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17d795 No.13648619

Democracy originally used selection by lot. This is generally unknown until the discovery of the Aristotle’s Constitution of the Athenians in 1879

In 2014, two prominent US political scientists, Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page, authors of Democracy in America?, published a study of national surveys of the general public conducted between 1981 and 2002, and concluded that, “The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence.”

https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-one/introduction

Selection by lot blocks the formation of corruption and the formation of clientele networks.

The argument against selection by lot is the obvious problem of selecting incompetent people. To remedy this the selection can be weighted by performance and ability to create a meritocratic system.

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282563 No.13648620

>>13648619

Yes indeed. Also Athens fucked itself over hard with democracy and like basically ignored and caused the death of one of the greatest generals and statesman of all time: Pericles so they could get their ass beat by Sparta.

They always shoot themselves in the foot. Because most people are retarded. You need to have people with like 120 i.q. + as well as high e.q. find out who those are and give them random selections like jury duty

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992a66 No.13648622

Democracy is idiotic. The masses shouldn't be given any right to choose who governs because they are easily manipulated nitwits.

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282563 No.13648636

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32440b No.13648983

>>13648619

I've been saying since I was in high school the congress should be drawn randomly from adults living in the districts that meet the requirement.

White males, obviously.

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70ca62 No.13648985

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>>13648622

Monarchy is the sole correct governmental architecture. Popular representation is a damaging and dangerous falsehood led into common conscience by masonic authors writing in very questionable faith. Over the last ~5 centuries, (((Masons))) have methodically destroyed every existing monarchical system.

>>13648983

Remember that America was created as a second Venice, it was created as the masonic New Atlantis, per (((Francis Bacon's))) instructions. Outward democracy was therefore always a rotating illusion lent to the believing goyish public. Congress is a diversionary body having no true instrumentality in the determination of affairs. Haven’t you ever played Metal Gear Solid 2? Presidents possess no power, they are drama ornaments set in place by the Patriots, aka the judeo-masonic mafia, under the purposed intent of disguising who is actually in control. Financiers cloaking their power through four-year “democratic” election cycles is one of the most genius aspects of their long-lived reign. All right-wing presidents (whether Nixon or Trump) are embroiled in scandals of one sort or the other, as this is how Jews impress upon the public the undesirability of right-wing political positions. Again the stressing of these scandals as being authentically politically meaningful matters will always remain necessary from the perspective of psychologically conditioning the goyish public, for through them the illusion of one man being in charge is upheld. This is especially important because it nullifies the need for any rebellion against the hidden masonic controllers — if the American public can be made to believe that one man is driving all important political decisions, and that still further this man is subject to the fair and renovating motions of election cycles, they will likely never perceive the necessity of ousting the (((real controllers))) who lurk behind the presidential office and are in no way subject to any pretended democratic process.

All the original "liberal democratic theorists" were masonic propagandists who were knowingly writing on the behalf of the conquering interests of Jewish bankers (who had then (~late 1500s/early 1600s) just moved to England). Recall again that America was created as a vehicle for Venetian-Jewish power (for expanding their empire and control). Following this, when the Venetian bankers targeted the monarchies (French, Russian, etc.) for extinction, they did so in incredibly clever ways – using different political fronts (democracy, communism) to mask their revolutionary hand and achieve their ends. Their enemies (white europeans, catholics, nationalists, monarchists, etc.) had always ruled in the open – you could point to the guy or the group of men in charge, and once you had cut off all their heads, the government belonged to you. But Jews are not this stupid, and possessing accordingly so much direct experience of being "persecuted" under these sorts of governments, they chose contrariwise to establish layered or cloaked systems of government (such as the one we live under right now) which effectively anonymizes their influence to all but maybe 2-4% of a given tyrannized population. At this moment, we cannot in a literal sense point to who is in charge because none of us actually know who is in charge (surely, we know it is the Jews who are in control, but we cannot say which exact Jew, even the Red Shields (Rothschilds) are a front for older Venetian/Phoenician families).

The last 400 years of human history have been one unbroken stream of Judeo-Phoenician conquest, which has evidently compassed the highets number of wars, the greatest starvations, the greatest genocides, the greatest "human rights" abuses, the greatest media scams, the greatest financial collapses, the greatest volume of slave traffick, etc. And all of this satanic trauma has taken place not under the stewardship of kings, but under the direction of Jewish bankers and their "democratic" governments.

The instauration of actual Monarchy (no-jews, no-masons monarchism) is the only path forward.

