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There's no discharge in the war!

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d26d42 No.586407 [View All]

A hub for people with a taste for knives.

Will answer questions and give insight on knives, since I've been collecting for a long time , using knives in the outdoors and practicing knife-related martial arts.

Will not bother with the retarded sub-types and mall ninjas and teens like those found on cuckchan.

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cd9c9e No.681059

Best full tang knife to start out with?

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c2e1b0 No.681105

>>680876

I guess it's the same with butterfly knives, they are good enough to stab people.

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6e73d2 No.681344

File: 92ed64636ae46dc⋯.jpg (6.52 KB,330x330,1:1,ae235.jpg)

>>586791

I suggest something more borin but functional.

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8e9d53 No.681390

What should I be aware of about old timer schrade knifes? I got a folding pen knife and sharpfinger one as a gift from christmas.

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87e50c No.682299

File: 721ae1724bb5869⋯.jpg (47.54 KB,640x480,4:3,54446653_2163337927312533_….jpg)

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87e50c No.682300

>>663596

Not retard proof, very easy to screw up. Lansky is a very primitive, crude, straightforard system. Should have bought the Spyderco sharpener, easier to use.

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157565 No.682487

>>661228

Which company out of Solingen is the best for full tang legal knives in Germany?

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0e8976 No.682902

>>677492

I haven't given mine the full run through, just light stuff and even cutting onions for cooking in the cabin. Haven't had to sharpen it yet, I suppose I need to get busy actually using it intead of babying it because its expensive.

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a819aa No.682904

where can i buy knifes from exotic materials? like, i would want one made out of bronze, or from smoothed stone, or from shark tooth

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6e4e59 No.683562

File: 9981b916b6d57bb⋯.jpg (162.35 KB,1440x1440,1:1,chaos bowie.jpg)

>>676620

I think im gonna get the Chaos Bowie from Cold Steel, it looks good.

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8ce2a2 No.683563

>>683562

>cold steel maymay knoife

Why? Just get a decent bowie somewhere else.

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8983df No.683566

>>683563

Why would I do that though?

This one looks fine. I should avoid it just because it's Cold Steel?

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ea6dab No.683567

>>683566

Because a Cold Steel knife will likely demand a much higher price than an equivalent competitor just because it's Cold Steel. People with good taste also find their tactical marketing extremely cringey, but if you have bad taste this might not apply to you. Becasue of these two facts, unless you're getting something that is offered only by Cold Steel and nobody else, such as the Tri-Ad lock, there's not much reason to buy anything from them.

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9fa9d0 No.683569

>>683567

What do you mean man? Cold steel are generally affordable products and if care about their marketing enough to drop and otherwise great company that makes you a cuck. Cold steel offers full size s35vn folders for like a hundred bucks, that's a way better deal than spyderco, Benchmade, or many other big brands.

>>683566

Tbh if I were you I'd get a different cold steel or condor, thsie trench knives are pretty fucking heavy.

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8983df No.683570

>>683569

Heavier than a regular tactical knife, but since I was tempted to add a sword to my belt, I might as well go for something that is easier to carry and go with a big knife instead.

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96c890 No.683770

>>586791

there was a utility knife (replacable blade) folder like this that i wanted to get but i forgot what it was.

any ideas? want a beater with a replaceable blade for opening boxes, mail, cutting paper, daily chore stuff i dont want to use my good knife on.

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c84419 No.683843

>>683770

Most tool companies have something like this and you can pick them up at like any hardware store.

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ea6dab No.683848

>>683569

Perhaps things aren't quite the same now as they were before, or there's a smaller price difference on some classes of products compared to others. When I was last shopping for a knife, Cold Steel's options were ~40 burgerbux more expensive than the other models I was looking at.

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96c890 No.684120

>>683843

yeah but… i want a good one

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a52c66 No.685304

>>683562

Do you guys know any other Bowie or big knife with a blade around 10 inches long and with a black coating? Ideally with a "tactical" plastic sheath.

