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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 51f0238e57b9530⋯.jpg (73.69 KB,500x667,500:667,51f0238e57b9530c4183b5b0a0….jpg)

 No.94960

Capitalism doesn't work.

Pic related. Imagine a construction company having to buy 10 bricks from this guy on the street, and then having to go to another guy on another street to buy 10 more bricks, and then to another guy on yet another street to buy some more, and so on… until they reach an amount of 10 000 bricks. It would take ages before any work is done.

How else would construction happen if the government didn't produce all the bricks and build shit for you? There are many examples like this, but they prove that ancap, markets, businesses, etc… are just a fantasy, and only fascism (but more specifically, national-communism) is the driving force of civilization, at least the commies got this part right.

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 No.94982

File: cd089d2416dd81c⋯.png (233.33 KB,393x397,393:397,laugh.png)

>>94960

>buying 10 bricks per person

Imagine being this fucking dumb.

>Implying you can't order 10 000 bricks from private company.

<How else would construction happen if the government didn't produce all the bricks?

>Implying the private sector couldn't produce the bricks and do the construction job better.

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 No.94983

File: 0dbdf63d99f65a9⋯.png (30.41 KB,625x626,625:626,t7p.png)

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 No.94989

File: 76bfca5734145e5⋯.png (9.34 KB,500x500,1:1,are you serious stalker.png)

Bait is something low-effort these days.

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 No.95001

File: 05521099b715d01⋯.jpg (49.43 KB,550x445,110:89,IMG_20181213_165251.jpg)

This is road-tier retardation

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 No.95014

File: 25456a9ab66a402⋯.png (477.52 KB,2324x1489,2324:1489,C4D91EEF-0985-40B6-B426-4F….png)

File: e8537e2a7912303⋯.jpeg (127.86 KB,750x757,750:757,95DCED77-27B9-4DCD-AFB3-2….jpeg)

>my mfw face when people think op is serious

autism tbh

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 No.95027

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>94960

Op is a god

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 No.95056

>>95014

>China has low taxes

HOLY FUCK. Is this actually true?

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 No.95058

>>95056

Seems that way, and they’re getting even lower to compete with the bad orange man’s reforms, too. China is communist in name only, their overall economy is totally status quo. While there are publicly owned businesses, services and safety nets same as any western geopolitical entity there are 4 million private businesses being created annually iirc too

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-tax-idUSKCN1LG18E

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/business/tax-bill-china.html

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 No.95071

>>95058

>tfw 100 years later all we will have left with is a population of mutts ruled by Jews and Asians, because today's generation can't get its head out of its own ass and stop worshiping various brands of socialism

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 No.95072

File: c151b230015e985⋯.png (409.49 KB,588x617,588:617,1495916752758.png)

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 No.95120

>>95072

Ahh yes, I was looking for that pic.

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 No.95127

>>95071

>Implying that capitalism didn't help ascend the Jew-Asian ruling class in the first place

>Implying that China wasn't working with the US and Soros since the 70s to destroy the white Soviets

>Implying that China isn't porky supreme

Also, the issue with socialism vs capitalism isn't muh markets. Capitalism was originally coined by Louis Blanc and Proudhon to refer to a economy where some own capital/property to the exclusion of others. Capitalist just meant people who owned capital before that, not proponents of an economic system.

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 No.95144

>>95127

>namefag

>Cum choking insufferable worthless disgrace

Checks out

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 No.95153

>>95127

>bla bla bla commie buzzwords and semantics

Didn't even read. Speak English.

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 No.95156

>>95127

>some own capital/property to the exclusion of others

There has to be more to that. Otherwise, capitalism would have existed since early civilization.

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 No.95159

>>94960

What kind of company only makes enough bricks to sell ten at a time? What can you even build with just ten bricks? That's not even enough for a protest. You'd need a palette of those mother fuckers to service any crowd big enough that folks think they're gonna get away with throwing them.

Are these handmade mud bricks? Is this the stone age? What the hell are you gonna do with ten thousand bricks in the stone age? What the hell kind of market even has ten thousand independent bespoke brick makers servicing the same region? Why didn't they team up? You know those bricks won't match. Your house is gonna suck.

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 No.95166

>>95144

>>95153

Oddly enough, I get the same spergout reactions on leftpol, where I just got banned from. I thought you people would be a little more reasonable with your minuscule board population.

