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54c9ed No.2813 [Last50 Posts]

If you suddenly had all the skills and personal development needed to function normally, would you reintegrate into society?

Is society worth living in?

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594e97 No.2815

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>>2813

>If you suddenly had all the skills and personal development needed to function normally, would you reintegrate into society?

That's a very good question OP and i've given that some thought overtime and i still would have to say no because being apart of society it would still slowly kill me a lot more than being hikki would to be honest sure i have my moments where i get depressed and feel like a total failure for not participating in society but for the most part i'm not unhappy with my situation or my life as a hikikomori

>Is society worth living in?.

No this world was never meant to be for us we clearly were strangers to it since the very beginning and besides even if someone has all the skills and personal development needed to function normally they could still become a hikikomori if something traumatic happened in their life.

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c11c80 No.2818

>>2813

>>2815

I'm an INTJ type personality. I've always been purple. I was born into the wrong family. When I was younger I had a lot of contempt for the humans. But now I'm a ninja zoo keeper, when I see trouble I'm gone. If I'm not there you can't fight with me. Over the years I've perfected the art of invisibility, it's a mental martial art.

Take care

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9bb625 No.2819

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>>2813

I wouldn't even if given the choice, it isn't worth it. People in modern society have lost there compassion and sense of community for the sake of cut throat competition and material goods. The world has never been more connected, yet everyone is so distant which is something I noticed before I was even a hikki; everyone is depressed and insecure as fuck but will never admit it and just dump there suppressed hate onto boogeymen and people who happen to be different.

That and western society is pretty much on the verge of collapse for a number of other reasons.

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11a96a No.2820

Yes I think so. I am not happy with the way I'm living life. I'm a younger hikki(or was I guess) so I haven't been burned yet trying to reintegrate like others on here have been. I started going to school again 4 months ago but I don't really have any friends outside of school friends and online friends and I don't think they really care about me much. I go to school, come home, waste time on video games or this website, I have nothing I look forward to doing. This lifestyle brings me very little joy but honestly it's the only thing I know. I have trouble imagining how other people spend their time, I don't know what normalfags do when they go out with friends. I started considering suicide again, biggest thing keeping me here is the hurt it would bring on family members if I did it, and I don't want to talk about these things with my parents because I don't want to worry them, and none of my friends would care enough to talk about this with me and if they did they'd probably think I wanted attention, I feel very alone in this.

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594e97 No.2821

>>2820

>Yes I think so. I am not happy with the way I'm living life. I'm a younger hikki(or was I guess)

How old are you anon??.

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11a96a No.2822

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594e97 No.2824

>>2822

>20

Oh so i'm a few years older than you also as far as friends go when you're a hikki overtime you will lose a lot of your irl friends and you probably only keep one or two or none at all this has happened to me.

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11a96a No.2825

>>2824

>you will lose a lot of your irl friends

yes that is true, I have no friends left from when I was in highschool, I still talk with them online but I haven't seen them in a year now. I wish I was more like a lot of you guys on here where you don't mind being alone and all, I want friends but am too fucked up and socially retarded to have any real ones

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70b530 No.2828

>>2813

I doubt it.

It'd make being a hikki easier since I'd be less panic-stricken, I'd probably be more healthy due to less depression, but I would probably still try to keep away from society.

I became a hikki because I dislike people and dislike modern society even more. If I was living even a hundred years ago, I'd voluntarily try to get back into society.

>>2825

Don't worry, in my experience wanting to be alone can be learned. It's just a matter of experience.

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11a96a No.2831

>>2828

>If I was living even a hundred years ago, I'd voluntarily try to get back into society.

yes, I would be much more motivated if that was the case as well, but this phenomenon would not exist 100 years ago, not on this large a scale anyway

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25d306 No.2848

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I really don't think so

I have created a facebook account one week ago in order to talk with old online friend I've found them but clearly everyone them having a life right now not only that but even the worst person of 'em who was one step closer to be the next version of me have fixed his life,However he claims that he doesn't happy with what he reached for whatsoever, and he's only faking it, I told two of them that I want to commit suicide and I pretty much regret it now because either of them judged me and made fun of my words I don't know why maybe I was indeed silly to say them maybe they're so normal to the point that they don't able to understand my suffering whatever was in their mind's I don't care anymore I've deleted the account now and likely will never open it again, I realized that I'm socially retarded even online and way too far from being able to interact with human beings again,However I've kept only one person on discord she's the only one in my life now, I don't know why exactly I'm doing this but this girl I've been in love with her since almost 3 years ago and I'm still do, she's interact with other's I know and she's so normal I mean she's average normal girl yet I still want her even though I'm aware that it's way too far for me to even master up the courage to send her a new picture of me yet I want to keep talking with her, I don't care about anything whether she's cheating despite telling me that she still loves me I don't care really I feel as though I'm about to die I may commit suicide very soon so why bother caring about meaningless things, almost all this humanity with all the things they desire is considering to be pointless for me, I don't feel anymore except one thing my love towards her that's why I keep her and keep wearing necklace with her pic print on it either due to the fact that If I lost this feeling I will be completely emotionless being who don't know why he's exist no more

