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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.100380

Okay /liberty/ (or any of our visitors), riddle me this:

>/pol/acks don't want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would racemix and Jews would subvert us

>/leftypol/ does not want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would discriminate against minorities

In other words, the fascists think that everyone is an SJW unless the state intervenes, and the SJW's think that everyone is a fascist unless the state intervenes. Both assume that people are naturally incapable of doing good, even though both have diametrically opposed conceptions of what is good.

How can that not cause anyone to have a moment of big thunk? Why are fascists not reassured by the fears of SJW's, and vice versa? My guess is, this is another case of the two ideologies of progressivism and slightly more right-wing progressivism being suspiciously close to each other, this time in a more psychological way. Both fascists and SJW's share not just the same authoritarian sentiment, but also the same misanthropic, paranoid streak.

I ignored correct labeling, for the sake of convenience. I don't care if these right-wing authoritarians are actually fascists or not, or if the left-wingers who are afraid of racism are SJW's or black supremacist Maoists.

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 No.100390

>>100380

>Why are fascists not reassured by the fears of SJW's, and vice versa?

The mind works in mysterious ways, and statists are notorious for their retardation.

That being said, I dont think people's fears ever reassure other people's fears. For fascists the gov isnt fascist enough, and for SJW's it's not SJW enough. I dont see how SJW's should be reassured by fascists thinking the gov isnt fascist enough.

In the end, statism is built on fear, and voting is just a way of attempting to enforce your will on your neighbors through proxy. It's not just fear what we're dealing with, people think they know what's best for others, better than they do themselves. The ruling class is an extreme example of this, but it's the same mindset I see with pretty much every other statist.

Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

In poker there is this saying: "Do not try to understand the fish (bad players), because they don't even know what they are doing themselves"

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 No.100393

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>>100380

>>/pol/acks don't want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would racemix and Jews would subvert us

the main argumenta I hear from /pol/acks about opposing libertarianism are these

>monopolies, cartels

>muh Jewish libertarianism

>degeneracy

>free trade = globalism

>immigration

>well being of society

>>/leftypol/ does not want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would discriminate against minorities

leftypol uses these arguments

>it's a return to feudalism

>capitalism had contradictions

>you can't do capitalism

>muh equality

etc

>Both assume that people are naturally incapable of doing good, even though both have diametrically opposed conceptions of what is good.

that's easily refutable. show them pic related

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 No.100482

>>100390

>Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

Funny you mention that, I am currently writing an essay on this very topic, on how we should not just live for politics. Because, I swear, people these days need to be told how to breath. It doesn't occur to them that they might be depressed and blackpilled because all they ever do throughout the day is to read the news. You have little shits who have never worked a day in their life, never been to gym, and never kissed a girl, but because they read a bit and hang out on /pol/ often, they are confident that someone's going to read their manifesto. Remember "Unionism"? That kind of thing.

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 No.100522

>>100482

Yeah, idiots use terms like "the Great Awakening" and axtually think questioning politics is anything new.

People think the masses are getting smarter and are "waking up" but IMHO they are clearly getting dumber by the day. People weren't so incredibly conformist and gullibe back in the day. They all just scream "woke" while being a dependent little statist.

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