37dc95 No.6153
Where do I start with reading on Baudrillard's theory of simulacra? "Simulacra and Simulacrum" seems too hard to grasp without background knowledge based on the first pages. Would reading "Symbolic Exchange & Death" be a better starting point? other suggestions?
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2404ad No.6168
>>6153
I had two or three rounds with this text until I felt like I got most of it. His writing style is obtuse, but you get in the rhythm of it. Maybe it was the English translation. Don't worry to much about the map he goes on about for the first few pages.
Rather than the map, try reading it in terms of a VR experience.
Another thing that may help is listening to Lucier's I Am Sitting in a Room: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Sitting_in_a_Room
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a1fc9e No.6169
>>6153
Jorges Luis Borges’ kingdom that constructed a perfect map was a lot more fun to read about. Baudrillard is a try hard hack- education was wasted on him.
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2404ad No.6170
>>6169
I agree there are more fun books to read out there. Some of Baudrillard's writing style is downright painful. Maybe the original French is better?
I found value in Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation. I was reading semiotics texts around the same time and he added "color" to those studies. I wouldn't recommend intense study, but the ideas behind distortions of the precession of simulacra are fun to consider.
If the book is not your cup of tea, a careful listen to Lucier's I Am Sitting in a Room will get you in the same room with Baudrillard.
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f00654 No.6228
>>6168
>>6170
Thanks
>Some of Baudrillard's writing style is downright painful. Maybe the original French is better?
I read Spirit of Terrorism and Carnival&Cannibal in English, now I'm trying to read The Gulf War Didn't Take Place in French. While my French is definitely worse than my English, and i have to look up many words, I feel like grammatically it reads noticeably smoother than in English. But surely he's also just obtuse. I'm not even trying to grasp the meaning of every single sentence.
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272d75 No.6238
>"Simulacra and Simulacrum" seems too hard to grasp
How can you be this stupid?
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f00654 No.6246
>>6238
>This representational imaginary, which both culminates in and is engulfed by the cartographer's mad project of an ideal coextensivity between the map and the territory, disappears with simulation, whose operation is nuclear and genetic, and no longer specular and discursive.
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