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dfeb6e No.327982 [Last50 Posts]
Thread created for the (reasonable) overlap of video game enthusiasts who also commonly engage in cardflopping and dicechucking, and "our usual suspects" infecting a parallel industry
>Chris Kluwe chosen as brand representative at PAX
>getting a Hasbro representative on plebbit to denounce a fan channel that's been making videos promoting product for free for four years
the guy could use support and awareness(positive attention) and /tg/ nerds could use our experience in dealing with the narrative spin as they get bullied in the coming months
MTGHeadQuarters
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIIeZClsD9f0KlRsT1CBpDw
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dfeb6e No.327983
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dfeb6e No.327986
the complaints levied against this guy are compiled in two imgur ablums posted to the plebbit thread by plebbitor Zahninator. Name in the imgur albums is usedrobots however.
https://imgur.com/a/Ln2Qy
http://imgur.com/a/mgYMe
somebody has a hate-boner for anyone not aboard the victimhood train and speaking in relaxed ways on twitter about feminism and trannies
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dfeb6e No.327987
tangential reminder that the Literally Whos have been attempting to shift from video games to tabletop for awhile. You're not allowed to have anything un-infiltrated
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dfeb6e No.327988
FWIW fa/tg/uys so far has never tried to stab GG in the back, and their fandom itself due to the structure of PnP is harder to infect. (As in, if some socjus retard demands to be let in someone's home to play, that socjus retard is now bordering on tresspassing.)
However the usual socjus scammers and grifters are definitely trying to burrow into tabletop and traditional games companies and studios. IIRC Megaphone chan is burrowed or trying to burrow deeper into FantasyFlight games.
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dfeb6e No.327989
>>327988
>As in, if some socjus retard demands to be let in someone's home to play, that socjus retard is now bordering on tresspassing.
they don't. They demand the game be relocated to a place where they have power, usually because they have some charisma in the first place(instead of actual game knowledge or a meaningful design skill)
I've sadly seen this happen a few times IRL
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dfeb6e No.327991
>>327989
>they don't. They demand the game be relocated to a place where they have power, usually because they have some charisma in the first place(instead of actual game knowledge or a meaningful design skill)
>I've sadly seen this happen a few times IRL
Christ on a fucking stick it might be worse than I thought. Can you give me more detail, while I'm not unfamiliar with PnP I'll say upfront I have not really kept up for a long while. What kind of place do the fucking parasites demand a game to be relocated to, one of their infected cons or 'safe spaces'?
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dfeb6e No.327992
>>327988
>>327989
>>327991
The issue is their controlling the venues (FLGSes) that /tg/ type games are played in. The moment they start their infection of a shop space the clock starts to tick towards eventual doom.
Not sure what the situation is at the FF Event Center in Rosedale, but if it's turning into a SJW haven then their days are numbered.
God help Minnesota (and gaming) if they go after The Source or any of the Dreamers locations.
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dfeb6e No.327999
What can we do to help stop those SJW pigs?
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dfeb6e No.328000
Jesus fucking christ. Hambly is an asshole, and his channel is shit, but he's right. The spread of this disease has got to stop.
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dfeb6e No.328003
>>327982
i dont get it
give me the short version
who is mad with him and why?
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dfeb6e No.328015
Boogie posted a video regarding this, and remained super fucking neutral, as is typical of Boogie.
Then Deriums comes along with some stupid fucking "I knew GG was going to come to Magic and we should have been prepared" comment. Prepared for what? People caring about a game not being tainted by SJW cancer? Fuck those clowns. Fuck Deriums with a stick of lit dynamite.
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dfeb6e No.328017
>>328003
This. Please give a TLDR. I don't into tabletop and after 5 minutes of that video, have no clue what he's talking about.
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dfeb6e No.328020
Magic's been tainted/lost for ages.
A while back, they did an expansion set that was done by SJW artists who decided to make it 100% all minorities art-wise because the artists were anti-white assholes who wanted to make Magic more or less minority friendly.
A Magic exec found out their plans, ordered that they change the artwork to add some white people in the card art.
Anti-white SJW artists revised one (and only one) card, that didn't have a human character on it, and all they changed was add a dead white guy in the art.
