/liberty/ - Liberty

>horseshit theory

nu-/pol/ is pretty damn cancerous, you really couldn't come up with more intelligent criticisms than this plebeian-tier argument?

As for "dealing" with them, there's really not much to be done beyond continuing to shill for libertarianism and trying to draw more people to it. They aren't really a threat to liberty at the moment, as long as the overton window's in the buttfuck-retarded position it's in now, their immediate goals do not interfere with ours, and even coincide in a few places, despite our final goals being somewhat different. Most of the NatSocs are just LARPers who barely understand the ideology they shill for, and only adopted it becasue "nazi" is the most offensive and outrage-provoking thing you can be these days. If and when they start being seen not as ebil raycis but just retarded socialists, the edge appeal will wear off and they'll adopt more grounded opinions about economics.

>>92642

>Because we have freedom of speech here.

A board has a topic, don't forget about it, freezepeachtard.

That's also not how you use the word "accommodate", which is exactly what the BO cunt is doing - inviting them and making the place fit for their infestation.

>Naturally, in a free market area, good ideas prevail and the shit ones fail.

Efficient ones do, applied to a market. We've got no market here, you virtue-signalizing redditor and the competition is easily overrun by leftists' numbers, especially when they are multiplied by "rapefurgees welcome" sign put on top by the cuck mod.

>>92642

>Because we have freedom of speech here.

Board quality > freezepeach.

>Naturally, in a free market area, good ideas prevail and the shit ones fail.

Board quality is important to not get out-competed free market of boards. If you want to tread on private property just so no one bans you anywhere for being a cunt, then you are just another leftist animal, and not an anarcho-capitalist.

>Censorship will get you down a slippery slope

Enforcing free speech on every board is the same as enforcing censorship on every board. There is never one good solution for everything, and some boards are best when moderated, while others are best unmoderated. It's all up to the market to decide what's best, not up to you.

If you can't understand any of this, then you're not a libertarian, but a liberal, and you should physically remove yourself.

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>>92645

>we did have a pedo-poster here whom the BO banned. It was glorious!

When and why? Was he breaking any rules, or just wrongthinking?

>>92741

>…what? Being gay is unsustainable without taxation?

Unironically yes. The state's nondiscrimination laws is what forces us to bake cakes for them and tolerate them in places of business where they would otherwise not be. The same nondiscrimination laws prevent their insurance rates from going sky high should anyone discover that they are hedonistic bug-chasers, and Medicare subsidizes it once the inevitable consequences of bug-chasing catches up with them. If it weren't for big companies trading virtue-signalling in exchange for regulatory favoritism faggotry wouldn't be shilled nearly as hard in private circles. And if it weren't for the prevalence of the state and its civic religion the church wouldn't be nearly as downplayed in society, and its renewed influence would aid in discouraging degeneracy.

>gay guys will never hit on your wife when you're not around

Generally people are worried about the other members of your household and not the wife. It's an open secret that many gays reproduce through molestation, it's become practically an initiation rite within their culture.

>I'm not sure what damage they will pose to the trust in a community

It's their childless, rootless, lifestyle, which is inherently higher in time-preference than their surroundings. High time-preference and immediate gratification promote self-centeredness over investing in the community, and the presence of such encourages others to do the same.

>Gays that live in areas where gayness isn't celebrated but isn't punished like what you're suggesting have no problem being integrated, at least from what I've seen.

That's true to an extent; as long as there's no way to tell they're gay and they keep their fetish in the closet it's not that big an issue. But in order to foster that kind of behavior faggotry must be severely discouraged by the community.

>>92744

In the market no one bans you for breaking rules or for wrongthink, property owners reserve the right to ban you for absolutely no reason if you are lowering the quality of their property, or lowering the quality of some service they are trying to sell.

You don't understand this because you're still using statist logic, you're thinking about how to use totalitarianism to force freedom, instead of thinking about how well your false freedom would work in the market against a forum with sensible rules.

>>92783

>like this one degenerate on /k/ did with his shotgun barrel

Tell me that was halfchan.

>>92786

Afraid not, I am very sorry.

>>92628

The better question is: Why bother?

