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^Д^) Lets try magick, folks?
Here are the essentials! Forgive me if I have doubleposted.
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No.41680
>>41673
I remember when this was a meme.
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No.41768
Today I closed my eyes while having a few moments of peace at a very crowded and loud place. And as I was trying to meditate I felt like I was able to feel a black bar which was part of the darkness between my eyes. To even say that it was a bar would be too much, it was more like the shade of a horizontal bar. However I was able to clearly feel it, and could move it into a vertikal position at will. In horizontal position it felt like it was forming a horizon just between my eyes and my mouth which stretched away to both sides. When I moved it into vertikal position it felt like something in my forehead moved, even though it wasn't physically moving. In vertikal position it aligned with my nosebone.
On top of that I was feeling like I had realized void, having these lines and moving them back and forth made me think about infinity and lines stretching into every direction, until they had formed a perfect sphere around something which started out as a cross. All my emotional troubles became meaningless and I was starting to appreciate the infinite possibilities of the void and my own mind.
Eventually reality caught back up with me and I had to keep going, but I wanted to further inspect this feeling at home. But when I finally arrived home I was unable to recreate it, I could merely imagine them which didn't feel the same way. This is pretty frustrating. I felt like I made a small breakthrough, but I guess all I did was make myself high for a bit.
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No.42119
I went to a monthly inroduction session at a buddhist center last week. I was curious about how things work there and if I might be able to learn anything useful in my pursuit of mental liberation. It all started out nice with the speaker explaining roughly that buddhism isn't about believing in gods and that karhma means that to every action there is a reaction and so on and so forth. Also they preached about self reflection and being useful to the world around you. It got really weird when we finally started to meditate. They made us imagine that some gold glowing person with a golden crown is shooting beams of light into us which was supposed to trigger certain feelings inside of us. It literally felt like someone was trying to intrude into my mind, and no matter how hard I tried to follow the instructions and no matter how hard I tried to stay openminded towards this, I just couldn't get into it. To me this was the opposite of self reflection. After that we were made to loudly chant "kamapachano" 108 times in unision, which was simply irritating. At the end of it people started to sing a poem in tibetian, with no translation whatsoever. It was supposed to be some poem of a protective black mantle. One of the speakers explained this whole process as "putting on the buddha mask until you are enlightened". I left that place with disappointment. Yesterday I read in a book about buddhism something very similar to these practices. Appearently what happened there was tantric meditation. You are supposed to put yourself into the shoes of certain meditation deitys, until you become just like them in mind, speech and behaviour. Also they are not really deitys, but rather symbols of great people who achieved enlightment in the past and who represent certain "enlightened qualities". It would have been nice if this could have been explained to me at the buddhist center, then the whole thing would have made more sense to me. But overall I'll stick with exploring sutra practices instead.
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No.42242
In a fit of autism, I attempted to describe the planes of existence according to my visions while deep in meditation. I didn't apply much logic into this, I just wrote down (and am now typing) the contents of my head, as absurd as it might be.
The Real World is the place where we live. It includes this universe and hypothetically many more universes if the multiverse theory is true. The laws of physics work here, which is unique to this plane.
The Dark World, as I refer to it, is where dead people go, where people dream and where there are monsters and stuff. Thinking hard enough there can actually change reality and it's impossible to truly die there (at least I can't). The Dark World is impossibly large, likely many times larger than the Real World. People who are alive are spontaneously in the Real World and in the Dark World at all times, although they are mostly in the Real World as long as they aren't sleeping/unconscious/etc, in which case the situation is reversed. Paranormal phenomena occur when the Dark World manages to bridge some sort of gap into the Real World. One specific landmark in the Dark World is my world, which is a comfy place where no one except me and my imaginary girlfriend are allowed into.
There's also a place called the Beyond World, are at least I think there is. Hypothetically its where gods are or something. Likely located on the outer edges of the Dark World. Probably not as interesting as the Dark World, but if I could go there I totally would.
There's also a place called the Stage. I do not know anything about the Stage, and it's extremely unlikely that it actually exists or isn't just a part of the Dark World. If it exists, it likely exists on a higher dimension far beyond everything else. If I made a 2D map of the planes of existence, it would be somewhere on the Z axis. I just feel as though it exists, even though the idea of it existing is pretty horrifying, because it means that all of this is fiction.
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No.42245
>>42242
Nice theories, but what exactly leads you to believe that these things are true and not just figments of your imagination?
I've heard so many occult sources talking about different planes of existence, such as the astral plane, but I'm having trouble taking that knowledge for granted until I manage to experience these planes firsthand.
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No.42246
>>42245
All of that wad was just a bunch of random ideas I had in my head. It's very possible that I'm just making it all up and none of it exists.
But theorizing is still very fun. If it wasn't I wouldn't have made that post.
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No.42252
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No.42253
I took the test again. Last time I took it was five months ago. ( >>39274 )
My results came out quite different this time. Everything went up except for the Crown, which is lower now.
