/hikki/ - Hikikomori

I wake up at 8-9am and go to bed before midnight. I cannot lose my mind into video games, movies and shows, or porn anymore. I can't tell if it's super depression or what but I even though I don't spend energy on these things anymore I feel so weak all day. I have a bit of energy in the morning and then by afternoon it is gone. By the afternoon I can only look at reddit and try to keep the self hatred thoughts at bay. In the evening I am too tired to do anything. In the morning I might try to get a bit of reading done and then the rest of my day is a lost cause.

>>225

>>wake up at 8-10 AM

Why??.

>>228

Because despite the fact that my life is going nowhere, I still often tell myself that I will get a job soon. So if that ever does happen, I will already be adapted to a normal wage-slave schedule. I'm probably just kidding myself though.

>>227

>>229

I think that's all of us to some extent. There's no real strict schedule when everything you do is fundamentally inconsequential, but I think the thread is intended to be about what you normally find yourself doing day-to-day.

By the way, since we seem to spend much of our time daydreaming, what do you guys daydream about?

>>233

>i tend to just sleep all day i hate the day time i am more of a night person

So am I, which is why I can never get to sleep before midnight. I have to force myself to get off the computer and go to bed.

>I day dream about someday having a life and family of my own and becoming successful

I daydream about that too, though not always. It's funny, people always say that visualizing a thing you want can help you to achieve a goal, yet we are no closer than when we started. Bunch of filthy liars.

>>231

For me its sometimes just being part of random stories I've thought up and sometimes its similar to >>233 with daydreaming about not being a massive failure or actually talking to people. Much prefer the former though.

This stuff digs deep for me too.

>>238

>They think they do, but it is just a ego-driven illusion they tell themselves

Sounds very much like my parents, anon. They both escaped from work into TV. When I was very young I used to cry out of boredom. They would laugh at me for crying over nothing then turn their heads back to the TV.

Every day they would come home from work and complain about their work problems. They told me to shut up and listen so I did. Sometimes they would become so upset that they turn their anger on me for being a useless kid. Then after dinner it is the nightly TV ritual until bed time. I kept quiet and did what they told then cried in bed at night.

Sometimes my mom would bring work home to do in order to make a bit more money. It was a sort of factory work. I had to finish my homework right after school so I could spend the rest of the night helping her do as much as possible for more money. It was stressful because there was a quota to meet. We didn't live in some third world hole. It was middle class in a first world country. All the other kids were having soccer practice, learning karate, or typical middle class stuff. I was basically doing factory work.

I wanted to be good so I cleaned the house for my mom. I helped her cook and do the dishes. I helped my dad with yard work since that was the only other thing he did outside of work. But their ritual remained the same. Work, dinner, TV. Behind all this they also expected high standards of me. They would point to kids they wanted me to be and say "Do you see him. Why can't you be like him."

I feel like I missed a real childhood and I feel guilty for not being grateful for what I have anyways. I get triggered when I see young successful independent happy guys. I feel like was lied to by that ego-driven illusion. That's all it ever was. An illusion. I am nothing more than filthy peasant kid in real life.

I know I need to detach myself from them. It is a struggle since I am stuck living with them and with each year the opportunities had slipped away.

>>231

>By the way, since we seem to spend much of our time daydreaming, what do you guys daydream about?

I regularly indulge that illusion and fantasize about me as a successful man. I daydream about that illusion come to life.

>>242

> but I for one am glad that there are people like me I can talk to about my life. I like the people here, you guys all seem like good, intelligent folks

Thanks anon i think since a lot of us on here have gone through similar life experiences and the fact that we are all hikikomoris we can relate to one another in some way or another.

>>242

>I hate to say it anon, but I think you did. Parents shouldn't treat their children that way. There's nothing wrong with having expectations and pushing your kids to do their best, but openly criticizing and insulting your kid is shitty parenting.

>>244

>I also did this when i was younger i did a lot of volunteer work when i was younger both inside and outside of school but that's mainly because at the time i truly thought i could have a successful future so i wanted to do as good as i could but then again as i said my parents and other adult peers at the same time were forcing me to do stuff i didn't want to do which made me loose interest

On the brightside it is not that I am averse to working. On NEET boards they would rather not work ever or wageslave. I don't know how common this thinking is in hikki community but I used to think this way primarily. For me it was growing up in a manic environment that broke my mind but I wasn't in the right place or maturity to understand these things. It only took me until nearly 30 years to come to it. I try to accomplish more realistic goals on my own will power and it feels good when it happens. That does not happen very often though.

>>244

>>245

Another good thing about this board is that since it is still new and relatively slow, we kind of have a small, tight-knit group here. The only people who come here right now are people who should be here, true hikikomoris. No interlopers or pretenders.

>>246

>On NEET boards they would rather not work ever or wageslave

>I used to think this way primarily

Me too. I used to hate the idea of getting an average job, and being surrounded by people I don't like, doing work I hate, for 40 hours a week. Now I wish I was employed and working towards something.

>>250

>a rich hikki who has a job working from home and he never leaves his house and gets all his servants to do everything for him has anyone else seen his post?? i find him interesting i think we all would like to be like him

Yeah, I saw his post and I envy him. Sounds like he's got it made. I hope to be successful myself someday.

>dont worry i have already banned a few people who were ether shitposting bullying or not hikikomori.

I know. You've been doing a fine job, BO.

>Same here though i still hate being around people

Me too, I would just like to be working towards something better than what I have now.

I came here from reddit. I don't go on chan boards. They are too toxic. They age seems lower (mostly teenagers). I am too old for that shit.

The problem with reddit is that it has what I call a "Facebook problem". Everybody is on it now (mom, dad, grandpa, grandma). They post silly things and everybody believes it because it's a popular post. It has become like Facebook.

>>253

>https://hikkichan.com/hikki/res/2720.html

I agree with >>6058. Hikki exists in the west too. It just has different names. It isn't heroic and it isn't some beautiful tragedy. That is something to identify with and it makes us feel better.

Some things hurt to hear but that doesn't make it less true. For years I went crazy trying to run from it. I went on 4chan /r9k/. I went to incel forums. The foreveralone communities. In the end I only became more toxic and became even crazier in the head. Now I sit here and I am in the same position I was when I was 19 years old (roughly a decade ago).

On those communities there are still 19 year olds complaining about the same things. Sometimes I try to talk to them and help them see more clearly. They don't understand or they ignore my words just I would have when I was that age. They only want to hear their own thoughts confirmed by someone else.

> as western hikkis have little to no support and no where to go people in the west seem to think the way to get a shut-in out of their room is by kicking the door down and forcing them outside and while that may work sometimes it most of the time never does and it is not how you handle issues like these hikikomoriism needs to be better understood in the west

It is true what you say that but it is because it is hard to find people who will try to understand you and help you work through your personal problems. Most will see you has two problems: not in workforce and not thinking right. The solution: send you to job center and give you medication.