The place went to utter shit when a deluge of the most useless stormfags and NEETsocs flooded it after /pol/harbor and the schizophrenic tard who held the board for 3 years proceeded to chase everybody who created OC or had an IQ over room temperature out.

And holy fuck, for all the bitching about "hurrdurr da_dumbnald boomer redditors invading ma Nadzi anime fingerpainting exchange" the spergs there sure are busy with their purity spirals and accusing each other of being secret Jews or Feds.

>>92910

>ooga booga bad word makes bumbum hurt

It's funny because TRS purity spiral'd itself into another Whyte NEETionalist shitheap.

It was certainly entertaining seeing spergs chase some hapless guy off the forum because he found out his grandmother was Jewish and that made him a SUBVERSIVE KIKE SHILL OUT TO DESTROY DA MOVEMEN.

>>92628

I'll bite the bait.

Nu/pol/ is cancer but

>continuation

No it isn't, you fuckwit. It's "POLITICALLY INCORRECT", meaning "any politics deemed politically incorrect".

Not like you'd fucking know, stupid emoji-posting faggot.

t. not even a nazi

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>>93199

Fuck, I really miss 4chan. Now everything's the same.

>>93200

Anyway.

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>>92783

(((anti-pedos))) lmao

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>>93332

I like being around newfags.

>>92628

Once you take the O9A LARP pill, the only solution is the unironic gas chamber. Lethal Injection. Rope. They're already flooding the prisons with violence and drugs.

Everyone on /pol/ is freaking out that the Police are ordering up taskforces to deal with their irrational criminal behavior, violent threats, and Treason. And because of "TAXES"? They don't pay taxes. They're on welfare.

>>92628

OP

yes, /liberty/ today looks a lot like 4chan did from around 2013-2016ish; people who were conscious of the importance of morality, good culture and patriotism but understanding that a huge state generally works against said principles. The few natsocs that run around get called out for their bullshit and since they are in smaller numbers they cant just mass spam "JEW JEW JEW YOU ARENT WHITE JIDF OK RABBI JEW JEW JEW" at everything you say. We combat it several ways, first of all by pointing out how autistic of a man hitler actually was, reading mein kampf was like pulling teeth, he screamed jew at the world , twas pretty kek. another good way to combat it is to point out that white people have traditionally held a commitment to the morals and liberty that national socialism jammed down the shitter. pointing out that even welfare state tier socialism feeds the worst of society or how sexually degenerate nazi germany was or that national socialism is modeled at least partly on a post modernist worldview. Neo/cultural marxism caries the same philosophical virus. I love my fellow white people a great deal but natsocs are genuinely the lowest of the low as far as white people are concerned. They are generally low functioning low productivity people that believe the world ought to fall into their lap, they scream that banking is jewish instead of trying to understand and make use of it, they have a bizarre victor / victim complex thats actually very similar to a lot of blacks "I AM SUPER OPPRESSED AND I WUZ ROBBED OF MUH KANGHOOD N SHEEEEEIT AND I IZ SO WEAK AND ALSO KILL (insert group here)". They are basically bitches. They whine and complain and actively tear down even other right wing people who try to leave the natsoc plantation that is their mothers basement, just like the niggers they so hate. Another great similarity is that the most ghetto hood rat black people will act like the most hood ratted negros in the world then as soon as you even vaguely question their behavior yell out "WHAT?? YOU SAYIN I IZ A NIGGA???? U A RAYCIS!!!" natsocs speak in exceedingly unethical and illogically violent ways and wait for someone to call them a name "WHAT YOURE SAYING IM AN EVIL NAHDZEE??? THAT IM HATEFUL??????" as soon as you diffuse it by saying "nah dude you are just dumb" they kind of dont know what to do, they either expect fanatical support or absolute hatred both of which acts as a kind of punishment and validation, which is why when you express "let me explain why you are wrong" they lose their shit and start yelling about what a jew you are and how you like your wife raped by tyrone and such. The mistake we make is to compare them to communists who have much higher ability to actually accomplish things and are ideologically dissimilar.

To answer your question, educate until they try to take away your liberty.

