/k/ - Weapons

Best full tang knife to start out with?

>>680876

I guess it's the same with butterfly knives, they are good enough to stab people.

What should I be aware of about old timer schrade knifes? I got a folding pen knife and sharpfinger one as a gift from christmas.

>>663596

Not retard proof, very easy to screw up. Lansky is a very primitive, crude, straightforard system. Should have bought the Spyderco sharpener, easier to use.

>>661228

Which company out of Solingen is the best for full tang legal knives in Germany?

>>677492

I haven't given mine the full run through, just light stuff and even cutting onions for cooking in the cabin. Haven't had to sharpen it yet, I suppose I need to get busy actually using it intead of babying it because its expensive.

where can i buy knifes from exotic materials? like, i would want one made out of bronze, or from smoothed stone, or from shark tooth

>>683562

>cold steel maymay knoife

Why? Just get a decent bowie somewhere else.

>>683563

Why would I do that though?

This one looks fine. I should avoid it just because it's Cold Steel?

>>683566

Because a Cold Steel knife will likely demand a much higher price than an equivalent competitor just because it's Cold Steel. People with good taste also find their tactical marketing extremely cringey, but if you have bad taste this might not apply to you. Becasue of these two facts, unless you're getting something that is offered only by Cold Steel and nobody else, such as the Tri-Ad lock, there's not much reason to buy anything from them.

>>683567

What do you mean man? Cold steel are generally affordable products and if care about their marketing enough to drop and otherwise great company that makes you a cuck. Cold steel offers full size s35vn folders for like a hundred bucks, that's a way better deal than spyderco, Benchmade, or many other big brands.

>>683566

Tbh if I were you I'd get a different cold steel or condor, thsie trench knives are pretty fucking heavy.

>>683569

Heavier than a regular tactical knife, but since I was tempted to add a sword to my belt, I might as well go for something that is easier to carry and go with a big knife instead.

>>586791

there was a utility knife (replacable blade) folder like this that i wanted to get but i forgot what it was.

any ideas? want a beater with a replaceable blade for opening boxes, mail, cutting paper, daily chore stuff i dont want to use my good knife on.

>>683770

Most tool companies have something like this and you can pick them up at like any hardware store.

>>683569

Perhaps things aren't quite the same now as they were before, or there's a smaller price difference on some classes of products compared to others. When I was last shopping for a knife, Cold Steel's options were ~40 burgerbux more expensive than the other models I was looking at.

>>683843

yeah but… i want a good one

>>683562

Do you guys know any other Bowie or big knife with a blade around 10 inches long and with a black coating? Ideally with a "tactical" plastic sheath.

All I found so far is that cheap Kershaw 10" knife but it's not a Bowie and it has a big belly so it's not great for stabbing and combat overall.

>>685304

The Becker BK-9 sounds like what you want. It doesn't come with a Kydex sheath but there are a lot of options on the aftermarket.

is there a knife i can reasonably get that has a 90deg point? i want a chisel-like tip, point for slicing thin materials accurately with a straightedge, blade for cutting rope and heavier sheeting. and some serration at the base for small branches or more stout materials

>>586439

a pair of scissors you dumb nigger. preferably safety scissors.

are you planning to do bic pen trachs or something?

>>685697

Imagine the daily barbecues at that place.

>>687145

>Pic related for 'killing other people wearing thick clothing' purposes.

Meh, I would just use a ball-peen hammer.

>>687148

I saw a video of a fella getting hit about a dozen times with a hammer and he was still standing. Nothing wrong with them inherently and they don't have an edge to maintain, but a dagger like that is surprisingly fast and has more stopping power in a sense: a hammer blow anywhere but the head likely won't incapacitate your attacker, but shove a foot of dagger anywhere near his centerline and he's had it, and will be down in seconds. A dagger like that is big enough to reach his heart if you stab him in the belly, or to get a double lung penetration from the side.

>>687149

Care to post that video?

I reckon a good hammer hit in the head, lung or heart can knock someone else. Then again, I'm loving blunt weapon lately.

>>687151

That vid is pretty conclusive, all I can say.

>>687151

>that sound when it hits the back of the head

Now that's pure kino

>>687154

Benefit of a hammer over the knife is that a knife is going to be seen as a weapon very easily, both by courts and your opponent. A hammer is relatively easy to explain in many situation. Just put a toolbox in your car and say you often do handymen stuff for friends.

And, as seen in the >>687151 vid, a guy can obviously have a hammer and his opponent isn't even on alert. Try doing that with a knife. (knife guy had his concealed in a handkerchief, probably a good idea)

>>687159

Man, that hammer design is basically the military warhammer design in medieval era.