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No.42255
>>42246
I see, that's perfectly fine
>>42253
We are doing this again? Fine, I redid my silly test again just now. >>39297
were my results from back then. It has gotten worse compared to back then, I think that might be because this time I spent more time thinking carefully about my answer and evaluating myself.I'm definetly not the same person I was 5 months ago. I'd say I made good progress.
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No.42256
Can I get a link to this? I just tried one, and it was the wrong site.
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No.42257
>>42256
I usually find it by just typing "chakra test" into google
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/chakratest
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No.42258
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No.42259
Everyone here has a developed Third Eye. Interesting.
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No.42260
>>42259
I'm sure it'll be less interesting when you figure out which criteria of the test correspond to it. I bet it's something like "I do not get very day-to-day strong urges to drop a watermelon from an eight-storey building".
As for the extreme changes in my own results, I was simply more inclined to not go with all of the neutral responses this time.
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No.42261
>>42260
Yeah that test is pretty dumb tbh, almost on the same level as these shitty personality tests you see online. Well, at least this one does try to give some advice based on the chakra teachings, but the validity of these teachings is also iffy at best. Occultism is such a handful, all these teachings sound nice and all if you understand them on an intelectual level but in order to truly understand them you have to experience the stuff. No wonder everyone thinks its a fraud.
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No.42278
I'm fascinated by esoterics, and the concept of magick. I tend to feel that "magick" is ultimately just another name for mind control. If the collective mind can define reality, manipulating that reality is manipulating the minds of the masses, and that manipulation snowballs (synchronicity and such).
Definitely not super read in this shit but I've been down the rabbit hole and fumbled around in the darkness for a bit. Scary experience.
Ever since I started looking into this around 2016 I noticed that my car thermometer is almost always a double digit, every single day. 77, 66, 88 etc. depending on the weather. Every single day for 2 years now. Not sure if there's any significance to that.
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No.42287
>>42278
>I tend to feel that "magick" is ultimately just another name for mind control
That seems to be the case on surface level, but then there are also sometimes people talking about different planes of existence which you can go up to or down to, and it really makes me wonder just how high I have to be until I can commute with spirits
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No.42296
>>42287
Don’t mess with the Blue Ones man, that’s how you end up in the news.
On a side note, anybody here got plans for October 22nd?
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No.42297
>>42296
What's happening on October 22nd?
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No.42319
All of those anthropologists and new age simply nutjobs don't get it. The Akashic Records were never meant to be readable memory, I seriously don't care whether you think you're an ESPer or you can "read the waves" or whatever, you're missing the point. Just the simple thought that all things are preserved and indexed in perfect form has always brought relief to people, even if it can never be accessed by anything. It's simply a philosophical analogy for the Universe itself. The Universe is complete and whole, the data it represents might be finite, sure, but you can trust it to have never misrepresented any moment of its past.
To make the idea simpler, consider somebody in a superreality mounting the world itself as some kind of memory storage device in his computer. The device contains a perfect reproduction of all of space and time. As long as the computer and its software is capable enough to browse all of the data and save the interesting bits somewhere else (though such arbitrary distinction would normally be frowned upon by archivalists), then you can say that data was saved from destruction.
Now consider this; to us, it makes absolutely no difference as to whether any such "superreality" never exists, because it never affects us in any way. Therefore, whether things are "lost" or not don't matter IN THE LONG RUN.
Well obviously, there's two gaping holes in my argument:
1. An inaccessible archive should matter just as little to us as an inaccessible computer user.
2. Time as a dimension doesn't actually exist at all─ we're probably not some ISO image but volatile RAM. Once the Big Freeze comes and the final black holes cool down, all that'll be left is zeroes (if that). I'll admit this argument is pretty dubious, since there's really no way to prove things one way or another.
Still, I think that's the reasoning behind the concept's creation. The first argument is really only a personal one, and could be disagreed with by some who believe a Sky NEET might really exist out there somewhere, and they feel unconditional love for it, even though that love will never be reciprocated.
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No.42320
Gnostic thought systems were invented because all people simply hate loss. The loss of valuable data.
Entropy is a loss of complexity in a system. The death of a person, for example, is the gross loss of data related to that personality in the arbitrary and highly partial, but still fair and well-defined system of a person's experience, both their known world and any future potential for its progression. Despite impressions, this data isn't actually awfully complex. You see, the antithesis to entropy is any system which retains a "meaningful" and paradoxically somewhat similar form throughout the passing of time.
It's not necessarily complexity that we should strive to maintain. Without internal "logic" and a tocuh of some sentimentality, data simply won't be valuable to most people.
Though as I've alluded, the preservation of absolutely all existence is the ideal. WE might find books, words, and people pretty valuable, but honestly, I wouldn't blame an alien for finding our weather and the movements of the clouds more interesting on the whole.
That's why all of this stuff about not actually being dead after you die, or the Universe having a "spectate" mode has always been around in peoples' minds. People hate loss, would you imagine that?
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No.42325
>>42296
The Carrington Event?
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No.42419
>>42325
Project Monarch, remember remember the 5th of November blah blah blah.
