No.105056
Theory: the reason libertarians aren't as active on 8chan compared to commies/fascists is because libertarians and people with libertarian sympathies/tendencies are more likely to be actually out building businesses, learning valuable skills for the labor market, improving themselves, etc
Left and right wing forms of collectivism are all about scapegoating other people for your poor choices/inadequacy/mental issues and hoping an authoritarian ruler can swoop in and fix everything.
Libertarianism (in most forms) is the only political philosophy that actually improves your life via a philosophy of self-ownership and personal responsibility.
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No.105058
I tried to meet with libertarians before. Libertarian sympathies describes most highly functional people, but actual libertarians-as-such get targeted for harassment. They stay low because they don’t hate people enough to believe that an omnipotent government has to beat people into compliance for society to function. That belief in a self-organizing society means to people trained on NationStates (aka Nazi-sim) that libertarians have “no empathy”, so libertarians are “fair” for “reciprocation”. In reality, people are just revealing what they hate about other people so much that they want the government to take from people the right to vary on targeted metrics.
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No.105061
>>105056
>>105058
Sound like petty excuses and rationalization of failure and apathy to me. The fact is that no matter how decent and adequate libertarians are, if we fail to make an effort to defeat totalitarian ideologies, all the important shit we think we are doing for our own lives will be useless in the long run.
For all intents and purpose, you might as well not be libertarians at all as it will make no difference if you are or aren't, you are just part-timers who come to chat about intellectual topics, complain about things you can't fix, pat each other on the backs for being "right" and "based", and then go back to doing nothing. It's a horrible mix of mental masturbation, ego-stroking, and high IQ whining. Kinda pathetic, tbh.
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No.105063
>>105061
>Defeat totalitarian regimes
Nigger, every single state in history has defeated itself. We are essentially in the waiting room of collapse, there are very few things to be done to speed up this process, and those things take very little time invested. Why not do what you want in the meantime?
<BOMB THE US GOVERNMENT, OTHERWISE ANCAP WILL NEVER HAPPEN LOOOL
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No.105064
>>105063
>Defeat totalitarian regimes
I didn't say anything about regimes, I said defeat totalitarian ideologies. And we don't exactly end up with an ancap paradise each time a state collapses, the cycle of one totalitarian state replacing another will continue until either the planet becomes uninhabitable, or all triple-digit IQ races go extinct.
<BOMB THE US GOVERNMENT
I'm not American, don't put words in my mouth, FBI.
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No.105073
>>105064
>Totalitarian ideologies
Totalitarianism (the ideology) poses no threat on its own, retard. Totalitarianism is only threatening with the power of a state behind it. To say that you want to defeat the ideology means you want to defeat the state that represents the ideology, right? If not, explain to me how the ideology on its own (without a state) is a problem, and how it can be 'defeated'.
>We never end up in ancap after collapse
What are you basing this opinion from? Even if it is for a short while, while there is no state (because it collapsed), we are essentially free, even if we aren't in your "ancap utopia".
>The collapsed state will be replaced by another state
So what do you expect anyone to do right now to solve this problem? You can only "make an effort" on this sort of thing once collapse happens. Like I said the things that could be done to solve this problem take very little time investment, eg. Promote/own guns/crypto, so why not do what you want in the meantime?
>Don't put words in my mouth, FBI
I will put whatever I want into your boi pußi mouth because I am the FBI.
Go back to your foul gay/furry/anime spinoff of liberty, you fuckin molerat, nobody asked you what we should be doing.
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No.105079
>>105056
Libertarians get openly attacked on this platform (we're actually BANNED on /k/ post-Aussie shitposting because Greeceball is a massive fucking faggot who even deletes shit in the meta thread to keep BO from seeing it, and we were basically driven away from /pol/ when imkampfy took the reigns back in the day), and frankly outside of /liberty/ the amount of NEETSoc circlejerking is ridiculous. Many imageboard users have one or two libertarian sympathies, otherwise they wouldn't be on 8chan in the first place, but it's drowned out by the ocean of Nazi piss.
In real life, libertarians are too busy virtue-signaling to each other over what is and isn't libertarianism while trying to appeal to others. The normalfag libertarians believe in shit like open borders (no proper open borders, but mass illegal immigration without thinking of the repercussions), and the more "right-wing" libertarians inevitably end up going to some stupid protest or another and get labeled as nazis/get their lives ruined by internet trolls. Fuck all that noise.
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No.105080
>>105056
Every single libertardian I know is a virgin and plays video games. Also it's funny how you judge collectivists collectively.
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No.105082
>>105079
/k/ is shit now even without the fetanigger gyropocket. It's all armchair generals and noguns eurotrash, they're either jerking it to warcrimes or declaring that my tank is better than your tank. And the NEETSoc circlejerk hit ridiculous levels long ago.
