e2a345 No.330858 [View All]
Mod edit: A Plan Has Been Formulated. See The following shortcut and do your part after reading!
>>331188
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http://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/06/nintendo-localizers-now-work-with-japanese-devs-to-censor-games-for-western-culture/33309/
http://archive.is/Nl9i3
>“When we have costumes or clothes that we have a little concern with, we share it with NoE and NoA and they’ll say, ‘No, no, that’s fine’ or ‘You’re right, that’s an issue.’ If it is an issue, we’ll go back and say we’ll say, ‘We adjusted it this way, what do you think?’ There’s a lot of back and forth in that sense. Rather than compromise, it’s like we’re all aiming for the same goal, of being able to provide a good experience for everybody in all regions. And we’re aiming to have a game that has very little difference between the regions.”
The language barrier has been used by SJWeebs and translators to tell Jap devs one thing, while another happens in the west.
In fact, a Jap politician had to point out in their parliament that the American MSM called the election so wrong that why should they trust their word on other matters.
We know that this is the start of a slow-boil tactic to be applied over generations to Japan (possible combined with Olympics to cuck and de-homogenize them) until they make the same shit western AAA currently do.
This isn't like South Korea who got lucky and managed to throw out their leader.
This isn't like America where their leader's mere existence is making the mouth-pieces so mad they're destroying 20 years of marxism.
This is a nation who aren't prepared for a concentrated effort to undermine them. And being the world is turning away from globalism- they will focus on new foot-holds.
What this OP entails or needs is unsure right now.
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ca02fd No.330907
Here's a draft translation for OP's article, as requested by >>330900. I'm waiting for someone to correct it as we speak.
Any other job? Please cut it down to smaller pieces, the translation of said article alone took me 10 hours.
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e2a345 No.330919
>>330907
I could fucking kiss you!!
Great work!
There won't be anything for a while, probably when the draft post to 2chan is sorted. Great work mate.
We now need someone to verify this translation is correct
Mombot? Ronin? Others??
Then, We need to find Jap devs on western social media who speak english to show it to.
Finally, We need a way to post on 2chan so we can post the translated article.
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e2a345 No.330922
>>330907
Feedback from Mombot.
> The translation isn't bad. There are grammar issues and irregularities but generally the message gets across.
< Awsome. Would you recommend sending it to developers in the state it is in (assuming we removed the bolded parts where the translation was off, and replaced it with highlights of key points)?
> I think so, but you will need to contextualize it. Make a bullet point list of the specific parts you disagree with.
So, we can use this translation IMO, but:
- Need to bold sections we want to draw attention to (much like how the sentence in the OP is taken out to draw attention to it, what sentances hammer home the point).
- An english, bullet pointed summery of the article.
Maybe translate that as well.
Then as said here >>330919
Sending it out- 2chan and Eng-Speaking Jap Devs on Twitter et al.
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e2a345 No.330923
>>330922
Also this for when you talk to them. But we need to do the above first IMO.
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e2a345 No.330925
Translators
Using this PDF:
>>330907
Please remove all bolding.
Add the URL near the top of the text.
Add bolding back in for sentences that are of importance (ask if you're not sure).
Maybe shrink the text size down a bit. Not sure.
Whether you recreate this as PDF or image or whatever is fine.
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e2a345 No.330926
>>330925
One last thing
Also provide a bullet point summery at the bottom or top? not sure whats better in both english and Japanese.
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5836b1 No.330978
The CAPTCHA should show up and allow people to post in this thread now, please resume.
Posting the following on behalf of an anon who couldn't post:
>>330907
>>330919
>>330922
>>330925
>>330926
The Above Still Needs To Be Done!
Also, new material we could use:
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/885107072429203456
> Last year, Japanese Anon made a list of games that were altered or criticized due to foreign SJWs.
http://eigo-net-slang-jiten.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/sjw.html?m=1
1. What does this post actually say? (does it explain what an SJW is? Is it just a list of censored games? Does it explain that SJW are a minority that do not represent Western Gaming audiences?)
2. If sent to Japanese devs/2Chan, what message do we send it with? (ideally; anything not explained by the post itself)
3. Send it to Japanese Devs on Twitter + 2Chan. (as a follow up or "entree" before sending the Treehouse article?)
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0abd7d No.330984
>>330925
>>330926
I am an honest signal.
Just saw the request from the current bread. Let me help out.
