b0f374 No.330729 [View All]
The Last Night has been hit hard by SJW clique shilling, as well as aGG and other cancer that is killing the industry. For whatever reason, the publisher has thrown the dev under the bus and the dev has been forced to apologize.
WE DO NOT STAND FOR THIS
We said three years ago that this is the kind of bullshit we don't want around anymore. Creators should not be forced to censor their games, or have their hard work destroyed before it has a chance to succeed because of ideological gatekeepers. Regardless of the dev's and publisher's reactions, we all can agree, that THIS is what we stand against. This pressure, this bullying, this kind of inquisition. They wanted to kill The Last Night,
NOW THEY FACE THE FIRST DAWN
For any operation to be successful, we need goals, objectives. We seem to agree on the following overall,
>We must push back against the central clique members who start these inquisitions
>We must push back against the media who enable them to continue said inquisitions
>We must support devs who are willing to fight through the witch hunts, and aid the ones who cannot
>In the end, we want vidya to be a place where creators are free to make the games they want to
But how do we accomplish this? Simply put, we divide things into the short-term and the long-term.
SHORT-TERM
First, we gather all of the evidence we can about The Last Night's media blitz. We need to make it clear, the only reason this game is under any pressure is because the creators didn't toe the line of an ideological clique that they never asked to be involved with. This means gathering info on every outlet and author, every blue check that retweeted the articles/smearjob, and uncover other things, like the person behind the @Justgamesonly22 account, or anyone who said dumb shit like the Ubisoft dev.
Secondly, we take all of this evidence, compress it all into easy-to-spread formats, and shove it in the faces of those who sought to kill The Last Night. Twitter, comment sections, wherever you can.
Third, we see what can be done for the morale of The Last Night team, maybe we can convince them to stay the course. Also, we need to find out if they did make any changes to their game after the pushback. One anon noticed the change to the game's Steam description. We need to somehow confirm that actual tangible changes are going to happen to this game.
LONG-TERM
We need to do everything in our power to make sure a situation like this does not happen again. This means vocally supporting good devs, outlets AND helping other people stay informed.
First and foremost, a full scale redux of OP Rebuild is in order. A vague, out-of-date list of ethical outlets isn't good enough. Same goes for talking about devs. We need to have a seriously dedicated list of outlets for anons to follow, and for those who participate in social media to follow and spread these outlets, so long as they remain ethical and informative. This doesn't just mean push the easy ones, like TechRaptor and Niche, it means seriously helping out the smaller/struggling ones by spreading their good articles, turning off Adblock and letting them know you're here supporting them. This goes for devs as well. When P5 suffered pushback from the localization crowd of bullshit, we messaged Atlus, showed them we cared enough to buy the game, and told them we appreciated the effort that went into bringing the game over to NA. We should do the same for devs who are smaller, under fire, or just plain good devs who care for their consumers: Us gamers.
Secondly, we need to work on informing gamers who don't spend their time on here. Let them know about companies, and dev teams, and systems that support consumer-friendly practices. Let them know what they need to do to protect their own interests AND recognize when pushbacks like the one for The Last Night are happening, so that they can be there to oppose anti-gamer/anti-consumer bullshit, wherever it comes from. This means infographics, small tidbits of easily spreadable info, and a willingness to help out the gaming community as a whole. Aspiring graphic designers in the thread will want to get on this, as well as our /tech/heads and savvy consumers who are willing to explain this at a very clear and basic level.
Third, we need to keep being gamers. Keep playing vidya, keep supporting good vidya and talking about it. Make art of your favourite characters, if you're talented enough. Support an artist if you aren't artistically inclined. At the end of the day, we're gamers, and we care about this industry in all aspects. We need to show it.
The Last Night has been sunk by aGG and the clique. They blamed a dev for invoking our name and being critical of their once-idol, as well as their political ideology.
We're getting back in the game. They called our name, we must answer
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830797 No.330770
> https://twitter.com/WilliamUsherGB/status/874342640455741441
> @timsoret is being attacked by SJWs for disagreeing with Anita Sarkeesian three years ago
Sarkeesian is BDS. To people who care, that's a reputation killer. You could compare her to Linda Sarsour, a fake feminist who gets by on the media calling her a feminist without taking a critical look at what she is actually saying.