It is hard to find someone who will actually help you personally and if you do they cost a lot of money.

>>265

>>265

>I came here from reddit.

Are you from the hikikomori subreddit??.

>>265

>I don't go on chan boards. They are too toxic

How do you feel about this comfy board though??.

>>266

Yes

>>268

I am taking refuge here. It's become clear that actual hikki are quite rare. /r/hikikomori and /r/neet are full of normies with normie life problems. They go there to complain about their problems and pretend that they are like us.

>>278

>. It's become clear that actual hikki are quite rare

Not exactly Japan would say otherwise.

>/rhikikomori and /r/neet are full of normies with normie life problems.

I have experienced this with the NEET subreddit but not the hikikomori subreddit am i missing something??.

>>279

There is one guy who was blog posting on both subreddits. From what I gather he is an engineer in San Francisco.

>>280

I just went there i saw a post of someone talking about dating OP uses the term hikikomori like it means NEET which is a pet peeve of mine OP also seems to think being hikki is a choice i hate these people so much who think its all a joke.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hikikomori/comments/70j6l4/hikikomori_dating/

>>282

>It is insulting how little they understand.

Thank you anon i actually went on there and called them out.

>>284

I posted that.

I was a mod in that discord server and I just got banned. I've been talking shit in a particular board and that one in the screenshot as well.

I'm the biggest asshole ever.

>>281

That one was fucking stupid. It's like watching a reality show where a woman is being interviewed and she says a bunch of shit like it's a legitimate.

"Hikikomori dating" it's the most stupidest shit I've ever read so far.

>>285

> I've been talking shit in a particular board and that one in the screenshot as well.

>I'm the biggest asshole ever.

Wait?? so they banned you because you were talking shit on Hikkichan?? that's stupid.

>>287

Yeah but whatever, I got bullied and such over there. The others get special treatment and such but if it's me then I get told on and what not.

Favoritism is heavy in that discord server. Everyone is always being reassured because they somehow like each other in a way you would be when you're at school and everyone likes that one guy or a girl, you know what I mean? I'm pretty sure I'm being talked about right about now or had been already but I don't care. A lot of them there aren't really friendly but a few of them were. They act the most typical human behavior ever but it's not their fault. Of course it's mine for all that talking shit and I'll take the blame. Admin Iso told me everything about me is a lie. Told him, not all of it. But he didn't want to hear it. Can't blame him for being like that whatsoever.

In all seriousness tho, I've met a few who were cool in that chat. If they catch this post, I'm sorry for everyone else there for being part of it somehow. I didn't mean to. But for the rest, you can go fuck yourselves.

>>288

>If they catch this post, I'm sorry for everyone else there for being part of it somehow. I didn't mean to. But for the rest, you can go fuck yourselves.

Those Discord wagecuck kids aren't allowed here i would ban them.

>>289

It's basically mocking. Even if they're not aware. Taking a whole different meaning when it should be a simple as pouring water in a cup. I know stupid example but hey, it can't be that hard at all. They need to seriously stop using it as an excuse, as a roleplay. It's fucking tiresome.

>>290

I even leaked stuff from a guys-only text channel in that discord channel but whatever. Not a whole lot but they somehow found out my IP log?

Does anyone know if that's legal? I thought it's total anonymity. I didn't think I can be accused of like that, right off the bat.

>>294

oh and I mean not in the discord server but in the hikkichan website, about the IP log.

>>294

>they somehow found out my IP log?

>Does anyone know if that's legal?

Doxxing is illegal it is a federal crime.

>>297

I'm just a bit baffled about it. Admin from discord server talked to the one who is the owner of the Hikkichan site for IP log. Just because I talked shit in that website, he wants to know who it is. Now I don't know how it works exactly but I'm assuming the IP log is the IP address obviously but perhaps it also gives the location of city, state, and country as well? I'd be surprised if it reveals anything more than that from just an anonymous imageboard site.

I should let this go but I feel like something about is wrong. I know I did was wrong but to take many steps because of that and then get banned in the discord server is really something.

>>299

Yeah, I won't worry about it too much. This site really is a cluster fuck. It's unfortunate when a website like that comes up and then later on, it's been given up because they have become condescending normies and what not.

Let's get back on what this thread was all about in the first place.

My daily routine is shit. I wake up later than usual since I'm not an early bird. I'm more of a night owl. So I'd be up around the afternoon. 1PM or a little bit later. I don't bother with food because I'm a lazy fat fuck. Unless I'm in the mood, I'm not rich or have neetbux to eat healthy stuff. I eat whatever there is to have my fill for the day at least.

Usually I skip the food and just get on the computer and check stuff on the net like I've been doing for 10 fucking years. Or play a game that I'm trying hard to finish up, so I can get on with the next. Sometimes I do game hopping. Play one game, lose interest after an hour, play another one, so on and so forth. If I'm in the mood, I'll watch a movie I've been meaning to watch. I have movies that I got and tell myself that I'll watch it when I can but it'll just be there for days or even months until I finally get interested. This is same for other entertainment media, even video games as well. Be it music, manga, a piece of a news article that I thought is interesting but never got around to reading it, etc.

Lately, I'll have a live news up and put it to full screen. Lay on my bed and watch. I don't fall asleep because I'm afraid that I'll fuck up my sleeping schedule again. I somehow get paranoid if I'm awake past 3AM for some reason. Back in high school days, not a single fuck was given and gaming was so interesting back then. Now it's just a lesser feeling of I've already felt and yet I still have an awful passion for video games.

I want to progress little things like learning new pieces to play on the piano, even if it's just an easy one. Going back to a story that I've been working on for a couple of years now and I'm still stuck on chapter 2. My grammar is shit and I have trouble acquiring knowledge on how to quote and stuff because I'm a retard about that part I guess. I'm frustrated knowing that I'm not able to create poems like I used to and I'm thinking it has to do with being in those shitty discord hiki servers. I'm not implying that I blame them but I blame myself for being in them and that it renders me useless on being creative somehow. Making music is being mediocre. No one gave a single fuck about them but that's okay. It's just one of my no-big-deal little hobbies that I kinda like to do. I still have the enjoyment of recording gameplays. I've actually been doing it with video cassette tapes back then. Way before Youtube was a thing. I'd watch my gameplay and see how well I do. My cousins used to watch them too. I thought if they were that interesting, a gaming channel would suffice (when Youtube started) and I'd be happy enough if few people have seen how I play. I don't know, just doing these little things have at least kept me sane I guess.