>>95649

In a general sense, they are just as toxic on the horseshoe thoery with a few caveats.

Legit communists are smarter than natsocs and tend to contain their autistic banter to the facts of social systems rather than sexualize symbols to peacuck their microdick.

They're not talking about politics. Communists can talk about politics. Jason Unruhe talks about politics and facts where Spencer's gifts invokes every not argument spook in the book. Then NPI useful idiots invite Duganist marxists ex-KGB agents with a hardon for Joseph Stalin. Business investors are not lining up to give a shit about muh ethnostatist. They're investing in china and westernized free market zones. Faux Idpol is a first world red herring for democrats to avoid criticism for increasingly onerous taxation schemes.

It's 2019. These guys are wasting our fucking time.

It's fascinating that 8/pol/ actually declined harder than 4/pol/ in the same period. Imagine that back in 2014 somebody could actually argue against fucking Holocaust denial without the thread devolving into autistic screeching.

>>95696

/pol/'s world view is actually pretty simple:

>National Socialism (as existing in Germany from 33 to 45) is the highest and most legitimate expression of the political will of white people

>nearly the same applies to lesser to other fascist and right-wing authoritarian figures and movements (e.g. Franco, Mussolini, the Iron Guard etc)

>Jews have hyperagency and most bad things happening in the past 2000 years can be attributed to them

>>95710

National socialism that had control over most germanic nations at the early part of the war lost to slavic communists and pro liberty mutts/anglos/frenchmen tho. kinda blows the ideological and ethnic supremacy of muh german national socialism out of the water. inb4 DA JOOOS , maybe so but that in and of itself would be admitting that aryans<jews. Also failing to credit meds and anglos properly is a huge historical gap of NS types .

>>95712

>[insert incoherent babbling about Roman Emperors being secret Germanics here]

>>95713

>>95728

fine, ler's look at the rest of history. Mediterraneans, specifically grecco-roman/italians, held the keys of power, technology and wealth from around the end of the persian empire (BC) to the 1400-1500s, During said time to roman empire, roman catholic church, Byzantine empire and Renaissance era italian city states were the glue that held europe together and the driver that pushed for a better future (not always, the church certainly had flaws but still) the balance of power then shifted to the Iberians for around 100-200 years. It was not until 1700 when the UK emerged as a global superpower, followed by the US in the early 1900s. The mantel passed from meds to anglo/celtic people. If we are honest, hitler needed some kind of reasoning for why his nation should invade slavic land so he came up with basically arbitrary standards and/or complete horseshit to do so;

>THE SLAVS HAVE NO SOUL OR CREATIVITY

>W-we are tall that makes us better

>we are more creative and intelligent than everyone else

>>>>>MUH EYES

>>>>>>>MUH HAIR

it was and is a white version of some BLMfaggot who has no job, life or moral/logical basis for his thoughts saying

MUH DICK

there is nothing objectively superior about "aryans", at least whites can point to IQ.

Their own bizarre image of jews is contradictory . objectively inferior yet somehow in control of everything. screaming DA JOOS at every national socialist failure is exactly like a black person saying WE WUZ BLAK KANGZZZ N SHEEEIT N PERFECT BUT EVIL INFERIOR WHITE DEVIL OPPREESSIN USSS N SHEEEEEEEIT.

Incoherent victim-hood race rambling is the gayest , and the Nigglest thing anyone , especially a white man can do

as to the system of national socialism itself, that's largely self explanatory. For one thing, it is grossly incoherent in that we are to believe in the most brutal of natural and national competition in which war is nearly worshiped as that which drives invention, that which weeds out the strong from the weak; but at the same time

>n-no anon, we need a welfare state, dont be so heartless

>no anon we n-need to regulate corporations or uhh else they will compete in a survival of the fittest bout in which only a few will survive

>anon if we dont regulate corporations theyll control everything

>LOL LMAO ITS NATURAL ORDER THE STATE CONTROL EVERYTHING

>a-and the only way we can do that is to make sure private industry is controlled by the state , ehe-ehehe

