422c52 No.327817 [View All]
YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE! YOUR INPUT IS NEEDED!
Greetings anons. Its been a while since we bothered with a board meta thread, and this is the first one in approximately five? months I think.
You know the reason why. Until the recent CON leaks and GG anniversary got people interested, our board was so slow we were actually clear off the first page of the board list more than 80% of the time. During that time, the staff never left, and kept an eye on the board for the usual antics of bump spammers and CP bots, but its pretty undeniable that we have gone a long time without much steam. And that is partly why we're here in this thread.
A very long time ago when this board was first made, I made an exposition to anons about the board's purpose. This was done in an effort to bolster trust in the rather shaken users of /gamergate/ who had just lost their second board to a corrupt admin and his troll friends. A major part of this exposition was a promise: That if a more suitable alt board ever arose and the majority of the community wanted to move, I would close my board and move with them to avoid splitting the GG community.
That time may be coming, and every one of you has a say in it.
The situation:
A person who was once a mod candidate for GGHQ is launching a new #GG hub board on 8chan soon. I spoke with them several days ago and dropped a little preliminary information on /v/ about it. More details have been made available to me, and it looks like this is actually going to happen.
Why this is important:
There has been no shortage of wannabe #GG boards. From /gamergatehb/ to revolt and many in between, a cavalcade of alt boards has rotted on the vine while we held our own for a year and a half. Despite this, the meme of "cuckhq" spread across 8chan and Twitter, and its not an exaggeration to say that our board's bad reputation keeps a lot of anons out. This factor is, I believe, in no small part responsible for how slow we have been in recent months.
Those of you here from the beginning know how this came to be. It started even in the first days of the board, when Ayyteam raided us constantly with spam while shit-talking the board on any platform that would listen, and continues even into recently with the fight against the Cancerfags and their co-opted imageboard site. While we won the war to keep their faggotry from taking over our board in the short term, the long-term damage they've done by their smear campaign has damaged our viability. Feel free to disagree with this, but its how I personally feel.
The reason we fought that war, and why I never capitulated as BO to any of these well-known assholes, is simple: The underhanded cocksuckers deserve nothing but contempt. For the way they fooled the users of /gg/ and /gamergate/ into believing their boards were free, for the way they betrayed #GG and all of us by destroying those boards, for their underhanded and desperate tactics to hold onto power on the boards at any cost, and for finally showing their true colors as wannabe e-celebs, self-interested political shills, trolls, doxers, spammers, hackers, and more. God only knows where we would have ended up if they had managed to set us up for failure even one more time. To quote a man with a fine beard, my reply has always been "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
So let me get to the point.
For the first time, a known party (as much as one can know an anon, anyway) wants to make an alt board to GGHQ. The reasons why are much of what I described above. They think a fresh board, much more open to general political and games industry discussion as well as OPs and digs, would reinvigorate the community, and I don't see a lot of reason to disagree. Say what you will about KiA - they've kept active by making their tent bigger, though they still suffer under the general limitations of lolreddit.
What I know.
Their board is supposed to be a much more general #GG board, much in the flavor of the original /gg/, minus the cancerous cabal behind the scenes. The idea was explained to me as
>some rules to contain the worst autism, more than revolt has but waay less than you with only two or maybe three janitors."
Also bare minimal containment threads, forced anon enabled, no blocking of TOR and some other stuff I'm forgetting. Basically it sounds like a big /v/-/pol/ hybrid with a heavy slant towards #GG.
What I know about the BO.
They're definitely old #GG from before the Exodus. They knew quite a bit about Thidran's circle of faggots and the background shit with them and revolt, and I passed them evidence of the things they didn't know. And they don't do IRC or streams this was a condition of me taking this seriously btw and I trusted them enough to offer a mod slot on this board at one time. I think they understand what they're getting themselves into, which is very important.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no serious objections to their plan. The kicker is that, if their board takes off, I'm obligated by my promise to this place to direct folks there and avoid fracturing the community. This isn't another hostile takeover attempt for me to REEE at. After filling me in on some information a while back, I talked with them again and they're pretty set on doing this soon. If so, a choice is going to have to be made at that time.
FYI I don't plan to abandon GGHQ fully if this winds up happening. I'll hang onto it as a fallback board in the off chance that something ever happens to the new one. I'm not going to piss this place into the wind and leave everyone hanging if shit goes south someday.
What say you, anons?
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422c52 No.327871
>>327869
No idea anon. I tried my best to find that balance here and had every tiny part of it nitpicked and thrown back in my face by one group or another, sometimes twisted into total untruths and spread behind our back.
So far what I've heard sounds like a "less is more" type deal. They keep talking about /gg/ as their inspiration, and I'm kind of limiting my involvement in this to informing them of likely problems. I suggested a handful of things like monthly meta threads, board polls and the like. Stuff we did at the beginning. Or rather things anons taught me to do.
I'm proud of having served as your guys' BO, but I really don't hate the idea of retiring if the hub is in good hands. I'll miss the crazyness I'm sure, but I get to go back to being a strategist, digger and moralefag full time and I really enjoyed that part of #GG too.