The executive who opposed them was then quietly fired from the company because the artists threatened to quit in mass and make a huge stink about WotC being racist and anti-people of color even though they the artists were the ones who were acting like racists and bigots
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dfeb6e No.328022
Oldfag /tg/ here. The PC crowd's coopted the game for a while now. For instance there was the drama all over this single card art (that isn't even a tournament staple).
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dfeb6e No.328028
While I sympathize with you fa/tg/uys (I played Magic back in collage and still have my cards), I feel that WoC is a lost cause, and this is a symptom of the final phase of the SJW sub-culture infiltration/co-option/destruction cycle.
These fuckers will just find more and more ways to sub-divide groups along different lines until everything is about internal politics and virtue signalling than playing/making/running a fucking card game; like they ALWAYS do.
Furthermore, six months ago, even up to a month ago; I would have said: "outside the scope of GG"
However…
Gawker is dead.
Kotaku is in limbo.
Polygon, the Mary Sue, and even the Guardian are sinking.
Every gaming journalism site has an ethics policy and disclosure has become standard industry practice, and we have GG-friendly alternate, ethical, gaming sites which are small but growing.
The LWs are fucking off to parasitize other places (>>327987)
Shit's not perfect, but if you expect perfection in life you'll live dissapointed…
GamerGate Won
It would've been fine to wind things down and become a watchdog and kind of move on…
…until some dumb faggot from cuckchan yelled a nasty meme at some poor sick old lady and as a result…
THE ENTIRE LEFT HAS DECLARED WAR ON THE INTERNET, THOUGHT-CRIMES, FUN, AND GAMERGATE
Change. Of. Plans.
Gamergate is back to literally raping hundreds of womyn every day, while hit-pieces are being put out by the hour about the worse-than-ISIS-terrorists-of-GG, shills are out in force in the # and defeatism shilling here possibly paid by Shillery's PAC, GGR continue their own brand of Acid-sempai please notice me semen-swilling shilling here, and everything else higglty piggilty on social-media. Fun times.
Now what?
You guys still have some fight in you?
I do.
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dfeb6e No.328031
>>328028
>Change. Of. Plans.
The whole gameboard has changed, even if the players are still the same. Before it was Angryt Birds style "Attack Attack Attack" obligatory FUCK OFF IA though varios Ops and shitposting all over social media, now it's Tower Defense time. We just need to hold out until Trump gets elected as I seriously cannot see how the DNC will legit win this, with the combination of #DNCleaks and Clinton literally falling apart, then the Night of Long Knives will begin.
Why I'm confident on a Trump victory? Ask around in /pinoy/ about the recent Philippine elections. The new president is essentially a smaller-scale Asian version of Donald Trump.
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dfeb6e No.328033
>>328031
>>328028
MTG Fag here, sent an email in to WotC asking if somebody like me who had different politics would still be welcome to continue playing MTG in the future.
I'm genuinely scared of what's gonna happen to this game that i've invested so much time and money into. I stood by GG as pricks shat all over gamers and, despite losing friends in the process, made a stand against gaming journalists who were talking shit.
This one hits a little too close to home for me. It's my childhood hobby. My goal is to one day to go the Pro Tour and meet all the big names, but after what happened to Zach Jesse and MTGHQ, i can't help but feel like some cunt is gonna try and pull all of that out from under my feet because i think the wrong way.
I wouldn't inherently call myself a bad person… I just like shitposting on the internet with my friends.
Is a Trump presidency really gonna save us from this madness? Or are we gonna need a second coming of GG for tabletop?
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dfeb6e No.328036
>>328022
hilarious. Kill Lilianna, she's an asshole sellout necromancer slave to 4 demons.
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dfeb6e No.328037
>>328020
>A while back, they did an expansion set that was done by SJW artists who decided to make it 100% all minorities art-wise because the artists were anti-white assholes who wanted to make Magic more or less minority friendly.
Which set was this? Because I don't remember any outrage over Mirage block when I was a kid in high school. Planeswalkers in Not-Africa, no big deal. Wasn't there a follow-up set after Mirage block a few years later, Time-something?
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dfeb6e No.328043
>>327992
>The issue is their controlling the venues (FLGSes) that /tg/ type games are played in. The moment they start their infection of a shop space the clock starts to tick towards eventual doom.
>Not sure what the situation is at the FF Event Center in Rosedale, but if it's turning into a SJW haven then their days are numbered.