Coordinated effort to fuck shit up with chaos-driving memetics, especially fucky around major US elections.
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No.42476
Something tells me this probably isn't good, but I feel it's accurate.
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No.42496
Found what looks to be an old "in-construction" website on my browser. It's just this stupid fucking bullshit I don't even really agree with, but here's one excerpt from this page called "Chaos".
"There is no higher force to distinguish between mass and gap.<br>
We only believe the world to be fine-tuned to our way of life because we are the only "life" around.[...]"
Seems like a half-baked attempt at some kind of cosmological theory of everything, making reference to the Anthropic Principle and, strangely enough, barriers.
The date on it as marked as "2017/04/14" which while concerningly recent, is way before the gapfag came here. My one relief is that I'm pretty sure I knew how fucking well how stupid what I was typing was, and I might've even been looking foward to the pain of reading through it later. I do a lot of things like that.
In case it needed to be said again, I'm not the guy who goes on here about Yukari.
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No.42506
>>42476
Is this your first time taking this test?
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No.42511
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No.42516
"The Kybalion" and "The Arcane Teaching" are watered down versions of the texts taken from Corpus Hermeticum and Emerald Tablet of Thoth. You're better off reading those instead of that New Thought shit.
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No.42517
>>42516
Thanks for that piece of advice. Do you have any links to these 2 things in PDF which you deem to be reliable sources?
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No.42520
>>42517
If you're looking for religious/occult texts, sacred-texts.org is a good source. (There's also libgen which is all around great to get any book from)
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No.42521
>>42517
>>42520
gnosis.org also has the Corpus Hermeticum along with a number of gnostic texts. There is also this collection of gnostic primary sources.
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No.42524
>>42520
>>42521
Thank you. Even though I was satisfied with the watered down versions of this knowledge, I will check these out.
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No.42720
How do I teach the people around me the importance of mental training? I know so many people who just walk through their life in miserable states of mind such as depression, but whenever I'm trying to help them, and make them understand that the key to succes lies within their own mind, they just ignore me. Should I just drop these people and take care of myself?
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No.42721
>>42720
Talking isn't good enough. You have to assume the roll of a leader and set a good example, people will follow you. I personally do not care much for helping others, but you making your post is proof that you truly want to help them. So do it.
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No.44074
>Atkinson and Bardon
Do not listen to these two, they speak airy fairy bullshit.
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No.44080
>>44074
Who's a credible source for these kind of informations then? Can there even be such a thing? After all these things can only be proven internally.
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No.44082
>>44080
Most of occultist books are disinfo meant to lead you astray turning you into a crazy deludant, the two also shot out multiple books under multiple pen names, someone went through the trash so you don't have to.
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No.44085
>>44082
Wouldn't the best be to go through all of it myself and decide on my own whats trash or not? That someone might also be trying to lead me astray.
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No.44087
>>44085
Yes but it is a waste of time, you can waste your time doing a lot of things except reading something that's supposed to give you knowledge. However it seems we all have time to read a book, just as precaution take into consideration what it's saying and listen to yourself.
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No.44103
Why are we so desperate to chase an invisible world? Are we that disappointed about the limitations of the world we can currently perceive? Even if we find that invisible world and meet the fantastic creatures we've always dreamt about, what will we do then? That newfound invisible world will just be a new layer of our perception. We will feel special for being different from most people, but in the end this will not bring us the salvation we hoped for.
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No.44107
>>44103
Words spoken by a man who clearly has no drive to fuq his favorite 2hu.
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No.44109
>>44107
I indeed have no drive of that kind. I don't see the point. To me my favourite touhou symbolizes a love which goes beyond romantic feelings. I'd hate to feel some sort of sexual lust for her, in my eyes that would only be degrading towards her.
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No.44195
>>44103
Magic is the most realistic way to get rich.
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No.44206
Real-life cursed grimoire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie#Death
Because of their levels of radioactive contamination, her papers from the 1890s are considered too dangerous to handle. Even her cookbook is highly radioactive. Her papers are kept in lead-lined boxes, and those who wish to consult them must wear protective clothing.
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No.44251
I'm going to try to befriend my shadow.
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No.44463
>>44251
Did that work out?
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No.44468
>>44463
It's an ongoing process. It's hard to communicate with "something" that's inheretly unconsciouss. When words pop into my mind I'm never sure if it's actually my shadow talking to me or me imagining that it does. But it all starts with love.
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No.44474
>>44468
What kind of personality do you associate with it? The common psychoanalytic concept of the "shadow", or something more straightforward?
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No.44481
>>44474
I guess a mix of both. Something that's there which I can't grasp, but which still influences all my mental aspects. And the the same time it's influenced by impulses.
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No.44610
It has been quite a while since I first read this thread. I can safely say that it changed my life. What began as a morbid curiosity for some chuuni-tier nonsense actually lead me to the key I have been looking for all my life. I'm not the same person I used to be anymore, I have made peace with alot of the things I hated about myself and I'm ready to go on a path which will lead me even further.
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