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ed337b No.4911

I believe many philosophers and politicians might have written books on those subjects. What would be good starting points on this subject?

If being rational doesn't work on the masses, maybe appeals to emotion will.

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ed337b No.4912

M8, there are literally books that are almost a THOUSAND YEARS OLD teaching you the art of rhetoric. Rhetoric isn't about being logical in the standard sense in the way that proper arguments work, but is about a practical logic about how dumb human beings actually think and are convinced. Appeals to emotion with the veneer of reason, that's what it is. This is not enough, however, you have to not be a sperg or autist yourself in order to have the unteachable aspect of it: a finely tuned and self-aware charm and charisma.

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ed337b No.4942

Well, any help on this one?

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ed337b No.4981

idk much about this but I do own nicomachean ethics give it a try

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ed337b No.5040

these days, the art of sophistry and rhetoric is best learned by reading about psychology and the neuroscience behind the formation of opinions. Most of the good stuff is going to be technical and dry, but it's going to serve you better than populistic works on the matter.

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e74735 No.5313

I found my Asperger's downright helpful, though that's because mind-manipulation appears to be one of my areas of hyperfocus.

Yes, if you're willing to lie, there's hardly anything you can't convince a majority to believe. Unfortunately, what civilization needs now is an appreciation for truth, which no amount of rhetoric can impart.

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