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f6689f No.330985
Okay, so I'm posting the current draft of the PDF and image list. I'm not sure if the bolded statements are the most important so feel free to send corrections.
I also included a summary box on the first page. Again, this is based on my own understanding of the article.
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919f14 No.330986
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
This YouTuber may be a good candidate for bridging the cultural divide that separates us from our kin in Japan. If we can get her up-to-speed on what's going on, she could articulate the message to her decently-sized audience. She's also a cute, which is a nice bonus.
God, it's been almost three years and I'm still fucking here. The "you're here forever" bit was true.
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496d07 No.330998
>>330985
YES!!!!!
YOU SAINTLY FUCKER!!
I'd translate the "basically" box if possible, and include the original article URL under the title.
But other than that, it could arguably be Good to Go assuming you post it with the article and summerize extremely well in clear English.
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496d07 No.330999
>>330985
>>330998
Feedback from main:
> Ah. My Japanese vocabulary isn't up to speed so I can't say for sure how good it looks. I suppose making a translation of the summary is good for convenience but I think Reggie's quote of cultural relevance is going to be constantly brought up in future games should they decided to censor more or pull a Star Ocean 5.
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48c0b1 No.331005
>>330998
>>330999
I am an honest signal.
Thanks, are there any other things I need to revise? I want to collect as many errors as I can before I move onto the next revision.
Also two things:
>How's the summary? Is it comprehensive enough?
>I can't translate into moonrunes (Just finished Hira and moving onto Kata) so you'll need another anon.
And Cheers! I just read nipanon's sad circumstances in Japanese society. Least we can do is retain the purity of his hobby. For them and for us.
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496d07 No.331006
>>331005
For the summery:
- Translate "Basically" as "Summery".
- I'd change point 1 to "Nintendo of America is claiming it will censor content during production" etc.
Don't pin it down with what they are going to do, since they can deny. By saying they claim they want to do it, JapAnons can back it up with quotes and such. Then NoA/NoJ have to explain why they said it.
Other than that, it's perfect. The "trying to please everybody" is the better take then trying to explain an SJW IMO- though I'm happy to cecede on that point if "they're making it for SJW/Western SEALDs" hammers the point home more. Maybe even go the step farther and comparing it to Star Ocean 5?
But yeah, don't forget to add the URL (archive and original) into the top of the article and get a transator to help with that.
> I just read nipanon's sad circumstances in Japanese society. Least we can do is retain the purity of his hobby. For them and for us.
The fuck happened? Got a screencap?
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496d07 No.331008
>>331006
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/892457674717110272
https://medium.com/@mombot/manazashimura-social-justice-in-japan-fcfce2e95de7
> The people who publicly excoriated Vanquish are commonly referred to on the Japanese internet as the “Manazashimura”, a loosely knit group of radical feminists who congregate on social media to denounce “the male gaze”, or the way in which men view women as sexual objects.
Looks like we have another word for Japanese SJWs. Might be worth throwing that into the summery.
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817506 No.331018
>>331006
>The fuck happened?
Sorry anon, that was several breads ago, can't recall as much.
Well, here we go, attached.
I didn't include "Manazashimura" because I felt that that's beyond the scope of the article. I wanna keep it tight and focused.
Also, here's the summary in full just in case someone finds a translator. Not trusting Google with it:
Summary:
1. Nintendo of America is claiming it will censor content during production itself to fit “cultural standards” that they themselves define.
2. Thus, the game is being created reliant on ideology rather than the creator’s vision for the game.
3. The end result would be a game that is lower in quality because it tries to please everybody.
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496d07 No.331027
>>331018
Great, so,
All we need to do is get an accurate translation of the summery and edit it in
And then we can spread it?
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48c0b1 No.331030
>>331027
I believe so. I already asked someone from KIA who knows their Japanese to help. If that fails, I'll bring it up with Mombot herself.
From there, I don't know. Maybe if Nipanon drops by one of the GG breads over at /v/, I can ask him.
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496d07 No.331031
Mombot would like access to the original document of the current PDF. Something she can edit.
All I asked her was:
> We managed to make this so far. All that's missing is a translation of the summery, and we're working on that. Is the rest of the content/presentation OK?
Then showed her the document in PDF, Screencap and Pastebin form.
So I dunno if she's working on the Summery, or tweaking other elements.
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2a8932 No.331032
>>331031
Alright, then it's a matter of waiting. I'll check on this page again and adapt whatever comes out it.