>God help Minnesota (and gaming) if they go after The Source or any of the Dreamers locations.
AFAIK fa/tg/uys, /co/, and vidya did share a common link and heritage and in many ways still do. The remaining few based /co/lleagues aside, I count western comics to be pozzed and lost at the moment, comicucks fans who fell for the koolaid are now revisionist shills. /tg/ seems to share similar retail space in some of the comic and PnP and magic cards shops, as well as some book stores and the cancerous hipsters comics and board games nu cafe's .
As I've already mentioned, /tg/ in general IIRC has been a worthy ally so far. The parasites who tried to kill vidya is doing their same social justice scam song and dance targeting /tg/.
The names that >>327987 mentioned is the answer to anyone who bleats 'but what does this have to do with vidya?!'.
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dfeb6e No.328044
>>328043
Yeah.
The biggest risk is the fact that /tg/ thinks they're safe, outside of their dev's being fully subverted and all that's left is for the harpies to start using those games as a vector to infect FLGSes.
/tg/ won't see it until they start getting banned for growing a beard or letting their legs be open enough to not crush their balls.
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dfeb6e No.328046
>>328020
The fuck are you talking about? WotC, while it is 100% in the shitter, has been using many of the same artists for years now. Mirage and Visions had an Africa-like setting, but that is literally the only thing I think you could be thinking of, and that was 20 years ago.
regarding MTG, I think the "WAAAAHHH WE NEED MUH DIVERSITEES" is fucking retarded, because this a game with literally any god damned race of whatever you can think of. Four separate races of blue people. Fish people. Squid people. White people. REALLY white people. Black people. Entire god damned sets based around Asian culture.
It all goes to show how fucking stupid SJW's are.
As another side note, fuck TCGPlayer for throwing Ali Aintrazi under the bus for making one off color remark to a "woman" who looks like Barney fucking Rubble. If you haven't already, find their statement regarding Ali Aintrazi, and blow their shit up about how you're taking your business elsewhere.
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dfeb6e No.328048
Well shit, and I was going to head down and buy the 5e D&D Player's Handbook because the Penny Arcade games had managed to get me interested enough to want to join in.
But I guess it looks like Wizards don't want money from people like me, so good luck to them with alienating their core demographic. Let's see how that plays out.
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dfeb6e No.328049
>>328048
Better you don't play 5E in general.
Look at games made by un-cucked developers.
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dfeb6e No.328050
Ok, I have a general idea what's going on here and even though I didn't play the game for for over 15 years I would like to help him. What I still don't understand is, what he wants us to do when he asks for ppl to write to Hasbro and WOTC. What am I going to tell them? Don't be so PC?
After all their main consumers are children and he is kind of an edgelord so I understand when they don't want to be associated with his comments.
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dfeb6e No.328054
OP, this is not new and has been going on since the early 2000s, see the change in direction of D&D game design and setting writing.
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dfeb6e No.328058
>>328048
5e itself is fine, the only remotely SJW thing in the entirety of my Player's Handbook PDF is an unnecessary vocalization to the house-rule of "be whatever you want to be" which is already fairly grey on its stance given that it backs shit up if you want to play as an elven hermaphrodite or whatever, and there's no guarantee within the passage you'll be accepted because you identify as stardust.
Give credit where it's due, people.
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dfeb6e No.328061
>>328058
If that is 5e, everything after the first sentence in that pic is fucking cancerous. If there is any doubt, the second paragraph confirms it for me. It reads like a problem glasses PR asshole trying to do the moralizing s/h/it scam has infected the writing team and it crossed the line from talking about -your character- to the player themselves.
>But the last sentence clarifies that it's still just talking about your player character tho
Which is a bullshit fig leaf. The socjus scam and racketeering grift should be familiar by now.
EVERYTHING IS SEXIST AND RACIST AND X-PHOBIC!
Especially you mysogynerds, you are all sexist racists -phobic! Thankfully we are now here to correct that inequality! If you gib us money and give us cushy jobs, your businesses and studios will be CONpliant with the current year standard of morality and history!
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dfeb6e No.328062
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dfeb6e No.328065
>>328058
It's not in the Players' Guide, numbnuts. Check the Dungeon Masters Guide for all the SJW training you'll ever need, from how to railroad campaigns to forcing diversity on players.