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c75a6e No.330776
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/milkshake-duck
Daily reminder
SJW's can't meme to save their life
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b0f374 No.330779
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5ac884 No.330787
>>330739
We never left, anon!
Also, drawfag and designfag here, at your service.
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b0f374 No.330789
>>330787
Some kind of central image for the OP would be a good contribution. It doesn't have to be overtly complex, the one someone did for OP Around the World was a good example.
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0e11b2 No.330791
>>330789
Got it! Now, give me a few to whip up something awesome.
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c75a6e No.330795
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>330779
Interesting keep digging
Man I've noticed people are angry after e3
We haven't been this angry since Jim made those quinnspiracy videos back in 2014
Hard to believe so much time has passed
Well I guess the old fags of gg we're right
We're here forever
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da6ecc No.330797
>>330787
>>330789
We need a Booru-like site where we can dump pics then add tags.
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c75a6e No.330798
>>330787
Alright can you make art about GamerGate's revival?
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3b93cf No.330803
>these haven't been posted yet
Step it up senpais
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3b93cf No.330806
encouragement for future devs and for Tim Soret
https://archive.is/GokbP
poll doesn't get saved in the archives for some reason.
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c75a6e No.330807
>>330806
>Not hoping for any result. IT'S A QUESTION.
She keeps repeating that
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3b93cf No.330808
Some ideas for further courses of action
Any notable twitterfags, or people who have lines to notable twitter and youtube fags should get in contact with them
Sargon and Milo are fucking huge now and should not be discounted if we can get their help
Another idea from fucking Val of all people, basically use their own fucked up standards to attack their shit. It reminds me of what Trump did to Colbert.
https://archive.fo/FJLSf
Dailydot added to earlier image of outlets attacking Soret*
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759983 No.330809
>>330797
There's a Vivian booru: vivi.booru.org
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b0f374 No.330812
Posting these from the /v/ thread, some potential outlines for the new Rebuild OC.
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b0f374 No.330815
If any anons want to jump in on creating some new OC, be it for uncovering the truth of the media blitz, something to push good outlets, or just plain new OC for GG overall, look here:
>>330814
>>330814
>>330814
>>330814
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b7356a No.330819
>>330789
INCOMING
>>330798
I'll see if I have time for that. I'm working on something for the 3rd anniversary.
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92e234 No.330825
Someone in the /v/ thread requested that we post some gaming youtube channels to veto here, as well as some sites.
Mine are The Know
https://www.youtube.com/user/know
But their parent company being Rooster Teeth seems to present some issues.
And Gematsu:
http://gematsu.com/
https://twitter.com/gematsucom
Gematsu is a japanese magazine/site, and we maybe should support their western branch, but also dig on who is behind it (unlikely to be japanese staffed).
I'll dig more options.
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92e234 No.330826
>>330825
Staff at Gematsu:
Italian, editor and seems to 'run the site' and translate japanese news:
https://twitter.com/salromano
Zero, community moderator.
https://twitter.com/KazumaLynx
That is the whole staff. But their converge of E3 seems pretty detailed and complete, mostly translated from the japanese site I assume.
Nothing suspicious found searching through their twitter feeds. They do follow some game journos from sites like WSJ and Destructoid, but none of the known trouble people.
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92e234 No.330827
Forgive the non-intentional namefagging, forgot to uncheck the box.
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e07a6b No.330829
>>330825
I saw people talking about Larry bundy jr on the GG thread. Yeah, he's kinda click-baity and had that fag hbomberguy doing voice work for him but he did some nice videos about GG so I think he should be added to that "recommended" list
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b0f374 No.330831
Posting both of these here
Which design do we like better? Again, bear in mind, this is mostly for our own purposes, it's not the most spreadable piece of OC.
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ac34f2 No.330835
>>330754
This is an utterly stupid idea and completely counterproductive. Refusing to buy the game because of the apology is a message to companies that hiring Gamergators is bad for them, because then they will be stuck between rocks and hard places. We want to be the understanding ones.