I know I went off track there but basically my daily routine is just mostly on the computer. Gaming, youtube surfing, sometimes listening to internet radio stations while net surfing, keeping up with current events even if I'm a loser, being at home every day and night. At the end of each day, it sucks to know that this is just mediocre stuff that I'm doing overall. Really wish I wasn't in this shit lifestyle and I always feel like a fucking loser about it. I know I'm a burden to my family and I still am. Trying things I hate to do like looking for a job or maybe at least try to finally get into college is cringe because I have to deal with fucking people and such.

>>300

This

>>301

> It's unfortunate when a website like that comes up and then later on, it's been given up because they have become condescending normies and what not.

I know right

>>288

In my experience, favoritism is the standard on discord, or the majority of chat services for that matter.

>>289

>>293

>>296

This seems to happen all too often with people. They will find a new word or phrase, and without stopping to research its true meaning, they use it as frivolously as possible. I think that's why slang has gotten so out of hand among normalfolk on social medias.

>>302

>Play one game, lose interest after an hour, play another one, so on and so forth. If I'm in the mood, I'll watch a movie I've been meaning to watch. I have movies that I got and tell myself that I'll watch it when I can but it'll just be there for days or even months until I finally get interested. This is same for other entertainment media, even video games as well. Be it music, manga, a piece of a news article that I thought is interesting but never got around to reading it, etc.

I do this too. I wish I knew how to motivate myself to do even the simplest of things.

>>308

>In my experience, favoritism is the standard on discord, or the majority of chat services for that matter.

Chats haven't changed over the years. These people who are doing it nowadays have proved it time and time again. Perhaps it's a tribal kind of thing, especially the social aspects for human beings. It just sucks that people tend to still do this because none of them have too much experience on being in an online social group. So they do the typical thing which is favoring other people because in front of them they're so cool and all. Favoritism is so bullshit.

>>318

I do go out once in while these days for a hour or so for groceries. In my younger years though it was regularly a year or so between when I would leave. More of a semi-hikikimori I guess. I've been living like this since 1998.

op here I wouldn't expect that this thread will reach for all this replies, is we get multiply in the users or it's just an opening dessccion as I can see between some hikkis who indeed exist from the beginning of this board, whatsoever! now I'm just changed a little bit in my daily routine, now I'm exposed to some dessccion with my family more than what I was over the last year I wish to stop but they keep on turning my life to special night mare, they told me that they want the table which I put all my computers on it, even though, I want it since there's no any other thing to put the computers on them, I forced to give it to them and clean it, now I'm lurking from my phone and as you can expected from a smart phone made for the normal trash mind, nothing on earth can describe my feelings away from my world where I can be my self in the upper floor in front of my screens as well as isolated my self from hear all the decisions which going on between my family, I wish to leave but I have no money to support me to pay a rent and buy some food, though I decided to save all the money possible within the coming 2 years and take them with me which might support me for at least another two years in my new apartment, but I bet that I will be able to survive after these two years.

that's away from my English skills I get fucked when I was still sitting up there on my pc don't exposed to my native and interact in it I'm able to notice a huge different, considers as I face some difficulty now to speak the language again as I was before as well as thinking in it, before I sit towards them there was no words in my brain in my native which I remmber them since my last conversation was years ago expect the usual words, so I was like pic up the language more than learning it, though I'm plan to search for something to put my computers again and start improve a little, I take it as a hoppy more than some thing to learn but as usual I get bored,

there's more than 20 films exist in my pc which i decided to watch from April still didn't watch them yet,

I can't fabbing I can't pee in bottles and the space between me and my world is not more than 100 metres

I wonder what's will happen if I go out side

>>321

>they want the table which I put all my computers on it, even though, I want it since there's no any other thing to put the computers on them,

Maybe if you have enough money you could buy another desk or a small table online.

>>322

it's pretty depressing I don't even have some money to buy a table, they refused to give me any money due to I didn't do anything useful at least in their eyes, but fuck i don't want to lift or escape the hole I fell comfy in my world and to be honest these 4 years is the best in my room in spite of all the shit what I exposed to, there's another small one which i bought with my computers but It didn't have enough space for 4 screens, I have to us them all they make me fell better instead of doing all the stuff in only one screen

>>321

>I'm plan to search for something to put my computers again and start improve a little,

Do you have a laptop you could just set on your lap?.

>>323

but I can't even go outside at least I want to but I reached to a point in the hole which prevent me from climb again but I'm still trying to lose some weight, though I realpese asap, I plan to going out in the coming months since it will be cold out there

>>325

yeah I have two, but still found the screen better than them, to be honest I can't see clearly now in my laptop but I'm still using them though, I launch the other 2 screens from them

>>324

So your parents are trying to force you into wagecucking??.

>>329

yeah I you just take it from what they trying to do for me, then yes they want me to either go search for a work and live my own then they will only support me in food, or keep in sitting with them but as a guest didn't have any rights in the home as any one of them even though my brother is sitting here but he's in the uni, they treat him as if he's still a kid, and if he request more than 1000$ they will not complain with half a word

>>314

That guy has issues. I don't know why he made a discord server, when it went dead after a couple of days. I thought he was nice but he's actually a real asshole. Kids like him in their 20's, yes in their 20's. I'm talking about maybe 20-25 year olds acting childish and say stupid shit to others who are actually hikis. No fucking consideration and no dignity for themselves. Just one of your typical trolls.

>>317

>>319

>19 years.

>I've been living like this since 1998.

Fuckin' a.

And I thought 10 years is already wizard level.

I've started this damn lifestyle since after I graduated high school in 2006. Needless to say, it's been like it ever since the 90's. I don't go out much. I'm pretty much a homebody. Although like you, I'm needed for helping to bring the groceries in and such. To me, I can't be that useless.

>>328

It is pretty nice, especially during the summer when you don't have to bundle up.

>>326

>but I can't even go outside at least I want to but I reached to a point in the hole which prevent me from climb again

I'm not sure what you mean by that. You can't sneak out for 20 minutes in the middle of the night or anything?

>>332

>It is pretty nice, especially during the summer when you don't have to bundle up.

True not a fan of winter weather to be honest because when i do have to go out for food or whatever i hate walking in the snow and for me it usually takes longer to get from point A. to point B. so yeah i fucking hate that the good thing about winter though is that my room gets warmer though.

>>331

>That guy has issues. I don't know why he made a discord server, when it went dead after a couple of days. I thought he was nice but he's actually a real asshole. Kids like him in their 20's, yes in their 20's. I'm talking about maybe 20-25 year olds acting childish and say stupid shit to others who are actually hikis. No fucking consideration and no dignity for themselves. Just one of your typical trolls.

Exactly and he technically just outed himself as a normalfag even though he doesn't wanna admit it and the fact that he uses those cancerous emojis shows how immature he is.

>>313

I experienced it in IRC days in smaller gaming communities. There can be cliques and in groups. Sometimes one group holds more administrative power and makes it hard for the rest of the community.

That kind of thing doesn't interest me anymore. Not since 6-7 years ago.