>>328062
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dfeb6e No.328066
>>328033
>Is a Trump presidency really gonna save us from this madness?
Hopefully, but I have a feeling that Trump getting elected will make SJWs furious and become even more dedicated to doing their bullshit, managing to make things worst. And seeing how Trump wants to bring jobs back to America and SJWs are basically America's equivalent of Chinese sweatshops (one of the reasons they get hired in the comic industry for example is they work for peanuts and don't care about things like Creator's Bill of Rights), so Trump getting elected might cause there to be even more SJWs in the workforce. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
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dfeb6e No.328068
>>328043
Fucking Burch & Wesley are already in MTG
I told you its clique as fuck already
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dfeb6e No.328071
>>328066
That is very possible, but there is always a tipping point. Whether that will happen through more customers saying enough and voting with their wallet, or something in the culture changes. It's possible that the reason socjus is doubling down so hard is because they know a tipping point might be close.
>>328044
>The biggest risk is the fact that /tg/ thinks they're safe, outside of their dev's being fully subverted and all that's left is for the harpies to start using those games as a vector to infect FLGSes.
>/tg/ won't see it until they start getting banned for growing a beard or letting their legs be open enough to not crush their balls.
Agreed, /tg/ need to only look at what happened to n.american comics for the "what's the worst that can happen?" scenario. Pozzed as fuck, too many of their fans got cucked and converted to defeatist drones, the bigger studios became an IP farm and bad tumblr tier art asylum, and smaller studios or 'indies' are nothing more than bluehair problem glasses clique controlled fake alternative, the same way walking sims are in vidya.
So what can be done to fight the cancer, and does fa/tg/uys need an assist from GG.
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dfeb6e No.328072
>>328048
Then just get the PDFs for free and see if you like it without paying them. Tabletop games operate under a completely different set of rules and if you're willing to just deal with a PDF (or hell, print out a PDF) then you can play the game, enjoy it, and not support the developers at all If you end up changing your mind then you can turn around and buy something, that's generally how the industry works. Plus tabletop games are not video games, you don't have to take everything from the book verbatim and are free to pick and choose, change or remove, to suit your style of play so it's VERY common practice to just ignore a developer's political posturing or weird fetish shit.
Not even sure how many actual fa/tg/uys are here but don't take advice on tabletop games from people who don't play them.
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dfeb6e No.328073
>>328020
Mirage wasn't done by SJW you fucking retard.
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dfeb6e No.328074
>>328072
> Then just get the PDFs for free and see if you like it without paying them.
That's not going to fix the problem.
The SJWs are making money doing this, which makes them more powerful. They are making more money the more non-SJWs they kick out. By controlling WotC they control the tournament scene and can demand the removal of their trademark from any tournament. Given their market power they also control distribution channels because they can threaten to boycott any distributor who does not close the market to a competitor whose political views they don't like, and the distributor is forced to choose between putting small non-SJW shops out of business or going out of business themselves. That has already happened to the guy who made the Gamergate card game.
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dfeb6e No.328102
>>328074
And you wanna know why SJWs are infiltrating subcultures, right? To control the population! That's what! Keep people divided.
Anywhere a alphabet soup goes, causes nothing more than the destruction of any social structure.
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dfeb6e No.328108
I remember back in '09 or so on /tg/ we were laughing about Stormfront threads trying to stat out ethnicities in d20. Now you can hear sphincters clench when someone includes a black NPC in an England-esque fantasy setting.
There's a strong element of escapism in many games. If someone wants to play a tranny halfling, they should be allowed to as long as you don't squick out the rest of the players.
Really, most GMs are big boys and a drop of tumblr in your manual isn't going to ruin anything for anyone. These things can't be enforced. Heaps of groups online eRP with their futa elves and halfling traps because the players never have to make eye contact or hear each other breathe heavily between dice rolls, and hell, let 'em.
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dfeb6e No.328109
>>328066
>>328071
>socjus v Trump
Don't sjws know that the further they push the pendulum one way, the further it swings back the other.
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dfeb6e No.328110
>>328073
Pretty sure >>328020 wasn't talking about Mirage, the "fantasy Africa" setting, but Theros, aka. "it's like Ancient Greek/Roman Mythology, except everyone are politically correct niggers".