>>95156

I think they both were referring to the industrial wage labor system, as opposed to feudalism, where the ruling class ruled by land ownership instead of capital ownership.

"What I call 'capitalism' that is to say the appropriation of capital by some to the exclusion of others" - Louis Blanc

"Economic and social regime in which capital, the source of income, does not generally belong to those who make it work through their labour" - Proudhon

Interestingly enough, Proudhon had a great influence among American individualist anarchists, syndicalists, and fascists. 'Socialism', meanwhile, is a nebulous word that practically has no real meaning. Proudhon is just as distant from Trotsky as both are to Bastiat. Basically, he's not a 'commie'.

>>95153

Oh, and for you again, I didn't use any Marxist terms like proletariat or bourgeoisie. Capital is a word used even by modern businessmen, and namedropping people does not constitute using 'commie buzzwords'.

Not to mention that ironically Marx didn't use the word 'capitalism' in itself as nuch as 'capitalistic system' and 'capitalist mode of production'.

And, denouncing something as 'commie' is not an argument. You can define capitalism however you want today, but you can not determine your opinions of or even the opinions of past figures and movements due to your modern semantics.

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 No.95168

>>95166

Fuck off and kill yourself, you son of a black whore monkey, you don't belong here and leftypol is the only place you deserve.

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 No.95172

>>95168

>Doesn't even use the word nigger

Stop projecting your mulatto heritage, nigger. Go hang yourself on a tree.

I don't even post on /leftpol/ exclusively and only came back due to some good users like Naziposter. I mean, I also post at /fascist/, but that place is nearly dead.

Also, leftpol isn't leftypol, though I guess the mods coming back made the two places identical.

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 No.95181

>>95172

>I don't even post on /leftpol/ exclusively

Kill yourself you retarded leftist in denial, nobody wants you here nor anyone cares about your senseless shitposting blabbery.

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 No.95182

>>95159

It's hilarious seeing lolbergs sperg out when proven that their system can't possibly work. Maybe instead of being a butthurt, you could learn about state-capitalism, or better yet, Marxist-Leninism.

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 No.95183

>>94960

>subhuman has an IQ below 85

>is a communist

Go fucking figure.

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 No.95195

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>>95181

>Can't even argue his points

>Spergs out

>Believes that having his precious Taiwanese weaving board be a circlejerk safespace is a good idea

>Actually thinks I care about what label people attach to me

>Bases his politics on 'red team, blue team'

I guess you just conceded that you're retarded. :^)

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 No.95230

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>>95195

>abloobloobloo

No one gives a fuck about your gloomy monologues. Go back to bitching about le edgy ancaps in your commie shitholes, nigger.

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 No.95232

>>95195

>Can't even argue his points

You didn't have any arguments to begin with, just usual leftist shitposting

>Taiwanese weaving board

That's not /leftypol/, retard

>Bases his politics on 'red team, blue team'

Nice strawman

>I guess you just conceded that you're retarded

Hey projection.

You literally are a leftist in every single way you could have shown. I wonder, why are there so many namefags and faggots among your kind?

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 No.95240

>>95230

Ancaps aren't edgy. You fuckers are as status quo as they get. Your height of relevance was in the early 2010s among fedora-tipping bronies who lack any sense of self-awareness.

>>95232

I mean, your main issue is with the quotes? Or, is it me basically stating the fact that China and America have been friendly since the 70s and have worked together to defeat the Soviets in the Cold War?

I also mentioned the influence of Proudhon's thought being most prominent on EVERYONE but communists.

>That's not leftypol, retard

Haven't went to leftypol since a year ago.

>Nice strawman

You then proceed to screech 'literally a leftist' like it's supposed to be an insult. Political labels don't constitute an insult. It's like me trying to call you an ancap as an insult.

The problem with you is that you see things in terms left vs right without understanding WHY you hate 'leftists'. WHY is leftism bad? If you say because of low-IQ minorities, then my views shouldn't be an issue, considering how I'm against them as much if not more fervently than you. If it's because you despise the 'lower classes', then surely you'd be fine with wealthy Muslim and poo-in-the-loo immigrants? You'd be fine with the rampant liberalism of the wealthy elites? You'd be fine with (((them))).