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df250c No.331039
>>330858
>We know that this is the start of a slow-boil tactic to be applied over generations to Japan (possible combined with Olympics to cuck and de-homogenize them) until they make the same shit western AAA currently do.
>de-homogenize
I guess that you could say that the SJWs are homophobic
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496d07 No.331043
>>331031
Where is that document?
We need something easy to edit.
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496d07 No.331044
Sent a WordDoc to Mom instead.
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92f096 No.331077
>>331031
https://pastebin.com/THbxziYA
Can't upload the original file here, the site doesn't accept ODT files, it seems.
>>330899 and >>330907 guy here, haven't been able to access 8ch for the last ~2 months. Sorry for that.
Also,
>mombot
>pro-gg
>she
>Japanese
I'd like to believe so.
>>330986
The link's dead. Care to tell me what is it about?
>>331027
Let me translate this one;
Summary / 概要
>1. Nintendo of America is claiming it will censor content during production (process?) itself to fit "cultural standards" that they themselves define.
1. 米国任天堂はゲーム制作うちに自分勝手に定義した「文化基準」とおりゲームを検閲すると宣言した。
>2. Thus, the game is being created reliant on ideology rather than the creator's vision for the game.
２．こうして、制作中ゲームは製作者のビジョンより、他人の主義によって作られる。
>3. The end result would be a game that is lower in quality because it tries to pleasure everybody.
３．「皆の喜び」のための制作したゲームは製作者の理想なゲームに比べて低質ものだ。
The translation for sentence 3 was quite liberal, might need to have mombot or anyone capable enough to correct it too.
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92f096 No.331078
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919f14 No.331101
>>331077
>The link's dead. Care to tell me what is it about?
It was a white girl (I think living in Japan) who gave explanations of western memes like pepe and spread /pol/-tier stuff about the jews. Looks like her account got shoah'd.
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a1078d No.331105
>>331077
I am an honest signal.
Thanks for the translation, anon. I'm having it validated by mombot. Once done, I'll finish it up and announce it in the GG general over at /v/.
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171448 No.331131
I think we've waited long enough for any feedback.
If this checks out >>331077 maybe add the translated summery, then send it out?
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af1553 No.331133
>>331131
I wasn't able to get validation done. Do I go with it?
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427be1 No.331134
>>331131
>>331133
Scratch that, I'm a little iffy with the translation. It'd be really nice if we can get a validation with it. Know anyone who can do so?
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6b21de No.331149
PAYLOAD COMPLETE
An anon was kind enough to translate the summary over the /v/ GG general.
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6b21de No.331150
BONUS ROUND
I created Twitter friendly versions as well.
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6f4bcc No.331157
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8699e6 No.331159
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c6d84a No.331178
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2bee68 No.331179
>>331157
>>331178
>Getting raped by a text shitpost
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21f2d4 No.331184
>>331157
>soyman
>not kikkoman
you disgrace your family
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171448 No.331185
We are NOT linking or posting this OP to other boards
This goes for all GG OPs as well
Recently shills have been spamming this OP to other boards as a tactic to D&C. That, or some of you are being real fucking stupid.
If you're here because someone linked you to us- we didn't do it.
Report them on your board, and carry on as normal.
If you want to know about us, look into our regular /v/ threads, or this board.
We never organize efforts to "recruit" from other boards. Anons should come here because they want to.
That- and odds are you all know we're here or at least use /v/ anyway.
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171448 No.331188
>>331186
You're not referring to a specific post with those links- and even if you were, that does not change what was stated:
> Recently shills have been spamming this OP to other boards as a tactic to D&C. That, or some of you are being real fucking stupid.
> We never organize efforts to "recruit" from other boards.
(1) does not equal all, nor approval.
We will not apologize for morons not affiliated with us.
And we will not go off topic:
>>331150
>>331149
1. Find Japanese people on social media who speak english. Mainly those linked with games. Especially those who worked/are working/will work with Nintendo.
2. Reference games ruined in Japan by US style changes- Star Ocean 5, Street Fighter 5, etc.
3. Research who you're talking to. Kamiya will block you and already stands his ground. Odds are, he'll be OK. Likewise, the guys working at Game Freak & Pokemon won't jump ship because of this.