Incidentally, both expansion blocks were some of the lowest-selling sets in Magic(the lowest being Homelands, which was just lazy and uninspired designing). The loss in sales may be a factor in the sudden shift back to plundering their more popular older settings (Zendikar & Innstrad) instead of their stated credo of introducing "new and diverse" settings.
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dfeb6e No.328113
>>328048
Requesting bigger version of this pic if anyone's got it.
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dfeb6e No.328114
>>328113
Fuk I should read the whole thread first
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dfeb6e No.328115
Video in the OP is horrifying. SJWs are complete fucking monsters. There is nothing too immoral or criminal for them to do in their lust for power.
Went and pirated some 5e manuals. Spread them far and wide to spit in WotC's SJW eye. Grab them before some commie faggot flags my MEGA account because I questioned xir evil religion.
https://mega.nz/#F!B9tkRYYB!ZnnJ6pkLjqCdqT7BRTM3Dw
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dfeb6e No.328118
>>328048
>>328049
It's called the System Reference Document–basically the game mechanics with all the fluff and propaganda stripped out. You should be able to download it all for free online, maybe /tg/ or even /v/ can assist with that.
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dfeb6e No.328121
>>328110
Huh, this is the first I'd heard that about Theros.
The loss in sales also could have been due to Theros being uninspired as fuck, and Born of the Gods having been a festering pile of donkey dicks.
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dfeb6e No.328123
>>328022
What's wrong with this illustration? I showed it to one of my SJW friends who got triggered by that Batgirl cover last year, and even she was fine with it, because the woman in the picture is angry, defiant, and fighting back.
>>328058
Can't find anything so wrong with this either, don't go getting triggered by something so minor that isn't out of place.
>>328065
>Check the Dungeon Masters Guide for all the SJW training you'll ever need, from how to railroad campaigns to forcing diversity on players
Screencaps plz
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dfeb6e No.328133
>>328123
It is a man attempting kill a seemingly helpless woman.
Except shes not helpless shes fucking Lilianna. The woman who literally has negative souls. That's right! Selling her soul just once wasn't enough so she did it FIVE FUCKING TIMES.
But only people who play Magic and know who this cunt is know that.
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dfeb6e No.328152
>>328020
The biggest MtG faggot I ever knew knows Valkenburger. What does that tell you.
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dfeb6e No.328156
>>328110
>>328121
>Incidentally, both expansion blocks were some of the lowest-selling sets in Magic
Except Theros was the best selling MtG set. It was only surpassed by Khans (an actual good set).
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dfeb6e No.328219
>>328156
Khans wasn't bad, but fucks sake, I hated the setting.
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dfeb6e No.328237
>>328156
That's a funny way of saying "Return to Ravnica".
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dfeb6e No.328283
>>328123
>Screencaps plz
Because you clearly won't be satisfied even if we spoonfeed the goddamn evidence, have the whole thing because fuck WotC: https://mega.nz/#F!B9tkRYYB!ZnnJ6pkLjqCdqT7BRTM3Dw
Have fun with that.
>>328156
>Theros was the best shilled MtG set.
Fixed that for you,
We never wanted that pandering to progressives shit, we wanted more Ravnica for years.
>an actual good set
Yeah, so good no one talks about the setting months after.
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dfeb6e No.328292
>>328237
RtR was like having nice warm happy memories of something, and then seeing all of it raped to death by jihadifag dune coons.
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dfeb6e No.328295
>>328283
I'm not sure how making shit up about Theros being one of the "lowest-selling sets" helps anyone. It sold very well. It was THE best selling set when it was in standard. It sucks but denying reality won't change that.
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dfeb6e No.328300
>>328295
And what I'm asking for is hard numbers… something WotC has kept suspiciously under wraps.
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dfeb6e No.328335
>>328058
>Changing the art to make it friendly to younger audiences
>Desexualizing creatures as much as possible
>Claiming to call for AD&D fags
It's small now, yes, but it's a foothold, and they'll use it to fuck up shit further down the road.
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dfeb6e No.328336
>>328300
>WotC, actual numbers…
>Never released the full disclosure for D&D edition wars
>But we sold good niggas! We sold best and all projections were gold! Now let's conveniently ignore all the things and go back to the old fans!
They are never going to release shit because they're still experimenting to see just how much they can get away with. Magic is just the most adequate place for it because they have a large captive audience willing to buy anything related to it.
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