>>336

I should have known better. Sometimes I wish I didn't join discord in the first place but I wouldn't know how people operate nowadays than back then. Suffice to say, they're no different.

Cliques, exclusive groups, favoritism, and all that stuff are how we don't operate too well in and out of society. We're too accustomed to status and 2-dimensional mind set that we can never outright the previous whom fell victim to the dreaded social aspects of life.

>>346

Yes, exactly.

>>347

I found that comment on this video it's an old one but still a beautiful piece of art to this day showing what we have to go through.

>>365

>ah looks like were hikki twins then, fellow shut in

I know right

My routine is not very different, I think. I usually wake up at a random time of the day that is influenced by whether or not I get to sleep, as I sometimes will stay up for more than 24 hours. I immediately get on the Internet usually and don't do much else but this. The interest of the day varies. But usually I'm on IRC or some kind of IM for the majority of my time. I also listen to a lot of music. Although I used to be very interested in seeking out new things, I just listen to similar or same things all day. My pattern of eating is irregular as I often run out of food. After this happens, I might go to my parents' house and take some food as they live next door. But I usually can't be bothered, and so I make weird substitutions or just things which don't taste good. Sometimes I might feel passionate about something for a bit and do what I can in the way of entertaining it. It lasts a few days at most. While this happens, my focus is directed entirely towards this thing.

This has been my way of life consistently since leaving high school in 2015. When I was in school, the tendencies were already in place to make my life like this. I hate my life, and I would like to change. Obviously it's not that easy. However, when I am pressured by my family, as I really would like to make them feel better about being related to me, I might go outside with them very reluctantly. This is usually almost always because I have to shop for food. Otherwise, I never leave. I often feel poorly for those who know me. I might come to this board more often and more actively because people are friendly and understand this sickness.

I'm sorry if my writing is hard to understand. I have a place on the schizophrenic spectrum, and it is untreated.

>>370

>People still use that??.

Yes, IRC is still pretty popular among some netizens. It's not very active like a lot of Discord servers who may even have 25% of a userbase in a single IRC channel. I have seen channels with over 100 users that are quiet for hours on end, or one post, and no replies. It's very quiet and good for my anxious nature, even in more active places.

>Did you drop out?? or did you graduate and are 20 years old now??.

I am a graduate, but my increasingly bad grades in the 9th grade onward made it clear I wasn't fit for college. My school counselor discouraged me from seeking education in a college offline since I had at one point an interest in a fairly nice college.

>Do you live in an apartment that is close to your parents house??.

No, it's a weird situation. We live in a campground all year, in nice house-like campers. We're too poor to afford a proper house or apartment despite my mother being a trained professional and both of my parents having an excellent work ethic.

At any rate, thank you for your kind words.

>>371

> I have seen channels with over 100 users that are quiet for hours on end, or one post, and no replies. It's very quiet and good for my anxious nature, even in more active places.

That is how i wanna keep this board just a small comfy board for hikikomoris to talk on i dont want this board to become a /b/ or /a/ and gain a big user base just a few people who relate to one another is fine.

>I wasn't fit for college. My school counselor discouraged me from seeking education

That sucks anon im sorry to hear that.

>Its a weird situation. We live in a campground all year, in nice house-like campers. We're too poor to afford a proper house

So do you like live in a cabin in the woods with your parents??.

>Thank you for your kind words

No problem anon.

>>372

>i dont want this board to become a /b/ or /a/ and gain a big user base just a few people who relate to one another is fine.

I like this board as it is too. A giant userbase is usually full of people who are just pretending when it comes to things like being a hikikomori. I see a lot of people here talking about how it's bad to pretend, and it's a good thing to discourage giving this advice of how to be one. I feel like this is the same way people used to act about schizophrenia or being "crazy" in any sense on the Internet.

>So do you like live in a cabin in the woods with your parents??.

No, it's more like a small community.

>>373

>I see a lot of people here talking about how it's bad to pretend, and it's a good thing to discourage giving this advice of how to be one. I feel like this is the same way people used to act about schizophrenia or being "crazy" in any sense on the Internet.

Yeah that is how we feel on here as real actual hikkis don't like being mocked for who they are i am sure you feel the same way anon i created this board to give real hikikomoris a place to talk away from all the cancer on hikki communities like Hikkichan and the Hikikomori Subreddit which is full of normalfags this place is just a small comfy board for true hikkis and i would like to keep it that way to be honest.

>No its more like a small community.

Im confused you mean like a trailer park or something??.

>>373

>A giant userbase is usually full of people who are just pretending when it comes to things like being a hikikomori.

What's worse is that they mock. Even if they don't think they're not. They're damaging others who are actually hikis. It's already enough they they're struggling who are complete opposite of a hikikomori and yet they walk all over us like carpets.

>>379

>Yeah that is how we feel on here as real actual hikkis don't like being mocked for who they are i am sure you feel the same way anon i created this board to give real hikikomoris a place to talk away from all the cancer on hikki communities like Hikkichan and the Hikikomori Subreddit which is full of normalfags this place is just a small comfy board for true hikkis and i would like to keep it that way to be honest.

I wish there was a discord server strictly for the real, true hikimori only but I've seen it failed a couple of times. This board is good so far and I hope it tends to be that way for a very long time. I don't speak for others but I hate to see the real ones getting mocked by them.

>>380

>I wish there was a discord server strictly for the real, true hikimor

That has been tried before the Hikkichan Discord is trash.

>>379

>actual hikkis don't like being mocked for who they are i am sure you feel the same way anon

Yes, I don't even really like to joke about it myself now that it consumes my life. Mocking is painful to almost everyone, but it can be very damaging when it's something like hiki. It's much more personal to me at least.

>Im confused you mean like a trailer park or something??.

It's so hard to explain. It's a vacation spot for people who like to camp, and you can bring tents or a camper or something, whatever. There are also houses to rent. But a small group stays all year, including my family and some others. It is very busy during weekends and holidays but it is virtually dead in winter. Because we live in a subtropical and humid climate, it's very warm anyway.

>>380

>They're damaging others who are actually hikis. It's already enough they they're struggling who are complete opposite of a hikikomori and yet they walk all over us like carpets.

Yes. I think a lot of this kind of thing comes from wanting to identify with an outsider group. For those who aren't on the fringes of society, and don't know what it's like, it can seem ideal or maybe cool. So it's romanticized. Even if there are aspects of being a hiki I enjoy, I don't ever want anyone to get the impression that I am speaking highly of it. Because I actually hate my life and my person. Years of isolation imposed on yourself do not make you cool or admirable.

That is the problem I have with it, I think. That non-hiki think it's cool, but they don't know much about it. It's not a death sentence but can sometimes feel like one.