4. Don't talk to them about GamerGate unless asked. You can explain (briefly) why there is a disconnect between what Western Journos and Western Gamers want. Or that the hobby is being politicized by outside forces. Give them small, manageable bits of info that are relevant to their interests. GG is a behemoth that is hard to understand the scope of. Maybe drop them a line to this: http://roninworksjapan.tumblr.com/ but it is not necessary, nor encouraged.
Other than that, follow the first pic related- and treat it like a DisNod. Do it every day
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b0faac No.331214
>>331189
>>331186
>>331199
>>331205
Enough.
I'm a fat hungry viking and I haven't had any Hot Pockets in ages. I don't know who was posting this OP on your favorite board or why your man-panties are in such a twist about it, but continued dramafagging about it will not be tolerated.
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29418d No.331215
>>331214
>Acidman faces Hubris
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171448 No.331216
>>331214
Thanks man. Gonna delete my older posts so it's just the info one.
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171448 No.331223
NIS America Apologies for Localization Job on Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, Fix Coming in November 2017
https://archive.is/japtm
I'd recommend checking out the article without the archive to see the comments- a few hit the nail on the head.
- Go over the localizers head to complain about bad localization- since Japan is clueless what the west likes/wants.
- Emails work!! With enough autists at once doing it- progress is made (Kadokawa is having talks with Tanoshi of Animal Friends for example thanks to outcry over his firing).
Therefore- along with OP Timber- should future anti-localization/pro-translation OPs be DisNod based?
> I am a loyal customer, and am disappointed in the quality of the product due to what the localizer did.
Also, Acid, I deleted the posts before I read the edited OP. >>331188 Please don't report me to your Fed friends.
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171448 No.331225
>>331223
Reposting from Previous bread:
> The NIS apology/firings is fantastic news and may be listed as yet another GG Victory for 2017… but don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
> Anti-GG are going to be furious. They're already on social media insisting the old localizers were GOOD BOYS WHO DIDN DU NUFFIN WENT TO CHURCH ERRYDAY.
> Send emails of support and gratitude for the decision. POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS RARE AS GOLD AND ALWAYS SHARED/REMEMBERED. Retail & waiting staff know this.
> The GildaFag did something exceptional, despite the mockery. Please, please, please do not sit like Hillary did in her hotel room and DO NOTHING, smugly comfortable in assumed victory. Don't let NIS pull an Intel, by performing an action that's good for GG, only to fully reverse it because SJW's complained en masse.
> Send an email. Just one. A short one. 15 godamn seconds of your life. Just say you appreciate what they're doing, it was the right thing to do, and you look forward to their new, better version. It's anonymous, satisfying, is the literal opposite of doing NOTHING, smugly guffawing that nothing could possibly take this vicroty away. NOTHING!
> One thank you email. Please. Just one. CLICK SEND.
Now here's the issue.
Some anons claim nihon@falcom.co.jp doesn't work. We need anons to confirm support@falcom.co.jp works.
So I'd say send them to wherever you sent your complaint last time- or open a support ticket on their website. Unfortunately- I can't make sense of their support tickets either.
Perhaps thanks via social media to both the company and the people in it?
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171448 No.331226
>>331225
> [email protected]
T-Thanks HQ.
The two email address that don't work are:
https://hastebin.com/ivapewubiy.scala
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98b449 No.331267
Remember some Japanese people can be as bad as SJWs.
Pic related- but verify. If true, the Japs working against that dev could be the sort of people we'd want to work with on other matters.
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98b449 No.331269
Minor note, apparently Nintendo told Wall Street Journal they want to bring more violent/risque content to Switch.
https://twitter.com/ObsidianWasp/status/919257221141286913
So I guess either WSJ is lying (twisting words) or Nintendo is (covering for censorship).
Need source on what WSJ claims.
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1a2cd0 No.332091
>>331269
>Minor note, apparently Nintendo told Wall Street Journal they want to bring more violent/risque content to Switch.
Perhaps they just mean that they WANT more violent/risque content on the platform, not that they're MAKING more violent/risque games. Look at the shit they've been putting out lately, shit like DOOM or Payday 2, or hell, even xenoblade and Gal Gun.
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d9b6e5 No.332354
>>331269
Then maybe they should not have censored xenoblade 2 dialog, So no i don't believe them.
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14584c No.332363
>>330858
this was insightful.
also, friendly reminder that Japanese media is the last bastion holding out against the SJW horde. even so, they've made initial attempts at subversion, as seen in the OP and the crunchyroll debacle. inoculating Japan against the Social Justice virus is a worthy endeavor.
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