No.97045
question to ancaps
do you feel alienated?
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No.97048
I am above humanity. To "relate" to those apes would be beneath me.
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No.97057
No, because I have agency. The passive form "alienated" implies something that happened to me, that my circumstances are not the product of my own actions. I know perfectly well that any isolation I experience is a product of the choices I have made–I could easily ape the normies. I could repeat NPC-tier soundbites straight from the intro of any civics textbook, go to clubs and parties to make a fool of myself, and communicate exclusively through pop culture references and Huffpo headlines. I choose not to act like a retard, and I choose to accept fringe ideas because they make sense to me, despite the social consequences. I don't feel "alienated," in other words, because I don't feel that social validation is something that the world owes to me.
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No.97071
>>97045
Not really. I do it to myself. Nobody is avoiding me, much the opposite.
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No.97112
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No.97173
I feel a little bit lonely then again I'm not a social person so I don't blame anyone for it.
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No.97206
>>97045
We're enough of a meme now that I can tell normalfags I'm an AnCap and they can make whatever assumptions they would make about me/call it a day and go about our business, so no. AnCapism has entered into mainstream politics IRL for anyone who cares about politics.
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No.97215
>>97112
Other than his bad sense of style, there is literally nothing wrong with this man.
> Strong set of goals
> Close friends that want to travel the world with him
> Willingness to pursue passion in game design
> Active member in a large and growing community
> Confident enough to be aware of differences in himself and society, but care little
> Musician and Writer: A Real Rennassiance Man
> Doesn't seem angry, or desperate just creating a profile to attract potential mates
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No.97233
>>97215
though atheist community is often secularist human rights worshipers group
he is way too haughty
>tech geek
what does it even mean? that he can repair a computer?
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No.97238
>>97233
It just means that technology is one of his hobbies.
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No.97261
>>97045
From what? Our labour?
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No.97277
>>97261
from society, 99% of population disagrees with ancaps
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No.97281
>>97277
>99% of population disagrees with ancaps
The same population disagrees with itself because it's not a solid thing. Yet people seem to be doing alright in this regard.
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No.97283
>>97277
Yeah, but not wholeheartedly. Of the few times it's come up in conversation, I don't think I've ever had someone say ancap is completely horrible. Generally I get "that'd be nice, but is it possible?" or "but how would we do X?".
I also don't live and breathe my politics, so I have this crazy thing where I associate with people even if I disagree with them.
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No.97299
>>97283
The only people who really give ancaps shit are authoritarian ideologues, I've found. Probably because ancaps are one of, if not the only ideologues that don't attempt to impose their ideology on everyone else by force.
At worst, they may come off to people as annoying, if they do live and breathe their politics, which I don't think I've ever seen in an ancap IRL before.
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No.97305
>>97299
>Probably because ancaps are one of, if not the only ideologues that don't attempt to impose their ideology on everyone else by force.
I think one other reason is the edge factor. A big part of NatSoc ideas, especially the species found on imageboards, is edgy contrarianism and priding oneself on being as anti-normie as possible. Thing is, "auction off the national parks, give McNukes to mercenaries, and remove the undesirables from private property" will always be edgier than "what we have now but /ourguys/ are in power, no interest rates, and maybe less crime," and they're eternally buttmad about that fact. It's why they keep trying to portray libertarians as passive live-and-let-live types that are terrified of "collectivism," NEETSocs are trying to meme it into reality so they can call themselves the chief edgelords uncontested.
TL;DR NEETSocs have penis spicy meme envy.
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No.97311
>>97277
People don't necessarily disagree with ancap, they only disagree when you call it ancap.
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No.103636
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No.103640
>>97311
Aside from pedantic communists who want to claim the word "anarchy" for themselves, I think this is only because when they hear "libertarian" they think of safe, social liberal types like Gary Johnson who just want low taxes and legal drugs.
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No.103675
>>97299
We have the economics nailed, we're a more stable and less degenerate bunch than them no matter how hard they try, and we remain somewhat homogenous - a better word would be "harmonious" - even though we are split across several countries, religious denominations, and philosophical schools. Also, we recruit from the same pool: Young people who recently grew disillusioned with politics and society. SJW's and commies recruit from a completely different pool, and they don't steal members from the NEETsocs. In other words, we're in competition, and dissuading people from joining us is how they attract more members.
Then there are complete faggots, like True DilTom, who started out as libertarians, but then had to move on to more retarded and esoteric philosophies to retain their status as online-intellectuals. Fools like him give you the impression that their "grand theory of everything" is just around the corner, they just gotta read Heidegger and Hans Blüher and then they have it all nailed. They reinvent themselves once a year, they have no sense of tradition no matter how much they claim otherwise, basically, they are never content with what or who they are, and that is why they have a strong tendency to declare everything they believed a week ago to be utter bullshit. Online intellectuals are a funny group.
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No.103678
>>103675
>Online intellectuals are a funny group.
Yes they are. Its funny seeing them on twitter. The trad right sperged out over a picture of a truck stop in Pennsylvania.
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No.104429
>>103675
Is changing your political views based on new information and observation the same as what True DilTom does?
