of kings; a charged that had the Queen of queens as it’s leader. And just like what (((they))) did to Osiris, here, (((they))) are making it sound that Raziel is good and the “fellow angels” are bad. But as I’ve said before: when it comes to (((their))) writings, the meaning should be taken in a 180 degrees way; not as it is. If (((they))) say black, then it means white; left then it means right; up then it means down etc.

Whatever that book is, it fell into the ocean = vast amount of water. Notice how the word ocean is chosen instead of sea? All of that water reminds me of the Great Flood. Are (((they))) saying that some important information “container” (either it’s really a book or a computer or anything that contains information = knowledge) fell into the Flood waters as in was lost somewhere under the water?

The next sentence is a hard: “God Himself decided not to punish Raziel, but instead retrieved the book by means of the angel Rahab and returned it to Adam and Eve.”

Which god we are talking about again here? Of course he will not punish Raziel since this one worked for him or with him. So the descendants of the Evil One retrieved the book through Rahab. But whom is Rahab? Or….should I say….WHAT is Rahab? There are many explanations given in Judaism to Rahab; one of them is that Rahab is actually the land of Ancient Egypt.

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e3b824  No.14228999

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>>14228983

(Please read from the start)

I guess we can sit down and discuss in length the meaning of each, but…I’m inclined to go with Rahab is the land of Ancient Egypt. I am inclined, but not a 100% sure. See, I don’t interpret Rahab as an Angel but as a place. And the reason I do that is because of some “hints” I’ve gathered in this thread. Now hold that thought about Rahab being Ancient Egypt and let me bring forward the other puzzle pieces to put this together.

Piece 1: We already know from page 198, that Ancient Egypt’s land was actually part of the Kingdom of Atlantis territory. And I can consider the existence of the pyramids in Giza plateau as proof of these words, right? = Ancient Egypt being part of Atlantis territory.

Piece 2: In page 150, I put a link to an article talking about tunnels/chambers/underground complex under the Sphinx of Giza plateau. I couldn’t find in which page I put it, but I’ve posted before a link to a video where they say in it that there are tunnels under the Sphinx with the walls covered with epigraphic texts = written on stone. But no one has ever seen them (outside the fox guarding the hen house) and it’s mysterious as to why this was never made public and the Egyptian gvt denies everything related to this issue.

I know some anons will say these 2 pieces are not solid evidence but just assumptions and rumors. Well, I say you are right, but let me remind you that geology and geography do not lie. Those whom have been reading this thread from the start already know that Ancient Egypt looked totally different from what it is now. It had lagoons, luxuriant dense tropical forests and it was attached to what is known the Arabic Peninsula as in there was no such thing as the Red Sea.

Piece 3: Then the Cataclysm occurred and we know starting from page 226 that a huge rift happened (along with earthquakes and volcanic activity) which separated Ancient Egypt and what is now the Arabic Peninsula. What do you think happens when a HUGE amount of water came flooding inside the tunnel like shape of the Red Sea? Look closely how the Red Sea is shaped anons = it looks like a tunnel, doesn’t it? Apart it has no “top”= no roof = no upper cover. It’s identical to a huge open surface water drainage channel, isn’t it?

So image the quantity of water that rushed in that tunnel like shape, created by the rift. The water simply FLOODED the area = mostly the shores of the Red Sea as if filled it up. It came from the Indian Ocean and filled the rift to form the Red Sea.

I couldn’t find a video of what I wanted to show anons, as in a video of a natural occurrence similar to what I have in mind. Instead I found this clip from a movie dating back a few years. The idea behind it is the same despite the settings being different: Tunnel Flooding. It’s a much smaller scale but I think it will do the tricks to give a visual for anons.

Notice the details: from the sound, the water movements, how fast it’s rushing in, how it’s destroying everything in its path. Now imagine this happening in a much much bigger scale, like 10 thousand times bigger scale and it’s happening in the rift that became later on the Red Sea. It’s monstrous isn’t it? It’s a terrifying event. If anons still don’t understand how terrifying and horrible this was, all you have to do is watch the clips of the recent floodings taking place all over the world and multiply it by a 1000 to understand what happened with the Red Sea. Now I’m going to ask you hold that thought, that image in your head of the devastating huge flood, you are going to link it to what’s in the next pages.

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dc95ca  No.14229302

File: 9b86012ae75b322⋯.png (265.55 KB, 504x627, 168:209, Destruction_of_Leviathan.png)

>>14228999

(Please read from the start)

Piece 4: let’s check Rahab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahab_(Egypt)

“Rahab m.n. (Hebrew: רַהַב‎, Modern: Rahav, Tiberian: Rahaḇ, "blusterer" is used in the Hebrew Bible to indicate "rage, fierceness, insolence, pride") Rahab is the emblematic name of Egypt and is also used for the sea. In medieval Jewish folklore, Rahab is a mythical sea-monster.

Biblical usage

[…]

Creation narratives in Biblical texts

Before the Medieval adoption of "Rahab" to mean demon or sea-beast, the name also appears in Psalm 89: 5-12, Isaiah 51:9-10, and Job 26:12. Rahab, in these passages, takes the meaning of primeval, chaotic, multi-headed sea-dragon or Leviathan. It is often assumed that long before the Jewish mythos, the ancient Jews emulated the creation fables told by their predecessors The Babylonians, for example, told of a sky-god, Marduk, and a sea-goddess, Tiamat, battling for supreme power over the other gods, in the Enûma Eliš. It can be speculated these two characters in the Babylonian myth are parallel to the creation stories found in the Biblical passages containing the name Rahab.

Rahab as insolence or pride

[…]

Jewish folklore

In medieval Jewish folklore, Rahab (splendour) is a mythical sea monster, a dragon of the waters, the "demonic angel of the sea". Rahab represents the primordial abyss, the water-dragon of darkness and chaos, comparable to Leviathan and Tiamat. Rahab later became a particular demon, inhabitant of the sea, especially associated with the Red Sea.

Legacy

[…]”

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dc95ca  No.14229307

File: 0039c03407d568b⋯.jpg (263.75 KB, 800x1308, 200:327, Red_Sea_topographic_map_en.jpg)

>>14229302

(Please read from the start)

Piece 5: Red Sea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea

“The Red Sea (Arabic: ‎ Al Baḥr al aḥmar; Hebrew: Yam Soof ים סוף or Hayam Haadom הים האדום; Coptic: Phiom Enhah or Phiom nšari; Tigrinya: ቀይሕ ባሕሪ Qeyih Bahri; Somali: Badda Cas) is a seawater inlet of the Indian Ocean, lying between Africa and Asia. Its connection to the ocean is in the south, through the Bab el Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Aden. To its north lie the Sinai Peninsula, the Gulf of Aqaba, and the Gulf of Suez (leading to the Suez Canal). It is underlain by the Red Sea Rift, which is part of the Great Rift Valley.

The Red Sea has a surface area of roughly 438,000 km2 (169,100 mi2), is about 2250 km (1398 mi) long, and — at its widest point — 355 km (220.6 mi) wide. It has an average depth of 490 m (1,608 ft), and in the central Suakin Trough it reaches its maximum depth of 3,040 m (9,970 ft).

The Red Sea also has extensive shallow shelves, noted for their marine life and corals. The sea is the habitat of over 1,000 invertebrate species and 200 types of soft and hard coral. It is the world's northernmost tropical sea, and has been designated a Global 200 ecoregion.

[…]”

>> I’m going to skip the unnecessary parts.

“Names

Red Sea is a direct translation of the Greek Erythra Thalassa (Ερυθρὰ Θάλασσα). The sea itself was once referred to as the Erythraean Sea by Europeans. As well as Mare Rubrum in Latin (alternatively Sinus Arabicus, literally "Arabian Gulf"), the Romans called it Pontus Herculis (Sea of Hercules). Other designations include the Arabic: ‎, romanized: Al-Baḥr Al-Aḥmar (alternatively Baḥr Al-Qulzum, literally "the Sea of Clysma"), the Coptic Phiom nšari, ܝܡܐ ܣܘܡܩܐ Yammāʾ summāqā, Somali Badda cas and Tigrinya Qeyyiḥ bāḥrī (ቀይሕ ባሕሪ). The name of the sea may signify the seasonal blooms of the red-coloured Trichodesmium erythraeum near the water's surface. A theory favored by some modern scholars is that the name red is referring to the direction south, just as the Black Sea's name may refer to north. The basis of this theory is that some Asiatic languages used color words to refer to the cardinal directions. Herodotus on one occasion uses Red Sea and Southern Sea interchangeably.

The name in Hebrew Yam Suph (Hebrew: ים סוף‎, lit. 'Sea of Reeds') is of biblical origin. The name in Coptic: Phiom Enhah ("Sea of Hah") is connected to Ancient Egyptian root ḥ-ḥ which refers to water and sea (for example the names of the Ogdoad gods Heh and Hauhet).”

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033926  No.14236880

File: 19b794cfcd3def8⋯.jpg (932.95 KB, 2000x1334, 1000:667, Flooding.jpg)

File: fc0b134c9a7e0a7⋯.png (2.37 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, underwater_lava.png)

>>14229307

(Please read from the start)

“Historically, it was also known to western geographers as Mare Mecca (Sea of Mecca), and Sinus Arabicus (Gulf of Arabia). Some ancient geographers called the Red Sea the Arabian Gulf or Gulf of Arabia.

The association of the Red Sea with the biblical account of the Israelites crossing the Red Sea is ancient, and was made explicit in the Septuagint translation of the Book of Exodus from Hebrew to Koine Greek in approximately the third century B.C. In that version, the Yam Suph (Hebrew: ים סוף‎, lit. 'Sea of Reeds') is translated as Erythra Thalassa (Red Sea). Although reeds do not grow in the Red Sea today (reeds do not grow in salt water), Professor Colin Humphreys explains the discrepancy on the basis that a freshwater marsh of reeds could have existed around Aqaba.

The Red Sea is one of four seas named in English after common color terms – the others being the Black Sea, the White Sea and the Yellow Sea. The direct rendition of the Greek Erythra thalassa in Latin as Mare Erythraeum refers to the north-western part of the Indian Ocean, and also to a region on Mars.

[…]”

>> In other words we call it Red Sea for no apparent reason. We don’t know how the origin of the name is connected to red color, nor does it have any red sands or boulders on the edges, nor are there any types of trees or animals associated with red around it….and there are no historical events that link it to red color. Saying it’s because it’s pointing south…that doesn’t hold much, simply because whom decided South should be red and not green or purple? See what I mean? It goes back to (((them))) as (((they))) controlled such decision and chose the name….so why did (((they))) decide to call it RED Sea?

When we look at the map of the Red Sea, we notice it’s like a tube or a tunnel that has 2 antennas…making it look like a HORNED SERPENT with its long stretch shape like that, as if it’s a snake crawling it’s way upwards. Is this the REAL reason why (((they))) chose to name it Red Sea…Red being the color of the Evil One?

Since anons have now all the pieces of this puzzle in our hands, can you put it together?

Rahab is not an angel. Rahab is not a Sea monster (whatever it may be called = has different names). When you look closely how torrential catastrophic water violently enters a narrow tunnel or tube, the gushing, flooding water takes many shapes, including the one of a hydra like creature with multiple heads. When you think about it, the violence of the water also emits sounds, adding to the rumbling sounds as the earth is being split open as the rift is taking place….and since there is volcanic activity, we also might see lava at the bottom pouring out from both the rift and the volcanoes as the water is rushing violently on the surface. This effect, will give the water a reddish glow, won’t it? = is this how it got its name? Or is it named after the Evil One?

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033926  No.14236896

>>14236880

(Please read from the start)

Also the rushing water will behave like a violent BEAST, a monster which destroys everything in its path: fauna, flora and humans alike. It’s like the entire region is swallowed by the 4 elements of earth, wind, water and fire; truly an apocalyptic scene.

And since the rift took this long shape, like a tunnel, a tube or a snake….you can see it from above (if you have flying machinery) as a giant sea creature that is raging like a bull and devastating everything in its path. Which can be seen as a snake, dragon or a demonic entity due to the devastation it caused

The “book of Raziel” fell into the “ocean” does this mean the Indian Ocean flooded = engulfed Ancient Egypt, at least for some time? Which means at least part of Egypt, if not all of it, was underwater for some time, which is confirmed when we were taking a look at the Sphinx and how the entire Giza Plateau was underwater (Sphinx starting page 150).

There are water erosion marks in Giza, but not at Saqqara. This means the water reached Giza but not Saqqara ….but….did the water reach the Giza plateau from the Red Sea….or from somewhere else? From the evidence I collected in thread 4 = fossils and other evidence, it’s clear that it was the entire Mediterranean basin that was flooded by water, SEA water which brought Sea Life with it = aquatic life, it wasn’t just a huge amount of rain. So in other words, we have the Red Sea and the Mediterranean Sea both Flooding at the same time and splashing on the land around the water mass = submerging it. Did the Splash reach Saqqara? = Well, there is a high possibility that Saqqara pyramids were built AFTER the Great Flood occurred, explaining why there are no traces of water erosion on the pyramids there. When I look at the general picture, it’s like the entire African continent was shaking violently and loads of geographic changes were occurring.

What’s all of this got to do with the Book of Raziel and the sea monster? Well, remember that rumored chamber/tunnels under the Sphinx which supposedly contains Ancient knowledge engraved on the walls? If the entire area was submerged = then it means the Book = the knowledge on these engraved walls, FELL into the OCEAN = it was underwater ^_^ and it was much much later on, after the rift occurred that Rahab = either Ancient Egypt or the supposed gushing water of the Red Sea, gave it back….as in the water retreated and the Bloodlines managed to get (((their))) dirty hands on the information contained in these tunnels. What is amazing is the timing of this “folklore” story = “Medieval times” as in it seems, from the sound of it, it was during this time that the Bloodlines got (((their))) hands on the knowledge under the tunnels…when exactly I don’t know, maybe a few years or a few decades before Sefer Raziel HaMalakh was writen.

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033926  No.14238163

File: a927ede2cb2a075⋯.png (153.43 KB, 525x727, 525:727, Sefer_raziel_segulot.png)

>>14236896

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Raziel_HaMalakh

“Sefer Raziel HaMalakh, (Hebrew:ספר רזיאל המלאך, "the book of Raziel the angel"), is a grimoire of Practical Kabbalah from the Middle Ages written primarily in Hebrew and Aramaic. The Liber Razielis Archangeli, its 13th-century Latin translation produced under Alfonso X, survives.

[…]”

>> If interested anons can read the rest themselves but don’t forget, this is (((their))) book which IS part of Judaism. This is not exclusively Kabbalah, but Judaism as well. See what I mean when I say both are one and the same = 2 sides of the same coin. (((They))) trick you into believing there is a difference but the truth is, it’s one and the same; just different names used for the same thing.

And it makes perfect sense how it is said in the next sentence that this “book” was passed onto Enoch as in passed to the Kabbalah. So the question is how did Raziel transfer the information from a “computer” to what exactly? Is it really a book written by the blood of victims or is the book referring to the epigraphy under the Sphinx? Maybe it’s both. Maybe he Bloodlines got (((their))) hands on both “sources” and recognized that both are knowledge from Atlantis time, so (((they))) fused the information of both and created the Sefer Raziel. These people are crazy, so I’m expecting the unexpected from (((them))) and the most crazy scenario ever.

What comes next in the sentence: “who may have incorporated his own writings into the tome” makes it clear that Enoch got his hands on that book written in blood = we reverted back to talking about the book and stopped talking about the epigraphy under the Sphinx. And on top of everything Enoch added some stuff to that book. Which means Raziel isn’t the SINGLE author of that book, but there are many persons whom chimed in and with each generation segments were added to that book. This point actually correspond to the rumors about that book written with human blood = as in each Bloodline generation added (((their))) own chapters/history to that book.

Next sentence: “From Enoch, the archangel Raphael gave it to Noah, who used the wisdom within to build Noah's Ark.” This is pure fabrication because we already know that the Ark already existed and people = MANY people, not just Noah and his family, rushed in it when the Cataclysm occurred. This will be discussed later on when I reveal another big, important piece of the puzzle. For now, anons gotta realize that it was NOT Noah whom built that Ark with his own hands as claimed in the Old Testament, but the “ship” was already built and existed: it was built by the Antlantean Civilization; just like nowadays we have many ships built all over the world which anyone can embark on them if such a Cataclysm occurs. Atlantis had many ships, and this is just one of them.

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033926  No.14238213

File: 9ee3d1811dd2a15⋯.jpg (191.82 KB, 449x768, 449:768, Angel_Raziel.jpg)

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>>14238163

(Please read from the start)

The last sentence is: “The Book of Raziel was said to have come into the possession of King Solomon, and a number of texts claiming to be this volume have recently appeared.”

>> Abracadabra! A number of texts “suddenly” appeared recently. Incredible! No mention of where, how, why and whom found them, what are the circumstances of the discovery nor the context. Just take (((their))) word for it and mostly it’s connect to (((their))) Solomon meaning it’s connected to (((their))) precious little temple…that’s the seed (((they))) are planting in your mind. Because we are programed to immediately connect/ diverge our thoughts to the “precious little temple” when we hear the word Solomon. In other words (((they))) are using the brainwashing (((they))) put us under to trick us into believing the book of Raziel is a good book, a holy book. It is for (((them))) but not for us.

It’s clear that in this Wikipedia page we are talking about 2 very different and distinct ITEMS which contained Ancient Knowledge from a Lost TIME. But in a strange way, somewhere in the 13th century, one of the “smart” guys = thinkers of the Kabbalah merged the 2 items and started to point to them as a single object. The book written by blood and the epigraphy under the Sphinx became ONE. I think this is due that both fell into the hands of the Bloodlines and (((they))) merged them together.

This dig on Raziel made it very CLEAR that Judaism and Kabbalah are one and the same. Please go check everything back, re-read everything slowly. You will notice how they tell us in some of the Wikipedia pages related to all of this that book of Raziel is connected to Judaism while if we look around, we are being told that it’s connected to Kabbalah. It’s very inconsistent as to which the book of Raziel is connected to; the flip flopping = sometimes it’s Judaism, sometimes it Kabbalah, is not confusion or misinterpretation. It’s proof that both are the synonyms of one another = Judaism is synonym to Kabbalah if you want to put it that way. We have many words to call one thing = (((their))) cult/ religion. Different names pointing/ referring to the same thing = the religion established by the Evil One.

Also when we take a look at what little iconography there is of Raziel online. We notice he is depicted most of the time wearing RED or his clothes having reddish tones. He also holds sometimes a flaming sword, just how we know Seth’s spear used to have flames. And it happens to be Raziel’s sword in the first picture I’m attaching to this page, is depicted in a similar way, almost identical to what we see the Feline warrior holding (Cylinder Seal Imprint) on page 999. It just happens to be that way, right? ^_~

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033926  No.14238479

>>14238213

(Please read from the start)

I wanted to find a tiny bit more information about Raziel: https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/raziel

Most of what is written in this link is déjà vu, we’ve already seen it, but there are some additional interesting details; including the very clear, crystal clear connection between Judaism and Kabbalah = it’s one and the same.

“ Raziel

RAZIEL , an important angel who, according to his name, is connected with "the mysteries of God." In midrashic and magical literature he is mentioned only in sources going back to the esoteric teachings of the talmudic period, where he appears in three sources. When Moses is ascending to heaven in order to receive the Torah, he encounters on his way the angel Galliẓur ("he who reveals the hidden reasons of the Rock"; i.e., God), who is also called Raziel because he hears from behind the divine curtain all that is going to happen in the world, and this he reveals to Elijah, who "spreads the voice" over all the world. The angel Raziel also appeared to Adam three days after he had been expelled from paradise and had fallen into despair. Then Raziel revealed to him a magical textbook containing the mysteries of the workings of creation. This version of an old esoteric aggadah was incorporated into a collection of cosmological and angelological material culled mainly from the writings of *Eliezer b. Isaac of Worms and some other 13th-century kabbalists, and published in Amsterdam in 1701 under the title, "This is the book of the first Adam which the angel Raziel delivered to him," commonly called "Sefer Razi'el" (see below). It had a wide circulation, being reprinted nearly 40 times. The third source is the apocryphal Sefer *ha-Razim, known in manuscript form in post-talmudic times. This purported to be the book of mysteries which the angel Raziel taught to Noah in the year he entered the ark and which Noah later wrote down on tablets of sapphire. It is a handbook of magic, both Jewish and syncretistic, giving a detailed account of the angels in the seven heavens and the magical practices connected with them and their conjuration. Whereas the first part is of a strictly Jewish character, the magical practices contain strong pagan elements. In the opinion of the editor, Mordecai Margalioth (1966), the text goes back to the talmudic period, perhaps even to the earlier part, especially because of its close connection with some texts in the Greek magical papyri. The age of the book is still a matter of controversy. According to the Zohar, Adam received his book while he was still in paradise, and the angel Raziel was none other than the archangel *Uriel who revealed the deep mysteries of the Torah. The numerical value of the Hebrew name is 248, corresponding to the number of the positive commandments of the Torah and the name Abraham. The kabbalist Abraham b. Samuel *Abulafia used this name as a pseudonym in several of his books.”

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0b5788  No.14243482

>>14238479

(Please read from the start)

>> See what I mean when I say Judaism and Kabbalah are one and the same. Can you make the difference between the two? They are so intertwined that they merged; or should I say, they were NEVER SEPERATED: one lays on the surface, while the other lurks in the depths, but they are the same and one thing.

Magic…Judaism and Kabbalah BOTH STINK of magic and witchcraft and all of that stupid hocus pocus stuff. Why are (((they))) so obsessed with it in Judaism? Do you know that magic is associated with paganism and is totally rejected by the Christians because it’s considered associated with Evil and it peddles the agenda of Evil? Yet, magic is the best buddy of Judaism and Kabbalah. Honestly! There are some stuff so obvious, I don’t understand how the sheep blindly and willfully follow Judaism despite all the clear signs it is the religion of the Evil One = the Fallen One.

Why they say in this article that Raziel is an “important” angel? Important to whom? According to what? Why is he important? No answers at all. But when you look how important he is in Judaism and even more to the Bloodlines, you will understand that Raziel was of importance because he was on the side of the Evil One – some type of Lieutenant.

I think the picture is clear now for anons that Raziel, the darling book writer for the Kabbalah and Judaism, is a follower of the Evil One. He was probably one of the MAIN players in the COUP and most probably one of the 72 co-conspirators mentioned in page 838. We can add him to the list of bogus things (page 1 087) about Judaism. Judaism is nothing but fairy dust sprinkled on our eyes to make (((them))) look nice and good to the general public = accepted by the sheep.

I’m an old man and I’ve seen quite strange stuff in my life, mostly because of my work, so there are few things that manage to surprise me or I’m unable to “understand”. While looking for more information about Raziel, I encountered what I refer to as 3 “oddities” which I am a bit unable to comprehend.

One of them is this fan club type of page about Raziel – probably established like a fan club to the movie and/or the book series: https://shadowhunters.fandom.com/wiki/Raziel

Just remember this is from what looks like a fan club for the series. I’m going to skip the unnecessary parts and anons can use the link to read the full article.

“Raziel is the patron angel of the Shadowhunters.

Raziel is believed to hold the rank of archangel within the heavenly hierarchy. In Jewish mystical traditions, he is often called the Keeper of Secrets and the Angel of Mysteries. Within Shadowhunter society, Raziel holds a special, almost god-like role as their patron and creator.”

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0b5788  No.14243485

>>14243482

(Please read from the start)

I’m continuing from that silly fan club sire:

“History

Creating the Nephilim

What is known of Raziel's interaction with Jonathan Shadowhunter and the world's first Nephilim were based on translations of accounts supposedly written by David the Silent.

Shortly after 1000 AD, the Angel Raziel was called upon by a mortal named Jonathan, though some believe that Raziel was summoned by a warlock. Desperate to help save mankind (including himself and his companions: his sister Abigail and his friend David) from the scourge of demons traveling past the world's wards in an event referred to as the Incursion, Jonathan prayed for Raziel to save humanity, begged him to mix his blood with the blood of mortals in a Cup and create a race of warriors who would rid the world of demonkind. Raziel rose from Lake Lyn and, upon seeing that Jonathan's wish and vision for his world was pure and true, Raziel granted his prayer but told him that he would not involve himself with them any further. He gave Jonathan the Mortal Instruments and mixed his blood with Jonathan's blood in the Mortal Cup to use for the creation of a new race of demon-fighters.

Raziel had Jonathan to drink from the Cup and, upon doing so, Jonathan became the first of the Nephilim. Through this ritual, all Nephilim have a bit of Raziel's blood running through their veins. Raziel gave Jonathan the fitting name "Shadowhunter" as a symbol of his transformation and allowed him to use the Mortal Cup to create more Nephilim, all of whom, with the help of the Mortal Instruments, would be dedicated to the eradication of demons on Earth. Raziel also gave him the book of the Covenant, in which he inscribed Marks for their kind to use.

[…]”

>> Jesus Christ! This is the garbage (((they))) are putting in the brains of the youngsters. And on top of it all (((they))) are creating an alternative imaginary universe, a fantasy one for the youngsters, just like what (((they))) did with the Star Wars brainwashing and Harry Potter addiction. So now (((they))) pushing (((their))) beliefs about the Nephilim onto the young ones and making it all sound super cool. Don’t forget, the Nephilims are the good ones accoring to the Bloodlines. (face palm)

“Physical description

Raziel is human-like in figure, but so large that he can cradle three grown men in his palms. He has long silver and gold hair. His eyes are also gold with no whites or pupils. His white skin is covered in golden angelic Marks—both those familiar and unfamiliar (those not found in the Gray Book)—all of which move across his skin. As an angel, he has large golden wings, each feather of which contains a single golden staring eye. His face was described as both beautiful and inhuman.”

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0b5788  No.14243499

File: 33d1c2917de44e6⋯.png (975.13 KB, 800x1120, 5:7, Raziel_fan_art.png)

File: cbe59e154a4b932⋯.jpg (448.61 KB, 500x900, 5:9, CJ_Flowers_Raziel_Mortal_I….jpg)

File: 11a761473d9d782⋯.jpg (16.12 KB, 319x158, 319:158, Fleur_de_lis_lost_symbol_o….jpg)

>>14243485

(Please read from the start)

>> Now can anyone tell me why Mr Blondie here has “a single golden staring EYE” on each of his feathers? Hm! Where did I see this one before? Oh yeah! It was with the Seraphim (starting page 901), right? It made me chuckle when I read the height of Raziel in this fan club page. Well, the Heavenly warriors are big, bigger than us, but not that big. When the young man stands next to his guardian angel (or when he is hugged by him for comfort), the top of his head reaches the belt line of his guardian.

I’ve found a couple of pictures: the first one is a drawing done by a fan whom obviously read the description of Raziel in this fan club thingy. As for the second picture, it was taken from the site; I’m assuming it came from the author of the series as in part of the official merchandise and that marketing stuff. Notice what is written at the bottom: “Fleur de Lis – Flame of Power”. Wow! And which dynasty had the fleur de lis as their symbol? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

“The fleur-de-lis, also spelled fleur-de-lys (plural fleurs-de-lis or fleurs-de-lys), is a Lily (in French, fleur and lis mean 'flower' and 'lily' respectively) that is used as a decorative design or symbol.

The fleur-de-lis has been used in the heraldry of numerous European nations, but is particularly associated with France, notably during its monarchical period.The fleur-de-lis became "at one and the same time, religious, political, dynastic, artistic, emblematic, and symbolic," especially in French heraldry. The fleur-de-lis has been used by French royalty and throughout history to represent Catholic saints of France. In particular, the Virgin Mary and Saint Joseph are often depicted with a lily.

The fleur-de-lis is represented in Unicode at U+269C ⚜ in the Miscellaneous Symbols block.”

>> Do you remember Lili from page 1 037 – from the movie Legend (1985)? Or maybe Lily Potter, Harry Potter’s mommy ?– Please re-read comments on page 1 107 concerning Lili/Lily.

“Origin

[…]

Alternative derivations

Another (debated) hypothesis is that the symbol derives from the Frankish Angon. Note that the angon, or sting, was a typical Frankish throwing spear.

A possibly derived symbol of Frankish royalty was the bee, of similar shape, as found in the burial of Childric I, whose royal see of power over the Salian Franks was based over the valley of the Lys.

Another heraldic tradition, going back to at least the 17th century, identifies the emblem of the Childric as a frog or toad (crapaud) rather than a bee. Antoine Court de Gébelin writing in 1781 identified the toad as the emblem of the Ripuarian Franks, representing their origin from the marshlands.”

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0b5788  No.14243565

File: 8aaab23bcb80795⋯.png (1.61 MB, 1200x1695, 80:113, Coat_of_arms_of_Bourbon_dy….png)

File: fa163f9c3a38f31⋯.png (9.19 KB, 702x339, 234:113, fleurdelys_1.png)

File: 2ad567f5be9201c⋯.jpg (4.66 KB, 95x141, 95:141, tongues_fire_isolated_on_w….jpg)

>>14243499

(Please read from the start)

"Astonishingly, it is thought that the Bee was the precursor to the Fleur-de-lys; the national emblem of France to this day. The theory is supported by many, including the French physician, antiquary and archaeologist Jean-Jacques Chifflet. In fact Louis XII, the 35th King of France, was known as ‘the father of the pope’ and featured a Beehive in his Coat of Arms. Disappointingly, his efforts to have the Bee adopted as the Republic’s official emblem were rejected by the National Convention due to their belief that “Bees have Queens”. Nevertheless, the Bee remained a prominent element of French culture throughout the First and Second Empire (1804 to 1814, and 1852-1870) due to the enthusiastic patronage it had previously received." - by ANDREW GOUGH August 2008.”

>> I personally don’t care which possibility it is because every single one leads back to the Franks which were the ancestors of the Merovingian Dynasty.

“Ancient usages

It has consistently been used as a royal emblem, though different cultures have interpreted its meaning in varying ways. Gaulish coins show the first Western designs which look similar to modern fleurs-de-lis. The East it was found on the gold helmet of a Scythian king uncovered at the Ak-Burun kurgan and conserved in Saint Petersburg's Hermitage Museum.

There is also a statue of Kanishka the Great, the emperor of the Kushan dynasty in 127–151 AD, in the Mathura Museum in India, with four modern Fleurs-de-lis symbols in a square emblem repeated twice on the bottom end of his smaller sword.

[…]”

>>Then in the Wikipedia page it goes to say that the Fleur de Lys was the symbol of French Royalty etc.

Why in the picture of Raziel from that Fan club link was the Fleur de Lys called “Flame of Power” as in LiLi = Flame and she had the power? Is this referring to the Evil Lady Sebetti? The one whom was pure and innocent at first but was then seduced by the Evil One and she joined him and became his partner in the coup? Is this her real name? Was she the Antelope Sebetti? Or the Serpent Sebetti? Does her weapon emit FIRE? Or is this referring to the FIRE of Love she felt for the Evil One? Was Raziel her assistant/secretary/vassal? Loads to think about here, as anons can see.

But….what does a fleur de Lys really mean? Is it a bee re-shaped as it’s hinted or….? Or does the fleur de lys represent flames shaped like tongues as seen in the picture I’ve attached? Do we have a similar case here with Lightning? I mean we’ve already seen Lightning depicted in the form of snake/serpent in Ancient Egypt because of the similar shape both have. So is the fleur de Lys in the same situation as the Wedjat? As in the flower of Fleur de Lys = Lili, could be a symbolic representation of the Flame belonging the Evil Lady. It also reminds me of that floating flame in midair we see between the horns of Baphomet (picture of Hell boy page 1 040). I’ve been going back a forth a lot anons about the genders of the Antelope and Serpent Sebetti. I know I have one queen and one king = Antelope and Serpent…but…which is which?

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0b5788  No.14243586

File: 21618ed9fa2251a⋯.png (50.09 KB, 920x800, 23:20, png_transparent_black_logo….png)

File: 140a529dc12a654⋯.jpg (76.16 KB, 1893x2048, 1893:2048, Altered_Raziel_Symbol.jpg)

File: 87882699abf1d5b⋯.jpg (86.89 KB, 1893x2048, 1893:2048, Fleur_de_Lys_on_top_of_Raz….jpg)

>>14243565

(Please read from the start)

Inspired by the iconography of Baphomet, what I did next is take the symbol of Raziel from the movie and I added a flame on top of it for a first try. It does look like the head of Baphomet depicted in a symbolic way, doesn’t it?

As a second try, I did something else: I altered a bit Raziel symbol by enhancing the upper part of it and diminishing the size of the lower part. Looking at it this way, a tiny bit altered, it looks more and more like Baphomet = Antelope head with a flame between the horns – drawn in a symbolic way of course.

A strange idea occurred to me: why don’t I try to put on top of the modified Raziel symbol the shadow of the Fleur de Lys? And this is what I did. I was terribly surprised to see that the shadow of the Fleur de Lys overlaps ALMOST perfectly with the SHAPE of Baphomet head with fire between the horns.

Now we have many options as to what the Fleur de Lys could mean: what was said in the Wikipedia page; then we have the Fleur de Lys looking a flame tongue; and lastly, the Fleur de Lys could be a symbolic representation of Baphomet head with the flames between the horns. No matter what it really is, every single option is pointing us back to the Merovingian Bloodline = the descendants of the Evil Couple and to (((their))) cult = Satanism.

It’s also very clear that Raziel is part of the coup plotters as in he is part of the evil warriors, that’s why I said he is a Horned Serpent warrior or from that clan. I’m using that to point that he is an evil warrior = the words of “Horned Serpent”. I don’t know if Raziel belongs to the Serpent Sebetti clan or the Antelope Sebetti clan. I know it might be a bit blurry, unclear or confusing to some readers now, and anons would ask why is the old man still using the term Horned Serpent while he is unsure if Raziel belongs to the Serpent Sebetti clan…I will be explaining this when I reach the Serpent Sebetti, so I beg for your patience for now.

A few more details from that fan club page:

“Skills and abilities

• Archery: Raziel uses a bow with flaming arrows.

• Flight: Raziel is independent of gravity.

• Supernatural strength: Raziel possesses inhuman strength, demonstrated when he apparently flung a group of demons into space.

• Telepathy: Raziel possesses the ability to look into the mind and heart of the one who summoned him, as he was able to quickly deduce Valentine's true desires as a corrupt Shadowhunter and see what he had done.

• Wish granting: Any Shadowhunter that summons Raziel can place their name in a rune. By doing so, they can compel Raziel to grant one wish. The limitations of this is unknown, as he was shown to even be capable of bringing back the dead.”

[…]

Etymology

Raziel (Hebrew: רזיאל) is an Aramaic name meaning "God is my secret", or "Secret of God".

Raziel is based the archangel Raziel within the teachings of Jewish mysticism.”

This is all for this fan page.

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de0e8c  No.14250599

File: 84d76ffed618a5c⋯.jpg (174.83 KB, 800x804, 200:201, Raziel_game_cover.jpg)

File: eba2b75ca34b842⋯.jpg (425.67 KB, 1770x1140, 59:38, raul_alves_raziel4.jpg)

File: 1a9eff047d5a4ed⋯.jpg (61.25 KB, 529x799, 529:799, Raziel_Vampire_Video_game.jpg)

>>14243586

(Please read from the start)

The second “odd” discovery for me about Raziel was him being a persona in a video game or whatever those games are called nowadays: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raziel_(Legacy_of_Kain)

“Raziel is a fictional character and a main protagonist in the Legacy of Kain video game series. Introduced in 1999 as the lead and playable character of Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, he was created by Amy Hennig, Seth Carus and Arnold Ayala of Crystal Dynamics. He reappears as the protagonist of Soul Reaver 2, and returns as a playable character alongside series eponym, Kain, in Legacy of Kain: Defiance, which closes his story arc.

Portrayed as a tragic hero, Raziel is described as an "ex-vampire" or "wraith". First appearing in Soul Reaver as one of Kain's lieutenants, he is executed after surpassing Kain, but is resurrected by The Elder God as a reaver of souls, bent on avenging himself by slaying his brethren and former master. Over the course of this journey, his history is revealed in reverse, and his motivations and loyalties gradually change as he unearths the truth behind his cyclic destiny.

Raziel's story and appearance were inspired by several influences, including the 1920 silent film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, John Milton's Paradise Lost, and the Hindu god Vishnu. Outside of the main series, he has featured in two tie-in comics, and in Crystal Dynamics' Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light. In all of his voiced appearances, he has been played by Michael Bell. Video game critics and players have reacted positively to his character, praising his design, backstory and development.”

>> Wow! He was a lieutenant of KAIN in this game but he surpassed him, was executed only to be resurrected by the Elder God (whatever that is). Look at all the juicy tunnels we have in those books and movie to dig into. I’m not going there, but if anons are interested, they can go down that path to find more information about Raziel.

“Concept and creation

[…] Dozens of sketches were produced to shape his final design; the Hindu god Vishnu provided the basis for his blue color, and his wings were intended to evoke those of fallen angels.

[…]. In the series' fictional universe, he is described as an "ex-vampire", a "wraith", and a "devourer of souls",characterized by his skeletal figure, brown cowl, tattered wings and tridactyl claws and feet. Throughout the games, he is required to consume souls to survive, travels between two planes of existence (the material and spectral realms) to solve puzzles, and wields the wraith-blade—a ghostly version of the Soul Reaver, an ancient sword inhabited by a sentient spirit. The design of his human incarnation in Soul Reaver 2 was inspired by the Roman era. According to Hennig, Raziel's role in the story conforms to that of a tragic hero. […]. In Soul Reaver, Raziel is depicted with aspects of both villainy and heroism, and in Soul Reaver 2, Hennig deliberately portrayed him as "kind of a self-righteous little twit" with a lot to learn.”

>> Why is Raziel projected as a Fallen Angel? I thought he was a good angel according to Judaism. If Raziel was one of the Fallen Angels, doesn’t that make him a follower of Satan? But wait once more, I thought he was a good angel according to Judaism. (face palm). Do you see how it works anons and how (((they))) play with your mind, manipulating you by using your faith and giving you only smoke and mirrors to hide the truth right under your nose? Also just take a long good look at the description of Raziel, mostly his wings, he is a Vampire = sucks blood, his feet and that sword of his. It all fits with what I’ve been talking about when it comes to the Atlantean warrios belonging to the 7 clans. Where do you think these big companies of games and novels get these ideas from anons? Where do they get such description and information to make story characters out of them? Also did anyone notice how in this game they are mixing the villain image and the hero image in Raziel so that they can play with your mind and make you see him as cool = this way the villain becomes a hero in the mind of the ones playing this game. (((They))) are doing an excellent work in distorting the truth.

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de0e8c  No.14250626

File: 4509b7a29d5ec73⋯.jpg (5.76 KB, 183x275, 183:275, Lucifer_poster.jpg)

File: 6ad62c5ada373c1⋯.png (228.18 KB, 740x369, 740:369, Raziel_Lucifer.png)

>>14250599

(Please read from the start)

The last oddity is another type of fan club/page or whatever these things are called. It’s about a series on tv called Lucifer. I’ve never watched it, but some of the details caught my attention and of course there is a Raziel in it as well: https://lucifer.fandom.com/wiki/Raziel

“Raziel is an angel and one of Lucifer Morningstar's siblings.

[…]

History

Raziel was one of the many angels born to God and Goddess predating the Big Bang.

In "A Chance At a Happy Ending", Raziel is one of the angels that immediately supports Michael's aspiration of becoming the new God. She works as Michael's henchwoman but is conflicted on account of the violence she is asked to perpetrate, and Michael's disdain for their other siblings and for humanity. When Zadkiel turns on Michael and supports Lucifer as the next God, Raziel turns to support Lucifer as well, before being scared into again supporting Michael. After Michael's defeat by Lucifer, Raziel, like the other angels, bows to Lucifer and accepts him as the new God.”

>> Notables:

1 – Big Bang.

2 – Raziel is a female, a henchwoman

3 – Raziel is a flipper- easily switching sides – reminds me of Ea.

4 – Michael is portrayed by the Bloodlines in the same way Osiris is = Evil. While Lucifer is portrayed in the same way Seth is = Good. This is how (((they))) reverse everything and (((they))) project (((their))) crimes and sins onto others, mostly the good warriors, just to paint them in a dark light. (((They))) did the exact same thing to Potus for many years now and this is proof this is (((their))) method and tactic (((they))) developed from before the Great Cataclysm.

“Powers

Angel Physiology: As an angel, Raziel has their powers, as well as their weaknesses.

• Superhuman Strength: Raziel, like all angels, has immense levels of superhuman strength and can exert, lift and carry an unbelievable amount of force and mass.

• Superhuman Speed: Raziel, like all angels, has tremendous superhuman speed, she can appear and disappear much faster than the human eye could see.

• Superhuman Reflexes: Raziel, like all angels, has incredible superhuman reflexes, and react, dodge, or catch incoming damage at immense speeds.

• Immortality: As an angelic celestial being, Raziel is immune to age, having lived since the beginning of creation, and is also impossible to harm by any means which can kill or injure mortals easily.

• Flight: Raziel, like all angels, can fly via wings at high speeds. She can use her wings to travel between Heaven, Hell and Earth."

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de0e8c  No.14250631

File: 73e0a5ec5ff2eaf⋯.jpg (53.27 KB, 740x370, 2:1, Lucifer_Michael_Archangels.jpg)

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>>14250626

(Please read from the start)

When we read about his height and the other physical features, doesn’t it remind you of what I was talking about with the Giants from the Andean Region. And it’s the perfect characteristic of an Atlantean warrior. A warrior belonging to one of the Sebetti clans: Super speed, super strength, combat agility etc. This is exactly how I imagine them to be during combat and it fits perfectly with the description given to us in the Epic of Erra (page 789) = Champions without Peer – and the top of the top among these warriors were their leaders = their king & queens.

“Weaknesses

• Demon Daggers Forged In Hell: Demon Daggers are able to lethally harm all angels.

• Other Supernatural Beings: Like all other angels, Raziel can be killed by other supernatural beings, which includes other angels and demons.

• Self - Actualization It is mentioned throughout the series that all angels are able to self-actualize, which results in their judgements manifesting as psychosomatic changes, as shown with Amenadiel losing his wings. Raziel should be vulnerable to this weakness just as any other angel.

• Flaming Sword: Raziel can be eradicated with Azrael's Blade or the completed Flaming Sword, as shown with Remiel and Uriel's deaths with the sole blade.”

>> I think all of those “details” and information about Raziel and such entities are the knowledge passed down by the Bloodlines and in Judaism = it’s one and the same, But the trick is that we are seeing such entities from (((their))) perspective, so we need to be extra careful and take the information we’ve got with a huge grain of salt.

I went to take a quick look at the pictures from the series. Well, the first thing that caught my eye is the color red from the poster of the series. Anons know what these symbols now mean in this thread, so I’m not going to re-explain everything, but simply point out to them from now on. I will only explain and/or link the new things I encounter.

As I was looking at the pictures I noticed this one where the “Angel” was much bigger = taller than the average human standing next to him. I didn’t watch the series, but I’m wondering if this is how the Angels are depicted in it = as being taller than the average human. If someone watched it, and can confirm, it would be great to know.

We also have Lucifer brandishing a flaming sword. I’m unsure since I didn’t watch the series nor do I care to read the plot, but I think he is decapitating Archangel Michael: a nice fantasy of (((theirs))). This is what (((they))) wish would happen. If you look closely at the “general” standard, over all iconography of Archangel Michael, the usual, classical one; he is always depicted wearing an armor, with white wings, is blond and is brandishing a flaming sword, while ready to decapitate Satan upon whom’s neck he is stepping while chaining him down. Or sometimes it’s like Archangel Michael is casting him down = pushing him down while both are kinda floating in the air. Satan is depicted in a dark way, with horns a forked tail, bat like wings while he is crushed and defeated by Archangel Michael. Here, from the few pictures I’ve seen, it looks like (((they))) reversed the roles and decided to project (((their))) little fantasy of defeating the Archangel.

Then I found this awesome picture of many angels from the series. Just look at the feathers of the wings. Seems like we have a very nice collection of different Birds of Prey feathers, don’t we?

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0586f8  No.14257925

>>14250631

(Please read from the start)

I don’t know if I want to laugh or I want to cry after reading what is written in these 3 oddities I stumbled upon. Which is the true nature of Raziel? Is he a baddie or a goodie? If anons compare what is written about him in Judaism, what the Kabbalah says and ….these “pop” cultures we have of him, what picture is projected of Raziel? On which side do you see him standing? For me, he is part of the coup plotters, one of the 72. And then here comes the big question: why do they make him a good guy in Judaism? = it’s because they know whom he is in Judaism and Judaism is not what we are told it is.

Since I’ve finished with this tunnel, I’m going to rewind to page 1 033: I finished with the Ram Sebetti and it seems I’ve finally figure out the 6th Sebetti as being the Antelope Sebetti. We have 3 different types of horned Sebetti: Lamassu, Ram and Antelope. I think all 3 have their horns as their strong point = weapon.

From the looks of it, with what I’ve got so far, the Ram Sebetti, the Antelope Sebetti, the Feline Sebetti and the Wolf Sebetti are all ground troops: each is specialized in a specific aspect with the possibility of some having a few common points with other clans. Some specialized with long range attacks like archers, while others specialized with close combat = like hand to hand combat where blades were used. While there are also some whom were specialized in both far and close combat = double.

The Wolf Sebetti also has his own flavor. He is different from the others with his inclination towards science, medical field and technology. I see him in a duel function: he is a combat warrior but in the same time he also handles technical stuff of the armors and machinery and other stuff related to science. It’s like he is some type of warrior, doctor, engineer and mechanic all the in same time. Does that make sense to anons? Well, it’s a bit hard for me to explain this with what little I have of the Wolf Sebetti clan for now. It would be wiser to collect more information and be sure this is the case and I’m not going down the wrong path there.

6 - The last Sebetti to check is the Serpent one. If I rely on what I see on bronze Plaque from Hell, it’s clear, the Serpent Sebetti depicted on it has no wings, no horns, no long tail; just a serpent head shape. It’s not the description that we got from the Native American legends. And it’s not what we see in different artifacts worldwide with the Serpent mostly having horns and wings. And it certainly isn’t anything like the Tetra-morph; Multi-morphs = Seth, Lamashtu, Humbaba etc. we’ve seen in this thread. So how can this be explained?

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0586f8  No.14258037

>>14257925

(Please read from the start)

Well, I’ve explained this before = it was stolen anons. If this bronze Plaque from Hell turns out to be a correct representation, an identical one to the Sumerian/Akkadian one (if it exists), then this is the real form of the Serpent warrior = no wings, no horns, no claws. The rest of the stuff we see on him are additions which the Serpent Clan STOLE and added, merged to their own armors. I think they picked the strong points in the armors of the other Clans and added them to their own in order to gain the powers of those other clans.

But before all of this started, I think there was an initial phase of merger. I talked about a king Sebetti having a forbidden relationship with a queen Sebetti before. I called them the Evil Duo composed of the Evil One (male) and the Evil Lady (female). Their relationship was sexual and deviant/perverted. They had common interests as in taking the throne = taking power. Him, becoming the King of kings, while her, becoming the Queen of queens. Everything started with him, but he somehow managed to find himself a partner, not just in crime, but a love partner in life. I think they were the Bonnie and Clyde of Atlantis, if you know what I mean there.

So they plotted together everything and started to recruit others. But they also helped one another in the big plan like sharing information, including the spying that happened, the sabotage they must have done to the other Clans.

When you think about it, the Serpent Sebetti Clan didn’t have to steal the technology of the Antelope Sebetti Clan. Since they were partners in crime and lovers, they simply gave one another their tech in order to make the armors worn by their warriors stronger than the rest. That was done with the intent to make them the strongest in order to defeat and crush the forces that will oppose them. And this how the Serpent got his horns = it’s the merger between the Serpent and the Antelope armors.

We also know that not all the Antelope warriors followed their Sebetti leader. Satis (starting page 1 015) didn’t reflect any “evil” intent or behavior. Only on page 1 017, we have a quick mention that Anuket worshipers had some type of “perverted” taste in sex, but it’s unclear and undetermined what those “perversion” are exactly nor what is this “taste” they are talking about in this Wikipedia page. This makes it a thin connection, not that strong.

I wish I had managed to find solid information about the “nature” of the Antelope Sebetti like I did for the other Sebetti Clans. Some were so easy to classify as good or evil. I think this is due to the merger of the Serpent and Antelope Sebettis. This is why I couldn’t find any details about the Antelope Sebetti evil behavior. It’s because after they merged, they formed a big group of the Horned Serpent warriors, regardless of which clan they belonged to originally = it’s like 2 squadrons fused together and formed one. So each time I said Horned Serpent this and Horned Serpent that…it was the warriors of both the Antelope and Serpent Sebetti clans merged as one army, one group of warriors.

The wings, the talons, the claws, the other 2 horns were added later on, gradually, as they were stolen from the other clans. I think the wings were the most important item to steal from the Lamassu and the ThunderBirds alike. Being able to fly, gives one a lot of advantages and it can be the winning factor during a battle. Which makes me wonder if the Serpent Sebetti armor wasn’t designed for underground battle?

The Serpent is a tricky animal: it can go into underground tunnels, crawl on ground and we even have some snakes that can swim or get on trees. But it didn’t have the ability to fly. Did this lacking ability made the Serpent Clan envious of those whom could fly? Was it a privilege to fly?

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34fcf1  No.14258109

File: 5b6d43f0b0b0fa7⋯.jpg (100.31 KB, 710x798, 355:399, 20210803_090626.jpg)

GUESSING this is why Anderson is liquidating assets

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9448f8  No.14266196

File: 036365b758c0150⋯.jpg (353.65 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Stun_Grenade.jpg)

>>14258037

(Please read from the start)

In one of her iconography, Neith was nursing 2 Nile crocodiles (page 1 027). I keep on wondering why is that? Do these 2 crocodiles represent 2 of her children whom committed incest? Are these 2 crocodiles her children whom tasted the forbidden fruit? = as in it’s the Evil Lady and the Evil One? Well, until now, I’m certain of ONE of the Evil Couple being the King and Queen’s child, but I’m uncertain about the other child, despite many hints pointing there was some type of incestuous relationship taking place, a secret one.

The weapon of the Serpent Sebetti is clearly something that has 7 dots and a lamp = I think this means the 7 blasters that are on his armor. But as we’ve also read mostly from the Native American stories, it’s highly possible the Serpent Sebetti also had “abilities” that could “petrify” his opponent = this has led me to suspect the usage of some type of poison. If it’s not poison, then I would like to ask the reader to propose an alternative to it = give another option. I couldn’t think of anything that can cause pain and petrification with just a scratch or a touch apart poison. Also poison can be used in the form of gas which can kill from a distant. The blasters can also blind the opponent even if they don’t hit target because of the light coming out of them. The blasters can work as a Stun/Flash grenade if they do not hit their target. As in, it can have the same effect as momentarily blinding an opponent to incapacitate him.

But we also know the Horned Serpent is the combination of both the Serpent and the Antelope armor, so this means they must have that beam that formed between the rods of the horns, just like it’s the case with the Lamassu and the Ram warriors.

Strangely, even merging both clan armors didn’t procure any military superiority to the coup plotters. And it also betrays how insecure and inferior they were or felt they were to the other clans combined. So they not just stole the wings and other tech, but they also stole the use of the Sharur weapon yielded by the ThunderBirds = that weapon Staff which emits electricity. This is why we see some Horned Serpents yielding the Sharur as well, or the other weapons. But I think it’s not that easy to simply swing or use such weapons, it needs practice and I think it needs a certain ability to do it.

Unfortunately it doesn’t stop there with the Serpent Sebetti merging with the Antelope Sebetti to form the Horned Serpent clan. They have what I can call as a mutated group to them and those are the multi-forms = like a sub-group.

When we go back and read everything written on the muti-morphs, from the Native American description, to Seth, to Pazuzu, to Lamashtu, etc. it’s incredibly hard to determine their original form at first because they are composites made of many animals = in the cause of our thread = made of stolen armor tech merged into one. I noticed that the helmets = animal head of the multi-morphs varies, but the other elements like the wings and the claws are mostly the same to most multi-morphs.

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9448f8  No.14266225

>>14266196

(Please read from the start)

Some had feline heads, other’s wolf heads. I kept on wondering why is that? Was it because of the sharp jaws of these specific animals? Or is it because these were actually traitors to their own clans? I’m inclined to this second option. I think the traitors in each clan kept the helmet of their original clan and added the “stolen” parts to it. So I’m inclined to think that the helmet is from the original clan these traitors belonged to before they became multi-morph armors. Of course this is just a theory for now, and it’s better to gather more information about this and keep track to see if there is a pattern here. So far, I have a few examples, so it’s not going to hurt to keep on watching and taking notes to see if the helmets change or not.

I don’t know how many readers are interested in the research about the 7 Sebetti clan warriors but for those whom are, I want to attract your attention that you can study this using maps. You need a world map and you need to give a color for each Sebetti clan. Then you mark the location where each type of warrior was found on the map. Like for example, the Lamassu warrior was found in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia so far; but we didn’t find any in the Andean region or in Mesoamerica. Anons should mark their presence in the locations they were found in with a specific color. And go on to do the same for the other Sebetti clan warriors. By doing so, we can have a world view where each clan warriors “landed”/ spread out after the Cataclysm occurred.

We also can take this a step further and see the percentage of warriors from each Clan in each region. Like we have zero Wolf Sebetti warriors in the Andean region, in Mesoamerica and in Mesopotamia, but we have at least 3 in Ancient Egypt. Does this mean the Wolf warriors were “wiped out”, most of them anyway? I would also like to remind anons that I haven’t dug deep into each region to check every little thing. So there might be Wolf Sebetti in the Andean region, Mesoamerica and in Mesopotamia; maybe I didn’t find them since I didn’t look too deep into all of this. So it’s better to check out deep and not in a quick way like what I did. I have no time anons to be that meticulous myself, I need to get the big picture out, so I’m only giving a few examples/samples. I’m sure the interested readers can “fine tune” such ends I’m leaving.

I’ve said all of this because I think it will be interesting to see which Clan was wiped out/ defeated by the Horned Serpent warriors and to find out how the warriors scattered worldwide, including the Horned Serpents. Well, maybe later on, if I have progressed enough and I have time on my hands, I think I will do this map myself. I will make my decision at the moment, if I find it’s useful for this thread or not. We’ll see.

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9448f8  No.14266232

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>>14266225

(Please read from the start)

The last thing I want to draw attention to when it comes to the Sebetti is a palette from Ancient Egypt called the Two Dogs Palette (starting page 118). Before I talked about that specific palette a bit, I want to remind anons that they can go back and re-check all the palettes (starting page 113) under the new light of information about the warriors and the Sebetti Clans. They will see them in a new light, like Narmer palette (starting page 122), with the Bull trampling an enemy = are you sure that’s a Bull or….? You see what I mean there? Look at the details, take your time, do not rush. Not all the palettes contain symbolic representations of the Sebettis, some do, while others don’t. It’s up to you. Consider it as a training exercise to identify the Sebetti clan warriors on artifacts.There are also 2 knife handles anons should take another look at: Gebel Tarif Knife Handle (starting page 140) and Gebel Al-Arak Knife Handle (starting page 137). Make up your own minds.

So let’s talk about the 2 dogs palette starting with the name = 2 dogs = 2 Canines = 2 Wolf Sebetti Clan warriors. A lot consider the scenes on both sides of this specific palette as being a HUNTING scene. Well, I don’t know if the word “hunting” truly fits here, but this is a battle anons. This is an ancient battle taking place on the soil of Ancient Egypt after the Cataclysm occurred. We’ve read the tales from the Native Americans on how the Horned Serpents and the ThunderBirds kept on battling for many years, so why not this happening worldwide?

This palette is obviously NOT a make-up palette or any other explanation given by the Main Stream History. This palette is decorated on BOTH sides so that BOTH sides would be SEEN. This is a historical record of a battle between the warriors of the Light and the warriors of Darkness.

I chose a color code in order to identify the type of warriors:

- Red = Feline Warriors.

- Blue = Wolf Warriors.

- Orange = Lamassu Warriors.

- Yellow = ThunderBird Warriors.

- Green = Antelope Warriors.

- Purple = Griffin Royal Warrior.

We also have some tricky animals:

- Beige = this one is either a Wolf or a Feline warrior, it’s a bit tricky because if you look closely we have many types of Canines and Felines.

- Pink = Unsure if it’s a Ram Sebetti Warriors or a type of Antelope Warrior because of the shape of the horns. If we look at the various types of horns the Antelope has, it’s a bit tricky.

- White = This one looks like Anubis as in a Wolf Warrior, but what’s amazing about him is he is standing upright and has a human body.

- Brown = Looks like a Giraffe but I’m unsure of it. It might be a vassal for one of the Sebetti clans or it might represent something else.

This is a general and “quick” view, of course this needs to be put under a microscope and examined deeper, better and further. I mentioned this just to bring attention of the reader on it. Sometimes things are right under our noses and we miss them if we don’t pay attention. I want to end it here with the 7 MAIN Sebetti clans and their weapons (FOR NOW). But I’m not quiet done talking about armors. I want to talk next about 4 additional, possible types of armors:

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549b06  No.14266695

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This is the old man,

Today, it was reported that a rocket was fired from Lebanon towards Israel and footage came out showing how terrified the “poor” Israeli are and showing the “horrible” damages caused by the rocket. I don’t know if I should laugh or if I should cry.

Today, exactly one year ago, Israeli war planes – caught on camera and seen by thousands of Lebanese eye witnesses – destroyed the port of Beirut with the assistance of local traitors. Today, is the anniversary of this horrible CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. And it just happens to be today, by coincidence, a rocket is fired from Lebanon towards Israel. This rocket fired today was done on PURPOSE by Israeli agents and/or Lebanese traitors. It’s not the first time Israel/Mossad use this method = they, themselves, fire a rocket from Lebanese soil and they accuse the Lebanese of doing it. This was done on purpose TODAY to DIVERGE attention but MOSTLY sympathy from the port of Beirut blast. They want the Sheep to feel SYMPATHY for the Jews instead of feeling sympathy for the real victims.

For those whom still push the narrative it was a Hezbollah ammunition warehouse. I pity you, I pity you so much. For the very few whom stand with the truth and justice, I say go dig. You will see the truth very easily if you dig. Look at the location and search for the “accords”/treaties. Potus, my silence is enough.

Beirut, you do not stand alone.

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206f5a  No.14274069

File: 36f6239c9d20738⋯.jpg (81.61 KB, 742x502, 371:251, medical_device_array.jpg)

File: 179de4ad5d25374⋯.jpg (126.62 KB, 674x1000, 337:500, Prometheus_Movie_poster.jpg)

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>>14266232

(Please read from the start)

1 – Aquatic Clothing: when taking a look at the movie Black Panther, I talked about the Shaman Zuri (pages 1 024 – 1 025) and I see a lot of similarities between the image projected by that movie character with the “Fish men” we’ve seen before in this thread:

- with the Native American totem pole (page 731).

- with Mesopotamia fish men reliefs including the second register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell where the fish men seem to be attending/taking care of a sick person, or at least praying for him (page 962).

- with the Paracas culture’s Orca geoglyph (page 383) where a fish man was standing in front of the Orca.

- with the Dogon, mostly the Nommo (starting page 215).

Anons will ask: like what? Well, like they are not warriors but more like healers and shamans = they combine religion with medical field, sort of. They have their own special “clothing” that looks like fish for some reason. Strange enough, it reminds me of Christ and his apostles, most were fishermen, right? It makes me wonder if this specific type of clothing the “shamans” had any “aquatic abilities”; like if they could breathe underwater wearing them, or if the clothing made them swim faster. But it’s impossible for me to figure it out and how it’s all connected to FISH design. That’s one secret of Atlantis that I’m still unable to understand.

Sometimes, we see them with their hands in front of them as if they are doing some type of gestures. What kind of gestures? Well, it could be blessing, or saluting… even praying. So far, this mystery is still on going.

Another thing is what they used for healing as in what they used to do to heal others. From what I have so far about them, it’s clear they do not use machinery or technology. We see them mostly holding some type of “bucket” with a handle along with what looks like a pinecone. It doesn’t seem like they used high tech, mostly surgical equipment (like nowadays x-ray machines, ventilators etc.) when it comes to medicine. It’s like technology was reserved for the Wolf Sebetti Clan. But if the Aquatic healers didn’t use technology = machinery to treat and heal people, so what did they use?

And what about the healing beds? If those healing beds (see page 207) existed and I think they did back then, then what is the need for these fish looking shamans? This is very bizarre for me because I don’t understand the dual function of religion and healers with the Aquatic clothing.

There is a series of movies called Alien dating back from 1979, in one of the sequels, the leading actress = Sigourney weaver, has an alien inside of her. She hops into a medical bed/pod and it scans her, revealing the alien inside her. That was in 1979….1979 anons. Do you realize what that means? How many times did we see such medical pods in movie for the last…20, 30 to 40 years?

In one of the prequel of the Alien series of movies, there is one called Prometheus and in it there is a scene where the leading actress enters a medical pod to remove an alien from inside her as well. I’m attaching the pictures of the movie poster and pod with this page, while I will attach the video with the next page.

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206f5a  No.14274110

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>>14274069

(Pleaser read from the start)

Usually when someone is looking at this clip from the movie, everyone focuses on the tummy and how the alien inside is behaving. No one truly pays attention to what the machine is doing. We also have the same thing with the movie Passengers: there the Medic Pod which is a tiny bit different, but when you notice the functions, it’s similar.

It doesn’t stop there: the medical pods we see in Hollywood movies don’t just do diagnosis, scans and surgeries, they also do something else; very different = Tissue reconstruction. This is totally mind blowing isn’t it? Just thinking that one of your arms is cut off and you can go have another one “reconstructed”… is this something similar to cloning? I’m not an expert in the medical field, but I know the Bloodlines have either reached such tech or are about to reach it = (((they))) are almost there. Don’t forget anons, (((they))) want immortality, or at least to live for a very long life.

This tissue reconstruction function of the medical pods is also seen in many Hollywood movies, including “the 5th element” and in another movie called Starship Troopers. Both movie pictures are added to the next page.

I see the Wolf Sebetti clan very easily fitting in the part of “expert” whom handles these Medical Pods or the Healing Beds. But then, where does the Aquatic healing Shaman fits in all of this? They are healers too, but they don’t use tech like the Wolf Sebetti, so how does this all fit together?

I see the Aquatic Healers as Spiritual Healers. Don’t go thinking this is none sense. If you want to understand what I’m saying here, then take a good long look at Christ. He healed many people through the power of the Holy Spirit. Even nowadays, worldwide Saints are healing physically people through the Holy Spirit. I believe those Aquatic Healers as this sort of Healers. How many Aquatic Healers were there? Were their numbers big? Or there were just a few of them? We don’t see them all over the place, so I’m wonder how widespread this was.

I’ve been lurking for some time online here and there for many reasons and I’ve noticed there is this talk about some crystals being used to heal people. I don’t know what to say about this, It’s new, even for me. This is a theory. I read, of course, it’s not certain.

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206f5a  No.14274135

File: 7d8d9feaf6efe99⋯.jpg (7.59 KB, 299x168, 299:168, Fifth_element_medical_pod_….jpg)

File: 8c4bf99ecf65059⋯.jpg (29.19 KB, 626x261, 626:261, tissue_5Element_.jpg)

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>>14274110

(Please read from the start)

When we read about the Mishipeshu (starting page 748) we discovered they were agile in the water or as they put it in the page = underwater. I still see the Mishipeshu as some type of lab created animal by the Evil One whom wanted to play God. But I’m wondering if there weren’t any real = human Horned Serpent warriors among them, living with them. Is that possible? Is it possible for warriors to live among some animals they created? I guess it’s possible, but it needs further verification. It might be something like hunters staying with their hunting dogs or a shepherd staying with his dog type of scenario.

Why am I talking about this? Well, it’s because of the swimming ability the Horned Serpent warriors seemed to have acquired. If some animals (((they))) created in a lab could swim with this agility, could the Horned Serpent warriors also have stolen “swimming”/ aquatic ability from the Aquatic Healers and incorporated it to their armor? The answer is yes. If (((they))) stole from the other clan their technology, nothing prevents (((them))) from doing the same to the Aquatic Healers.

What’s so important about the Aquatic Healers that the Horned Serpent had to steal their tech as well? I mean they are not fighters = warriors. The only thing that seem to have better than the other clans is their ability to swim with agility = as in they are water creatures, sort of.

I’m also wondering: whom could be the head = the leader of the Aquatic Healer? When we check all the archaeological artifacts, we don’t see a person standing out as their leader. There is no sign of any type indicating which one was their leader on the artifacts. It’s hard to see this section of the population = Spiritual Healers, without a head, a leader. Can you guess whom it is anons? I’ve been providing you the answer to this riddle from the get go in this thread. Think about it carefully. The answer has been in front of us from the start = it’s the King-Priest system. I don’t think it’s just any king, not a normal Sebetti king….but…it’s the King of kings whom was the top healer and the head of the Aquatic Healers = Spiritual Healers as well as the head of one of the Sebetti Clans. The King of kings had a double function of political and religious leader.

So here is the question: Did the 7 Sebetti: 5 kings and 2 queens have that special power of Spiritual Healing? For now, I don’t have much to go on with apart ONE point. I’ve got Neith/Isis/Baalat of Gebal/Hathor, but she doesn’t have any healing power. She is the Queen of queens = the wife of the Great King, and in the same time, she is the queen = the head of a Sebetti Clan = the Lamassu Clan, but when we read about her, there is no mention of her having any type of healing power. It’s thin, as in 1 out of 6 (I’m not counting the King of kings in this), but if the Queen of queens didn’t have Spiritual Healing powers, I don’t think the other Sebetti kings and queens did. I think this Spiritual Healing power was an exclusive power to the King of kings, just like the power of Fate and “vision” was exclusively that of the Queen of queens. I think each Sebetti has one special power that the others didn’t have. And this Spiritual Healing power was exclusively that of the King of kings = the one whom rules them all.

I guess this is it FOR NOW about the Aquatic Healers. Of course I will revisit this and reassess everything as I move on and find more information and details.

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003e89  No.14275080

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>>14274135

(Please read from the start)

2 – The Scorpion warriors: We’ve seen the Scorpion warriors before in this thread mostly in Ancient Egypt, with the Mace Heads (starting page 811) and Narmer’s palette (starting page 122). We know the Scorpion warriors also protected Isis along with baby Horus (page 852) when she was fleeing the wrath of Seth and his followers (page 851). We also have Scorpion symbol depicted on a palette as shown in the picture I’ve attached to this page. And of course, when taking a look at Bes, we saw the stereotyped iconography of young Horus hold Scorpions in his fists.

There is also this Ostraca discovered at Deir el-Medina on the West Bank at ancient Thebes (modern Luxor) where it is mentiond that workers bitten by scorpions, and therefore absent from work. But this Ostraca is from the Dynastic times. There are also Seals with Scorpions on them. This is to show anons know that the Scorpion was around from pre-dynastic times all the way till Roman times in Ancient Egypt.

All the pre-dynastic artifacts from Ancient Egypt gives us the impression the persons with the Scorpion symbol depicted next to them are warriors; as in they excel is fighting and on the battlefield.

We also saw the Scorpion before in Mesopotamia mostly with the relief of Nergal (page 790) where he is represented with a Scorpion depicted next to him. Nergal was a warrior as well, but one serving as a spy and serving the Evil One. But what is troubling is the Lady sitting on a throne next to him, whom also had a Scorpion depicted next to her. She is no warrior, but a noblewoman, and since she is sitting on a throne with Griffins on it, this means she is royalty. She breaks the exclusivity of Scorpion people being warriors.

This is why I’m leaning of the Scorpion Clan being a vassal of one of the Sebetti Clans. Of course there were traitors among the Scorpion Clan and Nergal is a very very good example of that. With Pazuzu (starting page 948) and the other multi-morphs we’ve seen some whom had a Scorpion tail mixed with their armor. Is this another piece of military technology stolen by the coup plotters and added to their armors? If you think about it, the Scorpion’s strong point is mostly its poisonous tail and we can add as a secondary, lesser point = its claws.

Anons already know that the Horned Serpent warriors had the ability to poison people = causing petrification. So….where did that ability come from? Was it part of the original Serpent Sebetti armor or was it added later on with the poisonous tail that was stolen from the Scorpion vassal clan? I don’t know, but it would be interesting to find out. I’m also interested into finding out which type of warriors the Scorpion troops were: were they land warriors or like the Serpent Sebettit warrior, underground type of warriors? Come to think of it, both Serpents and Scorpions live on the ground and under it. So maybe they fought on both = on the ground and under it.

I keep on seeing the Scorpion warriors as vassals to one of the major Sebetti Clans, but I am unable to figure out which one yet. This also leads me to think that there is more than ONE vassal Clan out there and not just the Scorpion Clan. It would be interesting to find out what those vassal clans are and under which major Sebetti Clan they served.

We’ve seen Lamashtu nursing a dog and a pig/boar (page 958), so are these really animals or are they symbolic representations of her descendants or her vassals? I don’t know, but it’s good to take note of this in order to verify and/or compare with the new information we will find later on.

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5e6e2d  No.14282822

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>>14275080

(Please read from the start)

Before going to the next armor I want to take a quick look at the Scorpion Egyptian goddess Serket: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serket

“Serket /ˈsɜːrˌkɛt/ (also known as Serqet, Selket, Selqet, or Selcis) is the goddess of fertility, nature, animals, medicine, magic, and healing venomous stings and bites in Egyptian mythology, originally the deification of the scorpion. Her family life is unknown, but she is sometimes credited as the daughter of Neith and Khnum, making her a sister to Sobek and Apep.”

>> It’s said very clearly here, Serket is the denitrification of the Scorpion. This is a very good example to show anons how things and animals were depicted symbolically and given different shapes than what we know them to be nowadays = things aren’t to be taken literally = as they are, not all the time. We should pay attention and discern between the symbolic representation and the realistic one.

Sobek and Apep were both reptiles = one is a crocodile while the second is a serpent. We already know that Scorpions protected Isis when she was fleeing from Seth’s wrath as I mentioned many times before. And it’s already been established that Neith is the oldest form of Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal: this was also explained. So the Scorpion is connected to both Neith and Isis. It all fits perfectly.

“Scorpion stings lead to paralysis and Serket's name describes this, as it means "(she who) tightens the throat"; however, Serket's name also can be read as meaning "(she who) causes the throat to breathe", and so, as well as being seen as stinging the unrighteous, Serket was seen as one who could cure scorpion stings and the effects of other venoms such as snakebites.”

>> Read my comments in previous page about poison ability of Horned Serpent and the possibilities.

“One of the most dangerous species of scorpion, the Deathstalker (Leiurus quinquestriatus) resides in North Africa, and its sting may kill, so Serket was considered a highly important goddess, and sometimes she was considered by pharaohs to be their patron. Her close association with the early rulers implies that she was their protector, notably Scorpion I and Scorpion II.”

>> We’ve already seen these artifacts.

“As the protector against venom and snakebite, Serket often was said to protect the deities from Apep, the great snake-demon of evil, sometimes being depicted as the guard when Apep was captured.”

>> See how tricky this is? One moment they tell us she’s sister of Apep and Sobek and her poisonous ability is equal to that of a Serpent = making her look like a bad person. Then next, they tell us she can cure poison and she protects from Apep = making her look like a good person. So which is it? This dual image projected by the Scorpion clan has me very confused as to where they stand: with the rightful Kking or with the coup plotters? Of course there is a high possibility there are traitors among the Scorpion clan, but to which percentage. And mostly, did the head of the Scorpion clan side with the coup plotters? Was he one of them, one of the 72? I don’t know. The picture is still unclear for me.

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5e6e2d  No.14282844

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>>14282822

(Please read from the start)

“As many of the venomous creatures of Egypt could prove fatal, Serket also was considered a protector of the dead, particularly being associated with venoms and fluids causing stiffening. She was thus said to be the protector of the tents of embalmers, and of the canopic jar associated with venom—the jar of the intestine—which was deified later as Qebehsenuef, one of the four sons of Horus, who were her sons by one of the two Horuses (Heru-pa-khered (Horus the Younger) or Her-ur (Horus the Elder)).”

>> So I was right all along: Poison can cause stiffness = petrification.

“As the guard of one of the canopic jars and a protector, Serket gained a strong association with Neith, Isis, and Nephthys, who also performed similar functions. Eventually, Serket began to be identified with Isis, sharing imagery and parentage, until finally, Serket was said to be merely an aspect of Isis, whose cult had become dominant.”

>> This is what I was saying in the previous page.

“It has been suggested that Serket's identification with a scorpion may be a misinterpretation of the determinative of her name and animal associated with her, and that could refer not to a scorpion, but rather to a water scorpion (Nepidae). According to this hypothesis, Serket is referred to as "she who gives breath" because of the way water scorpions seem to breathe underwater. The appearance of a waterscorpion must have made it be associated with the scorpion, therefore the use of the goddess for curing scorpion stings and other venomous creatures, or maybe exactly because she "causes to breathe", not for the physical similarities of the creatures.”

>> So there is room for misinterpretation.

“In popular culture

• In the webcomic Homestuck of MS Paint Adventures, Vriska Serket is a troll who brings about life in a new universe, causes many deaths, and is associated with scorpions.

• Serqet is one of the playable characters in Hi-rez MOBA, SMITE and acts out as a melee assassin.

• In Call of Duty: Black Ops IV, Serket is alluded to in the Chaos branch of the storyline, which is heavily mythology driven. Serket is mentioned in the map IX, which takes place in a Roman coliseum, where she presents the character with a scorpion that can be used to extract the sap of a tree in Danu's temple to then poison the mystery box of weapons and guarantee the receipt of the map's wonder weapon. The wonder weapon takes the form of a chained scorpion that shoots a bolt of light to trap and suspend zombies. It is known as the Death of Orion initially, but can be upgraded to the more powerful Serket's Kiss.”

>> Take a look at the last point “In popular culture” section. Interesting idea about the Scorpion’s tail turning into a chain that “shoots a bolt of light”. And what do you think about “Death of Orion” words put that way together? What is this “powerful kiss” Serket had? Was it the poisonous kiss of the death? Loads to think about. This is where I’m going to stop for the Scorpion for now.

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5e6e2d  No.14282851

>>14282844

(Please read from the start)

3 – The Spider Symbol: We’ve seen the Spider before in this thread and it was mentioned before as being a possible armor of a vassal Clan. We’ve seen with the Great Goddess of Teotihuacan (starting page 294), she was a giant, remember that? We’ve also seen the Spider in the Andean Region with the Cupisnique culture (starting page 434) and the Nazca Spider Geoglyph (picture in page 424). We’ve also seen the walls of the temple of the Moon in Trujillo – Moche Culture, covered with the colorful design of spiders (page 437).

In Ancient Egypt, we’ve already seen the Spider associated with Neith (page 1 019), mostly the weaving aspect – anons shouldn’t forget how Neith and Isis are linked. I guess the spider really projects the image of spinner and weaver just like Neith weaves the destiny and fate of people.

In Mesopotamia, we have a strange tale of Uttu which was made drunk then raped by Enki. The tale also suggests incest as Enki was considered her father in some versions. If anons are interested in reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttu

It’s hard to understand the Mesopotamian (Sumerian) deities. I mean take Enki/Ea…in one myth he appears he is plotting with others to kill all mankind but then divulges the plans and saves humanity from extinction. And here, he practices incest, intoxicates with alcohol his “supposed” daughter, then rapes her. We have 3 images projected of Enki: sometimes he is good, sometimes he is bad and sometimes he starts bad then repents and does good. It’s hard to draw clear lines with Mesopotamian deities. It’s easier to do it in Ancient Egypt.

The common points in all of the spiders worldwide (sor far) is that there aren’t that many of them = their number are a few; and they are all ladies = females. They also are NO warriors = NOT fighters. But then, what are they? The Spider is the heraldic symbol of what exactly? I don’t have much to go with them, but it seems they are somehow linked to the Queen of queens.

So I’m wondering if this clan is not her vassals. Or maybe they are like the Aquatic Healers = some type of sub-group with a specific function and in this case, attached to the Queen of queen, not the King of kings. What is their special specific function then?

I think it’s linked to the Weaving, but in a symbolic way. I don’t think the weaving should be taken literally here = they are not producing textile or threads here. I think this refers to the ability of “seeing” and changing FATE. I’m seeing it more as in this is a group of ladies which had the ability to see the possibilities of the future, make prophecies. I think we should see them as Oracles.

If we follow the same pattern of thoughts that the King of king was the head of the Aquatic Spiritual Healers and He, Himself had the ability to Heal through the Spirit – then we reach the same point with Neith and the Spider. With her ability to see and change FATE, Neith was the head of the Spider Oracle ladies/priestesses. I think these “gifts”/abilities are super rare and not just anyone has them – I’m talking about the abilities of both the King and the Queen. In turn, this is leading me to believe that all Sebetti rulers, all 7 of them, had ONE special, specific ability that none other had. I wonder what the special abilities of the other 5 Sebetti rulers are.

Of course, I will leave the door ajar for rectification and this is not set in stone. I’m lacking information and this is just the impression I get with what I’ve got so far. The Spider, the Aquatic Healers and the Scorpion…I need to gather more information to be as sure as possible.

This is for the Spider, for now.

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5e6e2d  No.14282861

>>14282851

(Please read from the start)

4 – Royal Griffin: We didn’t find any Griffins in Mesoamerica – not that I can remember of.

In the Andean region, we’ve seen plenty of Griffins on terracotas and textiles, mostly with the Tiwanaku culture (pages 475 & 479). It’s like there is a “concentration” of Griffins in that culture. I also said Tiwanaku is a starting point and from there loads of people relocated during different phases and for different reasons – but the starting point was Tiwanaku; in other words, if there are iconographies of Griffins in other cultures from the Andean Region, they originated with the Tiwanaku and was transferred to that culture when people migrated, just as it’s the case with the use of Geoglyphs: it started with Tiwanaku culture, the oldest practice, then as people migrated, it spread to other cultures. So, it’s the same thing with the iconography of Griffins.

We’ve got to combine it to the symbolism behind the Griffin or should I say the symbolism behind the iconography of the Griffin. We know that the Griffin also represents ROYALTY. As in, there is a ROYAL around, or it can be interpreted as in there are Royal Guards around. But the Royal Guards are usually attached to the Royal person they are protecting. So in order for a Royal Guard to exist, there must be at least one member of the Royal Family present to protect, or what reason does the Royal Guard need to be there for? If there are no Royal family members, then the Royal guard becomes a simple guard with no royalty around to protect, right?

Yes anons, I’m saying the concentrated iconography of the Griffin in the Tiwanaku Culture is indicating there was a member of the Royal Family of Atlantis in Tiwanaku. That’s not all: I think it’s one of the Sebettis. And anons have met that royal before in this thread.

When it comes to the Sebettis, we know we have 7 rulers = 5 kings (males) and 2 queens (females). What do we know about each of these rulers so far?

Let’s start with the females rulers:

1 – We have the Queen of queens identified as Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal = all of these are different forms of her. None of the names mentioned are her real name and is mostly called through her titles and her epithets – it was taboo to say her name out loud. She is the spouse of the King of kings and in the same time she is the Head/Rulers of one of the Sebetti Clans = the Lamassu = Taurus clan = her heraldic animal/symbol. In other words, she was a normal Sebetti = ruler of a clan, in the same time since she is the spouse of the Great King, she became the Queen of queens.

She’s got special powers which enable her to have the ability to “see” and the ability to change Fate. Because of this, she is the head of special specific group of people whom’s symbol is most probably the Spider = the Oracles priestesses. There aren’t that many of them. She is also the head of the Lamassu Clan warriors which were mostly specialized in flying “planes” and they had as the strong point in their armor their horns which emitted some type of Beam or electricity.

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5e6e2d  No.14282907

>>14282861

(Please read from the start)

She is devoted and loyal to her King and she is a mother as well. When her husband was killed, she mourned, thought of protecting “the Crown Prince” = the “legitimate Heir” = her child. She also got furious and fought back against the Coup Plotters. She took charge of the ThunderBirds (=Horus) and probably the other Sebetti clans faithful to the King joined forces under her command to fight back the enemy = the Horned Serpents and the traitors in each Clan. A big number of battles occurred for a long time after the Cataclysm occurred.

She also survived the Cataclysm that engulfed the entire planet. After the end of the Cataclysm we found her in Ancient Egypt. We see A SINGLE Griffin depicted on artifacts dating from pre-dynastic period, mostly. I can name as the best example as the 2 dogs palette, where we can see a battle taking place between the good side and the bad side, represented in a symbolic way through the heraldic animals of each Clan. Some of the vassal clans might have also participated in that battle. On that Palette, only ONE Griffin is depicted, indicating the presence of ONE ROYAL in Ancient Egypt, which amazingly fits perfectly with everything I’ve just summarized about Neith = the Queen of queens.

For some strange reason, the Queen of queens left Ancient Egyptian territory and went to Phoenicia to live for some time in the City-State of Gebal. This happened in pre-dynastic times and it seems it happened even before then; as in it happened in pre-pre-dynastic times. In turn this indicates how old the Phoenician City-States are and how close were their ties with Ancient Egypt. Both LANDS = territories, KNEW whom was Neith…as in both KNEW she was the Queen of queens, the top Queen of Atlantis.

But….there is a mystery here: why did the Queen traveled in the first place? And of all the places to go to, why did she go to the Phoenician City-State of Gebal? In order to her to leave the territory of Ancient Egypt, to go stay somewhere else for some time, means it was either for an important reason, or she was forced to because she was in danger.

As in, she might have been there in an important QUEST/Mission. It was of so big importance, that she, herself = in person, had to travel there. It was not something just anyone could do. If this is the case, then what was so important for her to go there herself? On the other hand, we are in a period where the war for dominance and struggle for power between the ThunberBirds and the Horned Serpents was raging. So, there is a possibility, that the Horned Serpent was getting close and tightening the rope around the Queen = putting her in danger. For the sake of her personal safety, she had to leave for some time Ancient Egyptian territory and returned after that danger was neutralized. These are 2 possibilities and I’m split 50/50 about them.

I hope I haven’t forgotten anything about the Queen of queens, I’m doing this summary out of memory. I would like to point out that I will keep on rectifying (if needed) when and if I found new information about her and the rest of the Sebettis. This is a work in progress.

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5e6e2d  No.14282949

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>>14282907

(Please read from the start)

2 – We have a second Sebetti queen. From what I’ve gathered about her for now, she always gives this image of being at first a naïve, innocent lady, very young. But then, she was seduced and corrupted by the Evil One and she turned = she became evil herself. I called her many times already as the Evil Lady because of that. I also think she might be a “princess” as in the offspring of the Royal Couple = the King and Queen of Atlantis; as in the daughter of Neith….but it’s not very clear yet. There is an attachment coming out from one of the Evil Couple to the Queen of queens; the sort of attachment only a child could have to their parent.

The Evil Lady also was the head of one of the Sebetti Clans, but I’m unsure if she was the ruler of the Serpent Clan or the ruler of the Antelope Clan. It’s most likely she had a special ability, like every Sebetti had; but so far I don’t know what that Special ability of hers is. She was also at the head of warriors which wore her heraldic animal, her symbol and they had their special type of weapons….but it depends which Clan she was the ruler of….and since that is still undetermined….it’s still not settled. It’s worth to mention that the armor of her warriors merged with the one of the Evil One at some point. This also suggests that both Clans merged their armies together to make them one. Which in turn makes it hard to see clearly which is which and which is where. By that I mean, we can clearly see loads of Antelopes on Ancient Egypt and on the Middle Eastern artifacts but it’s hard to discern which is which in Mesoamerica, Andean Region and with the Native American (so far).

This queen has also a lustful, sexual side to her and she is suspected to have an intimate sexual relationship with the Evil One as in they were lovers. It’s also a fact that she gave birth at least to ONE child, at LEAST ONE. Because we know the Merovingian Bloodline are the direct descendants of this Evil Duo. But this “relationship” was not an approved one but a forbidden one; which is making me suspect incest took place. This couple was the one whom started the “perverted” sexual practices (example: Anuket – page 1 017). This is where it all started and it was with them = All the sexual practices you see the current day Kabbalah do. All the Bloodlines for centuries practiced these same perverted sexual practices and it all originated from before the Cataclysm with this Evil Couple.

This notion was even hinted in a movie called Godzilla: King of Monsters. There is a lot of symbolism in this movie, starting with Godzilla being a giant reptile which can shoot out some type of electrical/ plasma or whatever beam. Then you have King Ghidora which is a puzzle in itself and (((they))) had to bring the alien origin into the mix (face palm). Of course the other “Titans” needs to be checked up as well as “Monarch” and their logo.

Loads going around in this movie series but there are 2 very notable scenes from this one:

1 – Ghidora is facing the Cross. It doesn’t need a genius to understand the real meaning of this.

2 – After being wounded, Godzilla goes to his lair to recover there. We find out that his lair is somewhere in a sunken city belonging to a lost civilization where they are hinting it’s the origin of ALL civilizations. We can see decorative features from all the Ancient cultures and civilizations worldwide, including the Greek and Ancient Egypt etc. We are programed to think automatically of Atlantis when we see an ancient city underwater and this is what they were hinting at in this movie.

As they are showing an overall view of the sunken city, in one of the shots, we can see very clearly the statue of Pazuzu on top of what looks like the roof of a temple. This is to indicate that the “Cult” existed in Atlantis before it sunk. But it’s also misleading you into thinking this was an open cult where everyone went openly to the temple and it was ALL accepted by society.

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5e6e2d  No.14283017

>>14282949

(Please read from the start)

It was NOT accepted and the big war that took place to stop the sacrifice of children (read the many warriors from Ancient Egypt from protected pregnant women and children) after the Cataclysm and to dispose of all the Horned Serpents is PROOF that this “Cult” was NEVER accepted by the Atlanteans, including the Queen of queens whom was the one leading the charge against the Evil One and his followers. This Cult was seen as an abomination by the other Clans and they were right to think that way because it is an abomination.

In this movie, by showing you this Pazuzu statue, (((they))) are giving you half a truth and half a lie. (((They))) are admitting that this horrible cult existed before the Cataclysm, when Atlantis existed = truth. Which in turn means (((they))) knew of this and hid it from us. (((They))) are trying to fool us into believing that this cult was accepted by society and it was openly practiced in front of everyone/ public practice = Lie. The reaction of the other clans and the war that took place after the Cataclysm is PROOF this cult = including the sacrifice of children = pedovores, was NEVER accepted at any time.

I guess this also explains why the Bronze Plaque where Lamashtu is depicted (starting page 960) was called the Plaque of the Hells or the Plaque from Hell (something like that). Just take a good and long look at that bronze plaque, does it look like Hell is represented on it? I didn’t know there were trees in Hell, nor lamps that emits light, nor beds to sleep on….see what I mean? Which makes me wonder why (((they))) gave this name to that bronze Plaque? It’s because that plaque is referring to how it was “before the Cataclysm” for (((them))), at least the 3rd and 4rd registers are = as in living in Atlantis was Hell for (((them))). While the second register is probably showing the death of the King of kings – not a 100 % sure though. While the lower register is showing how Lamashtu came out from the Ark on Mt Ararat and navigated down the Euphrates using the Kuphar to Mesopotamia.

Lamashtu brings me back to the Evil Lady because both seem to have given BIRTH after the Cataclysm occurred. Which brings me back to her forbidden relationship with the Evil One and it makes me wonder what was the forbidden fruit both of them consumed: was it the taboo, incest relationship = sexual, they had and the birth of their child? Or was it them being pedovores? Or was it them trying to play god and trying to create new life like Frankenstein? See how many grave sins these 2 have committed? The crime was so great that even our Heavenly Father Himself couldn’t forgive them.

From the looks of it, it seems that after the Cataclysm, the Evil Lady was somewhere in the Middle East and/or Ancient Egypt. Is this the important reason why Neith had to leave Ancient Egypt for a certain time and go live in Gebal? Was she after the Evil Lady? Or was she fleeing the evil army? I don’t know for sure, these are possibilities for now. I have more suggestions on the way.

We also know that the Evil Lady was the partner in crime of the Evil One. He was the one whom started everything and she was his first “recruit”. He seduced her and turned her to his cause for starters. From there on, they plotted to recruit more and more to their sick, twisted cause, starting with their clans, then going to other clans. They plotted with 72 other main co-conspirators and they planted spies in other clans, turned people from other clans and stole whatever could be useful for them to win. She was most probably promised the spot of Queen of queens by the Evil One.

Well, now we know that both Sebetti ladies were not in the Andean Region but in the Middle East. This means we can eliminate them both as possible candidates for the Sebetti in the Andean Region. Which leaves me with the option of only male Sebettis for that area.

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075c92  No.14289704

>>14283017

(Please read from the start)

Now is the turn of the male rulers:

1 – The King of kings: What do we know about him so far? = He was the King of everything and everyone. He was the supreme ruler. He was the King of Atlantis, the King of the people and the King of the other Sebetti rulers. He was a wise and kind ruler, beloved by his people. We also know it’s highly possible he is the head of the Aquatic Spiritual Healers. His special ability seems to be an immense Spiritual Holy power.

He was the spouse of the Queen of queens, the one I’m calling Neith. They had at least TWO children; which I’m suspecting one of them is the Evil Lady….but there seems also to be a Crown Prince = an legitimate Heir to the throne, a male heir.

It’s unclear which was his heraldic symbol among the Sebetti Clans. The Griffin represents royalty and he was the top royal. So I’m saying the Griffin might represent him…but…that’s not entirely correct either. Since we’ve seen in the relief of Nergal (page 790) a veiled Lady sitting on a throne with 2 guardian Griffins = this indicates that she is royalty (I wonder if this is the Evil Lasy? I don’t know). Which in turn means, that the Griffin indicates the presence of a royal or the Royal guards near the royal person, protecting him/her.

So then, what is the heraldic animal of the King of kings? We have 3 possibilities:

A – The ThunderBirds: Seeing how fiercely they fought against the Horned Serpents worldwide their loyalty to the King is unquestionable. They are the deadly enemy of the Horned Serpents. How many traitors amongst their ranks have we seen so far? = NONE. So far, I haven’t picked a single multi-morph armor with the helmet of an Eagle. This is pushing me to believe that there were no traitors among the ThunderBird ranks, or at least almost NO traitors. And they were the ones whom followed the leadership of Isis/Neith in her battles against the Horned Serpents.

The Lamassu is the heraldic symbol of the Queen of queens and it’s a sky type of warrior. It’s possible that the ThunderBirds = another sky warrior, were the army of the King of kings. This way the royal couple would dominate the sky.

B – The Feline warriors: The Griffin is composed of both the Eagle and the Lion. Since the Griffin symbolizes royalty, I thought that at least one of these 2 animals would be the one under the command of the King of kings. It makes sense this way. But among the Feline warriors there were traitors as we’ve encountered a few multi-morph with a Feline helmet. There was no “absolute” = a 100 % loyalty towards the King of kings within the Feline warrior ranks.

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075c92  No.14289713

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>>14289704

(Please read from the start)

C – The Ram warriors: when taking a look at Osiris, which I believe is the projection of the King of kings, it was said that the Ram was connected to him but the reason is unknown. Strangely, we don’t have much Ram warriors around. There is ONE in Ometepe, Nicaragua and there is also one = Khnum in Ancient Egypt, but that is just it.

I am sure the Ram in Nicaragua doesn’t represent cattle or the ram as an animal. This is a Sebetti Ram warrior. How am I so sure of this point? Well, because of what I read in all the cultures of the Andean region having a shortage of the “traditional” cattle, that’s why they relied mostly on Llama as a source for protein = meat. Such domesticated animal as rams or cows, didn’t show up in the artistic representations of the Andean Region as well.

Same goes for Mesoamerica, do you remember what was said about the “lack” of protein and there wasn’t much cattle to go around? So they relied on seafood and vegetable protein instead. We also don’t see cows or rams depicted in their art. Actually, I am personally unable to see anything clearly in their art, I get crossed eyed ^_^ it’s a bit difficult for me to discern it since it’s so elaborate and intertwined.

For the Central and Southern Americas, I’ve only managed to find out ONE Ram warrior. Same thing goes for Ancient Egypt where we know the traditional cattle existed but Ram warriors were scarce: why don’t we see many of them? Rams do exist in Mesopotamia, but the iconography is pointing to the animal ram not the Ram warrior with a human body. It’s mostly the type of artifacts (from different eras) looking like the picture I’ve attached with this page. It points to the animal, not a Ram warrior with a human body.

So where did MOST of the Ram warriors go? How can most of the Clan vanish like that? It’s like they have been completely wiped out? And it’s not just the Ram warriors but also the Wolf Warriors. So far, I was unable to locate Wolf Warriors outside of Ancient Egypt. Maybe I missed them.

Let’s pretend for 2 min that I’m a great general and I know I will be entering war soon and I need to prepare for it = plan for it. What do I do? I gather intelligence of all sorts of course and I also work on the strength and weaknesses of my adversary, then I put a plan, a strategic plan to take out first the ones (or things) which I consider as the most dangerous threat. If I take the strongest point of the enemy first, wouldn’t that weaken them considerately during the battle that is coming? I can understand why the Wolf warriors were almost wiped out: it’s because of their aptitude to technology and medicine = it gives them an edge on other warriors.

But what about the Ram warriors? Here, I’m totally in the dark, I cannot understand what’s so threatening about them. Unless, most of the Ram warriors were gathered in ONE place and they were all blown up in one go = set a trap to get rid of them all at once (possibility 1). Which in turn, makes me wonder why them and how powerful were the Ram warriors for them to be taken out like this? There is also another possibility that they were the weakest and were the first to be defeated by face to face combat with the Horned Serpent warriors (possibility 2). I’m not military guy, so if anyone with a bit of military knowledge is reading, it would be great to share your take on this.

As anons can see, I’m unable to tell for now which one of these 3 options it is: which is the heraldic animal of the King of kings. But this King is dead. The tragedy started with his death, so there is no way he lived for after the Cataclysm and got in the Andean Region. This is not the Sebetti we are looking for.

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711b70  No.14290282

>>14289713

(Please read from the start)

2 – The Evil One: I think the Evil One was a Sebetti king. My mentor suggests the slight possibility that the Evil One was actually the SON of a Sebetti king = a young heir. For now, with what I’ve got, everything is point the he was a Sebetti king.

Just like with the Evil Lady, it is unclear which animal was his heraldic symbol since both his and the one of the Evil Lady merged together to form the Horned Serpent.

We know that everything was “fine” with him at first. It was discovered that he had some type of illness which couldn’t be cured at all, neither with the healing pods/beds we’ve seen in this thread nor by the means of the Spiritual Healers. It seems that even the King of kings couldn’t heal him. Suddenly, something happened to him and evil was found in him despite that it wasn’t there at first. This “change” is due to his incurable illness.

For his illness to be incurable, it has something to do with his genetic code = his D.N.A. or his chromosomes. He needs blood, fresh HUMAN blood to ward off the effects of his illness. As long as he gets fresh human blood, he can “tame” the symptoms and effects of his illness = keep it under control but not cure himself. Today Bloodlines are his descendants, mostly that Merovingian Bloodline (other Bloodline families have married into the Merovingians, so they share that blood). And (((they))), mostly the Merovingians, were passed on his “illness” or at least (((they))) are “carriers” of the illness. For him and his descendants, the consumption of fresh human blood is vital and it’s a matter of life or death for (((them))), not just some crazy ritual. Most anons on the board think (((they))) drink blood as part of a satanic ritual, but no one realized it’s the other way around = the ritual was created for (((them))) to drink blood. The need of blood came before the ritual was created. (((Their))) need for blood, mostly the Evil One’s need for blood, made him create a “ceremonial” way to consume it. This is where the idea of Vampires comes from most likely, including what we see about them in Hollywood.

He was arrogant, full of himself and was hungry for power. Since he was like that, he created a cult to have followers (to satisfy his inferiority complex) and he created a whole ceremony centered about his blood consumption. He was mostly jealous and envious of the King of kings, I bet he hated the King all the way to his messed up D.N.A. He claimed he was better and superior to the King, but the truth is, he wanted what the King had and he wanted to be like the King was. Remember what I said about the King of kings = he was Special among the Special, he had a tremendous amount of Holy Spiritual Power and he was popular and loved by all of this subjects. This is what the Evil One wanted = to be the CENTER of everything, including life and the creation of life.

Everything started with him, the Evil One. From the practice of pedovore, to seducing the Evil Lady and turning her into his partner in crime, to recruiting followers and creating a cult which he was the center of, to imitating God and trying to create new life. As I said so many times before, I suspect him to have some sort of incest relationship with the Evil Lady, a taboo relationship.

When we read about Adam and Eve and how the lady was “seduced” by a Serpent to eat the forbidden fruit, it makes me wonder how I should interpret all of this:

1 – Did the Evil Lady betray her lawful husband with the Evil One?

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711b70  No.14290396

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>>14290282

(Please read from the start)

2 – Or was Adam the Evil One before his illness showed up….and when it did, we see him depicted in another form = the form of a Serpent which offered Eve the forbidden fruit = cannibalism. Is this how it was? = both Adam and the Serpent are one and the same = the Evil One. More information is needed to verify this.

The Evil One tried, but he couldn’t even have easily children, even his seed was “cursed”. He can have children but with great difficulty. He tried to create new life but he also failed, so he started to do some freakish experiments where he took what already existed and combined them together: this is why I’ve been using the Frankenstein word.

Since he wanted to be King and God, he and his group came up with war plans which were carefully crafted for a long time before they took action. He wanted the throne but also the power the Great King had. He wanted to be Him. When the time was ripe, he, the Evil Lady and their group went for it = they started the coup. I believe it all started with the murder of the and it seems they even “ate” at least a part of the Great King’s dead body thinking they will get His power if they eat His flesh. That’s why the body of “Osiris” HAD TO BE GUARDED by warriors from all the other clans united.

In the same time, the Evil Lady was supposed to kill the Queen, probably consume some part of her and take her place on the throne. This is what I see so far from the information gathered. But….something went wrong and their plan didn’t go well. Sometimes, I feel like there is some type of hesitation from the part of the Evil Lady in doing her part when confronting the Queen and as I’ve mentioned before, there is a very clear attachment towards the Queen of queens. This attachment is the type of attachment only a child can feel towards his/her mother.

It’s still unclear how it happened exactly, but the plan went wrong and the Queen survived. And boy, oh boy, she was totally furious. She built the counter-attack and the war started. Somewhere in the middle of all of this the Cataclysm was triggered. I’m picking my words here anons. I’m not saying the Cataclysm happened, I’m saying the Cataclysm was triggered. Yes, I believe the Cataclysm was CAUSED. I’m still uncertain if it was done intentionally or unintentionally. Somewhere amidst all the turmoil that took place since the murder of the Great King, the Evil One also perished = died. I don’t know where, but somehow the Evil One lost his life amidst all of the turmoil that followed the death of the Great King. I already explained what happened to Alexander’s generals after his death to anons; so I think this is what happened after the death of the Evil One = a similar scenario took place, and in the same time, the warriors of the Light were after (((them))). This is why (((their)))) descendants were obsessed for thousands and thousands of years into re-opening that portal = (((they))) want to bring the Evil Couple back and have the Evil One finally sit on the throne….keep on day dreaming, it ain’t gonna happen.

With this, it’s obvious that the Evil One was not the Sebetti whom was in the Andean Region. It was another male Sebetti. I’m going to end it about the Evil One with pictures from the Holy Trinity Church in Marylebone. For all the Sheep out there: can you explain why we have Satan STANDING on top of the Star of David inside of this Church? What is the connection between them all, mostly between Satan and Judaism? There are no innocent Jews, except for the Jewish children under 10 years old. The rest of them know the truth exactly as it is, as soon as they are old enough to understand it. This is (((their))) teachings from the dawn of History, since (((they))) came out from the Ark. A scorpion cannot change its nature just as a leopard cannot change its spots. Even La Fontaine understood that when he wrote his little cute story about the Frog and the Scorpion. There is no such thing as good Jews: they know they killed Christ and it’s not my words. It’s the words of St. Paisios , I agree with him. Those whom stupidly say there are SOME innocent Jews in the community = if you belong to that community then you are not innocent. Our Heavenly Father Himself, didn’t forgive them for all of their crimes and He will not forgive them because they never stopped of doing the same thing for thousands of years. Some readers might think I’m walking the wrong path and that I’m blinded or biased and I should be more understanding: I say take a look at History and see the places where Jews existed/lived, society and life was destroyed. Yes, I’m biased, because I don’t want to be like the Sheep and be understanding and forgiving of Satan himself. Sorry, I rather be nasty and hold a sword in my hands, than find excuses for Satan and his followers.

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711b70  No.14290422

>>14290396

(Please read from the start)

This leaves me with 3 other male Sebettis: two of them which I have zero information about, while the third one I’m suspecting is the Crown Prince. If the Evil Lady is the daughter of the Royal Couple, a Sebetti Clan queen and she sat on the Council, then… it’s only normal to have the Crown Prince also as a Sebetti, with his own heraldic animal and clan sitting on that Council as well. It makes perfect sense for him to be a Sebetti.

3 - Since he is the Crown Prince, it’s only normal for him to inherit one day the throne of his Father and be the King of kings himself. Since he is a Sebetti, it means he is the head of a clan and its warriors. This also means he had special abilities as a Sebetti. His ability must be something of Spiritual nature because one day he is set to take his Father’s place on the throne. Since he is the Crown Prince, he should be the third highest ranking Sebetti, just after his Father and Mother – that is if there was a ranking order among the Sebettis.

As for his heraldic symbol, it’s gotta be one close to the Great King or the kingship in general…as in the ThunderBirds, the Feline or the Ram symbols. I guess it all depends on what the heraldic symbol of the Great King is, right? In Ancient Egypt, Horus = ThunderBirds played the role of the son of Osiris and Isis. Does this indicate the ThunderBirds were the warriors of the Crown Prince? I don’t know, it’s inconclusive with what we’ve got so far.

Seeing how Neith took charge instead of the Crown Prince, it’s making me think he must have been quite young and probably inexperienced in warfare to lead the charge himself. Or…another possibility is that he “vanished” = was in hiding for some time. We know his life was in danger = Seth and his followers came after Isis and baby Horus, so she had to flee in order to protect herself and her son. Does this indicate the Crown Prince was very young back then, when the Great King was murdered? Loads to think about here, right anons?

Was he the Sebetti we have in the Andean Region? I don’t know. All that is clear there, is we have loads of ThunderBirds and Feline warriors on an individual level. Amazingly, if we combine both these animals, we get the Griffin, which in turn indicates the presence of a Royal. Does this mean that the ThunderBirds and the Feline warriors represent the Great King and his heir = the Crown Prince. Is this what the Griffin is about? If this is the case, then what about the Ram warriors and why were they wiped out like this?

So which Sebetti is it we have in the Andean Region? I don’t know, I mean, I don’t know which is his Heraldic animal, but I do know that we have met him before in this thread. And quiet a lot at it.

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711b70  No.14290437

>>14290422

(Please read from the start)

Yes anons it’s the Staff-God = Viracocha = Bochica = Cē Ācatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl (mentioned in page 254). Just a side note: do not confuse Ce Acatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl - the one I keep on calling Quetzalcoatl because his name is too long and too hard for me – with the Bloody Feathered Serpent from the Aztec ALSO called Quetzalcoatl. That one is obviously Evil, while the one I keep on referring to as being in the same time Bochica, Viracocha and the Staff-God is the one with the long name. Finding a picture of the good Quetzalcoatl is not easy, so I’m not sure if the image I’ve attached to page 256 is of the good Quetzalcoatl or the bad one. I’ve checked it several times but I keep on getting different results.

Let’s go back talking about our Staff-God. His iconography is all over the Andean Region, not just in Peru but he appeared in neighboring countries but he was never identified correctly. He was also found all the way to Nicaragua on the Petroglyphs where once more, he was not identified correctly. This indicates how famous he was and how widespread his worship was. He was exceptional, he stood out.

He was a giant which came out from the waters. He used to wear a mask and I like it how rays come out of his head. I keep on wondering if this was the case of all the Sebetti rulers and if this special trait could also include their warriors? I never guessed what this special Light that comes out from them is. Could it be their Spiritual energy? I don’t know.

When we look at the Gateway of the Sun at Tiwanaku = starting point of the Staff-God cult, we find out he was holding 2 staff weapons (seems he lost one afterwards though), but he also had loads of “helpers”: some were wearing ThunderBirds hemlets while others had human heads. All of them were holding one staff weapon. I believe this is a Sebetti king represented on that gate along with his army = his warriors. We know already that the warriors from different clans were scattered worldwide after the Cataclysm – I mean it’s so obvious to the naked eye. So I’m not surprised to find 2 types of “helpers” depicted with the Staff-God.

It’s obvious from all these details and many more like how we don’t know his name and we don’t see his face, that the Staff-God is a Sebetti king. Both males by the way. Everything about the Staff-God fits perfectly with what was said about the Sebettis in the Epic of Erra (page 789): "champions without peer", "personified weapons" and “the terrifying Seven”. From Bochica, we know this Staff-God was a wise man, kind and he traveled and taught people about civilization. This is a common point he shares with Osiris.

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41da18  No.14297388

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>>14290437

(Please read from the start)

I’ve been thinking a lot about the high concentration of Griffin iconography in the Andean Region, so I ended up wondering if I cannot pick up a pattern from it. What do I mean here? Well, if the concentration of Griffin iconography in one place means there is a Royal, can I use this to find the other royals = the other Sebettis? Can I find the other Sebettis by identifying the Griffin hot spots?

The first place which came to my mind with a rather good concentration of Griffins in that geographic location is actually Ancient Egypt. To make it even better the iconography of the Griffin started there ever since pre-dynastic times (example 2 dogs palette) and it lasted all the way till the Hellenistic times. And we do have a Royal family member in Ancient Egypt = Neith. So far, we have 2 geographical spots with a concentration of Griffins and a Sebetti was found in each of these locations.

An idea is also floating in my head about the Griffin being the origin or the early form of the Sphinx. This possibility includes the Great Sphinx of Giza which is obviously re-carved, mostly the head. What if the original head of the Sphinx was that of an Eagle and not a Lion as man theorized. This needs further digging of course.

Well, maybe despite reading all that’ve written and despite all the artifacts I’ve provided, some readers are still not convinced with the existence of the Sebetti and their elite warriors. I’m going to provide to anon some additional artifacts to be considered as proof.

Anons can do the digs on these on their own if they are interested in them. I understand why the Main Stream History doesn’t like to bring such artifacts up for the public to see and study. But I’ve been wondering: why the Alternative History never considers such artifacts when they are supposedly trying to dig the truth about the Sphinx and the Pyramids of Giza and other mysteries worldwide?

I will be attaching with this page a series of 5 Ostraca. Take a very, very good look what’s on the Ostraca.

Now can anyone please explain what a LIZARD (maybe snake) looking person, standing upright, is doing by driving a chariot? What was an upright standing Feline doing carrying a basket and tending to some ducks? Why what looks like to be a mouse, is sitting on a chair, draped in a tunic waist down, smelling a lotus flower and holding something else in her right hand? Why there seems to be a roasted chicken or a roasted turkey in front of it as if it was having a meal? Why is there a Feline standing upright, holding a fan and a staff in front of the sitting mouse? I have no idea what a MOUSE can represent here; maybe a vassal clan or maybe it’s a symbolic representation of a specific type of person like what we have seen with the Aquatic Healers or the Spider Oracles. That’s one fine Birdman in the next Ostracon, isn’t it? In the last Ostracon you see, there is a mouse holding a staff whom is standing upright, behind him there is a chair. In front of him, there is a human = person whom seem to being beaten or subdued by the Feline standing upright behind him. Is this a “natural” behavior of animals anons? Are these “personas” we see on these Ostraca real animal….or are they symbolic representations of humans through their respective heraldic animals?

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41da18  No.14297404

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>>14297388

(Please read from the start)

I still have one Ostracon to show you. We have another “meal” scene here. Is it a Feline or a mouse sitting, wearing a tunic and holding a cup up? What is it holding? Is that a feather or is it fish bones? Maybe something else? I don’t know. The Feline is still standing upright holding that fan in front of the seated animal: you know, since it’s very hot in Ancient Egypt, someone gotta make sure the higher ups are cool and not suffocating from the heat. The Feline is also holding something else in his other hand. Between them, there is an animal: it’s either a scorpion or some type of sea food like a lobster. But since lobsters don’t have pointy tails like that, could this be a prawn? It doesn’t have claws for it to be a scorpion and it looks like it’s meal time since the seated animal is holding his cup up….so it’s gotta be some type of aquatic type of food he is having.

Next I have a wonderful series of papyri fragments for anons to see.

On the first one we clearly see a mouse sitting on a chair, holding a cup up while it looks like 2 Felines are “attending” to its needs. While in the second one we see a mouse being carried by a Feline standing upright and there is a fan, partially, behind them. The third is another “meal” scene or should I say banquet scene with various animals tending to the seated one. Is this a normal behavior for animals? Or they look and behave just like humans do?

The last papyrus is a long strip where we can see various animals standing upright with human behavior. This one dates back from the Ramesside period, so it’s from a late period. We have loads of Sebetti clan heraldic animals here anons: from the Antelope and the Feline playing chess together, to the Wolf and more Felines tending to various tasks. This is truly a marvelous piece.

I can assure you, this is no ancient comic book, no cartoons and definitely not Mickey Mouse from Disney. This is a symbolic representation of the Sebetti Clan members either on Ostracon or on papyrus fragments. It’s a shame we’ve got bits and pieces of them, as in they were damaged and we don’t have them in good shape.

I bet neither the Mains Stream History nor the Alternative History will ever tell you about these little marvels. If they did, it would bring loads of curious eyes and a mountain of questions will rise, blowing a huge hole into the narrative (((they))) so carefully woven for us for centuries now. It will uncover the truth about the History of Mankind and where we really come from, including putting a SPOTLIGHT on the CRIMES (((they))) committed against humanity.

I guess this gotta do it now for Ancient Egypt, right? This should be enough proofs for anons about the Sebetti warriors in Ancient Egypt. The Griffin (and his new form the Sphinx) in Ancient Egypt indicates the presence of a member of the Royal family = a Sebetti ruler, which is none other than Neith.

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41da18  No.14297437

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>>14297404

(Please read from the start)

I did find a third spot where there is a concentration of the Griffin iconography along with a cocktail of the Sebetti warriors. But before I show anons the artifacts and the geographic location, I need to get out of this tunnel = rewind to page 958, when I was taking a look at Lamashtu. I went down that digging tunnel all the way down, didn’t I? Now, I’m going to rewind, climb back up and go down another tunnel, that tunnel will eventually connect to where I stopped with the Griffin iconography concentration point number 3 as in connect to page 1 177.

In page 958, while taking a look at Lamashtu, there was one last point that was not checked and we will be doing that right now. I have to do this before I reveal the third Griffin concentration location point to anons. It’s about Lilith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

This is going to be LONG anons.

“Lilith (/ˈlɪlɪθ/; Hebrew: לִילִית‎ Lîlîṯ) is a demonic figure in Judeo-Christian mythology, supposedly the primordial she-demon and alternately first wife of Adam. She is first mentioned in Biblical Hebrew in Isaiah 34:14, and later in Late Antiquity in Mandaean Gnosticism mythology and Jewish mythology sources from 500 CE onwards. Lilith appears in historiolas (incantations incorporating a short mythic story) in various concepts and localities that give partial descriptions of her. She is mentioned in the Babylonian Talmud (Eruvin 100b, Niddah 24b, Shabbat 151b, Baba Bathra 73a), in the Book of Adam and Eve as Adam's first wife, and in the Zohar Leviticus 19a as "a hot fiery female who first cohabited with man.”

>> Yup! This is the MOTHER of ALL DEMONS and she is found in Judaism and of course the Kabbalah. It’s amazing how acknowledgeable they are in Judaism when it comes to demons, isn’t it? ^_^

“Lilith perhaps originated from an earlier class of female demons (lilû, lilîtu, and (w)ardat lilî) in the ancient Mesopotamian religion, found in cuneiform texts of Sumer, Assyria, and Babylonia.”

>> Oh how cute of (((them)))! (((They))) used the word “perhaps” here. So sweet to sugar coat things for the Sheep! Let me get this straight: Judaism copied and edited several times, to fit (((their))) twisted narrative, many ancient stories, myths and even knowledge from the different civilizations of Mesopotamia, but this one…it “perhaps” originated from that region. There are no “perhaps” here anons.

I do like the sentence: “a hot fiery female who first cohabited with man”. See, they didn’t say ADAM, but man, A MAN, as in a single MAN. She was hot fiery…this makes me think of the fiery weapon the Evil Couple uses and in the same time, it making me think of the perverted sexual relationship the Evil Couple had.

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41da18  No.14297454

>>14297437

(Please read from the start)

Do you remember in pages 960 - 961, on the bronze Plaque of the Hells, Lamashtu is depicted coming down on a Kuphar from the Armenian plateau and settled in Mesopotamia? Why did (((they))) associate Lamashtu and Lilith together on page 958? Did (((they))) know Lilith and Lamashtu were one and the same? That she survived by boarding the Ark, then it rested on Mt Ararat? And when the waters retreated all the way, she came down with her offspring downstream Euphrates River and settled at least for some time in Mesopotamia? It’s looking that way anons, it’s looking that way. Unless I find somewhere else a stronger piece of evidence, I think Lamashtu and Lilith are one and the same….and…they both are the Evil Lady. This is why Lilith is considered the MOTHER of ALL DEMONS. Because she is the one whom had a forbidden relationship with the Evil One, and then got pregnant to give birth to his offspring. I’m repeating: unless I find stronger proof, then I think Lilith = Lamashtu are none other than the Evil Lady I’ve been talking about in this thread.

“Lilith continues to serve as source material in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy, and horror.”

>> Pardon me but what the ~*^#$$# does this mean? Did she win Miss Universe pageant and became so popular till this day? Oh come on! We know how it works in marketing, entertainment and the brainwashing turning her into an icon.

“History

In some Jewish folklore, such as the satiric Alphabet of Sirach (c. AD 700–1000), Lilith appears as Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time (Rosh Hashanah) and from the same clay as Adam – compare Genesis 1:27 (this contrasts with Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs). The legend of Lilith developed extensively during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadah, the Zohar, and Jewish mysticism. For example, in the 11th-century writings of Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she had coupled with the archangel Samael.”

>> Look at the date anons = in the Middle Ages, that’s pretty darn late as a date…so what happened for many “centuries” to Lilith? Where was she all of this time before the Middle Ages? And of all places, she had to appear in Jewish Folklore which has Hellenistic influence in it (face palm).

I see this in a different way. Eve was the Evil Lady before she turned and became evil. She was this naïve, young princess whom was seduced by the Serpent and she ate from the forbidden fruit. When she did that, she turned into Lilith and became the mother of all monsters, literally. It’s also funny how we can see traces of the feminist mvt here when it’s said: “she refused to become subservient to him (aka Adam). Talking about Adam, I think he represents the Evil One before his illness showed up. When it did, he turned into the Serpent and seduced Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. The Garden of Eden is obviously Atlantis.

I don’t think it’s Adam she refused to “submit” to, but it’s the King of kings. Don’t forget there was a coup to take over the throne by the plotters and Lilith fits perfectly in that group. As for her being the lover of Archangel Samael…this is referring to her forbidden sexual relationship with the Evil One. I’ve been talking a lot about all of this anons and here, the same thing is said.

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41da18  No.14297488

>>14297454

(Please read from the start)

“Interpretations of Lilith found in later Jewish materials are plentiful, but little information has survived relating to the Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian view of this class of demons. While researchers almost universally agree that a connection exists, recent scholarship has disputed the relevance of two sources previously used to connect the Jewish lilith to an Akkadian lilītu – the Gilgamesh appendix and the Arslan Tash amulets. (see below for discussion of these two problematic sources) "Other scholars, such as Lowell K. Handy, agree that Lilith derives from Mesopotamian demons but argue against finding evidence of the Hebrew Lilith in many of the epigraphical and artifactual sources frequently cited as such (e.g., the Sumerian Gilgamesh fragment, the Sumerian incantation from Arshlan-Tash)."

>> Has anyone read a more ambiguous paragraph than this one? Is there or isn’t there a connection to the ancient Mesopotamian cultures? The bronze Plaque of the Hell is a good proof that a mother of demons = Lamashtu came down the Euphrates from the Armenian Plateau where the Ark rested. For me the chances are extremely high Lamashtu and Lilith are one and the same but the Main Stream Historians and the Jews don’t want anyone to make the connection between them and trace it all back to Mt. Ararat because (((they))) do not want to reveal the existence of the Ark on that mountain because….can you guess why? I’ve hinted for the reason many times already. Keep on working on this for now.

“In Hebrew-language texts, the term lilith or lilit (translated as "night creatures", "night monster", "night hag", or "screech owl") first occurs in a list of animals in Isaiah 34, either in singular or plural form according to variations in the earliest manuscripts. The Isaiah 34:14 Lilith reference does not appear in most common Bible translations such as KJV and NIV. Commentators and interpreters often envision the figure of Lilith as a dangerous demon of the night, who is sexually wanton, and who steals babies in the darkness. In the Dead Sea Scrolls 4Q510-511, the term first occurs in a list of monsters. Jewish magical inscriptions on bowls and amulets from the 6th century AD onwards identify Lilith as a female demon and provide the first visual depictions of her.”

>> Look what the translation means, it’s amazing: “night creature, night hag, night monster or screech owl”. Has anyone ever wondered why the Bible isn’t a uniform book but we have various versions of it where bits and parts were added, removed or altered? I see it as everyone “puts his own version of the Bible according to their own views and opinions”. But where is the REAL, AUTHENTIC Bible in all of this? I would like to get my hands on it and read it.

Lilith, just like Pazuzu and Lamashtu, likes to steal babies in the darkness….how many Light warriors we have, like Bes and the others, whom used to protect pregnant ladies and children, including babies? Things are starting to come really nicely together. We have a new detail when it comes to Lilith = her sexual lust…seem she had loads of perverted sexual cravings which were hard for her to control. For me, it fits perfectly with the image of the Evil Lady whom joined the Evil One after being “seduced sexually” by him. There is always this smell of perverted sex when it comes to her. From the naïve chaste innocent lady, she was turned into a perverted sexual craving demon, as in she used to rape kids and then sacrifice them and consume them = everything current Bloodlines do nowadays.

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41da18  No.14297492

>>14297488

(Please read from the start)

“Etymology

In the Akkadian language of Assyria and Babylonia, the terms lili and līlītu mean spirits. Some uses of līlītu are listed in the Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), in Wolfram von Soden's Akkadisches Handwörterbuch (AHw, p. 553), and Reallexikon der Assyriologie (RLA, p. 47).”

>> So lili or lililu means Spirits in later dates = Assyrian and Babylonian times.

Incredible how there is a Lili in the movie Legend (1985) – starting page 1 037 - whom fits perfectly with the innocent naïve lady turning into the perverted lustful sex craving evil = just like the double projected image we have of Lilith and Eve. We see the same idea with Theodora from the Oz movie (starting page 925). We have Lily Potter from Harry Potter series; we’ve already taken a look into all of this – page 1 107. We also have Leeloo from the 5th element movie, which along with Lily Potter had Red hair and had a special hidden power = the power of love within her. Amazing isn’t it? Did anons notice the portraits of Lilith being depicted with Reddish hair, sometimes it’s blond/reddish, closer to gold. It’s also linked to the Fleur de Lis and the symbol of Raziel from the movie Motal Instruments: City of Bones (starting page 1 123). Carly is a red hair too and she has special powers too.

“The Sumerian female demons lili have no etymological relation to Akkadian lilu, "evening".”

>> This is rather interesting. So in Sumerian it refers to female demons and in ancient Akkadian = lilu is evening.

“Archibald Sayce (1882) considered that Hebrew lilit (or lilith) לילית and the earlier Akkadian līlītu are from proto-Semitic. Charles Fossey (1902) has this literally translating to "female night being/demon", although cuneiform inscriptions from Mesopotamia exist where Līlīt and Līlītu refers to disease-bearing wind spirits.”

>> I think it’s the mixing of all the interpretations. When you go back to read those multi-morph monsters and demons (like Pazuzu, Humbaba etc.) you will notice all that is mentioned in these few lines about Lilith is said about them as well. As in they bring plagues and diseases, they have something to do with wind-spirits or wind deity and they go after pregnant women, babies and children. They all have these common points. I don’t think Lilith is a name name, as in a real name, it’s more like a descriptif type of name, not even an epithet.

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d6eae0  No.14299499

>>14297492

(Please read from the start)

“Mesopotamian mythology

The spirit in the tree in the Gilgamesh cycle

Samuel Noah Kramer (1932, published 1938) translated ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith in "Tablet XII" of the Epic of Gilgamesh dated c. 600 BC. "Tablet XII" is not part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but is a later Assyrian Akkadian translation of the latter part of the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh. The ki-sikil-lil-la-ke is associated with a serpent and a zu bird. In Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld, a huluppu tree grows in Inanna's garden in Uruk, whose wood she plans to use to build a new throne. After ten years of growth, she comes to harvest it and finds a serpent living at its base, a Zu bird raising young in its crown, and that a ki-sikil-lil-la-ke made a house in its trunk. Gilgamesh is said to have killed the snake, and then the zu bird flew away to the mountains with its young, while the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke fearfully destroys its house and runs for the forest. Identification of ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith is stated in Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (1999). According to a new source from late antiquity, Lilith appears in a Mandaic magic story where she is considered to represent the branches of a tree with other demonic figures that form other parts of the tree, though this may also include multiple "Liliths".”

>> I do not remember where, but I did mention before that the intention of Inanna to carve a new throne might be hinting to the COUP. So the Serpent in this story was killed by Gilgamesh, it fits with my idea that the Evil One was killed sometime, somewhere after he murdered the King of kings. We’ve also seen this in the movie Beautiful Creatures when Lena sees the sad love story of her ancestor Genevieve, when her “beloved” Ethan was killed and she became cursed to “save” him = bring him back to life. Same idea in Legend (1985), when Darkness is killed but he retains his spiritual form. I bet if I look more deeply into it, I will find this idea in many Hollywood movies. I mean it’s looking more and more than the Evil One was killed sometime after the death of the King of king. In the end, Evil doesn’t pay.

It’s not that clear but the Zu bird seems to be special and it flew away with its young towards a mountains. The easiest and fastest way to reach some mountains is to go upstream Euphrates via rowing and reach the South-Eastern Taurus mountain chain. It’s quicker and easier to get there, then to join a caravan towards the West where the other mountain ranges are = Mount-Lebanon & Anti-Lebanon. If they go to the West, it would take them at least a couple of weeks if not more to reach the mountains, but if they go rowing upstream Euphrates, they will reach it within a few short days.

From the sound of it, it seems the Zu bird and its young are fleeing. When you are running away = fleeing, you take the shortest road to safety, not the longest and most hazardous one. This is why I’m saying they went upstream Euphrates and sought refuge in the South-Eastern Taurus mountain range.

Multiple Lilith seems to refer to multiple demons or should I say multiple multi-morphs. It’s understandable how such armors = the multi-morphs, might look like demons to normal humans since they are made of a mixture of animals = the heraldic animals of the other clans. I bet if I ran into one, for real, I would also think it’s a demon or a monster.

I’ve been also wondering if Inanna isn’t the Evil Lady. Lilith might be her descriptive but it’s not her name for sure. And we know that Inanna has other names and she is very sexualized, lustful lady. She fits well with the descriptive of the Evil Lady.

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d6eae0  No.14299577

>>14299499

(Please read from the start)

“Suggested translations for the Tablet XII spirit in the tree include ki-sikil as "sacred place", lil as "spirit", and lil-la-ke as "water spirit",but also simply "owl", given that the lil is building a home in the trunk of the tree.

A connection between the Gilgamesh ki-sikil-lil-la-ke and the Jewish Lilith was rejected by Dietrich Opitz (1932) and rejected on textual grounds by Sergio Ribichini (1978).”

>> These 2 can reject it all they want, it won’t change the fact that the survivors of the Flood came down to Mesopotamia from the Ark on Mt Ararat. So yes, there is a connection between Gilgamesh and Lilith because the survivors came from the same Ark as in the good warriors and the bad warriors survived by boarding the Ark along with the Evil Lady. And it is confirmed when it is said that Atra-Hasis put his family to safety first. Another confirmation is the presence = existence of the current days Bloodlines. They had to come from somewhere, (((they))) survived the Flood just like the warriors of Light did.

“The bird-footed woman in the Burney Relief

Kramer's translation of the Gilgamesh fragment was used by Henri Frankfort (1937) and Emil Kraeling (1937) to support identification of a woman with wings and bird-feet in the disputed Burney Relief as related to Lilith. Frankfort and Kraeling incorrectly identified the figure in the relief with Lilith, based on a misreading of an outdated translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Modern research has identified the figure as one of the main goddesses of the Mesopotamian pantheons, most probably Inanna or Ereshkigal.”

>> I think they are fighting over a nothing here. All 3 = Lilith, Inanna and possibly Ereshkigal point to the same lady. I think the first 2 actually do but I’m not so sure about Ereskhkigal.

I think here, with Lilith/Inanna we are dealing with the same situation as we have with Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal in Ancient Egypt. This is the same person, but seen under different optics and with each new generation the misunderstanding just grows as young generations get further away from the truth and misinterpret the real meaning = mutation occurs, and with the migration of people along the centuries, the mutation gets bigger.

As for the tablet itself: well, first of all this is from Babylonian times, so it’s from later period. Here is the link for those whom are interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burney_Relief

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d6eae0  No.14299618

>>14299577

(Please read from the start)

Yes, we’ve seen it before in this thread in page 766. First of all this was displayed at the B.M. and the exact location where it was found is unknown = as in just like for the palette of Narmer, we don’t know the exact location where this relief was excavated; you can bet this is done on purpose. (((They))) know all about it, but (((they))) are not sharing the information with us about it.

Sometimes, I think it’s because of this specific relief that we have the “owl” worship/symbolism by the Bloodlines. Let me explain: what I think happened is that even the descendants of the old coup plotters = the Bloodlines (from centuries till now) didn’t fully understand the real meaning behind the artifacts (((they))) had in (((their))) possession. When (((they))) saw this relief (((they))) immediately recognized whom the “sexy” lady is on it, but (((they))) rushed into thinking the “owls” are her symbol not knowing the military technology theft that took place back then and how the coup plotters merged it with their own armors.

The Evil couple along with their respective armies were never airborne = they were never part of the sky troops but they were part of the land troops. Their original armors never had wings like it’s proven by the bronze Plaque of the Hells of Lamashtu. The wings are stolen and added. Do you also see the horned crown she is wearing? This is also stolen tech from the other clans. And we know the Shenu Ring she is holding is some type of weapon. Is she a Traitor ThunderBird warrior? Or is she an Antelope warrior? It doesn’t matter because in each case it means she is part of the evil warriors.

The real tricky part is the two owls on each side of her along with the 2 Lions she is standing on. There are 3 interpretation tunnels here for those animals.

1 – The owls are Traitor ThunderBird warriors and the Lions are Traitor Feline warriors; both serving her as protectors, guardians or servants. I’m unable to see the ThunderBirds as traitors anons. They were the most fierce fighters against the Horned Serpents. This interpretation is incorrect.

2 – This Antelope warrior nude lady was a prisoner of the ThunderBirds, captured by them and they are her prison guards. But this doesn’t explain why she is standing in a superior stance on the Feline warriors, while holding the Shenu Rings. If you are a prisoner, you won’t be given any weapons. Right the opposite; you will be stripped of weapons and the military armor. So this interpretation is also incorrect.

3 – What will happen if I combine the ThunderBirds and the Feline warriors? = I will have the Griffin, right? The Griffin symbolizes royalty = the presence of a royal and this is what this relief is indicating. It’s pointing that the lady is of royal lineage, not just any royal lineage, but the Atlantean royal lineage. The reason why she is standing on the Lions is because they are the symbolic representation of a country = land = kingdom. What I’m saying is that the Griffin’s a composite of ONE ThunderBird and ONE Feline warrior. Combined, it represents the royal family of Atlantis.

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055e8c  No.14304130

>>14299618

(Please read from the start)

On page 1 170, when taking a look at the King of kings, I said I was uncertain which was his heraldic animal and one of the possibilities was the Feline. So doesn’t it mean in this relief that the Feline she is standing on represent the kingdom of her Father, where she came from = Atlantis? Is the Feline the heraldic symbol of Atlantis and its King? I would like to wait and be patient, gather more information. I’ve been flip flopping on this one a lot, just like I’m unsure about the Serpent and the Antelope Sebettis. Which in turn brings me to the question: is this relief an indication that the Evil Lady was the ruler = the Sebetti queen of the Antelope Clan? Loads to think about here.

“The Arslan Tash amulets

The Arslan Tash amulets are limestone plaques discovered in 1933 at Arslan Tash, the authenticity of which is disputed. William F. Albright, Theodor H. Gaster, and others, accepted the amulets as a pre-Jewish source which shows that the name Lilith already existed in the 7th century BC but Torczyner (1947) identified the amulets as a later Jewish source.

In the Hebrew Bible

The word lilit (or lilith) only appears once in the Hebrew Bible, in a prophecy regarding the fate of Edom, while the other seven terms in the list appear more than once and thus are better documented. The reading of scholars and translators is often guided by a decision about the complete list of eight creatures as a whole. Quoting from Isaiah 34 (NAB):

(12) Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the Lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and His spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is He who casts the lot for them, and with His hands He marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.”

>> This paragraph feels like déjà vu, but I’m unable to recall where it was I’ve seen it before. Sorry about that. Regardless….we have here all the Sebetti Clans heraldic animals. Be careful of how you interpret the text because we know the Old Testament has been heavily edited. Walk through this slowly and carefully.

“Hebrew text

In the Masoretic Text

Hebrew: וּפָגְשׁוּ צִיִּים אֶת-אִיִּים, וְשָׂעִיר עַל-רֵעֵהוּ יִקְרָא; אַךְ-שָׁם הִרְגִּיעָה לִּילִית, וּמָצְאָה לָהּ מָנוֹח

Hebrew (ISO 259): u-pagšu ṣiyyim et-ʾiyyim, w-saʿir ʿal-rēʿēhu yiqra; ʾak-šam hirgiʿa lilit, u-maṣʾa lah manoaḥ

34:14 "And shall-meet wildcats with jackals

the goat he-calls his- fellow

lilit (lilith) she-rests and she-finds rest

34:15 there she-shall-nest the great-owl, and she-lays-(eggs), and she-hatches, and she-gathers under her-shadow:

hawks [kites, gledes] also they-gather, every one with its mate.”

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055e8c  No.14304133

>>14304130

(Please read from the start)

“In the Dead Sea Scrolls, among the 19 fragments of Isaiah found at Qumran, the Great Isaiah Scroll (1Q1Isa) in 34:14 renders the creature as plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth).”

>> This is no surprising at all. There were many Horned Serpents = demons after all and it seems this female we call Lilith was the Evil Lady = a Sebetti queen, one of the leaders of the armies of Evil.

“Eberhard Schrader (1875) and Moritz Abraham Levy (1855) suggest that Lilith was a demon of the night, known also by the Jewish exiles in Babylon. Schrader's and Levy's view is therefore partly dependent on a later dating of Deutero-Isaiah to the 6th century BC, and the presence of Jews in Babylon which would coincide with the possible references to the Līlītu in Babylonian demonology. However, this view is challenged by some modern research such as by Judit M. Blair (2009) who considers that the context indicates unclean animals.”

>> Just look at those dates and how late they are chronologically. What are the chances of misunderstandings and mutations taking place for centuries before this version? Also, always check out the people involved in such studies, mostly whom is paying them = follow the money.

“Greek version

The Septuagint translates both the reference to lilith and the word for jackals or "wild beasts of the island" within the same verse into Greek as onokentauros, apparently assuming them as referring to the same creatures and gratuitously omitting "wildcats/wild beasts of the desert" (so, instead of the wildcats or desert beasts meeting with the jackals or island beasts, the goat or "satyr" crying "to his fellow" and lilith or "screech owl" resting "there", it is the goat or "satyr", translated as daimonia "demons", and the jackals or island beasts "onocentaurs" meeting with each other and crying "one to the other" and the latter resting there in the translation).”

>> See how different it can be? (((They))) played a lot with the text, didn’t (((they)))?

“Latin Bible

The early 5th-century Vulgate translated the same word as lamia.

et occurrent daemonia onocentauris et pilosus clamabit alter ad alterum ibi cubavit lamia et invenit sibi requiem

— Isaiah (Isaias Propheta) 34.14, Vulgate

The translation is, "And demons shall meet with monsters, and one hairy one shall cry out to another; there the lamia has lain down and found rest for herself".”

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055e8c  No.14304134

>>14304133

(Please read from the start)

“English versions

Wycliffe's Bible (1395) preserves the Latin rendering lamia:

Isa 34:15 Lamya schal ligge there, and foond rest there to hir silf.

The Bishops' Bible of Matthew Parker (1568) from the Latin:

Isa 34:14 there shall the Lamia lye and haue her lodgyng.

Douay–Rheims Bible (1582/1610) also preserves the Latin rendering lamia:

Isa 34:14 And demons and monsters shall meet, and the hairy ones shall cry out one to another, there hath the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself.

The Geneva Bible of William Whittingham (1587) from the Hebrew:

Isa 34:14 and the screech owl shall rest there, and shall finde for her selfe a quiet dwelling.

Then the King James Version (1611):

Isa 34:14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.

The "screech owl" translation of the King James Version is, together with the "owl" (yanšup, probably a water bird) in 34:11 and the "great owl" (qippoz, properly a snake) of 34:15, an attempt to render the passage by choosing suitable animals for difficult-to-translate Hebrew words.

Later translations include:

• night owl (Young, 1898)

• night spectre (Rotherham, Emphasized Bible, 1902)

• night monster (ASV, 1901; JPS 1917, Good News Translation, 1992; NASB, 1995)

• vampires (Moffatt Translation, 1922; Knox Bible, 1950)

• night hag (Revised Standard Version, 1947)

• Lilith (Jerusalem Bible, 1966)

• lilith (New American Bible, 1970)

• Lilith (New Revised Standard Version, 1989)

• Lilith (The Message (Bible), Peterson, 1993)

• night creature (New International Version, 1978; New King James Version, 1982; New Living Translation, 1996, Today's New International Version)

• nightjar (New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, 1984)

• night bird (English Standard Version, 2001)”

>> Looking at it overall, I think she was named night owl or something close to it because of the STOLEN wings she added to her armor.

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055e8c  No.14304145

>>14304134

(Please read from the start)

“Jewish tradition

Major sources in Jewish tradition regarding Lilith in chronological order include:

• c. 40–10 BC Dead Sea Scrolls – Songs for a Sage (4Q510–511)

• c. 200 Mishnah – not mentioned

• c. 500 Gemara of the Talmud

• c. 800 The Alphabet of Ben-Sira

• c. 900 Midrash Abkir

• c. 1260 Treatise on the Left Emanation, Spain

• c. 1280 Zohar, Spain.”

>> Look how LATE it is all chronologically. Anons, don’t you get it? = (((they))) wrote the Old Testament a.k.a. Jewish “religion” soooo late in history I honestly don’t care what you call (((their))) book = it’s all different names for the same and one thing. There is a clan out there that was spread all over the world = this clan wrote their “cult”/doctrine, religion = whatever you want to call it…. (((They))) wrote it in many versions because (((they))) were scattered = so each group spread in the world, wrote what (((they))) had/ what (((they))) knew. As we progressed chronologically and the people from all over the world created nations and these nation clashed or met….in the dark, behind the curtain, these different scattered groups met and (((they))) recognized one another for whom (((they))) are = followers of the Evil Couple. Best example I can give is when the Spanish met the Aztec = both groups immediately recognized whom the other really is. That’s why the Aztec royals were accepted and welcomed in the Spanish nobility.

“Dead Sea Scrolls

The Dead Sea Scrolls contain one indisputable reference to Lilith in Songs of the Sage (4Q510–511) fragment 1:

And I, the Instructor, proclaim His glorious splendour so as to frighten and to te[rrify] all the spirits of the destroying angels, spirits of the bastards, demons, Lilith, howlers, and [desert dwellers] … and those which fall upon men without warning to lead them astray from a spirit of understanding and to make their heart and their … desolate during the present dominion of wickedness and predetermined time of humiliations for the sons of lig[ht], by the guilt of the ages of [those] smitten by iniquity – not for eternal destruction, [bu]t for an era of humiliation for transgression.”

>> Twisted as ever.

“As with the Massoretic text of Isaiah 34:14, and therefore unlike the plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth) in the Isaiah scroll 34:14, lilit in 4Q510 is singular, this liturgical text both cautions against the presence of supernatural malevolence and assumes familiarity with Lilith; distinct from the biblical text, however, this passage does not function under any socio-political agenda, but instead serves in the same capacity as An Exorcism (4Q560) and Songs to Disperse Demons (11Q11). The text is thus, to a community "deeply involved in the realm of demonology", an exorcism hymn.”

>> The meaning is very obvious so I’m not going to explain…reading this is fun….as (((they))) twist and turn trying to “justify” everything and make it “fit”. The sentence: “to a community deeply involved in the realm of demonology” made me laugh till tears. Is this admission? Remember anons, we are talking about the precious Dead Sea Scroll of Judaism here.

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1898c1  No.14305353

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>>14304145

(Please read from the start)

“Joseph M. Baumgarten (1991) identified the unnamed woman of The Seductress (4Q184) as related to female demon. However, John J. Collins regards this identification as "intriguing" but that it is "safe to say" that (4Q184) is based on the strange woman of Proverbs 2, 5, 7, 9:

Her house sinks down to death,

And her course leads to the shades.

All who go to her cannot return

And find again the paths of life.

— Proverbs 2:18–19

Her gates are gates of death, and from the entrance of the house

She sets out towards Sheol.

None of those who enter there will ever return,

And all who possess her will descend to the Pit.

— 4Q184”

>> What if HOUSE here means the CLAN, as in a Sebetti Clan? What if we are talking here about the Evil Lady whom turned Evil and got cursed because of the crimes she committed? Everyone thinks the Devil is one person….but no one told you ever that it’s actually an EVIL DUO, both very wicked. I believe we have 2 Devils anons: one a female and one a male. And I believe (((their))) descendants were also confused, thinking it was one Evil master (((they))) were serving. (((They))) discovered at one point in History, it’s 2 Evil persons, not ONE.

“Early Rabbinic literature

Lilith does not occur in the Mishnah. There are five references to Lilith in the Babylonian Talmud in Gemara on three separate Tractates of the Mishnah:

• "Rav Judah citing Samuel ruled: If an abortion had the likeness of Lilith, its mother is unclean by reason of the birth, for it is a child even if it has wings." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Nidda 24b)

• "[Expounding upon the curses of womanhood] In a Baraitha it was taught: Women grow long hair like Lilith, sit when urinating like a beast, and serve as a bolster for her husband." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 100b)

• "For gira he should take an arrow of Lilith and place it point upwards and pour water on it and drink it. Alternatively he can take water of which a dog has drunk at night, but he must take care that it has not been exposed." (Babylonian Talmud, tractate Gittin 69b). In this particular case, the "arrow of Lilith" is most probably a scrap of meteorite or a fulgurite, colloquially known as "petrified lightning" and treated as antipyretic medicine.”

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1898c1  No.14305386

File: 1fc6a9b0c31d098⋯.jpg (86.96 KB, 650x614, 325:307, Sleeping_With_The_Devil_A_….jpg)

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>>14305353

(Please read from the start)

• "Rabbah said: I saw how Hormin the son of Lilith was running on the parapet of the wall of Mahuza, and a rider, galloping below on horseback could not overtake him. Once they saddled for him two mules which stood on two bridges of the Rognag; and he jumped from one to the other, backward and forward, holding in his hands two cups of wine, pouring alternately from one to the other, and not a drop fell to the ground." (Babylonian Talmud, tractate Bava Bathra 73a-b). Hormin who is mentioned here as the son of Lilith is most probably a result of a scribal error of the word "Hormiz" attested in some of the Talmudic manuscripts. The word itself in turn seems to be a distortion of Ormuzd, the Zendavestan deity of light and goodness. If so, it is somewhat ironic that Ormuzd becomes here the son of a nocturnal demon.

• "R. Hanina said: One may not sleep in a house alone [in a lonely house], and whoever sleeps in a house alone is seized by Lilith." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Shabbath 151b).”

>> “Arrows of Lilith” = I want to send back anons to page 965 - picture of upper register and then read about the weapons of the Wolf Sebetti Clan (Anubis starting at page 1 002). It’s about the types of weapons used by Sebettis 5 & 6 – mostly about the switching of the weapon places that occurred for them as was the same case for Sebettis 2 & 3. Then I want you to go check out once more Satis (starting page 1 015) = she was an archer. The Antelope Clan were archers and they also used some type of staff weapon = weapon number 5 on page 965 – upper register picture.

The image is getting clearer…we now understand how the Antelope warriors can throw balls of fire formed in between the horn rods = like flaming arrows and why they fight with a staff weapon as well. This also explains all the imagery we have of Satan in Hollywood, like in the movie Legend (1985), Hell Boy etc.

I’ve noticed that, during the Middle Ages, the Renaissance all the way to including the 19th century, MOST paintings and other representations depict the horned Devil in Black, mostly, or in dark tones. It’s only after WWII that we start seeing the Devil in Red. It does exist in red post WW2, in a few depictions, but as I just said, before this specific date, the Devil was mostly depicted in dark tones or in Black. It’s after WW2 that (((they))) discovered about the RED color being the color of the Evil Duo = becoming (((their))) symbol. That’s why we started to see the Devil represented with Red skin and not black anymore.

I’ve attached to the previous page a couple of paintings from Goya to show anons what I mean. And to this page, I’m attaching a few depictions of the “goat” Devil & co. from the Middle Ages. Watch the details. Look at all of those multi-morphs as well anons. And look how (((they))) are snatching the babies and how (((they))) are bribing others with power, money and sex. Check the rest of the imagery online if you are interested. Some demons are even females. Everything fits perfectly with the multi-morphs and with the Antelope Sebetti Clan.

If anons can find any red demons or devils in big quantity dating back before WW2 that I missed, please share, I’m interested in this. I want to know WHEN (((they))) discovered about the Red color of the Evil Couple.

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289197  No.14305676

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Pathogenic Priming

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589909020300186

For example, the H1N1 influenza vaccine used in Europe led to narcolepsy in some patients, resulting from homology between the human hypocretin (aka, orexin) receptor 2 molecule and proteins present in the vaccine. This was established via the detection of cross-reactive antibodies in the serum of patients who develop narcolepsy following H1N1 vaccination in Europe [5].

The fact that pathogenic priming may be occurring involving autoimmunity against multiple proteins following CoV vaccination is consistent with other observations observed during autoimmunity, including the release of proinflammatory cytokines and cytokine storm. Similar to the SARS-CoV animal studies [6], found that mice vaccinated against MERS-CoV (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) development exaggerated pulmonary immunopathology when challenged with the MERS virus following vaccination. They reported that lung mononuclear infiltrates were observed in all groups after virus challenge, and that increased infiltrates that contained eosinophils and the eosinophil promoting IL-5 and IL-13 cytokines were observed only in the vaccinated animals.

Pathogenic priming may be more or less severe in vaccine or infection induced immune responses to some proteins than for others due to original antigenic sin; the immunologic reaction against self-antigens may be made less severe as fast-evolving viruses evolve away from the original vaccine type. Thus, the screening of immunogenic epitopes for pathogenic priming potential via homology may be augmented by studies of autoantibodies that cross-react with epitopes included in vaccines.

SARS-CoV-2 has some unexplained pathogenic features that might be related to the table of putative pathogenic priming peptides. Exposure to these specific peptides - via either infection or vaccination - might prime patients for increased risk of enhanced pathogenicity during future exposure due either to future pandemic or outbreaks or via universal vaccination programs. While the mechanisms pathogenesis of COVID-19 are still poorly understood, the morbidity and mortality of SARS has been extensively studied. Thus, the involvement of pathogenic priming in re-infection by COVID-19 is a theoretical possibility; of course no vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 has yet been tested in animals and therefore we do not yet know if pathogenic priming is in fact expected. Such studies should be undertaken before use of any vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 is used in humans.

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2e8bbd  No.14312308

>>14305386

(Please read from the start)

Also anons, I think the interpretation about “Hormin son of Lilith” given in here is wrong. Just be careful when you handle such material because don’t forget whom wrote these things and how many times it was edited. We don’t know how they manipulated and changed the text and whom wrote this.

And look how (((they))) try to “explain” the inconsistency of the few lines written about Hormin son of Lilith: “Hormin who is mentioned here as the son of Lilith is most probably a result of a scribal error of the word "Hormiz" attested in some of the Talmudic manuscripts. The word itself in turn seems to be a distortion of Ormuzd, the Zendavestan deity of light and goodness.”

LoL! This is the joke of the century. So (((they))) turned a son of a demon into a son of Light and goodness and since everyone reading is a Sheep…. I love it how (((they))) admit here of “scribal error” and of “SEEMS to be a DISTORTION”. This is how the Talmud, Torah and the rest of (((their))) books are ALL written, including the Old Testament. So when (((they))) are unable to make things coherent, (((they))) use this excuse….but everything else is crystal clear and pure truth. It’s just 2 sentences that are not clear due to small errors. Keep on going Sheep.

If the reader hasn’t realized it yet, everything about Judaism = (((their))) cult is written, done this way. EVERYTHING. It’s one big mess of patch-work and distortion, including the history of the Jews. I don’t know about you anons, but if one day, Potus, by some miracle, asks me which book I would like to read. I will tell him = the Real Bible, the Authentic Bible. I know it exists somewhere, or at least a few pages of it. But all an old man like me can do is to put a smile on his face, pretend nothing is wrong and just keep on dreaming for a better tomorrow.

“The above statement by Hanina may be related to the belief that nocturnal emissions engendered the birth of demons:

• "R. Jeremiah b. Eleazar further stated: In all those years [130 years after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden] during which Adam was under the ban he begot ghosts and male demons and female demons [or night demons], for it is said in Scripture: And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years and begot a son in own likeness, after his own image, from which it follows that until that time he did not beget after his own image … When he saw that through him death was ordained as punishment he spent a hundred and thirty years in fasting, severed connection with his wife for a hundred and thirty years, and wore clothes of fig on his body for a hundred and thirty years. – That statement [of R. Jeremiah] was made in reference to the semen which he emitted accidentally." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 18b)”

>> This is telling me that the Evil One has at least ONE offspring. For such a long period of time = 130 years, he had only ONE offspring. I wonder if this is connected to the Dogon tales and the genetic illness the Evil One had. Also, why did he “severed connection with his wife”? What happened that “forced” them to separate? Was it because of the Cataclysm? Did the Cataclysm separate them?

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2e8bbd  No.14312317

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>>14312308

(Please read from the start)

“The Midrash Rabbah collection contains two references to Lilith. The first one is present in Genesis Rabbah 22:7 and 18:4: according to Rabbi Hiyya God proceeded to create a second Eve for Adam, after Lilith had to return to dust. However, to be exact the said passages do not employ the Hebrew word lilith itself and instead speak of "the first Eve" (Heb. Chavvah ha-Rishonah, analogically to the phrase Adam ha-Rishon, i.e. the first Adam). Although in the medieval Hebrew literature and folklore, especially that reflected on the protective amulets of various kinds, Chavvah ha-Rishonah was identified with Lilith, one should remain careful in transposing this equation to the Late Antiquity.”

>> This is making me believe more and more that we are talking about the same woman here whom was good and nice at first, then she “turned” to evil and became mean. We have 2 faces of the same person here.

“The second mention of Lilith, this time explicit, is present in Numbers Rabbah 16:25. The midrash develops the story of Moses's plea after God expresses anger at the bad report of the spies. Moses responds to a threat by God that He will destroy the Israelite people. Moses pleads before God, that God should not be like Lilith who kills her own children. Moses said:

[God,] do not do it [i.e. destroy the Israelite people], that the nations of the world may not regard you as a cruel Being and say: 'The Generation of the Flood came and He destroyed them, the Generation of the Separation came and He destroyed them, the Sodomites and the Egyptians came and He destroyed them, and these also, whom he called My son, My firstborn (Ex. IV, 22), He is now destroying! As that Lilith who, when she finds nothing else, turns upon her own children, so Because the Lord was not able to bring this people into the land… He hath slain them' (Num. XIV, 16)!”

>> Wow! This one is big! SPIES!?!? Why God needs spies? Why does our Heavenly Father needs to spy on His “supposed” chosen people? Why doesn’t He trust them and needs to spy on them? Isn’t it odd? Mostly when we know that our Heavenly Father can see everything and is everywhere, in everything. Our Heavenly Father can communicate from the inside to us = I think some call it telepathy, so why does He need spies? Because this is not about our Heavenly Father.

