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29b2ac No.4202

i don't know much about philosophy. i'm new

is there a belief or theory that the only way to be immortal is through leaving a huge/long legacy? like if one's purpose in life is to not die, evade death with a legacy to still exist in a way

idk, sorry if this makes no sense.

i would also enjoy some light reading material to help me get started in philosophy

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29b2ac No.4204

Here's a layman's introduction to philosophy... https://vimeo.com/53000177

There are many questions surrounding immortality. Sorry to say I don't have a straight answer for you but that's what makes philosophy both fun and strenuous at times in regards to mental faculties.

"i would also enjoy some light reading material to help me get started in philosophy"

Go big or go home. Use the sticky for reference.

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29b2ac No.4205

>>4202

>is there a belief or theory that the only way to be immortal is through leaving a huge/long legacy? like if one's purpose in life is to not die, evade death with a legacy to still exist in a way

there is the roman maxim, "vita brevis; ars longa," which translates to, "life is short; art is long," which explains the general roman philosophy on the concept of immortality.

best answers to your question i can give you is counterpoints from old marky marc(us aurelious). consider reading meme philosophers like Nietzsche if you want someone supportive of your idea.

> Hippocrates after curing many diseases himself fell sick and died. The Chaldaei foretold the deaths of many, and then fate caught them too. Alexander, and Pompeius, and Caius Caesar, after so often completely destroying whole cities, and in battle cutting to pieces many ten thousands of cavalry and infantry, themselves too at last departed from life. Heraclitus, after so many speculations on the conflagration of the universe, was filled with water internally and died smeared all over with mud. And lice destroyed Democritus; and other lice killed Socrates. What means all this? Thou hast embarked, thou hast made the voyage, thou art come to shore; get out. If indeed to another life, there is no want of gods, not even there. But if to a state without sensation, thou wilt cease to be held by pains and pleasures, and to be a slave to the vessel, which is as much inferior as that which serves it is superior: for the one is intelligence and deity; the other is earth and corruption.

> Do not act as if thou wert going to live ten thousand years. Death hangs over thee. While thou livest, while it is in thy power, be good.

> He who has a vehement desire for posthumous fame does not consider that every one of those who remember him will himself also die very soon; then again also they who have succeeded them, until the whole remembrance shall have been extinguished as it is transmitted through men who foolishly admire and perish. But suppose that those who will remember are even immortal, and that the remembrance will be immortal, what then is this to thee? And I say not what is it to the dead, but what is it to the living? What is praise except indeed so far as it has a certain utility? For thou now rejectest unseasonably the gift of nature, clinging to something else...

apologies for the outdated translation, i dont have the better one on hand.

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7bc2f8 No.5375

I personally think a hankering for immortality is a form of denial. There's something far more immediate that's bothering you. Indeed it's so close you can only get it out of focus by gazing at the farthest possible distance.

Stop bitching about immortality and look at the thing in front of you that's about to eat your face. Maybe it's worth the effort of stopping it? At the very least, even if I'm wrong, you'll be distracted from questions of eternity while you deal with it.

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