>I wish there was a discord server strictly for the real, true hikimori only but I've seen it failed a couple of times

I don't like most of the users on public Discord servers. They are always speaking in memespeak and being generally obtuse and annoying. This is probably a contributing factor. A quiet hiki server will need to be more private. I think careful moderation is essential. It's important to distinguish between real hiki and pretenders and deal with it correctly.

A system that might work would be having a "front" for the server. This is where the normalfags and pretenders can play and have fun. But when someone speaks honestly about the hikikomori experience, they could be granted a pass to a quieter area and probably just mute the front. I know some servers do things like this for regular users.

I consider a channel on IRC sometimes. But it is so common to see a channel with less than 5 users who never talk even on more general topics.

>>393

>How long have you lived around there anon??.

I just moved here this year, but my family has been here for longer.

>I know right tell me about it normalfags are cancer to be honest.

It isn't too bad on some servers. Others they will call you cringey and autistic for trying to speak to someone normally. Then they speak in meme language and later admit they are actually 14 years old. I understand the mindset though. I would like to join the Hikkichan server just to check it out, but I'm anxious. It doesn't sound good anyway though.

>>384

> They are always speaking in memespeak and being generally obtuse and annoying.

I can not stand the way they speak like that. Imo, it really dumbs yourself down. When someone talks like that for a long time, it's integrated with the way they talk and there's no way to get them anymore intelligent than they already are. It sets themselves up from understanding/learning anything else. They only want to understand what they want to understand. Not what they need to understand.

>>396

>When someone talks like that for a long time, it's integrated with the way they talk

Yes, exactly. I can't imagine being around them in real life.

>They only want to understand what they want to understand. Not what they need to understand.

Viewpoints would differ on what does this mean, but I think it's generally true for many if not most humans. But it can be so subjective anyway. A religious conservative would say they need to understand [religion] and its place. A leftist progressive will say someone needs to understand how our society is placing many social groups on a lower level. These are just two extremes, but you know what I mean.

>>402

>It is awful most of the people in there are /r9k/ wagecuck kids who think being a NEET is a cool edgy meme none of them are actual hikkis

Disgusting.

>a lot of them also post pictures of themselves in that server which i find to be really odd to be honest

Yeah, that does seem weird. What kind of pictures? Like how most would take a picture of themselves to show off to their friends?

>also not sure if you browse the hikkichan site but its an imageboard for hikikomoris but because the site literally has no rules the people from the Discord like to come on the site and shit up the board there is more shit posting than actual discussion happening on there.

I looked around a bit but it seemed rather slow despite being in such a state. I don't think I'd frequently post there.

>>403

>Viewpoints would differ on what does this mean, but I think it's generally true for many if not most humans. But it can be so subjective anyway. A religious conservative would say they need to understand [religion] and its place. A leftist progressive will say someone needs to understand how our society is placing many social groups on a lower level. These are just two extremes, but you know what I mean.

Of course, viewpoints are differentiated because people have personal opinions about anything. I mean generally speaking, most people tend to only understand what they want to put in their mind and accept it as is. It's never the other way where you can be open-minded about a lot of things. But that's just me. I think it's sufficient if a lot of us are open-minded. This is probably a contradicting statement but I want to see everything in all sides before establishing a conclusion somehow.

>>403

> What kind of pictures? Like how most would take a picture of themselves to show off to their friends?

They just take selfies of themselves.

>I looked around a bit but it seemed rather slow despite being in such a state

Yeah it can be like that technically the admin of the site doesn't care about it anymore and now it just exist.

>>404

Oh okay, sorry anon, I misunderstood. You have a pretty good way of thinking.

> I mean generally speaking, most people tend to only understand what they want to put in their mind and accept it as is. It's never the other way where you can be open-minded about a lot of things.

>This is probably a contradicting statement but I want to see everything in all sides before establishing a conclusion somehow.

I was told that people avoid going out of their comfort zone as a natural way of avoiding stress. Being confronted with things like questioning long-standing personal beliefs can be very traumatic to someone. A lot of individuals as a result probably don't seek to challenge their beliefs without much thought and just operate on autopilot. Normalfags especially, but even some more politically-active individuals. I try to challenge my beliefs and intentions, but have a strong inclination to a way of thinking.

Also, nice 404.

>>405

>Yeah it can be like that technically the admin of the site doesn't care about it anymore and now it just exist.

That's too bad. An imageboard made for hikikomori can be so good if the rules are actually enforced. What else would the admin or mod team have to do? They're hikikomori, aren't they?

>>406

>I was told that people avoid going out of their comfort zone as a natural way of avoiding stress. Being confronted with things like questioning long-standing personal beliefs can be very traumatic to someone. A lot of individuals as a result probably don't seek to challenge their beliefs without much thought and just operate on autopilot. Normalfags especially, but even some more politically-active individuals. I try to challenge my beliefs and intentions, but have a strong inclination to a way of thinking.

I believe that sometimes we need to go out of our way to question a lot of things and to learn about them along the way. It helps not only you but maybe for others to give them an eye-opening idea that they never thought about before. If they retract to what they've been thinking all along then that's fine too. It's not that I'm convincing anything to change their minds. I'm actually giving them more to think about.

>>408

>>408

>I believe that sometimes we need to go out of our way to question a lot of things and to learn about them along the way. It helps not only you but maybe for others to give them an eye-opening idea that they never thought about before.

This

This is the very first thread on /hikki/ to have over 100 replies.

>>479

What kind of things do you work on, anon?

>>481

I make vidya very slowly. Not because I want to, mind you, I spend all my free time on it, but rather because gamedev is hard, especially if you respect yourself and don't want to put out an inferior product. and I suppose my standards for myself are fairly high, but I'm not going to compromise. Normies might accept it but normies accept anything so their word is irrelevant.

>>479

Are you happy with being a hikki who works from home anon?.

>>488

>work

Well, it's not job work, like I mentioned here >>483 .

If I could get a job from home that's not too overbearing, I might try it out, but the ones I've seen require experience and college degrees, and 3 more years of school would drive me to my bloody grave.

>>489

>If I could get a job from home that's not too overbearing, I might try it out

I actually am interested in trying it out as well.

>>214

That's anhedonia, pretty much just a symptom of being extremely depressed. I have it too. I'm unable to do anything sometimes.

>>503

How many computer monitors do you have??.

>>508

Three. One for console usually, other for work, other one for whatever

>>509

>Three. One for console usually, other for work, other one for whatever

Nice i have 2 laptops and a desktop.

>>571

>discord

Why are you even bothering with that shitty normalfag hang out?? especially with the Hikkichan Discord which is cancer.

>>599

>>499

Don't wanna be an asshole, but that didn't turn out well for me.

Game dev is a horrible job, and I had to quit it recently because the audience is just cruel. I wouldn't encourage anyone to do it.

I understand that you probably don't have many other career options as a hikki, but your audience knows that very well too, and they will abuse your position.