Here we are talking about the Evil One and his spies. Why and when do you need a spy? = to spy on an enemy = collecting data/information to tip the war/conflict in your favor. You can also use these spies to sabotage your enemy. So what does it mean here? Does it mean (((their))) god didn’t trust them and send spies amongst (((them)))? Does he sees his people as dangerous and cannot be trusted to send spies? This speaks volumes anons, this speaks volumes.

Whom is this “firstborn” mentioned here? Is He/She one of the Sebetti? Is this the offspring of the King of kings whom plotted to kill their father and mother and take the throne from them? And the Jews + Bloodlines are the descendants of this Evil Couple? Loads to think about here.

Take a look at this sentence anons: “As that Lilith who, when she finds nothing else, turns upon her own children”; what does it mean? Does it mean each time she gets angry Lilith takes it out on her children? = beats them up? Or is it her subordinates? Or are they saying when Lilith runs out of children to eat, she eats her own children, is that it? How should I understand this sentence? And how the heck Moses knew of this, mostly the pedovore stuff?

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5812dc  No.14323224

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>>14312317

(Please read from the start)

Why our Heavenly Father cannot bring the people to the Land? = “Because the Lord was not able to bring this people into the land… He hath slain them'”. Darn it anons. That’s one nasty god Moses has to deal with here, with a nasty temper on top of everything. This doesn’t project the image of a loving, caring God of Creation, doesn’t it? I see an angry god with a short temper whom is unforgiving and holds a grudge. This god is strange, since he cannot himself, bring the people to the land = wonder where his powers went to? – he takes it out on his people. So in other words, he’s the one whom failed here to do the “task” but lashes out on his people whom he also spies on. Chuckles! Sounds like an episode from the Game of Thrones series. And here you go Moses, trying to sooth this angry god and trying to make him see reason and not take it out on his people. Gosh! If there is one thing I’m sure of about our Heavenly Father is that He is very tender and loving. This is now the image of our Heavenly Father being projected here, but the image of a spiteful, nasty god (with a minor g). It’s so obvious whom Moses is talking to and about here.

“Incantation bowls

An individual Lilith, along with Bagdana "king of the lilits", is one of the demons to feature prominently in protective spells in the eighty surviving Jewish occult incantation bowls from Sassanid Empire Babylon (4th–6th century AD) with influence from Iranian culture. These bowls were buried upside down below the structure of the house or on the land of the house, in order to trap the demon or demoness. Almost every house was found to have such protective bowls against demons and demonesses.”

>> As I’ve said before, Lilith doesn’t seem like a name name, but a descriptive type of name. Here, we are told that the leader of the Lilith was a king, a man. I’m wondering to which period in time this is referring to because this comes from the Saddanid period. I mean are they pointing here to before the Cataclysm occurred; as in the Lilith had a king back then? Or are they pointing to the leader of the Lilith (=demons) during the Sasanid period?

From all that I’ve read from Pazuzu and the likes….and from the different Sebetti warriors like Bes and the likes….there is a pattern, like an idea that keeps on repeating itself over and over = the Horned Serpent warriors, and the descendants of the coup plotters, kept on “snatching” = kidnapping children and babies, sometimes even pregnant women. From the sound of it, this has been going on for an extremely long time = the pedovores are the ones “snatching” the children from way before the Cataclysm and it continued after the Cataclysm, all the way till now.

“The centre of the inside of the bowl depicts Lilith, or the male form, Lilit. Surrounding the image is writing in spiral form; the writing often begins at the centre and works its way to the edge. The writing is most commonly scripture or references to the Talmud. The incantation bowls which have been analysed, are inscribed in the following languages, Jewish Babylonian Aramaic, Syriac, Mandaic, Middle Persian, and Arabic. Some bowls are written in a false script which has no meaning.”

>> Now I would really like to take a look at those bowls with a “false script which has no meaning”.

Let’s take a look at the drawing on the bowl: it’s male, wearing some clothes = tunic and his hair is Mireille Mathieu’s style. Looks like he’s got 3 “horns” on his head. With his left hand, he is brandishing high up what looks like a tree branch. But I don’t think this is really a tree branch because of the striations we see on the branch, the arms and the legs. I think these might be the same thing = made of the same material as in metal (probably). As for the spikes coming out of the staff he is holding, I think this is electricity = this is my Sharur weapon he is holding.

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5812dc  No.14323267

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>>14323224

(Please read from the start)

“The correctly worded incantation bowl was capable of warding off Lilith or Lilit from the household. Lilith had the power to transform into a woman's physical features, seduce her husband, and conceive a child. However, Lilith would become hateful towards the children born of the husband and wife and would seek to kill them. Similarly, Lilit would transform into the physical features of the husband, seduce the wife, she would give birth to a child. It would become evident that the child was not fathered by the husband, and the child would be looked down on. Lilit would seek revenge on the family by killing the children born to the husband and wife.”

>> This is talking about the pedovores anons. Read between the lines.

“Key features of the depiction of Lilith or Lilit include the following. The figure is often depicted with arms and legs chained, indicating the control of the family over the demon(ess). The demon(ess) is depicted in a frontal position with the whole face showing. The eyes are very large, as well as the hands (if depicted). The demon(ess) is entirely static.

One bowl contains the following inscription commissioned from a Jewish occultist to protect a woman called Rashnoi and her husband from Lilith:

Thou liliths, male lili and female lilith, hag and ghool, I adjure you by the Strong One of Abraham, by the Rock of Isaac, by the Shaddai of Jacob, by Yah Ha-Shem by Yah his memorial, to turn away from this Rashnoi b. M. and from Geyonai b. M. her husband. [Here is] your divorce and writ and letter of separation, sent through holy angels. Amen, Amen, Selah, Halleluyah! (image)

— Excerpt from translation in Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur James Alan Montgomery 2011 p. 156”

Alphabet of Ben Sira

The pseudepigraphical 8th–10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira is considered to be the oldest form of the story of Lilith as Adam's first wife. Whether this particular tradition is older is not known. Scholars tend to date the Alphabet between the 8th and 10th centuries AD. The work has been characterised as satirical.”

>> Look at the date = so late. And of course no knows anything for sure about anything when Judaism is concerned. It’s clear as mud, like always.

“In the text an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels (Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof) and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision. The amulets used against Lilith that were thought to derive from this tradition are, in fact, dated as being much older. The concept of Eve having a predecessor is not exclusive to the Alphabet, and is not a new concept, as it can be found in Genesis Rabbah. However, the idea that Lilith was the predecessor may be exclusive to the Alphabet.”

>> They say the tradition is older, much older but, they don’t give us a date in this Wikipedia page. Incredible! Then they say it’s not a new concept, but…again….no clear indications. Everything is clear as mud once more when Judaism is concerned; it gets even clearer with the history of the Jews.

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5812dc  No.14323451

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>>14323267

(Please read from the start)

“The idea in the text that Adam had a wife prior to Eve may have developed from an interpretation of the Book of Genesis and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates that a woman had been made: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." The Alphabet text places Lilith's creation after God's words in Genesis 2:18 that "it is not good for man to be alone"; in this text God forms Lilith out of the clay from which he made Adam but she and Adam bicker. Lilith claims that since she and Adam were created in the same way they were equal and she refuses to submit to him:

After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, "It is not good for man to be alone." He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, "I will not lie below," and he said, "I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one." Lilith responded, "We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth." But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air.

Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: "Sovereign of the universe!" he said, "the woman you gave me has run away." At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, to bring her back.

Said the Holy One to Adam, "If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not, she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day." The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, "We shall drown you in the sea."

"Leave me!' she said. "I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days."

When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: "Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant." She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers.”

>> Sounds like the Great Flood waters here, created from the Cataclysm, reminding me of the Red Sea and how it was formed and how the water engulfed everything as it came rushing in. Another hint to the Red Sea is when (((they))) point out to the “Egyptians were destined to drown” = pointing to the fairytale of Moses and how the Red Sea supposedly separated so that the Jews could cross, while the waters killed the Pharaoh and his army which were in pursuit. The Pharaoh and his army all supposedly died, drowned according to the Old Testament tales about Moses.

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5812dc  No.14323513

>>14323451

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But, when a few decades ago, it was discovered that the Pharaoh in the fairytale of Moses was none other than Ramses II, the Jews started to change the tune of the Pharaoh dying because Ramses II lived to be 94 years old if my memory is not betraying me. In order to cover the discovered lie, (((they))) started to say that only the Egyptian army perished and the Pharaoh survived. And of course Hollywood chimed in and started to change things in the movies and show the Pharaoh survived somehow. That discovery about Ramses II blew a HUGE hole in the authenticity of Moses’ tale. It sent it down the drain and it shed a huge spotlight to the fabricated lie which is this tale. I’m not saying those words randomly. I know what I’m talking about.

As I’ve said, I think Eve was the Evil Lady before she turned/transformed and Lilith is the new evil her after she joined the Evil One. It’s the same thing with Adam where he was good at first, but when he turned Evil, he became the Serpent or the Dragon or whatever you want to call it. Anons are going to tell me: But Lilith came before Eve? Well, that’s according to (((them))) and how (((they))) interpret things. See anons, even (((them))) = the Bloodlines after the Cataclysm, (((their))) descendants, (((they))) didn’t know everything nor exactly how things happened. The Cataclysm wiped everything and everyone, so just like us, (((they))) were in the dark partially at least, mostly to the details of how and what happened. It’s by collecting records, keeping records, collecting artifacts and also contacting the “other side” etc., that (((they))) managed to put things together and start to know the truth about the events that took place before and after the Cataclysm. And this “acquired” knowledge (((they))) kept it to themselves and (((they))) interpreted things as (((they))) saw it benefitting (((them))). Just look to what (((they))) did to Isis and how (((they))) totally disfigured her cult, to understand what I mean here.

From what is said here, it looks like there was a disagreement on whom was the big boss and this seems to have created a rift between the Evil Couple. We already know there was some type of failure in the plan: the Evil One did kill the King of kings and even ate a part of him. But the Evil Lady couldn’t kill the Queen of queens and this is a failure from her part to apply the plan. Was this the cause of the rift between the Evil Couple? Or was it about whom was the big boss as it’s hinted in this paragraph?

When you read this, Lilith doesn’t seem to have committed a very grave sin or crime- it sounds like that. Our Heavenly Father gave us something called Free Will = the power to choose but here, Lilith was stripped from that right. She didn’t have the right to protest, disagree and leave, because this is not the story of our Heavenly Father creating the first man and his lady. This is the story of the Evil Couple nicely embellished with sugar coating by the descendants of the coup plotters. It’s like (((they))) are using make-up on a pig to make it look like the winner of Miss Universe pageant = painting a horrible crime and events under a good light. I also find it interesting how Lilith was only interested in Children, not anything else. It’s like she had a hobby about collecting children. This is so obvious anons. The long time reader understands this very easily. This text is written by (((them))) anons, we are seeing it through (((their))) eyes.

“The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud, it may have been a collection of folk-tales, a refutation of Christian, Karaite, or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire, although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany. In turn, other scholars argue that the target of the Alphabet's satire is very difficult to establish exactly because of the variety of the figures and values ridiculed therein: criticism is actually directed against Adam, who turns out to be weak and ineffective in his relations with his wife. Apparently, the first man is not the only male figure who is mocked: even God cannot subjugate Lilith and needs to ask his messengers, who only manage to go as far as negotiating the conditions of the agreement.”

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a6b6b4  No.14323794

is twatter down for anyone else?

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6383f9  No.14333456

>>14323513

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>> This paragraph is very funny. They are wondering about the background and the purpose of this Alphabet of Ben-Sira…really?! See how (((they))) play tricks anons. It all depends on whom wrote this, right? There are factions and sub-factions even among (((their))) ranks.

“The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of German scholar Johannes Buxtorf.”

>> This is very modern and it shows how (((they))) are researching (((their))) own past and discovering things gradually. It fits well with the “tasks” Jacques de Morgan had to do during his trips.

“In this folk tradition that arose in the early Middle Ages Lilith, a dominant female demon, became identified with Asmodeus, King of Demons, as his queen. Asmodeus was already well known by this time because of the legends about him in the Talmud. Thus, the merging of Lilith and Asmodeus was inevitable. The second myth of Lilith grew to include legends about another world and by some accounts this other world existed side by side with this one, Yenne Velt is Yiddish for this described "Other World". In this case Asmodeus and Lilith were believed to procreate demonic offspring endlessly and spread chaos at every turn.”

>> Just like we have with Osiris, Neith and Lilith, I don’t think Asmodeus is the name name of this demon king. I doubt it to be his name. It is going to turn out like what we found about the rest: an epithet, a descriptive or a title etc.

It’s very interesting how Lilith is the “queen” of his demon king. It fits perfectly with the story of the Evil Couple I’ve been telling you about. I wonder what this “Other World” truly means here. Is it Atlantis? = as a world existed before it was destroyed by a Cataclysm? Or is this referring to another realm, another type of existence, like the Spiritual one? Or is this point to another “planet” where humans lived, in the same time as on Earth, before the Cataclysm? = I mean did the humans inhabited several planets in the Solar system? This is an interesting idea, isn’t it? I find it funny how (((they))) used to word “Legend” to “tell” the stories about Asmodeus in the Talmud. See how (((they))) play with your mind.

“Two primary characteristics are seen in these legends about Lilith: Lilith as the incarnation of lust, causing men to be led astray, and Lilith as a child-killing witch, who strangles helpless neonates. These two aspects of the Lilith legend seemed to have evolved separately; there is hardly a tale where she encompasses both roles. But the aspect of the witch-like role that Lilith plays broadens her archetype of the destructive side of witchcraft. Such stories are commonly found among Jewish folklore.”

>> I already explained about the pedovore and the lust issues. Seems Lilith was the first Dark Witch here. I do love it how it’s admitted that such “stories” are “common in “Jewish folklore”.

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6383f9  No.14333463

>>14333456

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“The influence of the rabbinic traditions

Although the image of Lilith of the Alphabet of Ben Sira is unprecedented, some elements in her portrayal can be traced back to the talmudic and midrashic traditions that arose around Eve:

1. First and foremost, the very introduction of Lilith to the creation story rests on the rabbinic myth, prompted by the two separate creation accounts in Genesis 1:1–2:25, that there were two original women. A way of resolving the apparent discrepancy between these two accounts was to assume that there must have been some other first woman, apart from the one later identified with Eve. The Rabbis, noting Adam's exclamation, "this time (zot hapa‘am) [this is] bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" (Genesis 2:23), took it as an intimation that there must already have been a "first time". According to Genesis rabah 18:4, Adam was disgusted upon seeing the first woman full of "discharge and blood", and God had to provide him with another one. The subsequent creation is performed with adequate precautions: Adam is made to sleep, so as not to witness the process itself ( Sanhedrin 39a), and Eve is adorned with fine jewellery (Genesis rabah 18:1) and brought to Adam by the angels Gabriel and Michael (ibid. 18:3). However, nowhere do the rabbis specify what happened to the first woman, leaving the matter open for further speculation. This is the gap into which the later tradition of Lilith could fit.

2. Second, this new woman is still met with harsh rabbinic allegations. Again playing on the Hebrew phrase zot hapa‘am, Adam, according to the same midrash, declares: "it is she [zot] who is destined to strike the bell [zog] and to speak [in strife] against me, as you read, 'a golden bell [pa‘amon] and a pomegranate' [Exodus 28:34] … it is she who will trouble me [mefa‘amtani] all night" (Genesis Rabbah 18:4). The first woman also becomes the object of accusations ascribed to Rabbi Joshua of Siknin, according to whom Eve, despite the divine efforts, turned out to be "swelled-headed, coquette, eavesdropper, gossip, prone to jealousy, light-fingered and gadabout" (Genesis Rabbah 18:2). A similar set of charges appears in Genesis Rabbah 17:8, according to which Eve's creation from Adam's rib rather than from the earth makes her inferior to Adam and never satisfied with anything.

3. Third, and despite the terseness of the biblical text in this regard, the erotic iniquities attributed to Eve constitute a separate category of her shortcomings. Told in Genesis 3:16 that "your desire shall be for your husband", she is accused by the Rabbis of having an overdeveloped sexual drive (Genesis Rabhah 20:7) and constantly enticing Adam (Genesis Rabbab 23:5). However, in terms of textual popularity and dissemination, the motif of Eve copulating with the primeval serpent takes priority over her other sexual transgressions. Despite the rather unsettling picturesqueness of this account, it is conveyed in numerous places: Genesis Rabbah 18:6, and BT Sotah 9b, Shabbat 145b–146a and 156a, Yevamot 103b and Avodah Zarah 22b.”

>> This is a little treasure we have here anons, mostly the third point. This is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell anons about Eve and Lilith are one and the same = the Evil Lady. LUST = sex, not just any sex, but perverted sex is what turned the naïve, innocent Sebetti queen into the lustful pedovore the Evil Lady became. This is how she was turned via seduction and lust by the Evil One. He turned on his own because of his sickness. He wasn’t like that at first, he was like Adam, but then when his sickness kicked in, he turned into the Serpent which seduced Eve and turned her into Lilith = the Evil Lady. This section says it all, please re-read and read carefully. You gotta see it under a new light.

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6383f9  No.14333529

>>14333463

(Please read from the start)

“Kabbalah

Kabbalistic mysticism attempted to establish a more exact relationship between Lilith and God. With her major characteristics having been well developed by the end of the Talmudic period, after six centuries had elapsed between the Aramaic incantation texts that mention Lilith and the early Spanish Kabbalistic writings in the 13th century, she reappears, and her life history becomes known in greater mythological detail. Her creation is described in many alternative versions.”

>> This paragraph is a real beauty. Look how carefully it’s worded. So now we are going to hear (((their))) story is about her.

“One mentions her creation as being before Adam's, on the fifth day, because the "living creatures" with whose swarms God filled the waters included Lilith. A similar version, related to the earlier Talmudic passages, recounts how Lilith was fashioned with the same substance as Adam was, shortly before. A third alternative version states that God originally created Adam and Lilith in a manner that the female creature was contained in the male. Lilith's soul was lodged in the depths of the Great Abyss. When God called her, she joined Adam. After Adam's body was created a thousand souls from the Left (evil) side attempted to attach themselves to him. However, God drove them off. Adam was left lying as a body without a soul. Then a cloud descended and God commanded the earth to produce a living soul. This God breathed into Adam, who began to spring to life and his female was attached to his side. God separated the female from Adam's side. The female side was Lilith, whereupon she flew to the Cities of the Sea and attacked humankind.”

>> From this, it seems Lilith = Evil Lady was born before the Evil One!?!?!?! The “waters” mentioned, are they the waters of the Flood that was part of the Cataclysm? Then there is this interesting detail: “whereupon she flew to the Cities of the Sea and attacked humankind” = I understand she either was on a plane or most probably she had wings stolen from the military tech of the ThunderBirds.

“The Cities of the Sea” = Can you guess which cities (((they))) are talking about here? The Phoenician City-States were referred in 2 ways in the Akkadian period, but it’s believe the Akkadians took it from the Sumerians; meaning it’s way older than what is officially admitted.

The Phoenician City-States were called either:

1 – The Cities of the Coast/ Cities near the Sea.

2 – lbnn = Lebanon; which means WHITE TOPS/white summits/white heads/white hats. This is in reference to Mount-Lebanon mountain chain and the Anti-Lebanon mountain chain being both covered in snow = having their summits = tops = heads all white = covered in snow during the winter.

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8d106d  No.14343162

>>14333529

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Till this day, the people of Lebanon call yogurt “Laban” (I have the name in French), in the West we call it wrongfully Greek Yogort, but this was never Greek to begin with. It is believe that this first emerged in the Phoenician City-States and it was called this way due to its resemblance to the white snow peaks of Mount Lebanon Mountain Chain. When you do culinary research, this is what you will find out. But of course, it is forbidden to name a product after Lebanon, so instead, (((they))) called it Greek yogurt or yogurt, and (((they))) made that word trendy. (((They))) don’t want you to use to real name because it refers back to Lebanon. And nobody even cares or bothers to research such things and find out the truth behind them.

Anyways, let’s go back to what Lilith did = from what is written here, it seems Lilith FLEW had ATTACKED the Phoenician City-States. Whom do you attack usually: your friend or your foe?

Do you remember Neith = Baalat of Gebal? She is the Queen of queens, leader of the ThunderBirds and the rest of the Light warriors where was battling the Horned Serpent army (seen on 2 dogs palette). She left Ancient Egypt for some time as we’ve seen before and talked about before; and she went to a Phoenician City-State called Gebal where she lived for some time. I’ve been wondering what drove her to leave Ancient Egypt while the battle was still raging with the Horned Serpents: remember anons, this was not settled in a couple of years. This battle lasted a long time after the Cataclysm occured.

Now let’s put the 2 ideas together along with a third one seen before:

Lilith = Queen of demons, attacks the City-States of the coast = Phoenician City-States. Neith recognize that a Sebetti is involved in the attack and goes to Phoenicia. Why am I saying this? Because no one can be a match to a Sebetti in power…apart a Sebetti. They are Champions of the Champions. The armies they have are elite armies made of elite soldiers, but they = themselves = the Sebettis have exceptional powers among the exceptional. They are the top of the top warriors. So only a Sebetti ruler can take down a Sebetti ruler. Neith, recognized Lilith when she attacked the Phoenician City-States.

Earlier, we read that Anzu bird “ran away” (page 1 182) towards a mountain. I said it was most probably the South-East Taurus = as in going upstream the Euphrates River and it’s not the Lebanese mountain chain. But I was wrong. It seems there was a confrontation between the 2 female Sebettis in that area = Phoenicia, which is current day Lebanon = a mountainous country. Why did the Anzu Bird fly away there with his YOUNG? And why did Neith settle there for some time? It’s as if she came to the aid or rescue of the Phoenician City-States.

The question is: Why in the first place Lilith attacked the Phoenician City-States?

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8d106d  No.14343175

>>14343162

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Remember anons, this is a time before what we know as recorded History. This is pre-pre-dynastic Ancient Egypt and the same goes to Phoenicia. It’s a rough estimation from my part, but we are talking here something between 7000 and 3000 B.C. – maybe even a bit older. Take note, keep this notion in mind. I’m going to explain to you why she attacked later on, first I gotta finish with this Evil Lady = put her under the microscope.

“Yet another version claims that Lilith emerged as a divine entity that was born spontaneously, either out of the Great Supernal Abyss or out of the power of an aspect of God (the Gevurah of Din). This aspect of God was negative and punitive, as well as one of his ten attributes (Sefirot), at its lowest manifestation has an affinity with the realm of evil and it is out of this that Lilith merged with Samael.”

>> I believe this is when the Evil Couple transformed = turned Evil. “Lilith merged with Samael” = as in she became Evil as him. I wonder if this transformation from good to evil of both of the Evil Duo is not the starting point of the Opposite duality concept the Bloodlines like so much.

“An alternative story links Lilith with the creation of luminaries. The "first light", which is the light of Mercy (one of the Sefirot), appeared on the first day of creation when God said "Let there be light". This light became hidden and the Holiness became surrounded by a husk of evil. "A husk (klippa) was created around the brain" and this husk spread and brought out another husk, which was Lilith.”

>> I’m not sure what could this really mean, but there is a possibility this is referring to the Serpent Sebetti carrying a lamp with 7 dots of lights (as seen on the bronze Plaque from Hell). So there is a possibility both ideas might be connected.

“Midrash ABKIR

The first medieval source to depict Adam and Lilith in full was the Midrash A.B.K.I.R. (c. 10th century), which was followed by the Zohar and other Kabbalistic writings. Adam is said to be perfect until he recognises either his sin or Cain's fratricide that is the cause of bringing death into the world. He then separates from holy Eve, sleeps alone, and fasts for 130 years. During this time "Pizna", either an alternate name for Lilith or a daughter of hers, desires his beauty and seduces him against his will. She gives birth to multitudes of djinns and demons, the first of them being named Agrimas. However, they are defeated by Methuselah, who slays thousands of them with a holy sword and forces Agrimas to give him the names of the rest, after which he casts them away to the sea and the mountains.”

>> I’ve already commented about Adam being the Evil One before his illness showed up. The rest is clear = the Evil Couple gave birth to evil children. Seems most were killed though or they died somehow. Maybe Neith and the warriors of the Light went after them, but I don’t see them doing something as cruel as killing children. Or they died because of the illness of the Evil One. Remember Albert Pike and henry VIII children; well, it makes sense how most died. I wonder if Lilith kept on having children from other men after the death of the Evil One? As for the date: 10th century AD, now that’s pretty late chronologically.

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8d106d  No.14343193

>>14343175

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“Treatise on the Left Emanation

The mystical writing of two brothers Jacob and Isaac Hacohen, Treatise on the Left Emanation, which predates the Zohar by a few decades, states that Samael and Lilith are in the shape of an androgynous being, double-faced, born out of the emanation of the Throne of Glory and corresponding in the spiritual realm to Adam and Eve, who were likewise born as a hermaphrodite. The two twin androgynous couples resembled each other and both "were like the image of Above"; that is, that they are reproduced in a visible form of an androgynous deity.

19. In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces.”

>> Thank you Jacob and Issac Hacohen for confirming what I’ve been talking about. Eve is the naïve, innocent, pure, good Sebetti queen, she became Lilith = queen of demons after she was seduced by the Evil One. Adam is the Sebetti king whom was nice until his illness showed up, which couldn’t be cured, and it turned him Evil and corrupted him. In turn, he was the one whom “turned” Eve into Lilith. We don’t have 4 people here anons, but 2 seen when they were good, then seen once more when they became evil. And what these Hacohen brothers are talking about is just that. There are no androgynous humans and these 2 are not hermaphrodite. They simply switched from good to evil = from light to darkness. What switched was their spirit, their soul, their hearts and their minds.

Here, I don’t know why, but it’s making me feel like they are talking about siblings, as in a brother and a sister. When they say : “born out of the emanation of the throne of God” are they saying here the Evil Couple were the children of the King of kings? Did they commit incest? This notion keeps on re-occurring. I will explain about the THRONE of GOD and the King of kings when I reach that point, for now take notes; or at least keep it in mind. Yes, there is an explanation for it all.

“Another version that was also current among Kabbalistic circles in the Middle Ages establishes Lilith as the first of Samael's four wives: Lilith, Naamah, Eisheth, and Agrat bat Mahlat. Each of them are mothers of demons and have their own hosts and unclean spirits in no number. The marriage of archangel Samael and Lilith was arranged by "Blind Dragon", who is the counterpart of "the dragon that is in the sea". Blind Dragon acts as an intermediary between Lilith and Samael:

Blind Dragon rides Lilith the Sinful – may she be extirpated quickly in our days, Amen! – And this Blind Dragon brings about the union between Samael and Lilith. And just as the Dragon that is in the sea (Isa. 27:1) has no eyes, likewise Blind Dragon that is above, in the likeness of a spiritual form, is without eyes, that is to say, without colors…. (Patai 81:458) Samael is called the Slant Serpent, and Lilith is called the Tortuous Serpent.”

>> Polygamy… I’m not surprised at all since (((they))) were the ones whom introduced this idea into Islam. Having orgy parties is (((their))) thing after all, including the sacred prostitution that used to be practiced in Antiquity. But I wonder if “the first” doesn’t point to her rank and not the order of the wives = which one he married first.

Also the Dragon with no eyes….is this pointing to the blasters? Remember how the Seraphim and others were all covered with eyes? Humbaba was also tricked by Gilgamesh to relinquish his 7 auras/splendors. So yes, I think the chances are high this is pointing to the blasters of the Horned Serpent’s armors.

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8d106d  No.14343203

>>14343193

(Please read from the start)

“The marriage of Samael and Lilith is known as the "Angel Satan" or the "Other God", but it was not allowed to last. To prevent Lilith and Samael's demonic children Lilin from filling the world, God castrated Samael. In many 17th century Kabbalistic books, this seems to be a reinterpretation of an old Talmudic myth where God castrated the male Leviathan and slew the female Leviathan in order to prevent them from mating and thereby destroying the Earth with their offspring.With Lilith being unable to fornicate with Samael anymore, she sought to couple with men who experience nocturnal emissions. A 15th or 16th century Kabbalah text states that God has "cooled" the female Leviathan, meaning that he has made Lilith infertile and she is a mere fornication.”

>> As I’ve been saying, this “union”, either marriage or sexual, was NOT ACCEPTED. I think the reason behind this refusal is incest. We have 3 options here for the incest:

1 – Brother/Sister incest.

2 – Uncle/Niece incest.

3 – Aunt/Nephew incest.

With what I’ve got so far, it seems it’s the first option. This is open to re-evaluation depending on the information gathered.

Samael is called “the Other God” = the one that is NOT our Heavenly Father and we see him in the Old Testament as the god of the Jews, the one whom talked with Abraham and with Moses etc. The Leviathan being castrated reminds me of Seth. I don’t think he = Samael cannot have children at all, because the Evil Couple did have at least one descendant. I see this as it being difficulty, extremely difficult for him to have children. He can have children but with difficulty = it’s rare and hard. This is a consequence/ result of his incurable genetic illness.

This is written quite late chronologically. The late date indicates when (((they))) were discovering things (((themselves)))). It indicates that even (((they))) didn’t know much or details of what took place long ago and (((they))) were discovering things gradually. But instead of sharing this new information with the rest of humanity, (((they))) kept it for (((themselves))) and kept us in the dark. I believe even (((they))) didn’t know the truth of what really happened from the get go, just got a vague idea and it wasn’t easy for (((them))) to understand the old text/information left behind by the coup plotters whom survived the Cataclysm. When reading about Raziel (pages 1 135-1136) it was said that he gave the book of knowledge to Adam and Eve, meaning he gave to the Evil Couple the stolen information, including the military one for the armors. That book was lost somewhere in the area of the Red Sea, then (((their))) descendants found it once more, as in the knowledge was lost and it was refound. It’s linked, connected. And this shows that Adam and Eve are the first man and woman of their Bloodline = the first of their KIND = the Evil Couple are the founding mother and father of their “Dynasty” and clan.

We also know at least one of the two was killed. We’ve seen this notion before, but now we are hearing it from (((their))) writings. I’m intrigued with the word “cooled” used here. Because we’ve seen “cooling” before with the mercury lake under the pyramid of the serpent in Teotihuacan (page 299) and then on page 1 011, when I was trying to guess what the cooling “agent” used could be, when talking about Kebechet. We’ve also seen echoes of “being frozen to sleep” in the cartoon The Mysterious Cities of Gold, technology used by the Olmecs.

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3e8078  No.14348861

>>14343203

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The last thing I want to draw attention to is the “fornication” issue of the Evil Lady. I’ve tried to use polite words before, like “lust”… but anons gotta understand, this lady became a sex addict, not any sex addict, but the worst type ever. Like what you will ask me? Like the type of perverted sex and horrific things that used to take place under Epstein island temple. So when I say this lady was addicted to sex, has a sexual side to her or is lustful, I don’t mean it in a simple and “clean” way. I mean it’s the most horrible thing ever you can imagine about sex, just like how nowadays Bloodlines practice these perversions.

“The Treatise on the Left Emanation also says that there are two Liliths, the lesser being married to the great demon Asmodeus.

The Matron Lilith is the mate of Samael. Both of them were born at the same hour in the image of Adam and Eve, intertwined in each other. Asmodeus the great king of the demons has as a mate the Lesser (younger) Lilith, daughter of the king whose name is Qafsefoni. The name of his mate is Mehetabel daughter of Matred, and their daughter is Lilith.”

>> Here the word Lilith is used in a double meaning = as a name and as a synonym for demons. (((They))) are also giving names here, but I really doubt these are the true names of the King of kings and the Queen of queens. The Lesser (younger) Lilith = here it’s pointing to the synonym demon, just like in the first sentence the Matron Lilith also means demon. We find out that the female Lilith (demon here) is the daughter of a king. This king had a mate whom her father is mentioned as well….together, they had Lilith (name, not synonym to demon) as in it’s the Evil Lady I’ve been talking about.

Both Asmodeus and Lilith = Evil Couple “were born at the same hour in the image of Adam and Eve”. Adam is Asmodeus before he turned Evil and Eve is Lilith before she turned Evil. This is how I understand and interpret this sentence. The intertwining mentioned is them turning from good to evil which developed into the opposite duality I’ve mentioned before in this thread. This couple possessed good and evil at the same time = they both started as good then turned into Evil. It also hint they might be twins.

“Another passage charges Lilith as being a tempting serpent of Eve.

And the Serpent, the Woman of Harlotry, incited and seduced Eve through the husks of Light which in itself is holiness. And the Serpent seduced Holy Eve, and enough said for him who understands. And all this ruination came about because Adam the first man coupled with Eve while she was in her menstrual impurity – this is the filth and the impure seed of the Serpent who mounted Eve before Adam mounted her. Behold, here it is before you: because of the sins of Adam the first man all the things mentioned came into being. For Evil Lilith, when she saw the greatness of his corruption, became strong in her husks, and came to Adam against his will, and became hot from him and bore him many demons and spirits and Lilin. (Patai81:455f)”

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3e8078  No.14348884

>>14348861

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>> Well, here you go, it’s obvious here. I’ve been saying this over and over about how the Evil Couple turned. About the coupling while she had her menstrual cycle = her period. This indicates 2 things:

1 – The Evil Couple used blood during sex – also reminding me of Spirit cooking.

2 – I just talked about the perverted sex this couple had, not normal, sane sex. Think of the worst, and this would be it. Remember Esptein Island temple.

It’s obvious from all of this information that the Evil Lady became a sex addict, of the worst type you can ever imagine.

“Zohar

References to Lilith in the Zohar include the following:

She roams at night, and goes all about the world and makes sport with men and causes them to emit seed. In every place where a man sleeps alone in a house, she visits him and grabs him and attaches herself to him and has her desire from him, and bears from him. And she also afflicts him with sickness, and he knows it not, and all this takes place when the moon is on the wane.”

>> Nothing new here, same ideas. The only new point is the moon. I still cannot understand where it fits in all of this and how it’s related to all the events that took place. All I know it’s attached to the Evil Lady and her Cult. I’ve read some stuff in this place and online about the moon being not what we are told it is. I don’t know anons. This is strange and new for me. So I rather not speculate. This is beyond me.

“This passage may be related to the mention of Lilith in Talmud Shabbath 151b (see above), and also to Talmud Eruvin 18b where nocturnal emissions are connected with the begettal of demons.

According to Rapahel Patai, older sources state clearly that after Lilith's Red Sea sojourn (mentioned also in Louis Ginzberg's Legends of the Jews), she returned to Adam and begat children from him by forcing herself upon him. Before doing so, she attaches herself to Cain and bears him numerous spirits and demons. In the Zohar, however, Lilith is said to have succeeded in begetting offspring from Adam even during their short-lived sexual experience. Lilith leaves Adam in Eden, as she is not a suitable helpmate for him. Gershom Scholem proposes that the author of the Zohar, Rabbi Moses de Leon, was aware of both the folk tradition of Lilith and another conflicting version, possibly older.”

>> As I’ve said many many times already = the Evil Couple had children together and this paragraph is another indication to that.

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3e8078  No.14348888

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>>14348884

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“The Zohar adds further that two female spirits instead of one, Lilith and Naamah, desired Adam and seduced him. The issue of these unions were demons and spirits called "the plagues of humankind", and the usual added explanation was that it was through Adam's own sin that Lilith overcame him against his will.”

>> Is this the origin of the feminism ideology and mvt (((they))) want to push forward?

“17th-century Hebrew magical amulets

A copy of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar in the Ritman Library contains an inserted late 17th century printed Hebrew sheet for use in magical amulets where the prophet Elijah confronts Lilith.”

>> Everything you need to know about this is said from the start with ONE word “inserted” – the date is a confirmation for this being added later on = not part of the original text.

“The sheet contains two texts within borders, which are amulets, one for a male ('lazakhar'), the other one for a female ('lanekevah'). The invocations mention Adam, Eve and Lilith, 'Chavah Rishonah' (the first Eve, who is identical with Lilith), also devils or angels: Sanoy, Sansinoy, Smangeluf, Shmari'el (the guardian) and Hasdi'el (the merciful). A few lines in Yiddish are followed by the dialogue between the prophet Elijah and Lilith when he met her with her host of demons to kill the mother and take her new-born child ('to drink her blood, suck her bones and eat her flesh'). She tells Elijah that she will lose her power if someone uses her secret names, which she reveals at the end: lilith, abitu, abizu, hakash, avers hikpodu, ayalu, matrota …”

>> Are (((they))) admitting here (((they))) are pedovores as Lilith was? I’ve talked about this before and I’ve asked anons to check back on Lamshtu, Humbaba etc. They all kidnaped children or attacked pregnant women. Also when you read about the warriors of the Light, like Bes and Hathor, it’s said openly and directly that they used to protect children and pregnant women from evil spirits and demons. By the way, the prophet Elijah doesn’t sit to chit chat like that, he chops heads, then talks ^_^ he doesn’t sit down with demons to have a conversation with them. How do I know this? It’s obvious anons = I have my source ^_~

“In other amulets, probably informed by The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, she is Adam's first wife. (Yalqut Reubeni, Zohar 1:34b, 3:19)

Charles Richardson's dictionary portion of the Encyclopædia Metropolitana appends to his etymological discussion of lullaby "a [manuscript] note written in a copy of Skinner" [i.e. Stephen Skinner's 1671 Etymologicon Linguæ Anglicanæ], which asserts that the word lullaby originates from Lillu abi abi, a Hebrew incantation meaning "Lilith begone" recited by Jewish mothers over an infant's cradle. Richardson did not endorse the theory and modern lexicographers consider it a false etymology.”

>> No comments about Lullaby.

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3e8078  No.14348913

>>14348888

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“Greco-Roman mythology

In the Latin Vulgate Book of Isaiah 34:14, Lilith is translated lamia

According to Augustine Calmet, Lilith has connections with early views on vampires and sorcery:

Some learned men have thought they discovered some vestiges of vampirism in the remotest antiquity; but all that they say of it does not come near what is related of the vampires. The lamiæ, the strigæ, the sorcerers whom they accused of sucking the blood of living people, and of thus causing their death, the magicians who were said to cause the death of new-born children by charms and malignant spells, are nothing less than what we understand by the name of vampires; even were it to be owned that these lamiæ and strigæ have really existed, which we do not believe can ever be well proved. I own that these terms [lamiæ and strigæ] are found in the versions of Holy Scripture. For instance, Isaiah, describing the condition to which Babylon was to be reduced after her ruin, says that she shall become the abode of satyrs, lamiæ, and strigæ (in Hebrew, lilith). This last term, according to the Hebrews, signifies the same thing, as the Greeks express by strix and lamiæ, which are sorceresses or magicians, who seek to put to death new-born children. Whence it comes that the Jews are accustomed to write in the four corners of the chamber of a woman just delivered, "Adam, Eve, be gone from hence lilith." … The ancient Greeks knew these dangerous sorceresses by the name of lamiæ, and they believed that they devoured children, or sucked away all their blood till they died.”

>> No need to comment on the pedovores, it’s very clear. Well, I guess now the origin of Vampire in Hollywood is clear. The Vampires in the movies are (((them))).

“According to Siegmund Hurwitz the Talmudic Lilith is connected with the Greek Lamia, who, according to Hurwitz, likewise governed a class of child stealing lamia-demons. Lamia bore the title "child killer" and was feared for her malevolence, like Lilith. She has different conflicting origins and is described as having a human upper body from the waist up and a serpentine body from the waist down. One source states simply that she is a daughter of the goddess Hecate, another, that Lamia was subsequently cursed by the goddess Hera to have stillborn children because of her association with Zeus; alternatively, Hera slew all of Lamia's children (except Scylla) in anger that Lamia slept with her husband, Zeus. The grief caused Lamia to turn into a monster that took revenge on mothers by stealing their children and devouring them. Lamia had a vicious sexual appetite that matched her cannibalistic appetite for children. She was notorious for being a vampiric spirit and loved sucking men's blood. Her gift was the "mark of a Sibyl", a gift of second sight. Zeus was said to have given her the gift of sight. However, she was "cursed" to never be able to shut her eyes so that she would forever obsess over her dead children. Taking pity on Lamia, Zeus gave her the ability to remove and replace her eyes from their sockets.”

>> It’s obvious Lamia is a pedovore but I doubt she really had sex with Zeus since he is a ThunderBird = I believe this section is a mutation to make it logical how Hera went after Lamia. I want to remind anons that Lilith can be used as a synonym to demons, so maybe here, Lamia was also used in that same way.

The still born children of Lamia are the result/ consequence of the illness of the Evil One. Remember how we just read a few pages ago about castration? I think it’s pointing to the difficulty of having children. It’s the same sickness Henry VIII and Albert Pike had. This is why in the Wikipedia page about Lilith (the ones related to her) we keep on reading that most of her children died. And this was passed on to nowadays Bloodlines, through many generations.

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3e8078  No.14348919

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>>14348913

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“Lamia had a vicious sexual appetite that matched her cannibalistic appetite for children.”

>>This is one good summary of Lilith = the Evil Lady. With this, it’s getting clearer what the Forbidden Fruit is? = Human Flesh = eating humans. I’m also not surprised to hear Lamia/Lilith had the gift of Sight, because she is after all the daughter of the Queen of queens; she must have inherited something from her parents.

“Arabic culture

The occult writer Ahmad al-Buni (d. 1225), in his Sun of the Great Knowledge (Arabic: ‎), mentions a demon called "the mother of children" ( ), a term also used "in one place". Folkloric traditions recorded around 1953 tell about a jinn called Qarinah, who was rejected by Adam and mated with Iblis instead. She gave birth to a host of demons and became known as their mother. To take revenge on Adam, she pursues human children. As such, she would kill a pregnant mother's baby in the womb, causes impotence to men or attacks little children with illnesses. According to occult practises, she would be subject to the demon-king Murrah al-Abyad, which appears to be another name for Iblis used in magical writings. Stories about Qarinah and Lilith merged in early Islam.”

>> This is the influence and infiltration of Judaism on Islam, just like it’s the case with the Hamsa. Here, they are clearly saying she mated with the Evil One.

“In German literature

[…]

In English literature

The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which developed around 1848,were greatly influenced by Goethe's work on the theme of Lilith. In 1863, Dante Gabriel Rossetti of the Brotherhood began painting what would later be his first rendition of Lady Lilith, a painting he expected to be his "best picture hitherto". Symbols appearing in the painting allude to the "femme fatale" reputation of the Romantic Lilith: poppies (death and cold) and white roses (sterile passion). Accompanying his Lady Lilith painting from 1866, Rossetti wrote a sonnet entitled Lilith, which was first published in Swinburne's pamphlet-review (1868), Notes on the Royal Academy Exhibition.

[…]”

>> I’ve read many times that the poppies the queen of England wears have a darker meaning than what is known publically, but I could never grasp what it really meant. So could it be something that has to do with Lilith = Evil Lady?

“This is in accordance with Jewish folk tradition, which associates Lilith both with long hair (a symbol of dangerous feminine seductive power in Jewish culture), and with possessing women by entering them through mirrors.”

>> I don’t know why this reminds me of Snow White, the children tale that is. There was a witch, an apple and a mirror in it. All 3 elements related to Lilith/Eve. I’m wondering if the origin of that tale is not inspired by Lilith. Just some thoughts there.

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3e8078  No.14348926

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>>14348919

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“The Victorian poet Robert Browning re-envisioned Lilith in his poem "Adam, Lilith, and Eve".First published in 1883, the poem uses the traditional myths surrounding the triad of Adam, Eve, and Lilith. Browning depicts Lilith and Eve as being friendly and complicitous with each other, as they sit together on either side of Adam. Under the threat of death, Eve admits that she never loved Adam, while Lilith confesses that she always loved him:

As the worst of the venom left my lips,

I thought, 'If, despite this lie, he strips

The mask from my soul with a kiss — I crawl

His slave, — soul, body, and all!

— Browning 1098

Browning focused on Lilith's emotional attributes, rather than that of her ancient demon predecessors.”

>> I want to get anons attention on the writings = literature about Lilith. It’s quiet extensive, isn’t it? Also keep in mind, whatever these authors say, either in Academic books or novels, this is their point of view. If you get interested in one book, always check out the background of it and mostly the author = follow the money = check whom is paying him and check his ideology. I’ve put some pictures of book covers randomly selected for anons from the web, just to give an idea about the literature about Lilith. Take a look at those titles: loads is said in just a couple of words here.

“Scottish author George MacDonald also wrote a fantasy novel entitled Lilith, first published in 1895. MacDonald employed the character of Lilith in service to a spiritual drama about sin and redemption, in which Lilith finds a hard-won salvation. Many of the traditional characteristics of Lilith mythology are present in the author's depiction: Long dark hair, pale skin, a hatred and fear of children and babies, and an obsession with gazing at herself in a mirror. MacDonald's Lilith also has vampiric qualities: she bites people and sucks their blood for sustenance.”

>> I don’t think Lilith had dark hair, but her hair was something between gold and orange, like a rusty kind of golden hair.

“Australian poet and scholar Christopher John Brennan (1870–1932), included a section titled "Lilith" in his major work "Poems: 1913" (Sydney : G. B. Philip and Son, 1914). The "Lilith" section contains thirteen poems exploring the Lilith myth and is central to the meaning of the collection as a whole.

C. L. Moore's 1940 story Fruit of Knowledge is written from Lilith's point of view. It is a re-telling of the Fall of Man as a love triangle between Lilith, Adam and Eve – with Eve's eating the forbidden fruit being in this version the result of misguided manipulations by the jealous Lilith, who had hoped to get her rival discredited and destroyed by God and thus regain Adam's love.

British poet John Siddique's 2011 collection Full Blood has a suite of 11 poems called The Tree of Life, which features Lilith as the divine feminine aspect of God. A number of the poems feature Lilith directly, including the piece Unwritten which deals with the spiritual problem of the feminine being removed by the scribes from The Bible.

Lilith is also mentioned in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, by C.S.Lewis. The character Mr. Beaver ascribes the ancestry of the main antagonist, Jadis the White Witch, to Lilith.

Lilith is a poem by Vladimir Nabokov, written in 1928. Many have connected it to Lolita, but Nabokov adamantly denies this: "Intelligent readers will abstain from examining this impersonal fantasy for any links with my later fiction."

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3e8078  No.14348936

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>>14348926

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“In modern occultism and Western esotericism

The depiction of Lilith in Romanticism continues to be popular among Wiccans and in other modern Occultism. A few magical orders dedicated to the undercurrent of Lilith, featuring initiations specifically related to the arcana of the "first mother", exist. Two organisations that use initiations and magic associated with Lilith are the Ordo Antichristianus Illuminati and the Order of Phosphorus. Lilith appears as a succubus in Aleister Crowley's De Arte Magica. Lilith was also one of the middle names of Crowley's first child, Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley (1904–1906), and Lilith is sometimes identified with Babalon in Thelemic writings. Many early occult writers that contributed to modern day Wicca expressed special reverence for Lilith. Charles Leland associated Aradia with Lilith: Aradia, says Leland, is Herodias, who was regarded in stregheria folklore as being associated with Diana as chief of the witches. Leland further notes that Herodias is a name that comes from west Asia, where it denoted an early form of Lilith.”

>> No need for me to comment, it’s very clear. Anons are well trained now to read between the lines. I still don’t understand though the connection between the Evil Lady and the Moon. Yes, Artemis/Diana is a mutated form = a form in later generation of the Evil Lady, but as I just said, I don’t understand why and how she is connected to the Moon. What’s the link? I’m unable to grasp it because maybe I’m unable to understand what the Moon really is. I don’t know. I do know that Hollywood is very attached to the moon and to the “aspect” of Lilith as Artemis/Diana. Take a look at the pictures from the series “Friends” and I’m attaching the symbol of Lilith as the Dark Moon, or whatever it is called, as well. Don’t rush with your thoughts if you want to research her symbol = black moon. Just go one step at a time and keep your thoughts clear of what you might think you know.

“Gerald Gardner asserted that there was continuous historical worship of Lilith to present day, and that her name is sometimes given to the goddess being personified in the coven by the priestess. This idea was further attested by Doreen Valiente, who cited her as a presiding goddess of the Craft: "the personification of erotic dreams, the suppressed desire for delights". In some contemporary concepts, Lilith is viewed as the embodiment of the Goddess, a designation that is thought to be shared with what these faiths believe to be her counterparts: Inanna, Ishtar, Asherah, Anath and Isis. According to one view, Lilith was originally a Sumerian, Babylonian, or Hebrew mother goddess of childbirth, children, women, and sexuality.”

>> I agree, the cult of Lilith or should I say the Evil Lady was never interrupted in all the History of mankind, no matter the culture/civilization nor the time; this despite that most cultures/civilizations had no or minimum contact with one another depending on the case. I do agree with the list given apart Isis. I think all of the names given are later forms or mutations by younger generation of the Evil Lady.

Yes, Lilith = the Evil Lady has her origin among the Jews whom were in Sumerian Mesopotamia. As we’ve seen on the bronze Plaque of the Hells, (((they))) came down from the Armenian Plateau via the Kuphars on the Euphrates. The “Jews” or the followers of Judaism are the ones whom follow the cult established/created by the Evil Couple. And they were spread worldwide as proven by the presence of the Horned Serpents worldwide.

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3e8078  No.14348947

>>14348936

(Please read from the start)

Abraham was ONE of the many descendants of these evil survivors and just like the rest, he came down from the Armenian Plateau and established himself along with his tribe in Mesopotamia. Abraham and his “tribe” were kicked out of the City-State of “Ur”. There are 2 possible locations for this, as in we have 2 possible candidates for the City-State Abraham came from. Regardless which one it is, which City-State it is Abraham came from, the main idea is that it was located on the Euphrates banks = in Mesopotamia. Abraham along with his tribe were kicked out from where they lived….I think this is not pointing just to Abraham, but to every single person following Judaism = the Abrahamic religion. They were kicked out of the many City-States of Mesopotamia because as it was said “religious differences and practices which couldn’t be accepted by the other citizens of the City-States”.

Some “historians” have interpreted this as in Abraham being a monotheist and the other Sumerian citizens being polytheist; which created this “rejection”. But when you study the Sumerian records closely and deeply, you will notice this was not just a religious based rejection but a social one as well. The other citizens couldn’t accept the “way” the Abrahamist lived nor did they accept the Abrahamic religion. You can sense fear coming out from the other citizens. This is also reflected in all the warriors of the Light we saw and how they protected pregnant women and children, including newborns. This is what the citizens used to fear = kidnapping. Wherever these ancient pedovores were established, pregnant women and children used to disappear during the night. Re-read all the dark and light warriors and you will see yourselves what I’m talking about. This point is highlighted in the Wikipedia pages of Lilith and how the abduction of children and people used to occur to satisfy her vampiristic needs = blood and human flesh. It’s the need all of (((them))) share.

So you see why the people in Mesopotamia didn’t want the Abrahamic tribes near them, living next to them, in the same neighborhood, in the same town? It’s because people used to disappear without a trace, mostly children whenever the Abrahamic tribe was there. And to make it worse, the other citizens couldn’t prove anything against (((them))). Even if they caught one of (((them))) in the act of kidnapping or in cannibalism….that was just one person caught from a 100 or more like him. So the other citizens couldn’t find any other solution but to expel ALL of the JEWS from the Mesopotamian City-States. And I’m not talking about the Babylonian times here anons, I’m talking about LONG ago = many hundreds of years before the destruction of (((their))) first temple.

When they were kicked out, this group headed West, mostly. They wandered around for some time but in the end, they landed on a spot where there were others like them. Others which were already been kicked out of the neighboring City-Stares, from the entire region. And this is how the first area around of current day Jerusalem became inhabitant by the “Jews” or the followers of the Abrahamic religion. The hub, turned into a town and the town became a City-States with time. This is how the City-State of Jerusalem came to be, and along with time, other “waves” of migration joined in gradually, including the one lead by Moses.

I came upon this information in my youth, long, long ago, I was doing some reading into something else in Sumerian “archives”/texts and I happened to read this. I didn’t take notes nor do I remember the reference because back then, I wasn’t even looking for this information. But, I never forgot it because it rattled me. It shook me hard because of the harshness in it and since then, I always doubt the story of Abraham and the “sacrifice” of his son.

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3e8078  No.14348954

>>14348947

(Please read from the start)

I know one thing for sure = our Heavenly Father would never ever have such thoughts as demand a human sacrifice, even as a test. This is not whom our Heavenly Father is. This is not the nature of our Heavenly Father but the nature of the false god = the Evil One. Such thoughts never occur to our Heavenly Father and He will never utter such words nor make such demands. Our Heavenly Father loves us and the thought of us being killed is horrific to Him, totally unacceptable. How do I know this? Well… try to guess. It’s obvious.

There is one last thing to comment upon here: Lilith being for the Hebrews = Jews = Abrahamist the image of Mother Goddess. Motherhood doesn’t go with a lustful sexual craving witch image projected by Lilith. A mother is chaste, caring and protective. She is not a pedovore sexual addict. The reason why she is associated to motherhood in Judaism is because she is the MOTHER of the demons = as in the Mother of the “Bloodlines” families and one of the main founders of (((their))) cult = Judaism. Wherever you discover in the world, from long ago till now, there is a temple or a place = the practice of “sacred prostitution” = that’s a sign of her cult. Regardless of the age, the culture, the place or the civilization, wherever and whenever you see the practice of the “Sacred Prostitution” you should automatically know it’s the cult of the Evil Lady = the mother of the demons.

“Raymond Buckland holds that Lilith is a dark moon goddess on par with the Hindu Kali.

Many modern theistic Satanists consider Lilith as a goddess. She is considered a goddess of independence by those Satanists and is often worshipped by women, but women are not the only people who worship her. Lilith is popular among theistic Satanists because of her association with Satan. Some Satanists believe that she is the wife of Satan and thus think of her as a mother figure. Others base their reverence towards her based on her history as a succubus and praise her as a sex goddess. A different approach to a Satanic Lilith holds that she was once a fertility and agricultural goddess.”

>> This is what I’ve been saying all along = as her being the partner of the Evil One. She can be considered as a fertility goddess = childbirth = Mother of demons = Mother of the Bloodlines, mostly the Merovingian Bloodline.

“The western mystery tradition associates Lilith with the Qliphoth of kabbalah. Samael Aun Weor in The Pistis Sophia Unveiled writes that homosexuals are the "henchmen of Lilith". Likewise, women who undergo wilful abortion, and those who support this practice are "seen in the sphere of Lilith".Dion Fortune writes, "The Virgin Mary is reflected in Lilith", and that Lilith is the source of "lustful dreams".

>> No, the Virgin Mary has nothing to do with Lilith or her image. See how (((they))) LIKE to tarnish everything that is related to our Heavenly Father, the Light and to Jesus? EVERYTHING. I do mean EVERYTHING. (((They))) come after everything and everyone that is related to our Heavenly Father and seek to destroy the image of the Light; or push us in the wrong direction, away from the Light and the truth. No wonder abortion is (((their))) thing: it’s related to the cult of the Evil Lady.

This is all for this Wikipedia page of Lilith. But I’m not done yet with the Evil Lady. There are many many digging tunnels and I don’t have the time to go through each and every single one of them. I’m going to focus on the ones which I believe are the most important, mostly for this thread. I will leave the others for the interested researchers to dig into themselves. If the need occurs later on, I will go into the tunnels I didn’t touch now.

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664950  No.14357184

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>>14348954

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Next I want to give you a visual about Lilith = Evil Lady, to show you the image Hollywood projects of her. Before I beging, I would like to remind anons that Vampires in movies is a projection of the pedovores and the Bloodlines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Stoker%27s_Dracula_(1992_film)

“Bram Stoker's Dracula is a 1992 American Gothic horror film directed and produced by Francis Ford Coppola, based on the 1897 novel Dracula by Bram Stoker. It stars Gary Oldman as Count Dracula, Winona Ryder as Mina Harker, Anthony Hopkins as Professor Abraham Van Helsing, and Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker.”

>> Isn’t Copola the one whom directed The Godfather? I’m going by memory here. And just take a good look at the cast: nice list. There is also Monica Bellucci in the movie as one of Dracula’s wives.

“Dracula was theatrically released in the United States on November 13, 1992, to positive reviews, though Keanu Reeves' performance and English accent received criticism. The film grossed $215 million against a production budget of $40 million. It was nominated for four Academy Awards and won three for Best Costume Design, Best Sound Editing, and Best Makeup while also being nominated for Best Art Direction. Its score was composed by Wojciech Kilar and its closing credits theme "Love Song for a Vampire", written and performed by Annie Lennox, became an international success.”

>> Of course the song and the movie are a big hit. It talks about the love story of the Evil Couple, so it will get loads of marketing and (((they))) will lead the Sheep into liking it and making the movie a big hit, along with the song; despite that both are totally lame.

“Plot

In 1462, Vlad Dracula returns from a victory against the Turks to find his wife Elisabeta committed suicide after his enemies falsely reported his death. The priest tells him that his wife's soul is damned to Hell for committing suicide. Enraged, Dracula desecrates the chapel and renounces God, declaring he will rise from the grave to avenge Elisabeta with all the powers of darkness. He then stabs the chapel's stone cross with his sword and drinks the blood that pours from it.”

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664950  No.14357198

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>>14357184

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>> Desecrating the chapel, renouncing God and stabbing the cross are all things the Satanists like to do. The blood that comes out of the cross and he drinks it, is a symbolic representation to the murder of the King of kings and in the same time the crucifixion of Christ by the Jews = double image projected. I’m attaching a couple of pictures for anons of the armor Vlad Dracula is wearing in the movie (previous page). Look at it carefully. It’s red in color and it has this sort of spikes on the helmet, making it look like horns….and yes, it resembles the helmet Batman wears. This is no coincidence.

Also his wife made a CHOICE to end her own life but according to Vlad, it’s God’s fault for some reason and he does nasty things towards God. So the wife makes a wrong choice, but it’s God’s fault: talking about twisted logic. I guess this is (((their))) twisted thinking and (((they))) are projecting the blame onto our Heavenly Father. (((They))) blame Him for not accepting the “forbidden” type of relationship which existed between the Evil Couple. It’s His fault for not accepting the unacceptable, not the fault of the Evil Couple for doing something unacceptable in the first place. See how twisted (((their))) logic is?

“In 1897, solicitor Jonathan Harker takes the Transylvanian Count Dracula as a client from his colleague Renfield who has gone insane and is now an inmate in Dr. Jack Seward's insane asylum. Jonathan travels to Transylvania to arrange Dracula's real estate acquisitions in London. Jonathan meets Dracula who finds a picture of his fiancée Mina Murray and believes she is the reincarnation of Elisabeta. Dracula leaves Jonathan to be fed upon by his brides, while he sails to England with boxes of Transylvanian soil, taking up residence at Carfax Abbey (which he recently bought), with Renfield's ravings foretelling his arrival.”

>> Jonathan Harker is the projection of Adam. Vlad is the projection of the Serpent a.k.a. Adam after he turned Evil. I thought the soul of Dracula’s wife is doomed since she committed suicide so how did she reincarnate? Darcula is polygamist. Well, I didn’t think he will take a chastity vow while waiting for his beloved wife to reincarnate. The introduction and practice of polygamy was (((their))) thing through centuries, through all the history of mankind. And I believe this was practiced by the Evil Couple as well, before the Cataclysm and after it. It was mentioned in the Wikipedia page of Lilith when they said she went after many men. This is a very sexualized movie with many “erotic” scenes in it. One of them consists of Jonathan with the 3 wives of Dracula in bed = orgy. Making it look sexy and nice to the viewer, but in reality, (((they))) are projecting what (((they))) do behind closed doors. As in (((they))) are projecting (((their))) perversions and making them look cool to the public. So the public would gradually accept one perversion after the other till (((they))) reach (((their))) final goal and turns us all into accepting the most atrocious perversion ever = pedovore. Also notice the curly hair of one of Dracula’s brides: it looks like snakes on her head reminding me of Medusa from Greek Mythology.

Dracula leaves Jonathan to the trio made of his vampiric wives and he sets sales to England, while taking boxes filled with Transylvanian soil with him. This is a rather strange idea here. I wonder what it really means. And the last idea is that he takes residence in an Abbey. Chuckles! I thought he rejected God and desecrated a church, shouldn’t he be banned by God from stepping onto Holy ground? Oh well, Hollywood knows better. This idea also reminds me of how Katy Perry bought that monastery and what happened after that.

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664950  No.14357208

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>>14357198

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“In London, Dracula emerges as a wolf-themed creature amid a fierce thunderstorm and hypnotically seduces, then bites Lucy Westenra, with whom Mina is staying while Jonathan is in Transylvania. Lucy's deteriorating health and behavioral changes prompt former suitors Quincey Morris and Dr. Seward, along with her fiancé Arthur Holmwood to summon Dr. Abraham Van Helsing, Seward's teacher, who recognizes Lucy as the victim of a vampire. Dracula, appearing young and handsome during daylight, meets and charms Mina. When Mina receives word from Jonathan — who has escaped from the castle and recovered at a convent — she travels to Romania to marry him. Dracula furiously transforms Lucy into a vampire, and Van Helsing, Holmwood, Seward and Morris kill the undead Lucy the following night before she can feed on a young girl.”

>>Let’s start with the image of Lucy Westenra in the movie. In the first picture I’m attaching with this page, we can see both Mina and Lucy together. Apart her reddish, blazing hair like fire, Lucy is portrayed as sweet, naïve and innocent. Just like Mina is actually. And both project this charming purity in how they behave and the color of their clothing. Mina is projected as Eve = the Evil Lady before she was seduced by the Evil One. While Lucy is projected as Lilith in the movie = the Evil Lady after she was seduced by the Evil One. If you can watch the movie and notice the change in behavior, it would be better.

And yes, once Dracula approaches Lucy, she totally changed. Starting with the color and the fabric of her clothing. She became sexy, erotic, sensual = making her seductive to the person watching the movie in order to make you think this is the best way a woman should be= making her seductive, desirable. To make prude and chaste women look boring for the viewer. So here we have Lucy, wearing see through red fabric, running into the maze = being lost. Mina notices her absence and goes looking for her. See the difference in the nightgowns?

I don’t recall the order of the following scenes, as in which came first, second and third; but there are 3 very sexual scenes connected to Lucy.

1 – There is an odd kiss scene between Lucy and Mina, which I don’t know where it happened. But this is projecting same gender sex. Remember anons, this movie was made in 1992 where Homosexuality wasn’t widely accepted. And this is how (((they))) made it acceptable by the public = little by little, making it look “cool” in movie = brainwashing the population.

2- There is this scene of Lucy in her room, still wearing that thin red veil like nightgown. She is on her bed and having cravings for sex, while we see the shadow of Dracula trying to get to her, seducing her, putting her in “heat” – as if she was some type of female animal whom is in heat. This reduces the act of love making into nothing but a heated moment of animal instinct, according to this movie. It’s sad to see this being inserted into the minds of the public. And this scene is also showing us what it’s meant in the Wikipedia page of Lilith when it’s said she is lustful and gets in heat = craves for sex.

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ae068c  No.14366162

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>>14357208

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3 - After following Lucy into the maze, Mina finds Lucy having sex with Dracula. But it’s not just any type of sex; it’s sex with Dracula in his animal form = projecting beastiality = sex with animals. Here, the movie makers, say it’s Dracula as a wolf man. I don’t know, and I don’t care if it’s correct or not because no matter what it is, it’s disgusting and terribly disturbing. (((They))) are making beastiality = sex with animals look “cool” and “desirable” with this scene. And Mina just stands there and watchs it, instead of screaming her head out and being totally horrified by what she sees. When Dracula notices her, he says: No, don’t see me like this. Reminding me of the mirror from Lilith page and of the story of “The Beauty and the Beast”. No matter what it is, no matter how you try to turn or spin this: this scene is terribly sick, terribly sick. And I don’t understand how the public is not outraged at this sort of thing being put in movies.

In the second picture from the movie, it is said that Lucy, turned into a Vampire, was going to feed on a young girl. But when you watch the movie, you will notice that Vampiric Lucy has snatched = kidnaped a child. Saying a young girl is misleading, this is a child. And it goes straight into the image projected of Lilith where she feeds on children and blood. And it connects to all the Horned Serpents and the rest of the Evil warriors whom used to kidnap children and pregnant women. This scene from the movie is projecting how the pedovores feed on the children (((they))) kidnap.

Dracula presents himself to Mina as the perfect gentleman. From how he is dressed, to how “handsome” he looks, to his education and his “status” = he calls himself prince; everything is put in place for Mina to see him as “Prince Charming” and falls for his perfect gentleman “charms” = the picture he is seducing her, luring her with. He only puts forward his good side for her to see and hides his ugliness away from her. This is why he didn’t want her to see him in his animal form having sex in a disgusting way with Lucy. I think this is how the Evil One seduced = charmed the Evil Lady and turned her from the innocent naïve Sebetti queen, into the Evil, sex addict pedovore.

In a scene, there is a white fur wolf which scares everyone and seem to obey Dracula. I’ve always wondered why in movies the Wolf or the werewolves never won against the Vampires. Have you noticed that as well? The wolves or werewolves always fall in one of the following 2 categories: 1 – they are defeated by the vampires whom are their deadly enemies. 2 – they are the servants of the vampires and do what they are told by them. I think the werewolves are the projection of the Wolf Sebetti Clan in movies.

But why do we have a dual image of them; as in one submissive image as slaves/servants of the vampires. And a second image of fierce but defeated enemy of the vampires. I think there are warriors of the Wolf Sebetti clan like Anubis and Wepwawet whom refused to join the Evil One and fought him. But since we don’t have many Wolf Clan Warriors worldwide, I’m thinking this clan might have been defeated, as in many of them might have been killed by the Horned Serpents. This is just theoretical from my part with what I’m dug up so far in this thread.

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ae068c  No.14366172

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>>14366162

(Please read from the start)

The image is a projection of the traitor Wolf Clan warriors whom joined the Evil One and merged their armor with the stolen tech from the other clans, turning them into multi-morphs. If anons go back and read some of the evil warriors we’ve already seen in this thread, you will notice that some had the head = helmet, of a feline, while others of wolves. I think the helmet of the multi-morphs represent their original clans before they became traitors. So this explains why SOME werewolves in the movies are projected as the servants or slaves of the vampires.

“After he and Mina return to London, Jonathan and Van Helsing lead the others to Carfax Abbey, where they destroy the Count's boxes of soil. Dracula enters the asylum, where he kills Renfield for warning Mina of his presence. He visits Mina, who is staying in Seward's quarters while the others hunt Dracula, and confesses that he murdered Lucy and has been terrorizing Mina's friends. Confused and angry, Mina admits that she still loves him and remembers Elisabeta's previous life; at her insistence, Dracula begins transforming her into a vampire. The hunters burst into the bedroom, and Dracula claims Mina as his bride before escaping. As Mina changes, Van Helsing hypnotizes her and learns via her connection with Dracula that he is sailing home in his last remaining box. The hunters depart for Varna to intercept him, but Dracula reads Mina's mind and evades them. The hunters split up; Van Helsing and Mina travel to the Borgo Pass and the castle, while the others try to stop the gypsies transporting Dracula.”

>> Dracula comes to Mina in his Bat or some say Rat form in the clip I’ve attached with this page. Listen carefully to what Dracula says: he served the Cross, he was a commander. Then he says: “I was betrayed. Look what your God has done to me.” = it’s incredible how it’s always God’s fault when you ask (((them))) but it’s never (((their))) fault, nor the fault of the Evil One and Evil Lady. It’s God’s fault for not accepting cannibalism and pedophilia according to (((them))), from looonnnng ago. In this movie, his wife committed suicide, Dracula decided to stab the Cross and drink in a chalice the Blood that came out from the Cross which turned him into the monster that he is….and it’s all God’s fault. As if both him and his wife didn’t make all the bad choices that they did. Incredible.

Also did anyone notice what Anthony Hopkins is wearing on his waist? = is that a Massonic apron? It’s similar to it, isn’t it? Another amazing point is Mina, whom is now a married woman doesn’t give a damn about her newly wedded husband finding her in bed with Dracula. Truly amazing! Why did she marry Jonathan in the first place? And even more disturbing is Jonathan’s reaction to finding his wife, in bed with Dracula, sucking his blood in a supposedly sexy and erotic scene. Anything is good for Hollywood in order to make drinking human blood look all sexy and cool. See how (((they))) brainwash the public into accept the perversions?

The Gypsies play the role of Dracula’s henchmen. We know nowadays Bloodlines have plenty of them. I also find it funny in a sad way how Mina “begs” Dracula to transform her into a Vampire and he makes her drink his blood (picture in next page). For me, this little love scene says a lot. First it projects how the Evil One was the one seducing and turning the Sebetti queen into the Evil Lady, as I’ve been saying for some time now. Second, it gives the smell that the Sebetti queen might have been married to someone else and that she committed adultery. I don’t know for sure if the Sebetti queen was married or if she was single when she became the partner of the Evil One. It’s a possibility, but not a certainty.

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ae068c  No.14366175

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>>14366172

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“At night, Van Helsing and Mina are approached by Dracula's brides. Mina succumbs to their chanting and attempts to seduce Van Helsing. Before Mina can feed on his blood, Van Helsing places a communion wafer on her forehead, leaving a mark. He surrounds them with a ring of fire to protect them from the brides, then infiltrates the castle and decapitates them the following morning. Dracula's carriage arrives at the castle, pursued by the hunters. A fight between the hunters and gypsies ensues. Morris is stabbed in the back during the fight and Dracula bursts from his coffin at sunset. Jonathan slits his throat with a kukri knife while the wounded Morris stabs him in the heart. As Dracula staggers, Mina rushes to his defense. Van Helsing and Jonathan allow her to retreat with the Count. Morris dies of his wound, surrounded by his friends.”

>> So the Evil One gets mortally wounded in the battle and dies afterwards. I think this is a projection of what really happened back then, after the Evil One kills the King of kings and consumes his flesh. A battle takes place and the Evil One is mortally wounded = he dies and loose his physical form. We’ve seen it with the Crescendolls and, with the movie Legend, with Voldemort and even Sarafine to some extent. But in this movie they do not mention what happens to the spirit of Dracula.

“In the chapel where he renounced God, Dracula lies dying in an ancient demonic form; he and Mina share a kiss as the candles adorning the chapel light up and the cross repairs itself. Dracula reverts to his younger self and asks Mina to give him peace. Mina thrusts the knife through his heart and as he dies, the mark on her forehead disappears as Dracula's curse is lifted. She decapitates him and gazes up at a fresco of Vlad and Elisabeta ascending to Heaven together, finally reunited.

[…]”

>> Truly it’s an amazing tragic love story. I can barely hold my tears back. Let me get my handkerchief and blow my nose here. The old man is having one face palm after the other because of this movie.

The mark on Mina’s forehead is the mark of the beast. With Dracula’s death, it seems the SIN = Evil, is gone, at least this is what they are hinting to in this movie. The tragic love scene in this movie is made to gather sympathy for the Evil Couple and rally viewers to how unjust everything and everyone is to their cause = their love. It’s like destiny and fate were unjust towards this couple.

The lack of moral in this movie is sky high and it’s giving us a premium view of what took place back then between the Evil Couple and in the same time it’s giving us a very clear idea of what (((their))) cult is about behind closed doors. I hope anons now have a good mental image of the situation and the persons whom were involved in the events of back then.

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190c20  No.14366973

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98f10c  No.14375319

>>14366175

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As I’ve said before, there are many digging tunnels to go in after Lilith. I’m going to go in the most important ones, the ones I need for this thread, at least for now. The rest, anons can dig them themselves or even go deeper with the tunnels I’m going into. Before I start, I want to explain/clarify something very important:

The main persons of interest in this dig are the 7 Sebetti rulers. We’ve already seen one of them = Neith, and I think we’ve got enough info on her for now. Anons can dig deeper if they are interested. What I want anons to understand is that there are multiple facets of Neith. As in we have multiple aspects of the Queen of queen. We see her as Neith, as Hathor, as Isis and as Baalat of Gebal. A lot of modern day researchers think these are several deities, but the truth is, they are one and the same person. She is seen from different angles and different aspects. And the chances are extremely high, younger generation misunderstood those different aspects of the deity and thought each aspect of her is a separate person.

To make the reader understand my point better, I want to give as example Flotus = Melania Trump. Melania Trump holds many titles and she has many aspects, angles to her:

1 - She is the little girl whom grew up in Slovenia.

2 – She is the international super model.

3 – She is the wife of Donald Trump.

4 – She is the mother of Baron Trump.

5 – She is the First Lady of the United States of America.

See how many facets of Melania we have? This doesn’t mean we have 5 Melanias, it’s the same and one woman, but she can be seen from 5 different angles. Melania is all of these aspects combined and plus a lot more than what we see in public. And this is the situation with all of the Sebetti rulers. We’ve already seen many aspects of Neith = Queen of queens:

1 – She is the head of the Lamassu Clan.

2 – She is a mother.

3 – She is the Queen of queens.

4 – She is the beloved wife of the King of kings.

5 – She is a fierce warrior, leading the charge against the Horned Serpent.

6 – She is the greatest Seer whom can weave the fate of many.

This is one person we are talking about, but she is seen from different aspects, angles; just like it was the case with Melania. Later generations didn’t understand we are dealing with ONE person, and this is how many deities “sprouted out” from her = as in we see Neith as different goddesses even though it’s one in origin. For each aspect of her, the young generations thought it was a separate goddess, they didn’t realize it’s one person. And this is same scenario we are going to encounter now with the Evil Lady and the rest of the Sebetti rulers, including the Evil One.

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98f10c  No.14375346

File: 6cb2f8448c8a42b⋯.jpg (87.26 KB, 396x590, 198:295, Inanna.jpg)

File: 0cf6bcce622d576⋯.jpg (107.77 KB, 700x484, 175:121, Indonesian_volcanic_errupt….jpg)

>>14375319

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I’ve also noticed that the fighters, the warriors were deified as well, as it’s the case with Bes and Bastet & Sekhmet. These were all warriors belonging to the Feline Clan, they were not Sebetti rulers. But because these warriors had special powers and superhuman speed and strength, they were seen, considered and revered as deities – on a worldwide scale. These are the gods everyone read about and it’s the reason why they all have common traits = they belonged to the same clans.

Next, I’m going to take a look to a few (not all) of the aspects of the Evil Lady- it’s going to be very long, starting with what “seem” to be her oldest form; Inanna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna

“Inanna is an ancient Mesopotamian goddess associated with love, beauty, sex, war, justice and political power. She was originally worshiped in Sumer under the name "Inanna", and was later worshipped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar. She was known as the "Queen of Heaven" and was the patron goddess of the Eanna temple at the city of Uruk, which was her main cult center. She was associated with the planet Venus and her most prominent symbols included the lion and the eight-pointed star. Her husband was the god Dumuzid (later known as Tammuz) and her sukkal, or personal attendant, was the goddess Ninshubur (who later became conflated with the male deities Ilabrat and Papsukkal).”

>> Everything points out that Inanna is how the Evil Lady is called, at least one of her many names. We understand now why she is associated with beauty and sex = the lust of the Evil Lady. We also know she is associated with war because of the war that broke out after the coup. As for justice and political power, anons gotta remember that she was a Sebetti queen, a ruler, and she ruled her clan, as in she administered justice to her subjects and had political power. Her being a Sebetti queen also explains her title as Queen of Heaven, because she was.

I’m going to explain something I’ve mentioned before, but now I’m going to go over it well. It’s important for anons to understand this. When the people came out of the Ark, the tip of Mt Ararat and some part of the upper summit were the only things above water. Everything else was underwater.

The Flood was a section of the huge Cataclysm that took place back then. The Cataclysm is not the Flood. The Flood was part of the Cataclysm so were the volcanoes, the Earthquakes as well as the other geological changes that occurred. From what we’ve seen with the Red Sea, it seems it’s the earthquakes = displacement of land started the Flood = rush of water in that specific geographic region.

It didn’t end here, we also know when volcanoes are active, there is also lightning and other weather related effects, like the picture of the Indonesian volcanic eruption I’m attaching with this page. And if it was MEGA volcanoes erupting all over the Earth, then it makes sense how there was an ICE AGE just after the Cataclysm had settled down a bit…or I should say the ice age is the grand finale of the Cataclysm = the closing act.

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c10321  No.14375390

>>14375346

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Naturally, at some point, regardless if it’s before or after the ice age, the Flood waters receded. And naturally, as the waters receded the land parcel around Mount Ararat grew and the survivors started to wander, explore and at some point started to migrate. But there was the problem of the mountain chain called the Taurus: as I’ve explained before (starting page 11 – about Armenia geography and weather), it’s impossible to cross on foot easily due to many disadvantages and dangers. So the survivors of the Cataclysm didn’t go directly South, nor did they go directly North, nor East. The lingered around in the mountains for some time.

Look at the maps anons: the Armenian heartland is surrounded by 3 sides which were hard to cross on foot. They can be crossed, but with great risk and difficulty. So the easiest route for the survivors to go is actually West. That’s the path most of the survivors would have taken logically. I’m sure there were some, like groups, whom ventured in all different directions, but I believe the largest groups went West first, because the geography, hydrology and the weather made it so (as explained before). It’s by going West that the survivors came upon the sources of the Euphrates and from there gradually, as the water receded, navigated downstream.

But this didn’t happen overnight. It’s not a matter of days, weeks, months or even a few years. I think this is a matter of thousands of years. With each few hundred of years, the water receded and new land was uncovered. As people’s numbers grew larger demographically, they started to migrate = having many waves of migrations. They started to build new settlements like GobekliTepe, abandoning the old ones with higher altitude + less fertile land where it was getting much colder. They started to seek warmer climate and more fertile lands, which is normal if you think about it. The survivor’s number grew so much that at one point, they started to split up into huge groups. Some of these groups went downstream Euphrates, others stayed in the settlements they already build like Gobekli Tepe, while others headed even more West. This is why I’ve said so many time that the Euphrates is like a chronological spine.

The more we go upstream, the more ancient chronologically the settlements get. It’s like we are rewinding the migration movement of the Cataclysm survivors by going upstream = following the breadcrumbs of Hansel and Gretel all the way back to the starting point which is Mt. Ararat. By finding the old settlements in the Armenian Plateau and the Taurus mountain range (like Gobekli Tepe) we can find the itinerary of the migrating groups and rewind their footsteps all the way up to the Ark. This is how Gobekli Tepe is estimated to date back to 9 000 B.C. Aleppo was founded around 5000 B.C.; while Ur and Uruk are estimated to date back around 4 000 B.C. All of these are estimations.

GobekliTepe was built and people lived there when the waters were at a certain level = downstream Euphrates was still under the Flood waters then. It took from around 9 000 B.C. to around 4000 B.C. for the Flood waters to recede completely and people be able to travel downstream and settle there = in the locations later known as Ur and Uruk. So that’s more or less around 5000 years of “waiting” for the waters clear “land” from the location of Gobekli Tepe to the lowlands of Mesopotamia. Same thing happened in the Andean Region.

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835fb6  No.14375429

>>14375390

(Please read from the start)

Why is this important? Because I think the cult of Inanna is NOT the oldest “form” or representation we have of the Evil Lady in that part of the world. It’s obvious she survived the Cataclysm by boarding the Ark. She came out of it but….since Mesopotamia was still under water that time, she dwelled in the Taurus Mountain range for a long time. I think the oldest cult of the Evil Lady is in that area, not downstream in Ur or Uruk, but upstream. When I look at Asia Minor to find a sanctuary where the cult of the Evil Lady was clearly, obviously, openly practiced, I found only one shining location = Ephesus. Which in turn confirms that many groups split and some continued to go West from the Armenian Plateau. It’s from the Taurus mountain chain migration to the West happened and people settled in the area later known as Ephesus.

Amazingly, it’s in this same geographic location (Taurus mountain chain) that the Hittite Empire rose and fell = starting a huge migration waves towards Europe. Also I’ve found out that this area was the theater of many ancient wars or conflicts between tiny mysterious and mostly unknown kingdoms. The border lines of each territory kept on changing as time went on. So it’s very hard to figure things out there, it’s very messy and complicated, terribly intertwined, mostly that we barely have any information about these small warring kingdoms.

Also in that specific geographic region there was a dominant cult of Atargatis = some call it the cult of Northern Syria goddess (later known as Dea Syria), but I think it’s more inland than the Syrian border, as in it started within the Taurus Mountain range location.

So you see anons, when they say in this paragraph that Inanna was “originally” worshiped in Sumer….that is incorrect and misleading. Her starting point is somewhere in Anatolia, specifically somewhere in the Taurus mountain range. Inanna = the Evil Lady = Lilith, came down from there (where she was settled for some time) via the Euphrates, and she resettled somewhere in Mesopotamia when the flood water receded.

But something happened which made her attack the Phoenician City-States. In turn, this made Neith travel from Ancient Egypt and confront the Evil Lady. It’s clear many battles occurred for some time because Neith didn’t make a short visit, but stayed = as in lived in Gebal for some time = a few years. This means the confrontation lasted for some time and wasn’t quickly resolved.

Ananda, I hope you are reading.

The 8 pointed star is NOT her symbol. This symbol exists in various civilizations and with various “exceptional” people or if you want to call them deities. It’s not exclusively to Inanna. As I’ve explained before, this is the Beam that comes down from the sky and is surrounded with electricity. Seen Inanna = the Evil Lady, represented with it doesn’t surprise me one bit because she was a Sebetti queen, she had access to the portal, just like the other Sebetti rulers.

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835fb6  No.14375454

>>14366973

What is left is right? what is up is down? what is black is white?

Take what the MSM has been telling you for decades and turn it a 180 degrees; you will know the truth. Whom you thought were your enemies are going to turn out to be your allies. Whom you thought were your friends are going to turn out to be your foes. Remember Soleimani? Was he a friend? Was he a foe? There are loads of secrets. Use your head, think, dig, see beyond the tricks.

Have a nice day anons…and…buckle up.

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70814f  No.14378259

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>>14375429

(Please read from the start)

As for the Lion being her symbol, this is all inaccurate and misleading. The Lion is NOT her symbol. Most of the iconography of the Evil Lady = Inanna, is of her either standing on lions or she is sitting on a throne and that throne is on the back of 2 lions. In later dates, the lions were switched to Griffins, then it evolved to Sphinxes = female Sphinxes. This is a mutation that occurred with the younger generations.

As I’ve explained before when taking a look at the bronze Plaque from Hell, a person depicted on top of an animal has a meaning: it’s pointing that person comes from a kingdom which has its heraldic symbol as a lion. And this is the case with Inanna.

We know for certain = it’s a fact, that Armenia’s symbolic animal is the horse, so when you see a person standing on the back of a horse like what Lamashtu is doing, it means they came from Armenia. So where is this kingdom with the Lion symbol located? I have 2 possibilities:

1 - It’s located somewhere in the Taurus mountain chain. I’ve just mentioned that it was a mess up there with many small kingdoms battling one another and loads of territorial change. I think this MIGHT BE what the Lion Inanna is standing on is pointing to.

2 – The second possible location is actually Atlantis. There is a possibility the Feline Clan MIGHT turn out to be the Clan of the King of kings. If this is the case, then it means the symbol of kingship in Atlantis must have been the Lion and it’s the heraldic animal of Atlantis itself. This is just a possibility. If this turns out to be correct, then the Felines Inanna is standing on top represent the kingdom she came from = Atlantis.

It’s worth noting that in the series called Game of Thrones, the heraldic symbols of the major houses coincide, for MOST of them, to the 7 Sebetti clan symbols. The 2 big families fighting for the throne in the end, turn out to be the Lion versus the Dragon. The Lion is portrayed as the cruel and usurping family. While the Dragon is portrayed as the rightful rulers, making the public sympathetic towards them, making them look cool. I’ve been wondering for a long time if this is not a projection of the coup to take the throne from the legitimate King….but in reverse. As in the symbol of the King being the Lion and the Dragon being the usurper. Here, in this series, they switched it a 180 degrees. The other symbols in this series need further study, because some are not very obvious; while others are.

My last comment is for Ninshubur: she seems to be a vassal of the Evil Lady. We still don’t know the ability of the Evil Lady. The King of kings had great spiritual powers and had spiritual healers = the fish men as helpers. The Queen of queens = Neith, had power over Fate and she was a Seer. She had the Spider women = the oracles as helpers. So what about the Evil Lady = Lilith? What was her special power and what was the heraldic symbol of her helpers? I still don’t know the answers to these questions, not yet.

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6a83a5  No.14386601

>>14378259

(Please read from the start)

“Inanna was worshiped in Sumer at least as early as the Uruk period (c. 4000 BC – c. 3100 BC), but she had little cult before the conquest of Sargon of Akkad. During the post-Sargonic era, she became one of the most widely venerated deities in the Sumerian pantheon, with temples across Mesopotamia. The cult of Inanna/Ishtar, which may have been associated with a variety of sexual rites, was continued by the East Semitic-speaking people (Akkadians, Assyrians and Babylonians) who succeeded and absorbed the Sumerians in the region. She was especially beloved by the Assyrians, who elevated her to become the highest deity in their pantheon, ranking above their own national god Ashur. Inanna/Ishtar is alluded to in the Hebrew Bible and she greatly influenced the Ugaritic Ashtart and later Phoenician Astarte, who in turn possibly influenced the development of the Greek goddess Aphrodite. Her cult continued to flourish until its gradual decline between the first and sixth centuries AD in the wake of Christianity.”

>> I said many times in this thread to stop at the end of the Akkadian era and not go further into the Assyrian era where a mutation happened, very obviously; as an example, remember how Humbaba was represented and the mutation that occurred. It’s just one example out of many. A “fracture” appears very clearly at the end of the Akkadian period. It may have started at the beginning of the Akkadian era, but it’s mostly clear to see at the end of it, just before entering the Assyrian era. It’s like a very define line was drawn = you can feel the old generation passed away, died….and a new one taking over; which explains how the mutations started occurring.

I see a lot of researchers from all kinds “attack” and “persecute” the Phoenicians and/or the Canaanites for the cult of Ishtar, as if they were the origin of all the evil in the world and all degeneracy there is. Everyone forgets that Astarte is the late form of this deity. No one points the finger at Inanna and the Sumerians….and certainly no one points the finger to Lilith….both originated from Mesopotamia and they are terribly old. And both came from the Taurus mountain range which was the fief of the Evil Lady = she settled in there first. If a researcher wants to point the finger, it should be to that region. But nope, the target practice always takes place towards the Phoenicians. Why is that?

So the Phoenicians are accused for worshiping Evil and following him because they called their deity Baal, meaning the Lord. The Inca word means Lord as well, but the Inca people weren’t accused of anything. Then the Phoenicians are accused of worshiping the immoral, degenerate Ishtar as their prime goddess – which was interpreted as them being immoral and degenerate as well. But …. It was not the Phoenicians/Canaanites which started this cult, it was “imported” to them by later generations….and no one is pointing the finger to the other civilizations whom worshiped this same deity, including the Jews, nor anyone is pointing the finger to the origin of this deity.

I’m bringing this issue on purpose because for an extremely long time = a bit more than 4 decades I’ve noticed a pattern: I’ve noticed that each time something bad or horrible, evil is discovered, it’s quickly pinned on the Canaanites/Phoenicians and they are painted to the public as evil monsters, worshipers of Satan. But, if ANY other culture/civilization does the exact same thing the Phoenicians are “accused” of doing, that other culture takes a pass, everything is swept under the rug, like it was the case with the Aztecs. I want an explanation as to why the Phoenicians are the ONLY civilization out there which was convicted of horrors in the public opinion without any trial? I know what I’m talking about.

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6a83a5  No.14386638

>>14386601

(Please read from the start)

This is the only civilization in the History of mankind which was convicted in the trial of public opinion without a single tangible physical proof. ONE and UNIQUE civilization was taken to the guillotine and executed publically solely on hearsay. Even the Armenians, despite the Genocide, their culture and civilization are recognized and the culture is not persecuted. So why is it only the Phoenicians whom some even call the Canaanites? Whom controls the universities, the media and the publishing houses? I want anons to think deep into what I’m saying. This is very serious. More serious than anyone can think. I’m repeating: I know what I’m talking about, I’m not saying these words lightly and out on a whim. I want you to think. I want you to think. I want you to think hard and deep, deeper.

Remember what (((they))) did to Potus and compare. It’s the same “persecution”. Whom (((they))) attack the most? Whom (((they))) seek so hard to destroy the public image of? In a court of Justice, each side has the RIGHT to present their case and/or defend themselves. We never heard the Phoenician side of things, only the side of the accuser. Yet, without any physical proof, and just on hearsay from one side, an entire civilization and their current day descendants are persecuted on every level of existence. The level of unfairness and cruelty displayed for this ONE people is never seen before in History and no one cares.

The situation reminds me greatly of Christ, when some Jews brought a “sinful” woman for him and asked him if they should stone her as the law of Moses and Abraham dictates. Christ replied that the one whom is without a sin amongst them = has not committed a sin, shall cast the first stone on her. Well guess what? Many stones have been raining down on the Phoenicians and their descendants for decades now without a single physical, tangible proof existing and without hearing their side of the story.

As a young student, this is what caught my attention and the unfairness of it all has created a huge dosage of outrage within me. So I decided to join the “quest” to find ANYTHING tangible to either pin the crimes for once and for all on the Phoenicians, the crimes they were accused of. Or….to find the physical evidence which is going to exonerate them from the crimes they supposedly committed = prove their innocence. I simply wanted to end it all, if I could give it a push and end this once and for all. So I joined my teacher and mentor in this same quest, he’s been there before me.

The Phoenicians/Canaanites are guilty till proven innocent in the brainwashed public perspective. What if, there is a reason why it’s this way? What if this was done on purpose for a very big reason? The reader is going to ask: did you find something old man? I did. I found loads of circumstantial evidence, a few direct evidence….and I ended up on something larger than life itself…and just the thought of it frightens me. I’ve already started to provide the circumstantial evidence to anons as Phoenician puzzle pieces. The rest is on its way.

This is a very important point the readers of this thread MUST understand because it’s connected deeply into everything that is taking place, mostly the battle between the Light and the Darkness. Think and think deep. I know what I’m saying and my words are not said lightly and foolishly.

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6a83a5  No.14386672

>>14386638

(Please read from the start)

I have 3 last comments about that paragraph about Inanna:

1 – It’s very clear in this paragraph Inanna/Ishtar got into Judaism before it entered the Phoenician culture.

2 – The sexual rites mentioned are mostly the sacred prostitution practiced worldwide = it’s the cult and rituals of the Evil Lady worship. I’ve talked about this before.

3 – The Cult of Ishtar/Inanna/Evil Lady was transfered into Greece via the Hittites, then after some time the Phoenicians made contact with them. Just check out the dates and the migrations. So it’s untrue, false to say the transfer of the cult happened solely through the Phoenicians, it was already transmitted via the Hittites. And I’m suspecting the transfer may have occurred even before that date, much much before that. Notice the location of Ephesus and the foundation time of the cult in there. Then another transfer occurred with the Phoenicians.

“Inanna appears in more myths than any other Sumerian deity. She also had an uniquely high number of epithets and alternate names, comparable only to Nergal. Many of her myths involve her taking over the domains of other deities. She was believed to have stolen the mes, which represented all positive and negative aspects of civilization, from Enki, the god of wisdom. She was also believed to have taken over the Eanna temple from An, the god of the sky. Alongside her twin brother Utu (later known as Shamash), Inanna was the enforcer of divine justice; she destroyed Mount Ebih for having challenged her authority, unleashed her fury upon the gardener Shukaletuda after he raped her in her sleep, and tracked down the bandit woman Bilulu and killed her in divine retribution for having murdered Dumuzid. In the standard Akkadian version of the Epic of Gilgamesh, Ishtar asks Gilgamesh to become her consort. When he refuses, she unleashes the Bull of Heaven, resulting in the death of Enkidu and Gilgamesh's subsequent grapple with his mortality.”

>> I bet she had many myths about her in Mesopotamia because that was her second territory where she resettled after the flood waters receded. Saying she is the deity with the most epithets, apart Nergal, is not that entirely true; unless they are talking exclusively about Mesopotamia and not the entire Eastern basin of the Mediterranean Sea. Mesopotamia was where she settled in for some time, before she first settled in the Taurus mountains.

I really doubt a real Lamassu warrior would have taken orders from Inanna, unless he is a traitor to his own clan and own queen. But don’t forget anons that we saw the early form of Lamassu as being a female, while in the Assyrian time, it developed and mutated to become solely a bearded male winged bull.

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6a83a5  No.14386682

>>14386672

(Please read from the start)

As you can read in this paragraph Inanna was very aggressive and I might say even spiteful/vengeful. She is taking the “territories” of other deities as in she is taking the kingdom of the other Sebetti rulers. If this is not a full blown out war, then I don’t know what it is anons. This is referring to the war that took place right after the murder of the King of kings and it continued after the Cataclysm took place. She wants to take the throne, the kingdom’s territory = conquest; from the other Sebetti rulers. So she was after everything along with her Evil companion and not just the throne of Heaven.

In turn this implies that each Sebetti ruler = king or queen; had their own kingdom, with their own territory and their own people to rule on earth. It fits perfectly with the Sebettis being the head of each clan. It also fits perfectly with the City-State system, which was obviously how each Sebetti ruler’s territory was organized administratively. Each Sebetti ruler had a section of land = a territory, where he had a central capital which was overseeing smaller towns and cities. While the King of kings only had a central capital = Atlantis and from there, he administered the other 6 Sebetti ruler’s capitals and the entirety of the territory.

We also know from reading Lilith that the Evil Lady attacked the Phoenician City-States. We just found out that Inanna was in the mind set of conquering the territory of the other Sebetti rulers. If we combine these 2 ideas together, doesn’t it make it sound like the Phoenician City-States territory, as in ALL of Phoenicia was the territory of ANOTHER Sebetti ruler? If so, which ruler is it? It’s not Neith, that’s for sure because her territory was in Ancient Egypt. But, in the same time, Neith’s reaction to the Evil Lady’s attack on the Phoenician City-States, projects that she came to the aid = to help someone. It’s becoming clearer for me that Neith left Ancient Egypt and settled in the City-State of Gebal for some time to help another Sebetti fight back = repel the attacks of the Evil Lady. It’s not that much for now, but I will be providing more for anons to back this up.

It’s hard to determine what the “mes” are. We don’t have a description of them, so it’s hard to determine what they are exactly. It might be some type of object, even a weapon, or it can be some type of “right” or law… it seems it’s something needed to give legitimacy to the rule and the procession of the City-State by the deity = being it’s patron deity.

As for the stories and legends/myths concerning Inanna, well, I’m not going in there deep myself. There are just too many of them and it’s very time consuming checking every single one of them. Every single one of these stories should be verified as they might be the projection of some old events which most probably happened before or after the Cataclysm.

Everything combined gives us an image of Inanna/Lilith’s personality, her behavior and her temperament. She didn’t hesitate to lie and use tricks to get her hands on those “mes”, as in she didn’t hesitate to resort to theft, lies and trickery. Just like what the Wizard did in Oz and it’s exactly what Satan is famous for. I don’t think we are going to see a nice personality reflected when it comes to Inanna/Lilith. We are going to find out she has a big sexual lust, she is vicious, spiteful, vengeful, ill-tempered, arrogant and power hungry. I’m sure I will find more negative things from her and little virtues. She is the Evil Lady after all.

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6a83a5  No.14386701

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>>14386682

(Please read from the start)

What does it mean: “Divine Retribution”? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_retribution

“Divine retribution is supernatural punishment of a person, a group of people, or everyone by a deity in response to some action. Many cultures have a story about how a deity exacted punishment upon previous inhabitants of their land, causing their doom.

An example of divine retribution is the story found in many cultures about a great flood destroying all of humanity, as described in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Hindu Vedas, or Book of Genesis (6:9–8:22), leaving one principal 'chosen' survivor. […].”

>>Isn’t it God’s punishment? It’s say that Divine Retribution is ANY type of natural Cataclysmic event. We’ve been talking about a Cataclysm in this thread. It’s not just a Flood, it’s not loads of rain coming down. Oh no! This is much much bigger. There were huge earthquakes which split the earth open, separating huge chunks of land and water rushing in, engulfing everything around. We saw volcanoes appearing and being active. We also know land was flipped like a pancake and the insides of the earth were yanked out. It all ended with an ice age.

Now we found out Inanna could “unleash” the Divine Retribution on humans. She unleashed it AFTER a bandit woman (supposedly) killed her husband. So according to this sentence, The Evil Lady was the one whom unleashed, started, triggered the Cataclysm after the Evil One was killed. From this new detail this is how sequence of events happened so far:

1 – Murder of King of kings by Evil One and other plotters.

2 – Consuming the flesh of the King of kings by the Coup plotters.

3 – Coup plotters using military force to take over and conquer – started the battle.

4 – Cataclysm unleased – co-joined by point 5.

5 – Death of the Evil One.

6 – War between the warriors of the Light and warriors of Darkness after the Cataclysm.

This is a work in progress. I will change it and modify it as I get more information. So far, this is how the situation looked like from back then. So this is a draft for now. It’s good to give us an idea on what had happened back then, in an overall view.

“Inanna/Ishtar's most famous myth is the story of her descent into and return from Kur, the Ancient Mesopotamian underworld, a myth in which she attempts to conquer the domain of her older sister Ereshkigal, the queen of the underworld, but is instead deemed guilty of hubris by the seven judges of the underworld and struck dead. Three days later, Ninshubur pleads with all the gods to bring Inanna back, but all of them refuse her except Enki, who sends two sexless beings to rescue Inanna. They escort Inanna out of the underworld, but the galla, the guardians of the underworld, drag her husband Dumuzid down to the Underworld as her replacement. Dumuzid is eventually permitted to return to heaven for half the year while his sister Geshtinanna remains in the underworld for the other half, resulting in the cycle of the seasons.”

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d6a89a  No.14395557

>>14386701

(Please read from the start)

>> This story should be handled very carefully. We know all the Sebettis and their warriors were called “children of the Sun”; this is how later generations thoughts they were all brothers and sisters. I don’t think they were biological siblings, at least not all of them (apart the royal family maybe).

The 7 judges of the underworld are most probably the Sebetti rulers here. It’s hard to explain or understand for now how one of the Sebetti rulers was judged by the 7 other rulers. Since she was a part of the 7….where the other 7 rulers come from? The King of kings is dead, murdered. And the Evil One is dead as well. So that leaves 4 other Sebetti rulers to play the role of judge since the Evil Lady is the accused. Where did they bring the number 7 then? There is something unclear here or a piece of the puzzle I haven’t gotten my hands on yet.

What is the Underworld? Where is the Underworld? This is another hard question to answer. There are many possibilities. One of them is rather strange and creepy. If I take into consideration the floating mountain from the tales of the Native American ThunderBirds, this makes that place the Upperworld, right? If that is the case, then it makes the earth = the LAND the Underworld, right? As in it’s the world that is UNDER the Upper one.

Another one is the theory of Hollow Earth. Well, as I just said, these are just a couple of the many possibilities out there. This is a door that I don’t want to open and I don’t want to go into this endless tunnel. This dig deserves a book of its own. It’s very deep, so I won’t be going there or I won’t be able to continue with my objectives.

Inanna’s vassal = Ninshubur did something or negotiated something to try to bring back Inanna from the Underworld. Instead of her, her husband was cast away there, for only 6 months in the end, after one of her “sisters” were sent to replace him for the other 6 months. Here, it’s terribly confusing. Was the Evil Lady supposed to die but her vassals intervened and instead of her getting hurt and die, the Evil One was hit instead? Was it some type of scenario where she was about to get shot and the Evil One stood in front of her and got shot in her place? Since it’s a tragic love story, I keep on wondering what really happened. But everything keeps on pointing us in the same direction = the Evil One died. But the rest, is unclear.

“Etymology

Inanna and Ishtar were originally separate, unrelated deities, but they were equated with each other during the reign of Sargon of Akkad and came to be regarded as effectively the same goddess under two different names. Inanna's name may derive from the Sumerian phrase nin-an-ak, meaning "Lady of Heaven", but the cuneiform sign for Inanna is not a ligature of the signs lady (Sumerian: nin; Cuneiform: SAL.TUG2) and sky (Sumerian: an; Cuneiform: AN). These difficulties led some early Assyriologists to suggest that Inanna may have originally been a Proto-Euphratean goddess, who was only later accepted into the Sumerian pantheon. This idea was supported by Inanna's youthfulness, as well as the fact that, unlike the other Sumerian divinities, she seems to have initially lacked a distinct sphere of responsibilities. The view that there was a Proto-Euphratean substrate language in Southern Iraq before Sumerian is not widely accepted by modern Assyriologists.”

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d6a89a  No.14395568

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>>14395557

(Please read from the start)

“The name Ishtar occurs as an element in personal names from both the pre-Sargonic and post-Sargonic eras in Akkad, Assyria, and Babylonia. It is of Semitic derivation and is probably etymologically related to the name of the West Semitic god Attar, who is mentioned in later inscriptions from Ugarit and southern Arabia. The morning star may have been conceived as a male deity who presided over the arts of war and the evening star may have been conceived as a female deity who presided over the arts of love. Among the Akkadians, Assyrians, and Babylonians, the name of the male god eventually supplanted the name of his female counterpart, but, due to extensive syncretism with Inanna, the deity remained as female, although her name was in the masculine form.”

>> Here we have a grand mystery on our hands anons. It’s the origin of the confusion about the gender of the Antelope Sebetti. Because of how the name is spelled, it’s undetermined if its origin is female or male. Some attest it’s one while the others attest it’s the second one. Don’t forget that the Bloodlines didn’t know much, just like it’s our situation right now. So (((they))) started to discover things gradually just like what is happening to us right now.

I believe this is where the hermaphrodite idea originated and all of this transgender gibberish comes from. It’s because it’s unclear which gender the Antelope Sebetti is. It seems there is doubt about it gender because there are similarities to the situation with what had happened with Lamassu: she was a female at first, then with the Assyrian times, she mutated to become male. Some of (((them))) believe there is a similar case here, as in it’s possible Inanna might have been a male deity called by another name, but it mutated and it became a female deity called Inanna around Sargon’s time.

Anons are going to ask me: so which one is it, male or female? It’s hard to tell. If the Bloodlines whom had several centuries of knowledge before we did, couldn’t figure this one out, it’s even harder for us, normal people, to figure it out. But I think this applies mostly to Inanna’s warriors/clan more than to her. When you think deep about it, Inanna is most likely female, but since her warriors were from both genders and all wearing the same type of armor = this might be the starting point for the gender confusion.

I want to take a tiny detour and check on the deity Attar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attar_(god)

“Aṯtar (Arabic: ‎; Musnad: ) is an ancient Semitic deity whose role, name, and even gender varied by culture. Depicted as either male or female, the deity was identified with the planet Venus. In pre-Islamic Southern Arabia, he was worshipped as a god of war.”

>> It’s clear we are dealing with the Antelop Clan warriors here anons. And I think the warriors were of both genders, just like what we’ve seen with the other clans: there are female and male warriors here as well. It’s not surprising if you remember Satis and Anuket from Ancient Egypt. Both were females and both belonged to the Antelope Clan.

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d6a89a  No.14395585

>>14395568

(Please read from the start)

This gives us a good idea on the geographical spread of the Antelope clan warriors. I think it fits perfectly with what I was saying as to Lilith/Inanna/the Evil Lady had settled as a first step somewhere in the Taurus mountain range. From there, as the flood waters receded, her warriors spread South going into Mesopotamia, Syria, and then Phoenicia. They most probably discovered another Sebetti already settled in Phoenicia, so under the leadership of the Evil Lady, they attacked the territory of that Sebetti ruler. Neith, whom was in Ancient Egypt, intervened in the fight and came to the rescue of that Sebetti ruler whom was settled in Phoenicia. The fight was long. Only after many centuries had passed by that the influence of the Evil Lady cult spread once again in the Middle East.

As for the gender of Ishtar….I don’t think there should be confusion because the Antelope warriors were from both genders and we’ve seen in all other clans that the Sebetti superhuman warriors were also deified and glorified along with their ruler. So in other words, these Antelope warriors also had superhuman strength and were most probably deified, male and female alike. So in one city we had a female deified warrior, and in the next city, it was a male deified warrior, and so on. This is how we got in the same time male and female deified Antelope warriors. Take a look at the Feline warriors in Ancient Egypt to understand what I’m saying here. We have the same situation with the Antelope warriors but it’s in Mesopotamia, not in Ancient Egypt.

I think they settled finally on Ishtar being a female because of her sexual appetite. Don’t forget that wherever you hear of the practice of “sacred prostitution” it’s where the cult of the Evil Lady was taking place.

With all of this, I cannot stop thinking that the Antelope Sebetti ruler might be a female. With everything that I’ve accumulated so far, from Lilith to the other information I’ve got about the Evil Lady…. I cannot help but think she must have been the ruler of the Antelope Clan. I’m not certain a 100% but I’m starting to lean in that direction. But when you think about it, it makes sense why the Bacchanalias took place with goat like creatures and why the god Pan was depicted with big sexual appetite and was goat like. This is all the sexual cult of the Evil Lady. She was the sexual hungry Sebetti ruler whom stayed alive, while the Evil One died. So she couldn’t have sex with him anymore and started demanding to be satisfied by anyone she can get her hands on.

“Name and identity

The name appears as Attar (Aramaic), Athtar (South Arabia), Astar (Aksum), Ashtar (Moab), Aṯtar (Ugarit) and Ištar in Mesopotamia. In both genders, Aṯtar is identified with the planet Venus, the morning and evening star, in some manifestations of Semitic mythology. The deity is also connected to the Hellenistic goddess Astarte.”

>> I just explained about both genders issue, so I’m not going to repeat.

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d6a89a  No.14395586

>>14395585

(Please read from the start)

“Attar was worshipped in Southern Arabia in pre-Islamic times. A god of war, he was often referred to as "He who is Bold in Battle". One of his symbols was the spear-point and the antelope was his sacred animal. He had power over Venus, the morning star, and was believed to provide humankind with water.”

>> The old man hit the bull’s eye with this one, didn’t he? ^_^ I want to remind anons to go back to what I said about the weapons of the Antelope clan warriors, as in take a look at the bronze Plaque from Hell about weapons number 5 & 6 and how both were used by the Antelope and Wolf Clan alike. The “water” mentioned might be related to the ThunderBird’s stolen ability by the Horned Serpents to make storms and rain. It’s just a possibility.

“In ancient times, Arabia shared the gods of Mesopotamia, being so close to Babylon, except the genders and symbols of these deities were later swapped around. For instance, the sun god Shamash became the sun goddess Shams, and in southern Arabia Ishtar became the male storm god Athtar. Athtar was a god of the thunderstorm, dispensing natural irrigation in the form of rain. Athtar also represented fertility and water as essential to fertility. When representing water he stood not just for the act of raining itself, but rather for the useful flow of the water after the rain, in the wadi, the Arabian watercourse which is dry except in the rainy season.

[…]”

>> They are admitting themselves here that a mutation occurred, also explaining how the cult came from Mesopotamia to Arabia. As for the Antelope warrior handling lightning; well, we know the coup plotters stole the military technology of the other clan and merged it to theirs. But there is also the possibility that the “lance” both the Wolf and the Antelope warriors yielded used to emit electricity, just like the one the ThunderBirds had, or something very close to it, maybe fire possibly.

“Origins and development

Inanna has posed a problem for many scholars of ancient Sumer due to the fact that her sphere of power contained more distinct and contradictory aspects than that of any other deity. Two major theories regarding her origins have been proposed. The first explanation holds that Inanna is the result of a syncretism between several previously unrelated Sumerian deities with totally different domains. The second explanation holds that Inanna was originally a Semitic deity who entered the Sumerian pantheon after it was already fully structured, and who took on all the roles that had not yet been assigned to other deities.”

>> I think both theories are wrong. I think Inanna is the Evil Lady. She first settled in the Taurus mountain range then went down to Syria and Mesopotamia. She was known in different names depending on which aspect of her was worshiped as a deity. I have a starting point and I have an ending point; as in I know she settled first in the Taurus mountain range first, followed by a gap (a missing puzzle piece), then she showed up as Inanna in the East and Ishtar in the West.

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d6a89a  No.14395594

File: 8e5391554401a27⋯.png (250.5 KB, 850x1165, 170:233, Uruk_Warka_Iraq_Uruk_perio….png)

File: ef96e05730c8c8e⋯.jpg (56.53 KB, 502x644, 251:322, Warka_vase_scale_.jpg)

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>>14395586

(Please read from the start)

I also have female deities with identical characteristics in Northern Syria (around the border with Turkey) and in Israel + Jordan. In page 983, (((they))) wrongfully associated Baalat of Gebal/Isis/Hathor with Anat which is another aspect of Inanna. This was incorrect in that page and it’s still incorrect now. I’m highlighting it’s incorrect.

The goddess depicted in the artifacts of that page is of a “sexualized” mysterious goddess. Apparently, still unidentified. Can anons guess whom it is we have here? = it’s the Evil Lady = Inanna/Lilith. This is not Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal, This is false and misleading from whomever put that information out. So dear reader, before jumping in haste to accuse the Phoenicians of practicing sexual perversions, remember it was a practice spread worldwide, and even the Israelites practiced it. But shhh!!!! We shouldn’t say that because it will ruin the good reputation and the good image of the Jewish people.

“As early as the Uruk period (c. 4000 – c. 3100 BC), Inanna was already associated with the city of Uruk. During this period, the symbol of a ring-headed doorpost was closely associated with Inanna. The famous Uruk Vase (found in a deposit of cult objects of the Uruk III period) depicts a row of naked men carrying various objects, including bowls, vessels, and baskets of farm products, and bringing sheep and goats to a female figure facing the ruler. The female stands in front of Inanna's symbol of the two twisted reeds of the doorpost, while the male figure holds a box and stack of bowls, the later cuneiform sign signifying the En, or high priest of the temple.”

>> I’m not satisfied with the explanation given about this vase. I’m going to take a look at this vase anons, it’s important, so a little detour is in order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warka_Vase

“The Warka Vase or Uruk vase is a slim carved alabaster vessel found in the temple complex of the Sumerian goddess Inanna in the ruins of the ancient city of Uruk, located in the modern Al Muthanna Governorate, in southern Iraq. Like the Uruk Trough and the Narmer Palette from Egypt, it is one of the earliest surviving works of narrative relief sculpture, dated to c. 3200–3000 BC. Simple relief sculpture is also known from much earlier periods, from the site of Göbekli Tepe, dating to circa 9000 BC.”

>> Let me translate that for anons: This vase is as important for the Bloodlines as the Palette of Narmer is. Do anons remember how mysterious the circumstances of finding the Palette was and that there were no “clear” records of how and mostly where it was excavated?

And then, look at the beauty of the last sentence: they are saying there is similarity between the sculptures of Gobekli Tepe and the ones from the Vase, despite around 5000 years of difference chronologically between the 2 sites. So somehow around these 5000 years (approximately), the artistic style from Gobekli Tepe managed to reach Uruk, where the vase was found.

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d6a89a  No.14395605

File: 67d4537fcd0e9ba⋯.jpg (47.06 KB, 400x350, 8:7, Gebekli_Tepe_Location_on_M….jpg)

>>14395594

(Please read from the start)

If anons can take a look at the map I’m attaching with this page, we can see the location of Gobekli Tepe site. Amazing how close it is to the Syrian/Turkish border. Amazing how it’s close = as in walking distance to the Euphrates, just a bit before it enters Syria. Amazing how this region, mostly upper Syria = around the border, it’s where the mysterious Upper Syrian goddess cult existed. Amazing how this region is located within the Taurus mountain range. Amazing how it’s easy to navigate from the location of Gobekli Tepe to downstream Uruk.

Don’t get me wrong anons, I’m not saying the Evil Lady settled in Gobekli Tepe. I’m saying she settled in the area. Don’t go thinking Gobekli Tepe is the only ancient settlement of its kind. This is an ancient Tell and I’m sure there are plenty of such ancient settlements turned into Tells all along the Euphrates since the survivors kept on moving downstream as the flood water receded. Remember how I keep on repeating that the Euphrates is a chronological SPINE. Again, I’m certain there is more than one Tell in the area = in the Taurus mountain range. Is Gobekli Tepe a possibility of where the Evil Lady settled? = yes. Is Gobekli Tepe where the Evil Lady settled for SURE? = no. It’s just a possibility = one of many options. We haven’t been told where the other sites = Tells are and if they have been excavated. The Turkish gvt is very secretive as to what they are doing in the area. Amazingly, it’s also the geographic area where the Mitanni then the Hittite kingdoms/Empires existed. Truly amazing! Just one coincidence after the other. It’s just a pile of circumstantial evidence I’ve got on my hands. I hope anons also noticed the possibility of the Evil Lady living for thousands of years = extremely long life span.

I don’t know how Ishtar and Inanna are connected but it’s true that both deities share the same characteristics. I’m uncertain, but maybe the connection lies within them belonging to the same clan = the Antelope clan. This is what it looks like so far anyway. I’m just saying there is a missing link, a missing piece of the puzzle connecting the 2 deities together directly. I have 2 out of 3 pieces and I’m missing the middle one connecting all 3 together. I didn’t look into Ishtar, simply because I know she is of later date. I’m more interested in the older aspects of this Evil Lady because it’s closer to the origin.

Anons might ask: if the Evil Lady and her warriors were mostly settled in the Taurus mountain range, then stayed some time in Mesopotamia, then how come we find Antelope clan warriors in Ancient Egypt? There are 3 possibilities:

1 – Not all Antelope warriors joined the Evil Lady, some (probably a minority) were still loyal to the King of kings.

2 – Some Antelope warriors went to Ancient Egypt as spies.

3 – They were scattered worldwide in different location due to the Cataclysm that occurred. I know this sentence doesn’t make much sense to anons right now, but it will later on in this thread as I progress. I will be explaining how it all happened as I progress and gather more puzzle pieces. I think this is the correct possibility explaining how we got Antelope warriors in Ancient Egypt. Remember the 2 dogs palette and the battle depicted on it? I’ve already explained this palette to anons back in page 1 158.

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d6a89a  No.14395618

File: 621a02ff535aa4b⋯.jpg (185.41 KB, 800x829, 800:829, Warka_Vase_Lower_Register.jpg)

File: 51f295081d05d9f⋯.jpg (248.31 KB, 800x588, 200:147, _Warka_Vase_reconsitution.jpg)

File: 3489196bd568255⋯.jpg (97.27 KB, 561x600, 187:200, warka_vase_inanna.jpg)

File: a2add4e5a16e5ab⋯.jpg (210.37 KB, 752x897, 752:897, Rihanna_Shhh_tattoo.jpg)

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>>14395605

(Please read from the start)

“The bottom register displays naturalistic components of life, including water and plants, such as date palm, barley, and wheat. On the upper portion of the lowest register, alternating rams and ewes march in a single file. The middle register conveys naked men carrying baskets of foodstuffs symbolizing offerings. Lastly, the top register depicts the goddess Inanna accepting a votive offer. Inanna stands at the front portion of the gate surrounded by her richly filled shrine and storehouse (identifiable by two reed door poles with dangling banners). This scene may illustrate a reproduction of the ritual marriage between the goddess and Dumunzi, her consort that ensures Uruk's continued vitality. The vase depicts an example of hierarchy being a portion of nature, and, according to anthropologist Susan Pollock, shows that social and natural hierarchies were most likely akin to each other in ancient Mesopotamia.”

>> Correct description given to the lowest register whom is divided into 2 sub-registers = levels. Correct description as well for the middle register. The description giving to the top register is somewhat correct: the ceremonial offering is correct, as well as the warehouse with the offerings in it. What I’m scratching my head about are the “poles”: are these really poles or are they something else? Could they be some type of Djed like poles? Or are they something similar to the Sharur weapon? Or are these Flag/heraldic symbol poles? I’m unsure of it. There also seem to be something on top of Inanna’s head, but since that part is damaged, it’s unclear what it is.

The interpretation given that this is a reproduction of the ritual marriage between the goddess and Dumunzi, her consort that ensures Uruk's continued vitality: well, I don’t agree to that. And why Inanna seem to be putting her thumb finger either on her lips or inside her mouth? This is symbolic and it has a meaning. The more I look at this, the more I wonder if this is not the origin of where the Illuminati “vow of silence” comes from = if this depiction of Inanna is not the starting point of this “vow of silence”. See pictures attached with this page.

“Discovery

The vase was discovered as a collection of fragments by German Assyriologists in their sixth excavation season at Uruk in 1933/1934. The find was recorded as find number W14873 in the expedition's field book under an entry dated 2 January 1934, which read "Großes Gefäß aus Alabaster, ca. 96 cm hoch mit Flachrelief" ("large container of alabaster, circa 96 cm high with flat-reliefs"). The vase, which showed signs of being repaired in antiquity, stood 3 feet, ¼ inches (1 m) tall. Other sources cite it as having been a slightly taller 106 cm, with an upper diameter of 36 cm. It is named after the modern village of Warka – known as Uruk to the ancient Sumerians. A plaster cast was made of the original and this reproduction stood for many decades in room 5 of the Near-Eastern Museum in Berlin (Vorderasiatisches Museum Berlin), Germany.”

>> I have a question: which one do you think is the original and which one is the reproduction? The one at the German Museum or the one if the Iraqi Museum? This vase seems to be of HIGH IMPORTANCE for the Bloodlines; so you think (((they))) returned the original one to the Iraqis?

“Decoration

The vase has four registers – or tiers – of carving. The bottom register depicts the vegetation in the Tigris and Euphrates delta, such as the natural reeds and cultivated grain. Above this vegetation is a procession of animals, such as ram and sheep presented in a strict profile view. The procession continues in the second register with nude males carrying bowls and jars of sacrificial elements, such as fruit and grain. The top register is a full scene, rather than a continuous pattern. In this register, the procession ends at the temple area. Inanna, one of the chief goddesses of Mesopotamia and later known as Ishtar in the Akkadian pantheon, stands, signified by two bundles of reeds behind her. She is being offered a bowl of fruit and grain by a nude figure. A figure in ceremonial clothing – presumably a chieftain/priest – stands nearby with the procession approaching him from behind.”

>> Correct description.

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d6a89a  No.14395624

File: 979e82d50982f1c⋯.jpg (27.08 KB, 200x300, 2:3, 100317_07_Warka_Vase.jpg)

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>>14395618

(Please read from the start)

“Theft and restoration

The Warka Vase was one of the thousands of artifacts which were looted from the National Museum of Iraq during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. In April 2003 it was forcibly wrenched from the case where it was mounted, snapping at the base (the foot of the vase remaining attached to the base of the smashed display case.”

>> Whom invaded Iraq in 2003? What are the odds this vase was targeted on purpose; as well as similar “interesting” artifacts in Iraq? Which vase do you think was “damaged”: the real one of the replica? Where is the real one? Whom are the collectors?

“The vase was later returned during an amnesty to the Iraq Museum on 12 June 2003 by three unidentified men in their early twenties, driving a red Toyota vehicle. As reported by a correspondent for The Times newspaper,

As they struggled to lift a large object wrapped in a blanket out of the boot, the American guards on the gate raised their weapons. For a moment, a priceless 5,000-year-old vase thought to have been lost in looting after the fall of Baghdad seemed about to meet its end. But one of the men peeled back the blanket to reveal carved alabaster pieces that were clearly something extraordinary. Three feet high and weighing 600lb intact, this was the Sacred Vase of Warka, regarded by experts as one of the most precious of all the treasures taken during looting that shocked the world in the chaos following the fall of Baghdad. Broken in antiquity and stuck together, it was once again in pieces.

Soon after the vase's return, broken into 14 pieces, it was announced that the vase would be restored. A pair of comparison photographs, released by the Oriental Institute, Chicago, showed significant damage (as of the day of return, 12 June 2003) to the top and bottom of the vessel.

The fully restored Warka Vase (museum number IM19606) is now on display in the Iraq Museum.”

>> Look at the James Bond like story of returning the damaged Vase. Red car and the details of it all, make it sound like a Bond movie, doesn’t it? But amazingly, no one was arrested, no one was interrogated, no results of investigation (if it took place) and no one was held responsible. We don’t even know how the “important sacred” vase ended up in the hands of these 3 men and whom they are. I’m asking again: which one do you think is the authentic vase and which one do you think it’s the replica? Do (((they))) return an artifact (((they))) took? To WHOM is this vase so important and sacred?

I’m done with the vase. Now anons understand what it’s all about. Let’s go back to Inanna.

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ef72e1  No.14405247

>>14395624

(Please read from the start)

“Seal impressions from the Jemdet Nasr period (c. 3100 – c. 2900 BC) show a fixed sequence of symbols representing various cities, including those of Ur, Larsa, Zabalam, Urum, Arina, and probably Kesh. This list probably reflects the report of contributions to Inanna at Uruk from cities supporting her cult. A large number of similar seals have been discovered from phase I of the Early Dynastic period (c. 2900 – c. 2350 BC) at Ur, in a slightly different order, combined with the rosette symbol of Inanna. These seals were used to lock storerooms to preserve materials set aside for her cult.”

>> The rosette is NOT the symbol of Inanna. She, along with the other Sebetti, could open the portal, since they are the heavenly rulers. We also know for certain the rosette is not EXCLUSIVELY Inanna’s because we’ve seen it many times on various pre-dynastic Ancient Egyptian artifacts, including Narmer’s Palette (starting page 122), the Maceheads (starting page 811) and the Gebel Tarif knife handle (page 815). We also know the rosette mutated and transformed to take its final form as the Caduceus (page 769).

“Various inscriptions in the name of Inanna are known, such as a bead in the name of King Aga of Kish circa 2600 BC, or a tablet by King Lugal-kisalsi circa 2400 BC:

"For An, king of all the lands, and for Inanna, his mistress, Lugal-kisalsi, king of Kish, built the wall of the courtyard."

— Inscription of Lugal-kisalsi.

During the Akkadian period (c. 2334 – 2154 BC), following the conquests of Sargon of Akkad, Inanna and originally independent Ishtar became so extensively syncretized that they became regarded as effectively the same. The Akkadian poet Enheduanna, the daughter of Sargon, wrote numerous hymns to Inanna, identifying her with Ishtar. Sargon himself proclaimed Inanna and An as the sources of his authority. As a result of this, the popularity of Inanna/Ishtar's cult skyrocketed. Alfonso Archi, who was involved in early excavations of Ebla, assumes Ishtar was originally a goddess venerated in the Euphrates valley, pointing out that an association between her and the desert poplar is attested in the most ancient texts from both Ebla and Mari. He considers her, a moon god (eg. Sin) and a sun deity of varying gender (Shamash/Shapash) to be the only deities shared between various early Semitic peoples of Mesopotamia and ancient Syria, who otherwise had different not necessarily overlapping pantheons.”

>> There is no confusion or overlapping. I think most if not all are members of the same Clan or they are different aspects of the same deity = the Evil Lady. I’m not that acquainted with Mesopotamian pantheon, I just know the basics, but I’m sure if I go into an in-depth study I will found deities with many aspects to them, just like it was the case with Neith in Ancient Egypt. As I’ve suggested before Ishtar could be pointing to the Antelope warriors whom have an overly large sexual appetite = very sexualized. It maybe have been used as Lilith was to name one person and in the same time to indicate /point to demons = a double meaning word. It’s possible this is how Ishtar started = as a double meaning word but with time it evolved into being the name of a FEMALE sexual addict deity. It’s just a theory from my part. This needs further digging and investigation as I didn’t look too deep into it.

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ef72e1  No.14405268

>>14405247

(Please read from the start)

“Worship

During the Pre-Sargonic era, the cult of Inanna was rather limited, but, after the reign of Sargon, she quickly became one of the most widely venerated deities in the Sumerian pantheon. She had temples in Nippur, Lagash, Shuruppak, Zabalam, and Ur, but her main cult center was the Eanna temple in Uruk, whose name means "House of Heaven" (Sumerian: e2-anna; Cuneiform: E2.AN). The original patron deity of this fourth-millennium BC city was probably An. After its dedication to Inanna, the temple seems to have housed priestesses of the goddess. During later times, while her cult in Uruk continued to flourish, Ishtar also became particularly worshipped in the Upper Mesopotamian kingdom of Assyria (modern northern Iraq, northeast Syria and southeast Turkey), especially in the cities of Nineveh, Aššur and Arbela (modern Erbil). During the reign of the Assyrian king Assurbanipal, Ishtar rose to become the most important and widely venerated deity in the Assyrian pantheon, surpassing even the Assyrian national god Ashur.”

>> What are the odds Sargon was a descendant of either the Evil Couple or one of the main coup plotters? I’m only indicating this is possible, I didn’t verify it myself. I’m saying the following out of memory, so forgive me if I got it wrong, but I think Naram-Sin was the grandson = descendant of Sargon. This explains his helmet = Antelope clan heraldic symbol (page 63). It CAN (=possibility) also explain why Jacques de Morgan was sooooo interested in the Stele of Naram-Sin.

Another clue that Sargon and Naram-Sin might have been direct descendants of the Evil Lady or at least of the Antelope Clan warriors is the SIZE of Naram-Sin as depicted on his Stele. The Sebetti rulers and their warriors were BIG in size = they are the giants researchers are looking into for so long.

I want to explain something to anons: the possibity of Sargon being a descendant of the Evil Couple is uncertain and even if it was the case, it doesn’t mean Mesopotamia was (((their))) territory. Let me explain:

First of all, I have no idea how many children the Evil Couple had. As in exactly how many kids the Evil One had with the Evil Lady. Sometimes, it shows it’s one and sometimes it shows it’s two. Could it be more than 2? I have no idea. But I do know 3 facts for sure:

A – Together, the Evil Couple had at least one direct descendant. We know for sure, the Evil Couple had AT LEAST ONE CHILD born from both of them together = as in a pure blood from both parents. We’ve seen a projection of this in the statue of Raziel (pages 1 127 – 1 128) from the movie Mortal Instruments: City of Bones. We don’t know WHERE this child of the Evil Couple was born?

B – The Evil One genetic illness didn’t allow him to have children easily and if they were born, these children didn’t live for long; as was the case with Albert Pike and Henry VIII = sickness of the kings.

C – The Evil One died at some point after he murdered the King of kings and tried to take the throne = so I don’t know how much time he had on his hands to have descendants.

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ef72e1  No.14405288

>>14405268

(Please read from the start)

This is going to be a messy explanation from me.

From what I said a few pages ago about Inanna/Lilith/the Evil Lady have settled in first in the Taurus mountain range when the flood water level was high. As the waters receded, she along with her clan, went downstream Euphrates and settled in Mesopotamia. After that, she confrontated Neith at some point in time. So the question is: where was the child of the Evil Couple born? Was it in the Taurus mountain range? Was it in Mesopotamia? Or was on the Armenian Highlands just after coming out of the Ark?

To solve the where, we must find the when. I have no idea how long a Sebetti queen stays pregnant. For normal human females, it takes 9 month for the baby to form: since conception till birth. Were the Sebetti the same? Well, one thing for sure, we normal humans are very close to them biologically; apart the Sebetti have very enhanced genes, superior to ours. But I think their “normal” biological functions were very similar to ours as in they slept, they ate etc. So when it comes to pregnancy, I think they were very close to us as well.

Based on this, I can say the child of the Evil Couple was born around 9 months, give or take a few months, after he was conceived by the Evil Duo. We know the coup started with the murder of the King of kings. Then the Evil One, after consuming the flesh of the King, tried to take the throne and some type of military confrontation took place. Then something happened ,the Cataclysm started and the Evil One died (possible sequence of events in page 1 228). Somewhere, sometime along the line that child was conceived as the coup was plotted and executed. Or…..there is another possibility of him being conceived and reared in a secret way before this series of events = way before the murder of the King. And by the time the murder happened, the child was already walking and talking; but living in secret because the union = marriage of the Evil Couple was not “accepted”. I mean there is a possibility the Evil Duo had a secret child together while they were living in Atlantis.

This child, had in turn children, post Cataclysm of course. But where did he live? Did he live in the Taurus mountain range or in Mesopotamia? I don’t know. I also don’t know how many children he had because his father’s genetic illness was passed onto him; as in he couldn’t have easily children of his own.

We also have from reading about Inanna and Lilith information that the Evil Lady mated with “other men”, mostly likely after the death of the Evil One, as in post Cataclysm. How many children did she have from these men? Whom were the men she mated with after the death of the Evil One? Were they the lieutenants of the Evil One? Is Nergal one of them? What became of these children? Can we consider their blood purity as 50 % since they only came from the Evil Lady and not from the Evil Duo combined? This digging tunnel is insane in complexity and extremely hard, extreme extremely hard to figure out.

What is certain is that not all rulers of Mesopotamia were the descendants of the Evil Couple as in not all were bad, and not all were good. We just need to review the cases, one by one, for the rulers in specific and the dynasty they belonged to in general. We also got to take into consideration the possibility that some Mesopotamian rulers were puppets and/or weak and “powerful, hidden” people behind the curtain manipulated things.

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ef72e1  No.14405305

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>>14405288

(Please read from the start)

What I am certain of? = I’m certain that starting from the Akkadian era, it’s mostly noticeable at the end of it, there is a “fracture” = a chronological CUT. It’s as if the OLD generation passed away and the new one came and the mutation started there. That’s why I keep on telling anons to stop at the end of the Akkadian era when it comes to Mesopotamia. There is a clear line drawn there, dividing the phases between the old generation and the new one.

Another thing I’m certain of is that at least one DIRECT descendant of the Evil Couple stayed back in the Taurus mountain range and formed the Hittites empire. And Nefertiti was a Hittite princess whom married the Egyptian Pharaoh Amenophis IV = this is how the Blood of the Evil couple got directly into Ancient Egyptian Royal family. Did the blood of the Evil Couple exist in Ancient Egypt before the Hittite Empire existed? I don’t know, I haven’t checked it, but it’s highly possible because in old times they used to send princesses to marry into other royal families. So the chances are high like for example a Sumerian princess might have been sent to marry an Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh, bringing the Blood of the Evil Couple with her to Ancient Egypt. This is highly complex and we need to verify it all one by one, mostly with the high level of concubines ancient rulers had. This is highly complex. Untangling this is worth of a prize. So don’t jump dear reader into assuming all rulers in Ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia are good, or are bad. We simply don’t know which is which and we need to put them all under the microscope. This is highly complex.

When the Hittites kingdom collapsed, they migrated in many waves in different directions while some stayed and regrouped with other locals or became citizens to neighboring kingdoms in the Taurus mountain range. A huge mixing occurred. And with the migration of the Hittites, the blood of the Evil Couple got into Europe. Into Greece = Alexander the Great was one with that blood for example…and it got into the Franks, as in they are the direct descendants of the Hittites. Same goes for the Etruscans; if you take a Hittites pottery and an Etruscan pottery you are unable to spot the difference between them, mostly at the early production phase of the Etruscans.

From there on, it is easy to retrace the footsteps of the Bloodlines. These are the big chunks that I’ve managed to put together over the decades but I do have big gaps and blind spots as well which needed more work. So much to do.

“Individuals who went against the traditional gender binary were heavily involved in the cult of Inanna. During Sumerian times, a set of priests known as gala worked in Inanna's temples, where they performed elegies and lamentations. Men who became gala sometimes adopted female names and their songs were composed in the Sumerian eme-sal dialect, which, in literary texts, is normally reserved for the speech of female characters. Some Sumerian proverbs seem to suggest that gala had a reputation for engaging in anal sex with men. During the Akkadian Period, kurgarrū and assinnu were servants of Ishtar who dressed in female clothing and performed war dances in Ishtar's temples. Several Akkadian proverbs seem to suggest that they may have also had homosexual proclivities. Gwendolyn Leick, an anthropologist known for her writings on Mesopotamia, has compared these individuals to the contemporary Indian hijra. In one Akkadian hymn, Ishtar is described as transforming men into women.”

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e1128c  No.14414376

>>14405305

(Please read from the start)

>> The first sentence is a real beauty: it says it all = it’s crystal clear where the feminism, transgenderism and homosexual practices, obsessions of the Cult come from. This is the start of everything, including the perverted, bloody sexual practices and the spirit cooking. All of this craziness and perversion originated from the cult of the Evil Lady.

“According to the early scholar Samuel Noah Kramer, towards the end of the third millennium BC, kings of Uruk may have established their legitimacy by taking on the role of the shepherd Dumuzid, Inanna's consort. This ritual lasted for one night on the tenth day of the Akitu, the Sumerian new year festival, which was celebrated annually at the spring equinox. The king would then partake in a "sacred marriage" ceremony, during which he engaged in ritual sexual intercourse with the high priestess of Inanna, who took on the role of the goddess. In the late twentieth century, the historicity of the sacred marriage ritual was treated by scholars as more-or-less an established fact, but, largely due to the writings of Pirjo Lapinkivi, many have begun to regard the sacred marriage as a literary invention rather than an actual ritual.”

>> Nope, it was a real, actual ritual. It’s one of the many practices of the sacred prostitution which was practiced by the Evil Lady followers.

“The cult of Ishtar was long thought to have involved sacred prostitution, but this is now rejected among many scholars. Hierodules known as ishtaritum are reported to have worked in Ishtar's temples, but it is unclear if such priestesses actually performed any sex acts and several modern scholars have argued that they did not. Women across the ancient Near East worshipped Ishtar by dedicating to her cakes baked in ashes (known as kamān tumri). A dedication of this type is described in an Akkadian hymn. Several clay cake molds discovered at Mari are shaped like naked women with large hips clutching their breasts. Some scholars have suggested that the cakes made from these molds were intended as representations of Ishtar herself.”

>> The first idea in this paragraph involving the sacred prostitution is nothing but a lie, untrue and false. The practice never stopped. All the way till sometime in the 6th century A.D., there are records = complaints from many places in the Middle East, including Ancient Egypt, from the early Christians, about the practice of the sacred prostitution by the pagans. Then, after a hard crackdown, it went underground and kept on being practiced till this current day. As proof I can give you the Rothschild ball where the orgies take place in the after after-party – see pictures on page 759. We can see, in both pictures (old ball & new ball) that they are disguised as the Evil Couple. If it’s based solely on this picture, then I say the Antelope Sebetti ruler is the Evil Lady and the Serpent Sebetti ruler is the Evil One (remember Sisiutl from the Native Americans). But anons, I’m still unsure of it all a 100%. I’ve been flip flopping for a long time about this point and I’ve been stuck here. I cannot make up my mind because I’m finding hints in this or that direction at the same time and it’s confusing me.

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e1128c  No.14414387

>>14414376

(Please read from the start)

“Iconography

Symbols

Inanna/Ishtar's most common symbol was the eight-pointed star, though the exact number of points sometimes varies. Six-pointed stars also occur frequently, but their symbolic meaning is unknown. The eight-pointed star seems to have originally borne a general association with the heavens, but, by the Old Babylonian Period (c. 1830 – c. 1531 BC), it had come to be specifically associated with the planet Venus, with which Ishtar was identified. Starting during this same period, the star of Ishtar was normally enclosed within a circular disc. During later Babylonian times, slaves who worked in Ishtar's temples were sometimes branded with the seal of the eight-pointed star. On boundary stones and cylinder seals, the eight-pointed star is sometimes shown alongside the crescent moon, which was the symbol of Sin (Sumerian Nanna) and the rayed solar disk, which was a symbol of Shamash (Sumerian Utu).”

>> I’ve explained this before: The rosette is not exclusively Inanna’s. We’ve seen it in many artifacts in pre-dynastic Ancient Egypt as well. The explanation given in this paragraph about the star is untrue and misleading. The Star is the beam of light surrounded with electricity that comes down from the sky as I’ve explained this before. And I think it’s related to ALL the Sebetti rulers and their warriors as they were the ones capable to activating that beam of light. They are the only ones with the “power” to active it.

Anons look which era they are talking about here = OLD BABYLONIAN, meaning = MUTATION. The younger generations didn’t understand the REAL meaning behind these symbols and they interpreted them as they “thought” they were, not as they really were at the starting point = origin. I’ve also explained this many times already in this thread.

“Inanna's cuneiform ideogram was a hook-shaped twisted knot of reeds, representing the doorpost of the storehouse, a common symbol of fertility and plenty. The rosette was another important symbol of Inanna, which continued to be used as a symbol of Ishtar after their syncretism. During the Neo-Assyrian Period (911 – 609 BC), the rosette may have actually eclipsed the eight-pointed star and become Ishtar's primary symbol. The temple of Ishtar in the city of Aššur was adorned with numerous rosettes”

>> Oh la la! Look at the mutation here and look at the date. It’s quite late chronologically = very far from the starting point. Do you remember when we were taking a look into Isis from Ancient Egypt and we found out that the cult changed, stuff were added or emitted according to the era it was worshiped in and the “group” that did the worship? In later generation, everyone just came in, added or omitted stuff to the cult of Isis however, whenever they wanted it = depending on their preferences. It’s like they personalized the cult according to their whims and tastes. I think here the situation is similar here…it’s why I keep on using the word “mutation”.

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59ab23  No.14414677

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>>14414387

(Please read from the start)

The reed poles in front of Inanna’s temple (or inside it) remind me of 2 different things:

1 – The Kuphar boats made of reed (starting page 15) which can be found on the banks on the Euphrates River.

2 – The Staff weapon. We already know that a type of Staff weapon is used by the ThunderBirds and it shoots out electricity. We also know that the Wolf and the Antelope Sebetti warriors use some type of staff as seen on the upper register of the bronze Plaque of the Hells – weapon number 5 (page 965). But we don’t know what it shoots; if it’s electricity like the Sharur or if it’s fire or anything else.

The way these reed poles are depicted in Inanna’s temple, with a knot or a circle on top makes it tricky to guess what it really is. I don’t think that knot is related to the Shenu rings but we do have loads of imagery we can compare with in this thread: Nekhbet staff page 898 – seraphim staff page 903 –cylinder seal imprint second picture page 966 – cylinder seal imprint page 967 – Hathor lotus staff second picture page 985 – Was staff page 992 etc. These are just a few examples and I’m sure we can find more if we look at older pages.

Till now, it’s unclear what these staffs specifically mean. It can be anything, from the weapon I just mentioned, to a flag pole, to simple decoration. This needs further digging.

“Inanna/Ishtar was associated with lions, which the ancient Mesopotamians regarded as a symbol of power. Her associations with lions began during Sumerian times; a chlorite bowl from the temple of Inanna at Nippur depicts a large feline battling a giant snake and a cuneiform inscription on the bowl reads "Inanna and the Serpent", indicating that the cat is supposed to represent the goddess. During the Akkadian Period, Ishtar was frequently depicted as a heavily armed warrior goddess with a lion as one of her attributes.”

>> As I already told anons before, I don’t agree with this interpretation about the Lion being a symbol of Inanna/Ishtar or the Feline being associated with her. I think the Akkadian misunderstood the meaning of her standing or sitting on a throne on top of a Lion. It has the same meaning as the Horse Lamashtu is kneeling upon in the lower register of the Bronze Plaque from Hell = the animals in both cases represent specific geographic locations as in countries = kingdoms. In other words, the Lion, which Inanna stands upon (or sits with the throne) in early stages of this iconography , is a symbolic representation of the kingdom she comes from = her place of birth = her origin – where she lived.

The inscription on the bowl – I hope I got the correct picture of the bowl – says: Inanna and the snake. It doesn’t say Inanna “fighting” the snake. Here it can be interpreted in 3 ways:

A – The Main Stream History interpretation is that Inanna in her Feline form is fighting a Serpent. Well, I guess this logical if we combine the inscription with the design on the bowl.

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59ab23  No.14414711

File: 4be6849a79d803b⋯.jpg (48.63 KB, 266x267, 266:267, Lamashtu_Neo_Assyrian_Louv….jpg)

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>>14414677

(Please read from the start)

B – We can play around a bit with the words and say that Inanna and the Serpent are ONE and the SAME; or they are together = same side, same team. See, the inscription didn’t say Inanna “fighting” the Serpent. It can make it sound like Inanna is WITH the Serpent, siding with it, not represented alongside it on the bowl.

C – The Lion could indicate the place of origin = where they came from; while the Serpent represents the coup plotters. The Lion could represent the rightful heir of the throne fitting the coup plotters.

I think it’s option B & C combined. Why? Well, take a look the details from the Kuphar boat Lamashtu is riding on the bronze plaque of the Hells. See, the decoration of the boat? = it’s got the head of a Serpent on the front and the head of an Antelope on the rear. We know that these 2 heraldic animals are the symbols of the Evil Couple. Joined together they merged to become the Horned Serpent. It makes no sense to have a lion as Inanna’s heraldic symbol while she wears a triple horned crown on her head and her vassal Ninshubur has Antelope horns on the imprint of the famous Inanna cylinder seal.

I think the Lion represents the land = kingdom she comes from. I don’t know if it’s Atlantis or if it’s one of the small kingdoms which existed in the Taurus mountain range after the flood. The Lion = Feline is one of the options as the heraldic animal of the King of kings.

The notion of Lion being the king of the jungle or the king of all animals is very old. I always wondered why the lion was picked from all the fierce animals for the “king” role; why not the wolf or the bear, if you think about it, they are just as fierce as the lion. And through out history, most of the kings had the lion as their heraldic symbol, mostly the western countries. Lions = Felines have been associated with kingship and ruling for an extremely long time.

Also it makes no sense to see Feline warriors like Bes, Bastet and Sekhmet fight tooth and nail the Horned Serpents and the multi-morphs, protecting babies and children from them.

The Lion = Feline is one of the possible heraldic animal of the King of kings of Atlantis and because of that, it might have also been the heraldic animal of Atlantis. We can say there is a possibility the Lion represents the throne and the kingdom in the same time. Since the Evil Lady and the Evil One plotted to take the throne, they might consider themselves as the “legitimate” rulers of Atlantis (in their twisted mind), therefore, the Lion became their heraldic animal, since it’s the symbol of the King of kings. And in the same time, it also represents the Land where Inanna came from. We know it’s not exclusively her symbol and we’ve seen Feline being associated to deities or rulers = kings in other cultures worldwide. It’s faint, but there is definitely a connection between the Lion heraldic animal and the King of kings. I need to gather more evidence anons. This is thin, it’s not enough. I still don’t know for sure what the heraldic animal of the King of kings is.

We mustn’t forget that the Evil Lady was a Sebetti queen which makes her royalty as well, but more like a minor or secondary royalty compared to the King of kings. This is another reason why Inanna is associated to power, justice, ruling and kingship.

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59ab23  No.14414736

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This is the old man,

Today, this video was brought to my attention.

Our smiles were from ear to ear. Listen carefully, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Have a nice day ^_^

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bf7e6a  No.14425421

File: 9ab8a565143ccb5⋯.jpg (43.7 KB, 320x676, 80:169, Ishtar_stele_of_Shamsh_res….jpg)

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>>14414711

(Please read from the start)

When you look at Inanna’s iconography, it’s becoming obvious she is related to the Antelope Clan. This is why I’m starting to think that the Evil Lady might be the Sebetti ruler of the Antelope Clan and the Evil One is the Sebetti ruler of the Serpent Clan.

Take a look at the replica drawing of the imprint of the cylinder seal from the previous .What are those in the back of Inanna on the imprint of the Cylinder seal? Is it her WINGS, stolen tech? Are those arrows, as arrows used for archery? Don’t we know already the Antelope Clan warriors are also archers? Just like the Wolf warriors? We talked about this before and Satis (starting page 1 015) from Ancient Egypt falls into this category. Maybe it’s both = wings and arrows? The first picture I’ve put with this page also shows Inanna holding an archery bow, despite the fact this is imagery comes from a late date = 8th century B.C. We also know Ishtar is known for her archery skills. What is amazing about this is the small spark we see depicted on top of the bow = electricity. This is to indicate that she used to shoot some type of beam or electricity.

We also know that her “aid” or vassal Ninshubur is always represented wearing a crown with Antelope horns on it.

Inanna wears a triple horned crown which points to her stealing the horns technology of the Lamassu and the Ram clans and merging it with her own. It goes the same for her wings we see her represented with and the owl is wrongfully associated with her because of the Burney relief – I’m putting once more the picture of the Burney relief.

The Burney relief dates back from the Old Babylonian period, estimated to date back between 1800-1750 B.C. So of course there is a mutation and it’s obvious in the relief. I mean the Evil Lady stole the military tech from the ThunderBirds = got the wings and the boots. She is standing on the lions which indicated where she comes from. The 2 owls are ThunderBirds but I don’t think the Babylonians truly understood what they mean/represent = as in the enemies of the Evil Lady. I think the Babylonians didn’t grasp the depth of things, misunderstood things and mixed things up.

I also believe when this relief was found in the early XXth century and then acquitted by the British Museum, the “experts” of the Bloodlines didn’t figure out a mutation occurred in the Babylonian times and that the Babylonians misunderstood the meaning of the owls. The Bloodlines thought the Babylonians got it accurately and this is the REAL, authentic image of their QUEEN = the Evil Lady = the WHORE of Babylon.

I hope anons finally realized that the Burney relief is the origin of the OWL symbolism we see current day Bloodline use, including in Hollywood like it was the case of the movie Beautiful Creatures – page 1 080. This is how the OWL became (((their))) symbol. In the T.V. series called Lucifer, there look to be one of the angels with owl wings (page 1 153). And owls are known to be Birds of Prey, just like the Eagles are. The (((idiots))) don’t even know it’s the symbol of the ThunderBirds = their enemy. LoL! (((They))) have been using the symbol of (((their))) enemy, thinking, believing it’s the symbol of the Evil Lady = (((their))) queen = (((their))) mother to all. The irony of it all, is ridicule itself.

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bf7e6a  No.14425479

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>>14425421

(Please read from the start)

More artifacts show us Inanna = the Evil Lady standing on Antelopes = indicating her Clan or where she came from = a kingdom run, governed by Antelopes. It doesn’t matter which era the artifacts come from because this type of imagery is rather stereotyped and it appeared in many eras. I don’t see anyone from the Main Stream History or the Alternative History alike, associating the Antelope to Inanna even though the iconography is there. See what I mean anons? Even the so called “experts” didn’t mention any of this. This is why I love archaeology: the artifacts never lie. It’s right there in front of you. People can be biased or interpret things wrongfully but the archaeological artifacts don’t lie and are not biased. You gotta put yourself in the shoes of the person whom left this artifact behind and see it from their perspective = their own eyes and understanding, NOT YOURS. You CANNOT interpret an object according to your time, your understanding, your views, your knowledge and your culture. What we know now is different from what the ancestors used to know when they created this object. This is a factor that most researchers throw in the garbage bin when working on an artifact.They don’t work onto understand the ancient civilizations.

Inanna also had most of the time one of her breasts showing (at least) = uncovered, depicting her sexual side. Just like, if anons look closely, most of the time, her hair is depicted long; sometimes it’s braided. Her “nudity” also points to her sexual side. She is NOT CHASTE or PRUDE.

She is sometimes shown wearing an armor which fits with the war that took place = the fight for the throne of “Heaven” = the throne of Atlantis. It’s obvious Inanna wears a multi-morph armor sometimes. Which brings me back the decoration on the boat we see on the bronze Plaque from Hell: on the front end we have a serpent head while on the rear end we have an Antelope head. Is this the Evil Lady on the boat? Is Lamashtu the Evil Lady coming down from the Taurus to settle down in Mesopotamia? Or is this her daughter? Here it gets super complicated. One thing I’m certain of is that it’s related directly to the Evil Lady after the Evil One died. This is why we see both heraldic animals on that boat = this is the combined heraldic symbols of both, united. So whom lead them, was it the Evil Lady herself or was it her daughter, born from her relationship with the Evil One and whom was the legitimate heir of both her parent’s clans? It could also be the granddaughter; this is super complicated because I don’t know what happened when the Evil Lady was staying within the Taurus mountain range where she settled down first there.

And she sometimes holds some type of strange weapon that looks like a staff which has something on its extremity. This staff like weapon fits perfectly with weapon number 5 in the upper register of the bronze Plaque from the Hells. It fits perfectly with the Antelope Clan weapons.

Maybe I’m not that convincing, but I know the Lion is not the symbol of Inanna/Ishtar. Loads of details point to her being the Evil Lady, leader = queen of the Antelope Clan (so far). The misunderstandings of the past were carried on to nowadays and these errors were taken to be true by the Bloodlines. As in (((they))) built (((their))) little cult on sand, not on solid ground. I hope I will find more evidence as I go forward about the Feline/Lion symbol, maybe linking it to the King of king. Let’s see what is going to turn out.

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7183ca  No.14434817

>>14425479

(Please read from the start)

“Doves were also prominent animal symbols associated with Inanna/Ishtar. Doves are shown on cultic objects associated with Inanna as early as the beginning of the third millennium BC. Lead dove figurines were discovered in the temple of Ishtar at Aššur, dating to the thirteenth century BC and a painted fresco from Mari, Syria shows a giant dove emerging from a palm tree in the temple of Ishtar, indicating that the goddess herself was sometimes believed to take the form of a dove.”