>"We will buy your game, to support Tim's past allegiance, but we're not happy about the apology."
This is an incentive to companies to hire from our side of the divide. If you always use the stick, you will only be feared. We want to be courted.
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ac34f2 No.330836
>>330754
>We can't stop people buying, but we can make it fucking clear who didn't buy from them when sales are below expectation.
And this? This is dumb too. You'd be making a fuss, yes, but they won't be able to tell who is driving the fall in their sales, pro or anti. All they will know is that the very mention of Gamergate dropped them into this mess!
We want to incentivise Gamergate support, not force people away from the subject.
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ac34f2 No.330837
>>330831
The background words make it hard to read.
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600c1b No.330838
>>330729
nigger
>still being in gamergate
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97720d No.330839
>>330763
Hate the publisher, not the dev. Principles are all very nice, but you can't fucking eat them.
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2aed5b No.330840
Why in the ever loving fuck would Raw Fury think it's a good idea to fuck over the dev to please SJWs? Do they think said SJWs will suddenly buy their games? Gamers don't give a flying fuck about SJW complaints and would still buy the game while SJWs wouldn't buy the game either way.
I say that's the response which needs to be given. If a publisher wants to fuck over developers to please SJWs, they can keep SJWs as a customer base and lose gamers, see how much money they make then. Maybe if a few of those dumbasses go bankrupt it'll drive it into their heads to not pull this shit.
SJWs are not your audience. They never were, they aren't and they never will be. They do not provide you with income. Stop trying to please them.
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8f9934 No.330841
Thanks for posting the OP. Agreed that we need to push back against this hard, in particular by showing Zoe's clique for what it is. I created a video to help with this, providing a lot of info and also humanizing GamerGate. I hope this is useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fqrg0dmTU
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ac0cf3 No.330842
Hey guys, KiA-mod here. Please don't freak out, I'll have to kill the link to this thread, since it includes what reddit admins consider dox (yeah, they have a pretty broad definition for that, like live links to twitter and FB). When you have something I can put on KiA (like contact forms for complaints etc) please shoot us a modmail or make a new thread. Please make sure it's scrubbed of "dox" (again, talk to us) and we will likely sticky it.
Also, hey, nice to be here again. Tell Acid I said hi!
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ac34f2 No.330843
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ac34f2 No.330844
I don't really see what the point of the first quarter of First Dawn is, the gathering of evidence or whatever. How will it help? Do you think that we'll find that they planned this in advance? Unless we do, dirt we find on the complainers isn't really going to help with the claims 'Gamergate is bad, Soret supported Gamergate, fuck Soret.'
I do like the second half. Bypass the SJWs entirely, focus on sending positive vibes to Raw Fury and Soret. Make them feel that we have their back and that we'll buy the game, but we'll be especially enthused if it sticks to Soret's original vision. Show understanding to RF, frame the SJWs as bullies, as the aggressors evilly attacking them.
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ac0cf3 No.330845
>>330844
Yeah, I agree with making this a positive OP, encouraging Tim and his team to make the best game possible (and never self-censor). This might entail acknowledging that he disavowed gamergate (though, reviewing his tweets, he was sympathetic to us, not quite a pro-gger) and being cool with that. He can always change his mind on whatever, but GamerGate won't change its mind on supporting good developers that want to make good games!
I am still sympathetic to Tim's position - he was getting great coverage, right there at E3, until some non-dev asshole had to make it all about her and creating a scandal from NOTHING! Of course that guy was scared for his game and the fucking team. Adding to that pressure from his publishers, and it's understandable he folded under pressure. Not wise, but understandable.
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ac34f2 No.330846
>>330845
Mhm. I twittered at Soret's apology, telling him that I didn't approve of it, but that I understood and wished him luck. I got a like from him.
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ac34f2 No.330847
It's interesting looking at Soret's Likes on Twitter. I think he's still with us.
https://twitter.com/timsoret/likes
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b0f374 No.330848
>>330837
that's a watermark, it's only gonna be there to protect works in progress
>>330840
>>330836
>>330835
Don't think anyone is onboard with Raw Fury. Even the creator of it admitted he was hotheaded when he made it. I feel like getting rid of that post, but it's not really a good look to just delete things for the reason of 'I think this is dumb'
I'll put some sort of warning on the post, I guess.