>survival of the fittest is great, just not economically

Its so glaringly inconsistent and retarded that one can only conclude the vast amount of self described national socialists are probably low IQ economically dependent welfare sucking white people. They believe in natural selection but not for themselves because they know they would most likely cease to exist. Their ideology is so incoherent and so contradictory that their only response is to yell at you when you disagree "JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW'

TL;dr. national socialism may be the most retarded ideology widely practiced today on the right.

yes and no, that was a serious fuckup no doubt. But imagining that germany, a nation which the other powers of the world spent billions in dollars and millions in lives putting down a couple decades ago, would be allowed to invade as far as russia and as far as the english channel was peak delusion. The UK never would have allowed it and the US most certainly would never have allowed it.

>>92628

>>95649

>>95671

Whenever horseshoe theory is brought up

/pol/ is infested with spooks from the US and the country of very special people. They use C_INTELPR_ tactics to distract from information sharing.

If you are looking to convert people to libertarianism, you need to first clean house of the crypto-commie open-borders free-love feminazi faggots.

Anyone with even a room-temp IQ (that isn't soaked in recreational chemicals & ZOG propaganda) knows you can't import communists, socialists, & leftists from countries with no history or understanding of classical liberal principles into a country with generous welfare and expect to have a more libertarian society.

Third-way proponents understand that, and that's why many of them used to be libertarians.

Not that it matters. Most libertarians are rightly called lolbertarians b/c they are more interested in drugs, polyamory, feminism, & celebrating buggery, than protecting property and rights. Y'all pretty much fucked your movement.

When the inevitable balkanization of the US happens, you'll be forced to live with the commies, and you'll deserve everything that happens to you.

Fuck you brainwashed delusional faggots

Bumped

>>96573

Pull your heads out of your wife's bisexual lover's ass, you pieces of human garbage

Learn your enemy's ways, or off to gulag with you

>>96582

>>96572

>>96572

You are all worthless and weak

You deserve what happened to you, and what is going to happen

>>95714

Found the kike

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I will never understand high effort shitposting, particularly in slow boards.

>>96601

>>96602

>I will never understand

FIFY

>>96605

Evidence that the Mossad was behind 9/11. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.

Israel has a large problem. Labor Zionism, which for 70 years has dominated the Zionist movement, has generated a stalled and shackled economy. Efforts to salvage Israel’s socialist institutions—which include pursuing supranational over national sovereignty and pursuing a peace process that embraces the slogan, "New Middle East"—undermine the legitimacy of the nation and lead Israel into strategic paralysis and the previous government’s "peace process." That peace process obscured the evidence of eroding national critical mass— including a palpable sense of national exhaustion—and forfeited strategic initiative. The loss of national critical mass was illustrated best by Israel’s efforts to draw in the United States to sell unpopular policies domestically, to agree to negotiate sovereignty over its capital, and to respond with resignation to a spate of terror so intense and tragic that it deterred Israelis from engaging in normal daily functions, such as commuting to work in buses.

Benjamin Netanyahu’s government comes in with a new set of ideas. While there are those who will counsel continuity, Israel has the opportunity to make a clean break; it can forge a peace process and strategy based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism, the starting point of which must be economic reform. To secure the nation’s streets and borders in the immediate future, Israel can:

Work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of its most dangerous threats. This implies clean break from the slogan, "comprehensive peace" to a traditional concept of strategy based on balance of power.

Change the nature of its relations with the Palestinians, including upholding the right of hot pursuit for self defense into all Palestinian areas and nurturing alternatives to Arafat’s exclusive grip on Palestinian society.

Forge a new basis for relations with the United States—stressing self-reliance, maturity, strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents economic reform.

This report is written with key passages of a possible speech marked TEXT, that highlight the clean break which the new government has an opportunity to make. The body of the report is the commentary explaining the purpose and laying out the strategic context of the passages.

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>>96609

A New Approach to Peace

Early adoption of a bold, new perspective on peace and security is imperative for the new prime minister. While the previous government, and many abroad, may emphasize "land for peace"— which placed Israel in the position of cultural, economic, political, diplomatic, and military retreat — the new government can promote Western values and traditions. Such an approach, which will be well received in the United States, includes "peace for peace," "peace through strength" and self reliance: the balance of power.