It's very likely that I'll die anyway, so I quit to give myself some peace in the last few months.

>>600

>I understand that you probably don't have many other career options as a hikki, but your audience knows that very well too

What about working from home as a computer programmer??,

Also, I do not have a routine. Every day is horrible in its own unique way.

>>601

Not worth it in my case. It won't improve my life at all, it might not even prolong it.

Also, the idea that I should lend my skills to some normalfag because other normalfags decided I'm not worthy enough to get paid for my own projects, it sickens me.

>>571

>>check discord

Which discord servers are you on?

>>603

>The idea that I should lend my skills to some normalfag because other normalfags decided I'm not worthy enough to get paid for my own projects, it sickens me.

Okay you do have a point there anon.

>>608

>tohno

Do you browse Tohno chan at all??.

>>600

Don't beat yourself up, anon. After all, video games are wildly popular right now, it only makes sense that it would be a highly-competitive field. Back when I was in college, I had an instructor who had worked in the video game industry for a few years, he said was the hardest he had ever worked, and he wasn't even a code-monkey, he was one of the artists. When the game finally came out, it didn't even catch on here in the US, it only got a small following in France for some reason. I doubt anyone here thinks any less of you for casting it aside, it's an unforgiving business run by unforgiving people. Be proud of yourself for sticking with it as long as you did.

>>698

That's not helpful. I'm not beating myself up. I know it's a cutthroat field. I just hate the audience now and wouldn't trust them with an mspaint scribble, let alone another five years of my life.

I don't even want to give them what I've already made. The least I can do is not reward them for treating me like shit.

>>641

yes, but not as much as I once did, but I could say that for all chans really

>>742

>yes, but not as much as I once did, but I could say that for all chans really

Me too it is so comfy on there and the admin is a cool guy is /hikki/ the only board you browse regularly now??.

>>750

on hikkichan, yes, on 8ch I sometimes use /v9k/, /v/, /cute/ and one other I can't quite remember

>>783

I use /v/ /r9k/ /v9k/ /co/ /a/ /b/ /jp/ and this board.

>>608

>hikkichan

>>783

How long have you been in that discord server?

It's been so long for me I honestly don't even remember what I do every day anymore, nothing is of any consequence or memorable in any way. If my PC dies I have nothing left and will probably kill myself.

>>822

>If my PC dies I have nothing left and will probably kill myself.

If i had to live in isolation without tv and computer i would kill myself as well.

>>815

me

liberty

monarchy

hikki

roze

lang

bmw

pdfs

an on 4ch

>>922

Are you a monarchist too?

Could it be a hikki thing?

as for me:

hikki, monarchy, r9k, v9k, pol, a, jp, vr

>>929

im not a monarchist

We don't want to see you pick your nose.

>>997

What?.

am i the only one here who tries to work out for 20-30 minutes a day? I'm too afraid of doctors to seek meds and i've found doing body weight stuff in my room helps a lot with reducing anxiety attacks

>>1014

>am i the only one here who tries to work out for 20-30 minutes a day?

No you're not the only one i exercise sometimes as well because i feel if i'm gonna spend the entirety of my life in my room may as well try to keep healthy as much as possible also exercising relaxes me.

>Im too afraid of doctors to seek meds

Same

>>1314

>I do some squats at times while waiting for food to cook but thats about it

I use to do this.

>>1317

>I've heard from so many normies and /r9k/fags that lifting is the ultimate cure-all for everything, even bloody cancer,

Ignore those guys their just shitposting.

>>1317

>I've heard from so many normies and /r9k/fags that lifting is the ultimate cure-all for everything

Lifting is a meme. I focus on just controlling my own body weight. It's attainable and feels nice. Plus i can do it alone in my room without anyone knowing

>Made me despise myself for getting tired so fast, made me feel weak, powerless and inadequate

I hate this too. I'm convinced there's something wrong with me because i can't build stamina at all and my body gets so weak and shaky even after a light workout. I'm maxed out at 20 push-ups on a good day after i've focused on it, MAYBE 4 pull-ups, and maybe 35 sit ups. I suck

>I wouldn't dare say that I'm not in shape, though

>I'm 111lbs 5'8"

You're doing better than me, mr bones. I'm overweight 170lbs 5'10". Entirely to do with eating problems where i won't be hungry all day and then eat until i feel sick when the cravings hit. I used to weigh around 230 but lost that and have stayed around 170 since

>>1320

>I'm maxed out at 20 push-ups on a good day after i've focused on it, MAYBE 4 pull-ups, and maybe 35 sit ups

Same

>I used to weigh around 230 but lost that and have stayed around 170 since

About 5 years ago i was 135 then i lost weight due to stress and depression and not eating when i get depressed i have a habit of not eating so for awhile it went down to 103 and while my weight was at 103 i was constantly throwing up like every other day thank god that doesn't happen anymore now within the last year my weight has gone back up and i am now 121.

>>214

it sounds dumb and recycled, but the solution is literally to go outside.

sitting around inside 24/7 makes your body unhappy, and if your body is unhappy, your brain won't be far behind.

i'm sure you have plenty of people irl who are happy to tell you You're Doing It wrong, so i'm gonna skip all that and tell you what worked for me.

walk outside at least once a day. just walk; around the block, around your yard, around your apartment complex courtyard or whatever. the human body is designed to be mobile, and you literally need to photosynthesize.

i walk around the block as soon as i wake up (usually predawn; if you go to sleep around this time, that is also convenient). its best to get out the door while you're still groggy so you can't wibble on the decision. i tend to see only very old men out for morning constitutional and men driving to/from work. it is very safe, and you are back inside when normies are just waking up.

there is always hope. you're gonna make it.

>>1395

You're not alone anon. I used to weigh 63kg when I was 17. I'm 30 now and I'm over 115kg last time I checked. I also used to 'suffer' from bulimia and honestly I can say that outside of the sheer effort and time involved with regurgitating everything I was a lot happier in that situation than I am now.

At least back then I cared enough about my self worth to go through that effort. Now I'm sloth incarnate wallowing in a life of filth and misery of my own creation. Such is life I suppose.

>>1395

Just stop eating/drinking sugar and start feeling immense hatred toward your eating habits and cry when you make bad decisions, it's a great diet. Also do push-ups and stuff and cry about how weak you are.

i lost about 60lbs like this

>>1398

Being awake in the early morning hours is the best, ideally i like to wake up around midnight and enjoy the cool crisp night air with my window open. Then fall asleep with the afternoon warmth caressing me to sleep. But this only works in summer.

>Also, off-topic, but why was >>319 banned? Does obtaining sustenance make you a normie?

because he goes outside? i dunno, seems like bullshit or a mistake

>>1398

That sounds like my day anon.

>Why was >>319 banned? Does obtaining sustenance make you a normie?