All I found so far is that cheap Kershaw 10" knife but it's not a Bowie and it has a big belly so it's not great for stabbing and combat overall.

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ea6dab No.685305

>>685304

The Becker BK-9 sounds like what you want. It doesn't come with a Kydex sheath but there are a lot of options on the aftermarket.

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44dc06 No.685352

is there a knife i can reasonably get that has a 90deg point? i want a chisel-like tip, point for slicing thin materials accurately with a straightedge, blade for cutting rope and heavier sheeting. and some serration at the base for small branches or more stout materials

>>586439

a pair of scissors you dumb nigger. preferably safety scissors.

are you planning to do bic pen trachs or something?

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0c3652 No.685697

File: d453f21fe82c929⋯.mp4 (6.61 MB,640x480,4:3,cold steel demo.mp4)

All you need is a Cold Steel knife tbh.

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c17679 No.686009

>>685697

Imagine the daily barbecues at that place.

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ea6dab No.686200

File: badb32f6bc5ddf2⋯.png (1021.3 KB,1200x943,1200:943,ClipboardImage.png)

Thoughts on Spyderco's new snowflake locking system? I'm always glad to see departures from liner locks, but I'm not sure what advantage this holds over the captured ball bearing. The latter has fewer small parts and a beefier locking system.

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68e2b9 No.687145

File: 5a0105ff934a77b⋯.png (1.4 MB,1024x768,4:3,Bollock dagger 1400s repro….png)

Pic related for 'killing other people wearing thick clothing' purposes. Come winter and slashing is less useful due to the coats people wear. Not much utility value but has a clear advantage over most modern style knives, which are generally too short. Traditionally this knife was often held in an icepick grip when fighting heavily armoured opponents and also because it is quicker to draw that way, carried on the right side of the body if right handed, better for grappling, and provides stronger defence against swords and clubs etc. One of the tricks to using in an icepick grip is to flick your wrist back and shoot it forward, relaxing all but the index finger and thumb (like you are making an OKKK sign). This allows for quick jabs and removes the 'slowness' that the icepick grip is often criticised for.

Blade 12", total 16.5"

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60f4c5 No.687148

>>687145

>Pic related for 'killing other people wearing thick clothing' purposes.

Meh, I would just use a ball-peen hammer.

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68e2b9 No.687149

>>687148

I saw a video of a fella getting hit about a dozen times with a hammer and he was still standing. Nothing wrong with them inherently and they don't have an edge to maintain, but a dagger like that is surprisingly fast and has more stopping power in a sense: a hammer blow anywhere but the head likely won't incapacitate your attacker, but shove a foot of dagger anywhere near his centerline and he's had it, and will be down in seconds. A dagger like that is big enough to reach his heart if you stab him in the belly, or to get a double lung penetration from the side.

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60f4c5 No.687150

>>687149

Care to post that video?

I reckon a good hammer hit in the head, lung or heart can knock someone else. Then again, I'm loving blunt weapon lately.

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68e2b9 No.687151

File: e288b84d771be8a⋯.webm (2.18 MB,640x520,16:13,hammer nigger.webm)

>>687150

>heart

Based. A good right hand can work there as well, obviously not as often as a hammer would. Yeah, blunt weapons are very underrated, I'm just playing 'devil's advocate' a bit, though I do think it is easier to pierce thick padding than smash your way through it.

Yeah, this is the video, seems like I was massively exaggerating (I saw it ages ago and only watched it again now). The hammer works very well on second watch, 2 or 3 blows. From wherever I got it I do remember the comments insisting the man survived, but that would be easy to correct if you held the hammer yourself.

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60f4c5 No.687153

>>687151

That vid is pretty conclusive, all I can say.

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68e2b9 No.687154

File: 755a1f1b485c470⋯.webm (2.41 MB,360x640,9:16,Knife to a fistfight.webm)

>>687153

This one is good as well, for the other side of it. Gets the knife half way through the video, stabs him and the fella is down and out a few seconds and few yards later.