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594e97 No.2849

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>>2848

>However I've kept only one person on discord she's the only one in my life now, I don't know why exactly I'm doing this but this girl I've been in love with her since almost 3 years ago and I'm still do, she's interact with other's I know and she's so normal I mean she's average normal girl yet I still want her even though I'm aware that it's way too far for me to even master up the courage to send her a new picture of me yet I want to keep talking with her, I don't care about anything whether she's cheating despite telling me that she still loves me I don't care really I feel as though I'm about to die I may commit suicide very soon so why bother caring about meaningless things

Anon she's probably just using you like how all roasties do and online dating usually never works out for any hikkis and me personally i have experience with this back in 2015 i met this girl over Facebook in an Elliot Rodger group that i was apart of back then we talked through Facebook chat for awhile and she added me and we became friends we were friends for about a year then in mid 2016 we started online dating the relationship only lasted 2 weeks and after that we never talked to each other again the bitch was fucking crazy ill. just say that and there is a lot more to this story but that would be too long of a post but my point is online dating never works out for any hikkis and doesn't usually end well ether it's best to avoid it anon.

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d1886f No.2850

No way, society stinks

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25d306 No.2851

>>2849

but I'm afraid to ignore her because I will lose every meaning in this world, besides she told me that we may might after 4 months or so I wonder whether to go and meet her ? is it likely that I will turn out to be the thing that I'm afraid of ?

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594e97 No.2852

>>2850

>No way, society stinks

This

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594e97 No.2854

>>2851

>but I'm afraid to ignore her because I will lose every meaning in this world

Well even if you lose her you still have us on here anon.

>So I wonder whether to go and meet her ? is it likely that I will turn out to be the thing that I'm afraid of??.

Most likely is a roastie just using or hell probably even a catfisher these kind of people prey on the weak and desperate anon before even meeting your alleged real life Misaki you should build up the courage and talk to her over Skype first but still could turn out bad i don't know it is all completely up to you on what you want to do anon.

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25d306 No.2855

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>>2854

I'm confused anon but even If I stopped talk to her I'm more likely to kill myself, because I've tried everything now, I've getting bored of 'em either and I don't know why I'm alive anymore so probably you know what I mean

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918a66 No.2858

>>2848

>>2855

It's kind of odd how similar your situation is to mine. A couple weeks ago I also opened a facebook account to look up people I used to hang out with in my high school days out of curiosity, but I had no intention of talking to them again. It's weird seeing all these people I know suddenly getting married and having kids when it feels like I'm still stuck in time and at the same place I was mentally before I became a hiki. I've also been in online relationships mostly out of desperation wanting to be loved, but I guarantee you that it's all a waste of time. Currently the only person I talk to is also a girl but I have no romantic feelings for her, and I believe the same goes for her. I still love her to death though, she's the only person I can truly call a friend and she's been more of a little sister to me than my real one has been. We have similar interests and she's far from a normie due to her messed up childhood/past. She also knows more or less everything about me, including being a hiki and everything that comes with the territory.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that having a single good friend you can talk to online may be worth more than being in a relationship with someone. Firstly because you can't really do relationship-y things and there's no physical contact whatsoever anyways. Secondly because you don't really know what may go on behind your back and it makes cheating infinitely easier (and probably makes you paranoid because of that) Thirdly there are less expectations of maintaining a friendship than there are in a romantic relationship. And lastly if you're hetero or a fag you're not limited to one sex.

I may be missing some points but I'm starting to lose focus.

With all that said, /hikki/ is great because we're all people in similar situations and there will always be someone you can talk to without being judged. I'm sure that even when the veil of anonymity is dropped people here could potentially find good and lasting friendships, provided they'd be willing to share contact info in the first place.

In hindsight after writing all of this I'm not really sure what I was trying to say or if there even was a point I was trying to make, but I wish you and anyone else reading the best of luck. Hang in there lads.