>when you're a Hungarian, a Pole, and a Greek that worship Hitler but you call everyone else a cuck
Also Confederate-Chan belongs in the bottom right.
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No.105084
>>105073
>Totalitarianism (the ideology) poses no threat on its own, retard. Totalitarianism is only threatening with the power of a state behind it. To say that you want to defeat the ideology means you want to defeat the state that represents the ideology, right? If not, explain to me how the ideology on its own (without a state) is a problem, and how it can be 'defeated'.
I don't see what's so hard to understand here, until you prove that the state is not the only way to organize a society, people will always turn to some form statism to run society and create another state to replace one that's collapsed.
>Even if it is for a short while, while there is no state (because it collapsed), we are essentially free
Running away from violent gangs until a bigger gang absorbs the tinier gangs doesn't exactly sound like freedom. By this logic, dumping all ancaps in the middle of the Sahara with no food and water would also be "freedom".
>even if we aren't in your "ancap utopia"
I never said "utopia", stop putting words in my mouth.
>So what do you expect anyone to do right now to solve this problem?
Nigga, there's a shitton of work to be done if you weren't an emasculated nominal libertarian, the harvest is plentiful but the labourers are few.
>I will put whatever I want into your boi pußi mouth
Is that the shit you fap to? Gross.
>Go back to your foul gay/furry/anime spinoff of liberty, you fuckin molerat, nobody asked you what we should be doing.
kek, eat shit and clorox, BO.
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No.105086
>>105080
If you believe in collectivist theory, you deserve to be judged collectively on the actions of the few.
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No.105140
>>105056
>libertarian
pssh.
<this person does not look like they should be holding a gun based on the hand gesture.
<but at least there's no police. you're safe.
Annd…
> more likely to be actually out building businesses
na d00d. farms and guns
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No.105147
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No.105173
>>105140
><this person does not look like they should be holding a gun based on the hand gesture.
it's from a tv show you dumbass, gun is a prop
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No.105230
>>105056
Per capita libertarians (not lolbertarians who encompass mostly all the visible libertarians) do not exist. The fact that they even register on 8chan shows that they are hugely over represented on this site.
I know it’s hard, but quit being a faggot.
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No.105232
>>105230
>Per capita libertarians (not lolbertarians who encompass mostly all the visible libertarians) do not exist
You're implying lolbergs are more common than paleolibertarians, which isn't the case. Three quarters of polled libertarians are socially conservative and in favor of restrictive immigration. The libertine dildotarians simply have a much louder voice on social media.
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No.105233
>>105232
>keeps bringing up immigration in every thread
At this point I'm convinced you're baiting.
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No.105367
>>105232
>Three quarters of polled libertarians are socially conservative and in favor of restrictive immigration.
So basically they are state cucks.
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No.105370
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No.105376
>>105370
I will import niggers to do nigger-tier work on my own property, and a nigger like you can't stop me, nigger.
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No.105381
>>105376
They can when niggers like me own every road between your property and the only thing nigger preserve around.
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No.105382
>>105376
Oh wow, people actually save my OC.
>>105381
>They can when niggers like me own every road between your property
>good luck, I'm behind 7000 private covenants!
We need to meme this.
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No.105388
>>105381
>They can when niggers like me own every road between your property and the only thing nigger preserve around.
Nobody owns public property faggot. If anyone does, it would be the highest tax contributor, not the collective taxpayer, since property cannot be owned by more than one person.
Even considering this, would it not be better if a thief were relieved of their stolen property, even if it weren't to be returned to the original owners?
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No.105390
>>105388
>niggers like me own every road
>REEEEEEE PUBLIC PROPERTY OPEN BORDERS, NO PERSON IS ILLEGAL
All right, I'm convinced you don't actually read any post to which you respond, and this is just a chatbot algorithm for signaling how much you love to watch niggers move across the arbitrary line of your wife's hymen.
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No.105391
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No.105392
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No.105396
>>105392
>>105390
Legitimately made me laugh
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No.105407
>>105388
Jesus Christ, you are one dumb fuck, lol.
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No.105416
>>105232
I hope you are right. I haven’t encountered it in person.
>>105392
Also, do not feed glow niggers.
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No.105421
>>105416
Most socially conservative types are quieter about their political views, and don't see a need to shout them from the rooftops. As a result they tend to be underrepresented through casual observation.
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No.105422
>>105056
>scapegoating other people for your poor choices/inadequacy/mental issues
Wow. Didn't realize it was the libertaians who were the capitalist victim blamers. Fuck libertarians!
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No.105424
>>105422
This guy just killed libertarianism with his stupidity.
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No.105425
>>105424
I mean the guy he's quoting who is a victim blamer.
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