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No.104462
yep.. the nazi larpers don't bother me because they admit they want to be violent but liberals and socialist lites make me infuriated because they act like they are mother teresa and they will pretend like they are the most compassionate humans beings on earth as they are reporting their neighbors to the police and when the police come to get you they will claim they are only trying to help you as they put you into a cage and label you some clinical term that completely disqualifies you from xyz but then simultaneously complain about your white privilege
then they will complain about how voter registration laws are preventing poor black people from voting and partaking in their collective mob but then totally fucking support any regulation or taxes hat makes it wayyyyy fucking harder to fucking get into a business or gatekeeper some industry like how they all support bernie taxing wall street transactions as if it already isn't hard enough for poor poeple to invest in equities when they cant trade more than 5 times a week and the transaction fees are staggering because only 5 brokers are allowed to do business in the united states and bernie's tax would ruin robinhood which was like the one disruptive institution in their stupid gatekeeping that liberals will justify
and they act as if the market is already soooooooooo free and we should just be grateful that they don't take more money lol and they say that the government isn't violence when it's stealing your money but then complain about wars and donald trump and complain about how corporations run the government but we should give the government all our money and guns
and they make excuses for nordic socialism even though their social security fund was invested in the stock market and there is a fuckton of nepotism with bureaucracy and public enterprise there and their economies are stagnate and it's fucking impossible to do a lot of common businesses there and entrepreneurs run away from those places and how their welfare is part of the reason the cost of living is so high there and how the government actively tries to keep the rent prices high so people cant live without welfare and it causes even more of a an inflationary effect
anddddddd i forgot there was something else but the point is i can handle violent people when they admit they are selfish but it drives me insane when someone thinks they are virtuous and compassionate while in reality they are psychotic murderous wannabe little hitlers themselves… modern people are just as guilty as the civilians in germany in ww2, millions are dead from the wars and millions of non violent people are in cages and they even defend nordic prisons as being rehabituable and they sound like the /pol/ niggers defending the nazi "work camps"
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No.104508
>>103675
>>104429
A bit unrelated to OP but True DiltTom is a good talking point.
At the end I think many times your ideology is mostly affected by your image and your surroundings, you can't get away from certain groups of people, or your "tribe" let's call it, and in TrueDiltTom case he was seeing this cringe furry shitty childish ancap movement in Youtube and wanted to get away to go more in this "high intellectual" aura.
However, as you can see in his videos, not only he dropped the quality and effort in them, they became this mess of just citing other authors where you don't really feel like he understands what he's talking about. Brining big talking points that give that vibe of "grand theory of everything" as mentioned before.
It's funny to see the youtube comments admitting themselves that they can't understand shit what he's talking about, a signal that he probably didn't understand himself either, but everyone sucking their dicks but it makes them feel intellectual.
I think one issue with ancaps is this problem when it comes to connecting with people. We have many ancaps that are cringy beyond belief and only get here to be contrarian. They would be nazis but nazis are too badies so is safer to become ancap and just play it cool even if they don't have any idea about the basic concepts.
We really are missing pop strong figures that can resonate with the public that at the same time can actually handle the high complexity of the entire economic, social and ethic work of our schools.
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No.104522
>>104508
>They would be nazis but nazis are too badies so is safer to become ancap
Except it's literally the opposite. NatSocs like pretend they're the edgiest ones around because their meme ideology is what brings about the most emotional revulsion in normies, and most NatSocs are NatSoc just to be contrarian. But if you take a step back from the emotional reaction and look at the actual policies, NatSocs are peak normie. They just want the policies we have now, but without non-whites, lowered interest rates, and the Federal Reserve folded into the Department of Treasury. By every reasonable metric, Hoppean ancaps are ediger than the NEETSocs in every area.
>We really are missing pop strong figures that can resonate with the public
Ancap is a niche idea for niche people. It will not gain attention in pop culture or with normies while remaining observably ancap. It may become more popular, but it will always be a niche. Madly dashing after popularity is how you end up with the LP.
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No.104536
>>104522
I think you are right, but that emotional revulsion is really important when it comes to form an identity and ideology.
I feel like a lot of conservatives figures are moving into libertarian (without going into full ancap/hoppean) precisely because this emotional reaction.
It is true that ancaps are way more edgy on reality and NatSoc (and even just conservatives like Shapiro) are just peak normies, but what the general public identifies is what moves this people in my opinion. They want to move into Libertarian ideas because from the outside "at least they didn't genocide full populations" when in reality, when you talk with them, they don't truly believe or know about these ideas. That's why I think there's this group of ancaps/libertarian now mostly in youtube that is pure cringe. They are just conservative/nazis that can't really fight in the public with their ideas and are looking for refuge here.
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No.104567
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>>104522
european here and i understand why american anons are natsoc- you are counterculture and it is mainstream to love jews
maybe i would be natsoc instead of ancap if i were born in the usa, but here in europe we dont have much jewish influence (except soros) so we dont hate them, quite the opposite, in poland, my homeland, many people hate jews because of historical reasons (żydokomuna) so it is edgy and contrarian to love jews (like kelthuz)
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No.105191
>>104462
I relate to this a lot. I live in a blue state so I saw the hypocrisy of the shitting on Bush then worshipping Obama despite the fact Obama continued a lot of Bush's foreign policy and managed to get an even higher kill count than I thought possible. I just can't stand hypocrites no matter what.
You speak the truth man. Do they realize the effects of their policies have on poor people or are they dumb enough to believe in them?
There was always something that felt false about the progressives. They claim to fight for the poor yet most of them are from middle class white families. Even the non-white ones still come from well off families. I know it's a petty criticism but it's always something that bugged me about them.
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No.105193
>>104462
>the nazi larpers don't bother me because they admit they want to be violent but liberals and socialist lites make me infuriated because they act like they are mother teresa and they will pretend like they are the most compassionate humans beings on earth as they are reporting their neighbors to the police
QFT
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No.105235
>>104567
jews are really a non factor in America tbh, so is everyone else when its really just black vs white as the main rivalry here. Jews are just sort of secondary group who gets the typical shitting on like everyone else. No different from Irish, Italian, or Polish immigrants ect. Theres things like some jews uncle muarry not being allowed into the all WASP golf course or country club but thats the worst of it here.
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No.105237
>>105235
>jews are really a non factor in America tbh
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No.105266
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