14345b No.643359 [View All]
Post your planefu.
Mine pic related
Da.
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f189b1 No.659217
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8508a0 No.659454
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122831 No.659459
>>654930
Careful now or the ameritard is gonna make you believe those plane ever flew over the soviet union.
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c17806 No.659855
>>659459
SR71 were flying over Kola and Vladivostok all the fucking time, Frog.
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63d75d No.666757
>>644615
should have covers on the spares, just saying, for truely finished look.
plus, chicks can perch themselves on the covered spares to pose without tire-black rubbing off on their clothes.
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0587e6 No.667067
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dc5666 No.667073
>>667067
>1st pic
Why are its engines naked?
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0587e6 No.667076
>>667073
May be tanned or old
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fb7a3b No.669363
>>643359
>Su-34
Perfect.
Mine is the F8 Crusader.
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fb7a3b No.669364
>>647719
>Brutality has a beauty on its own.
I concur.
>Foxbat
>Foxhound
Top-tier tbqh.
I wish that they would continue this line though.
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2e18bc No.669377
>>669363
Not bad flipbro. I think the Su-37 and F-15E Strike Eagle are my favorites though.
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b5c395 No.669388
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b46582 No.669409
>>659855
>SR71 were flying over Kola and Vladivostok all the fucking time, Frog.
No they weren't. They were skimming the border at best, typically not even that and using the stupid high altitude angles to take photos of the ports. They were in the soviet ADIZ, and getting chased but they were extremely careful as to not cross into soviet territory, and stay over international waters (as they would be fired upon the second they crossed). It's why they had SIDE LOOKING instruments. They might have crossed it on some occasions in places that you can do so in an instant at that speed (sakhaline and cie) but typically they just didn't.
And once the MiG-31/SA-10 came online they never got within a 60 to 70 miles of the border without getting locked.
(As for detection the soviet PVO knew they were coming HOURS before, since they just monitored what the tankers were doing instead of looking for the smaller stealthier plane constantly planes. Something the US has just figure out… and is finally making smaller and stealthier tankers).
Which is why they were retired… because they costed a lot and provided nothing the ONI, NRO and the CIA couldn't get other ways. So once the "blackbird mafia" which was a thing, as recon pilots were, decorated, promoted higher and more often than the others, retired from the USAF the whole thing was promptly and JUSTLY shut down.
"It never was shotdown" is fucking propaganda because as far as anyone can tell, it never was fired upon either as it stayed safely over international waters.
Because flying inside the soviet union borders stopped with the introduction of the SA-2, the shot down of the U2 and Khrushchev humiliating the US politicians in front of everyone (Khrushchev purposely let the US react first which they did by doing what they always do: covering it up. They pretending the U-2 was a NASA "weather plane" doing research lost over Turkey, with a famous photo of the U-2 in NASA color, then the USSR stated "Oh yeah we did shot something some days ago". So the US went in instant outrage mode "How dare you shoot our civilians scientists!!", then Khrushchev went to the UN and said "Oh yeah, we did shot it down… but he's not dead and he's certainly not saying he's a scientist nor does the plane, which we also have most of it, is a science plane". Eisenhower almost resigned over it).
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9b9915 No.669422
>>669409
So is any proof of what you are saying or is this just another murican weak Soviet strong shit?
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f7cabc No.669424
>>669422
So is any proof of what you are saying or is this just another soviet weak murican strong shit?
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b46582 No.669509
>>669422
The most basic internet search (aka wiki) on the SR-71 equipment will tell you it had bays for the same equipment on both sides of the plane and that it's ground radar is a SIDE LOOKING radar, contrary to down/front looking radar you would have on a regular plane.
That way you planed the loop you wanted to do, mounted the gear on the port/starboard side of the plane so that it was on the exterior side of the loop. And then they would tilt the plane to the proper angle to get the shots (though it distort the image a bit).
The usefulness of such thing is completely dubious, especially when the NRO satellites were giving similar quality images, to much better ones. And once they had real time image satellites (1976) there was literally no use whatsoever for them.
The thing was the Lamborghini of the USAF, as pilots are all "rich kids-type" dickheads that want the "best aircraft", the one that can flight faster and higher than anyone else.
Except theirs was payed by the State instead of Dad's money.
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db7b06 No.669529
>>669509
It had side-looking radar so it could take pictures of targets protected by high-altitude SAMs. Every recon aircraft since the U-2 has this capability, the only planes using downward-looking sensors are strike fighters that don't have room for anything better and subsonic patrol planes that aren't likely to get shot at in the first place and need the extra resolution (and even those generally have provisions for side-looking sensors to compensate for the downward-looking sensor's narrow field of view).