A new strategy to seize the initiative can be introduced:

TEXT:

We have for four years pursued peace based on a New Middle East. We in Israel cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent. Peace depends on the character and behavior of our foes. We live in a dangerous neighborhood, with fragile states and bitter rivalries. Displaying moral ambivalence between the effort to build a Jewish state and the desire to annihilate it by trading "land for peace" will not secure "peace now." Our claim to the land —to which we have clung for hope for 2000 years–is legitimate and noble. It is not within our own power, no matter how much we concede, to make peace unilaterally. Only the unconditional acceptance by Arabs of our rights, especially in their territorial dimension, "peace for peace," is a solid basis for the future.

Israel’s quest for peace emerges from, and does not replace, the pursuit of its ideals. The Jewish people’s hunger for human rights — burned into their identity by a 2000-year old dream to live free in their own land — informs the concept of peace and reflects continuity of values with Western and Jewish tradition. Israel can now embrace negotiations, but as means, not ends, to pursue those ideals and demonstrate national steadfastness. It can challenge police states; enforce compliance of agreements; and insist on minimal standards of accountability.

Securing the Northern Border

Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including by:

striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which focuses on Razi Qanan.

paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.

striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at select targets in Syria proper.

Israel also can take this opportunity to remind the world of the nature of the Syrian regime. Syria repeatedly breaks its word. It violated numerous agreements with the Turks, and has betrayed the United States by continuing to occupy Lebanon in violation of the Taef agreement in 1989. Instead, Syria staged a sham election, installed a quisling regime, and forced Lebanon to sign a "Brotherhood Agreement" in 1991, that terminated Lebanese sovereignty. And Syria has begun colonizing Lebanon with hundreds of thousands of Syrians, while killing tens of thousands of its own citizens at a time, as it did in only three days in 1983 in Hama.

Under Syrian tutelage, the Lebanese drug trade, for which local Syrian military officers receive protection payments, flourishes. Syria’s regime supports the terrorist groups operationally and financially in Lebanon and on its soil. Indeed, the Syrian-controlled Bekaa Valley in Lebanon has become for terror what the Silicon Valley has become for computers. The Bekaa Valley has become one of the main distribution sources, if not production points, of the "supernote" — counterfeit US currency so well done that it is impossible to detect.

Text:

Negotiations with repressive regimes like Syria’s require cautious realism. One cannot sensibly assume the other side’s good faith. It is dangerous for Israel to deal naively with a regime murderous of its own people, openly aggressive toward its neighbors, criminally involved with international drug traffickers and counterfeiters, and supportive of the most deadly terrorist organizations.

Given the nature of the regime in Damascus, it is both natural and moral that Israel abandon the slogan "comprehensive peace" and move to contain Syria, drawing attention to its weapons of mass destruction program, and rejecting "land for peace" deals on the Golan Heights.

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>>96610

Moving to a Traditional Balance of Power Strategy

TEXT:

We must distinguish soberly and clearly friend from foe. We must make sure that our friends across the Middle East never doubt the solidity or value of our friendship.

Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions. Jordan has challenged Syria's regional ambitions recently by suggesting the restoration of the Hashemites in Iraq. This has triggered a Jordanian-Syrian rivalry to which Asad has responded by stepping up efforts to destabilize the Hashemite Kingdom, including using infiltrations. Syria recently signaled that it and Iran might prefer a weak, but barely surviving Saddam, if only to undermine and humiliate Jordan in its efforts to remove Saddam.

But Syria enters this conflict with potential weaknesses: Damascus is too preoccupied with dealing with the threatened new regional equation to permit distractions of the Lebanese flank. And Damascus fears that the 'natural axis' with Israel on one side, central Iraq and Turkey on the other, and Jordan, in the center would squeeze and detach Syria from the Saudi Peninsula. For Syria, this could be the prelude to a redrawing of the map of the Middle East which would threaten Syria's territorial integrity.