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01611c No.687157

>>687151

>that sound when it hits the back of the head

Now that's pure kino

>>687154

Benefit of a hammer over the knife is that a knife is going to be seen as a weapon very easily, both by courts and your opponent. A hammer is relatively easy to explain in many situation. Just put a toolbox in your car and say you often do handymen stuff for friends.

And, as seen in the >>687151 vid, a guy can obviously have a hammer and his opponent isn't even on alert. Try doing that with a knife. (knife guy had his concealed in a handkerchief, probably a good idea)

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374f13 No.687159

File: 0e45cceaf19f04d⋯.jpg (11.43 KB,181x480,181:480,img_eggsif_244261456873746….jpg)

>>687153

>>687149

>>687151

That hammer has a lot going against it. It's actually a mallet from the looks of it, and it has a very short handle. What this does, is it provides very little inertia, and has a very wide head to distribute impact with. He's basically just hitting a dude with what looks like a 2lb rock (that's more holdable).

If you want a great "impromptu" hammer for self defense, framing hammers are where it's at: reach, metal handle with a wedge design lowers wind resistance, makes overreaching still very damaging, harder for the assailant to grapple out of your hand, the lower handle is contoured and has great grip that works even with sweaty/bloodsoaked hands, the back side is superior to a claw hammer for impact angle, and the head is smaller which puts that force into a much smaller area - making any hit a disabling hit.

All that aside, that assailant was done after the first hit. The second hit ended the fight, and the third hit ensured the nigger stayed long after the guy left, and anything past that was because it was a nigger using it.

>>687154

That's a pretty big knife…I would say that's a dirge or even a dagger at that point, so yea, it's gonna fucking put a person down fast.

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60f4c5 No.687160

>>687159

Man, that hammer design is basically the military warhammer design in medieval era.

It's great then and great now. Put it on a shaft and you got an awesome polehammer.

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68e2b9 No.687162

File: d7a5499f27cab37⋯.jpg (28.15 KB,480x360,4:3,brass mace 9th-19thcEur.20….jpg)

>>687157

Right on both counts.

>>687159

>>687160

I've recently acquired a mace. A small bronze (or brass) head so it swings like a stick, but concentrates the force very well and can hit from all angles. Very handy but the tool explanation obviously won't work. I've got mine mounted on a shaft just over 1 inch diameter and around 2.5 foot long. If you exercise forearms it's fine to use one or two handed.

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68e2b9 No.687164

File: 2016d10993a72e4⋯.jpg (229.66 KB,640x480,4:3,Ball headed war club.jpg)

>>687160

Here's a nice club for the connoisseur.

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60f4c5 No.687168

File: f777c34fead8771⋯.jpg (59.82 KB,1556x968,389:242,pipe-reference.jpg)

>>687164

I prefer the modern version tbqh.

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d0d996 No.687171

>>687160

There are better hammer designs for the purpose of wrecking people, but they reach a point where trying to explain it as defending yourself with a tool becomes very questionable: a mason's hammer is probably one of the best tools for this task: has good weight, nice hammer design, with a chisel on the back end, with the same curve as a framing hammer. You can get them with a longer handle than most hammers as well, but typically framing hammers have the most weight potential for a true hammer setup. Unless you're a mason, or have an aleibi that you just got done helping your friend/family member redo their patio - good luck explaining why you have it.

Geological hammer: it's a small smashy head paired with a pick. Pick head has a great contour, and is focal enough to easily penetrate a skull/torso. Caveats: small handle, light weight, and no way in hell you're gonna convince anyone you just so happened to be carrying one at the scene.

I'd recommend buying some carpenter's pants: they have a holster on the thigh for a hammer tool. You can comfortably carry your hammer around in the open without too many questions, and it's readily accessible if you need it. Pair this with a blue collar job, and you have a pretty strong defense in the courts.