>> This symbol is also tricky. It can be one of 2 possibilities:

1 – It can the sub-symbol of the Evil Lady. I’ve already talked about the secondary or sub-symbol of the King of kings which I think it’s the fish men. These are the Spiritual Healers which had the same/similar power as the King, but he was the most powerful one among the Healers. These Healers are like a religious order with their own “cast”/ group, non-military, with the King of kings as their head. We’ve also seen the Spider as the secondary = sub-symbol of Neith = the Queen of queens. Just like with the fishmen, this was like a special religious order made of mostly women = Seers. This group had the power of Oracles, just like Neith whom was the most powerful one and their leader. I don’t think there was a big demographic number of these sub-groups. I see them more like a limited number of people with special, rare abilities.

If this was the case for 2 of the Sebetti rulers = the Royal couple, so why couldn’t it be the case for the other Sebetti rulers? I think they do have a sub-symbol, with special ability. I still don’t know what the ability of the Evil Lady is. It’s possible the dove could be her sub-symbol. Even if it turned out to be this, I have no idea what her ability could be so far. Also, if the dove turns out to be her sub-symbol, then it could explain why she is represented with wings sometimes. She didn’t just steal for her armor the wings of the ThunderBirds, but it could also represent the Dove wings. It’s a possibility that should be investigated further. Let’s see what we will find later on.

2 – Since she stole the wings of the ThunderBirds armor and merged them into her own, later generation misunderstood the provenance of the wings and a mutation happened: given them a gentle touch of being those of a dove.

It can be either one of these 2 possibilities.

“As the planet Venus

Inanna was associated with the planet Venus, which is named after her Roman equivalent Venus. Several hymns praise Inanna in her role as the goddess or personification of the planet Venus. Theology professor Jeffrey Cooley has argued that, in many myths, Inanna's movements may correspond with the movements of the planet Venus in the sky. In Inanna's Descent to the Underworld, unlike any other deity, Inanna is able to descend into the netherworld and return to the heavens. The planet Venus appears to make a similar descent, setting in the West and then rising again in the East. An introductory hymn describes Inanna leaving the heavens and heading for Kur, what could be presumed to be the mountains, replicating the rising and setting of Inanna to the West. In Inanna and Shukaletuda, Shukaletuda is described as scanning the heavens in search of Inanna, possibly searching the eastern and western horizons. In the same myth, while searching for her attacker, Inanna herself makes several movements that correspond with the movements of Venus in the sky.”

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7183ca  No.14434839

>>14434817

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>> I’m SLOW when it comes to understanding this planetary thingy, mostly what anons talk about Saturn and all of that. It’s something that I’m unable to grasp well, so I’m not going to comment much about the planet Venus. I need someone to explain to me these things like I’m a 5 years old.

I will confirm that the Greek Aphrodite, then the Roman Venus are indeed mutated forms of the Evil Lady/Inanna/Lilith; they are the later forms of her and I will talk about them when I reach that place in this thread.

Also, there is something I disagree about Inanna’s movement in the sky, how it’s interpreted. I want to ask anons to go back to page 41 and re-read from the Epic of Gilgamesh the lines:

Line 2: remember the ThunderBirds and the Horned Serpent could control the weather and cause storms just like what we’ve read with the Native American ThunderBirds.

Line 4: control of weather and the ability to fly using the Jet suit armors.

Line 6: The battle started between the ThunderBirds and the Horned Serpents using the Sharur weapon = the Staff weapon which emits lightning.

Line 7: The earth shattered as in some of it sunk like what happened between Tunisia and Sicily and the earth split open = shattered to 2 pieces like how the Red Sea came to be along with the water rushing in, destroying everything on its path (page 1 138).

What is this “stunned shock” mentioned? It sounds like a shock wave and this “shock” turned everything to blackness. We know that volcanoes were activated, mega volcanoes and an ice age was the last stage of the Cataclysm. I’m not an expert on ice ages, if I’m not mistaking, there is no SUN in an ice age = as in the Sunlight is covered for a long time which helps in the freezing of the surface. Again, I’m not an expert, but I know that the Sunlight along with the Sun temperature/intensity affects the temperatures on the planet. What keeps the Sunlight away from reaching the Earth’s surface? = clouds.

I would ask for anons now to take a look at Line 1: that ONE SINGLE BLACK CLOUD showed up early in the morning. Now what makes a SINGLE black cloud? See anons, they didn’t say a “dark” cloud….they specifically said a “single black” cloud. This is a sign that an EXPLOSION happened. A HUGE explosion which was scene from the horizon and it created a shockwave felt from far away. This is how the Cataclysm started = with a HUGE explosion.

Line 8: The wind might be from the storms and the battles. As for the water overwhelming people like an attack…well, this is what I was talking about with the Red Sea and the water rushing in, crushing everything and killing everyone like a monster. Just watch the floods which took place worldwide during the month of July 2021, and imagine it being a thousand’s time worse and more violent.

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7183ca  No.14434858

>>14434839

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Line 10: The “gods” were scared and they ran away by means of FLIGHT. We know that flying machines = airplanes existed back then, as we’ve seen many times already in this thread. And we also know they used to wear the Jet Suits – mostly the ThunderBirds, but we also know that the Horned Serpents and the multi-morphs stole that tech and merged it with their own armors. And this is how they reached the Anu Heaven = that floating/ flying mountain mentioned in the stories of the Native American ThunderBirds.

Whom are the “gods” mentioned here anons? We are talking about cowards here = those whom don’t have a face to face confrontation, those whom flee when they are at a disadvantage, those whom use trickery and dishonesty to win. We are not talking about fierce fearless fighters, not running away when facing danger, loyal to the core to their King. So the cowards here are the coup plotters = they are the ones whom stab others in the back, they cheat in order to win, they do not fight one on one and face to face; they use every trick and cheat to win.

Even till this day, nowadays Bloodlines are cowards. They hide and let others = minions, do the dirty work in (((their))) place; let others do the fighting instead of (((them))) doing it physically. Did you ever see a Bloodline member on the front lines during any military confrontation? Being a coward is on the flip side of being Evil.

When you read this line again and again, it gives you the impression that the Coup Plotters didn’t expect this outcome; as in they didn’t expect something to BLOW UP. This explosion triggered = was the start of the huge Cataclysm. Put the pieces together yourselves anons, I’ve already provided plenty for you and I will provide the rest as I move forward.

Line 11: Inanna/Ishtar/Lilith/The Evil Lady shrieked like a lady giving birth = to highlight a huge amount of pain. This is to say that the Evil Lady screamed her lungs out of pure agony and pain. Do anons understand the importance and significance of this line?

Inanna = the Evil Lady, kills children, eats them and drink their blood. She has sex with animals, with multiple genders, including minors while soaked in blood. She has committed one atrocity after the other, one horror after the other. She used to look at herself so much in the mirror = which means she is arrogant, egocentric and is obsessed with how she looks. We also know she is spiteful, violent and vengeful. This is no sweet and faint lady with a tender heart. She is cruel and hardened by the atrocities she’s committed on daily basis most probably. The only one whom I know surpasses her with the atrocities is the one whom started all of this = the Evil One.

In other words, the Evil Lady is not shaken so easily and she is not affected so easily. What could have happened to rattle her so much and made her feel so much pain that she screamed like that? It’s gotta be something of such an importance to her that it rattled her deep to her core and caused her emotional pain.

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7183ca  No.14434876

>>14434858

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I just said that an HUGE explosion happened first. It was so huge that it was scene from far away = the horizon. In the same time, this single black cloud was a sign of that explosion; like some type of mark. Some of the coup plotters seem to be rather at “safe” distance from that explosion for them to be able to flee. But in the same time, Inanna = the Evil Lady, whom was among this group, knew what was going on WHERE the explosion took place because she had an emotional reaction to it and she displayed a big amount of pain. This is because she realized she LOST something of big importance to her that was on site where the explosion occurred.

We know she was a perverted sex addict and she got into this addiction = being a pedovore, thanks to the Evil One. She had this desperate attachment to the Evil One, as if he was her whole universe. Sometimes, it seems like she is suffering or have the Stockholm Syndrome towards the Evil One. I’m only going to put the introduction from the Wikipedia page about the Stockholm Syndrome, I think it should be enough for anons to understand what I want to get attention to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

“Stockholm syndrome is a condition in which hostages develop a psychological bond with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed between captors and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims. Stockholm syndrome has never been included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or DSM, the standard tool for diagnostic of psychiatric illnesses and disorders in the US, mainly due to the lack of a consistent body of academic research. The syndrome is rare: according to data from the FBI, about 5% of hostage victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.

This term was first used by the media in 1973 when four hostages were taken during a bank robbery in Stockholm, Sweden. The hostages defended their captors after being released and would not agree to testify in court against them. It was noted that in this case, however, the police were perceived to have acted with little care for the hostages' safety, providing an alternative reason for their unwillingness to testify. Stockholm syndrome is paradoxical because the sympathetic sentiments that captives feel towards their captors are the opposite of the fear and disdain which an onlooker might feel towards the captors.

There are four key components that characterize Stockholm syndrome:

• A hostage's development of positive feelings towards the captor

• No previous relationship between hostage and captor

• A refusal by hostages to cooperate with police forces and other government authorities

• A hostage's belief in the humanity of the captor, ceasing to perceive them as a threat, when the victim holds the same values as the aggressor.

• Stockholm syndrome is a "contested illness" due to doubt about the legitimacy of the condition. It has also come to describe the reactions of some abuse victims beyond the context of kidnappings or hostage-taking. Actions and attitudes similar to those suffering from Stockholm syndrome have also been found in victims of sexual abuse, human trafficking, terror, and political and religious oppression.

[…]”

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7183ca  No.14434894

>>14434876

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>> Notice what is said in the last paragraph? = “victims of sexual abuse, human trafficking, terror and political and religious oppression”. It fits perfectly to describe how the Evil One “seduced” and “entangled” the Naïve Sebetti queen and turned her into the Evil Lady.

We know the Evil One died. If I combine all of these together, I say the chances are HIGH that the Evil One died in that explosion which triggered = started the Cataclysm. He was near the blast or probably even was the one whom did something to cause the blast. The Evil Lady knew of his plans and knew where he was, so did the other coup plotters. So when the blast occurred, since she is emotionally depended on him, she shrieked out of pain because she realized he died. She lost something in the blast as well as she lost someone = both are her love and her beloved = the most precious person to her.

We also know from the tale of Atra-Hasis, a version of the epic of Gilgamesh, that there is a banquet at the palace that night and that Atra-Hasis put his family to safety first. The coup plotters, mostly the Evil Couple got in and out easily from the Royal Palace of Atlantis where the King of kings lived, because they were Sebetti rulers and their vassals, or people belonging to their clans. So it was easy for them to get into the Royal Palace.

I’ve still got loads of gaps and black holes in the story so what I’m going to say next is from what I’ve got so far and it will be rectified if I find new evidence as to what exactly happened. So far, it seems there was some type of banquet at the Royal Palace and everyone was there, including all the Sebettis. At some point, something “dangerous & urgent” happened which made the King of kings put his family to safety “first”, which ironically must have included the Evil Lady. Why is that? Because she was afar when the explosion happened, most probably inside the Ark, which she emerged from later on. I’m not sure what that dangerous situation was exactly to have made the King of kings take such action = make his family board the “escape” vessels; but it was life threatening dangerous situation. Whatever it was, the King of kings stayed behind, most probably to deal and contain the dangerous situation.

We should assume the King of kings had his guards and generals with him, so it wasn’t easy to approach him, even by the other Sebettis. At some point, it seems the Evil One didn’t evacuate, but stayed behind, or maybe returned after pretending to go away. Somehow he managed to get close to the King of kings while there was an emergency situation. I don’t know how he managed to get pass the “guards” = warriors of the King of kings. Did a fight breake between the Horned Serpent warriors and those of the King of kings? Or did the Evil One sneak in undetected behind the back of the King and stabbed him from behind?

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673311  No.14444133

>>14434894

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What I know is that the King of kings was trying to contain something dangerous and while he was trying to do so, he got killed by the Evil One. There is information in the cartoon called The Mysterious Cities of Gold (which were 7 by the way ^_~ = 7 Sebetti rulers capitals) page 938 and on:

Point 6 = a great war occurred: we are talking about this great war right now and how it started.

Point 7 = weapons of the Sun can be explained by the individual weapons carried out by the Sebetti rulers and their warriors. And in the same time, it can be explained by BIG type of weapons, something like the “Rod of God” or a nuclear bomb….something BIG. The “explosion” might have something to do with a BIG weapon. Or it can be a nuclear reactor of some type.

Point 8 = the Universal Libraries might be what is “supposedly” under the Sphinx = hall of records from Atlantis.

Point 9 = powerful artifacts and fusion reactors – it’s a repeat of what I said in point 7 just above.

Point 10 = not just anyone can “handle” THAT technology = seems like some type of reactor or some type of special device that only the King of kings could “handle”. So it makes me wonder if this is what blew up: if this is what caused the emergency and dangerous situation and why the King of kings stayed behind to contain that special device?

Point 11 = Esteban was born with the Light. Same Light as the one Christ put in the young man (page 1 047). No Esteban is not fluorescent; he doesn’t glow while he is walking. Just trying to be silly here anons.

Point 14 = goes back to point 10 = only the high-priest = the leader of the fishmen = the King of kings can control that device or whatever it was that exploded.

Points 22 and 23 tells us that some type of nuclear catastrophe occurred, some type of nuclear like meltdown which triggered a Cataclysmic sequence of events. It fits perfectly with what we have discovered so far, mostly the geological discoveries.

Point 24 = Esteban’s father turned out to be the King-Priest in the cartoon and he sacrificed himself to “contain” the blast. Amazing how this is fitting so well with what I have in this thread! This cartoon is reflecting a lot of what had happened back then.

Which brings me back to what I was saying before I mentioned the cartoon. The King of kings was trying to contain a very dangerous situation and while he was doing so, the Evil One seems to have grabbed the opportunity to kill = murder the King of kings. Sometime afterwards, he and some of his followers consumed the flesh of the murdered King. I don’t know if some of his followers took some part of the King’s flesh and flew away to where Inanna was, to give her some of it, along with her followers to consume as well. These guys are crazy, twisted and a total nut job, so yes, we can expect something gruesome of the sort coming from them.

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673311  No.14444158

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>>14444133

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Regardless, since the King of kings was murdered and since he was the ONLY one whom could have contained that “danger” = whatever it was, BLEW as if it was a huge nuclear bomb or reactor blowing. And by blowing, it killed everyone in the vicinity, probably including the Evil One. If the Evil One didn’t kill the King of kings, I believe the King would have contained the situation and the explosion wouldn’t have happened. Since He had extremely strong Spiritual power, He could have contained it, if He wasn’t killed while trying to.

I want to go even further by pointing out that the chances are high the Evil One and the coup plotters might be the ones whom tampered with that “device” thinking if they can control it, then they will defeat the King of kings and the Evil One will be crowned as the ultimate king instead. Their plans went sour because only the King of kings could control that device and no one else. I would like to also point out that I have a few surviving members of 2 Sebetti clan warriors = the Ram and the Wolf Clans. So I’ve been wondering for some time what might have happened that kinda “wiped” these 2 clans out, almost to extinction. Could the explosion from this special device be the reason why these 2 clans went almost extinct? It’s a possibility.

We also don’t know how the Evil One died exactly. What was the “direct cause of death”. It’s a mystery. Was it the blast that killed him? Or was he battling the Light warriors and was killed by them just a bit before the blast occurred? I don’t know. Until now, I have only ONE clue coming from the iconography of Archangel Michael, pinning Satan to the ground, while he is lifting his sword, ready to decapitate him = killing him. But if this was the case, then this would have put Archangel Michael in the blast zone as well, near the device which exploded. Strangely, Archangel Michael survived. So I don’t know what really took place. Maybe the Archangel killed the Evil One, and had time to fly away (since he is a ThunderBirds with Jet suit armor) with the rest of the Light warriors before the blast occurred – it was said in the Epic of Gilgamehs that the Anzu Bird flew away with its young from the “Tree”. Loads to think about here. There are many possibilities.

Also when taking a look into Raziel image in the entertainment world, we also saw in the Fan page/website of the movie “Mortal Instruments: City of Bones”, that only an Archangel can kill another Archangel. So can we say that only a Sebetti can kill another Sebetti? I say the chances are very high this to be the case. But then….can an Archangel = warrior of the Light kill a Sebetti? I don’t know. This is so complex and there are so many things that we, as humans, ignore and cannot understand. This is so huge, it’s not going to be easy to untangle.

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623571  No.14452823

>>14444158

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Back to the Epic of Gilgamesh – page 41:

Line 12: Inanna/Ishtar/Lilith/the Evil Lady lamented and cried about the “old days” she had lived = the old life style she lived in Atlantis because now she realized it’s all gone since it’s blown away.

Then listen to this beauty: “I said evil things in the Assembly of the Gods, ordering a catastrophe to destroy my people who fill the sea like fish.” The Assembly of the gods is the high council of Atlantis which I pointed as being similar to what we see in the Black Panther movie – page 1 025. And I’ve also explained loads of things about this Assembly of the Gods when I was talking about Raziel – starting page 1 132. Here, she is admitting her crime of “ordering” to kill everyone and/or plotting to kill everyone. She is admitting that this “catastrophe” = the Cataclysm was “made on purpose” – it was not by coincidence or accident, a mistake – it was part of the plan of the coup plotters to cause loads of damage and harm to everyone. I just talked about it a few paragraphs above.

She is also admitting of saying “evil things” meaning she was spiteful, filled with hate and she spat that hate in the face of the other 5 Sebetti rulers (except of her beloved Evil Lover) whom were in the Assembly. She spat it mostly in the face of the King of kings which she and the Evil One hated to the core. And she also spat it on her mother = the Queen of queens and most probably on the Crown Prince. There was a verbal spat filled with poison and hate in the last meeting of the Assembly of the gods = the High council of Atlantis.

The Evil Lady attended it since she was a Sebetti ruler and most probably the daughter of the Royal Couple. And there, filled with hate and rage towards her parents = her family, she spat out on them her true feelings. I think she loathed mostly her Father and her brother, somewhat her mother. She wanted power and she wanted her relationship with the Evil One to be accepted.

It’s unclear if the other Sebetti rulers knew at this point about her forbidden relationship with the Evil One. One thing for sure, the Evil Couple wanted to be the ultimate ruling duo instead of the Royal Couple. This thirst for power and this envy, mixed with the desire to take the throne filled her with hate towards them; alongside her knowledge that her love relationship with the Evil One won’t be accepted by her parents.

And this is why Ishtar = the Evil Lady said those words written in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Only her aids and vassals heard those words when she said them as the Cataclysm started. So these words were reported to us by (((them))). When she also mentioned “her people”, this has a double meaning:

1 – The people = normal citizens of Atlantis, including her clan.

2 – The followers of the cult = the traitors from all the clans along with hers whom joined the Evil Couple in the coup.

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623571  No.14452827

>>14452823

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I think the true meaning is a mixture of both because the Cataclysm surprised everyone, including the coup plotters. They didn’t expect that blast to occur and the disaster to be of this magnitude. The coup plotters also didn’t anticipate the death of the Evil One. A lot of (((their))) minions, servants, warriors and clan members perished as well in the blast just like the rest of the people. To put it simply: things got out of hand and the coup went down the drains and everything and everyone was literally blown apart.

So you see anons, when talking about Inanna’s/Ishtar’s FLIGHT….there is a lot to take into consideration, including her ability to fly via the jet suit military technology stolen from the other clans; as well as taking into consideration the events that took place on that specific day when the Cataclysm occurred. It’s not as easy as they make it sound in the Wikipedia paragraph.

“Because the movements of Venus appear to be discontinuous (it disappears due to its proximity to the sun, for many days at a time, and then reappears on the other horizon), some cultures did not recognize Venus as a single entity; instead, they assumed it to be two separate stars on each horizon: the morning and evening star. Nonetheless, a cylinder seal from the Jemdet Nasr period indicates that the ancient Sumerians already knew that the morning and evening stars were the same celestial object. The discontinuous movements of Venus relate to both mythology as well as Inanna's dual nature.

Inanna in her aspect as Anunītu was associated with the eastern fish of the last of the zodiacal constellations, Pisces. Her consort Dumuzi was associated with the contiguous first constellation, Aries.”

>> The last 2 sentences are rather interesting. Are these the special abilities of the Evil Lady = water and the Evil One = fire? When taking a look at Attar (page 1 232) we found out he was associated to the planet Venus, had Antelope armor and he was connected to water.

This is very tricky because we know Inanna’s armor was a multi-morph one: after stealing the military tech from other clans (mostly the ThunderBirds) she merged that tech with her own Antelope armor. And we know already from the Native American ThunderBirds that these warriors had the power to summon and control storms. And where there is a storm, there is water = rain, thunder, wind, hail and lightning. So I don’t know if the water is something related to her special ability as the Sebetti queen of the Antelope clan; or if this is connected to the military technology the coup plotters stole and merged with their own armors. I’m 50/50 so far about this, it’s better to take note and wait for further information. And it could be realted to the Flood waters she emerged from like the rest of the survivors. It’s not easy to see through.

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623571  No.14452840

>>14452827

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But we also do have another indication that the Evil One used fire. We’ve seen it many times already in this thread. But I’m uneasy about the association of the Evil One with Aries = Ram. I’m unable to see clear or move about this issue because I barely have any information about the Ram warriors. All I have from Ancient Egypt was Khnum (starting page 1 012). He is clearly a protector of children and pregnant ladies, so he’s not a pedovore. But strangely, he is also thought (in a later period) to be married to Satis which was an Antelope warrior. Strangely, he also is represented sometimes holding a jar and water flowing out of it – similar jar seen on the imprint of the cylinder seal page 967. The Ram, for unknown reason was associated to Osiris in Ancient Egypt. The Ram warriors also had a statue next to the ThunderBird one in Ometepe, Nicaragua, making it sounds as if they were “together”.

It’s confusing, isn’t it? Well, this might be due to 3 things:

1 – The coup plotters stole tech and attributes from the Ram clan and used them.

2 – There were traitors in the Ram clan and Khnum might be one of these traitors, but I really don’t see him in that light. The Ram was associated to Osiris and Khnum protected children from demons.

3 – Because of the theft just mentioned in point 1, the later generation misunderstood and got confused on the attributes of the Ram clan; which in turn is leading me as well to misunderstand it.

It’s better to take note of this and gather more information to see what really happened with the Ram Clan warriors. Them along with the Wolf Clan warriors are the hardest to find information about among the warriors. Not much of them to study and retrieve information from. I might revise everything depending on future findings, it’s still a work in progress.

“Character

The Sumerians worshipped Inanna as the goddess of both warfare and love. Unlike other gods, whose roles were static and whose domains were limited, the stories of Inanna describe her as moving from conquest to conquest. She was portrayed as young and impetuous, constantly striving for more power than she had been allotted.”

>> I’ve already explained this many times anons. She is the goddess of love because she was a perverted sex addict. A goddess of war because she was the partner of the Evil One and one of the Main coup plotters to overthrow the King of kings and take the throne. She fought the war for the throne of Heaven. So she was thirsty for power and she couldn’t be satisfied with anything less than having everything, ruling over everyone and everything and being the ultimate ruler.

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623571  No.14452848

>>14452840

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We have similar behavior from current day Bloodlines: no matter how much wealth and power they accumulated, it wasn’t enough for (((them))). (((They))) always wanted more and more, it’s never enough for (((them))). The Evil Couple was like that. Unless they conquered everything and everyone, they were never satisfied; they always wanted more and more which explains the many conquests and how they kept on trying to take the kingdoms of the other Sebetti rulers. And this also explain the mentality = ideology as to why they stole the military technology from other Clans and merged them to their armors = to get more powerful weapons.

Saying she is young is also a correct description of her. I’ve said many times already she was innocent and naïve and she was tricked and seduced by the Evil One whom turned her into the Evil Lady through sex = he made her addicted to sex and most probably Adrenochrome. Usually, youngsters are naïve because they are still “fresh” out of childhood and teen years and they don’t have much experience in the adult world. This was the case with Inanna = the Evil Lady.

Her being impetuous as in impulsive is also connected to her youth and her spoiled, selfish behavior = she was a Sebetti queen whom was used to be obeyed and served by many after all. She had a rotten personality to make it short. And if I add to the mix she was a perverted sex addict which wouldn’t be so easily satisfied sexually; suffering from Stockholm syndrome towards the Evil One, as well as been a heavily addict to Adrenochrome ….oh Lord! When she used to have withdrawals from her addiction, she must have been one totally scary lunatic. If you want to know what I mean, just take a look at Killary, you will understand what type of behavior I’m talking about. In shorts, we’ve got a pampered, nasty, spoiled brat with super human incredible powers whom is addicted to drugs.

“Although she was worshipped as the goddess of love, Inanna was not the goddess of marriage, nor was she ever viewed as a mother goddess. Andrew R. George goes as far as stating that "According to all mythology, Ištar was not(…) temperamentally disposed" towards such functions.”

>> This is a point that I’ve been trying to explain to anons and this is how we can see the difference between the Queen of queens and the Evil Lady. The Queen of queens is a mother figure, whom cares about her subjects as a ruler and whom cares about her child as a mother. She loved and cared her husband and she mourned him when he died. She projects a very motherly figure and the image of a loving, caring chaste wife.

As for the Evil Lady, she’s on the opposite side of this spectrum. She is selfish, sacrifices everyone for her pleasure and to save herself. She only cares of herself and her pleasures = including her attachment to the Evil One. She is also a very sexualized person. When she is with men, it’s for sex and carnal pleasure, not to start a family and have a life partner. When she is with children, it’s because she is a pedovore, not to be tender and loving and rearing, protecting them. I can also add she is irresponsible and acts on whims a lot instead of following reason and logic, in opposition to Neith.

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623571  No.14452863

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>>14452848

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There is a huge difference here in both images projected of both female deities. Neith is the classical, loving image of females = ladies and it’s linked to motherhood as well. While with the Evil Lady, we have the “unstable”, out of control, totally loose, spoiled, rebellious selfish image of females, whom cares more about her looks, her needs, herself and her desires than her duties, responsiblities and others.

The New image of a female = ladies is projected by the Evil Lady as being self-centered and it’s all about her. It’s about her needs, her fashion, her make-up, her hair salon or nail polish etc….but….in the meantime, whom is taking care of the children? Whom is teaching them right from wrong? Whom is protecting them from danger?

The Bloodlines have targeted the woman a lot because she is THE line of DEFENSE against (((them))). If you break the woman, you break the family because women are the bond = the bridge between the MAN = Husband and the children. She is what connects them all together biologically, emotionally and morally. What better way to break the family apart, and take down the protection lines of the children by breaking the woman, whom in turn will fall apart from the man and the children alike = leaving the children at (((their))) mercy.

What greater way to achieve that by brainwashing the women and men alike about many issues concerning their own selves and their relationship with one another! Like what? Well, like making women addictive to shopping, some spend every dime they have on useless items instead of providing for their kids. Like making the women a career maniac, focusing only on her job and make her forget that is the one whom gives life = birth. Like pushing forward the idea that breast feeding is a barbaric, archaic thing to do and the modern, trendy thing to do is to give God knows that in those milk boxes they feed the newborns with. Like how they planted the idea into the head of the young generations that the young ladies can have “any dick” (sorry for the term, but it’s the best to describe the situation) they wanted and as many “dicks” as they wanted simply because they can so and depending on her mood. This is not giving women liberty and freedom. This is turning her into a volatile, emotionally unstable being, whom cannot even recognize her fated partner even if she meets him. (((They))) are turning her into Lilith/Inanna/The Evil Lady which couldn’t be satisfied with one man and couldn’t build a happy home, family with her fated partner. (((They))) are turning young ladies into the image of the Evil Lady.

They are peeling away slowly the image of a mother and a lady, turning her into what the Evil Lady was. And (((they))) have unfortunately succeeded up to a big degree in the West. While in the East (((they))) crushed the women brutally and (((they))) “yanked” her in the opposite direction than that of the West. (((They))) also poisoned the mind of the man as well, in different shapes and forms depending on where they live: the East or the West. It’s all part of one huge programming and a plan to weaken us, take our children to eat them and transform us into (((their))) perverted ways.

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623571  No.14452872

>>14452863

(Please read from the start)

(((They))) are turning society into what (((they))) think it should be, into (((their))) ideology. And this ideology is based on the cult established by the Evil Couple, based on the personality and behavior of the Evil Couple. This is very important for anons to understand and realize. If you caught on this, if you understand it, then you will also be able to detect the “poison” (((they))) are currently spreading into society.

For researchers, they can also use this to detect which deity we are dealing with depending on her personality profile. Look at what I did with Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal and I’m now doing with Inanna/Lilith/Evil Lady/Ishtar. I understood that younger generations have transformed each aspect of the same person into a different deity. They misunderstood that it’s the same person but seen from different angles, aspects, facets (remember I gave you the example of Melania Trump). The younger generation thought that each one of the aspects was a separate individual, a separate goddess. Researchers can regroup, reconstruct and repair the images of deities relying on their profile. When looking into Isis, I said she is the Queen of queens and this is not the Evil Lady, based on her profile, personality and her characteristics. The later generation of the Bloodlines, during Hellenistic and Roman times, misunderstood whom Isis was and thought it was (((their))) Demonic Mother = the Evil Lady; this is why (((they))) were so attached to the cult of Isis during those eras. I’m doing right now the same with the Evil Lady = finding her aspects and putting them together to get her profile, understand her personality and of course find out as much information about her as I can. Once you grasp each deity profile and characteristics, you can easily know their cult and presence worldwide, no matter where it is on the planet.

The researcher gotta be aware of the mutation which occurred in later generations and they gotta take it into account when evaluating the personality and characteristics of a deity. The oldest the information and artifacts, the closer you are to the point of origin = less mutation.

“In Inanna's Descent to the Underworld, Inanna treats her lover Dumuzid in a very capricious manner. This aspect of Inanna's personality is emphasized in the later standard Akkadian version of the Epic of Gilgamesh in which Gilgamesh points out Ishtar's infamous ill-treatment of her lovers. However, according to assyriologist Dina Katz, the portrayal of Inanna's relationship with Dumuzi in the Descent myth is unusual.”

>> I just explained all there need to be about Inanna’s/Evil Lady’s personality so it shouldn’t surprise anons that she abandoned = dumped the Evil One and all the other men. She might have been scared from the battle/fight which started between the Light and the Dark warriors, and she simply ran away. We know she is also attached to the Evil One, but it seems she was not brave enough to go to the rescue of her beloved = her selfishness and self-preservation instinct got in the way.

She might have loved to conquer and go to war, as in giving the orders, but she was probably scared in the face of the great Cataclysm which took everyone by surprise. She coward when faced with a great danger, at least this is how it’s looking for me.

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2a1498  No.14458249

You really went far with those theories lol. Did you consider a possibility that certain behaviors are archetypal and that they don't necessarily need to be hereditary in order to manifest? Those today would recognize themselves in those of the past, perpetuating their symbology.

Btw, I wonder if K. aka the fungus messiah still posts here.

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cbea99  No.14462266

>>14452872

(Please read from the start)

“Inanna was also worshipped as one of the Sumerian war deities. One of her hymns declares: "She stirs confusion and chaos against those who are disobedient to her, speeding carnage and inciting the devastating flood, clothed in terrifying radiance. It is her game to speed conflict and battle, untiring, strapping on her sandals." Battle itself was occasionally referred to as the "Dance of Inanna". Epithets related to lions in particular were meant to highlight this aspect of her character. As a war goddess she was sometimes referred to with the name Irnina ("victory"), though this epithet could be applied to other deities as well, in addition to functioning as a distinct goddess linked to Ningishzida rather than Ishtar.”

>> All of these: Ishtar etc. could all be different aspects of her the Evil Lady. We also know here that the Evil Lady used to be like Eris (Greek Mythology) = causing strife. “It is her game to speed conflict and battle” = how do you create conflict and fan the flames? = creating strife to divide people and make them fight each other. Then when they are both exhausted, you come in and take it all. Isn’t this the method used by the Bloodlines to destroy Nations worldwide and to destroy society? It’s the same method used by Inanna.

I already explain many times about the Lion, so I’m not going there again. Here, they are clearly saying that Inanna was the one (or among those) whom ignited/started/ triggered the Cataclysm. I think it was part of the coup plotters plan to cause some sort of big event….but, it’s obvious they got surprised by the scale of Cataclysm = they weren’t expecting it to blow up this much. Things didn’t go as they wanted them to and everything crumbled.

I got a huge smile on my face when I read that she was “clothed in terrifying radiance”. She is wearing her Sebetti armor, a multi-morph since she merged other armor tech with her original one. She also has blasters on her armor from the looks of it.

Also, when we read about all the multi-morph warriors, we can clearly see they all share other common points = massacres & bringing plagues on mankind. I think if there are massacres and the bodies are not buried quickly, then….it explains the plagues and the rest of such diseases.

Her epithet as Victory: This is the origin behind current days Bloodline liking of Nike/Victory. (((They))) think it refers to her = the Evil Lady. These idiots thought this is only hers and as long as Victory is on (((their))) side, (((they))) do whatever (((they))) want and (((they))) will always come on top of things = be victorious, win. Funny how things are, because in the same sentence, they say in Wikipedia that MANY deities had that epithet. I think this is because there were many battles fought back then, some were won by the warriors of the Light while others were won by the warriors of Darkness, while some must have been neck-to-neck. So we cannot say Victory is exclusively hers = the Evil Lady epithet.

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cbea99  No.14462280

>>14462266

(Please read from the start)

Put everything together anons. You will understand why Killary’s name is Diana = a mutated form, referring to the Evil Lady. Why Chelsea’s name is Victoria. You will understand the 16 years plan and why they were planning to wipe out humanity as mentioned on the Georgia Stones = everything current day Bloodlines have done and are doing was a REDO of the past or should I say an imitation of the past – copying it. (((They))) are trying to open that portal, bring back the Spirit of the Evil Lady and finally make her sit on the Divine Throne. This is the side of the Payseur branch of the Merovingian Bloodline = the descendants of the French royals = the Bourbon dynasty.

When I go to the other branch, the British branch of the Merovingian Bloodline, there are loads of similarities but the situation is not identical, there are a tiny bit of differences. The name of the mother is the same = Diana, but she had a son, not a daughter and that son was named on purpose William. I know Diana was a direct descendant of William the Conqueror. Most probably a pure blood Merovingian descendant herself, just like it’s the case with Killary. I think the Windsors are planning to bring back the Evil One, unlike the Payseurs whom are trying to bring back the Evil Lady.

What’s the meaning of the name William? = https://www.verywellfamily.com/william-name-meaning-origin-popularity-5180080

“What Does William Mean?

The name William is a timeless classic with English roots that date back almost a thousand years, yet is still popular today. It means "resolute protector" or "strong-willed warrior" and comes from Wilhelm, of Old German origin. After the name was introduced to England by William the Conqueror at the time of the Conquest, it gained status as a fashionable moniker.

[…]”

>> If (((they))) named Chelsea after the Evil Lady epithet, does it mean (((they))) named William after the epithet of the Evil One? I think the chances are high the situation is like that. Then, this means among the many epithets describing the Evil One is “strong-willed warrior”, it fits the Evil One good, but he was not the only one with a strong will.

We know the Light warriors also had strong will, just re-read the many samples I’ve put about the clan warriors. This also includes Neith = she was a strong willed Lady and her will power was so strong, she could change FATE itself with it. I believe she had the strongest will power among all the Sebetti rulers; she was the most powerful one in this point.

The meaning of “protector” is also a correct description of the Evil One because before he turned Evil, he was one of the protectors of the throne of the King of kings. He was most probably one of the other Sebetti rulers whom protected the ultimate King.

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cbea99  No.14462290

>>14462280

(Please read from the start)

My teacher and mentor thinks the Evil One is not a Sebetti king but actually a son of a Sebetti king. He bases this from how Lucifer is called a “Prince” not a king. I don’t agree with my teacher, I think he was a Sebetti ruler = a minor king, and because he is a minor one, not the ultimate, top King, that’s why we can say he is a prince = coming second to the King of kings. Either way, both of us old men agree that we are very close to the truth = hovering around it. Just some details and adjustments needed here and there = “un peu de calibrage” is needed.

So you see dear readers, it all fits together, the anciet and current days. One Merovingian branch is trying to bring back the spirit of the Evil One, while the other branch is trying to bring back the spirit of the Evil Lady. And I think both of them are terribly koo koo in the head; thinking “breeding” then naming the Child of the prophecy according to one of the Evil duo, will make (((their))) fantasy dreams of bringing back the founding Evil Couple back all true.

“A late hymn contains the phrase "she [Ishtar] is Enlil, she is Ninil" which might be a reference to occasionally "dimorphic" character of Ishtar, in addition to serving as an exaltation. A hymn to Nanaya alludes to a male aspect of Ishtar from Babylon alongside a variety of more standard descriptions. Gary Beckman states that "ambiguous gender identification" was a characteristic of a category he refers to as "Ishtar type" goddesses (ex. Shaushka, Pinikir or Ninsianna).”

>> I’ve already explain how is this possible: I think the word Ishtar (yes a word and not a name) was used to point out to the Antelope warriors in Mesopotamia and Syria = regardless of their gender as warriors. But later on, with new generation, this mutated and transformed into the name of the leader of such warriors = the Evil Lady. This is how Ishtar with dual genders became associated to Inanna. I’ve never been that interested in Ishtar as a deity because she comes on a later date as in she is a mutation of later generations.

As for the hymn containing the notion that Ishtar is Enlil = Ninil. First of all, they said it themselves this is later in date. Second, this could point to Ishtar/Inanna/the Evil Lady being the “same” as Enlil = a ruler = royalty = a king/queen. It actually fits, despite the late date, with the Evil Lady being a Sebetti queen, a minor queen, but a queen nonetheless. As well as she was a daughter of the Sun, just like Enlil was a son of the Sun.

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6e9d1c  No.14462641

>>14462290

(Please read from the start)

“Family

Inanna's twin brother was Utu, the god of the sun and justice (who was later known as Shamash in East Semitic languages). In Sumerian texts, Inanna and Utu are shown as extremely close; some modern authors perceive it as bordering on incestuous. In the myth of her descent into the underworld, Inanna addresses Ereshkigal, the queen of the underworld, as her "older sister",but the two goddesses almost never appear together in Sumerian literature and weren't placed in the same category in god lists. In Uruk, Inanna was usually regarded as the daughter of the sky god An, but, in the Isin tradition, she is usually described as the daughter of the moon god Nanna (who was later known as Sin). In literary texts, she is sometimes described as the daughter of Enlil or the daughter of Enki. In some divine genealogies, Inanna/Ishtar is the sister of Ishkur (Hadad), the god of storms.”

>> When it comes to family ties between the Mesopotamian deities, it gets really complicated and very hard to see through. If I go down this tunnel, to try to entangle this complicated knot, I will not reach my goals. For now, I’m going to skip this and if I have time later on or need be, I will come back to it. I want anons to remember that not all deities in Mesopotamia are good or are bad, it depends to which clan they belonged to = whom they were following. Also, I would like to remind anons that Mesopotamia was the second geographic location where the Evil Lady settled in after the flood water receded. So be careful while working on this, it’s extremely complicated.

“Dumuzid (later known as Tammuz), the god of shepherds, is usually described as Inanna's husband, but Inanna's loyalty to him is questionable; in the myth of her descent into the Underworld, she abandons Dumuzid and permits the galla demons to drag him down into the underworld as her replacement, but in a different myth, The Return of Dumuzid Inanna paradoxically mourns over Dumuzid's death and ultimately decrees that he will be allowed to return to Heaven to be with her for one half of the year. Dina Katz notes that the portrayal of their relationship in Inanna's Descent is unusual; it doesn't resemble the portrayal of their relationship in other myths about Dumuzi's death, which almost never pin the blame for it on Inanna, but rather on demons or even human bandits. In Kish, the tutelary deity of the city, Zababa (a war god), was viewed as the consort of a local hyposthasis of Ishtar.”

>> I’ve already explained Inanna’s/The Evil Lady’s selfishness, so no surprise here. And I also suggested it’s possible, she fled since she was a coward, when the Cataclysm was triggered/started. This is another possible explanation why Dumuzi “died” and she refused to go “to death” herself = replace him. It’s true that she behaves as if she is not to blame or not responsible for his death. She behaves as if she has a clear conscious towards his death, feeling no guilt or responsibility. This is hard to explain because anons we don’t know for sure and exactly what took place back then. All I have talked about and explained are the big thick lines, not the details. I can put some events in a sequence, at least try to, but that’s the maximum I can push with what I’ve got. There are a lot of blind areas and a huge lack of information to get an accurate image as to what exactly happened when the King of king was murdered and the Cataclysm was triggered. I have the big picture, and that’s all.

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6e9d1c  No.14462659

>>14462641

(Please read from the start)

“Inanna is not usually described as having any offspring, but, in the myth of Lugalbanda and in a single building inscription from the Third Dynasty of Ur (c. 2112 – c. 2004 BC), the warrior god Shara is described as her son. She was also sometimes considered the mother of Lulal, who is described in other texts as the son of Ninsun. Wilfred G. Lambert described the relation between Inanna and Lulal as "close but unspecified" in the context of Inanna's Descent. There is also similarly scarce evidence for Nanaya being regarded as her daughter (a song, a votive formula and an oath), but it's possible all of these instances merely refer to an epithet indicating closeness between the deities and aren't a statement about parentage.”

>> The names could be epithets, descriptive, titles, honorifics etc. When it comes to the Sebetti rulers, we don’t know their names, it was taboo = forbidden to say their names out loud. As for Inanna having children = giving birth to her children, well, we know she had at least one with the Evil One or we wouldn’t have the damned Merovingian Bloodline nowadays = (((they))) wouldn’t have even existed if there wasn’t at least one heir. And since she messed around with plenty of men, she could have also gotten pregnant from them. How many children from “other” men did she have? I don’t know.

I would like to ask anons to go back to page 790 and take a look at the lady in a red dress sitting on a throne whom is supposed to be Nergal’s wife. This lady is royalty for sure as attested by the presence of the 2 Griffins on each side of her throne. The vertical snake next to her now makes sense as this is most possibly electricity depicted in the form of serpents = to say she uses that staff like weapon. The trophy she is holding means she was victorious over her enemies in battle. The scorpion above her points that she belong or is a warrior. The bird crown thingy she got on her head might be an eagle, but it also might be the dove of Inanna. Work carefully on this one, because this doesn’t mean she is a ThunderBird; the dove (if it’s one) can be her sub-heraldic symbol.

She is wearing red from head to toe = color of the Evil duo. Right under her feet there are 2 fishes facing each other. These could be a symbolic representation of:

1 – Astrological sign Pisces.

2 – Could be pointing to the possible water ability of Inanna – mentioned a few pages ago – it’s possible, not certain because I still don’t know what her special ability is.

3 – Could be pointing at the spiritual healer = the fishmen.

We have enough evidence all converging to one and same thing: this seated lady is royalty and she belongs to the Evil Clan. But whom was she exactly? Was she the Evil Lady whom took Nergal as one of her lovers? Was she a daughter or a granddaughter of the Evil Lady? Was she one of her followers or vassals? I don’t know, but I can eliminate this lady being a follower or from the Evil Lady Clan because this seated lady in red is royalty = either a Sebetti or a direct descendant of a Sebetti ruler = the Evil Lady descendants. I’m split 50/50 between this being the Evil Lady whom took Nergal as one of her lovers after the death of the Evil One and the second possibility is this is her direct offspring whom took Nergal as a husband. Either way, it goes back to the Evil Lady.

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bd019d  No.14463987

File: 3fc11c2853e3c9e⋯.jpg (36.2 KB, 121x382, 121:382, Cropped_image_of_Ninshubur….jpg)

>>14462659

(Please read from the start)

It is incredibly hard to figure out how many children were born from the Evil Couple and then after the Evil One died, how many children did the Evil Lady had with other men; mostly with the idea, she might have lived for an extremely long time = thousands of years. And this mixes even more the already complicated ties within the Mesopotamian Pantheon; trying to figure which deities belongs to the Light or to Darkness. This is extra complicated.

“Sukkal

Inanna's sukkal is the goddess Ninshubur, whose relationship with Inanna is one of mutual devotion. In some texts, Ninshubur was listed right after Dumuzi as a member of Inanna's circle, even before some of her relatives; in one text the phrase "Ninshubur, beloved vizier" appears. In another text Ninshubur is listed even before Nanaya, originally a hyposthasis of Inanna herself, in a list of deities from her entourage. In a ritual text known from Hittite archives Ishtar's sukkal is invoked alongside her family members (Sin, Ningal and Shamash).

Other members of Inanna's entourage frequently listed in god lists were the goddesses Nanaya (usually placed right behind Dumuzi and Ninshubur), Kanisurra, Gazbaba and Bizila, all of them also associated with each other in various configurations independently from this context.”

>> Anons shouldn’t be surprised to hear that Her Royal Highness the Sebetti Ruler = the Evil Lady had a “right hand” women, or a “personal” servant, aid, assistant, secretary or whatever that function may be. This Ninshubur reminds me of Raziel (starting page 1 132) and how he was someone with a similar role as Ninshubur, as in an assistant, secretary or scribe, whom used to be present when the High Council of Atlantis was having a meeting and he used to gather information for the Evil Couple. I wonder whom Raziel served though. And if you read closely, it seem Inanna/The Evil Lady had many Sukkals but Ninshubur was the top one = head of the Sukkals. I wonder what was the rank of Raziel. This also reminds of Huma Abedine and her “relationship” with Killary: is Huma Killary’s Sukkal?

I think it’s time to take a little detour and check out quickly Ninshubur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninshubur

“Ninshubur (also known as Ninshubar, Nincubura or Ninšubur) was the sukkal (vizier) or second-in-command of the goddess Inanna in Sumerian mythology. Her name means "Queen of Subartu" in Sumerian. Frans Wiggerman suggests that it was often understood as "Queen of Servants". Ninshubur served not only as Inanna's vizier but also as a messenger to the assembly of the gods, similar to Greek Hermes or Iris.”

>> This puts a smile on my face; it fits perfectly with the image Raziel is projecting. Seems like all the Sebetti rulers had many Sukkals and there was one = a top Sukkal among them. They had access to the “Assembly of the Gods” = Council room where the Throne of the King of kings was = meeting place to discuss State Affairs.

“In myths Ninshubur accompanied Inanna during many of her most famous exploits. She helped Inanna fight Enki's servants from the Apsu after Inanna's theft of the sacred me. In another myth, when Inanna became trapped in the Underworld, it was Ninshubur who pleaded with Enki for her mistress's release.”

>> Ninshubur surely was faithful, dedicated and devoted towards her queen.

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bd019d  No.14464025

>>14463987

(Please read from the start)

“Gender

Ninshubur is female in Sumerian literature at least until the Ur III period, and continues to be regarded as such in many later sources. However, due to equation with other messenger gods in older scholarly sources, Ninshubur is usually incorrectly referred to as a male god; more recent sources have recognized this portrayal as erroneous. According to Diane Wolkstein gender of a sukkal matches the gender of the deity they serve. Thus, Enki's sukkal Isimud is male, but Ninshubur is female. In her primary aspect as the sukkal to Inanna, Ninshubur was female, but, when she served as the sukkal to An, he was male. However, some researchers do not differentiate between the gender of Ninshubur in different functions, but only between Ninshubur (female) and gods she was conflated with (male). Additionally, there is some evidence for female Ninshubur being regarded as either sukkal or wife of Nergal in different texts, and there are a few examples of sukkal not matching the gender of the corresponding deity, for example Namtar was usually regarded as Ereshkigal's sukkal.”

>> Interesting theory of having the top Sukkal from the same gender as the Sebetti ruler they served. But it’s not proven, it’s just a theory and there are examples of this not being the case. Nergal is also mentioned in this paragraph, which brings me back to that relief of his on page 790. Is the Lady in red next to Nergal in that artifact Ninshubur? I don’t know. I guess it can be if Ninshubur is considered as a royal. But I doubt that. I think we only have 7 royals = the Sebetti rulers, the rest are just their vassals. Also here, Wikipedia and the supposed “experts” of the Main Stream History are admitting flat out that a mutation occurred switching the genders of Ninshubur.

“In Akkadian mythology, in her role as a messenger of Anu Ninshubur was syncretized with the male deity Ilabrat. She was also conflated with another male messenger deity, Papsukkal, though this process only started in the Kassite period and wasn't completed until Seleucid times.

The conflation of Ninshubur, Ilabrat and Papsukkal was a complex process and at times a source of confusion for ancient scribes. One Old Babylonian hymn ( CBS 15119+) tried to reconcile conflicting accounts by describing Ninshubur as dressed in both feminine and masculine robes.

At different points in his life Rim-Sîn I built separate temples for both female and male Ninshubur.”

>> This is a very good proof for anons how mutation and misinterpretation occurred even back then. See what I mean each time I say mutation?

“Cult

[…]

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bd019d  No.14464046

File: d61e69ae488115b⋯.jpg (4.52 KB, 85x228, 85:228, Ninshubur.jpg)

>>14464025

(Please read from the start)

“Iconography

Ninshubur's attribute was a staff. She was associated with the constellation Orion. It's possible that messenger deities were also associated with shoes, and in one text Inanna addresses Ninshubur with the unique title "pure minister of the lapis lazuli shoes.”

>> Look closely to Ninshubur iconography, she wears a horned helmet/crown = Antelope Clan; so I’m not surprised she is holding a staff since the staff is one of the Antelope warriors weapons as seen on the bronze Plaque of the Hells – weapon number 5 – page 965. She is associated with Orion (just like Osiris and Isis are) for some unknown and mysterious reason. It’s interesting, isn’t it? I have no idea what the Lapis Lazuli shoes could be referring to.

“Character

In Sumerian mythology, Ninshubur is portrayed as "unshakably loyal" in her devotion to her mistress. Their connection was described as uniquely close: Ninshubur, deemed the "beloved" vizier, is at times listed right after Dumuzi among gods belonging to Inanna's circle. Some texts also state that Inanna bestowed NInshubur's titles upon her. Ninshubur was also regarded as capable of appeasing Inanna.

In addition to being a source of great wisdom and knowledge, Ninshubur was also a warrior goddess. She was the guardian and messenger of the god An. She is said to have walked in front of An wherever he went, a position traditionally reserved for a bodyguard.

Frans Wiggerman considers her the most important sukkal, linked to her mistress "not as cause and effect, but as command and execution." As a figure capable of interceding on behalf of humans Ninshubur was also viewed as the ruler of the lamma goddesses, another class of lesser deities with similar functions.”

>> No comment since this is well explained and it fits with everything I’ve been talking about.

“Mythology

Ninshubur was an important figure in ancient Sumerian mythology and she played an integral role in several myths involving her mistress, Inanna.”

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bd019d  No.14464062

>>14464046

(Please read from the start)

“Inanna and Enki

In the Sumerian myth of Inanna and Enki, Ninshubur is described as the one who rescues Inanna from the monsters that Enki has sent after her to recover the stolen mes. In this myth, Ninshubur plays a similar role to Isimud, who acts as Enki's messenger to Inanna.

Inanna's descent to the Underworld

In the Sumerian myth of Inanna's descent into the Netherworld, Ninshubur is described as the one who pleads with all the gods in an effort to persuade them to rescue Inanna from the Netherworld. Inanna later protects her from the galla demons searching for a substitute to take to the land of the dead in her stead.”

>> At least here, Inanna is not selfish and ungrateful towards Ninshubur like she is towards her husband Dumuzid.

“Association with other deities

In Girsu, Ninshubur was considered the wife of Nergal. She wasn't considered the consort of any other male deities otherwise.”

>> I’ve already talked about this. The Griffins are bothering me anons since they point to royalty. I feel like I’m missing something here.

“Papsukkal, gradually conflated with Ninshubur, was the sukkal of Zababa, a war god and the tutelary deity of Kish, sometimes viewed as Inanna's consort.

In at least one god list, Ninshubur or a deity conflated with her (ex. Ilabrat) was regarded as the sukkal of Pinikir, an Elamite goddess analogous to Inanna and worshiped as an astral deity in Mesopotamia and further west among Hittites, Hurrians and Amorites.

Ninshubur's role as a ruler of lamma goddesses overlapped with that of Nanaya, described as "lady of lamma" in some texts.”

>>One last thought: after reading about Ninshubur and knowing of Raziel’s role, I keep on wondering if Nephthys from Ancient Egypt didn’t fill that role, but with Neith/Isis (starting page 880). Just some thoughts there anons, it’s only a possibility because she was “the lady of the House” or the “lady of the Temple enclosure”. I’m not sure about this though.

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c689d1  No.14472482

>>14464062

(Please read from the start)

Let’s continue where I left off with Inanna on page 1 265:

“Syncretism and influence on other deities

In addition to the full conflation of Inanna and Ishtar during the reign of Sargon, she was syncretised with a large number of deities to a varying degree. Many god lists compiled by ancient scribes contained entire "Inanna group" sections enumerating similar goddesses, and tablet IV of the monumental god list An-Anum (7 tablets total) is known as the "Ishtar tablet" due to most of its contents being Ishtar's equivalents, titles and attendants. Some modern researchers use the term Ishtar-type to define specific figures of this variety. Some texts contained references to "all the Ishtars" of a given area.”

>> This made me laugh: the “Ishtar type” ^_^ It’s funny. Well, I guess here the Ishtar type has a double meaning: Antelope Clan warriors and the Sebetti ruler of the Antelope Clan. It can easily refer to both. The more I read about Inanna, the more I think the Evil Lady was the head of the Antelope Clan.

“In later periods Ishtar's name was sometimes used as a generic term ("goddess") in Babylonia, while a logographic writing of Inanna was used to spell the title Bēltu, leading to further conflations. A possible example of such use of the name is also known from Elam.

Specific examples

• Ashtart: in cities like Mari and Ebla, the Eastern and Western Semitic forms of the name were regarded as basically interchangeable. However, the western goddess evidently lacked the astral character of Mesopotamian Ishtar. Ugaritic god lists and ritual texts equate the local Ashtart with both Ishtar and Hurrian Ishara.

• Ishara: due to association with Ishtar, the Syrian goddess Ishara started to be regarded as a "lady of love" like her (and Nanaya) in Mesopotamia. In Alalakh, Ašnakkum (Chagar Bazar) and Tigunāni the logographic writing IŠTAR could refer to Ishara. However in Hurro-Hittite context she was associated with Allani instead and functioned as a goddess of oaths.

• Nanaya: a goddess uniquely closely linked to Inanna, as according to assyriologist Frans Wiggermann her name was originally an epithet of Inanna (possibly serving as an appelative, "My Inanna!"). Nanaya was associated with erotic love, but she eventually developed a warlike aspect of her own too ("Nanaya Euršaba"). In Larsa Inanna's functions were effectively split between three separate figures and she was worshiped as part of a trinity consisting out of herself, Nanaya (as a love goddess) and Ninsianna (as an astral goddess). Inanna/Ishtar and Nanaya were often accidentally or intentionally conflated in poetry.

• Ninegal: while she was initially an independent figure, starting with Old Babylonian period in some texts "Ninegal" is used as a title of Inanna, and in god lists she was a part of the "Inanna group" usually alongside Ninsianna. An example of the usage of "Ninegal" as an epithet can be found in the text designated as Hymn to Inana as Ninegala (Inana D) in the ETCSL.”

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c689d1  No.14472487

>>14472482

(Please read from the start)

• “Ninsianna: a Venus deity of varying gender. Ninsianna is referred to as male by Rim-Sin of Larsa (who specifically used the phrase "my king") and in texts from Sippar, Ur, and Girsu, but as "Ishtar of the stars" in god lists and astronomical texts, which also applied Ishtar's epithets related to her role as a personification of Venus to this deity. In some locations Ninsianna was also known as a female deity, "red queen of heaven."

• Pinikir: originally an Elamite goddess, recognised in Mesopotamia, and as a result among Hurrians and Hittites, as an equivalent of Ishtar due to similar functions. She was identified specifically as her astral aspect (Ninsianna) in god lists. In a Hittite ritual she was identified by the logogram dIŠTAR and Shamash, Suen and Ningal were referred to as her family; Enki and Ishtar's sukkal were invoked in it as well. In Elam she was a goddess of love and sex and a heavenly deity ("mistress of heaven"). Due to syncretism with Ishtar and Ninsianna Pinikir was referred to as both a female and male deity in Hurro-Hittite sources.

• Šauška: her name was frequently written with the logogram logogram dIŠTAR in Hurrian and Hittite sources, while Mesopotamian texts recognised her under the name "Ishtar of Subartu." Some elements peculiar to her were associated with the Assyrian hyposthasis of Ishtar, Ishtar of Nineveh, in later times. Her handmaidens Ninatta and Kulitta were incorporated into the circle of deities believed to serve Ishtar in her temple in Ashur.”

>> There are more, much more than the deity list provided to anons, all various epithets and names given to one and single goddess and most if not all come from later periods = mutated forms.

“Obsolete theories

Some researchers in the past attempted to connect Ishtar to the minor goddess Ashratu, the Babylonian reflection of West Semitic Athirat (Asherah), associated with Amurru; as demonstrated by Steve A. Wiggins this theory was baseless, as the sole piece of evidence that they were ever conflated or even just confused with each other was the fact Ishtar and Ashratu shared an epithet - however the same epithet was also applied to Marduk, Ninurta, Nergal, and Suen, and no further evidence can be found in sources such as god lists. There is also no evidence that Athtart (Ashtart), the Ugaritic cognate of Ishtar, was ever confused or conflated with Athirat by the Amorites.

Sumerian mythology

Origin myths

The poem of Enki and the World Order (ETCSL 1.1.3) begins by describing the god Enki and his establishment of the cosmic organization of the universe. Towards the end of the poem, Inanna comes to Enki and complains that he has assigned a domain and special powers to all of the other gods except for her. She declares that she has been treated unfairly. Enki responds by telling her that she already has a domain and that he does not need to assign her one.”

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c689d1  No.14472528

>>14472487

(Please read from the start)

>> These myths are to be handled carefully because I think they are a projection and not to be taken word to word. Here, I think it’s projecting/reflecting the dissatisfaction of the Evil Lady with what she’s got to rule as a Sebetti queen. As the daughter of the King of kings (most probably) she was given a crown, a people and a land to rule upon. But she wasn’t satisfied with what she got and she wanted a bigger piece of the cake, sort of speak.

This dissatisfaction caused a “crack” in the bonds/relationship between her and her royal parents, mostly the King of kings. And I think this “crack” was exploited = taken advantage of by the Evil One to get her on his side and turn her evil like him. He simply played on this sensitive string and amplified it all. In turn this explains her hunger for power and why she wanted to conquer the kingdoms of the other Sebetti rulers.

There is something else behind the curtain in this as well. This also suggests that she felt inferior towards her other siblings whom got “biggers” shares of the cakes. In other words, she felt her father was unfair because he gave her siblings bigger and better kingdoms than he gave to her. Does this mean the other male Sebetti kings were her brothers as well? It’s possible.

“The myth of "Inanna and the Huluppu Tree", found in the preamble to the epic of Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld (ETCSL 1.8.1.4), centers around a young Inanna, not yet stable in her power. It begins with a huluppu tree, which Kramer identifies as possibly a willow, growing on the banks of the river Euphrates. Inanna moves the tree to her garden in Uruk with the intention to carve it into a throne once it is fully grown. The tree grows and matures, but the serpent "who knows no charm", the Anzû-bird, and Lilitu (Ki-Sikil-Lil-La-Ke in Sumerian), seen by some as the Sumerian forerunner to the Lilith of Jewish folklore, all take up residence within the tree, causing Inanna to cry with sorrow. The hero Gilgamesh, who, in this story, is portrayed as her brother, comes along and slays the serpent, causing the Anzû-bird and Lilitu to flee. Gilgamesh's companions chop down the tree and carve its wood into a bed and a throne, which they give to Inanna, who fashions a pikku and a mikku (probably a drum and drumsticks respectively, although the exact identifications are uncertain), which she gives to Gilgamesh as a reward for his heroism.”

>> As said before, these stories/myths shouldn’t be taken word to word. Inanna didn’t need to carve = make herself a new throne, she already had a kingdom. Since she was dissatisfied with what her Father gave her, this points that she was thinking of taking “another” throne, another Sebetti ruler throne. Reminds you of the disgusting series called Games of throne, right?

I don’t think the “tree” represents a real tree with green leaves and roots. I think it either represents a place = geographic location or it represents a building, like a palace or temple.

The Serpent was killed by Gilgamesh projecting the death of the Evil One. He resided in the “tree” for some time….so does this mean he was at a very specific location or was he in the Royal Palace of the King of kings? Loads to think about here.

Lilitu in the text COULD mean her = the Evil Lady. Remember, that night, there was a baquet at the Royal Palace and everyone attended. But somehow the Evil Lady managed to flee and stay away from the explosion which triggered the Cataclysm – she was far away in her “ship” along with others (her vassals and followers most probably), along with other survivors, when the Cataclysm started and she shrieked in pain when she realized what happened. The banquet explains why everyone seems to have been in one location = that location is most probably the Royal Palace. So the “tree” might be a building = the Royal Palace of the King of kings. I will be talking about this later on.

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c689d1  No.14472553

File: d613ce5fa8a87b7⋯.jpg (18.38 KB, 612x407, 612:407, istockphoto_157187128_612x….jpg)

Pray for the victims of another blast. Pray for the people whom are suffering.

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ab6e8e  No.14479392

File: f3b9601163fb393⋯.jpg (1002.1 KB, 1920x1280, 3:2, British_Museum_Room_56_mac….jpg)

File: 932a35cc5352fd2⋯.jpg (134.88 KB, 800x588, 200:147, Alabaster_votive_relief_of….jpg)

>>14472528

(Please read from the start)

Let’s take a look at the Anzu bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anz%C3%BB

“Anzû, also known as dZû and Imdugud (Sumerian: AN.IM.DUGUDMUŠEN), is a lesser divinity or monster in several Mesopotamian religions. He was conceived by the pure waters of the Apsu and the wide Earth, or as son of Siris. Anzû was depicted as a massive bird who can breathe fire and water, although Anzû is alternately depicted as a lion-headed eagle.”

>> This is very very interesting. Are we dealing with ThunderBirds here or with multi-morph warriors? Let’s read more to know which one it is.

“Stephanie Dalley, in Myths from Mesopotamia, writes that "the Epic of Anzu is principally known in two versions: an Old Babylonian version of the early second millennium [BC], giving the hero as Ningirsu; and 'The Standard Babylonian' version, dating to the first millennium BC, which appears to be the most quoted version, with the hero as Ninurta". However, the Anzu character does not appear as often in some other writings, as noted below.”

>> Both can be considered of later date, which means mutations must have occurred.

“Name

The name of the mythological being usually called Anzû was actually written in the oldest Sumerian cuneiform texts as 𒀭𒉎𒈪𒄷 (AN.IM.MIMUŠEN; the cuneiform sign 𒄷, or MUŠEN, in context is an ideogram for "bird"). In texts of the Old Babylonian period, the name is more often found as 𒀭𒉎𒂂𒄷 AN.IM.DUGUDMUŠEN. In 1961, Landsberger argued that this name should be read as "Anzu", and most researchers have followed suit. In 1989, Thorkild Jacobsen noted that the original reading of the cuneiform signs as written (giving the name "dIM.dugud") is also valid, and was probably the original pronunciation of the name, with Anzu derived from an early phonetic variant. Similar phonetic changes happened to parallel terms, such as imdugud (meaning "heavy wind") becoming ansuk. Changes like these occurred by evolution of the im to an (a common phonetic change) and the blending of the new n with the following d, which was aspirated as dh, a sound which was borrowed into Akkadian as z or s.

>> See how mutation occurs from one generation to the next? The meaning is BIRD apparently.

“It has also been argued based on contextual evidence and transliterations on cuneiform learning tablets, that the earliest, Sumerian form of the name was at least sometimes also pronounced Zu, and that Anzu is primarily the Akkadian form of the name. However, there is evidence for both readings of the name in both languages, and the issue is confused further by the fact that the prefix (AN) was often used to distinguish deities or even simply high places. AN.ZU could therefore mean simply "heavenly eagle".”

>> Heavenly Eagle = ThunderBirds. I’m starting to understand what this is all about.

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a5c020  No.14479468

File: d5e247ced7e135b⋯.jpg (81.71 KB, 764x864, 191:216, Sumerian_Anzu.jpg)

>>14479392

(Please read from the start)

“Origin and cultural evolution

Thorkild Jacobsen proposed that Anzu was an early form of the god Abu, who was also syncretized by the ancients with Ninurta/Ningirsu, a god associated with thunderstorms. Abu was referred to as "Father Pasture", illustrating the connection between rainstorms and the fields growing in Spring. According to Jacobsen, this god was originally envisioned as a huge black thundercloud in the shape of an eagle, and was later depicted with a lion's head to connect it to the roar of thunder. Some depictions of Anzu therefore depict the god alongside goats (which, like thunderclouds, were associated with mountains in the ancient Near East) and leafy boughs. The connection between Anzu and Abu is further reinforced by a statue found in the Tell Asmar Hoard depicting a human figure with large eyes, with an Anzu bird carved on the base. It is likely that this depicts Anzu in his symbolic or earthly form as the Anzu-bird, and in his higher, human-like divine form as Abu. Though some scholars have proposed that the statue actually represents a human worshiper of Anzu, others have pointed out that it does not fit the usual depiction of Sumerian worshipers, but instead matches similar statues of gods in human form with their more abstract form or their symbols carved onto the base.”

>> I don’t agree with Jacobson. He gave a terribly wrong interpretation. When taking a look at Gudea’s libation vase (starting page 690) we also took a look at Ningishzida (starting page 697). Back then, it was clear, that Ningishzida, Nergal and including Ninurta, were all Horned Serpent warriors. These are different person, but later generations merged them because of the same characteristics and description = common points they all shared = Horned Serpent warriors.

In this tale of Ninurta fighting the Anzu it’s clear this is a battle between the Horned Serpent warriors and the ThunderBirds warriors. From this account, it seems the ThunderBirds lost and were killed. But you see, there is a “hick” in this story: whom wrote this?

If this was written by a follower of the Evil Clan, then, it means we are seeing the story from (((their))) scope and it makes very sense that the Horned Serpent warriors would be portrayed as victorious and doing good. In the same time, (((they))) would portray the ThunderBirds as horrible, cruel and monsters. We are seeing the ThunderBirds through the eyes of the Evil Clan. It’s identical to how they portrayed Osiris as being Evil and a cruel ruler to justify his murder by Seth.

If this was the good guys writing this story, then it doesn’t make sense how a known Horned Serpent warrior is portrayed as the “good” guy and he’s getting rid of an Evil beast. No… this doesn’t add up. I think whomever wrote this was part of the Evil Clan and this story is being told according to (((their))) side of things.

I’m not surprised to see Ninurta manipulate storms, or rain, wind, lightning, etc. since we know the coup plotter stole the military technology from the other clans, merged it with theirs and used it during battle.

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a5c020  No.14479473

File: 5d52d8af05aeb1e⋯.jpg (31.7 KB, 381x269, 381:269, Emblem_of_the_Anzu.jpg)

>>14479468

(Please read from the start)

“Sumerian and Akkadian myth

In Sumerian and Akkadian mythology, Anzû is a divine storm-bird and the personification of the southern wind and the thunder clouds. This demon—half man and half bird—stole the "Tablet of Destinies" from Enlil and hid them on a mountaintop. Anu ordered the other gods to retrieve the tablet, even though they all feared the demon. According to one text, Marduk killed the bird; in another, it died through the arrows of the god Ninurta.”

>> The first sentence is a real delicacy to read. It reminds me of 2 things:

1 – Re-read the Native American ThunderBirds (starting page 737). The description given to them and how they bring storms is very similar to what we read here. A few words, but they hold a big meaning.

2 – It reminds me of the description given of the multiple Baal gods in Phoenician texts. I will be explaining this further down, after I finish clearing this part.

Just like what we saw with a variant of the Native American ThunderBirds called “Bird man”, Anzu is half bird, half human. On page 743, from the Passamaquoddy Indians legends, we know that the ThunderBirds used to “shapeshift” between the Eagles and the human forms.

Since this story was written by (((their))) clan, (((they))) accused (((their))) enemies = the ThunderBirds of committing the crime/felony (((they))) did which consists of stealing the “Tablets of Destiny”. I don’t know what that is. I want to remind anons that we also know that Inanna stole the “sacred mes” from Enki. So are these 2 objects the one and the same? I don’t know. But whatever it is, it seems it’s linked to royal right or should I say royal “ownership of the throne”.

From the sound of it, it seems the Evil Couple was planning to steal the tables of Destiny or the sacred mes (whatever these are) as an object in their possession to validate their claim to the throne of Heaven. It might be a piece of paper or it might be the royal seal or anything that points to whomever owns this object is the rightful king.

Whomever owns this object or is in possession of it can claim himself as the ultimate ruler and claim his right to sit on the throne of Heaven. I believe this is one of the objects current day Bloodline are desperately looking for and some say this is what is buried under the Umayyad square in Damascus. Lots of urban legends there. It’s hard to tell, unless you have a better description of what this specific object of high importance is.

The Horned Serpent clan is accusing the Anzu Bird = ThunderBirds warriors of “stealing” this important object, flying away with it and hiding it on top of a mountain. Well good luck finding it because there are thousands of mountain tops and it could be anywhere on the planet since the ThunderBirds had the Jet suit, they could fly anywhere in a short time. It could be on Mt Everest for all I know.

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4b69a9  No.14485271

>>14479473

(Please read from the start)

Whatever that object is, it’s in the safe hands of the ThunderBirds = the divine warriors. If it was in the hands of the Evil Clan, I think they would have already made the claim for the throne of Heaven. It’s obvious the Horned Serpent warriors went on a searching expedition for this special object, but they never found it. It’s “possible” but not certain that the specific = individual ThunderBird whom hid that special object away from the Horned Serpent warrior is dead; might be dead. I’m saying MIGHT, not certain, because this story is told from the Evil Clan perspective. Also anyone notice how Ninurta “shot” the thunderBird with his arrows? = Antelope Clan weapon used = ARROWS = Bronze Plaque of the Hells, weapon number 6. It puts a smile on my face when I read the Horned Serpent warriors “all feared the demon” = the ThunderBird.

“Anzu also appears in the story of "Inanna and the Huluppu Tree", which is recorded in the preamble to the Sumerian epic poem Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld.”

>> Yes, Anzu shows up in Gilgamesh. I was talking about this before I got into this detour. I think the “Tree” either represents the location of a building or it’s a geographic location. The ThunderBirds were there along with the Serpent = the Evil One, which was slayed. But the ThunderBirds managed to fly away before the explosion happened or as it was happening. Since they could fly, it was easy for them to escape. This is what you can understand from the Epic of Gilgamesh. I’m interested to know whom the “young” of the ThunderBirds was?

“Anzu appears in the Sumerian Lugalbanda and the Anzud Bird (also called: The Return of Lugalbanda).”

>> Here is the link for a quick read for anons about this Lugalbanda story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugalbanda_and_the_Anzud_Bird

As anons can see, in this story, the Anzu bird isn’t bad or evil or demonic. It behaves kindly towards Lugalbanda. But…I think this also is a projection of the WINGS THEFT from the ThunderBirds by the Horned Serpents.

“Babylonian and Assyrian myth

The shorter Old Babylonian version was found at Susa. Full version in Myths from Mesopotamia: Creation, The Flood, Gilgamesh, and Others by Stephanie Dalley, page 222 and at The Epic of Anzû, Old Babylonian version from Susa, Tablet II, lines 1-83, read by Claus Wilcke. The longer Late Assyrian version from Nineveh is most commonly called The Myth of Anzu. (Full version in Dalley, page 205). An edited version is at Myth of Anzu.”

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4b69a9  No.14485282

File: a93d22216f22d98⋯.jpg (65.96 KB, 440x293, 440:293, Eagle_of_Lagash.jpg)

>>14485271

(Please read from the start)

“Also in Babylonian myth, Anzû is a deity associated with cosmogeny. Anzû is represented as stripping the father of the gods of umsimi (which is usually translated "crown" but in this case, as it was on the seat of Bel, it refers to the "ideal creative organ"). Regarding this, Charles Penglase writes that "Ham is the Chaldean Anzû, and both are cursed for the same allegorically described crime," which parallels the mutilation of Uranus by Cronus and of Osiris by Set.”

>> It’s obvious here (((they))) are projecting (((their))) crimes and sins onto (((their))) enemies = the ThunderBirds. (((They))) plotted to take the throne and (((they))) killed the King of kings. The ThunderBirds fought back along with the other warriors from the other clans, including the other Sebetti rulers.

Some of the Anzu bird’s iconography is confused or fused with that of Tiamat by later generation and this misunderstanding still persists till current day, including on the net. So be careful when working.

I would like to talk a bit of the iconography of the Anzu birds we see on the artifacts I’ve put for anons. I picked them from different eras, stopping at the Babylonian and the mutation/change is obvious.

We see the Anzu on some of the reliefs standing on 2 lions which are facing outwards. On one set of the reliefs (the 2 artifact on page 1 272) it’s clear, the Anzu bird is resting on the lions. It’s clear he is not attacking them because of how his talons are resting on the lions. They are not clutching the lion, but simply put on them = resting on them. While on the relief I’m putting with this page, the eagle is still resting on the back of the lions but the lions have their heads turned upwards and they are holding the eagle’s wings in their mouths = biting into it. I don’t think they are attacking one another anons, all 3 animals are represented in a relaxed manner, no tension we usually see displayed during a fight.

Anons will ask me what does it means. Despite the variation between both designs, I think it’s pointing to the same thing: the earliest form of the Griffin. If we combine this iconography of the Anzu Bird to the Burney stele (page 766 & again fourth picture from page 1 245), the famous Ishtar stele, then we will notice the idea behind both is the same. The main idea is of a winged being standing on the back of 2 lions. It doesn’t matter if it’s Ishtar or a ThunderBird standing on the back of the lions because in both cases the interpretation is the same = they both come from the kingdom/land which had its heraldic symbol as a Lion.

I’ve talked of this before and I think this has the potential of representing the kingdom of Atlantis or it could be representing one of those small kingdoms in the Taurus mountain chain after the Flood receded. I think if I keep on going in this thread, I will finally be able to crack this one open and understand the Griffin.

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3c5512  No.14491040

File: 1cc7a5ebf800629⋯.jpg (68.43 KB, 800x290, 80:29, 3b_Anzu_seal.jpg)

>>14485282

(Please read from the start)

The artifact I’m putting with this page is obviously a variation (possibly a mutation) of the previous Anzu design. Before I start explaining, I would like to ask anons to go back to page 759 and take a look at both Rothschild ball costumes; as well as reminding anons that Harry Potter’s Patronas is a Stag. I’m sure if I look, I will find more examples to give anons, but those 2 should be enough for anons to understand that the Stag/deer is a form of the Antelope Sebetti.

When the Hittites migrated in many waves to Europe after the fall of their empire, they transferred with them to Europe many of the myths and deities of Mesopotamia. Of course, along the centuries everything would have mutated many times over. I’m trying to say that the deer is to be considered as pointing to the Evil Lady’s clan. This includes Artemis and Diana by the way.

https://www.englishforums.com/English/StagAndAntelope/kgxcg/post.htm

“A stag is the male of any species of deer or deer-like animals. Females are never referred to as stags. A female deer is called a doe.

An antelope is a particular species of deer, including both males and females.”

>> Anons may wonder why I’m using the word Antelope to refer to this specific clan and not the word Deer: it’s because they showed up earliest in current History in Ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia where they are clearly Antelopes. So I thought it would be better to stick to the oldest form to call the Clan of the Evil Lady.

The first artifact with this same concept is a cylinder seal where we can see the Anzu bird in almost the same stance as we have in the previous artifacts, as in with open wings with his talons on the back of animals. He’s got the head of a lion though, but here, it’s clear, the Anzu bird is aggressive towards these animals which are Antelopes = deer. His aggressiveness is shown by 3 details:

1 – The open mouth of the Anzu is indicating that this Anzu is roaring like a lion. When does a lion roar? See what I mean?

2 – Look closely how the talons of the Anzu are depicted; they are quite sharp aren’t they? It’s like they are clutching the Antelope, not resting on it. The sharpness and the way he is clutching the Antelopes indicates the Anzu has his talons poking the flesh of the Antelope and not peacefully resting upon its back. Just like how Bald Eagles catch/snatch their prey and how they sink their talons into the flesh of the prey.

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3c5512  No.14491045

File: 955885c937c5c3f⋯.jpg (14.89 KB, 334x151, 334:151, Relief_from_the_temple_at_….jpg)

File: 51b7e979973d191⋯.jpg (38.05 KB, 680x390, 68:39, white_tail_deer.jpg)

>>14491040

(Please read from the start)

3 – The Antelopes in this artifact are not steady on their feet and they have their rear lifted up by the Anzu bird, as if it’s hunting them. Have you ever seen a lion hunt an Antelope on tv before? The Lion chases the Antelope, then, he hits it on its rear feet to trip it and make it fall. Once the Antelope is unstable on its feet and hits the groud, the lion goes for the throat = the kill. Here having the Antelope depicted in a destabilized way means he is being attacked/hunted by the Anzu bird.

It’s very clear here that the ThunderBird is attacking or fighting the Antelope warriors.

The artifact – I’m attaching to this page – is of a relief where we see the Anzu bird once more with Antelopes/deer. But this time, 2 significant mutations occurred:

1 – The Anzu is not showing any sign of aggressiveness towards the Antelopes.

2 – The Anzu is not resting on the back of the Antelopes, but strangely, he is resting on their tail. I’ve attached a picture of a deer where anons can see the length of its tail. I don’t think these frail tails can carry the weight of the Anzu bird.

This means the sculptor whom made this relief (or the person whom asked for it to be carved) didn’t know or understand the meaning of the Anzu bird with the Antelopes design in the previous page artifact. It also shows the sculptor is concerned about symmetry and filling the blanks, this is why he used the tails of the deer as a perch for the Anzu.

I’ve already explained about the Anzu bird residing in the tree in the Epic of Gilgamesh, so I consider things done for this birdy. Let’s go back to where I left off with Inanna on page 1 271.

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a705ee  No.14496604

>>14491045

(Please read from the start)

So, Lilitu, Anzu bird and the Serpent had all taken residence in the TREE = which I think it’s either a geographic location or a building like a palace or something like that. This means they all lived in the same place or were all there at the same moment.

When Gilgamesh comes to slay the Serpent, this is a mirroring of the death of the Evil One, while it clearly said that the ThunderBirds and the Evil Lady fled the site = left. I think it’s because the explosion was imminent so they had to flee to save their skin. Then Gilgamesh’s companions chops down the Tree: was that place/building destroyed? Of course it was. Why? Because an explosion took place which triggered the Cataclysm and the epicenter of that explosion was that TREE.

Then a new throne and a bed were carved for Inanna and she was happy. A new throne is her new kingdom after the Flood water receded = where she settled in and established a new kingdom after the Flood. But the “bed” is tricky. It can point to 2 things = 1 – she had many lovers since the Evil One died – 2 – a bed can strangely look like a raft or a boat. I don’t know anons, I’m scratching my head about this bed thing. It’s not easy to figure out. Maybe I’m wrong on both possibilities about the bed; if so, then what could it be? What could the “bed” symbolize or represent? It’s hard to tell.

Yes, Inanna was happy for getting the new throne and the bed because she gave as a gift to Gilgamesh “the pikku & the mikku” which none has figured out what they really are.

“The Sumerian hymn Inanna and Utu contains an etiological myth describing how Inanna became the goddess of sex. At the beginning of the hymn, Inanna knows nothing of sex, so she begs her brother Utu to take her to Kur (the Sumerian underworld), so that she may taste the fruit of a tree that grows there, which will reveal to her all the secrets of sex. Utu complies and, in Kur, Inanna tastes the fruit and becomes knowledgeable. The hymn employs the same motif found in the myth of Enki and Ninhursag and in the later Biblical story of Adam and Eve.”

>> This paragraph is a real gem. I’ve talked about this before and I gave many examples for anons from Hollywood movies. This Sebetti queen was pure, good hearted and innocent at first. She got seduced by the Evil One through sex and promises of sharing the throne with him. He changed her by the means of perverted sex = pedovore. The more I read, the more I’m starting to believe that the “Forbidden Fruit” is the flesh of humans = eating humans = cannibalism. When she became a cannibal, she became knowledgeable = (((their))) twisted knowledge. This is (((their))) sick, twisted, perverted “enlightenment” (((they))) like to brag about.

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a705ee  No.14496616

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>>14496604

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Another interesting detail in this paragraph is the mention of her brother. It’s said here that she asks her BROTHER to “take her to Kur = Sumerian underworld, where she tasted the “Forbidden Fruit”. This has the smell of incest all over it, just like what I’ve been suspecting before. The highest possibility is a brother/sister incest.

As for this underworld or the Kur, I keep on wondering if it’s not earth = living on the surface of the planet. If the Sebetti rulers where living in an elevated place, like a “floating mountain”, then everything below them is the underworld; while they live in the upperworld. This reminds me of the movie Elysium (mentioned in page 207) where the “elite” used to live “UP” while the rest of the population used to live “BELOW”. Is this where that movie got the idea from?

The underworld could also mean the word below the surface of the planet = what some may call Hollow Earth. The Third possibility for a meaning is this could be indication Hell = as in that furnace like place where people with evil spirits go to because of their evil deeds. Loads to think about here. This tale of Inanna is the just another mirroring as to what had happened back then, just like the story of Adam and Eve is.

“The poem Inanna Prefers the Farmer (ETCSL 4.0.8.3.3) begins with a rather playful conversation between Inanna and Utu, who incrementally reveals to her that it is time for her to marry. She is courted by a farmer named Enkimdu and a shepherd named Dumuzid. At first, Inanna prefers the farmer, but Utu and Dumuzid gradually persuade her that Dumuzid is the better choice for a husband, arguing that, for every gift the farmer can give to her, the shepherd can give her something even better. In the end, Inanna marries Dumuzid. The shepherd and the farmer reconcile their differences, offering each other gifts. Samuel Noah Kramer compares the myth to the later Biblical story of Cain and Abel because both myths center around a farmer and a shepherd competing for divine favor and, in both stories, the deity in question ultimately chooses the shepherd.”

>> Here I think it’s mirroring how the Evil One convinced the Evil Lady to become a pedovore. Here, it’s showing how she switched from being a vegetarian = not a cannibal; into being a meat eater, but not just any meat = human meat. At the end, the Evil One cemented her conversion with promises of “gifts” = are these treasures? Gems? Gold? Sharing power? Ruling together? She had a lack of “ruling power” which made her feel inferior to the other Sebetti rulers. As in she felt like she didn’t get a good share to rule upon and she wanted more. I’ve talked about this before. This was exploited by the smooth talker = the Evil One; he promised her many “gifts”. She finally chose him and joined hands with him for the coup.

“Conquests and patronage

Inanna and Enki (ETCSL t.1.3.1) is a lengthy poem written in Sumerian, which may date to the Third Dynasty of Ur (c. 2112 BC – c. 2004 BC); it tells the story of how Inanna stole the sacred mes from Enki, the god of water and human culture. In ancient Sumerian mythology, the mes were sacred powers or properties belonging to the gods that allowed human civilization to exist. Each me embodied one specific aspect of human culture. These aspects were very diverse and the mes listed in the poem include abstract concepts such as Truth, Victory, and Counsel, technologies such as writing and weaving, and also social constructs such as law, priestly offices, kingship, and prostitution. The mes were believed to grant power over all the aspects of civilization, both positive and negative.”

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84272b  No.14502115

>>14496616

(Please read from the start)

>> It’s unclear what the “mes” are; mostly what is their nature, as in if they are objects, laws or virtues etc. Whatever these “mes” are they seem to be of high importance for the Evil Lady to go over the trouble to steal them. Sometimes while reading about the “mes” it makes feel like they are the stolen military technology the Evil Couple merged with their own armors. There is…how should I call it? = a part in this story which makes it “acceptable” or as if it’s “justifying” the action made by Inanna = theft. When you read this again and again, it’s under the tone, but it’s like they are saying: it’s alright for Inanna to steal the “mes”; it’s ok, everything is fine. Strange, it’s like theft is not a bad action, but it’s justified.

“Writing” is very, very special, more than anons realize and we will be talking about it later when we reach a certain point. “Weaving”…I don’t think here it’s related to weaving as the work, but I think here it’s pointing to the weaving of Fate done by Neith. I think the Evil Lady tried to somehow “steal” that power from Neith. I don’t think she could zap that power, or suck it from Neith herself; as in extract it from her. This cannot be done since it’s imbedded within Neith’s own biological constitution, as in she was born with it genetically = a genetic gift. Anyways, I think the Evil Lady, tried and maybe succeeded to turn to her side some of the Spider Oracle seers whom used to be under Neith. I think this is what it means and I think this is how the Horned Serpent Clan got his hands on the power of the seers; at least some of it, not fully.

Same goes for the King of kings with his immense Spiritual power = he was born with it. It can only be transmitted via genes, not taken away from him physically. And I think this is the reason why the Evil One, in his lunacy, ATE parts of the King of kings, thinking by doing so, he will have the Spiritual power of the great King.

“Truth” and “Victory” …hm! Could these 2 also be some type of special ability the other Sebetti had. As in one was extremely truthful, or can extract the truth from others; while the other was always victorious in no matter what he did? Loads of possibilities and loads to think about here.

In an overall view, it’s clear the Evil Lady stole the “mes” because she knew without them, she would be easily defeated by the other Sebetti rulers. She already had an “inferiority” complex and felt like her “powers” were less than what the other rulers had. So to get the chances of victory to her side, she stole them, which makes sense if you are in a war or planning a coup to take the throne.

“Law”, “priestly offices” and “kingship” are all part of the 7 Sebetti rulers job. As for “prostitution”, it’s her = the Evil Lady’s addiction to sex, not just any sex, but perverted sex. I believe she was the FIRST EVER PROSTITUTE IN HISTORY and from there on, it became part of her cult, practiced by the descendants of the coup plotters = the Bloodlines.

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84272b  No.14502121

>>14502115

(Please read from the start)

“In the myth, Inanna travels from her own city of Uruk to Enki's city of Eridu, where she visits his temple, the E-Abzu. Inanna is greeted by Enki's sukkal, Isimud, who offers her food and drink. Inanna starts up a drinking competition with Enki. Then, once Enki is thoroughly intoxicated, Inanna persuades him to give her the mes. Inanna flees from Eridu in the Boat of Heaven, taking the mes back with her to Uruk. Enki wakes up to discover that the mes are gone and asks Isimud what has happened to them. Isimud replies that Enki has given all of them to Inanna. Enki becomes infuriated and sends multiple sets of fierce monsters after Inanna to take back the mes before she reaches the city of Uruk. Inanna's sukkal Ninshubur fends off all of the monsters that Enki sends after them. Through Ninshubur's aid, Inanna successfully manages to take the mes back with her to the city of Uruk. After Inanna escapes, Enki reconciles with her and bids her a positive farewell. It is possible that this legend may represent a historic transfer of power from the city of Eridu to the city of Uruk. It is also possible that this legend may be a symbolic representation of Inanna's maturity and her readiness to become the Queen of Heaven.”

>> First of all, the Evil Lady uses tricks = giving alcohol to Enki in order to take the “mes”. This suggests she knew in advance Enki wouldn’t willingly give her the “mes”, so she PLANNED to trick him to take them. If there wasn’t anything wrong or criminal with Inanna taking the “mes”, she wouldn’t need to “escape” = run away. Only when you know you’ve committed an act you shouldn’t have done, and you are afraid of the consequences that you “escape” and run away like that = you know you are guilty.

I don’t understand how you need to “persuade” someone whom is drunk. I honestly don’t understand it. I mean, he’s already drunk = out of it, so how do you “persuade” a drunk person? In order to persuade, you gotta reason with that person, so can you talk reason with a drunk person?

Again why does she need to FLEE if she didn’t do anything wrong? And what is this “BOAT of Heavem” she used. I like the sound of that…BOAT of Heaven… isn’t the Ark a big BOAT? This confirms 2 points I previously made:

1- Noah didn’t build the Ark, but it already existed in Atlantis; as in it was Atlantean technology and machinery.

2- The Evil Lady was on board of the ARK, which landed on Mt Ararat after the Cataclysm had calmed down and she came out of it.

How can I be sure of this second point? As in how can I be sure she stole the “mes” on the day the Cataclysm occurred? Well, she knew Enki was going to come after her when he sobered up, she wouldn’t play that card in advance. She would have coordinated with the Evil One and each had their specific “missions” to do: the moment the other Sebetti rulers would realize she stole the “mes”, they would ALL be coming after her and she would be revealed as one of the coup plotters, so this has to be done on the day when the Evil Couple were going to STRIKE. Because when they strike, they are going to reveal they have been planning a coup to take the throne, and they are going to out themselves as traitors towards the King of kings. In other words, the other Sebetti rulers would have caught onto the plans to take over the throne if the Evil Lady stole the “mes” prior to the Big Day of the coup. This is shedding more light onto what happened on that horrible day.

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02bc44  No.14507901

>>14502121

(Please read from the start)

Also the Sukkal of Enki, greeted the Evil Lady as if he was expecting her to come and then he offered her food and drink. Enki got drunk. Doesn’t it sound like a reception being held at the palace of Enki? Remember how there was a reception at the palace in the epic of Atra-Hasis?

So after Enki “sobers up” he gets furious when his Sukkal informs him that he had “given” the “mes” to the Evil Lady and he asks “monsters” = ThunderBirds and the rest of the Light warriors, to bring back the stolen “mes”. Remember anons, such tales are written by the Evil clan, so they call the warriors of the Light, mostly the ThunderBirds as monsters and evil beings.

Here, they said Inanna’s Sukkal, Ninshubur, was the one whom fended off ALL of the monsters sent by Enki. I don’t think this is correct. I think here, they are point that it’s Inanna’s “servants”/”followers” = Horned Serpents whom faced the ThunderBirds and a battle ensued.

This is one lame ending for Enki’s fury, don’t you think anons? Don’t you find anything ODD by how Enki, suddenly “reverted” from attacking the Evil Lady, reconciles with her and politely bid her farewell? Really now, whom’s leg are you trying to pull here? No reason whatsoever is given as to why this 180 degrees change occurred. Also no explanations or details given as well as no narration shedding light on the events. If you listen to what the Evil Clan wrote here; it’s like one day Enki work up and tada… decided to be nice to the Evil Lady.

We know the Evil Lady didn’t keep the “stolen important objects” because we just saw a few pages ago, when taking a look at the Anzu bird, that at least ONE ThunderBird, managed to “take back” these special objects (or some of them) and hid them somewhere on a mountain top around the world, before he was “apparently” killed by a Horned Serpent. So how do I explain this lame ending in this tale and Enki’s changed attitude? Well, the one whom wrote this was from the Evil Clan and we know (((they))) are arrogant and won’t admit (((their))) own mistakes and sins but project them onto others. Same goes for (((their))) defeat: (((they))) are unwilling to admit the ThunderBirds kicked (((their))) evil asses and took back those “special, important objects”. So in order to “disguise” (((their))) humiliating defeat = since Inanna herself was defeated, (((they))) applied make-up on the story and made it sound like Enki had a change of heart and he became sweet and nice = control of the narrative.

This is probably one of the first ever MEDIA manipulation that happened in History anons. Where do you think modern days MSM got their tactics from? This has started LONG ago, longer than any of you even realize. And this tale is a sample of how it used to happen back in Mesopotamia, they used to “twist and spin the narrative. Remember how (((they))) project Osiris as evil and Seth as good in Ancient Egypt? Tha’ts anoter attempt to contro the narrative.

This tale does NOT represent the “readiness of Inanna of becoming her Queen of Heaven”. This represents her greed of taking the place of the Queen of queens = greed for power.

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02bc44  No.14507911

>>14507901

(Please read from the start)

“The poem Inanna Takes Command of Heaven is an extremely fragmentary, but important, account of Inanna's conquest of the Eanna temple in Uruk. It begins with a conversation between Inanna and her brother Utu in which Inanna laments that the Eanna temple is not within their domain and resolves to claim it as her own. The text becomes increasingly fragmentary at this point in the narrative, but appears to describe her difficult passage through a marshland to reach the temple while a fisherman instructs her on which route is best to take. Ultimately, Inanna reaches her father An, who is shocked by her arrogance, but nevertheless concedes that she has succeeded and that the temple is now her domain. The text ends with a hymn expounding Inanna's greatness. This myth may represent an eclipse in the authority of the priests of An in Uruk and a transfer of power to the priests of Inanna.”

>> No, this doesn’t represent the transfer of power from the priests of An to the priests of Inanna. This is a projection of what happened back then.

Yes, everything started with a conversation between the Evil Lady and the Evil One, whom seems to be her brother. I think the temple of Eanna represents the Royal Palace of the King of kings or a projection of it in this story at least. In this conversation, she told = admitted, confessed to her brother that she would like to make the throne of Heaven hers.

The next section is not complete, we have fragments from it, so we gotta be extra careful on the meaning of it all. The fisherman might be our fish men which were the Spiritual Healers – I’ve talked about them many times and revisited the subject from page 1 159 to page 1 161. Inanna talked to one at least and he gave her advice/instructions.

Here it’s difficult to see through, mostly that we have fragments of the text. The situation with the Fish man = Spiritual Healer, is unclear. Was he a traitor to the King of kings and had switched sides? Was the Fish man “tricked” to give her the information just like was Enki when she stole the “mes” from him? Did he think she was an innocent young lady, asking for advice and doesn’t have any ulterior motives in her request? = this last idea reminds me of how Voldemort tricked one of the professors of the school to tell her about the Horcruxes. There are many possibilities as to what happened back then and unfortunately, we only have fragments of the text.

She had to cross a “marshland” to reach the TEMPLE. Then it’s said that a fisherman instructed her on which road to take best. Did she reach the temple first and she met the fisherman there? Or did she meet the fisherman first whom guided her to the temple? It’s unclear and it’s ambiguous because it’s fragmentary. From the sound of it, one of the possibilities is that TEMPLE is probably her destination; or at least one of her destinations.

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02bc44  No.14507926

>>14507911

(Please read from the start)

They tell us that in the end, she managed to reach her FATHER. This means she got, at the end = finally, to the Royal Palace. So was she seeking an audience with the King of kings and the Fish man got her an audience with her Father? Did the Fish man play the role of intermediary between Father and daughter? It’s undetermined because the tale is fragmentary.

I love it when they said that An is “shocked” by her “arrogance”. I bet he was. She transformed from a naïve, innocent, sweet daughter, to a greedy, evil and arrogant one. That would shock any father, any parent. This sentence is another way of saying that: The Evil Lady showed her true face, her true colors to her Father. Do you remember how Inanna shrieked when the Cataclysm started and regretted that she have said all of those evil things in the Assembly of the Gods? I wonder if this is not when she spate all of those nasty things to her Father mostly, just a short while before the Coup was put into motion = the big Day for the coup plotters.

What did Inanna succeed in? How did the TEMPLE came to be under her domain? What is the TEMPLE? Unfortunately, we don’t have the answer for all of this. I suspect the Temple might be the Royal Palace, but, again, it’s not confirmed.

“Inanna briefly appears at the beginning and end of the epic poem Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta (ETCSL 1.8.2.3). The epic deals with a rivalry between the cities of Uruk and Aratta. Enmerkar, the king of Uruk, wishes to adorn his city with jewels and precious metals, but cannot do so because such minerals are only found in Aratta and, since trade does not yet exist, the resources are not available to him. Inanna, who is the patron goddess of both cities, appears to Enmerkar at the beginning of the poem and tells him that she favors Uruk over Aratta. She instructs Enmerkar to send a messenger to the lord of Aratta to ask for the resources Uruk needs. The majority of the epic revolves around a great contest between the two kings over Inanna's favor. Inanna reappears at the end of the poem to resolve the conflict by telling Enmerkar to establish trade between his city and Aratta.

>> This one is very tricky to understand. Are they talking really about these 2 City-States after the Cataclysm? Or are they talking in this tale about 2 City-States before the Cataclysm? I have no idea of figuring out this one.

“Justice myths

Inanna and her brother Utu were regarded as the dispensers of divine justice, a role which Inanna exemplifies in several of her myths. Inanna and Ebih (ETCSL 1.3.2), otherwise known as Goddess of the Fearsome Divine Powers, is a 184-line poem written by the Akkadian poet Enheduanna describing Inanna's confrontation with Mount Ebih, a mountain in the Zagros mountain range. The poem begins with an introductory hymn praising Inanna. The goddess journeys all over the entire world, until she comes across Mount Ebih and becomes infuriated by its glorious might and natural beauty, considering its very existence as an outright affront to her own authority. She rails at Mount Ebih, shouting:

Mountain, because of your elevation, because of your height,

Because of your goodness, because of your beauty,

Because you wore a holy garment,

Because An organized(?) you,

Because you did not bring (your) nose close to the ground,

Because you did not press (your) lips in the dust.”

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7c3303  No.14513720

>>14507926

(Please read from the start)

>> So the Evil Lady and the Evil One excelled in giving Divine Justice = I’ve already talked what is Divine Justice, it’s not normal justice (page 1 228).

When you read the section of the Ebhi mountain with Inanna, you get the impression that Ebhi is not a THING = a mountain, but a person. And it’s more than obvious we are reading this story from the perspective of the Evil Clan. You can clearly see the jealousy, spite and envy of the Evil Lady, dripping out of her as she is talking about Ebhi. Whomever this Ebhi is, we know that he is tall, good looking, wears magnificent clothing (maybe a shiny armor) but this “garment” is actually HOLY = sacred = divine. And only a HOLY person can wear HOLY clothing; as in only a person with high Spiritual power can wear Holy clothes. In other words, they are talking here about another Sebetti ruler; a specific ruler whom the Evil Lady was jealous from, envied and loathed. She becomes “infuriated by his glorious might and natural beauty” = this is pure jealousy here anons, pure jealousy and envy.

The last 2 lines of this poem project Inanna’s inferiority complex towards this person. Whomever Ehbi is, he (it’s a he because the remaining Sebetti rulers are all male) didn’t bring his nose to the ground nor did his lips were pressed on the dust: this has a meaning = Ebhi didn’t bow. He was of such a high rank that he didn’t have to bow, even to the other Sebetti rulers. There are 3 people on a higher level among the Sebetti rulers:

1 – The highest is the King of kings whom everyone bowed to. I do mean everyone.

2 – The second highest is the Queen of queen whom was none other than the spouse of the great King. She was very loved by her husband.

3 – The third highest ranking royalty would be the Crown Prince; the heir to the throne, which one day would take the place of his Father and become in turn the King of kings.

She railed at Ebhi = shouted in his face, probably cursed him too. She also considers the “existence” of Ebhi as a threat = an affront to her own authority as a Sebetti ruler. This speaks volumes. Remember how the Evil Lady felt like the King of kings = her Father didn’t give her a high enough position or power? It’s because she felt inferior to someone; she also felt like she deserves more, a higher position, more authority, bigger kingdom, a more prosperous one. What could be higher than a normal Sebetti ruler’s position but lower than the position of the Royal Couple? = the Crown Prince = the next in line.

And if we read this sentence carefully, it gives the impression that the “heir” = Crown Prince didn’t exist at first, but was born much later, when Inanna grew older, maybe when she was a teen. Since she was earlier born and older, she thought she deserved to be given more power and to be given the position of Crown Princess = heirress to the throne. But why wasn’t this position given to her? Or to the other Sebetti rulers, if you think about it? Why did the Royal Couple wait for the birth of this specific child, which seemed to be the youngest among the Sebetti rulers, to name him as the Crown Prince?

From the looks of it, the other Sebetti rulers didn’t feel threatened by the birth of this royal child. Apart the Evil duo, the other Sebetti rulers didn’t feel this way towards the newborn Royal Child. The birth of this Child made the Evil Duo realize that the succession to the throne = the throne itself, was now out of their reach for good.

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7c3303  No.14513733

>>14513720

(Please read from the start)

If the Evil Duo were brother and sister (because we are suspecting an incestuous relationship between them) then, that makes the Evil One also a royal son, a possible successor to throne. I can understand the feeling of the Evil Lady since she was extremely young, maybe in her teens or late teens = since she was innocent and naïve, she was easily manipulated and exploited by the Evil One and he played on her feelings of inferiority towards their new born brother to get her to his side.

This situation make it sound like the Royal Couple had at least 2 children = the Evil One and the Evil Lady. Both were nice at first, but the Evil One turned evil on his own because of his rare illness which could not be healed or repaired. In turn, he turned what seem to be his own sister to his side = made her Evil. But what about the other Sebetti rulers?

What about the 2 other male Sebetti kings? Whom were they? Were they also the children of the Royal Couple? Or were they close relatives to the Royal Couple? = maybe the brothers of the King of kings? Or his nephews? Or his cousins? So far, I’ve managed to find one of them and that is Viracocha = my Staff-god from the Andean region. But I don’t know his special ability, nor which clan he ruled over, nor what is his “direct” connection to the Royal Couple was. What is certain about Viracocha, apart him being a GIANT, he was also against human sacrifice. Please go back and read about him and evaluate his personality. You will see, he was against the cult created by the Evil One; which means, he most probably stood with the King of kings and remained loyal to Him and the Crown Prince.

Which brings the question: how did they select the Crown Prince = next in line to the throne among the children of the King of kings? There are already 4 potential heirs to the throne of Atlantis = the throne of Heaven, so why was this newborn child selected and not the already existing Sebetti rulers?

The answer is given by the King of kings = it’s the LIGHT = His EXTREMELY HIGH SPIRITUAL POWER. Only the person with the highest and purest form of Spiritual, holy power can sit on the throne of Heaven and wears the Crown. And this Holy Spiritual Power cannot be bought, taught, acquired, grown etc. It’s something you are BORN WITH = it’s your genetic code. Each person is born with a very specific genetic code, unique to them. We get this code half/half from each of our parents. Not all children from the same parents have the same genetic code = same sequence of genes. And here, the situation is just like that. Not all the children of the King of kings had the same genetic sequence. All of the children of the King of kings had the Light in them (until the Evil Duo lost theirs by turning evil). But only ONE child of the Royal Couple had the right genetic sequence = high amount of Spiritual power, enabling him to sit on the throne in the distant future.

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a68475  No.14518864

>>14513733

(Please read from the start)

I’m saying distant future because there are indications that the Sebetti rulers along with their warriors lived for a very long time = probably hundreds of thousands of years. And this also played a part in what was going on between the Evil Duo. If they wanted to become the next heir, they could have easily killed the Crown Prince, making it look like an accident and then “hoped” and waited for the King to proclaim one of them His heir. But as long as the King of kings lived, and He lived long, He could father another “Special” child with High Spiritual power, since He lived for a very long time. And this meant the Evil Duo had to live under the rule of the King of kings for an extremely long time before any of them could possibly ascend to the throne.

That’s why the Evil Couple opted to kill the King = faster and they would make sure there won’t be additional potential heirs. Of course, they wouldn’t have stopped with eliminating the King, they were also going after the Crown Prince, despite his young age. And at the death of the Great King, the Crown Prince will be automatically the new King of kings. So he had to be eliminated as well.

Please go back to Isis and Neith, read everything I posted and what I’ve written about her. This should also include Nephthys. Horus was put in the care of Nephthys and both mother and child had to flee and hide, from Seth and his followers. This fits perfectly with everything I’ve written so far. Including how at some point, mother and child were separated for some unknown circumstances and the child = the Crown Prince was put in the care of Nephthys. This is a strong indication that the Crown Prince was very young when the Cataclysm occurred and he needed the care of an adult. When the Anzu bird left the Tree in the Epic of Gilgamesh, he left it with his “young”. As in when the ThunderBirds left, there was someone very young with them.

If I put everything together, from the moment the Crown Prince was born and he was declared as the heir to the throne of Heaven, the Evil Duo started to plot. They realized they won’t be able to take on the other Sebetti rulers and their warriors on their own = even if they united their clans to form the Horned Serpents. So they started to recruit traitors from other clans and in the same time, they started to steal the military technology from the other clans along with any other “objects” or tech which could give them an edge in the battle they knew was coming. They might have sabotaged the other clans in many ways as well. They also kept their sexual relationship a secret because they knew the others wouldn’t accept it no matter what, mostly the horror they did because they were both pedovores. They also kept their “good and nice faces” publically in order to fool others and pretend that nothing was wrong = they were plotting a coup. It took them some years to gather everything they needed, it didn’t happen in an overnight. All this time, they were getting nervous as they were seeing the Crown Prince grow and his Spiritual Power was showing more and more. This is what got Inanna to lash many times at her Father = the King of kings. It was getting harder for her to control her temper and in the same time to hide whom she became; this might be due to her addiction to Adrenochrome, I mean, it could have affected her behavior and mood as well.

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a68475  No.14518869

>>14518864

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“Inanna petitions to An, the Sumerian god of the heavens, to allow her to destroy Mount Ebih. An warns Inanna not to attack the mountain, but she ignores his warning and proceeds to attack and destroy Mount Ebih regardless. In the conclusion of the myth, she explains to Mount Ebih why she attacked it. In Sumerian poetry, the phrase "destroyer of Kur" is occasionally used as one of Inanna's epithets.”

>> Here, there are 2 possibilities:

1 – It could mean that once she lost her temper and tried to harm the Crown Prince and she got a warning from her Father.

2 – She made a request to her Father, asking him to make her the heir instead of her younger brother. But her Father refused because she did not have the requirements to fill that position. As in she didn’t have the right genetic sequence which contained a high degree of Spiritual Power. So she got angry because her Father refused to pick her as an heir and she tried to take it out on her younger brother, harm him.

At this point, I think she hated, loathed the King of kings and the Crown Prince to her bones. She hated both of them more than anyone could ever imagine. After the Cataclysm and the death of the Evil One, she and her followers = the Evil Clan lost their Spiritual Light and that Spiritual power she was born with turned into Darkness. It’s the reason why we see them with that Dark thing floating around them; while the warriors of the Light and the other Sebetti Clans kept that Light. This is how the descendants of the Evil Couple and that Evil Clan became the children of Darkness. While the descendants of the other Clans, mostly the descendants of the Crown Prince became the Children of Light. The hate and loathing the Evil Lady and her clan felt towards the other Sebettis, mostly the Crown Prince and the King of kings grew more and more after the Cataclysm. This dark hatred was transmitted to their descendants and they were taught to be aware of the White Knight. Till this day, the children of Darkness do (((their))) outmost best to kill and destroy the children of the Light. (((They))) hate all humans for rejecting (((them))), not accepting their pedovore way of life, evil way of life. But above all, (((they))) hate the most the Children of the Light.

The Evil Duo did earn the epithet of “destroyer”, regardless if Kur meant the Earth, Atlantis or anything else because they were the ones whom triggered the Cataclysm along with the coup plotters and their warriors.Because of their greed and madness, loads of innocents died in the Cataclysm.

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0247e1  No.14524665

>>14518869

(Please read from the start)

“The poem Inanna and Shukaletuda (ETCSL 1.3.3) begins with a hymn to Inanna, praising her as the planet Venus. It then introduces Shukaletuda, a gardener who is terrible at his job because he had "pulled them out by the roots and destroyed them". All of his plants die, except for one poplar tree. Shukaletuda prays to the gods for guidance in his work. To his surprise, the goddess Inanna sees his one poplar tree and decides to rest under the shade of its branches. Shukaletuda removes her clothes and rapes Inanna while she sleeps. When the goddess wakes up and realizes she has been violated, she becomes furious and determines to bring her attacker to justice.] In a fit of rage, Inanna unleashes horrible plagues upon the Earth, turning water into blood. Shukaletuda, terrified for his life, pleads his father for advice on how to escape Inanna's wrath. His father tells him to hide in the city, amongst the hordes of people, where he will hopefully blend in. Inanna searches the mountains of the East for her attacker, but is not able to find him. She then releases a series of storms and closes all roads to the city, but is still unable to find Shukaletuda, so she asks Enki to help her find him, threatening to leave her temple in Uruk if he does not. Enki consents and Inanna flies "across the sky like a rainbow". Inanna finally locates Shukaletuda, who vainly attempts to invent excuses for his crime against her. Inanna rejects these excuses and kills him. Theology professor Jeffrey Cooley has cited the story of Shukaletuda as a Sumerian astral myth, arguing that the movements of Inanna in the story correspond with the movements of the planet Venus. He has also stated that, while Shukaletuda was praying to the goddess, he may have been looking toward Venus on the horizon.”

>> This one’s meaning depends on whom Shukaletuda is? I bet it’s not the real name of the person, but an epithet or a descriptive; we will never know the real names, mostly of the Sebetti rulers. There are 3 options for interpretation here, depending on whom Shukaletuda is:

1 - If Shukaletuda is the Evil One, then this story happened before the Cataclysm.

2 - If Shukaletuda is one of the Horned Serpent lieutenants then this might have most probably happened after the Cataclysm as she took many lovers after the death of the Evil One.

3 – There is this possibility of the situation being “à cheval” between before and after the Cataclysm. This might have started with the Evil One being (most probably) the one whom raped Inanna at first when she was just a naïve and innocent lady. She went to get justice in the Sebetti “court” but since the Evil One is the grand master of lies, he might have wiggled his way out of this. The Evil One played with her mind = this is where she might have developed the Stockholm syndrome. She then fell into his trap as he “persuaded” her to get on his side. He took advantage of the already existing cracks between her and her Father and exploited the situation to break their relationship, making her thirsty for power and hating her parents and her brother at the same time. In her wrath she unleashes a calamity = maybe the cataclysm which killed most of the people on Earth = turning water into blood. But she also abandons the Evil One which ends up in his death. She didn’t fight alongside him for some reason; maybe because she was busy stealing the important objects (maybe the “mes”). Or she was afraid.

I don’t know which option it is anons. All are possible. Everything depends on the identity of Shukaletuda, as I’ve said before.

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0247e1  No.14524666

>>14524665

(Please read from the start)

“The text of the poem Inanna and Bilulu (ETCSL 1.4.4), discovered at Nippur, is badly mutilated and scholars have interpreted it in a number of different ways. The beginning of the poem is mostly destroyed, but seems to be a lament. The intelligible part of the poem describes Inanna pining after her husband Dumuzid, who is in the steppe watching his flocks. Inanna sets out to find him. After this, a large portion of the text is missing. When the story resumes, Inanna is being told that Dumuzid has been murdered. Inanna discovers that the old bandit woman Bilulu and her son Girgire are responsible. She travels along the road to Edenlila and stops at an inn, where she finds the two murderers. Inanna stands on top of a stooland transforms Bilulu into "the waterskin that men carry in the desert", forcing her to pour the funerary libations for Dumuzid.”

>> This text is lacking big time; loads of missing parts, so it’s very tricky and hard to work with it. Here, there is something funny = she cared so much of her husband that she “abandoned” him / allowed him to go to the underworld to replace her – as we’ve talked about before. Chuckles! But she then tracks down the person whom killed him and avenge him. Does any of this make sense to the reader? If she cared so much about her husband then she shouldn’t have let him replace her in the first place. But then, she makes a 180 and switches into the loving and caring wife which wanted to avenge his death.

Since this text is badly damaged, I’m going to be nice and say Main Stream History made a mistake in their interpretation. Anons shouldn’t forget this tale was written by the Evil Clan since the bias towards Inanna is very obvious.

We have a couple of interesting details though:

1 – The story is told by the Evil Clan as a “murder” = the Evil One was murdered. Meaning he didn’t have a “normal” death but was killed by someone evil. It’s the same rhetoric used when they were justifying the murder of Osiris by Seth = same ideology of making the good look bad and the bad look good. Here, (((they))) are calling the elimination of the Evil One by the warriors of the Light a murder. That’s (((their))) side of the story.

2 – Somehow, the Evil Lady managed to identify the murderer of her beloved husband (whom she let die in her place and abandoned him) as being a WOMEN = whom is portrayed as a thief with a son. Again, this is how the Evil Clan tell (((their))) story, (((their))) view. Then Inanna unleashed the Divine punishment on Earth = Cataclysm as punishment for the death of her husband; as we talked about before.

Whom is this woman? = it’s Neith, the Queen of queens.Whom is the son of this woman? = the Crown Prince, still very young, as I’ve said before. Why is this woman = Neith called a THIEF? = because in her mind, in her twisted, perverted mind, the Evil Lady think the throne of Heaven is rightfully hers. And it’s the warriors of the Light, with the Queen of queens as their leader whom defended the throne and its rightful heir = the Crown Prince. But for the Evil Lady, the warriors of the Light along with Neith STOLE what is rightfully hers = the throne. This is why (((they))) said in this story that a thief, a female thief, killed Inanna’s husband.

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0247e1  No.14524669

>>14524666

(Please read from the start)

This tale is a confirmation of what we read about Isis fleeing with Horus from Seth and his followers. Here, Inanna went after both mother and child and “supposedly punished” the murder of her beloved husband. This is (((their))) version of the events = Inanna is always the winner, she always come on top, she never loses. But we know, that there was a confrontation between Neith and the Evil Lady which lasted some time. So no….Inanna didn’t punish the one whom killed her husband in one swift strike.

But (((they))) don’t paint (((their))) matriarch in a bad light, so (((they))) distorted the truth and said that Inanna punished the culprit. Just to satisfy (((their))) ego. What is amazing here is that (((they))) lied and (((they))) are the first ones to believe in this lie. (((They))) rather live in fantasy, in illusion than face the hard, bitter reality of (((their))) queen and mother of demons being defeated by the warriors of the Light. Isn’t this what we keep on seeing in many Hollywood movies or productions, like the series called Lucifer (page 1 153)? We saw there, the Archangel Michael kneeling, about to be decapitated by Lucifer. But, the truth is the other way around and it was Lucifer whom got his head chopped off by most probably the Archangel Michael. Hasn’t anyone, noticed how many MIKE or MICHAEL we have around Potus and in the fight against the Bloodlines? You think this is all a coincidence. These people, including Potus, were all selected by the Light to play a specific part in all that is taking place right now.

In most of the stories about Inanna so far, we see her use some type of transportation. Sometimes it’s said directly, but sometimes it’s insinuated, that this transportation could fly. Sometimes the reader gets the impression she has boarded something like a plane. Sometimes you get the impression she is using her personal Jet suit armor to fly. Regardless of what she used, you can always detect this idea of FLIGHT being present under the surface of these stories about Inanna, at least most of them anyway.

“Descent into the underworld

Two different versions of the story of Inanna/Ishtar's descent into the underworld have survived: a Sumerian version dating to the Third Dynasty of Ur (circa 2112 BC – 2004 BC) (ETCSL 1.4.1) and a clearly derivative Akkadian version from the early second millennium BC. The Sumerian version of the story is nearly three times the length of the later Akkadian version and contains much greater detail.”

>> I’m personally not interested in the story of the “Descent into the underworld” because it never brought anything new. It didn’t bring anything that I already didn’t know through archaeology. I’m going to let anons, read it and make tiny few comments. The events told happened mostly after the coup failed.

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0247e1  No.14529625

>>14524669

(Please read from the start)

“Sumerian version

In Sumerian religion, the Kur was conceived of as a dark, dreary cavern located deep underground; life there was envisioned as "a shadowy version of life on earth". It was ruled by Inanna's sister, the goddess Ereshkigal. Before leaving, Inanna instructs her minister and servant Ninshubur to plead with the deities Enlil, Nanna, Anu, and Enki to rescue her if she does not return after three days. The laws of the underworld dictate that, with the exception of appointed messengers, those who enter it may never leave. Inanna dresses elaborately for the visit; she wears a turban, wig, lapis lazuli necklace, beads upon her breast, the 'pala dress' (the ladyship garment), mascara, a pectoral, and golden ring, and holds a lapis lazuli measuring rod. Each garment is a representation of a powerful me she possesses.

Inanna pounds on the gates of the underworld, demanding to be let in. The gatekeeper Neti asks her why she has come and Inanna replies that she wishes to attend the funeral rites of Gugalanna, the "husband of my elder sister Ereshkigal". Neti reports this to Ereshkigal, who tells him: "Bolt the seven gates of the underworld. Then, one by one, open each gate a crack. Let Inanna enter. As she enters, remove her royal garments." Perhaps Inanna's garments, unsuitable for a funeral, along with Inanna's haughty behavior, make Ereshkigal suspicious. Following Ereshkigal's instructions, Neti tells Inanna she may enter the first gate of the underworld, but she must hand over her lapis lazuli measuring rod. She asks why, and is told, "It is just the ways of the underworld." She obliges and passes through. Inanna passes through a total of seven gates, at each one removing a piece of clothing or jewelry she had been wearing at the start of her journey, thus stripping her of her power. When she arrives in front of her sister, she is naked.

After she had crouched down and had her clothes removed, they were carried away. Then she made her sister Erec-ki-gala rise from her throne, and instead she sat on her throne. The Anna, the seven judges, rendered their decision against her. They looked at her – it was the look of death. They spoke to her – it was the speech of anger. They shouted at her – it was the shout of heavy guilt. The afflicted woman was turned into a corpse. And the corpse was hung on a hook.”

>> The garments Inanna wore are most probably had something to do with her multi-morph armor, mostly the blasters; compare with the story of Humbaba (starting page 951) and how he was tricked by Gilgamesh to remove slowly the 7 auras he had. The 7 gates and the 7 judges are the Sebetti rulers and their territories. But since the Evil Couple are each one Sebetti and the King of kings was murdered, so I think there is something wrong with the text here. Or they might be simply indicating that the Evil Lady was being judged in the Sebetti court by the remaining Sebetti rulers. Just take a look how the other Sebetti rulers reacted towards the Evil Lady: they shouted at her, they were speaking with anger and they had the look of death in their eyes towards her. This is understandable looking at the scope of her crimes; apart the incest, being a pedovore, she also plotted to kill her own Father to take the throne of Heaven and she literally blew up the entire planet = the Cataclysm. If all of this didn’t EARN her the anger of the other Sebetti rulers then I don’t know what will; and she EARNED the death sentence.

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0247e1  No.14529635

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>>14529625

(Please read from the start)

“Three days and three nights pass, and Ninshubur, following instructions, goes to the temples of Enlil, Nanna, An, and Enki, and pleads with each of them to rescue Inanna. The first three deities refuse, saying Inanna's fate is her own fault, but Enki is deeply troubled and agrees to help. He creates two sexless figures named gala-tura and the kur-jara from the dirt under the fingernails of two of his fingers. He instructs them to appease Ereshkigal and, when she asks them what they want, ask for the corpse of Inanna, which they must sprinkle with the food and water of life. When they come before Ereshkigal, she is in agony like a woman giving birth. She offers them whatever they want, including life-giving rivers of water and fields of grain, if they can relieve her, but they refuse all of her offers and ask only for Inanna's corpse. The gala-tura and the kur-jara sprinkle Inanna's corpse with the food and water of life and revive her. Galla demons sent by Ereshkigal follow Inanna out of the underworld, insisting that someone else must be taken to the underworld as Inanna's replacement. They first come upon Ninshubur and attempt to take her, but Inanna stops them, insisting that Ninshubur is her loyal servant and that she had rightfully mourned for her while she was in the underworld. They next come upon Shara, Inanna's beautician, who is still in mourning. The demons attempt to take him, but Inanna insists that they may not, because he had also mourned for her. The third person they come upon is Lulal, who is also in mourning. The demons try to take him, but Inanna stops them once again.”

>> Sprinkling the body of Inanna with the food and water of life means human blood and human flesh = remember these are pedovores.

“Finally, they come upon Dumuzid, Inanna's husband. Despite Inanna's fate, and in contrast to the other individuals who were properly mourning her, Dumuzid is lavishly clothed and resting beneath a tree, or upon her throne, entertained by slave-girls. Inanna, displeased, decrees that the galla shall take him. The galla then drag Dumuzid down to the underworld. Another text known as Dumuzid's Dream (ETCSL 1.4.3) describes Dumuzid's repeated attempts to evade capture by the galla demons, an effort in which he is aided by the sun-god Utu.”

>> Please take a look anons at the imprint of the Sumerian Cyclinder Seal showing Dumuzid supposedly being tortured by the Galla. Look closely to these Galla: Some are holding staffs, which some have a snake shape = electricity weapon. One is clearly standing on a Feline (pointing to land/country/kingdom) while holding what looks like weapon number 6 from the bronze Plaque of the Hells – page 965. He is also sporting a triple horned crown, which could indicate he belongs to one of the horned Sebetti clans. Was this hat worn by some of the multi-morphs? We also have a cuffed person whom is also wearing a triple horned crown. The most mysterious object is what looks like a grid pattern (in black); I have no idea what that could be.

What is clear here anons, is the presence of persons wearing the triple horned crown. One is standing on a Feline indicating they come from kingdom/land which had it as heraldic animal as a Lion = same thing we see with Inanna (but over there, (((they))) told us the Lion is one of her symbols, which is a total lie). The other person wearing a triple horned crown has restraints = cuffs on both his hands and feet. This is clearly a prisoner here. As for the grid pattern, it could be a cage of some sort and a person is being put in it….maybe a prison cell, I don’t know.

What I know, this scene is not exactly what we are being told it is. This is not simply Dumuzid being captured or tortured by the Galla. There is more than one prisoner here and there are more than one person wearing a triple horned crown. This is not what we think it is, there is more going on here than what is said.

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7f67b2  No.14534493

>>14529635

(Please read from the start)

“In the Sumerian poem The Return of Dumuzid, which begins where The Dream of Dumuzid ends, Dumuzid's sister Geshtinanna laments continually for days and nights over Dumuzid's death, joined by Inanna, who has apparently experienced a change of heart, and Sirtur, Dumuzid's mother. The three goddesses mourn continually until a fly reveals to Inanna the location of her husband. Together, Inanna and Geshtinanna go to the place where the fly has told them they will find Dumuzid. They find him there and Inanna decrees that, from that point onwards, Dumuzid will spend half of the year with her sister Ereshkigal in the underworld and the other half of the year in Heaven with her, while his sister Geshtinanna takes his place in the underworld.

Akkadian version

The Akkadian version begins with Ishtar approaching the gates of the underworld and demanding the gatekeeper to let her in:

If you do not open the gate for me to come in,

I shall smash the door and shatter the bolt,

I shall smash the doorpost and overturn the doors,

I shall raise up the dead and they shall eat the living:

And the dead shall outnumber the living!”

>> LoL! I never understood from where the zombie idea landed in Hollywood. Now I understand. This is so funny. And to think (((they))) made all of these movies out from the Evil Lady’s behavior. What an inspiration she must have been.

“The gatekeeper (whose name is not given in the Akkadian version) hurries to tell Ereshkigal of Ishtar's arrival. Ereshkigal orders him to let Ishtar enter, but tells him to "treat her according to the ancient rites".The gatekeeper lets Ishtar into the underworld, opening one gate at a time. At each gate, Ishtar is forced to shed one article of clothing. When she finally passes the seventh gate, she is naked. In a rage, Ishtar throws herself at Ereshkigal, but Ereshkigal orders her servant Namtar to imprison Ishtar and unleash sixty diseases against her.

After Ishtar descends to the underworld, all sexual activity ceases on earth. The god Papsukkal, the Akkadian counterpart to Ninshubur, reports the situation to Ea, the god of wisdom and culture. Ea creates an androgynous being called Asu-shu-namir and sends them to Ereshkigal, telling them to invoke "the name of the great gods" against her and to ask for the bag containing the waters of life. Ereshkigal becomes enraged when she hears Asu-shu-namir's demand, but she is forced to give them the water of life. Asu-shu-namir sprinkles Ishtar with this water, reviving her. Then, Ishtar passes back through the seven gates, receiving one article of clothing back at each gate, and exiting the final gate fully clothed.”

>> Now that’s a very different ending we’ve got with the Akkadian version. See how mutation happens?! And the Akkadian is supposed to be the closest to the Sumerian version, so imagine how far off the Assyrian and the Babylonian would be from the original story. For (((them))) the “water of life” is human blood. It’s called that way because of the illness of the Evil One. Fresh human blood is the only thing that can sustain him, in a more or less “normal” state.

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7f67b2  No.14534504

>>14534493

(Please read from the start)

“Interpretations in modern assyriology

Dina Katz, an authority on Sumerian afterlife beliefs and funerary customs, considers the narrative of Inanna's descent to be a combination of two distinct preexisting traditions rooted in broader context of Mesopotamian religion:

• one where Inanna was only able to leave the underworld with the help of Enki's trick, with no mention of the possibility of finding a substitute. This part of the myth belongs to the genre of myths about deities struggling to obtain power, glory etc. (such as Lugal-e or Enuma Elish), and served as a representation of Inanna's character as a personification of a periodically vanishing astral body. According to Katz, the fact that Inanna's instructions to Ninshubur contain a correct prediction of her eventual fate, including the exact means of her rescue, show that the purpose of this composition was simply highlighing Inanna's ability to traverse both the heavens and the underworld, much like how Venus was able to rise over and over again. She also points out Inanna's return has parallels in some Udug-hul incantations.

• Another which was simply one of the many myths about the death of Dumuzi (such as Dumuzi’s Dream or Inana and Bilulu; in these myths Inanna isn't to blame for his death), tied to his role as an embodiment of vegetation. She considers it possible that the connection between the two parts of the narrative was meant to mirror some well attested healing rituals which required a symbolic substitute of the person being treated.

Katz also notes that the Sumerian version of the myth is not concerned with matters of fertility, and points out any references to it (eg. to nature being infertile while Ishtar is dead) were only added in later Akkadian translations; so was the description of Tammuz's funeral. The purpose of these changes was likely to make the myth closer to cultic traditions linked to Tammuz, namely the annual mourning of his death followed by celebration of a temporary return. It's notable that known many copies of the later versions of the myth come from Assyrian cities which were known for their veneration of Tammuz, such as Ashur and Nineveh.”

>> I do not agree with everything this lady said apart 1 thing: this story is clearly a composite story made of at least 2 parts. There is a fracture in the flow of the story, either the Sumerian or Akkadian version. Either these are fragments put together while some parts are intentionally omitted from the original storyline. Or these are 2 stories glued together, put together to make them sound as one.

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621cd2  No.14539704

>>14534504

(Please read from the start)

“Other interpretations

A number of less scholarly interpretations of the myth arose through the 20th century, many of them rooted in the tradition of Jungian analysis rather than assyriology.

Diane Wolkstein interprets the myth as a union between Inanna and her own "dark side": her twin sister-self, Ereshkigal. When Inanna ascends from the underworld, it is through Ereshkigal's powers, but, while Inanna is in the underworld, it is Ereshkigal who apparently takes on the powers of fertility. The poem ends with a line in praise, not of Inanna, but of Ereshkigal. Wolkstein interprets the narrative as a praise-poem dedicated to the more negative aspects of Inanna's domain, symbolic of an acceptance of the necessity of death in order to facilitate the continuance of life. It should be pointed out that cultic texts such as god lists do not associate Ereshkigal and Inanna with each other: the former doesn't belong to the circle of Inanna's hyposthases and attendants, but to a grouping of underworld gods (Ninazu, Ningishzida, Inshushinak, Tishpak, etc.) in the famous An-Anum god list; and her "alter egos" in various god lists were similar foreign deities(Allani, Lelwani etc.), not Inanna.”

>> Wolkstein has a point when she says we are probably dealing with different aspects of the Evil Lady. I didn’t look into it, it’s up to those whom are interested in this story.

“Joseph Campbell interpreted the myth as a tale about the psychological power of a descent into the unconscious, the realization of one's own strength through an episode of seeming powerlessness, and the acceptance of one's own negative qualities.

Conversely, philosopher Joshua Mark argues that the most likely moral intended by the original author of the Descent of Inanna is that there are always consequences for one's actions: "The Descent of Inanna, then, about one of the gods behaving badly and other gods and mortals having to suffer for that behavior, would have given to an ancient listener the same basic understanding anyone today would take from an account of a tragic accident caused by someone’s negligence or poor judgment: that, sometimes, life is just not fair."”

>> I disagree with both J. Campbell and J. Mark interpretations.

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621cd2  No.14539710

>>14539704

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“Later myths

Epic of Gilgamesh

In the Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, Ishtar appears to Gilgamesh after he and his companion Enkidu have returned to Uruk from defeating the ogre Humbaba and demands Gilgamesh to become her consort. Gilgamesh refuses her, pointing out that all of her previous lovers have suffered:

Listen to me while I tell the tale of your lovers. There was Tammuz, the lover of your youth, for him you decreed wailing, year after year. You loved the many-coloured Lilac-breasted Roller, but still you struck and broke his wing […] You have loved the lion tremendous in strength: seven pits you dug for him, and seven. You have loved the stallion magnificent in battle, and for him you decreed the whip and spur and a thong […] You have loved the shepherd of the flock; he made meal-cake for you day after day, he killed kids for your sake. You struck and turned him into a wolf; now his own herd-boys chase him away, his own hounds worry his flanks.”

>> This part is another treasure of information:

1 – Tammuz = the Evil One was the lover of the Evil Lady when she was young. Its fits perfectly with her naïve and innocent side, since she is that age when the Evil One seduced her and converted her to his side. It seems now, when Gilgamesh is supposedly talking with her, the Evil Lady had gotten older and she mourned for many years the death of the Evil One.

2 – It’s hard to know whom the “many-coloured Lilac-breasted Roller” is. It can be a ThunderBird warrior, or it can be the head of the ThunderBirds, or it can be a multi-morph warrior. It can also be a Lamassu warrior = anyone with wings.

3 – The lion here is obviously someone from the Feline Clan…but…read carefully = she dug a pit for him; as in she killed him. And the number 7 is mentioned twice. Is this indicating/ pointing to the murder of the King of kings? Is Gilgamesh telling her that ONCE you loved your Father, the Great King, but then you plotted against Him and you killed Him?

I think this is highly possible, mostly if we combine this sentence with the one before it = the previous sentence. Why? Because I think in the previous sentence Gilgamesh might be talking about the Crown Prince, her younger brother. It is said that she broke the wings of her brother = he is not dead, but she tried to harm him. This fits perfectly with what we’ve read before and how Isis had to flee with baby Horus from Seth and his followers. If my interpretation is correct, then we just found the 2 heraldic animals of the King of kings = the Feline Sebetti. And the Crown Prince’s = the ThunderBirds.

4 – The Stallion could be a heraldic animal of a vassal clan or some type of sub-symbol of one of the Sebetti rulers, like how we have the Fish men for the King of kings and the Spider for the Queen of queens. So this “Stallion” clan member got the whip and sounds like he was tortured by Inanna.

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621cd2  No.14539721

>>14539710

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5 – The Shepard of her flock can have 2 possible meanings:

A – We are talking again about the Evil One whom used to sacrifice and consume children along with her. The other Sebetti clans, including the rulers, rejected this and saw the Evil Couple as traitors and evil and they were chased down by the other Clans; which is what we are seeing in this thread so far. The Evil One was a Sheppard = guardian of the flock when he was still good; he was supposed to protect the people. But when his illness showed up and he turned Evil, he became a wolf preying on the people.

B – The Evil Lady had many lovers after the death of the Evil One. One of them might have belonged to the Wolf Clan and he was acting like a servant for her = bringing sacrifices = children for her to consume. This was found out by the other warriors and he was chased down by them.

“Infuriated by Gilgamesh's refusal, Ishtar goes to heaven and tells her father Anu that Gilgamesh has insulted her. Anu asks her why she is complaining to him instead of confronting Gilgamesh herself. Ishtar demands that Anu give her the Bull of Heaven and swears that if he does not give it to her, she will "break in the doors of hell and smash the bolts; there will be confusion [i.e., mixing] of people, those above with those from the lower depths. I shall bring up the dead to eat food like the living; and the hosts of the dead will outnumber the living.”

>> This has nothing to do with Gilgamesh and his refusal for Inanna. Here the Evil Lady is demanding the Seat of the Queen of queens = the throne of her mother. She threatened her Father to MIX those whom are living BELOW and those whom are living ABOVE. Do you remember there was a Floating mountain mentioned in the Native American ThunderBird tale? Is that the ABOVE and we = on the surface of the Earth are the BELOW?

I think the Evil Lady threatened her Father to kill everyone = mixing the living and the dead = bringing Apocalypse on Earth. Mixing the people from Above with the people of BELOW as in she will bring down whatever the LAND or PLACE was ABOVE. This is indicating that the Sebetti rulers and their warriors didn’t live on the surface of the Earth like the people, but they lived on something that was floating or flying above Earth, maybe in the sky.

“Anu gives Ishtar the Bull of Heaven, and Ishtar sends it to attack Gilgamesh and his friend Enkidu. Gilgamesh and Enkidu kill the Bull and offer its heart to the sun-god Shamash. While Gilgamesh and Enkidu are resting, Ishtar stands up on the walls of Uruk and curses Gilgamesh. Enkidu tears off the Bull's right thigh and throws it in Ishtar's face, saying, "If I could lay my hands on you, it is this I should do to you, and lash your entrails to your side." (Enkidu later dies for this impiety.) Ishtar calls together "the crimped courtesans, prostitutes and harlots"and orders them to mourn for the Bull of Heaven. Meanwhile, Gilgamesh holds a celebration over the Bull of Heaven's defeat.”

>> Enkidu must have had one heck of a strength to be able to rip that bull’s thigh and one heck of a throw to be able to throw that BIG thigh of the Lamassu THAT HIGH = on top of the wall where Inanna was standing. If you are gullible you will believe this to have had happened. But it didn’t, since we know that the BULL of Heaven = Neith = the Queen of queens didn’t die and she survived, not just from being murdered, but from the Cataclysm as well. So this is all made up, or it’s a part talking about something else and it was inserted here. But I think this is all made up just to inflate (((their))) ego and make it sound as if the Evil Lady got rid of the Queen of queens.

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621cd2  No.14539727

>>14539721

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“Later in the epic, Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh the story of the Great Flood, which was sent by the god Enlil to annihilate all life on earth because the humans, who were vastly overpopulated, made too much noise and prevented him from sleeping. Utnapishtim tells how, when the flood came, Ishtar wept and mourned over the destruction of humanity, alongside the Anunnaki. Later, after the flood subsides, Utnapishtim makes an offering to the gods. Ishtar appears to Utnapishtim wearing a lapis lazuli necklace with beads shaped like flies and tells him that Enlil never discussed the flood with any of the other gods. She swears him that she will never allow Enlil to cause another flood and declares her lapis lazuli necklace a sign of her oath. Ishtar invites all the gods except for Enlil to gather around the offering and enjoy.”

>> This part is most probably made up too and inserted later on to the story. There are 2 notables though:

1 – The Earth was overpopulated this is why the coup plotters wanted to kill everyone. (((They))) are admitting (((they))) were the ones whom caused the Cataclysm. It’s the same Agenda nowadays Bloodlines have and the Covid plandemic was a redo. Bill Gates, Prince Charles and many of (((them))) talked about this openly many times.

2 – What’s the deal with the flies, either in this tale or in the tale where a fly tells Inanna where Dumuzid’s body is? Flies come from rotten food or from rotting human bodies. I better stop here and not go further in my thoughts.

“Other tales

A myth about the chilhood of the god Ishum, viewed as a son of Shamash, describes Ishtar seemingly temporarily taking care of him, and possibly expressing annoyance at that situation.”

>> Of course the Evil Lady would be annoyed of taking care of a child because first she is a queen and second she likes to eat children, not take care of them.

“In a pseudepigraphical Neo-Assyrian text written in the seventh century BCE, but which claims to be the autobiography of Sargon of Akkad, Ishtar is claimed to have appeared to Sargon "surrounded by a cloud of doves" while he was working as a gardener for Akki, the drawer of the water. Ishtar then proclaimed Sargon her lover and allowed him to become the ruler of Sumer and Akkad.”

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5d52be  No.14545077

>>14539727

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>> Look at the late date anons. I think this is a figurative story to hint or claim the ancestry of Sargon and to justify why he ruled. Remember Naram-Sin? I think Sargon and his descendants are most possibly direct bloodline of the Evil Lady (or at least this is what they are claiming).

“In Hurro-Hittite texts the logogram dISHTAR denotes the goddess Šauška, who was identified with Ishtar in god lists and similar documents as well and influenced the development of the late Assyrian cult of Ishtar of Nineveh according to hittitologist Gary Beckman. She plays a prominent role in the Hurrian myths of the Kumarbi cycle.”

>> Remember, the Hittites are the bridge between Europe and the Middle East civilizations.

“Later influence

In antiquity

The cult of Inanna/Ishtar may have been introduced to the Kingdom of Judah during the reign of King Manasseh and, although Inanna herself is not directly mentioned in the Bible by name, the Old Testament contains numerous allusions to her cult. Jeremiah 7:18 and Jeremiah 44:15–19 mention "the Queen of Heaven", who is probably a syncretism of Inanna/Ishtar and the West Semitic goddess Astarte. Jeremiah states that the Queen of Heaven was worshipped by women who baked cakes for her.”

>> Remember the artifacts on page 983? ^_^ it was not Hathor, nor Isis. The Cult of the Evil Lady = Inanna or whatever you want to call her is very ancient in Israel. Just follow the sacred prostitution practice and you will know. Funny how the Jewish women used to bake cakes for Lilith and for Inanna. I’m sure it’s a coincidence. If anyone bothers to search, they will find artifacts from different eras with a sexual lady depicted on them. If anyone bothers that is. And you will be “told” it’s an unidentified deity or it’s a Phoenician/ Canaanite mysterious deity, never admiting it’s the Evil Lady related to Judaism and to Inanna.

“The Song of Songs bears strong similarities to the Sumerian love poems involving Inanna and Dumuzid, particularly in its usage of natural symbolism to represent the lovers' physicality. Song of Songs 6:10 Ezekiel 8:14 mentions Inanna's husband Dumuzid under his later East Semitic name Tammuz and describes a group of women mourning Tammuz's death while sitting near the north gate of the Temple in Jerusalem.”

>> And the Sheep still believe the Bible isn’t tampered with and NOT edited. This is a very good example how “such parts” are inserted in the edited Bible.

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5d52be  No.14545087

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>>14545077

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“The cult of Inanna/Ishtar also heavily influenced the cult of the Phoenician goddess Astarte. The Phoenicians introduced Astarte to the Greek islands of Cyprus and Cythera, where she either gave rise to or heavily influenced the Greek goddess Aphrodite. Aphrodite took on Inanna/Ishtar's associations with sexuality and procreation. Furthermore, she was known as Ourania (Οὐρανία), which means "heavenly", a title corresponding to Inanna's role as the Queen of Heaven.”

>> Let me get this straight. So far the Evil Lady showed up chronologically in (from oldest place to the newest):

A –The Taurus mountain range.

B – North of Syria & Mesopotamia (including Judaism & Mysterious Northern Syrian Goddess)

C – Hittite Empire & rest of Asia Minor.

D – Syria, Jordan & Israel (including Canaanites)

E – Phoenicia & Greece.

F – Carthage & Rome.

And yet, miraculously, when Qteam posts this picture about crazy Gloria Vanderbilt witch, everyone, including anons, go bunkers and say the Phoenicians sacrifice children and eat them = the pedovores. Amazing! Truly amazing. I still don’t understand why everyone ONLY attacked the Phoenicians but not the other cultures/civilizations mentioned just above. Why are the Phoenicians the SOLE responsible ones of this pedovore cult of the Evil Lady, while it didn’t even start with them; while MANY others also had this same cult under a different name? Am I the only one whom thinks there is something wrong here? Why all the focus on the Phoenicians as being the guilty ones for this cult, while it was practiced by others as well?

And to make it laughable, this cult didn’t even originated from Phoenicia. Tanit is a mutated form of Ishtar, Inanna, Astarte including Lilith. And I’ve managed, through archaeological artifacts, to retrace it to the oldest place it showed up = Taurus mountain range = just above Syria/Iraq borders on the map. Take a look at the artifacts page 983, Burney relief, Tanit symbol etc. Check all the archaeological artifacts, ALL of them, representing the Evil Lady and you will be able to see for yourselves the chronology of it all, you will be able to reconstruct where it all started and where it reached last.

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5d52be  No.14545094

>>14545087

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Why all the HATE directed ONLY towards the PHOENICIANS? Can someone please explain to me why everyone is usually innocent until proven guilty, but the Phoenicians are the ONLY ONES whom are guilty until proven innocent? I’m all for treating everyone equally and fairly. Either we pin the blame on everyone or everyone is innocent, including the Phoenicians.

Whom controls the Media? Whom controls the printing? Whom controls the universities and the “experts”?

Amazingly, when reading Lilith, which is the Evil Lady in Judaism, we got to know that SHE attacked the Phoenician City-States. Now can anyone explain to me why the most evil lady on Earth would attack her people? If the Phoenicians were sacrificing children, eating them, this makes them her followers, her people, her clan; and yet, she attacked them. And it was Neith = the Queen of queens, whom had to leave the soil of Ancient Egypt and confront the Evil Lady = battle her in order to repeal her from the Phoenician City-States. Th confrontation lasted for some time. During this time, the cult of the Evil Lady was spreading. All of these events happened way before 3000 BC.

If the Phoenicians were Inanna’s people = the followers of the Evil Lady, why would she attack them and try to harm them? Would a Sebetti queen bother go there IN PERSON to destroy her own followers? She is a queen, she has an army at her service, and yet, the situation is so important that she herself decided to go destroy the Phoenician City-States. Do you destroy a follower or an enemy?

The cult of the Evil Lady didn’t get in Greece exclusively through Phoenicia. It got there through the migration of the Hittites as well.

The next section is for reading, I will comment on the Greeks when I reach them:

“Early artistic and literary portrayals of Aphrodite are extremely similar to Inanna/Ishtar. Aphrodite was also a warrior goddess; the second-century AD Greek geographer Pausanias records that, in Sparta, Aphrodite was worshipped as Aphrodite Areia, which means "warlike". He also mentions that Aphrodite's most ancient cult statues in Sparta and on Cythera showed her bearing arms. Modern scholars note that Aphrodite's warrior-goddess aspects appear in the oldest strata of her worship[ and see it as an indication of her Near Eastern origins. Aphrodite also absorbed Ishtar's association with doves, which were sacrificed to her alone. The Greek word for "dove" was peristerá, which may be derived from the Semitic phrase peraḥ Ištar, meaning "bird of Ishtar".The myth of Aphrodite and Adonis is derived from the story of Inanna and Dumuzid.”

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5d52be  No.14545097

>>14545094

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“Classical scholar Charles Penglase has written that Athena, the Greek goddess of wisdom and defensive warfare, resembles Inanna's role as a "terrifying warrior goddess". Others have noted that the birth of Athena from the head of her father Zeus could be derived from Inanna's descent into and return from the Underworld. However, as noted by Gary Beckman, a rather direct parallel to Athena's birth is found in the Hurrian Kumarbi cycle, where Teshub is born from the surgically split skull of Kumarbi, rather than in any Inanna myths.”

>> Athena is NOT associated to Ishtar/ Inanna/ the Evil Lady. This is incorrect.

“The cult of Inanna may also have influenced the deities Ainina and Danina of the Caucasian Iberians mentioned by the medieval Georgian Chronicles. Anthropologist Kevin Tuite argues that the Georgian goddess Dali was also influenced by Inanna, noting that both Dali and Inanna were associated with the morning star,[ both were characteristically depicted nude, (but note that the "naked goddess" motif in Mesopotamian art in most cases cannot be Ishtar, and the goddess most consistently depicted as naked is Shala, a weather goddess unrelated to Ishtar) both were associated with gold jewelry, both sexually preyed on mortal men, both were associated with human and animal fertility, (note however that Assyriologist Dina Katz pointed out the references to fertility in later versions of the underworld descent myth are more likely to be connected to Tammuz than Ishtar) and both had ambiguous natures as sexually attractive, but dangerous, women.”

>> The Armenian Anahid is not mentioned as a form of the Evil Lady. I’m no expert for the next part, so I’m going to shut up and only read.

“Asko Parpola considers it possible that Hindu goddess Durga may also have been influenced by Inanna. Like Inanna, Durga was envisioned as a warrior goddess with a fierce temper who slew demons. Like Inanna, Durga was also associated with sexuality. However, some of Parpola's evidence for Western Asian influence on ancient India (both the Indus Valley Civilization and historical and contemporary Hinduism) is described as "marshalled, rather than necessarily critically interrogated"; it's also been noted that his "mono-directional agencies may be an oversimplification of ancient history.

Traditional Mesopotamian religion began to gradually decline between the third and fifth centuries AD as ethnic Assyrians converted to Christianity. Nonetheless, the cult of Ishtar and Tammuz managed to survive in parts of Upper Mesopotamia. In the tenth century AD, an Arab traveler wrote that "All the Sabaeans of our time, those of Babylonia as well as those of Harran, lament and weep to this day over Tammuz at a festival which they, more particularly the women, hold in the month of the same name." Simo Parpola claims that the cult of Ishtar still existed in Mardin as late as the eighteenth century. Many of Parpola's views on religion and culture of ancient Mesopotamia and their impact on later history are however regarded as an example of hyperdiffusionism (panbabylonism) and aren't accepted by other scholars. Marina Warner (a literary critic rather than Assyriologist) claims that early Christians in the Middle East assimilated elements of Ishtar into the cult of the Virgin Mary. She argues that the Syrian writers Jacob of Serugh and Romanos the Melodist both wrote laments in which the Virgin Mary describes her compassion for her son at the foot of the cross in deeply personal terms closely resembling Ishtar's laments over the death of Tammuz. Broad comparisions between Tammuz and other dying gods are rooted in the work of James George Frazer and are regarded as a relic of less rigorous early 20th century Assyriology by more recent publications.”

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5d52be  No.14545101

>>14545097

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>> Amazing! Truly amazing! (((They))) would go to any length just to dirty the image of the Virgin Mary because (((they))) know she’s the real deal = she is the mother of Christ, our Savior.

“Worship of Venus deities connected to Inanna/Ishtar was known in Pre-Islamic Arabia right up until the Islamic period. Isaac of Antioch (d. 406 AD) says that the Arabs worshipped 'the Star' (kawkabta), also known as Al-Uzza, which many identify with Venus. Isaac also mentions an Arabian deity named Baltis, which most likely is another designation for Ishtar. In pre-Islamic Arabian inscriptions themselves, it appears that the deity known as Allat was also a Venusian deity (Inanna/Ishtar). Attar, a male god whose name is a cognate of Ishtar's, is a plausible candidate for the role of Arabian Venus deity too on the account of both his name and his epithet "eastern and western.”

>> I’ve already checked on Attar and it’s clear that the cult of the Evil Lady and the Horned Serpent warriors reached all the way to the Arabian Peninsula. If anons are interested, they can check the other deities suggested above themselves.

“Modern relevance

In his 1853 pamphlet The Two Babylons, as part of his argument that Roman Catholicism is actually Babylonian paganism in disguise, Alexander Hislop, a Protestant minister in the Free Church of Scotland, argued that the modern English word Easter must be derived from Ishtar due to the phonetic similarity of the two words. However, according to a Scientific American article published in 2013 by Krystal D'Costa the "word Easter does not appear to be derived from Ishtar, but from the German Eostre, the goddess of the dawn.”

>> Face palm for the old man. Etymology. Etymology. Etymology.

“[…]

While classical deities such as Apollo and Aphrodite frequently appear in modern popular culture, Mesopotamian deities have, by contrast, fallen into almost complete obscurity. Inanna/Ishtar has somewhat resisted this tendency, but has not been immune to it. She usually only appears in works with strong mythological input, and most modern portrayals of Inanna/Ishtar have virtually nothing in common with the ancient goddess except for her name. The 1963 splatter film Blood Feast concerns a serial killer who sacrifices his victims to Ishtar, who is incorrectly identified as an "Egyptian goddess". Ishtar also gave her name to the 1987 box office bomb Ishtar, in which the character Shirra was loosely modeled on her. According to Louise Pryke, the character Buffy Summers in Buffy the Vampire Slayer bears remarkably strong similarities to Ishtar, but these may be coincidental.[364] Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, following the portrayal in Blood Feast, portrays Ishtar as a soul-eating Egyptian mummy. One of the two highlands of the planet Venus is named "Ishtar Terra". John Craton composed a full-length opera about Ishtar and she has also been referenced in numerous rock and death metal songs.”

>> She’s very popular with nowadays Kabbalah isn’t she? Hm! I wonder why?

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5d52be  No.14545127

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>>14545101

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“The Argentinian feminist artist Liliana Kleiner created an exhibition of paintings depicting her interpretations of Inanna's myths, which was first displayed in Mexico in 2008. The exhibition was later shown in Jerusalem in 2011 and in Berlin in 2015. Inanna is one of the names on the Heritage Floor of The Dinner Party by American feminist artist Judy Chicago as a related woman to Ishtar, who has a seat at the table. Inanna is worshipped as a form of the Goddess in modern Neopaganism and Wicca. Her name occurs in the refrain of the "Burning Times Chant", one of the most widely used Wiccan liturgies. Inanna's Descent into the Underworld was the inspiration for the "Descent of the Goddess",one of the most popular and most important myths in Gardnerian Wicca.”