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25d306 No.2860

>>2858

I'm pretty sure that It was a harsh experience for you hikki, I'm still stuck at the same place I was in years ago while almost all of them is living a completely different life now

>Currently the only person I talk to is also a girl but I have no romantic feelings for her, and I believe the same goes for her. I still love her to death though,

you've to spend as much time as you can with her anon so once she deciding to leave or somehow grow old then leave for her life you a will not regret that you waste time not talking with her, and try as hard as you can to win a close place in her heart cause really being totally alone is so hard for a human being to experience, I'm crying per hour now and there's no such a thing as reconsider my life I'm bored I feel as though I've experienced everything in this life and don't want it anymore

>if you're hetero or a fag you're not limited to one sex.

unfortunately I'm not gay

btw thanks dear brother for your support and I hope we might get it better or even feel again

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11a96a No.2861

you guys have contact with girls? how's that like?

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918a66 No.2862

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>>2860

>I hope we might get it better or even feel again

If not in this life, maybe in the next.

>>2861

The same as talking to a guy in my case. If you're talking about irl then your guess is as good as mine. 2D is superior anyways

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840ffa No.2865

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c11c80 No.2869

>>2858

Very well said, this is good advice. Relationships have expectations, the closer you get to a female; the more ownership becomes a problem. Unless you like a collar around your neck. A female will turn you into a pet and keep you as long as you obey. Once the collar and leash are in place, you get the honey-do-list. They will keep you if you obey, only the ones that they can fully hypnotize will continue to be used. Demand your freedom and they will kick you to the curb, stealing anything you have of value before you are replaced by another hypnotized idiot. Some things in life have to be experienced to be understood because our (dream) desires are so powerful; I think it comes from the fairytales we are fed from birth. I left out a lot of the details but you get the idea.

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594e97 No.2876

>>2862

>2D is superior anyways

This

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c05887 No.2878

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>>2876

I made a few of these pics related a while back. Wanted to put them on shirts but no money right now. I already have a shirt of one, posted it in the room thread a while back.

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c05887 No.2879

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c05887 No.2880

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c05887 No.2882

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594e97 No.2883

>>2878

>>2879

>>2880

These are really cool anon you should sell them online.

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c05887 No.2884

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>>2882

>>2880

>>2879

>>2878

>>2876

And this is the one I based them all on. Do apologize for the spam, but I think it's fitting enough.

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c05887 No.2885

>>2883

I technically can't since it's copyrighted characters and I only edited the signs. Maybe one day I'll make my own.

anons here should try to make references to hikikomorism in OC they make. I know I am, in part, even if it's not the focus.

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594e97 No.2887

>>2885

>anons here should try to make references to hikikomorism in OC they make. I know I am, in part, even if it's not the focus.

Amazon has hikikomori T. shirts thier trying capitalize off of our miserable lifestyle.

https://www.amazon.com/Hikikomori-Solo-Society-Anime-Tshirt/dp/B078BN92DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1514411273&sr=8-2&keywords=hikikomori

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c05887 No.2888

>>2887

>jews and normies profiting off of the suffering of others

What do you think the entire (((pharmaceutical))) and (((mental health))) industries are based on? It's fucking miserable to think about, but certainly nothing new.

I didn't necessarily say "profit", though, I'm not making a cent off of what I do, I just like telling stories and a character in mine happens to be a shut in. Maybe not a full hikikomori but certainly close to it.

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594e97 No.2893

>>2888

>What do you think the entire (((pharmaceutical))) and (((mental health))) industries are based on? It's fucking miserable to think about, but certainly nothing new.

True

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594e97 No.2897

File: 0632739981c9588⋯.jpg (136.83 KB,1032x774,4:3,I like you friends _4362b0….jpg)

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e96c96 No.3010

>>2888

You're not alone in this. I can't imagine happy stories anymore, and 2 of the last stories I imagined have a shut in them, both protagonists, with a bad end for both. But I know it won't work, people want bittersweet or happy ends.

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7b380a No.3017

No. My poor health has completely alienated me from society. I don't desire to be part of what that means any more.

It's sick and rotten. It hates it's self more than any shut in every could. I don't want to walk the streets of random brown people wondering which ones going to try and stab me.

It sucks that in any sane country I would have a place in a support home where I could help run the place when my health was good and have the support I needed when it wasn't. Instead I'm stuck just taking pain killers and watching everything rot.

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c05887 No.3018

>>3010

That only matters if you're doing it as a job or trying to make profit. What I do, I do for free as a hobby, so what "people" want doesn't truly matter.

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c873ae No.3019

>>3018

Then why bother writing it down? I could just keep them in my head, where I can clearly picture them instead of fumbling the descriptions when trying to get them on paper.

Sure, I always dreamed of drawing, or just tell stories, but fuck that "it's only a hobby, go get a real job".