That was a mistake.

>>1398

I take cold showers. I've read that cold showers were good for the hair and skin, help stimulate weight-loss, and increase testosterone production in men. I've been doing this for the past few months. I haven't seen any big results, but at this point I'm too used to taking cold showers so I just keep doing it.

>>1400

I try to cut down on what I eat, but my biggest obstacle is that my parents cook in large quantities. Not only that, but when I was growing up, my parents put tons of pressure on me not to waste food. These two things cause me to overeat on many occasions. I'm doing what I can to control my portions, but some days it's difficult to avoid food.

Also, as far as exercise goes, do you (or anyone else) know some good exercises to do in enclosed spaces? I don't have much available space in my room, and although I do push-ups and squats when I can, it would help if I had more variety in my workouts.

>>1406

it's true actually, though over about a year of acting like that, also didn't mention that i often starve myself

>>1408

>my biggest obstacle is that my parents cook in large quantities

I know this feel, when i'm forced to be around family i gain weight. In only 3 fucking weeks i gained 4 lbs being at my grandma's because all they do is eat. Blows my mind how they're not all huge

>do you (or anyone else) know some good exercises to do in enclosed spaces?

>don't have much available space in my room

I'm in the same situation. Look up the U.S. Army's PT routines. Some of that shit is really stupid, but try the whole regimen one day and just find what you like. Mosy of it is meant to be done in a small space with just your body weight except for the running drills which are dumb as fuck. Few things i would recommend is the mountain climber, the side bridge, back bridge. Also i don't think butterfly kicks are in there but that's a good one too.

make sure your push-up form is good too, and switch it up, alternate hand positions and foot positions/elevations, i personally like doing elevated push-ups because it's less restricting

>>1413

>I'm in the same situation. Look up the U.S. Army's PT routines. Some of that shit is really stupid, but try the whole regimen one day and just find what you like. Mosy of it is meant to be done in a small space with just your body weight except for the running drills which are dumb as fuck. Few things i would recommend is the mountain climber, the side bridge, back bridge. Also i don't think butterfly kicks are in there but that's a good one too.

>make sure your push-up form is good too, and switch it up, alternate hand positions and foot positions/elevations, i personally like doing elevated push-ups because it's less restricting

Thanks anon ill. keep this in mind.

>>1413

>Look up the U.S. Army's PT routines. Some of that shit is really stupid, but try the whole regimen one day and just find what you like. Mosy of it is meant to be done in a small space with just your body weight except for the running drills which are dumb as fuck.

I'll look into this. Like I said, I don't have much space in my room, so any exercises I can add to my workout for more variety is helpful. Thank you, anon.

>>1416

>>1436

you're welcome, hope you get something out of it

>>821

I would have guessed a month two, but I left not long ago because it wasn't really for me

>>1596

>I left not long ago because it wasn't really for me

Same

>>479

Pretty much sums up my life.

7pm

wake up and take a piss (prob in a bottle if they are full i go to the bathroom)

8pm play vidya

9pm still vidya

10pm family asleep get food

11pm vidya

12pm-8am pc or vidya

go back to bed.

>>3064

>(prob in a bottle if they are full i go to the bathroom)

Me personally i would never sink as low as piss bottles tbh.

>>3068

it's convenient. and bottles are air tight so just piss in em and store em away you don't have to leave your room unless you gotta shit.

>>3069

For me, I keep borders I don't want to cross. And a piss bottle is one of those.

>>4586

I am sure when we all die and end up as haibane you will be nemu.

>>4586

>>4593

I take a series of extended naps. I'll sleep for 6 hours, stay up for 6, sleep 6, etc. I stay tired 24/7. No sleep schedule at all.

>>1406

I changed my diet to purely keto (less than 20g of carbohydrates a day) and lost 60 pounds by doing that (as well as kickboxing). This was before I became a hikki. I have kept the same diet as before but I rarely exercise now. I stopped losing so much weight after a while. I'm still not skinny by any means but I do feel like I have more energy with this diet.

>>6389

>I'm still not skinny by any means but I do feel like I have more energy with this diet.

Well that's good at least.

I spend my days just missing hikkichan.

>>6431

>I spend my days just missing hikkichan.

Why? hikkichan.com was shit.

>>6435

At least there was some anonymity and it wasn't on 8chan.

>>6479

>At least there was some anonymity and it wasn't on 8chan.

Well better than nothing would you rather have a hikikomori community full of normalfags or a hikikomori community full of actual hikkis coming together to talk to each other?

>>208

>wake up whenever

I've had trouble sleeping for most of my life, childhood problems, so after I left the army, with noone in contact on a day to basis and no job, that quickly turned into a serious issue whereby my sleep "schedule" doesn't align with anyone. I was friends for about 5-6 years, in FFXI and later FFXIV with someone who was a neet at one point in their lives and I remember listening to them talk about because they enjoyed my reactions to it, but I guess my curiousity's satisfied now, having lived this way for a year, and declined into it a year prior. I just wish I could still talk to them. Our friendship ended probably because we were both at bad points in our lives.

>turn on the computer

>brush my teeth

>make tea

>get rid of AP in FGO

>browse the web, watch some documentaries

>make lunch sometimes, or just make more tea

>play with mmd

I try to do this later in the day, or when I'm more woken up, because if you try to animate when you're still sleepy, you'll just make garbage clunky animations that are typical of mmd.

>make dinner

>try to sleep

If I can't sleep, or I keep waking up, things get a bit too complicated to describe, but it's basically go back to step one.

I'm not on welfare, but I won't run out of money for a long while, but I know something has to be done, otherwise, I probably won't last very long mentally.

>>1436

I get this is a really old post, and I hope you're well, but also consider pilates. Also, jogging on the spot is good cardio. If you vary and mix things up, you won't get bored. And the more things you do, the more parts of your body you hit, and you more likely you'll finish the workout. Being sedentary for long periods of time in this lifestyle makes it "difficult" to get going, because your muscles have atrophied, but if you feel tired at the end of your workout, you're making progress, and it's never too late to get going again.

On a normal day where my parents won't let me browse the internet :

>Wake Up at 6~7

>Watch TV

>Breakfast

>TV

>Lunch

>TV

>Dinner

>TV

> Sleep at 23

>>6583

Don't you fap?

My daily routine revolves around what I do on the computer since I actively avoid any interaction with the people I live with.

>wake up at 8 PM

>eat

>computer

>eat

>watch animu

>sleep at 11 AM-2 PM

Personal hygiene is taken care of depending on how I feel. If I'm having a bout of depression I may not take a shower for a week or even longer. If I feel particularly good it could be every day. This includes haircuts and beard maintenance. Sometimes I look like a hobo and sometimes I look like a respectable member of society.

>>6582

>I also hate the image board culture

Why? And why are you even here if that's the case?