>> LoL! It cannot be more obvious than this to the reader.

“Inanna is also an important figure in modern BDSM culture. Author and historian Anne O. Nomis has cited the portrayal of Inanna in the myth of Inanna and Ebih as an early example of the dominatrix archetype, characterizing her as a powerful female who forces gods and men into submission to her. Scholar Paul Thomas has criticized the modern portrayal of Inanna, accusing it of anachronistically imposing modern gender conventions on the ancient Sumerian story, portraying Inanna as a wife and mother, two roles the ancient Sumerians never ascribed to her, while ignoring the more masculine elements of Inanna's cult, particularly her associations with warfare and violence.”

>> “Dominatrix” = I have tears in my eyes and I’m roaring in laughter. Honestly, is there anything (((they))) didn’t come up with? I will talk a bit about the Dominatrix a bit further down. Inanna = the Evil Lady does NOT project the image of a wife and loving mother. That image is projected by Neith. The Evil Lady is a perverted pedovore and anons can now easily distinguish among the 2 if you read any text concerning any female deity.

Couple of last ideas to clarify about the Evil Lady:

1-On page 1 035, we see sometimes Baphomet depicted as female = with breasts and as male = bare chest. So which one is it? And why do we have this dual gender representation of Baphomet? From the looks of it, it seems this is due to the dual gender issue with Inanna = the Evil Lady. When you study this in depths, you will discover that all the “crazy” stuff we have nowadays with the gender and sex issues; all of them; came from one place = had one starting point = the cult of the Evil Lady. This is why we see Baphomet = the horned devil, sometimes depicted as male, sometimes depicted as female. In reality, it’s a female since the Evil Lady was female. This is where the transgender, the homosexual, the orgy, the pedovore, the beastiality, the hermaphrodite etc. ideas come from. It’s starting to look more and more obvious that the head of the Antelope Clan is the Evil Lady. Sometimes in the entertainment industry (movies, music, cartoons, comics, sports etc.), they say: the devil is a she. It’s starting to make sense why? = because we have 2 devils: a male = the Evil One and a female = the Evil Lady.

2 - I put a picture of a Syrian seal imprint on page 1 302 – second picture. We can see a female deity standing inside something which looks like an arch but has also many flames coming out of the sides. This is not a cave and not a building. This is a machine, a flying machine – because jet planes engines can emit something that looks like flames. I’m putting a couple of pictures for anons to understand better what I mean there. Sorry anons, I’m not good with such names but I hope you will get the idea from the pictures.

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5d52be  No.14545144

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>>14545127

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This female deity is lifting her skirt in both hands, exposing her genitals. I believe this is the oldest representation of the Evil lady we have outside of the Taurus, even older than what we have of Inanna in Mesopotamia; since Syria is bordering the Taurus mountain range. Then I would like to ask anons to go take a look at the artifacts on page 983. See how the outlines of the skirt between the lifted edges and the arms have disappeared (second picture). And how the outlines of the lifted skirt have transformed into branches, looking like Palm tree branches – this is further accentuated in the third picture of that page. Then, look at the first picture and see how the palm trees have turned into a flower

Next take a look at the Burney relief, now Inanna is holding a Shenu Ring instead of flowers and she now has wings. Next comes the third picture of page 1 302, Inanna isn’t holding anything, no flowers, no Shenu Ring, no anything. She is simply holding both of her hands up and this is exactly how Tanit is represented symbolically on the last picture of the same page. I didn’t put this list in chronological order = from oldest to newest. I’m not going to waste time on it since it’s too much time consuming. Those whom are interested can use these artifacts, study them, and see to which civilizations and eras they belonged to. Then put them in chronological order to study the evolution of the Evil Lady’s design. This is how we do it in archaeology. We gather the pieces, identify them correctly (which era and which civilization) then we put them in chronological order and also geographical sometimes, to study how and where it spread. It takes a lot of time to do this. We can aslo see using this method how the design mutated and evolved.

Now keep the idea of lifting the skirt on hold and go to page 856, when we were taking a look at Isis from Ancient Egypt. It was during the Ptolemaic times = Greek Influence – that this iconography of Isis-Aphrodite (third picture) started to show up; where the goddess was exposing her genitals. This iconography entered Ancient Egypt from the Greeks. But where did the Greeks originally got it from = the Hittites of course. And this iconography originated as anons can see right on the side of the Taurus mountain chain = bordering Syria. The Greek Bloodlines = the Ptolemaic dynasty KNEW exactly whom this is = the Evil Lady = (((their))) founding queen = (((their))) matriarch. And (((they))) confused her with Isis = (((they))) thought it was Isis; which is incorrect.

I have already explained this, but now I’m linking the tunnels together and I’m showing anons where I got my information from. When I say I’ve been working on this for more than 4 decades, you have no idea the stuff I’ve been researching. This is one of them, I’ve tracked down this specific iconography, from Syria, into Greece, into the Middle East and it landed in Ancient Egypt during Ptolemaic times.

And just to be on a lighter mood, I’ve put this iconic moment from one Monroe’s movies for anons. Where do you think this idea of “lifting the skirt” came from? ^_~

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01e10f  No.14551880

File: b3d7e1c24772d95⋯.png (59.32 KB, 260x440, 13:22, Anat_Anath_Canaanite_godde….png)

>>14545144

(Please read from the start)

There are many mutations = different forms of the Evil Lady, including in the Greek and Roman times. There are as many mutations as there are City-States in the Middle East because when her cult reached them one by one, it took on local = native aspects of the City-States, which results in hundreds of mutated forms of her. I will leave it to anons to go there if they are interested in this subject. You will find MANY mutated forms of the Evil Lady: most are females and there is a small number where she is a male like what we saw with Attar (starting page 1 230 – whom I think is an Antelope warrior, not the Evil Lady in person). I would like to get a bit of attention to Anat and her connection to Yahweh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat

But first, remember anons the word Baal means Lord/king, it is NOT a NAME and don’t forget that the Evil One was a Sebetti king, so he was also called Baal in the Phoenician language, just like the King of kings was called Baal. It’s a bit confusing to the inexperienced = greenhorn researcher, but I got used to it and I’ve managed to identify 4 different categories of Baals = Lords/Kings in Phoenicia. I will be talking about this later on. For now, read carefully about Anant, be careful of the mutations, I hope you will be able to see through them; this is not easy and it’s very complicated and mixed, be careful when working.

“In Israel

The goddess name ‘Anat is preserved in the city names Beth-Anath and Anathoth. Anathoth seems to be a plural form of the name, perhaps a shortening of bêt ‘anātôt 'House of the ‘Anats', either a reference to many shrines of the goddess or a plural of intensification

The ancient hero Shamgar, son of ‘Anat, is mentioned in Judges 3.31 and 5:6, which raises the idea that this judge or hero may have been understood as a demi-god, a mortal son of the goddess. But John Day (2000) notes that a number of Canaanites known from non-Biblical sources bore that title and theorizes that it was a military designation indicating a warrior under ‘Anat's protection. Asenath, "holy to Anath", was the wife of the Hebrew patriarch Joseph.”

>> Not so much about worshiping ONE god, right? It’s all bogus.

“In Elephantine (modern Aswan) in Egypt, the 5th century BCE Elephantine papyri make mention of a goddess called Anat-Yahu (Anat-Yahweh) worshiped in the temple to Yahweh originally built by Jewish refugees from the Babylonian conquest of Judah. These suggest that "even in exile and beyond the worship of a female deity endured." The texts were written by a group of Jews living at Elephantine near the Nubian border, whose religion has been described as "nearly identical to Iron Age II Judahite religion". The papyri describe the Jews as worshiping Anat-Yahu (or AnatYahu). Anat-Yahu is described as either the wife or paredra (sacred consort) of Yahweh or as a hypostatized aspect of Yahweh.”

>> Am I the only one smiling from ear to ear here? ^_^ Anat is a mutated form of the Evil Lady. Yahweh is the Evil One. They were worshiped by the Jews near Nubian border as a couple = Husband and Wife in the 5th century BC ^_^ . Do you understand why (((they))) went into such pain to edit the Old Testament? This parchment “slipped” through (((their))) fingers. How many little juicy treasures like this you think has slipped past (((them)))? See how well doctored the Old Testament is to hide the truth? It’s edited with loads of sugar coating specially put there for the Sheep. The Jews worldwide know exactly whom Yahweh is and they know exactly whom Inanna/Anat is. If Anat is the name of a pagan goddess, why modern day Israel didn’t change the name of those 2 towns and kept them with a pagan name? See what I mean?

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01e10f  No.14551885

>>14551880

(Please read from the start)

“In contemporary Israel, "Anat" is a common female first name - see Anat (disambiguation). Philologist Anat Bechar, who herself bears the name, wrote: "The Biblical Shamgar was a rather minor and obscure character, and of his mother Anat we know nothing but her name. We do know that it was the name of a goddess in a Semitic pantheon to which the author(s) of the Bible were strongly and vehemently opposed, though it seems some of our ancestors did at some times worship her. None of which explains the popularity of the name in present-day Israel. To my mind, the reason is likely to be found in the completely accidental similarity of "Anat" with the European name "Annette", which appealed to Zionist pioneers coming from Europe and steeped in European culture. However, this hypothesis needs a thorough research in the Hebrew records from the early 20th Century, to verify or disprove”.”

>> LoL! I’m enjoying this, how about you dear reader? See what I mean? The most popular name in nowadays Israel is the name of a sex and war hungry pagan deity. Amazing! Truly amazing! And she was worshiped by “some” ancestors, but it’s unverified. Chuckles! This is in Judaism anons. Dig and you will find plenty, including connections with Lilith. The rabbit holes are like a maze and they all connect. If your starting point for the research is the Bible, mostly the Old Testament, then you will reach a dead end. But…if you start researching about the Evil Couple….oh boy! Oh boy! You will find plenty. But of course there are plenty of mutations and misinterpretations, so be careful and work slowly and methodically. Oh and shh! Keep it quiet, (((they))) don’t want the Sheep to find out the truth about (((their))) false god. I bet the “vehement opposition” to the cult of Anat in the Bible is “planted” in there when (((they))) edited it, just to make is sound plausible for the Sheep = you know…. A bit of sugar coating to make it nice and pretty.

“[…]

Possible late transfigurations

The goddess ‘Atah worshipped at Palmyra may possibly be in origin identical with ‘Anat. ‘Atah was combined with ‘Ashtart under the name Atar into the goddess ‘Atar‘atah known to the Hellenes as Atargatis. If this origin for ‘Atah is correct, then Atargatis is effectively a combining of ‘Ashtart and ‘Anat.

It has also been proposed that (Indo-)Iranian Anahita meaning 'immaculate' in Avestan (a 'not' + ahit 'unclean') is a variant of ‘Anat. It is however unlikely given that the Indo-Iranian roots of the term are related to the Semitic ones and although—through conflation—Aredvi Sura Anahita (so the full name) inherited much from Ishtar-Inanna, the two are considered historically distinct.

In the Zohar, ‘Anat is numbered among the holiest of angelic powers under the name of Anathiel.

In Sefer Yetzirah, Rabbi Kaplan mentions that this angel is the ruling malach (angel) over Venus.”

>> No need for me to comment, it’s very clear.

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0a3965  No.14557916

File: 6378defdca97e3d⋯.jpg (4.52 MB, 2560x1920, 4:3, Atargatis_Nabatean_c_100_A….jpg)

>>14551885

(Please read from the start)

And this brings me to Atargatis. I’ve been very troubled by a mysterious female deity which cult had the current Syrian/Turkish border region as a starting point (on the map). This specific deity was known as the “mysterious Northern Syrian Goddess”. She was known later on as “Dea Syria”. She mutated as well and had many names, including Allat. I think she is a mutation or a form of the Evil Lady (maybe closer than Inanna’s). The closest we probably have to the original form of the Evil Lady is in the Taurus mountain chain. I looked a lot, searched for a long time, read loads of archives and excavation data, including many artifacts. I’ve managed to zoom in on Atargatis after many years. Let’s take a look at her shall we? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atargatis

“Atargatis /əˈtɑːrɡətɪs/ or Ataratheh (/əˈtærəθə/; Aramaic: 'Atar'atheh or Tar'atheh) was the chief goddess of northern Syria in Classical antiquity. Ctesias also used the name Derketo (Ancient Greek: Δερκετὼ) for her, and the Romans called her Dea Syria, or in one word Deasura. Primarily she was a goddess of fertility, but, as the baalat ("mistress") of her city and people she was also responsible for their protection and well-being. Her chief sanctuary was at Hierapolis, modern Manbij, northeast of Aleppo, Syria.

Michael Rostovtzeff called her "the great mistress of the North Syrian lands". Her consort is usually Hadad. As Ataratheh, doves and fish were considered sacred to her: doves as an emblem of the Love-Goddess, and fish as symbolic of the fertility and life of the waters.”

>> Anons, Atargatis (including the name) is the mutated form of the Evil lady starting with the Greeks then all the way to the Romans, passing by the Seleucids. What you are about to read is how she was seen from the Greeks era onward. But I have dug for information and searched for artifacts about her and I have found out that the name might give a Greek connotation to it and some mutation did happen, but the cult of this specific goddess is incredibly old in (mostly) northern Syria. There is no written information what-so-ever about that ancient northern Syrian goddess, not as ancient as the artifacts I’ve came across. The cult is incredibly old, but the name and the documentation about her are mostly around the Greek influence period in the region. Notice the similarities with her name (=Ataratheh) and Astarte = a mutation of her name. We are still talking about the Evil Lady here, but under a mutated form.

“According to a third-century Syriac source, "In Syria and in Urhâi [Edessa] the men used to castrate themselves in honor of Taratha. But when King Abgar became a believer, he commanded that anyone who emasculated himself should have a hand cut off. And from that day to the present no one in Urhâi emasculates himself anymore.”

She is sometimes described as a mermaid-goddess, due to identification of her with a fish-bodied goddess at Ascalon. However, there is no evidence that Atargatis was worshipped at Ascalon, and all iconographic evidence shows her as anthropomorphic.”

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0a3965  No.14557917

>>14557916

(Please read from the start)

>> Amazing! The Cult of Atargatis, a mutated form of the cult of Inanna/The Evil Lady, still persisted in Israel during the Seleucide time and beyond. Yet they tell you it was not the Jews. It was the pagans…then….aren’t there “a few” Jews there and too many pagans? You have 2 possibilities here in front of you:

1 – Either the Jews practiced the cult of Atargatis, a mutated form from Anat (we just saw her); herself a mutated form of Inanna = the Evil Lady.

2 – Or there were too little Jews in the area to be able to “ban” or stop the cult of Atargatis. This is why it was widespread in Israel back then.

So which do you think it is? Have a pick because both are correct.

“Origin and name

Atargatis is seen as a continuation of Bronze Age goddesses. At Ugarit, cuneiform tablets attest multiple Canaanite goddesses, among them three are considered as relevant to theories about the origin of Atargatis:

• ʾAṭirat, described as "Lady of the Sea" (rabbatu ʾatiratu yammi) and "mother of the gods"

• ʿAnat, a war goddess

• ʿAțtart, a goddess of the hunt also sharing Anat's warlike role, regarded as analogous to Ishtar and Ishara in Ugaritic god lists and as such possibly connected to love.”

>> Read carefully the characteristics of the 3 deities mentioned just now. They are all the characteristics of the Evil Lady. We are seeing the mutated forms of her. Multiple ones and with each form of hers taking a specific aspect of her. It’s amazing isn’t it how younger generations made spaghetti out of the truth. The younger generations messed up things big times. Their confusion confused us and is still misleading us.

“John Day asserts that all three shared many traits with each other and may have been worshipped in conjunction or separately during 1500 years of cultural history. While the worship of Ashtart and Anat as a pair is well attested, Steve A. Wiggins found no evidence Ashtart was ever conflated with Athirat. He also pointed out that the concept of Athirat, Anat and Ashtart as a trinity of sorts (popularized by authors like Tikva Frymer-Kensky), is modern and ignores the role of other deities in Ugarit - for example Shapash; as well as the importance of the connection between Athirat and El.”

>> All of these deities have one origin = the Evil Lady whom came out of the Ark, settled somewhere in the Taurus Mountain Chain at first. When the Flood water receded, she came down the Euphrates and stayed for some time somewhere in Mesopotamia. During all of this time, her cult was spreading in northern Syria, Israel, Mesopotamia and Anatolia, as well as the Armenian Plateau and Persia.

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0a3965  No.14557920

File: f505d6674a9df6c⋯.jpg (27.62 KB, 500x223, 500:223, Coin_of_Demetrios_III_Sele….jpg)

>>14557917

(Please read from the start)

But for some reason, the Evil Lady attacked herself the Phoenician City-States. Neith came to the “rescue” and confronted her, many battles must have occurred between the 2 sides for some time. All of this time the cult was still spreading and by then, it had reached Phoenicia and Greece. Her cult is a later addition in Phoenicia because the Lebanese mountain range acted as a natural barrier making it difficult to cross with the caravans etc. Her cult showed up earlier in Ugarit than the other Phoenician City-States because it was located beyond the barrier of the Lebanese mountains (to their North) = easy access for migrating waves or caravans. As well as, it showed up earlier in Jordan and Israel because both are outside of the Lebanese mountains. These mountains acted as a fortification walls and they slowed down the spread into heartland Phoenicia of her cult. That cult spread easier and faster on the North and South of Phoenicia heartland where there was no natural barrier to slow it down.

“The name Atargatis derives from the Aramaic form ʿAtarʿatheh, which comes in several variants. At Hierapolis Bambyce (modern day Manbij) on coins of about the 4th century BCE, the legend ʿtrʿth appears, for ʿAtarʿate, and ʿtrʿth mnbgyb in a Nabataean inscription; at Kafr Yassif near Akko an altar is inscribed "to Adado and Atargatis, the gods who listen to prayer"; and the full name ʿtrʿth appears on a bilingual inscription found in Palmyra.”

>> See what I was explaining in the paragraph just above? Locate the cities mentioned here on a map and see how they are on the North and South of the Lebanese mountains. It’s like her cult spread like a crescent around the mountains and slowly got its way into Phoenicia with time. It didn’t originate in Phoenicia. This is also applied to the cult of Ishtar and Astarte. They all followed the same “road” = pattern into Phoenicia; because of the geography of the area, just like it was with Euphrates coming down from Armenia. The key role = the main role is the Geography of the area. It’s the major element dictating the flow of things.

There are many coins from the Seleucides, I’m going to put a sample for anons and I’m going to talk a bit about the iconography of Atargatis on the back side of the coin = the reverse.

Atargatis is depicted standing in the middle of the reverse side of the coins. There are inscriptions on each side of her which anons can find (along with translation) in online numismatic catalogues. The deity is standing facing us. She is wearing a veil which we see as thin line all around her – making a little arch like turn on top of her head. Both of her hands are in the same position as we saw in earlier iconography of the Evil lady = lifting the skirt position. But here, her arms are not held that high, they are depicted lower. She is definitely holding something in each arm. We know from her standard sculptures that she is depicted holding wheat, which we can see here depicted on each side of her head – remember anons, this is a tiny coin we are examining here, so don’t fuss too much on the quality of the art.

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84dc8c  No.14564291

File: 46f04aafe036e0d⋯.jpg (84.54 KB, 800x800, 1:1, Corset.jpg)

File: a28430152cb4e2d⋯.jpg (105.59 KB, 720x1015, 144:203, 5898ac692800001f00997195.jpg)

>>14557920

(Please read from the start)

Next I’m going to explain the hardest part to understand. I’m going to talk about what she is wearing. I hope you will keep up because this is very complicated and most don’t understand this in my classes when I talk about it.

For some extremely strange and unknown reason, MOST ancient goddesses in the Middle East (without Mesopotamia) and in Ancient Egypt wore a full body corset. Take a look at ALL the pictures I’ve put of Ancient Egyptian goddesses, like Isis, Hathor, Neith, Bastet etc. They all wear this type of clothing that is tight around their body, like a corset. This is something most people don’t know about.

In the first picture I’m attaching with this page, you can see a normal, nowadays looking corset worn by a model. Now imagine this corset not stopping at the waist line of the lady but being long all the way down to her ankles (keep that thought). That’s pretty uncomfortable and extremely hard to walk with, right?

In the Middle East (Mesopotamia not included), there is a tiny difference with Ancient Egypt in this type of clothing = the corset was worn on top = above (en dessus) of a thin long veil like tunic. It’s like the tunic is playing the role of undergarment. I couldn’t find such picture online, but I guess the second picture I’m attaching with this page should make what I’m talking about clear. The lady in the picture is wearing a white shirt and on top of it, she is wearing a waist level corset like belt. The situation in the Middle East was similar but the corset came all the way down to her ankles.

The thin veil like undergarment worn under the corset was longer than the corset. So it used to come out in the shape of ruffles from under the corset at the level of the feet, which were covered by it: most of the time we couldn’t see the feet. Sometimes the ruffles used to be displayed in a way to come on top of the feet = having the same shape as the feet.

So when you look at this type of clothing from the front, you will see the deity wearing something tight that is hugging her body and some ruffles coming out like 2 fish fins = making it like a fish tail. If anons don’t believe me, please check out the catalogues and the artifacts. When you are done, then do the experiment yourselves: wear a thin long veil like undergarment and then wrap yourself tightly from chest till your ankles with letting the ruffles of the undergarment be displayed on your feet. Then look at the result and compare. YUP! We did the experiment to check it out and we got the same results. We used bandages because there is no way on earth we will ever find a corset that reaches the ankles. So we used something similar = bandages. Actually an Egyptologist gave us the idea to use bandages and wrap it tightly as they used to do for the mummies. ^_^ But you gotta wrap both feet joined together and not each one separately = you gotta create a “body hugging” outfit, from chest to ankles. Good luck with trying to walk.

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84dc8c  No.14564301

File: 462f5c4d7aef6f5⋯.jpg (33.3 KB, 180x509, 180:509, Atargatis_misinterpretatio….jpg)

File: 9b3674c712b1879⋯.jpg (61.95 KB, 180x509, 180:509, Atargatis_misinterpretatio….jpg)

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>>14564291

(Please read from the start)

To explain this better, I want to show anons this relief of Atargatis. In the first picture, we see her wearing Roman/Greek Style tunic, but somewhere at the level of her waist we see her wearing something tight and it goes all the way down to the outter sides of her ankles, while her tunic ruffles are shown in the middle = inner space between ankles.

Most people, from ancient times till now, make the mistake of seeing this as picture 2 with the orange lines. And unfortunately, everyone thinks this is Atargatis in her Mermaid form = with the lower part of her body being the tail of a fish. (face palm). As I’ve just said, this ERROR has been around for many centuries, including during ancient times, like Greek and Roman times. During the Seleucide times, the new comers to the region didn’t understand the clothing of the original Atargatis = the indigenous Atargatis. So some started seeing this as a goddess with half a fish body but some also understood how the clothing system works. With time the misunderstanding and the real meaning became each a separate characteristic of the goddess, each became one of her symbols (face palm). The third picture is how the bottom of her dress really is.

And unfortunately, the half fish error was remade when the Bloodlines rediscovered the Evil Lady and sent expeditions to the Middle East to discover (((their))) past, collecting the artifacts as well. And this is where nowadays leather wearing dominating brutal woman in sex comes from. I think they are called dominatrix or something like that. This is invented by (((them))) thinking it’s what the Evil Lady used to wear. Do you understand now where all the sexual “perversions” come from? It’s ALL from the cult of the Evil Lady. It’s the Bloodlines which spread them and made them popular in modern day; while they were openly practiced in Ancient Rome for example. When Christianity came, they had to do it in hiding.

So dear reader, what you see on the coins is not the mermaid shape of Atargatis with her fishtail on the bottom. That’s the veil coming out from her corset and spread right on top of her feet.

The “dots” we see her being covered with from shoulders to ankle are most probably her multiple breasts. Yes, this is the ancient pre-Greek iconography = Syrian iconography of Atargatis. She had hundreds of breasts showing up, more like popping out of her corset, all over her. They used to practice the “sacred prostitution” as part of Atargatis cult. Her multiple breasts are not there for nursing children, nor are they signs of fecondity = these 2 characteristics are added later on: a misunderstanding of the original form. Here, we are talking about a sexual goddess. She craved for sex and she was constantly in heat. The multiple breasts symbolize orgies = sacred prostitution. And we know how perverted the sex rituals are with the Bloodlines = everything started with the Evil Couple and it was passed down to their descendants all the way to nowadays.

I will be talking a bit more about the multiple breasts a bit further down.

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679096  No.14569832

File: 276d42398d3b954⋯.jpg (159.93 KB, 900x600, 3:2, artemis_of_ephesus_in_the_….jpg)

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>>14564301

(Please read from the start)

Also, when we look at the artifact I put in the previous page, we think the origin of the corset is actually something that’s got to do with the armor of the Evil Lady. When you look closely at the first picture, you will feel like what we think is a corset might actually be WINGS. We think the corset might be a mutation for the wings of the armor of the Evil Lady which she folded and wrapped around her waist, like she was wrapping herself in a blanket or a shawl. This could be linked to the Aegis we talked about when taking a look at Wonder Woman 1984 movie.

We don’t know what is that oval shape thing on her waist level on the reverse side of the coin iconography of her. But we know this ancient iconography of her evolved during the Seleucide and the Roman times. The multiple breasts covering her were just represented on her chest. They were replaced by different decorations on her corset which was divided into different registers = levels. I’m attaching to this page the statue of Artemis of Ephesus. This is in display at the Vatican Museum. It speaks volumes of itself doesn’t it anons? This specific iconography was brought by the Bloodlines to the Vatican Museum all the way from Ephesus.

Look carefully at the busts I’ve put for anons in yellow circles: they have a double gender = dual gender: male and female. Remember what we saw with Inanna (Ishtar was mentioned as well) about her dual gender? About the dual gender of Baphomet? About the dual gender cult coming from the Evil Lady’s cult? This is it in front of you, on display for the whole world to see in the Vatican Museum. The reason these dual gender busts are displayed next to the big statue of Artemis of Ephesus is mostly likely because they were found in the vicinity of that statue. In Museology, we tend to group the artifacts according to the place we found them in = même provenance; or if they have the same subject.

Remember St. Paul from the Bible and how he wrote to the people of Ephesus? Why do you think that? Why do you think he went to preach in Ephesus? Why do you think he went to the snake’s pit to preach? He knew exactly what was going on in Ephesus and he wanted to do something about it. I’ve found this cute, short article on Paul in Ephesus, it’s enough to give anons a quick idea on what was going on there: https://www.ephesus.us/ephesus/st_paul_in_ephesus.htm

“St Paul in Ephesus

“while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus “ Acts 19:1”

>> Artemis in Ephesus – Apollo in Corinth = both places where St. Paul went to preach. Can anons find the connection between these 2 places? I will be talking about this when I reach the Greeks, but in the meantime, if the reader is interested in such digs, I’m going to give you homework, sort of speak. I already know the answer for all of this ^_~

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40cb79  No.14569849

>>14569832

(Please read from the start)

“The first Christian community in Ephesus was established by St John and developed by St Paul. Paul came in to the city to fulfill the promise that he had given on his brief visit when returning from Corinth and stayed for about three and a half years and also wrote his letters to Ephesians in captivity most probably here in Ephesus. When Paul came to Ephesus, first in the synagogues and then everywhere in the city, he preached the gospel and gained followers. The church of Ephesus which became the head of the Seven Churches in western Asia Minor was established by Paul.”

>> Read carefully, please. Both St. Peter and St. Paul went to preach in Ephesus: it was a famous place for the cult of the Evil Lady = worshiping one of the 2 devils and the sacred prostitution was heavily practiced there. What are the odds more than simple orgies were practiced there? Do you think the priestesses whom practiced sacred prostitution never got pregnant? What happened to their babies? See what I mean? Do you understand why St. Peter and St. Paul went there to preach? They went to the lair of Satan to preach. Both Saints knew exactly what was going on there and wanted to put a stop to it.

Why did St. Paul preach first in the SYNAGOGUES? In PLURAL. Not ONE synagogue, but synagogues in plural. Which betrays the demographic numbers of the JEWS in the city of Ephesus. There was a LARGE Jewish community in Ephesus. If Jews were the “Chosen people” of God, blessed by Him, why the heck are they living in such a disgusting, sinful city? Why didn’t they move out of there? Or, if they are influential, either demographically or financially, why didn’t do anything to put a stop to the cult of the Evil Lady = Baphomet being practiced there? Amazing! We just read a few pages ago about the same “situation” happening in Israel. Amazing is another tiny detail of the Jews living on the Nubian border (5th century BC) where they worshiped the Evil Lady and the Evil One there. It’s just one misunderstanding after the another and one coincidence after the other. Let’s move on, shall we? Nothing to see here.

One thing for certain: these 2 Saints were extremely brave.

Now then, ask yourselves anons? Why on earth would St. Paul “start” preaching in a synagogue? I mean really why? Look beyond the surface. He gained followers in Ephesus…but…it’s not mentioned if they were originally Jews or pagans ^_^ See how the text is well crafted? They tell you the word synagogue, then they say the Saint gained followers. Your mind will connect both words, making you believe the Jews became the followers; while in reality, we don’t know that for sure. We only know he had followers from many backgrounds and not exclusively from Jewish background.

Don’t you love it when the number 7 shows up…mostly with Saints? ^_^

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997478  No.14577482

File: e06507ac5c3c891⋯.jpg (86.84 KB, 796x735, 796:735, St_Paul_ephesus.jpg)

>>14569849

(Please read from the start)

Oh and if the reader hasn’t figured it out yet, Aphrodite/Venus and Artemis/Diana are 2 aspects of the same person = the Evil Lady. Aphrodite is her deified sexual aspect; while Artemis is her archer aspect. I’ve already explained how aspects the Sebetti rulers were deified, thought to be different persons by younger generations, as it was the case with Neith/Isis/Hathor/Baalat of Gebal. And I’ve given anons as modern day example of lovely Melania Trump with different facets of her.

“St Paul had to struggle with magicians and soothsayers in Ephesus while struggling with state offices and pagans. In a short time, Ephesus became the third important city of Christianity after Jerusalem and Antioch. Christianity rapidly gained popularity in Ephesus and by the popularity of this new religion, the jeweler Demetrius and others who earned a living by selling and making silver statues of Mother Goddess Artemis, were quite distressed. Demetrius and his colleagues provoked thousands of people and met with them in the Ephesus theatre and started shouting “Great is Artemis of the Ephesians.” St Paul wanted to face the crowd but disciples would not let him. Finally, the city clerk announced that the courts were open for people who had a complaint and dispersed the crowd. After this event St Paul left Ephesus and went to Macedonia.

It is seen that Ephesus had an important place in the lives of both apostles but both of them were not in Ephesus at the same time. John and Paul led different communities in Ephesus.

For travelers interested in biblical sites, Ephesus is especially noteworthy as being the place where St.Paul visited and preached early Christianity to the people.”

>> Take a look whom “fought” St. Paul and his teachings: “magicians and soothsayers”; but this didn’t stop the quick spread of the “new” religion.

Next, I’m going to explain something to anons: When Alexander the Great conquered the Persian Empire and he suddenly died shortly afterwards, the territory fell under the control of his generals which after many fights amongst them (Diadochi wars) some of them managed to ruler a section = a territory = a kingdom. The natives of the land were Hellenized, by that I mean they abandoned their native customs, daily customs, like clothes, alphabet, cooking dishes, hair style, house furniture designs etc. – and they adopted the Greek model = living in the Greek Style, which included architecture, laws and anything you can think of. If you want to understand what I mean, take a look at the Ptolemaic dynasty in Ancient Egypt. But this didn’t occur a 100%, as in all the way in. Most of the locals merged, blended the native way of life with the new Greek way of life. This is how, for example, you see Greek and Ancient Egyptian art mixed together in one artifact. Like the many artifacts of Egyptians deities wearing Greek or Roman clothing I’ve put the pictures of in this thread – please go check them out. This is how the natives blended the old and the new cultures together to make a new one which was special and specific to the Middle East. The Greek/Hellenistic era in the Middle East, is very different from the one in motherland Greece, because of this mixture.

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997478  No.14577507

>>14577482

(Please read from the start)

This also influenced the NAMES of persons, individuals. Many locals, including JEWS, adopted Greek names or names with Greek connotation to them, in order to be trendy, to look modernized and civilized, refined. So when anons read that a JEWELER called “Demetrius” was unhappy with the spread of the teachings of St. Paul…you gotta smile here anons. The name Demetrius doesn’t point he was a Greek. It simply points that this person was living in the Greek Style. It’s his profession = JOB, that shows us whom he really was, as in to which community he belonged to. Wanna have a guess? ^_^ Whom are famous throughout History of being Jewelers and for “adoring” Gold” ? = whom are the big Gold addicts in History?

And it just so happens that there is a large Jewish community in Ephesus since we have more than one synagogue in the city. And it just happens to be Ephesus is a big worshiping center of the Evil Lady. And it just happens to be the sacred prostitution was heavily practiced there. And it just happens to have “magic” was practiced there. It’s amazing because magic was also (and still is) heavily practiced in Judaism. And it happens to be that Saint Paul poked the Jews of the city by teaching in their synagogues, before moving to the general public.

We don’t know whom the “others” backing the Jeweler Demetrius are. They are mysteriously not mentioned. Not a pip on their names or their backgrounds. I wonder why is it a Jeweler, not a carpenter, or tavern keeper or a leather tanner etc. See what I mean anons. Everything is pointing to the same and one direction = the JEWS in the city.

I can assure you anons, that I’m barely scratching the surface of it all. If you dig deeper…oh boy! Oh boy! You will find plenty of stuff.

Now anons understand why Atargatis is important and why the cult of Artemis of Ephesus is important as well. I have missing links though: I was unable to find how the cult from the Taurus moved to Ephesus and how it moved to Northern Syria. I know I’m missing the pieces in the middle of both cases: both started in the Taurus mountain range, then one showed up in Ephesus and one showed up in Northern Syria and became Atargatis or Dea Syria. But between the start and the end, I have a missing piece for each case. Now let’s get back to the Wikipedia page about Atargatis after that detour.

“Robert A. Oden assumes that the name of Atargatis was a compound of Astarte's and Anat's. The name ʿAtarʿatheh is widely held to derive from a compound of the Aramaic form ʿAttar, which is a cognate of ʿAțtart minus its feminine suffix -t, plus ʿAttah or ʿAtā, a cognate of ʿAnat. Alternatively, the second half may be a Palmyrene divine name ʿAthe (i.e. tempus opportunum), which occurs as part of many compounds. It has also been proposed that the element -gatis may relate to the Greek gados "fish". (For example, the Greek name for "sea monster" or "whale" is the cognate term ketos). So Atar-Gatis may simply mean "the fish-goddess Atar".”

>> Atargatis and Astarte are both variants of the old Northern Syrian deitie’s name; which is a mystery, we know nothing about it. This is why I call her Atargatis to point out the Syrian location of this cult. When I use Astarte, I mean to point the Phoenician location of the cult.

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997478  No.14577524

>>14577507

(Please read from the start)

Connecting this to the “sea” and to the “sea monster” might be pointing to the Flood that happened during the Cataclysm where the entire Mediterranean basin was submerged. But there is also a chance that water and therefor fish, could have something to do with the sub heraldic animal symbol of the Evil Lady. I keep on wondering if she could manipulate water or something like that.

I can assure anons, she is not a mermaid = half fish/half human. I already explained to anons where the misunderstanding of this idea comes from. And this leads me in turn to the “Little Mermaid” cartoon of Disney: Ariel has red hair, and she defies her father = the king of the sea because she loves a human = a forbidden love. The Evil witch tries to take advantage of the situation and usurps the crown = takes the crown from the king. The king whom loves his daughter, sacrifices himself to save her. Both Ariel and the Evil octopus witch is in this cartoon are the same lady = Ariel is her BEFORE she turned Evil, the Octopus witch is her AFTER she turned Evil. Well…. Anons are starting to get the picture, right?

“Cult centers and images

As a consequence of the first half of the name, Atargatis has frequently, though wrongly, been identified as Ashtart. The two deities were probably of common origin and have many features in common, but their cults are historically distinct. There is reference in 2 Maccabees 12.26 and 1 Maccabees 5:43 to an Atargateion or Atergateion, a temple of Atargatis, at Carnion in Gilead, but the home of the goddess was unquestionably not Israel or Canaan, but Syria itself; at Hierapolis Bambyce she had a temple in her name. At Palmyra she appears on the coinage with a lion, or her presence is signalled with a lion and the crescent moon; an inscription mentions her. In the temples of Atargatis at Palmyra and at Dura-Europos[ she appeared repeatedly with her consort, Hadad, and in the richly syncretic religious culture at Dura-Europos, was worshipped as Artemis Azzanathkona. Two well preserved temples in Niha, Lebanon are dedicated to her and to Hadad. In the 1930s, numerous Nabatean bas-relief busts of Atargatis were identified by Nelson Glueck at Khirbet et-Tannûr, Jordan, in temple ruins of the early first century CE; there the lightly veiled goddess's lips and eyes had once been painted red, and a pair of fish confronted one another above her head. Her wavy hair, suggesting water to Glueck, was parted in the middle. At Petra the goddess from the north was syncretised with a North Arabian goddess from the south al-Uzzah, worshipped in the one temple. At Dura-Europus among the attributes of Atargatis are the spindle and the sceptre or fish-spear.”

>> In this paragraph there is a mixture of correct things and wrong things said. All the examples given are correct and there is plenty, plenty more. It is also half-way correct that the cult of Atargatis didn’t start in Phoenician or Israel, but in NORTHERN Syria – on the zone bordering Turkey. Then it went down into Syria, to Israel, to Jordan, and it finally reached Phoenicia. It went down the Euphrates and reached Mesopotamia simultaneously.

Saying there is not connection, influence between Ashtart and Atargatis is false. It’s correct that both have the same origin = the Evil Lady, but one did influence the other. We have her under many names because of the many waves of migration/caravans coming. The spread of her cult didn’t happen in one day and not in one way = one road. This is more like a spider web spread than a single straight line spread, if you know what I mean.

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997478  No.14577542

>>14577524

(Please read from the start)

For those whom like to see old sites and explore, I recommend the sites mentioned in this paragraph as historical places to visit. Some are incredibly nice to see.

The fish mentioned = facing one another, are represented the same way as how we see them depicted on the lower section of the throne where the red veiled lady sits – Nergal relief page 790. My problem with the “Fish” and/or “water” symbols depicted with Atargatis or the Evil Lady is that I’m unable to determine if they are linked to:

1 - The Flood = her surviving the Cataclysm and coming out of the Ark. Remember Isis and Neith were both linked to boats.

2 - This is all linked to her special attribute as a Sebetti – I’m stuck with the moon as well.

3 – The fish symbol, therefor water associated with it, can have its origin linked to the wrong interpretation given to the corset wore by the Native Atargatis. Because they misunderstood what she wore and took it for a fish tail, fish/water became a symbol of the Evil Lady.

Maybe the truth about the fish/water symbol connection to the Evil Lady is all the above combined. In turn, this might explain why we have Aquatic designs: like the nautilus shell, on the Epstein Island estate, along with other Aquatic origin symbols. Same thing for chateau de Versailles.The “cult” that was being practiced there was the cult of the Evil Lady. This also might explain why Killary = the Master of Epstein island practice the cult of Baphomet = the Antelope clan.

“At her temples at Ascalon, Hierapolis Bambyce, and Edessa, there were fish ponds containing fish only her priests might touch. Glueck noted in 1936 that "to this day there is a sacred fish-pond swarming with untouchable fish at Qubbet el-Baeddwī, a dervish monastery three kilometres east of Tripolis, Lebanon.”

>> Ascalon is in Israel, right? And….they are saying that only her priest could touch the fish in the pond there, meaning there was a temple for her there and she was worshiped in Israel. Not a new notion since we already know that Anat was worshiped there (Anat is another form of the Evil Lady). But the big piece of garbage thrown in our faces in these few lines in the insertion of Lebanon in all of this: out of nowhere, without any coherent thought process, they just threw there that there is a fish pond linked to a mosque in Tripoli, Lebanon that exists to this day. Waw! So now it’s a crime to raise fishes in ponds in Lebanon and it’s all linked to the cult of the Evil Lady. Amazing! This is done on purpose to diverge your thoughts from Ascalon being a worship center of the Evil Lady by the Jews = and make you automatically think her cult was widespread and practiced in Lebanon/ Phoenicia. I’m not saying her cult didn’t exist in Phoenician because it did, but this doesn’t mean that specific pond of fish is linked to her cult. No explanation, no evidence, nothing whatsoever is given to us as to how Glueck reached that conclusion.

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997478  No.14577555

>>14577542

(Please read from the start)

Yes, there was a cult of the Evil Lady in Phoenicia under the rule of the Roman. I’m sure there were many small temples of her cult everywhere in the region, but the biggest site for her in Lebanon was in the Beqaa Valley where she merged with the local deity and became known in the Roman times as Venus Heliopolitana = her temple existed in the current city of Baalbek = house of Baal. Long story there anons, and if I have time on my hands, I will give you a tour of this megalithic site. I know a lot about it ^_^ I have a full notebook with information about it. This site, this temple of the Baalbek Triade or known as the Heliopolis Triade was a ROMAN IMPERIAL site; as in it was under the direct supervision of the Roman Emperor himself and it was funded by the Imperial coffers. A lot of shallow readers/ researchers will immediately start accusing the Phoenicians of worshiping Satan. But they are forgetting this is Roman era, where a lot of Greek/Hellenistic migrants were living in what was known as the Colony of Heliopolis = a Roman city. But this is a story for another time.

“From Syria her worship extended to Greece and to the furthest West. Lucian[ and Apuleius give descriptions of the beggar-priests who went round the great cities with an image of the goddess on an ass and collected money. The wide extension of the cult is attributable largely to Syrian merchants; thus we find traces of it in the great seaport towns; at Delos especially numerous inscriptions have been found bearing witness to her importance. Again we find the cult in Sicily, introduced, no doubt, by slaves and mercenary troops, who carried it even to the farthest northern limits of the Roman Empire. The leader of the rebel slaves in the First Servile War, a Syrian named Eunus, claimed to receive visions of Atargatis, whom he identified with the Demeter of Enna.”

>> Her cult spread to Greece via the Hittites, don’t forget that anons. And yes, the cult of the Evil Lady’s many forms was spread all over the Roman Empire. They worshiped her under her many forms and they knew exactly whom she was = their founding mother = their matriarch. I’m not saying these words out of nowhere anons. As an example, please go back to read Isis and see how she was confused to the Evil Lady during the Ptolemaic era because the Bloodlines of back then knew about the Evil Lady being one of the Evil Couple = one of the pillars of (((their))) cult.

There is a slight possibility that the cult of Atargatis was associated with that of Demeter because of the veil = both ladies wear veils. This doesn’t mean they are the same deity. Not necessarily. We need more common elements to say they are the same.

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2e7d5e  No.14585528

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>>14577555

(Please read from the start)

“Syncretism

In many cases Atargatis, ‘Ashtart, and other goddesses who once had independent cults and mythologies became fused to such an extent as to be indistinguishable. This fusion is exemplified by the Carnion temple, which is probably identical with the famous temple of ‘Ashtart at Ashtaroth-Karnaim. Atargatis generally appears as the wife of Hadad. They are the protecting deities of the community. Atargatis, wearing a mural crown, is the ancestor the royal house, the founder of social and religious life, the goddess of generation and fertility (hence the prevalence of phallic emblems), and the inventor of useful appliances. Not unnaturally she is identified with the Greek Aphrodite. By the conjunction of these many functions, despite originating as a sea deity analogous to Amphitrite, she becomes ultimately a great nature-goddess, analogous to Cybele and Rhea: In one aspect she typifies the protection of water in producing life; in another, the universal of other-earth; in a third (influenced, no doubt, by Chaldean astrology), the power of Destiny. She was also identified with Hera by Lucian in his De Dea Syria.”

>> NICE. Very nicely written. This is a good paragraph ^_^ I like it . By the way, when they say here that Atargatis has the power of “Destiny”, you think (((they))) misattributed the power of Neith to her?

“Mythology

“The legends are numerous and of an astrological character. A rationale for the Syrian dove-worship and abstinence from fish is seen in the story in Athenaeus 8.37, where Atargatis is naively explained to mean "without Gatis", the name of a queen who is said to have forbidden the eating of fish. Thus Diodorus Siculus (2.4.2), quoting Ctesias, tells how Derceto fell in love with a youth and became by him the mother of a child and how in shame Derceto flung herself into a lake near Ascalon and her body was changed into the form of a fish though her head remained human. Derceto's child grew up to become Semiramis, the Assyrian queen. In another story, told by Hyginus, an egg fell from the sky into the Euphrates, was rolled onto land by fish, doves settled on it and hatched it, and Venus, known as the Syrian goddess, came forth.”

>> This paragraph is a pure gem:

Atargatis is said to be a queen and we know that the Evil Lady is a Sebetti queen, a minor queen. She was forbidden to eat FISH. I don’t think here the FISH as an animal is meant. There is this possibility they are talking about the Fish men = the Spiritual Healers. Why am I thinking this way? It’s because we know that Seth along with his con-conspirators ate the flesh of Osiris. And I think the King of kings was the head of the Fish men: the Spiritual Healers. This makes Him the top fish out there as in the top Spiritual Healer. This is a theory of mine, and of course this is from a late date as anons can see. So we gotta be careful.

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2e7d5e  No.14585534

>>14585528

(Please read from the start)

Diodorus Sicullus is echoing what I’ve been talking about all along: The Evil Duo were a couple and they had a child together. Here, the Evil Lady is called Decreto. I don’t think the Evil Lady felt any SHAME out of her relationship with the Evil One. I mean, when you think about it, this gal is a pedovore. To be a pedovore, she dumped shame, guilt and regret in the garbage bin a long time ago along with her moral and consciousness. This is why I think this is pointing out at the TYPE of relationship the Evil Couple had together = a shameful type relationship. If it was a normal man meeting a normal woman and having a relationship with her, then there is nothing to be ashamed of here. So what can be considered as a shameful relationship between a man and a woman? Well, I can come up with 2 possibilities:

1 – She is cheating on her husband with another man. Back in the days, this was considered something shameful.

2 – She is have a forbidden relationship with a close relative = incest.

Which is it? Well, we’ve been dancing around the second possibility in this thread for some time now. As for the first possibility, it was mentioned a few times in the information that came out while taking a look at the Evil Lady. So could it both? Was she already married to another man when she was seduced by the Evil One? I don’tknow, but with these 2 crazy perverts, anything is possible. I’m not ruling out anything.

Next they mention about Decreto throwing herself into the sea: here, I don’t think she really and literally threw herself into the sea, but I see the Flood in it; as in she was there when the Flood happened. As for her changing into a fish or having the lower part of her body as a fish…well, as I’ve said many times before, I’m uncertain of this point since it could be interpreted in many forms. It can also mean that she rode the Flood = boarded the Ark. It’s hard to know accurately what this means. I always feel like I’m close to crack it but I’m not there yet.

Then we are told that the child this couple had was a female and she became the queen Semiramis. You see, why I’m unsure if Lamashtu is the Evil Lady or her daughter. And on that relief on page 790 of Nergal and the Lady in Red…I’m unsure if it’s the Evil Lady or her daughter.

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df19bb  No.14593335

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>>14585534

(Please read from the start)

I’ve been wondering ever since me and some anons dug about New York, why Salvador Dali was so obsessed with eggs. Is the “Egg” related to the cult of the Evil Lady? We also know there is an “egg” involved with the story of Ogo from the Dogon people. I’ve mentioned it and talked about it already.

What does Hyginus mean when he says in his story that an “EGG fell from the sky”? Can an actual egg fall from the sky? Of course not, because the egg cannot fly of itself. So this means the egg here is a symbolic representation of something else. I love it how Hyginus say the egg rolled out of the Euphrates.

After reading this, I think it fits with what was said in the Epic of Gilgamesh of Ishtar – page 41, line 10 – it is said that the god retreated UP to the Anu Heaven = they FLEW away. So if I combine this with the EGG falling down from the sky = are they talking about the ARK here? Does the EGG represent a boat here?

Now, go back to page 15 (starting) and take a look at the Kuphar boat. That’s what used to come down from the Euphrates, matching the words of Hyginus and strangely, the kuphar looks like half an egg. Not convinced? Then go back to the bronze Plaque from the Hells – starting page 960 – and take a look shape of the kuphar boat Lamashtu is using. If you are still not convinced take a look at the pictures of page 19.

I’m saying the chances are high that the Egg Hyginus is talking about coming down on the Euphrates is none other than the Kuphar boat on which the Evil Lady was on. Also do you remember what I said about the traders “navigating” using the Kuphar? They didn’t need to row their way down, all they had to do is to make sure to stay away from boulders and away from the river edges and let the water current take them down slowly downstream. This is why Hyginus said that the “Egg” was “rolled” to the land by the fish = no rowing needed.

The next part of the sentence is a mystery, even to me. Why did he say that doves sat on the boat and Venus = the Evil Lady = Atargatis = Inanna = Lilith came out of it? I still don’t fully understand the meaning behind the doves. Regardless…. This is confirmation that the Evil Lady was on board of the Ark which rested on Mt Ararat and then as we saw it on the bronze Plaque from Hell, she came downstream Euphrates on the Kuphar.

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df19bb  No.14593344

>>14593335

(Please read from the start)

“The author of Catasterismi explained the constellation of Piscis Austrinus as the parent of the two fish making up the constellation of Pisces; according to that account, it was placed in the heavens in memory of Derceto's fall into the lake at Hierapolis Bambyce near the Euphrates in Syria, from which she was saved by a large fish — which again is intended to explain the Syrian abstinence from fish.”

>> We’ve seen Piscis Austrinus before in this thread – page 724 – the good old eye of Sauron looking like constellation ^_^ It’s nice when the puzzle pieces start to come together, doesn’t it anons? As for the rest of what was said here, I think I’ve already explained enough, so I’m not going to repeat myself. And I’m still not sure about the dove or the fish. There are so many possibilities here, I rather gather more information.

“Ovid in his Metamorphoses (5.331) relates that Venus took the form of a fish to hide from Typhon. In his Fasti (2.459-.474) Ovid instead relates how Dione, by whom Ovid intends Venus/Aphrodite, fleeing from Typhon with her child Cupid/Eros came to the river Euphrates in Syria. Hearing the wind suddenly rise and fearing that it was Typhon, the goddess begged aid from the river nymphs and leapt into the river with her son. Two fish bore them up and were rewarded by being transformed into the constellation Pisces — and for that reason the Syrians will eat no fish.”

>> I always thought Typhon was evil. I never thought of the possibility of him being a ThunderBird. But…. Can I truly rely on this? Because it’s Ovid writing here, as in this is terribly late as a source. What I like here are 2 details which match everything else that I’ve been talking about:

1 – The Evil Lady came downstream Euphrates.

2 – She had her child with her and this time it’s a boy, not a girl.

I’ve been talking about the child of the Evil Couple for some time now but it’s terribly hard to figure out anything about the kid, apart that it’s existed. Despite having 2 “late” sources indicating the Evil Lady had ONE child (each giving a different gender for that child), the bronze Plaque of the Hells is showing us that Lamashtu had 2 children, not ONE. And when you look closely, these children are not depicted in the same way: each represent a different animal. Meaning these 2 children were different and not identical = most probably pointing to different genders. It’s highly possible, she had twins: a boy and a girl. I rather rely on archaeology than on written sources in such situations. But I also know it’s wiser to gather more information and not rush into conclusion about this issue. It’s a very complex and difficult one to untangle.

“A recent analysis of the cult of Atargatis is an essay by Per Bilde, in which Atargatis appears in the context of other Hellenized Great Goddesses of the East.”

>> You wanna mess your research = use the Bible. This is a trap anons, be careful.

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df19bb  No.14593351

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>>14593344

(Please read from the start)

“Priesthood

During the Roman era, eunuch priests worshipped Atargatis. Similar to the Galli priests of Cybele. At the shrine in Hieropolis founded by Semiramis, eunuch priests served the image of a fish-tailed woman. Rituals to the goddess were accompanied by flute playing and rattle shaking. In one rite, young males castrated themselves to become cross-dressing priests at the temple and thereafter performed tasks usually done by women. The obligatory lake or pond lay nearby, full of sacred fish which no one was allowed to eat; nor could anyone eat Atargatis's sacred doves. The priests were described by Apuleius as mendicants that traveled around with an image of the goddess dressed in a silken robe on the back of a donkey. When they arrived at village squares or a receptive estate they would perform an ecstatic rite, designed to attract a crowd and elicit their contributions. The priests were described as effeminate, wearing heavy makeup, turbans on their heads, and dressed in saffron colored robes of silk and linen; some in white tunics painted with purple stripes. They shouted and danced wildly to the music of flutes, whirling around with necks bent so that their long hair flew out; and in an ecstatic frenzy they would bite their own flesh and cut their arms with knives until they bled.”

>> Do anons remember what I said about the transgender subject when we were taking a look at Inanna? Her cult is the starting point of all this gender stuff (including what we have nowadays with gender issues). See how Atargatis is Inanna and is the Evil Lady. Here, in this paragraph it’s very obvious.

The priests played the flute and they used rattles. When taking a look at the Sistrum in Ancient Egypt (starting page), I was in the mindset that the Sistrum might be an imitation to the crackling sound electricity of the special weapons made. Here, I am saying the same thing = I think the priests are imitating the crackling sound made of the electricity which comes either from the Staff weapon or the horns of the Antelope armor.Don’t forget this was taking place at a late date, centuries had passed already.

And here we have a very good example of how the cult of the Evil Lady = Inanna = Atargatis, spread in the entire Middle East = her priests were travelers. Do I need to explain what “ecstatic rites” are? It’s a polite form to describe sexual behavior.

Turbans!!! This is unexpected, even for me. But now I understand why they were so trendy among the British aristocrats in the 19th century. I always thought the turban was trendy among the nobility in England because of their connection to India and all of that. But now… my thoughts are going in every direction.

It’s obvious her cult was all about human sacrifice. Why do I say that? Do tell me why does her priests “cut” themselves, bite themselves till they bleed? Along with dancing “widely” which reminds of the Bacchanalia and Rothschild ball by the way. Why is it important for Blood to come out from the flesh of her priests? If this is done in public, then…..what the heck are they doing in private?

As for the “hair dance”; Saudi Arabia is famous for having a “hair dance” as part of their folklore/tradition. Are these the “traces” of the cult of Attar in the Arabian Peninsula?

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df19bb  No.14593362

>>14593351

(Please read from the start)

“According to a story retold by Lucian, the Assyrian queen Stratonice saw in a vision that she must build a temple at Hieropolis to the goddess and so the king sent her there with a young man named Combabus to execute the task. Knowing the queen's reputation Combabus castrated himself and left his genitals, sealed in a box. When the queen fell in love with Combabus and tried to seduce him, he revealed his mutilation, but this didn't dissuade her from desiring his constant companionship. When Stratonice and Combabus returned home, she accused him of trying to seduce her, and Combabus was arrested, tried, and sentenced to death. Combabus called for the sealed box to prove his innocence, where upon the king relented and rewarded Combabus for his loyalty. The temple was completed and a statue of Combabus was placed in it. This is said to be the origin of the practice of castration by the priests in the temple.

Another story ascribed to Combabus mentions that a certain foreign woman who had joined a sacred assembly, beholding a human form of extreme beauty and dressed in man's attire, became violently enamoured of him: after discovering that he was a eunuch, she committed suicide. Combabus accordingly in despair at his incapacity for love, donned woman's attire, so that no woman in future might be deceived in the same way.”

>> This is how Lucian interpretedit, this is his take on the matter. But I personally think the castration is the symbol of the infertility of the Evil One. He could have kids, but with great difficulty due to his illness. I think that is the origin of all the castration stories we are going to encounter in this thread.

As for the temple of Artemis at Ephesus, I’m not going to tackle it now. If it’s needed, I will check it out when I enter another digging tunnel. Because all the digging tunnels will converge eventually anons. I’ve got multi-entry point on my hands in this dig.

This is all for Atargatis. And I’m going also to stop for NOW, here about the Evil Lady. I think anons now have a very very good idea what this is all about and about her personality and how to recognize her and her cult. If interested, anons can go check all the mutated forms of her and her cult, all over the world. Be careful while working.

Where I am right now with the Evil Lady = this digging tunnel, connects to where I stopped on page 1 177. These 2 digging tunnels connect.

Now, before I move on to the next section, I want to rewind all the way up to Pazuzu – page 949 – and I would like for anons to go read the following, in the order I’m putting the links in please.

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df19bb  No.14593368

File: 058b8f2b4d6b611⋯.jpg (148.87 KB, 894x1296, 149:216, The_Exorcist_William_Peter….jpg)

File: f99c0729c21a83d⋯.jpg (19.46 KB, 338x500, 169:250, The_Exorcist_movie_poster.jpg)

>>14593362

(Please read from the start)

There is a notable in that page from Pazuzu which lead me into a digging tunnel. I ask anons whom are interested to read it so they would see for themselves whom was running the show and how the manipulation was done, even in the world of archaeology. This doesn’t mean the information we are getting is wrong though. This only means the interpretation we are given is manipulated and the truth is kept from us. We can always go back to the artifact = the object itself and check things out. I’ve done this many times already in this thread and relied on the artifact as my source and didn’t rely to what the Main Stream History and the so called experts are telling me. And now I’m going to give you a glimpse on whom “these so called experts” are. I’m just going to put the most important parts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exorcist_(novel)

“[…]

Inspiration

Aspects of the character Father Merrin were based on the British archaeologist Gerald Lankester Harding, who had excavated the caves where the Dead Sea Scrolls had been found and whom Blatty had met in Beirut. Blatty has stated that Harding "was the physical model in my mind when I created the character [of Merrin], whose first name, please note, is Lankester."

Aspects of the novel were inspired by an exorcism performed by the Jesuit priest, Fr. William S. Bowdern, who formerly taught at both St. Louis University and St. Louis University High School. Recent investigative research by freelance journalist Mark Opsasnick indicates that this was the real 1949 exorcism of a young boy from Cottage City, Maryland, whom Opsasnick refers to using the pseudonyms Robbie Mannheim and Roland Doe. The boy was sent to his relative's home on Roanoke Drive in St. Louis where most of the exorcism took place.

[…].”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exorcist_(film)

“[…]

The Exorcist was released in 24 theaters in the United States and Canada in late December. Despite mixed critical reviews, audiences flocked to it, waiting in long lines during winter weather and many doing so more than once. Some viewers suffered adverse physical reactions, fainting or vomiting to scenes in which the protagonist undergoes a realistic cerebral angiography and later violently masturbates with a crucifix. Heart attacks and miscarriages were reported; a psychiatric journal published a paper on "cinematic neurosis" triggered by the film. Many children were allowed to see the film, leading to charges that the MPAA ratings board had accommodated Warner Brothers by giving the film an R-rating instead of the X-rating they thought it deserved, in order to ensure its commercial success. Several cities attempted to ban it outright or prevent children from attending.

[…] In 2010, the Library of Congress selected the film to be preserved in its National Film Registry, citing it as "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".”

>> Potus has a lot of cleaning up to do in the Library of Congress.

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a5c020  No.14600655

File: b3746f63fbc4fb9⋯.jpg (64.78 KB, 640x640, 1:1, Hardings_Transjordan_ident….jpg)

>>14593368

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Lankester_Harding

“Gerald Lankester Harding (8 December 1901 – 11 February 1979) was a British archaeologist who was the director of the Department of Antiquities of Jordan from 1936 to 1956. His tenure spanned the period in which the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered and brought to public awareness. Without his efforts many of the scrolls might have disappeared into private collections never to be seen again.

Life

Harding was born in Tientsin, North China in 1901, but spent his childhood from age two to 13 in Singapore. He returned to the UK with his parents in 1913, but his father was killed in World War I, and Harding earned his living in a number of jobs from the ages of 16 to 25. During this time, he became fascinated by Egyptian hieroglyphics and eventually joined the evening classes run by the distinguished Egyptologist Dr Margaret Murray. Recognising his brilliance, she encouraged him to write to Sir Flinders Petrie and apply to go on one of his excavations.

In 1926, Petrie was excavating at Tell Jemmeh, near Gaza in southern Palestine, where Harding joined him. Harding's archaeological talents quickly became apparent and with James Leslie Starkey and Olga Tufnell, he became one of a band of young archaeologists known as 'Petrie's pups'. While on the excavations, he quickly learned spoken Arabic from the local Bedouin and spoke their dialect throughout his life despite living in Amman and Lebanon in later years. He also taught himself written Arabic. Harding and the other 'pups' worked with Petrie at Tell Jemmeh, Tell Fara and Tall al-Ajjul between 1926 and 1931, but in 1932 they began a major excavation of their own, under Starkey's direction, at Tell ed-Duweir (Biblical Lachish), where the famous "Lachish Letters", written in the Palaeo-Hebrew script on pot sherds were found. With Olga Tufnell and Charles Inge, Harding was responsible for the second volume of the Final Report.

[…]

In 1948, Harding learned of the existence of the Dead Sea Scrolls from a report in an archaeological journal. As they were found in his jurisdiction, he immediately set out to rescue as many of them as possible and to discover their archaeological context in order to preserve the important information they might yield. In his capacity as acting curator of the Palestine Archaeological Museum (now the Rockefeller Museum) in Jerusalem, he used that institution to aid in the search for the origin of the scrolls. Working with the American School of Oriental Research and the École biblique et archéologique française in Jerusalem, he negotiated access to the scrolls and their point of origin, and he organized funding to purchase them from the Bedouin who originally found them. With Père Roland de Vaux, Harding then organized a panel of brilliant young scholars to work on the scrolls, including Josef Milik, John Strugnell, and John Allegro.”

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a5c020  No.14600662

File: 7d9087473f3b1e3⋯.png (228.53 KB, 400x624, 25:39, G_L_Harding.png)

>>14600655

(Please read from the start)

“In 1948, Harding and de Vaux finally learned the location of the cave from which the scrolls had come, and together they excavated it. Subsequently, they investigated the settlement site of Qumran and examined two tombs in the Qumran Cemetery. In February 1952, he was involved with de Vaux in the excavation of caves in Wadi Murabba'at. Harding continued to oversee the matters regarding Qumran and the scrolls until 1956 when the Suez Crisis occurred, he together with John Bagot Glubb (Glubb Pasha) and all the remaining British officials were dismissed by the Jordanian government.

Harding moved to Lebanon where he lived for the next 20 years. At some point, Harding met the American author William Peter Blatty in Beirut, and Blatty has stated that Harding "was the physical model in my mind when I created the character of Father Merrin [from The Exorcist], whose first name, please note, is Lankester."

In 1959, Harding published The Antiquities of Jordan, an overview of the many and varied archaeological sites of Jordan, which includes a chapter on Qumran, and which remained the most popular guidebook to Jordan for several decades.

The same year, Harding was asked by the British government to conduct the first major archaeological survey in the Aden Protectorate (southern Yemen). This he did and published his results in his book Archaeology in the Aden Protectorate. He also helped to set up and organise the Aden Museum and to secure for it and catalog the famous Muncherjee collection of ancient South Arabian antiquities.

[…]

Harding died in London, where he had been sent for medical treatment. However, as a mark of respect for the service he had given to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, his ashes were returned to Jordan and by permission of the authorities were buried overlooking the archaeological site at Jerash.

[…]”

>> That’s an incredible rare honor to be burried in Jerash. Anyone noticed he’s connected to the Dead Sea Scrolls ? Look in the next page whom was one of his teachers.

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91cc1f  No.14607905

File: e128974ae99a7ce⋯.jpg (156.15 KB, 509x636, 509:636, Margaret_Murray_1928.jpg)

>>14600662

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Murray

“Margaret Alice Murray (13 July 1863 – 13 November 1963) was an Anglo-Indian Egyptologist, archaeologist, anthropologist, historian, and folklorist. The first woman to be appointed as a lecturer in archaeology in the United Kingdom, she worked at University College London (UCL) from 1898 to 1935. She served as President of the Folklore Society from 1953 to 1955, and published widely over the course of her career.

Born to a wealthy middle-class English family in Calcutta, British India, Murray divided her youth between India, Britain, and Germany, training as both a nurse and a social worker. Moving to London, in 1894 she began studying Egyptology at UCL, developing a friendship with department head Flinders Petrie, who encouraged her early academic publications and appointed her Junior Professor in 1898. In 1902–03 she took part in Petrie's excavations at Abydos, Egypt, there discovering the Osireion temple and the following season investigated the Saqqara cemetery, both of which established her reputation in Egyptology. Supplementing her UCL wage by giving public classes and lectures at the British Museum and Manchester Museum, it was at the latter in 1908 that she led the unwrapping of Khnum-nakht, one of the mummies recovered from the Tomb of the Two Brothers – the first time that a woman had publicly unwrapped a mummy. Recognising that British Egyptomania reflected the existence of a widespread public interest in Ancient Egypt, Murray wrote several books on Egyptology targeted at a general audience.

Murray also became closely involved in the first-wave feminist movement, joining the Women's Social and Political Union and devoting much time to improving women's status at UCL. Unable to return to Egypt due to the First World War, she focused her research on the witch-cult hypothesis, the theory that the witch trials of Early Modern Christendom were an attempt to extinguish a surviving pre-Christian, pagan religion devoted to a Horned God. Although later academically discredited, the theory gained widespread attention and proved a significant influence on the emerging new religious movement of Wicca. From 1921 to 1931 Murray undertook excavations of prehistoric sites on Malta and Menorca and developed her interest in folkloristics. Awarded an honorary doctorate in 1927, she was appointed Assistant Professor in 1928 and retired from UCL in 1935. That year she visited Palestine to aid Petrie's excavation of Tall al-Ajjul and in 1937 she led a small excavation at Petra in Jordan. Taking on the presidency of the Folklore Society in later life, she lectured at such institutions as the University of Cambridge and City Literary Institute, and continued to publish in an independent capacity until her death.

Murray's work in Egyptology and archaeology was widely acclaimed and earned her the nickname of "The Grand Old Woman of Egyptology", although after her death many of her contributions to the field were overshadowed by those of Petrie. Conversely, Murray's work in folkloristics and the history of witchcraft has been academically discredited and her methods in these areas heavily criticised. The influence of her witch-cult theory in both religion and literature has been examined by various scholars, and she herself has been dubbed the "Grandmother of Wicca".”

>> This gal is a MUST read. It’s a MUST read.

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91cc1f  No.14607908

File: ae266657a4e57be⋯.jpg (14.71 KB, 640x469, 640:469, Margaret_Murray_interviewe….jpg)

>>14607905

(Please read from the start)

“Later life

Witch-cult, Malta, and Menorca: 1921–35

As a result of her work in this area, she was invited to provide the entry on "witchcraft" for the fourteenth edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica in 1929. She used the opportunity to propagate her own witch-cult theory, failing to mention the alternate theories proposed by other academics. Her entry would be included in the encyclopedia until 1969, becoming readily accessible to the public, and it was for this reason that her ideas on the subject had such a significant impact. It received a particularly enthusiastic reception by occultists such as Dion Fortune, Lewis Spence, Ralph Shirley, and J. W. Brodie Innes, perhaps because its claims regarding an ancient secret society chimed with similar claims common among various occult groups. Murray joined the Folklore Society in February 1927, and was elected to the society's council a month later, although she stood down in 1929. Murray reiterated her witch-cult theory in her 1933 book, The God of the Witches, which was aimed at a wider, non-academic audience. In this book, she cut out or toned down what she saw as the more unpleasant aspects of the witch-cult, such as animal and child sacrifice, and began describing the religion in more positive terms as "the Old Religion".

[…]

Argument

In The Witch-Cult in Western Europe, Murray stated that she had restricted her research to Great Britain, although made some recourse to sources from France, Flanders, and New England.[109] She drew a division between what she termed "Operative Witchcraft", which referred to the performance of charms and spells with any purpose, and "Ritual Witchcraft", by which she meant "the ancient religion of Western Europe", a fertility-based faith that she also termed "the Dianic cult". She claimed that the cult had "very probably" once been devoted to the worship of both a male deity and a "Mother Goddess" but that "at the time when the cult is recorded the worship of the male deity appears to have superseded that of the female". In her argument, Murray claimed that the figure referred to as the Devil in the trial accounts was the witches' god, "manifest and incarnate", to whom the witches offered their prayers. She claimed that at the witches' meetings, the god would be personified, usually by a man or at times by a woman or an animal; when a human personified this entity, Murray claimed that they were usually dressed plainly, though they appeared in full costume for the witches' Sabbaths.

Members joined the cult either as children or adults through what Murray called "admission ceremonies"; Murray asserted that applicants had to agree to join of their own free will, and agree to devote themselves to the service of their deity. She also claimed that in some cases, these individuals had to sign a covenant or were baptised into the faith. At the same time, she claimed that the religion was largely passed down hereditary lines. Murray described the religion as being divided into covens containing thirteen members, led by a coven officer who was often termed the "Devil" in the trial accounts, but who was accountable to a "Grand Master".According to Murray, the records of the coven were kept in a secret book, with the coven also disciplining its members, to the extent of executing those deemed traitors.

Describing this witch-cult as "a joyous religion",she claimed that the two primary festivals that it celebrated were on May Eve and November Eve, although that other dates of religious observation were 1 February and 1 August, the winter and summer solstices, and Easter. She asserted that the "General Meeting of all members of the religion" were known as Sabbaths, while the more private ritual meetings were known as Esbats. The Esbats, Murray claimed, were nocturnal rites that began at midnight, and were "primarily for business, whereas the Sabbath was purely religious". At the former, magical rites were performed both for malevolent and benevolent ends. She also asserted that the Sabbath ceremonies involved the witches paying homage to the deity, renewing their "vows of fidelity and obedience" to him, and providing him with accounts of all the magical actions that they had conducted since the previous Sabbath. Once this business had been concluded, admissions to the cult or marriages were conducted, ceremonies and fertility rites took place, and then the Sabbath ended with feasting and dancing.”

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91cc1f  No.14607912

File: b6b521f92781314⋯.jpg (390.48 KB, 800x939, 800:939, Nuremberg_chronicles_Devil….jpg)

>>14607908

(Please read from the start)

“Deeming Ritual Witchcraft to be "a fertility cult", she asserted that many of its rites were designed to ensure fertility and rain-making. She claimed that there were four types of sacrifice performed by the witches: blood-sacrifice, in which the neophyte writes their name in blood; the sacrifice of animals; the sacrifice of a non-Christian child to procure magical powers; and the sacrifice of the witches' god by fire to ensure fertility. She interpreted accounts of witches shapeshifting into various animals as being representative of a rite in which the witches dressed as specific animals which they took to be sacred. She asserted that accounts of familiars were based on the witches' use of animals, which she divided into "divining familiars" used in divination and "domestic familiars" used in other magic rites.

Murray asserted that a pre-Christian fertility-based religion had survived the Christianization process in Britain, although that it came to be "practised only in certain places and among certain classes of the community".She believed that folkloric stories of fairies in Britain were based on a surviving race of dwarfs, who continued to live on the island up until the Early Modern period. She asserted that this race followed the same pagan religion as the witches, thus explaining the folkloric connection between the two. In the appendices to the book, she also alleged that Joan of Arc and Gilles de Rais were members of the witch-cult and were executed for it, a claim which has been refuted by historians, especially in the case of Joan of Arc

[…]

In this book she began to refer to the witches' deity as the Horned God, and asserted that it was an entity who had been worshipped in Europe since the Palaeolithic. She further asserted that in the Bronze Age, the worship of the deity could be found throughout Europe, Asia, and parts of Africa, claiming that the depiction of various horned figures from these societies proved that. Among the evidence cited were the horned figures found at Mohenjo-Daro, which are often interpreted as depictions of Pashupati, as well as the deities Osiris and Amon in Egypt and the Minotaur of Minoan Crete. Within continental Europe, she claimed that the Horned God was represented by Pan in Greece, Cernunnos in Gaul, and in various Scandinavian rock carvings. Claiming that this divinity had been declared the Devil by the Christian authorities, she nevertheless asserted that his worship was testified in officially Christian societies right through to the Modern period, citing folkloric practices such as the Dorset Ooser and the Puck Fair as evidence of his veneration.”

>> I’m saying it one more time: this old gal is a MUST read for anons.

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91cc1f  No.14607913

File: 80d2360b712df4b⋯.jpg (23.06 KB, 316x400, 79:100, Flinders_Petrie.jpg)

>>14607912

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flinders_Petrie

“Academic career

In 1913 Petrie sold his large collection of Egyptian antiquities to University College, London, where it is now housed in the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology. One of his trainees, Howard Carter, went on to discover the tomb of Tutankhamun in 1922.

[…]

Archaeology career

Giza survey

His father had corresponded with Piazzi Smyth about his theories of the Great Pyramid and Petrie travelled to Egypt in early 1880 to make an accurate survey of Giza, making him the first to properly investigate how the pyramids there were constructed; many theories had been advanced on this, and Petrie read them all, but none was based on first hand observation or logic. […]”

Discovery of the 'Israel' or Merneptah stele

In early 1896, Petrie and his archaeological team were conducting excavations on a temple in Petrie's area of concession at Luxor. This temple complex was located just north of the original funerary temple of Amenhotep III, which had been built on a flood plain.They were initially surprised that this building which they were excavating

was also attributed to Amenophis III since only his name appeared on blocks strewn over the site…Could one king have had two mortuary temples? Petrie dug and soon solved the puzzle: the temple had been built by Merneptah or Merenptah, the son and successor of Ramesses II, almost entirely from stone which had been plundered from the temple of Amenophis III nearby. Statues of the latter had been smashed and the pieces thrown into the foundations; fragments of couchant stone jackals, which must have once formed an imposing avenue approaching the pylon, and broken drums gave some idea of the splendour of the original temple. A statue of Merneptah himself was found—the first known portrait of this king….Better was to follow: two splendid stelae were found, both of them usurped on the reverse side by Merneptah, who had turned them face to the wall. One, beautifully carved, showed Amenophis III in battle with Nubians and Syrians; the other, of black granite, was over ten feet high, larger than any stela previously known; the original text commemorated the building achievements of Amenophis and described the beauties and magnificence of the temple in which it had stood. When it could be turned over, an inscription of Merneptah was revealed, recording his triumphs over the Libyans and the Peoples of the Sea; [Wilhelm] Spiegelberg [a noted German philologist] came over to read it, and near the end of the text he was puzzled by one name, that of a people or tribe whom Merenptah had victoriously smitten-"I.si.ri.ar?" It was Petrie whose quick imaginative mind leapt to the solution: "Israel!" Spiegelberg agreed that it must be so. "Won't the reverends be pleased?" was his comment. At dinner that evening Petrie prophesied: "This stele will be better known in the world than anything else I have found." It was the first mention of the word "Israel" in any Egyptian text and the news made headlines when it reached the English papers.

[…]”

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91cc1f  No.14607914

File: 12bfaeed54c8b56⋯.jpg (32.47 KB, 576x392, 72:49, Flinders_Petrie_and_Hilda_….jpg)

>>14607913

(Please read from the start)

“Move to Jerusalem

In 1933, on retiring from his professorship, he moved permanently to Jerusalem, where he lived with Lady Petrie at the British School of Archaeology, then temporarily headquartered at the American School of Oriental Research (today the W. F. Albright Institute of Archaeological Research).

Death and preservation of head

Petrie died in Jerusalem on 28 July 1942. His body was interred in the Protestant Cemetery on Mount Zion, but he donated his head (and thus his brain) to the Royal College of Surgeons of London. World War II was then at its height, and the head was delayed in transit. After being stored in a jar in the college basement, its label fell off and no one knew to whom the head belonged. However, it was eventually identified, and is now stored, but not displayed, at the Royal College of Surgeons.”

>> No need for comments. It’s very clear whom he was, just look at the high honor he got = burried at Mt Zion.

“[…]

Racist and anti-democratic views

Petrie remains controversial for his anti-democratic and pro-eugenics racial views, and was a dedicated believer in the superiority of the Northern peoples over the Latinate and Southern peoples. These views spilled over into his academic opinions. Believing that society is the product of racial biology, he contended that the culture of Ancient Egypt was derived from an invading Caucasoid "Dynastic Race", which had entered Egypt from the south in late predynastic times, conquered the "inferior, exhausted mulatto" natives, and slowly introduced the higher Dynastic civilisation as it interbred with them. Petrie engaged in fierce controversies with the British Museum's Egyptology expert E. A. Wallis Budge, who contended that the religion of the Egyptians was not introduced by invaders, but was essentially identical to that of the people of northeastern and central Africa; however, most of their colleagues judged Petrie's opinion to be more "scientific".

[…]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Petrie

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91cc1f  No.14607919

>>14607914

(Please read from the start)

A quick read into: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Leslie_Starkey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Tufnell

“Expeditions

[…]

In 1932, Starkey secured funding from Charles Marston and Henry Wellcome to start an expedition apart from the Petries, which Olga joined. The Wellcome-Marston expedition was to focus on the excavation of the ancient city of Lachish, a stronghold mentioned in the Bible. Over the next six years, the team made some important finds, including the Lachish letters, but the work was interrupted by the murder of Starkey, while he was en route to the opening of the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem. The remaining team finished during the 1938/9 season, then closed the site. Olga wrote the final report.

[…]

Later life

[…] In 1983, 50 years after the initial excavations, Olga was invited back to the site of Lachish, to see the more modern excavations by University of Tel Aviv. There she was greeted by 200 local archaeologists, who welcomed her enthusiastically.”

>> I bet they did.

I barely scratched the surface of it all. It’s just a quick look to show anons whom was running the “show” and how the artifacts “were taken” and by “WHOM”. This is the British clan team. And we’ve encountered a few from the French clan team, like Mariette etc. I left clues for anons on some pictures as well as here and there. For those whom are interested in such digs.

I put this so that anons can see and understand whom wrote those reports, whom “explained” to the public what the excavated artifacts are and whom wrote those nice, cute little tags in the museums as well as whom wrote the “notes” in catalogues. Be careful when working, research everything. If there is something you don’t understand dig deep. And always remember, not because the object looks that specific way it means it’s what you think.

As an example, I can give you the oil lamp depicted twice on the bronze Plaque of the Hells. For the average viewers that lamp looks like a sock, a shoe or a foot…but it’s not, you gotta view many catalogues of artifacts in order to determine it’s actually an oil lamp designed that way which was specific to the Mesopotamian region. It’s hard work for beginners. This needs loads of experience and you need to have a good memory, mostly a visual memory. But with time, you will get slowly acquainted with the artifacts and your “reservoir” of knowledge will be slowly filled. Whatever you do, do not rush, take your time and check things out.

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ac0b7b  No.14615593

>>14607919

(Please read from the start)

So far, I’ve checked out 3 Sebetti rulers and this is a quick summary of what I’ve got on them so far:

1 - I’ve already checked out and located a male Sebetti in the Andean region which was known as the Staff-God = Viracocha. Unfortunately, I don’t know much about him personally, apart that he was kind and against human sacrifice. He was a giant = taller than the average human and he used to wear a mask to hide his face. I don’t know his name, nor his heraldic animal symbol, nor his special ability.

2- I’ve already checked out the Queen of the queens, Neith. We don’t have her real name, but we have plenty of aspects of her along with her titles and epithets. She was in Ancient Egypt and she was the head as in the queen of the Lamassu Clan; as well as the Major Queen = spouse of the King of kings. She had special powers: she was a “seer”, she could see the past, possible future. And because of this oracle power combined with her strong will power, she could change Fate itself and bend the course of things. She is a mother for many royal children. I can confirm 2 at least, but she could be the mother of 5 as a maximum number of children. She was also a fierce warrior whom led the charge against the Evil Clan after the Cataclysm. We also found out she left the soil of Ancient Egypt and confronted her own daughter = the Evil Lad when the Phoenician City-States were attacked.

3 – I’ve already checked out the Evil Lady. We know she was in the Ark which landed on Mt Ararat in Armenia. She came out of it after the Cataclysm and settled at first somewhere, unknown exact location, in the Taurus mountain chain. Then when the Flood water receded she resettled somewhere in Mesopotamia. She was most probably the daughter of the Royal Couple and was a minor Sebetti queen. She was most likely the head of the Antelope Clan but it’s still unclear what her special ability was. She was young, naive and innocent at first.

At some point, she was seduced by the Evil One and turned into the Evil Lady. Her fragile relationship with her parents and her complex of inferiority was exploited and the cracks turned into an abyss of hate, spite and jealousy towards the Royal Couple and the Crown Prince. She became emotionally depended on the Evil One and she practiced with him the most horrible and vile things the reader can imagine. She plotted with him and others = probably vassals; as well as traitor recruits and spies from other clans. The Evil Couple wanted the throne, wanted to rule. Their relationship was not accepted because it was incest, most likely a brother/sister incest. The Evil Couple had at least one child together; despite both being pedovores. She attacked the Phoenician City-States, where she was confronted by her mother Neith. She is also associated to fertility by the Bloodlines = probably because she is the mother of monsters.

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ac0b7b  No.14615613

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>>14615593

(Please read from the start)

I’m going to work on the next section: The Evil One:

After reading about him being the lover of Lilith, let’s start by checking out Samael: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael

“Samael (Hebrew: סַמָּאֵל‎, Sammāʾēl, 'Venom of God, Poison of God'or 'Blindness of God, Left Hand of God'; Arabic: ‎, Samsama'il or ‎, Samail; alternatively Smil, Samil, or Samiel) is an archangel in Talmudic and post-Talmudic lore; a figure who is the accuser (Ha-Satan), seducer, and destroyer (Mashhit).”

>> Everything in those few lines fit perfectly with the information I’ve already gathered about the Evil One.

Venon of God, Poison of God: I’ve already been suspecting the Horned Serpent clan of having some type of poisonous ability as we’ve seen “petrification” mentioned, mostly with the Native American tales. We also know that one of the major Sebetti clans had its heraldic animal as a serpent; while we’ve seen some Scorpion warriors, probably a vassal clan. Both animals: serpent and scorpion, are known for the poisonous abilities.

Blindness of God: This is due to the blasters anons. On page 1 156, I’ve already talked about the blasters being also used to momentarily blind an opponent; working like a Stun grenade.

Left Hand of God: This could have 2 meaning:

A – Slight possibility this is pointing to the Hamsa; but I’m not leaning towards this possibility because both Serpent Sebetti armor gauntlets had blasters on them and not just the left hand.

B – He was not God’s RIGHT HAND MAN, but the LEFT HAND MAN. Usually, we say he is the Right hand man of a person, meaning: “a very important assistant who helps someone do a job He/She is the CEO's right-hand man”. While the Left hand man of a person means: “A person (especially a man) who serves as an assistant or helper to another”.

Both play the role of assisting, but the Right Hand man is higher in rank because he is more important. This is symbolic and it mirrors the use of the right hand in the human body whom is usually the dominant hand for most people (unless you are a lefty). This is why when we say a left hand man, meaning he is a simple assistant, not a major or important one.

For me, this is a projection of Samael being a Sebetti ruler = assisting the King of kings to rule. But he is not the TOP assistant of the King. There is someone above him in rank and position; and this extends to the military as well.

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fc1072  No.14622541

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>>14615613

(Please read from the start)

Samael is an Archangel in the Talmudic and post-Talmudic lore. Do I need to explain this one anons?

He is “a figure who is the accuser”: this one is incredibly hard to figure out. Accused or accuser? Was he accused? Or was he accusing someone else of something? Either way: what was this accusation about?

Oh! I do agree full heartedly about him being a seducer = he mostly seduced the naïve Sebetti queen and turned her into the Evil Lady. I also fully agree with the destroyer epithet since he destroyed many thing and many lives; in fact, I think he was most probably the one whom destroyed Atlantis with that explosion and triggered the Cataclysm. If he didn’t do it himself directly, then it was done in an indirect way. I still don’t know what exactly happened on that day. As I’ve said before, I only have the main lines = the general picture. Also, remember Valentine from the movie Mortal Instruments: City of Bones? What was written on his movie poster on page 1 129? See how it works?

“Although many of his functions resemble the Christian notion of Satan, to the point of being sometimes identified as a fallen angel, in others he is not necessarily evil, since his functions are also regarded as resulting in good, such as destroying sinners.”

>> LoL! This is the joke of the century. So killing millions of people is not a sin and not bad. Whom wrote this? I don’t mean the Wikipedia page, because this is obviously from a religious source. Was this the “excuse” or the explanation given by the Talmud to justice the murder of millions of innocent victims? This reminds me of how the Kabbalah justifies the murder of Osiris by Seth by saying that the king was cruel and bad. Same type of logic used here and there.

“He is considered in Talmudic texts to be a member of the heavenly host with often grim and destructive duties. One of Samael's greatest roles in Jewish lore is that of the main angel of death and the head of satans. Although he condones the sins of man, he remains one of God's servants. He appears frequently in the story of Garden of Eden and engineered the fall of Adam and Eve with a snake in writings during the Second Temple period. However, the serpent is not a form of Samael, but a beast he rode like a camel. In a single account he is also believed to be the father of Cain, as well as the partner of Lilith.”

>> He is considered as a “Heavenly host” because he was a Sebetti ruler. So what are these “grim and destructive duties” he had? Was he some type of executioner of the King of kings? Was he the head of the police or army? But…there is something here that doesn’t quite add up: see each Sebetti ruler had his/her own army, own City-States, own police, own clan. So here, I think they are talking about the Serpent Clan and how he behaved.

So it turns out this is all from Judaism, all of this information about Samael. Being the Angel of Death can mean he was some type of executioner (as a job) or he was of a destructive nature. Strangely, I think he might be both. Saying he was the head of satans in plural, this mean the word satan is not a name, but it’s pointing that Samael was the head of some type of a special group. I think this is indicating to the Serpent Sebetti warriors. And this word was later used just like the word Lilith = to indicate the evil warriors = the Horned Serpent warriors.

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8bf1e7  No.14622556

>>14622541

(Please read from the start)

It is said from writing dating back to the Second Temple era that Samael played a big role in the fall of Adam and Eve. It’s correct. Samael, Adam and the Serpent were one and the same individual = the Evil One, but seen in different aspects: One as the Sebetti ruler, one as a male – a man before his illness showed up, and one as his transformed new evil self in the form of the Serpent. So yes, he did engineer the fall of Adam and Eve because he was the one whom started everything and was probably the mastermind behind the entire coup. I also think since this is written dating back from the Second Temple time, (((they))) knew exactly whom Samael was, this is why in the next sentence you see (((them))) say that he was NOT the Serpent, but that thing was like a pet or a rider to him. (((They))) are trying to soften the image of Samael and trying to lessen his guilt and sin by saying he was not the responsible Serpent. He was the Serpent anons, (((they))) are just trying to manage the image of the Evil One here.

Now this is interesting. In a SINGLE account, he is thought to be the partner of Lilith = not her husband, but her partner, most probably in sex. And he is also considered from the same account as the Father of Cain…Remember Cain? Yes, the one whom murdered his own brother…that’s him. It’s getting interesting, isn’t it?

“As guardian angel and prince of Rome, he is the archenemy of Israel. By the beginning of Jewish culture in Europe, Samael had been established as a representative of Christianity, due to his identification with Rome.”

>> See how Satan = the Evil One got into the Church? And…it’s thanks to whom? He is also considered as the Prince of Rome because the Roman Empire was run by the Bloodlines of the day back then. The Roman Emperors were figure heads, most of them, just there to fill the seat in front of the public.

“In some Gnostic cosmologies, Samael's role as source of evil became identified with the Demiurge, the creator of the material world. Although probably both accounts originate from the same source, the Gnostic development differs from the Jewish development of Samael, in which Samael is merely an angel and servant of God.

Judaism

Second Temple period and posteriority

Samael was first mentioned during the Second Temple Period and immediately after its destruction. He is apparently first mentioned in the Book of Enoch along with other rebellious angels. In Enoch 1 he is one of the Watchers who descended to Earth to copulate with human women, although he is not their leader, this being Semyaza.”

>> Be careful of what is written in the book of Enoch. Also I take all of these as different aspects of the Evil One.

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7aede2  No.14628896

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>>14622556

(Please read from the start)

“In the Greek Apocalypse of Baruch, he is the dominant evil figure. Samael plants the Tree of knowledge, thereupon he is banished and cursed by God. To take revenge, he tempts Adam and Eve into sin by taking the form of the serpent.”

>> This is very clearly said here: The Evil One wanted to be King of kings as well as having the power of creating life itself. It was not possible, so he got spiteful towards our Heavenly Father. This was taking place while his illness was kicking in because it’s his illness which gives him all of these evil thoughts = delusional. So from the Adam he was turned into the evil Serpent and brought destruction to everyone.

“He appears further as the embodiment of evil in the Ascension of Isaiah, often identified as:

• Melkha Rah (Hebrew: מלך רע‎, melek ra, 'king of evil, 'king of the wicked');

• Malakh Rah / Malch Ra (מלאך רע‎, malakh/malach ra, 'messenger of evil' or 'angel of iniquity');

• Ba'al Kìr (prob. בעל קיר‎, baal qir, 'lord of the wall'); or

• B'chìr Rah (בחיר רע‎, bachir ra, 'the elect of evil, chosen by evil').

The names Belial and Satan are also applied to him and he gains control of King Manasseh in order to accuse Isaiah of treason.

Talmudic-Midrashic literature

In Talmudic-Midrashic literature, Samael's role as an agent of evil is rather marginal, but from the fifth or sixth century onward, this name again becomes one of the most prominent among the demonic entities.

In the Exodus Rabbah, Samael is depicted as the accuser in the heavenly court and tempting to sin, while Michael defends Israel's actions. Here, Samael is identified with Satan. While Satan describes his function as an "accuser," Samael is considered to be his proper name. He also fulfills the role of the Angel of Death, when he comes to take the soul of Moses and is called the leader of satans.

The title of satan is also applied to him in the midrash Pirke De-Rabbi Eliezer, where he is the chief of the fallen angels. According to the text, Samael opposed the creation of Adam and descended to Earth to tempt him into evil. Riding the serpent, he convinces Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. His role here might be similar to the Islamic idea of Iblis, who refused to prostrate himself before Adam because he consists of fire and Adam merely from dust. The midrash also reveals Samael fathered Cain with Eve.

In the Midrash Konen, he is the ruler of the third hell. Several sources, such as Yalkut Shimoni (I, 110) describe him as the guardian angel of Esau relating him to Rome, the one who wrestled with Jacob, the angel who ordered Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, and a patron of Edom.”

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7aede2  No.14628923

>>14628896

(Please read from the start)

>> See how Baal is correctly translated here. It’s not the name of Satan. It’s indication that he was a noble, a person with a high rank, as a lord or as a king. Which he was, the Evil One was a Sebetti ruler, a king of his clan. Baal is not his name, it’s his rank, pointing to his nobility. Same goes for the other Sebetti kings. They were all called Baal. As for the 2 Sebetti queens, they were called Baalat = feminine form of Baal. And the King of kings was called Baal of baalim. Baalim is the plural form of the word Baal. Has any of your names got a plural form anons? See what I mean?

All the above is (((their))) writings and (((their))) views. Just look at all the roles he played. Samael was in contact with both Moses and Abraham. And he was the ONE whom told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, supposedly, as a message from our Heavenly Father. Our Heavenly Father would NEVER make such a demand, even as a test. Such thoughts do not cross His mind. The most precious thing for Him is His children = us, humans.

Once you understand He loves us, you will understand that He doesn’t think this way. He also doesn’t need proof of our faith in Him because He is in us. He can read our thoughts and our hearts, He can sense our presence. He feels ours joy and our pain. He can see our smiles and our tears. He doesn’t need proof because He exists within our own bodies. His DNA is within us; and this is the “Secret of Life” or as some call it the “Secret of Creation”. This is our LINK to our Heavenly Father. We are connected to Him via our Spirit.

I’ve read some time ago that the clones created by the Kabbalah don’t live long and end up withering after a short life. Why do you think is that? It’s because they have no Soul and mostly these clones have no Spirit. Our Souls are put inside of us by our Heavenly Father and He is eternally connected to us via our Spirits. Our Spirits come from Him. And everything is embedded in our DNA = our genetic code. He is already in us, literally. We are connected to Him in a wireless way if you want to be a funny about it.

He does not need proof of anything about you because He can see you, can read you like an open book and he can feel everything you feel. Every thought or feeling you ever had, is directly transmitted to Him. The higher your Spiritual power is, the closer you are to Him.

The Bloodlines have been doing (((their))) outmost best to “turn you off”; as in turn off your spiritual power and cut your connection to our Heavenly Father. Archangel Michael is NOT the protector of Israel. This is sugar coating to make the Sheep like (((them))) and be enslaved towards Israel; this is part of the brainwashing. Archangel Michael protects the direct legitimate descendants of the King of kings; as in the descendants of the Crown Prince.

Do you remember when we were taking a look at the Evil Lady, we read that she came down to the Underworld to taste the forbidden fruit? (something like that). Here Samael, came down to Earth to convince Eve (pure, naïve Sebetti queen) to eat the forbidden fruit; which sounds more and more as Human Flesh. He is once more said to have fathered Cain with Eve/Lilith/Evil Lady…all of them are different aspects/forms of the Evil Lady.

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515143  No.14635689

>>14628923

(Please read from the start)

“Kabbalah

In Kabbalah (A. E. Waite, 255), Samael is described as the "severity of God," and is listed as fifth of the archangels of the world of Briah.

Although both Samael and Lilith are major demons in earlier Jewish traditions, they do not appear paired until the second half of the thirteenth century, when they are introduced together. Lilith is a demon created alongside Adam, originally created for the role Eve would fill, who then becomes Samael's bride. With her, Samael created a host of demon children, including a son, the "Sword of Samael" (or of Asmodai).”

>> I’ve explained this before: Adam is the Evil One before he turned evil; while Eve is the pure, naïve form of Lilith before she was seduced and transformed into the Evil Lady. The date is rather very late, and this might be because it was during that time (((they))) discovered the identity of the Evil Couple. The late discovery is a possibility.

“In the Kabbalistic work Treatise on the Left Emanation, Samael is part of the Qliphoth, prince of all demons, and spouse of Lilith. The two are said to parallel Adam and Eve, being emanated together from the Throne of Glory as a counterpart. Asmodeus is also mentioned to be subservient to Samael and married to a younger, lesser Lilith. According to the treatise, God castrated Samael in order not to fill the world with their demonic offspring, this being the reason why Lilith seeks to fornicate with men.”

>> They said it nicely here as in Samael and Lilith are parallel to Adam and Eve. They are the transformed into evil version of Adam and Eve. The reason Adam and Eve are considered to be the first man and woman is true. Because Adam and Eve are the first couple of (((their))) bloodline, (((their))) clan = the founding couple of the evil clan, this is why the Jews consider them as the first man and woman, because they truly are that. Their descendants and their clans are known as the Bloodlines and the Jews. The Jews are their clan.

I like the idea of Asmodeus being their son….it’s possible. As for a “lesser Lilith”, here, they are talking about a lesser demon. Could this be actually the daughter of the Evil Couple? Could they have 2 children, one male and one female? We already encountered this idea before.

As for Samael’s “castration”, we’ve been encountering this idea a lot in this thread. I’ve said it before: I don’t think it’s a physical castration = cutting him off for real. But this is a symbolic way of saying he cannot have children or has a big difficulty in having children. He cannot easily reproduce due to his illness. The Sebetti rulers and their warriors seem to live for a very long time, in other words, despite facing difficulty to have children, the Evil One had the time to keep on trying and trying.

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515143  No.14635700

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>>14635689

(Please read from the start)

“In the Zohar, one of Kabbalah's main works, Samael is described as a leader of the divine forces of destruction, being part of the Qliphoth. He is mentioned again as the serpent's rider, and is described as having mated with Eisheth Zenunim, Na'amah, and Agrat bat Mahlat, all being "angels" of sacred prostitution. Notably, the same work later calls him Azazel, which might be a case of mistaken identity, as Azazel may be himself in Zoharistic lore a combination of the angels Aza and Azrael.

It is also said that the Baal Shem once summoned Samael to make him do his bidding.”

>> We’ve seen the notion of the Evil One being polygamous before. I don’t remember where it was exactly, but I’m sure we’ve already read this idea while taking a look at the Evil Lady and how she was displeased with the Evil One messing around with other women. We’ve also seen Hollywood portraying most of the time Dracula with 3 wives, like it’s the case of the movie starting on page 1 213. Apart the Evil Lady, the Evil One seemed to have a little harem for himself which I think is the origin of the polygamy: where it originated.

Here, they mention the Evil One as being the Serpent rider once more. It’s getting more and more obvious that the Evil One is the Serpent Sebetti Clan ruler = their king. While the Evil Lady is the queen of the Antelope Sebetti Clan.

“Other tradition

Samael is also depicted as the angel of death and one of the seven archangels, the ruler over the Fifth Heaven and commander of two million angels such as the chief of other destroying angels.”

>> LoL! SEVEN Archangels ^_^ wanna guess whom they are?

“According to apocryphal Gedulat Moshe (The Apocalypse of Moses, "The Ascension of Moses" in The Legends of the Jews by Louis Ginzberg) Samael is also mentioned as being in 7th Heaven:

In the last heaven Moses saw two angels, each five hundred parasangs in height, forged out of chains of black fire and red fire, the angels Af, "Anger", and Hemah, "Wrath", whom God created at the beginning of the world, to execute His will. Moses was disquieted when he looked upon them, but Metatron embraced him, and said, "Moses, Moses, thou favorite of God, fear not, and be not terrified," and Moses became calm. There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."

>> This part is fun to read. Did anyone notice how Samael is “covered” with eyes? We’ve seen this before, haven’t we anons? It’s the armor of the Horned Serpent warriors.

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515143  No.14635704

>>14635700

(Please read from the start)

“Gnosticism

In the Apocryphon of John, On the Origin of the World, and Hypostasis of the Archons, found in the Nag Hammadi library, Samael is one of three names of the demiurge, whose other names are Yaldabaoth and Saklas.

After Yaldabaoth claims sole divinity for himself, the voice of Sophia comes forth calling him Samael, due to his ignorance. In On the Origin of the World, his name is explained as "blind god" and his fellow Archons are said to be blind, too. This reflecting the characteristics of the Christian devil, making people blind, as does the devil in 2 Corinthians 4. Also Samael is the first sinner in the Hypostasis of the Archons and the First Epistle of John calls the devil as sinner from the beginning. These characteristics combined with his boasting conflates the Jewish god with the devil. His appearance is that of a lion-faced serpent. Although the Gnostics and Jewish originally used the same source, both depictions of Samael developed independently.”

>> I’m not an expert in this, but from what I understand is that the Evil One wanted the throne which here they are telling its heraldic animal is the Lion (which is one of the possibilities I had put forward as being the heraldic animal symbol of the King of kings). Saying we have a serpent with a Lion head means that the Serpent Sebetti king = the Evil One wanted to be King of kings. He is also the original sinner because of his illness flipped him from a good person into an evil one and this way he started everything, becoming the first sinner ever. The “blind god” is most probably related to the blaster as I’ve explained many times before.

I don’t know about you anons, but I do love this sentence: “These characteristics combined with his boasting conflates the Jewish god with the devil” – not my words anons, not my words.

“Samael is sometimes confused in some books with Camael, who appears in the Gospel of Egyptians also as an evil power, whose name is similar to words meaning "like God" (but Camael with a waw missing). The name might be explained, because in Jewish traditions, the snake had the form of a camel, before it was banished by God.”

>> I put both hands up in the air and I surrender. I am honestly unable to understand how can a snake have the form of a camel, before it was banished by our Heavenly Father? Deciphering hieroglyphics is easier than figuring out this one. It could be a simple misspelling or more like an omission of letter while writing or copying the text. I do loads of typos and misspellings while writing. Sorry about that by the way.

“Anthroposophy

To anthroposophists, Samael is known as one of the seven archangels: Saint Gregory gives the seven archangels as Anael, Gabriel, Michael, Oriphiel, Raphael, Samael, and Zerachiel. They are all imagined to have a special assignment to act as a global zeitgeist ('time-spirit'), each for periods of about 360 years.”

>> The Evil One is one of the Sebetti kings. But I don’t know about the given list of names since we don’t know the names of any Sebetti ruler. Also I don’t know about this ruling period given of 360 years. I’ve not heard of a ruling cycle or assignment before. So this is a bit new and odd in the same time for me.

Everything we read so far about Samael fits perfectly with the information we’ve already got about the Evil One, doesn’t it? This is it for Samael. But I’m not finished with the Evil One yet.

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6f4069  No.14642438

>>14635704

(Please read from the start)

Asmodeus perked my curiosity and I’m going to look into him next to find out if he is the Evil One or his son = direct descendant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodeus

“Asmodeus (/ˌæzməˈdiːəs/; Ancient Greek: Ἀσμοδαῖος, Asmodaios) or Ashmedai (/ˈæʃmɪˌdaɪ/; Hebrew: אַשְמְדּאָי‎, ʾAšmədʾāy), also Asmodevs, Ashema Deva or Amias (see below for other variations), is a prince of demons, or in Judeo-Islamic lore the king of the earthly spirits (shedim/jinn), mostly known from the deuterocanonical Book of Tobit, in which he is the primary antagonist. In Peter Binsfeld's classification of demons, Asmodeus represents lust. The demon is also mentioned in some Talmudic legends; for instance, in the story of the construction of the Temple of Solomon.”

>> So Asmodeus is a Prince of demons whom is linked to the construction of the Temple of Solomon. Interesting!

“Etymology

The name Asmodai is believed to derive from Avestan language *aēšma-daēva, where aēšma means "wrath", and daēva signifies "demon". While the daēva Aēšma is thus Zoroastrianism's demon of wrath and is also well-attested as such, the compound aēšma-daēva is not attested in scripture. It is nonetheless likely that such a form did exist, and that the Book of Tobit's "Asmodaios" (Ἀσμοδαῖος) and the Talmud's "Ashmedai" (אשמדאי) reflect it. In the Zoroastrian and Middle Persian demonology, there did exist the conjuncted form khashm-dev, where the word dev was the same as daeva.

The spellings Asmodai, Asmodee (also Asmodée), Osmodeus, and Osmodai have also been used. The name is alternatively spelled in the bastardized forms (based on the basic consonants אשמדאי, ʾŠMDʾY) Hashmedai (חַשְמְדּאָי, Hašmədʾāy; also Hashmodai, Hasmodai, Khashmodai, Khasmodai), Hammadai (חַמַּדּאָי, Hammadʾāy; also Khammadai), Shamdon (שַׁמְדּוֹן, Šamdōn), and Shidonai (שִׁדֹנאָי, Šidonʾāy). Some traditions have subsequently identified Shamdon as the father of Asmodeus.

The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1906 rejects the otherwise accepted etymological relation between the Persian "Æshma-dæva" and Judaism's "Ashmodai" claiming that the particle "-dæva" could not have become "-dai" and that Æshma-dæva as such—a compound name—never appears in Persian sacred texts. Still, the encyclopedia proposes that the "Asmodeus" from the Apocrypha and the Testament of Solomon are not only related somewhat to Aeshma but have similar behaviour, appearance and roles, to conclude in another article under the entry "Aeshma", in the paragraph "Influence of Persian Beliefs on Judaism", that Persian Zoroastrian beliefs could have heavily influenced Judaism's theology on the long term, bearing in mind that in some texts there are crucial conceptual differences while in others there seems to be a great deal of similarity, proposing a pattern of influence over folk beliefs that would extend further to the mythology itself. However, the Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that although 'Æshma does not occur in the Avesta in conjunction with dæva, it is probable that a fuller form, such as Æshmo-dæus, has existed, since it is paralleled by the later Pahlavi-form "Khashm-dev"'. Furthermore it is stated that Asmodeus or Ashmedai "embodies an expression of the influence that the Persian religion or Persian popular beliefs have exercised" on Judaism.”

>> I have tears in my eyes after reading this one. So it turns out the Jews are unable to accept that the Persian Zoroastrian religion heavily influenced Judaism.

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6f4069  No.14642446

>>14642438

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It’s funny how the Jews = the Chosen people of God, supposedly, are unable to accept the FACT that their religion is influenced by a “pagan” religion. But then, we’ve already seen them practice the cult of Anat along with the one of YAHWEH near the border of Nubia, and the cult of the Evil Lady is heavily entrenched in Israel (as well as the rest of Syria). When taking a quick look at Ephesus with St. Paul we also know there was a big Jewish community in one of the biggest centers of the Cult of the Evil Lady. Amazing these coincidences are, mostly if we combine how Judaism was heavily influenced by the Mesopotamian epics, like the one of Gilgamesh. The Jews copied it while embellishing that tale, to make their image nice and pretty for the Sheep. We know that Noah was not the one whom built the Ark and we know more than him and his family survived. As well as we know that the Flood was a section, a part of the Cataclysm, not the Cataclysm itself. Seems like an explosion triggered everything and it resulted in active volcanoes, earthquake, land sinking etc. Noah’s tale was written that way in the Bible in order to make the Sheep believe that the Jews are the Chosen people of our Heavenly Father. They were chosen alright, but not by our Heavenly Father. They were chosen to be the people of the Evil One. That’s their god, the one they call Yahweh, that’s the god of Abraham and Moses.

“In the texts

In the Hebrew Bible

The full name "Ashmedai" is not found in the standard Masoretic canon of the Hebrew Bible, but in 2 Kings 17:30, a certain Ashima appears as the false god for whom the Syrian Hamathites made an idol. Not only does this name better resemble that of the Persian daeva Aeshma, but the name (אֲשִׁימָא) also greatly resembles the name Ashmedai (אַשְמְדּאָי) in Hebrew.”

>> So Asmodeus is the False god = the Lamp bearer = the Evil One; or as suggested earlier, maybe his son…maybe.

“In the Book of Tobit

The Asmodeus of the Book of Tobit is hostile to Sarah, Raguel's daughter, (Tobit 6:13); and slays seven successive husbands on their wedding nights, impeding the sexual consummation of the marriages. He is described as "the worst of demons". When the young Tobias is about to marry her, Asmodeus proposes the same fate for him, but Tobias is enabled, through the counsels of his attendant angel Raphael, to render him innocuous. By placing a fish's heart and liver on red-hot cinders, Tobias produces a smoky vapour that causes the demon to flee to Egypt, where Raphael binds him (Tobit 8:2–3). According to some translations, Asmodeus is strangled.

Perhaps Asmodeus punishes the suitors for their carnal desire, since Tobias prays to be free from such desire and is kept safe. Asmodeus is also described as an evil spirit in general: 'Ασμοδαίος τὸ πονηρὸν δαιμόνιον or τὸ δαιμόνιον πονηρόν, and πνεῦμα ἀκάθαρτον (Tobit 3:8; Tobit 3:17; Tobit 6:13; Tobit 8:3).”

>> This is my first time ever hearing of this story.

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6f4069  No.14642457

File: 2917d3b95491d9f⋯.jpg (63.59 KB, 389x512, 389:512, Asmodeus_more_imaginary_ar….jpg)

>>14642446

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“In the Talmud

The figure of Ashmedai in the Talmud is less malign in character than the Asmodeus of Tobit. In the former, he appears repeatedly in the light of a good-natured and humorous fellow. But besides that, there is one feature in which he parallels Asmodeus, in as much as his desires turn upon Bathsheba and later Solomon's wives.”

>> So here and in the previous account, Asmodeus is depicted as a sexual craving person/demon. I must admit, I was a bit surprised to discover that Judaism practiced Polygamy. I don’t know why I always thought they practiced monogamy. I guess it’s because polygamy projects a bad/negative image of whom practices it. It mostly betrays the low status of the women within that community are and how they are treated and respected. Everyone talks about how Islam treats women badly…maybe someone outta make a study case and compare the situation of women in both Islam and Judaism. I wonder what the results will be.

As I’ve said before, the practice of polygamy started with the Evil One and his cult. Remember Dracula and his 3 wives?

“Another Talmudic legend has King Solomon tricking Asmodai into collaborating in the construction of the Temple of Jerusalem (see: The Story of King Solomon and Ashmedai).”

>> Wait WHAT?!?! The Temple of Jerusalem is supposed to be the holiest of the holy; as in god’s house, according to the brainwashing. So how come the King of demons is “accepted to collaborate in its construction”. If that temple was so holy, how can it be accepted for a demon to help build it? Demons cannot be in the presence of something or someone holy, mostly Christ. They cannot touch something or someone holy, they cannot be in a holy place as well (if that place is truly holy). So dear reader, I’m inviting you think and think hard and deep what the idea of Asmodeus participating in the construction of that temple could mean.

Here is the link for that bed time story if anons would like to read a bit: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:The_Story_of_King_Solomon_and_Ashmedai

“Another legend depicts Asmodai throwing King Solomon over 400 leagues away from the capital by putting one wing on the ground and the other stretched skyward. He then changed places for some years with King Solomon. When King Solomon returned, Asmodai fled from his wrath. Similar legends can be found in Islamic folklore. There Asmodeus is called Sakhr (Arabic: ‎ the Rock or the Stony One), because in Islamic lore, Solomon banished him into a rock, after he takes his kingdom back from him. There he counts as the king of the jinn.

Another passage describes him as marrying Lilith, who became his queen.”

>> These are to say that the Evil One is the ruler of the Jews, their King and in the same time, he is the ruler of the Horned Serpent warriors = the demons. I guess this truly makes Lilith his queen, they are a couple after all.

“In the Testament of Solomon

In the Testament of Solomon, a 1st–3rd century text, the king invokes Asmodeus to aid in the construction of the Temple. The demon appears and predicts Solomon's kingdom will one day be divided (Testament of Solomon, verse 21–25). When Solomon interrogates Asmodeus further, the king learns that Asmodeus is thwarted by the angel Raphael, as well as by sheatfish found in the rivers of Assyria. He also admits to hating water and birds because both remind him of God.”

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6f4069  No.14642469

File: 787ff9a8555dc35⋯.jpg (25.88 KB, 360x450, 4:5, Asmodeus_imaginary_art.jpg)

>>14642457

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>> LoL! This one is a beauty. The last sentence can be explained in 2 ways; it all depends on whom God is here:

A – If we are talking about the King of kings, then the water reminds me of his fishmen healers and His Spiritual power. And yes, the King of kings was also served by the “birds” = the ThunderBirds whom are most probably the RIGHT HAND of GOD. It makes sense for Asmodeus to hate both the water and the birds because they both preceded the Evil One in rank = both were “above” him, superior to him.

B – If we are talking about the Evil Lady here, then the water is linked to her and the Antelope Clan (as we’ve seen it being mentioned when taking a look at her), but it also links to the fish connected to her, including her “supposed” mermaid shape. As for the bird, well, she is linked to the dove. But I don’t think Asmodeus is talking about her here: she was partner in crime of the Evil One, his lover and his “shortcut” to the throne.

The Evil One doesn’t hate her, he hated the King of kings and the ThunderBirds = warriors of the Crown Prince, which in turn means he hated the Crown Prince as well. This is why I am inclined with option A as an interpretation to this last sentence.

“In the Malleus Maleficarum

In the Malleus Maleficarum (1486), Asmodeus was considered the demon of lust. Sebastien Michaelis said that his adversary is St. John. Some demonologists of the 16th century assigned a month to a demon and considered November to be the month in which Asmodai's power was strongest. Other demonologists asserted that his zodiacal sign was Aquarius but only between the dates of January 30 and February 8.

>> I’m not surprised to read Asmodeus is connected to lust and sex because the Evil One was a pervert and a pedovore. He was the one whom started all of this nasty stuff because of his illness. As for the rest of the things said here, well, I don’t know, and I honestly don’t care whom consider what about him. As long as this freak is dead, I don’t care much about anything else concerning him. These are just interpretations from later dates anons and anyone can add their own spices to the mix, if you know what I mean.

“He has 72 legions of demons under his command. He is one of the Kings of Hell under Lucifer the emperor. He incites gambling, and is the overseer of all the gambling houses in the court of Hell. Some Catholic theologians compared him with Abaddon. Yet other authors considered Asmodeus a prince of revenge.”

>> Anyone surprised to hear he had 72 demons under his command? I’m not, because we already know the coup plotters were 72. Add I’m not surprised to find out he, along with the Evil Lady, are promoters of all the vices and perversions in the world. Everything started with him alone at first, but then she joined in and together they built their little twisted cult.

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4e645e  No.14650110

File: ad16d8f9af82ae0⋯.jpg (237.72 KB, 800x909, 800:909, Asmodeus_as_depicted_in_Co….jpg)

>>14642469

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“In the Dictionnaire Infernal

In the Dictionnaire Infernal by Collin de Plancy, Asmodeus is depicted with the breast of a man, a cock leg, serpent tail, three heads (one of a man spitting fire, one of a sheep, and one of a bull), riding a lion with dragon wings and neck, all of these creatures being associated with either lascivity, lust or revenge. The Archbishop of Paris approved his portrait.”

>> Well, all of these elements combined, including the cock leg = bird leg, points that he had a multi-morph armor.

“In the Lesser Key of Solomon

Asmodai appears as the king 'Asmoday' in the Ars Goetia, where he is said to have a seal in gold and is listed as number thirty-two according to respective rank.

He "is strong, powerful and appears with three heads; the first is like a bull, the second like a man, and the third like a ram; the tail of a serpent, and from his mouth issue flames of fire." Also, he sits upon an infernal dragon, holds a lance with a banner and, amongst the Legions of Amaymon, Asmoday governs seventy-two legions of inferior spirits.”

>> Multi-morph armor and 72 co-conspirators.

“In The Magus

Asmodeus is referred to in Book Two, Chapter Eight of The Magus (1801) by Francis Barrett

Later depictions

In Christian thought

Asmodeus was named as an angel of the Order of Thrones by Gregory the Great.

Asmodeus was cited by the nuns of Loudun in the Loudun possessions of 1634.

Asmodeus' reputation as the personification of lust continued into later writings, as he was known as the "Prince of Lechery" in the 16th-century romance Friar Rush. The French Benedictine Augustin Calmet equated his name with a fine dress. The 16th-century Dutch demonologist Johann Weyer described him as the banker at the baccarat table in hell, and overseer of earthly gambling houses.”

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4e645e  No.14650121

File: 723b23d3916b07a⋯.jpg (482.69 KB, 558x923, 558:923, asmodis_rennes_chateau.jpg)

>>14650110

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“In 1641, the Spanish playwright and novelist Luis Velez de Guevara published the satirical novel El diablo cojuelo, where Asmodeus is represented as a mischievous demon endowed with a playful and satirical genius. The plot presents a rascal student that hides in an astrologer's mansard. He frees a devil from a bottle. As an acknowledgement the devil shows him the apartments of Madrid and the tricks, miseries and mischiefs of their inhabitants. The French novelist Alain-René Lesage adapted the Spanish source in his 1707 novel le Diable boiteux, where he likened him to Cupid. In the book, he is rescued from an enchanted glass bottle by a Spanish student Don Cleophas Leandro Zambullo. Grateful, he joins with the young man on a series of adventures before being recaptured. Asmodeus is portrayed in a sympathetic light as good-natured, and a canny satirist and critic of human society. In another episode Asmodeus takes Don Cleophas for a night flight, and removes the roofs from the houses of a village to show him the secrets of what passes in private lives. Following Lesage's work, he was depicted in a number of novels and periodicals, mainly in France but also London and New York.”

>> If I dig in the background of these authors, what will I find? Only a member of the cult would depict a “demon” in a “sympathetic light as good-natured”.

“Asmodeus was widely depicted as having a handsome visage, good manners and an engaging nature; however, he was portrayed as walking with a limp and one leg was either clawed or that of a rooster. He walks aided by two walking sticks in Lesage's work, and this gave rise to the English title The Devil on Two Sticks (also later translated The Limping Devil and The Lame Devil). Lesage attributes his lameness to falling from the sky after fighting with another devil.”

>> This is a new interesting details = was the Evil One limping? Or was it his son? We already know the Evil One was handsome, charming and a smooth talker, but if this turns out to be true, then we have a new physical feature of him or his son. This also reminds me of Hephaestus, whom used to limp after Zeus tossed him down Mt Olympus because of a dispute with Hera. Hephaestus was the “lawful”, legal husband of Aphrodite, but she was the lover of Ares. It’s starting to get interesting, isn’t it anons?

“On 18 February 1865, author Evert A. Duyckinck sent President Abraham Lincoln a letter, apparently mailed from Quincy. Duyckinck signed the letter "Asmodeus", with his initials below his pseudonym. His letter enclosed a newspaper clipping about an inappropriate joke allegedly told by Lincoln at the Hampton Roads Peace Conference. The purpose of Duyckinck's letter was to advise Lincoln of "an important omission" about the history of the conference. He advised that the newspaper clipping be added to the "Archives of the Nation".

>> I’ve never heard of this episode with Lincoln and I don’t understand what Asmodeus has anything to do with anything. Maybe someone well versed in American History can help us shed some light onto this subject, if anyone is interested in this dig.

“In the Kabbalah

According to the Kabbalah and the school of Shlomo ibn Aderet, Asmodeus is a cambion born as the result of a union between Agrat bat Mahlat, a succubus, and King David.”

>> I see. So this is why some say Asmodeus can be considered as the son of the Evil One, and not the Evil One himself.”

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4e645e  No.14650128

>>14650121

(Please read from the start)

“In Islamic culture

The story of Asmodeus and Solomon has a reappearance in Islamic lore. Asmodeus is commonly named Sakhr (rock) probably a reference to his fate in common Islam-related belief, there, after Solomon defeated him, Asmodeus was imprisoned inside a box of rock, chained with iron, and thrown it into the sea. In his work Annals of al-Tabari, the famous Persian Quran exegete (224–310 AH; 839–923 AD) Tabari, referred to Asmodeus in Surah 38:34. Accordingly, the puppet is actually Asmodeus who took on the shape of Solomon for forty days, before Solomon defeated him.

Sakhr (Asmodeus) is consulted by Buluqiya, a young Jewish prince, who tried to find the final prophet, Muhammad, in The Nights. During their conversation, he asked about hell, thereupon Asmodeus describes the different layers (ṭabaqāt) of hell.”

>> Well anons, here you go, another influence of Judaism in Islam. We’ve seen it a few times already, like the Hamsa etc. Here, this is another example. A lot of people say bad things about Islam, but they all forget where they got it from in Islam = Judaism.

“In popular media

Asmodeus is a recurring antagonist in the 13th season of The CW series Supernatural, portrayed primarily by Jeffrey Vincent Parise. Created by Lucifer himself, Asmodeus was originally a Prince of Hell alongside siblings Azazel, Dagon, and Ramiel. Upon the death of Crowley, Asmodeus succeeds him as the King of Hell despite being Lucifer's weakest creation. Asmodeus is killed in the episode "Bring 'em Back Alive" by the archangel Gabriel, whose grace Asmodeus had been feeding on to make himself stronger.

[…]

In 1969 composer Josef Tal wrote an opera, Ashmedai, which is based on the Talmud. It premiered at the Hamburg State Opera in 1971, and was first performed in the United States in 1976 at the New York City Opera in a production directed by Hal Prince.

[…]

Asmodeus also features heavily in the lore of the game Dungeons & Dragons as the ruler of the Nine Hells. Different editions of the game offer different backstories, ranging from primordial evil to fallen angel to ancient god, but his role as the King of the Nine Hells is always the same.

[…]

Asmodeus appears as Magnus Bane's father and Prince of Hell, otherwise known as Edom on the third season of Freeform's Shadowhunters television series based on Cassandra Clare's popular book series The Mortal Instruments. He is portrayed by Jack J. Yang.

[…]”

>> Chuckles. Asmodeus pops up in the books of Mortal Instruments. What a nice coincidence we’ve got here!

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4e645e  No.14650155

>>14650128

(Please read from the start)

Asmodeus does have common points with the Evil One but it’s not a total match here. It’s different from what we read with Samael. There, the Evil One plays a central domineering role and he causes a lot of harm. As for Asmodeus, well, he is evil but you can see he is not the main protagonist and is not the one whom steers the action flow of the stories. He’s more like someone whom has a second role to play and is more being submitted to the events of the story than the one making them. Which is making me think the chances are high Asmodeus is the son of the Evil One and not the Evil One himself as it was suggested earlier.

This is leading me to reassess the comment I wrote on page 1 204 about the 2 Lilith (major and lesser Lilith) along with Samael and Asmodeus. Back then, I thought Adam, Samael and Asmodeus are all one and the same. After reading about Asmodeus, it seems I was off track some, and Adam and Samael are the Evil One, while Asmodeus seem to be his male child. The Major Lilith is the Evil Lady, while the Lesser Lilith seem to be their daughter. And from what was written back then, it looks like Asmodeus (brother) married the Lesser Lilith (sister maybe).

Here is the crazy part: I’m not certain about it, but it seems that the Evil One = Samael and the Evil Lady = Lilith were not just brother and sister but also TWINS – this is also hinted by the iconography we saw with Neith nursing 2 Nile crocodiles on page 1 207.

To be the king of demons, Asmodeus MUST be the son and heir of the Evil Couple. He mated with a lesser Lilith…so does this mean he married his own sister? We know from the Bronze Plaque of the Hells that Lamashtu was nursing 2 different animals, not ONE. Is this it? Were these 2 animals Asmodeus and the Lesser Lilith? = both brother and sister, from parents whom were also brother and sister: twins? This is getting me sick right now anons. This is so twisted. But it does explain how the incest came to be into all the royal families worldwide whom were part of the Cult = it was practiced by the Evil Couple.

If the Evil One and the Evil Lady were twins, does this mean she also had the same illness as him? If they were twins, this also means they were of the same age. Then, why did the illness showed up in him first and not her? And if the illness was something they both had (supposing), then both transmitted it to their children, and after his death, the Evil Lady kept on transmitting it to the other children she might have with other men.

I don’t want to get into the children of the Evil Couple or try to trace their tracks. It’s not worth it since we know the end result being the current day Bloodlines. I’m going to stop here with the offspring of the Evil Couple and Asmodeus.

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4e645e  No.14650175

File: 85cf32601553276⋯.jpg (69.17 KB, 307x420, 307:420, _Utu_Shamash_the_Sun_God_s….jpg)

>>14650155

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Next, I want to take a look at UTU, the brother of Inanna. I’m terribly intrigued by him and he is a difficult puzzle. I sometimes see him in a good light and sometimes I see him as the Evil One. He’s been a great enigma for me and I hope you are going to understand why because this is difficult and confusing. I’m going to work in reverse with him as in start from the bottom of the Wikipedia page and work my way up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utu

“Later influence

The authors of the Hebrew Bible generally attempt to portray the sun in a non-anthropomorphic manner, sometimes using it as a symbol of Yahweh's power. The Hebrew word for "sun", šapaš or šemeš, is often substituted for euphemisms, such as the word or, meaning "light". These authors appear to have made a conscious effort to avoid implications of sun worship, even of a Yahwistic variety, at all costs. Specifically, God creates the "greater light," the "lesser light," and the stars.

According to Victor Hamilton, most scholars agree that the choice of "greater light" and "lesser light", rather than the more explicit "Sun" and "Moon", is anti-mythological rhetoric intended to contradict widespread contemporary beliefs that the Sun and the Moon were deities themselves. However, the Woman of the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelation, may directly allude to ancient Near Eastern sun goddesses.”

>> A lot of researchers interpret the sun as greater and lesser; as in we have 2 TYPES of Sun. I don’t think this is pointing to the astral object itself. As said here, I think this is pointing to the Light = Spiritual power. It’s obvious that the Greater Light is the King of kings, He’s the real Sun, He’s the real Light of this world. The lesser light is the Evil One. We have 2 suns, as in we have 2 lights: a real one and a fake one.

The Evil Lady was associated to the moon and water for a reason that still escapes me; she is the Woman of the Apocalypse. If the Evil One is her “partner” and her “male opposite”; logically he should be associated with the sun and fire. We already know he is associated with fire, we’ve seen that many times before. But I think his association with the sun here means he is associated with the light, the lesser light. Is it his spiritual light or the light from his blasters? I’m unsure. We saw on the bronze Plaque of the Hells how the Serpent Sebetti’s weapon was depicted by a lamp and 7 dots on top of it.

Here, on their own, in this Wikipedia page, they are associating themselves the sun with Yahweh as a symbol of his power. So is it the lesser or the greater sun? The lesser or the greater light? But in the same time, the Jews did their best not to say it in the open; as in not associate the Sun openly and directly with Yahweh to avoid being suspected of paganism at all costs. We also saw the worship of Yahweh along the one of the Evil Lady at the Nubian border.

Because of all this, I think we have 2 Suns and the lesser sun has been confused with the greater sun and the younger generation thought they were one and the same. And I believe this is the cause why we see Shamash/Utu as a good god, benevolent, and sometimes he acts “weird”. I don’t think they understood that the Evil One is the lesser light, the lesser sun. While the King of kings is the Greater Light, the Greater Sun, the true Sun.

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4e645e  No.14650201

File: b0ab223b4d8be44⋯.jpg (61.22 KB, 325x625, 13:25, Shamash_Utu_stele_Old_Baby….jpg)

>>14650175

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As I was lurking in this place and online, there has been loads of talk from anons and researcher about Saturn (planet) being the “second sun”, or the “black sun” or the “fake sun”. There are a lot of theories out there. I know there is some type of huge misinterpretation and confusing by later generations, as the Akkadians, Assyrian etc. when it comes to the Sun. I think they all missed the existence of 2 suns (not the astral sun), but 2 lighst = Spiritual power. Everyone thought it was the Sun as in the astral ball of light, but the truth this is referring to the Spiritual power within the Sebetti kings = the Holy Light.

I’m having a hard time understanding the planetary link, like Saturn, or should I say the role and influence of such planets in all that is taking place. I understand the confusion from long ago and how they mixed the greater and lesser sun; as in they mixed the King of kings and the Evil One, out of pure misunderstanding/ignorance of what this is all about = the Light = the Holy Spirit. But what I don’t understand is this connection anons and researchers have been doing to Saturn (planet). It’s confusing me even more than I’m confused about the ancient sources.

I’m putting picture of Shamash/Utu, confusing which one of these it’s precisely (notice the era = date of the artifacts = most are of later periods where confusion took place). Anons, this doesn’t mean Shamash is evil or the Evil One; nor does it mean he is good. Here I think they blended the Evil One and the King of kings together, and thought it’s the same person; all because of the Light = Sun confusion and misunderstanding. I said before that it’s incredibly hard to figure out whom is what in the Mesopotamian pantheon, while it’s easier to determine things in Ancient Egypt.

I’m going to continue with Utu and I hope anons will see how confusing it is to determine his“nature”: good or bad.

“Mythology

The Sumerians believed that, as he rode through heaven, Utu saw everything that happened in the world. Alongside his sister Inanna, Utu was the enforcer of divine justice. At night, Utu was believed to travel through the Underworld as he journeyed to the east in preparation for the sunrise. One Sumerian literary work refers to Utu illuminating the Underworld and dispensing judgement there and Shamash Hymn 31 (BWL 126) states that Utu serves as a judge of the dead in the Underworld alongside the malku, kusu, and the Anunnaki. On his way through the Underworld, Utu was believed to pass through the garden of the sun-god, which contained trees that bore precious gems as fruit.”

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4e645e  No.14650226

>>14650201

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>> Let’s start with this tangled up, confusing section:

First sentence: “The Sumerians believed that, as he rode through heaven, Utu saw everything that happened in the world.” All the Sebetti rulers, including their warriors, had access to flying machinery, from planes to jet suits. This includes the good and the bad warriors because everyone came from the same civilization = Atlantean one. So everyone among them could ride through heaven.

All Sebetti rulers had a section = a kingdom to rule/supervise, so they “saw” everything that was taking place there = managed their own kingdom and their subjects/citizens.

The King of kings had huge Holy Spiritual power which was given to every living being by our Heavenly Father. This is what connects all humans to our Heavenly Father. Since the King of kings had a huge amount of it, this made us also connected to Him. In other words, the King of kings, saw, heard, thought, felt everything we do = entire human race….just like Christ does. Both Christ and the King of kings have the same “type” of power. I will be explaining how this is possible later.

2nd sentence: “Alongside his sister Inanna, Utu was the enforcer of divine justice.” The Evil One and the Evil Lady were brother and sisters as we’ve talked about this possibility many times already in this thread and saw it with Inanna. We also saw with Inanna what Divine Justice /Divine retribution is on page 1 228. As I said back then, this means the Evil Couple unleashed the Cataclysm = triggered it.

3rd sentence: “At night, Utu was believed to travel through the Underworld as he journeyed to the east in preparation for the sunrise.” What is the Underworld? This is hard to know, I’ve cited before many possibilities what the Underworld could mean. Here, the image of Utu riding his chariot during the day in the Upper world and during the night in the Underworld = the journey…it’s the same as Ra from Ancient Egypt and reminds me greatly of Helios from Greek mythology.

4th sentence: “One Sumerian literary work refers to Utu illuminating the Underworld and dispensing judgement there and Shamash Hymn 31 (BWL 126) states that Utu serves as a judge of the dead in the Underworld alongside the malku, kusu, and the Anunnaki.” All Sebettis rulers dispended justice on their subjects/citizens. We already know that the Native American ThunderBirds used to serve justice among the people. As for illuminating the Underworld, well, as I’ve already said, the King of kings had the greater Light in Him so He illuminated the entire world, literally. While the Evil One, I called him the lamp carrier because he is known as the lesser light. So this part works for both, depending on which Light = Sun we are talking about. See how the confusion occurs?

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4e645e  No.14650265

File: 3775acce64ff2d1⋯.jpg (40.67 KB, 600x338, 300:169, cerebro_Professor_Xavier.jpg)

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>>14650226

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5th sentence: “On his way through the Underworld, Utu was believed to pass through the garden of the sun-god, which contained trees that bore precious gems as fruit.” Again anons, what is the Underworld? From the rest of the sentence, the “garden of the sun-god”, is it the palace of the Evil One or the palace of the King of kings?

“Utu was believed to take an active role in human affairs, and was thought to aid those in distress. In one of his earliest appearances in literature, in the Myth of Etana, written before the conquest of Sargon of Akkad (c. 2334–2284 BC), the hero Etana invokes Utu to help his wife conceive a child. In the Sumerian poem The Dream of Dumuzid, Utu intervenes to rescue Inanna's husband Dumuzid from the galla demons who are hunting him. In the Sumerian flood myth, Utu emerges after the flood waters begin to subside, causing Ziusudra, the hero of the story, to throw open a window on his boat and fall down prostrate before him. Ziusudra sacrifices a sheep and an ox to Utu for delivering him to salvation.”

>> All Sebetti rulers had an active role in human affairs, it’s a normal thing for a ruler. Aiding those in distress is also part of the job of a ruler. But…imagine if someone is connected to you via the Holy Spirit and He can feel and see everything about you and He is there for you.

If anons want to understand how this is possible, then I want you to take a look at Professor Xavier from X-men using Cerebro. By using the machine Cerebro = the Brain (according to the comics), he can connect to every normal human on the planet (in white light), and feel him and hear his thoughts. In the same time, Professor Xavier can connect to the mutants (in red light) and feel him and hear his thoughts. He can see and hear everyone and know their location with his normal powers, he can also control them and enter their minds. But using Cerebro his powers are amplified and cover a big range and loads of people. So ask yourselves anons, where did (((they))) get this idea of Cerebro to insert it in Comics?

This is how the King of kings and our Heavenly Father are both connected to us = humans, but without the help of a machine. This is the Spirit that is in us and connects us to them. They can both feel us, see us, know what we do, hear our thoughts, know where we are. (((They))) knew of this and (((they))) twisted the idea a bit = making it a machine and (((they))) projected it into the mutant powers of Professor Xavier and into Cerebro.

It doesn’t stop there: the helmet worn by Magneto to “block” Professor Xavier’s powers is also real…kinda. I mean, not the helmet is real, but the block is real. The helmet is symbolic here. It represents the block the Bloodlines have put on us to separate us from our Heavenly Father so we won’t be in direct contact with Him. This block is in our food, blocking the Sunlight, in the media, entertainment word, almost everything we do in our lives, including in Religion. And (((they))) have put this block on us for many centuries now, it got only worse during modern times as (((their))) grip of control over us has gotten stronger.

But some people managed to break through that block and reconnect with our Heavenly Father. We know these people as the Saints. Real Saints like St. Paisios, not fake saint (some of them) put as fake idols by the Vatican.

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d7c8af  No.14658276

>>14650265

(Please read from the start)

Etana invokes Utu to help his wife conceive a child, according to a story which dates back from before Sargon of Akkad. This is important, but there are doubts of Sargon being a descendant of the Evil Lady = according to his “claims” – which means we outta be careful of how biased the texts were, maybe not all of them, but…it should be verified first. Be very very careful while working.

Anyways, whom do you invoke to help you have a child? = a good deity whom is caring and protects life, including children? Or a bad deity whom is hateful, enjoys killing and is a pedovore? In other words, which SUN did Etana invoke here? In order to have children, do you ask help from a child caring divinity or a child harming divinity? See why Shamash/Utu is confusing anons? Here, it’s clear Etana is invoking a benevolent, good, caring god, not a ruthless, evil one whom likes to kill and eat children.

Then we have Utu in another role = coming to the rescue of Inanna’s husband. I think here, it’s the Evil One. It’s him as Utu and as Dumuzid in one tale, but seen under their different aspects.

As for the “variant” of the Epic of Gilgamesh, I think here it represents the Sun as an astral body. Because we know there was an ice age and we know volcanoes erupted, should include Mega volcanoes. I think there were clouds covering the planet = keeping away the Sunlight, which caused the ice age to occur. This also includes storm clouds, but it was mostly clouds made of volcanic dust which most probably kept away the Sunlight from reaching the surface of the planet. So after a long time, the clouds started to “break apart”, letting the Sunlight hit the surface of the Earth = this was a sign of the end of the ice age and the Cataclysm. See why the survivors were grateful to see the Sun?

“In the Sumerian King List, one of the early kings of Uruk is described as "the son of Utu" and Utu seems to have served as a special protector to several of that city's later kings. In the Sumerian poem of Gilgamesh and Huwawa, the hero Gilgamesh asks Utu to assist him in his journey to the Cedar Mountain. In this version, Gilgamesh asks Utu's help because Utu is associated with the Cedar Mountain, which is implied to be located in the far east, the land where the sun rises. Utu is initially reluctant to help, but, after Gilgamesh explains that he is doing this because he intends to establish his name, because he knows he will eventually die, Utu agrees. Once Gilgamesh reaches the Cedar Mountain, Utu helps him defeat the ogre Huwawa, who lives there.”

>> There is no way to guess whom we are talking about in the first sentence of this paragraph: is it the Greater Light or the lesser light; as in the King of kings or the Evil One. We know the Evil Lady settled first somewhere in the Taurus mountain range while the Flood water level was still high. It took some time for the water to recede. Her settlement was NOT the only one in that area; as there were other survivors and the demographic numbers kept on growing. So it’s very logical to have various groups of people and various settlements in that region. When the water cleared more land downstream Euphrates, there were many and different waves of migration towards these new lands. Loads of people moved there for warmer climate, availability of water and fertile land. Some groups of migrants resettled in different location on the banks of the Euphrates and finally picked one last spot to settle in definitely. It’s almost impossible to track which group settled where and how long they stayed in that precise location and for how long, mostly with no written records of any kind. We only have the Tells to guide us.

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d7c8af  No.14658294

File: 3c89d204e4f47ab⋯.jpg (243.32 KB, 609x1053, 203:351, Shamash_Utu_seal_with_alie….jpg)

>>14658276

(Please read from the start)

In other words anons, there is no way to find out where exactly the Evil Lady or her group resettled in Mesopotamia and how many City-States were under their command. We know she liked to conquer, which means at some point, she tried to conquer some if not all of the City-States of Mesopotamia. This ideology of unifying the ruling power under the rule of ONE man, ONE king, is mostly shown at the end of the Akkadian era and the start of the Assyrian Era. It’s where the ideology of kingdom overtakes the City-State system of ruling; we can see it clearly then.

This was also happening in Ancient Egypt with the disappearance of the City-State system there and it was replaced by the Kingdoms of the Upper and Lower Egypt. The old administrative and ruling system died with the death of the old generation and it was replaced by a new system where the central power and land dominance was concentrated in the hands of one person showing a greed for power, authority and conquest for more territory.

In other words anons, we have no idea in finding out which were the City-States where the good guys lived or where the bad guys lived; this includes both Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. And we have no way of knowing which Sun the Sumerian City-States worshiped, which god = Sebetti ruler. Which City-State worshiped the Evil One as the lesser sun: I don’t know. Which City-State worshiped the King of kings as the Greater Sun: I don’t know.

As for Gilgamesh asking the assistance of Utu to defeat Humbaba: We already know Humbaba was a multi-morph in the Evil Clan army, but which Sun are we talking about when Utu is mentioned: the lesser sun or the Greater Sun. Both are possibilities. It can be a battle presented to us but a battle between whom:

A – The warriors of the Light defeating Humbaba; which in turn means Utu/Shamash here is the Greater Sun = the King of the kings.

B – The warriors of darkness defeating Humbaba, as talked about and given the example in page 952 = one Horned Serpent warrior turning on another Horned Serpent warrior; which in turn means Utu/Shamash is the lesser sun = the Evil One.

The chances are 50/50 on this one. See how confusing all of this is?

And here comes a BIG mystery: to my knowledge, there are NO CEDARS in the Land of the EAST where the Sun rises. This could be explained in 2 ways:

1 – The writer/scribe of this story made a mistake, either while writing or while copying this tale from an older document. This is possible.

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d7c8af  No.14658318

>>14658294

(Please read from the start)

2 – This has a symbolic meaning: As in the person with the Light (just like the Sun rises in the East) in Him exists where the Cedars mountains are. Where can we locate the Cedar mountains? =

A - It can be Iran, since it has mountains, Cedars are trees which need cold weather and snow. So it works there, mostly it’s located in the East according to Mesopotamia.

B -It can be the Taurus mountain range, even all the way up to Armenia. The cold weather there was the host of many types of fir trees and conifer trees. But it’s located in the North of Mesopotamia.

C – It can be the Lebanese Mountain chains, both of them. We know Lebanon is famous for their Cedar in Ancient Times. So famous that they are known as the Land of the Cedars, from the dawn of History till now – just like Armenia is known as the Land of the Horses. But Phoenicia/Lebanon is located to the West of Mesopotamia.

Well, logic says it should be option A, as in it’s possibly Iran, right? Well, that is what I used to think….until I went to Lebanon and I noticed something peculiar there with the Sun Rise = it always comes from the mountain side of the country. Over there, the physical geography of the country is like a sandwich with many layers to it:

It starts with a narrow coast parallel to the sea. Then a first mountain range parallel to the coast. Then a bumpy valley parallel to the first mountain range. And it ends with a second mountain range parallel to the bumpy valley. So in other words: if you are standing on the coast and you look at the sunrise, you will see it coming from behind the mountain. If you are standing on the summit of the first mountain range and you are looking at the sunrise, you will see it, at a distance, coming behind the second mountain range. If you are in the bumpy Beqaa valley and you are looking at the sunrise, you will see also coming behind the second mountain range. In other words, when you are in Lebanon, the Sun always comes from behind a mountain. You will never see it coming up from behind a valley or from behind the sea; there is always a mountain range to block the view, for the sun to rise behind it no matter where you are standing in Lebanon. So strangely enough, because of this phenomena over there, you can say that Lebanon is a Cedar mountain where the Sun always rises from the furthest eastern mountain range = Anti-Lebanon mountain range. Strange, but it’s true.

Iran is not known as the Land of the Cedar, in any record ever. That is solely for Lebanon/Phoenicia. Of course some people reading this won’t be convinced by what I just explained. We can consider this as a weak link to Phoenicia, an uncertain one.

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57cf81  No.14659666

>>14658318

(Please read from the start)

“In the standard Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh's plan to visit the Cedar Mountain is still his own idea and he goes to Shamash for aid. In this version, however, the Cedar Mountain is explicitly stated to be located in the northwest, in Lebanon. Shamash helps Gilgamesh defeat Humbaba (the East Semitic name for Huwawa). Jeffrey H. Tigay suggests that Lugalbanda's association with the sun-god in the Old Babylonian version of the epic strengthened "the impression that at one point in the history of the tradition the sun-god was also invoked as an ancestor". In the Sumerian version, Gilgamesh's initial quest is to visit the Cedar Mountain and Humbaba is merely an obstacle that Gilgamesh and Enkidu encounter once they have already arrived there, but, in the Babylonian version, defeating Humbaba is the initial quest on which the heroes embark. In a late version of the Gilgamesh story, Shamash becomes the instigator of the quest, the one who instructs Gilgamesh to go slay Humbaba to begin with. Tigay describes this as the "final and logical development of [Shamash's] role”.

>> See how the text and it’s “implications” changed from one era to another anons? From the Sumeria, to the Old Babylonian to later sources, the role of the SUN GOD changed in the story. And in the Babylonian version (late) it is clearly stated that Lebanon is the place of the Cedar mountains. So how did the Babylonians reached that conclusion? How did they get to locate the Cedar mountains to be in Lebanon? Well, I guess it’s the most famous location for Cedar trees in the entire Middle East. The other countries may have had some Cedar trees but they were not known for them, nor did they use them in trade or for industrial use or construction. In this paragraph the mutation and change is well explained.

“Iconography

In Sumerian texts, Utu is described as "bearded" and "long-armed". In art, he is shown as an old man with a long beard. He was believed to emerge from the doors of Heaven every day at dawn and ride across the sky in his chariot before returning to the "interior of heaven" through a set of doors in the far west every evening. Utu's charioteer was named Bunene. Cylinder seals often show two gods holding the doors open for him as he wields his weapon, the pruning-saw, a double-edged arch-shaped saw with large, jagged teeth, representing his role as the god of justice. Utu's main symbol was the solar disc, a circle with four points in each of the cardinal directions and four wavy, diagonal lines emanating from the circle between each point. This symbol represented the light, warmth, and power of the sun.”

>> Whom are we talking about in this paragraph anons: the Greater Sun or the lesser sun? The Sun which emerges from the gates of Heaven is none other than the King of kings. Heaven is where the King of kings used to live. But the Beam of light that used to come down = teleportation most probably, was used by all Sebetti rulers and their warriors included.

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57cf81  No.14659688

File: 476758f6da6edfd⋯.jpg (78.97 KB, 298x670, 149:335, Babylonian_stele_of_Utu_20….jpg)

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>>14659666

(Please read from the start)

As for Utu’s main Symbol = the solar disk….I thought this should be associated with Inanna!!! See what I mean here anons? This symbol is not exclusively the one of the Evil Lady. This was used with the iconography of many gods = Sebetti rulers and their warriors whom were also considered as gods by humans. It doesn’t matter if they call this symbol an 8 pointed star, a spark, symbol of the Sun etc. It represents the same Beam that comes down from “Above” with swirling electricity around it, as I’ve explained before in this thread.

The weapon described here is a bit odd, but I doubt that’s something close to a real saw. Those spikes or the jagged teeth of the weapon could very well be sparks of lightning or flames of fire.

I’ve already posted some pictures of artifacts representing Utu in previous pages. He is bearded in all of them, but was he a young man or an old man? In the paragraph they say he is represented as old. Look carefully, this is not always the case: sometimes you can see he is a young man with a beard. I think we have 2 representations, a young Utu and an old Utu. I think this is due to the confusion I talked about earlier of how younger generation confused the Greater Sun with the lesser sun and thought they were one sun = one person. I think the iconography of the OLD Utu = as an old man (like me ^_^ ) is that of the King of kings; while the iconography of a YOUNG Utu = as in a young man is that of the Evil One. We have the same situation with Ra, while he is depicted as a young man when the Sun rises and as an old man when the Sun is about to set. I think the young Utu with “long arms” is the Evil One.

In some of the artifacts I’ve already posted, we can clearly see Utu holding some type of short blade = like a dagger for a weapon. I’m posting with this page the picture of an artifact = a relief where we can clearly see Utu holding a staff with flames coming up from its top end. It looks a lot like a torch doesn’t it? But is it really one? It’s possible, but not certain, this could be a Staff weapon which emits fire, like the one we know Seth yielded. I’m saying it again, it’s possible, but not certain this is the case with this specific artifact.

The second picture is of another relief, a terribly interesting one as we can see the scene taking place of 2 Felines facing one another = indicating the place of origin = where they come from, just like how we saw Inanna standing on the back of Lion or her throne resting on the back of Lions. See anons, the Lion is not exclusively used for Inanna. It’s used by many (I will be showing you more of it) to indicate where they come from. And in this artifact, it’s showing all of them on top of the Lions, which means they all come from the same place.

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d7255b  No.14665057

File: a19fc7889a583c8⋯.jpg (694.42 KB, 1737x1326, 579:442, _Utu_Inanna_Nannar_Copy.jpg)

>>14659688

(Please read from the start)

This specific relief brings me to this incredible sentence section: “Cylinder seals often show two gods holding the doors open for him”. I’ve reposted with this page, the same artifact for anons, but highlighted the details for easier recognition.

It’s obvious the person sitting is of higher rank than the others, most probably the King of kings. Here, everyone is wearing the triple horned crown. I’m unfortunately unable to find information about the date of this relief = which era it comes from; it might be from later generations (not certain though). If this is the case, then the later generation misunderstood the theft of the other horns Sebetti and their merger with the Antelope horns = to make the triple horns crown. This is supposed to be the stolen horns merged with the ones of the Antelope, but the later generation thought this is a royal crown and depicted ALL the gods (good and bad) with it.

Now the sitting bearded person, is holding his right hand up in a “saluting” gesture, while he is holding something in his left hand which is undetermined. We are seeing all the persons in the upper register from the side. Look at the SIZE of the sitting King = he is HUGE, much bigger than the rest if he was standing up.

In front of him, there is a person with no beard, but, we are unable to determine if this is a male or female. He’s got short hair though, making it most likely a male. Right above him, in orange circle, there is the horns of a clan with the rosette in the middle – remember what I wrote in pages 971-972 about Hathor’s horns; then in page 1 034, explaining the rosette on the crown of the Lamassu reproduction. This is a weapon of a Sebetti = the horns with electricity between them. They are telling us in this relief that the King received a visitor from one of the horned Clans. Which clan precisely: I don’t know.

Right behind the first person (with no beard), there is a bearded person following him. This second person has an identical symbol (it’s obvious despite the damage to the artifact) = of the horns with the rosette, depicted above his head indicating both are from the same horned Clan. But look closely at the clothes he is wearing = They are different in style from the first person. And despite it’s not clear, he is holding something in his hands.

Now compare his clothing to the clothing of the person standing behind the King. Not clear if identical because of the damage, but they are similar. Which is making me think these 2 persons (with white arrows pointing at them) are the Sukkals or assistants of the person depicted in front of them. Looks like the Sukkals had their own clothing design/style.

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d7255b  No.14665067

>>14665057

(Please read from the start)

The interesting part is below this scene: in the green square we have the 2 lions in the middle which as I’ve already explained are pointing to the kingdom where this scene is taking place, where everyone comes from. This is most likely Atlantis anons.

But the most interesting part is what is depicted on each aide of these 2 Felines. Look closely anons. We have 2 bearded guards wearing a triple horned crown. I just explained the possible late date of this relief and why everyone is wearing a triple horned crown. But look what they are holding (in yellow) = the Staff weapon, the Sharrur weapon. Incredible, isn’t it?

And it fits perfectly with that section of the sentence where it said that “2 gods hold the door”. Here, these 2 gods mean the 2 Sebetti warriors standing each ONE on each side of the Beam of Light or the teleportation Beam…some might call it the portal- or it could be the entrance to the throne room. Here, the text matches the artifact; never forget anons that it’s the text which should match the artifact and not the artifact that should match the text.

The presence of the 2 lions and the Sebetti warriors holding the Sharrur on each side of the scene is telling that this is the King of kings we have here in front of us, receiving a guest. And this scene most probably took place in Atlantis = before the Cataclysm.

And this is not the ONLY artifact where we can see the 2 warriors holding staffs like this, guarding each side of a scene.

In page 1 166, I’ve talked about the Royal Griffin. I said, wherever there is iconography of a Griffin, mostly in Ancient Times, there is a royal present because the Griffin represents the royal guards. And you cannot have royal guards with no royal around, right?

Starting page 1 170, I was talking about the King of kings and trying to figure out his symbolic animals. I said back then that there are 3 options of what the heraldic symbol of the King of kings might turn out to be. Point B was a Feline because the Griffin is composed of and Eagle and a Lion. And I have said before while talking about the Griffin (Burney relief – Inanna), that it might be composed of ONE warrior of the ThunderBirds and One Feline warrior; each one standing on ONE side of the throne room. Here, on this relief, we have a visual of such guards/warriors, standing on each side of the throne room.