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c05887 No.3020

>>3019

I never said I didn't share it. No, I just don't appeal to the mainstream because the mainstream is a bunch of idiots who think that PUBG is a quality video game.

My hope is that, if I put something out, it will find it's own niche audience.

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c873ae No.3021

>>3020

I don't have anyone to share with, I burned all bridges and even those I tried to share my stories with always had excuses "Yeah, sorry, didn't have time but I promise I'll read it.

I didn't even want a critic about my story in itself, just some advices on "did you get that part right or should I change those sentences?"

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acdfe8 No.3024

>>3017

>It hates it's self more than any shut in every could. I don't want to walk the streets of random brown people wondering which ones going to try and stab me.

I often share your concerns, anon. Though I have noticed that more and more normalfags are beginning to take notice of some of the bigger issues and talking about them. The truth is beginning to spread. I can only hope that in time society becomes fully aware of exactly (((who))) is to blame, and begins to take action to reclaim their own freedoms.

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7b380a No.3025

>>3024

Short of a complete collapse or a 9/11 style event nothings going to change. Just look at the Christmas market pictures or the paris killing. The normalfags don't care as long as the latest reality TV series is uneffected.

>>3021

find a writing community. Don't ask single people to do shit because they won't.

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06ce0b No.3031

no. people with friends are assholes.

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594e97 No.3033

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>>3031

>no. people with friends are assholes.

I think you mean people who have social lives are assholes which is a more accurate statement tbh.

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acdfe8 No.3047

>>3025

>The normalfags don't care as long as the latest reality TV series is uneffected.

You may be right, but I try to remain optimistic, otherwise my despair would become too great and I would be that much closer to a needless suicide.

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e7b1c6 No.3249

>If you suddenly had all the skills and personal development needed to function normally, would you reintegrate into society?

Not exactly, as chuuni as it sounds I aim for something bigger in life, both personal and external as in leaving my mark. "reintegrate into society" only to follow the rat-race is worse than being a hikki imho. Reintegrating into society would be a fine first step but not the end goal.

>Is society worth living in?

Not as it is, but it's worth living in it to try to improve it.

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1d581f No.3313

I don't simply want to withdraw from society; I want leave it completely and create a homestead on my own piece of land. All of my other problems will take care of themselves overtime, but I have to quit drinking myself into a coma every single day first. I doubt that I'll make it though. I've already ended going from moderate Alcoholism to severe Alcoholism. Some nights I stop breathing for a long time 1-3 minutes until my body shakes me awake and I can manually breathe on my own again.

I can't go to rehab because it would be a complete waste and I would end up getting into physical altercations with the other people. Deep down I know that I am just ready to die and so I am simply waiting for that one time…where my body doesn't shake me awake and brain death occurs via respiratory failure.

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92c9a4 No.3822

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>>3313

>I can't go to rehab because it would be a complete waste and I would end up getting into physical altercations with the other people. Deep down I know that I am just ready to die and so I am simply waiting for that one time…

I know that feel anon i've tried countless times to fix my situation and it never works out and at this point i have just completely given up i really don't care anymore.

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db6206 No.3848

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probably I don't wanna join society again because I've always been disappointed on humanity and after the years of isolation I've despised humanity even more

well what do you think is worth it in normal life or outside world in general ? what are they doing except for having sex and drinking beers they're drowned in a deep-less abyss in which they can't the light the light for a true happiness away from all this world thus they're dolls emotionless dolls just doing the basic things as they've grew up to worship their ""norms'' and if you are living otherwise they will behave like a fucking apes whenever they see you, rejecting you, avoiding you because you're neither a slave for their norms nor you want to be one

after get this realization are you still find any thing that is good enough to desire in this world whatsoever? I don't think so

maybe there was something that got our attention before but after years of realizing the truth of this shallow world there isn't anymore

Atheism,nihilism,theism,liberalism,left,right,Christians,muslims etc

neither of them are carrying any meaning

neither of them are capable of making at least me believe in it's bullshit

almost all of these ideologies written by weak shallow human beings for another weak shallow human beings among the different centuries

therefore ""normallife"" is incapable of making me want to live in it for anything whatsoever

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92c9a4 No.3851

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>>3848

I completely agree with you anon we basically are the weakest of the weak and are not compatible with society nor its social norms and why the hell should i even bother trying to live a normal life anyway when there is a mob waiting to ridicule me somewhere outside my door??. Also this lifestyle is just a lot more safe and comfy tbh.