You criticize Nazis as 'feels over reals', yet you base your entire ideology off your feelings towards words and semantics instead of actual economic conditions, history, and cultural/racial differences. You just want to be as 'right-wing' as possible out of sheer hatred for the 'leftist'. It is no different from the antifag adopting the hammer-and-sickle despite him probably being the sort of person who'd end up in a gulag in such a state. You don't have real principles or material interests. You just want to LARP as the ultimate' rightist' to win a dick-measuring contest.

Also, I only namefagged because I knew I wasn't a 'normal leftist' and didn't really fit into Leftypol's 'culture'. Honestly, anyone who shares my ideas can take up my mantle if they want.

Anyways, I'm out of here. Clearly, you faggots are no different from leftpol and leftypol in terms of autism.

Good luck being shills for (((them)))

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 No.95241

>>95195

Oh man, your shocking comparison/insult towards capitalism in general and ancaps in particular has really changed my mind. Clearly we're all fools here, just look at that silly idiot with no pants and that jew with an erect cock. You're a master of discourse and argumentation. I'm NAZBOL now!

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 No.95250

>>95240

>Haven't went to leftypol since a year ago.

<I don't post on /leftypol/ exclusively

Sure thing, leftyshit

>you then proceed to screech 'literally a leftist' like it's supposed to be an insult

It's not an insult. It's a description of the most degenerate, wasteful and cancerous creature ever imaginable, which you fit perfectly. If you don't like it, get a brain and grow some balls.

>you base your entire ideology off your feelings towards words and semantics instead of actual economic conditions, history, and cultural/racial differences

t. leftist who knows nothing beyond feelz>realz ideologies

>The problem with you is that you see things in terms left vs right without understanding WHY you hate 'leftists'. WHY is leftism bad

Oh, little lefty pussy is sad noone joing a circlejerk. How sad.

>Also, I only namefagged because I knew I wasn't a 'normal leftist' and didn't really fit into Leftypol's 'culture'

>namefaggot is a leftist faggot snowflake

Checks out, you dumb trash. The only difference between you and the stupidest trannypol shitposter is that you add namefaggotry to make sure nobody confuses someone worthy of absolutely anything with cancerous scum you are.

>You don't have real principles or material interests

>How dare you not follow the class structure i made up!!1!

>You just want to LARP as the ultimate' rightist' to win a dick-measuring contest

Oh, another projection. You are even lower than animals as even they have more capacity of self-reflection.

>Anyways, I'm out of here. Clearly, you faggots are no different from leftpol and leftypol in terms of autism.

He said on the road to leftypol.

>Good luck being shills for (((them)))

No one will do a better job at that than leftists like you.

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 No.95254

>I also mentioned the influence of Proudhon's thought being most prominent on EVERYONE but communists.

On everyone but MLs. Most of communism is nonmarxist, and marx, actually, ripped proudhon off more than once.

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 No.95294

>>95240

>>>/trannypol/

GTFO COMMIE SCUM

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 No.101847

>>95127

>Capitalism was originally coined by Louis Blanc and Proudhon

Wrong. Don't even need to read the rest to know it's wrong.

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 No.101859

>>95127

<I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Capitalism is in fact, GNU/Capitalism, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Capitalism.

>>95166

>>95195

>Doesn't even make an argument about anything

>Expects people to argue with him

>>95240

>Strawmanning this hard

>Not even able to tell the difference between an insult and an argument

>Leaves after expecting people to argue with him over literally nothing

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 No.105820

It definitely doesn't. Only fools believe in it

Pff

let's go commie!

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 No.105821

I agree with you. The thought about companies that produce only 10 bricks is ridiculous. Many decent private building companies use construction task management software like https://fluix.io/industry-construction to do their best and be productive. I think that a government monopoly shouldn't exist since people need a variety of offers to choose from.

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 No.105848

Luckily, I bought a prefabricated house, and I don't have to build anything from scratch. The only thing I'd like to make repairs inside the house, because not everything suits me.

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 No.105849

I love doing DIY repairs. Probably, everyone is used to hiring specialists and workers, but I get great pleasure from the repair process. If you're looking for a reliable building materials store, I highly recommend checking out this site https://sheetmaterialswholesale.co.uk/sheet-materials/plywood/flexible-plywood/ . Here you can buy various materials, including flexible plywood, for interior decoration or even for making furniture.

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