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d7255b  No.14665084

>>14665067

(Please read from the start)

So anons, what do you think? Are these 2 guards: a Feline warrior and a ThunderBird warrior? It’s looking like that. And the more I dig, the more I’m seeing as the Feline warriors being the heraldic symbol of the King of kings and the ThunderBirds being the heraldic symbol of the Crown Prince = the heir. Both royals sit on the throne of Heaven because of the High Spiritual power they’ve got. Which explains why the Griffin is the sign of Royalty = they Guard the current King Heaven and the next in line = the future King of Heaven.

And this also explains why the King has as his Right Hand Man the leader of the ThunderBirds. The Feline warrior cannot be the Right Hand man of the King of kings because they represent Him. The second in power after the King is His heir = the Crown Prince. And if the ThunderBirds are the Right Hand man of the King, this puts them on a High position, second to Him. Explaining why we have ONE guard of each to guard the King and the future King.

Everything is pointing out that it started with the iconography of a Feline and a ThunderBird depicted separately like what we see on the Burney relief with Ishtar/Innana. There the Lions have a double role of representing the Feline warrior and representing the Kingdom of Atlantis. Then with mutation occurring, both heraldic animals FUSED = merged together to become the Griffin. After some time, another mutation occurred and the Griffin transformed into the Sphinx. This is why we see on later forms of Ishtar’s throne = the throne of Astarte, flanked with 2 female Sphinxes = a mutated form of the Griffin.

And yes anons, even the Evil One and the Evil Lady were once Sebetti royals which means the Griffin could also be depicted next to them as we’ve seen on the throne of the lady in Nergal’s relief – page 790. If we like it or not, at some point long ago in time, these 2 were also royals in Atlantis; minor or lesser royals, but royals nonetheless. So this is how and why, sometimes we see the Evil Lady represented with Griffins. And the irony in all of this, or if you would like to call it as the funny part is that the “expert” brought and BOUGHT by the Bloodlines to “analyze and figure out” the Burney relief of Ishtar totally misunderstood the real meaning of the Lions and the Owls depicted on it. So from there on, the Bloodlines thought these 2 are the symbol of their founding queen = their mother of demons; not knowing that these symbols actually represent the ones she hated most, her enemies = her Father and her younger brother the Crown Prince. The Bloodlines have been using the symbol of their enemies thinking it’s the symbol of (((their))) ancestor, not knowing it’s the symbol of (((their))) enemy. I’m laughing at (((their))) stupidity.

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d7255b  No.14665094

File: d39983d07f55621⋯.jpg (44.22 KB, 413x512, 413:512, 6i_Enlil_has_captured_Anzu….jpg)

File: 6ea8783015a4f4a⋯.jpg (48.93 KB, 518x680, 259:340, Ninurta_stabbing_a_prisone….jpg)

>>14665084

(Please read from the start)

Now I’ve got me an additional relief that has been terribly, terribly troubling me. I have found the same artifact with 2 very different interpretations given to it by the Main Stream History online. I don’t know if this is done on purpose or if it’s some type of error or ignorance by the ones posting the pictures.

In the first one, it’s said as anons can read that it’s Enlil executing the Anzu for a “coup attempt”. And in the second one, it’s said this is Ninurta stabbing a prisoner. Which is the correct answer? Well, anons, I ain’t gonna listen to what the Main Stream History is going to tell me about this artifact, I’m going to take a look at it myself.

We are seeing this scene from the side and not from the front (de côté, pas de face) and this is a damaged piece, fragmentary – as anons can see. We have 2 MEN = male protagonists in this scene. We can identify them as males because of the bare chests and the beard. Both are wearing different types of clothing. Different clothing designs.

Both are standing on a ground that is clearly marked. Generally when the ground is clearly marked as how we see over here, this indicates there is something under that marked line of the ground. It usually is a sub-register where animals are displayed = heraldic animals, mostly Lions, in a standard mode. Here, the artifact is damaged, but if I rely on the standard, stereotyped iconography, there are usually heraldic animal under that ground line. Is it Lions here? Maybe, it’s possible, but there is no way for us to find out because that section is badly damaged.

The man on your left hand is wearing a triple horned crown on his head and he’s got a bow, an archer’s bow hanging on this shoulder = he’s an archer. If we combine both, then he is one of the Evil Clan warriors, maybe, just maybe an Antelope warrior. But….there is an additional detail that indicates exactly whom he is: he’s got long arms. Compare the length of his arms to the length of the second man (the man on your right hand); it’s clear the arms of the left man are longer than the average length of arms. I strongly believe this is the Evil One anons.

This man on the left, with long arms, is stabbing in the abdomen the man on the right with a dagger. He is holding that dagger with his right hand, but we don’t see the tip of the dagger. He is not about to stab, he ALREADY stabbed the other man, because the tip of the dagger is inside the body of the other man. With his left hand, he is yanking down the hair (looking like rays) of the other man, as if to lower his head and in the same time to make sure he is not going to run away.

The man on the right had his hands tied behind his back, as if he was a prisoner. His chest is bare, as if he was stripped from the upper part of his tunic. What is peculiar about this “tied up” man is his head = it looks like a Sun with rays coming out of it. He’s got 12 rays. The bottom 2 are as if they are his beard. The corners of his closed mouth are clearly drawn downwards as if he is sad. His nose is clearly shown, but not that much his eyes: they are closed = they are depicted as horizontal lines, and yes, they are fading, not well marked. On his forehead there is an ovoid shape, making it look like an EYE.

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082c3b  No.14671042

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>>14665094

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I think anons have guessed whom this person is: it’s the King of kings. The Rays coming out of his head is his Holy Spiritual Power which radiates. Yes anons, all the Holy warriors, Christ as well, all of them, LIGHT comes out of their body, mostly from the head. It’s a white Light that floats around their body at a short distance from it and it comes out from the body. The stronger the Spiritual power is, the stronger the rays are. These people simple SHINE.

I think all the Sebetti used to have Light coming out of them – same thing for their warriors. But after turning evil, the Evil Couple and their followers (including their warriors) saw their Light transform into that dark matter.

As for the eye looking thing on the forehead of the King of kings. I don’t think it’s actually a real eye in the middle of His forehead. I believe this is a symbolic representation to indicate His ability to see everything, since He is linked to everyone via the Holy Spirit. I gave the example of professor Xavier from X-men and his mental ability, as well as how it was enhanced if he used Cerebro. I think this symbol on the forehead on the King of kings represent His Spiritual ability.

The last thing I want to bring attention to is the possible existence of more “actors” in this scene. There is something behind the back of the Evil One, it’s unclear what it is, but it might be another person standing there. But we certainly have another person standing right behind the King of kings as we can clearly see the ruffles of a tunic = green box. Unfortunately this relief is damaged and we only have a portion of it.

Here, it is my belief that we are seeing for the first time the murder of the King of kings by the Evil One depicted on an artifact. Now we know, the Evil One (recognizable because of his long arms) was wearing a multi-morph armor and he had his weapons with him. He managed to get close to the King of kings and tie Him up. He captured the King of kings first and tied Him up, then subdued Him = see how he is yanking the hair of the King down? = this is an indication the Evil One used force and was brutal, wanted to submit the King of kings to him. He most probably wanted to King to bow His head to him. It’s that type of behavior. But it also betrays the inferiority complex the Evil One had towards the King. He wanted the King to suffer, feel pain and to lower His head.

The Evil One was wearing his combat gear and he had his weapons with him = he came prepared. This means it was a military coup that took place that night, when the banquet was held. He must have stormed into the palace with his warriors, all ready to fight in their armors with their weapons, while everyone else was dressed for the banquet and not prepared for a full scale military attack. He used the element of surprise to his advantage.

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082c3b  No.14671050

>>14671042

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Look at how he is stabbing the King, it’s as if he swung that dagger right into the abdomen of the King. Since he was pulling His hair down at the same time, I believe the Evil One was terribly ticked off at that specific moment. I think a verbal confrontation took place after they captured then tied up the King. Seems like the Evil One was not getting what he wanted nor was he hearing the answers he wanted to hear coming out from the King. It’s in a moment of fury that he yanked the hair of the King and stabbed Him in the abdomen. It was a moment of pure madness from the Evil One.

We also know that the Evil One, along with his co-conspirators, consumed the flesh of the King. See how he stabbed the King in the abdomen? I think the Evil One opened the body of the King after he murdered Him. He then, either took out His heart, or His liver to eat it. I’m basing this on the type of sacrifices we saw taking place from different civilizations/cultures worldwide; mostly how the Aztecs used to take out the heart of the victim to consume it; thinking they are consuming the strength , the might and the life force of the victim. This idea comes from the murder of the King and how the Evil One consumed some of His flesh, most probably the heart.

You think this is totally insane, mentally sick, and absolutely psychotic? I agree with you because that is exactly WHOM the Evil One was.Let’s go back to the Utu Wikiepdia page and finish it.

“Worship

Utu was worshipped in Sumer from the very earliest times. The oldest documents mentioning him date to around 3500 BC, during the first stages of Sumerian writing. His main temples, which were both known as E-babbar ("White House"), were located in Sippar and in Larsa. Utu continued to be venerated until the end of Mesopotamian culture and was worshipped for well over 3,000 years. Utu's main personality characteristics are his kindness and generosity, but, like all other Mesopotamian deities, he was not above refusing a request which inconvenienced him. In the Hurro-Akkadian bilingual Weidner god list, Utu is equated with the Hurrian sun-god Šimigi. In the Ugaritic trilingual version of the Weidner god list, Šimigi and Utu are both equated with Lugalbanda.”

>> The King of kings was kind and generous but the Evil One was not. So which Sun deity are we talking about here? Is it the Greater Sun or the lesser sun? It can be both, depending where the good guys and the bad guys settled in Mesopotamia. Remember anons, both sides settled in there gradually.

I got some chills when I heard that the main temples of Utu were called the White House. I automatically thought of the White House in the United States. So I’m wondering if that building in the States wasn’t named like that ON PURPOSE by the Bloodlines to point out it’s the House of the Evil One? There is a lot of crazy stuff going around. I wonder if this was one of them.

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082c3b  No.14671058

>>14671050

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“Family

Utu was the twin brother of Inanna, the Queen of Heaven, whose domain encompassed a broad variety of different powers. In Sumerian texts, Inanna and Utu are shown as extremely close; in fact, their relationship frequently borders on incestuous. Utu is usually the son of Nanna, the god of the moon, and his wife, Ningal, but is sometimes also described as the son of An or Enlil. His wife was the goddess Sherida, later known in Akkadian as Aya.”

>> Seems like here we are talking about the Evil Couple. Sherida might be an aspect, a form of the Evil Lady. So here, they are telling us they were brother and sister and they relationship they had was a close one, to a point some thought it might be incestuous. What if it really was like that?

“Sherida was a goddess of beauty, fertility, and sexual love, possibly because light was seen as inherently beautiful, or because of the sun's role in promoting agricultural fertility. They were believed to have two offspring: the goddess Kittu, whose name means "Truth", and the god Misharu, whose name means "Justice".By the time of the Old Babylonian Period (c. 1830 – c. 1531 BC), Sherida, and consequently Utu, was associated with nadītu, an order of cloistered women who devoted their lives to the gods. Utu's charioteer Bunene is sometimes described as his son. Bunene was worshipped independently from Utu as a god of justice in Sippar and Uruk during the Old Babylonian Period and he was also worshipped at Assur. The dream god Sisig is also described as his son.”

>> Well, here you go anons, Sherida was a form of the Evil Lady = sexual love. And it seems the information we got from Asmodeus is converging with what we got here: the Evil Couple had 2 children = a boy and a girl. This also matches up the iconography from the bronze Plaque of the Hells where we see Lamashtu nursing 2 different animals; indicating they were of different genders. As for the other children mentioned; well, I’m sure the Evil One had a harem and plenty of mistresses since he was a perverted sex addict, so he might have had children with other women than the Evil Lady. This is also projected in most of Dracula’s movies in Hollywood by the way.

“Utu, later worshipped by the East Semitic Akkadian-speaking Babylonians as Shamash, was the ancient Mesopotamian sun god, god of justice, morality, and truth, and the twin of the Mesopotamian goddess Inanna (Ishtar in the Assyrio-Babylonian language), the Queen of Heaven. His main temples were in the cities of Sippar and Larsa. He was believed to ride through the heavens in his sun chariot and see all things that happened in the day. He was the enforcer of divine justice and was thought to aid those in distress. According to Sumerian mythology, he helped protect Dumuzid when the galla demons tried to drag him to the Underworld and he appeared to the hero Ziusudra after the Great Flood. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, he helps Gilgamesh defeat the ogre Humbaba.”

>> I’m sure glad I finished with Utu, I didn’t like working on him one bit. Gave me plenty of headaches since it’s confused with the King of kings. It’s hard to tell sometimes whom is what when researching Shamash/Utu.

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5494bc  No.14677939

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>>14671058

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Before moving on, I want to check two artifacts, then talk about a related issue. Let’s start with the artifact: it’s a Sumerian Cylinder Seal. The Main Stream History tells us we see people worshiping Shamash on this Cylinder Seal. But if you look closely, we have a different story in front of our eyes.

We have a scene here that is divided into 2 unequal parts when it comes to their size.

The first part (the one on your left hand side) is the smaller one. We can clearly see a line drawn on the floor for the entire scene, but additionally, this smaller scene on your left hand has also a thin line drawn on 3 sides of the standing person: this line is indicating that the person standing is in an enclosed place, like a house, a temple, any type of building. On top of the head of the person, where the roof lines meet, there is a star or something like a spark: this is to indicate the light coming out of the head of this person. I told anons before that all the Sebetti rulers and their warriors have light coming out of them, it’s the Spiritual light.

Look carefully what he is wearing and compare it what the Evil One is wearing in the relief where he is murdering the King of kings (previously seen artifact – starting page 1 366). It’s clear, this is his war clothing. He is standing on some sort of small podium = elevated surface to indicate that he is from a high status.

Now look carefully to everything around him: the details. In the blue box, standing right behind him is an animal that looks like a winged Antelope – not surprised to find him here, this is a multi-morph armor. In red boxes, right behind his head, we have 2 of the weapons we saw on the 4th register of the bronze Plaque of the Hells: we can see the winged flying machine and we see the 7 dots = indicating the blasters of the Serpent Sebetti warriors. There is no mistake here anons that this person, whomever it is, is a Horned Serpent warrior but since he is standing on higher ground, it means he is of noble birth, someone superior than the average, normal person.

Then in green boxes, we have the rosette or you can name it the star, or whatever you want….it’s indicating this person used the beam of light to come down or has the ability to activate it. As for the “beads” bracelets, we’ve been seeing it around for some time now but it’s very intriguing; I don’t know if this could be the Shenu Ring or something else, like the communication bracelets worn in the Movie Black Panther – page 1 024.

There is a very odd detail right above the winged Antelope: there is a lozenge with a big dot in its middle = making it look like an EYE. I have no idea what this could be.

In the other part of this scene, we have a person, dressed in the same way = warrior and he is holding both of his palms up as if he is about to receive something from the other person.

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5494bc  No.14677942

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>>14677939

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Right behind him, there is an Antelope, in the blue box, very clearly depicted and on top of it, in the red box, we have another weapon from the 4th register of the bronze Plaque of the Hells; indicating to the horn weapon used by all 3 horned Sebetti clans. Combined with the person standing in front, we say these are indication that this person was a warrior of the Antelope Clan, but he was not a Horned Serpent = not wearing a multi-morph armor. He still belonged to the Antelope Clan, but his armor was the simple one of his clan and not the multi-morphed one.

Below the Antelope, we have a clearly a rosette or a star in the green box, indicating this warrior used the beam of light = came from there. There is also a strange triangle shape in the white circle which I’m unable to identify.

I’m showing anons this artifact as an additional proof of what I’ve been talking about the merger of the Serpent and Antelope Clans = as in the Evil Duo combining their armies. My explanation is extremely different than what the Main Stream History and the Alternative History combined tell. It’s up to you to make up your mind about it all.

The second artifact is another Cylinder Seal, it’s Sumerian/Akkadian (undetermined which exactly) and I had preciously put a picture of a section of it, zooming on Inanna – page 1 245.

The scene is taking place on a mountain terrain because of all the little bumps we see. The ground is not drawn in a horizontal line as we’ve seen in in other cylinders, but it’s made of many small bumps. In the middle of the scene we see 2 high mountains in the midst of all the small bumps. This is indicating that we are dealing with a Mountain Chain here and not a single mountain standing on its own. And there is a tree growing on one of the 2 big mountains sides.

Between the 2 big mountains, there is a bearded man, wearing the horned crown, brandishing high up a saw like blade. I keep on wondering if the teeth of the saw blade are not actually flames coming out of it. We just saw this blade with Utu = the Evil One iconography (page 1 362). So this is most probably him. But look what is happening to him here. He is only depicted from waist up, oriented your left hand side. Strange isn’t it anons? It’s as if he is stuck, he is not free to move and walk around. It’s as if he is in a jam, stuck in something like quick sand which he is drowning in = sucked into the ground, while on both sides of him he is stuck between the 2 big mountains. Looks like he is entrapped, isn’t he, despite having wings?

On the left hand side big mountain, we see Inanna standing there, with her long hair, her wings and her arrows all showing. She is wearing the standard horned crown and with her extended left hand, she is holding something like a small bush over the head the Evil One. What is that? = I don’t know. And what does it mean = what is she really doing? Well, she is either handing him something that might save him from the predicament he is in; or he is dead and she is doing some religious ritual using twigs or a bush to sprinkle water or oil on him….these are just possibilities, it’s not certain. Next to her right hand, we can see the tree, I mentioned earlier, growing up from the side of the big mountain.

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3139f3  No.14685084

>>14677942

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Next to the saw like dagger of the Evil One, we see a flow of water coming out from the right side big mountain. This flow makes a nice curve at the height of the shoulder of the standing person. This is a rivers coming out of the mountain range and the fish we see, are swimming in the river. Now ask yourselves where we have a chain of mountains and a river with fish in it is flowing out of it? = Is this the Taurus mountain chain and the River Euphrates flowing down stream? It’s possible, isn’t it?

What’s interesting is what is taking place to the right side of the scene, where the River is flowing around a bearded person wearing a horned crown. This person is not from the Antelope clan despite him wearing the horned crown – I think here the horned crown is pointing that this is no ordinary person but someone from a Sebetti clan. What this bearded person is doing, he is taking one big step up, as if he is climbing the mountain to reach the Evil One = it’s as if he is on his way to get him.

Why am I saying that? Well, it’s firstly because of his stance and how he is stepping up. And secondly, he is unleashing a bird of prey on the Evil One. Look at that bird, it’s like he is going to plunge, like how the Eagles do, to catch a prey in its talons. So does this mean the Evil One is holding his saw dagger up like that to defend himself from the attacks of the ThunderBird? Look closely what is under the feet of this person = we have a bull. This is indicating this person, the one stepping onto the big mountain is someone from the Lamassu Clan and he is unleashing the ThunderBirds on the Evil One.

Incredibly, this fits perfectly with what we have discovered with Isis. She is the head of the Lamassu Clan, and she led the charge onto the Horned Serpent warriors, leading the ThunderBirds in battle = she went after the combined forces of the Evil Couple with the ThunderBirds. Here, we have it visually. Once again, the text matches the artifact. And of course we shouldn’t forget that the Evil Lady attacked the Phoenician City-States and Neith/Isis, came to the rescue of the Phoenicians; resulting in a confrontation between the 2 Sebetti queens which lasted for some time, since Neith HAD to stay in Gebal for some time.

What is for sure, here, in this artifact, the Evil One is in one heck of a trouble: he is stuck, unable to move, trapped, and at the same time, he is being attacked by the ThunderBirds under the leadership of the Lamassu Clan. In the same time, the Evil Lady is standing there, not really helpful, is she? We don’t see her shooting her arrows at the ThunderBird, but instead she is simply holding something like a bush above the Evil One; maybe giving it to him….or it’s a part of some religious ritual – I don’t know for sure.

Right behind the Lamassu warrior, we have a bearded person standing, wearing a horned crown. The way his hands are positioned, it gives you the impression as if she is in a conversation or trying to talk with the Lamassu warrior. What is bizarre with this person, is that he’s got a double face = one on the front and one on the back of his head. No, he is not a monster or a mutant or anything like that. This person is playing 2 roles in 2 different scenes:

In the first scene, he is talking to the Lamassu warrior: that’s why he has a face on the front of his head.

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3139f3  No.14685097

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>>14685084

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In the second scene, he is standing on one side of the inscription and looking at the other archer whom is standing on the other side of the inscription. This is done to avoid drawing the same person twice and this is why we see him with a face on the back of his head. He is one person playing in 2 different scenes. I’ve put a white vertical line for anons to show them how half of this person is with the Lamassu warrior and half of him is with the inscription scene.

The inscription is enclosed within a square box and on each side of it we have a person standing. I just talked about the double faced one. The other person on the other side of the inscription is also wearing a horned crown, is bearded and he is wearing military clothing (like the ones we’ve seen before), as well as a bow and an arrow. Look at his long hair and how it’s got spikes coming out of it = this is to indicate his hair was braided; while look at Inanna’s hair, it’s a flowing line = not braided. Is this archer warrior from the Antelope Clan? It’s not certain because there is another clan whom used to have archers in its rank as well. The horned crown only indicated he is from a Sebetti clan = higher status. It became a standard design to point to them.

Under the inscription, there is a Lion, a roaring lion. This is pointing back to the Kingdom where they all come from. It’s looking more and more that the Lion is the heraldic animal symbol of the King of kings and Atlantis itself.

I don’t know when this scene took place. Was it before the Cataclysm was triggered? Was it AS it was being triggered? Or was it after the Cataclysm was triggered? One thing for sure is that this scene was taking place as the Evil One was about to die: he is not dead yet, but he is trapped and he is about to be attacked by the ThunderBirds under the leadership of the Lamassu warriors. I’m saying it once again, the text fits the artifact. As in we know the ones whom most probably killed the Evil One were the ThunderBirds lead by Neith. This goes back to the Thief Woman with her son, whom killed Inanna’s husband Dumuzid ^_~ and it goes back to everything I’ve said there, including about Archangel Michael being the one whom slayed the Evil One.

Where is this scene taking place? I think it’s taking place on the floating mountain = the Anu Heaven, but since the younger generation never saw it, unlike the ancestors = survivors of the Flood, then, they drew the only mountain they saw and know of = Taurus mountain chain with the Euphrates coming out from there. It’s the only visual they have of such a mountain after all. I don’t believe this is indicating an actual geographic location currently on Earth. But since the younger generations never saw the Floating mountain (mentioned in the Native American tales), the Taurus mountain chain is the example they’ve got for how a mountain looks like.

I’m going to stop it here with the artifacts, next, I want to talk a bit about Ra, from Ancient Egypt. Where does he fit in all of this? Is he the lesser sun or the Greater Sun?

There are some similarities with what we read about Utu and Ra; but I think Ra is the King of kings, as in the Greater Light, the Greater Sun. Why did I pick Ra as the Greater Sun = the King of kings? For many reasons, here are some, putting them randomly as I remember them:

1 – He has for enemy Apep and he fought him. Apep is known as the embodiment of chaos and he is a destroyer (starting page 69).

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3139f3  No.14685111

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>>14685097

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2 – Apep has a malevolent eye with which he combats Ra. But the Eye of Ra is among the few things that can counter the evil eye of Apep. We are talking about the blasters from the Serpent Sebetti armor here anons, being used to fight the King of kings. But the soldiers of the good King also have a weapon which can counter the Serpent Sebetti blaster; that weapon is the Wedjat = the Sharur weapon wielded by the ThunderBirds and other clans, it emits electricity. So here, we have one Evil Eye which is the blaster of the Serpent Sebetti; and we have a Good Eye = Wedjat, which is the electricity weapon of the other clans, mostly the ThunderBirds.

3 - Ra doesn’t come down to Earth and he stays in his Solar Barque somewhere above in the sky, which fits perfectly with where the Royal Palace could be = the Tree mentioned before in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

4 – The Eye of Ra, turned into many forms = most are Sebetti warriors from all clans, but the most famous transformation of the Eye of Ra is in the shape of Feline, which seems more and more likely to be the Heraldic animal of the King of kings = Lions are symbol of royalty.

5 – The Eye of Ra is talked about as if it’s a weapon and when it was unleashed a huge massacre occurred on humanity. I don’t know about you anons, but, this sounds like the Cataclysm. And we already know that the King of kings was the only one whom could control a very specific mysterious device. But the Evil One tried to temper with it, or did something to it – I don’t know for sure what it is. So that object exploded which trigger a huge Cataclysm, killing most of humanity. In some “unclear” passages of the Coffin Texts, it is said that Apep is thought of trying to steal the Eye of Ra from its master during combat. This proves I was right when I said that the Evil One tried to take the device, and he killed the King of kings and there was a fight with the Royal guards.

6 – The Eye of Ra is equated to Sothis = Sirius; which we know is connected to Orion Constellation which in turn we know it’s mysteriously connected, linked to both Osiris and Isis; but we don’t know how or why.

7 – Ra is sometimes depicted as a Bird of Prey which along with the Eye of Ra, makes it terribly confusing with Horus and the Eye of Horus for ancient readers and modern ones as well. Why was Ra associated with Birds of Prey = ThunderBirds?

These are just a few of many and I can cite more when I check Horus and Isis. I will find more information pointing that Ra is the Greater Light = the Greater Sun = the King of kings. I think when the Dynastic rule started in Egypt, some of the texts were unclear and some stuff got mixed up a bit. Just a bit though, it’s not as confusing as the situation is in Mesopotamia. In Ancient Egypt, it’s just a tad of confusion, like how we have 2 Eyes: a good one and a bad one.The Ancient Egyptians understood there are Eyes but they didn’t understand what those Eyes were = weapons.

Please listen carefully to the videos attached to this page and the previous one. Ghidorah is the Evil One = he was not part of the natural order of things. He is a FLASE King. While Mothra is the QUEEN of Monsters = the Evil Lady.She comes out from an egg. Both are projections of the truth int his Hollywood movie. It’s always been right in front of the our eyes, mostly when it’s about the Evil Couple.

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3139f3  No.14685875

>>14685111

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It’s big time to take a look at the 5th Sebetti ruler = the King of kings. We’ve already got information about Him from when taking a look at the other Sebetti rulers; as it was the case with the Evil One. Finding out more, is always good, so next, we are going to take a look at ANU from Mesopotamia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anu

“Anu, Anum, or Ilu (Akkadian: AN), also called An (Sumerian: AN, from an “Sky”, “Heaven”), is the divine personification of the sky, supreme god, and ancestor of all the deities in ancient Mesopotamian religion. Anu was believed to be the supreme source of all authority, for the other gods and for all mortal rulers, and he is described in one text as the one "who contains the entire universe". He is identified with the part of the sky located between +17° and -17° declination which contains 23 constelations. Along with his sons Enlil and Enki, constitutes the highest divine triad personifying the three bands of constellations of the vault of the sky. By the time of the earliest written records, Anu was rarely worshipped, and veneration was instead devoted to his son Enlil, but, throughout Mesopotamian history, the highest deity in the pantheon was always said to possess the anûtu, meaning "Heavenly power". Anu's primary role in myths is as the ancestor of the Anunnaki, the major deities of Sumerian religion. His primary cult center was the Eanna temple in the city of Uruk, but, by the Akkadian Period (c. 2334–2154 BCE), his authority in Uruk had largely been ceded to the goddess Inanna, the Queen of Heaven.”

>> I don’t know about you anons, but I find this paragraph to be superb. It’s well written and it says everything that I have been telling you about the King of kings. He is the supreme leader of everyone and everything. He is the King of the Sebettis = the other gods and the King of all humans as well. He has the top authority about everything. Amazingly and very true = He does contain the entire universe in him; if you cannot understand that, then remember the powers of professor Xavier from X-men enhanced by using Cerebro.

Anyone notice the 17? And it’s the part of the sky which He is identified with.

I would like to stay away from both Enlil and Enki, at least for now. This is a bottomless tunnel, and I don’t want to get in it or I will never reach my goals. I would like to caution researchers that both are depicted as good and as bad, depending on the text. So be careful. When it comes to these 2, it’s as clear as mud.

Anu was not that much worshiped from Mesopotamia, giving you the feeling that He is afar, or kinda forgotten. But His worship never stopped in Mesopotamia and He was always considered as the head of the pantheon. This is why I told anons before that not all of Mesopotamia were bad or were good. The Evil Lady didn’t settle down there first. She came later on, with her gang. But before she did, some good clans settled in Mesopotamia. This is why we have some type of co-existence in Mesopotamia of both the good side and the bad side. And with the cult of the Evil Lady spreading through the centuries, this same situation occurred in Syria, and the rest of the Middle East, including inside each and every single City-State.

I love it when it’s written that Anu is said to possess the anûtu, meaning "Heavenly power”. I’m smiling from ear to ear. This is Holy Spiritual Power of the Great King. I’ve talked about it before and explained it: it’s in His genes, it’s in His D.N.A. He was born with it. And it’s this same Spirit that exists in us, human, in smaller, much smaller quantity, and it connects us to Him = the King of kings and to our Heavenly Father = the Creator. And yes, the King of kings is connected to our Heavenly Father = we believe He is the direct descendant of our Heavenly Father = as in the King of kings is the SON of GOD, our Heavenly Father. Just like Christ is ^_^ and I will be explaining later how Christ is linked to THEM both.

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3139f3  No.14685896

>>14685875

(Please read from the start)

So it was during the Akkadian period that the cult of Anu = the King of kings, was replaced by the cult of Inanna. This is an indication that the good guys lost authority in the City-State of Uruk and the bad guys took control of the City-State. First thing they did was to change the cult in the temple of Eanna to the cult of the Evil Lady. In other words, that temple was “dirtied” and (((they))) keep on doing that, even in nowadays: just look at the number of churches which were desecrated by Satan worshipers? See what I mean? This is why the researcher gotta stop at the end of the Akkadian period. It’s when the old generation died, passed away and the new generation came in and the mutation started, big time. It’s like there is a cut there.

“Anu's consort in the earliest Sumerian texts is the goddess Uraš, but she is later the goddess Ki and, in Akkadian texts, the goddess Antu, whose name is a feminine form of Anu. Anu briefly appears in the Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, in which his daughter Ishtar (the East Semitic equivalent to Inanna) persuades him to give her the Bull of Heaven so that she may send it to attack Gilgamesh. The incident results in the death of Enkidu. In another legend, Anu summons the mortal hero Adapa before him for breaking the wing of the south wind. Anu orders for Adapa to be given the food and water of immortality, which Adapa refuses, having been warned beforehand by Enki that Anu will offer him the food and water of death. In ancient Hittite religion, Anu is a former ruler of the gods, who was overthrown by his son Kumarbi, who bit off his father's genitals and gave birth to the storm god Teshub. Teshub overthrew Kumarbi, avenged Anu's mutilation, and became the new king of the gods. This story was the later basis for the castration of Ouranos in Hesiod's Theogony.”

>> The first part is obvious, and we know that Inanna/Ishtar/Evil Lady/Lilith is the daughter of the Great King. I already explained about the Bull. The food and water of immortality is echoing cannibalism = eating human flesh and drinking human blood – it all depends which side wrote the story. As for the Hittites, well, so far, with what I’ve got in this thread, they are the first to mention a “COUP” by the younger royals, to take the throne of Heaven from their Father. And this is how this idea got into Greek mythology = via Hittites migration when their empire crumbled.

“Worship

In Mesopotamian religion, Anu was the personification of the sky, the utmost power, the supreme god, the one "who contains the entire universe". He was identified with the north ecliptic pole centered in Draco. His name meant the "One on High",and together with his sons Enlil and Enki (Ellil and Ea in Akkadian), he formed a triune conception of the divine, in which Anu represented a "transcendental" obscurity, Enlil the "transcendent" and Enki the "immanent" aspect of the divine. The three great gods and the three divisions of the heavens were Anu (the ancient god of the heavens), Enlil (son of Anu, god of the air and the forces of nature, and lord of the gods), and Ea (the beneficent god of earth and life, who dwelt in the abyssal waters). The Babylonians divided the sky into three parts named after them: The equator and most of the zodiac occupied the Way of Anu, the northern sky was the Way of Enlil, and the southern sky was the Way of Ea. The boundaries of each Way were at 17°N and 17°S.”

>> When you read this paragraph you get the impression that Anu is actually the Evil One, mostly with the connection to Draco. And we already know that Enlil and Enki were among those whom conspired in the Epic of Gilgamesh to wipe out mankind via the Deluge. And yet Anu is said to be the personification of the SKY where he lived = the Up Above; as well as being the one whom contains the whole universe. On one hand we’ve got indications that Anu is the Evil One, on the other hand we’ve got indications that Anu is the Great King. So which one is it?

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3139f3  No.14685911

>>14685896

(Please read from the start)

Look at the DATE anons, look at the date: Babylonians. I believe this entire paragraph was written according to the Babylonians view on Anu. Look at how the paragraph starts in an ambiguous way = in Mesopotamian religion; but amazingly, they do not tell us which era and which City-State. See how tricky this is?

I believe that starting the Akkadian era, the younger generation started to confuse, mix, merge the attributes of the Great King with the ones of the Evil One. And it went into full gear during the Assyrian era where they totally merged the 2 Sebetti rulers.

“Though Anu was the supreme god, he was rarely worshipped, and, by the time that written records began, the most important cult was devoted to his son Enlil. Anu's primary role in the Sumerian pantheon was as an ancestor figure; the most powerful and important deities in the Sumerian pantheon were believed to be the offspring of Anu and his consort Ki. These deities were known as the Anunnaki, which means "offspring of Anu".Although it is sometimes unclear which deities were considered members of the Anunnaki, the group probably included the "seven gods who decree":Anu, Enlil, Enki, Ninhursag, Nanna, Utu, and Inanna.”

>> Enlil and Enki have been a source of a huge headache for me because I see bad and good in them at the same time; depending on the story and the era it was written in. Sometimes I also feel like they are the same and one person but seen under 2 facets, 2 aspects of them. Sometimes I think they are like the Serpent and Adam from the Garden of Eden story: as in the Serpent Sebetti king was kind and good at first = Adam. When his illness showed up, he transformed into the Serpent = the Evil One. There is a possibility we are dealing with the same situation here with Enlil and Enki. It’s possible, but not certain. This is a knot that I’ve been unable to undo so far.

As for the Royal 7 mentioned here, we have 5 males and 2 females – the number 7 of heavenly rulers is correct, just like what I have found out. I also think the name list given is not their real names. As well as I’ve been having doubts that some are the one and same deity, mentioned 3 times under 3 different aspects to him = Uttu. Enlil and Enki (not certain) = the Evil One; and I think Nanna and Inanna are different aspects of the Evil Lady. Whomever wrote this, seems to be from the younger generation and didn’t catch what was going on.

“Anu's main cult center was the Eanna temple, whose name means "House of Heaven" (Sumerian: e2-anna; Cuneiform: 𒂍𒀭 E2.AN), in Uruk. Although the temple was originally dedicated to Anu, it was later transformed into the primary cult center of Inanna. After its dedication to Inanna, the temple seems to have housed priestesses of the goddess.”

>> I already explained this.

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4d3cfd  No.14692511

>>14685911

(Please read from the start)

“Anu was believed to be source of all legitimate power; he was the one who bestowed the right to rule upon gods and kings alike. According to scholar Stephen Bertman, Anu "… was the supreme source of authority among the gods, and among men, upon whom he conferred kingship. As heaven's grand patriarch, he dispensed justice and controlled the laws known as the meh that governed the universe." In inscriptions commemorating his conquest of Sumer, Sargon of Akkad, the founder of the Akkadian Empire, proclaims Anu and Inanna as the sources of his authority. A hymn from the early second millennium BCE professes that "his utterance ruleth over the obedient company of the gods”.”

>> I agree with what is said about Anu being the one whom governed the Universe and conferred kingship. Remember how Inanna = the Evil Lady was not satisfied with her share = her kingdom = what she got to rule over and demanded more from Anu? He is not called the King of kings out for nothing. He was the ultimate ruler.

“Anu's original name in Sumerian is An, of which Anu is a Semiticized form. Anu was also identified with the Semitic god Ilu or El from early on. The functions of Anu and Enlil frequently overlapped, especially during later periods as the cult of Anu continued to wane and the cult of Enlil rose to greater prominence. In later times, Anu was fully superseded by Enlil. Eventually, Enlil was, in turn, superseded by Marduk, the national god of ancient Babylon. Nonetheless, references to Anu's power were preserved through archaic phrases used in reference to the ruler of the gods. The highest god in the pantheon was always said to possess the anûtu, which literally means "Heavenly power".In the Babylonian Enûma Eliš, the gods praise Marduk, shouting "Your word is Anu!”

>> Shallow researchers call this the evolution of Anu’s charateristics. It’s not, this is NO evolution, this is mutation = distortion. See what I meant earlier when I said the younger generation confused and merged Anu with Enlil = one of the possible candidates of being the Evil One? Then, as the Evil Clan took over Mesopotamia and conquered one City-State after the other, Enlil and Inanna replaced the good deities, including Anu.

As for El…don’t fall for that trap. Here, they don’t tell us in this page the why, the what, the how and the where. They threw a vague sentence in the paragraph so that your thoughts would indirectly connect Anu to El = thinking this is God all mighty. Be careful. Research whom Jewish El is.

“Although Anu was a very important deity, his nature was often ambiguous and ill-defined; he almost never appears in Mesopotamian artwork and has no known anthropomorphic iconography. During the Kassite Period (c. 1600—1155 BCE) and Neo-Assyrian Period (911—609 BCE), Anu was represented by a horned cap. The Amorite god Amurru was sometimes equated with Anu. Later, during the Seleucid Empire (213—63 BCE), Anu was identified with Enmešara and Dumuzid.”

>> See how later generation are mixing the Great King with the Evil One. How many times did the Evil One stand in front of his followers and claimed out loud he is the ultimate king? This ideology was passed on to nowadays Bloodlines and (((they))) think (((they))) have a right to the throne of Heaven. The truth is (((they))) don’t because (((they))) were never heirs to the throne. The heir is chosen according the amount of Holy Spiritual Power he has in his genes.

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4d3cfd  No.14692523

>>14692511

(Please read from the start)

Of course no one knows how Anu looks like because no human ever saw Him. He never came down to Earth and always stayed in the floating mountain of His. The only ones whom ever got to be in His presence are the other Sebetti rulers and their warriors, including the vassals of the Sebetti rulers by the way. As in only the higher ups = the nobles of Atlantis ever got to be in the presence of the Great King and were able to see Him.

I’ve already talked about the Horned Crown on page 1 034 and how it could be the stacking of the 3 horned Sebetti clans special weapons originally, but it can also be explained that later generations used the horned crown to indicate the rank of the person = higher ups; either nobility or deity.

“Family

The earliest Sumerian texts make no mention of where Anu came from or how he came to be the ruler of the gods; instead, his preeminence is simply assumed. In early Sumerian texts from the third millennium BC, Anu's consort is the goddess Uraš; the Sumerians later attributed this role to Ki, the personification of the earth. The Sumerians believed that rain was Anu's seed and that, when it fell, it impregnated Ki, causing her to give birth to all the vegetation of the land. During the Akkadian Period, Ki was supplanted by Antu, a goddess whose name is probably a feminine form of Anu. The Akkadians believed that rain was milk from the clouds, which they believed were Antu's breasts.”

>> I am going to sound odd here, but: wherever Anu came from, He brought life with Him from there. He brought all existing life on this planet with Him from where He came from. This explains a lot of things, and in the same time, it implies we are a colony. This planet was colonized by Space Travelers, HUMAN Space Travelers.

“Anu is commonly described as the "father of the gods", and a vast array of deities were thought to have been his offspring over the course of Mesopotamian history. Inscriptions from Lagash dated to the late third millennium BC identify Anu as the father of Gatumdug, Baba, and Ninurta. Later literary texts proclaim Adad, Enki, Enlil, Girra, Nanna-Suen, Nergal and Šara as his sons and Inanna-Ishtar, Nanaya, Nidaba, Ninisinna, Ninkarrak, Ninmug, Ninnibru, Ninsumun, Nungal, and Nusku as his daughters. The demons Lamaštu, Asag, and the Sebettu were thought to have been Anu's creations.”

>> See what the younger generations did back then? Since Anu was considered as the Father of all the gods (= the other Sebetti rulers), the younger generation simply threw any deity out there as the offspring of Anu, without any sort of verification to the authenticity of the claim. What a salad this is!

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4d3cfd  No.14692546

>>14692523

(Please read from the start)

“Mythology

Sumerian

Sumerian creation myth

The main source of information about the Sumerian creation myth is the prologue to the epic poem Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld, which briefly describes the process of creation: at first, there is only Nammu, the primeval sea. Then, Nammu gives birth to An (the Sumerian name for Anu), the sky, and Ki, the earth. An and Ki mate with each other, causing Ki to give birth to Enlil, the god of the wind. Enlil separates An from Ki and carries off the earth as his domain, while An carries off the sky.”

>> We already know the truth and the sequence of events didn’t go down the way it is said in this paragraph. Anu is the King of kings whom lived Up Above. The Cataclysm was unleashed just after His death and the world was engulfed in flames, water, wind and the ground was changing in different ways. The primeval sea is the Flood waters. Only a few mountains tips were above water as was the case with Mt Ararat. The wind blew and cleared the clouds whom were blocking the Sunlight (remember mega volcanoes and ice age) = this is how the Sky was separated from the Earth = the clouds covering the Earth scattered. As the Sunlight hit the surface of the Earth, the ice age ended and the Flood waters started to slowly recede with time = the Earth was slowly repopulated.

“In Sumerian, the designation "An" was used interchangeably with "the heavens" so that in some cases it is doubtful whether, under the term, the god An or the heavens is being denoted. In Sumerian cosmogony, heaven was envisioned as a series of three domes covering the flat earth; Each of these domes of heaven was believed to be made of a different precious stone. An was believed to be the highest and outermost of these domes, which was thought to be made of reddish stone. Outside of this dome was the primordial body of water known as Nammu. An's sukkal, or attendant, was the god Ilabrat.”

>> I don’t want to even think about Flat Earth; that one is hard for me. I rather stay away from it now and focus on what I have on my hands. This is all crazy stuff. Anyway…. Read the most interesting part is that we have 3 domes….NOT ONE…BUT THREE. Does this mean there were 3 colonized planets in the solar system? ^_^ I’m going to let you think about all of this for now. Read carefully where Anu was thought to live = the highest and outermost dome with reddish stone. Do we have a red planet in the solar system?

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4d3cfd  No.14692560

>>14692546

(Please read from the start)

“Inanna myths

Inanna and Ebih, otherwise known as Goddess of the Fearsome Divine Powers, is a 184-line poem written in Sumerian by the Akkadian poetess Enheduanna. It describes An's granddaughter Inanna's confrontation with Mount Ebih, a mountain in the Zagros mountain range. An briefly appears in a scene from the poem in which Inanna petitions him to allow her to destroy Mount Ebih. An warns Inanna not to attack the mountain, but she ignores his warning and proceeds to attack and destroy Mount Ebih regardless.

The poem Inanna Takes Command of Heaven is an extremely fragmentary, but important, account of Inanna's conquest of the Eanna temple in Uruk. It begins with a conversation between Inanna and her brother Utu in which Inanna laments that the Eanna temple is not within their domain and resolves to claim it as her own. The text becomes increasingly fragmentary at this point in the narrative, but appears to describe her difficult passage through a marshland to reach the temple, while a fisherman instructs her on which route is best to take. Ultimately, Inanna reaches An, who is shocked by her arrogance, but nevertheless concedes that she has succeeded and that the temple is now her domain. The text ends with a hymn expounding Inanna's greatness. This myth may represent an eclipse in the authority of the priests of An in Uruk and a transfer of power to the priests of Inanna.”

>> I already explained all of this, so I’m not going to repeat. Well, at least they are admitting in the Wikipedia page that they are biased towards Inanna in the second paragraph when this specific story of her conquest of the Eanna Temple was written. It didn’t end with her getting the throne of Heaven as she wished for. But to make their queen and founding mother look good, they attributed to her the victory = since (((they))) always project (((themselves))) as might, invincible and winners. That is…if you believe in the tooth fairy.

“Akkadian

Epic of Gilgamesh

In a scene from the Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, written in the late second millennium BC, Anu's daughter Ishtar, the East Semitic equivalent to Inanna, attempts to seduce the hero Gilgamesh. When Gilgamesh spurns her advances, Ishtar angrily goes to heaven and tells Anu that Gilgamesh has insulted her. Anu asks her why she is complaining to him instead of confronting Gilgamesh herself. Ishtar demands that Anu give her the Bull of Heaven and swears that if he does not give it to her, she will break down the gates of the Underworld and raise the dead to eat the living. Anu gives Ishtar the Bull of Heaven, and Ishtar sends it to attack Gilgamesh and his friend Enkidu.”

>> This is already explained as well.

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4d3cfd  No.14692581

>>14692560

(Please read from the start)

“Adapa myth

In the myth of Adapa, which is first attested during the Kassite Period, Anu notices that the south wind does not blow towards the land for seven days. He asks his sukkal Ilabrat the reason. Ilabrat replies that is because Adapa, the priest of Ea (the East Semitic equivalent of Enki) in Eridu, has broken the south wind's wing. Anu demands that Adapa be summoned before him, but, before Adapa sets out, Ea warns him not to eat any of the food or drink any of the water the gods offer him, because the food and water are poisoned. Adapa arrives before Anu and tells him that the reason he broke the south wind's wing was because he had been fishing for Ea and the south wind had caused a storm, which had sunk his boat. Anu's doorkeepers Dumuzid and Ningishzida speak out in favor of Adapa. This placates Anu's fury and he orders that, instead of the food and water of death, Adapa should be given the food and water of immortality as a reward. Adapa, however, follows Ea's advice and refuses the meal. The story of Adapa was beloved by scribes, who saw him as the founder of their trade and a vast plethora of copies and variations of the myth have been found across Mesopotamia, spanning the entire course of Mesopotamian history. The story of Adapa's appearance before Anu has been compared to the later Jewish story of Adam and Eve, recorded in the Book of Genesis. In the same way that Anu forces Adapa to return to earth after he refuses to eat the food of immortality, Yahweh in the biblical story drives Adam out of the Garden of Eden to prevent him from eating the fruit from the tree of life. Similarly, Adapa was seen as the prototype for all priests; whereas Adam in the Book of Genesis is presented as the prototype of all mankind.”

>> When you read it, we feel like there are some gaps in this story. It’s like there are some cut parts that were reattached to one another. I don’t think this is the pure, original form of this story: this was edited or rewritten = the story retold. And the late = Kassite period, is there to support a mutation or a distortion happened in the story. The food and drink of life is human flesh and human blood. And no, I don’t think the Great King would have offered human flesh to be eaten. I think in the later period, the influence of the Evil Cult got in and it merged with the good story. This is how we got such details in this story.

It’s laughable how they immediately associated this story to Yahweh and how they insinuated that he is similar to the Great King. This was the dream and desire of the Evil One = to be the Great King, have his power and his throne. So in his lunacy, he started to take the attributes and characteristics of the Great King and promote them as his own. Like how he wanted to be the creator of life and since he couldn’t, in his lunacy, he started to create Frankenstein like creatures. Same thing with his lunacy of believing he can control that nuclear like device, but he couldn’t since he doesn’t have the required Spiritual Power, so that thing blew up. Lunacy is a consequence/effect of his illness but it’s not his illness. It’s his rare illness which causes him to be demented.

They admitted it themselves in this paragraph that the story of Adam and Eve was written later on; it’s as if they are hinting it might have found its roots from the story of Adapa. But they made sure to portray the Evil One as God in the story of Adam and Eve. The Jews always embellish the Evil One, paint him in a good way and they give him the attributes and characteristics of the King of kings; which is extremely far from the truth. Is there something that is not bogus in their little fairy tale book?

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4d3cfd  No.14692605

>>14692581

(Please read from the start)

“Erra and Išum

In the epic poem Erra and Išum, which was written in Akkadian in the eighth century BC, Anu gives Erra, the god of destruction, the Sebettu, which are described as personified weapons. Anu instructs Erra to use them to massacre humans when they become overpopulated and start making too much noise (Tablet I, 38ff).”

>> This is not Anu, the Great King. The King of kings is not moody like that and He loves everyone, He doesn’t wish the wipe out humanity. These are the characteristics of the Evil One. Here again, the attributes and characteristics of the Great King were mixed with the Evil One, because he is a wanna be Great King. It’s like we have a 2 sets of Royals here:

1 – The Great King and the Great Queen.

2 – A fake wanna be great king and a fake and wanna be great queen.

The later generations didn’t understand this and with the evil cult expending and infiltrating one City-State after the other in the entire Middle East, not just Mesopotamia; the younger generation misunderstood and mixed the 2 sets up and gave the attributes and characteristics of the good couple to the bad couple. But you see anons, you can immediately detect the mutation when you understand that the Great King is the giver of life and He is loving, caring and good. He doesn’t hurt humans, He protects them and cares for them. The opposite is true for the Evil One.

“Hittite

In Hittite mythology, Anu overthrows his father Alalu and proclaims himself ruler of the universe. He himself is later overthrown by his own son Kumarbi; Anu attempts to flee, but Kumarbi bites off Anu's genitals and swallows them, Kumarbi then banishes Anu to the underworld, along with his allies, the old gods, whom the Hittites syncretized with the Anunnaki. As a consequence of swallowing Anu's genitals, Kumarbi becomes impregnated with Anu's son Teshub and four other offspring. After he grows to maturity, Teshub overthrows his father Kumarbi, thus avenging his other father Anu's overthrow and mutilation.”

>> Here it’s obvious that the Evil One is overlapping with the Great King; as in the attributes and characteristics of the Great King were given to the Evil One. This story is obviously hugely mutated here and it’s also very obvious this is the “draft” for the Greek mythology. It’s clear how the Hittites are the water well where they Greek got the myths from. They make it sound as if it’s a none ending cycle that keeps on repeating = the younger generation always takes power via a coup. It doesn’t need a genius to understand that this story is projecting a distant past and how the Evil Couple tried to take over the throne of Heaven via a coup.

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4d3cfd  No.14692623

>>14692605

(Please read from the start)

The biting of the genitals and the “castration” is about the Evil One. We saw him bite his own penis which is where circumcision comes from in Judaism. And we’ve seen in many stories about the Evil One being castrated…as I’ve said many times already, I don’t think it’s real physical castration but more like symbolically pointing to his incapacity to have children, or his difficulty to have children. He can have some, but with great difficulty and most don’t live past their 5th birthday = early infancy death, or most are still born. This is the same illness Henry VIII and Albert Pike had; it’s called the illness of the kings. The illness of the Evil One was passed on to his descendants.

“Later influence

The series of divine coups described in the Hittite creation myth later became the basis for the Greek creation story described in the long poem Theogony, written by the Boeotian poet Hesiod in the seventh century BC. In Hesiod's poem, the primeval sky-god Ouranos is overthrown and castrated by his son Kronos in much the same manner that Anu is overthrown and castrated by Kumarbi in the Hittite story. Kronos is then, in turn, overthrown by his own son Zeus. In one Orphic myth, Kronos bites off Ouranos's genitals in exactly the same manner that Kumarbi does to Anu in the Hittite myth. Nonetheless, Robert Mondi notes that Ouranos never held mythological significance to the Greeks comparable with Anu's significance to the Mesopotamians. Instead, Mondi calls Ouranos "a pale reflection of Anu",noting that "apart from the castration myth, he has very little significance as a cosmic personality at all and is not associated with kingship in any systematic way."

>> No comments apart this is well written, well explained.

“According to Walter Burkert, an expert on ancient Greek religion, direct parallels also exist between Anu and the Greek god Zeus. In particular, the scene from Tablet VI of the Epic of Gilgamesh in which Ishtar comes before Anu after being rejected by Gilgamesh and complains to her mother Antu, but is mildly rebuked by Anu, is directly paralleled by a scene from Book V of the Iliad. In this scene, Aphrodite, the later Greek development of Ishtar, is wounded by the Greek hero Diomedes while trying to save her son Aeneas. She flees to Mount Olympus, where she cries to her mother Dione, is mocked by her sister Athena, and is mildly rebuked by her father Zeus. Not only is the narrative parallel significant, but so is the fact that Dione's name is a feminization of Zeus's own, just as Antu is a feminine form of Anu. Dione does not appear throughout the rest of the Iliad, in which Zeus's consort is instead the goddess Hera. Burkert therefore concludes that Dione is clearly a calque of Antu.”

>> The interpretation given by Burkert is correct, he is spot on.

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a376ff  No.14699105

>>14692623

(Please read from the start)

I also explained many times before that the younger generation in Mesopotamia and the Middle East didn’t understand there was a Greater Light and the lesser light = an authentic Light and a fake light. So they got confused as to whom is whom and they thought it’s one and same person. This is why we see Anu sometimes with the characteristics of the King of kings and sometimes we see Him with the characteristics of the Evil One. You can automatically see the difference by knowing whom loves and protects human, as well has behave with moral and dignity. And on the flop, you can recognize the Evil One by his hate to humans, his atrocities, his evil and his degenerated behavior.

Sometimes, one deity from later times, like Zeus can have characteristics from both. Like how Zeus is the king of the gods and yields lightning, his symbol is the Eagle = characteristics from the King of kings or the Light warriors. But he did take part of a coup to overthrow his own father and in the same time he is one big womanizer = characteristics from the Evil One. See how the younger generation messed up things and a huge mutation, mutilation occurred?

“The most direct equivalent to Anu in the Canaanite pantheon is Shamem, the personification of the sky, but Shamem almost never appears in myths and it is unclear whether the Canaanites ever regarded him as a previous ruler of the gods at all. Instead, the Canaanites seem to have ascribed Anu's attributes to El, the current ruler of the gods. In later times, the Canaanites equated El with Kronos rather than with Ouranos, and El's son Baal with Zeus. A narrative from Canaanite mythology describes the warrior-goddess Anat coming before El after being insulted, in a way that directly parallels Ishtar coming before Anu in the Epic of Gilgamesh.”

>> The parallel with Anat is correct. I will take a look at El later. For now, anons gotta understand something about him and Baal:

1 - El means god, it’s not a name, but a word meaning god. It could be any god. It could be any one of the Sebetti rulers and anyone from their warriors since they too have been seen by the normal human as gods. So the word El is used to point out both good and evil deities alike. There is one exception made is the El used in Judaism. This El points exclusively to the Jewish god as in to Yahweh. So when you are working on a text and an El is mention, be careful and check out which god it’s pointing to.

2 – Baal is in the same situation. It’s not a name, it’s a title, an honorific, it means lord. It’s got a feminine form and it’s got a plural form to the word. Have you ever seen a first name in plural? We can see some in a feminine form, like Daniel becomes Danielle or Joseph becomes Josephine…but have you ever heard of a first name in a plural form? It simply doesn’t exist.

Just like El, the word Baal is used to point to all the deities = the Sebetti rulers including their warriors. Like it or not, they are all nobles = lords: the good and the bad alike. So be careful when working on texts because it could be referring to anyone.

Baal and El are not a single, unique person. These words point out to many different persons = from the good clans and from the evil clan alike. So you always gotta check out whom they are talking about = a good Sebetti/ warrior or a bad Sebetti/ warrior.

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a376ff  No.14699120

>>14699105

(Please read from the start)

“El is characterized as the malk olam ("the eternal king") and, like Anu, he is "consistently depicted as old, just, compassionate, and patriarchal". In the same way that Anu was thought to wield the Tablet of Destinies, Canaanite texts mentions decrees issued by El that he alone may alter. In late antiquity, writers such as Philo of Byblos attempted to impose the dynastic succession framework of the Hittite and Hesiodic stories onto Canaanite mythology, but these efforts are forced and contradict what most Canaanites seem to have actually believed. Most Canaanites seem to have regarded El and Baal as ruling concurrently:

El is king, Baal becomes king. Both are kings over other gods, but El's kingship is timeless and unchanging. Baal must acquire his kingship, affirm it through the building of his temple, and defend it against adversaries; even so he loses it, and must be enthroned anew. El's kingship is static, Baal's is dynamic.”

>> I love to red good paragraphs which provide loads of info like this one. Here dear reader, they are talking about the King of kings and the Crown Prince. The King of kings is the eternal King, He is old, compassionate and patriarchal. See how you can detect they are talking about the King of kings and not the Evil One = the wannabe king.

When the Canaanites use the words El, here, they mean the Great King, the Great God. Amazing how this concept was preserved despite the late date. Sometimes, the Tablets of Destinies sound like the MES we read about when taking a look at Inanna. It’s unclear what these are for certain, so they might be one and the same object or they might be 2 different things. Also anons, gotta remember that it was the Anzu Bird which stole = took the Tablets of Destinies from the Evil Clan and hid them somewhere on a mountain. Since the ThunderBirds had the Jet suit armor to fly with, this mean they could have hidden the Tables of Destinies on any mountain on this planet = since they could fly there in a short amount of time. From the sound of it, the Tables of Destinies are with the warriors of the Light, not the Horned Serpents.

See how “thinkers” from LATE ANTIQUITY wanted to twist things to make it go their way and give their take, their explanation on things? They didn’t follow the truth as it was in the Native culture, but decided to twist things to make it correspond, make it fit their own sets of beliefs and ideology.

The most important sentence in this paragraph is that the Canaanites used to believe that El = God, and Baal = Lord, used to rule concurrently = as in they used to rule at the same time. This is absolutely spot on. Let me explain a bit here:

First thing to do is to understand what El and Baal are pointing to; or should I say whom they are pointing to. Here, it’s obvious; El the King of king and Baal is the Crown Prince – depending on the context of the text.

When we read the Epic of Gilgamesh, it was said that the Anzu Bird left the Tree with its young. And we know from the Native American ThunderBirds that they used to dwell in the floating mountain. The Griffin is also made of half a Lion and half an Eagle; and we know the Griffins are the symbolic representation of the Royal Guards of Atlantis.

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a376ff  No.14699144

>>14699120

(Please read from the start)

Throughout all the information we’ve encountered so far, we’ve got a story where the King of kings was murdered by another Sebetti ruler, most probably his son; in order to take the throne of Heaven. But a battle took place and something exploded. The Evil One was killed. Everything is pointing, converging that the Feline warriors were the warriors of the Great King; while the ThunderBirds were the warriors of the Crown Prince. And a lot is pointing out that both groups of warriors were present in the “Tree” as in it was their resident = place they were at. It’s making me think that the Crown Prince’s “home” = where he lived was also the Royal Palace of the Great King. This explains why the guards of the Royal Palace were composed of the Feline warriors and the ThunderBirds.

We also know that the Great King had a RIGHT HAND MAN = a person whom helped him rule and administer the kingdom. It was not the Serpent Sebetti ruler = the Evil One, because this one was known as the left hand man. So the closest one to the Great King was the Crown Prince, which means he was the RIGHT HAND man of the King of kings. It’s logical to have the next heir in line help His Father to administer and rule the kingdom. It’s like a training period for the youngster, or a period to learn how to govern. And this is how El and Baal were ruling in the same time. It means the King of kings was assisted by the Crown Prince in administrating and ruling, managing the kingdom of Atlantis.

It fits perfectly with what is clearly said in the Epic of Gilgamesh as the Crown Prince was YOUNG. The young the Anzu bird flew away with was the Crown Prince. They had to evacuate him to save his life. And everything we know fits perfectly with what we know from Isis fleeing the wrath of Seth with BABY Horus. Baby Horus resonates perfectly with the Young of the Anzu Bird = both are pointing that the Sebetti ruler of the Thunderbirds was still a child or very young. This is the Crown Prince we are talking about here. It’s the legitimate heir to the throne of Heaven whom is born SPECIAL among the special = he had the Light in him, just like His Father has it before him.

This is why the Canaanites said that “El is king, Baal becomes king”: it’s pointing that the Canaanite God = the Great King, is the King of the Universe and Baal = his son = the Crown Prince, is the next in line to throne of Heaven, will become one day a King of Heaven, in His Father’s place when the time comes. It fully explains why BOTH = Father and son are Kings over the other gods = the rest of the Sebetti rulers, their vassals and their warriors. This is all correct.

The King of kings is already King and He lives for an extremely long time, this is why His kingship is timeless and already acquired. But the Crown Prince is still young, in a learning stage: he must learn how to rule, that’s why he must acquire HIS kingship. He’s got to affirm it through learning how to rule his own Clan = TEMPLE; as in the Clan of the ThunderBirds, which can also be explain as in he must learn to rule his own domain of ThunderBirds, his own ThunderBird Kingdom/Clan.

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71f05b  No.14705599

>>14699144

(Please read from the start)

He must defend it against his adversaries = the Evil Couple and their clan. And he loses it, which is correct = everything was blown up with that blast which triggered the Cataclysm. It destroyed the entire kingdom of Atlantis. Since there is a struggle over the throne of Heaven, after the death of the King of kings, that throne was left empty. The ones whom win the war will be the ones whom will sit on that throne. This is why Baal must be enthroned anew = he must regain his rightful place as the King of kings and sit on the throne of Heaven. The rightful heir of that throne is the Crown Prince whom is called Baal = the Lord, in this Canaanite’s text.

I want anon to think very well about what you THINK you MAY know about the Canaanites and what is the TRUTH about the Canaanites. They are so damned close to the truth in this text, aren’t they? Are they all good? No….because we know that many waves of caravans and migrations from Mesopotamia and Taurus mountains, brought in = infiltrated many enclaves from the Evil Clan. (((They))) slowly got in along the centuries and (((they))) changed things from within, slowly, gradually, (((their))) cult got in. This doesn’t mean the Canaanites turned evil, nope, it only means we are not looking at a uniform picture but at a huge mosaic where good and evil were living side by side; and in some cases, there was a merger by the younger generations and things got mixed up. Despite the influence and infiltration of the Evil Clan in the Land of Canaan and then Phoenicia, the people of these regions, didn’t totally forget their origins, nor the truth about their past. We can still see parts of it, like it’s the case with this specific passage from the Canaanites.

I would like to ask anons to go back to page 703 and re-read about the Great Spirit from the Native American legends. He is the Supreme Being and He communicates with us, through specific individuals whom play the role of bridge between us and Him. But to be a “bridge” you gotta have a very specific genetic code = as being of a very specific lineage. Every human, every plant and ever animal = every living thing, contains a part of the Holy Spirit which comes from our Heavenly Father.

Then please keep on reading Le Grand Manitou, starting page 707. In the Algonquian language, the word mantóac, means "gods" (plural) = this is referring to the Sebetti rulers, their vassals and their warriors. We have the same situation with the Native Americans as we do in Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, in Syria and in Phoenicia = even the warriors were considered as deities because they possessed super human abilities.

The medicine men in the Algonquian religion had some of the Sebetti rulers abilities we’ve already talked about in this thread: like the ability to see the future (Neith), change the weather (ThunderBirds) and heal illness (Spiritual Healers, like the King of kings and the fish men).

It’s amazing how the Native Americans are so close to the truth. See how the digging tunnels connect?

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71f05b  No.14705643

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>>14705599

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I think we covered well the King of kings and the Evil One, and I hope I helped anons see through the entangled truth and managed to distinguish between the 2 when you read from now on. We’ve covered so far 5 Sebetti ruler out of 7. When you want to research and go to look for the Sebettis, you won’t find them at all. It’s like you are chasing a ghost, either online or in the archive. And if you start your research voyage via the Bible, then you will hit a dead end many times. For a researcher to find any clues about the Sebettis, he gotta take the high altitude; like checking out the administrative records of Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt = it’s the most painful thing to go through ever and it needs extreme patience. Even then, you won’t find the information handed to you on a silver platter: what you will find are patterns, this is why you gotta be meticulous and patient in your work and take the high altitude in order to see that pattern on a large scale.

As an example, let me show you something: if you google Sebetti, you won’t find anything concrete to work on. There is almost NO written direct information about them; as if no researcher or institution ever got interested in a study about them, so they never wrote about them, for many centuries. Strange isn’t it? The only written document we have on our hands about the Sebetti is the Epic of Erra.

During the Assyrian times the Sebetti were associated to the Pleiades: https://pleiades.stoa.org/places/508774534

And this is the information you find directly about the Sebetti rulers = A Sebetti temple dating back to the Assyrian era next to Dur Sharrukin citadel – as seen on picture 2 with this page. A bit of more reading for anons to understand what I’m point to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dur-Sharrukin

But… if you google: List of Mesopotamian deities, you will land on this interesting Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mesopotamian_deities

“Deities in ancient Mesopotamia were almost exclusively anthropomorphic. They were thought to possess extraordinary powers and were often envisioned as being of tremendous physical size. The deities typically wore melam, an ambiguous substance which "covered them in terrifying splendor" and which could also be worn by heroes, kings, giants, and even demons. The effect that seeing a deity's melam has on a human is described as ni, a word for the "physical creeping of the flesh". Both the Sumerian and Akkadian languages contain many words to express the sensation of ni, including the word puluhtu, meaning "fear". Deities were almost always depicted wearing horned caps, consisting of up to seven superimposed pairs of ox-horns. They were also sometimes depicted wearing clothes with elaborate decorative gold and silver ornaments sewn into them.”

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71f05b  No.14705676

>>14705643

(Please read from the start)

>> The Notables:

1 – Mesopotamian deities were human like for most of them.

2 – Mesopotamian deities “were thought to have extraordinary powers”: stop there anons and think about it deeply. Then ask yourselves: what are those extraordinary powers? Then do these extraordinary powers MATCH with other deities from other parts of the world?

3 – Mesopotamian deities “were often envisioned as being of tremendous physical size”. What does “envisioned” mean here? Does this mean they were “imagined” to be this way? Or is this how the Main Stream History “interprets” the Ancient texts and knowledge? What is this talk about a “tremendous physical size”? Does it mean they were huge? Like Giants maybe? But wait! It’s never said they were giant only that there size was BIG…BIG compared to OURS, in other words they were bigger than us = regular humans, when it came to size. Re-read carefully anons. Should I remind anons of Viracocha/Staff-God?

4 – What this ambiguous and mysterious substance covering the gods could be? And it covers them in terrifying splendor on top of it all. I can find 2 possible explanations to what this is about and both are equally correct:

A – This is the Holy Spiritual Power that comes out of the Sebetti rulers like Light floating around them. It comes out of their skin and mostly from the level of their heads. Their skin simply shines. It is a splendor to the eye and in the same time, it’s terrifying with its power.

B – They are talking either about the Aegis or the armor worn by the Sebetti rulers and their warriors, which were terrifying and in the same time they were equipped with incredibly powerful weapons.

5 – The Horned Cap or Crown has been one of the hardest thing to understand or explain. I don’t believe anyone has managed to crack this riddle yet. I’ve talked about it a bit on page 1 034. As talked about before, the start = origin of this horned crown can be with the theft of the technology from the other horned Sebetti clans and this tech was added/merged with the one of the Evil Clan. This means we should have 3 horns stacked one on top of the other. But strangely, sometimes we see 5 or even 7 horns. So is the number of horns due to mutation and misunderstanding from the younger generation? Did the younger generation believe that wearing the horned crown represents the HIGH status of a person? Did they forget the original meaning of the horned crown? And from there on, did the number of horns show the importance and the rank of the person? As in more horns meant higher rank and status? As time goes by, we don’t see only deities wearing the horned crown, but we also see kings and military figures wearing it. So did the humans copy/imitate the Sebetti rulers and their warriors to show their higher status? It’s possible.

6 – As for the deities wearing elaborated clothing with gold and silver decorations; this reminds me greatly of how Ra’s body is described as being made of gold and silver.

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71f05b  No.14705688

>>14705676

(Please read from the start)

“The ancient Mesopotamians believed that their deities lived in Heaven, but that a god's statue was a physical embodiment of the god himself. As such, cult statues were given constant care and attention and a set of priests were assigned to tend to them. These priests would clothe the statues and place feasts before them so they could "eat". A deity's temple was believed to be that deity's literal place of residence. The gods had boats, full-sized barges which were normally stored inside their temples and were used to transport their cult statues along waterways during various religious festivals. The gods also had chariots, which were used for transporting their cult statues by land. Sometimes a deity's cult statue would be transported to the location of a battle so that the deity could watch the battle unfold. The major deities of the Mesopotamian pantheon were believed to participate in the "assembly of the gods",through which the gods made all of their decisions. This assembly was seen as a divine counterpart to the semi-democratic legislative system that existed during the Third Dynasty of Ur (c. 2112 BC – c. 2004 BC).”

>> The deities in Ancient Egypt were cared for in the same way described here. Their statues were also believed to be their physical embodiment on Earth. They also had their special chariots and barges as well. I always wondered why the boats were needed to parade the divinity and not simply use the chariots. I keep on wondering if this is not an echo of the Ark and the Flood.

“The Mesopotamian pantheon evolved greatly over the course of its history. In general, the history of Mesopotamian religion can be divided into four phases. During the first phase, starting in the fourth millennium BC, deities' domains mainly focused on basic needs for human survival. During the second phase, which occurred in the third millennium BC, the divine hierarchy became more structured and deified kings began to enter the pantheon. During the third phase, in the second millennium BC, the gods worshipped by an individual person and gods associated with the commoners became more prevalent. During the fourth and final phase, in the first millennium BC, the gods became closely associated with specific human empires and rulers. The names of over 3,000 Mesopotamian deities have been recovered from cuneiform texts. Many of these are from lengthy lists of deities compiled by ancient Mesopotamian scribes. The longest of these lists is a text entitled An = Anum, a Babylonian scholarly work listing the names of over 2,000 deities. While sometimes mistakenly regarded simply as a list of Sumerian gods with their Akkadian equivalents, it was meant to provide information about the relations between individual gods, as well as short explanations of functions fulfilled by them. In addition of spouses and children of gods, it also listed their servants.”

>> I don’t call this evolution, I call it mutation. I’ve already explained about this mutation many times. I don’t think there are more than 2000 Mesopotamian deities out there. I think there are primary deities which were worshiped under their many aspects, like how it’s the case with the Evil Lady. And some of the Horned Serpent warriors whom were with her were also deified. Since they all belonged to the same Evil Clan, they had all similar characteristics and aspects.

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71f05b  No.14705701

>>14705688

(Please read from the start)

“Various terms were employed to describe groups of deities. The collective term Anunnaki is first attested during the reign of Gudea (c. 2144 – 2124 BC) and the Third Dynasty of Ur. This term usually referred to the major deities of heaven and earth, endowed with immense powers, who were believed to "decree the fates of mankind". Gudea described them as "Lamma (tutelary deities) of all the countries." While it is common in modern literature to assume that in some contexts the term was instead applied to chthonic Underworld deities, this view is regarded as unsubstantiated by assyriologist Dina Katz, who points out that it relies entirely on the myth of Inanna's Descent, which doesn't necessarily contradict the conventional definition of Anunnaki and doesn't explicitly identify them as gods of the Underworld. Unambiguous references to Anunnaki as cthtonic come from Hurrian (rather than Mesopotamian) sources, in which the term was applied to a class of distinct, Hurrian, gods instead. Anunnaki are chiefly mentioned in literary texts and very little evidence to support the existence of any distinct cult of them has yet been uneartheddue to the fact that each deity which could be regarded as a member of the Anunnaki had his or her own individual cult, separate from the others. Similarly, no representations of the Anunnaki as a distinct group have yet been discovered, although a few depictions of its frequent individual members have been identified. Another similar collective term for deities was Igigi, first attested from the Old Babylonian Period (c. 1830 BC – c. 1531 BC). The name Igigi seems to have originally been applied to the "great gods", but it later came to refer to all the gods of Heaven collectively. In some instances, the terms Anunnaki and Igigi are used synonymously.”

>> It’s clear here the younger generation didn’t understand what was really going on and interpreted things their way. As for the gods in plural, we are talking about the Sebetti rulers, their vassals = Sukkals and their warriors. This is why we have so many of them, dispersed worldwide.

“Major deities

Samuel Noah Kramer, writing in 1963, stated that the three most important deities in the Mesopotamian pantheon during all periods were the deities An, Enlil, and Enki. However, newer research shows that the arrangement of the top of the pantheon could vary depending on time period and location. The Fara god list indicates that sometimes Enlil, Inanna and Enki were regarded as the three most significant deities. Inanna was also the most important deity in Uruk and a number of other political centers in the Uruk period. Gudea regarded Ninhursag, rather than Enki, as the third most prominent deity. An Old Babylonian source preserves a tradition in which Nanna was the king of the gods, and Anu, Enlil and Enki merely his advisers, likely a view espoused by Nanna's priests in Ur, and later on in Harran. An Old Babylonian personal name refers to Shamash as "Enlil of the gods," possibly reflecting the existence of a similar belief connected to him among his clergy too, though unlike the doctrine of supremacy of the moon god, accepted by Nabonidus, it found no royal support at any point in time. In Zabban, a city in the northeast of Babylonia, Hadad was the head of the pantheon. In the first millennium BCE Marduk became the supreme god in Babylonia, and some late sources omit Anu and Enlil altogether and state that Ea received his position from Marduk. In some neo-Babylonian inscriptions Nabu's status was equal to that of Marduk. In Assyria, Assur was regarded as the supreme god.”

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71f05b  No.14705723

>>14705701

(Please read from the start)

>> This paragraph makes 2 points extremely clear:

1 – How the cult of Inanna kicked out and then replaced the cult of the King of kings. This indicates how the Evil Clan infiltrated slowly each Mesopotamian City-States and slowly took control. Then, they did the same thing in Syria and the rest of the Middle East, but couldn’t kick out the cult of the King of kings and the Crown Prince from there, so both cults kinda co-habited.

2 – The mutation from one generation to the younger one is in full display in front of you in this paragraph.

“The number seven was extremely important in ancient Mesopotamian cosmology. In Sumerian religion, the most powerful and important deities in the pantheon were sometimes called the "seven gods who decree": An, Enlil, Enki, Ninhursag, Nanna, Utu, and Inanna. Many major deities in Sumerian mythology were associated with specific celestial bodies: Inanna was believed to be the planet Venus, Utu was believed to be the Sun, and Nanna was the Moon. However, minor deities could be associated with planets too, for example Mars was sometimes called Simut, and Ninsianna was a Venus deity distinct from Inanna in at least some contexts.

[…]”

>> Oh my! I wonder why number 7 is EXTREMELY important in the oldest era in Mesopotamia. Hm! Anyone reading want to make a guess? ^_~ I’ve spent around 1 400 pages to explain all about the Sebetti rulers = the kings and queens of Atlantis. That should be enough for anons to understand why number 7 is so important. After this, in the Wikipedia page, there is a long nice list of several deities. I’m not going to even look at it. I have a lot to handle as it is. If anyone is interested, that’s up to you.

“Primordial beings

Various civilizations over the course of Mesopotamian history had many different creation stories. The earliest accounts of creation are simple narratives written in Sumerian dating to the late third millennium BC. These are mostly preserved as brief prologues to longer mythographic compositions dealing with other subjects, such as Inanna and the Huluppu Tree, The Creation of the Pickax, and Enki and Ninmah. Later accounts are far more elaborate, adding multiple generations of gods and primordial beings. The longest and most famous of these accounts is the Babylonian Enûma Eliš, or Epic of Creation, which is divided into seven tablets. The surviving version of the Enûma Eliš could not have been written any earlier than the late second millennium BC, but it draws heavily on earlier materials, including various works written during the Akkadian, Old Babylonian, and Kassite periods in the early second millennium BC. A category of primordial beings common in incantations were pairs of divine ancestors of Enlil and less commonly of Anu. In at least some cases these elaborate genealogies were assigned to major gods to avoid the implications of divine incest.”

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71f05b  No.14705766

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>>14705723

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“Figures appearing in theogonies were generally regarded as ancient and no longer active (unlike the regular gods) by the Mesopotamians.

[…]”

>> Not much is said in this paragraph, but it’s alright; because we know the vassals and the Sebetti warriors were deified as well, so we don’t know each deity belongs to which category, apart the Sebetti rulers.

Unlike Ancient Egypt, in Mesopotamia, they were careful of “implying there is divine incest”. If you search for it, you won’t find any indication incest was practiced in Mesopotamia, at least not in the early stages. I tried to look for it, but found none. But this is not the case in Ancient Egypt, where it was heavily practiced during dynastic times; I think by then the Evil Cult had already entered Ancient Egypt and the Royal family.

It’s incredibly hard to find any direct information or artifacts when the Sebetti rulers are concerned. You gotta dig around to find anything on them. But…strangely, we do have a projection of them in Hollywood and this is where I’m going next with 3 movies in a row:

The first movie is called Gods of Egypt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods_of_Egypt_(film)

Before we take a look at this movie, I want to draw anons attention to 2 misleading facts about this movie.

First one is actually the style of the decoration, the furniture, the buildings, architecture, the clothing etc. What you see is from DYNASTIC ERA STYLE and not from pre-dynastic times. They certainly didn’t dress this way in pre-dynastic times, including the headsets. And the decoration (including the carvings) weren’t like this at all. Just check it out yourselves online and compare.

Second one is actually the flow of the story and how Seth murders his brother and how everyone reacts and behaves. Just go back and re-read everything about the murder of Osiris by Seth. Here what they did, is take bits and pieces from here and there, cut them and glue them together to make a storyline for the movie.

The reason why I’m showing you this movie despite these huge inaccuracies is because of some details in it, which are pointing to some of the stuff I’ve been talking about. You already know by now how the Bloodlines and the followers of the cult like to rub it in our faces while mixing truth with their distorted fantasy.

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71f05b  No.14705778

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>>14705766

(Please read from the start)

“Gods of Egypt is a 2016 fantasy action film directed by Alex Proyas based on the ancient Egyptian deities. It stars Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Brenton Thwaites, Chadwick Boseman, Élodie Yung, Courtney Eaton, Rufus Sewell, Gerard Butler, and Geoffrey Rush. The film portrays the Egyptian god Horus who partners with a mortal Egyptian thief, on a quest to rescue his love, to save the world from Set.

Filming took place in Australia under the film production and distribution company Summit Entertainment in conjunction with Thunder Road Pictures and Proyas' production company Mystery Clock Cinema. While the film's production budget was $140 million, the parent company Lionsgate's financial exposure was less than $10 million due to tax incentives and pre-sales. The Australian government provided a tax credit for 46% of the film's budget. When Lionsgate began promoting the film in November 2015, it received backlash for its predominantly white cast playing Egyptian deities. In response, Lionsgate and director Proyas apologized for ethnically inaccurate casting.

Lionsgate released Gods of Egypt in theaters globally, starting on February 25, 2016, in 2D, RealD 3D, and IMAX 3D, and in the United States, Canada, and 68 other markets on February 26. It grossed a total of $150 million against a $140 million budget, becoming a box office bomb and losing the studio up to $90 million. It received five nominations at the 37th Golden Raspberry Awards.

Plot

In an alternative ancient Egypt where the gods live among the mortals, King Osiris is killed by his jealous brother Set during the coronation of Osiris's son Horus. Set seizes the throne and declares that mankind must pay riches to pass into the afterlife. Stripped of his eyes, Horus is exiled as Egypt is driven to its knees.”

>> At least they admitted here it’s an “alternative” Ancient Egypt. They also tell us that in this alternative Ancient Egypt the gods used to live alongside humans. A piece of information that we have come upon in this thread with the Staff-god living among humans in the Andean region, with Neith living among humans in Ancient Egypt and with the Evil Lady living among humans in the Taurus at first, then in Mesopotamia. Strange, but this information from the movie fits with what we found in this thread.

The killing of Osiris scene, I’m not going to comment on it, I’m going to ask anons to go back and read about it. Here what we see in the movie, doesn’t fit the written/the story given to us by ancient sources about the killing of Osiris.

But strangely, it fits more or less, with what I’ve gathered from Mesopotamia when taking a look at the Evil Lady, the Evil One and the King of kings. Watch the clip I’ve attached with this page very carefully, notice the details, the silent story being told.

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71f05b  No.14705810

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>>14705778

(Please read from the start)

Notables from the video:

1 – There is a banquet/ a celebration. It seems to be held at the Royal Palace or at the gates of the Palace where the citizens = normal people could also attend it and watch – it’s like some sort of big arena. This celebration is about the coronation of Horus by Osiris. Did I mention something about a banquet before in this thread? But here, it’s shared with the public, not private as I think it was. And it’s done in daylight, while the information we’ve got is that this banquet was held at night.

2 – The fact that Horus is coroneted by Osiris, while Osiris is still wearing the CROWN = still king… it seems we have more than one king and there are kings of different levels. Then Seth comes along and talks to Horus, the words he says imply that Horus has finished his “training/ learning” time as an apprentice and now he gets to rule. This implies that Horus was still young and considered as an apprentice, sort of speak, and now he is “graduating” = coming of age = becoming an adult king with the responsibility to rule his own fief. Seth says “at least someone will make a fine king”: this has many layers of meanings, including there is more than one king at a time and that Seth considers Osiris as a “bad” king.

3 – The front of the Crown worn by Osiris in the movie looks like it has a Sun disk on it = a circle with what seems like Sun rays coming out of it. Reminds us of the artifacts on page 1 366 and on page 518. Don’t misunderstand me here anons, I’m not saying they are identical. I’m saying the concept = the idea behind all 3 objects is the same = rays of light coming out from the head. It’s presented to us in 3 different ways. This type of crown design is never seen before in Ancient Egypt when you compare it with the other headdresses we’ve got. So I’m scratching my head, wondering: where this design came from and why was it inserted in this movie? Why didn’t they use a standard dynastic headdress for the movie like what they did for the rest of the clothing and furniture and other details?

4 – At the beginning of this clip, Seth is walking towards what seems to be an elevated platform where the coronation ceremony is taking place. He is closely followed by another person whom is wearing some sort of hat and that person is holding a box. From the looks of it, this person seem to be some sort of assistant or a servant…maybe a helper…in that idea. This reminds me of Sukkal we saw with the Mesopotamian deities. We shouldn’t surprise to see the same or similar individuals in Ancient Egypt, carrying similar or identical tasks as the Sukkals in Mesopotamia. It’s only natural for nobles and/or kings to have aides and servants. Then this person presents the box he is carrying to Horus = he is presenting Seth’s gift to Horus. This action, his gestures and his attitude shows he is some type of servant, or assistant whom serves Seth.

Also, when you look at the background where all the nobles = higher ups are standing, around Osiris and Seth (while these are greeting one another), we can see by their clothes there is a mixture of nobles (wearing elaborated and luxurious clothing) and their aides, servants (simple clothing without luxurious items, like gems attached to them). This indicates the ranks of all of these persons in the backgrounds and it shows that the nobles attended this ceremony with their aids, servants, vassals etc.

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71f05b  No.14705830

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>>14705810

(Please read from the start)

5 – When Seth and his assistant were walking past among the crowd = the citizens, did anyone notice their HEIGHT? It’s as if both of them are almost twice the height = size of a normal human. The normal people head reach the level of Seth’s waistline as he is passing through them. It’s not just the deities whom are that size. Look at their assistants in the background behind Osisris = actually, everyone standing on that elevated platform is big in size = this includes both, the Nobles and their assistant/their servants.

6– Seth makes a remark to Horus that it takes one hour to pass through his admirers = pass through the crowd. This is indirectly pointing to the popularity of the Crown Prince, in this movie = Horus. He was loved by his people. We know this to be the case for the King of kings as well = he was loved by his people.

7 – Seth gives Horus a blowing horn as a coronation gift, telling him it’s from a RAM. Blowing the horn during war time, to send signals during battle, like the start of a battle is incredibly old tradition. It’s not uncommon practice. Being a ram horn reminds me of the Shofar used by the Jews for religious purposes.

8 – The army of Seth enters the scene and they are all wearing a red armor. They are of the same height as the normal citizens in this movie. They surround the area and build like a barrage between the people and the platform where all the nobles are = as if they were isolating that platform.

9 – Look at that baton handed by Seth to Osiris. Look how it’s activated by touch and will. And look how it opens to turn into a spear or staff weapon.

10 – Seth says: “in a thousand years of peace, what have you accomplished?” So does this mean the reign of the Great King only lasted a thousand years? How do they know such details in Hollywood? Why is it a thousand and not 2 or 10?

11 – Look how Osiris replies and behaved: he tells Seth he won’t fight him and that he loves him with all of his heart. Then he plants the staff weapon in the ground and rushes to hug Seth. But Seth was traitorous and he stabs Osiris (in the movie) with a dagger in the exact same way (using a dagger) as I told anons the Evil One stabbed the Great King using of the artifact on page 1 366. And look where he is stabbing him. The only difference with that artifact is that in the movie Osiris’ hands were not bound behind his back; he was not tied up. But in the movie, they show us it was an unexpected move = as in Osiris and the other nobles didn’t expect this to happen. Which is correct. The horrified expression of everyone confirms it.

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71f05b  No.14705860

File: 6cdfd2a890e8806⋯.jpg (248.41 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, nephthys_2016_01.jpg)

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>>14705830

(Please read from the start)

12 – Notice the wound = the stabbing place on Osiris body: Light comes out of it. But this light is different from the Light we’ve seen, witnessed. This is yellowish light, like the one of the Sun. The Light we saw was pure white.

13 – Seth proclaims himself king and says to the people: “mortals worship me…”. He called them mortals, does this mean the deities are immortal, or almost immortal. As in they have a very long life spam, different than what we the people have.

14 – A duel for the right to the throne takes place between Seth and Horus. During this duel, Seth uses the Was staff and Horus uses the Staff-weapon/Sharur.What is amazing is actually Nephthys and how she reacts. Out of nowhere, her wings come out and she uses them as a shield, as well as her own body to protect the body of both Isis and dead Osiris. Isis is also shielding the dead body of her husband. The behavior of both women echoes well with what we know about them guarding the dead body of Osiris. But the most incredible part is the wings of Nephthys. The colorful feathers seem organic, as in feathers like those of a bird. But the golden stuff and feathers we have on top, at the rim…they seem metallic to me. The agility and the flexibility of the wings are amazing; and look at their size compared to her = it’s proportioned; including the size of the feathers.

15 – We get a close up of Hathor’s headgear. Look at how the horns are shaped and displayed. Interesting, isn’t it?

16 – Then at some point in the duel, both Horus and Seth wear their combat armors. The transformation is amazing for both. Where did the armors come from? Both are clearly metallic. And it seems they are “called” by will = as in the armors come out = cover the body of the warriors when summoned or called by their will or their thoughts. But where did these armors come from? They are not installed in a backpack they are wearing on their backs. When you look closely it’s like molten lava on their skin at first, for a few seconds; before it turns into solid metal = as if the metal was in fusion.

Seth’s armor is black, not red. He has no wings. It’s clear he is part of the land troops.

Horus’ armor is gold and the wings come out as flexible as the ones we saw Nephthys had just a tad before. But his wings are not organic here, but are made of metal, sharp as blades. Their agility is incredible. Look at his movements during combat and how swift he is; doesn’t it remind you of the Bald Eagle hunting?

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71f05b  No.14705885

File: b4c642089c93c0c⋯.jpg (24.14 KB, 496x310, 8:5, horus_nikolaj_coster_walda….jpg)

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>>14705860

(Please read from the start)

I believe this is how the battles used to be between the ThunderBirds and the Horned Serpents. Watch it over and over again and notice how the jet suits is used and how flexible it is. Look how he uses his talons. It’s amazing.

I’m going to attach to this page and the next one, pictures from different angles of Horus’ armor. If I’m not mistaking, these are from the concept art for the movie. Look at details. The wings can spread wide open and fold, retreat to the back. The helmet is amazing; it’s shaped like the head of an eagle. But notice it’s covered, it’s not open as what we saw Wonder Woman 1984 – page 804. Both body armors are similar, almost identical, even same color. But the helmets are different.

I believe the helmet we see in this movie – not the one Wonder Woman wears – is the correct helmet of the ThunderBirds. I said back then that the helmet needs to cover the face because when you fly you have wind, rain and other things smash in your face, so the jet suit armor user needs to shelter his face while flying, mostly if he is flying at supersonic speed, like we know they do. The helmet is very close to what the guards of Ra wear in the movie Stargate – page 205.

Another tiny difference between Horus armor from this movie and the one Wonder Woman 1984 wears is the size of the wings. But I guess this due = proportionate to the size of the person wearing the armor, right?

When I saw how Horus and Seth wore their armors, another movie came to my mind: Avengers Infinity Wars. In it, we see Iron man wear his armor while about to face the villains. When we look how his armor kinda crawls on him and proctects his body, it’s the same idea we have with both Horus and Seth armor. Sure… Iron man’s armor is made of nanotechnology and in this movie I don’t know what it is made of; so they are not identical, but the idea behind them is similar = the concept is similar – pictures in next page.

17 – In this video, the soldiers of Seth use the shields they are holding as mirrors and try to blind Horus with it, momentarily during combat. This reminds me of 2 things:

A – The Evil One’s blasters on his armor which I said they might have been used as stun grenade – mentioned on page 1 156 – to momentarily blind the opponent.

B – I don’t recall which passage it is…but there was this military confrontation mentioned in the Bible where the Jews used their shields as mirrors to reflect the sunlight and used it to momentarily blind their enemies.

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71f05b  No.14705915

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>>14705885

(Please read from the start)

18 – Using the shield to blind momentarily blind Horus was a dirty trick from Seth. And how he stabbed Osiris can also be considered as a dirty move. Both project how he plays = he plays low and dirty. He doesn’t fight face to face, with honor and dignity. When he is at a disadvantage, he uses every trick he can to win in combat. In the same time, he doesn’t hesitate to betray and then kill his brother. I believe this project the personality of the Evil One and how he uses dirty tricks to win, instead of having a fair fight.

Let’s continue with the Plot Story:

“One year later, a thief named Bek is given the plans for Set's pyramid by his lover Zaya, a slave to chief architect Urshu. Bek steals one of Horus' eyes from Set’s treasure vault, but is caught by Urshu. Zaya is killed, and Bek takes her body to Horus and gives him the eye, promising to find the other if he brings Zaya back from the dead.”

>> I’m adding a picture of when Horus and Bek meet and make the deal. Look at the difference in size between a normal human and Horus. Now I want to ask anons to go back to the summary I put for the Andean region and take a look at the section concerning the Giants. Then, I want you to think about something: if the people were the size of how we see the gods in this movie, can they lift the megalithic stones we’ve seen at Cusco and other sites? Remember the doors and the steps? Remember what I said about them, my comments? Now put next to them a human the size of Horus and compare, the doors and the steps; are they proportioned? See what I mean?

“They visit the divine vessel of Horus' grandfather Ra. Neutral about the conflict with Set, and at war with the shadow beast Apophis that threatens to devour the world, Ra does not restore Horus’ power, but allows him to take a vial of divine waters to weaken Set. Ra explains that Horus’ loss of his powers is the result of not fulfilling his destiny, which Horus believes means avenging his parents' deaths.”

>> Here, Horus is projecting the idea that the Crown Prince has lost the throne of Heaven due to a coup, a military coup by a member of his family. And Ra tells him that if he wants to regain his powers = throne, then he must fulfil his destiny as in avenge the death of his father (we don’t see the death of Isis in the movie) and sit on the throne as king.

“Set asks Hathor to take him to the underworld, but she refuses and escapes. After an attack by Minotaurs led by Mnevis, followed by other minions and giant cobras, Hathor rescues Horus and Bek. Horus is mistrustful of Hathor, who claims Set is also her enemy. Bek and Horus explain their plan to infiltrate Set's pyramid, and Hathor warns of a guardian sphinx. They visit the library of Thoth to recruit the god to solve the sphinx’s riddle. Overcoming the pyramid's entryway and the sphinx's riddle (the answer being "tomorrow"). Finally they each the source of Set's power. Before they can use the divine water, Set traps them, destroying the divine water and taking Thoth's brain, but Horus saves Hathor and Bek. Sacrificing her own safety, Hathor gives Bek her bracelet as payment (for Zaya) for the afterlife and calls Anubis to take him to Zaya, letting herself be dragged to the underworld.”

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71f05b  No.14706986

File: 2fd9fd4d9408aeb⋯.jpg (158.29 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Hathor_fights_giant_snakes.jpg)

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>>14705915

(Please read from the start)

>> Let’s take a look at the scenes a bit of this section of the movie. I’m going to put them randomly.

1 – We see 2 sides of Hathor in this movie, 2 aspects of her:

A – The Honorable, honest deity, all ladylike and respectful.

B– We see a fierce side to her when she takes down one of these giant serpents which come after Horus and Bek.

Both aspects of her remind me of Neith.

2 – There are 2 warriors ridding giant snakes which come in black and white color. Look at closely at these 2 ridders:

A – One is wearing a black armor and has horns on her helmet.

B – The second one is wearing a white/silver armor and her helmet is shaped like the head of a snake. In case the viewer of this movie didn’t understand that she is wearing a Serpent armor, they gave her a Serpent’s tongue, to make sure the viewer understand we are dealing with a snake here.

If I combine the armors of both black and white warriors from the movie, I will get the Horned Serpent armor. Incredible coincidence, isn’t it anons?

These warriors ride the giant Serpent sitting on what looks like a chair attached to a driving console. I know this is farfetched from my part, but darn it, I cannot help but remember the iconography of Nergal and the other Horned Serpent warriors sitting in that supposed chariot of theirs with those cylinders/tubes like strange machinery in front of them – pictures in pages 694 & 805.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this is it; I’m not saying what we have in the movie and the artifacts is identical = same object. I’m saying that when you look at the artifact I just mentioned from page 694 and 805 you will see a Horned Serpent warrior sitting on a chair some type of steering machine in front of him. We don’t know what these Horned Serpent warriors are steering with those machines since the artifacts are fragmentary.

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71f05b  No.14707012

File: 0e2df0e53f22db1⋯.png (1.13 MB, 1120x540, 56:27, Speeder_bike_SWCT.png)

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>>14706986

(Please read from the start)

Here, in this movie, we see warriors hinting to the Horned Serpents using machines – sitting in the same stance – to ride these giants Serpents. The idea behind both is the same = the sitting/ridding done by the Horned Serpent. But as I just said above, we have no idea at all what these Horned Serpent warriors in the artifacts might be ridding. If someone tells me these giant serpents really did exist back in the days and were domesticated by the Horned Serpent, I would faint out of shock. No…I don’t think this is it. I think what they might be ridding is something close to a machine than an animal. Like some type of individual = one person, sort of machine.

There is some stuff used like that in the Star Wars series.

“Absorbing Thoth's brain, Osiris's heart, Horus's other eye, and wings from Nephthys, Set confronts Ra about his mistreatments, which Ra explains were tests to prepare Set for his true role: taking Ra's place aboard his solar barge as defender of the world against Apophis. Dismayed, Set decides to destroy the afterlife to become immortal. Ra blasts him with his spear, but Set survives through his absorbed powers. He stabs Ra, taking his spear and casting him off the barge, freeing Apophis to consume the mortal and underworld realms.”

>> Seth steals the most notable, important, powerful tools and weapons of the other deities. Isn’t this what the coup plotters did back then? How many times I repeated that the coup plotters stole military tech from the other clan armors and merged them to their own armor? This is it; this is what is projected in this section of the movie.

Each object stolen by Seth can be considered as the powerful tool/point the other gods had:

Thoth’s brain = intelligence, is considered his advantage, his strong point, his strength.

Osiris’ heart = love, care and compassion, nowadays a lot of people consider this as a disadvantage, but the truth is, this the source of the Holy Spirit. The more you care, the more your spiritual power gets stronger.

Nephthys’ wing = FLIGHT = air combat. We’ve already seen the flexibility and the agility of the wings used by Horus in the previous combat scene. Being airborne gives an incredible advantage during combat, mostly if you know how to make full use of it, like Horus did. The one thing I don’t agree on with her wings is their color. They look like those of a hummingbird all colorful, nice, pretty and shiny. They should be those of a Bird of Prey, like what we see Eagles and Falcons have, she is a ThunderBird after all. I think the reason for such lovely esthetics in this movie when it comes to Nephthys wings is because she is a woman and they are giving her beautiful and colorful wings to give her a gentler look, instead of that of a warrior.

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71f05b  No.14707054

File: 089683e91975d4a⋯.jpg (43.08 KB, 640x270, 64:27, ra2.jpg)

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>>14707012

(Please read from the start)

When Seth plucks out Nephthys wings in this scene, he throws it on the floor. The organic, natural wings, suddenly become stiff when it’s detached from Nephthys body and it turns into a plaque of metal. It’s fascinating. I’m puzzled by this as well. Are the wings organic = biological things, or are they mechanic = machinery? Maybe a mixture of both? I don’t know, but I’m very curious about it.

When Seth combines the wings to his armor, you can see they are not agile and organic = looking like real feathers, as how they were when Nephthys has them. With Seth, they look stiff as if they are some type of metallic plaque on his back and there is no life in them.

Horus’ eye = I don’t understand what is so interesting in Horus’ eye. In the movie, they gives us shots from his sight = eye view of Horus in the first combat scene with Seth. It’s like a lens and it can focus, zoom in, pin point etc. On page 900, I meantioned Superman laser eyes and X-men’s Cyclops having the same ability of firing something from their eyes = of course the ones on the helmet of the ThunderBirds. So I’m wondering if in this movie the film makers are not hinting that the eyes of the ThunderBirds had some type of special ability or special power attached to them.

Then Seth accuses Ra of mistreating him. Ra explains the hardship Seth had lived was tests so that one day he can take Ra’s place as the defender of the world. I wonder if this is not a projection to what happened back then between the King of kings and the Evil One. As in he was being tested by the Great King to see if he has the Light and if he is fit to rule over all one day. But the Evil One didn’t make it because his Light was not strong enough.

Seth’s ambition is to become immortal. Isn’t that what current day Bloodlines also want? (((They))) imitate a lot (((their))) founding ancestors don’t (((they)))? Ra also uses a spear/staff weapon which emits blasts. Take a good look at Ra: here, they are showing his power in the shape of flames = since he is the Sun, coming out of his entire body. Imagine the same thing, but being made of white Light, not flames. This is what comes out of the King of kings. I’m just saying it’s similar.

So Seth kills Ra, also using a dagger to stab him = same method used to kill Osiris. Despite Ra’s blast, Seth isn’t killed because of the stolen items from the other gods = this reminds me greatly of the stolen tech from the other clans which was then merged to the Horned Serpents armors. Then Seth takes Ra’s strength point = his spear and in the same time he frees Apophis whom will ravage the world. I think here they mean Seth unleashed a catastrophe = a cataclysm on humans.

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71f05b  No.14707077

File: 0f11822e1d054ad⋯.jpg (897.31 KB, 1920x2688, 5:7, jared_krichevsky_asc_Seth_….jpg)

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>>14707054

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“Zaya refuses Hathor's gift, not wanting an afterlife without Bek. Apophis attacks, and the gate to the afterlife is closed. Bek returns to the mortal world, determined to stop Set and encouraging Horus that Zaya still had faith in him.”

>> You think the “GATE of the afterlife” in this movie is the portal? Is this what was closed after the Cataclysm? Or because of it?

“Horus battles Set atop an obelisk, but is heavily outmatched. Bek throws Urshu to his death and joins the battle on the obelisk, removing Horus' stolen eye from Set's armor, but is mortally wounded. Sliding toward the edge of the obelisk, Bek throws the eye to Horus, who must choose either to catch it or to save Bek. Horus reaches for Bek, apologizing for all he has put him through. As they plummet toward the ground, Horus regains his power to transform, flying Bek to safety. Horus realizes that his true destiny was to protect his people. With renewed strength, Horus outmaneuvers and kills Set. Finding Ra wounded in the aether, Horus returns his spear, allowing Ra to repel Apophis, and Anubis to reopen the gates.”

>> In the end, Seth is killed.

“A child in the crowd returns Horus' other eye and the god lays a dying Bek in Osiris's tomb beside Zaya. For his deeds, Ra offers to bestow Horus with any power, but all Horus wants is to bring Bek and Zaya back to life. Ra grants his wish, and the other gods were restored, except Horus' parents who had already passed into the afterlife. Horus is crowned king and declares access to the afterlife will be paid with good deeds in life. Bek is made chief advisor and gives Horus Hathor's bracelet; Horus leaves to rescue her from the underworld.”

>> It’s true that you gotta PAY with good deeds and have a good heart to enter the afterlife. And the movie ends in chivalry = the mighty warrior goes to save his princess.

Another lame movie, but I’m surprised to see all of interesting details they put in it.

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0b5788  No.14710754

File: c95fc0479801c44⋯.jpg (399.26 KB, 1280x1024, 5:4, Jupiter_Ascending_movie_po….jpg)

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>>14707077

(Please read from the start)

The next movie is called Jupiter Ascending: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_Ascending

“Jupiter Ascending is a 2015 space opera filmwritten and directed by the Wachowskis. Starring Mila Kunis, Channing Tatum, Sean Bean, Eddie Redmayne, and Douglas Booth, the film is centered on Jupiter Jones (Kunis), an ordinary cleaning woman, and Caine Wise (Tatum), an interplanetary warrior who informs Jones that her destiny extends beyond Earth. Supporting cast member Douglas Booth has described the film's fictional universe as a cross between The Matrix and Star Wars, while Kunis identified indulgence and consumerism as its underlying themes.

[…]

Jupiter Ascending was released in the United States on February 6, 2015, by Warner Bros. Pictures. The film received mixed reviews from critics and was a box office flop.

“Plot

Earth and countless other planets were established by families of transhuman and alien royalty for the purpose of harvesting the resulting organisms to produce a youth serum for the elites on other planets. After the death of the matriarch of the House of Abrasax, the most powerful of the alien dynasties, her children, Balem, Kalique and Titus, quarrel over the inheritance, with Balem inheriting an enormous refinery on Jupiter and Titus spending his inheritance on a lavish spaceship. Jupiter Jones narrates that her father, Maximilian, met her mother Aleksa in Saint Petersburg, Russia. After Maximilian is killed in a robbery, Aleksa names their daughter Jupiter, after his favorite planet, and they move to Chicago to live with Aleksa's family.”

>> First sentence is a bomb on its own; in a positive way and in a bad way. The first thing it points to is the colonization and/ or habitation of many planets by people = we are not alone in the universe. These colonies were established by royalty whom were not totally human, but something close to humans, or partly human and partly something else. Here, they called them alien royalty, as in foreign royalty and not native of the planet.

To stay young and probably live an extremely long time, these royalties “harvest” living “organisms” = as in humans, to be used by them and other elites like them across the universe. I want to pause a bit here and say there is no way the King of kings has such goals, ideas and practices. The first section I just mentioned in earlier paragraph, I believe they are all true. And it is true that the royalty of the universe do live for a long time and they remain young looking to. But it’s untrue that they “harvest” human to extract the youth potion from them. This is exclusively the practice of the Evil Clan as in the Evil One and the Evil Lady, along with their people. This is what we call Adrenochrome = the fountain of youth of the Bloodlines.

The second sentence informs us that there are MANY Royal families in the universe and house Abrasax is the most powerful one of them….and it had a matriarch = a female head. Incredible projection this movie is sending. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence. It lines up with my finds through archaeological artifacts analysis and extracting information from them.

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0b5788  No.14710765

File: d1a94af7f264b92⋯.jpg (592.14 KB, 1920x1024, 15:8, jupiter_ascending_crop_cir….jpg)

File: 603bffb7f4b569b⋯.png (936.66 KB, 1080x607, 1080:607, Kalique1.png)

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>>14710754

(Please read from the start)

“Years later, Jupiter makes a modest living as a housekeeper to her wealthy neighbors. Wanting to buy a telescope, Jupiter agrees to sell her egg cells, and uses her friend Katharine's name as a pseudonym. At Katharine's house, Jupiter and Katharine are attacked by extraterrestrial "Keepers". Jupiter photographs them, but they erase both of the girls' memories of the incident. Jupiter finds the strange photograph on her phone while waiting at an egg donation clinic, but cannot recall anything about it. During the procedure, the doctors and nurses are revealed to be Keepers sent to kill her, but she is saved by Caine Wise, a former soldier sent by Titus to bring her to him. As Caine and Jupiter flee, their spaceship is destroyed by a squad of Keepers. Caine fends off the attack, kills the Keepers, and hijacks one of their vehicles while protecting Jupiter. Afterwards, Caine realizes that Jupiter must be of great significance to Titus and Balem, who are revealed to have sent the Keepers to Earth to capture her. Caine takes Jupiter to the hideout of Stinger Apini, another former soldier living in exile on Earth. When Jupiter learns that she can control the bees in Stinger's residence, she discovers that she is galactic royalty.”

>> Selling her “eggs” is a projection of human trafficking, mostly children. As for Jupiter to control bees: I think this is pointing to her having a special ability = special powers, because of her Royal genes.

“Stinger agrees to help Jupiter. But she is captured by a group of hunters who are supposed to be working for Balem. They have been bribed by Kalique to bring Jupiter to her palace on a distant planet. There, Kalique explains that Jupiter is genetically identical to the dead matriarch, and therefore is the Earth's rightful owner. Supported by Captain Diomika Tsing of the intergalactic police force Aegis, Caine retrieves her from Kalique and takes her to the intergalactic capital planet Ores to claim her inheritance.”

>> The group of hunters sent to get Jupiter left those crop circle marks with their ship. Now that made me laugh: are (((they))) trying to tell/ explain how these crop circles are made?

The explanation given by Kalique is incredible for me. It’s obvious that the Royalty in the universe transmitted their genes = as in had children; but it never occurred to me this story of genetic sequence. I couldn’t find a video, but if anons can listen carefully to what Kalique says in this candle scene I’m putting pictures of, it would be great. She says that if the sequence of DNA repeats itself in the same exact combination/order = same exact way, then it is considered the same person reborn again, as in reincarnated. This is a very interesting idea they’ve got in this movie. I wonder if this is why the Bloodlines are so fond of (((their))) blood purity = are (((they))) trying to recreate the same exact sequel of DNA strand to reincarnate both the Evil One and the Evil Lady? So doesn’t this mean that your position in the universe is embedded inside your DNA?

When you look at the statue of the matriarch of the Abrasax royals, what gets your attention is her headdress. It looks like rays of sun/light coming out of her head, but it can also looks like horns from afar.

Then Kalique goes into a bath filled with opaque liquid, as if it’s white. She was old, then she turns younger = it’s the fountain of youth = Adrenochrome.

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0b5788  No.14710772

File: e8c05833c297706⋯.jpg (48.27 KB, 610x334, 305:167, jupiter_ascending_reptilia….jpg)

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>>14710765

(Please read from the start)

“In another attempt to lure Jupiter to him, Balem sends Greeghan to kidnap Jupiter's family. On the way back to Earth, Titus's henchmen capture Jupiter and detain Caine, as punishment for not bringing Jupiter to him as promised. Titus reveals to Caine his plan to marry Jupiter, kill her, and claim Earth. Titus then throws Caine into the void of space and attempts to seduce Jupiter, declaring his intention to dismantle the youth serum trade, of which Earth is the next intended source. Caine survives being spaced and returns with Stinger to save Jupiter at the altar before she gets married. Jupiter asks to return home, but learns that her family has been taken hostage by Balem.”

>> Greegham looks a lot like the depiction of the Serpent Sebetti on the bronze Plaque of the Hells, but here, he has wings. When Titus wants to marry Jupiter, doesn’t that make it he is marrying his mother? Isn’t this incest? He is marrying the woman with the same and exact genetic code sequence as his mother.

“At his refinery inside the Great Red Spot, Balem demands Earth in exchange for Jupiter's family. Realizing that Balem cannot "harvest" Earth without her permission, Jupiter refuses. Caine infiltrates the refinery and damages its gravity hull, causing the refinery to begin collapsing. While the occupants evacuate the refinery, Tsing's ship moves in and rescues Jupiter's family. Jupiter survives the collapsing structures, only to land at the feet of Balem, who tries to kill her. But Jupiter fights Balem off and spares him, but not before the structures collapse and Balem falls to his death. Just as Jupiter is about to suffer the same fate, Caine saves her as the refinery is in its final stages of collapse. Tsing opens a portal to Earth and prepares to evacuate, potentially leaving Caine and Jupiter behind. However, she is relieved to find that they have survived and crossed the portal, along with Tsing's ship. Jupiter's family is returned home with no memory of their disappearance, while Jupiter secretly retains ownership of the Earth. Caine's rank in the Legion is restored, and he and Jupiter begin a relationship.”

>> The Great Red Spot looks like a giant red eye. (((They))) are telling us of (((their))) harvest of Adrenochrome, using humans like cattle.

This movie is incredibly close to what we know about the Bloodlines with their addiction to Adrenochrome. And it’s also projecting what I’ve been showing anons through various archaeological artifacts = the story of an old kingdom.

There are a few additional details in this movie which deserve to get our attention on; like the space suit worn in this movie. Or the type of one man aircraft fighter like plane Cain and Apini use to get close to Titus’ ship.

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0b5788  No.14710791

File: cfe2cc5ff492a6a⋯.jpg (447.03 KB, 1020x1600, 51:80, Jupiter_Ascending_Shield.jpg)

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>>14710772

(Please read from the start)

Another interesting point is the shield Cain uses. It’s made of some sort of force field and each time it’ hit we see this sun rays like design pop out. We’ve seen a similar sunray design on a shield before on the bronze Plaque of the Hells – 4th register – weapon number 4 – page 965. We can see on the shield the sunrays design. There, the shield is circular while here, it’s more oval shaped.

The throne like chariot/ vehicle Balem uses is very weird, mostly because of what is at the front of it. Is this a real living human? How could they combine a biological being = human with that throne like chariot = machine? It reminds me of how nowadays Bloodlines try to merge humans with machinery.

The wings of Cain seem to be just like that as well, as in half biological/organic and half machine = a combination of both. When his wings were plugged out, he still had something on his back; right under the skin – something like a machine part. But when he got his wings back, they are very flexible and he moves with agility using them. They are made of natural feathers as in they are organic/biological. There is a golden line on top of the feathers, it’s as if it’s a machine. It holds the feathers structure together as if the technology has replaced the bones of birds.

We have so many ThunderBirds iconography on various types of artifacts worldwide, coming from different cultures and civilizations; and yet, we haven’t uncovered a single skeleton or any type of partial pieces of machinery, metals or anything that could make us understand what those wings are, how they function and how they can be used. As far as I know we haven’t found a single one of these wings, even partially. Why is that despite the fact we have plenty of iconography clearly showing the ThunderBirds worldwide? I think there are 2 possibilities here:

1 – The Native Americans provided us with an answer for this riddle: the wings deteriorated and got degraded, worn out. Seems like the wings needs to be regularly “taken care of”; while we know the feathers are organic/biological. So yes, the feathers will be the first to deteriorate. Without feathers, you cannot use the wings. But this equipment also needs to be regularly checked and kept in shape or it will deteriorate. So this could be a very logical explanation as to why we don’t have a single pair of ThunderBirds wings which have survived to nowadays.

2 – There is a slight, just a tiny possibility that, if not the pair of wings, at least some segments, fragments of them survived till nowadays, but it was recovered by the expert archaeologists of the Bloodlines and it has been kept away in some secret lab somewhere and (((they))) have been trying to reverse engineer it and understand how they function.

It could be any of the 2 possibilities or both combined. Interesting movie, isn’t it? I think there are a lot of coincidences in this movie….if you know what I mean there ^_~

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2c8a85  No.14716743

File: 3cdbabb34826988⋯.jpg (551.93 KB, 1382x2048, 691:1024, aquaman_movie_poster.jpg)

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>>14710791

(Please read from the start)

The last movie is Aquaman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman_(film)

“Aquaman is a 2018 American superhero film based on the DC Comics character of the same name. Distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures, it is the sixth film in the DC Extended Universe (DCEU). The film was directed by James Wan, from a screenplay by David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick and Will Beall. It stars Jason Momoa as Aquaman, who sets out to lead the underwater kingdom of Atlantis and stop his half-brother, King Orm, from uniting the seven underwater kingdoms to destroy the surface world. Amber Heard, Willem Dafoe, Patrick Wilson, Dolph Lundgren, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Ludi Lin, Temuera Morrison and Nicole Kidman appear in supporting roles.

[…]

Aquaman premiered in London on November 26, 2018, and was released in the United States on December 21. It grossed about $1.148 billion worldwide, making it the highest-grossing DCEU film, the highest-grossing film based on a DC Comics character, the fifth-highest-grossing film of 2018 and 20th-highest-grossing film of all time. The film received praise for its visual effects, production design, tone, action scenes, Wan's direction and Momoa's performance, but its plot and runtime were criticized. A sequel, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, is set to be released on December 16, 2022.”

>> Aquaman = Arthur is Blond (orginal in the comics), while Mera has red hair. Do you think the choice of hair colors is a coincidence? For some time, I’ve been suspecting the Evil Lady of having reddish/golden hair. I think both inherited their hair colors and their eye colors from their parents = as I’m suspecting the Royal Couple, mostly the King of kings, to being blond and / or have red hair – with colored eyes, mostly BLUE. And for those whom don’t find thing logical, please, go back and check current day Bloodlines families and see for yourselves which hair color and eye color (((they))) favor for themselves.

“Plot

In 1985 Maine, lighthouse keeper Thomas Curry rescues Atlanna, the queen of the underwater kingdom of Atlantis, during a storm. They fall in love and have a son named Arthur, who has the power to communicate with sea creatures. When Atlantean soldiers sent by King Orvax arrive to retrieve Atlanna, who fled her arranged marriage in Atlantis, she defeats them but is forced to leave her family to protect them from her people. She promises to return when safe to do so and goes back to Atlantis, entrusting her advisor, Nuidis Vulko, to train Arthur. Becoming a skilled warrior, Arthur rejects Atlantis upon learning that Atlanna was executed by Orvax for loving a human and having a half-breed son.”

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2c8a85  No.14716750

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>>14716743

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>> How touching! It starts with a love story….not just any love story, but a FORBIDDEN LOVE STORY. Haven’t we been talking about a forbidden love story in this thread? A relationship which was not accepted and children were born of this taboo relationship? What do you think dear reader? = Is this a projection, a bit re-arranged, but nonetheless a projection of that forbidden love story between the Evil Couple? And is it a projection to consider the child born from that forbidden relationship as the heir of the throne of Atlantis? See how (((they))) insert such ideas into your sub-conscious mind? See how the truth is right in front of you? You can make up your mind about this.

“In the present, after Steppenwolf's defeat, Arthur confronts pirates hijacking a Russian Akula-class submarine. Their leader is killed in a failed attempt to kill Arthur, and his son David vows revenge. The present king Orm Marius, Orvax's son (who is now Atlantis's new ruler after his father passed away) and Arthur's younger half-brother, convinces King Nereus of Xebel to help unite Atlantis and destroy the surface world for polluting the oceans. If Orm unites all four kingdoms, he will receive the title of Ocean Master, commander of the most powerful force on the planet. Nereus agrees to help after they are attacked by a submarine. In the present, after Steppenwolf's defeat, Arthur confronts pirates hijacking a Russian Akula-class submarine. Their leader is killed in a failed attempt to kill Arthur, and his son David vows revenge. The present king Orm Marius, Orvax's son (who is now Atlantis's new ruler after his father passed away) and Arthur's younger half-brother, convinces King Nereus of Xebel to help unite Atlantis and destroy the surface world for polluting the oceans. If Orm unites all four kingdoms, he will receive the title of Ocean Master, commander of the most powerful force on the planet. Nereus agrees to help after they are attacked by a submarine.”

>> We have Orm a blond, who uses a trick attack on the submarine to convince the red head king Nereus to join forces with him to start a war with the surface world. We’ve seen this idea before in this thread as well = the Evil One, head of the Serpent Sebetti Clan, convinces the Evil Lady, head of the Antelope Sebetti Clan, to join forces with him and take part of a coup to overthrow the King of kings. Same idea….but…I wonder what “trick” the Evil One used to get the Evil Lady to his side? Was it simply sex = seduction? Did he play on her fears and worries? Was it a bit of both?

The title of Ocean Master used in this movie is equivalent to the title of King of kings = it’s to indicated the ultimate = top ruler.

“Nereus' daughter Mera, betrothed to Orm, refuses to aid them and requests Arthur's help. Arthur accompanies her back to Atlantis, where Vulko urges him to find the Trident of Atlan, a magic artifact of Atlantis' first ruler, to reclaim his rightful place as king. They are ambushed by Orm's men, and Arthur is captured. Orm blames him for Atlanna's death and nearly kills him in a duel before Mera rescues him. Arthur and Mera journey to the fallen Kingdom of the Deserters hidden under the Sahara desert, where the trident was forged, and unlock a holographic message that leads them to Sicily, Italy, where they retrieve the trident's coordinates.”

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2c8a85  No.14716766

File: 7ac56d6c60700a4⋯.jpg (50.47 KB, 600x339, 200:113, Gates_of_Argonath.jpg)

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>>14716750

(Please read from the start)

>> The Entrance of Atlantis in this movie has 2 giant statues as guardians, reminding me of Gibraltar and how it was called “Les colonnes d’Héraclès”. It also reminds me of the Huge statues of the old kings we see in the trilogy of the Lord of the Rings, while they were sailing down a river (picture previous page).

Take a good and long look at the different types of armors the soldiers of Atlantis are wearing throughout the movie. It’s very interesting. Those red circular things on the red armors remind me of Iron Man blasters.

By joining Arthur and helping him, Mera defied her Father’s authority and joined the “rebellion” against king Orm’s rule. We have also been talking about this idea in this thread = as in the Evil Lady joining the rebellion against her own father and refusing his authority. But here, she the fiancée of Orm. We have encountered the possibility the Evil Lady being married to another man, but she was having a secret relationship with the Evil One. Is the relationship between Orm and Mera also a reflection/ projection from a distant past? So Mera decided to side with one brother against the other for the fight to the throne of Atlantis. Does this mean the Evil One was fighting his “brother” for the throne of Atlantis? = as in he wanted to be Crown Prince instead of his brother?

Vulko plays a very important role in the making of Arthur = he is his teacher, his mentor, his advisor, guide and most importantly, he is the one whom suggest to Arthur to retrieve the “powerful weapon” in order to prove his worth and legitimacy. Vulko provides to Arthur the “means” to become king = show him the path to the throne.

This “retrieving” of the Trident of Atlan reminds me of the Mes and the Tablets of Destinies which were needed to prove the legitimacy of the claim to the throne. Inanna stole them, tried to…but we know a ThunderBird took them back and put them somewhere on the top of a mountain. I want to point out = refresh anons memory that I don’t know what the Mes and the Tablets of Destinies really are and I’m unsure if they are the same and one thing or if they are 2 separate objects.

Also this idea of finding the lost trident reminds me terribly of the Armor of God, given to one person so he would know what to do with it when the time comes. And he did.

And then Vulko tells Arthur the story of Atlantis before it sank…giving us a glimpse of how it was and introducing to us king Atlan = the first ruler of Atlantis.

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2c8a85  No.14716775

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14716766

(Please read from the start)

Please listen carefully to what is said by Vulko in this video. I’m going to try and write the important section down for anons to read in here as well. The story starts with Vulko talking about the trident of king Atlan:

Vulko:“It was forged by the greatest weapon’s masters in history. Crafted from Poseidon’s steel for king Atlan, the first ruler of Atlantis. Legend says the trident was imbued with the power to command the sea.”

Arthur: “So, what happened to it?”

Vulko: “To know that, you must go back to the time before the Great Fall, when king Atlan ruled over all that was, when the kingdoms of Atlantis were One. It was a time of great prosperity and technological advancement. We have unlocked the secret of unlimited energy at a time when the rest of the world still thought the Earth was flat. But we became too ambitious. Too hungry for power. The oceans swallowed us and Atlantis sank. But the very power that collapsed our civilization also paved the way to our future. It gave us the ability to breath underwater. And so, we evolved. Others regressed, became savage. And the king lived out the remainder of his days in self-imposed exile. Neither he or the trident were ever seen again. One of our archaeological teams uncovered this a few months ago. It’s an ancient recording dating back to the first dynasty. I believe it contains Atlan’s final message to his people and the whereabouts of the sacred trident.”

>> Nice isn’t it anons? So let’s take a look at the video combined with this narration from Vulko.

The little discussion starts with the submarine attack and how Orm got Mera’s father to join him into going to war with the surface. Then Vulko tries to convince Arthur to make a claim to the throne by finding the trident of king Atlan. Everything reeks of plot and coup = the same exact conspiracy to kill the King of kings and take the throne of the real Atlantis, not just the one in the movie.

The trident of king Atlan represents a powerful weapon…it slightly reflects the thefts of the military tech from the other Sebetti clans and their merger with the armors of the Horned Serpents. But strangely, it also reminds me of the Mes and the Tablets of Destinies. Because they symbolize royal rule, in other words you need these objects (whatever they are) to legitimize your claim to the throne of the real Atlantis. Here, the trident of King Atlan is actually a fusion of both ideas = being a powerful weapon and in the same time it’s the symbol/a tool which legitimize the rule of its holder.

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2c8a85  No.14716786

File: 68dc41167c78d1a⋯.jpg (113.82 KB, 785x533, 785:533, Aquaman_King_Atlan.jpg)

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>>14716775

(Please read from the start)

Arthur says he’s from the surface and no one knows them or likes him from the Atlantean people. Vulko said he’s gotta proof he’s worthy by getting the symbol of royal power = the trident of Atlan….but he is also going to win the hearts and the minds of the Atlantean people by getting that trident. Isn’t this also a method used by the Evil One to get followers? And….wasn’t the King of kings popular and had won the hearts and the minds of his people? Did the Evil One want to imitate the King of kings? Of course he did, that’s why he “created” his own clan, with his own religion, with his own people, with his own army….and he also created his own dynasty = current day Bloodlines.

Here, king Atlan is a projection of the King of kings…we are getting new information about Him = He was the first ruler of Atlantis. The trident was forged from a special metal for Him = as in it was special. We also get to see king Atlan, which I think how he looks is also a projection of how the King of kings looked. In fact, in my little private research, we found out that the King of kings had colorful eyes = blue/green. And his hair was something between gold/red…but, it turned white early. We think it’s due to the High Spiritual power He had in Him. That’s why His hair shined and looked as if it was white, not blond/reddish. We also know He was old, as in He had lived for many years and He was in good health, not like an old dried out, on the verge of death.

According to “Legend” the trident a.k.a. the weapon of the King of kings had a special power = it was imbued by a power to command the sea. I think it’s more like it’s the source of all life. And what if that power was inside of the King of kings = his Spiritual Power. What if this is what gives life through the entire universe?

Vulko talks about the great fall…the fall of Atlantis. Which is true. We’ve been talking about a Great Cataclysm which wiped out most of mankind and turned the earth upside down…literally. I hope anons are paying attention to how the people are fleeing, running away in the video from the Cataclysm. See how the water is behaving and how the buildings are falling down while the earth = the ground is cracking. This is what happened back then….but….on a much bigger scale and it was harsher.

Before this Calamity happened, we also have a glimpse of how life was in Atlantis. There was peace, prosperity and from the looks of it in the video, mankind lived in harmony with each other and with Nature. We also know technology was very advanced and we can see flying machinery which looked like ships/ boats. And we can see also another machine, like some sort of transport unit which had 2 feet and can walk like birds can: biped machine.

Vulko also talks about “unlimited energy” which I believe is this wireless electricity, rediscovered by Tesla. Then, there is a mention of Flat Earth. I have no idea if he is making fun of the Flat Earthers or if he is confirming that theory. But I know these 2 ideas = flat earth and unlimited energy, are not mentioned randomly and by coincidence. Remember, (((they))) always like to rub things in our faces, then laugh about our ignorance…(((they))) like to “flash” (((their))) knowledge, stupid “illumination”, (((they))) like to brag about (((their)))) superiority.

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1079ce  No.14725289

File: ba780cb1c781ccd⋯.jpg (837.83 KB, 1200x600, 2:1, aquaman_concept2_1.jpg)

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>>14716786

(Please read from the start)

In the ancient kingdom of Atlantis, there were 7 kingdoms ruled as ONE. This is what I have been talking about with the Sebetti and everything related to this subject. It’s 6 kings/queens ruled over by the King of kings. There were 6 kingdoms all overseen by a central ruler = a central capital, the one we call Atlantis.

There is a scene in the movie, and I also found it as concept art and in the comic books as well, where we can see huge statues of the 7 rulers of Atlantis united, standing one next to the other. I’ve put some pictures I’ve found about them attached to this page. These giant statues of the Atlantean rulers are represented in different settings in both the movie and the comic, but we can see they have same characteristics, all 7 of them, despite the change of settings.

The first thing we notice is the presence of 7 rulers composed of 5 male rulers = kings and 2 female rulers = queens. I tried to identify them using one of the pictures. All the male Sebetti rulers are dressed with armors. And all of the Sebetti clothing style is Greek/Roman style in the pictures I’ve got.

In the middle stands the King of kings…since it’s an aquatic movie, they gave Him a helmet/crown with fish fins. I think it’s normal for such decoration for the king of the oceans in this movie. Then next to Him, on His left hand side, there is a woman standing, she looks incredibly close to the standard classical depiction of Athena = the Greek goddess. I wonder where they got this inspiration from for the comics/movie. With her helmet, spear and shield, she looks like a warrior goddess, but her dress covers her and is chaste making her a wise, balanced warrior. I believe this is Neith.

I’m going to continue on the statues to the left of the King of kings. Next to Neith, there is a broken statue. Here, unfortunately it’s broken, but since he is naked = we can see his genitals, it’s clearly a male.

There is something, I don’t know if anons understood me before when I talked about it, mostly while checking Inanna. Before the Evil Couple, there was no such things has negative thoughts, feelings and acts. This included nudity, perverted sexuality and all the vices you can think of. When you understand how the Holy Spirit works = it’s not bound to physical needs, so it’s clear from such thoughts, mostly negative ones. There were no degenerated acts before the Evil Couple = they are the founder of all the trouble we have right now…not just the Bloodline agenda and how (((they))) behave, but us….yes us…we are the problem too….a part of it….how is that? We were programmed by (((them))) and (((they))) wanted to turn us into (((their))) ideal society. This means, humans are not like this. Nowadays, 99.99% of people have no manners, they are extremely selfish, disrespectful, immoral, no decency, spoiled, lazy, self-centered. As a society we’ve changed a lot. Darn it! We’ve changed a lot since I was a kid myself.

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1079ce  No.14725312

>>14725289

(Please read from the start)

This one is on purpose, to create a blockade inside of us so we cannot connect with the Spirit. And as I mentioned just before, (((they))) are turning us into (((their))) ideal society. It wasn’t like this when Atlantis existed. We were all connected to each other and to the Sebetti rulers and to our Heavenly Father. It was peaceful….inside of us. We had pure thoughts and pure hearts – believe it or not. But it all changed, everything changed with the Evil Couple introducing and injecting all of those negative and bad behaviors and the programing. It all started with them and now their current day descendants are still using the same methods and same tricks on us. Once you understand how it works, you will see, it’s the same tactics from the dawn of humanity being used against us. The tools might change, but the core is the same.

And it’s because of this degeneracy of morals that I’m calling this broken, NUDE, male statue the Evil One. The nudity highlights his sexuality which he was also another addict to, a perverted addict. Everything you know about current day perverted, disgusting, sexual practices of the Bloodlines - I do mean everything – started with him, his insanity caused by his illness and his desperate need for fresh human blood in order to tame his illness. So this is him = the Evil One standing next to Neith and amazingly, he truly is standing on the left hand of the King of kings = his left hand man.

Next to him there is a bearded male deity with curly hair. If you can zoom in on his face, you will notice he has his face covered with a mask = he is wearing a mask. This is why I think this is Viracocha. This mask wearing thingy of his is a real riddle. Amazingly here, the way this statue is depicted, it reminds me a lot of Bochica (starting page 325).

When you look at the left hand side of the King of kings, you will notice that they Sebetti rulers are standing according to their rank. I’m saying this because of Neith. She is the spouse of the Great King, so she holds a higher title and a higher rank/position than the other 2 Sebetti rulers. And with the information I’ve got about the Evil One from everything I’ve gathered, it’s clear he was someone middle ranked. And here, he stands in middle between the higher up = the Queen and another Sebetti ruler to his left. Maybe I’m not convincing enough, but I truly think in this picture, they are standing according to their ranks.

Now let’s move to the right hand side of the King of kings. A male Sebetti ruler is standing there, but this one is young. Why am I saying this? Because he has no beard. In Antiquity, they used to portray older men with beards and younger man beardless to denote the age category they belonged to. This young man, despite wearing his helmet, clearly doesn’t have a beard. And he is standing on the right hand side of the King of kings. I think this is the Crown Prince and he is exactly where he should be = he is the right hand man of the Great King.

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1079ce  No.14725326

>>14725312

(Please read from the start)

Next to him is a female Sebetti which is obviously the Evil Lady. See how she is different than Neith and how her clothing is more sensual than those of Neith? In the first picture I’ve attached to page 1 414, we can clearly see her represented naked, reminding me of Aphrodite. In the picture of that page, the Sebetti rulers are standing differently than how they are with the image I’ve put the names on….but anons can still identify them due to the details, like the mask Viracocha is wearing. Also on the picture with black background I’m working on, the Evil Lady is standing with an animal next to her. I’m unsure if it’s fish or a snake. Either way, it’s interesting.

If I follow the rank idea here, just like I did with the left hand side of the King of kings, then yes, this makes the Evil Lady a Sebetti ruler of an inferior rank to the Crown Prince, but of the same rank as the Evil One. If those 2 are truly siblings….not just any siblings, but twins….then….it makes sense why both of them got the same rank.

Next to her, a bearded male Sebetti ruler is standing. This one, we have no information at all about him….at least, not yet….but we will find them as we progress in this thread. I just want to point out that his beard is pointing to his age = he is older than the Crown Prince, the Evil Lady and the Evil One. But in the same time, he is younger than the King of kings. And of course, it seems his rank is lower than the Evil Lady. It’s the same as Viracocha.

Seeing him and Viracocha with beards, and standing on what seems to be the spot of the lowest rank…these 2 might NOT be the offspring of the King of kings, but His close relatives. As in Uncles, Brothers, Nephews. I’m inclined to see them as His brothers. For now it’s a possibility. It’s better to gather more information.

Since this is an aquatic movie, all the rulers of Atlantis here are holding tridents, different types of tridents. But I think this is a mirroring to the staff weapons.

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1079ce  No.14725351

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>>14725326

(Please read from the start)

Then Vulko says that greed for more power occurred. He uses the word WE, while narrating, but…when you look at that video, they show you king Atlan. This is an indirect way of saying that King Atlan = the King of kings got greedy and wanted more power. Which is not true; it was them = the Evil Couple. Here, (((they))) are projecting the sins and crimes of the Evil Couple onto the Great King. Same method used with Osiris when his murder is justified by (((them))) because he was not a good ruler according to (((them))) of course. Same justification we see with Inanna’s many tales and how her “bad” actions, from thefts to killing, to raging wars, were all justified. We are seeing things = the story, from (((their))) perspective here.

Then, they switch in the video to a scene in the Royal Place of Atlantis where there is this strange looking device = machine. I’m attaching a picture of it to this page. I’ve never seen such a machine, nor am I smart enough to guess what its function is. One thing I’m certain about this devise though, is that it has a connection to energy. What kind of energy? Well, it’s something close to nuclear type or plasma type of energy; something from down that line.

I also think this is the object/device which exploded and triggered the Cataclysm. I believe this is the devise the Evil One tried to get or tampered with; thinking if he controls this machine he will be king. But from what we already know only the King of king could contain this devise. I’m thinking in the line that there was probably some sort of cooling mechanism to this machine or something to regulate it and balance it. So if the Evil One tampered with that mechanism…you get what I mean.

Also in this video when this devise explodes, it creates some type of shockwave and this wave kinda knocks out everyone around; triggering the Cataclysm = the destruction starts and Atlantis “supposedly” sink, is swallowed by the oceans. When you look at the scene, King Atlan was standing there when the explosion occurred, apparently he (indirectly accused) triggered it by placing his trident = connecting it to the devise. Don’t forget, according to (((them))) it’s the fault of the King of kings.

But there were also others standing there, with light grey/silver clothing and hair. Seems they are some type of scientists or some type of religious order. They are all wearing the same and some are holding stuff. I’m split 50/50 as to these being the “scientists” as in a projection of the Wolf Clan – since the Wolf Clan seems to be the “scientific” expert clan. Or these could be the Fish men = the Spiritual Healers whom were under the command of the King of kings.

Then Vulko says that the event which doomed Atlantis = the explosion, was also a blessing in disguise as it was the source/reason why the surviving Atlanteans managed to breath underwater. First of all, I don’t understand how the death of millions by a Cataclysm can be even considered as a blessing = paving the way to the future. Again, this is (((their))) narrative. The death of millions is not a blessing no matter what the end result is. It’s like (((they))) are saying that in each evil thing there is a good thing. No…I don’t think so. There is nothing good in the death of millions.

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1079ce  No.14725387

File: 6c7f3daf6ce1b5b⋯.jpg (50.81 KB, 599x452, 599:452, fisherman_aquaman.jpg)

File: cc9958bbc92e3c0⋯.jpg (46.27 KB, 768x433, 768:433, trench_aquaman.jpg)

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>>14725351

(Pleaser read from the start)

Secondly, Vulko mentions something extra-ordinary = radiation. He doesn’t say it out loud but he says that some of the Atlanteans evolved by turning into Fish men (first pictures attached to this page). So according to them, it’s evolution to turn into a fish. Great! Sorry, but I don’t consider that evolution, that’s regression. We are born as to the image of our Heavenly Father, so this means we are built to be almost perfect beings or if you want to say, we are on top of the chain. So turning us into half an animal, half a human, is no evolution but a regression because we are getting closer to losing our human form and getting closer to the animal form.

And…this mixing of animal and human genes, we’ve talked about it before in this thread and we’ve said that the Evil One wanted to play creator and tried to create life himself, since he couldn’t he took what already existed and mixed them together creating Frankenstein like creatures. So here we have that idea projected to us.

It doesn’t stop here with the radiation, Vulko talks also about a regression that occurred to 2 of the kingdoms and turned them into…I don’t know what to call them. Is “primitive beings” a good choice to describe them? Here, he is pointing to the Brine Kingdom and the Trench and they represent people whom are very barbaric, semi animalistic beings living on instinct with no rational, clear and conscious thoughts. So according to this movie, the radiation affected people differently and we can say it affected them in opposing ways = both positively and negatively.

So what’s the meaning of all of this in the movie? What message is it sending us? = I just talked about that nuclear like devise exploding and triggering the Cataclysm. The explosion was so powerful that it triggered a sequence of Cataclysmic events. But it didn’t stop there, since this devise was linked to some sort of energy, maybe nuclear, the explosion created radiation. And anons do know how radiation, mostly nuclear radiation can affect, change and mutate every type of life form…. Including humans.

This is not the first time we encounter this idea in this thread. We’ve seen it before when taking a look at the cartoon called the Mysterious Cities of Gold (starting page 336). On page 337, they say that the Olmecs are the descendants of the survivors of the big war. They hid under a mountain and were able to survive by going into cryogenic sleep or hibernation. And if you look closely to the pictures I’ve put of the Olmecs, they do not look very human because they have mutated = their physical shape changed. They got shorter, got pointy ears like those of an elf we see in the movies; and their frontal lobes became bigger. But what I like in this cartoon is that they admitted in it whom was responsible for the horrible event that took place = the explosion that took place. According to the cartoon, it’s their ancestors and because of this nuclear fallout, a mutation changed the physical appearance of the survivors and their descendants. Please, go back to the cartoon, and read everything once more you will see that story fitting perfectly with everything I’ve been telling you.

The funny part is that they also mention the “sterility” of the Bloodlines a.k.a. the Olmecs in the cartoon. LoL! Enjoy the read.

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1079ce  No.14725397

File: 23c71f0b2de4d84⋯.jpg (4.56 KB, 259x194, 259:194, Hiroshima_Nagasaki_nuclear….jpg)

File: d3bac72feddfd36⋯.jpg (67.21 KB, 483x565, 483:565, Chernobyl_mutations.jpg)

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>>14725387

(Please read from the start)

Maybe some readers think I’m gone all senile. Yeah, maybe, but… let’s take a look at modern age examples. Real life examples and not examples from cartoons. I’ve attached with this page to anons 3 pictures, each from one HUGE nuclear event/fallout which left behind a radiation in areas with mostly human presence. You can check the rest of the pictures online. I will say it’s very disturbing to see them, so those with faint hearts are advised to skip this.

I’ve put pictures of how radiation affects, humans, animals and plants = all living things. The first one is from Hiroshima/Nagasaki. The second one is from Chernobyl. The Third one is from Fukushima. These are proofs of how radiation can affect all living things, including humans and it’s proof of how a genetic mutation occurs. I’ve read a lot of stuff about this issue and it is said that MOST with STRONG mutation don’t live much because they cannot be sustained at a cellular level….at least that is one of the things I’ve read.

But some, with minor mutation can live and they also can transmit this mutation to their descendants; humans included. I guess it all depends on the type of mutation and on the severity of it = its degree. Some can handle it, some cannot.

But not all is dark, life always find a way. I’ve read recently about this special type of fungus that absorbs radiation: https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/videos/chernobyl-fungus-eats-nuclear-radiation-via-radiosynthesis-338464?form=MY01SV&OCID=MY01SV

See whom is involved in this? = N.A.S.A. ^_~

For those interested, please look further into this online. It’s very interesting. And for further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus

“Role of melanin

Melanins are a family of naturally-occurring ancient pigments with radio-protective properties that are generally dark brown/black. It is important to note that melanin has a high molecular weight. This pigment can transduce and shield energy, therefore it can absorb electromagnetic radiation and absorb light. This quality means that melanin can protect melanized fungi from ionizing radiation. The energy transduction enhances growth in the fungi as well, meaning that melanized fungi grow faster. Melanin is also an advantage to the fungus in that it helps it survive in many different, more extreme, and varying environments. Examples of these environment include the damaged reactor at Chernobyl, the space station, and the Antarctic mountains.

Melanin may also be able to help the fungus metabolize radiation into energy, but more evidence and research is still needed.”

>> Melanin is used in? = PAINTING and dying material for fabric, ceramics etc. Since when it’s in use? It’s getting interesting, isn’t it anons?

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43c71c  No.14731910

>>14725397

(Please read from the start)

Now take a look at the next part from the Wikipedia page:

“Use in human spaceflight

It is hypothesized that radiotrophic fungi could potentially be used as a shield to protect against radiation, specifically in affiliation to the use of astronauts in space or other atmospheres. An experiment taking place at the International Space Station in December 2018 through January 2019 was conducted in order to test whether the use of radiotrophic fungi could aid in protection against ionizing radiation in space, as part of research efforts proceeding a possible trip to Mars. This experiment used the radiotrophic strain of the fungi Cladosporium sphaerospermum. The growth of this fungi and its ability to deflect the effects of ionizing radiation were studied for 30 days aboard the International Space Station. This experimental trial yielded very auspicious results.

The amount of radiation deflected was found to have a direct correlation to the amount of fungus. There was no difference in the reduction of ionizing radiation between the experimental and control group within the first 24 hour period, however once the radiotrophic fungi had reached an adequate maturation, and with a 180° protection radius, it was found that amounts of ionizing radiation were significantly reduced as compared to the control group. With a 1.7 mm thick shield of melanized radiotrophic Cladosporium sphaerospermum, measurements of radiation nearing the end of the experimental trial were found to be 2.42% lower, demonstrating radiation deflecting capabilities five times that of the control group. Under circumstances in which the fungi would fully encompass an entity, radiation levels would be reduced by an estimated 4.34±0.7%. Estimations indicate that approximately a 21 cm thick layer could significantly deflect the annual amount of radiation received on Mars’ surface. Limitations to the use of a radiotrophic fungi based shield include increased mass on missions. However as a viable substitute to reduce overall mass on potential Mars missions, a mixture with equal mole concentration of Martian soil, melanin, and a layer of fungi roughly 9 cm thick, could be used.”

>> Look at the dates anons….and that article about the fungus in Chernobyl was written in 2020 if my memory is not betraying me. Whom was president in 2018, 2019 and 2020? Whom mentioned in his rallies about going to Mars? I have 2 questions:

- What is this really about? I mean REALLY about?

- What about the nuclear waste put in those big installations, including the “polluted” water used for the reactors?

So you see anons, this mutation idea in the movie is not fiction it’s a FACT. Imagine what are the consequences of a huge nuclear like explosion? Image the results/consequences of a huge scale radiation. I am going to pause it here for now and I want you to research this and think hard about it. We are going to talk later on about all of this.

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43c71c  No.14731921

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>>14731910

(Please read from the start)

Let’s continue where I left off with Aquaman and finish this movie.

According to Vulko, King Atlan lived in exile for the rest of his life, never seen again. Well, the King of kings was never seen again because he was murdered. Then Vulko mentions that an Antlantean archaeological team (that one made me laugh) discovered a cylinder like which is thought to be a recording dating back from the first Dynasty. It’s believed that this recording contains the last words of king Atlan. I don’t know about you anons, but this situation mentioned here reminds me terribly of Ancient Egypt and how the pre-dynastic era and the first dynasties were closer to what really happened than the later times.

After this Arthur and Mera go onto a journey into finding the trident and look at the geographic location they travel to:

1 - The Sahara desert (take note for later): we’ve seen before in this thread that the Sahara desert = all of north Africa, was a tropical forest before the Cataclysm (pages 83, then sample picture page 165). Somewhere in the Sahara, they find where the trident is forged and they unlock a holographic message. This is for sure ancient civilization technology that the Bloodlines have been trying to reverse engineer and they probably succeeded in this one, but we, the public, still don’t know about it.

2 – This leads them all the way to Sicily: we’ve already talked about Sicily before in this thread and how it was connected to Tunis via a land bridge; but when the Cataclysm occurred, that piece of land sank underwater (page 83).

From all the geographic location on the Earth, it had to be these 2 places. What an incredible coincidence! Oh and I will be talking about the Sahara a bit more later in this thread. That place still has information to give.

“Orm gives David a prototype Atlantean battle suit to kill Arthur, imprisons Vulko, and coerces the Kingdom of the Fishermen to pledge their allegiance to him by killing their king and forcing the queen and princess to accept. It is also revealed that Orm hired David and his father to hijack the Russian submarine (which is the same one that attacked Atlantis earlier) to win Nereus's support. An armored David rechristens himself as Black Manta and injures Arthur, but he manages to defeat David. At their destination, Arthur and Mera fend off amphibious monsters of the Trench, and a wormhole transports them to an uncharted sea at the center of the Earth. They are reunited with Atlanna, who was sacrificed to the Trench for Arthur's illegitimate birth 20 years ago, but had survived and escaped to the uncharted sea, alive and well.”

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43c71c  No.14731960

File: b0c533966cc23b7⋯.jpg (355.55 KB, 1400x990, 140:99, Aquaman_Black_Manta.jpg)

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>>14731921

(Please read from the start)

>> Here, we find out there was a third wheel (sort of speak) behind the submarine attack. If you want, you can say we found out there was a manipulator of the situation or a man behind the curtain. This is an ancient tactic conceived most probably by the twisted mind of the Evil Couple and then used and applied by them, the rest of the coup plotters and their current day descendants as well. But since time and society evolved throughout History, the descendants gradually perfected their technique and methods to adapt it to the age they lived in, regardless of when it was.

It’s still used by (((them))) till this very day, in how they divide society between white and black, man and women, young and old etc… but they also divide nations and set them up on each other (while making big bucks selling weapons and taking the natural resources) like what they did to the Talibans and Americans: (((they))) told each one of them that the enemy is the other side, (((they))) lied, tricked, manipulated, used and abused both sides…and the American people still don’t get it…while with the Talibans…to my surprise, I’m seeing indications they are playing a role in the big movie we are watching. I never thought they would agree to join in. I admit it: Potus surprised me big time here. After all, what makes a great movie? = great actors. It was really unexpected. Does this mean all Taliban are good? Of course not, there are always bad apples everywhere.

About the Black Manta: Look closely to it anons, doesn’t it feel like a déjà vu? For those whom have been researching here and there for some time, haven’t you seen this one before? ^_^ Like in a cave maybe? I’m going to let you think on it for now.

We have an uncharted sea at the center of the Earth. The first thing that came to my mind is actually Jules Verne with his “Voyage au center de la Terre” = Journey to the center of the Earth. I think this is a good digging tunnel for the hollow earth subject and those whom are interested in it should check not just the book but also Jules Verne and his background; like if he is an illuminati or a Free-mason etc. We also mentioned this idea when taking a quick look at the movie Godzilla: king of monsters (page 1 168). We also saw there a 3 headed dragon like creature facing the cross = the monster is the 3 sides of (((their))) pyramid; as in it’s the + ++ +++.

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43c71c  No.14731976

>>14731960

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Queen Atlanna was “sacrificed” to the Trench = isn’t this human sacrifice to monsters like creatures? You don’t need me to tell you what this one is projecting. Also, don’t you wish (((they))) were a tiny bit more creative with the names…I mean queen Atlanna and king Atlan, Atlantis kingdom….really?! No creativity at all.

“Arthur faces the Karathen, a mythical leviathan and keeper of the trident, and voices his determination to protect both Atlantis and the surface, reclaiming the trident, which grants him control over the seven seas. As Orm leads his army against the Kingdom of the Brine to declare himself Ocean Master, Arthur, with Mera, Karathen, and the Trench, lead an army of marine creatures against him. Orm's followers embrace Arthur as the true king upon learning that he wields Atlan's trident. Arthur defeats Orm but spares his life, and Orm accepts his imprisonment after discovering that Arthur rescued their mother. Atlanna reunites with Thomas as promised, while Arthur ascends to the throne.

In a mid-credits scene, David is rescued by Dr. Stephen Shin, a marine scientist and conspiracy theorist obsessed with Atlantis, and agrees to lead Shin there in exchange for help in his revenge on Arthur.”

>> (((They))) cannot help themselves can’t (((they)))? (((They))) had to throw in there a Jewish element.

I’m sure there is more to go in this movie and it’s filled with symbolism. I cannot go over them all, I will leave that to those whom are interested in such aspects of the research.

Before moving on to the next section, I want to remind anons that I’m only using Wikipedia for the reader, as an encyclopedia. The stuff I say is based on the accumulation of many years of research. I hear a lot from anons that they’ve been searching for decades too. Sorry to tell you but it’s not like me. Don’t go thinking I’m arrogant or something like that. I’m trying to tell you that I’ve been there. I mean I didn’t rely on the book or only the archives. I went there myself, and so did my old teacher. This is why what we did was different = we went to check it locally ourselves, the artifact, the temple, the site. We went to make sure it’s real, it’s authentic, and what is written about it is correct. We didn’t trust what was written blindly.

Let me give you an example. When talking about the Evil Lady, my teacher spent over 50 years of his life studying her and her many forms in the Middle East. He’s got tones of data from artifacts (like reliefs, statues etc.) about her for centuries. He managed to trace her and her transformations in many places in the area. We didn’t simply rely on written documents despite that we read most of them.

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43c71c  No.14731988

>>14731976

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You have no idea just how a pain it is to read the Ancient Egyptian administrative archive or that of Mesopotamia. We’ve gone through the almanacs, administrative archives, biographies, auto-biographies (from ancient times, not the recent ones as in what they wrote about themselves), we went through the chronicles, correspondence and mostly we checked most if not all the archaeological reports and excavations results, including raw data. When we suspected something, we went to check it in situ. We saw a lot of artifacts which are stored in the warehouses which I cannot even take a picture of to show anons. We worked manually most of the time, it’s only been a couple of decades that technology is helping us in our research. There was one time we traveled to Lebanon after a discovery and we ended up in Iraq after 3 days following the trail, passing through Syria and Jordan. We also talked with locals to get the “untold” or “unofficial” story behind things.

I’m saying we did things differently because we saw our colleagues fail when they walked down the normal path. So we decided to rely only on ourselves and we extracted the information ourselves; what we understood from what we had in our hands. And what you are reading, is the result of it.

I’m reminding the reader of all of this on purpose…because of the next section. Most of you ain’t gonna like what I’m going to talk about at all since it’s not what you are used to. Here, you gotta make a choice, either let go of what you think you know, or…you keep holding onto them. The choice is yours. Don’t forget to research things out yourselves. You’ve got plenty of good museum and big libraries with copies of the archives in them. You also have the online catalogues….. so check things out. I hope the reader will keep what I said in mind for the upcoming section.

I’m going to ask for your patience if you are going to read because everything is connected in the upcoming section and you will get the answers in some parts which come afterwards. The next section is made up of 2 parts which are connected and intertwined. One goes hand in hand with the second. We do have gaps and blurry areas. Most would consider this as circumstantial and not definitive. Maybe…but when you have loads of circumstantial evidence all pointing to the same direction, what do you make of it?

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0ba0d7  No.14738627

>>14731988

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Next I’m going to suit up and become a lawyer because I’m going to court. But this is not just any court: I’m going to become the defense lawyer of the Phoenicians against the accusations about them practicing human sacrifice, mostly children, including infant sacrifice. This is going to be the first part of this section = Human sacrifice practiced by the Phoenicians. It’s interlinked to the accusation of the Phoenicians worshiping Satan.