>>6583

>my parents won't let me browse the internet

How old are you, out of curiosity?

>>6588

20, it's just that they refuse giving me money and i don't work or anything so i end up begging and go through the same cycle a day or two later

>>6584

I reached the point where i became asexual. Sure, i feel sexual desires rarely but it's not daily and i don't fap everytime.

Fapping just makes you feel embarassed and regretful afterwards and i can't see the point in doing it.

>>6589

I haven't had any money for years, apart from an occasional gift card for birthdays. Food and shelter is all I need, so I'd be damned to let anyone tell me what I can and can't do, especially when it comes to my computer. I've been told that can ask for things if I need them but I refuse to do so partially out of pride and not wanting to feel indebted.

What do you spend money on if you don't mind me asking?

>>6591

I don't have money in the first place there is no wifi hotspot where i live so i end up begging for money to charge my internet connection

Wake up at 12pm

Drink a lot of gatorade.

Sleep until 2pm

Bathroom, noshower

eat junk food or old unrefridgerated pizza

computer to 8chan 3pm

Interest reading 4pm-6pm

more food, maybe boozes

porn to fap 7pm-9pm

more reading w/ tv in background and 8chan 9-12pm

12pm-4am dirtier porn.

4am movie on on bedroom tv and drink or take benzodiazepines

>wake up

>take pills

>vegetate playing video games all day

>if i get frustrated i will watch anime or masturbate

>when late enough and everyone is asleep i go into the kitchen and binge eat

>take pills

>sleep

>>6627

only times i deviate from this is when i can go buy booze or when my grandma makes me go out to eat

>wake up at 8 am

>brush teeth and eat breakfast

>jack off

>shower (sometimes)

>watch anime for 6 hours

>eat lunch

>play league of legends with some online friends

>jack off

>go to sleep

>>Wake up

>>neglect hygeine

>>stayinsideandeatfreezer food for breakfast-mode

>>game like a mad man, which is to say, a man who has schizophreniform symptoms, including apathy, so I don't enjoy the game then give up and->

>>sleep again

>>more food

>>jerk off like a mad man, which is to say, a man who has a connoseirs appreciation of the pantheon of pornography.

>>have sex with my live-in cousin who looks like a sexy bitch

>>become a dad.

<no shit. Cousin fucking can get you life change big much

>>314

That cap has to be the funniest thing I've read all day (night?). It's like someone took lines from copypastas and put them in a hat.

>>6689

??

>>4586

I wish I could quit masturbating.

When I stop for a week I actually end up getting things done.

>>6775

I reccomend that if you have a DS, Vita, or a last gen console that you put custom firmware on it

I was just like you but when I hacked my consoles then I could play any game I wanted and its really lifted me out of depression and given me plenty to do

neet 10y+ and live alone

>wake up

>cooking (all day meal)

>eat

>clean house

>movie/tv or shitposting or youtube

>eat

>some project i work on

>lifting (home gym)

>eat

>fap

>shower

>editing some video or reading some random stuff

>bed

>>6777

The thing is i have no console and i'm not even sure where to buy consoles. I'm so sheltered and i have practically no life experience in anything. I remember my parents bought me a NES since i reminisce how i used to enjoy playing duck hunt as a kid and i kept rummaging through the house but i couldn't find it. I only found that fucking gun you shoot with which makes me very sad.

>>6782

you know Amazon or ebay is a thing,right?

>>6783

You know that not everyone lives in a first world country and can use their daddy's credit card to make micro transactions right ?

>>6784

>You know that not everyone lives in a first world country

he had NES as kid and can shitpost on internet,even most 3rd country have online shopping sites

>credit card

debit card or cash,only american love using credit card

>>369

Your writing is understandable. No worries. What sort of substitutions do you make with your food?

Some variation of napping, staring aimlessly at the carpet or the ceiling for what feels like hours, forcing myself to play video games out of desperation to escape from myself, jerking off periodically in between archiving whatever new lewd material happens to interest me, & browsing the literal handful of non-porn related places I go to on the internet. I only eat one meal a day. Sometimes two, but I usually don't eat until 4 to 5 hours after I've gotten up, so by the time I'm hungry enough to eat again, I'm pretty much ready to go to sleep for the rest of the day/night, so I just do that instead, mostly out of laziness. I have a shower every few days and shave/brush my teeth every couple weeks and that's about it hygiene wise.

Not much of a routine in the traditional sense really, but, even so, I'm still essentially repeating the same shit day in & day out like my own personal Groundhog Day-esque purgatory of sorts. A lot of people are trapped in that sort of thing, though. The emptiness, tediousness & pain of a dreary, futile life. When all's said & done, reality sucks and it's boring. There's really no getting around that, hikikomori or not. There's nothing one could ever do to change or escape from it, aside from sleep or suicide. It's simply a fact of existence.

I wish I could just lay in bed all day and do nothing, but with the way my thoughts torment me, it'd be impossible. I shuffle around restlessly. Throw myself at a game, so I don't feel like I'm wasting my time. Can't even post on imageboards because I can never think of what to say, or someone else has already said it better than I could already, stealing whatever minimal willpower I have to express myself in the process. May as well not say anything at all, ultimately. No one gives a shit anyway. Nor should they. This is the only forum/message board I go to. I don't even lurk anywhere else.

>>602

Yes, indeed. I find myself feeling the same.

.Get up around noon

.make coffee

.Browse for about 20 minutes and think about what I need to get done today (I do 2D animation so I either have to draw new keyframes in sketchbook or do in-betweens)

.Work on animations for around 1&1/2 hour

.Eat while watching something on Youtube

.Distracted animation work for another 2 hours

.Take break/eat while watching Youtube

.Either assess that I can't get any more meaningful work done today, eat and go to bed

Or

.Last hour of work, eat and go to bed

I'm trying to make this an every day thing but there's some days where there's zero motivation whatsoever

>>1406

Hiki doesn't mean all sugar. There is sugar in bread and milk and most plants are basically just one big sugar. I suspect Hekki means cut out table sugar, like the kind you put in tea or coffee and some times sprinkle on cereal. Also include sugar in manufactured foods like soda and candy. Just think of how hekki feel now the same way x-smokers think about cigarettes; they really don't like them.

That said, I can recommend cutting out table sugar. It really makes a difference, even if your not overweight to start with.

Wake up at random times, depends when i sleep

>take tablets

>get on PC browse favourite sites

>play a game if i can muster enough energy

>usually just watch videos/anime

>eat whenever hungry

>shower every day or every two days because i don't like feeling dirty

I sleep whenever im tired and sometimes when im depressed that can be sleep 8 hours, stay awake 8 hours and then sleep again. Can barely function unless i've slept a full 8 hours.

Usually spend all day watching streams of people playing games as it gives me some sense of company and I don't have the energy to play them myself