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967a2d No.330849
>>330848
>I feel like getting rid of that post, but it's not really a good look to just delete things for the reason of 'I think this is dumb'
>I'll put some sort of warning on the post, I guess.
No, leave it the way it is. Hotheadedness is never a justified excuse for any action. The publisher had a choice. And, they chose to make a stupid post, that destroyed the developer and threw him under the bus, and now they have to continue on with their business remembering that happened, and how it destroyed people's perception of their company.
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b0f374 No.330850
>>330849
Oh shit. When I said "he was hotheaded when he made it" I meant the anon who first came up with that OP. He admitted in the /v/ thread to being hotheaded when he made it, and said it was a dumb idea once he calmed down.
That's why I was considering getting rid of that post, and now considering putting up a disclaimer.
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177280 No.330851
>>330850
Oh, my mistake. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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a32fb6 No.330852
the trailer looks nice
some real effort was put in it and the devs obviously have enough talent to back it up
publishers ar PR bitches though they will force anyone to apologyse for anything
as for Journos and the usual suspects
they've lost all credivility by now, best course of action is to mock their irrelevance with the fact that they had to wait until this became the hot topic at E3 to throw a bitchfit and try to raid it's coat tail back into the spotligt
Nobody cares what SJWs say anymore and getting flack by them usually mean whoever does turns up a better proffit than if they hadn't
it looks finished enough already unlike other "diversity" focused AAA trailers for games not even 1 day into development i doubt there will be any changes to the finished product at this point, anything the devs say will just be lip service to please the marketing suits of their publishers
If it's good it'll sell, regardles of what snowflakes say
On the other hand games aimed at snowflakes flop like ass mostly because snowflake devs have no talent and put no effort
still in the long term we can use this to kill shoehorned "diversity in the same way it's being killed in Marvel comics wich are still shit nonetheless by saying that "diversity" does not sell wich is true, though not because of "diversity" in itself but because of the talentles (((people))) who often push that crap
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81e0bb No.330853
>>330848
Mind you, I didn't say "Don't buy The Last Night" merely "Fuck Raw Fury".
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b0f374 No.330884
I know this OP is cooling off for the more present localization threat, but I believe I've made the last adjustments to that OC I was working on. Might as well post it since it's done. Wouldn't want hard work going to waste.
I've watermarked it just in case there's any more last minute critiques/mistakes.
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b0f374 No.330885
>>330884
It's ready, with options for paragraph at the top or without.
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ac0cf3 No.330897
>>330885
KiA standing by. Remember - one of you with a reddit account should modmail us once you made a thread (or just make Acid do it).
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3c5ba0 No.330905
i came here to say
fuck tim soret
if he wants to act cucked
then he can get fucked
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275c0b No.330932
kia not being a massive pack of burches for once
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e4cd79 No.330950
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736845 No.330971
Frankly, I'm disappointed with how few people got behind this. Ran out of steam quick without the manpower and was quickly overshadowed. It's a shame, because I really thought we could make a statement with this, but it ended up just rotting here. I'll push for it to be taken out of the OP on /v/ in the next bread or so.
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54bb40 No.330972
>>330971
It died in the water the moment Tim Soret backed off. It can't be helped. That's how it is these days, "people" getting into game dev have no guts or balls.
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736845 No.330976
>>330972
I just don't know why anons suddenly started pretending the industry wasn't shit, and a dev could just come out and make whatever they want without any backlash. It was ignorant of reality, devs still need our support, and anons were unwilling to give it because…. well, honestly I don't have an explanation. As much purchase as we have gained in this fight, there can't be anons out there who seriously believe the industry is suddenly "safe," can there be? Are some anons that deluded?
I hope to hell this isn't the leaking of complacency into GG. I hope it's just cancer faggots or something who just happened to push things in the wrong direction (and succeeded at something for once). Cancer faggots we can handle, we can pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and go, "Okay that was dumb, let's never do it again." Complacency is plauge. Slow spreading and deadly. Think of it as demoralization, if it helps you out any.
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