I have 4 evidences in this case against the Phoenicians presented by the prosecutors. And I have 3 witnesses against them. Since I’m playing the defense attorney, I am going to go through each one of them starting with the evidences presented by the prosecutors against the Phoenicians as proof they practiced human sacrifice.

While I’m working on the evidences, please be patient till I finish each one because I must explain things for the reader about the context of the evidence, just like they do in court. I would also like to ask anons, if they have knowledge of additional evidence but I didn’t mention it = I missed it, to point it out to me so I can go over it before I finish this section = bring it up. I’m going to start with the evidence randomly = no specific order and I’m going to work from memory.

I already know the result of this case and you might be suspecting where I’m going with this, dear reader. I’m not that good at convincing people, so I’m going to lay things out for you and let you decided if the Phoenicians are guilty of practicing human sacrifice or not. If you find things not fitting together then go check things out yourselves. I’m not here to satisfy anyone, I’m here to tell what I know.

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0ba0d7  No.14738639

>>14738627

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Evidence 1: Is made of a group of archaeological artifacts called Ex-Votos found in the vicinity of the temple of Eshmun, located in the South of Lebanon.

Before we start with artifacts, let’s examine their context (just like what I did with the Dendera Temple and other places) to understand better what we are talking about here:

Who is Eshmun? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eshmun

Before I start with the Wikipedia page, I want to point we don’t have a single artifact of any type of Eshmun. In other words we don’t know how he looks like. What you see online are imaginative art done by current day fans or artists. They do not relate in any kind to the real Eshmun. Again, we don’t know how he looks like, what his symbol is nor his attributes and characteristics in the iconography because we don’t have a single artifact where he is depicted; till this day. Please keep that in mind while researching.

“Eshmun (or Eshmoun, less accurately Esmun or Esmoun; Phoenician:, ʾšmn) was a Phoenician god of healing and the tutelary god of Sidon.”

>> Please go to the Wikipeadia page link to see how it’s written in Phoenician. There is an error on how the Wikipedia page presented the name of Eshmun in Phoenician letters. Phoenician is written and read from right to left just like Arabic is and it’s in the opposite direction from Latin, English, French, Spanish etc. I don’t know if this is done on purpose or by pure ignorance from the part of the person whom wrote this Wikipedia page but they wrote in like we do with Latin alphabet, not as it should be in Phoenician. I’m not an expert in Phoenician language, but I know the basics as well as a few letters, like the A…it’s the first one you see on your left hand looking like scissors or chopsticks. It should be the first letter on the right, not the left like it is presented to us in this page. The order of the all letters should be fixed.

Eshmun is the god of HEALING. Some, mostly since Greek era, associated him with Asclepius. Be careful when working on this because of mutation and we know how the Greek interpreted things how they saw it and not how they truly were. We see this many times already in this thread happen with other things and in other places.

Eshmun is the guardian = protector deity of the City-State of Sidon in Phoenicia. Sidon is in the South of Lebanon and it’s still a city where people live there till this present day.

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0ba0d7  No.14738647

>>14738639

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“History

This god was known at least from the Iron Age period at Sidon and was worshipped also in Tyre, Beirut, Cyprus, Sardinia, and in Carthage where the site of Eshmun's temple is now occupied by the acropolium of Carthage.”

>> So Eshmun was known at Sidon from least from around 1 300 B.C. with possibility he was known at a much earlier date. This doesn’t just mean the deity is old, it also means the Phoenician City- State of Sidon is also very old and there is a Phoenician culture where they worship a healing god way before the Greeks appeared and had such a god. Compare with the worship of Asclepius in Greece and you will see there is at least 7 to 8 centuries of difference between the 2. At least. Here is the link for Asclepius: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asclepius

Here, we have a nice list of Phoenician City-States like Tyre, Beirut and Carthage. We also have Cyprus and Sardinia = two very well-known islands colonized by the Phoenicians.

In old times, when Christianity kicked in, they used to demolish a pagan temple and build a church in the same spot to prevent the possible reconstruction of the temple. This is why the acropolium of Carthage was built at the same location = same spot as the temple of Eshmun in the city.

“According to Eusebius of Caesarea, Phoenician author Sanchuniathon wrote that Sydyk, 'The Righteous', first fathered seven sons equated with the Greek Cabeiri or Dioscuri, no mother named, and then afterwards fathered an eighth son by one of the seven Titanides or Artemides. (See Kotharat). The name Eshmun appears to mean 'the Eighth'.

The Neo-Platonist Damascius also stated

The Asclepius in Beirut is neither a Greek nor an Egyptian, but some native Phoenician divinity. For to Sadyk were born children who are interpreted as Dioscuri and Cabeiri; and in addition to these was born an eighth son, Esmunus, who is interpreted as Asclepius.

Photius (Bibliotheca Codex 242) summarizes Damascius as saying further that Asclepius of Beirut was a youth who was fond of hunting. He was seen by the goddess Astronoë (thought by many scholars to be a version of ‘Ashtart) who so harassed him with amorous pursuit that in desperation he castrated himself and died. Astronoë then named the youth Paeon 'Healer', restored him to life from the warmth of her body, and changed him into a god. A village near Beirut named Qabr Shmoun, "Eshmoun's grave," still exists.

A trilingual inscription of the 2nd century BCE from Sardinia also identifies Eshmun with the Greek Asclepius and the Latin Aesculapius. Pausanias quotes a Sidonian as saying that the Phoenicians claim Apollo as the father of Asclepius, as do the Greeks, but unlike them do not make his mother a mortal woman. The Sidonian then continued with an allegory which explained that Apollo represented the sun, whose changing path imparts to the air its healthiness which is to be understood as Asclepius. This allegory seems likely a late invention. Also, Apollo is usually equated with the Phoenician plague god Resheph. This might be a variant version of Eshmun's parentage, or Apollo might also be equated with Sadyk, and Sadyk might be equated with Resheph.

The name Astresmunim ("herb of Eshmun") was applied by Dioscorides to the solanum, which was regarded as having medicinal qualities.”

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0ba0d7  No.14738660

>>14738647

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>> Anyone noticed the late dates of those “opinions” and explanations? And did anyone notice how they all interpreted things according to their own view which reeks of Greek influence? All of this is a huge mutation and nothing but these writers trying to explain things according to their own views and beliefs, not as things really were. I don’t believe a single word writen by these late date writers.

Did you notice there isn’t a single information about the Phoenician Eshmun, the authentic, original one, mostly the one dating back from at least 1 300 B.C.? I personally think Eshmun and his cult date older than this. This belief is older than we are told. We didn’t find anything so far but it doesn’t mean we won’t find any in the future because the site of his temple is not fully excavated, nor the fields around it properly surveyed. So, there is room for more discoveries.

“Worship

The temple to Eshmun is found one km from Sidon on the Bostrenus River, the modern River Awwali. Building was begun at the end of the 6th century BCE during the reign of Eshmunazar II, and later additions were made up into the Roman period. It was excavated by Maurice Dunand in 1963-1978. Many votive offerings were found in the form of statues of persons healed by the god, especially babies and young children.”

>> Correct location given of the site. Incorrect information provided about the start of the construction beginning during the reign of Eshmunazar II. I will be explaining this a bit further down. Correct information provided that with each era, new sections were added to the temple and some parts were restored, all the way to the Roman period. And yes, it’s the same Maurice Dunand (starting page 870) whom excavated the site of Byblos = Phoenician City-State of Gebal; whom excavated the temple of Eshmun near Sidon.

The votive offerings mentioned in this paragraph are the Evidence number 1 presented by the prosecutors in my court case against the Phoenicians. I will be talking about them, but first, let’s finish with the context so that the reader can understand what this is all about. I must admit, they worded this sentence very carefully in Wikipedia. And yes anons, MANY votive figurines were found in that location.

“Also found near the Sidon temple was a gold plaque of Eshmun and the goddess Hygeia (meaning "Health") showing Eshmun holding a staff in his right hand around which a serpent is entwined. A coin of the 3rd century CE from Beirut shows Eshmun standing between two serpents.”

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0ba0d7  No.14738691

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>>14738660

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>> I was never able to see the gold plaque myself because “it vanished”. But since they mention Hygeia along with Eshmun, it means he is already associated to Asclepius and this plaque was designed under the Greek influence and not the original Phoenician Eshmun is depicted on it. As for the coin, it’s from Roman era, very late in date, so I don’t take into account much because of the mutation on top of the mutation that occurred to the cult of Eshmun. The presence of serpents in the Greek and Roman periods of Eshmun iconography is due to his association with Asclepius whom in turn had serpents as his symbol. We don’t have a Phoenician iconography of Eshmun, so we don’t know if serpents were really, truly his symbols or not. That is most probably a Greek addition, imitated by the Romans due to the iconography of Asclepius.

“Bterram, a village in Lebanon, possesses a very old underground temple called Eshmunit, comprising eight rooms (one large and seven small), carved into the bedrock and accessible by stairs. It is thought this may be a temple to a spouse of Eshmun.”

>> I’ve never been to Bterram nor did I see this underground temple of Eshmun. This is not the first time I’ve seen such thing though. These old pagan temples were abandoned and their doors were sealed with heavy blocks. Along the centuries, people built on top of them without knowing there is an ancient structure under them. I, myself have found 4 different temples in different regions in Lebanon which were buried and new houses were constructed on top of them. And the residents of these houses aren’t even aware of the presence of the ancient temples. I’ve checked the doors of 2 of them, they are perfectly sealed = no one entered or got out of there for many, many centuries. These temples were not used at all, just abandoned and totally forgotten by the populace. And if someone ever got word of the existence of an ancient temple in their town, everyone will rush to find it because they all think there are treasure chests filled with gold and diamonds in them.People’s minds are filled with gold and gemstones when they hear the word archaeology. I’m sorry for the poor quality of the images I’m attaching with this page for the Bterram Eshmun temple. I couldn’t find better on the net.

The information we got about Eshmun is very simple:

1 - He is a healer god.

2 - We have no authentic Phoenician iconography of him nor do we know his authentic symbol.

3 -He is the patron deity of the City-State Sidon.

4 – His cult goes back to AT LEAST 1 300 B.C. in Phoenicia.

5 – His cult was spread to many Phoenicians settlements and colonies through-out the Mediterranean Sea.

I personally think the cult or worship of Eshmun is older than this. I have indications which points to the existence of an older temple constructed in the same place, but it was made of wood. It was replaced later on by a stone temple and this stone temple was enlarged several times through the eras and new sections were gradually added to it. Some parts were even restored and reshaped to save them from collapsing.

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aeb21a  No.14745836

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>>14738691

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Now let’s take a look at the Temple of Eshmun at Bustan el-Cheikh, near Sidon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Eshmun

“The Temple of Eshmun (Arabic: ‎) is an ancient place of worship dedicated to Eshmun, the Phoenician god of healing. It is located near the Awali river, 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) northeast of Sidon in southwestern Lebanon. The site was occupied from the 7th century BC to the 8th century AD, suggesting an integrated relationship with the nearby city of Sidon. Although originally constructed by Sidonian king Eshmunazar II in the Achaemenid era (c. 529–333 BC) to celebrate the city's recovered wealth and stature, the temple complex was greatly expanded by Bodashtart, Yatan-milk and later monarchs. Because the continued expansion spanned many centuries of alternating independence and foreign hegemony, the sanctuary features a wealth of different architectural and decorative styles and influences.”

>> As I said before, I do not agree about the date of construction. It’s NOT constructed under Eshmunazar II but before him, much before. The rest in the paragraph is correct.

“The sanctuary consists of an esplanade and a grand court limited by a huge limestone terrace wall that supports a monumental podium which was once topped by Eshmun's Greco-Persian style marble temple. The sanctuary features a series of ritual ablution basins fed by canals channeling water from the Asclepius river (modern Awali) and from the sacred "Ydll" spring; these installations were used for therapeutic and purificatory purposes that characterize the cult of Eshmun. The sanctuary site has yielded many artifacts of value, especially those inscribed with Phoenician texts, providing valuable insight into the site's history and that of ancient Sidon.”

>> We are suspecting the water to have curative characteristics; as in we think there is some type of natural spring near the temple or in it’s where curing type of water came out. We’ve already seen such temples in the Andean Region and we know they exist worldwide and this practice still exists nowadays, even in Christianity = loads of Christians visits Lourdes for pilgrimage and submerge themselves in the curative waters in hope to get healed or to get a blessing from the Virgin Mary. So this practice is very common and it’s been around for a very long time. It’s not harmful in anyway. It’s just a type of “natural” cure.

“The Eshmun Temple was improved during the early Roman Empire with a colonnade street, but declined after earthquakes and fell into oblivion as Christianity replaced polytheism and its large limestone blocks were used to build later structures. The temple site was rediscovered in 1900 by local treasure hunters who stirred the curiosity of international scholars. Maurice Dunand, a French archaeologist, thoroughly excavated the site from 1963 until the beginning of the Lebanese Civil War in 1975. After the end of the hostilities and the retreat of Israel from Southern Lebanon, the site was rehabilitated and inscribed to the World Heritage Site tentative list.”

>> Yes, the site is very damaged for all the above mentioned reasons. I want to draw attention to the date of 1963 when Dunand “excavated” the site. And no one knows what the Israelis did to the site or if they dug up artifacts from there, stole them, reburied them in Israel and pretended they are Jewish artifacts. You should suspect anything and everything.

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aeb21a  No.14745847

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>>14745836

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“Eshmun

Eshmun was the Phoenician god of healing and renewal of life; he was one of the most important divinities of the Phoenician pantheon and the main male divinity of Sidon. Originally a nature divinity, and a god of spring vegetation, Eshmun was equated to Babylonian deity Tammuz. His role later expanded within the Phoenician pantheon, and he gained celestial and cosmic attributes.”

>> Only the first sentence is correct. The rest is made up. As we’ve seen just now when taking a look at Eshmun, we have no iconography of him. So how did they manage to know he is the god of spring vegetation? Is Asclepius connected to vegetation and spring? Or only medicine? This is all made up anons. There is nothing = not a SINGLE indication tying Eshmun to Tammuz.

“The myth of Eshmun was related by the sixth century Syrian Neoplatonist philosopher Damascius and ninth century Patriarch of Constantinople, Photius. They recount that Eshmun, a young man from Beirut, was hunting in the woods when Astarte saw him and was stricken by his beauty. She harassed him with her amorous pursuit until he emasculated himself with an axe and died. The grieving goddess revived Eshmun and transported him to the heavens where she made him into a god of heaven.”

>> First of all look at the incredibly late date. We cannot rely on such sources, only God knows where they got this information from. Second, if you read closely, this story is not about Eshmun, but about the Evil Couple. Here, they are equating Eshmun to the Evil One based on….what exactly? = Nothing. It’s based on hearsay. If we had at least one Phoenician artifact with Eshmun depicted on it along with his symbol, then I might say this or that, including associating him to Asclepius or to the Evil One. But how can anyone associate Eshmun to anyone when we have so far ZERO iconography of him. We simply don’t know how he looks like nor do we know his symbols. So how come all of this information came to be? This is a pure made-up story here. Nothing less, nothing more.

“From a historical perspective, the first written mention of Eshmun goes back to 754 BC, the date of the signing of the treaty between Assyrian king Ashur-nirari V and Mati'el, king of Arpad; Eshmun figures in the text as a patron of the treaty.”

>> Seems this treaty was done under the patronage or “blessing” of Eshmun. This is common practice in ancient times to have a deity mentioned in such paperwork and we still do it nowadays when we mention God, Christ, the Virgin and the Saints when we write down important documents.

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f4a72f  No.14751558

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>>14745847

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This treaty dates back to 754 B.C. but this doesn’t mean the cult of Eshmun dates back to this period. It indicates the cult was already known and it became widespread and it was recognized by both kings to have him as a patron of the treaty. This indicates the cult is older because it takes time for cults to spread as in it’s not done overnight. And it takes an even longer time for him to become a patron of anything because it takes much more time for a deity/cult to become famous and widely used, recognized by the people, even more by kings.

And “for now”, yes it seems this is the old written mention of Eshmun; but I’m saying “for now”. Why? Because we haven’t found the Phoencian archives yet and when we do…what will we find in it? ^_~

“Eshmun was identified with Asclepius as a result of the Hellenic influence over Phoenicia; the earliest evidence of this equation is given by coins from Amrit and Acre from the third century BC. This fact is exemplified by the Hellenized names of the Awali river which was dubbed Asclepius fluvius, and the Eshmun Temple's surrounding groves, known as the groves of Asclepius.”

>> Read carefully this paragraph, it’s what I’ve been trying to explain to you about the influence of the Greek culture in Phoenicia. And take a good look at that date. See how many centuries had passed?

“History

Historical background

In the 9th century BC, the Assyrian king Ashurnasirpal II conquered the Lebanon mountain range and its coastal cities. The new sovereigns exacted tribute from Sidon, along with every other Phoenician city. These payments stimulated Sidon's search for new means of provisioning and furthered Phoenician emigration and expansion, which peaked in the 8th century BC. When Assyrian king Sargon II died in 705 BC, the Sidonian king Luli joined with the Egyptians and Judah in an unsuccessful rebellion against Assyrian rule, but was forced to flee to Kition (modern Larnaca in Cyprus) with the arrival of the Assyrian army headed by Sennacherib, Sargon II's son and successor. Sennacherib instated Ittobaal on the throne of Sidon and reimposed the annual tribute. When Abdi-Milkutti ascended to Sidon's throne in 680 BC, he also rebelled against the Assyrians. In response, the Assyrian king Esarhaddon laid siege to the city. Abdi-Milkutti was captured and beheaded in 677 BC after a three-year siege, while his city was destroyed and renamed Kar-Ashur-aha-iddina (the harbor of Esarhaddon). Sidon was stripped of its territory, which was awarded to Baal I, the king of rival Tyre and loyal vassal to Esarhaddon. Baal I and Esarhaddon signed a treaty in 675 in which Eshmun's name features as one of the deities invoked as guarantors of the covenant.”

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f4a72f  No.14751571

File: 53818daab76a94f⋯.png (33.25 KB, 466x400, 233:200, Plan_of_the_Temple_of_Eshm….png)

>>14751558

(Please read from the start)

>> Here Baal is not used as a word but as a name; as in kings of the Phoenician City-States were either named Baal or had Baal as a component of their name. This is no strange thing and we also have it in Mesopotamia and in Ancient Egypt where it’s very common to have the Pharaoh either named after the deity or have the name of the god as a component of his own name; like for example Pharaoh Seti = comes from Seth. And please anons, don’t go thinking they were Satan worshipers simply because their name was Baal or had Baal in it. Remember the word Baal means Lord.

“Construction

Sidon returned to its former level of prosperity while Tyre was besieged for 13 years (586–573 BC) by the Chaldean king Nebuchadnezzar II. Nevertheless, the Sidonian king was still held in exile at the court of Babylon. Sidon reclaimed its former standing as Phoenicia's chief city in the Achaemenid Empire (c.529–333 BC). During this period, Xerxes I awarded king Eshmunazar II with the Sharon plain for employing Sidon's fleet in his service during the Greco-Persian Wars.”

>> See how (((they))) insert (((their))) history and mingle it with the one of the Phoenicians by using the Israeli name of that plain? But what is it called in Phoenicians? I bet it had a Phoenician name but it was called in modern days Sharon plains. This is how (((they))) try to gain legitimacy and claim to the land = by pretending the plain was named back then Sharon, but the truth is…we don’t know what it was called back then. Maybe it had an Ancient Egyptian name since the region was under the Egyptian influence for hundreds of years before the Persians came. See what I mean? By using the modern day Israeli name for that plain, (((they))) are inserting in your head it was called like this back then, but the truth is we don’t know how it was called.

And it was very natural and very common for sovereigns to punish and reward their vassals all depending on the service they provided; if it was good, riches were given, land included, as well as rare luxury items or titles, even princesses in marriage = all depending on the level of loyalty and service provided. But…if the vassal did something wrong, like start a rebellion or a coup but was caught by the king, then he, his entire family and his entire clan would be beheaded as well as his properties confiscated. Depending on the crime, sometimes his titles would be revoked and lessen in degree = making him of a lower rank.

As for the rise and fall of Tyre to the standing of chief City-State of Phoenicia: well, this is true, for centuries some Phoenician City-States were rivals one towards the other for the title of the number one city or the “chief” City-State. It was a rivalry and it showed itself in military strength, trade, number of ships, wealth, opulence, influence etc. So a lot of Phoenician City-States competed and the title was held by many but for some time = until another City-State rose higher and snatched the title from the holder.

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f4a72f  No.14751600

File: 68246b6b1640c81⋯.jpg (24.81 KB, 286x359, 286:359, Ugarit_Aleppo_distance.jpg)

>>14751571

(Please read from the start)

“Eshmunazar II displayed his new-found wealth by constructing numerous temples to Sidonian divinities. Inscriptions found on the king's sarcophagus reveal that he and his mother, Amashtart, built temples to the gods of Sidon, including the Temple of Eshmun by the "Ydll source near the cistern".”

>> Here, I’ve got some explaining to do:

1 – The sarcophagus of Eshmunazar II is on page 2. See how the influence of Ancient Egypt was still in Phoenicia? This is what I was trying to explain just above when I said that plain could have had a name from Ancient Egypt from all we know and it was never called like that, until modern days.

2 – I have another theory about what happened to the temple because of the name of the king of the City-State of Sidon. But before I go there, I want to ask anons to go back to page 14 and take a look at the first map. As I’ve explained back then, the geography “forces” the traveler from the Armenian plateau to take that road if they want to reach the East Coast of the Mediterranean Sea. This is the shortest way to get there, but we can also take the longer road by going downstream Euphrates, then joining the caravan route towards the West till you reach the coast (same page – map 2).

The first map is the correct route used by the survivors of the Flood to reach the fastest way the East coast of the Med Sea. On that route you will notice Aleppo is located in the area which is totally logical for survivors whom came down from the Armenian plateau to settle in there and built a City-State around 5000 B.C. which fits perfectly with the chronological spine of the Euphrates River. Ur and Uruk were built around a thousand year and more later because they are downstream Euphrates. The more you go upstream Euphrates, the older the settlements are. If Aleppo was built around 5000 B.C. and Ur was built around (approximatively) 3800 B.C., then it took around 1200 years for the settlers to get from the latitude of Aleppo to that of Ur. All according to the dates given by the Main Stream History of course.

But….no one talks or says anything about the Phoenicians City-States and when they were built. When you look at the first major = big Phoenician City-State, the ones furthest North = the closest geographically to Aleppo = Ugarit. Ugarit is known as being the last Metropolis = City-States of Phoenicia. We didn’t find any other Phoenician City-State North to Ugarit and its territory. It’s the last one to the North.

So when we look at Ugarit, it was founded around 6500 B.C., of course according to Main Stream History. Which makes Ugarit older than Aleppo. There is a possibility that the survivors settled near the coast first = Ugarit. Then, seeing how Aleppo’s locationt is at a strategic crossroad for caravans and travelers, some survivors went back and settled there. This is a possibility. Another possibility could be the Main Stream History got the dates wrong intentionally or unintentionally. That’s to be checked out.

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f4a72f  No.14751617

File: 34fcf7f7652b7da⋯.jpg (124.48 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, Megalithic_wall_Phoenician….jpg)

File: d496cddf787955d⋯.jpg (255.39 KB, 1000x666, 500:333, Batroun_Phoenician_megalit….jpg)

File: 002191c088c97c1⋯.png (751.25 KB, 597x520, 597:520, Trilithon_of_Baalbek.png)

>>14751600

(Please read from the start)

The next biggest Phoenician City-State is Arwad but in the Main Stream History, they tell us it was founded somewhere in the second millennium B.C. So we have a huge chronological gap here between the foundation of Ugarit and Arwad which makes no sense. I can understand if it took a thousand years for the population to grow and some having to resettle somewhere else…but not this long. I think Arwad is much much older than what we are told, just look at its megalithic wall. Then comes the City-State of Gebal = Byblos which was built somewhere 7000 and 8000 B.C. – no mention of Batroun and its megalithic Phoenician wall. There are 3 megalithic structures built by the Phoenicians: the two I just mentioned and the one in Baalbek. This is as far as we know, but there might be more. None in the Main Stream History and the Alternative History tells you about these megalithic sites, because they were built by the Phoenicians. It’s hush hushed.

Anyways, when it comes to Sidon, it’s said to have been settled in first around 3 millennium B.C. and it was the “parent” City-State of Tyre; as in it was some Sidonians whom resettled further down South and created the City-State of Tyre.

What I think? I think this entire chronology given to us by the Main Stream History is nothing but B.S. in order to hide how old the Phoenician City-States are. I think the correct date is given to Gebal = Byblos as being a Phoenician settlement = founded by them somewhere around 7000 – 8000 B.C. I also think it might be much older than this. Why? Because of Neith = remember she traveled there and stayed there for a while; as in she lived there. And the Evil Lady attacked the Phoenician City-States = in plural, not a single City-State. This means these City-States already existed when she attacked them. And all of this took place when Ancient Egypt was composed of many City-States and there were no Upper or Lower Kingdoms yet. All of this happened when Neith and the Evil Lady were still alive.

Gobekli Tepe (another megalithic site) is estimated to have been established around 9000 B.C. if my memory is not betraying me (page 1 221). Byblos is just a tad younger = 1000 years (estimation) younger than Gobekli Tepe. Older than Ur and Uruk….this doesn’t make these 2 Mesopotamian City-States the cradle of Civilization at all. In fact, it puts Gebal in that position along with the other Phoenician City-States. But this will never ever be acknowledged simply because it’s about the Phoenicians. And if the reader didn’t guess it yet, the Bloodlines hate to (((their))) core the Phoenicians. It will never be admitted that the Phoenicians are the oldest City-States = civilization in the Middle East, as equally old as Ancient Egypt, maybe even a tad older. Mesopotamia, is considered to be rather young compared to how old the Phoenician City-States are going to turn out to be.

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f4a72f  No.14751649

>>14751617

(Please read from the start)

You think I’m talking out of the blues, just like that. Well, please dear reader, go online and check out the megalithic structures in Arwad, in Batroun and in Baalbek, all 3 are known as being Phoenician City-States. If Tiwanaku with its megalithic blocks was built by the Flood survivors as we discussed in that section, then, doesn’t this mean ALL megalithic structures worldwide were built by the Flood survivors? If Tiwanaku was built by the survivors using Atlantean technology, then, doesn’t this mean megalithic structures worldwide were also built by that same technology? Same thing goes for Gobekli Tepe and all the other megalithic sites in the Middle East….and amazingly, we have (at least) 3 of them built by the Phoenicians and they are kept in the dark on purpose by the Main Stream History, the Alternative History and the media worldwide.

Oh! And we know that there was a Sebetti king in Tiwanaku….and we have located another Sebetti ruler = the Evil lady to have lived in the region/area of where Gobekli Tepe was, at least for some time, before she moved to Mesopotamia. We already know the megalithic presence in Ancient Egypt as well as that of Neith….another megalithic site with another Sebetti queen living there. Can anons make a list of what are the common points of all these 3 places? If megalithic construction points/ indicates the presence of a Sebetti ruler then….what does it mean to have 3 megalithic constructions built by the Phoenicians? Doesn’t that mean there was a Sebetti ruler in Phoenicia? Not convinced, then ask yourself why did the Evil Lady attack the Phoenician City-States? And then why Neith, left Ancient Egypt and settled down in Gebal for some time? Think anons, think. Put 2 and 2 together.

Not enough, then please go back and read Osiris (page 835) where we were reading about the etymology of the name of Osiris. Back then, it’s correct to say that Osiris is the Greek form of the name. But the original authentic name in Ancient Egyptian was WSJR – “Egyptologists have vocalized the name in various ways, such as Asar, Ausar, Ausir, Wesir, Usir, or Usire” – read my comments back then. It can also be vocalized as Azor or Azar. The trick is in the vowels. This is why we have so many various ways to vocalize this name.

If you go search the meaning of Azar, they will either refer you to the Persian meaning = scarlet. Or they will tell you it has a Hebrew origin and it means “to help”. But this is misleading and a lie. They are misleading you by making you believe the name started either in Persia or in Judaism. It didn’t in either. It exists in Persian and in Hebrew, but it didn’t start there. When we read about Osiris, it’s clear the word existed there the oldest on record = written. But no one tells you there is use of it in Phoenician texts and they do not tell you how trendy it was to use it in the names, mostly of Phoenicians kings, where it was attached to a deity name = making it a composite name. Like let’s take the case of Eshmunazor = it’s composed of Eshmun and we have Azor attached to it. This name means = “to help Eshmun” or “by the Help of Eshmun”. We give 2 possible explanations to this name: it either means the king got the help of Eshmun, his blessing – or it means the king is the helper of Eshmun; since the Phoenicians had also a King-Priest system; like what we seen in many civilizations and cultures in this thread.

So no dear reader, it is a lie to say the word started with the Hebrew/Jews or Persians. The truth is, this is most probably Atlantean. And it was used by many Atlantean survivors. This has its root in Atlantis, not the Jews. But (((they))) want you to think it is associated to the Jews in order to elevate the rank of the Jews into making them the Holy descendants of the Atlantean Sebetti rulers; as in this is a prestige issue and this makes (((them))) a special people in (((their))) twisted sick minds. That’s (((their))) arrogance kicking right in.

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f4a72f  No.14751668

>>14751649

(Please read from the start)

So the use of the name Azar/Azor indicates its Atlantean origin which in turn indicates the Phoenicians (whom used this frequently and had it in the names of their kings) were ancient, older than admitted. The use of the name Azar was only done by the ones whom held the memory of Atlantis and that is done uniquely by the survivors of the Flood. Anons will ask and wonder why I’m saying this has its origin in Antlantis and I’m not saying this has its origin in Ancient Egypt since it’s the oldest there and it dates back obviously to the pre-dynastic times = very ancient. I used to think for a long long time that the origin of the name was truly Ancient Egypt and it was transferred to the East Coast of the Med Sea via trade routes = exchanging good and culture. That is….until I came to this board and I lurked for a long time. And it’s thanks to the help of a few friends in here, very nice people whom helped me see clear, that I managed to grab a piece of the puzzle that was escaping me for decades. When I found that piece, I finally understood that the origin of Azar/Azor is Atlantean, not Ancient Egypt. If you are reading, thank you guys for your precious help. You have no idea just how much you helped me put the big chunks together while we were digging together.

Let’s go back to Eshmun – Azor. For a king of the City-State of Sidon to be named: “to help Eshmun” = the servant of Eshmun, or “by the help of Eshmun” = cured/healed (=medical help) of Eshmun; receiving his healing blessings. This means the cult of Eshmun was very popular, well know and spread when Eshmunazar I was born. He was born, then he was named this way. They gave him the name of the deity because he is either supposed to serve as a future King-Priest the deity; or they gave him the name of the deity whom helped cure him when he was a child and he got sick. It doesn’t matter which it is precisely, because either way, it points us in the same direction = the cult of Eshmun near Sidon was well established, way before the birth of Eshmunazor I. And in this Wikipedia page they tell you the Temple of Eshmun near Sidon was built by Eshmounazar II (grandson of Eshmunazar I). Which in incorrect. The cult was already established and it’s obvious from the name of Eshmunazar I that the “healing” powers of the god Eshmun were already known by the people = many people went to the temple for the curative powers of the water = it was already a healing destination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eshmunazar_I

“Etymology

Eshmunazar is the Latinized form of the Phoenician theophoric name ‎, meaning "Eshmun helps".”

>> Laugh anons, laugh; because here (((they))) are discreetly admitting that Azar is not a Hebrew/Jewish name originally. The Jews took it either from Ancient Egypt or from the Phoenicians = both are (((their))) neighbors.

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7bf5a6  No.14758922

File: 48938cedad12b73⋯.jpg (270.05 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, Eshmun_temple_South.jpg)

>>14751668

(Please read from the start)

I know this may be a bit difficult to grasp for greenhorns in this type of research so I’m going to ask you to go dig yourselves and check things out. I’ve already given you what you need to look at. It took me a considerable amount of time to get here.

Another indicator that the Phoenician City-States are much older than what we are told is a big piece of evidence = Pharaoh Khufu’s ship. Check it out online and when it was built. It’s all made of Cedar woods and the boat building tech is Phoenicians, but no one wants to admit it. It was styled to fit Ancient Egypt. The chances are extremely high the Phoenicians were the ones whom built this barge. And to be commissioned for such a great task as to build a barge for the Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt which he will use in the Afterlife points that the Phoenicians were the top of the tops in this domain. You don’t reach this reputation in a couple of years or a decade anons, this takes time to be established. The Khufu barge was built by a Phoenician City-State.

Some might ask me how does building a boat indicate they are old? It takes time anons, it takes a lot of time to reach that level, not just in technique but in reputation as well. And don’t forget the survivors of the Flood were struggling to find food and shelter, so it took them time to re-adapt and make use of what they have around them. They had the knowledge, but not the tools = everything was destroyed during the Cataclysm. Like how nowadays surgeon cannot operate a patient without his surgical room and equipment. See what I mean? So for the Phoenicians to be able to show this high level of engineering and technique…I can assure you, they didn’t pick it from trees or plants. This is ancient Atlantean knowledge which we don’t see anywhere else in the world, mostly not in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, which lacked the wood by the way. This indicates that there was a high number of Atlantean engineers and experts settled in what is now known as Phoenicia.

I personally believe someday, in the future, we are going to discover that the Phoenician City-States (the oldest of them) are extremely old, as old as the City-States in Ancient Egypt before the formation of the Upper and Lower Kingdoms as in during pre-pre-dynastic times. For several hundreds of years, most structures in Phoenicia were built in wood, until up to one point where they rebuilt them in stone. The first temple of Eshmun near Sidon was like that. The future generations are going to find out it was originally built in wood. Then at some point, a small stone temple replaced it. Many years passed, till that first stone temple was destroyed, probably at the hands of an invader like what we read a few pages ago. It’s on the ruins (or next to them) of the first stone temple or a partially destroyed first stone temple that a second stone temple was built. As centuries passed and the cult grew, they added extension parts to the second stone temple, all the way till Roman period. I believe the temple of Eshmun didn’t reveal all of its secrets YET.

I know I talked a lot there and explained a lot of things that are interconnected. I hope now anons understand why it’s a lie that the Eshmun temple was built by Eshmunazar II and that maybe a section was renovated or rebuilt by Eshmunazar II. There is a chance that the cella might be part of the first stone temple which is much much older than what we are told. If it’s not the cella, there is a section, at least a wall from the first stone temple still existing when the second stone temple was put in place. Unfortunately the site is heavily damaged and neglected, due to looting, weather, war etc. It’s going to be hard to untangle this, but it’s possible if there is a will.

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7bf5a6  No.14758930

File: af8ecf91b10da7e⋯.jpg (238.13 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Inscription_in_situ_of_kin….jpg)

File: fe964235ad48e63⋯.png (23.88 KB, 572x147, 572:147, Bodashtart_1.png)

>>14758922

(Please read from the start)

Let’s go back to where I left off with the Wikipedia page:

“As the Bodashtart inscriptions on the foundations of the monumental podium attest, construction of the sanctuary's podium did not begin until the reign of King Bodashtart. The first set of inscriptions bears the name of Bodashtart alone, while the second contains his name and that of the crown prince Yatan-milk. A Phoenician inscription, located 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) upstream from the temple, that dates to the 7th year of Bodashtart's reign, alludes to water adduction works from the Awali river to the "Ydll" source that was used for ritual purification at the temple.”

>> See anons, this is a good indicator how it worked in Phoenicia = each ruler came and added a new part, regardless of the era = period. This is why most of the time in Phoenician City-States we have one layer over another layer and one section on next to another. Check out Gebal = Byblos to see the Phoenician next to the Roman, next to Crusades etc. Remember layer over layer and section next to a section.

Oh! And don’t go “imagining” things because the name Ashtart was in the name of the king whom started the construction of the Podium/Tribune. Remember this is a theophoric name and it’s an indicator that by that time, the cult of Astarte = the Evil Lady, had already spread to Phoenicia and infiltrated their culture.

“Roman era and Decline

The Eshmun sanctuary was damaged by an earthquake in the fourth century BC, which demolished the marble temple atop the podium; this structure was not rebuilt but many chapels and temples were later annexed at the base of the podium.

The temple site remained a place of pilgrimage in the classical antiquity during the early Roman Empire and until the advent of Christianity, when the cult of Eshmun was banned during the Persecution of pagans in the late Roman Empire and a Christian church was built at the temple site across the Roman street from the podium. Remnants and mosaic floors of a Byzantine church can still be seen on the site.”

>> Some pictures of the mosaics are attached to the next page.

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7bf5a6  No.14758931

File: af8ecf91b10da7e⋯.jpg (238.13 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Inscription_in_situ_of_kin….jpg)

File: fe964235ad48e63⋯.png (23.88 KB, 572x147, 572:147, Bodashtart_1.png)

>>14758922

(Please read from the start)

Let’s go back to where I left off with the Wikipedia page:

“As the Bodashtart inscriptions on the foundations of the monumental podium attest, construction of the sanctuary's podium did not begin until the reign of King Bodashtart. The first set of inscriptions bears the name of Bodashtart alone, while the second contains his name and that of the crown prince Yatan-milk. A Phoenician inscription, located 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) upstream from the temple, that dates to the 7th year of Bodashtart's reign, alludes to water adduction works from the Awali river to the "Ydll" source that was used for ritual purification at the temple.”

>> See anons, this is a good indicator how it worked in Phoenicia = each ruler came and added a new part, regardless of the era = period. This is why most of the time in Phoenician City-States we have one layer over another layer and one section on next to another. Check out Gebal = Byblos to see the Phoenician next to the Roman, next to Crusades etc. Remember layer over layer and section next to a section.

Oh! And don’t go “imagining” things because the name Ashtart was in the name of the king whom started the construction of the Podium/Tribune. Remember this is a theophoric name and it’s an indicator that by that time, the cult of Astarte = the Evil Lady, had already spread to Phoenicia and infiltrated their culture.

“Roman era and Decline

The Eshmun sanctuary was damaged by an earthquake in the fourth century BC, which demolished the marble temple atop the podium; this structure was not rebuilt but many chapels and temples were later annexed at the base of the podium.

The temple site remained a place of pilgrimage in the classical antiquity during the early Roman Empire and until the advent of Christianity, when the cult of Eshmun was banned during the Persecution of pagans in the late Roman Empire and a Christian church was built at the temple site across the Roman street from the podium. Remnants and mosaic floors of a Byzantine church can still be seen on the site.”

>> Some pictures of the mosaics are attached to the next page.

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7bf5a6  No.14758941

File: 61f4620f569ec00⋯.jpg (546.33 KB, 839x1041, 839:1041, the_temple_of_eshmun_is_an….jpg)

File: 319cba15608edac⋯.jpg (74.05 KB, 800x533, 800:533, roman_mosaics_temple_eshmu….jpg)

File: f2bc08fae44c979⋯.jpg (98.78 KB, 800x533, 800:533, roman_mosaics_temple_eshmu….jpg)

File: 6e883a6a4b450ef⋯.jpg (131.22 KB, 800x533, 800:533, roman_mosaics_temple_eshmu….jpg)

>>14758931

(Please read from the start)

“A Roman colonnade was built in the third century, probably by emperor Septimius Severus, and a Roman Villa showed a period of renewed relative importance for the city during the late period of Phoenicia under Roman rule. Furthermore, within the original Phoenician temple site the Romans added the processional stairway, the basins for ablutions and a nymphaeum with pictorial mosaics, that are still largely intact. Worn statuettes of three nymphs stand in the niches of a Roman fountain.

Another earthquake hit Sidon around 570 AD; Antoninus of Piacenza, an Italian Christian pilgrim, described the city as partly in ruins. For many years after the disappearance of the cult of Eshmun, the sanctuary site was used as a quarry: Emir Fakhr-al-Din II, for example, used its massive blocks to build a bridge over the Awali river in the 17th century.

The site later fell into oblivion until the 19th century.

Modern discovery

Between 1737 and 1742, Richard Pococke, an English anthropologist, toured the Middle East and wrote of what he thought were ruins of defensive walls built with 3.7-metre (12 ft) stone blocks near the Awali river. When the French orientalist Ernest Renan visited the area in 1860, he noticed that the Awali bridge abutments were built of finely rusticated blocks that originated from an earlier structure. He also noted in his report, Mission de Phénicie, that a local treasure hunter told him of a large edifice near the Awali bridge.

In 1900, local clandestine treasure hunters digging at the Eshmun Temple site haphazardly discovered inscriptions carved onto the temple's walls. This discovery stirred the interest of Theodore Macridy, curator of the Museum of Constantinople, who cleared the temple remains between 1901 and 1903. Wilhelm Von Landau also excavated the site between 1903 and 1904. In 1920, Gaston Contenau headed a team of archaeologists who surveyed the temple complex. The first extensive archaeological excavation revealing the Eshmun Temple remains was undertaken by Maurice Dunand between 1963 and 1975. Archaeological evidence shows that the site was occupied from the seventh century BC to the eighth century AD.”

>> Notice how we don’t have a single mention of what’s in these excavation reports or findings? Did these “explorers” take any interesting pieces or artifacts with them when they returned from where they came from? Whom financed and supervised their expeditions? I’m just being curious.

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7bf5a6  No.14758953

>>14758941

(Please read from the start)

“After 1975

During the Lebanese Civil War and the Israeli occupation of South Lebanon (1985–2000), the temple site was neglected and was invaded by vegetation overgrowth; it was cleared and recovered its former condition after the Israeli withdrawal. Today the Eshmun sanctuary can be visited all year round and free of charge, it is accessible from an exit ramp off the main Southern Lebanon highway near Sidon's northern entrance. The site holds a particular archaeological importance since it is the best preserved Phoenician site in Lebanon; it was added to the UNESCO World Heritage Tentative List's Cultural category on July 1, 1996.

In literature, the temple of Eshmun figures in Nabil Saleh's 2009 novel, The Curse of Ezekiel as the setting where Bomilcar falls in love and rescues princess Chiboulet from the evil design of one of the temple's priests.

Location

A number of ancient texts mention the Eshmun Temple and its location. The Phoenician inscriptions on the sarcophagus of Eshmunazar II, a Sidonian king, commemorate the construction of a "house" for the "holy prince" Eshmun by the king and his mother, queen Amashtart, at the "Ydll source by the cistern". Dionysius Periegetes, an ancient Greek travel writer, identified the Eshmun temple by the Bostrenos River, and Antonin de Plaisance, a 6th-century AD Italian pilgrim recorded the shrine as near the river Asclepius fluvius. Strabo and other Sidonian sources describe the sanctuary and its surrounding "sacred forests" of Asclepius, the Hellenized name of Eshmun, in written texts.

>> We’ve already seen what is written in the paragraph. It is important to note that the text on the sarcophagus of Eshmunazor II was translated by (((their))) experts and based = as in they relied on Hebrew for the translation in some cases. You are going to find differences between each translation depending on whom translated it. Relying on Hebrew to translate a Phoenician text speaks volumes of itself, but if you are not convinced whom has been running the show, then go back to page 1 329 and see for yourselves whom is the group of “experts” whom worked on the artifacts and in the excavations. This is why you should be careful, mostly if they rely on Hebrew to translate a Phoenician text. See how (((they))) always superpose the Jewish patchwork culture on the Phoenician one, in order to make the later disappear. (((They))) keep on telling the public there is no such thing as Phoencian civilization and culture but the truth is the other way around =there is no Jewish culture, it’s calqued on the Phoenician culture and then (((they))) collected parts from all the cultures/civilizations (((they))) encountered and (((they))) created a great fairy tale like patchwork story about (((themselves))).

I’m going to say something that not many readers will understand the depth of it and even fewer will believe me: the Jews have always wanted to be whom the Phoenicians are and the Jews always wanted to have what the Phoenicians have.

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7bf5a6  No.14758960

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>>14758953

(Please read from the start)

“Located about 40 kilometres (25 mi) south of Beirut and 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) northeast of Sidon, the Eshmun Temple sits on the southern bank of the modern Awali river, previously referred to as Bostrenos or Asclepius fluvius in ancient text. Citrus groves, known as Bustan el-Sheikh (Arabic: ‎, the grove of the Sheikh), occupy the ancient "sacred forests" of Asclepius and are a favorite summer picnic location for locals.

Architecture and description

Built under Babylonian rule (605–539 BC), the oldest monument at the site is a pyramidal building resembling a ziggurat that includes an access ramp to a water cistern. Fragments of marble column bases with Torus moldings and facetted columns found east of the podium are also attributed to the Babylonian era.”

>> What are the odds there is an ancient tell upon which the ziggurat was built?

“The pyramidal structure was superimposed during Persian rule by a massive ashlar podium constructed from heavily bossed limestone blocks that measured more than 3 metres (9.8 ft) across by 1 metre (3.3 ft)thick, which were laid down in courses 1-metre (3.3 ft) high. The podium stands 22 metres (72 ft) high, runs50 metres (160 ft) into the hillside, and boasts a 70-metre (230 ft) wide facade. The terrace atop of the podium was once covered by a Greco-Persian style marble temple probably built by Ionic artisans around 500 BC. The marble temple has been reduced to a few remaining stone fragments due to theft.

During the Hellenistic period, the sanctuary was extended from the base of the podium across the valley. To the east base of the podium stands a large chapel, 10.5 by 11.5 metres (34 ft × 38 ft), dating to the 4th century BC. The chapel was adorned with a paved pool and a large stone "Throne of Astarte" carved of a single block of granite in the Egyptian style; it is flanked by two sphinx figures and surrounded by two lion sculptures. The throne, attributed to the Sidonian goddess Astarte, rests against the chapel wall, which is embellished by relief sculptures of hunting scenes. The once important Astarte basin lost its function during the 2nd century AD and was filled with earth and statue fragments. The west base contains another 4th-century BC chapel—centered on a bull protome topped capital—that remains preserved at the National Museum of Beirut.”

>> Most of the artifacts that could be carried away were taken to the National Museum in Beirut where they are in exhibit and visitors can see them. I want to draw anons attention to how LATE the cult of Astarte was “injected” into the temple of Eshmun = Hellenistic era. It means there was no cult of Astarte taking place in that temple for thousands of years, till the Seleucids ruled = another Bloodline family. As I explained before to anons while talking about the Evil Lady: the Lebanese mountain range played the role of a shield which slowed down the spread of the cult of the Evil Lady into the heart of Phoenicia. It got into the North and the South of Phoenician faster because there was no natural barrier there to slow down the progress of the spread done by caravans, migrants and nomad priests like the one we encountered while taking a look at the Evil Lady.

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7bf5a6  No.14758963

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>>14758960

(Please read from the start)

“Widely known as the "Tribune of Eshmun" because of its shape, the altar of Eshmun is a white marble structure dating to the 4th century BC. It is 2.15 metres (7.1 ft) long by 2.26 metres (7.4 ft) wide and 2.17 metres (7.1 ft) tall. Unearthed in 1963 by Maurice Dunand, it stands on a limestone socleplated with marble blocks that rest against a retaining wall. The altar is adorned with Hellenistic style relief sculptures and is framed by decorative moldings, one of which divides the altar into two distinct registers of symmetrical composition. The upper register portrays 18 Greek deities, including two charioteers surrounding the Greek god Apollo, who is depicted playing a cithara (a type of lyre). The lower register honors Dionysus, who leads his thiasos (his ecstatic retinue) in a dance to the music of pipe and cithara players. The Tribune is displayed at the National Museum of Beirut.

Northeast of the site, another 3rd century BC temple stands adjacent to the Astarte chapel. Its 22-metre (72 ft)façade is built with large limestone blocks and displays a two-register relief decoration illustrating a drunken revelry in honor of Dionysus, the Greek god of wine. Among the temple reliefs, one shows a man attempting to seize a large rooster which was the common sacrificial animal for Eshmun-Asclepius.

The Eshmun Temple complex comprises an elaborate hydraulic installation channeling water from "Ydll" spring that is made up of an intricate system of water canals, a series of retaining basins, sacred ablution basins and paved pools. This system demonstrates the importance of ritual ablutions in Phoenician therapeutic cults.”

>> ELABORATE HYDRAULIC INSTALLATION = where have we seen before in this thread such elaborate hydraulic installations? This is ancient engineering anons. Those whom tell you there is no Phoenician civilization or culture….think again. And…did you catch it: “importance of ritual ablutions in Phoenicians THERAPEUTIC cults” = therapeutic, not sacrificing. Healing, not killing.

“Later vestiges date from the Roman epoch and include a colonnaded road lined with shops. Of the large marble columns bordering the Roman street only fragments and bases remain. The Romans also built a monumental staircase adorned with mosaic patterns that leads to the top of the podium. To the right of the Roman road, near the entrance of the site stands a nymphaeum with niches where statues of the nymphs once stood. The floor of the nymphaeum is covered by a mosaic depicting the Maenads. Across the colonnaded road, facing the nymphaeum, are the ruins of a Roman villa; only the villa's courtyard has survived along with the remains of a mosaic depicting the four seasons. To the right of the processional Roman staircase stands a cubic altar, also of Roman construction. Other Roman period structures include two columns of a great portico leading to pools and other cultic installations.”

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7bf5a6  No.14758975

>>14758963

(Please read from the start)

“Function

Eshmun's cult enjoyed a particular importance at Sidon as he was the chief deity after 500 BC. Aside from the extramural sanctuary at Bustan el-Sheikh, Eshmun also had a temple within the city. The extramural Eshmun Temple was associated with purification and healing; ritual lustral ablutions were performed in the sanctuary's sacred basins supplemented by running water from the Asclepius River and the "Ydll" spring water which was considered to have a sacred character and therapeutic quality. The healing attributions of Eshmun were combined with his divine consort Astarte's fertilizing powers; the latter had an annex chapel with a sacred paved pool within the Eshmun sanctuary. Pilgrims from all over the ancient world flocked to the Eshmun Temple leaving votive traces of their devotion and proof of their cure. There is evidence that from the 3rd century BC onwards there have been attempts to Hellenize the cult of Eshmun and to associate him with his Greek counterpart Asclepius, but the sanctuary retained its curative function.”

>> The first sentence is nothing but pure lie and proof of this is the name of Eshmunazor I = the cult, including the temple, already existed when he was born. It’s very very very important to note the “therapeutic quality” of the cult of Eshmun.

The later insertion of Astarte is great proof she was never part of the cult of Eshmun. Because of mutation and confusion, some supposed smart person in Antiquity thought Eshmun was the Evil One, which makes Astarte his consort. No…the Evil One had nothing to do with the cult of Eshmun, there is nothing to tilt it that way. Besides, the Evil One liked to kill people and he was a pedovore = he had nothing to do with healing sick people. That is what the LIGHT does, not the Darkness. Just like it’s the case with the King of kings being confused and sometimes His attributes and characteristics were given to the Evil One, it’s the same situation here between Eshmun and the Evil One. Both happened in later dates, when younger generation didn’t understand the origin and how the real situation was. They admitted themselves that there was an attempt to Hellenize Eshmun and associate him to Asclepius; same thing was done by the evil clan and they tried to associate him to the Evil One.

“Artifacts and finds

Apart from the large decorative elements, carved friezes and mosaics which were left in situ, many artifacts were recovered and moved from the Eshmun Temple to the national museum, the Louvre or are in possession of the Lebanese directorate general of antiquities. Some of these smaller finds include a collection of inscribed ostraca unearthed by Dunand providing rare examples of cursive Phoenician writing in the Phoenician mainland. One of the recovered ostracon bears the theophoric Phoenician name "grtnt" which suggests that veneration of the lunar-goddess Tanit occurred in Sidon.”

>> LoL! There is nothing that links it to the cult of Tanit. It’s just a person whom carries a theophoric name whom might traveled or lived in Sidon and made an offering to the temple which required the use of pottery = like a wine amphora as an offering to the temple and his name was written on it. Anon will understand next why (((they))) linked the temple of Eshmun to the cult of Tanit ON PURPOSE in this Wikipedia page. I will explain why this is done this way.

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7bf5a6  No.14764642

>>14758975

(Pleas read from the start)

“A number of fragmented votive life-size sculptures of little children lying on their side and holding a pet animal or a small object were also recovered at the temple site; among the best known of these is the Baalshillem Temple Boy, a sculpture of a royal child holding a dove with his right hand. The boy's head is shaved, his torso is bare and his lower body is wrapped in a large cloth. The socle of this sculpture is inscribed with a dedication from Baalshillem II, a Sidonian king to Eshmun, which illustrates the importance of the site to the Sidonian monarchy. These votive sculptures appear to have been purposely broken after dedication to Eshmun and then ceremoniously cast into the sacred canal, probably simulating the sacrifice of the sick child. All of these sculptures represent boys. A31.5 cm × 27 cm (12.4 in × 10.6 in) limestone bust of a Kouros dating from the 6th century BC was found at the site, but unlike the archaic Greek kouroi this figure is not bare.”

>> I’ve been explaining and presenting so far the context of the first piece of evidence the prosecutors had against the Phoenicians. Now, you see what the first piece of evidence is against the Phoenicians = accusation of practicing child sacrifice. I will be going through all of this since I’m the defense lawyer, but first, just let me finish with the Wikipedia page so I won’t have any loose ends. In the meantime, please read and re-read over and over again what is said about the votive figurines in this paragraph ^_^

“Among the notable finds is a golden plaque showing a snake curling on a staff, a Hellenic symbol of Eshmun. and a granite altar bearing the name of Egyptian Pharaoh Achoris uncovered in the Eshmun sanctuary. This gift attests to the good relations between the Pharaoh and the kings of Sidon.”

>> Ancient Egypt ALWAYS had an excellent relationship with all Phoenician City-States, from long ago, if you bother to check it out that is. Their relationship was always friendly and on excellent terms. Anyone reading wonders why? All of these so called researchers on both sides of the isle never bothered to look into WHY there was such a cordial and good relationship between Ancient Egypt and Phoenicia. Achoris reigns between 390-378 B.C., he’s from the 29th dynasty.The snake curling on a staff is from later period and it’s clear it’s Greek influence.

“The repute of the sanctuary was far reaching. Cypriot pilgrims from Paphos left marks of their devotion for Astarte on a marble stele inscribed both in Greek and Cypriot syllabary at Astarte's shrine; this stele is now in the custody of the Lebanese directorate general of antiquities.”

>> LoL! See how (((they))) are trying to trick you here into thinking the cult of Astarte was kicking and trending in the temple of Eshmun; while we know it was INJECTED in that temple in the Hellenistic period = very late date. Amazing how (((they))) do not mention the date of this inscribed stele from the Cypriots in this Wikipedia page. See how (((they))) word the information to play with your perception of things making you think the cult of Astarte was widespread and dominant in the temple of Eshmun for a long time; which is a false information. And just above, they tried to link it to Tanit, simply because an ostraca was found of someone with a theophoric name in the temple area. (((They))) are flexing (((their))) muscles here into creating a false perception for the reader. This is (((them))) deploying ALL of (((their))) assets to twist and control the narrative surrounding the temple of Eshmun. And anons complain about CNN; don’t you get it? (((They))) have been doing this twisting of the narrative for thousands of years now.

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7bf5a6  No.14764654

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>>14764642

(Please read from the start)

“Pillaging

Treasure hunters have sought out the Eshmun Temple since antiquity; around 1900 artifacts bearing Phoenician inscriptions from the temple site found their way to Beirutine antiquities markets where they stirred the interest of the Ottoman authorities and prompted a series of archeological digs. During the civil war, upon a request from then Lebanese director general of antiquities Maurice Chehab, Maurice Dunand moved more than 2000 artifacts from Sidon to a subterranean chamber at the Byblos crusader castle, 30 kilometres (19 mi) north of Beirut. In 1981, the depot was looted and around 600 sculptures and architectural elements were stolen and smuggled out of Lebanon. Rolf Stucky, ex-director of the Institute of Classical Archaeology of Basel affirmed during a conference in Beirut in December 2009 the successful identification and return of eight sculptures to the Lebanese national museum.”

>> When you investigate, you will find out the theft was done on purpose. Wanna guess where most of these stolen artifacts landed? = in the hands of the “collectors”.

I’m going to give anons a link about the temple of Eshmun. Sorry, it’s in French though. The information in it is a repeat of what is written in Wikipedia, but there is a good set of pictures of the temple and the excavated artifacts. I’m putting it for the anons whom are interested in seeing more about the site: https://libnanews.com/en/liban-patrimoine-le-temple-phenicien-deshmoun/?nowprocket=1

By now the reader is very well acquainted with the context and what this is about: it’s about a bunch of ex-votos of toddlers which were found in Ehsmun temple. I’ve attached the pictures of the pieces in display at the National Museum of Beirut with this page. These pieces are the best preserved. This is why they were picked to be displayed at the museum, but there are more of them, damaged and some were stolen.

I was still very young when the discovery of these ex-votos happened, so I don’t remember it, but my teacher was already in the field and he remembers what happened very well. There was this frenzy, this hysteria by the “accusers” of the Phoenicians practicing children sacrifice. They were in pure euphoria grabbing onto the discovery like this monkey is doing to the cub in Disney’s Lion King movie. By the way, the story of Lion king, it’s a projection of the Evil One and the coup to kill the King of kings.

Anyways, back then, it was the great “Tada” moment for the Phoenician’s accusers of practicing children sacrifice. And they were like: “Behold, we finally have concrete physical evidence that the Phoenicians practiced children sacrifice”. That’s how my old teacher recounts the events. But did you read that sentence carefully = “Finally”, concrete physical evidence”. The flip of this sentence means that the Jews have accused the Phoenicians for so long of practicing children sacrifice, without any concrete physical evidence, till those ex-votos were found. Amazing isn’t it? That’s almost 2000 years of being accused of a crime and convicted of it with no tangible evidence. But the Jews had to wait around 2000 years or so, to “finally” get their hands on the evidence. Waw! It’s amazing! And everyone chimed in and aligned themselves with the Jews for centuries.

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7bf5a6  No.14764679

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>>14764654

(Please read from the start)

Anyways… loads of supposed expert went on full mode attacked supported by the media and academic world = all the assets were deployed and a full scale attack was undertaken to totally obliterate the public image of the Phoenicians. A few protested this “interpretation” of the artifacts and they argued that the discovery of the ex-votos doesn’t indicate the practice of human sacrifice in Eshmun temple or by the Phoenicians in general. These few brave souls presented arguments, very logical ones, but they were muffled and they were crushed on different levels by the other side. The defenders of the Phoenicians were overwhelmed by the opposing forces so they shut up in the end. It seem like the accusers had won and finally proved the Phoenicians practiced children sacrifice.

Until…the accuser got a hard punch in their guts from the Phoenicians themselves. The most unexpected thing happened = a new artifact was discovered from the site as the digging continued. It was the base (= le socle) of one of the ex-voto statues and it had a Phoenician inscription on it, naming whom the toddler was = King of Sidon Baalshelim II.

Baalshelim II reigned as the king of Sidon and he struck coins. There is a very nice coin collection at the British Museum coming from his reign. This means, the child of the votive statue wasn’t sacrificed when he was a toddler as the accusers were claiming all the children statues were. But, this toddler, lived, grew to become an adult and reigned as the king of Sidon and even struck coins in his name. If this child was sacrificed as the accusers were claiming, so how come he became an adult whom reigned as the king and struck coins? ^_~

(((Their))) accusations; let me rephrase that: the accusations made by the Jews and their supporters in the academic world that these statues represent the sacrificed children by the Phoenicians to Eshmun were totally obliterated by the inscription on the base of the statue of Baalshelim II. This base with its inscription, are proof the child lived and was never sacrificed.

The discovery of the base with the inscription also shed light on the true intentions of the accusers = it outed them and how the anti-Phoenician mafia works. The entire incident demonstrated how powerful (((they))) are and how (((they))) manipulated the masses and controlled the media and the academic world alike. The curtain was pulled away and it became clear there was a manipulative hand behind it all.

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7bf5a6  No.14764736

>>14764679

(Please read from the start)

(((Their))) false accusation fell apart; it was blown to pieces and (((their))) conspiracy and deceit were exposed…and yet…(((they))) didn’t back down, nor retracted (((their))) claims and accusation, nor corrected it. In fact, (((they))) doubled and tripled down with (((their))) accusation still presenting these ex-votos as evidence of children sacrifice practiced by the Phoenicians at the temple of Eshmun. When (((they))) noticed (((their))) narrative was falling apart and the public along with the academic world started to understand that these were lies and false claims, (((they))) started to move the goal posts and change the narrative. (((They))) keep on moving the goal posts again and again, twisting facts and presenting the most bizarre and illogical arguments as facts.

Like what? Like how an ostracon was found with a theophoric name on it and it was “connected” to Tanit (page 1 444). It was presented as proof of children sacrifice being practiced at the temple of Eshmun due to the cult of Tanit being present there. While there not a SINGLE archaeological artifact, tangible physical evidence, a symbol carved on the temple, nothing supporting the existence or practice of the cult of Tanit at Eshmun temple. This is pure abracadabra from the Jews.

Since that didn’t hold, then (((they))) switched tactics and went to interpret the state of the statues and the damage on them. You just read that part in the Wikipedia page 1445 the most absurd and illogic explanation given to the damage on the statues as this is a “symbolic” sacrifice of children where they sacrificed the ex-votos instead of the real children. LoL! This is the joke of the century. I’ve been an archaeologist of many decades and it’s the first time I hear of such a practice. My teacher is older than me in the profession and he never heard of such a practice = sacrificing the ex-votos instead of the real child. And we all agree, Phoenicians didn’t practice voodoo. This is truly as absurd as pretending that Potus was best buddies with Epstein.

The thing is anons, (((their))) accusation fell entirely apart and even drowned in the ocean of truth that came out. The lies about Eshmun temple and the votive figurines were exposed. The manipulation and the deceit were also exposed. And yet, they keep on holding onto that bone and go: “behold of the evidence the Phoenicians sacrificed children”, despite that it was all debunked by the base of the statue of Baalshelim II. (((Their))) narrative fell apart and (((their))) lies were exposed as well as (((their))) dirty tricks and (((they))) didn’t back away and (((they))) are still holding onto the lies and the propaganda.

Anons this was the first piece of evidence in the trial. This was presented as the first tangible, physical evidence that the Phoenicians practiced children sacrifice. And….it turned out to be all bogus; it was debunked by the Phoenicians themselves. It’s up to you to believe this or not. I’m presenting the case and you can go dig about this matter yourselves.

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7bf5a6  No.14764774

>>14764736

(Please read from the start)

Next, I’m going to explain to you what the temple of Eshmun is about and about the ex-votos.

We barely know anything about Eshmun, mostly how he looked and what is his symbol = as in we don’t have a single image = iconography of the original Phoenician Eshmun. All we know about him is that he was a healer god. There are indications that his cult is very old, much older than what we are told. I’ve already tried to explain some of this and gave a couple of examples using the name of Eshmounazar. I have more but I rather keep to myself for now.

His association with Asclepius, Astarte and the Evil One came from an extremely late dates = Hellenic, then Hellenistic influence. There are no connections to Tanit.

The temple was built outside of the city walls of Sidon, which means there was a procession that took place there. This extra muros temple is built in that location due to the curative waters that existed near the river Awwali. As the canalization indicates, water from the river was diverted and basins were filled with it, where “patients” = sick people used to come in and submerge themselves in the “holy” water to heal.

This is not a strange practice and this is not unseen. Temples with curative water basins in them used for healing are found in many places in the world, including Japan and as we’ve already seen in this thread before, in the Andean region (page 468) with the Wari culture there. And I’ve cited many times already the site of Lourdes where Christians still go as pilgrimage there and submerge themselves in the waters in hope of healing. There is nothing wrong to seek the help of a divinity to heal from some sickness or wound. There is nothing barbaric or immoral about it. There is nothing evil or harmful in that. When we get sick, it’s very natural and normal to seek a cure and wanting to heal. Who likes to be sick? Surely not me. How about you? I didn’t find anything wrong with the Wari water healing place back then, nor did I find anything pointing to human sacrifice then. Here, it’s the same with this Phoenician temple, I find nothing relating it to human sacrifice nor do I find anything wrong with the water healing practice of theirs.

This includes children and toddlers being sick. Look at the statues, can you guess what stage in life these children are in? = teething period. I don’t know if you have kids or not, but this is one heck of a time for children to be feverish and the pain as their teeth coming out kicks in. So yeah, even I rushed my kids to the hospital despite knowing their teeth were coming out, but the fever was not subsiding. And in turn, my own children rushed their own kids to the hospital or called the doctor for help because of the same reasons. It’s normal for a parent to worry about their children even if it’s just a tooth that is coming out. Is this specifically what these children were sick of? Maybe, maybe not. The age is an indicator, but it’s not certain, it could be anything, from a cold, to tummy pain cause by indigestion or they fell and wounded themselves. I’m saying the age of the children could indicate the types of their illnesses; that’s all.

So a worrying parent would normally take his child to a place where it can be cured, healed. It happened to be the temple of Eshmun. And that child was healed a while later after it got to bathe in the water of Eshmun temple. So the grateful parents or sick person would want to thank the temple and the deity. Some make donations as in give money, or some type of food, wine maybe etc. Others make offering by sacrificing animals, like the rooster guy relief on page 1 443, last picture. Others burn incense or light candles while some make contributions to the temple and build or restore a section in it. While some offer ex-votos to the temple to show their gratitude. It all depends on how grateful you are and how deep your pockets are.

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7bf5a6  No.14764795

>>14764774

(Please read from the start)

What is an ex-voto: “an offering given in order to fulfil a vow”. This was practiced by all the civilizations in the world and it’s even practiced in Christianity, till this day. It’s not criminal, it’s not evil. Same thing for the curative waters which is also practiced by Christians nowadays and there is nothing criminal or evil about it.

So why are (((they))) trying to find “flaws” and “sin” in where there is none?

We found no grave with the remains of the supposed sacrificed victims and I’m sure we will never find any in the temple or in its vicinity. Why am I sure? Because this temple is a place for life, not a place for death. It’s a place where people come looking to get better, to heal = another chance in life and staying away from death. This temple, its role and its function projects life not death.

No human sacrifice ceremonial knives were found in the temple or in its vicinity. But we did found many where human sacrifice were practiced in the Andean Region and with the Aztecs. We found the opposite here: we found a multitude of different kinds of offerings from people healed = reflecting happiness and life. The high number of offerings to the temple and the contributions made (despite the pillaging and the damage) couldn’t be hidden or ignored. You cannot have this high number of people being thankful if there wasn’t a high number of healed people.

This includes the royal parents of Baalshelim II. Their kid was sick, they brought him to the temple to be healed and apparently he was healed because they offered this ex-voto to the temple to thank them, to fulfil their vow for in exchange for healing their son. This shows how much the royal parents cared for their child. It doesn’t show they wanted to sacrifice him. Caring parents would rather die themselves than sacrifice their children. It’s absolutely illogical to say that caring parents sacrifice their children. Only a twisted mind would think that way.

When you look at this series of toddler ex-votos, they surely are high end quality artifacts. This must have cost loads of money. It reflects how deep the pockets of those whom made the offering were. And it’s very logical for royal parents to be able to afford such high quality offering when their child is cured.

It’s not all. Please look closely what Baalshelim II is holding in his right hand in the ex-voto statue = a toy bird. This projects the image of a happy toddler playing with toys. It gives us a glimpse of the domestic life, family life within the royal family. This child was loved and cared for. He had toys to play with and make him happy.

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7bf5a6  No.14764816

File: fa5cde623c7ace6⋯.jpg (184.87 KB, 1200x902, 600:451, Votive_statue_of_Baalshile….jpg)

>>14764795

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When you look at the ex-voto statues, they are not identical, but they give you a sense as if they are a series = almost of the same type, or same idea about them. As if this was the standards of ex-voto production by the artisans making this. Sure, the details and the shape of the kids changed but the general idea behind them was the same.

Now look at the bottom of these statues, they are shaped differently = no standard shape or form. They are of irregular form. Then look at the bottom of the statue of Baalshelim II and at the outline of the base where the statue fits in = it’s a perfect match; as in it fits in perfectly. This was done by the one whom carved this on purpose; as in the base with the inscription on it came along with the statue = ordered with it. Together they indicate that these statues were put on display on a flat surface to be seen by all = the inscription confirms it = it was meant to be read by people and that child to be recognized as Baalshelim II. It’s very obvious when we compare, that all the remaining statues of toddlers had similar bases with the possibility of having inscriptions on them, naming them and their genealogy for the public to see and read.

The ridiculous accusation of these statues being substitutes for real children sacrifice is just that = ridicule. (((They))) truly think we are stupid to believe that. Yes, these statues were damaged as it’s obvious if you look at them. But the cause of the damage is unknown. There is a multitude of causes which could have damaged the statues which were on display in the temple:

1 - The earthquakes mentioned in the Wikipedia page. These statues could have fallen because of the earthquake, broke or got damaged. So the priests in respect, might have buried them with care.

2 - They could be damaged during a war, an invasion or a conqueror through the many centuries; as in they might all have fell from the place they were displayed on.

3 – It was admitted that the temple was pillaged many times over the centuries by looters.

4 – The early Christians might have purposely broke them or damaged them as a revolt and rejection of paganism, as it was the many cases around the world during the rise of Christianity.

5 – We already read that some of the blocks were taken from the temple and re-used for the construction of a church and then a bridge. It is possible the workers might have damaged = fall and broke – the statues as they were removing the blocks.

6 – We have several excavation expeditions on the site of the temple before Dunand excavated it, without knowing what happened and what they did there.

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7bf5a6  No.14764830

File: 22e0c0911f8d0ca⋯.jpg (178.81 KB, 800x638, 400:319, Gu_rin_n_e_racontant_Didon….jpg)

>>14764816

(Please read from the start)

So you see dear reader, saying the damage on the ex-votos is a sign that they were used as substitute for children sacrifice instead of the real toddler is nothing but pure fabrication and a big ugly lie. The reason of the damage could be one of the proposed above, or a reason that I didn’t think of. We simply don’t know how, why and when they got damaged. There are different factors which could have caused the damaged, but we cannot know what it is for sure with the current information we’ve got.

And this is where I end my defense argument/case of Evidence 1 against the Phoenician. If you are convinced or not, is up to you dear reader. Check things out and make up your own mind.

Evidence 2: Is about the tragic death of queen Elissa known to the West as queen Dido.

Just like what I did with Evidence 1, I’m going to look at the context of this second evidence against the Phoenicians and see what it’s about. In order to do so, we gotta get acquainted with the protagonist of the story = Queen Elissa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido

“Dido (/ˈdaɪdoʊ/ DY-doh; Ancient Greek: Διδώ Greek pronunciation: [diː.dɔː], Latin pronunciation: [ˈdiːdoː]), also known as Alyssa or Elissa (/iːˈlɪsə/ ə-LISS-ə, Ἔλισσα), was the legendary foundress and first queen of the Phoenician city-state of Carthage, located in modern Tunisia. Known only through ancient Greek and Roman sources, most of which were written well after Carthage's founding, her historicity remains uncertain. In most accounts, she was the queen of the Phoenician city-state of Tyre, today Ṣūr in Lebanon, who flees tyranny to found her own city in northwest Africa.”

>> So here you go anons, from the get go she is a “legendary” queen known from Greek and Roman sources but her historicity is uncertain. In other words, we don’t know if she really existed, as a real person in history or if she is a fictive character from a legendary tale.

“Details about Dido's character, life, and role in the founding of Carthage are best known from the account given in Virgil's epic poem, the Aeneid, which tells the legendary story of the Trojan hero Aeneas. Dido is described as a clever and enterprising woman who flees her ruthless and autocratic brother, Pygmalion, after discovering that he was responsible for her husband's death. Through her wisdom and leadership, the city of Carthage is founded and made prosperous.”

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7bf5a6  No.14764842

>>14764830

(Please read from the start)

“Dido remains an enduring figure in popular culture, featured in plays, artworks, and other media into the 21st century. Her legacy is especially strong in Tunisia, whose women are sometimes called the "Daughters of Dido", and where she is regarded as a national symbol, even being previously featured on its currency.”

>> So all of this is based on? = an epic poem from Virgil. Then the rest is based on what I call “Urban Legend”. Anyone found her grave? A statue of her? A relief? An inscription made by her as a founder of Carthage? Some of her personal effects? Her children should have been kings and queens of Carthage, did they mention their mother or left any artifacts of their own? = NOTHING, absolutely nothing of tangible, concrete, physical evidence was found of her, about her or around her.

“Name

Many names in the legend of Dido are of Punic origin, which suggests that the first Greek authors who mention this story have taken up Phoenician accounts. One suggestion is that Dido is an epithet from the same Semitic root as David, which means "Beloved". Others state Didô means "the wanderer",”

>> Please forgive me for the language but this is pure B.S.

The first sentence is terribly misleading. First of all Dido is the Hellenized name of the queen. Her true, original, authentic name was Phoenician = since she came from Tyre and it was Elissa, not Dido. So comparing her name to David is pure B.S. from whomever wrote this, just so you would connect it in your mind to the Jews. (((They))) did the same thing with the temple of Eshmun which we just took a look at. (((They))) always insert things related to Jews or Judaism when talking about Phoenicians so that your mind would redirect your thoughts towards the Jews and intermingle them with Phoenicians, despite that both were separate, not related and had nothing to do with one another. (((They))) always try to redirect your thoughts into merging both. I said before the Jews always calque themselves on the Phoenicians. The Jews were always and still are to this day, nothing but copycats of the Phoenicians; as in they always wanted to be whom the Phoenicians were and they always wanted to have what the Phoenicians had. This is why (((they))) keep on interjecting Jewish stuff each time you read anything about the Phoenicians.

It was forbidden for an extremely long time to print any book, any inscription using the Phoenician alphabet, the Phoenician characters = the printing houses used Jewish alphabet letters instead of Phoenician to print the few Phoenician texts and inscriptions that we have. It was forbidden to use the Phoenician alphabet letters even in printing. The entire world, including Potus, has no idea of the level of discrimination applied towards the Phoenicians and their current descendants. This is very different from the other types of discremination because this has been going on for a bit more than 2000 years.

To point the degree of bias towards the Phoenicians, this article should be under the name of Queen Elissa = if someone search for her under the name of Queen Dido, it should redirect the researcher to Elissa, but it’s not. They kept the Hellenized name and didn’t adopt the original Phoenician name. This is done on purpose and part of the discrimination against the Phoenicians. I’m not basing my words on just this ONE example. Keep an eye on this when you research Phoenicians, you will notice a pattern = I caught the pattern and this is how I discovered the bias and discrimination against the Phoenicians.

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e7dfa7  No.14771090

>>14764842

(Please read from the start)

Then, here comes the beauty: they tell you this has PUNIC origins (as in Neo-Phoenician as some calls it = a mutated form of Phoenician language) and it’s clear the earliest Greek authors have taken up the Phoenician accounts of her tragic story. If this is the case, why keep on calling her Dido and not call her by her real name Elissa? All this proves is that the earliest Greek authors read some archives or records of Carthage, it doesn’t prove anything beyond that. They could have read several stories and patched them together and created a new fantasy story out of the patchwork they did for all I know.

“According to Marie-Pierre Noël, "Elishat/Elisha" is a name repeatedly attested on Punic votives. It is composed of the Punic reflex of *ʾil- "god", the remote Phoenician creator god El, also a name for God in Judaism, and "‐issa", which could be either "ʾiš" means "fire", or another word for "woman". Other works state it is the feminine form of El. In Greek it appears as Theiossô, which translates Élissa: el becoming theos.”

>> Wow! This guy Noel is amazing! He managed to crack the Punic writing all by himself and understand them so easily. And of course, there had to be the connection to the Jews to redirect your minds and your thoughts. We know nothing of this anons, we really don’t. What you see here, in this paragraph is the result of translating Phoenician based on Hebrew and Jewish culture. While even a greenhorn in archaeology knows the Jews imitated the Phoenicians, not the other way around. They imitated them and twisted things around to make them fit (((them))). I do not agree of this method anons. You cannot understand an ancient civilization on the data provided by its rivals, enemies and those whom stole their identity. You gotta go back to the original source = the Phoenician source.

I want to show anons something, I hope it will make you understand why I don’t buy this translation story and I hope you will see how you are being misled: the difference between Phoenician motherland and Carthage sphere empire/influence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punic_language

“The Punic language, also called Phoenicio-Punic, is an extinct variety of the Phoenician language, a Canaanite language of the Northwest Semitic branch of the Semitic languages. An offshoot of its parent Phoenician language of coastal West Asia (modern Lebanon and western Syria), it was principally spoken on the Mediterranean coast of Northwest Africa, and also in the Iberian peninsula and several Mediterranean islands such as Malta and Sicily by the Punic people/Phoenicians throughout Classical antiquity, from the 8th century BCE to the 6th century CE.”

>> Even here they are confusing = merging the Punic with the Phoenician. It’s explained better further down.

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e7dfa7  No.14771095

>>14771090

(Please read from the start)

“"Punic" is considered to have separated from its "Phoenician" parent around the time that Carthage became the leading city in the area under Mago I, but scholarly attempts to delineate the dialects lack precision and generally disagree on the classification.”

>> King Mago I reigned from 550 to 530 B.C. Carthage was supposedly found in 814 B.C. so it took some 250 + years for the Punic language to diverge = separate from the original Phoenician language. Look at WHEN all the Greek and Roman writers lived = dates. So, around a 100 years later from the rule of Mago I, these writers came and “consulted” the Carthagenian archives. See what I mean here anons?

“History

The Punics stayed in contact with Phoenicia until the destruction of Carthage by the Roman Republic in 146 BCE. At first, there was not much difference between Phoenician and Punic, but as time went on Punic began to become influenced less by Phoenicia and more by the Berber languages spoken in and around Carthage by the ancient Libyans.”

>> This is correct, it started by the Phoenicians but when it reached the reign of king Mago I, the Carthagenian language had already diverged from the Phoenician, influenced by local = native language, like Berber language, culture and traditions. It’s also true that the contact between the motherland Phoenicia, mostly the founding city Sur = Tyre, was never cut-off for centuries. But as time went on, the influence of the founding city got less and less.

I hope anons understand me better now and why I’m against relying on Hebrew to translate both Punic and Phoenician languages. Dig a bit deeper, you will understand me even better.

Let’s continue with Elissa:

“Chronology

This understanding of the chronology related to Dido and her company resulted in the following dates for Dido and her immediate relations, as derived from F. M. Cross and Wm. H. Barnes:

• Baal-Eser II (Ba‘l-mazzer II) 846–841 BC

• Mattan I 840–832 BC

• 839 BC: Dido was born in Tyre

• 831 BC: Pygmalion (in Phoenician pmy(y)tn or p‘mytn, i. e. Pu'mayyaton which is rendered in the Greek tradition as Pygmalion) begins to reign

• 825 BC: Dido flees Tyre in 7th year of Pygmalion, after the death of Acerbas

• 825 BC and possibly some time thereafter: Dido and companions on Cyprus

• Between 825 BC and 814 BC: Tyrians build settlement on island of Cothon

• 814 BC: Dido founds Carthage on mainland

• 785 BC: Death of Pygmalion

• 759 BC: Dido died in Carthage

>> This is an estimation….this is why I just used above in my comment the word “supposedly” when talking about the foundation date of Carthage.

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e7dfa7  No.14771104

>>14771095

(Please read from the start)

“Early accounts

The person of Dido can be traced to references by Roman historians to lost writings of Timaeus of Tauromenium in Sicily (c. 356–260 BC).”

>> Let me get this straight: Timaeus of Tauromenium wrote stuff about Elissa and some Roman historians came and used his work as references, but his work is lost to us. Amazing!

“Ancient historians gave various dates, both for the foundation of Carthage and the foundation of Rome. Appian, in the beginning of his Punic Wars, claims that Carthage was founded by a certain Zorus and Carchedon, but Zorus looks like an alternative transliteration of the city name Tyre, while Carchedon is just the Greek form of Carthage. Timaeus made Carchedon's wife Elissa the sister of King Pygmalion of Tyre. Archaeological evidence of settlement on the site of Carthage before the last quarter of the 8th century BC has yet to be found. Paucity of material for this period may be explained by rejection of the Greek Dark Age theory. That the city is named (Qart-hadasht, or "New City") at least indicates it was a colony.”

>> Zorus and Carchedon’s explanations are correct here. Remember Tyre is known in Phoenician as SUR; Zorus is most probably the Hellenized word for Sur. For certain, Carthage was a NEW CITY-STATE, as in a New COLONY of Sur. This is undisputed.

“The only surviving full account before Virgil's treatment is that of Virgil's contemporary Gnaeus Pompeius Trogus in his Philippic histories as rendered in a digest or epitome made by Junianus Justinus in the 3rd century AD.

Justin quoting or paraphrasing Trogus states (18.4–6), a king of Tyre whom Justin does not name, made his very beautiful daughter Dido and son Pygmalion his joint heirs. But on his death the people took Pygmalion alone as their ruler though Pygmalion was yet still a boy. Dido married Acerbas her uncle who as priest of Heracles—that is, Melqart—was second in power to King Pygmalion. Acerbas (Sicharbas, Zacherbas) can be equated with the Zikarbaal king of Byblos mentioned in the Egyptian Tale of Wenamon. Rumor told that Acerbas had much wealth secretly buried and King Pygmalion had Acerbas murdered in hopes of gaining this wealth. Dido, desiring to escape Tyre, expressed a wish to move into Pygmalion's palace, but then ordered the attendants whom Pygmalion sent to aid in the move, to throw all Acerbas' bags of gold into the sea apparently as an offering to his spirit. In fact these bags contained only sand. Dido then persuaded the attendants to join her in flight to another land rather than face Pygmalion's anger when he discovered what had supposedly become of Acerbas' wealth. Some senators also joined her in her flight.”

>> I have a problem with what is written: please if you can, find me ONE artifact, authentic artifact, from TYRE itself, dating back to Phoenician times of: Elissa, Acerbas, Pygmalion, Mattan I & Baal-Eser II.

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6553aa  No.14777288

>>14771104

(Please read from the start)

There is a high chance these are the incorrect names of these people. By that I mean these might be the names referred to them by others, like the Jews or the Romans. The Bible names us some king from Tyre but…. Did we find any tangible, concrete proof they actually existed? A relief, a sculpture, a sarcophagus etc. = anything tangible which could prove they truly existed. If you haven’t noticed yet, I’m not inclined to believe what is written in the Old Testament. I believe what is written in the diplomatic correspondence (as well as treaties) with other nations/kingdoms which had contact with Phoenicia; like if one of those kings were mentioned for example in archives in Ancient Egypt, then I’m inclined to believe that source more than believing what is written in the Old Testament.

This is a very deep hole and it’s mostly a dark one, this is almost impossible to untangle with the information we’ve got nowadays. So when you are working on a Phoenician king or a king list…be careful and verify if they really existed through the presence of archaeological artifacts, like what we saw with Baalshelim II statue at temple of Eshmun. Or maybe their names in Hebrew and Latin, Greek, are the altered names and not the original names, then, this means we gotta go look for the original name to find out which king it was. I’m telling you, this is extremely hard to untangle with the current data we have.

As for what’s written about the story of Pygmalion being greedy, wanting to take Acerbas gold and Elissa fleeing…well, for me it’s just that = a story. And it will remain a story until a tangible, physical artifact from Sur = Tyre during Phoenician times was found for any of those mentioned above. Until that discovery is made….I’m saying it again = this is just a story for me.

“The party arrived at Cyprus where the priest of Jupiter joined the expedition. There the exiles also seized about eighty young women who were prostituting themselves on the shore in order to provide wives for the men in the party.”

>> See! This is made up. Have you ever seen a group of 80 women prostitute themselves on the shore? LoL! This is a projection of Roman ideology into the tale narrated here. When you read the few Phoenician texts that we have at our disposal, you will notice they always put a genealogy of the main person of the text, or the one whom ordered the text to be written, like the inscription on the sarcophagus of Eshmunazor II for example. Do you think people with the mentality of naming their genealogy (telling they are the descendants of) will just pick up unknown, unnamed prostitutes from a shore and take them as wives? When all of your texts are stereotyped in how they are formed as in you highlight your ancestry in them = doesn’t this mean ancestry is important to the Phoenicians?

Don’t confuse this with keeping the Blood pure. This has nothing to do with it. What I’m talking about here is knowing the family tree from the father and the mother sides. The Phoenician texts, most of them, named their genealogy. Some say it’s to take pride, while others say it’s like a marker of identification = as in keeping family records, registers. And we know these registers existed all the way up till Pompey’s arrival during the first triumvirate. A lot of secret deals took place behind closed doors and those registers disappeared…then poof Herode the Great appeared with his fake/doctored registers of the Jews. Go dig, and you will find what I’m talking about.

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6553aa  No.14777293

File: 938250850c2ba89⋯.jpg (661.35 KB, 2667x4000, 2667:4000, Death_of_Dido.jpg)

>>14777288

(Please read from the start)

“Eventually Dido and her followers arrived on the coast of North Africa where Dido asked the Berber king Iarbas for a small bit of land for a temporary refuge until she could continue her journeying, only as much land as could be encompassed by an oxhide. They agreed. Dido cut the oxhide into fine strips so that she had enough to encircle an entire nearby hill, which was therefore afterwards named Byrsa "hide". (This event is commemorated in modern mathematics: The "isoperimetric problem" of enclosing the maximum area within a fixed boundary is often called the "Dido Problem" in modern calculus of variations.) That would become their new home. Many of the local Berbers joined the settlement and both Berbers and envoys from the nearby Phoenician city of Utica urged the building of a city. In digging the foundations an ox's head was found, indicating a city that would be wealthy but subject to others. Accordingly, another area of the hill was dug instead where a horse's head was found, indicating that the city would be powerful in war.”

>> The Roman fingerprints = scent on this story is very noticeable. But I do love how it’s admitted that Berbers joined in for the foundation of the new City-States as well as Phoenicians from the City-State of Utica = only God knows what they brought with them.

“But when the new city of Carthage had been established and become prosperous, Iarbas, a native king of the Maxitani or Mauritani (manuscripts differ), demanded Dido for his wife or he would make war on Carthage. Still, she preferred to stay faithful to her first husband and after creating a ceremonial funeral pyre and sacrificing many victims to his spirit in pretense that this was a final honoring of her first husband in preparation for marriage to Iarbas, Dido ascended the pyre, announced that she would go to her husband as they desired, and then slew herself with her sword. After this self-sacrifice Dido was deified and was worshipped as long as Carthage endured. In this account, the foundation of Carthage occurred 72 years before the foundation of Rome.

Servius in his commentary on Virgil's Aeneid gives Sicharbas as the name of Dido's husband in early tradition.”

>> Here you go anons, this is the accusation of the Phoenicians practicing human sacrifice. I’m going to finish this Wikipedia page first, then talk about this accusation used as evidence against the Phoenicians.

“Historicity and dating

The oxhide story which explains the name of the hill is most likely of Greek origin since Byrsa means "oxhide" in Greek, not in Punic. The name of the hill in Punic was probably just a derivation from Semitic brt "fortified place". But that does not prevent other details in the story from being Carthaginian, albeit still not necessarily historical. Michael Grant in Roman Myths (1973) claims that "Dido-Elissa was originally a goddess", and that she was converted from a goddess into a mortal (if still legendary) queen sometime in the later fifth century BCE by a Greek writer.”

>> See how mutations happen? And it’s mostly done by the Greeks = they always interpret things their way = Greek ideology, not as they really are.

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3139f3  No.14783225

File: cd963034c35075d⋯.jpg (244.61 KB, 800x1066, 400:533, Dido_and_Aeneas_Roman_fres….jpg)

>>14777293

(Please read from the start)

“Others conjecture that Dido was indeed historical, as described in the following accounts. It is unknown who first combined the story of Dido with the tradition that connected Aeneas either with Rome or with earlier settlements from which Rome traced its origin. A fragment of an epic poem by Gnaeus Naevius who died at Utica in 201 BC includes a passage which might or might not be part of a conversation between Aeneas and Dido. Servius in his commentary (4.682; 5.4) cites Varro (1st century BC ) for a version in which Dido's sister Anna killed herself for love of Aeneas.”

>> On top of the obvious Greek mutation, we have another obvious mutation, but from the Roman times. They just add things as they wish and explain things as they wish not as they really are.

“Evidence for the historicity of Dido (which is a question independent of whether or not she ever met Aeneas) can be associated with evidence for the historicity of others in her family, such as her brother Pygmalion and their grandfather Balazeros. Both of these kings are mentioned, as well as Dido, in the list of Tyrian kings given in Menander of Ephesus's list of the kings of Tyre, as preserved in Josephus's Against Apion, i.18. Josephus ends his quotation of Menander with the sentence "Now, in the seventh year of his [Pygmalion's] reign, his sister fled away from him and built the city of Carthage in Libya."

>> Yeah! Well, I guess we can say this king list thing is good, but I still have a problem with it because I cannot find any artifact from Tyre or any other Phoenician City-State about any of the mentioned above and….why can’t we find the name of these kings in treaties or correspondence with another sovereigns contemporary to them. And let me show you something else: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menander_of_Ephesus

“Menander of Ephesus (Greek: Μένανδρος; fl. c. early 2nd century BC) was the historian whose lost work on the history of Tyre was used by Josephus, who quotes Menander's list of kings of Tyre in his apologia for the Jews, Against Apion (1.18). "This Menander wrote the Acts that were done both by the Greeks and Barbarians, under every one of the Tyrian kings, and had taken much pains to learn their history out of their own records." All records having been lost, this second-hand report is the basis for the traditional king-list. Menander, living in a city with a considerable population of Hellenized Jews, also seems to have written on the history of the Jews, often cited by Josephus.

[…]”

>> Anons can read the rest for themselves if they are interested. But I would like to point a few things out; like Menander was from Ephesus and here, it’s admitted that Ephesus had a LARGE JEWISH population; not just any Jewish population, but a Hellenized Jewish population – I’ve tried to explain all of this from page 1 316 to page 1 318.

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3139f3  No.14783247

File: 6e3f02605858cf1⋯.jpg (292.17 KB, 800x1065, 160:213, Stele_von_Nora_Museo_arche….jpg)

File: 553682c0aebdc23⋯.jpg (162.81 KB, 647x762, 647:762, Frankmoorecross.jpg)

>>14783225

(Please read from the start)

So first of all: was Menander a Hellenized Jew? And second, I’m still bugged by the fact that we haven’t found any concrete, physical, tangible artifacts about some of the Phoenician kings. I’m very much like St. Thomas, I like to put my finger on the wound to check out if it’s really there. Maybe this list given to us is right = correct, but I would be happier and trust it a lot more if I could get my hands on some artifact connected directly to anyone from this king list.

“The Nora Stone, found on Sardinia, has been interpreted by Frank Moore Cross as naming Pygmalion as the king of the general who was using the stone to record his victory over the local populace. On paleographic grounds, the stone is dated to the 9th century BC. (Cross's translation, with a longer discussion of the Nora stone, is found in the Pygmalion article). If Cross's interpretation is correct, this presents inscriptional evidence substantiating the existence of a 9th-century-BC king of Tyre named (in Greek) Pygmalion.”

>> I agree: IF the interpretation is correct = IF. But….IF Pygmalion existed what certifies that Elissa existed as well? We just read a couple of paragraphs above that Aeneas was a Roman twist and addition to the story of Elissa. So can I be certain Elissa herself was not an addition and twist to the story of Pygmalion? See what I mean here anons? We are walking on slippery ground here, there is nothing tangible.

And just take a look whom interpreted the Nora Stone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Moore_Cross

“Frank Moore Cross Jr. (1921–2012) was the Hancock Professor of Hebrew and Other Oriental Languages Emeritus at Harvard University, notable for his work in the interpretation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, his 1973 magnum opus Canaanite Myth and Hebrew Epic, and his work in Northwest Semitic epigraphy. Many of his essays on the latter topic have since been collected in Leaves from an Epigrapher's Notebook.

[…]”

Please read the rest of the Wikipedia page about Cross. It’s obvious whom he is working for. Do you understand whom has been doing the “supposed” research about the Phoenicians for decades now? Whom is funding all of this? And ask yourselves 2 very important questions:

1- Why are the Bloodlines so interested in the Phoenicians?

2- Why false information is presented to the public about the Phoenicians while the real information is only provided to the Bloodlines about them?

“Several scholars have identified Baa‘li-maanzer, the king of Tyre who gave tribute to Shalmaneser III in 841 BC, with Ba‘al-'azor (Phoenician form of the name) or Baal-Eser/Balazeros (Greek form of the name), Dido's grandfather. This lends credibility to the account in Josephus/Menander that names the kings of Tyre from Abibaal and Hiram I down to the time of Pygmalion and Dido.”

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3139f3  No.14783253

>>14783247

(Please read from the start)

>> I hope the interpretation and the identification are both correct because this is the type of evidence I would be relying on. If this turns out to be correct, then that would be great. But only about the king of Tyre whom gave tribute to Shalmaneser III. The rest needs to be verified as well. Not because one of them turns out to be correct that the rest are. We should verify each and every single one of the kings on that list, including the names. If one is correct, it doesn’t mean the rest of the list is correct, and in that order. Mostly that we know there are mutated parts and some new characters were inserted in the story like Aeneas. So we gotta be careful.

“Another possible reference to Balazeros is found in the Aeneid. It was a common ancient practice of using the hypocoristicon or shortened form of the name that included only the divine element, so that the "Belus" that Virgil names as the father of Dido in the Aeneid may be a reference to her grandfather, Baal-Eser II/Balazeros.”

>> See what I mean here anons? Is Balazeros her father or her grandfather? The right or wrong identification can significantly shift the kings list if it’s not done properly.

“Even more important than the inscriptional and literary references supporting the historicity of Pygmalion and Dido are chronological considerations that give something of a mathematical demonstration of the veracity of the major feature of the Pygmalion/Dido saga, namely the flight of Dido from Tyre in Pygmalion's seventh year, and her eventual founding of the city of Carthage. Classical authors give two dates for the founding of Carthage. The first is that of Pompeius Trogus, mentioned above, that says this took place 72 years before the foundation of Rome. At least as early as the 1st century BC, and then later, the date most commonly used by Roman writers for the founding of Rome was 753 BC. This would place Dido's flight in 753 + 72 = 825 BC. Another tradition, that of the Greek historian Timaeus (c. 345–260 BC), gives 814 BC for the founding of Carthage. Traditionally most modern scholars have preferred the 814 date. However, the publication of the Shalmaneser text mentioning tribute from Baal-Eser II of Tyre in 841 BC caused a re-examination of this question, since the best texts of Menander/Josephus only allow 22 years from the accession of Baal-Eser/Balazeros until the seventh year of Pygmalion, and measuring back from 814 BC would not allow any overlap of Balazeros with the 841 tribute to Shalmaneser. With the 825 date for the seventh year of Pygmalion, however, Balazeros's last year would coincide with 841 BC, the year of the tribute. Additional evidence in favor of the 825 date is found in the statement of Menander, repeated by Josephus as corroborated from Tyrian court records (Against Apion i.17,18), that Dido's flight (or the founding of Carthage) occurred 143 years and eight months after Hiram of Tyre sent assistance to Solomon for the building of the Temple. Using the 825 date, this Tyrian record would then date the start of Temple construction in 969 or 968 BC, in agreement with the statement in 1 Kings 6:1 that Temple construction began in Solomon's fourth regnal year. Solomon's fourth year can be calculated as starting in the fall of 968 BC when using the widely accepted date of 931/930 BC for the division of the kingdom after the death of Solomon. These chronological considerations therefore definitely favor the 825 date over the 814 date for Dido's departure from Tyre. More than that, the agreement of this date with the timing of the tribute to Shalmaneser and the year when construction of the First Temple began provide evidence for the essential historicity of at least the existence of Pygmalion and Dido as well as their rift in 825 BC that eventually led to the founding of Carthage.”

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3139f3  No.14783257

>>14783253

(Please read from the start)

>> Very nice analysis given to us about the dates here, IF (I repeat IF) everything is verified to be correct = if there are no doubts about the accounts transmitted to us by the Greeks and Romans.

There is also hidden gem in this paragraph: “repeated by Josephus as corroborated from Tyrian court records (Against Apion i.17,18)”. Do you understand what this means? It means the Phoenician archives/records, mostly the Tyrian ones, were last seen during the last days of the Roman Republic and the first days of the Roman Empire = coinciding with the reign of Herod the Great and the birth of Christ. After this period, the Phoenician records, including the Tyrian ones vanished.

“According to J. M. Peñuela, the difference in the two dates for the foundation of Carthage has an explanation if we understand that Dido fled Tyre in 825 BC, but eleven years elapsed before she was given permission by the original inhabitants to build a city on the mainland, years marked by conflict in which the Tyrians first built a small city on an island in the harbor. Additional information about Dido's activities after leaving Tyre are found in the Pygmalion article, along with a summary of later scholars who have accepted Peñuela's thesis.

If chronological considerations thus help to establish the basic historicity of Dido, they also serve to refute the idea that she could have had any liaison with Aeneas. Aeneas fought in the Trojan War, which is conventionally dated anywhere from the 14th to the 12th centuries BC, far too early for Aeneas to have been alive in the time of Dido. Even with the date of 864 BC that historical revisionist David Rohl gives for the end of the Trojan War, Aeneas would have been about 77 years old when Dido fled Tyre in 825 BC and 88 when she began to build Carthage in 814 (following Peñuela's reconstruction), hardly consistent with the romantic intrigues between Dido and Aeneas imagined by Virgil in the Aeneid.”

>> Anons, this is very clear. See how old Aeneas “supposedly” was? This is patchwork anons. It’s just pieces of a story put together and more elements were gradually added to it, like Aeneas.

“Virgil's Aeneid

Virgil's references in the Aeneid generally agree with what Justin's epitome of Trogus recorded. Virgil names Belus as Dido's father, this Belus sometimes being called Belus II by later commentators to distinguish him from Belus son of Poseidon and Libya in earlier Greek mythology. If the story of Dido has a factual basis and is synchronized properly with history then this Belus should stand for Mattan I, father of the historical Pygmalion.

Virgil (1.343f) adds that the marriage between Dido and Sychaeus, as Virgil calls Dido's husband, occurred while her father was still alive. Pygmalion slew Sychaeus secretly due to his wealth and Sychaeus appeared to Dido in a dream in which he told the truth about his death, urged her to flee the country, and revealed to her where his gold was buried. She left with those who hated or feared Pygmalion. None of these details contradicts Justin's epitome, but Virgil very much changes the import and many details of the story when he brings Aeneas and his followers to Carthage.”

>> Here, they are admitting to a mutation from Virgil. It’s just a nice story/tale to read.

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e5f03b  No.14789759

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>>14783257

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“(1.657f) Dido and Aeneas fall in love by the management of Juno and Venus, acting in concert, though for different reasons. (4.198f) When the rumour of the love affair comes to King Iarbas the Gaetulian, "a son of Jupiter Ammon by a raped Garamantian nymph", Iarbas prays to his father, blaming Dido who has scorned marriage with him yet now takes Aeneas into the country as her lord. (4.222f) Jupiter dispatches Mercury to send Aeneas on his way and the pious Aeneas sadly obeys. Mercury tells Aeneas of all the promising Italian lands and orders Aeneas to get his fleet ready.

(4.450f) Dido can no longer bear to live. (4.474) She has her sister Anna build her a pyre under the pretence of burning all that reminded her of Aeneas, including weapons and clothes that Aeneas had left behind and (what she calls) their bridal bed (though, according to Aeneas, they were never officially married.) (4.584f) When Dido sees Aeneas' fleet leaving she curses him and his Trojans and proclaims endless hate between Carthage and the descendants of Troy, foreshadowing the Punic Wars. (4.642) Dido ascends the pyre, lies again on the couch which she had shared with Aeneas, and then falls on a sword that Aeneas had given her. (4.666) Those watching let out a cry; Anna rushes in and embraces her dying sister; Juno sends Iris from heaven to release Dido's spirit from her body. (5.1) From their ships, Aeneas and his crew see the glow of Dido's burning funeral pyre and can only guess what has happened. At least two scholars have argued that the inclusion of the pyre as part of Dido's suicide—otherwise unattested in epic and tragedy—alludes to the self-immolation that took the life of Carthage's last queen (or the wife of its general Hasdrubal the Boetharch) in 146 BC.”

>> Noticed something here anons: no mention whatsoever about human sacrifice before she committed suicide. We have 2 different takes about her death and the reason behind it.

“(6.450f) During his journey in the underworld Aeneas meets Dido and tries to excuse himself, but Dido does not deign to look at him. Instead she turns away from Aeneas to a grove where her former husband Sychaeus waits.

Virgil has included most of the motifs from the original: Iarbas who desires Dido against her will, a deceitful explanation for the building of the pyre, and Dido's final suicide. In both versions Dido is loyal to her original husband in the end. But whereas the earlier Elissa remained always loyal to her husband's memory, Virgil's Dido dies as a tortured and repentant woman who has fallen away from that loyalty.

Virgil consistently uses the form Dido as nominative, but derivates of Elissa for the oblique cases.”

>> So this is a tragic love story from Virgil = fiction, not real events.

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e5f03b  No.14789762

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>>14789759

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“Later Roman tradition

Letter 7 of Ovid's Heroides is a feigned letter from Dido to Aeneas written just before she ascends the pyre. The situation is as in Virgil's Aeneid. In Ovid's Fasti (3.545f) Ovid introduced a kind of sequel involving Aeneas and Dido's sister Anna. See Anna Perenna.

The Barcids, the family to which Hannibal belonged, claimed descent from a younger brother of Dido according to Silius Italicus in his Punica (1.71–7).

The Augustan History ("Tyrrani Triginta" 27, 30) claims that Zenobia queen of Palmyra in the late third century was descended from Cleopatra, Dido and Semiramis.

Continuing tradition

In the Divine Comedy, Dante puts the shade of Dido in the second circle of Hell, where she is condemned (on account of her consuming lust) to be blasted for eternity in a fierce whirlwind.

This legend inspired the Renaissance drama Dido, Queen of Carthage by Christopher Marlowe.

Also from the 17th century is a ballad inspired by the relationship between Dido and Aeneas. The ballad, often printed on a broadside, is called "The Wandering Prince of Troy", and it alters the end of the relationship between the two lovers, rethinking Dido's final sentiment for Aeneas and rewriting Aeneas's visit to the underworld as Dido's choice to haunt him.

The story of Dido and Aeneas remained popular throughout the post-Renaissance era and was the basis for many operas, with the libretto by Metastasio, Didone abbandonata, proving especially popular with composers throughout the eighteenth century and beyond:

• 1641: La Didone by Francesco Cavalli

• 1656: La Didone by Andrea Mattioli

• 1689: Dido and Aeneas by Henry Purcell

• 1693: Didon by Henry Desmarets

• 1707: Dido, Königin von Carthago by Christoph Graupner

• 1724: Didone abbandonata by Domenico Sarro

• 1726: Didone abbandonata by Leonardo Vinci

• 1740: Didone abbandonata by Baldassare Galuppi

• 1742: Didone abbandonata by Johann Adolph Hasse

• 1747: Didone abbandonata by Niccolò Jommelli

• 1762: Didone abbandonata by Giuseppe Sarti

• 1770: Didone abbandonata by Niccolò Piccinni

• 1783: Didon by Niccolò Piccinni

• 1823: Didone abbandonata by Saverio Mercadante

• 1860: Les Troyens by Hector Berlioz

• 2007: Aeneas and Dido by James Rolfe (composer)

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e5f03b  No.14789764

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>>14789762

(Please read from the start)

“William Shakespeare refers to Dido twelve times in his plays: four times in The Tempest, albeit all in one dialogue, twice in Titus Andronicus, and also in Henry VI Part 2, Antony and Cleopatra, Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and most famously in The Merchant of Venice, in Lorenzo's and Jessica's mutual wooing:

In such a night

Stood Dido with a willow in her hand

Upon the wild sea banks and waft her love

To come again to Carthage

In 1794 Germany, Charlotte von Stein wrote her own drama named Dido, with an autobiographical element—as von Stein had been forsaken by her own lover, the famous Goethe, in a manner which she found reminiscent of Aeneas.

Even today, Dido appears in Sid Meier's strategy games Civilization II and Civilization V, as the leader of the Carthaginian civilization, although she appears alongside Hannibal in the former. In Civilization V, she speaks Phoenician, with a modern Israeli accent. In 2019, Dido was made the leader of Phoenicia in Civilization VI: Gathering Storm, with Tyre as its capital and Carthage as an available name for subsequent cities.”

>> (((They))) are Phoenician wannabes. It’s always been like this with the Jews and the Bloodlines. This is done on purpose = making Elissa speak Hebrew instead of Phoenician. It’s connected to everything I’ve said before about how the Jews calque the Phoenician civilization and culture.

“In honor of Dido, the asteroid 209 Dido, discovered in 1879, was named after her. Another dedication of Queen Dido is the Mount Dido in Antarctica.”

>> LoL! Would the fantasy queen of Carthage please reveal to us what’s in Antarctica? Anons whom are interested in the ice continent, maybe should focus a bit on that Mount. Maybe, just maybe they will find something. Just an idea, nothing more.

“Remembrance of the story of the bull's hide and the foundation of Carthage is preserved in mathematics in connection with the Isoperimetric problem which is sometimes called Dido's Problem (and similarly the Isoperimetric theorem is sometimes called Dido's Theorem). It is sometimes stated in such discussion that Dido caused her thong to be placed as a half circle touching the sea coast at each end (which would add greatly to the area) but the sources mention the thong only and say nothing about the sea.

Carthage was the Roman Republic's greatest rival and enemy, and Virgil's Dido in part symbolises this. Even though no Rome existed in her day, Virgil's Dido curses the future progeny of the Trojans. In Italy under the Fascist regime, her figure was demonized, perhaps not only as an anti-Roman figure but because she represented together at least three other "unpleasant" qualities: feminine virtue, "Semitic race", and North African civilization. As an example, when Benito Mussolini's regime named the streets of new quarters in Rome with the characters of Virgil's Aeneid, only the name Dido did not appear.”

>> Notice: “at least 3 other “unpleasant” qualities: feminine virtue, Semitic race and North African civilization.”

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e5f03b  No.14789776

>>14789764

(Please read from the start)

Anons already understand now what this is about with Elissa = Dido. The evidence is divided into 2 parts:

1 – Many victims were sacrificed to Elissa husband’s spirit as a pretense of a final honor to him.

2 – She stabbed herself then threw herself on top of the funeral pyre.

So the accusation is of practicing human sacrifice. And on top of that, for a shallow, stupid reason = final honor for her dead husband memory.

So here are my arguments for:

Part 1 = the sacrifice of many victims to honor the spirit of Elissa’s husband:

So we have an account from a Greek or a Latin source = late period, where it’s said that victims were sacrificed at the pyre. We don’t have a source, it disappeared. The supposed Punic archive has vanished. And it’s more than obvious that the Greek and Latin accounts were submitted to modifications or what I call mutations, additions and twisting. Each tried to adapt the story to his own understanding and to his own taste. Well, regardless of all that….let’s see what are the physical evidences we have dug up in Carthage. Remember what I always say anons: the text must match the artifact and not the artifact must match the text.

Do we have a ceremonial knife found somewhere = anywhere in Carthage, used in human sacrifice? We found ceremonial knives with the Aztecs (image page 273) and in the Andean Region many cultures practicing human sacrifice had ceremonial knives as well (example image page 450). A ceremonial knife is always found in sites where human sacrifice takes place. But strangely, not a single ceremonial knife was found in Carthage and a good chunk of the site is excavated. If human sacrifice was practiced to THAT extend, we should have found a few ceremonial knives during the excavations, not just one.

Do we have a ceremonial altar here in Carthage? We have a lot of them in Mesoamerica, mostly with the Aztecs. But again, none was found in Carthage despite the excavations.

We can disregard both of these unfound (= not finding them) elements by saying we cannot find a ceremonial sacrificial knife nor a sacrificial ceremonial altar because the victims were not slayed or stabbed but where thrown alive in fire. Fine, I accept that argument; it’s plausible.

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64a515  No.14796099

>>14789776

(Please read from the start)

Then let’s talk about the victims a bit: here we don’t have any details about the victims. We don’t know their age, their gender and their social background. So the word “victims” is very vague. We cannot lean on any side. If the victims are adults then the pyre must have been really big and I don’t think anyone would be brave enough to throw themselves into the fire like that. I mean they wouldn’t walk there willingly by themselves and just jump in it, like how you do in a pool. So if the victims were adults or teens, they must have been bound so they won’t fight back; that works even for children. It’s only with babies which were not bound by restraints since they cannot even walk. So either the victims were babies or if they were older, even a bit older, they were most probably tied up and thrown into the fire. It must have been one heck of a big fire if the victim was a teen or an adult. Mostly with the word MANY used as in we didn’t have a single victim sacrificed.

But Elissa was an adult and she threw herself in the pyre, which indicates the size of it. It must have been large enough to be able to take her in. As in this pyre was not set up for children victims or babies but for a bigger size victim, or Elissa herself wouldn’t have been able to throw herself in there and only end up with some burns if the pyre was small. I’m saying the size of the pyre is an indication that the victims were adults.

So let’s pretend the victims were burned alive….so where are the mass graves and where are the mass skeletons of adults and teens? Not a single mass grave of adults or young people were found in Carthage. Yes, a Tophet was found and we are going to talk about this later as one of the evidences, but here, I’m talking solely about adult or teen mass graves = none was found. So this means we can and should rule out the sacrifice of adults and teens taking place in Carthage since we didn’t find any tangible evidence supporting this of taking place.

Please be a bit patient with the children sacrifice, I’m going to reach it soon. For now, let’s just concentrate on this evidence of Elissa and clear things out.

So we don’t have a mass grave with victim’s skeletons, no ceremonial sacrificial knives and no sacrificial ceremonial altars. Keep this in mind.

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64a515  No.14796108

>>14796099

(Please read from the start)

Part 2: Elissa stabbing herself and throwing herself in the pyre.

Here, we don’t have a single artifact proving Elissa ever existed. We are also uncertain if any supposed member of her family truly existed. The evidence presented is untrustworthy or still unclear. And if the “men” mentioned in her story did exist for real, like the kings of Tyre mentioned in her story, we have nothing tangible linking her to them, so we don’t know if she is inserted in the story or if she was real.

Then comes the proposed chronology about her; the many proposed chronologies about her. There are 2 dates which are terribly disturbing about her regardless when it is exactly = the exact date.

A – The first disturbing date is the date of her departure. Regardless of when it was exactly, Elissa was extremely young when she left Tyre = still a teen. And the shock comes that she was already married and she had to flee her greedy brother.

B – The second disturbing date is when she supposedly killed herself. Regardless of the date, she must have been an old woman when she stabbed herself and then threw herself in the fire. I’m having a very hard time imagining her to be a catch for marriage at this old age with either Aeneas and/or Iarbas.

If the king of the Maxitani wanted a bride to take the throne of Carthage, then he would have married a young woman whom could have given him heirs = making him a real legitimate king. If he married an old woman, then she cannot give birth to heirs which will always endanger the legitimacy of his reign and any other relative of Elissa, like a cousin or even a close aid can overthrow him years later and retake the throne from him. But if there is a legitimate heir from Elissa herself, then Iarbas can rule as a guardian or regent till the child becomes an adult.

So it makes no sense for both Aeneas and Iarbas to want to marry an old queen. It’s more logical for them to marry the daughter or even the granddaughter of Elissa and not Elissa herself as an old woman. So you see anons, it’s hard for me to accept the storyline given to us, at both points = departure and death of Elissa. None of it makes sense.

Regardless of all of this, Elissa’s death is clearly a suicide and she not a human sacrificial victim. Her story of remaining faithful to her first husband to a point of killing herself can be considered as a dramatic, tragic love story. I see no difference between her story and that of Romeo & Juliet, Cleopatra & Anthony and Isolde & Tristan. For me the tale of Elissa is nothing but an urban legend, a fairy tale fantasy, written as a poem or a good narration for a theatrical piece.

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64a515  No.14796125

>>14796108

(Please read from the start)

We don’t know if Elissa existed for real or not. There isn’t a single archaeological artifact to support that. Same goes for her supposed family back in Tyre. It’s clear her story has mutated many times already in Greek and then in Roman times; so we are unsure how pure and how true that story is. There are many inconsistencies and holes in the story. We have no evidence of adult victims sacrificed at Carthage and certainly no Virgins or maidens were sacrificed there as some like to claim. As for Elissa’s death, if it truly happened, it was a tragic suicide and nothing to do with a ritualistic human sacrifice. Incredibly, some “experts” take this story as evidence against the Phoenicians and accuse them of practicing human sacrifice despite all the inconsistencies and major flaws to this story.

This will remain for me a work of fiction until something tangible is found directly linked to it = the story. Some experts like to site the Tophet of Carthage as a proof this story being true. I see them separately. Maybe, just maybe there were children sacrificed in Carthage but…nothing proves the “supposed” sacrificed children in Carthage were the victims sacrificed in the story of Elissa. We found nothing in the Tophet or in the urns containing the remains of the children, pointing to Elissa or linking it in any way to her story. The Tophet exists and the story of Elissa exists, but there is nothing linking them one to another; no symbol, no inscription, no relief etc. nothing links them.

So again, until tangible, decisive proof is found on Elissa, her story remains a work of fiction for this old man and I cannot consider this work of fantasy as a piece of evidence against the Phoenicians. It’s not because Elissa migrated from Tyre to Carthage where supposed human sacrifice took place, that it means it was the same situation back in Tyre.

Some “experts” to support their claims about the story of Elissa being evidence of the Phoenicians practicing human sacrifice also push forward the 80 women prostituting themselves on the shores of Cyprus (page 1 457). They push this forward as evidence of the moral degeneracy of the Phoenicians. Well, I’ve already explained the Phoenicians used to name their genealogy = in other words, they used to make sure the mother and father were from known family as in both had ancestry….they were not just random people picked up on some beach without knowing their family tree.

Also, here it’s clear these 80 prostitutes are a reference or pointing to the sacred prostitution being practiced in Cyprus. So why not point the finger at Cyprus? Why only point it to the Phoenicians in this story? We also know this is part of the cult of the Evil Lady, so why not point it to Ephesus which was a huge center where the sacred prostitution was practiced? Why not Ascalon or any other place? This moral degeneracy was practiced all over the ancient world = anywhere the cult of the Evil Lady was present.

The Romans practiced it heavily, and the third wife of the Roman Emperor Claudius, called Messalina, was famous for whoring herself and practicing heavily the sacred prostitution. So why only point the finger at the Phoenicians to highlight their supposed moral degeneracy? See how propaganda works? I think this is a smear. Yes, you read this correctly, I think the 80 prostitutes on the beach is nothing but a smear to highlight the supposed moral degeneracy of the Phoenicians.

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64a515  No.14796129

>>14796125

(Please read from the start)

The story of Elissa is used by some accusers against the Phoenicians as evidence they practiced human sacrifice. I’ve already talked in length about it all, going through the details. It’s more than clear there is nothing tangible there and it’s just a story which mutated many times. As I’ve said many times before, for me, this is a tragic love story and nothing more. This cannot be considered as evidence the Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice since there is nothing tangible in this story and it’s just that…a story. Anons can make up their own minds and they can go dig for themselves and weigh things in if this can be considered as evidence against the Phoenicians or if it’s a bogus story.

Evidence 3: No evidence is evidence of itself.

Are you surprised there anons? The title says it all. So far, we found not a single tangible, physical, direct evidence tying directly the Phoenicians to human sacrifice. And the NONE EXISTENCE of EVIDENCE is considered by me as evidence supporting the INNOCENCE of the Phoenicians against their accusers. Let me explain things a bit.

Taking example from Evidence number 2 (just above), Elissa comes from Tyre right? Well, guess what? = Most of Tyre was excavated, as in most of the ancient city was FULLY excavated. The excavations revealed the ancient city all the way till Roman times and of course the Necropolis was found. No ceremonial sacrificial knife was found. No ceremonial sacrificial altar was found. No mass grave with bodies dumped in it was found. No children mass grave was found.

There is a small sector still untouched because of some local problems with a Muslim cemetery. But it’s clear, what’s underneath that small sector is not a burial ground but there are building foundations extending from the next parcel all the way to under the cemetery. So the archaeologists are expecting to find some buildings there, maybe a housing sector or a market sector or some warehouses. Certainly not a burial site. You simply don’t dump sacrificed human victims remains in the middle of a housing sector or market sector.

Amazing isn’t it anons? According to the Main Stream History and the “experts” on the matter, Elissa or in general the Phoenicians brought along with them from the Motherland Phoenicia their practice of human sacrifice when they founded Carthage. Yet, in Motherland Phoenicia not a single tangible evidence was found indicating human sacrifice took place.

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64a515  No.14796141

>>14796129

(Please read from the start)

Yes, graves and tombs were found. And they were all checked very carefully for any tiny sign indicating of human sacrifice taking place. Nothing was found. They found broken bones. They found worn out bones on the joints. They found skulls with holes in them with clear signs of bone regrowth; like how it was in the Andean Region; which indicates this is a surgery to relief the pressure from the brain and the person lived long enough after the procedure for his skull bones to regrow – identical case to what we saw in the Andes. And yet, not a single skeleton, not even a single bone was found in Motherland Phoenician soil with traces of being a victim of human sacrifice. Add to it that no one found a mass grave where the sacrificial victims were dumped in, no sacrificial knife was found and no sacrificial altar was found.

How many times in the Old Testament Tyre is mentioned as being a big hub of human sacrifice? Said directly or indirectly? How many times was the City-State of Tyre accused of being a center of immoral practices and a center of evil? How many times the Tyre or its king were being portrayed as extremely vile to us? And yet, nothing was found in Tyre to support those claims. Weird, isn’t it?

Well, maybe this is just simply a coincidence. Maybe this was found elsewhere in Phoenicia, right? Guess what? Apart Tyre, there are also 2 additional famous Phoenician City-States which were fully excavated: Byblos/Gebal which we know Dunand excavated it, mostly the Phoenician sector. And there is Ugarit, which is in nowadays Syria, not Lebanon; in other words it was done by another team, under the supervision of another government. And guess what? Nothing was found in those City-States as well.

Tyre, Gebal and Ugarit were 3 major City-States which at one point in history were considered as the top ones in Phoenicia. So, if the Phoenicians practiced heavily human sacrifice, then we should have found something, anything in those important City-States confirming human sacrifice was practiced in them. Yet, nothing at all was found; no altar, no knife, no mass grave, no inscription, no skeletons with marking on them etc. Nothing at all. Amazing isn’t it anons? You think we didn’t check every single bone dug up from Motherland Phoenicia? Because we did and we event went all the way in the Greek and then Roman eras, we didn’t stop in the Phoenician era. Guess what? We found nothing.

And this is conveniently not mentioned at all by the accusers of the Phoenicians? We have no body, no murder weapon, no murder scene; and yet, we have an accused of murder and an accuser. To say Elissa took with her the practice of human sacrifice while moving to Carthage, then it means we gotta find something of that in Tyre mostly, in Phoenicia generally. Yet, nothing was found. The excavation records are all there, anons can check the raw data themselves and examine the bones themselves if they want to.

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64a515  No.14796154

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>>14796141

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When you go to check all around the world about victims of executions or religious sacrificial victims, you will find out that the remains of the victims were either put on display/ hoarded, like what was the case with the Aztecs (images page 273). Or you will find the victims were simply dumped in the grave with indications of them being tied up and/ or traces on the bones indicating the use of a blade (or some traces on the bones indicating they were killed).

Like what? Let me give you this tiny example of a mass grave found in Greece. This is a mass grave where people were simply dumped in it. They took part of a failed political coup and they were caught. Just notice the disrespectful way they were buried in = the bodies were tossed in the pit and then covered in soil – see how their hands are tied up? There is no indication whatsoever the bodies were properly buried with respect, nicely clothed, put in a nice coffins and family members mourned them. Usually, sacrificed victim’s bodies (or executed) don’t get any care or honors after they are killed. They are simply disposed of.

Please check out this article and this picture attached to it about a mass grave in the necropolis near Athens, Greece: https://www.archaeology.org/issues/240-1701/features/5112-athens-mass-grave

And I’ve also found a “possible” human sacrifice practiced in Greece: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/aug/10/skeletal-remains-confirm-ancient-greeks-engaged-in-human-sacrifice

Look how it’s carefully worded but when it comes to the Phoenicians, they just swing immediately the accusations; while here, they are being very careful of not rushing into the accusation because they don’t want to damage the public image, the public perception about the Greek civilization, but they are alright with destroying the Phoenicians. See the difference?

I’m going to put a few interesting paragraphs from this article:

“[…]

Mount Lykaion was associated with human sacrifice by many ancient writers, including Plato, and while it may be too early to speculate on how the teenager died, the location adds a strong connection. “It nearly seems to good to be true,” said Dr Jan N Bremmer, professor emeritus of religious studies at the University of Groningen, Netherlands, and an editor of The Strange World of Human Sacrifice.

Bremmer said that until now, most studies of human sacrifice in ancient Greece had concluded that it was probably fiction. While the ancient Israelites, Romans and Egyptians engaged in human sacrifice for religious purposes, 20th-century archaeologists had thought that the practice was not common among the Greeks.

Bremmer remained somewhat skeptical about the finding and questioned whether the location influenced the interpretation.”

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64a515  No.14796165

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>>14796154

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“David Gilman Romano, professor of Greek archaeology at the University of Arizona, who participated in the dig on Mount Lykaion said classical writers linked the remote peak with human sacrifice. According to legend, a young boy would be sacrificed with animals, before the human and animal meat was cooked and eaten. “Several ancient literary sources mention rumours that human sacrifice took place at the altar [of Zeus, located on the mountain’s southern peak] but up until a few weeks ago there has been no trace whatsoever of human bones discovered at the site,” said Romano.

“Whether it’s a sacrifice or not, this is a sacrificial altar … so it’s not a place where you would bury an individual,” he said. “It’s not a cemetery.”

He noted that the fact that the upper part of the skull was missing, while the body was laid among two lines of stones on an east-west axis, with stone slabs covering the pelvis was also interesting.

Bremmer said scholars tend to be fascinated by the prospect of human sacrifice in ancient Greece because it seems like a contradiction.

“On the one hand there’s this picture of Greece as the cradle of civilisation, the birthplace of democracy, of philosophy, of rational thinking – but on the other hand we have these cruel cruel myths,” he said.

[…]”

>> See how carefully this is worded and how it’s handled? They surely don’t want to stain the stellar public image of the Greek civilization. Hypocrites! If it turns out to be true, if this new discovery of the teen skeleton confirms the Greeks practiced human sacrifice, then in this case, it means the ancient texts matched the archaeological findings. Which is the correct way to proceed. It’s always the texts that gotta match the archaeological findings = tangible evidence. It’s NOT the other way around = archaeological artifacts matching the texts. Writers, ancient and recent, can be biased, so it’s up to physical, solid, tangible evidence to shed light on the truth. If it happens the text matches the artifact, then it’s a good text. If the text doesn’t match or contradicts the artifacts, then the text is incorrect, it’s biased and it’s a lie. Hard tangible evidence do not lie nor can be biased; but people lie and are biased sometimes.

We have many stories from Ancient Greece where human sacrifice is being practiced; like how King Agamemnon decides to sacrifice his daughter Iphigenia to Artemis. There is also the sacrifice of Polyxena daughter of king Priam. She is sacrificed by the Greeks on the tomb of Achilles. We can say all of these are just stories, just like the story of Elissa. Yeah…it was true….till a human skeleton of a teen was found, in a rumored place where human sacrifice took place with what looks like traces on the skeleton indicating he was sacrificed. But… it’s just the preliminary findings, again, no need to rush and it’s better to wait for the final results of the full examination of the skeleton. Also in the article about this teen sacrificed, they mentioned that only 7% of the site was excavated so far; so it will be wiser to wait anons and see what further excavations will unveil in that specific site. But no one waited to be sure when accusing the Phoenicians of practicing human sacrifice.

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20bb82  No.14801491

>>14796165

(Please read from the start)

So you see anons, even the ancient Greeks themselves wrote about human sacrifice being practiced in Greece, but we don’t see anyone pointing the finger, accusing them and destroying their public image. This is done solely to the Phoenicians. This is brainwashing anons. The moment Qteam put the picture of Gloria Vanderbilt, anons automatically pointed the human sacrifice practiced by the Phoenicians and they never thought of naming the Aztecs for example. It was an amazing phenomena to watch because it shows how you are all programed. I mean how the public is programed to have a word match in their heads; as in when the public hears human sacrifice, he automatically thinks Phoenicians….but not the rest of the cultures and civilizations worldwide whom practiced it as well.

Some of the civilizations were proven to have practiced human sacrifice like the Aztecs. We found their ceremonial altar, knife and we found all of those human remains with sacrificial marks on the bones. But in some other cases, there is also a rush to label everything under the big umbrella of human sacrifice while it’s clearly not the case like how it was the case with queen Puabi’s servants and how it was the case with the cult of the ancestors in the Andean Region. There is a lot of work to be done here anons to clear things up. And we shouldn’t rush into classifying everything under the umbrella of human sacrifice.

By the way…(((they))) did the same in the Andean Region = rushing in saying human sacrifice was practiced while there were some sites with clear indication it did not take place, but it was the cult of the ancestors taking place and not human sacrifice. For those interested, please go back and read the Andean Region.

We should check for the evidence and the trail of clues. And as the title of this third evidence says = the lack of evidence is evidence of itself. As in there is a huge lack of evidence the Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice on the soil of Motherland Phoenicia…this is evidence that NO such thing happened there.

The cult of the Evil Lady entered the periphery of the Lebanese mountain range way before it made its way into the heart of Phoenicia. Despite this, there is no evidence unearthed at all in all Phoenician City-States indicating human sacrifice took place there = no ceremonial knives, no ceremonial altars, no mass graves, no marking on the bones. Where is the evidence? There is none. Which in turns means = human sacrifice was not practiced on Motherland Phoenician soil.

I talked once about while discussing the temple of Eshmun, that the Phoenician City-States might turn out older then what we are told. Like the case of Byblos/Gebal, it’s so old, that if human sacrifice was taking place there, we would have found mountains of skeletons and hundreds of graves with sacrificial victims in them. But we didn’t find any. We did find a few ex-votos of soldiers near the temple of Baalat of Gebal which were immediately interpreted as proof of sacrificial victims despite the FACT there is nothing pointing/indicating that to be true.

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20bb82  No.14801506

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>>14801491

(Please read from the start)

But what about the Phoenician colonies? First of all, let me point out that I’m talking here about ADULT or TEEN sacrificial victims and that I’m leaving the children for evidence number 4 part.

So in the colonies, which were excavated so far, we haven’t found any of the elements I’ve been talking about indicating human sacrifice took place there. The biggest and the most important Phoenician colony out there was Carthage. So let’s take a look at it a bit.

I’m attaching maps of the layout of Carthage so anons would know where everything is located. We are going to talk about ADULT/teen sacrificial victims and not children, please keep that in mind. So here again, in Carthage, we have nothing indicating human sacrifice took place. You see where the necropolis is located. It’s been excavated. And yet, there are no inscriptions, no reliefs, no mass graves indicating human sacrifice took place. No ceremonial altars or knives were found as well. No skeletons with knife marks were found, no skeletons with restrains on them were found. The necropolis in Carthage is just a standard one, nothing out of the ordinary there.

Go check it out anons, I hope you will find something because I sure can’t. I haven’t found anything for decades now, and my old teacher was there a long time before me. There is nothing worth mentioning about the Punic necropolis at Carthage. So here again, there is no evidence of human sacrifice taking place in Carthage. If you don’t get what I’m saying, please go online and compare with the mass graves of human sacrifice victims from all over the world and see what you will find.

One last thing about Carthage: I want to make a clarification about an artifact. I’m attaching to this page pictures of the Delattre sarcophagus found in Carthage. Some explain this as being representing a priestess. In page 1 314, I’ve put pictures of this relief on the lid of the sarcophagus saying it’s Atargatis wearing Greek/Roman style tunic. I believe this is her, or at least an imitation of her by the priestess. I was a bit in a rush to explain about the clothing, so I didn’t explain about the sarcophagus. I’m making that clarification now. Sorry about that, I didn’t mean to confuse the reader.

What I’m trying to say is that regardless of whom the lady of the relief is, I think the clothing represent what Atargatis used to wear and what even the Egyptian female deities used to wear….it’s the wings folded on the body on top of the tunic = it mutated into the corset we see on Atargatis and/or other Middle Eastern local forms of the Evil Lady. This is the origin of the confusion with the mermaid form and the corset iconography. And both can be linked back to Atargatis = this is her type of clothing. This type of clothing can be traced back to Atargatis. We see similarities with what female deities wear in Ancient Egypt as well; like Isis. I hope I explained things properly now.

Let me conclude evidence 3 by saying it again: no evidence is evidence of itself…but this time it’s for the benefit of the Phoenicians, it’s not against them.

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20bb82  No.14801513

>>14801506

(Please read from the start)

Evidence 4: Tophet of Carthage and other similar Tophet in the colonies.

Let’s start with the name “Tophet” – what is a Tophet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tophet

“Tophet or Topheth (Hebrew: תֹּוֹפֶת‎ Tōpeṯ; Greek: Ταφέθ Taféth; Latin: Topheth) is a term originating in the Hebrew Bible. In the Bible, it was a location in Jerusalem in the Gehinnom, where worshipers engaged in a ritual involving "passing a child through the fire", most likely child sacrifice. Traditionally, the sacrifices have been ascribed to a god named Moloch. The Bible condemns and forbids these sacrifices, and the tophet is eventually destroyed by king Josiah, although mentions by the prophets Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Isaiah suggest that the practices associated with the tophet may have persisted.”

>> So the origin of the word is Hebrew. Amazing how it’s never brought to the attention of the public, mostly the Christian Americans, that the Jews also practiced the sacrifice of children = passing a child through fire. An accusation only glued to the Phoenicians. Why when they mention the Phoenicians used to sacrifice children don’t they also mention the Jews used to do the same thing? Oh! Wait a minute. It’s “most likely” the Jews sacrificed children, so they may be unsure of it, right?! See how high the level of hypocrisy is anons? When Qteam posted the image of Gloria Vanderbilt with that hideous thing above their beds, all anons also cried out the Phoenicians/Canaanites practice child sacrifice. Well, why no one mentioned the Jews doing it as well? Why no one mentioned the Aztec doing it as well? Why no one mentioned the Incas doing it as well?

I’m all for calling this disgusting act out, but I still don’t understand after all this time, after many decades, why the sole focus is on the Phoenicians? I don’t understand why the condemnation is solely for the Phoenicians, while the Aztecs and others get kinda a pass? = well, by that I mean the public opinion of them practicing human sacrifice, is diluted and we only see the grudge towards the Phoenicians – the finger pointing and the spite only takes place toward the Phoenicians not the other cultures. For all of these decades, I never understood why the focus was on the Phoenicians. I’m all for treating everyone fairly and equally = treating everyone the same. But I see no equality in this situation.

The Phoenicians are singled out as the most vicious of all. They are condemned in public opinion of the most hideous crimes ever, solely because of ONE BOOK = the Bible. If the Bible mentioned the Aztecs instead of the Phoenicians, I’m sure we would have seen this venomous attitude towards the Aztecs by the so called Christians of the West. In other words, you = the public are being steered by one book.

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20bb82  No.14801539

>>14801513

(Please read from the start)

Isn’t this propaganda? Back then, there were no television, no radio, no internet….so how do you spread propaganda when most of the public cannot read and write? = through religious books whom are preached by the mafia priesthood. Do I need to explain this more? And this isn’t done when Christ was around. Oh no! This technique has been around for an extremely long time, used by the Jews and the Bloodlines. We’ve seen how biased the texts were about Inanna….this is how you know whomever wrote this, was leaning towards her, painting a good image of her.

Yes, the Bible does condemn the Tophet….but, they never highlighted it was used by the Jews in it. That FACT is conveniently left out when you go to Church and hear the sermons of the priest/pastor. Let’s not damage the precious public image of the Jews in front of Christians; let’s keep them on leash.

Another convenient point is the number of Tophets. No one tells you there was more than one. I really do hope king Josiah, truly, did destroy ONE Tophet….because this is like the cult of Inanna and like the practice of the sacred prostitution = it had MANY centers. As in there were MANY Tophets in MANY Jewish City-States (or places with big Jewish population), and not just ONE SINGLE Tophet. This is why Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah mention it….because there were more than ONE of them and yes….I agree, the practice NEVER stopped.

The sacrifices kept on going till this day, and we have Epstein Temple underground to prove it. If this was part of Judaism from the get go, do you think it left Judaism or is it still in it? Some Sheep like to distinguish or draw lines between the Jews and the Bloodlines using all sorts of distorted logic and excuses. Those… are pitiful. Why? Because none understand the Darkness and how it works. It uses hosts, where it stays dormant in it till it’s time for it to come out. These hosts carry that parasite in them and they are unaware of what they have in them; until it comes out and the host turns, shows his true colors. The poison is imbedded inside the doctrine. Those whom follow the doctrine = Judaism, carry that parasitic poison within them and they keep it alive each time they practice Judaism. Such people will be given 2 options to choose from by the Light:

1 – They totally reject, renounce their old religion/ways and change for a new one = yes, they must converge towards Christ. I’m not saying they should become Christian, I’m saying they should accept Christ and stop rejecting him and denying he our Savior.

2 – They keep on holding onto their rotten religion and they will burn along with it.

I don’t care whom it is, there are only 2 options in front of such people and whatever path they chose to walk on will seal their fate. This also includes the blind Christian Sheep whom put the temple first, before Christ himself = Christ is life and when you chose Armageddon = you are choosing death. After the reign of Satan, Christ will come to save the handle of humans left. The rest, would have perished under the rule of Satan. This is Armageddon. So don’t rejoice too much for the construction of that temple because it will trigger the torture, starvation and then the death of 99.9999% of mankind. Muslims will have to make a choice too at some point in time; so does the Buddhists. The Light will test everyone and see the choices they will make.

I’ve said this before: Heaven is angry, very angry. If you believe this or not is up to you.

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20bb82  No.14801546

>>14801539

(Please read from the start)

“Most scholars agree that the ritual performed at the tophet was child sacrifice, and they connect it to similar episodes throughout the Bible and recorded for the ancient Phoenicians (referred to as Canaanites in the Bible) and Carthaginians by Greco-Roman sources. There is disagreement about whether the sacrifices were offered to a god Moloch. Based on Phoenician and Carthaginian inscriptions, a growing number of scholars believe that Moloch refers to the type of sacrifice rather than a deity. There is currently a dispute as to whether these sacrifices were dedicated to Yahweh rather than a foreign deity.”

>> We now know for certain that there has been child sacrifice taking place for centuries and still taking place. The practice never stopped. Here, they jump from citing the Bible to Greco-Roman sources into accusing solely the Phoenicians/ Canaanites and their relatives the Carthaginians. Amazing how these “scholars” OMIT to mention this was practiced by the Jews, and other ancient civilizations as the Aztecs and the Greeks for example. The focus is only on the Phoenicians. Look how beautifully it is worded: “there is disagreement” about the deity or type of the sacrifices are made. This means the scholars all agree and converge the Phoenicians practiced Child sacrifice. With what proof? = the only proof mentioned are the Jewish, Greek and Roman sources. We will be talking about these later anons; I consider these as witnesses, not evidence, so this comes after I finish with the evidence.

Is Moloch a Phoenician deity? = “a Semitic god to whom children were sacrificed.”

This is the definition given in the dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Moloch#h1

Whom are the Semitic people? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic-speaking_peoples

“Ancient Semitic-speaking peoples or Proto-Semitic people were Western Asian people who lived throughout the ancient Near East, including the Levant, Mesopotamia, the Arabian Peninsula, and the Horn of Africa from the 3rd millennium BC until the end of antiquity.

Their languages are usually divided into three branches: East, Central and South Semitic languages. The Proto-Semitic language was likely spoken in the 4th millennium BC, and the oldest attested forms of Semitic date to the mid-3rd millennium BC (the Early Bronze Age).

Speakers of East Semitic include the people of the Akkadian Empire, Assyria and Babylonia. Central Semitic combines the Northwest Semitic languages and Arabic. Speakers of Northwest Semitic were the Canaanites (including the Phoenicians and the Hebrews) and the Arameans. South Semitic peoples include the speakers of Modern South Arabian languages and Ethiopian Semitic languages.

[…]”

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0ba0d7  No.14807188

>>14801546

(Please read from the start)

>> The word Semitic is a big umbrella which gathers under it loads of cultures and civilizations which were located on the East of the Mediterranean Sea, along with Ethiopia. When they say that Moloch was a Semitic deity, it doesn’t specify which Semitic sub group it is referring to, but acts like a huge umbrella to include EVERY SEMITIC people. In other words, this includes the Jews. But amazingly, only the Phoenicians/Canaanites are singled out as being the worshipers of Moloch, while the rest of the civilizations/cultures/people are omitted. How convenient not to mention the Jews in this cocktail!

It is hinted that the Phoenicians might be the ones whom “injected” the cult of Moloch into the Judaism. If this is true, then it means we’ve been lied to about the Jews worshiping only ONE GOD by the Jews themselves and that they were polytheists, worshiping the Evil Lady and now we see them worship Moloch. If this is not true, then it means this is a lie and a false accusation solely to damage the public image of the Phoenician. Either way, there is a lie.

I haven’t looked into Moloch, I’ve never been interested in such stuff, mostly the Satanism and the cult. What I know is that there is no such thing as Moloch in the Phoenician/Canaanite pantheon. When you look at the Phoenician deity list and/or deity family tree…there is no such thing as Moloch in them. So why is it said that Moloch is originally Phoenician/Canaanite when it’s not and there is nothing indicating to that = no tangible evidence. Moloch is glued to the Phoenicians in the minds of the public but when you try to find him in Phoenician artifacts and/or mythology, you don’t find him. While he is clearly mentioned as being a deity known by the Jews, he is NOT present in Phoenicia. Anons, if I dig, what will I find about him? Will I find him to be solely a Jewish deity? Or is he an “import” into Judaism from the neighbors as it’s suggested about him? I’m not going to go there now or I will diverge from my goals, but for those whom are interested, you should start to dig as Moloch NOT BEING PHOENICIAN.

If I look at the background of these scholars, what will I find? Whom is paying them? Whom are they working for? And what’s this new idea of Moloch not being a name but being a word to describe a particular type/ genre of human sacrifice practice? So let me ask: what do we know about the sacrificial cult of Moloch? = Nothing, apart it’s children being passed at some point through fire for Moloch.

We don’t know if they used candlea, incense, if they danced, what they wore, if they chanted, used drums or hallucinogenic…did they use the 4 primal elements during the ritual? Well, we do know nowadays Bloodlines and Kabballah still sacrifice to Moloch. What was the name of that Clinton aid/lawyer from WikiLeaks e-mails? You know, the one sacrificing a rooster to Moloch; or whatever that was? So we know the ritual included sacrifice of a living thing = either animal or human. This is about modern day sacrifice, what about the ancient times? How was ir bac k then?

Qteam changed a lot of things for me, it made me realize something important about the sacrifices to Moloch. I used to think the children or the victims, were tied up and simply thrown while being alive into the fire. But…I found out I was wrong and what’s under Epstein Island Temple is a good proof of how the ritual of Moloch was practiced. It was bloody, it was disgusting , it was messy and it included cannibalism. We don’t know from the Bible what used to take place in the ritual of sacrificing for Moloch. But we do know what nowadays Kabballah and Bloodlines do when practicing that same ritual. Did the ritual reach to us as it was from way back? Or did it change?

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0ba0d7  No.14807207

>>14807188

(Please read from the start)

No, I think there must be “some” mutations and changes applied to it. Some…but to which extend? We are going to talk about this a bit further, so for now, just think about what I’m saying. One thing is for sure about the sacrifice for Moloch…it’s NOT as simple as throwing the children into the fire but this ritual is more elaborated and there are more steps/actions being done in it, than only/simply throwing children into fire. So saying Moloch is not a name but a word to describe a very specific way to perform human sacrifice might be true. MIGHT!

But I do have a very simple question: these scholars, how did they know about this issue? How did they know Moloch is a way/ method/ form of children sacrifice and not a name? Is this the type of information that is considered as public knowledge? Can I find this type of information in just any book, in any library? What they have to back up this claim? Oh yes. They mentioned the inscriptions = the Phoenician and Carthaginian inscriptions. Good. Which ones? Please present them. Can anyone provide me the codes for these inscriptions (in plural) so I can go check them out and read them? Because I’ve been searching for such inscriptions for an extremely long time = many decades, and I sure didn’t find any till now. I’m all for finding tangible evidence you know = Saint Thomas.

I also want to check out the context of these inscriptions as in whom translated them and where and how they were found. Amazing how this is not mentioned. And even more amazing is that I’ve spent a lifetime trying to find a single inscription of the sort….and yet…. I am still empty handed. Even more and more amazing is the translation made of these “unnamed”, unknown inscriptions. I didn’t know it was that easy to translate Phoenician and it was even easier to translate Punic. The big breakthrough in the translation of these 2 forgotten languages has totally slipped the media’s and my notice as well. I never realized after all of this time chasing after unicorns and fairies that an unnamed genius scholar finally broke the code and translated solely the Phoenico-Punic inscriptions related uniquely to Moloch. The rest of the few inscriptions we’ve got can wait to be deciphered. This is pure B.S. anons. This is a lie and it’s totally misleading. If the code was already deciphered and we can easily read Phoenicians and understand it, I wouldn’t even be here on this board, posting each day = the mystery would have been solved a long time ago and there would have been academic and media fanfare about it.

Believe what you want, but let me tell you that if such inscriptions were found and translated correctly, the whole controversy about the Phoenicians practicing human sacrifice would have ended a LONG time ago and there wouldn’t be any new studies coming out about it nor anything left to debate. The file would have been closed and we would have moved onto something else.

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0ba0d7  No.14807411

Justice has been served today. I hope it will lessen the pain of the victims. And I hope the rest will follow soon.

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65e6b5  No.14813234

>>14807207

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One last thing about Moloch’s iconography = him having a cow’s head. There are 2 possible explanations for this iconography of Moloch:

1 – Moloch was a warrior/member of the Lamassu clan, but he betrayed them and joined the Evil Couple in their plot and became a traitor. By joining the Evil Couple and their new cult, he became a pedovore himself. This is why we have Moloch represented with the head of a cow/Taurus.

2 – Moloch was never a Canaanite deity, he originally was depicted with an Antelope head just like Baphomet; in fact, they could be one and the same but it suffered from a misinterpretation and a mutation = it switched from Antelope to Lamassu with the migration waves from Mesopotamia to Syria (many of them). I think this is where the origin of the cult of Moloch is from = the migrating members of the Evil Clan carried it with them to Israel and Syria when they were kicked out the City-States in Mesopotamia. They traveled for a long time and settled finally in Jerusalem, which was a hub made of people like them = kicked out of the Phoenician and Canaanite City-States because they practiced children sacrifice = they were rejected by society. These travelers brought along with them the imagery of their HORNED DEITY = the EVIL LADY SYMBOL, but at some point in time it mutated from Antelope to Lamassu.When exactly? I don’t know.

To support that, I want to refer anons to page 959, please do read the first poem about Lamashtu. She is the daughter of Heaven, she TORTURED BABIES = Pedovore. Which means the ritual of sacrificing children included torturing them to produce Adrenochrome, just like what nowadays Bloodlines and Kabballah do in the underground of Epstein Island Temple. Look at Lamashtu’s personality and character = this is the Evil Lady = Inanna. Please go read what I’ve written about her and her personality. Then, it’s mentioned that Lamashtu pulls out babies from pregnant women bellies. This is a common point of the Horned Serpent warriors = this is why warriors of the Light protected not just children, but also pregnant women, including during childbirth.

Then in this poem, they say that Lamashtu is ONE of the GODS = this means she is a Sebetti queen, one of the 7 divine rulers. And….she has “brothers” = in plural. So at least she had 2 brothers like what we’ve been talking about in this thread. The potential 2 brothers are: the Evil One and the Crown Prince. With the possibility that the other 2 Sebetti kings might turn out to be her brothers as well….definitely her relatives; as in part of the royal family. But I’m inclined to see them more as brothers to the Great King, than His children. Maybe I’m wrong, it’s hard to figure out these 2 Sebetti kings, mostly with little personal information I’ve got about Viracocha.

The head of Lamashtu being a lion and her body that of a donkey could be an inspiration (for the translation) from the iconography on the bronze Plaque of the Hells – remember how Main Stream History said she was kneeling on a donkey, while I said this is a horse representing symbolically Armenia? So I think whomever translated this, made sure to get the narrative in line with what was said about the bronze Plaque of the Hells.

So you see anons, to support my artifact, I used that poem. Both combined, they point to the MANY migration waves that came out from Mesopotamia and settled in Western Semetic lands. I’ve already explain how the cult of the Evil Lady = Atargatis = Dea Syria, spread. This section came from Mesopotamia, but others must have come down from the Taurus mountain chain straight down to Syria. Different routes, different waves of migrations. This can cause confusion and mutation.

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65e6b5  No.14813241

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>>14813234

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Another point to support that the original iconography of Moloch could actually be from the Antelope = cult of the Evil Lady; is a classical representation of Moloch, dating back from a century or two ago. I’m putting with this page the 2 most famous representation of Moloch, the standard ones.

In the first picture we see a priest “handing” over a baby to the statue of Moloch. He’s represented with the head of a bovine and his arms are outstretched in a way as if he is receiving something or about to be holding something in them. There are other people around them, some are prostrating themselves in front of him, some women are given a child to the high priest to be presented to Moloch, while others are playing musical instruments (drums and trumpets). I don’t know where they got their information to draw these details on this representation of Moloch, but I’m not that surprised to see them because we know, usually, in ritual, no matter what the type it is, there are many stuff taking place all in one go, like burning incense and using musical instruments etc.

The second standard representation of Moloch got my attention because of 2 details in it:

A – Look at the 7 “chambers” on the torso of the statue. We know number 7 represents the Seven Divine Rulers of Atlantis or of Heaven. The person whom drew this, how did he know about number 7? Does this indicate the Bloodlines knew, since the 18-19th centuries, about the Sebettis?

B – Look at the posture of the statue of Moloch, isn’t this a déjà vu for us in this thread? Haven’t we seen an iconography before with the same hand posture before in this thread? I’ve talked about this from page 1 302 to page 1 306 when I was explaining the mutation of a specific iconography of Inanna/the Evil Lady and how the “lifting of the skirt” mutated. If you study the mutation of the iconography and then compare the posture of the mutated form of Inanna’s representation (lifting the hands up) with the posture of Moloch, they are the same. Both are also horned animals.

Sure, this is not enough, we need a more direct link, a key piece in the puzzle that will connect things together. I’m not going to look for it, I will be diverging from my goals, but those whom are interested, that’s one big digging tunnel to go into. I’m only saying there are good chances the origin of the Moloch iconography is from the iconography of Inanna = the Evil Lady. This might be another mutated form of her, and a confusion/misunderstanding happened, mistaking her Antelope form with that of a Bovine = Bull. She was always confused to Neith by the Evil clan after all.

The last sentence is a real gem: “There is currently a dispute as to whether these sacrifices were dedicated to Yahweh rather than a foreign deity.”

Do you even realize how big my smile is right now? Why am I smiling this big? Let me start by referring to page 922 and onward, please re-read what I said about changing the name of the City-State from Jerusalem to Tyre. Then please go to page 1 308 and re-read what was written about Yahweh there. Then connect all of this to Samael (starting page 1 338) and what I’ve been talking about when the Evil One is concerned, including his intimate relationship with the Evil Lady. Are you able to see the invisible threads connecting everything together? You can feel it’s there, right under the surface.

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65e6b5  No.14813249

>>14813241

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“Archaeologists have applied the term "tophet" to large cemeteries of children found at Carthaginian sites that have traditionally been believed to house the victims of child sacrifice, as described by Greco-Roman and biblical sources. This interpretation is controversial, with some scholars arguing that the tophets may have been childrens' cemeteries, rejecting the Greco-Roman sources as anti-Carthaginian propaganda. Others argue that not all burials in the tophet were sacrifices.

The tophet and its location, Gehenna, later became associated with divine punishment in Jewish Apocalypticism.”

>> There you go anons, this is the supposed Evidence 4 against the Phoenicians. The accusers use this one as being the strongest piece of evidence they’ve got against the Phoenicians. But they are actually incorrect accusations. Here, in this paragraph, (((they))) said it (((themselves))) that the interpretation is “contoversial”. But if you go back like a decade ago (or a bit longer than that), (((they))) would have told you the Tophet of Carthage is “irrefutable” proof of the Phoenicians practicing child sacrifice. Do you remember what I said about the ex-votos of Eshmun temple and how everyone in the media, academic world behaved? Well, multiply, amplify it a thousand times with the story of the Tophet of Carthage.