Since Iraq's future could affect the strategic balance in the Middle East profoundly, it would be understandable that Israel has an interest in supporting the Hashemites in their efforts to redefine Iraq, including such measures as: visiting Jordan as the first official state visit, even before a visit to the United States, of the new Netanyahu government; supporting King Hussein by providing him with some tangible security measures to protect his regime against Syrian subversion; encouraging — through influence in the U.S. business community — investment in Jordan to structurally shift Jordan’s economy away from dependence on Iraq; and diverting Syria’s attention by using Lebanese opposition elements to destabilize Syrian control of Lebanon.

Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.

King Hussein may have ideas for Israel in bringing its Lebanon problem under control. The predominantly Shia population of southern Lebanon has been tied for centuries to the Shia leadership in Najf, Iraq rather than Iran. Were the Hashemites to control Iraq, they could use their influence over Najf to help Israel wean the south Lebanese Shia away from Hizballah, Iran, and Syria. Shia retain strong ties to the Hashemites: the Shia venerate foremost the Prophet’s family, the direct descendants of which — and in whose veins the blood of the Prophet flows — is King Hussein.

Changing the Nature of Relations with the Palestinians

Israel has a chance to forge a new relationship between itself and the Palestinians. First and foremost, Israel’s efforts to secure its streets may require hot pursuit into Palestinian-controlled areas, a justifiable practice with which Americans can sympathize.

A key element of peace is compliance with agreements already signed. Therefore, Israel has the right to insist on compliance, including closing Orient House and disbanding Jibril Rujoub’s operatives in Jerusalem. Moreover, Israel and the United States can establish a Joint Compliance Monitoring Committee to study periodically whether the PLO meets minimum standards of compliance, authority and responsibility, human rights, and judicial and fiduciary accountability.

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>>96611

TEXT:

We believe that the Palestinian Authority must be held to the same minimal standards of accountability as other recipients of U.S. foreign aid. A firm peace cannot tolerate repression and injustice. A regime that cannot fulfill the most rudimentary obligations to its own people cannot be counted upon to fulfill its obligations to its neighbors.

Israel has no obligations under the Oslo agreements if the PLO does not fulfill its obligations. If the PLO cannot comply with these minimal standards, then it can be neither a hope for the future nor a proper interlocutor for present. To prepare for this, Israel may want to cultivate alternatives to Arafat’s base of power. Jordan has ideas on this.

To emphasize the point that Israel regards the actions of the PLO problematic, but not the Arab people, Israel might want to consider making a special effort to reward friends and advance human rights among Arabs. Many Arabs are willing to work with Israel; identifying and helping them are important. Israel may also find that many of her neighbors, such as Jordan, have problems with Arafat and may want to cooperate. Israel may also want to better integrate its own Arabs.

Forging A New U.S.-Israeli Relationship

In recent years, Israel invited active U.S. intervention in Israel’s domestic and foreign policy for two reasons: to overcome domestic opposition to "land for peace" concessions the Israeli public could not digest, and to lure Arabs — through money, forgiveness of past sins, and access to U.S. weapons — to negotiate. This strategy, which required funneling American money to repressive and aggressive regimes, was risky, expensive, and very costly for both the U.S. and Israel, and placed the United States in roles is should neither have nor want.

Israel can make a clean break from the past and establish a new vision for the U.S.-Israeli partnership based on self-reliance, maturity and mutuality — not one focused narrowly on territorial disputes. Israel’s new strategy — based on a shared philosophy of peace through strength — reflects continuity with Western values by stressing that Israel is self-reliant, does not need U.S. troops in any capacity to defend it, including on the Golan Heights, and can manage its own affairs. Such self-reliance will grant Israel greater freedom of action and remove a significant lever of pressure used against it in the past.

To reinforce this point, the Prime Minister can use his forthcoming visit to announce that Israel is now mature enough to cut itself free immediately from at least U.S. economic aid and loan guarantees at least, which prevent economic reform. [Military aid is separated for the moment until adequate arrangements can be made to ensure that Israel will not encounter supply problems in the means to defend itself]. As outlined in another Institute report, Israel can become self-reliant only by, in a bold stroke rather than in increments, liberalizing its economy, cutting taxes, relegislating a free-processing zone, and selling-off public lands and enterprises — moves which will electrify and find support from a broad bipartisan spectrum of key pro-Israeli Congressional leaders, including Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.