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0a48ff No.669535
>>669509
The existence of side view cameras of SR-71 doesn't prove anything you just said though.
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b46582 No.669543
>>669535
>>669529
Well keep believing that a Mach 3 plane could "outrun enemy missiles" flying at least to Mach 4 that were shooting down Mach 3 targets all day every day.
Or better yet find a source saying they DID flew over the soviet union.
Because I guarantee you you won't find any.
Because they never did.
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0a48ff No.669552
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b46582 No.669604
>>669552
That's probably real it's Sweden if they don't give out medals for imaginary reason they wouldn't have given any in the last 200 years, but if you read it they state specifically that the planes never went to soviet airspace.
The rest is the healthy paranoia brought on by the fact that in 50's mostly, the soviet did shoot down a lot of USAF recon plane OUTSIDE their airspace. Since they couldn't intercept the U2s and their predecessors, the RB-57, they settled for shooting any recon/ELINT plane coming near them.
After Powers' U2 was shot down, the US stopped their overhead fly of the USSR. And in turn the USSR stopped shooting US recon plane on sight, with the last one (a RB-47H) being shot down a month latter over the Barents Sea.
It's also why the blackbird mafia existed, they were promoted and decorated more because it really was a dangerous job, the USAF probably lost around a hundred of crewmen to soviet interceptions (let alone commies interception since NK, China, East-Germany, etc… did the same)… but it stopped to be past 1960, long before the SR-71 came along.
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0a48ff No.669677
>>669604
This is pretty much Soviet airspace:
>Back then, SR-71 Blackbirds based at RAF Mildenhall in the United Kingdom flew weekly missions out over the Baltic Sea, toward Soviet bases in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Kaliningrad. The SR-71s flew a loop that took them across the length of the Baltic States, then back around and in between the Swedish mainland and the island of Gotland.
I think the idea of Soviet SAM is overrated anyhow, Hanoi was bombed to shit by fucking B52, despite millions of SAM supplied by soviet and chinks.
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12f25e No.669687
>>669677
Ok so you don't know what "airspace" means.
Why do I bother…
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0a48ff No.669707
>>669687
https://www.quora.com/When-did-the-SR-71-make-its-first-flight-over-the-USSR-and-how-deep-into-Soviet-territory-did-it-go
Never mind, you are right.
Officially, they are just skirting over Soviet border.
But I don't see the difference tbh considering SR-71 flew over North Vietnam.
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ac29df No.686771
>>643392
I'm sorry but your wrong. The F16 and F15 can do everything the F20 can do. also the F15 can do it better.
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481d6e No.686937
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>>669707
SA-2 was the most modern SAM gooks had.
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3861b9 No.686940
>>686771
>The F16 can do everything the F20 can do.
Can it do it cheaper?
>also the F16 can do it better.
No it can't.
F-15 is an unfair comparison to F-20, don't be a jackass. Might as well say B-1B is superior to F-15 because it can carry more bombs.
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9cb6f9 No.687016
>>686940
>spoiler
Don't give them ideas.
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481d6e No.687095
>>687016
The B-1R is a legit idea.
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db7b06 No.687128
>>686937
You say that like the S-75 wasn't a huge threat to every other US aircraft at the time. We didn't develop effective SEAD or airborne jammers until around 1970, during that period the Blackbird was basically our only source of aerial recon for much of North Vietnam.
They also flew over Libya and North Korea, where they were routinely engaged by S-200s and MiG-25s (to no effect). Part of this is durka/nork incompetence obviously, but even on paper either of these would have struggled to intercept something so high and fast
The only weapons that could actually pose a real threat to Blackbirds were the S-300 and MiG-31, which weren't exported at all until long after the Blackbird was retired.
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481d6e No.687196
>>687128
The S-75 was a huge threat for high altitude heavy bombers, for a maneuverable target like a Phantom or Thunderchief it was a moderate threat and the main reason the dvina kicked so much yank ass was because it was greatly underestimated due to initial bad use by the gooks and because of the trees speaking secondary point defense anti-air making wild weasing really risky.
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660b91 No.687205
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660b91 No.687207
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660b91 No.687208
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c18ccd No.687239
>>654880
>It's like the most smug airplane design in history. Flaunting a fat, expensive ass in front of and directly above soviet airspace, and yet they can't touch.