“Etymology

There is no consensus on the etymology of tophet, a word which only occurs eight times in the Masoretic text. The word may be derived from the Aramaic word taphyā meaning "hearth", "fireplace", or "roaster",a proposal first made by W. Robertson Smith in 1887. Some have suggested that the word has been altered via using the vocalization of bōsheth "shame." Others derive the word from the Hebrew root špt "to set (on fire)", cognate with Ugaritic ṯpd "to set." A new proposal has been made to interpret the term as "place of vow" by Robert M. Kerr.”

>> When it’s something connected to the Phoenicians, despite not being certain about it, they are condemned for it. When it’s something connected to the Jews, despite not being certain about it, they are willing to be moderate about it and be open minded on possible errors in interpretation. See how the system works? And, to make it worse, they managed to brainwash the public and control it using (((their))) religious book. Whatever (((they))) say or claim in (((their))) precious little book, the Sheep obeys, believes and follows blindly. It becomes the ultimate truth, despite it being based on lies and built on illusions.

“The Talmud (Eruvin 19a) and Saint Jerome derive the name from a Hebrew verb meaning "to seduce".The historically most significant etymology, followed by both Jewish and Christian exegetes until the modern period, was made by the eleventh-century CE rabbi Rashi, who derived the term from Hebrew toph "drum," claiming that the drums were beaten during the sacrifice to Moloch, deriving his ideas from Plutarch's description of Carthaginian sacrifice. This derivation is, however, morphologically impossible.

The term is spelled Topheth in most English Bibles, but it appears in versions such as the King James and New King James as "Tophet".”

>> And you believe Plutarch = the Roman CNN? He is very biased and paints everything that is none Roman in a bad way. And just look at the date = so, so late.

Funny thing is how “seduction” is connected to the cult of Moloch = sacrificing children – even if the interpretation is incorrect, it’s still eye catching how they connected seduction to child sacrifice. If this turns out to be true – I repeat – if this turns out to be true, then doesn’t this mean there is a link between a sexual cult and the sacrifice of children? Is this the thin thread connecting sacred prostitution with child sacrifice? But….yet again = look at the late date.

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f61b5b  No.14819106

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>>14813249

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“Biblical and Levantine references

In the Bible

The tophet is attested 8 times in the Hebrew Bible, mostly to designate a place of ritual fire or burning, but sometimes as a place name. The connection to ritual fire is made explicit in 2 Kings 23:10, Isaiah 30:33; and Jeremiah 7:31–32. In 2 Kings, King Josiah

defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech.

The text includes the destruction of the Tophet among Josiah's other removal of "deviant" religious practices from Israel as part of a far reaching religious reform. However, the continued condemnation of both the tophet and related practices by prophets such as Jeremiah and Ezekiel suggests that the practice may have continued after Josiah's reform, with a mention of the tophet by Isaiah suggesting it may have even continued after the Babylonian exile. Prior to Josiah's reform, the ritual of passing a child through the fire is mentioned, without specifying that it took place at the tophet, as having been performed by the Israelite kings Ahaz and Manasseh:

But [Ahaz] walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel. (2 Kings 16:3)

And [Manasseh] made his son to pass through the fire, and practised soothsaying, and used enchantments, and appointed them that divined by a ghost or a familiar spirit: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him. (2 Kings 21:6)”

>> What are the “deviant” religious practices mentioned here? = child sacrifice? Pedovores? Sacred prostitution? It’s so convenient not to mention what these “deviant” practices are and keep it vague like that. It does camouflage a lot of the atrocities about what was really going on. So in the Bible, they are hinting such “deviant” stuff were practiced by the Jews themselves, but….since they are the supposed to be the chosen people of God and the pampered, beloved masters of the Western Christians; the Jews get a pass, and the accusations are pinned on the Phoenicians, where it sticks because of the brainwashing, the media and the supposed “paid” experts.

What is a religious reform? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_(religion)

“Definition

Religious reforms are performed when a religious community reaches the conclusion that it deviated from its - assumed - true faith. Mostly religious reforms are started by parts of a religious community and meet resistance in other parts of the same religious community. Religious reforms usually lead to a reformulation of the religious teachings held for true, and to the condemnation resp. rejection of teachings held for wrong.”

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f61b5b  No.14819122

>>14819106

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“Mostly the deviation from the assumed true faith which gives reason for a religious reform crept in over a longer period of time, sometimes over centuries. A religious reform is always a reorientation at the historical beginnings of a religion (therefore: re-formare, reconstruct) under the perspective of the present time and with the knowledge of the present time. A typical example for deviations from an assumed true faith are social changes within society which lead a loss purpose for ethical prescriptions, so they have to be replaced by other ethical prescriptions in order to protect the underlying, unchanged value for the future. Another typical example is the factual falsification of traditional views, e.g. by better insights into historical events or into natural science, by which the traditional views are falsified.

[…]”

>> So in other words, for a religious reform to take place it means things have deviated from their original, true path. To put it in simple words = things went bad and the people lost their moral compass.

King Josiah had to step in because things were getting out of hand in Israel, not just with the sacrifice of children to Moloch but also because of the deviant religious practices taking place there. We’ve already seen the cult of Anat = Inanna/the Evil Lady has a center in Ascalon. We also know the Jews were a big community in Ephesus = a City-State which was famous as being the biggest center of the sacred prostitution and the cult of Atargatis/Artemis. We already know that the cult of the Evil Lady was practiced secretly in Jewish communities alongside the cult of Yahweh – worshiped most probably as a couple or a duo. We already know the Evil One = Samael, was the one whom appeared to both Moses and Abraham (demanding he sacrifices his son to him).

For king Josiah to step in, it means the practice of what anons know now as being Satanism + Pedovores was rampant in Israel and practiced by the Jews. And despite the intervention of king Josiah, the practice never stopped as it is attested by the condemnation of prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel. For king Josiah to make a religious reform it means this was practiced on a wide scale and some people were not agreeing with such horrible practices. And even after the exile occurred, there are hints the practice still continued within the Jewish community in exile = as in they took it along with them = the cult was carried along with the community as it changed geographic location.

And then, 2 Jewish kings practiced it themselves. This is a very important point because usually, traditionally, the religion of the ruler = king, is the national religion practiced by the majority of the populace. Remember Gudea? Remember Akhenaten? Each king brings his own favorite deity to the throne along with him; so it becomes the national religion during the reign of that king. This practice is not an exception but it’s widely spread and is common to many cultures and civilizations worldwide = each king making his favorite deity the national deity during his reign.

In other words, prior to king Josiah, Satanism = cult of Moloch was the national religion of the Jews, practiced by the majority of the population and even by the kings = royal family. You might think I’m overstretching it. Well…remember what I found out after long research? Remember how I found out that the City-States in both Phoenician/Canaan and in Mesopotamia have kicked out the entire Jewish community from their cities because their religion wasn’t accepted. This is how and why Abraham was kicked out from “Ur” (supposedly) his religion and his religious practices were not accepted by the other citizens of the City-State. Wherever there was a Jewish community in a City-State, you will notice there is fear among the other citizens and they are rejecting the Jews. Mostly because strange disappearances used to happen in the City-States. And no one was able to do anything about all of this. If one was caught in the crime, others would still continue to practice it. So even if the local authorities caught one or two of them, the rest of the community was still there, still practicing child sacrifice. So there was no solution but to kick out the Jews from the City-State to keep the local population safe.

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f61b5b  No.14819130

>>14819122

(Please read from the start)

If you dig, you will find plenty. I’ve barely scratched the surface of it all. None of this is mentioned by the preachers, this is nicely omitted. Don’t forget, it’s always the Phoenicians fault, never the Jews. And the Sheep happily follows this narrative. If the Jews were the chosen people of God and if they didn’t practice bad stuff, there wouldn’t be any need for a religious reform, nor did king Josiah had to “close” the Tophet, nor did it needed to be called by the Prophets. If this was good, all of these things wouldn’t have had happened.

“Both kings perform the sacrifices when faced with the prospect of wars. The sacrifices appear to have been to Yahweh, the god of Israel, and to have been performed in the tophet.”

>> And yet the brainwashed Western Sheep keeps on praising and praying Yahweh. Have you ever watched them online anons? I mean have you ever watched these so called new age Christian prophets whom praise the temple and praise Yahweh? Take a good look whom Yahweh is before mentioning him. The cult of Yahweh was practiced in Israel by the Jews and Yahweh is Satan = the Evil One. The precious little temple in Jerusalem is the temple of the Evil One.

“The tophet is condemned repeatedly by name in the Book of Jeremiah, and the term is especially associated with that book of the bible. An example is at Jeremiah 7:31–33:

And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into My mind. Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter; for they shall bury in Topheth, for lack of room.”

>> “Lack of room”. Chuckles! So it was practiced to THAT extent.

“Jeremiah associates the tophet with Baal; however, other sources all associate it with Moloch.”

>> Wanna bet one specific name was altered/modified again, switching from Moloch to Baal? It’s the same scenario like what we saw on page 922. Now ask yourselves questions: why switching from Judaic names to Phoenician names? Why paint the Phoenician in such a bad way instead of the Jews? Why accuse specifically the Phoenicians of the practices and crimes committed by the Jews? Why project (((their))) deeds/doings onto the Phoenicians?

We didn’t find anything in Phoenician Motherland soil pointing to child sacrifice taking place. Some will argue it wasn’t found either in Israel during the excavations. If you believe the reports the Jews have been putting out about their excavations then….face palm. What will you do IF (I’m using IF) it turns out the Israeli Tophet was found, the excavation happened in silent and secretly and all of this was kept hidden so the public image of the Jews won’t get damaged by it? I’m not saying it’s the case. I’m saying what IF this is a possibility. I’m saying with all that we have found out with Qteam in the Awakening…do you think there are loads of secret archaeological finds not reported to the public so the image of the Jews won’t get damaged? I know one thing for sure, with the Jews, anything is possible, even pulling such stunts on the public. I mean, they pulled the stunt of the planes on 9/11 on us. You think hiding a few excavations will be hard on them after the Israelis “almost” got away with what they did on 9/11?

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f61b5b  No.14819134

>>14819130

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The Jews and the Satanists are masters of trickery and illusions. But it’s the Phoenicians fault!!!!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49495167

Not a pip about this discovery. The spotlight and accusation is on the Phoenicians, the others get a pass.Remember the Chimu in the Andean Region? We saw them in this thread already, starting page 442. Remember the ceremonial knives they used (page 450 – picture 2). Human sacrifice mentioned in the same page and page 451. So these massive sacrificed children graves are Tophets but….why isn’t this mentioned in this Wikipedia page or any other page talking about children sacrifice. It’s easy to identify human sacrifice being practiced when you have this type of graves and you find sacrificial knives. Why are the focus and the accusation only pinned on the Phoenicians though? See what I mean?! Let’s be fair and treat everyone the same.

“P. Xella argues that no fewer than twenty-five passages in the Hebrew Bible show the Israelites and Canaanites sacrificing their children, including passages in Deuteronomy, (Dt. 12:13, 18:10), Leviticus (Lev. 18:21, 20:2-5), 2 Kings, 2 Chronicles, Isaiah, Ezra, Psalm 106, and the Book of Job. In 2 Kings 3:26–27, king Mesha of Moab burns his first-born son as an offering while besieged by the Israelites:

And when the king of Moab saw that the battle was too sore for him, he took with him seven hundred men that drew sword, to break through unto the king of Edom; but they could not. Then he took his eldest son that should have reigned in his stead, and offered him for a burnt-offering upon the wall. And there came great wrath upon Israel; and they departed from him, and returned to their own land.”

>> (((They))) couldn’t resist dragging in the Canaanites in this section. And what are the odds this king of Moab was a member of the Evil Clan – if this story turns out to be true and is not a hit piece on him to destroy his image? Xella works for (((them))).

“This act has been compared with Greco-Roman sources discussing the Phoenicians and Carthaginians engaging in the same or a similar practice in times of danger (see below). It appears to have been performed for the Moabite god Kemosh.”

>> There you go anons. (((They))) simply cannot resist throwing this on the Phoenicians and now it’s with the Carthaginians. I thought we were reading about the practice of child sacrifice to Moloch in Ancient Israel by the Jews, so now it’s thrown in the lap of the Phoenicians. And don’t worry, I will be talking about the Greco-Roman sources when I reach it further below.

“Extra-Biblical attestations

There is no archaeological evidence for the Tophet at Jerusalem, so that we are reliant on the biblical descriptions to understand it. Archaeology has not yet been securely identified any Tophets in the Levant, but there is other evidence for child sacrifice there. Ancient Egyptian inscriptions from the second millennium BCE attest the practice in the Levant. A late 8th-century BCE Phoenician inscription from İnçirli in Turkey may indicate that first born sons were sacrificed there along with sheep and horses. The sacrifice of first-born sons in times of crisis appears to be dealt with at length in the inscription, although the precise context is unclear.”

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f61b5b  No.14819154

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>>14819134

(Please read from the start)

>> First sentence is correct, true. “Officially”, there isn’t evidence found showing this Tophet existed in Jerusalem. If you are wondering if I had the opportunity to see the “records”; the answer is a no. Access was not allowed, so we couldn’t verify what’s in those excavations like what we did in other places.

The second sentence is half correct = we didn’t find anything resembling Tophets in the Levant. The Levant also includes Phoenicia anons. This refers to evidence 3 I talked about earlier = no tangible evidence was found of human sacrifice being practiced in the area. And yet…the accusations kept on raining down solely on the Phoenicians/Canaanites. But (((they))) tell us there is “other” evidence for child sacrifice taking place there, in the Levant….without stating what that evidence is.

The third sentence tells us there are MANY inscriptions from Ancient Egypt, dating from the second millennium B.C. which attests child sacrifice takes place in the Levant. But, what specific inscriptions they are talking about? This is not mentioned. Nor is it mentioned where precisely in the Levan this practice is taking place nor by whom specifically. And we also don’t know when exactly these inscriptions were made, as in we don’t know under which Pharaoh’s rule they were made. Saying it’s the second millennium is extremely wide and vague. If such inscription really did exist, it would have put an end to all this issue in one swift swoop; and all of these arguments and disputes about this issue would have ended.

The 4th sentence also doesn’t name which inscription precisely it is they are talking about so we can verify if the claims are true or not. Good thing they mentioned the region: Inçirli and we have a date. So let’s check it out: https://www.hittitemonuments.com/incirli/

“İncirli Stele

The stele was found in 1993 by Elizabeth Carter in a field in the village of Incirli in Pazarcık, Kahramanmaraş during a field survey of an archaeology team of UCLA. Analysis of the basalt stele revealed that it was originally inscribed in three languages, namely Hieroglyphic Luwian, Assyrian, and Phoenician, and much later in the Byzantine times it was reused as a border marker by incising an inscription in Greek. Original inscriptions have been badly eroded. Luwian inscription is located on the front face to the right of the relief figure and the two-line Assyrian inscription in cuneiform script is written below the Luwian and on the right side of the stele. However, both of these remain in illegible condition. Below those, a Phoenician inscription was written on all four sides of the stele which has been read with the aid of advanced visual techniques.”

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f61b5b  No.14819157

>>14819154

(Please read from the start)

“The Phoenician inscription is for the most part narrated in the first person by king Warika who is also known from the Çineköy inscription. It was erected to mark the land that was gifted to Warika by the Assyrian king Tiglath-Pileser III. The land was a border territory between the land of Warika and mountains of Gurgum. The "Danunean king" and "King of Que" mentioned in the text appearantly also refer to Warika and his kingdom (also known as Hiyawa) centered on the city of Adana. The "entire land of Hatti" term is used as a reference to the region in general. From the continuing narrative it is understood that the border territory was given to Warika as a result of his alliance with the Assyrians during the rebellion of Matiel, the king of Arpad. The stele dates to the second half of the 8th century BCE and currently on display in the Gaziantep Archaeology Museum.”

And here is almost the same information: https://books.google.com.lb/books?id=W1ssEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=phoenician+inscription+in+incirli+8th+century&source=bl&ots=kdw0E-Sbxo&sig=ACfU3U1wjK5qwbiR_TSBjtjMLN9Sa_1FGA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6mfPOy5XzAhVIAmMBHa64DWAQ6AF6BAgCEAE#v=onepage&q=phoenician%20inscription%20in%20incirli%208th%20century&f=false

I’ve attached a picture for anons of the inscription – previous page. As you can see, it’s badly damaged and it’s hard to read. So far, we already know it’s hard to decipher Phoenician and on top of it, it’s hard to see the letters written in this inscription. Those are 2 big bumps to overcome in order to read correctly this inscription. So here is an attempt at deciphering this specific inscription: https://sethlsanders.wordpress.com/2016/07/09/the-incirli-human-sacrifice-trilingual-not-a-trilingual-about-human-sacrifice/

“The Incirli “Human Sacrifice” Trilingual: Not a Trilingual about Human Sacrifice

First part: Front of the inscription*

Since the text of this incredibly interesting but horribly worn stela is not currently available in any digital form, including books or online journal articles, here is the text and translation, based on Steven Kaufman and Bruce Zuckerman’s careful work (S.A. Kaufman 2007. The Phoenician Inscription of the Incirli Trilingual: A Tentative Reconstruction and Translation, Maarav 14.2, 7–26). This is a very simplified version of Kaufmann’s edition, which should be consulted because it indicates many places where the characters are incompletely preserved.

I present here the front, from which the most text is preserved, along with a translation after his. I present the more obscure and uncertain passages in italics. Later I will add the other three sides and a more original translation.”

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f61b5b  No.14819161

>>14819157

(Please read from the start)

1. hgbl z mtn/t tkltʾplsr pʾl mlk ʾšr

This frontier is a gift of Tiglath-Pileser—Puʾul, king of Assyria,

2. lmlk wlšph mlk dnnym | hgbl gbl

to the king and the descendants of the king of the Danunians. This frontier has been the border

3. pht (/ʾrs) ʿbr nhr wgbl kmh lmym swsdd šr

of the province (or land) of Across-the-River and Kummuh from the reign of Shamshi-Adad, ruler

4. ʾšr wʿd kl ym tkltʾplsr pʾl ml[k]

of Assur, through the reign of Tiglath-Pileser—Puʾul,

5. ʾšr rb | hgbl [z] gbl hr [g]rgm wphty

Great Kin[g] of Assyria. [This] frontier is the border between the mountains of [Gu]rgum and my province,

6. zʾ(/hʾ) hdšt ʿd bʾ pht ʾšr lhgbl z

this new one up to where the Assyrian province reaches it, through this region

7. lmʿbr lbt trtn kbʾ nhr sns ʿd

from across the Turtanu’s dynastic region along the River Sinis, up to

8. [h]r [ʾ]rrṭ ʾnk wryks mlk z bt mp[š]

the [moun]tains of [U]rartu. I am Warikis, king of the House of Mopsos

9. ʿbd m[l]k [tk]ltʾplsr mlk ʾšr mlk qw

servant of king T[ig]lathpileser, king of Assyria, king of Que

10. mlk bt mpš wkl [ ]t ḥt wʿd lbnn

king of the house of Mopsos and all [ ] Hittite country up to the Lebanon

11. w kn mrd bkl mt ḥ[t] wzbḥ mlk ʾrpd

There was a rebellion throughout the Hittitle country and the king of Arpad

12. lyʿn hdd mlk wgzr mkpr k ʾrpd

sacrificed for the benefit of Hadad-Melek (or: as a mulk-offering for Hadad) and redeemed (the human sacrifice) with butchered animal parts because Arpad

13. pḥd mlk ʾm/šr [xx] wʿṣ ḥkm l/wʾmr

feared (a living molkomor/the king of Assyria. He arose, a wise man, and said)

14. km ḥq mlk ʾrpd wḥlb ʾl tgzr/l ʾd[m]

“According to the law of the King of Arpad and Aleppo, do not sacrifice a human being

15. […]ʾl tpḥd kʾm kpr ʾš pḥtk ʾl yḥr[b/m]

[…] fear not, rather offer a substitute sacrifice so he will not destroy your province.”

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f61b5b  No.14819180

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>>14819161

(Please read from the start)

>> The lines 11 to 15 are the ones where human sacrifice is mentioned. And I agree with what is said in the title: this is NOT sacrificing humans. Let me explain this:

Line 11 : “There was a rebellion throughout the Hittitle country and the king of Arpad.”

>> Arpad is the current day Arwad in Syria. It was an important Phoenician City-State at some point in time, then its power and influence grew weaker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arwad

“[…]

Names

The original Phoenician city was named Arwad ʾrwd and was located on an island named (ʾynk). It is mentioned in the Annals of Thutmose III at the Karnak Temple as Irtu. It eventually became known as Arvad, Arpad, and Arphad. These were hellenized as Árados (Greek: Ἄραδος), which was Latinized as Aradus. In Arabic, it became Arwad ().

[…]”

>> I’ve already mentioned Arwad as being a Phoenician megalithic site on page 1435. In other words anons, the King of Arpad mentioned in Inçirli inscription is a Phoenician king.

Line 12: “sacrificed for the benefit of Hadad-Melek (or: as a mulk-offering for Hadad) and redeemed (the human sacrifice) with butchered animal parts because Arpad.”

>> The king of Arpad substituted human sacrifice with the sacrifice of animals (continued in line 13)

Line 13: “feared (a living molkomor/the king of Assyria. He arose, a wise man, and said.”

>> (continuation of Line 12) because he feared the king of Assyria. In other words, the King of Arpad performed an animal sacrifice because he feared the king of Assyria.

Line 14: “According to the law of the King of Arpad and Aleppo, do not sacrifice a human being”.

>> Do I really need to explain this anons? = here it’s very clear = the King of Arpad and Aleppo (which means Aleppo was a Phoenician City-State, at least the Phoenician king ruled over both City-States) has a law in his City-States which forbids human sacrifice. And because he doesn’t perform human sacrifice and he doesn’t want to anger the Assyrian king, because he feared him, he sacrificed instead animals, not humans as the Assyrian king wanted.

Line 15: “[…] fear not, rather offer a substitute sacrifice so he will not destroy your province.”

>> So if you substitute animal sacrifice to human sacrifice like what the king of Arpad did, the Assyrian king won’t destroy your province. The king of Assyria wanted human sacrifice but the king of Arpad didn’t want to sacrifice humans, so he substituted the human by an animal for the sacrifice.

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f61b5b  No.14819201

>>14819180

(Please read from the start)

If the deciphering of this inscription is true, then this shows that the Phoenicians DO NOT PRACTICE HUMAN SACRIFICE but actually forbade it. This reminds me greatly of what we read about the Viracocha/Staff-god = the Sebetti king whom landed in the Andean Region and traveled all the way to Mesoamerica = the Staff-god and his followers were against human sacrifice.

If you don’t believe me, here is the transliteration and the translation of the inscription. You can read it, and you can interpret this any way you understand it to be. But for me, this doesn’t prove the Phoenician practiced human sacrifice but that they are against it since a Phoenician King had a law in TWO of his City-States forbidding the practice of human sacrifice and in the same time, he refused to perform himself a human sacrifice, substituting humans with animals…he had to perform the sacrifice in order to escape the anger of the Assyrian king, but he refused to sacrifice humans, instead he used animals.

There was actually a LAW in Phoenicia forbidding human sacrifice. This means some have tried to perform it there and the Phoenician king was against it and made it illegal to perform human sacrifice. Could it the “travelers”, like the wandering priests of Inanna whom brought with them such practices and to stop it from taking root in his City-State, the Phoenician king made it illegal. So that each traveler with such nasty practices would be considered illegal if he did such a thing on Phoenician City-State? I say yes.

Maybe I’m rushing things a bit for anons but you will understand me better as I move on.

So you see anons, when I go looking for the inscription, what did I find out? In the Wikipedia paragraph it is said that in this inscription it is said the first born son is sacrificed and he is substituted by sheep and horses. Where is it? Where is this written in the inscription? Where in the inscription is it mentioned the Phoenician king was sacrificing his first born son? Where did it mention he substituted him with a sheep and horses?

This means that the last sentence is nothing but pure lies. At best, it’s terribly, terribly misleading. Take it this way: if this was truly a Phoenician inscription proving the Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice, the discovery of this stele would have been run 24/7 on every news outlet in the world, in many forms, in many languages and on many platforms. And (((they))) would have aired this for months, making a big tantrum out of it = finally we have tangible proof the Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice. The MSM would have run this over and over till it squeezed all the juice out of it over and over again and again. (((They))) would have aired it 24/7 in Times Square and even wrote it in history books, teaching about it….not to mention all the priests and pastors would have talked about this over and over again in their sermons at church.

But….I bet most of the anons reading this now haven’t even heard of this inscription before reading about it in this thread. Main Stream History never mentioned it as far as I know to the general public. And I surely didn’t notice anything about it coming from the Alternative History.

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5be4a9  No.14825875

>>14819201

(Please read from the start)

Amazing isn’t it anons! There is evidence out there, archaeological evidence that MIGHT prove the innocence of the Phoenicians and it’s not known to the general public. Not a single mention about it by the MSM or the academic world or any other means to reach the general public. It’s truly fascinating how evidence which MIGHT exonerate the Phoenicians is kept in the dark.

“Greco-Roman sources also reference child sacrifice, such as an attempt at Tyre to revive a custom of sacrificing a boy during Alexander the Great's Siege of Tyre in 332 BCE, recorded by first century CE Roman historian Quintus Curtius Rufus.The church historian Eusebius (3rd century CE) quotes from Philo of Byblos's Phoenician history that:

It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites. Kronos then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only begotten son, whom they on this account called ledud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians; and when very great dangers from war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.

(Euseubius of Caesarea, Praeparatio Evangelica 1.10.44 = 4.16.11)”

>> I’m going to explain the ancient sources later on, after I finish with the artifacts = evidence. I’m going to leave for later, so I won’t write this twice, so be please be patient about this for now.

“Theories

Although a "minority of scholars" has argued that the tophet ritual described in the Bible was a harmless activity that did not involve sacrificing any children, the majority of scholars agree that the Bible depicts human sacrifice as occurring at the tophet. Modern scholarship has described sacrifice at the Tophet as a mulk or mlk sacrifice. The term appears to derive from a verb meaning "presentation as an offering" from the root ylk "to offer, present" and found in Phoenician and Carthaginian inscriptions in the phrases mlk ʾdm "sacrifice a human," mlk bʿl "to sacrifice a citizen", and mlk bšr "sacrifice in place of flesh." Lawrence Stager and Samuel Wolff argue that the term "refers to a live sacrifice of a child or animal.”

>> I was told MLK has another meaning, not the meaning given to us here. It all depends on whom is translating, isn’t it? And on top of it, it depends whom is “interpreting” the translation. I don’t think the meaning of MLK provided here is correct. From my notes MLK (it’s not Martin Luther King either by the way) in Phoenician means “king”. The difference in the meaning is HUGE isn’t it anons?

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5be4a9  No.14825891

>>14825875

(Please read from the start)

“The god to whom these sacrifices was directed is disputed in modern scholarship, with a dispute arising over whether the sacrifices were part of the cult of Yahweh. Traditionally, the god to whom the sacrifices were offered has been said to be Molech, supposedly an underworld god whose name means king. The Bible connects the Tophet with Moloch in two later texts, 2 Kings 23:10 and Jeremiah 32:25. Lindsay Cooper writes in support of this connection that "The location of the Jerusalem tofet outside the city's eastern wall, at the traditional entrance to the netherworld, explicitly connects child sacrifice with the cult of death." However, while scholars recognize the existence of an underworld deity called "M-l-k" with various vocalizations (e.g. Molech, Milcom) as well as an Akkadian term maliku for the shades of the dead, there is no evidence to connect these deities or shades to human sacrifice. Later Phoenician and Punic sacrifices of children called mlk in inscriptions or described by Greco-Roman sources are not associated with these gods. On the basis of the word mlk meaning "to sacrifice" "an increasing number of scholars now take the biblical traditions to attest not to the offering of children in fiery sacrifices to the deity “Molek”, but rather to the sacrifice of children as “mlk” offerings to another deity." On the basis of the stories of Abraham and Jephthah offering their sons to Yahweh, as well as Micah 6:6-7 and other passages, Francesca Stavrakopoulou argues that the offerings were in fact for Yahweh rather than for a foreign deity.”

>> Loads of spaghetti in this paragraph and loads of lying. Let me simplify things for you:

By now you know the Evil One = Yahweh was a Sebetti king, right? And you know he is the one whom started this entire human sacrifice disgusting thing, right? So he was called MLK in Phoenicians which meant king. And you know there are other Sebetti kings, which were also called MLK = king. It all depends on the context you are reading to know which type = good or evil, king we are talking about in the text.

Moloch might be a mutation brought by the migrations to the word king = MLK. But it’s not how the word king is pronounced in Phoenician; it’s pronounced Malek which means king. So Moloch MIGHT be = not sure, a mutated form of Malek. It’s uncertain and it needs further studying. I’m no linguist.

So if MLK was used by the Evil Clan to point to their Sebetti king = the Evil One, then yes, it could be the origin of Moloch. If MLK was used to point to another Sebetti ruler then it means they are talking about then it doesn’t mean it’s the Evil Moloch = the Evil One, but it means it’s referring to a king, another king = maybe another Sebetti king or a mortal human king. It all depends on the context of the inscription; like if it’s said in it that a MLK built a new temple of Eshmun using Cedar wood (fictive example from my part) = here it doesn’t mean it’s Moloch whom built that temple, but it means a human king of a City-State built a temple for Eshmun using Cedar wood. See what I mean? = it all depends on the context of the inscription to understand the meaning. There is no standard usage of one word in Phoenician, just like it’s the case with English. Like he can be king of a country, but you can also be a king of jokes, a king of food or a king of painting….see what I mean here? It’s the context of the text that plays a role in fully understanding it.

So when you read in a text that the Jews sacrificed in the Tophet a child to MLK, it means they sacrificed it to their king = the king of their clan = the Evil One. And if you read the word MLK in the Pheonician text, check the context if it’s referring to a deity, a human king or if it has any other meaning. You should verify this as well with the Jews….but….they only use it to refer most of the time to their deity = Yahweh = the Evil One.

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f81c09  No.14832866

>>14825891

(Please read from the start)

“Association with punishment

The topheth's description as a place of punishment derives in part by the use of the word in Isaiah 30:33, in which Yahweh ignites a large tophet to punish the Assyrians:

For a hearth [tophet] is ordered of old; yea, for the king it is prepared, deep and large; the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.

The location of the tophet, the valley of Gehenna, subsequently became a place of punishment in the eschatology of Jewish Apocalypticism, something found in the 3rd- or 4th-century BCE Book of Enoch (1 Enoch 26:4; 27:2–3). The Talmud, discussing the passage in Isaiah, states that whoever commits evil will fall there (Eruvin 19a),”

>> We’ve already seen how the Evil Couple inflict Divine Punishment. No comment apart this.

“Carthage and the western Mediterranean

Various Greek and Roman sources describe the Carthaginian as engaging in the practice of sacrificing children by burning as part of their religion. These descriptions were compared to those found in the Hebrew Bible. The ancient descriptions were seemingly confirmed by the discovering of the so-called "Tophet of Salambô" in Carthage in 1921, which contained the urns of cremated children. However, modern historians and archaeologists debate the reality and extent of this practice. Some scholars propose that all remains at the Tophet were sacrificed, whereas others propose that only some were.”

>> As I’ve said before, we are going to talk about the Sources later, for now we are going to focus on the Tophet of Carthage. Just take note of the information.

“Archaeological evidence

In Phoenician sites throughout the Western Mediterranean (except for Spain and Ibiza), archaeology has revealed fields full of buried urns containing the burnt remains of human infants and lambs, covered by carved stone monuments. These fields are conventionally referred to as "tophets" by archaeologists, after the location in the Bible. When Carthaginian inscriptions refer to these locations, they use the terms bt (house, temple or sanctuary) or qdš (shrine), not "tophet".Archaeology reveals two "generations" of Punic tophets: those founded by Phoenician colonists between 800 and 400 BCE; and those founded under Carthaginian influence (direct or indirect) in North Africa from the 4th century BCE onward.”

>> Amazing! I didn’t know they already managed to translate the Carthaginian inscriptions and managed to know what these terms mean when they refer to the Tophet. Ah! So they are telling us we have 2 phases in the Tophet = one from the Phoenician colonists and one from the influence of Carthage. I have a question: how long did they remain Phoenician solely in Carthage before the Berber and others migrated in?

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f81c09  No.14832871

>>14832866

(Please read from the start)

“No Carthaginian literary texts survive that would explain or describe what rituals were performed at the tophet. Archaeological evidence shows that the remains could consist of human infants or lambs, often mixed with small portions of other animals, including cows, pigs, fish, birds, and deer. The proportion of lamb to human remains differs by site. At Carthage, 31% of the urns contained lambs; at Tharros it was 47%.Analysis of the bone fragments provides some information about the remains. In a sample of seventy infants from the tophet at Carthage, 37% were identified as male and 54% as female. The age of the children and whether they had died before they were interred is controversial (see below). The lambs are usually between one and three months old; this might indicate that offerings were made at a specific time following the lambing (February/March and October/November). The bone fragments were subjected to uneven temperatures, indicating that they were burnt on an open-air pyre over the course of several hours. The remains were then collected and placed in an urn, sometimes mixing in bones from other infants or lambs - suggesting that multiple infants/lambs were burnt on the same pyre. Sometimes jewellery or amulets were added to the urn. The urn was placed in the ground, in holes cut into the bedrock or within boxes made from stone slabs. In some cases a stone monument was set up above the urn. This could take the form of a stele, cippus, or throne, often with figural decoration and an inscription. In a few occasions, a chapel was built as well. Steles are oriented toward the east.”

>> Please read and re-read this paragraph over and over again…don’t you find something odd in the behavior of the Carthaginians? A lot of care has been put, including a lot of money, to burry to those supposedly sacrificed children. Anons, I will explain this later on when we take a closer look at Carthage, so now let’s continue with the Tophet page.

“The figural decoration on the stone monuments takes different forms in different regions. In Carthage, geometric patterns were preferred. In Sardinia, human figures are more common. Inscriptions are most common in the Tophet of Salammbó at Carthage, where there are thousands of examples. There are some from other tophets as well. Matthew McCarty cites CIS I.2.511 as a typical inscription:

To Lady Tanit, face of Baal, and to Lord Baal Hammon: [that] which Arisham son of Bodashtart, son of Bodeshmun vowed (ndr); because he (the god) heard his (Arisham's) voice, he blessed him.”

>> Anons, this cannot be considered as proof of a sacrificial dedication to the deity. This is like the ex-votos = fulfilling a vow and this inscription is proving the fulfillment of the vow. I don’t find anything wrong with that anons. I’ve seen ex-votos all the way up to my eye balls in many places from many civilizations. There is nothing harmful about them. When you make a request or a vow to a deity and it is fulfilled, then you respect that vow. And there is nothing in this type of inscription which indicates that the “vows” means/is to sacrifice their own child. All it means is that a vow is made and there is a child dead buried under the inscription. Does this mean the vow is about sacrificing one’s child? Nothing is pointing to it.

Let me ask those of you whom are parents. If God forbids you lost a child of yours, that is so young, what would you do? Won’t you cry? Won’t you be broken? Won’t you seek refuge in God? Won’t you do some type of vow or a pilgrimage for the soul of your lost child? Won’t you do your best to give him a good and nice resting place? Won’t you do your best to bury the child in a good way? Won’t you vow to keep his/her memory alive?

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f81c09  No.14832873

>>14832871

(Please read from the start)

“Thus, these texts present the monument as a votive offering to the gods, in thanks for favor received from them. Sometimes the final clause instead reads "may he (the god) hear his voice," (i.e. in expectation of a future favor). The individual making the offering is almost always a single individual, nearly always male. The dead child is never mentioned. Tanit appears only in examples from Carthage. Other inscriptions refer to the ritual as mlk or molk. The meaning of this term is uncertain, but it appears to be the same word as the Biblical term "Molech" discussed above. The inscriptions distinguish between mlk b'l / mlk ʿdm (molk of a citizen/person) and mlk ʿmr (molk of a lamb).”

>> I’ve already explained to anons about these being votive steles just above. And as I pointed out, the child is never mentioned. So we cannot connect these to child sacrifice. All we have are 2 elements that we cannot connect them together = a dead child and a votive stele for a vow. There is a missing link between them which we haven’t found, so we cannot put anything in there. There are thousands of reasons why. We cannot pick one ourselves. We must find tangible archaeological evidence what it could be.

It’s true Tanit only shows up in Carthage, so we cannot make a generalized idea saying all the children were sacrificed to the Evil Lady in all the Tophet around the Med Sea. I’ve also already explained MLK. As for individual males making the offerings; I think this is due to the rights of men back in the past: head of the family had rights over the rest of the members and is considered as the patriarch, so he controlled everything, including the money and the religious aspect of his households. In Ancient Greece for example, women didn’t have the right to vote in their Democracy because they were not considered citizens. They also couldn’t own land, nor have an inheritance. Do you get what I’m trying to tell you here? I think this is why the majority of the individuals making the offerings were males = it’s about the social rights and statuses.

“Over a hundred tophets have been identified. The earliest examples were established at Carthage, Malta, Motya in western Sicily, and Tharros in southern Sardinia, when the Phoenicians first settled in these areas in the ninth century BCE. The largest known tophet, the Tophet of Salammbô at Carthage, seems to have been established at this time and continued in use for at least a few decades after the city's destruction in 146 BCE. The stone markers first appeared at Salammbô around 650 BCE and spread to Motya and Tharros around 600 BCE. Between the fifth and third centuries BCE, tophets became more common in southern Sardinia and the Carthaginian hinterland, as Phoenician settlement expanded. In Sicily and Sardinia, tophets slowly went out of use in the third and second centuries BCE, following the establishment of Roman control in the First Punic War. In the same period in North Africa, a large number of new tophets were established particularly in inland Tunisia. Many of these tophets remained in use after the fall of Carthage in 146 BCE. In the late first and second centuries CE, migration resulting from military deployment patterns led to the establishment of new tophets in Tunisia and eastern Algeria. In the Roman period, inscriptions name the god to which the monuments were dedicated as Saturn. In addition to infants, some of these tophets contain offerings only of goats, sheep, birds, or plants; many of the worshipers have Libyan rather than Punic names. Their use appears to have declined in the second and third centuries CE.”

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f81c09  No.14833900

The shot heard around the world.

Bring in the pop corn.

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38163b  No.14840527

>>14832873

(Please read from the start)

>> The first half of this paragraph is rather correct. But then, (((they))) had to insert (((their))) S. in it by insinuating that Sardinia and Sicily stopped using Tophet under Roman rule. By playing this trick (((they))) make it sound like the Tophet was only used by the Phoenicians and they were bad – when the Romans came along, the good, nice Romans stopped the use of the Tophet. This is pure B.S. anons. This is made on purpose to make it sound like the Phoenicians were the only one whom used the Tophet while I’ve already provided 3 examples it was used by other cultures/civilizations = The Jews, the Greeks and the Chimu culture in the Andes. We can maybe argue about these civilizations/cultures really practicing or not human sacrifice….but then, we outta do the same with the Phoenicians = give everyone the same treatment, treat everyone equally.

During the Roman times the inscriptions started to be dedicated to Saturn which means the earlier insinuation is false at best, or simply put = a lie. Even under the Romans the use of Tophet continued. It never stopped. So it’s not exclusively Phoenicians as they are “implying”.

Now, we’ve got a cocktail of deities on our hands now: from Yahweh, to Moloch to Saturn, passing through Tanit….or maybe….they are all referring to the same deity for the first 3 mentioned….what do you say are the odds of that? And if Tanit is a mutated version of the Evil Lady/Inanna doesn’t that make her associated with the various aspects of the Evil One we just mentioned? It reminds me of what we found at the Nubian border about the cult of Anat being practiced alongside the cult of Yahweh by the Jews whom lived there.

“Greco-Roman sources

Greco-Roman sources frequently criticize the Carthaginians for engaging in child sacrifice. The earliest references to the practice are bare references in Sophocles Andromeda fragment 122 in the fifth century BCE and the Pseudo-Platonic dialogue, Minos, probably of the fourth century BCE. The late fourth century BCE philosopher Theophrastus claimed that the Syracusan tyrant Gelon had demanded that the Carthaginians abandon the practice after he defeated them in the Battle of Himera (480 BC).

The first detailed account comes from Cleitarchus, an early third-century BCE historian of Alexander the Great, who is quoted by a scholiast as saying:

Phoenicians, and above all Carthaginians, worship Kronos; if they wish to achieve something big, they devote a child of theirs, and in the case of success, sacrifice it to the god. There is a bronze statue of Kronos among them, which stands upright with open arms and palms of its hands facing upwards above a bronze brazier on which the child is burnt. When the flames reach the body, the victim’s limbs stiffen and the tense mouth almost seems like it is laughing until, with a final spasm, the child falls in the brazier.

Cleitarchus FGrH no. 137, F 9”

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38163b  No.14840537

File: 00aeec6ef192045⋯.jpg (35.1 KB, 768x439, 768:439, Spielberg_and_adopted_daug….jpg)

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>>14840527

(Pleae read from the start)

“The first century BCE Greek historian Diodorus Siculus writes that, when the Carthaginians were besieged by Agathocles of Syracuse in 310 BCE, the Carthaginians responded by sacrificing large numbers of children according to an old custom they had abandoned:

They also alleged that Kronos had turned against them inasmuch as in former times they had been accustomed to sacrifice to this god the noblest of their sons, but more recently, secretly buying and nurturing children, they had sent these to the sacrifice; and when an investigation was made, some of those who had been sacrificed were discovered to have been substituted by stealth. . .. In their zeal to make amends for the omission, they selected two hundred of the noblest children and sacrificed them publicly; and others who were under suspicion sacrificed themselves voluntarily, in number not less than three hundred. There was in the city a bronze image of Kronos, extending its hands, palms up and sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.”

>> Please compare this paragraph just above with the first = big paragraph on page 1 496. There, it’s obvious the children were cremated ONE at a time and each was in the fire for several hours. So now compare with what is said in this paragraph just above. Then ask yourselves how could the Carthaginians have sacrificed 200 or 300 of their children in one go? The archaeological evidence contradicts these claims and expose the lie, the exaggeration of the numbers, the bias and the deceit. If the children were sacrificed in such great numbers as mentioned we would have found in the burial urns a cocktail of bones from different cremated children. But this is not what we found, isn’t it? I will explain what all of this means further down.

“Elsewhere in his work (Library 14.4), Diodorus claims that wealthy Carthaginians would purchase infant slaves to offer in lieu of their own children.”

>> Doesn’t this differ from earlier accounts that the Phoenicians/Carthaginians sacrificed solely their own children with big cruelty? But here, it sounds like they are trying to avoid sacrificing their own children and trying to find substitute children.

I’m wondering if Diodorus is not projecting on the Phoenicians and Carthaginians what the Bloodlines do? Take a look at the pictures and the articles in the links as examples of what I’m referring to please.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6671727/mikaela-spielberg-adult-entertainment/

https://radaronline.com/videos/charlize-theron-talks-raising-transgender-daughter-jackson/

I’ve read before in this board and online social media how some anons think the Bloodlines are the descendants of the Phoenicians. Should I remind anons that the Evil Lady attacked the Phoenician City-States and Neith came to the repeal her attack? If the Phoenicians were the clan = the people of the Evil Couple why would the Evil Lady attack personally her own people? I’m going to talk more about this later on in this thread = whom I think the Phoenicians MIGHT be.

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38163b  No.14840555

>>14840537

(Please read from the start)

“The writer Plutarch (c. 46–120 CE) also mentions the practice:

… with full knowledge and understanding they themselves offered up their own children, and those who had no children would buy little ones from poor people and cut their throats as if they were so many lambs or young birds; meanwhile the mother stood by without a tear or moan; but should she utter a single moan or let fall a single tear, she had to forfeit the money, and her child was sacrificed nevertheless; and the whole area before the statue was filled with a loud noise of flutes and drums so that the cries of wailing should not reach the ears of the people."

>> The Roman C.N.N. is telling us that the throat of the children was cut before they were thrown into the fire. How did he know that? Did he witness it? Was he there to be able to give us such accurate details? And….what does this description of his reminds you of dear reader? = it’s actually describing the ritual done by the Bloodlines.

We know that they drain the blood from the child after they torture it and they drink the blood and consume the flesh because of the Adrenochrome. Then the remains are burned or disposed of. Wasn’t this what the Bloodlines did at Epstein Island, under the temple? In the same time, this is also a very, very different account on the method of sacrifice describes by the Jews about the Phoenicians. In fact, what Plutarch is talking about is closer to what nowadays Bloodline do than what the Phoenicians were said to do = throw the child in the fire while it’s still alive. In other words we have 2 different accounts where each is stating a different method used to sacrifice children. Which one is correct? Think about all of this for now, try to connect the dots yourselves, dig. I’ve said a lot of things, so check them out.

“Several Christian authors allude to the practice in the early centuries CE. The Christian apologist Tertullian, about 200 CE, states that although the priests who sacrificed children had been crucified by a Roman procurator, "that holy crime persists in secret". Another Christian writer, Minucius Felix, claims that Punic women aborted their children as a form of sacrifice.”

>> At first, they do not name whom these “several Christian authors” are whom have “alluded” to the practice of human sacrifice….nor do they tell us whom was practicing such horrors. This indicates that the practice never stopped but it went underground. And the nowadays Bloodlines along with the Kabballah are here to prove it = the practice never stopped and it went on, in hiding, for centuries.

Tertullian and Minucius Felix suffer from the same problem = there is at least a 150 years gap and we don’t know where they got such information from. And I suggest anons do some reading about them and their background ^_~ I personally hate to rely on sources written by such people.

“Controversy

The degree and existence of Carthaginian child sacrifice is controversial. Some archaeologists and historians argue that the literary and archaeological evidence indicates that all remains in the tophets were sacrificed. Sabatino Moscati and other scholars have argued that the tophets were cemeteries for premature or short-lived infants who died naturally and then were ritually offered. Others argue that only some infants were sacrificed.”

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811bb6  No.14847344

File: 5f18ad12010b995⋯.jpg (64.6 KB, 370x501, 370:501, Sabatino_Moscati.jpg)

>>14840555

(Pleae read from the start)

>> So here we have 3 different interpretation about the Tophet presented to us:

1 – The Tophet is a cemetery where the sacrificed children are buried.

2 – The Tophet is a special type of cemetery where premature and short lived infants who died NATURALLY, then they were ritually offered.

3 – Not all but SOME of the children buried in the Tophet were sacrificial victims.

Yes, I have my own opinion on this and I was on the side of Moscati for a long time. That is until I come to this board and because of the shoes of Flotus and the help of Potus I understood a very important point which cleared the issue for me. Of course I will be explaining everything to anons and what I think about as I did for the other evidences I presented to you so far. Just let me present to you the context first so you would understand when I start to rant ^_^ My view on this issue was cleared up with the discovery.

After my little “footy” discovery (trying to joke there) I also understood that Moscati was half way there, half right. But he, just like me, had a missing piece. That’s why he is half right. He is correct when he says this is a cemetery for premature and short-lived infants who died naturally. But he is mistaking by saying they were ritually offered later on.

“The account given by the Greco-Roman authors is questionable. They were not eye-witnesses, contradict each other on how the children were killed, and describe children older than infants being killed as opposed to the infants found in the tophets. The archaeological evidence is not consistent with the mechanical statue of Cronus mentioned by Cleitarchus and Diodorus. There are no references to child sacrifice in Greco-Roman accounts of the Punic Wars, which are better documented than the earlier periods in which mass child sacrifice is claimed. Many, but not all, Greco-Roman authors were hostile to the Carthaginians because they had been enemies in the Sicilian and Punic Wars and this may have influenced their presentation of the practice. Matthew McCarty argues that, even if the Greco-Roman testimonies are inaccurate "even the most fantastical slanders rely upon a germ of fact.”

>> Whomever wrote this paragraph, I want to give him one big smooch. Joking there. This paragraph is 90% spot on and the last sentence is half way there.

McCarty says there is no smoke without fire, which is correct. But what if that smoke was never a Phoenician smoke but a Greek/Roman smoke and fire. What if this is all projection? We know the Bloodlines and the Kabballah excel in this. How many times we’ve already seen it since the Awakening started? How many times did (((they))) throw their nasty crimes onto Potus? Take the example of Esptein, this is (((their))) crimes and yet, (((they))) outstretch (((themselves))) to pin it on Potus and the media chimes in. Good thing Potus is Mr. Teflon = nothing sticks on him, not even Kabbalah poop. He always shines and sparkles. I will be talking about the Greek/Roman sources when I reach that. For now, think about all of this.

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811bb6  No.14847353

>>14847344

(Please read from the start)

“The archaeological evidence is ambiguous. An osteological study of the remains at Carthage by Jeffrey Schwartz et al. suggested 38% of a sample of 540 individuals had died before or during childbirth, based on the size of the bones, the development of teeth, and the absence of neonatal lines on teeth. Another osteological study of the same material challenged these findings, arguing that it had not taken account of the shrinkage of the bones caused by the burning process. The form of the deposits in tophets is different from Carthaginian graves for non-infants, which usually took the form of burials, not cremations. Phoenician grave goods are also different from the objects found with the human remains in tophets. However, cross-culturally, funerary practices for infants often differ from those for non-infants.”

>> Nope, the archaeological evidence is NOT ambiguous. (((They))) simply want it to be and (((they))) are planting doubt in your mind. Schwartz is correct, he’s on the right path, his finding are correct. The “other” osteological study is NOT named nor do we know whom financed it or whom was the chief scientist leading the research/study.

Yes, what we found in the Tophet is different from the graves of non-infant = which the youngest in age was 5 years old. In other words, if you are under five years old and you died, you would be buried in the Tophet. If you were 5 years old and/or older and you died, you would be buried in Carthage’s Necropolis. It’s also correct that cremation was solely used for the burial in the Tophet while the burial in the Necropolis was a normal one, no cremations there. And yes, the “type of goods” in the graves and those found in the Tophet are different.

We gotta be careful about the cross-cultural practices, habits and traditions because here, we don’t have a “pure” Phoenician civilization/culture. We have a hybrid one where other elements mixed in it, mostly the Berber one; also anons can notice there is a touch of Ancient Egypt when you look at the artifacts and monuments found in Carthage. This means there are MIGRANTS from Ancient Egypt to Carthage and these migrants brought their “habits and traditions” with them. I’ve already explain this and it should be part of the Phoenician file….if you are keeping one.

“Many archaeologists argue that the ancient authors and the evidence of the Tophet indicates that all remains in the Tophet must have been sacrificed. Others argue that only some infants were sacrificed. Paolo Xella argues that "the principle of Occam’s Razor" indicates that the weight of classical and biblical sources indicate that the sacrifices occurred. He further argues that the number of children in the tophet is far smaller than the rate of natural infant mortality. In Xella's estimation, prenatal remains at the tophet are probably those of children who were promised to be sacrificed but died before birth, but who were nevertheless offered as a sacrifice in fulfillment of a vow. He concludes that the tophet was not theatre of numberless massacres, but only of a certain number of sacred ceremonies felt as pious, and the bloody rite was the extrema ratio in critic [sic!] situations (e.g. see the biblical cases). Moreover, it is assured that a lot of different ceremonies were performed in the tophet, included substitution rites (animal / human).”

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811bb6  No.14847374

>>14847353

(Please read from the start)

>> This paragraph is filled with B.S. according to me. There is no tangible evidence in Carthage in general and in the Tophet in particular, indicating human sacrifice occurred. And if you rely on the Bible…weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!! No comment. No, not SOME infants were sacrificed. NONE were sacrificed. Since (((they))) understood the number of researcher supporting the Phoenicians have increased, and more and more evidence is slowly coming out that the Phoenician never practiced human sacrificed; this is how (((they))) are slowly back peddling things and retracting from (((their))) vicious attacks and groundless accusations. Of course I will be explaining everything to anons. For now, I’m only commenting on this paragraph.

I agree that the rate of mortality of infants is incredibly high in Carthage and this is what baffled me for a long time. At first I thought of some type of disastrous type of sickness, like the Plague or the Tuberculosis but this doesn’t explain the pre-natal deaths. And this is where me and Moscati were stuck for a long time. We couldn’t advance = dig further/ investigate beyond this point because we didn’t know what caused this high number of deaths to occur in the first place.

Xella’s estimation is wrong and it’s in full contradiction with what is said about the Jews practicing human sacrifice at the Tophet in Jerusalem. Tophet of the Bible means they threw a child into the pyre while it was still alive…and we don’t have much details about what used to happen there. We already discussed this at the start of this Wikipedia page. So saying there are many different types of sacrifices performed at the Tophet of Carthage…how did they know that? And what evidence they have to support this? What are those “bloody” rites? I’ve never heard of them before.

And what is this “assurance” they are giving us such things happened here? If it was that bloody, where are the canalizations to evacuate the blood? Don’t tell me it was a stinking place with loads of carcasses and flies around like a slaughter house? How many deceases can emerge from a place like that, mostly cholera? That place must have attracted loads of rats too. Where are the ceremonial sacrificial knives if there were so much blood sprinkling around everywhere? Again, what are these assurances given to us by the accusers of the Phoenicians? Present the tangible, physical evidence please………… crickets………….. nothing………..total silence.

“The legendary death of Carthage's first queen Elissa (Dido) by immolation, as well as the deaths of Hamilcar and the wife of Hasdrubal in the same manner, has been connected to the tophet ritual by some scholars. It is possible that the practice was more frequent in the earlier years of the city.”

>> See what I meant when I was talking about Elissa? That story is being used over and over again as a FACT to support the theory that the Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice. It is used by the ancient accusers and the modern ones. I wonder how much all of these so called expert are paid to push forward these lies and whom is paying them.

Now anons understand what the subject is, how it started and what it means. Next I’m going to take a look at the context. I’m going to start a bit with the history of the City of Carthgae but since it’s very long I’m going to skip some parts in it and focus only on the information I will need. Then I’m going to move to the Tophet. It’s going to be very long, so please be patient, bare with me, all of this is necessary so you would understand what I’m going to talk about.

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811bb6  No.14847382

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>>14847374

(Please read from the start)

Let’s start with the history of the city of Carthage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Carthage

The following is going to be mostly a reading section to get anons acquainted with the subject:

“In historiographical terms, ancient Carthage (/ˈkɑːrθɪdʒ/) was a Phoenician civilization during classical antiquity, beginning from the founding of Carthage in modern Tunisia in the ninth century BC, to its destruction in 146 BC. At its height in the fourth century BC, the city-state grew to become the largest metropolis in the world, and the center of the Carthaginian Empire, a major power in the ancient world that dominated the western Mediterranean.

Carthage was settled around 814 BC by colonists from Tyre, a leading Phoenician city-state located in present day Lebanon. In the seventh century BC, following Phoenicia's conquest by the Neo-Assyrian Empire, Carthage became independent, gradually expanding its economic and political hegemony across the western Mediterranean. By 300 BC, through its vast patchwork of colonies, vassals, and satellite states, Carthage controlled the largest territory in the region, including the coast of northwest Africa, southern Iberia (Spain, Portugal, and Gibraltar) and the islands of Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, Malta, and the Balearic archipelago.

Among the ancient world's largest and richest cities, Carthage's strategic location provided access to abundant fertile land and major maritime trade routes.[9] Its extensive mercantile network reached as far as west Asia, west Africa and northern Europe, providing an array of commodities from all over the ancient world, in addition to lucrative exports of agricultural products and manufactured goods. This commercial empire was secured by one of the largest and most powerful navies in the ancient Mediterranean, and an army composed heavily of foreign mercenaries and auxiliaries, particularly Iberians, Balearics, Celtic Gauls, Sicilians, Italians, Greeks, Numidians and Libyans.

As the dominant power of the western Mediterranean, Carthage inevitably came into conflict with many neighbours and rivals, from the indigenous Berbers of North Africa to the nascent Roman Republic. Following centuries of conflict with the Sicilian Greeks, its growing competition with Rome culminated in the Punic Wars (264–146 BC), which saw some of the largest and most sophisticated battles in antiquity. Having narrowly avoided destruction in the Second Punic War, the Romans destroyed Carthage in 146 BC after the third and final Punic War, later founding a new city in its place. All remnants of Carthaginian civilization came under Roman rule by the first century AD, and Rome subsequently became the dominant Mediterranean power, paving the way for its rise as a major empire.”

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811bb6  No.14847388

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>>14847382

(Please read from the start)

“Notwithstanding the cosmopolitan character of its empire, Carthage's culture and identity remained rooted in its Phoenician-Canaanite heritage, albeit a localized variety known as Punic. Like other Phoenician people, its society was urban, commercial, and oriented towards seafaring and trade; this is reflected in part by its more famous innovations, including serial production, uncolored glass, the threshing board, and the cothon harbor. Carthaginians were renowned for their commercial prowess, ambitious explorations, and unique system of government, which combined elements of democracy, oligarchy, and republicanism, including modern examples of checks and balances.

Despite having been one of the most influential civilizations of antiquity, Carthage is mostly remembered for its long and bitter conflict with Rome, which threatened the rise of the Roman Republic and almost changed the course of Western civilization. Due to the destruction of virtually all Carthaginian texts after the Third Punic War, much of what is known about its civilization comes from Roman and Greek sources, many of whom wrote during or after the Punic Wars, and to varying degrees were shaped by the hostilities. Popular and scholarly attitudes towards Carthage historically reflected the prevailing Greco-Roman view, though archaeological research since the late 19th century has helped shed more light and nuance on Carthaginian civilization.”

>> And this is what’s most important here = the supposed destruction of the all the records in Carthage. Everything we know about them was written by their enemies = after all, history is written by the winner of the war, regardless if it’s correct or not. Imagine what we would be reading in history books if Hitler had won WW2 for example. Modern day scholars have, for most of them, based their views. “attitudes” or simply their “expert” opinion, on the biased opinion of the enemy of the Carthaginians.

“Etymology

The name Carthage /ˈkɑːrθɪdʒ/ is the Early Modern anglicisation of Middle French Carthage /kar.taʒ/, from Latin Carthāgō and Karthāgō (cf. Greek Karkhēdōn (Καρχηδών) and Etruscan *Carθaza) from the Punic qrt-ḥdšt (Punic: , lit. 'New City').

Punic, which is often used synonymously with Carthaginian, derives from the Latin poenus and punicus, based on the Ancient Greek word Φοῖνιξ (Phoinix), pl. Φοίνικες (Phoinikes), an exonym used to describe the Canaanite port towns with which the Greeks traded. Latin later borrowed the Greek term a second time as phoenix, pl. phoenices. Both Punic and Phoenician were used by the Romans and Greeks to refer to Phoenicians across the Mediterranean; modern scholars use the term Punic exclusively for Phoenicians in the western Mediterranean, such as the Carthaginians. Specific Punic groups are often referred to with hyphenated terms, like "Siculo-Punic" for Phoenicians in Sicily or "Sardo-Punic" for those in Sardinia. Ancient Greek authors sometimes referred to the mixed Punic inhabitants of North Africa ('Libya') as 'Liby-Phoenicians'.”

>> I do that. I used the words Punic or Carthage to point to the Colony in Tunisia and I use Phoenician for the Phoenician Motherland. Punic is a hybrid form of the Phoenicians where they mixed with the locals after building their settlements.

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811bb6  No.14847399

>>14847388

(Please read from the start)

“It is unclear what term, if any, the Carthaginians used to refer to themselves. The Phoenician homeland in the Levant was natively known as (Pūt) and its people as the (Pōnnim). Ancient Egyptian accounts suggest the people from the region identified as Kenaani or Kinaani, equivalent to Canaanite. A passage from Augustine has often been interpreted as indicating that the Punic-speakers in North Africa called themselves Chanani (Canaanites), but it has recently been argued that this is a misreading. Numismatic evidence from Sicily shows that some western Phoenicians made use of the term Phoinix.”

>> These are all just theories and guesses from later scholars and writers.

“Sources

Compared to contemporaneous civilizations such as Rome and Greece, far less is known about Carthage, as most indigenous records were lost in the wholesale destruction of the city after the Third Punic War. Sources of knowledge are limited to ancient translations of Punic texts into Greek and Latin, Punic inscriptions on monuments and buildings, and archaeological findings of Carthage's material culture. The majority of available primary sources about Carthage were written by Greek and Roman historians, most notably Livy, Polybius, Appian, Cornelius Nepos, Silius Italicus, Plutarch, Dio Cassius, and Herodotus. These authors came from cultures that were nearly always in competition with Carthage; the Greeks with respect to Sicily, and the Romans over dominance of the western Mediterranean. Inevitably, foreign accounts of Carthage usually reflect significant bias, especially those written during or after the Punic Wars, when the interpretatio Romana perpetuated a "malicious and distorted view". Excavations of ancient Carthaginian sites since the late 19th century has brought to light more material evidence that either contradict or confirm aspects of the traditional picture of Carthage; however, many of these findings remain ambiguous.”

>> Notables: “significant bias”, “perpetuated a malicious and distorted view”.

I don’t know about you anons, but I have tears in my eyes from laughter after reading the last sentence: so did they understand these material evidences or do they remain ambiguous? I’m confused after reading the contradiction in the last sentence. The truth is: a big bunch of “paid” experts or those with an agenda came out like lunatics and the accusations started raining down before anything could be properly studied and understood. The few of us whom were not falling in line were hit as well.

Just a side note: I always thought the Punic records in Carthage were destroyed when the Romans took the city but after being on this board and the start of the Awakening, I’m doubting these records were truly destroyed. I’m already suspecting the quipus from the Andean Region to be in the hands of the Jesuits, at least some of them. And now I’m also suspecting the Punic records of Carthage to have been transported to Rome, not fully destroyed, at least some of them. These are just my thoughts. Of course I’m unsure and there is nothing to prove that. Only the ones whom know what is in the Vatican’s archives can shed light on this.

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811bb6  No.14847407

>>14847399

(Please read from the start)

“History

Foundation legends

The specific date, circumstances, and motivations concerning Carthage's founding are unknown. All surviving accounts of the city's origins come from Latin and Greek literature, which are generally legendary in nature but may have some basis in fact.

The standard foundation myth across all sources is that the city was founded by colonists from the ancient Phoenician city-state of Tyre, led by its exiled princess Dido (also known as Queen Elissa or Alissar). Elissa's brother, Pygmalion (Phoenician: Pummayaton) had murdered her husband, the high priest of the city, and taken power as a tyrant. Elissa and her allies escaped his reign and established Carthage, which became a prosperous city under her rule as queen.”

The Roman historian Justin, writing in the second century AD, provides an account of the city's founding based on the earlier work of Trogus. Princess Elissa is the daughter of King Belus II of Tyre, who upon his death bequeaths the throne jointly to her and her brother Pygmalion. After cheating his sister out of her share of political power, Pygmalion murders her husband Acerbas (Phoenician: Zakarbaal), also known as Sychaeus, the High Priest of Melqart, whose wealth and power he covets. Before her tyrannical brother can take her late husband's wealth, Elissa immediately flees with her followers to establish a new city abroad.

Upon landing in North Africa, she is greeted by the local Berber chieftain, Iarbas (also called Hiarbas) who promises to cede as much land as could be covered by a single ox hide. With her characteristic cleverness, Dido cuts the hide into very thin strips and lays them end to end until they encircle the entire hill of Byrsa. While digging to set the foundation of their new settlement, the Tyrians discover the head of an ox, an omen that the city would be wealthy "but laborious and always enslaved". In response they move the site of the city elsewhere, where the head of a horse is found, which in Phoenician culture is a symbol of courage and conquest. The horse foretells where Dido's new city will rise, becoming the emblem of Carthage, derived from the Phoenician Qart-Hadasht, meaning "New City".

The city's wealth and prosperity attracts both Phoenicians from nearby Utica and the indigenous Libyans, whose king Iarbas now seeks Elissa's hand in marriage. Threatened with war should she refuse, and also loyal to the memory of her deceased husband, the queen orders a funeral pyre to be built, where she commits suicide by stabbing herself with a sword. She is thereafter worshiped as a goddess by the people of Carthage, who are described as brave in battle but prone to the "cruel religious ceremony" of human sacrifice, even of children, whenever they seek divine relief from troubles of any kind.

>> We already took at a look at all of this. How many years did it take Elissa to build the City? = 10, 20 years? And how long did it take for it to become a prosperous city and attract migrants from neighboring regions? = 10, 20 years. How old was Elissa then?

“Virgil's epic poem the Aeneid—written over a century after the Third Punic War—tells the mythical story of the Trojan hero Aeneas and his journey towards founding Rome, inextricably tying together the founding myths, and ultimate fates, of both Rome and Carthage. Its introduction begins by mentioning "an ancient city" that many readers likely assumed was Rome or Troy, but goes on to describe it as a place "held by colonists from Tyre, opposite Italy . .. a city of great wealth and ruthless in the pursuit of war. Its name was Carthage, and Juno is said to have loved it more than any other place … But she had heard that there was rising from the blood of Troy a race of men who in days to come would overthrow this Tyrian citadel … [and] sack the land of Libya."

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8c2f80  No.14854411

>>14847407

(Please read from the start)

“Virgil describes Queen Elissa—for whom he uses the ancient Greek name, Dido, meaning "beloved"—as an esteemed, clever, but ultimately tragic character. As in other legends, the impetus for her escape is her tyrannical brother Pygmalion, whose secret murder of her husband is revealed to her in a dream. Cleverly exploiting her brother's greed, Dido tricks Pygmalion into supporting her journey to find and bring back riches for him. Through this ruse she sets sail with gold and allies secretly in search of a new home.

As in Justin's account, upon landing in North Africa, Dido is greeted by Iarbas, and after he offers as much land as could be covered by a single ox hide, she cuts the hide into very thin strips and encircles all of Byrsa. While digging to set the foundation of their new settlement, the Tyrians discover the head of a horse, which in Phoenician culture is a symbol of courage and conquest. The horse foretells where Dido's new city will rise, becoming the emblem of the "New City" Carthage. In just seven years since their exodus from Tyre, the Carthaginians build a successful kingdom under Dido's rule. She is adored by her subjects and presented with a festival of praise. Virgil portrays her character as even more noble when she offers asylum to Aeneas and his men, who had recently escaped from Troy. The two fall in love during a hunting expedition, and Dido comes to believe they will marry. Jupiter sends a spirit in the form of the messenger god, Mercury, to remind Aeneas that his mission is not to stay in Carthage with his new-found love Dido, but to sail to Italy to found Rome. The Trojan departs, leaving Dido so heartbroken that she commits suicide by stabbing herself upon a funeral pyre with his sword. As she lies dying, she predicts eternal strife between Aeneas' people and her own, proclaiming "rise up from my bones, avenging spirit" in an invocation of Hannibal. Aeneas sees the smoke from the pyre as he sails away, and though he does not know the fate of Dido, he identifies it as a bad omen. Ultimately, his descendants will go on to found the Roman Kingdom, the predecessor of the Roman Empire.”

>> This is the joke of the century = building the city of Carthage and bringing it to its apogee = making it prosperous and wealthy, in just 7 years. Yeah, right! Whom built the city = Superman Trump? Only he can pull it off in 7 years.

“Like Justin, Virgil's story essentially conveys Rome's attitude towards Carthage, as exemplified by Cato the Elder's famous utterance, "Carthago delenda est"—"Carthage must be destroyed". In essence, Rome and Carthage were fated for conflict: Aeneas chose Rome over Dido, eliciting her dying curse upon his Roman descendants, and thus providing a mythical, fatalistic backdrop for a century of bitter conflict between Rome and Carthage.

These stories typify the Roman attitude towards Carthage: a level of grudging respect and acknowledgement of their bravery, prosperity, and even their city's seniority to Rome, along with derision of their cruelty, deviousness, and decadence, as exemplified by their practice of human sacrifice.”

>> Notable: these stories typify Roman attitude towards Carthage = level of grudging respect….but in the same time derision of their cruelty, deviousness and decadence, seen in the example of human sacrifice. As if the Roman didn’t do themselves any of all of this. To make it short, there was no T.V., internet or radio back then, this is the method to slander someone back in the Antiquity and destroy their public image, mostly if it’s an enemy.

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8c2f80  No.14854435

>>14854411

(Please read from the start)

What’s coming is about the history of Carthage, it’s mostly for anons to read and put you in the context. I’m going to comment only when necessary. In page 1 425, I said I had 4 pieces of evidences and 3 witnesses. I’m going to present these witnesses now, two of them. You have already been acquainted with 2 of these witnesses = the Greeks and the Romans. Next we are going to put these 2 on the witness stand and cross-examine them to see what this is about.

“Settlement as Tyrian colony (c. 814 BC)

To facilitate their commercial ventures, the Phoenicians established numerous colonies and trading posts along the coasts of the Mediterranean. Organized in fiercely independent city-states, the Phoenicians lacked the numbers or even the desire to expand overseas; most colonies had fewer than 1,000 inhabitants, and only a few, including Carthage, would grow larger. Motives for colonization were usually practical, such as seeking safe harbors for their merchant fleets, maintaining a monopoly on an area's natural resources, satisfying the demand for trade goods, and finding areas where they could trade freely without outside interference. Over time many Phoenicians also sought to escape their tributary obligations to foreign powers that had subjugated the Phoenician homeland. Another motivating factor was competition with the Greeks, who became a nascent maritime power and began establishing colonies across the Mediterranean and the Black Sea.”

>> It’s true that a lot of researchers think there was a Phoenician population in their colonies. It is thought there were just enough of them to run their trade business smoothly. The rest was a big blending pot type of population. Apart a few places which grew large, most of the Phoenician colonies were centered around the trading posts. Trade was the main purpose for the Phoenicians, not expansion, not conquer. Gradually, as the City-States of the Motherland grew weaker with time, some of the colonies got more and more autonomy. Yes, the Greeks started to emerge as a rival of the Phoenicians for the monopoly of trade in the Mediterranean Sea.

“The first Phoenician colonies in the western Mediterranean grew up on the two paths to Iberia's mineral wealth: along the northwest African coast and on Sicily, Sardinia, and the Balearic Islands. As the largest and wealthiest city-state among the Phoenicians, Tyre led the way in settling or controlling coastal areas. Strabo claims that the Tyrians alone founded three hundred colonies on the west African coast; though clearly an exaggeration, many colonies did arise in Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Iberia, and to a much lesser extent, on the arid coast of Libya. They were usually established as trading stations at intervals of about 30 to 50 kilometres along the African coast.

By the time they gained a foothold in Africa, the Phoenicians were already present in Cyprus, Crete, Corsica, the Balearic Islands, Sardinia, and Sicily, as well as on the European mainland, in what are today Genoa and Marseilles. Foreshadowing the later Sicilian Wars, settlements in Crete and Sicily continually clashed with the Greeks, and Phoenician control over all of Sicily was brief. Nearly all these areas would come under the leadership and protection of Carthage, which eventually founded cities of its own, especially after the decline of Tyre and Sidon.”

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2f472a  No.14860080

>>14854435

(Please read from the start)

“The site of Carthage was likely chosen by the Tyrians for several reasons. It was located in the central shore of the Gulf of Tunis, which gave it access to the Mediterranean sea while shielding it from the region's infamously violent storms. It was also close to the strategically vital Strait of Sicily, a key bottleneck for maritime trade between the east and west. The terrain proved as invaluable as the geography. The city was built on a hilly, triangular peninsula backed by the Lake of Tunis, which provided abundant supplies of fish and a place for safe harbor. The peninsula was connected to the mainland by a narrow strip of land, which combined with the rough surrounding terrain, made the city easily defensible; a citadel was built on Byrsa, a low hill overlooking the sea. Finally, Carthage would be conduit of two major trade routes: one between the Tyrian colony of Cadiz in southern Spain, which supplied raw materials for manufacturing in Tyre, and the other between North Africa and the northern Mediterranean, namely Sicily, Italy, and Greece.”

Independence, expansion and hegemony (c. 650–264 BC)

In contrast to most Phoenician colonies, Carthage grew larger and more quickly thanks to its combination of favorable climate, arable land, and lucrative trade routes. Within just one century of its founding, its population rose to 30,000. Meanwhile, its mother city, which for centuries was the preeminent economic and political center of Phoenician civilization, saw its status begin to wane in the seventh century BC, following a succession of sieges by the Babylonians. By this time, its Carthaginian colony had become immensely wealthy from its strategic location and extensive trade network. Unlike many other Phoenician city-states and dependencies, Carthage grew prosperous not only from maritime commerce but from its proximity to fertile agricultural land and rich mineral deposits. As the main hub for trade between Africa and the rest of the ancient world, it also provided a myriad of rare and luxurious goods, including terracotta figurines and masks, jewelry, delicately carved ivories, ostrich eggs, and a variety of foods and wine.

Carthage's growing economic prominence coincided with a nascent national identity. Although Carthaginians remained staunchly Phoenician in their customs and faith, by at least the seventh century BC, they had developed a distinct Punic culture infused with local influences. Certain deities became more prominent in the Carthaginian pantheon than in Phoenicia; into the fifth century BC, the Carthaginians were worshiping Greek deities such as Demeter. Carthage may have also retained religious practices that had long fallen out of favor in Tyre, such as child sacrifice. Similarly, it spoke its own Punic dialect of Phoenician, which also reflected contributions by neighboring peoples.”

>> I disagree with what is said about child sacrifice here. They are insinuating that this practice was taking place in Tyre at first, and it was transferred to Carthage and stayed there = the practice never died. But there is nothing tangible found in Tyre excavations to support child sacrifice was practiced there. And we are discussing already if child sacrifice took place in Carthage or not. We are in the process of taking a look at it.

“These trends most likely precipitated the colony's emergence as an independent polity. Though the specific date and circumstances are unknown, Carthage most likely became independent around 650 BC, when it embarked on its own colonization efforts across the western Mediterranean. It nonetheless maintained amicable cultural, political, and commercial ties with its founding city and the Phoenician homeland; it continued to receive migrants from Tyre, and for a time continued the practice of sending annual tribute to Tyre's temple of Melqart, albeit at irregular intervals”

>> These are estimations anons, it’s not confirmed.

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2f472a  No.14860085

>>14860080

(Please read from the start)

“By the sixth century BC, Tyre's power declined further still after its voluntary submission to the Persian king Cambyses (r. 530–522 BC), which resulted in the incorporation of the Phoenician homeland into the Persian empire. Lacking sufficient naval strength, Cambyses sought Tyrian assistance for his planned conquest of Carthage, which may indicate that the former Tyrian colony had become wealthy enough to warrant a long and difficult expedition. Herodotus claims that the Tyrians refused to cooperate due to their affinity for Carthage, causing the Persian king to abort his campaign. Though it escaped reprisal, Tyre's status as Phoenicia's leading city was significantly circumscribed; its rival, Sidon, subsequently garnered more support from the Persians. However, it too remained subjugated, leading the way for Carthage to fill the vacuum as the leading Phoenician political power.

Formation and characteristic of the empire

Although the Carthaginians retained the traditional Phoenician affinity for maritime trade and commerce, they were distinguished by their imperial and military ambitions: whereas the Phoenician city-states rarely engaged in territorial conquest, Carthage became an expansionist power, driven by its desire to access new sources of wealth and trade. It is unknown what factors influenced the citizens of Carthage, unlike those of other Phoenician colonies, to create an economic and political hegemony; the nearby city of Utica was far older and enjoyed the same geographical and political advantages, but never embarked on hegemonic conquest, instead coming under Carthaginian influence. One theory is that Babylonian and Persian domination of the Phoenician homeland produced refugees that swelled Carthage's population and transferred the culture, wealth, and traditions of Tyre to Carthage. The threat to the Phoenician trade monopoly—by Etruscan and Greek competition in the west, and through foreign subjugation of its homeland in the east—also created the conditions for Carthage to consolidate its power and further its commercial interests.”

>> It was not just migrants from Tyre, but from all over the Med Sea. Ancient Egypt had lost its luster and it was the scene of many coup d’états and one foreign dynasty after another succeeded on the throne of Ancient Egypt. It balloted from one hand to another for many centuries which created a lot of political and economic instabilities; which in turn generated many waves of migrants all over the place. So saying only Tyrian migrants went to Carthage after Tyre weakened, it’s misleading. A lot of things were taking place all over the Med Sea and there was a power shift in many places, so there were loads of migrants wave from all over. It’s natural for a big Metropolis like Carthage to attract a big number of these migrants.

“Another contributing factor may have been domestic politics: while little is known of Carthage's government and leadership prior to the third century BCE, the reign of Mago I (c. 550–530), and the political dominance of the Magonid family in subsequent decades, precipitated Carthage's rise as a dominant power. Justin states that Mago, who was also general of the army, was the first Carthaginian leader to "[set] in order the military system", which may have entailed the introduction of new military strategies and technologies. He is also credited with initiating, or at least expanding, the practice of recruiting subject peoples and mercenaries, as Carthage's population was too small to secure and defend its scattered colonies. Libyans, Iberians, Sardinians, and Corsicans were soon enlisted for the Magonid expansionist campaigns across the region.”

>> And what are the odds these “mercenaries” had spies within their ranks?

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2f472a  No.14860088

>>14860085

(Please read from the start)

“By the beginning of the fourth century BC, the Carthaginians had become the "superior power" of the western Mediterranean, and would remain so for roughly the next three centuries. Carthage took control of all nearby Phoenician colonies, including Hadrumetum, Utica, Hippo Diarrhytus and Kerkouane; subjugated many neighboring Libyan tribes, and occupied coastal North Africa from Morocco to western Libya. It held Sardinia, Malta, the Balearic Islands, and the western half of Sicily, where coastal fortresses such as Motya and Lilybaeum secured their possessions. The Iberian Peninsula, which was rich in precious metals, saw some of the largest and most important Carthaginian settlements outside North Africa, though the degree of political influence before the conquest by Hamilcar Barca (237–228 BC) is disputed. Carthage's growing wealth and power, along with the foreign subjugation of the Phoenician homeland, led to its supplanting of Sidon as the supreme Phoenician city state.

Carthage's empire was largely informal and multifaceted, consisting of varying levels of control exercised in equally variable ways. It established new colonies, repopulated and reinforced older ones, formed defensive pacts with other Phoenician city states, and acquired territories directly by conquest. While some Phoenician colonies willingly submitted to Carthage, paying tribute and giving up their foreign policy, others in Iberia and Sardinia resisted Carthaginian efforts. Whereas other Phoenician cities never exercised actual control of the colonies, the Carthaginians appointed magistrates to directly control their own (a policy that would lead to a number of Iberian towns siding with the Romans during the Punic Wars). In many other instances, Carthage's hegemony was established through treaties, alliances, tributary obligations, and other such arrangements. It had elements of the Delian League led by Athens (allies shared funding and manpower for defense), the Spartan Kingdom (subject peoples serving as serfs for the Punic elite and state) and, to a lesser extent, the Roman Republic (allies contributing manpower and tribute for Rome's war machine).

In 509 BC, Carthage and Rome signed the first of several treaties demarcating their respective influence and commercial activities. This is the first textual source demonstrating Carthaginian control over Sicily and Sardinia. The treaty also conveys the extent to which Carthage was, at the very least, on equal terms with Rome, whose influence was limited to parts of central and southern Italy. Carthaginian dominance of the sea reflected not only its Phoenician heritage, but an approach to empire-building that differed greatly from Rome. Carthage emphasized maritime trade over territorial expansion, and accordingly focused its settlements and influence on coastal areas while investing more on its navy. For similar reasons, its ambitions were more commercial than imperial, which is why its empire took the form of a hegemony based on treaties and political arrangements more than conquest. By contrast, the Romans focused on expanding and consolidating their control over the rest of mainland Italy, and would aim to extend its control well beyond its homeland. These differences would prove key in the conduct and trajectory of the later Punic Wars.”

>> This is correct. There was 2 very different views here = one wanted commercial dominance but not population submission, while the other wanted population submission and wanted to conquer. Two very different mentalities here as in one had commercial ambitions while the other had political ambitions.

“By the third century BC, Carthage was the center of a sprawling network of colonies and client states. It controlled more territory than the Roman Republic, and became one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the Mediterranean, with a quarter of a million inhabitants.”

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2f472a  No.14860098

>>14860088

(Please read from the start)

From here on, I’m putting the Greeks on the witness stand and cross-examining them = understanding their “type” of relationship with Carthage:

“Conflict with the Greeks (580–265 BC)

Unlike the existential conflict of the later Punic Wars with Rome, the conflict between Carthage and the Greeks centered on economic concerns, as each side sought to advance their own commercial interests and influence by controlling key trade routes. For centuries, the Phoenician and Greek city-states had embarked on maritime trade and colonization across the Mediterranean. While the Phoenicians were initially dominant, Greek competition increasingly undermined their monopoly. Both sides had begun establishing colonies, trading posts, and commercial relations in the western Mediterranean roughly contemporaneously, between the ninth and eighth centuries. Phoenician and Greek settlements, the increased presence of both peoples led to mounting tensions and ultimately open conflict, especially in Sicily.”

>> I do not agree with the first sentence: the conflict between the Greeks and the Carthaginians was “maybe” of a commercial type but there was also another conflict between the Greeks and the Phoenicians from the Motherland = an ideological and political one. We will take a look at it a bit further down.

“First Sicilian War (480 BC)

Carthage's economic successes, buoyed by its vast maritime trade network, led to the development of a powerful navy to protect and secure vital shipping lanes. Its hegemony brought it into increasing conflict with the Greeks of Syracuse, who also sought control of the central Mediterranean. Founded in the mid seventh century BC, Syracuse had risen to become one of the wealthiest and most powerful Greek city states, and the preeminent Greek polity in the region.

The island of Sicily, lying at Carthage's doorstep, became the main arena on which this conflict played out. From their earliest days, both the Greeks and Phoenicians had been attracted to the large, centrally-located island, each establishing a large number of colonies and trading posts along its coasts; battles raged between these settlements for centuries, with neither side ever having total, long-term control over the island.

In 480 BC, Gelo, the tyrant of Syracuse, attempted to unite the island under his rule with the backing of other Greek city-states. Threatened by the potential power of a united Sicily, Carthage intervened militarily, led by King Hamilcar of the Magonid dynasty. Traditional accounts, including by Herodotus and Diodorus, number Hamilcar's army at around 300,000; though likely exaggerated, it was likely of formidable strength.”

>> Indeed, Herodotus has this inclination of inflating the numbers in no-matter what the subject is. So we usually handle the numbers he gives us with “care”. Apart that, in general, the information he provides is rather good.

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63bdd0  No.14865843

>>14860098

(Please read from the start)

“While sailing to Sicily, Hamilcar suffered losses due to poor weather. Landing at Panormus (modern-day Palermo), he spent three days reorganizing his forces and repairing his battered fleet. The Carthaginians marched along the coast to Himera, making camp before engaging in battle against the forces of Syracuse and its ally Agrigentum. The Greeks won a decisive victory, inflicting heavy losses on the Carthaginians, including their leader Hamilcar, who was either killed during the battle or committed suicide in shame. As a result, the Carthaginian nobility sued for peace.”

>> We have one ending for Hamilcar = he died, but we have different reports of how he died = 1 – killed during battle or 2 – suicide out of shame for loosing. The first one is very possible, while the other is very obviously a propaganda idea. This is the type of ideology the Greeks project on their enemies = he died in shame, he ran away because he was a coward, she cried because she was sinful etc. They project a bad light onto the person they are against to destroy their public image, make him loose shameful. Like Potus is bad because he saw Epstein. Or Potus is a rapist because he was once recording saying something about grabbing pussies (sorry about that) – but I hope now anons get the idea. Or like Elissa and her group grabbed 80 prostitutes on the beach of Cyprus before heading to found Carthage. This is to paint the enemy or rival in a bad light in the mind of the general public = this is the method developed and applied for centuries by the Bloodlines and yes, (((they))) were running the show in some if not all of the Greek City-States because a huge migration waves from the Hittites settled into Ancient Greece and merged with their culture. With time, they took over and this is how (((they))) got into Greece and (((they))) build the classical = Hellenic Greek culture and later on build the Hellenistic culture.

“The conflict proved to be a major turning point for Carthage. Though it would retain some presence in Sicily, most of the island would remain in Greek (and later Roman) hands. The Carthaginians would never again expand their territory or sphere of influence on the island to any meaningful degree, instead turning their attention to securing or increasing their hold in North Africa and Iberia. The death of King Hamilcar and the disastrous conduct of the war also prompted political reforms that established an oligarchic republic. Carthage would henceforth constrain its rulers through assemblies of both nobles and the common people.

Second Sicilian War (410–404 BC)

By 410 BC, Carthage had recovered from its serious defeats in Sicily. It had conquered much of modern-day Tunisia and founded new colonies across northern Africa. It also extended its reach well beyond the Mediterranean; Hanno the Navigator journeyed down the West African coast, and Himilco the Navigator had explored the European Atlantic coast. Expeditions were also led into Morocco and Senegal, as well as the Atlantic. The same year, the Iberian colonies seceded, cutting off Carthage from a major source of silver and copper. The loss of such strategically important mineral wealth, combined with the desire to exercise firmer control over shipping routes, led Hannibal Mago, grandson of Hamilcar, to make preparations to reclaim Sicily.”

>> Oh the Carthaginians did more than just navigate down to West Africa and establish colonies and trading posts there. Just like their ancestors the Phoenicians, they circled Africa and both mapped it. I always considered both the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians doing this out of the spirit of adventure and for commercial gains. But after coming to this board and finding a big piece of the puzzle, I started to think that the circling and mapping of Africa had another purpose. Maybe….just maybe. I haven’t fully looked into it yet. It’s just that my thoughts are wondering in that direction now. I will talk about it when I reach it.

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63bdd0  No.14865852

>>14865843

(Please read from the start)

>> Whom said the defeat was of the humiliating type? Ah yes! = the Greek sources since most of the Carthaginian sources were destroyed. The truth is anons, we don’t know what type of defeat it was; all we know it was a defeat. Period. So saying it was “humiliating” is the Greeks adding their biased opinions in the story.

“In 409 BC, Hannibal Mago set out for Sicily with his force. He captured the smaller cities of Selinus (modern Selinunte) and Himera—where the Carthaginians had been dealt a humiliating defeat seventy years prior—before returning triumphantly to Carthage with the spoils of war.]But the primary enemy, Syracuse, remained untouched and in 405 BC, Hannibal Mago led a second Carthaginian expedition to claim the rest of the island.

This time, however, he met with fiercer resistance as well as misfortune. During the siege of Agrigentum, Carthaginian forces were ravaged by plague, which claimed Hannibal Mago himself. His successor, Himilco, managed to extend the campaign, capturing the city of Gela and repeatedly defeating the army of Dionysius of Syracuse. But he, too, was struck with plague and forced to sue for peace before returning to Carthage.”

>> Here, I want to get the attention of the readers on the “bad luck” of the Carthaginians. It’s like bad luck is glued to them. Or was it something else? I always wondered what are the odds of this bad luck occurring and re-occurring over and over again each time the Carthaginians were facing the Greeks and the Romans, but it was not there when facing others = like the tribes and territories they conquered in North Africa or in Iberia. This bad luck always shows up when they are facing the Greeks and the Romans. It’s as if there was some invisible hand always tilting the scale in the favor of the Greeks and the Romans. Keep an eye on this, we’ve already saw it happening trice now: with Hamilcar, with Hannibal Mago and with Himilco.

The situation is identical as if you are in casino playing roulette: what are the odds of the ball falling on the same number, let’s say number 21, over and over again, for like 10 or 14 times in a row? See what I mean? This was the same type of odd situation with the Carthaginians when they faced the Greeks then the Romans = how many times the ball would land on the same number = same type of thing striking.

“By 398 BC, Dionysius had regained his strength and broke the peace treaty, striking at the Carthaginian stronghold of Motya in western Sicily. Himilco responded decisively, leading an expedition that not only reclaimed Motya, but also captured Messene (present-day Messina). Within a year, the Carthaginians were besieging Syracuse itself, and came close to victory until the plague once again ravaged and reduced their forces.”

>> Amazing! Just as the Carthaginians were on the brink of victory, “another” plague strikes them AGAIN. Wow! See what I mean? Just keep an eye on such phenomena and you will notice there is a strange pattern re-occurring over and over again.

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63bdd0  No.14865856

>>14865852

(Please read from the start)

“The fighting in Sicily swung in favor of Carthage less than a decade later in 387 BC. After winning a naval battle off the coast of Catania, Himilco laid siege to Syracuse with 50,000 Carthaginians, but yet another epidemic struck down thousands of them. With the enemy assault stalled and weakened, Dionysius then launched a surprise counterattack by land and sea, destroying all the Carthaginian ships while its crews were ashore. At the same time, his ground forces stormed the besiegers' lines and routed them. Himilco and his chief officers abandoned their army and fled Sicily.Once again, the Carthaginians were forced to press for peace. Returning to Carthage in disgrace, Himilco was met with contempt and committed suicide by starving himself.”

>> Yet another strange “disaster” striking the Carthaginians and another “humiliating” defeat, if you believe what is reported here that is. What I see is invisible hands tampering with things and weighing on the scale for the sake of the Greeks, each time the Carthaginians are on the brink of winning. Also, I see bias in how the defeat of the Carthaginians is always portrayed as humiliating.

“Notwithstanding consistently poor luck and costly reversals, Sicily remained an obsession for Carthage. Over the next fifty years, an uneasy peace reigned, as Carthaginian and Greek forces engaged in constant skirmishes. By 340 BC, Carthage had been pushed entirely into the southwest corner of the island.”

>> LoL! “ Poor luck” = yeah, I’m sure it’s just that.

“Third Sicilian War

In 315 BC, Carthage found itself on the defensive in Sicily, as Agathocles of Syracuse broke the terms of the peace treaty and sought to dominate the entire island. Within four years, he seized Messene, laid siege to Agrigentum, and invaded the last Carthaginian holdings on the island.

Hamilcar, grandson of Hanno the Great, led the Carthaginian response with great success. Within a year of their arrival, the Carthaginians controlled almost all of Sicily and were besieging Syracuse. In desperation, Agathocles secretly led an expedition of 14,000 men to attack Carthage, forcing Hamilcar and most of his army to return home. Although Agathocles' forces were eventually defeated in 307 BC, he managed to escape back to Sicily and negotiate peace, thus maintaining the status quo and Syracuse as a stronghold of Greek power in Sicily.

Pyrrhic War (280–275 BC)

Carthage was once again drawn into a war in Sicily, this time by Pyrrhus of Epirus, who challenged both Roman and Carthaginian supremacy over the Mediterranean. The Greek city of Tarentum, in southern Italy, had come into conflict with an expansionist Rome, and sought the aid of Pyrrhus. Seeing an opportunity to forge a new empire, Pyrrhus sent an advance guard of 3,000 infantry to Tarentum, under the command of his adviser Cineaus. Meanwhile, he marched the main army across the Greek peninsula and won several victories over the Thessalians and Athenians. After securing the Greek mainland, Pyrrhus rejoined his advance guard in Tarentum to conquer southern Italy, winning a decisive but costly victory at Asculum.”

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63bdd0  No.14865861

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>>14865856

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“According to Justin, the Carthaginians worried that Pyrrhus might get involved in Sicily; Polybius confirms that existence of a mutual defense pact between Carthage and Rome, ratified shortly after the battle of Asculum. These concerns proved prescient: during the Italian campaign, Pyrrhus received envoys from the Sicilian Greek cities of Agrigentum, Leontini, and Syracuse, which offered to submit to his rule if he aided their efforts to eject the Carthaginians from Sicily. Having lost too many men in his conquest of Asculum, Pyrrhus determined that a war with Rome could not be sustained, making Sicily a more enticing prospect. He thus responded to the plea with reinforcements consisting of 20,000-30,000 infantry, 1,500-3,000 cavalry, and 20 war elephants supported by some 200 ships.

The ensuing Sicilian campaign lasted three years, during which the Carthaginians suffered several losses and reversals. Pyrrhus overcame the Carthaginian garrison at Heraclea Minoa and seized Azones, which prompted cities nominally allied to Carthage, such as Selinus, Halicyae, and Segesta, to join his side. The Carthaginian stronghold of Eryx, which had strong natural defenses and a large garrison, held out for a long period of time, but was eventually taken. Iaetia surrendered without a fight, while Panormus, which had the best harbour in Sicily, succumbed to a siege. The Carthaginians were pushed back to the westernmost portion of the island, holding only Lilybaeum, which was put under siege.

Following these losses, Carthage sued for peace, offering large sums of money and even ships, but Pyrrhus refused unless Carthage renounced its claims to Sicily entirely. The siege of Lilybaeum continued, with the Carthaginians successfully holding out due to the size of their forces, their large quantities of siege weapons, and the rocky terrain. As Pyrrhus' losses were mounting, he set out to build more powerful war engines; however, after two more months of dogged resistance, he abandoned the siege. Plutarch claimed that the ambitious king of Epirus now had his sights on Carthage itself, and began outfitting an expedition. In preparation for his invasion, he treated the Sicilian Greeks more ruthlessly, even executing two of their rulers on false charges of treason. The subsequent animosity among the Greeks of Sicily drove some to join forces with the Carthaginians, who "took up the war vigorously" upon noticing Pyrrhus' dwindling support. Cassius Dio claimed that Carthage had harboured the exiled Syracusans, and "harassed [Pyrrhus] so severely that he abandoned not only Syracuse but Sicily as well". A renewed Roman offensive also forced him to focus his attention on southern Italy.”

>> Just take a look whom this information is taken from: the Roman C.N.N. Makes you wonder from where they got the rest of the information, like whom talked about the “humiliating” defeats.

“According to both Plutarch and Appian, while Pyrrhus' army was being transported by ship to mainland Italy, the Carthaginian navy inflicted a devastating blow in the Battle of the Strait of Messina, sinking or disabling 98 out of 110 ships. Carthage sent additional forces to Sicily, and following Pyrrhus' departure, managed to regain control of their domains on the island.

Pyrrhus' campaigns in Italy ultimately proved inconclusive, and he eventually withdrew to Epirus. For the Carthaginians, the war meant a return to the status quo, as they once again held the western and central regions of Sicily. For the Romans, however, much of Magna Graecia gradually fell under their sphere of influence, bringing them closer to complete domination of the Italian peninsula. Rome's success against Pyrrhus solidified its status as a rising power, which paved the way for conflict with Carthage. In what is likely an apocryphal account, Pyrrhus, upon departing from Sicily, told his companions, "What a wrestling ground we are leaving, my friends, for the Carthaginians and the Romans".

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63bdd0  No.14865881

>>14865861

(Please read from the start)

After coming to this board, I don’t believe for one second that the “friction” between Greeks and the Phoenicians/Carthaginians started when what we read. I believe it started centuries ago and the animosity between the 2 started actually during the conflicts/wars between Ancient Egypt and the Hittites Empire. The Phoenician’s relationship with Ancient Egypt was always a cordial and friendly one. Ancient Egypt never tried to military conquer or invade the Phoenician City-States which benefitted of a huge autonomy and independence under the Ancient Egyptian influence. But the hostility between Ancient Egypt and the Hittite Empire was well known and many wars and confrontations occurred the most famous is the battle of Kadesh.

After the destruction of the Hittites Empire, there were many migration waves in all directions from the fallen Empire. A big number of migrants crossed to Europe in many waves, not all in one go. Some of these migrants went to inner Europe, forming the Frank tribes, some went to nowadays Italy and formed the Etruscans; while some settled down in Greece. All of these migrants carried with them their culture and beliefs and when they settled in the new areas, they merged with the local population. Greece was no different. So the NEW AGE in Greece was sculpted in what these migrants brought with them and merged it with the local population. It developed and expanded to become the Classical Age in Greece. Seems these migrants had brought their old grudges with them to the new settlements. The Phoenicians weren’t just the trade rivals of Greece but also their ideological rivals since the Phoenicians stood with their friend and ally = Ancient Egypt, during their conflict with the Hittites.

The animosity doesn’t stop there; it’s also shown during the Greco-Persian wars when the Phoenicians sided and helped the Persians against the Greeks. The Persian naval forces, for their conflict with the Greeks, were primarily provided by the seafaring people of the empire: Phoenicians, Cypriots, Egyptians and Cilicians. What most don’t know is that Cypriots and Cilicians were actually colonies founded by the Phoenicians or simply Phoenician City-States which got their independence from the Motherland. I’m trying to say there are Phoenician GENES or a Phoenician population in these places, outside of Motherland Phoenicia. We can say, they came at some point from one origin = one tribe. As an example, I can give you the naval battle of Salamis.

For a long time, I was in mind set that this is a conflict between an overly ambitious king (=the Persian) whom wanted to expand his empire and a people whom was defending itself from invasion = Greeks. But now, I know I must reassess my thoughts and my knowledge needs to be updated when it comes to this issue. Now, I am suspecting the real reason for this conflict is much deeper than anyone would have ever thought and it goes deep into the ideology of each side. I think this is a conflict either between 2 evil tribes for the dominance over the world; or this is a conflict between the children of the Light and the children of Darkness. I came to realize this 2 years ago and I haven’t found time to check things out and to reassess things because I’m a bit busy working on this thread. That conflict can wait a bit. But one thing is for certain about the Greco-Persian conflict = the children of Darkness won. One question is still hanging in the middle for me: whom were the Persians? = were they another evil tribe fighting for the dominance of the Evil Clan, as in: were they are one of the 13 families fighting another one of the 13 families? Or…were they the children of the Light fighting the children of Darkness? There is a lot to work on here and I didn’t have the time to lift a single piece of paper yet. But this can wait, I’m in no rush, there are more important points to tackle here.

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2426a6  No.14871545

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>>14865881

(Please read from the start)

To support my point take a very good look at the depravity of a comics called 300 and an even more depraved movie based on the comics. I only watched the trailer of the movie and I was about to vomit. This is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen in my life with the low level of moral in it. Take a look at how the Persian king is depicted in the movie/comic as a GIANT, perverted, insane, hateful, envious king. And then look how he truly was on this relief. Even the clothing is different. I mean if this is not a twisted projection of (((their))) nasty cult onto Xerxes and the Persians, I don’t know what is. Unfortunately, this is what is imbedded in the mind of the public. (((They))) successfully planted this seed into the minds of the public which diverted them incredibly far away from the truth and how things really are. If this is not twisting the truth and History, I don’t know what is anons. I don’t kno what is.

The animosity doesn’t stop there and it goes further and it takes its peak when Alexander of Macedonia started to conquer the Phoenician City-States. It’s a long story, but the most famous episode in this conquest was his siege of the City-State of Tyre. Tyre or Sur was a City-State divided into 2 sections = on mainland and on the small island facing the mainland. The last resistance against the new conqueror fortified themselves behind the fortress walls on the small island facing the mainland. It was besieged by Alexander but only for some time, until he came up with the idea of building a land bridge between the mainland and the island. And this is how the fortress fell.

But whom was Alexander the Great and why was he so great according to Main Stream History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great

“Alexander III of Macedon (Greek: Ἀλέξανδρος, Aléxandros; 20/21 July 356 BC – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great, was a king of the ancient Greek kingdom of Macedon. A member of the Argead dynasty, he was born in Pella—a city in Ancient Greece—in 356 BC. He succeeded his father King Philip II to the throne at the age of 20, and spent most of his ruling years conducting a lengthy military campaign throughout Western Asia and Northeastern Africa. By the age of thirty, he had created one of the largest empires in history, stretching from Greece to northwestern India. He was undefeated in battle and is widely considered to be one of history's greatest and most successful military commanders.

During his youth, Alexander was tutored by Aristotle until the age of 16. His father Philip was assassinated in 336 BC at the wedding of Cleopatra of Macedon, Alexander's sister, and Alexander assumed the throne of the Kingdom of Macedon. After sacking the city of Thebes, Alexander was awarded the generalship of Greece. He used his authority to launch his father's pan-Hellenic project, which involved him assuming the leadership position to all the Greeks in their conquest of Persia.”

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2426a6  No.14871548

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>>14871545

(Please read from the start)

“During his youth, Alexander was tutored by Aristotle until the age of 16. His father Philip was assassinated in 336 BC at the wedding of Cleopatra of Macedon, Alexander's sister, and Alexander assumed the throne of the Kingdom of Macedon. After sacking the city of Thebes, Alexander was awarded the generalship of Greece. He used his authority to launch his father's pan-Hellenic project, which involved him assuming the leadership position to all the Greeks in their conquest of Persia.”

>> He was supposed to be very educated and civilized.

“In 334 BC he invaded the Achaemenid Empire (Persian Empire) and began a series of campaigns that lasted 10 years. Following his conquest of Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey), Alexander broke the power of Persia in a series of decisive battles, including those at Issus and Gaugamela. He subsequently overthrew King Darius III and conquered the Achaemenid Empire in its entirety. At that point, his empire stretched from the Adriatic Sea to the Indus River. Alexander endeavored to reach the "ends of the world and the Great Outer Sea" and invaded India in 326 BC, achieving an important victory over King Porus at the Battle of the Hydaspes. He eventually turned back at the Beas River due to the demand of his homesick troops, dying in Babylon in 323 BC; the city he planned to establish as his capital. He did not manage to execute a series of planned campaigns that would have begun with an invasion of Arabia. In the years following his death, a series of civil wars tore his empire apart.

>> From all the cities and capitals in the world he specifically chose ancient Babylon. It always made me wonder why. But then, I remembered that the Evil Lady resettled in Mesopotamia after the Flood water receded. So I’m wondering if there is a connection between the choice of Alexander and the resettlement of the Evil Lady = as in maybe his choice was not random and he was choosing the same city-state which she, the Evil Lady, had picked to settle in. But this is not certain anons. It’s just a theory from my part. We know her cult was strong in Uruk. So you see, we have many city-states to look into. It’s not that easy.

As for the civil war mentioned here, I’ve already talked about it a bit and it’s known as the Diadochi wars.

“Alexander's legacy includes the cultural diffusion and syncretism which his conquests engendered, such as Greco-Buddhism and Hellenistic Judaism. He founded more than twenty cities that bore his name, most notably Alexandria in Egypt. Alexander's settlement of Greek colonists and the resulting spread of Greek culture resulted in Hellenistic civilization, which developed through the Roman Empire into modern Western culture. The Greek language became the lingua franca of the region and was the predominant language of the Byzantine Empire up until its end in the mid-15th century AD. Greek-speaking communities in central and far eastern Anatolia survived until the Greek genocide and the population exchange in the 1920s. Alexander became legendary as a classical hero in the mould of Achilles, featuring prominently in the history and mythic traditions of both Greek and non-Greek cultures. His military achievements and enduring, unprecedented success in battle made him the measure against which many later military leaders would compare themselves. Military academies throughout the world still teach his tactics. He is often ranked among the most influential people in human history.”

>> Anons noticed the “Hellenistic Judaism”? I’ve talked about this before and already explained on how Jews took Hellenistic names (pages 1 317- 1 318). I would also like to point out that this phenomena didn’t just happen with the Jews but with everyone in the conquered lands, including the Syrians, the Phoenicians, the Persians, the Egyptians etc.

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2426a6  No.14871553

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>>14871548

(Please read from the start)

“Early life

Lineage and childhood

Alexander was born in Pella, the capital of the Kingdom of Macedon, on the sixth day of the ancient Greek month of Hekatombaion, which probably corresponds to 20 July 356 BC (although the exact date is uncertain). He was the son of the king of Macedon, Philip II, and his fourth wife, Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemus I, king of Epirus. Although Philip had seven or eight wives, Olympias was his principal wife for some time, likely because she gave birth to Alexander.”

>> Please take note of the location on map of Epirus and do not forget that Olympias was a princess from there. You will need to remember this information a bit later on in order to understand what was really going on behind the scenes.

“Several legends surround Alexander's birth and childhood. According to the ancient Greek biographer Plutarch, on the eve of the consummation of her marriage to Philip, Olympias dreamed that her womb was struck by a thunderbolt that caused a flame to spread "far and wide" before dying away. Sometime after the wedding, Philip is said to have seen himself, in a dream, securing his wife's womb with a seal engraved with a lion's image. Plutarch offered a variety of interpretations for these dreams: that Olympias was pregnant before her marriage, indicated by the sealing of her womb; or that Alexander's father was Zeus. Ancient commentators were divided about whether the ambitious Olympias promulgated the story of Alexander's divine parentage, variously claiming that she had told Alexander, or that she dismissed the suggestion as impious.”

>> The Roman C.N.N. has spoken and given “divine” parentage to Alexander. Incredible how biased he is.

But here (((they))) are omitting = not mentioning another story concerning the parenting of Alexander. A story which Olympias used to brag with apparently and kept on repeating a lot to Alexander in his youth as if to brainwash him with it. The story goes as: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/8838/alexander-olympias-and-zeus-in-giulio-romanos-painting

“According to the myth, Alexander the Great was conceived through the sexual intercourse of Olympias and Zeus, as shown in the below painting by Giulio Romano.

But, who is the man whose face is showed in the top-right corner? And why did Giulio Romano paint the legs of Zeus as the body of a snake? What was it believed at that time (circa 1500) of this myth?

The man in the top right corner is Philip II of Macedon. According to legend, Zeus took to the serpent form and seduced and had coitus with his wife Olimpias and fathered Alexander the Great (or Alessandro Magno in Italian).

This is why Zeus is shown in the half serpent form. The legend also says that Philip caught a glimpse of this and hence one day would lose the eye through which he saw this. That is why Romano shows him being blinded by Zeus's eagle.”

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8e5e53  No.14878040

>>14871553

(Please read from the start)

“Philip lost his eye in the siege of Methone in 355-354 B.C. a year after Alexander was born.

Plutarch's The Life of Alexander details the legend. I quote the relevant sections:

II.

Once Philip found his wife asleep, with a large tame snake stretched beside her; and this, it is said, quite put an end to his passion for her, and made him avoid her society…

III.

We are told that Philip after this portent sent Chairon of Megalopolis to Delphi, to consult the god there, and that he delivered an oracular response bidding him sacrifice to Zeus Ammon, and to pay especial reverence to that god: warning him, moreover, that he would some day lose the sight of that eye with which, through the chink of the half-opened door, he had seen the god consorting with his wife in the form of a serpent.”

>> See the difference between the real historical account on Philip’s lost his eye and how Plutarch told the tale?

Also did anon catch how Zeus transformed into a Serpent? This is the only myth/tale with Zeus in a serpent form. This is so far away from the traditional image we have of Zeus whom is famous for having the eagle as his symbol. I think this is a huge mutation and a distortion. This is projecting that the father of Alexander was a person from the Serpent Sebetti Clan = Bloodline. This is why Olympias used to brag so much about Alexander being the son of Zeus. But the real question is: was it Philip or was it from another man?

“On the day Alexander was born, Philip was preparing a siege on the city of Potidea on the peninsula of Chalcidice. That same day, Philip received news that his general Parmenion had defeated the combined Illyrian and Paeonian armies and that his horses had won at the Olympic Games. It was also said that on this day, the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus, one of the Seven Wonders of the World, burnt down. This led Hegesias of Magnesia to say that it had burnt down because Artemis was away, attending the birth of Alexander. Such legends may have emerged when Alexander was king, and possibly at his instigation, to show that he was superhuman and destined for greatness from conception.”

>> Here, (((they))) are hinting a second time to the parentage of Alexander as in him being a descendant of the Bloodlines. But not just any Bloodline family = the descendant of the Evil Couple. This is why supposedly, according to legend, Artemis left her shrine unattended to help with his birth = this is a projection to say he is a direct descendant of the Evil Couple. And this proves my point about Ephesus and everything that I’ve talked about when the cult of the Evil Lady is concerned = follow the sacred prostitution.

“In his early years, Alexander was raised by a nurse, Lanike, sister of Alexander's future general Cleitus the Black. Later in his childhood, Alexander was tutored by the strict Leonidas, a relative of his mother, and by Lysimachus of Acarnania. Alexander was raised in the manner of noble Macedonian youths, learning to read, play the lyre, ride, fight, and hunt.”

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8e5e53  No.14878051

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>>14878040

(Please read from the start)

“When Alexander was ten years old, a trader from Thessaly brought Philip a horse, which he offered to sell for thirteen talents. The horse refused to be mounted, and Philip ordered it away. Alexander, however, detecting the horse's fear of its own shadow, asked to tame the horse, which he eventually managed. Plutarch stated that Philip, overjoyed at this display of courage and ambition, kissed his son tearfully, declaring: "My boy, you must find a kingdom big enough for your ambitions. Macedon is too small for you", and bought the horse for him. Alexander named it Bucephalas, meaning "ox-head". Bucephalas carried Alexander as far as India. When the animal died (because of old age, according to Plutarch, at age thirty), Alexander named a city after him, Bucephala.”

>> See how Plutarch depicts Alexander? See how he puts him in such a good light and writes in a way to make him look great? As for the relationship between Alexander and Bucephalas…well, there are loads of strange rumors about it, including the practice of beastiality is suspected by some researchers, as in Alexander was in love with his horse, literally. No jokes there anons. Of course this is not proven, but it’s a topic that generated a lot of heated debates….and loads of ink was poured because of this relationship between Alexander and his beloved horse. There are a lot of strange rumors about it all.

“Education

When Alexander was 13, Philip began to search for a tutor, and considered such academics as Isocrates and Speusippus, the latter offering to resign from his stewardship of the Academy to take up the post. In the end, Philip chose Aristotle and provided the Temple of the Nymphs at Mieza as a classroom. In return for teaching Alexander, Philip agreed to rebuild Aristotle's hometown of Stageira, which Philip had razed, and to repopulate it by buying and freeing the ex-citizens who were slaves, or pardoning those who were in exile.

Mieza was like a boarding school for Alexander and the children of Macedonian nobles, such as Ptolemy, Hephaistion, and Cassander. Many of these students would become his friends and future generals, and are often known as the "Companions". Aristotle taught Alexander and his companions about medicine, philosophy, morals, religion, logic, and art. Under Aristotle's tutelage, Alexander developed a passion for the works of Homer, and in particular the Iliad; Aristotle gave him an annotated copy, which Alexander later carried on his campaigns.

[…]”

>> In other words anons, they all shared the same ideology and had the same education = brought up the same way.

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0247e1  No.14885817

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>>14878051

(Please read from the start)

“Exile and return

When Philip returned to Pella, he fell in love with and married Cleopatra Eurydice in 338 BC, the niece of his general Attalus. The marriage made Alexander's position as heir less secure, since any son of Cleopatra Eurydice would be a fully Macedonian heir, while Alexander was only half-Macedonian. During the wedding banquet, a drunken Attalus publicly prayed to the gods that the union would produce a legitimate heir.

At the wedding of Cleopatra, whom Philip fell in love with and married, she being much too young for him, her uncle Attalus in his drink desired the Macedonians would implore the gods to give them a lawful successor to the kingdom by his niece. This so irritated Alexander, that throwing one of the cups at his head, "You villain," said he, "what, am I then a bastard?" Then Philip, taking Attalus's part, rose up and would have run his son through; but by good fortune for them both, either his over-hasty rage, or the wine he had drunk, made his foot slip, so that he fell down on the floor. At which Alexander reproachfully insulted over him: "See there," said he, "the man who makes preparations to pass out of Europe into Asia, overturned in passing from one seat to another."

— Plutarch, describing the feud at Philip's wedding.

In 337 BC, Alexander fled Macedon with his mother, dropping her off with her brother, King Alexander I of Epirus in Dodona, capital of the Molossians. He continued to Illyria, where he sought refuge with one or more Illyrian kings, perhaps with Glaukias, and was treated as a guest, despite having defeated them in battle a few years before. However, it appears Philip never intended to disown his politically and militarily trained son. Accordingly, Alexander returned to Macedon after six months due to the efforts of a family friend, Demaratus, who mediated between the two parties.

In the following year, the Persian satrap (governor) of Caria, Pixodarus, offered his eldest daughter to Alexander's half-brother, Philip Arrhidaeus. Olympias and several of Alexander's friends suggested this showed Philip intended to make Arrhidaeus his heir. Alexander reacted by sending an actor, Thessalus of Corinth, to tell Pixodarus that he should not offer his daughter's hand to an illegitimate son, but instead to Alexander. When Philip heard of this, he stopped the negotiations and scolded Alexander for wishing to marry the daughter of a Carian, explaining that he wanted a better bride for him. Philip exiled four of Alexander's friends, Harpalus, Nearchus, Ptolemy and Erigyius, and had the Corinthians bring Thessalus to him in chains.”

>> “He wanted a better bride for him” = it’s all about keeping that precious bloodline of (((theirs))) pure.

“King of Macedonia

Accession

In summer 336 BC, while at Aegae attending the wedding of his daughter Cleopatra to Olympias's brother, Alexander I of Epirus, Philip was assassinated by the captain of his bodyguards, Pausanias. As Pausanias tried to escape, he tripped over a vine and was killed by his pursuers, including two of Alexander's companions, Perdiccas and Leonnatus. Alexander was proclaimed king on the spot by the nobles and army at the age of 20.”

>> Anyone reading notice how the ties between Olympias and Alexander to Epirus never broke? Did she name her son after her brother? It’s extremely convenient how the assassin was killed before he could be questioned on his reasons for killing Philip.

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a613d5  No.14885968

File: 25bfe11923cdb7c⋯.jpg (844.71 KB, 2560x1800, 64:45, Alexander_mosaic_House_of_….jpg)

>>14885817

(Please read from the start)

“Consolidation of power

Alexander began his reign by eliminating potential rivals to the throne. He had his cousin, the former Amyntas IV, executed. He also had two Macedonian princes from the region of Lyncestis killed, but spared a third, Alexander Lyncestes. Olympias had Cleopatra Eurydice and Europa, her daughter by Philip, burned alive. When Alexander learned about this, he was furious. Alexander also ordered the murder of Attalus, who was in command of the advance guard of the army in Asia Minor and Cleopatra's uncle.

[…]”

>> Olympias was famous for her cruelty.

“The Levant and Syria

In spring 333 BC, Alexander crossed the Taurus into Cilicia. After a long pause due to an illness, he marched on towards Syria. Though outmanoeuvered by Darius's significantly larger army, he marched back to Cilicia, where he defeated Darius at Issus. Darius fled the battle, causing his army to collapse, and left behind his wife, his two daughters, his mother Sisygambis, and a fabulous treasure. He offered a peace treaty that included the lands he had already lost, and a ransom of 10,000 talents for his family. Alexander replied that since he was now king of Asia, it was he alone who decided territorial divisions. Alexander proceeded to take possession of Syria, and most of the coast of the Levant. In the following year, 332 BC, he was forced to attack Tyre, which he captured after a long and difficult siege. The men of military age were massacred and the women and children sold into slavery.

[…].”

>> It’s more than obvious that Alexander was the direct descendant of the Evil Couple. Some anons and researchers online like to push the idea that the Phoenicians/Canaanites are the ancestors of current day Bloodline families, mostly the Merovingian Bloodline. Ask yourselves anons: if this was the case, then why would the heir of that “precious” bloodline would massacre his own people if the Phoenicians were (((their))) ancestors? Do you massacre a friend or an enemy? If the Phoenicians were the ancestors of current day Bloodlines then their women would have married the Macedonian soldiers and commanders in the army to keep their blood pure for the future generation. But they didn’t, instead, the men were massacred = executed and the women and children sold into slavery.

There was this real genius on twitter I once read a tweet of her when the incident of the Suez Canal occurred and the Evergiven was stuck there. After some acrobatics (which was mind boggling to read) she finally came up to the conclusion that current day Bloodlines are using the ships for human trafficking just like their ancestors the Phoenicians used their trade to traffic humans back then. Double face palm from the old man. Really!?!?!?! Why not point that everyone used to navigate and everyone used to sell slaves? From Ancient Egypt, to Mesopotamia, to Mesoamerica, to the Andean Region, to Ancient China, to Ancient India, to Ancient Japan etc. It was done by everyone and everywhere. But with some incredible abracadabra this lady managed to find a “logical” path, according to her of course, that nowadays usage of ships in human trafficking was because the Phoenicians used to be the masters of the Seas and they dominated trade. I honestly didn’t know if I wanted to laugh or cry when I read her tweet. Some people are just sooooo….. I don’t know what to say.

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3fe586  No.14892202

File: b289677ebb44cf7⋯.jpg (103.9 KB, 591x591, 1:1, Alexander_The_Great_Coin_w….jpg)

>>14885968

(Please read from the start)

Just look at Narmer Palette and the rest of the pre-dynastic palettes to SEE with your own eyes how the prisoners were treated: some were executed and others were taken as slaves. And don’t forget, we are talking about pre-dynastic times in Ancient Egypt here. This is just one tiny example I’m giving anons to prove to you how absurd the “logic” of this lady was.

“Egypt

When Alexander destroyed Tyre, most of the towns on the route to Egypt quickly capitulated. However, Alexander was met with resistance at Gaza. The stronghold was heavily fortified and built on a hill, requiring a siege. When "his engineers pointed out to him that because of the height of the mound it would be impossible… this encouraged Alexander all the more to make the attempt".After three unsuccessful assaults, the stronghold fell, but not before Alexander had received a serious shoulder wound. As in Tyre, men of military age were put to the sword and the women and children were sold into slavery.”

>> Again do you execute and put into slavery your ally or your enemy?

“Egypt was only one of a large number of territories taken by Alexander from the Persians. After his trip to Siwa, Alexander was crowned in the temple of Ptah at Memphis. It appears that the Egyptian people did not find it disturbing that he was a foreigner - nor that he was absent for virtually his entire reign. Alexander restored the temples neglected by the Persians and dedicated new monuments to the Egyptian gods. In the temple of Luxor, near Karnak, he built a chapel for the sacred barge. During his brief months in Egypt, he reformed the taxation system on the Greek models and organized the military occupation of the country, but, early in 331 BCE, he left for Asia in pursuit of the Persians.

Egypt was only one of a large number of territories taken by Alexander from the Persians. After his trip to Siwa, Alexander was crowned in the temple of Ptah at Memphis. It appears that the Egyptian people did not find it disturbing that he was a foreigner - nor that he was absent for virtually his entire reign. Alexander restored the temples neglected by the Persians and dedicated new monuments to the Egyptian gods. In the temple of Luxor, near Karnak, he built a chapel for the sacred barge. During his brief months in Egypt, he reformed the taxation system on the Greek models and organized the military occupation of the country, but, early in 331 BCE, he left for Asia in pursuit of the Persians.

Alexander advanced on Egypt in later 332 BC, where he was regarded as a liberator. To legitimize taking power and be recognized as the descendant of the long line of pharaohs, Alexander made sacrifices to the gods at Memphis and went to consult the famous oracle of Amun-Ra at the Siwa Oasis. He was pronounced son of the deity Amun at the Oracle of Siwa Oasis in the Libyan desert. Henceforth, Alexander often referred to Zeus-Ammon as his true father, and after his death, currency depicted him adorned with the Horns of Ammon as a symbol of his divinity. The Greeks interpreted this message - one that the gods addressed to all pharaohs - as a prophecy.

During his stay in Egypt, he founded Alexandria, which would become the prosperous capital of the Ptolemaic Kingdom after his death. Control of Egypt passed to Ptolemy I (son of Lagos), the founder of the Ptolemaic Dynasty (305-30 BCE) after the death of Alexander.”

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3fe586  No.14892211

File: 3f3592bb7ae1008⋯.jpg (301.69 KB, 1280x612, 320:153, Map_of_Alexander_s_empire_….jpg)

>>14892202

(Please read from the start)

>> It was not strange for the Egyptians to see a foreigner on the throne in Egypt. The XIXth dynasty is known as being the last strong dynasty of native Pharaohs. After that the decline started. For the XXVth dynasty, the Pharaohs were Ethiopian; as for the XXVIIthe dynasty, the Pharaohs were Persian, as in the Persian kings ruled Egypt. So you see anons, with the central power in Egypt weak, it was easy for foreign rulers to sit on the throne of Egypt.

Yes, the iconography of Alexander with Ammon’s horns on coins is as famous as his with the Leonte, on some coins, where he was equated to Hercules. The Oracle of Siwa is there to flatter the ego of the new conqueror.

“Assyria and Babylonia

Leaving Egypt in 331 BC, Alexander marched eastward into Achaemenid Assyria in Upper Mesopotamia (now northern Iraq) and defeated Darius again at the Battle of Gaugamela. Darius once more fled the field, and Alexander chased him as far as Arbela. Gaugamela would be the final and decisive encounter between the two. Darius fled over the mountains to Ecbatana (modern Hamadan) while Alexander captured Babylon.

Babylonian astronomical diaries says that "the king of the world, Alexander" sends his scouts with a message to the people of Babylon before entering the city; "I shall not enter your houses".”

>> When he said that it means he is not going to rape the women, sell them with the children as slaves and he will not ransack the place. He surely knows how to take care of his future capital and to take into consideration the citizens of his future capital. Amazing isn’t it? Look how he treated other places/City-States and look how he is behaving here.

“Persia

From Babylon, Alexander went to Susa, one of the Achaemenid capitals, and captured its treasury. He sent the bulk of his army to the Persian ceremonial capital of Persepolis via the Persian Royal Road. Alexander himself took selected troops on the direct route to the city. He then stormed the pass of the Persian Gates (in the modern Zagros Mountains) which had been blocked by a Persian army under Ariobarzanes and then hurried to Persepolis before its garrison could loot the treasury.

On entering Persepolis, Alexander allowed his troops to loot the city for several days. Alexander stayed in Persepolis for five months. During his stay a fire broke out in the eastern palace of Xerxes I and spread to the rest of the city. Possible causes include a drunken accident or deliberate revenge for the burning of the Acropolis of Athens during the Second Persian War by Xerxes; Plutarch and Diodorus allege that Alexander's companion, the hetaera Thaïs, instigated and started the fire. Even as he watched the city burn, Alexander immediately began to regret his decision. Plutarch claims that he ordered his men to put out the fires, but that the flames had already spread to most of the city. Curtius claims that Alexander did not regret his decision until the next morning. Plutarch recounts an anecdote in which Alexander pauses and talks to a fallen statue of Xerxes as if it were a live person:

Shall I pass by and leave you lying there because of the expeditions you led against Greece, or shall I set you up again because of your magnanimity and your virtues in other respects?”

>> It’s more than obvious that Alexander had a hidden agenda or should I say hidden intentions in everything he was doing. That fire was clearly intentional and (((they))) are admitting half way through it was.

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a0e9c3  No.14898599

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>>14892211

(Please read from the start)

Here is a bit more about the destruction of Persepolis: https://www.worldhistory.org/article/214/alexander-the-great–the-burning-of-persepolis/

“In the year 330 BCE Alexander the Great (l. 356-323 BCE) conquered the Achaemenid Persian Empire following his victory over the Persian Emperor Darius III (r. 336-330 BCE) at the Battle of Gaugamela in 331 BCE. After Darius III's defeat, Alexander marched to the Persian capital city of Persepolis and, after looting its treasures, burned the great palace and surrounding city to the ground, destroying hundreds of years' worth of religious writings and art along with the magnificent palaces and audience halls which had made Persepolis the jewel of the empire.”

>> Now why would Alexander, the “civilized and educated” student of Aristotle, king of Macedonia , act in this barbaric way and destroy a magnificent city like that, but spare Babylon? Why would he go as far as to “destroy hundreds of years’ worth of religious writings and art”? It’s obvious this was his real target = the archives/records of Persepolis. For a long time, I used to think this precious archive was destroyed and gone for good. But now, I’m reconsidering because I know the Bloodlines families are collectors of artifacts and information. Also anyone noticed how Alexander never conquered Epirus by the way - look at map?

“[…]

The Destruction of Persepolis

Xerxes I had invaded Greece in 480 BCE, burning villages, cities and temples (including the Parthenon of Athens) until defeated at the naval Battle of Salamis and later at the Battle of Platea. The 480 BCE invasion of the Persian wars was long remembered by the Greeks and is given as the primary motivation for why Alexander burned Persepolis, although every account also notes that Alexander and his men were drunk when they decided to destroy the city. When Alexander the Great arrived at Persepolis, it was among the most impressive in the world, and when he left, it was a ruin whose spot would be known for generations only as 'the place of the forty columns' for the remaining palace columns left standing in the sand among the ruins.”

>> This is the official narrative presented by the Main Stream History relying heavily on the second-hand Greek accounts.

“Exactly why Alexander would burn the great city which, as conqueror, he now owned (and especially considering his well-known interest in the arts and sciences and love of Persian culture) is a question which historians have made answer to for centuries, most of them agreeing that the fire was started at the instigation of the hetaira (courtesan) from Athens, Thais. Thais was at this time the lover of Ptolemy I, one of Alexander's generals, bodyguards, and one of his oldest friends (possibly also his half-brother). She may also have been among Alexander's lovers as the historian Athenaeus claims that Alexander liked to “keep Thais with him” though this could simply mean that she, like many women, was simply someone whose company he enjoyed. A hetaira was more than just a high-class prostitute; she was also skilled in singing, recitation of poetry, and storytelling which were talents often more highly valued than just sex.”

>> Do you remember Ptolemy I was exiled by Philip – page 1 524? Anyone wonders why? Look at the eyes of Alexander and at the eye of Ptolemy, what’s the common point between them? Is that a common trait? Wasn’t Ptolemy known for being a weasel? A group of high-class prostitutes was traveling with the king’s army during his military campaign and the king used to enjoy some of their company for more than just sex. Were they priestesses of the sacred prostitution cult?

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a0e9c3  No.14898603

>>14898599

(Please read from the start)

“The following are the best-known ancient accounts of the burning of Persepolis, all of them written centuries after the event, but based on earlier works now lost. In all of them, except Arrian's, the story follows the same basic narrative of the Macedonian conquerors celebrating with too much wine and deciding to set the city on fire in retaliation for the burning of Athens in 480 BCE.”

>> Mutation is obvious with “centuries” apart and just look whom is writing all of this. The reason of this being retaliation for the burning of Athens is most probably made up. I used to think this is true, but now, I begin to doubt this being the real cause. Anons can read what these “scholars” wrote in the link, I’m going to skip most of it.

“Diodorus Siculus

One most famous accounts of the burning of the great city comes from the historian Diodorus Siculus in his Bibliotheca Historica who gives the following version of the destruction of the city:

[…]

But the great royal palace, famed throughout the inhabited world, had been condemned to the indignity of total destruction. The Macedonians spent the whole day in pillage but still could not satisfy their inexhaustible greed. As for the women, they dragged them away forcibly with their jewels, treating as slaves the whole group of captives. As Persepolis had surpassed all other cities in prosperity, so she now exceeded them in misfortune. (17.70.1-6)

[…]

Alexander held games to celebrate his victories; he offered magnificent sacrifices to the gods and entertained his friends lavishly. One day when the Companions were feasting, and intoxication was growing as the drinking went on, a violent madness took hold of these drunken men. One of the women present, Thais, the Athenian lover of the Macedonian commander Ptolemy, declared that it would be Alexander's greatest achievement in Asia to join in their procession and set fire to the royal palace, allowing women's hands to destroy in an instant what had been the pride of the Persians.

These words were spoken to young men who were completely out of their minds because of drink, and someone, as expected, shouted to lead off the procession and light torches, exhorting them to punish the crimes committed against the Greek sanctuaries. Others joined in the cry and said that only Alexander was worthy of this deed. The king was excited with the rest by these words. They all leaped out from the banquet and passed the word around to form a triumphal procession in honour of Dionysus.

A quantity of torches was quickly collected, and as female musicians had been invited to the banquet, it was to the sound of singing and flutes and pipes that the king led them to the revel, with Thais the courtesan conducting the ceremony. She was the first after the king to throw her blazing torch into the palace. As the others followed their example the whole area of the royal palace was quickly engulfed in flames. (17.72.1-6)”

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40d1c0  No.14905044

>>14898603

(Please read from the start)

>> Please read and re-read this again.

We have: a group of prostitutes + we have musicians + we have drunk people meaning a lot of wine was served + they were all together in one place + they were feasting, held a banquet + Alexander offered sacrifices to the gods + violent “madness” took over the drunken men + they formed a triumphal possession in honor of Dionysus + Then the courtesan conducted the “ceremony” – the CEREMONY.

Do anons see what this is? Do you realize what is being described here? We have right under our noses the description of a Bacchanalia being performed with an orgy and ritualistic sacrifices taking place. The burning and destruction of the royal palace of Persepolis was a satanic offering, a satanic ritual; most probably connected to the cult of the Evil Lady.

Remember the Rothschild ball? Research and compare. Do you still doubt Alexander was a member from the Bloodline families, most probably the direct descendant of the Evil Couple? Connect with the details we have about his birth and young age.

Of course this Greek writer should be handled carefully because of his bias, just like the rest of his fellow writers. Why? Well, take a good look how he camouflaged the satanic ritual, carefully omitting the horrible parts, disguising the real events by cutting the scenes and changing the narration in a way to give you bits and pieces of the ritual and not present in one big block as it is. He also writes in a way as if nothing of bad or horrible is happening, justifying the acts committed by the conquerors. He simplified the event to turn it from a horror show to a casual banquet with the people attending it burning the royal palace of Persepolis in the end.

“[…]

Arrian

The historian Arrian of Nicomedia (l. 87-160 CE) disagreed with these others, however, and, in his account, drew upon the primary sources of Ptolemy and Aristobulus, both of whom were allegedly eye-witnesses to the event. Arrian claims:

Ptolemy and Aristobulus are the most trustworthy writers on Alexander's conquests, because the latter shared Alexander's campaigns, and the former -Ptolemy- in addition to this advantage, was himself a king, and it is more disgraceful for a king to tell lies than for anybody else. (III.18.11-12)

Arrian believed the motivation for burning Persepolis was so apparent, he did not bother to elaborate beyond, what he saw as, stating the obvious. According to Arrian, Persepolis was deliberately and soberly burned as retribution for the Persians burning Athens in 480 BCE. Arrian writes, "Alexander burnt up the palace at Persepolis to avenge the Greeks because the Persians had destroyed both temples and cities of the Greeks by fire and sword."

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40d1c0  No.14905051

>>14905044

(Please read from the start)

“Since neither Ptolemy nor Aristobulus claims any knowledge of a drunken party leading to the fire, Arrian assumes no such party existed. Yet he, himself, says, "even the most trustworthy writers, men who were actually with Alexander at the time, have given conflicting accounts of notorious events with which they must have been perfectly familiar" and admits that what actually prompted the burning of Persepolis may never be known.”

>> Yup! This is what we used to think too, you know = we will never know the real reason why Alexander and co. burned down the royal palace of Persepolis. But now, after coming to this board, let’s just say I’m suspecting it was a satanic ritual. I’m seeing things differently, but I’m also hesitating to be certain a 100% about this. Let’s just say it’s looking like a satanic ritual for me.

Anyone apart me chuckled when reading Arrian saying that a king disgraces himself when he lies. LoL! That is a very foolish way to see things, mostly when you know that kings lie all the time because they are in the heart of politics and when you mention politics it means it’s founded on deceit.

“Conclusion

Even so, Athenaeus, writing c. 200 CE, maintains Thais' connection to the burning of the city. He writes, "And did not Alexander the Great keep with him Thais, the Athenian prostitute? Cleitarchus speaks of her as having occasioned the burning of the palace at Persepolis." An immediate cause for Alexander's actions is suggested, though never explicitly stated, by Diodorus. He notes that, as Alexander and his army approached Persepolis, they were met by a crowd of 800 Greek artisans who had been held captive at Persepolis. These people - elderly men and women - had been taken prisoner years before and, as skilled workers, were set to various tasks at the city. They were mutilated, however - some losing a hand or a foot - so they could not escape (Diodorus, 17.69.1-9).”

>> This is a biased, fairy-tale, made up excuse to justify the horrors done by the Greek conquerors. This is the propaganda machine working in full swing here.

“Alexander and his senior staff, Diodorus reports, were greatly moved by this encounter with the artisans, and this may have motivated Alexander to treat Persepolis as poorly as he did. After Gaugamela, Alexander had marched to the city of Susa - which surrendered without contest - and he prohibited his troops from damaging it or harming any of the citizens. By contrast, when he arrived at Persepolis, he let his troops loose, encouraging them to sack the city and doing nothing to stop them from raping and killing anyone they found within the walls.”

>> So much for being civilized and having a moral compass as the Ancient Greeks always portrayed / projected their civilization and culture to be.

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40d1c0  No.14905053

>>14905051

(Please read from the start)

“Whatever Alexander's motivation may have been, he is said to have regretted his actions the very next morning and for the rest of his short life. The destruction of Persepolis was an immense loss of the accumulated learning, art, and culture of ancient Persia. The religious works of early Zoroastrianism, written on goat-skin parchment, were destroyed along with artworks, tapestries, and other priceless cultural artifacts. The administrative records of the city, written in cuneiform tablets of clay, were hard-baked by the fire and buried under rubble, surviving to the present day and providing archaeologists with vital information on how the Persian Empire operated and what the people valued. Even so, what was lost in the fire has long been recognized as irreplaceable, and whatever motivated the destruction of Persepolis cannot finally matter.”

>> Yes, the cultural and knowledge value that we lost cannot be replaced nor calculated as the Persians had collected ancient records. I’m wondering one more time if “some important documents” didn’t make it out and ended up in the hands of the Bloodlines. What were (((they))) truly trying to destroy? And what was in those records the Bloodlines wanted to make disappear = not let the rest of humanity know the secrets within?

Anons can read the rest in the article if they are interested using the link. Let’s get back to where we left off with the Alexander Wikipedia page and I’m going to skip the unwanted parts. Again, anons can read them themselves depending on your interest:

“[…]

Macedon in Alexander's absence

When Alexander set out for Asia, he left his general Antipater, an experienced military and political leader and part of Philip II's "Old Guard", in charge of Macedon. […] There was also considerable friction between Antipater and Olympias, and each complained to Alexander about the other.”

In general, Greece enjoyed a period of peace and prosperity during Alexander's campaign in Asia. Alexander sent back vast sums from his conquest, which stimulated the economy and increased trade across his empire. However, Alexander's constant demands for troops and the migration of Macedonians throughout his empire depleted Macedon's strength, greatly weakening it in the years after Alexander, and ultimately led to its subjugation by Rome after the Third Macedonian War (171–168 BC).

[…]

Last years in Persia

Discovering that many of his satraps and military governors had misbehaved in his absence, Alexander executed several of them as examples on his way to Susa. As a gesture of thanks, he paid off the debts of his soldiers, and announced that he would send over-aged and disabled veterans back to Macedon, led by Craterus. His troops misunderstood his intention and mutinied at the town of Opis. They refused to be sent away and criticized his adoption of Persian customs and dress and the introduction of Persian officers and soldiers into Macedonian units.”

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e9592f  No.14913783

>>14905053

(Please read from the start)

“After three days, unable to persuade his men to back down, Alexander gave Persians command posts in the army and conferred Macedonian military titles upon Persian units. The Macedonians quickly begged forgiveness, which Alexander accepted, and held a great banquet with several thousand of his men. In an attempt to craft a lasting harmony between his Macedonian and Persian subjects, Alexander held a mass marriage of his senior officers to Persian and other noblewomen at Susa, but few of those marriages seem to have lasted much beyond a year. Meanwhile, upon his return to Persia, Alexander learned that guards of the tomb of Cyrus the Great in Pasargadae had desecrated it, and swiftly executed them. Alexander admired Cyrus the Great, from an early age reading Xenophon's Cyropaedia, which described Cyrus's heroism in battle and governance as a king and legislator. During his visit to Pasargadae Alexander ordered his architect Aristobulus to decorate the interior of the sepulchral chamber of Cyrus's tomb.

Afterwards, Alexander travelled to Ecbatana to retrieve the bulk of the Persian treasure. There, his closest friend and possible lover, Hephaestion, died of illness or poisoning. Hephaestion's death devastated Alexander, and he ordered the preparation of an expensive funeral pyre in Babylon, as well as a decree for public mourning. Back in Babylon, Alexander planned a series of new campaigns, beginning with an invasion of Arabia, but he would not have a chance to realize them, as he died shortly after Hephaestion.”

>> We just found out Alexander had a homosexual lover. This means he was bisexual. Don’t you find his behavior rather “odd” anons? I mean he treated the Persian people so bad in Persepolis, and yet he admired Cyrus the Great. As well as he puts Persians in gvt and military posts. Doesn’t this point to having a contradictory behavior? A lot of persons question the sanity of Alexander = his mental sanity that is. Or could he simply have switched from one Bloodline family to another and this change of behavior towards the Persian elites is a result of that? Loads to think about here.

“Death and succession

On either 10 or 11 June 323 BC, Alexander died in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar II, in Babylon, at age 32. There are two different versions of Alexander's death, and details of the death differ slightly in each. Plutarch's account is that roughly 14 days before his death, Alexander entertained admiral Nearchus and spent the night and next day drinking with Medius of Larissa. He developed a fever, which worsened until he was unable to speak. The common soldiers, anxious about his health, were granted the right to file past him as he silently waved at them. In the second account, Diodorus recounts that Alexander was struck with pain after downing a large bowl of unmixed wine in honour of Heracles, followed by 11 days of weakness; he did not develop a fever, instead dying after some agony. Arrian also mentioned this as an alternative, but Plutarch specifically denied this claim.

Given the propensity of the Macedonian aristocracy to assassination, foul play featured in multiple accounts of his death. Diodorus, Plutarch, Arrian and Justin all mentioned the theory that Alexander was poisoned. Justin stated that Alexander was the victim of a poisoning conspiracy, Plutarch dismissed it as a fabrication, while both Diodorus and Arrian noted that they mentioned it only for the sake of completeness. The accounts were nevertheless fairly consistent in designating Antipater, recently removed as Macedonian viceroy, and at odds with Olympias, as the head of the alleged plot. Perhaps taking his summons to Babylon as a death sentence, and having seen the fate of Parmenion and Philotas, Antipater purportedly arranged for Alexander to be poisoned by his son Iollas, who was Alexander's wine-pourer. There was even a suggestion that Aristotle may have participated.”

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e9592f  No.14913796

>>14913783

(Please read from the start)

“The strongest argument against the poison theory is the fact that twelve days passed between the start of his illness and his death; such long-acting poisons were probably not available. However, in a 2003 BBC documentary investigating the death of Alexander, Leo Schep from the New Zealand National Poisons Centre proposed that the plant white hellebore (Veratrum album), which was known in antiquity, may have been used to poison Alexander. In a 2014 manuscript in the journal Clinical Toxicology, Schep suggested Alexander's wine was spiked with Veratrum album, and that this would produce poisoning symptoms that match the course of events described in the Alexander Romance. Veratrum album poisoning can have a prolonged course and it was suggested that if Alexander was poisoned, Veratrum album offers the most plausible cause. Another poisoning explanation put forward in 2010 proposed that the circumstances of his death were compatible with poisoning by water of the river Styx (modern-day Mavroneri in Arcadia, Greece) that contained calicheamicin, a dangerous compound produced by bacteria.

Several natural causes (diseases) have been suggested, including malaria and typhoid fever. A 1998 article in the New England Journal of Medicine attributed his death to typhoid fever complicated by bowel perforation and ascending paralysis. Another recent analysis suggested pyogenic (infectious) spondylitis or meningitis. Other illnesses fit the symptoms, including acute pancreatitis and West Nile virus. Natural-cause theories also tend to emphasize that Alexander's health may have been in general decline after years of heavy drinking and severe wounds. The anguish that Alexander felt after Hephaestion's death may also have contributed to his declining health.”

>> Alexander was 32 years old when he died. Apart being young, he was very healthy and fit, mostly because he was a warrior whom led many battles and participated in military campaign at a young age. There is nothing supporting a “natural” cause of death, as in him catching some type of bacteria or illness. No decisive signs or indication of that at all.

It’s more than obvious that he was poisoned to his death. The fitness of the body = healthy body, the type of poison and the dosage of the poison can all play a role into the symptoms and the duration. Alexander as an heir to the throne must have certainly been taking small dosages of poison since he was young to create some sort of immunity towards poison. This is not surprising and it’s not the first time we hear rulers do that since childhood to avoid being poisoned in the future when they ascend to the throne. This means that, up to some degree, Alexander was immune towards poisons. What type of poison was he given? I have no idea. What was the dosage of the poison so it would affect him this much despite his immunity towards poisons? I also have no idea.

One thing for certain that whomever poisoned him, already knew he had a somewhat immunity towards poison and it seems it’s not the first attempt to poison him = get rid of him. And it’s certain this person is someone very very close to him, part of his close entourage. And it may be that this poison was administered to Alexander over a prolonged period of time in various dosages. Some researcher suspect Ptolemy of being the one whom poisoned him or at least being behind it all = the mastermind.

Alexander gained a lot of enemies by preferring the Persian elites over the Macedonian ones. It looks like he switched the leading Bloodline family supporting him which angered that family. This proves that the Bloodline families were dispersed all over the world and they had infiltrated many nations and civilizations. It’s amazing how easily they manage to recognize one another; remember how the Spanish nobility welcomed the Aztec nobility into their ranks? I think (((they))) recognize each other since long ago through secret signs, symbols and of course because of the disgusting cult (((they))) all practice. I will be explaining how this occurred once I reach that point in this thread, because I figured it out and I understand what happened.

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e9592f  No.14913803

>>14913796

(Please read from the start)

“After death

Alexander's body was laid in a gold anthropoid sarcophagus that was filled with honey, which was in turn placed in a gold casket. According to Aelian, a seer called Aristander foretold that the land where Alexander was laid to rest "would be happy and unvanquishable forever". Perhaps more likely, the successors may have seen possession of the body as a symbol of legitimacy, since burying the prior king was a royal prerogative.

While Alexander's funeral cortege was on its way to Macedon, Ptolemy seized it and took it temporarily to Memphis. His successor, Ptolemy II Philadelphus, transferred the sarcophagus to Alexandria, where it remained until at least late Antiquity. Ptolemy IX Lathyros, one of Ptolemy's final successors, replaced Alexander's sarcophagus with a glass one so he could convert the original to coinage. The recent discovery of an enormous tomb in northern Greece, at Amphipolis, dating from the time of Alexander the Greathas given rise to speculation that its original intent was to be the burial place of Alexander. This would fit with the intended destination of Alexander's funeral cortege. However, the memorial was found to be dedicated to the dearest friend of Alexander the Great, Hephaestion.

[…]”

>> We do not know where Alexander is buried. The story of Ptolemy seizing his sarcophagus and transporting it to Memphis is just that = a story. Nothing was found in Egypt. So far.

“Division of the empire

Alexander's death was so sudden that when reports of his death reached Greece, they were not immediately believed. Alexander had no obvious or legitimate heir, his son Alexander IV by Roxane being born after Alexander's death. According to Diodorus, Alexander's companions asked him on his deathbed to whom he bequeathed his kingdom; his laconic reply was "tôi kratistôi"—"to the strongest". Another theory is that his successors wilfully or erroneously misheard "tôi Kraterôi"—"to Craterus", the general leading his Macedonian troops home and newly entrusted with the regency of Macedonia.

Arrian and Plutarch claimed that Alexander was speechless by this point, implying that this was an apocryphal story. Diodorus, Curtius and Justin offered the more plausible story that Alexander passed his signet ring to Perdiccas, a bodyguard and leader of the companion cavalry, in front of witnesses, thereby nominating him.

Perdiccas initially did not claim power, instead suggesting that Roxane's baby would be king, if male; with himself, Craterus, Leonnatus, and Antipater as guardians. However, the infantry, under the command of Meleager, rejected this arrangement since they had been excluded from the discussion. Instead, they supported Alexander's half-brother Philip Arrhidaeus. Eventually, the two sides reconciled, and after the birth of Alexander IV, he and Philip III were appointed joint kings, albeit in name only.”

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e9592f  No.14913819

File: 8762e28816331b5⋯.png (1.07 MB, 1280x615, 256:123, Diadochi_kingdoms.png)

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>>14913803

(Please read from the start)

“Dissension and rivalry soon afflicted the Macedonians, however. The satrapies handed out by Perdiccas at the Partition of Babylon became power bases each general used to bid for power. After the assassination of Perdiccas in 321 BC, Macedonian unity collapsed, and 40 years of war between "The Successors" (Diadochi) ensued before the Hellenistic world settled into four stable power blocs: Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Mesopotamia and Central Asia, Attalid Anatolia, and Antigonid Macedon. In the process, both Alexander IV and Philip III were murdered.

[…]”

>> The 40 years which followed the death of Alexander were the theater of many wars between his commanders, known as the Diadochi wars. It was one heck of a crazy era where back stabbing, treachery, conspiracies, murders, deceit etc. were the daily routine. The map kept on changing as the borders kept on shifting for every single kingdom. The political situation was highly unstable and today’s ally was tomorrow’s enemy and vice versa. At the end, the big empire of Alexander was divided by the strongest and the most cunning of his commanders. The Diadochi wars were a fight between the Bloodlines families to secure for themselves the best = wealthiest, chunk of the empire to rule. This period is very intertwined and hard to understand. But it gives us a good idea how the Horned Serpent commanders must have behaved after the death of the Evil One. I already talked about this on page 952.

“Character

Generalship

Alexander perhaps earned the epithet "the Great" due to his unparalleled success as a military commander; he never lost a battle, despite typically being outnumbered. This was due to use of terrain, phalanx and cavalry tactics, bold strategy, and the fierce loyalty of his troops. The Macedonian phalanx, armed with the sarissa, a spear 6 metres (20 ft) long, had been developed and perfected by Philip II through rigorous training, and Alexander used its speed and manoeuvrability to great effect against larger but more disparate Persian forces. Alexander also recognized the potential for disunity among his diverse army, which employed various languages and weapons. He overcame this by being personally involved in battle, in the manner of a Macedonian king.

[…]”

>> It truly is amazing how a young lad managed with so few soldiers to defeat so many different armies and conquer such a big territory. It’s like magic.

“Physical appearance

Historical sources frequently give conflicting accounts of Alexander's appearance, and the earliest sources are the most scant in their detail. During his lifetime, Alexander carefully curated his image by commissioning works from famous and great artists of the time. This included commissioning sculptures by Lysippos, paintings by Apelles and gem engravings by Pyrgoteles. Ancient authors recorded that Alexander was so pleased with portraits of himself created by Lysippos that he forbade other sculptors from crafting his image; scholars today, however, find the claim dubious. Nevertheless, Andrew Stewart highlights the fact that artistic portraits, not least because of who they are commissioned by, are always partisan, and that artistic portrayals of Alexander "seek to legitimize him (or, by extension, his Successors), to interpret him to their audiences, to answer their critiques, and to persuade them of his greatness", and thus should be considered within a framework of "praise and blame", in the same way sources such as praise poetry are. Despite those caveats, Lysippos's sculpture, famous for its naturalism, as opposed to a stiffer, more static pose, is thought to be the most faithful depiction.

[…]”

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9aa99f  No.14921575

>>14913819

(Please read from the start)

“Both Curtius and Diodorus report a story that when Darius III's mother, Sisygambis, first met Alexander and Hephaestion, she assumed that the latter was Alexander because he was the taller and more handsome of the two.

[…]

Historians have understood the detail of the pleasant odour attributed to Alexander as stemming from a belief in ancient Greece that pleasant scents are characteristic of gods and heroes.

The Alexander Mosaic and contemporary coins portray Alexander with "a straight nose, a slightly protruding jaw, full lips and eyes deep set beneath a strongly pronounced forehead". Although the Alexander Mosaic depicts him with brown hair, the ancient historian Aelian (c. 175 – c. 235 AD), in his Varia Historia (12.14), describes Alexander as having fair, or golden, hair.”

>> The physical features of the Bloodlines can be studied and used in many types of comparison.

“Personality

As is the case with personality traits in general, Alexander's prominent personality traits reflected those of his parents. His mother had huge ambitions, and encouraged him to believe it was his destiny to conquer the Persian Empire. Olympias's influence instilled a sense of destiny in him, and Plutarch tells how his ambition "kept his spirit serious and lofty in advance of his years".However, his father Philip was probably Alexander's most immediate and influential role model, as the young Alexander watched him campaign practically every year, winning victory after victory while ignoring severe wounds. Alexander's relationship with his father "forged" the competitive side of his personality; he had a need to outdo his father, illustrated by his reckless behavior in battle. While Alexander worried that his father would leave him "no great or brilliant achievement to be displayed to the world", he also downplayed his father's achievements to his companions.”

>> Olympias had a far greater influence on Alexander than anyone thinks and is admitted here.

“According to Plutarch, among Alexander's traits were a violent temper and rash, impulsive nature, which undoubtedly contributed to some of his decisions. Although Alexander was stubborn and did not respond well to orders from his father, he was open to reasoned debate. He had a calmer side—perceptive, logical, and calculating. He had a great desire for knowledge, a love for philosophy, and was an avid reader. This was no doubt in part due to Aristotle's tutelage; Alexander was intelligent and quick to learn. His intelligent and rational side was amply demonstrated by his ability and success as a general. He had great self-restraint in "pleasures of the body", in contrast with his lack of self-control with alcohol.

[…]”

>> LoL! This paragraph is fun to read as it contains so many contradictions. He was short tempered but patient. He was impulsive and yet he has a rational side and he was logical and calculating. He had great self-restraint in the pleasures of the body and yet, he used to participate in huge orgies, Bacchanalias and was bi-sexual. So which is the real Alexander? Or….maybe, he is truly all of this as in he had a double personality or was mentally unstable? Think about this for now.