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b8f887 No.13649010

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>The original democracy used random selection to block corruption

That is very antisemitic.

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c1f99c No.13649113

>>13648983

representative democracy is a jewish scam and one of the key ways they preserve lasting dictatorial power without it appearing as such.

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29fbd0 No.13649118

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>>13648985

>Monarchy is the sole correct governmental architecture.

but what if Kikes pull a palace coup and replace King with Krypto-Kike usurpers?

Why is Liz II a dead ringer for Anne Frank and why doesn't world famous Anne Frank have several hundred former classmates and other people able to not just say but prove at least "yeah, I knew her, she was at my school and hung with so and so", like would apply to anyone, even a no-body like me?

Notice her BFF from school is also sort of a dead end, in that her BFF also lacks normal "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" connections.

But IMO the Iranian and Saudi system seems pretty good. "Monarch" is picked by body of more or less responsible people.

I'd assumed that the UK had some thing where Parliament or even House of Lords had to at least rubber stamp new king, and maybe that might be where everyone takes a pause to give an unpopular idiot and suspected wife murderer like Charles a chance to step aside and let much more popular, intelligent and now fully grown up William take over, but apparently its all fully automatic.

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e931e9 No.13649119

>>13648985

national-socialism is the only proven anti-jewish system

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29fbd0 No.13649120

>>13648619

> The original democracy used random selection to block corruption

in olden days, able bodied men were required to take turns as night watch wearing the "Copper" aka were "Cops".

Organized Crime and related corruption can't exist without Civil Service entrenched self interested police force.

Likewise, Referendums work because bribing the entire population against their interests is impossible. In CA, Referendums have to be over ruled by Jewish judges.

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17d795 No.13649149

>>13648985

Great post and I agree with your historic view that the monarchies were overthrown by layered frontman groups like masons (compartmentalization for plausible deniability and obfuscation, essentially proto intelligence groups). I disagree that because monarchy worked to block these groups in the past, that they are the only way forward. The problem with monarchy and autocratic government is the single point of failure. Many examples in history of how this can go awry. It could be improved by having a competency check/hurdle that an upcoming monarch would need to pass. It needs a meritocratic element so you don't end up with the second generation issue in which a spoiled soft son comes into power and wrecks the Empire. This well known issue is discussion in Plato's Law, particularly the case was the sons of Cyrus: "The generational curse of success, the tale of Cyrus’ sons:

Cyrus’s sons were raised by his wife, women and eunuchs in total luxury. The result being sons who fought each other for control, Cambyses killing his brother and then losing the kingdom while mad with wine and brutality. The cycle then repeated when Darius, who was not the son of a king, so he treated his people with equality and his soldiers thus loved him and fought hard, reacquiring the lost empires. His son Xerxes was then brought up in luxury and lost the empire like Cambyses.

(about spoiled prices)… their degeneracy is not to be attributed to chance, as I maintain; the reason is rather the evil life which is generally led by the sons of very rich and royal persons; for never will boy or man, young or old, excel in virtue, who has been thus educated.

…For no man ought to have preeminent honour in a state because he surpasses others in wealth, any more than because he is swift of foot or fair or strong, unless he have some virtue in him; nor even if he have virtue, unless he have this particular virtue of temperance." Page 3046 of Plato's Complete Works by Delphi Classics on Amazon

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17bf61 No.13649380

>>13649149

communism derives from gnosticism, which derives from platonism, which derives from pythagorean mysticism. without plato (his wretched influence), there would have been no ground wherefrom jews would have taken and built their modern communistic theories. you could not have made a more ironic post. plato was a wealthy gay pederast who taught egyptian paganism to greek youths. men of this sort (gay mystics) are averse to traditional theology and traditional (monarchical, king-led) systems of government. appealing to plato in the interest of advancing an anti-monarchical argument is the equivalent of asking a jew his opinion of catholicism.

it is from plato that we have the first mature propaganda model (pseudos gennaion, noble falsehood/noble lie). this resolve that the concealed rulers of a "proto-communistic (ie, platonic) republic" are enjoined to deceive their subjects is exactly the origin of the endless deception we suffer under today. jewish platonists (kabbalists) rule the world and they follow plato's directive very closely. monarchy is not perfect (admitted), but it is the superior of all the variegated face of modern judeo-masonic political theory (comprehending in progressing order from masonic "democracy", to outright communism itself, to kosher individualistic "libertarianism").

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