>>687162

I know you're probably just enjoying the fun of having a mace, but they do make sledgehammers, strelok. I've got a 6lb and 8lb sledge that I've put a lot of miles on. Granted, the setup is 2 handed, but you could easily get a 2-4lb head, and put it on a smaller handle. I don't quite get how a rounded handle is gonna give you any advantage over an optimized oval handle. I know you said "strike from any angle", but flicking your wrist to strike inwards or outwards with the head almost completely defeats the point of kinetic energy transfer a standard swing is going to give you. It might stun them, or confuse them a little, but you're not fighting someone who's gonna have a realistic counter to a club anyways so just stick to the tried and true hits. Even if you fuck up, you still will have them on the ropes, whereas a fuckup with a flick attack can mean disarming yourself from hyperextension, or being disarmed because you didn't deliver enough energy fast enough, and now your assailant is grappling the weapon or hand.

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68e2b9 No.687173

>>687171

Yeah. I have got popeye tier forearms to be fair, probably my best trait physically, so I can never worry about losing it, thrusts are also very good. It's funny that you mention sledgehammers since I train with them specifically, do you know the sabre cuts? Like diagonal each side, horizontal etc. I just do them with a sledgehammer one handed so now when I use a mace or club one handed it is extremely easy. By any angle imagine holding the mace out straight in front, since it has 4 sides of equal weight and a round handle it can be swung left, right, up, and down readily. So it basically needs no alignment or change or position at all and it hits like a weapon far heavier than itself, on account of the quite pointy projections. Bear in mind though that hitting in 'any direction' applies more for a two handed use, one handed use requires a bit more motion to generate the power, so hits are best coming from above to the top of the head or against the temples, I wouldn't get fancy if I used it like that.

You are right though, since nowadays you need 'killing' weapons not 'fighting' weapons. 99.9% of people in modern times have no training with weapons so all the advantages in timing, counters, blocks etc. are less important. Anything does the job though, I tapped myself on the head with a bowling pin once, that would kill a man.

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60f4c5 No.687174

>>687173

The weapons of modern day street fight are weapons that don't look like weapons.

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237121 No.687355

Is there a budget sharpener that is decent?

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ea6dab No.687372

>>687355

How budget is budget? The Spyderco Sharpmaker is pretty cheap for the quality of edge you can get with it.

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01611c No.687394

>>687355

Learn how to use a sharpening stone. I have a double-sided one with 600/1000 for 13€ and it's all I'll ever need, aside from a sharpening rod.

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ea3c5d No.687407

>>687372

Yeah it looks great but it costs like 75€ here :(

>>687394

Looks like that's the solution, thanks.

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ee8429 No.687823

>>610732

When stabbing you want a sharp edge on your weapon so that it penetrates more easily and, more importantly, cuts any organs/arteries etc. as it goes past them, instead of pushing them out of the way.

>>685697

Their steel quality is actually very good, I've got one of their spears, stabbed it through metal, thrown it through inches of wood and all kinds without any trouble.

>>687168

Come on mate you're just being a contrarian fag now. 'I prefer an awkward piece of pipe over a handcrafted, beautiful, and well balanced weapon'. Fuck off.

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9be9ac No.687825

Is there a kind of sabre(-like weapon) with a curved blade that has its tip inline with the hilt? In other words, it curves downward from the hilt, then comes back up. I vaguely remember something like this, but I can't find it.

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01aa56 No.687840

>>686200

Suppose they both prevent accidental finger severing equally, would the simpler design not be better? Fewer moving parts also means a lower chance for failure.

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ea6dab No.688028

>>687840

Right, that was my take as well. I could see the reasoning behind going for a compression lock, since although it's a little weaker that CBBL, it's easier to activate and is great for flipper knives. This new one doesn't seem to have a particular advantage over the much simpler CBBL.

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bd85d5 No.689601

File: 80d42f2d32664d0⋯.jpg (236.77 KB,889x720,889:720,post_15_0_88392500_1307864….jpg)

File: 6dcbd1c47ee0469⋯.jpg (133.14 KB,1188x792,3:2,post_97_1276270950_0606.jpg)

If you want something that actually cuts and holds an edge get a Phil Wilson custom in K294 or 10V. Best knife you'll ever own.

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