It's great then and great now. Put it on a shaft and you got an awesome polehammer.

>>687160

There are better hammer designs for the purpose of wrecking people, but they reach a point where trying to explain it as defending yourself with a tool becomes very questionable: a mason's hammer is probably one of the best tools for this task: has good weight, nice hammer design, with a chisel on the back end, with the same curve as a framing hammer. You can get them with a longer handle than most hammers as well, but typically framing hammers have the most weight potential for a true hammer setup. Unless you're a mason, or have an aleibi that you just got done helping your friend/family member redo their patio - good luck explaining why you have it.

Geological hammer: it's a small smashy head paired with a pick. Pick head has a great contour, and is focal enough to easily penetrate a skull/torso. Caveats: small handle, light weight, and no way in hell you're gonna convince anyone you just so happened to be carrying one at the scene.

I'd recommend buying some carpenter's pants: they have a holster on the thigh for a hammer tool. You can comfortably carry your hammer around in the open without too many questions, and it's readily accessible if you need it. Pair this with a blue collar job, and you have a pretty strong defense in the courts.

>>687162

I know you're probably just enjoying the fun of having a mace, but they do make sledgehammers, strelok. I've got a 6lb and 8lb sledge that I've put a lot of miles on. Granted, the setup is 2 handed, but you could easily get a 2-4lb head, and put it on a smaller handle. I don't quite get how a rounded handle is gonna give you any advantage over an optimized oval handle. I know you said "strike from any angle", but flicking your wrist to strike inwards or outwards with the head almost completely defeats the point of kinetic energy transfer a standard swing is going to give you. It might stun them, or confuse them a little, but you're not fighting someone who's gonna have a realistic counter to a club anyways so just stick to the tried and true hits. Even if you fuck up, you still will have them on the ropes, whereas a fuckup with a flick attack can mean disarming yourself from hyperextension, or being disarmed because you didn't deliver enough energy fast enough, and now your assailant is grappling the weapon or hand.

>>687171

Yeah. I have got popeye tier forearms to be fair, probably my best trait physically, so I can never worry about losing it, thrusts are also very good. It's funny that you mention sledgehammers since I train with them specifically, do you know the sabre cuts? Like diagonal each side, horizontal etc. I just do them with a sledgehammer one handed so now when I use a mace or club one handed it is extremely easy. By any angle imagine holding the mace out straight in front, since it has 4 sides of equal weight and a round handle it can be swung left, right, up, and down readily. So it basically needs no alignment or change or position at all and it hits like a weapon far heavier than itself, on account of the quite pointy projections. Bear in mind though that hitting in 'any direction' applies more for a two handed use, one handed use requires a bit more motion to generate the power, so hits are best coming from above to the top of the head or against the temples, I wouldn't get fancy if I used it like that.

You are right though, since nowadays you need 'killing' weapons not 'fighting' weapons. 99.9% of people in modern times have no training with weapons so all the advantages in timing, counters, blocks etc. are less important. Anything does the job though, I tapped myself on the head with a bowling pin once, that would kill a man.

>>687173

The weapons of modern day street fight are weapons that don't look like weapons.

Is there a budget sharpener that is decent?

>>687355

How budget is budget? The Spyderco Sharpmaker is pretty cheap for the quality of edge you can get with it.

>>687355

Learn how to use a sharpening stone. I have a double-sided one with 600/1000 for 13€ and it's all I'll ever need, aside from a sharpening rod.

>>687372

Yeah it looks great but it costs like 75€ here :(

>>687394

Looks like that's the solution, thanks.

>>610732

When stabbing you want a sharp edge on your weapon so that it penetrates more easily and, more importantly, cuts any organs/arteries etc. as it goes past them, instead of pushing them out of the way.

>>685697

Their steel quality is actually very good, I've got one of their spears, stabbed it through metal, thrown it through inches of wood and all kinds without any trouble.

>>687168

Come on mate you're just being a contrarian fag now. 'I prefer an awkward piece of pipe over a handcrafted, beautiful, and well balanced weapon'. Fuck off.

Is there a kind of sabre(-like weapon) with a curved blade that has its tip inline with the hilt? In other words, it curves downward from the hilt, then comes back up. I vaguely remember something like this, but I can't find it.

>>686200

Suppose they both prevent accidental finger severing equally, would the simpler design not be better? Fewer moving parts also means a lower chance for failure.

>>687840

Right, that was my take as well. I could see the reasoning behind going for a compression lock, since although it's a little weaker that CBBL, it's easier to activate and is great for flipper knives. This new one doesn't seem to have a particular advantage over the much simpler CBBL.