Lewd as fuck, tbh.
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3861b9 No.687277
>>687196
>s-75 was
>was
it knocked down f117a plane stealthier than f35…. dont say 'was' until theyre all gone and no one is making them anymore.
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e8c44a No.687285
>>645811
In theory, yes.
The Su-34 has a "everything" radar. Ground avoidance, ground targeting, sea targeting, long range air radar as it's meant to be, well, the F-111 "done right" (well the late variants of the F-111 were ok). Long range air patrol, naval and ground strikes are it's job.
That might account for the design change.
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16f4cd No.687289
>>687277
>and no one is making them anymore
Leafanon I… no one is making them anymore except for the Chinese but these don't count, chinks also make their warheads by traditional chinese medicine blackpowder.
>>687277
>it knocked down f117a plane stealthier than f35
I specifically mentioned that they are a threat to aircraft that can't maneuver. You can't base your whole air-defense network on a 60 years old missile just in hope that Lockheeb will be able to kike the international market enough to force people buy the F-35.
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3e489e No.687291
>august 2018
>ministry of defense claims that they will announce a replacement for the Tornado before Christmas 2018
>august 2019
>still no announcement
>not even a plan or competition
>only new development going on is set to replace the Typhoon sometime in the next decades
Enjoy some transports while our airforce is slowly withering away.
>>669707
>quora as a source
Jesus Christ, have mercy.
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3e489e No.687292
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3e489e No.687294
And some not-nordic vikings.
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e8c44a No.687317
>>687291
The replacement is Dassault SCAF, they will prolong the typhoons and replace both.
Minister that made the buzz around the announcement wanted to announced the F-35 as a replacement and was given the boot 2 weeks before the date.
It might have been the only sane decision Merkel ever took.
Real problem are the A-400 clusterfuck and the CH-53 replacement (which frankly airbus helicopter should just acquire a full license to make them as there is no alternative and they're actually better than anything else on the market).
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16f4cd No.687318
>>687317
>It might have been the only sane decision Merkel ever took
Thankfully in her mind Murka is still a White-majority capitalist imperialist superpower.
>pic
>Dassault falling for the stealth maymay
Oh no.. oh nonononono….
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3e93ef No.687319
>>687318
Stealth? oh no no, friend. It has nothing to do with stealth, it is merely the new age style.
If you look closely there is a clear distinction between aircraft generations, from cloth wings, to props, to jets, to high tech jets. Now we are entering a re-cycle age, where things are simplified and streamlined. Add some dakka onto it and you have the new age dogfighter.
I mean we're still using 40-50 year old aircraft, it's time for something new. Give it time, in another 100 years all fighter craft will be triangles and will hardly resemble the jet of today. Your picture is just the jet of tomorrow :^)
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f30824 No.687418
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Cheney killed funding for the F-14 Tomcat. What a dick.
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16f4cd No.687425
>>687418
Please use all relevant info to bump my shit thread.
>>685871
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3e489e No.687553
>>687317
The replacement for the tornado hasn't been announced yet, and von der Leiden didn't "get the boot", she was promoted into an important position in the EU with a salary three to four times higher than her current one.
Her replacement is the woman who was recently voted as leader of Merkel's party. The position she got is known as the ejection seat of politics, because there is barely a politician who got it and managed to retire without a scandal or two.
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4b1a01 No.687563
>>643452
Privet, eta enjineer.
I haven't read it yet but you might find it interesting.
https://ufile.io/v9fgsdh3
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e8c44a No.687609
>>687553
>she was promoted into an important position in the EU with a salary three to four times higher than her current one.
And that's exactly the only way you can get rid of US shills in EU countries.
You can't actually fire them (let alone prosecute them for "intelligence with a foreign power" AKA treason), the only they can go is up and sideways, outside any actual decision process.
All EU presidents have always been US shills one more isn't hurting anyone (more than usual) and defense are still in hands of national countries and it's a job she couldn't say no to.
Now of course her presidency will focus on removing defense purview from EU nations, but they've been trying for decades and no general anywhere in the EU wants to hear about it, actually elected politicians know it's a terribly unpopular idea and the US generals too as all those cushy jobs in NATO would become largely irrelevant so they're using they're clout to say "EU defense means less NATO cooperation" every opportunity they get.
Again when I'm telling you it's the only smart decision Merkel ever took, I mean it. It's clearly calculated.
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f13f59 No.688678
Old love doesnt rust. Cant wait for the good old times to return.
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