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316dc1 No.3858

>>3848

I agree, it's chaos nobody knows what to do and nobody knows what to say anymore. The more they try to fix it the worse it gets. The people, in charge, our so called leaders get dumber every year. I used to wonder why they keep trying to fix a broken system. And the answer is: they can't stop it. And the ones with money have too much invested to ever stop it. All you can do is learn to walk between the raindrops the best you can. Live your own meaning. I just smile at everyone, but never tell them anything. I mean what else can you do with crazy people. We can't wake them up so all we can do is laugh. And this has been the problem forever, look at history.

take care

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92c9a4 No.3879

>>3858

>it's chaos nobody knows what to do and nobody knows what to say anymore. The more they try to fix it the worse it gets.

That's what happens when the world becomes divided over stupid shit.

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316dc1 No.3885

>>3879

>That's what happens when the world becomes divided over stupid shit.

What if all of it is stupid shit based on a faulty broken system, that pits everyone against one another, so you are out for your own gain. The result is a world with no trust, everyone has an ulterior motive, and the worst behaviors become normal. We go in a circle for a living, and we live and work in a lunatic asylum where there is no meaning. The prevailing belief systems are gone because everyone knows they were bullshit propagated by a degenerate and corrupt system of lunatics that were in charge of the broken system. But we haven't learned everything needed yet to change anything. In the next 20 years as the population approaches 9 billion, this will become clear. The carrying capacity of the planet to support the population of meat eaters now has been exceeded, 2 more billion will be the tipping point according to research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkPBam3qO34

Prof Mark Post explains world's first lab-grown burger process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHBasU5eCk

take care

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a3d164 No.3887

>>3879

dont you like diversity?

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6b5f4d No.3891

>If you suddenly had all the skills and personal development needed to function normally, would you reintegrate into society?

Yes

>Is society worth living in?

Hell no.

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489c30 No.3892

>>3887

The problem is people get lulled on the promise of fixing the problems the same elite promises to fix created in first place. This "us vs them" mentality is what will lead everyone to die in one way or another for their (((leaders))). Guess who wins in the end? All wars are banker wars they say. It's not niggers who are the problem, it's who put the niggers there and you can try getting rid of the niggers as much as you can but as long as "the jews" in a broad sense (because it's not about literal jews but powerful people who serve their own interests) remain in place nothing will change in the long run, and this exacerbated tribalism is only fueling the fire.

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316dc1 No.3893

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>>3892

And we see that there is no possibility of making the drastic changes needed. Obama thought that he could change things, Trump thought that he could bully his way through; and was introduced to the legal system. Bush and Cheney knew this from the beginning and just made money. You can see who is directly connected to the big money. Has anything changed…no. The government doesn't own, and is not in charge of this country. So even the highest political official is just as powerless as us.

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a3d164 No.3923

>>3892

this is why we need to end the FED

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a85610 No.3950

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>2018

>being part of society

It's like you want unnecessary oodles of pain.

Try having (being "lucky" enough to get) a job at a gas station for any amount of time. You'll see what I mean.

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7a43f4 No.3955

>>3950

I have held two jobs in my life, both dealing heavily with customer service. There were some nice people, but the combination of shitty people, shitty work, and little pay, was more than enough to make me hate society more than I already did.

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92c9a4 No.4019

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>>3955

>I have held two jobs in my life, both dealing heavily with customer service. There were some nice people, but the combination of shitty people, shitty work, and little pay, was more than enough to make me hate society more than I already did.

I know how you feel bud the cycle of going from point A. to point B. from point B. and back to point A. everyday until you ether retire or die honestly really gets tiring after awhile it slowly kills you to the point where you could eventually have a mental breakdown and that is why we have withdrawn from society it's because most of us hikkis are simply just not compatible with social and societal norms tbh.

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58adf9 No.4042

>>2813

If I were given a face like Brad Pitt, a body like The Rock, and billion dollars in my bank account then yes, I would rejoin society and live my life to the fullest despite having poor social skills. The main reason I'm a hikki is that I lack self confident and ashamed of my loser self. I rather live a recluse life than showing the world my pathetic being.

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92c9a4 No.4044

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>>4042

>I rather live a recluse life than showing the world my pathetic being.

I know that feel bro and it's like even if i try to get back on my feet i will still be treated like shit and i know that because that's happened to me before and that's why at this point i basically have just given up completely.

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3c798e No.7680

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>>4044

>I know that feel bro and it's like even if i try to get back on my feet i will still be treated like shit and i know that because that's happened to me before and that's why at this point i basically have just given up completely.

All there is, is life and nobody owns it. So all we can actually do it to live out our time the best that we can. :^)

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ad0646 No.7726

>>2813

no and no, what i see every day is completely lacking anything resembling a legitimate 'society'…

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