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9aa99f  No.14921596

>>14921575

(Please read from the start)

“During his final years, and especially after the death of Hephaestion, Alexander began to exhibit signs of megalomania and paranoia. His extraordinary achievements, coupled with his own ineffable sense of destiny and the flattery of his companions, may have combined to produce this effect. His delusions of grandeur are readily visible in his will and in his desire to conquer the world, in as much as he is by various sources described as having boundless ambition, an epithet, the meaning of which has descended into an historical cliché.”

>> He was a big narcissist and delusional. I used to think this was due to his mother, then his friends influence on him and behavior towards him. But now I don’t think this anymore. I think there is another reason behind it all and it’s partially = in an indirect way = because he was from a Bloodline family; not just any Bloodline family, but THE Bloodline family = the direct descendant of the Evil Couple. And yes, I will explain when I reach why he behaved this way. Oh! And by the way, do you remember Killary and how she behaves? Compare.

“He appears to have believed himself a deity, or at least sought to deify himself. Olympias always insisted to him that he was the son of Zeus, a theory apparently confirmed to him by the oracle of Amun at Siwa. He began to identify himself as the son of Zeus-Ammon. Alexander adopted elements of Persian dress and customs at court, notably proskynesis, which was one aspect of Alexander's broad strategy aimed at securing the aid and support of the Iranian upper classes; however the practise of proskynesis was disapproved by the Macedonians, and they were unwilling to perform it. This behaviour cost him the sympathies of many of his countrymen. However, Alexander also was a pragmatic ruler who understood the difficulties of ruling culturally disparate peoples, many of whom lived in kingdoms where the king was divine. Thus, rather than megalomania, his behaviour may simply have been a practical attempt at strengthening his rule and keeping his empire together.”

>> Oh no, no, no, no! Don’t try to justify his megalomaniac behavior. He was like that from the get go. He is as wicked and narcissistic as his mother was. And he did consider himself a god; there is no if or maybe about that FACT. He was delusional and a pure narcissist thanks to his twisted upbringing by Olympias. I used to think this is the sole reason why he ended up the mess that he was, but now I think I was half way there cause I found out more which contributed to him being that way = being a direct descendant of the Evil Couple. This is more significant than anons can imagine.

“Personal relationships

Alexander married three times: Roxana, daughter of the Sogdian nobleman Oxyartes of Bactria, out of love; and the Persian princesses Stateira II and Parysatis II, the former a daughter of Darius III and latter a daughter of Artaxerxes III, for political reasons. He apparently had two sons, Alexander IV of Macedon by Roxana and, possibly, Heracles of Macedon from his mistress Barsine. He lost another child when Roxana miscarried at Babylon.”

>> LoL! They just said a few paragraphs ago that he had great self-restraint in the pleasures of the body and yet, here we found out he had at least 3 wives, had a mistress as well. And he fathered at least 3 children. We mustn’t forget that he also used to spend a lot of times with high-class prostitutes and he even had one male lover for a long time. So much for self-restraint in the pleasures of the body. I don’t know to which extend I should take into consideration the miscarriage of Roxane. It’s important, a notable…but to which degree.

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9aa99f  No.14921620

>>14921596

(Please read from the start)

“Alexander also had a close relationship with his friend, general, and bodyguard Hephaestion, the son of a Macedonian noble. Hephaestion's death devastated Alexander. This event may have contributed to Alexander's failing health and detached mental state during his final months.

Alexander's sexuality has been the subject of speculation and controversy in modern times. The Roman era writer Athenaeus says, based on the scholar Dicaearchus, who was Alexander's contemporary, that the king "was quite excessively keen on boys", and that Alexander kissed the eunuch Bagoas in public. This episode is also told by Plutarch, probably based on the same source. None of Alexander's contemporaries, however, are known to have explicitly described Alexander's relationship with Hephaestion as sexual, though the pair was often compared to Achilles and Patroclus, whom classical Greek culture painted as a couple. Aelian writes of Alexander's visit to Troy where "Alexander garlanded the tomb of Achilles, and Hephaestion that of Patroclus, the latter hinting that he was a beloved of Alexander, in just the same way as Patroclus was of Achilles." Some modern historians (e.g., Robin Lane Fox) believe not only that Alexander's youthful relationship with Hephaestion was sexual, but that their sexual contacts may have continued into adulthood, which went against the social norms of at least some Greek cities, such as Athens, though some modern researchers have tentatively proposed that Macedonia (or at least the Macedonian court) may have been more tolerant of homosexuality between adults.”

>> Now we found out, on top being bi-sexual, he was also a pedophile and he also kissed an eunuch. Anons, he fits perfectly as someone from the Bloodline families, doesn’t he? And if you bring together the idea that he was a pedophile with the bacchanalias he used to attend….then….ask yourselves what used to take place in such “parties”? Isn’t this the cult of the Evil Lady practiced as the sacred prostitution and the Bacchanalia? Doesn’t this open the possibility of Alexander being a pedovore?

“According to Diodorus Siculus, Alexander accumulated a harem in the style of Persian kings, but he used it rather sparingly, "not wishing to offend the Macedonians",showing great self-control in "pleasures of the body".Nevertheless, Plutarch described how Alexander was infatuated by Roxana while complimenting him on not forcing himself on her. Green suggested that, in the context of the period, Alexander formed quite strong friendships with women, including Ada of Caria, who adopted him, and even Darius's mother Sisygambis, who supposedly died from grief upon hearing of Alexander's death.”

>> Nope. This is why the MEDIA of back then = the Greek scholars and writers, trying to cover and embellish the depravity of their beloved Bloodline Elite king. They hide his flaws or sugar coat them and they do their best to bring out the best image of him to the public. Isn’t this the same thing nowadays MSM do regarding the Kabballah, the Deep State and mostly Killary? See how long (((they))) have been manipulating and/or influencing public opinion?

I’m done with Alexander, but also I want to take a look at a member of his family.

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9aa99f  No.14921657

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>>14921620

(Please read from the start)

Let’s look at Olympias, Alexander’s mother: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympias

“Olympias (Ancient Greek: Ὀλυμπιάς, pronounced [olympiás], c. 375–316 BC[) was the eldest daughter of king Neoptolemus I of Epirus, the sister of Alexander I of Epirus, the fourth wife of Philip II, the king of Macedonia and the mother of Alexander the Great. She was extremely influential in Alexander's life and was recognized as de facto leader of Macedon during Alexander's conquests. After her son's death, she fought on behalf of Alexander's son Alexander IV, successfully defeating Adea Eurydice. After she was finally defeated by Cassander, his armies refused to execute her, and he finally had to summon family members of those Olympias had previously killed to end her life. According to the 1st century AD biographer, Plutarch, she was a devout member of the orgiastic snake-worshiping cult of Dionysus, and he suggests that she slept with snakes in her bed.”

>> Olympias was known to be totally ruthless and a wicked woman. He was also rumored to practice witchcraft. She had tremendous influence on Alexander to a point that some suspect her to be in an incestuous relationship with her son.

According to the Roman C.N.N. she was part of an orgiastic cult. What is that? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgia

“In ancient Greek religion, an orgion (ὄργιον, more commonly in the plural orgia) was an ecstatic form of worship characteristic of some mystery cults. The orgion is in particular a cult ceremony of Dionysos (or Zagreus), celebrated widely in Arcadia, featuring "unrestrained" masked dances by torchlight and animal sacrifice by means of random slashing that evoked the god's own rending and suffering at the hands of the Titans. The orgia that explained the role of the Titans in Dionysos's dismemberment were said to have been composed by Onomacritus. Greek art and literature, as well as some patristic texts, indicate that the orgia involved snake handling.

Summary

Orgia may have been earlier manifestations of cult than the formal mysteries, as suggested by the violently ecstatic rites described in myth as celebrated by Attis in honor of Cybele and reflected in the willing self-castration of her priests the Galli in the historical period. The orgia of both Dionysian worship and the cult of Cybele aim at breaking down barriers between the celebrants and the divinity through a state of mystic exaltation:

Dionysian orgy allowed the Bacchant to emerge from the 'ego' to be united with the god in the ecstatic exaltation of omophagia, dancing and wine. … This kind of bodily mysticism and psychosomatic liberation had only temporary effects each time—the period of the ekstasis.”

>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omophagia

“Omophagia, or omophagy (from Greek ωμός "raw") is the eating of raw flesh. The term is of importance in the context of the cult worship of Dionysus.

[…]”

>> I wonder which type of RAW FLESH they are talking about here? Why not say MEAT but use instead the word FLESH? Cybele is another aspect of the Evil Lady just like Inanna/Artemis/Lilith etc. Do you remember what we read about the priest of Inanna whom used to dress like women, whom were castrated and whom used to perform crazy, frenetic dances?

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9aa99f  No.14921675

>>14921657

(Please read from the start)

“Initiates of the Orphic and Bacchic orgia practiced distinctive burial customs (see Totenpass) expressive of their beliefs in an afterlife; for instance, it was forbidden for the dead to wear wool.

Members of a group devoted to performing orgia are called orgeônes, whose activities were regulated by law. The cult of the Thracian goddess Bendis was organized at Athens by her orgeônes as early as the Archaic period.

The participation of women in orgia, which in some manifestations was exclusive to women, sometimes led to prurient speculation and attempts to suppress the rites. In 186 BC, the Roman senate tried to ban Dionysian religion as subversive both morally and politically.

Isidore of Seville says that the Latin equivalent of orgia was caerimoniae (English "ceremonies"), the arcane rites of ancient Roman religion preserved by the various colleges of priests.”

>> Well, it’s pretty clear what religion Olympias was practicing. Do you see now that the burning of Persepolis by Alexander was a Satanic ritual = a Bacchanalia in which human sacrifice was most probably performed and cannibalism occurred.

Also when Plutarch means Olympias used to sleep with snakes in her bed, this is most probably a way of saying she used to sleep with men whom were descendants of the Serpent Sebetti clan.

“Origin

Olympias was the eldest daughter of Neoptolemus I, king of the Molossians, an ancient Greek tribe in Epirus, and sister of Alexander I. Her family belonged to the Aeacidae, a well-respected family of Epirus, which claimed descent from Neoptolemus, son of Achilles. Apparently, she was originally named Polyxena, as Plutarch mentions in his work Moralia, and changed her name to Myrtale prior to her marriage to Philip II of Macedon as part of her initiation into an unknown mystery cult.”

>> LoL! “Initiation into an unknown mystery cult” = wanna have guess what this is pointing to? See how biased Plutarch is: he is careful not to mention what this cult is and sugar coats it with “unknown mystery”. Also what are the odds of this “ancient Greek tribe” Olympias belonged to was among those whom migrated from the Hittites Empire towards the West and settled in Epirus? He kept it vague on purpose in order to hide the ugly truth. This is manipulation of information from him and he does his best to protect the ones he works for and slanders the ones he is ordered to. It’s why I call him the Roman C.N.N. Plutarch was serving a very specific agenda using propaganda and slander to the enemies of the Bloodlines while putting them in a good light for the public.

“The name Olympias was the third of four names by which she was known. She probably took it as a recognition of Philip's victory in the Olympic Games of 356 BC, the news of which coincided with Alexander's birth (Plut. Alexander 3.8). She was finally named Stratonice, which was probably an epithet attached to Olympias following her victory over Eurydice in 317 BC.”

>> Many names for the wicked mother of Alexander just like the Evil Lady had many names, titles and epithets.

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9aa99f  No.14921684

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>>14921675

(Please read from the start)

“Queen of Macedonia

When Neoptolemus I died in 360 BC, his brother Arymbas succeeded him on the Molossian throne. In 358 BC, Arymbas made a treaty with the new king of Macedonia, Philip II, and the Molossians became allies of the Macedonians. The alliance was cemented with a diplomatic marriage between Arymbas' niece, Olympias, and Philip in 357 BC. It made Olympias the queen consort of Macedonia, and Philip the king. Philip had allegedly fallen in love with Olympias when both were initiated into the mysteries of Cabeiri at the Sanctuary of the Great Gods, on the island of Samothrace, though their marriage was largely political in nature.”

>> So they married according to Satanic rites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabeiri

“In Greek mythology, the Cabeiri or Cabiri /kəˈbaɪriː/ (Ancient Greek: Κάβειροι, Kábeiroi), also transliterated Kabeiri or Kabiri, were a group of enigmatic chthonic deities. They were worshiped in a mystery cult closely associated with that of Hephaestus, centered in the north Aegean islands of Lemnos and possibly Samothrace—at the Samothrace temple complex—and at Thebes. In their distant origins the Cabeiri and the Samothracian gods may include pre-Greek elements, or other non-Greek elements, such as Thracian, Tyrrhenian, Pelasgian, Phrygian or Hittite. The Lemnian cult was always local to Lemnos, but the Samothracian mystery cult spread rapidly throughout the Greek world during the Hellenistic period, eventually initiating Romans.

[…]”

>> Mystery cult, “Thracian, Tyrrhenian, Pelasgian, Phrygian or Hittite” = where is the place of origin of all of these civilizations? The last notable: “initiating Romans”.

“One year later, in 356 BC, Philip's race horse won in the Olympic Games; for this victory, his wife, who was known then as Myrtale, received the name Olympias. In the summer of the same year, Olympias gave birth to her first child, Alexander. In ancient Greece people believed that the birth of a great man was accompanied by portents. As Plutarch describes, the night before the consummation of their marriage, Olympias dreamed that a thunderbolt fell upon her womb and a great fire was kindled, its flames dispersed all about and then were extinguished. After the marriage Philip dreamed that he put a seal upon his wife's womb, the device of which was the figure of a lion. Aristander's interpretation was that Olympias was pregnant of a son whose nature would be bold and lion-like. Philip and Olympias also had a daughter, Cleopatra, who later married her uncle, Alexander I of Epirus, to further diplomatic ties between Macedonia and Epirus.”

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9aa99f  No.14921707

>>14921684

(Please read from the start)

>> No mention here of Zeus taking the form of a snake and fathering Alexander. This is carefully omitted again by Wikipedia. Lion is the symbol of kingship, don’t forget that. And here you go anons, incest in plain sight = Alexander I of Epirus married his own niece. This was done to keep the bloodline pure = this is pointing (with the other information that we got) that the royal family of Epirus was most probably one of the 13 primary Bloodline families. Do you think Olympias named her son after her brother? And if uncle and niece practiced incest, do you think brother and sister practiced incest too? As in Alexander I of Epirus and Olympias practiced incest, it’s possible, right? And what about Olympias practicing incest with her own son Alexander as it’s rumored, is that possible then? If the practice existed in the royal family of Epirus, why couldn’t it exist in Macedonia as well where Olympias might have brought it along with her there?

“According to primary sources, their marriage was very stormy due to Philip's volatility and Olympias' ambition and alleged jealousy, which led to their growing estrangement. Things got more tumultuous in 337 BC when Philip married a noble Macedonian woman, Cleopatra, the niece of Attalus, who was given the name Eurydice by Philip. At a gathering after the marriage, Philip failed to defend Alexander's claim to the Macedonian throne when Attalus threatened his legitimacy, causing great tensions between Philip, Olympias, and Alexander. Olympias went into voluntary exile in Epirus along with Alexander, staying at the Molossian court of her brother Alexander I, who was the king at the time.”

>> Wanna bet Alexander was initiated to the “cult” there even more than when he was in Macedonia?

“In 336 BC, Philip cemented his ties to Alexander I of Epirus by offering him the hand of his and Olympias' daughter Cleopatra in marriage, a fact that led Olympias to further isolation as she could no longer count on her brother's support. However, Philip was murdered by Pausanias, a member of Philip's somatophylakes, his personal bodyguard, while attending the wedding, and Olympias, who returned to Macedonia, was suspected of having countenanced his assassination.”

>> She is a great wife to have and the death of Philip is a good way to secure the throne for her son. This woman was simply evil.

“Alexander’s reign and the Wars of the Diadochi

After the death of Philip II, which Olympias was believed to have either ordered or been an accessory to according to some ancient historical accounts, Olympias was allegedly also involved in overseeing the execution of Eurydice and her child in order to secure Alexander's position as the rightful king of Macedonia. During Alexander's campaigns, she regularly corresponded with him and may have confirmed her son's claim in Egypt that his father was not Philip but Zeus. The relationship between Olympias and Alexander was cordial, but her son tried to keep her away from politics. However, she wielded great influence in Macedonia and caused troubles to Antipater, the regent of the kingdom. In 330 BC, she returned to Epirus and served as a regent to her cousin Aeacides in the Epirote state, as her brother Alexander I had died during a campaign in southern Italy.”

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9aa99f  No.14921726

File: 5bbc07ef4022760⋯.png (390.09 KB, 463x461, 463:461, Medalion_of_Olympias_rever….png)

File: 666aa5cede576b8⋯.jpg (608.7 KB, 1600x1236, 400:309, candace_fujii_quinotaur.jpg)

>>14921707

(Please read from the start)

“After Alexander the Great's death in Babylon in 323 BC, his wife Roxana gave birth to their son named Alexander IV. Alexander IV and with his uncle Philip III Arrhidaeus, the half brother of Alexander the Great who may have been disabled, were subject to the regency of Perdiccas, who tried to strengthen his position through a marriage with Antipater's daughter Nicaea. At the same time, Olympias offered Perdiccas the hand of her and Philip's daughter, Cleopatra. Perdiccas chose Cleopatra, which angered Antipater, who allied himself with several other Diadochi, deposed Perdiccas, and was declared regent, only to die within the year.

Polyperchon succeeded Antipater in 319 BC as regent, but Antipater's son Cassander established Philip II's son Philip III (Arrhidaeus) as king and forced Polyperchon out of Macedonia. He fled to Epirus, taking Roxana and her son Alexander IV with him, who had previously been left in the care of Olympias. At the beginning, Olympias had not been involved in this conflict, but she soon realized that in the case of Cassander's rule, her grandson would lose the crown, so she allied with Polyperchon in 317 BC. The Macedonian soldiers supported her return and the united armies of Polyperchon and Olympias, with the house of Aeacides, invaded Macedonia to drive Cassander out from power.

After winning in battle by convincing the army of Adea Eurydice, the wife of Philip III, to side with her own, Olympias captured and executed the two in October 317 BC. She also captured Cassander's brother and a hundred of his partisans. Cassander soon blockaded and besieged Olympias in Pydna and one of the terms of the capitulation had been that Olympias's life would be saved, but Cassander had decided to execute her, sparing only temporarily the lives of Roxana and Alexander IV (they were executed a few years later in 309 BC). When the fortress of Pydna fell, Cassander ordered Olympias killed, but the soldiers refused to harm the mother of Alexander the Great. In the end, the families of her many victims stoned her to death with the approval of Cassander, who is also said to have denied to her body the rites of burial.”

>> That’s one nasty death for a nasty woman.

“Iconography

A medal bearing the name "Olympias" was found in 1902 at Abu Qir, Egypt that dates back to AD 225-250, and belongs to the Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki. The reverse shows a Nereid mounted on a fantastic sea creature. It had been suggested that the Olympias depicted on the medal was Queen Olympias, but this theory has been challenged. The name ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΟΣ is thought to refer to the Olympiads instead.

[…]”

>> The iconography of the obverse side of the medal is on page 1 540. With this page I’m putting a picture of the reverse side. Who knows this might be or might not be Olympias on this medal. What is for certain, she is connect to the Bloodlines and she practiced (((their))) cult, the one we call now Satanism. And we know the Quinotaur is linked directly to the Merovingian Bloodline and to Satanism = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinotaur

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1fc1a0  No.14929288

File: 9202aba6fba5699⋯.jpg (64.31 KB, 512x290, 256:145, Alexander_movie_poster.jpg)

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>>14921726

(Please read from the start)

Retrurning to where we left off on page 1 519 before the Alexander detour.

Anons now understand whom Alexander the Great really was. And I hope NOW anons have a very good idea what was the TYPE of “relationship” was between the Greeks and the Phoenicians = a hostile one, mostly. Were all the Phoenician City-States hostile towards the Greeks? No, some even welcomed them…remember that each City-State had a king and had autonomy. So each ruler made his own decisions and joined this or that side. But in general, the Phoenicians always chose the opposite side of the Greeks, as proven in the many examples I’ve given the reader.Which is actually a pattern when you take a general look at it. So the real question is why: why were the Greeks and the Phoenicians always on opposite sides of each other?

I thought for a long time it’s because of some economic reason, like trade dominance or something like that. But I was wrong. I’m suspecting it goes much much deeper. I am suspecting this is ideological.

Since now anons understand what it’s about between the Greeks and the Phoenicians/Carthaginians, when you read all of these Hellenic and Hellenistic writers you should keep in mind they are the rivals and enemies of the Phoenicians and all they say is terribly biased. This is why they accused the Phoenicians of sacrificing children while not taking into account what they were doing themselves. It’s like that saying about the camel which cannot see its own hunched back but sees only the hunched back of the other camels.

So here is our first witness against the Phoenicians and this witness has a major conflict of interest in this matter. This witness = the Greeks, also holds a grudge and can be considered as a rival and an enemy of the Phoenicians. This witness not even an eye witness as in the Greek writers/scholars never saw themselves if child sacrifice was practiced by the Phoenicians. It’s just stories they wrote to destroy the public image and reputation of the Phoenicians out of spite and out of greed.

While at the same time, this witness = the Greeks hid that they were themselves practicing child sacrifice. Of course not mentioning during the Hellenistic times that their beloved, deified king = Alexander the Great (whom doesn’t look so great to me anymore) was a pedophile, a bi-sexual, a mass murderer, a Satanist, took part of Bacchanalias, suspected of incest with his mother and was most probably a pedovore. There are a lot of indications pointing he was a direct descendant of the Evil Couple.

And yet, none of this is mentioned by any of the Greek writers and all of his bad deeds are intentionally omitted. The texts are carefully crafted to sugar coat the slightest little flaw he might have, to put him under a good light and hide his ugly side. Don’t forget Hollywood also made many movies about Alexander. I’m putting some pictures of the latest one with this page.

Do you remember Pyrrhus of Epirus from page 1 516? Yup, the one whom was at war with the Carthaginians? You think this is all a coincidence? Do you think it’s a coincidence we have 2 kings with obvious ties to the Bloodlines and Satanism = both connected to Epirus; fighting one the Carthaginians in West Med Sea; while the other was fighting the Phoenicians in East Med Sea? Think again. None of this is coincidental.

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1fc1a0  No.14929295

>>14929288

(Please read from the start)

My mind is already made about the Greek’s “testimony” and accusations about the Phoenicians practicing human sacrifice = they lied and used slander to dirty the public image of the Phoenicians. History is written by the winner after all. Anons should research, read a lot and make up their own minds, mostly if they are not convinced by this compressed version I’m presenting to you. Do your own research and put under the microscope whom the first witness against the Phoenicians is.

Let’s continue where I left off with the page about Carthage and from here on we are going to bring to the witness stand and cross examine the Romans, as I just did with the Greeks.

“Punic Wars (264–146 BC)

First Punic War (264–241 BC)

When Agathocles of Syracuse died in 288 BC, a large company of Italian mercenaries previously in his service found themselves suddenly unemployed. Naming themselves Mamertines ("Sons of Mars"), they seized the city of Messana and became a law unto themselves, terrorizing the surrounding countryside.

The Mamertines became a growing threat to Carthage and Syracuse alike. In 265 BC, Hiero II of Syracuse, former general of Pyrrhus, took action against them. Faced with a vastly superior force, the Mamertines divided into two factions, one advocating surrender to Carthage, the other preferring to seek aid from Rome. While the Roman Senate debated the best course of action, the Carthaginians eagerly agreed to send a garrison to Messana. Carthaginian forces were admitted to the city, and a Carthaginian fleet sailed into the Messanan harbor. However, soon afterwards they began negotiating with Hiero. Alarmed, the Mamertines sent another embassy to Rome asking them to expel the Carthaginians.

Hiero's intervention placed Carthage's military forces directly across the Strait of Messina, the narrow channel of water that separated Sicily from Italy. Moreover, the presence of the Carthaginian fleet gave them effective control over this strategically important bottleneck and demonstrated a clear and present danger to nearby Rome and her interests. As a result, the Roman Assembly, although reluctant to ally with a band of mercenaries, sent an expeditionary force to return control of Messana to the Mamertines.

The subsequent Roman attack on Carthaginian forces at Messana triggered the first of the Punic Wars. Over the course of the next century, these three major conflicts between Rome and Carthage would determine the course of Western civilization. The wars included a dramatic Carthaginian invasion led by Hannibal, which nearly brought an end to Rome.”

>> Sometimes I wonder how things would be like, how our lives would be like, if the Carthaginians won the war and Rome was truly destroyed back then.

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30db33  No.14936222

>>14929295

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“During the First Punic Wars, the Romans under the command of Marcus Atilius Regulus managed to land in Africa, though were ultimately repelled by the Carthaginians. Notwithstanding the decisive defense of its homeland, as well as some initial naval victories, Carthage suffered a succession of losses that forced it to sue for peace. Shortly thereafter, Carthage also faced a major mercenary revolt that dramatically changed its internal political landscape, bringing the influential Barcid family to prominence. The war also impacted Carthage's international standing, as Rome used the events of the war to back its claim over Sardinia and Corsica, which it promptly seized.”

>> Do you think some invisible hands were behind the mercenary revolt in Carthage? You know that mercenaries work for those whom pay them the most? As in their loyalty goes to the deepest pockets. I also wonder whom was really backing the Barcid family and whom moved the pawns behind the scenes to place them in power. It’s amazing how “bad luck” always seems to follow the Carthaginians!

“Mercenary War (241-238 BC)

The Mercenary War, also known as the Truceless War, was a mutiny by troops that were employed by Carthage at the end of the First Punic War (264–241 BC), supported by uprisings of African settlements revolting against Carthaginian control. It lasted from 241 to late 238 or early 237 BC and ended with Carthage suppressing both the mutiny and the revolt.”

>> Again: Whom was behind this? Whom was really behind this? Whom was pulling the strings and moving the chess pieces?

“Second Punic War (218–201 BC)

Lingering mutual animosity and renewed tensions along their borderlands led to the Second Punic War (218-201 BC), which involved factions from across the western and eastern Mediterranean. The war is marked by Hannibal's surprising overland journey to Rome, particularly his costly and strategically bold crossing of the Alps. His entrance into northern Italy was followed by his reinforcement by Gaulish allies and crushing victories over Roman armies in the Battle of the Trebia and the giant ambush at Trasimene. Against his skill on the battlefield the Romans employed the Fabian strategy, which resorted to skirmishes in lieu of direct engagement, with the aim delaying and gradually weakening his forces. While effective, this approach was politically unpopular, as it ran contrary to traditional military strategy. The Romans thus resorted to another major field battle at Cannae, but despite their superior numbers, suffered a crushing defeat, suffering, it is said, 60000 casualties.”

>> Whom are these factions from the eastern Mediterranean mentioned in the first sentence? It’s very vague, isn’t it?

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30db33  No.14936247

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>>14936222

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The Great Hannibal of Carthage, he was even praised for his military brilliance by his enemies; and his courage by the way. But Hollywood worked their magic as usual and used their usual trick to brainwash you, the public. What am I talking about? I’m talking about the movie called the Silence of the Lambs. There is a crazy transgender in the movie. The leading detective role is female name Clarice = remember Clary from the movie Mortal Instruments: City of Bones (starting page 1 123)? Noticed the Butterfly? Which “lambs” are they talking about here?

Hannibal has always been remembered in History as a great strategist and a great general. His name is a rare name to be used. And yet, in this movie (((they))) used his name for the main protagonist which is a horrible, twisted, serial killer and a cannibal. The Great moto of the movie was: Hannibal the Cannibal. It doesn’t need a genius to figure out this was done on purpose to plant this seed in your minds = you the public; so that each time you hear the name Hannibal, you won’t remember the brilliant Carthaginian general, but you will remember a cannibal from a movie.You don’t believe me that you are programed to think that way? Just make a test on social media. Just ask the question: when you hear the name Hannibal, what’s the first think that comes to your mind? This should be a test. Also don’t forget how big of a hit this movie was. When you take a look at all the movies I’ve given you as examples of, don’t you notice that the biggest blockbusters are the movies which project either (((them))) or (((their))) sordid history = the founding evil couple + (((their))) ideology?

“Consequently, many Roman allies went over to Carthage, prolonging the war in Italy for over a decade, during which more Roman armies were nearly consistently destroyed on the battlefield. Despite these setbacks, the Romans had the manpower to absorb such losses and replenish their ranks. Along with their superior capability in siegecraft, they were able to recapture all the major cities that had joined the enemy, as well as defeat a Carthaginian attempt to reinforce Hannibal at the Battle of the Metaurus. Meanwhile, in Iberia, which served as the main source of manpower for the Carthaginian army, a second Roman expedition under Scipio Africanus took New Carthage and ended Carthaginian rule over the peninsula in the Battle of Ilipa.”

>> Do you know how much money it takes to pay the troupes? To be able to raise troupes this fast over and over must mean both sides had deep pockets. And do you know how costly and hard it is to construct quickly those siege weapons? We already know that Carthage was wealthy but whom is backing up financially the Romans? Some influential and deep pockets maybe? Like those whom had enough influence to build many shrines for Isis inside of Rome, despite the Emperors not liking this at all. We already read this when taking a look at Isis. Are we seeing the first Rothschild like “investors” financing the Romans? I believe so, because when you study the Roman economy and the coinage and you compare it with what is taking place in the States today, starting with the creation of the Federal Reserve, then you will find a lot of common points, even big similarities between them.

“The final showdown was the Battle of Zama, which took place in the Carthaginian heartland of Tunisia. After trouncing Carthaginian forces at the battles of Utica and the Great Plains, Scipio Africanus forced Hannibal to abandon his increasingly stalled campaign in Italy. Despite the latter's superior numbers and innovative tactics, the Carthaginians suffered a crushing and decisive defeat. After years of costly fighting that brought them to the verge of destruction, the Romans imposed harsh and retributive peace conditions on Carthage. In addition to a large financial indemnity, the Carthaginians were stripped of their once-proud navy and reduced only to their North African territory. In effect, Carthage became a Roman client state.”

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30db33  No.14936257

>>14936247

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>> In general, when a war is over in old times, the winner takes tribute or loot the place = kingdom he conquered. Don’t you find it odd the Romans asked for financial indemnity? And didn’t ask for a tribute? It wasn’t even mentioned if they looted the Carthaginian colonies. This financial indemnity sounds like a loan/debt payment to me. What did the Jews asked of Germany after WWII was over because of the Holocaust? Same group of persons, same ideology, same methods, no matter what the age and time are. The Jews will NEVER CHANGE or REPENT no matter how much time passes. We 3 already know this because it’s in the doctrine, in the culture, in the mentality and mostly, it’s their spiritual way of existing = it’s whom they are. A Scorpion will always remain a scorpion and a scorpion does what a scorpion does. For a scorpion to change he gotta stop being a scorpion and turn into something else; from the inside. It’s an almost impossible task to accomplish and very few would take that journey of spiritual transformation.

“Third Punic War (149–146 BC)

The third and final Punic War began in 149 BC, largely due to the efforts of hawkish Roman senators, led by Cato the Elder, to finish Carthage off once and for all. Cato was known for finishing nearly every speech in the Senate, regardless of the subject, with the phrase ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam—"Moreover, I am of the opinion that Carthage ought to be destroyed". In particular, the growing Roman Republic sought the famously rich agricultural lands of Carthage and its African territories, which had been known to the Romans following their invasion in the previous Punic War. Carthage's border war with Rome's ally Numidia, though initiated by the latter, nonetheless provided the pretext for Rome to declare war.”

>> Now here, how the war between Carthage and Numidia started is exactly one of (((their))) famous tactics = to get a third party involved and use that as a pretext to declare war. Ask yourselves: why on earth some Roman senators were so persistent in their request to “destroy” Carthage? Whom was behind them? There is also something that is a bit hard for me to understand: if Carthage was already a client state, why want to destroy it? When your client state was attack, doesn’t it mean you are attacked as well? So why didn’t the Roman attack Numidia and sided with their client state? Or did they still hold a big grudge towards the Carthaginians? What was the real reason behind the request of destroying Carthage? Whom was really requesting the destruction of Carthage? Whom was controlling the politics in the Roman senate?

“The Third Punic War was a much smaller and shorter engagement than its predecessors, primarily consisting of a single main action, the Battle of Carthage. However, despite their significantly reduced size, military, and wealth, the Carthaginians managed to mount a surprisingly strong initial defense. The Roman invasion was soon stalled by defeats at Lake Tunis, Nepheris, and Hippagreta; even the truncated Carthaginian navy managed to inflict severe losses on a Roman fleet through the use of fire ships. Carthage itself managed to resist the Roman siege for three years, until Scipio Aemilianus—the adopted grandson of Scipio Africanus—was appointed consul and took command of the assault.

Notwithstanding its impressive resistance, Carthage's defeat was ultimately a foregone conclusion, given the far larger size and strength of the Roman Republic. Though it was the smallest of the Punic Wars, the third war was to be the most decisive: The complete destruction of the city of Carthage, the annexation of all remaining Carthaginian territory by Rome, and the death or enslavement of tens of thousands of Carthaginians. The war ended Carthage's independent existence, and consequently eliminated the last Phoenician political power.”

>> So here is why (((they))) thought the destruction of Carthage:

1 – Eliminating the last Phoenician political power.

2 – Death or enslavement of tens of thousands of Carthaginians.

If the Phoenicians /Carthaginians were the ancestors of current day Bloodlines as some anons suggest, then why would the Romans (whom are run/controled by the Bloodlines of then) enslave and execute so many Carthaginians? This can be put in the same category as the Evil Lady attacking the Phoenician City-States. As well as Alexander killing and enslaving the Tyrians.You destroy your enemy, not your ally nor your own subjects. Think long and hard about all of this anons.

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d99383  No.14943198

>>14936257

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“Aftermath

[…]

In 122 BC, Gaius Gracchus, a populist Roman senator, founded the short-lived colony of Colonia Iunonia, after the Latin name for the Punic goddess Tanit, Iuno Caelestis. Located near the site of Carthage, its purpose was to provide arable land for impoverished farmers, but it was soon abolished by the Roman Senate to undermine Gracchus' power.”

>> Why would a Roman senator pick the name of a Punic goddess like Tanit to name his new founded colony? I thought Romans and Carthaginians were enemies.

“Nearly a century after the fall of Carthage, a new "Roman Carthage" was built on the same site by Julius Caesar between 49 and 44 BC. It soon became the center of the province of Africa, which was a major breadbasket of the Roman Empire and one of its wealthiest provinces. By the first century, Carthago had grown to be the second-largest city in the western Roman Empire, with a peak population of 500,000.

Punic language, identity, and culture persisted in Rome for several centuries. Two Roman emperors in the third century, Septimius Severus and his son and successor Caracalla, were of Punic descent. In the fourth century, Augustine of Hippo, himself of Berber heritage, noted that Punic was still spoken in the region by people who identified as Kn'nm, or "Chanani", as the Carthaginians had called themselves. Settlements across North Africa, Sardinia, and Sicily continued to speak and write Punic, as evidenced by inscriptions on temples, tombs, public monuments, and artwork dating well after the Roman conquest. Punic names were still used until at least the fourth century, even by prominent denizens of Roman Africa, and some local officials in formerly Punic territories used the title.”

>> The influence of many conquered territories can be easily detected in the upper echelons of the Roman Empire. And the Punics were not the only culture/civilization out there to have their descendants as Roman Emperors.

“Some Punic ideas and innovations survived Roman conquest and even became mainstream in Roman culture. Mago's manual on farming and estate management was among the few Carthaginian texts to be spared from destruction, and was even translated into Greek and Latin by order of the Senate. Latin vernacular had several references to Punic culture, including mala Punica ("Punic Apples") for pomegranates; pavimentum Punicum to describe the use of patterned terracotta pieces in mosaics; and plostellum Punicum for the threshing board, which had been introduced to the Romans by Carthage. Reflecting the enduring hostility towards Carthage, the phrase Pūnica fidēs, or "Punic faith", was commonly used to describe acts of dishonesty, perfidy, and treachery.”

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d99383  No.14943203

>>14943198

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>> See what the Romans did with what they thought were practical and useful books? I keep on wondering if the rest of the Punic records/archive was not taken to Rome and most of it was kept hidden/secret by the Bloodlines of back then. And just look at how they kept on describing the Punic faith as dishonesty, perfidy and treachery. It’s very clear for those whom like to research that the Bloodlines of back then were the ones running the show in the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire. So why would the Bloodlines run empire qualify the Punic faith in this way. I keep on wondering what it could really be. Was it just to slander them because the Carthaginians were their enemies at some point? Were the Romans projecting their faith onto the Punic one? Or is it something more. Could it be the religion or faith of the Phoenicians/Carthaginians is something that the Bloodlines despise and hate a lot? Could it be all the above combined? Think about it anons. This is not the first time we see sections of the Evil Clan (like the one in M.E. or in Greece) hating the Phoenicians and use slander against them.

This was our second witness in the court against the Phoenicians/Punics = it’s their mortal enemy whom seek to destroy them, kill as many as they could, enslave as many as they could and burn down the city. It’s more than obvious the Romans were run by the Bloodlines, just like it was the case with the Greeks. So do tell me dear reader, are the Greeks and now the Romans are reliable witnesses against the Phoenicians, with knowing both were their mortal enemy?

“[…]

Language

Carthaginians spoke a variety of Phoenician called Punic, a Semitic language originating in their ancestral homeland of Phoenicia (present-day Lebanon).

Like its parent language, Punic was written from right to left, consisted of 22 consonants without vowels, and is known mostly through inscriptions. During classical antiquity, Punic was spoken throughout Carthage's territories and spheres of influence in the western Mediterranean, namely northwest Africa and several Mediterranean islands. Although the Carthaginians maintained ties and cultural affinity with their Phoenician homeland, their Punic dialect gradually became influenced by various Berber languages spoken in and around Carthage by the ancient Libyans. Following the fall of Carthage, a "Neo-Punic" dialect emerged that diverged from Punic in terms of spelling conventions and the use of non-Semitic names, mostly of Libyco-Berber origin.

Notwithstanding the destruction of Carthage and assimilation of its people into the Roman Republic, Punic appears to have persisted for centuries in the former Carthaginian homeland. This is best attested by Augustine of Hippo, himself of Berber descent, who spoke and understood Punic and served as the "primary source on the survival of [late] Punic". He claims the language was still spoken in his region of North Africa in the fifth century, and that there were still people who self identified as chanani (Canaanite: Carthaginian). Contemporaneous funerary texts found in Christian catacombs in Sirte, Libya bear inscriptions in Ancient Greek, Latin, and Punic, suggesting a fusion of the cultures under Roman rule.

There is evidence that Punic was still spoken and written by commoners in Sardinia at least 400 years after the Roman conquest. In addition to Augustine of Hippo, Punic was known by some literate North Africans until the second or third centuries (albeit written in Roman and Greek script) and remained spoken among peasants at least until the end of the fourth century.”

>> See what I mean when I say you cannot rely on Hebrew to translate Punic…even Phoenician language. And don’t go thinking the language remained as it was from the fall of Carthage till the third century A.D. It mutated at least twice.

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d99383  No.14943240

>>14943203

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“Religion

The Carthaginians worshiped numerous gods and goddesses, each presiding over a particular theme or aspect of nature. They practiced the Phoenician religion, a polytheist belief system derived from ancient Semitic religions of the Levant. Although most major deities were brought from the Phoenician homeland, Carthage gradually developed unique customs, divinities, and styles of worship that became central to its identity.”

>> Wait! What?! Did (((they))) keep on telling us via Main Stream History, Academics, Church that the Carthaginian religion was the same as the one of the Phoenicians? As in they worshiped the same deities and practiced the same rituals. Including child sacrifice – exactly as the Phoenicians did. And yet, here, (((they))) are letting us know that the Punic religion “gradually developed unique customs, divinities and styles of worship”. Doesn’t this mean a mutation took place?

“Presiding over the Carthaginian pantheon was the supreme divine couple, Baal Ḥammon and Tanit. Baal Hammon had been the most prominent aspect of the chief Phoenician god Baal, but after Carthage's independence became the city's patron god and chief deity; he was also responsible for the fertility of crops. His consort Tanit, known as the "Face of Baal", was the goddess of war, a virginal mother goddess and nurse, and a symbol of fertility. Although a minor figure in Phoenicia, she was venerated as a patroness and protector of Carthage, and was also known by the title rabat, the female form of rab (chief); while usually coupled with Baal, she was always mentioned first. The symbol of Tanit, a stylized female form with outstretched arms, appears frequently in tombs, mosaics, religious stelae, and various household items like figurines and pottery vessels. The ubiquity of her symbol, and the fact that she is the only Carthaginian deity with an icon, strongly suggests she was Carthage's paramount deity, at least in later centuries. In the Third Punic War, the Romans identified her as Carthage's protector.”

>> Here, it’s obvious from reading sentence 1 and 2 that there is confusion about Baal. In the first sentence, Baal is used as an honorific to say Lord Hammon, but they think it’s a name. In the second sentence Baal is also an honorific pointing to a special someone. I said before, there are 4 different Baals so here, it’s poiningt to one of the 4 meaning. I will be explaining this later on when I reach it.

From the description given about Tanit, it looks like she is a mutated form from the Evil Lady. Don’t forget, the Evil Lady was also the mother of demons.

To understand what this is about anons gotta go read about Baal Hammon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_Hammon

You will notice that he has the characteristics of both the King of kings and the Evil One, inclined more towards the end to the Evil One. So how do I explain this? It’s obvious the younger generations mixed merged the characteristics of the Evil One with those of the King of kings. It’s like 2 people became one.

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37407b  No.14950162

>>14943240

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So from the looks of it, we have the Evil Couple whom was worshiped in Carthage. But this doesn’t necessarily meaning children sacrifice was practiced in Carthage. Tanit’s cult was barely present in mother land Phoenicia. The Cult of Astarte got in there at a much later date and it got in there slowly. In other words the cult of the Evil Couple, mostly the cult of the Evil Lady was not original to Phoenician, not native. By the time it reached there, it mutated and changed into many local forms where it merged with local deities, along the centuries. It’s this mutated form which migrated to Carthage and there, it merged with local culture and mutated once more. This happens for both Tanit and Baal Hammon.

To solve this we gotta understand how the mutation happened and what happened when the merger took place. Then we gotta understand how the second mutation happened when this cult landed in Carthage and merged with local cult. To say the Tophet is enough evidence to support Baal Hammon cult was a Satanist cult, practicing child sacrifice = this is not correct. The Tophet is actually a child necropolis = burial. It’s a fact, regardless child sacrifice took place there or not. In order to determine if child sacrifice took place there or not, we gotta examine the evidence. The existence of having a Tophet itself = a burial, is NOT evidence. The evidence is what lays INSIDE the Tophet. That’s a huge difference there.

I’m not defending the cult of the Evil Couple that used to take place apparently in Carthage. I’m saying there is something we don’t know about it and mostly, we don’t know what this cult was about since it mutated at least 2 times. It’s clear as mud to me, this is why I don’t want to lean to this or that side and hastily say children sacrifice took place there. The presence of the cult should match the evidence from the Tophet if child sacrifice took place there.

“Other Carthaginian deities attested in Punic inscriptions were Eshmun, the god of health and healing; Resheph, associated with plague, war, or thunder; Kusor, god of knowledge; and Hawot, goddess of death. Astarte, a goddess connected with fertility, sexuality, and war, seems to have been popular in early times, but became increasingly identified through Tanit. Similarly, Melqart, the patron deity of Tyre, was less prominent in Carthage, though he remained fairly popular. His cult was especially prominent in Punic Sicily, of which he was a protector, and which was subsequently known during Carthaginian rule as "Cape Melqart".As in Tyre, Melqart was subject to an important religious rite of death and rebirth, undertaken either daily or annually by a specialised priest known as an "awakener of the god".”

>> I haven’t looked into this, didn’t have time. But whom are interested can research the deities in Carthage. I see a mixture of both good and bad deities. It’s also obvious from what is written in this paragraph a mutation and change occurred. The cult didn’t stay as it was when it first got into Carthage. Local influence should have merged with the migran’ts cult from Phoenicia and changed the attributes and characteristics of the deities, including the cult.

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37407b  No.14950167

>>14950162

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“Contrary to the frequent charge of impiety by Greek and Roman authors, religion was central to both political and social life in Carthage; the city had as many sacred places as Athens and Rome. Surviving Punic texts indicate a very well organized priesthood class, who were drawn mostly from the elite class and distinguished from most of the population by being clean shaven. As in the Levant, temples were among the wealthiest and most powerful institutions in Carthage, and were deeply integrated into public and political life. Religious rituals served as a source of political unity and legitimacy, and were typically performed in public or in relation to state functions. Temples were also important to the economy, as they supported a large number of specialised personnel to ensure rituals were performed properly. Priests and acolytes performed different functions for a variety of prices and purposes; the costs of various offerings, or molk, were listed in great detail and sometimes bundled into different price categories. Supplicants were even accorded a measure of consumer protection, with temples giving notice that priests would be fined for abusing the pricing structure of offerings.”

>> This “religious industry” is not exclusive to Carthage. This was the case in most of the temples around the Med Sea. Just check out places like Ephesus and others of the sort to understand what I mean.

“The Carthaginians had a high degree of religious syncretism, incorporating deities and practices from the many cultures they interacted with, including Greece, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Italy; conversely, many of its cults and practices spread across the Mediterranean via trade and colonisation. Carthage also had communities of Jews, Greeks, Romans, and Libyans. The Egyptian god Bes was popular for warding off evil spirits, and is featured prominently in Punic mausoleums. Isis, the ancient Egyptian goddess whose cult spread across the Mediterranean, had a temple in Carthage; a well preserved sarcophagus depicts one of her priestesses in Hellenistic style. The Greek goddesses Demeter and Kore became prominent in the late fourth century, following the war with Syracuse, and were worshiped into the second century AD. Their cults attracted priests and priestesses from high ranking Carthaginian families, and the Carthaginians placed enough importance on their veneration to enlist Greek residents to ensure their rituals were conducted properly. Melqart was increasingly identified with his Greek counterpart Heracles, and from at least the sixth century BC was revered by both Greeks and Carthaginians; an inscription in Malta honors him in both Greek and Punic. Melqart became popular enough to serve as a unifying figure among Carthage's disparate allies in the wars against Rome. His awakening rite may have persisted in Numidia as late as the second century AD. In their treaty with Macedon in 215 BC, Carthaginian officials and generals swore an oath to both the Greek and Carthaginian gods.”

>> See what I meant earlier when I said that you cannot judge Baal Hammon and Tanit based on the Tophet. Carthage was a metropolis where loads of communities and groups have migrated to. Along with them, they brought their own cult and religion; which got most probably mixed with the cult of other groups. We simply don’t know with which group the mutation happened and how it happened. So be careful anons. This is not as simple and easy as it seems to be.

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37407b  No.14950191

>>14950167

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Also a big notable is the cocktail of migrants groups we have living in Carthage: Jews, Greeks, Romans, Libyans etc. I bet there were more, much more, and yes, we can feel the influence of Egyptian art in Carthage as well. The priestess they are talking about is the sarcophagus lid I said was how the Evil Lady was wearing her clothes – if I’m not mistaking here. Don’t forget that Isis also wore that corset like clothing. I already mentioned all of this before.

“Cippi and stelae of limestone are characteristic monuments of Punic art and religion, found throughout the western Phoenician world in unbroken continuity, both historically and geographically. Most of them were set up over urns containing cremated human remains, placed within open-air sanctuaries. Such sanctuaries constitute some of the most best preserved and striking relics of Punic civilization.”

>> They are referring here to the Tophet in both description and by using the words “open air sanctuary”. I disagree, I think what we call the Tophet was not a sanctuary but a necropolis where “goodbye” rites used to take place and people made offerings so the soul of the dead child would rest in peace. This is my opinion.

“Little is known about Carthaginian rituals or theology. Aside from Melqart's awakening rite, Punic inscriptions found in Carthage attest to a mayumas festival probably involving the ritual portage of water; the word itself is arguably a Semitic calque on the Greek hydrophoria (ὑδροφόρια). Each text ends with the words, "for the Lady, for Tanit Face-of-Baal, and for the Lord, for Baal of the Amanus, that which so-and-so vowed".Excavations of tombs reveal utensils for food and drink, as well as paintings depicting what appears to be a person's soul approaching a walled city. These findings strongly suggest a belief in life after death.”

>> Do you see the contradiction with what is “supposedly” known about the cult in Carthage anons? Here, they are telling us we know little about the cult, the rites and the theology there. And yet, when a child cemetery is found there with cremated children remains, they quickly told us this is the ritual of passing through fire mentioned in the Bible = as in child sacrifice. So finding a children cemetery made them “jump to conclusion” = rush on how the rituals were taking place in Carthage; but in the same time, we know little about the rituals there. Heavens! Can’t you make up your minds: do you or do you not know about the rituals in Carthage?

The truth is anons, we don’t know. This is why I’m telling you over and over again to be careful about the cult of the Evil couple in Carthage. Maybe the cult existed there, but did the cult include or exclude child sacrifice because we have 2 mutations taking place? I don’t know if I’m explaining things correctly here anons. See, I really doubt the cult, including the ritual stayed the same as it was in Mesopotamia and the Levant. If you want to understand what I have in mind, please go back and re-read Isis and see how things were added and omitted to her cult and her rituals, depending on which group was practicing it. I think we have a similar situation here. Things didn’t stay as they were and some stuff was omitted and some stuff added. But which is which? I don’t know and I’m not going to waste time trying to figure this out because this type of work needs decades of research and I’m not going to solve it in a few pages posted in here.

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37407b  No.14950202

>>14950191

(Please read from the start)

“Human sacrifice

Carthage was accused by both contemporary historians and its adversaries of child sacrifice; Plutarch, Tertullian, Orosius, Philo, and Diodorus Siculus all allege the practice, although Herodotus and Polybius do not. Sceptics contend that if Carthage's critics were aware of such a practice, however limited, they would have been horrified by it and exaggerated its extent due to their polemical treatment of the Carthaginians. According to Charles Picard, Greek and Roman critics objected not to the killing of children but to its religious context: in both ancient Greece and Rome, inconvenient newborns were commonly killed by exposure to the elements. The Hebrew Bible mentions child sacrifice practiced by the Canaanites, ancestors of the Carthaginians, while Greek sources allege that the Phoenicians sacrificed the sons of princes during times of "grave peril".However, archaeological evidence of human sacrifice in the Levant remains sparse.”

>> Charles Picard got a point here. And we just saw whom are witness 1 = The Greeks, and witness 2 = the Romans; both are run by the Bloodline families of the time and both are mortal enemies of the Phoenicians/Carthaginians/Canaanites. If you believe them still, be my guest. I don’t. To top it all, they weren’t even firsthand eye witnesses and when you put them under the microscope you will find that most of their writing is pure fiction, contradicts one another and is nothing but lies and slander.

I usually like to work with Herodotus. Sure, he is not perfect, like he has a tendency to exaggerate with numbers = inflating them most of the time. But he is more accurate on some issues, and less biased than the Roman C.N.N. = Plutarch. As for the archaeological evidence of human sacrifice being practiced in the Levant, specially by the Phoenicians, is not sparse = it simply doesn’t exist.

“Accounts of child sacrifice in Carthage date the practice to the city's founding in about 814 BC. Sacrificing children was apparently distasteful even to Carthaginians, and according to Plutarch they began to seek alternatives to offering up their own children, such as buying children from poor families or raising servant children instead. However, Carthage's priests reportedly demanded youth in times of crisis such as war, drought, or famine. Contrary to Plutarch, Diodorus implies that noble children were preferred; extreme crisis warranted special ceremonies where up to 200 children of the most affluent and powerful families were slain and tossed into the burning pyre.”

>> That must have been one heck of a pyre to be able to contain 200 bodies of children. And the smell of the burned bodies must have been awful. Make your own choice if you want to believe Plutarch or not.

“Modern archaeology in formerly Punic areas has discovered a number of large cemeteries for children and infants, representing a civic and religious institution for worship and sacrifice; these sites are called the tophet by archaeologists, as their Punic name is unknown. These cemeteries may have been used as graves for stillborn infants or children who died very early. Excavations have been interpreted by many scholars as confirming Plutarch's reports of Carthaginian child sacrifice. An estimated 20,000 urns were deposited between 400 and 200 BC in the tophet discovered in the Salammbô neighbourhood of present-day Carthage, with the practice continuing until the second century. The majority of urns in this site, as well as in similar sites in Motya and Tharros, contained the charred bones of infants or fetuses; in rarer instances, the remains of children between the ages of two and four have been found. The bones of animals, particularly lambs, are also common, especially in earlier deposits.”

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097811  No.14958500

>>14950202

(Please read from the start)

>> Please, read and re-read this paragraph very carefully and slowly. They are telling us this is a burial site for sacrificed children which means, it’s a necropolis for sacrificed children. Then they tell you that most of the children were cremated between 400 to 200 B.C. But Carthage was founded apparently in 814 B.C., supposedly. The Carthaginians were accused of child sacrifice from the get-go = from its founding day. So if we believe what is written here, what did the Carthaginians do from 814 (foundation date) till 400 B.C.?And the first infant urn burials appeared around 750 B.C. It seems they didn’t practice child sacrifice for around 350- 400 years, if you follow what is written here, but yet were accused of doing it, from the get go. Shall we say that the number of urns with cremated children remains in them grew from 400 to 200 B.C.? Why is that? And why did the number of urns grow during this specific period? Could it there was a specific demographic change? As in, could it be a certain group migrated there during that time in big numbers? Or a certain group’s demographic numbers grew in the city? It is looking like that anons.

I agree, the cremated remains are indicating this was a cemetery for still-born and or infants whom died not long after birth. And yes, there were some whom were a couple of years old = all in all, the children remains = ALL of them were under the age of 5 years old when they died. This is where I’ve been stuck for a very long time = decades; as we were unable to find the reason behind the deaths = causing the deaths, mostly with such big numbers. We thought of many deceases, maybe even the plague….but it doesn’t fit in at all. Until I recently found the answer, after coming to this board. Thanks to Potus and Flotus, I found out what the illness was and yes I will be talking about it.

Carthage was not the only place where such burial ground was found.

“There is a clear correlation between the frequency of cremation and the well-being of the city: during crises, cremations appear more frequent, albeit for unclear reasons. One explanation is that the Carthaginians sacrificed children in return for divine intervention. However, such crises would naturally lead to increased child mortality, and consequently, more child burials via cremation. Sceptics maintain that the bodies of children found in Carthaginian and Phoenician cemeteries were merely the cremated remains of children who died naturally. Sergio Ribichini has argued that the tophet was "a child necropolis designed to receive the remains of infants who had died prematurely of sickness or other natural causes, and who for this reason were 'offered' to specific deities and buried in a place different from the one reserved for the ordinary dead". Forensic evidence further suggests that most of the infants had died prior to cremation. However, a 2014 study argued that archaeological evidence confirms that the Carthaginians practiced human sacrifice.”

>> It’s very normal to find a correlation between the frequency of cremation and the well-being of the city during a period of crisis. We can find this worldwide and in every age, even during the Medieval times. When there was a war and a siege, it’s very normal to bury the bodies as quick as possible, mostly cremate them fast in order to avoid deceases like cholera or the plague from spreading or showing up within the city walls. So I don’t find this to be an indication of anything mostly that we know Carthage took part of many wars and was besieged.

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097811  No.14958513

>>14958500

(Please read from the start)

Can someone tall me which Phoenician cemetery they are talking about here because we never found it in Motherland Phoenicia; and it seems it’s not in the colonies. Yes, the children cremated died naturally and prematurely but they were not offered even after their death to any deity. This was a children cemetery, not a sacrificial site for children; the difference is huge. And yes, the children died before they were cremated and there were no knife marks on the remains. As for the 2014 study…Whom paid for it? Whom conducted it? And whom was behind it?

“Dexter Hoyos argues that it is impossible to determine a "definitive answer" to the question of child sacrifice. He notes that infant and child mortality were high in ancient times—with perhaps a third of Roman infants dying of natural causes in the first three centuries AD—which not only would explain the frequency of child burials, but would make the regular, large-scale sacrificing of children an existential threat to "communal survival".Hoyos also notes contradictions between the various historical descriptions of the practice, many of which have not been backed by modern archaeology.”

>> Hoyos is spot on, he hit the bull’s eye.

“Society and culture

As with most other aspects of Carthaginian civilization, little is known about its culture and society beyond what can be inferred from foreign accounts and archaeological findings. As a Phoenician people, the Carthaginians had an affinity for trade, seafaring, and exploration; most foreign accounts about their society focus on their commercial and maritime prowess. Unlike the Phoenicians, however, the Carthaginians also became known for their military expertise and sophisticated republican government; their approach to warfare and politics feature heavily in foreign accounts.”

>> Little is known about the Carthaginians, just like little is known about the Phoenicians, and yet, they were slandered by so many unfounded accusations by their enemies.

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097811  No.14958532

>>14958513

(Please read from the start)

“During the peak of its wealth and power in the fourth and third centuries BC, Carthage was among the largest metropolises in antiquity; its free male population alone may have numbered roughly 200,000 in 241 BC, excluding resident foreigners. Strabo estimates a total population of 700,000, a figure that was possibly drawn from Polybius; it is unclear if this number includes all residents or just free citizens. Contemporary scholarship places the peak of its population at 500,000 by 300 BC, which would make Carthage the largest city in the world at the time.”

>> The demographic numbers are important and they are going to play a part in what I will be explaining later on about the HIGH number of child death.

Literature

Aside from some ancient translations of Punic texts into Greek and Latin, as well as inscriptions on monuments and buildings discovered in Northwest Africa, not much remains of Carthaginian literature. When Carthage was sacked in 146 BC, its libraries and texts were either systematically destroyed or, according to Pliny the Elder, given to the "minor kings of Africa".The only noteworthy Punic writing to survive is Mago's voluminous treatise on agriculture, which was preserved and translated by order of the Roman Senate; however, only some excerpts and references in Latin and Greek remain. The late-Roman historian Ammianus claims that Juba II of Numidia read Punici lbri, or "punic books", which may have been Carthaginian in origin. Ammianus also makes reference to Punic books existing even during his lifetime in the fourth century AD, which suggests that some works survived, or at least that Punic remained a literary language. Other Roman and Greek authors reference the existence of Carthaginian literature, most notably Hannibal's writings about his military campaigns.

[…]”

>> What are the odds some if not all of the Carthaginian records are in the Vatican archives? Or in another facility, kept for centuries by the Bloodlines to decipher and study them? IF, I repeat, if these records truly exis,t does it mean they are in the hands of Potus now? My mind is going wild with just the thought of it and what it could mean. Maybe I’m daydreaming, despite my old age. All we can do is wait and hope that maybe one day, we will know the truth about all of the “vanished” records/archives.

As I’ve said before, I’m going to take a look at the burialt next, but I didn’t find it in English, I found it in French. So what I’m going to do is post the paragraphs as they are in the Wikipedia French page, then put just under it the translation in English, followed all by my comments.

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a8de9f  No.14966132

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>>14958532

(Please read from the start)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tophet_de_Carthage

“Le tophet de Carthage, aussi appelé tophet de Salammbô, est une ancienne aire sacrée dédiée aux divinités phéniciennes Tanit et Baal situé dans le quartier carthaginois de Salammbô, en Tunisie, à proximité des ports puniques. Ce tophet, « hybride de sanctuaire et de nécropole »1, regroupe un grand nombre de tombes d'enfants qui, selon les interprétations, auraient été sacrifiés ou inhumés en ce lieu après leur mort prématurée. Le périmètre est rattaché au site archéologique de Carthage classé au patrimoine mondial de l'Unesco. »

“The tophet of Carthage, also called tophet of Salammbô, is an ancient sacred area dedicated to the Phoenician deities Tanit and Baal located in the Carthaginian district of Salammbô, in Tunisia, near the Punic ports. This tophet, “hybrid of sanctuary and necropolis” 1, brings together a large number of graves of children who, according to interpretations, were sacrificed or buried in this place after their untimely death. The perimeter is attached to the archaeological site of Carthage, a UNESCO World Heritage Site.”

>>

>> There are barely any mentions of Baal. I surely don’t remember him being mentioned that frequently. But I do remember we talked about Tanit, Yahweh and Moloch. Oh well, I’m getting old and I’m really tired.

Here, they are telling us that the Tophet of Carthage was of hybrid use as in it was a necropolis and a sanctuary at the same time. As in rituals were performed there as what happens in sanctuaries and in the same time, it was a burial site for those whom were sacrificed there. This contradicts what was said in the Bible about the Tophet of Jerusalem being solely a place where the rituals were practiced. The necropolis should have been in a walking distance from the Tophet of Jerusalem = in the vicinity of the Tophet – that is, if it existed in the first place.

“La question du sort de ces enfants est fortement liée à la religion phénicienne et punique mais surtout à la manière dont les rites religieux — et au-delà la civilisation phénicienne et punique — ont été perçus par les Juifs dans le cas des Phéniciens ou par les Romains à l'occasion des conflits qui les opposèrent aux Puniques. En effet, le terme de « tophet » désigne originellement un lieu proche de Jérusalem synonyme de l'enfer: ce nom provenant de sources bibliques induit une interprétation macabre des rites supposés y avoir lieu et corrobore un postulat partagé par les interlocuteurs ayant livré des sources sur les Phéniciens en général et les Puniques en particulier : la religion à Carthage était « infernale ». Plus récemment, l'imaginaire collectif a été alimenté par le roman de Gustave Flaubert, Salammbô (1862), qui donna son nom au quartier où fut découvert le sanctuaire. La bande dessinée Le Spectre de Carthage, partie des aventures d'Alix écrites par Jacques Martin, reprend cette interprétation. »

“The question of the fate of these children is strongly linked to the Phoenician and Punic religion but above all to the way in which the religious rites - and beyond the Phoenician and Punic civilization - were perceived by the Jews in the case of the Phoenicians or by the Romans on the occasion of the conflicts which opposed them to the Punics. Indeed, the term “tophet” originally designates a place close to Jerusalem synonymous with hell: this name coming from biblical sources induces a macabre interpretation of the rites supposed to take place there and corroborates a postulate shared by the interlocutors who provided the sources. on the Phoenicians in general and the Punics in particular: the religion in Carthage was "infernal". More recently, the collective imagination has been fueled by the novel by Gustave Flaubert3, Salammbô4 (1862), which gave its name to the district where the sanctuary was discovered. The comic strip The Specter of Carthage, part of the adventures of Alix written by Jacques Martin, takes up this interpretation.”

>> So it all rests on how the Jews perceived the Phoenician religion and then how the Roman perceived the Punic religion. Amazing!

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a8de9f  No.14966164

>>14966132

(Please read from the start)

What’s the meaning of macabre: disturbing because concerned with or causing a fear of death.

What’s the synonym of macabre: gruesome, grisly, grim, gory, morbid, ghastly, unearthly, lurid, grotesque, hideous, horrific, horrible, horrifying, horrid, horrendous, terrifying, frightening, frightful, fearsome, shocking, dreadful, appalling, loathsome, repugnant, repulsive, sickening, black, weird, unhealthy, sick.

What’s the first thing that comes to your mind when you read the synonyms of macabre? = me, it’s pedovore.

And this was right outside of Jerusalem and the horrors there were at such a scale that king Josiah had to close it down and take measures against it, but….it persisted in secret, the prophets were voicing themselves even after the site was supposedly closed and the practice stopped…supposedly. But don’t forget: it’s the Phoenicians fault. It always is.

Anons…just stop there a few seconds and think hard about this open air Tophet = place of macabre rituals in Jerusalem. We have 2 possibilities of how the ritual was performed:

1 – Either it’s like what the Jews themselves accused the Phoenicians of doing = throw the infant while it’s still alive in the fire of the pyre. But…. I see a lot of …how should I call them?!… flaws, inconveniences?!

A – The screams of the children while they are in the fire. It would have filled the entire area. Anyone in the vicinity would have heard it and I bet it was greatly unpleasant to hear.

B – The Smell of human flesh burning in the pyre must have filled the entire area and if the wind blew….depending on the direction of course, that smell would have been all over Jerusalem since the Tophet was so close to the city walls.

C – The location of this Tophet itself is intriguing. Imagine me being a caravan trader coming from Persia (or any other place as an example) to trade in Jerusalem and this is what I see next to the Western wall of the City. Any trader with a functioning brain would run the heck out of there at the sight, the smell or the sound of that place.

D – Even if they are infants, the victims would have struggled when they are thrown into the fire for at least a couple of minutes. It’s a normal reaction when the human body is in pain. So I don’t believe for one second the victims were NOT tied up – right the opposite, I believe they were, in order to restrain their movement and stop them from struggling. It’s easier for the priest to carry it that way and throw it into the fire. If there are embers in the fire and the infant is fidgeting, even for one single minute, what will happen to the priest standing close to it? Isn’t he in danger of catching fire himself? So logically, if the infant was still alive while being thrown into the fire, it should be tied up for the reasons I’ve just stated to you.

You think this is gruesome and disgusting, right? I fully agree.

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a8de9f  No.14966388

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>>14966164

(Please read from the start)

2 – Or, it’s like what Plutarch said earlier (when taking a look at the Tophet) the infants had their throats cut first = killed, then their dead bodies would have been thrown in the fire of the pyre. Here it means they have to deal with the blood coming out from the victim and the smell of it. But in the same time, they don’t have to face the problem of the screams for a long time, nor do they have to tie down the victim before throwing it into the fire.

Plutarch’s words don’t fit at all the description given to us in the Bible by the Jews of how the ritual was performed by the Phoenicians = throwing the infants while they are alive in the fire of the pyre. But his words fit perfectly with the ritual performed nowadays by the Kabballah and the Bloodlines.

Now ask yourself, what can make a place look infernal or like hell? = Blood splattered all over the place and remains and body parts scattered all over the place. That is hellish anons. It’s exactly what was taking place under Epstein’s temple. Do you remember there was a fire pit on the side of the temple on the surface = in open air next to Epstein island temple? I keep on wondering why would they put a fire pit there, in that spot. What if the pedovores killed the children downstairs and practiced cannibalism…then, they came up to the surface to burn the remains as a sacrificial offering to their deity in that fire pit. I’m attaching a picture for anons about the pit near the Epstein temple.

If the infants had their throats cut or simply stabbed before they were thrown into the fire than it means it was a bloody scene. When you think about a blood and macabre scene…how do you see it? How do you imagine it to be? Go google an image. I’m not going to put one because it’s very disturbing and sickening. When you think of a bloody and macabre scene it means there is blood splatters and there are human remains = human body parts scattered around.

In turn this means, the area must have been filled with rats, wild animals come to prey on the remains, the smell is horrible and the area is filled with sicknesses like the plague or the cholera.

Hold that thought and zap yourself from the past to the present. Before Qteam showed up in this place and before anons started digging. I always thought the Phoenicians sacrificed their children as mentioned in option 1. But after being here, and thanks to Qteam pointing the way, I finally understand how the ritual was performed = I was wrong, it was never option 1 but option 2. How do I know this? = because this ritual was passed down from the ancestors to nowadays Bloodline/Kabballah.

In turn this means Plutarch was projecting in his writings the ritual performed by the Bloodlines of his time. He witnessed it, he performed it himself, he was told of it by a witness or a member…the possibilities are too many. Which brings me to how the Roman sources (as well as the Greek ones) all agree that the ritual performed by the Carthaginians was infernal….but none agree on the method of the ritual = how it was performed; as we’ve read in the Tophet page of Wikipedia mentioned in page 1 501.

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a8de9f  No.14966393

>>14966388

(Please read from the start)

Here are parts of it again: “The account given by the Greco-Roman authors is questionable. They were not eye-witnesses, contradict each other on how the children were killed, and describe children older than infants being killed as opposed to the infants found in the tophets. […]”

Whom do you believe? = the “written sources” or the tangible, physical evidence? It’s up to you to decide.

As for citing “rather recent” writings or mentions about the Phoenicians sacrificing children….well….what sources did they use to get their information from? Whom is paying them to write these things? And isn’t this part of the MSM? Isn’t this how (((they))) control the masses = including the comics and the printed books = novels included?

So which is it anons? For me….the correct answer is provided to us by Qteam = as in the sacrificed victims were killed first, then their remains were burned. It confirms the second option, not the first. I don’t know if Qteam did it on purpose or it was coincidental but by pointing to us how the Bloodlines practice their disgusting ritual of child sacrifice, the team has also helped solve the riddle of the Tophet of Carthage.

“La difficulté majeure pour déterminer la cause des inhumations réside dans le fait que les seules sources écrites rapportant le rite du sacrifice des enfants sont toutes étrangères à la cité de Carthage. Les sources archéologiques — stèles et cippes — sont quant à elles sujettes à de multiples interprétations. Le débat a donc été longtemps vif et n'est pas encore totalement tranché entre les divers historiens qui se sont penchés sur le sujet. La plus grande prudence s'impose donc, l'historien de l'Antiquité se trouvant face à des sources écrites et archéologiques sinon divergentes, du moins soumises à interprétations. »

“The major difficulty in determining the cause of the burials lies in the fact that the only written sources relating the rite of the sacrifice of children are all foreign to the city of Carthage. The archaeological sources - stelae and cippi - are subject to multiple interpretations. The debate has therefore been lively for a long time and is not yet fully settled between the various historians who have looked into the subject. The greatest caution is therefore called for, the historian of Antiquity being faced with written and archaeological sources if not divergent, at least subject to interpretation.”

>> This is what I used to tell my students and caution them about. And yes, the debate was never settled. But now, for me it is. Flotus, Potus and Qteam helped me finally understand this and see through it. And I will be explaining it to anons further down.

“Brève histoire d'une découverte

Prémices

Depuis longtemps, on connaît la présence de stèles sur le site, les premières indications connues datant de 1817. En effet, les stèles étaient réparties sur l'ensemble du site de Carthage, de par la dispersion ayant suivi la destruction de 146 av. J.-C. et les opérations d'urbanisme ayant remué le sol lors de la construction de la ville romaine. »

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a8de9f  No.14966408

>>14966393

(Please read from the start)

« Le site de Carthage fait très rapidement l'objet de graves prédations, avec la prise de matériaux de construction dont le marbre. Ces prédations concourent au délabrement progressif des principaux monuments. De 1825 à 1827, un architecte et militaire hollandais, Jean-Émile Humbert (en), fait envoyer des cippes et des bases votives au musée national des Antiquités à Leyde. Le musée archéologique de Cracovie possède également de très belles stèles puniques en provenance du site. »

“Brief history of a discovery

First fruits

For a long time, we know the presence of stelae on the site, the first known indications dating from 1817. Indeed, the stelae were distributed over the entire site of Carthage, by the dispersion following the destruction of 146 BC. J. - C. and the operations of town planning having disturbed the ground during the construction of the Roman city.

The Carthage site is very quickly the object of serious predations, with the taking of construction materials including marble. These predations contribute to the progressive decay of the main monuments. From 1825 to 1827, a Dutch architect and soldier, Jean-Émile Humbert (en), had cippos and votive bases sent to the National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden. The Krakow Archaeological Museum also has some very beautiful Punic stelae from the site.”

>> We’ve encountered similar situation before in this thread, didn’t we anons, with the temple of Eshmun. There and right here in Carthage, the blocks were reused in other construction for centuries and then the Westerners simply came in and plundered the site, taking back with them whatever artifacts, monuments they wished to take. All of this means this site is “damaged” and it was subjected to modification. Unfortunately, this is the case of many sites worldwide where old sites were discovered “early” and they were plundered. A lot of archaeological artifacts decorate the houses of royalty, nobility and the wealthy.

“Par ailleurs, dans l'histoire de Carthage, il faut donner une place à part à la cargaison du Louvre ainsi qu'au naufrage du Magenta, navire amiral de la flotte de la Méditerranée coulé à Toulon le 31 octobre 1875, à la suite d'un incendie suivi d'une explosion. À bord se trouvaient plus de 2 000 stèles puniques et d'autres pièces dont la statue de l'impératrice Sabine, femme de l'empereur romain Hadrien (117-138). Les pièces archéologiques avaient été chargées à La Goulette, et provenaient des fouilles (autorisées par Sadok Bey) de Pricot de Sainte-Marie, interprète au consulat général de France. À la suite du naufrage, les scaphandriers récupèrent une partie des stèles et de la statue, les pièces archéologiques étant dispersées entre diverses collections, dont la Bibliothèque nationale de France. Quant à l'épave, elle est dynamitée afin qu'elle n'empêche pas l'accès au port. À douze mètres de fond, ce qui subsistait de l'épave s'est envasé peu à peu. Trois campagnes archéologiques sont effectuées en 1995-1998 par Max Guérout et le Groupe de recherche en archéologie navale afin de récupérer des stèles ainsi que la tête de la statue. En avril-mai 1995, la tête de la statue de Sabine est retrouvée7 puis, en avril-mai 1997, environ 60 fragments de stèles ainsi que des fragments de la statue. Enfin, en 1998, 77 fragments ou stèles retrouvent la surface. »

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4609cd  No.14976661

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>>14966408

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« Moreover, in the history of Carthage, a special place must be given to the cargo of the Louvre as well as to the shipwreck of the Magenta, flagship of the Mediterranean fleet sunk in Toulon on October 31, 1875, following 'a fire followed by an explosion. On board were more than 2,000 Punic stelae and other pieces including the statue of Empress Sabina, wife of Roman Emperor Hadrian (117-138). The archaeological pieces had been loaded in La Goulette, and came from the excavations (authorized by Sadok Bey) of Pricot de Sainte-Marie, interpreter at the Consulate General of France. Following the shipwreck, the divers recovered part of the stelae and the statue, the archaeological pieces being dispersed among various collections, including the National Library of France. As for the wreck, it is dynamited so that it does not prevent access to the port. At a depth of twelve meters, what remained of the wreckage gradually silted up. Three archaeological campaigns were carried out in 1995-1998 by Max Guérout and the Naval Archeology Research Group in order to recover stelae as well as the head of the statue. In April-May 1995, the head of the statue of Sabine was found7 then, in April-May 1997, around 60 fragments of stelae as well as fragments of the statue. Finally, in 1998, 77 fragments or stelae returned to the surface.”

>> Is it just me or do you find this entire incident of the ship Magenta really suspicious? Isn’t it odd to blow up the ship to sink it, then blow it again “supposedly” to open the underwater passage way for the ships? What are the options we have here on our hands:

1 – This is truly an accident and things happened as it is written here.

2 – The ship was sank intentionally and the “cargo” was secretly taken because the Bloodlines were “interested” in it = get their hands on those Punic steles.

3 – The cargo was considered as “dangerous” for the Bloodlines and (((they))) decided to destroy it in order to hide a truth about a matter (((they))) didn’t want the public to know about.

“Parmi les précurseurs, il faut souligner le rôle tenu par Jean Herszek Spiro (1847-1914), pasteur et un temps professeur au Collège Sadiki, revenu à Lausanne avec 19 stèles, et rédigeant un ouvrage sur Les inscriptions et les stèles votives de Carthage (1895). Nous n'avons aucune indication de la découverte du tophet tant pour les fouilles de Pricot de Sainte-Marie que pour les découvertes de Spiro. Tout au plus on soulignait pour le premier la découverte de stèles réemployées dans des murs d'époque romaine. Tous ces vestiges provenant primitivement du tophet avaient fait l'objet d'un déplacement dès l'Antiquité et personne ne cherchait un lieu précis où elles avaient pu être regroupées. Les collectes archéologiques de Spiro relevaient surtout d'une recherche épigraphique. Une découverte fortuite allait faire changer la compréhension de tout un pan de la topographie de la Carthage punique. »

« Among the precursors, it is necessary to underline the role played by Jean Herszek Spiro (1847-1914), pastor and a time professor at the College Sadiki, returned to Lausanne with 19 steles, and writing a work on the inscriptions and the votive steles of Carthage ( 1895). We have no indication of the discovery of the tophet either for the excavations of Pricot de Sainte-Marie or for the discoveries of Spiro. At most, the first was the discovery of stelae reused in walls from the Roman period. All these remains, originally from the tophet, had been moved since Antiquity and no one was looking for a specific place where they could have been gathered. The archaeological collections of Spiro were mainly the result of epigraphic research. A fortuitous discovery would change the understanding of a whole section of the topography of Punic Carthage.”

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4609cd  No.14976701

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>>14976661

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« Découverte de 1921

En 1921 est mise au jour la stèle dite du prêtre dans le cadre de fouilles archéologiques clandestines, très fréquentes à l'époque. Une stèle en calcaire, de plus d'un mètre de haut, sur laquelle figure un adulte portant un chapeau typique des kohanim (prêtres puniques), une tunique punique et tenant dans ses bras un jeune enfant, est alors proposée par un pourvoyeur à des amateurs éclairés d'antiquités, Paul Gielly et François Icard, fonctionnaires en poste en Tunisie. Face à une pièce qui semblait confirmer en tous points les données bibliques et certains auteurs classiques, les deux amateurs sont émus et décident de mettre fin à la clandestinité afin que nulle découverte ne puisse échapper aux archéologues et historiens. Ils achètent le terrain et y pratiquent des fouilles jusqu'à l'automne 1922. »

«Discovery of 1921

In 1921 the so-called stele of the priest was brought to light as part of clandestine archaeological excavations, very frequent at the time. A limestone stele, more than a meter high, on which appears an adult wearing a hat typical of the kohanim (Punic priests), a Punic tunic and holding a young child in his arms, is then offered by a provider to enlightened amateurs of antiques, Paul Gielly and François Icard, civil servants stationed in Tunisia. Faced with a piece that seemed to confirm in all points the biblical data and certain classical authors, the two amateurs are moved and decide to put an end to the underground so that no discovery can escape the archaeologists and historians. They bought the land and carried out excavations there until the fall of 1922.”

>> I’m attaching with this page a picture of the Stele with priest carrying a child. So, because of the iconography on this stele, amateurs Gielly & Icard saw a confirmation of what was written in the Bible and some classical authors about the Phoenicians practicing human sacrifice. In other words a priest is holding a child on a stele from back then is to them human sacrifice has taken place because that stele was found in a children cemetery.

Let’s take a look at the stele itself and see what archaeology is going to tell us:

We see on our right hand side a Punic priest (wearing his priest attire, including the hat) from the side = he is not facing us. His eyes and his ear are notably drawn and his nose is styled. These small details are important because they are highlighting the importance of the priest’s facial features as in to be able to identify/recognize him. He has his right foot put forward. Just behind him, from the market ground up, there is a strange, thin vertical line = it goes up from the ground, all the way to the mid height of his thigh. I have no idea what this could be exactly, but a possibility this could be pointing he is inside a closed space, like a room.

His right hand in lifted up in the traditional praying gesture of the priest. I’ve attached with this page a picture of a relief from Ancient Egypt (last picture) where we can see a priest kneeling and holding both of his hands up = prayer gesture – for comparison for anons.

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4609cd  No.14976712

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>>14976701

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In his left arm, not hand, but arm, the priest is holding a child/infant. The way he is holding the child is not strange as we know a lot of parents will do the same when their other hand is busy. I’m putting some pictures I’ve found online of some celebrity fathers (whom I don’t know the name) holding their children like that and as well as a randomly picked picture of even a lady holding a child like that. So there is nothing wrong with holding a child like that. And he is holding it like that because his other hand is in a praying position = busy hand.

What is strange is the face of the child/infant this priest is holding = it has no facial features. When we compare the care given to draw the facial features of the priest with those of the child, you will notice a huge difference. This makes you wonder why is that? = why the child doesn’t have any facial features?

There are many theories about it out there and many opinions. One of them says this is a dead child he is holding. Another says the child doesn’t have facial features because he is born prematurely so his facial features are not complete yet. I think the possibility of this being both of these theories is high because of the size of the child compared to that of the adult. When you look at it, the child is very small in proportion with the adult. I’m saying there is a chance this child might be born prematurely and died. This priest is praying for the dead child while holding him to cremate him when the prayer is finished. You will understand me better and why I’m saying this as I move forward. Please be patient with me for now and take note of this.

Right above the priest, there is a row made of 3 rosettes = the Beam of light coming down from the sky I talked many times already about. I think these 3 beams = rosettes are pointing to the transfer of the soul of the dead child – or at least the parents are hoping the beam will transport the soul of their dead child up to Heaven. Right about the 3 Beams line there is a decorative design that looks a lot like pennants.

Right above the pennants like decoration we have a line of waves depicted. Right about the waves we have 2 fishes, oriented outwards and styled in symmetrical way. They are in harmony with the line of wave right below them.

Above the fishes, in the middle, there is a rosette and right on top of it there is a moon crescent, represented upside down = pointing downwards. This is an odd representation of the moon as it is often seen in its crescent form represented vertically or a bit diagonally – picture 4 with this page. When it’s represented horizontally, it’s never upside down like what we see on the stele. We usually see it as seen in the last picture I’m attaching with this page.

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4609cd  No.14976720

>>14976712

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Maybe I’m mistaking, but I don’t remember seeing a moon crescent looking upside down like this one anons. Anyone reading has ever seen an upside down moon crescent before. I haven’t been to the south hemisphere before, so I’m wondering if the moon looks differently from down there. It would be great is this could be clarified.

Right above the inverted moon crescent there are a bit more of waves represented. Now a lot of “experts” interpret this design as being the symbol of Tanit. It’s kinda true because Tanit is apparently a mutated form of the Evil Lady. The fishes are pointing to her mermaid form which I’ve already explained before. The waves go with the fishes, but they could also mean the Flood waters. As for the inverted crescent those are the horns with the spark or light beam between them, as I explained about Hathor horns. It could also be that beam that comes down from the sky….but then, I have no clue what the crescent shape could be if that is a beam coming from the sky. And here is the trick: is this truly the symbol of Tanit? Or could this symbol be attributed to ALL 3 horned Sebetti clans: the Lamassu clan, the Ram clan and the Antelope clan. Loads to think about here.

So after taking a closer look at the stele anons….can anyone reading explain to me what’s wrong with the stele? Is there any type of indication this child was sacrificed by this priest? There was a temple of Eshmun in Carthage. So why none thought this infant could be sick and what we see on the stele could be a healing ritual by a priest of Eshmun? Then after a while the child died, so the parents remembered that their child got the blessings of Eshmun and got better for some time, so they decided to honor that moment. Is it possible or not? It is, so why go directly at the speed of light to negative thinking and say this stele represent a priest sacrificing a child? Why say this is ultimate proof the Phoenicians (which had nothing to do with Carthaginian religion by then) sacrificed children?

All we see on this stele is a priest holding a child and performing a prayer or ritual. We don’t know what type of ritual he is performing. It could be a blessing ritual, it could be a healing ritual or it could be a sacrificial ritual. We don’t know which one it is. There are no indication it was sacrificial = some “smart experts” argue that the death of the child = remains + tombstone stele, are indicators this child was sacrificed by the priest we see on the stele. We don’t know that for certain. We don’t know when the child died. Did it die right after the ritual? Before it, or during it? So many questions and uncertainties, but… let’s rush and call this proof of Phoenicians/Carthaginians practicing child sacrifice. Do so if you want to, but for me, this proves nothing.

Maybe this priest was doing funeral ritual for the dead child and then cremated it because the child was most probably born prematurely = no facial features. If this turns out to be the case, then this is no child sacrifice scene, but a burial scene for a child born before his time = before 9 months. I think this is what we are dealing with. I think this child is born prematurely and the priest is conducting funeral ceremony. Don’t tell me that is a wrong thing to do? We do hold funerals till this day you know. This is what I see is represented on this stele and this is not child sacrifice ritual.

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4609cd  No.14976735

>>14976720

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“La première fouille américaine, menée par Francis Willey Kelsey et Donald Benjamin Harden en 1925, apporte une compréhension globale de l'organisation du site. Hélas, le décès de Kelsey en 1927 entraîne la fin de cette session de fouilles. Quant au père Gabriel-Guillaume Lapeyre, père blanc, il fouille un terrain voisin en 1934-1936 et récolte du matériel archéologique et épigraphique divers, mais sans précisions stratigraphiques permettant de comprendre le contexte de la découverte.

Fouilles récentes : de Pierre Cintas à la campagne internationale de l'Unesco

« Chapelle Cintas » et lieux de culte

À partir de la fin de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, Pierre Cintas effectue des fouilles sur le site et découvre en “The first American excavation, carried out by Francis Willey Kelsey and Donald Benjamin Harden in 1925, provides a global understanding of the organization of the site. Unfortunately, Kelsey's death in 1927 brought the excavation session to an end. As for Father Gabriel-Guillaume Lapeyre, a white father, he excavated a neighboring site in 1934-1936 and collected various archaeological and epigraphic material, but without stratigraphic details allowing the context of the discovery to be understood.

Recent excavations: from Pierre Cintas to UNESCO's international campaign

"Cintas Chapel" and places of worship

From the end of the Second World War, Pierre Cintas carried out excavations on the site and in 1947 discovered one of the elements which raised a great controversy at the time: the element called "Cintas chapel" in honor. of its discoverer. Surrounded by masonry in a chamber of about 1 m2, what was interpreted as a high period foundation deposit was made up of ceramic pieces of various origins from the 8th century BC. AD, the oldest element of the presence of the Phoenicians on this earth. They have been the subject of extensive studies and were deposited in crevices on native soil. The intricacies of the dating of ceramics in particular, obviously Aegean for some of them, allow a dating that is lower than that which was first proposed by Cintas.”

“Dernières fouilles américaines

Ces dernières fouilles, liées à la campagne internationale de fouilles menées par l'Unesco ont lieu entre 1976 et 1979 sous l'égide de l'American Schools of Oriental Research (ASOR) et de Lawrence Stager. »

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4609cd  No.14976741

>>14976735

(Please read from the start)

« En guise de bilan des fouilles a été prouvée une utilisation continue du site sur six siècles, avec une surface estimée à 6 000 m2, 20 000 urnes ayant été découvertes sur diverses strates :

« Dès que l'aire sacrée était totalement occupée, elle était recouverte de terre et les dépositions recommençaient au niveau supérieur. »

Les restes découverts, dès les premières fouilles, ont fait l'objet d'analyses médico-légales, les résultats ayant semé davantage de troubles que donné une réponse aux questions lancinantes que se posaient les spécialistes. »

“Latest American excavations

These latest excavations, linked to the international excavation campaign led by Unesco, took place between 1976 and 1979 under the aegis of the American Schools of Oriental Research (ASOR) and Lawrence Stager.

As a result of the excavations, continued use of the site over six centuries has been proven, with an estimated surface area of 6,000 m2, 20,000 urns having been discovered on various strata:

“As soon as the sacred area was completely occupied, it was covered with earth and the depositions began again at the upper level."

The remains discovered, from the first excavations, were the subject of forensic analyzes, the results having sown more trouble than given an answer to the nagging questions posed by the specialists.”

>> The large amount of urns found on different levels = stratas is an indicator the burying of the urns took place for a long period. For the priest to have filled the lowest level, then covered it with soil to fill the second level and redo it – it means this was considered as sacred ground. And no, the results of the medical tests didn’t give confusing answers to the nagging questions. There are those whom were weighing on the scale behind the scenes to cause confusion. And in the same time, the biggest puzzle was: what is the cause of the big number of deaths: as in if this wasn’t a child sacrifice site, what could have caused the death of such a big number of children over such a long period of time. This answers escaped us = whom believed the Phoenicians DID NOT practice human sacrifice/child sacrifice as they were accused of. The answer escaped us for an extremely long time. We were looking for some type of illness or decease but we couldn’t find it. Until I came to this board and I found the answer thanks to Potus and Flotus help.

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ff9c8c  No.14982235

>>14976741

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“Topographie du site et découvertes archéologiques

Caractères du site

« Fouiller, c'est détruire » : cet adage de tout archéologue (le fouilleur détruit l'objet de sa science) est encore davantage valide dans le cas du tophet de par la nature du site, « suite de couches superposées de terres, d'urnes et d'ex-voto » et la superposition des stèles. Il faut signaler de même que le périmètre du site n'est pas connu précisément du fait du bouleversement du site de Carthage depuis l'époque romaine et de l'urbanisation intense qui fait que le tophet se situe actuellement dans un quartier résidentiel. Situé à l'extrême sud de la cité, à proximité du port commercial, le site se trouvait à un endroit particulièrement insalubre et marécageux. Lors des fouilles, les archéologues atteignent un niveau d'eau saumâtre. »

“Topography of the site and archaeological discoveries

Site characters

"To excavate is to destroy": this adage of any archaeologist (the excavator destroys the object of his science) is even more valid in the case of the tophet by the nature of the site, "a series of superimposed layers of earth, d 'urns and votive offerings' and the superimposition of stelae. It should also be noted that the perimeter of the site is not known precisely because of the upheaval of the Carthage site since Roman times and the intense urbanization which means that the tophet is currently located in a residential area. Located in the extreme south of the city, near the commercial port, the site was in a particularly unsanitary and marshy place. During excavations, archaeologists reach a brackish water level.”

>> Unfortunately, this is true, mostly with all the previous excavations and the diggings that took place on the site. We already read some excavations, like that of father Lapeyre, weren’t even well documented and loads of initial, important data was lost. It’s not the first time that modern day construction is built on top of ancient sites. This causes problems for us = we simply cannot destroy the home and the business of someone just to dig up an old site. So what we are left to do is actually wait and leave the digging for the younger generation.

" Le tophet, comme celui de Motyé, était situé à l'écart des vivants et même de la nécropole stricto sensu et présente quatre caractères communs aux autres tophets :

Le site est en premier lieu vierge, aucune couche archéologique antérieure à l'arrivée des marchands phéniciens n'a été trouvée lors des diverses fouilles archéologiques. Ce même caractère est valable également pour les autres tophets qui ont pu être reconnus et fouillés dans le monde phénico-punique. »

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ff9c8c  No.14982263

File: 67c2fab6513b675⋯.jpg (131.36 KB, 1024x681, 1024:681, Tunisise_Carthage_Tophet_S….jpg)

>>14982235

(Please read from the start)

“The tophet, like that of Motyé, was located away from the living and even from the necropolis stricto sensu and has four characteristics common to the other tophets:

The site is primarily virgin, no archaeological layer prior to the arrival of the Phoenician merchants has been found during various archaeological excavations. This same character is also valid for the other tophets which could be recognized and excavated in the Phoenician-Punic world.”

>> So the oldest archaeological layer = strata is the one of the foundation by the Phoenicians. Nothing prior to that. This confirms the Phoenicians founded Carthage.

“Le site est également situé à l'air libre, même si l'image la plus connue du tophet est celle de la partie qui est située sous des voûtes romaines et qui a été dégagée lors des fouilles de Kelsey. Cette image qui, il faut bien l'avouer, correspondait assez à un lieu où le sacrifice tant honni aurait eu lieu, n'est pas l'espace tel qu'il se présentait à l'époque, délimité et à l'air libre. »

« The site is also located in the open air, although the best-known image of the tophet is that of the part which is located under Roman vaults and which was unearthed during the excavations of Kelsey. This image which, it must be admitted, corresponded enough to a place where the so much hated sacrifice would have taken place, is not the space as it appeared at the time, delimited and in the open air.”

>> Do you understand what they did here? The so called “experts” which are none others than the paid mafia, hired to accuse the Phoenicians of child sacrifice – used what you see in the picture I’m attaching with this page as proof that the Tophet was a sanctuary where the sacrifices used to take place by the Phoenicians; and this, despite the fact that it was built by the Romans after they took the city in 146 B.C. Let me explain: the area of the Tophet you see in the picture was originally an open air area = had no roof. It was this way from the foundation of Carthage till 146 B.C. = fall of the city. So what happened from 814 B.C. (foundation date of the city) till 146 B.C. (fall of the city)?

From the foundation date till the fall date, the Carthaginians kept this area as an open air area and they buried urns with cremated remains in it. Once the first stratum was filled, they covered it with soil and buried more urns in the new strata…and so on. When the Romans took over and rebuilt the new city after the fall of the Punic Carthage, they built the structure you see in the picture above = on top of the many strata of the open air burial site, which ended up enclosing it.

Despite knowing this, despite being fully aware of this, the supposed “experts” took the closed area built during the Roman times and considered it as proof this is THE sanctuary where the children sacrifice took place. This is how the supposed “experts” presented this structure to the world and to the public, citing it as proof the Carthaginians and the Phoenicians (note they didn’t say stick to the Carthaginians, they had to drag the Phoenicians in this as well) sacrificed children. Which is nothing but pure deception and lie. This is the “Art” of manipulating the data and twisting facts to fill a certain agenda = pin a crime on the Phoenicians they never committed. This is like you are a police homicide detective looking into an old murder case and you just discovered that someone had planted evidence into the crime scene. It’s the same situation here.

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ff9c8c  No.14982290

File: 3bb849a26c66e7c⋯.jpg (80.91 KB, 650x374, 325:187, Shaver_Cemetery_Near_MP_13….jpg)

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>>14982263

(Please read from the s tart)

“Le troisième caractère du tophet est le fait que le site est ordinairement entièrement clos : cependant, à Carthage, l'enceinte du tophet n'a été reconnue que très partiellement au moment des fouilles de Pierre Cintas. Cependant, cette enceinte semble avoir été débordée dès le Ve siècle av. J.-C. Pour ce qui est de la surface précise du tophet, il est fort peu probable qu'on la connaisse un jour de par l'emprise urbaine de la Carthage contemporaine, en particulier dans la zone littorale. »

« The third characteristic of the tophet is the fact that the site is usually entirely enclosed: however, in Carthage, the enclosure of the tophet was only very partially recognized at the time of the excavations of Pierre Cintas. However, this enclosure seems to have been overwhelmed as early as the 5th century BC. As for the precise surface of the tophet, it is highly unlikely that we will ever know it from the urban influence of contemporary Carthage, in particular in the coastal area.”

>> This means the Tophet had a fence or a wall, or a hedge. This is very common for cemeteries anons. It’s still practiced to nowadays and we used different types of fences. Nothing out of normal here. In fact, this enclosure = fence of the Tophet is an additional proof to me this is actually a cemetery = a burial ground where the cremated remains of still-born and premature children were put in urns and buried. This is not a Tophet = as in a sanctuary where children sacrifice used to take place. I’m putting a couple of pictures for anons to have a visual of how cemeteries have fences around them. This is very normal.

“Le dernier caractère du site est sa double fonction, votive (les stèles portant une dédicace à Ba'al Hammon ou à Tanit) et funéraire (stèles funéraires). Ce double caractère trouve un élément de preuve dans le fait que le terme « molk » (offrande) est très peu présent dans les stèles épigraphiées, les autres étant associées à des urnes funéraires sans autre indication. »

« The last character of the site is its dual function, votive (the stelae bearing a dedication to Ba'al Hammon or Tanit) and funerary (funeral stelae). This double character finds an element of proof in the fact that the term "molk" (offering) is very little present in the epigraphed steles, the others being associated with funeral urns without other indication.”

>> Here, they are admitting this is a burial ground = a cemetery. We did talk about MLK before, didn’t we? Back then, they made it sound as if the word MLK was placated all over the Tophet and all over Carthage. But amazingly, here we found out is not very used = is little “presented” on the steles. Do you remember what was written in the English Wikipedia page about MLK? And here, it’s the French page, and they are admitting here, it’s barely there = as in having a few examples of it = on the steles of Carthage. See how the narrative changed big time from the English page to the French page? Why do you think that anons?

The English readers/speakers are the ones whom are targeted by the deceit in the information provided to you by Wikipedia. So ask yourself why are they lying to you? = it’s to hide something = to hide the truth from all English speaking/reading persons. Why is that? Think about it deeply. The answer is a very specific group = the Christian Americans (mostly), and I can add a bit more the English talking Christians. Why are they the target of this deceit? = because without their blind belief = believing what is written word to word in the Bible, the Jews and the Bloodlines are going to lose the narrative (((they))) fabricated about the Phoenicians.

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ff9c8c  No.14982306

>>14982290

(Please read from the start)

As in if the truth comes out this is a burial ground = a cemetery in Carthage and not a Tophet = a place to sacrifice children; then the entire narrative pushed forward by the Bible and the Jews that the Phoenicians sacrifice children would fall apart and the Sheep will start to question it. When you start to question the narrative of the Bible, mostly the Old Testament, you will slowly but surely start to discover and realize you have been lied to, it’s not factual, it’s edited and you are being manipulated and led by your nose, your faith is used as a weapon against you to control you by a very specific group of people. A lot of shallow people will think this is proof that our Heavenly Father doesn’t exist. You are wrong. This is proof that He exists and (((they))) and have distorted the truth on purpose to keep you away, far away from Him as much as possible. Think about what I just said.

“Stratigraphie du tophet et typologie des stèles et cippes

Organisation en périodes (Tanit I, II, III)

La typologie du produit des découvertes, et en particulier des stèles, est le fruit des fouilles américaines, d'abord des fouilles Kelsey-Harden de 1925, et s'est vue affinée dans les années 1970, ainsi résumée par François Decret : « Compte tenu des divers types de poteries renfermant les cendres de victimes et de l'installation des dépôts sacrificiels, on peut distinguer trois phases dans cette stratification : la plus ancienne, où les vases étaient recouverts sous des tas de petites pierres ou sous des galets ; la deuxième […] qui contient des urnes posées sous des pierres en forme d'obélisque, de bétyles ou sous des cippes de divers types ; la plus récente enfin, qui est caractérisée par des stèles plates à sommet triangulaire, parfois flanqué d'acrotères. »

“Stratigraphy of the tophet and typology of stelae and cippi

Organization in periods (Tanit I, II, III)

The typology of the product of the discoveries, and in particular of the stelae, is the result of American excavations, first of the Kelsey-Harden excavations of 1925, and was refined in the 1970s, thus summarized by François Decret: “Compte given the various types of pottery containing the ashes of victims and the installation of sacrificial deposits, we can distinguish three phases in this stratification: the oldest, where the vases were covered under heaps of small stones or under pebbles; the second […] which contains urns placed under stones in the shape of an obelisk, betyls or under cippi of various types; finally, the most recent, which is characterized by flat stelae with a triangular top, sometimes flanked by acroterions. "

>> The moment a reader hears Tanit, they will think this is child sacrifice stelae and urns. This is done on purpose, because most some stelae have Tanit on the inscriptions and in the same time, it’s to tap onto the programing you are under as in the moment you hear the word Tanit you will automatically think of child sacrifice. It’s the same type of programing as what they did to the name of Hannibal, associating it to cannibalism in the mind of the public through a Hollywood movie. They could have named it any name or word, I don’t care what it is, it could be daisy or horse or airplane etc. But they chose to name it Tanit on purpose. Why not name it Eshmun for example? Or why not name burial level I, II, III? See what I mean? Anyway, you can identify the strata by the method of burial or the way they were buried = to which category they belonged indicates to which level they were buried in.

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ff9c8c  No.14982340

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>>14982306

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« Les dépositions présentent toutes un caractère stéréotypé : une urne enterrée et entourée de pierres contenait des os brûlés, accompagnée d'offrandes funéraires comme des masques de terre cuite et de petits masques de pâte de verre qui ont été trouvés lors des fouilles archéologiques, et surplombée de monuments, qui pouvaient être des stèles ou des cippes. »

“The depositions all have a stereotypical character: an urn buried and surrounded by stones contained burnt bones, accompanied by funeral offerings such as terracotta masks and small masks of glass paste which were found during archaeological excavations, and overlooked by monuments, which could be stelae or cippi. "

>> Now the reader understands that every single burial, from all 3 layers = levels = strata, were ALL, I repeat ALL buried in the same standard = stereotyped way. And this is very, extremely important. There was a uniform way to bury the dead children and this uniformed = standard way didn’t change from foundation date till the day they were defeated by the Romans. Why am I saying that? = it’s because we found the same stereotyped method of burial in all 3 strata. This is an indication the Carthaginians buried these children the same way from early times, until it was destroyed and taken by the Romans.

Here is the interesting part = no knife marks on the bones of the children. The bones only had burn marks on them. This is important.

Another interesting part is the masks found with the remains = ashes + burned bones of the children. Here we have 2 theories but I think both of them are correct at the same time:

1 – Do you remember the faceless child on the stele on page 1 566? I am in the mindset that child was an premature child or a child whom is born before he was formed in the womb. This is why there are no facial features depicted on the stele, like how it was for the priest holding the infant. For anons to understand me better, I’m attaching a picture of the transformation of a premature child to a “matured” child. I’ve taken the picture from this article, be free to check it out if you are interested: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/baby-premature-transformation-23-weeks-pregnant-mary-parkins-grace-a8289096.html

Please study carefully the facial feature of baby Grace when she was born prematurely. Can you see distinctly her facial features before she grew up a bit? The answer is a NO. So one of the theories we have is that at least some of the children buried with masks of clay or glass paste were born prematurely with no distinct facial features. The masks were added to be able to “identify” the child. You think I’m crazy with this “identification” theory I just presented anons? Then ask yourselves why did the Ancient Egyptians mummify their dead? = so that the soul of the dead would be able to identify the body. Read a bit about it and research this and don’t forget the close links between Ancient Egypt and Phoenicia.

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623571  No.14982395

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>>14982340

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2 – There is a custom in Carthage’s cemetery to find the buried wearing mostly clay masks, which were making “funny” faces. It was believed that the “grimaces” of the masks were supposed to “scare away” tomb robbers and evil spirits. This is why they were buried with “funny” masks of clay. I’m attaching pictures as samples for anons, to give you an idea what I’m talking about. So there is a possibility, this practice could have been done also to the dead buried in the Tophet of Carthage. As in the still-born or early born children would have also been buried with “ridiculous” looking masks = sporting a “grimace” in order to scare away evil spirits or scare away tomb robbers.

As I said before, I think both of the theories, combined, are correct. Or each individually is also correct. I mean no matter how I flip this and try to see it from another angle, the result is the same for me = I reach the same conclusion which is that the parent cared for the child he was burying. Either it’s option 1 as in the child had no facial features and the parents were worried the soul wouldn’t be able to recognize the body after death, so they provided a mask for the infant. This projects the care and worry for the infant and his soul by the parent. They were worried what would become of the soul of their dead child. Or if it’s option 2, here again, this projects worry by the parents that evil spirits would attack the body and the soul of the dead child – or robbers would vandalize the burial. So the parents wanted to scare both the robbers and the evil spirits away from the remains of their dead child, thus providing protection for their child after it died.

This projects the care and the love from the parents towards that child and in the same time it shatters the claims from the Greek and Roman sources, mostly from Plutarch (if my memory is not betraying me) that the Carthaginians substituted their own children by children they bought = maybe as slave children, to be sacrificed instead of their own children. If this was the case, then you don’t care about a slave child you brought to sacrifice instead of your own child, right?

The level of love, worry, sadness and care projected from these burials = from the urns, to the offerings, to the steles, to the masks etc, is simply huge anons. You have no idea just how costly this is back in the days. If this was a substitute slave child being sacrificed then the Carthaginians spent loads of money, time and efforts to burry basically what was treated as a commodity back then = a slave. Do you do that for a slave back in the days? Do you care so much about him that you want to make sure his soul reaches that beam of light? That’s why you draw on his burial stele the beam I’ve talked about before? Do you worry so much that a slave’s soul won’t recognize its own body, that why you burry him with a mask? Why worry about a nobody slave you just bought like a chicken from the market to sacrifice a bit later to Tanit?

Because this is nothing but pure fabrication and a lie from Plutarch. This is not what archaeology is telling us. Every single detail in the burial, mostly in the WAY = METHOD of burial is indicating a lot of care, time and money were spent on each and every single burial in that cemetery. But let’s keep on insisting the Phoenicians/Carthaginians sacrificed their own children so the Jews and their lies won’t be exposed. Of course, we don’t want to discredit the Greeks and the Romans as well since they were never biased in their writings against their enemies at all.

« Les fouilles ont permis de caractériser les diverses périodes d'utilisation du tophet, passant d'une influence égyptienne à un style hellénistique : La première, dite Tanit I (750 av. J.-C.-600 av. J.-C.) présente des cippes et bétyles de grès, les urnes étant déposées dans des anfractuosités du sol natif avec également un cippe-trône de grès. La période dite Tanit II (Ve siècle av. J.-C.-IIIe siècle av. J.-C.) présente une sous-section, le cippe-trône est encore présent à Tanit II-a mais, à Tanit II-b, il est remplacé par des stèles de calcaire. La dernière période d'usage du site, Tanit III (IIIe siècle av. J.-C.-146 av. J.-C.), présente des stèles de calcaire (IIe siècle av. J.-C.) fines avec acrotères, riches parfois en décorations sculptées selon des motifs divers.»

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138b85  No.14989780

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>>14982395

(Please read from the start)

“The excavations have made it possible to characterize the various periods of use of the tophet, passing from an Egyptian influence to a Hellenistic style14: The first, known as Tanit I (750 BC-600 B.C.) presents sandstone cippus and betyls, the urns being placed in crevices of the native soil with also a sandstone cippe-throne. The so-called Tanit II period (5th century BC - 3rd century BC) presents a subsection, the cippe-throne is still present in Tanit II-a but, in Tanit II- b, it is replaced by limestone stelae. The last period of use of the site, Tanit III (3rd century BC-146 BC), presents fine limestone stelae (2nd century BC) with acroterions, sometimes rich in decorations carved according to various reasons."

>>Here we have a nice explanation on how the findings were put into categories according to the strata and style. They are also informing us there is Ancient Egyptian as well as Greek artistic influence on the steles and cippe-thrones, which indicates migration occurred = as in an Ancient Egyptian community and a Greek community lived in Carthage. These migrants brought their art, culture with them, which blended with the local ones. It’s normal to see this mostly when you have migrants and trades = exchange of demographics and culture taking place.

Also did anyone notice the date given to the oldest findings in the oldest stratum? = 750 B.C. So it was not from the get go = foundation of Carthage = 814 B.C. but around 60 years later that we started to have the first of this type of burial in Carthage. Amazing how such detail is not mentioned at all by the Phoenician haters. So does this mean the Phoenician founders of Carthage didn’t sacrifice any children at all for around 60 years after the foundation of the City? Or….is this an indication of the demographic composition of the city? As in a certain group or category of people migrated to the city 60 years after its foundation and it’s with the arrival of THAT group we started to have premature births and still-born and early childhood deaths. I know what I’m talking about anons. My old readers must have picked up by now what I’m pointing to. I will be explaining all of this and why I’m saying these words. For now, please think about it.

«Types de motifs présents sur les stèles

Ces signes se trouvent particulièrement sur les stèles tardives, les stèles des premières catégories étant signifiantes de par leurs formes des influences s'exerçant, en particulier égyptiennes. »

«Types of patterns on the stelae

These signs are found particularly on the late stelae, the stelae of the first categories being significant by their forms of the influences being exerted, in particular Egyptian.”

>>This is another indicator of the presence of migrants from Ancient Egypt (as mentioned many times before) during the earliest time after the foundation of Carthage.

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138b85  No.14989794

>>14989780

(Please read from the start)

« On y trouve de nombreux symboles religieux, dont le signe de Tanit ou plutôt dit de Tanit, longtemps considéré comme propre aux Phéniciens du bassin occidental de la Méditerranée, mais dont des exemples ont été découverts dans les fouilles réalisées au Liban actuel. Le signe de la bouteille est également fort présen, ce signe ayant pu être identifié à la déesse-mère présente de façon immémorielle dans le bassin méditerranéen. Les signes astraux, lune et soleil, sont également représentés et parfois entrecroisés en une rosace ; ces signes sont des symboles d'éternité. »

“There are many religious symbols there, including the sign of Tanit or rather said of Tanit, long considered specific to the Phoenicians of the western Mediterranean basin, but examples of which have been discovered in excavations carried out in present-day Lebanon. The sign of the bottle is also very present, this sign having been able to be identified with the goddess-mother present in an immemorial way in the Mediterranean basin. The astral signs, moon and sun, are also represented and sometimes crossed in a rosette; these signs are symbols of eternity. "

>> Yes, the symbol of Tanit was found in Lebanon, just like it was found in a lot of other places all around the Med Sea. This is not something notable or does it indicate the cult of Tanit started there. There are just a few examples of her cult in Lebanon, these were rare cases and from late dates. Which goddess-mother are they talking about here? Is it the Queen of queens = Neith? Or is it the Queen of Demons = the Evil Lady? Or maybe it’s the mixture of both as when the younger generation mixed them both and confused their identities = merging both the Queen of queens and the Evil Lady together?

“Sur les stèles tardives, une ornementation figurative se fait jour : on y trouve des animaux (éléphants), des éléments végétaux (palmiers), des humains, tels une main ouverte, des portraits laissant transparaître l'influence hellénique et bien évidemment des représentations d'hommes dans l'intégralité (scène du prêtre avec l'enfant) et des éléments marins (bateau). Ce métissage de traits sémitiques et d'apports externes est surtout net à partir du moment où Carthage a des contacts avec le monde grec, en particulier avec la Sicile. »

“On the late stelae, a figurative ornamentation emerges: there are animals (elephants), plant elements (palm trees), humans, like an open hand, portraits revealing the Hellenic influence and of course representations of 'men in their entirety (scene of the priest with the child) and marine elements (boat). This interbreeding of Semitic traits and external contributions is especially clear from the moment when Carthage has contact with the Greek world, in particular with Sicily.”

>> We already know there was a Greek community in Carthage. This is not simply a cultural exchange. We’ve already seen a few samples of the “hand” symbol before, and we’ve already talked about the stele where a priest is depicted holding an infant.

« Épigraphie punique

Les stèles sont parfois gravées d'inscriptions du même type mais qui laissent apparaître le tophet comme « un sanctuaire d'expression populaire et de piété fervente ».

Soit les dédicants formulent un vœu, soit ils remercient de la réalisation de celui-ci : « À la grande dame Tanit Péné Ba'al et au seigneur Baal Hammon, ce qu'a offert [un tel], fils d'[un tel], qu'ils [Ba'al] ou qu'elle [Tanit] entende[nt] sa voix et le bénisse[nt] ». Les inscriptions sont stéréotypées en un « formulaire désespérément sec et répétitif »

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138b85  No.14989804

>>14989794

(Please read from the start)

«Punic epigraphy

The stelae are sometimes engraved with inscriptions of the same type but which reveal the tophet as "a sanctuary of popular expression and fervent piety".

Either the dedicators formulate a wish, or they thank for the realization of this one: "To the great lady Tanit Péné Ba'al and to the lord Baal Hammon, what offered [such a], son of [such a ], that they [Ba'al] or that she [Tanit] hear [s] his voice and bless him ". Entries are stereotyped into a "hopelessly dry and repetitive form."

>> We’ve already talked about this and explained it.

« Occupation romaine du site

À l'époque romaine, le site est réutilisé : les fondations d'un temple dédié à Saturne sont découvertes dans les fouilles, de nombreuses fondations d'édifices ultérieurs ayant percé les couches archéologiques. Sont également visibles sur le site des piles des fondations romaines, à l'endroit du tophet qui fut fouillé par Pierre Cintas, des ateliers d'artisans (potiers) et des hangars, ainsi que des maisons ayant livré des mosaïques dont une mosaïque des Saisons actuellement au musée du Bardo.

Le site actuel est un élément important de la visite de la Carthage antique bien que la mise en scène constitue une présentation hétéroclite de stèles appartenant à diverses époques, surtout les plus anciennes. Ne sont exposées pratiquement que des stèles de grès d'El Haouaria mais on trouve cependant quelques stèles de calcaire plus tardives dans la partie voûtée. »

«Roman occupation of the site

In Roman times, the site is reused: the foundations of a temple dedicated to Saturn are discovered in excavations, many foundations of later buildings having pierced the archaeological layers. Are also visible on the site of the piles of the Roman foundations, at the place of the tophet which was excavated by Pierre Cintas, workshops of craftsmen (potters) and sheds, as well as houses having delivered mosaics including a mosaic of the Seasons currently in the Bardo museum.

The current site is an important element of the visit of ancient Carthage although the setting in scene constitutes a motley presentation of stelae belonging to various periods, especially the oldest ones. Almost only sandstone stelae from El Haouaria are on display, but there are, however, some later limestone stelae in the vaulted part.”

>> It’s obvious which cult the Roman brought to Carthage.

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138b85  No.14989813

>>14989804

(Please read from the start)

«Questions autour de l'interprétation du site

Sources antiques

Sources à charge

Les sources anciennes qui évoquent les rites religieux des Puniques sont grecques et latines. Diodore de Sicile les évoque longuement à propos de l'attaque de Carthage par Agathocle, tyran de Syracuse : « Ils [les Carthaginois] estimèrent que Kronos aussi leur était hostile, en raison de ce qu'eux, qui auparavant sacrifiaient à ce dieu les meilleurs de leurs fils, s'étaient mis à acheter secrètement des enfants qu'ils nourrissaient puis envoyaient au sacrifice. Après enquête, on découvrit que certains des [enfants] sacrifiés avaient été substitués. Considérant ces choses et voyant l'ennemi [l'armée d'Agathocle] campé devant les murs, ils éprouvaient une crainte religieuse à l'idée d'avoir ruiné les honneurs traditionnels dus aux dieux. Brûlant du désir de réparer leurs errements, ils choisirent deux cents enfants des plus considérés et les sacrifièrent au nom de l'État. D'autres, contre qui on murmurait, se livrèrent volontairement ; ils n'étaient pas moins de trois cents. Il y avait chez eux [à Carthage] une statue de Kronos en bronze, les mains étendues, la paume en haut, et penchées vers le sol, en sorte que l'enfant qui y était placé roulait et tombait dans une fosse pleine de feu ».

«Questions about the interpretation of the site

Ancient sources

Dependent sources

The ancient sources which evoke the religious rites of the Punics are Greek and Latin. Diodorus of Sicily evokes them at length about the attack on Carthage by Agathocles, tyrant of Syracuse: best of their sons, had begun to secretly buy children whom they fed and then sent to sacrifice. Upon investigation, it was discovered that some of the sacrificed [children] had been substituted. Considering these things and seeing the enemy [the army of Agathocles] encamped in front of the walls, they felt a religious fear at the idea of having ruined the traditional honors due to the gods. Burning with the desire to correct their mistakes, they chose two hundred children of the most esteemed and sacrificed them in the name of the State. Others, against whom they murmured, surrendered voluntarily; they were no less than three hundred. There was a bronze statue of Kronos in their house [in Carthage], with his hands extended, palm up, and bent towards the ground, so that the child who was placed there rolled over and fell into a pit full of fire. "

>> Not a single archaeological find in Carthage supports the idea of a mass sacrifice taking place = as in hundreds of children were sacrifice at the same time, in the same place, at the same go.

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138b85  No.14989829

>>14989813

(Please read from the start)

« Denys d'Halicarnasse évoque les supposés sacrifices humains dans son Antiquités romaines (I, 38, 2) : « On dit que les Anciens sacrifiaient à Cronos à la façon dont cela se passait à Carthage tant que dura la cité ». Porphyre de Tyr, dans De l'abstinence (II, 56, 1) énonce que « les Phéniciens, lors des grandes calamités que sont les guerres, les épidémies ou les sécheresses, sacrifiaient une victime prise parmi les êtres qu'ils chérissaient le plus et qu'ils désignaient par un vote comme victime offerte à Cronos ».

«Dionysius of Halicarnassus evokes the supposed human sacrifices in his Roman Antiquities (I, 38, 2): "It is said that the Ancients sacrificed to Cronos in the way it happened in Carthage as long as the city lasted". Porphyry of Tyre, in “On abstinence” (II, 56, 1) states that "the Phoenicians, during the great calamities of wars, epidemics or droughts, sacrificed a victim taken from among the beings they cherished the most. And that they designated by a vote as the victim offered to Cronos ”.

>> I don’t know if the translation of the Denys to Dionysius is correct here. Anyone apart me noticed the word “supposed” being used here?

Also there is a point that I don’t understand from what Porphyry said: According to him children are picked in a time of crisis among the MOST CHERISHED. Don’t you think that is odd anons? Here, he says they VOTE to pick the victim. So how am I supposed to understand this? Only the family members of a person would cherish them. I won’t be expecting the governor or the general of the army to cherish the child of a citizen, I bet they don’t even know them personally. So in order to cherish someone, you gotta to know him/her personally and it’s gotta be someone precious which only occurs when there are family ties there. A stranger, a neighbor or a fellow citizen from the same city won’t cherish other people’s children. People only cherish their own family, not strangers.

So is he saying that each family present a cherished person and that they group these cherished persons and vote on whom should be sacrificed? Is that it? Did I understand Porphyry right? If this is true – if this turns out to be true, I never knew that there is a democratic vote in the selection of child sacrifice. Do you even imagine the ridicule of this idea? Is that how it used to work? = let’s get an honest, fair vote to select a sacrificial victim….and amazingly, according to Porphyry, this is done during a time of great crisis. According to him the Carthaginians are upholding a democratic vote during a period of CRISIS.

If this turns out to be true, then the Carthaginians are truly amazing. I mean just look how incredible they are to be able to have a democratic, fair vote during a time of crisis where despair and panic should be master of the scene. I’m confused, I don’t know if I should cry or laugh at the ridicule of these claims of Porphyry. I think here Porphyry is projecting his ideology and giving his own personal opinion on this without any substantial, physical proof in his pocessions. He is a Neo-Platonism philosopher and he is projecting his ideology about democracy here; as in trying to make them fit together with the idea of child sacrifice. This is extremely biased here anons. And nothing about his words makes sense when you examine them carefully. I will leave it to you if you want to believe this or not.

«Plutarque met en accusation dans De la superstition (XIII) les parents qui n'auraient pas fait preuve de piété envers les enfants : « C'est en pleine conscience et connaissance que les Carthaginois offraient leurs enfants, et ceux qui n'en avaient pas achetaient ceux des pauvres comme des agneaux ou de jeunes oiseaux, tandis que la mère se tenait à côté sans larmes et sans gémissements. Si elle gémissait ou pleurait, elle devait perdre le prix de la vente et l'enfant n'en était pas moins sacrifié ; cependant, tout l'espace devant la statue était rempli du son des flûtes et des tambours afin qu'on ne pût entendre les cris ».

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6f2c42  No.14996551

>>14989829

(Please read from the start)

«Plutarch accuses in On Superstition (XIII) the parents who would not have shown piety towards the children: "It is in full awareness and knowledge that the Carthaginians offered their children, and those who did not have any. bought those of the poor like lambs or young birds, while the mother stood beside it without tears and moans. If she moaned or cried, she had to lose the price of the sale and the child was nonetheless sacrificed; however, the whole space in front of the statue was filled with the sound of flutes and drums so that the cries could not be heard”.

>> According to Plutarch the sounds of flutes and drums were there to cover the sounds of the cries and the screams. I’ve already talked a bit about the instruments on the Tophet site of Jerusalem. The contradiction of how the Carthaginians sacrificed their cherished ones, and now they bought the children of others = not cherished – is truly amazing. This is another indication to how these “tales” contradicts one another as we’ve already seen this before. This reflects the high level of bias and the huge amount of slander thrown at the Phoenicians/Carthaginians by their enemies. If you want to believe the words of Plutarch or not is up to you.

«Plus tardivement, Tertullien, dans l'Apologétique, considère que « des enfants étaient immolés publiquement à Saturne, en Afrique, jusqu'au proconsulat de Tibère, qui fit exposer les prêtres mêmes de ce dieu, attachés vivants aux arbres mêmes de son temple, qui couvraient ces crimes de leur ombre, comme à autant de croix votives : je prends à témoin mon père qui, comme soldat, exécuta cet ordre du proconsul. Mais, aujourd'hui encore, ce criminel sacrifice continue en secret »

«Later, Tertullian, in the Apologetics, considers that “children were publicly immolated to Saturn, in Africa, until the proconsulate of Tiberius, who had the very priests of this god exposed, attached alive to the very trees of his temple, who covered these crimes with their shadow, as with so many votive crosses: I call my father to witness who, as a soldier, carried out this order of the proconsul. But, even today, this criminal sacrifice continues in secret.”

« Silence d'autres sources majeures

Face à ces textes accablants, il faut signaler le silence d'autres historiens, notamment quand il s'agit de sources majeures pour l'histoire antique tels qu'Hérodote, Thucydide, Polybe ou Tite-Live, Lancel indique que « [ce] silence […] détonne fortement dans le concert des accusations d'impiété et de perfidie qui sont, chez les auteurs classiques, le lot habituel des Carthaginois ». Une pareille absence serait porteuse de sens selon ce spécialiste, ces auteurs antiques signalant toute attitude qui leur semblait choquante par rapport aux pratiques ordinaires de leurs cultures grecque ou latine. »

«Silence from other major sources

Faced with these overwhelming texts, it is necessary to point out the silence of other historians, especially when it comes to major sources for ancient history such as Herodotus, Thucydides, Polybius or Livy, Lancel indicates that “[this] silence […] stands out strongly in the concert of accusations of impiety and perfidy which are, among classical authors, the usual lot of the Carthaginians ”. Such an absence would be meaningful according to this specialist, these ancient authors indicating any attitude which seemed shocking to them in relation to the ordinary practices of their Greek or Latin culture.”

>> Some interpret the silence of Major Ancient Historians such as Herodotus as being a sign of confirmation that the Phoenicians/Carthaginians practiced human sacrifice. They say that these ancient writers were too ashamed or even too horrified to even mention such things, that’s why they never wrote about them. The truth is we really don’t know why these ancient writers didn’t write about the Phoenicians/Carthaginians practicing human sacrifice. It could be anything, starting by they were not interested in the subject, or they didn’t want to report a falsehood etc. It would be anything = any reason. If I have to pick between Herodotus or Plutarch, I pick Herodotus. He turned out to be more truthful than Plutarch despite the fact that he exaggerates with the numbers he provides. In general, his writings are, up to a big percentage, more accurate than what others wrote. Sure he is not perfect, he makes mistakes, but I’m saying he is better in reporting things than the others.

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6f2c42  No.14996564

>>14996551

(Please read from the start)

«Historiographie du débat

Gustave Flaubert dans son roman Salammbô publié en 1862 évoque la sinistre divinité Moloch qui fait « de l'autodafé de nouveau-nés une pratique courante à Carthage. Dès cette époque, des voix s'élèvent contre cette interprétation de sources hostiles aux Carthaginois, dont celle de Charles-Augustin Sainte-Beuve. »

«Historiography of the debate

Gustave Flaubert in his novel Salammbô published in 1862 evokes the sinister divinity Moloch who makes “the burning of newborns a common practice in Carthage. From that time, voices were raised against this interpretation of sources hostile to the Carthaginians, including that of Charles-Augustin Sainte-Beuve."

>> It’s good they are admitting there are « sources hostile to the Carthaginians ». And just take a look since when they started to push this narrative = Phoenicians sacrifice children to Moloch. As if it’s not enough the ancient Bloodlines and their cronies used slander to destroy the image of the Phoenicians/Carthaginians in Antiquity; then they restarted to do the same in the 19th century = excellent way to brainwash the public and push forward the narrative of the Evil Clan. Remember, back then = in Antiquity & in the 19th century, there were no internet, no t.v., no radio, no computers etc. And not everyone could read. So this is done on purpose = if you control the printing press, the writers and the preachers, you can control public opinion.

«Le site du sanctuaire de Tanit est dénommé Salammbô dans la topographie de la ville moderne de Carthage, dans la lignée de Flaubert, et le sanctuaire lui-même dénommé « tophet », terme hébreu (tpt) très connoté en faveur de l'interprétation des sacrifices des enfants. James Germain Février prend parti pour l'interprétation en faveur du sacrifice des enfants : « C'est la nuit !… La scène semble éclairée seulement par un brasier allumé dans la fosse sacrée, le tophet : on en voit les reflets plutôt que la lueur […] Le père et la mère sont présents. Ils remettent le bébé à un prêtre qui s'avance le long de la fosse, égorge l'enfant de façon mystérieuse […] puis place la petite victime sur les mains étendues de la statue divine, d'où elle roule dans le brasier ». Charles Saumagne met en garde ses contemporains dès 1922 contre une interprétation dans ce sens, considérant qu'« il importe, avant d'avancer la chose, même à titre d'hypothèse, de connaître parfaitement la fouille dans ses détails ».

«The site of the Tanit sanctuary is called Salammbô in the topography of the modern city of Carthage, in the line of Flaubert, and the sanctuary itself called "tophet", a Hebrew term (tpt) very connoted in favor of the interpretation of child sacrifices. James Germain February takes sides with the interpretation in favor of the sacrifice of children: "It's night! … The scene seems lit only by a brazier lit in the sacred pit, the tophet: we see the reflections rather than the light […] The father and the mother are present. They give the baby to a priest who walks along the pit, slaughters the child in a mysterious way […] then places the little victim on the outstretched hands of the divine statue, from where it rolls in the pit. blaze ”. Charles Saumagne warned his contemporaries from 1922 against an interpretation in this direction, considering that "it is important, before putting forward the matter, even as a hypothesis, to know perfectly the excavation in its details".

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6f2c42  No.14996613

>>14996564

(Please read from the start)

>> The site was called according to what the enemies of the Phoenicians called them. Flaubert was a paid author with an agenda, and he’s a very influential French novelist – just check out his life to understand how libertad he was. As for naming the burial ground Tophet, it was because the Jews said so ^_~ see how it works? I used the word Tophet too to point to that place. When I use necropolis or burial, no one understand what I’m pointing and they think I’m talking about the “adult” = or the other necropolis where people above 5 years old were buried. In this burial ground we are talking about, all the people buried here are aged 5 years and less.

And the heck did James Germain Février know how the “supposed” ritual of child sacrifice was performed by the Phoenicians? Did he time travel by any chance? Does he have remote viewing? Or psychic abilities maybe? Because from all of my years in archaeology, and my old teacher before me, we never figure out how the ritual was performed. No one does. All we know is from the Bible, and it simply says there was passage through the fire. Nothing else. We saw that while taking a look at the Tophet page in Wikipedia in this thread. I didn’t bore anons with all of that reading just for nothing. It’s for you to understand how (((they))) are playing with your minds. How (((they))) are distorting things and facts by bringing out the “experts” or (((their))) writers, thinkers, philosophers and opinion givers etc. It’s like what we have nowadays with these stupid fact checkers for the news. Anons understand what I mean here.

This Germain Février guy, how did he know all of these details? Was he there himself? Did he witness any of this? How did he know the Phoenicians supposedly slaughtered the child? From where did he get this detail? – We never found any knife marks or trauma marks on the skeletons in Motherland Phoenicia nor in the colonies, including Carthage. We found no ceremonial altar. We found no irrigation to clear the blood from the slaughter. We found no ceremonial knife. Nothing, we found nothing. All we have in Carthage is a pile of ashes, and bones with no traces on them and a lot of care given to them, and money spent to bury these children.

I think the details given by Germain Février are correct, but he is not describing a Phoenician sacrificial scene. He is describing a sacrificial scene from the Bloodline which was projected onto the Phoenicians to slander them, to make them look like monsters and to destroy their public image. This is what is the most important thing for the Bloodlines and no one understands this = destroying the public image of the Phoenicians is the lifelong goal of the Bloodlines. For centuries the Jews = the clan of the Bloodlines, and the Bloodlines themselves, have done their outmost best to pin false accusations on the Phoenicians. (((They))) did (((their))) best to pin (((their))) twisted practices and crimes onto the ones (((they))) hate the most = the Phoenicians. No one notices this. And no one asks/wonders why. We did. And we went looking for answers.

I’m not an expert, but….isn’t a small watermelon almost the same size as an infant? Anons should be wondering what I’m talking about. Well, I’ve said before that sometimes (depending on the case) we verify things by redoing ourselves the experiment. So if I built a pyre, put it on fire and I throw in there a watermelon of the same weight and if possible size of an infant, just as this James Germain Février is describing….what will happen? What will happen to the firewood if you throw from a height something heavy in it? How will the debris splatter? We certainly don’t want those standing close by, like the priest, to have his clothing burnt down. If you don’t want it to splatter the ambers, then you gotta throw it in at a low height, right? So how close were the hands of the statue of Moloch to the fire in order for the infants to fall in and not splatter hot wood debris and ashes everywhere? And if the statue of Moloch’s hands was so close to the fire of the pyre….then, what would happen to it if it was made of metal? Or if it was made of stone? Is it just me or things don’t add up here? Whom is paying Germain Février?

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6f2c42  No.14996621

>>14996613

(Please read from the start)

«Débats actuels

Il ne s'agit pas là que de rappeler que les sacrifices humains, « acte(s) de profonde piété », étaient fort répandus et particulièrement lors de périodes de troubles ou de difficultés. La mythologie se fait l'écho de cette pratique au travers du mythe d'Iphigénie et on se contentera de rappeler qu'à Rome même, en 216 av. J.-C., on sacrifia un couple de Gaulois et un couple de Grecs sur le Forum Boarium, sacrifice relaté par Tite-Live dans son Histoire de Rome depuis sa fondation :

« Cependant, sur l'indication des livres du Destin, on fit plusieurs sacrifices extraordinaires : entre autres, un Gaulois et une Gauloise, un Grec et une Grecque furent enterrés vivants au marché aux bœufs, dans un endroit clos de pierres, arrosé déjà auparavant du sang de victimes humaines, cérémonie religieuse bien peu romaine. »

«Current debates

This is not just a reminder that human sacrifices, "act (s) of deep piety", were very widespread and particularly during times of trouble or difficulty. Mythology echoes this practice through the myth of Iphigenia and we will be content to recall that in Rome itself, in 216 BC. AD, a couple of Gauls and a couple of Greeks were sacrificed on the Forum Boarium, a sacrifice recounted by Livy in his History of Rome since its foundation:

“However, on the indication of the books of Destiny, several extraordinary sacrifices were made: among others, a Gaul and a Gaul, a Greek and a Greek were buried alive at the oxen market, in a closed place of stones, already watered before. The blood of human victims, a religious ceremony that was hardly Roman."

>> This was never mentioned by all of the Greek and Roman ancient scholars. What you are reading here is just a sample. Human sacrifice was practiced at a very large scale and openly during the Roman Empire. Do I need to remind you what they did to the early Christians in the Coliseum? I’m sure (((they))) will tell you all of those are fables ^_~ the hypocrisy of some is sky high.

« Déjà, dès la découverte du tophet, et face aux affirmations et interprétations qui étaient conjectures, Charles Saumagne s'indignait. Le débat a toujours été vif, les recherches successives ne permettant pas encore de trancher le débat de façon définitive. Les historiens de l'Antiquité s'affrontaient encore récemment, du fait des conclusions de l'équipe américaine de l'ASOR. Selon Lawrence Stager, « l'analyse des contenus et le contexte archéologique, ainsi que la reconsidération des sources écrites […] démontrent sans aucun doute que le sacrifice des enfants était pratiqué à Carthage depuis au moins 750 av. J.-C. jusqu'à la destruction de la ville ». Le même auteur souligne qu'« à Carthage, le sacrifice d'enfant n'avait pas une dimension religieuse mais aussi des aspects sociaux et économiques […] L'infanticide semblait moins hasardeux pour la santé de la mère que l'avortement d'un fœtus ; de plus, cette pratique permettait aux parents de réguler les naissances et d'effectuer une sélection par le sexe. Parmi l'élite économique de Carthage, l'institution religieuse du sacrifice d'enfants peut avoir été utilisée par les familles riches pour consolider et maintenir leur fortune en leur permettant de modérer le nombre d'héritiers mâles entre lesquels l'héritage aurait dû être partagé ainsi que le nombre de filles à doter au moment de leur mariage ». Ennabli et Slim adhèrent à cette thèse du « sacrifice de leur progéniture aux divinités protectrices de la cité », citant même des éléments de l'ouvrage de Flaubert, la « terrible réalité du rite » étant établie selon leur ouvrage de 1993. »

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a41e70  No.15002744

>>14996621

(Please read from the start)

«Already, as soon as the tophet was discovered, and faced with the assertions and interpretations which were conjectures, Charles Saumagne was indignant. The debate has always been lively, successive research not yet making it possible to settle the debate definitively. The historians of Antiquity clashed until recently, because of the conclusions of the American team of the ASOR. According to Lawrence Stager, “the analysis of the contents and the archaeological context, as well as the reconsideration of the written sources […] show without any doubt that the sacrifice of the children was practiced in Carthage since at least 750 av. AD until the destruction of the city ”. The same author underlines that “in Carthage, child sacrifice did not have a religious dimension but also social and economic aspects […] Infanticide seemed less hazardous for the health of the mother than abortion. of a fetus; in addition, this practice allowed parents to regulate births and perform sex selection. Among the economic elite of Carthage, the religious institution of child sacrifice may have been used by wealthy families to consolidate and maintain their fortunes by allowing them to moderate the number of male heirs between whom the inheritance should have been. shared as well as the number of daughters to be endowed at the time of their marriage ”. Ennabli and Slim adhere to this thesis of "the sacrifice of their offspring to the protective deities of the city", even citing elements of Flaubert's work, the "terrible reality of the rite" being established according to their 1993 work.”

>> « Already, as soon as the tophet was discovered, and faced with the assertions and interpretations which were conjectures” = doesn’t this say it all. As soon as the discovery of the tophet surfaced, everyone grabbed the torches and the pitchforks and started attacking. The scale of it was HUGE and it was well coordinated.

«Sabatino Moscati affirme pour sa part que « le tophet, aire sacrée dédiée aux deux divinités suprêmes Tanit et Ba'al Hammon, était le lieu où étaient brûlés et, par la suite ensevelis dans des urnes, des enfants morts-nés ou morts peu après leur naissance. Les tombes des très jeunes enfants qu'on ne trouve pas dans les nécropoles se trouvent en réalité dans le tophet. Le sanctuaire abritait ainsi les restes de ceux qui, morts trop tôt, étaient exclus de la société des adultes et de leurs nécropoles. Là, ils étaient voués ou offerts à la divinité en étant incinérés de façon rituelle ». Le tophet est donc perçu comme un « hybride de sanctuaire et de nécropole », les jeunes enfants étant inhumés dans le même lieu qui connaît des « sacrifices humains occasionnels comme chez beaucoup de peuples de cette époque ». Car le sacrifice pouvait être exceptionnellement pratiqué dans des circonstances particulièrement graves selon Michel Gras. »

«Sabatino Moscati affirms for his part that "the tophet, sacred area dedicated to the two supreme deities Tanit and Ba'al Hammon, was the place where were burned and, subsequently buried in urns, stillborn or dead children shortly after. their birth. The graves of very young children that are not found in necropolises are actually in the tophet. The sanctuary thus housed the remains of those who, having died too early, were excluded from the society of adults and their necropolises. There, they were dedicated or offered to the divinity by being cremated in a ritual way ”. The tophet is therefore perceived as a "hybrid of sanctuary and necropolis", young children being buried in the same place which experiences "occasional human sacrifices as in many peoples of that time". Because sacrifice could be practiced exceptionally in particularly serious circumstances according to Michel Gras.”

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a41e70  No.15002766

>>15002744

(Please read from the start)

>> As I’ve said before, I’m with Moscati with him saying this is a burial = a cemetery for children whom died before they matured, are still-born or whom died before reaching 5 years of age. In the necropolis of Carthage, you will find the children (above 5), the teens and the adults buried there. Here, in what is called the Tophet, you will find the one whom were born prematurely, those whom died during child birth, the still-born and those whom died before reaching the age of 5; some even died a few days or weeks after birth.

But I disagree with Moscati on the issue that these children were offered as a sacrifice to the deity of the inscription after they were originally dead. I don’t think they were offered as a sacrifice, but the souls and spirits of the children were put under the care of the deity so that it would protect them in the afterlife and it would guide them towards the beam of light so they could go to Heaven.

Don’t get me wrong here anons. I’m not saying here Tanit or Baal Hammon were good deities. We simply don’t know what the cult was about and after my discovery after coming to this place, I didn’t have time to recheck, re-evaluate whom they are truly, for real, Tanit and Baal Hammon. Since then, I’ve been working on putting this thread together for anons, and as I’ve declared before, I’m blocked in some areas, not advancing in some, while making strides in others. If I have time left at the end of this huge dig, I will come back and work on this.

The biggest hurdle my side had = the side whom believe the Phoenician didn’t practice human sacrifice because there is no tangible evidence supporting the accusations – was that we were unable to explain how such a large number of infant died in one City. We know it’s not religious, ritualistic sacrifice because there are no tangible, physical proofs it was. The existence of the Tophet itself cannot be considered as proof against the Phoenicians because the Tophet was a cemetery, not a sanctuary as some are pushing forcibly for this theory. The enclosure is enough evidence on its own to indicate this was a burial ground and not a sanctuary. Loads of details of the sort, we just reviewed most of them in this thread already, are all pointing this is a simple children cemetery and no infant sacrifice took place here.

What baffled us is the reason for this large number for children deaths. This is why Sabatino opted to say that the children were offered as sacrifice after their death and not killed for sacrifice. He knows, just like me, there is nothing tangible supporting that a ritualistic sacrifice of children took place in that spot. And he knows just like me that the ancient sources, either Greek or Roman, lied to their eye balls and slandered the Phoenicians on purpose because they were enemies; while the hypocrites didn’t write about the human sacrifice practices taking place in their homelands. But Sabatino also couldn’t explain, just like me and my teacher, the large number of dead children buried in that place. This is why he went half way in, half way out. As I said many times, I finally found it after coming to this board. Now thanks to Qteam and anons digging I understand what the ritual was about. And thanks to Potus and Flotus, I understand what was the cause of so many children death in Carthage and in the other similar cemeteries in other locations. Let’s finish with this Wikipedia page and we will start talking about all of this.

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a41e70  No.15002777

>>15002766

(Please read from the start)

«Selon François Decret mais également Michel Gras et ses collègues, un sacrifice de substitution dit « molchomor » (sacrifice de l'agneau) se mit progressivement en place, le sacrifice étant accompli « souffle pour souffle, sang pour sang, vie pour vie » en particulier à l'époque néo-punique qui suit la Troisième guerre punique. La difficulté de cette interprétation concerne l'utilisation d'inscriptions romaines du IIe siècle ainsi que par le constat dans l'analyse du contenu des urnes d'une réduction de la proportion des substitutions au fil du temps. »

«According to François Decret but also Michel Gras and his colleagues, a substitute sacrifice called "molchomor" (sacrifice of the lamb) was gradually put in place, the sacrifice being accomplished "breath for breath, blood for blood, life for life" in particular to the neo-Punic era following the Third Punic War. The difficulty of this interpretation concerns the use of Roman inscriptions from the 2nd century as well as the observation in the analysis of the contents of the urns of a reduction in the proportion of substitutions over time.”

>> I don’t want to repeat myself again and again. Anons, already understand that I don’t agree with what these so called experts are saying.

«Débat qui n'est pas encore tranché par la médecine

Dès la découverte du site, les archéologues ont tenu à mettre en place de véritables analyses médico-légales même si le but inavoué était de trouver une confirmation des assertions des auteurs anciens les plus prolixes sur les Carthaginois. Les analyses ont eu lieu en particulier entre 1947 et 1952 à l'Institut de médecine légale de Lille. »

“Debate that has not yet been decided by medicine

From the discovery of the site, the archaeologists were keen to set up real forensic analyzes even if the unacknowledged goal was to find a confirmation of the assertions of the most prolific ancient authors on the Carthaginians. The analyzes took place in particular between 1947 and 1952 at the Lille Institute of Legal Medicine.”

>> Please anons look at the dates. The French rule over Tunisia ended in 1956. And thanks to the plandemic we have on our hands now, we fully understand whom was running the medical “show” worldwide from behind the curtain and for how long. To put it simple, all the medical analysis done in the “big houses”, by the “big names”, should be redone and rechecked. What are the odds the Bloodlines are manipulating the data behind the scenes? I don’t trust them.

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a41e70  No.15002802

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>>15002777

(Please read from the start)

« Les scientifiques ont procédé à un échantillonnage et ont étudié le contenu des urnes : cette étude a abouti à l'identification d'ossements d'enfants morts très jeunes (maximum trois ans), hormis un cas unique d'enfant d'environ douze ans. En outre, les urnes ont livré des restes de petits animaux, dont des capridés et quelques cas d'oiseaux. On peut constater une évolution dans le temps : alors que les urnes analysées et datées du VIIe siècle av. J.-C. voient parmi elles environ un tiers de substitution, la part de restes de petits animaux est d'une urne sur dix au IVe siècle av. J.-C. »

«The scientists carried out a sampling and studied the contents of the urns: this study resulted in the identification of the bones of children who died very young (maximum three years old), except for a single case of a child of about twelve years old. . In addition, the ballot boxes yielded remains of small animals, including caprids and a few cases of birds. We can see an evolution over time: while the urns analyzed and dated to the 7th century BC. AD see among them about a third of substitution, the share of remains of small animals is one in ten urns in the fourth century BC. J.-C.”

>> I’m no expert, but if there is a miscarriage during the first trimester of pregnancy, will the fetus have bones? Look, I’m not expert, and I’m trying to explain something, so please be a bit patient with me. Take a look at the picture I’m attaching with this page of a fetus in the womb. This is an 8 weeks old fetus. Does this baby have bones when he is that old? And what happens when an unfortunate miscarriage happens when the baby is at such an early development stage to a point where the bones are barely forming and still very tender? What happens with the miscarriage babies? It’s obvious, they used to burn them and the remains with the ashes used to be put in urns; in turn these urns used to be buried. But what happens to the bones of such early stages miscarriage babies? When you cremate the miscarriage baby, will there be any bones burning? This is why I think some of the urns might have contained miscarriage babies at a very early stage of the pregnancy. But once they were cremated, nothing but ashes remained. And the parents made an offering = an animal so that the soul of the baby could rest and reach Heaven. I’m saying that the urns containing only animal bones, might have contained remains of babies miscarriage at very early stage of pregnancy, and because of that, after cremation, no traces of the dead babies were found in the urns. Again, I’m no medical expert, but it’s just a theory of mine.

«L'interprétation de ces analyses pose problème : les résultats des analyses de l'Institut de médecine de Lille ont inquiété, les médecins se refusant de faire des tophets des « nécropoles réservées à des cadavres d'enfants ou de fœtus, ou de nouveau-nés, cadavres incinérés avant l'inhumation ». La médecine est incapable en l'état actuel d'indiquer les raisons des décès et il est impossible de dire « si les enfants incinérés étaient mis vivants sur le bûcher ou bien s'ils étaient déjà décédés de mort naturelle » ; néanmoins il faut rappeler que les nécropoles de Carthage punique n'ont pas livré de tombes de nouveau-nés et Azedine Beschaouch tend vers le fait de faire du tophet le « lieu d'enterrement des fœtus, des enfants mort-nés » qui auraient été incinérés. »

«The interpretation of these analyzes poses a problem: the results of the analyzes of the Institute of Medicine of Lille worried, the doctors refusing to make tophets of “necropolises reserved for corpses of children or fetuses, or again- born, corpses cremated before burial ”. Medicine is unable in the current state to indicate the reasons for the deaths and it is impossible to say "if the cremated children were put alive at the stake or if they had already died of natural death"; nevertheless it should be remembered that the necropolises of Punic Carthage did not yield tombs of newborns and Azedine Beschaouch tends towards the fact of making the tophet the "place of burial of fetuses, stillborn children" who would have been cremated.”

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a41e70  No.15002818

>>15002802

(Please read from the start)

>> Beschaouch is correct. We don’t find any infant and/or very young children buried in the necropolis of Carthage where the adults, teens and children above 5 years old are buried. Beschaouch is correct in what he is saying that this is a burial of fetuses, miscarriage and stillborn children, or children whom died shortly after birth or didn’t make it pass their 5 years of age. And they were cremated, for too many reasons, including avoiding the spread of deceases. What do you do with the remains of a miscarriage 3 months old fetus in the womb? Back then, there were no hospitals taking care of biological parts, like the placenta and other things of the sort. You know what I mean. Nowadays, what are these big hospitals doing with such biological parts? Are they cremating them like they should or are they selling them to big pharma whom is putting them in the medics and vaccines? Back then, in Carthage, what did they do with biological parts like that? Mostly when it’s a living being and not a biological waste like the placenta for example? They had to bury the miscarriage or stillborn children because they were human and not biological waste. Gosh! This is so hard to explain, I’m sorry, I think I’m doing it in a very clumsy way.

The biggest hurdle we faced was the cause of death. What happened for such a big number of infant deaths to occur? We’ve been searching for a long long time to find which illness or decease = an outbreak maybe, killed so many infants. But we never found it. And this gap we have was taken advantage of by the enemies of the Phoenicians/Carthaginians = the Bloodlines and the Jews, to push forward the lies of child sacrifice taking place there, using it to slander both the Carthaginians and the Phoenicians. Accusing them = (((their))) enemies, of the crimes (((they))) ((((themselves)))) commit. Just how on earth did these scholars and writers from ancient times and modern days know about the details of the ritual, while we didn’t know a zit about it = apart there was a passage through fire. See what I mean? They didn’t witness the ritual performed by the Phoenicians/Carthaginians themselves = as in they are not eyewitnesses, so how did they know such details? Unless, they are the ones performing it and pinning the blame onto their enemies = a classical tactic of the Jews and their leaders = the Bloodlines. All of this, and I’m not even going through all the contradiction in the “stories” related to us by all of these scholars and writers – ancient and modern day ones.

This is how we got defeated and we had to shut up because we were unable to find the cause of death of so many infants.

« Pour le tophet de Salammbô, jusqu'à une éventuelle nouvelle découverte, la confrontation des sources écrites et archéologiques reste sujette à débat, la rencontre de sources diverses et convergentes tant attendue par les historiens et les archéologues n'ayant pas eu lieu. »

“This is how we got defeated and we had to shut up because we were unable to find the cause of death of so many infants.”

>> Lucky me finally found it. But when I came out and said what it was, no one believed me, not even anons. When you carry Cassandra’s curse, no one will believe you not matter how much you repeat the truth. And yet, everyone is so eager and willing to believe the lies thrown in our faces for centuries now. The irony of it all.

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a41e70  No.15002844

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>>15002818

(Please read from the start)

Here are links of 2 additional of « children cemeteries » similar to the one in Carthage:

http://siciliasacra.net/scopri/path-and-themes/tophet-of-mozia/?lang=en

https://www.mammasicily.com/sites-of-interest-in-sicily/mozia-and-marsala.html

These are just a quick read, despite not being that good, to give the reader/researcher an idea of the sites and that Carthage was not the only Phoenician colony with such a cemetery.

I’m also going to put an extract taken from the publication of a big shot university: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/abs/aging-cremated-infants-the-problem-of-sacrifice-at-the-tophet-of-carthage/7F572DE957BE72A634867AC52E6BD2E8

“Published online by Cambridge University Press: 02 January 2015

P. Smith , G. Avishai , J.A. Greene and L.E. Stager

Extract

The Greeks and Romans reproached the Phoenicians for the sacrifice of infants, and the excavation of cremated infants at ‘Tophets’ (named after the sacrificial site in Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible) seems to bear this out. However, the argument for infant sacrifice depends largely on a skewed age profile, and age is not easy to determine. The authors approach this problem with a battery of new techniques, showing that in the Tophet of Carthage the majority of the infants died between one and one and a half months. Sacrifice was thus very probable.”

>> See how it works? Do you see how (((their))) system works? And this is done under the patronage of a big place as you can read. Look at the skewed logic written here. Since it’s not easy to determine the age of the victims (according to (((them))) of course), we are not told what these new techniques are which allowed the author to determine that the majority of the infants died between ONE and 1.5 months after birth. This is why sacrifice was very probable. And where are the knife marks on the bones? Where are the ceremonial knives used for the ritual? If you can find ONE, just one with marks or find me one knife, I will shut up, burn my diplomas and eat my glasses. According to this piece of S of writing, because of some unknown method used, they determined most of the infant died within 40 to 50 days after birth. They took this supposed new discovery and claimed it’s proof child sacrifice took place. So simply because we have a high number of infancy death after birth, this is pointing to child sacrifice according to the twisted logic of this writing. If the reader wants to believe this, please remember if you do, it means you are still a sheep.

Let me tell you dear reader that if you feel like your voice has been taken away from you during this plandemic…then… remember this has been done to the Phoenicians as well. (((They))) have taken the voice of the Phoenicians for a very long time, not letting them defend themselves against the slander and the accusation. If you haven’t figured it out yet, (((they))) have been using this technique for centuries now. What did Nancy Pelosy call it again? = the wrap up smear, was it? What if this was a technique, a method used for more than 2000 years to destroy the public image of the enemies of the Jews and their leaders = the Bloodlines? I keep on repeating this over and over. Do you see it? Do you realize the depth of the deceit and lies? We really do live in the Matrix more than you can ever possibly image.

You either see the world as in the first picture, the red dress included. Or you will see the world how Neo see it = binary code. Once you start seeing it for what it really is, you cannot go backwards anymore.

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133cf3  No.15012553

This is is for Thread 6. I will be seeing anons in thread 7.

Have a nice day.

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