Israel can under these conditions better cooperate with the U.S. to counter real threats to the region and the West’s security. Mr. Netanyahu can highlight his desire to cooperate more closely with the United States on anti-missile defense in order to remove the threat of blackmail which even a weak and distant army can pose to either state. Not only would such cooperation on missile defense counter a tangible physical threat to Israel’s survival, but it would broaden Israel’s base of support among many in the United States Congress who may know little about Israel, but care very much about missile defense. Such broad support could be helpful in the effort to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

To anticipate U.S. reactions and plan ways to manage and constrain those reactions, Prime Minister Netanyahu can formulate the policies and stress themes he favors in language familiar to the Americans by tapping into themes of American administrations during the Cold War which apply well to Israel. If Israel wants to test certain propositions that require a benign American reaction, then the best time to do so is before November, 1996.

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>>96612

Conclusions: Transcending the Arab-Israeli Conflict

TEXT: Israel will not only contain its foes; it will transcend them.

Notable Arab intellectuals have written extensively on their perception of Israel’s floundering and loss of national identity. This perception has invited attack, blocked Israel from achieving true peace, and offered hope for those who would destroy Israel. The previous strategy, therefore, was leading the Middle East toward another Arab-Israeli war. Israel’s new agenda can signal a clean break by abandoning a policy which assumed exhaustion and allowed strategic retreat by reestablishing the principle of preemption, rather than retaliation alone and by ceasing to absorb blows to the nation without response.

Israel’s new strategic agenda can shape the regional environment in ways that grant Israel the room to refocus its energies back to where they are most needed: to rejuvenate its national idea, which can only come through replacing Israel’s socialist foundations with a more sound footing; and to overcome its "exhaustion," which threatens the survival of the nation.

Ultimately, Israel can do more than simply manage the Arab-Israeli conflict though war. No amount of weapons or victories will grant Israel the peace its seeks. When Israel is on a sound economic footing, and is free, powerful, and healthy internally, it will no longer simply manage the Arab-Israeli conflict; it will transcend it. As a senior Iraqi opposition leader said recently: "Israel must rejuvenate and revitalize its moral and intellectual leadership. It is an important — if not the most important–element in the history of the Middle East." Israel — proud, wealthy, solid, and strong — would be the basis of a truly new and peaceful Middle East.

Participants in the Study Group on "A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000:"

Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader

James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs

Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS

Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates

Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies

Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies

Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University

http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.ht

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>>96613

So: No swastikas or NatSoc prop, no n_gger hate, just a big fact dump.

Anybody else wonder why (((they))) are here, posting insane, counterproductive philonazi horseshit, low-information content racist memes, and generally engaging in every form of C_INTELPR_ in the book?

The more you know.

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>>96616

If you really want to know what's going on with the "alt-retards", then you need to know what they know.

Otherwise, it's impossible to understand their position, and how you might persuade them otherwise.

However, fair warning: You don't change /pol/. /pol/ changes you.

>>96621

>Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>96635

>I don't care about da joos and all your other conspiracies

Then you don't care about the topic of this thread or truth, and are doomed to

end by the heel of a boot, or a trial. It matters not whether you are shill or 'tard. You are ill prepared for what is to come, whichever way it breaks. I'd wish you luck, but you're part of the problem.

Either way, your inability/unwillingness to face the truth, or engage in honest argumentation seals your fate.

Worse, you're tedious.

>>92628

Can you explain this to me, why poor oppressed Negroes can't builded a single civilization for more than 20 centuries and still live in mud huts and dependent on UN welfare support, when evil White supremacists evolved from forest savages to space explorers ?

>>92654

>while actual freedom-loving gun-owning conservative christians

Don't worry, these folks will soon take care about your 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

>>92894

>>93332

>jewish conspiracy doesn't exist, goy !

You come in the wrong place, bloodsucker.

>>102161

is picrel the proff of jewish conspiracy too?

>>102162

You're like a little uncircumsized baby, watch this…