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422c52 No.327872
>>327869
>how exactly do you prevent it from becoming all about politics and nothing about video games/media?
I too wonder what the answer to this is. I'm not sure there actually is one. If it's just video games focused, it's generally good for /v/, which is why it's such a solid bedrock. If it's broader then we become /honeypot/ again. Maybe that's what's wanted by the new BO. Reddit definitely is that right now and you can see the Twitter account that deletes their threads to realize their mods are fighting against it.
If people see a point of co-option, they'll take it. And I'm not sure what the answer to that is beyond being vigilant and hunkering down the way GGHQ has. There will always be more political subjects in news than there is video game related content so it's only natural that a more open board will lean that way too.
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422c52 No.327874
>>327872
>If people see a point of co-option, they'll take it. And I'm not sure what the answer to that is beyond being vigilant and hunkering down the way GGHQ has. There will always be more political subjects in news than there is video game related content so it's only natural that a more open board will lean that way too.
Containment threads for off-topic political discussion, maybe?
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422c52 No.327875
>>327864
wait let me get this straight, to prove that you're not autistic you are keep tabs on a website that supposedly doesn't matter just in case the people who don't matter talk about you?
also kek, the fact that you're using posts made almost a year ago is hilarious on two levels. It proves that you in fact cared enough to look at my posting history to justify your bizarre obsession and that jim is a fucking liar and the site records data long past the date he claims. Then again he could be telling the truth and you just have another "dossier" or whatever.
I like that you act like I have an obsession when, i'm sure you can verify this, this was the first time I posted here in many months. If you're wondering why threads are made about you its because you're a constant source of entertainment.
my original statement still stands, take a break from your autism.
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422c52 No.327876
>>327875
Looking at your post history takes one single click, right next to your name. Your posts are still active in the catalog, because 30 pages and board slow.
Taking five seconds to type a URL, verify, and archive that you're really just single-minded and predictable also has some tiny value. Mostly in demonstrating that you're stupid.
Now we wait with baited breath for the inevitable post of more snark, stale memes and damage control.
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422c52 No.327877
What we have now is fine. GG boards have served their purpose but have now become obsolete thanks to the networking and that won't change. Theoretically, even if a board were to get popular it will drop like a rock after a week.
>They think a fresh board, much more open to general political and games industry discussion as well as OPs and digs, would reinvigorate the community, and I don't see a lot of reason to disagree.
Everyone screams about GG being co-opted by the left or right, but this is how you really open the floodgates to being co-opted, especially with politics, when you start to continue opening up the discussion only to remain some sort of relevance or activity and lose focus.
If someone else wants to make a new board they can, but I see no reason why there needs to be any push, or migration, or anything really. The guy should just make his board and that's that. It will take off or die. I don't see why GGHQ or/v/ needs to get involved. Honestly I find it suspect that the guy even contacted you. Just make the fucking board like all the rest (like people did with 8diamonds and other boards) and he will have to do the legwork for it, there doesn't need to be any fanfare or huge involvement.
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422c52 No.327878
>>327877
>Honestly I find it suspect that the guy even contacted you.
Ah, the reason there was to prevent any bad blood. This isn't someone who's trying to destroy GGHQ or replace it by force, they just want to get the 8chan #GG front active again on a board without our ill reputation. We were somewhat acquainted so they had my mod email address.
Don't think I didn't do any digging after the fact to make sure it wasn't a ploy of some kind. If I wasn't certain it's not, I'd have blown it off and this thread wouldn't exist.
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422c52 No.327889
I refuse to move. Fuck branding and attracting normies. This is 8chan, for christ sakes. "cuckhq" isn't a sticky meme and it's toothless after the two years of horseshit we've already been through.
FORMAL VETO AGAINST NEW BOARD
PIC RELATED WHEN ACCEPTING PASSIVE DIVISION & CONQUERING
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422c52 No.327890
>>327889
There's a meaningful backlog of threads on this board that gets effectively lost with the disassociation of a fresh board. If you care at all about Alec Baldwin's XBox Live achievement points you wouldn't want a fresh board that clumsily cross-links to relevant discussion.
Nyberg & Randi also spents months upon months posting CP at all hours trying to taint the well, I didn't keep vigil and report shit just to pull up roots and admit they win. FUCK THAT HAIRY SHEMALE & BLUE PIG
As far as I'm concerned, board traffic is an irrelevant statistic and Gamergate involvement has always been tiered. You're never going to get the plebbitors to actively post here because they're terrified of chan-posting for some reason, and they're satisfied circling a new SocJus media issue every 18 hours. I question how many of them have actually read the CON leaks straight from the tap vs. the highlighting talking points that get "le upboated" on KiA.
Moving boards is a bad idea. We're not so different from the CON inner circle; 30ish internet bad-asses and a few hundred or thousand orbiters depending on the weather. The difference is they still don't know who we are & we're far more persistent. Their win condition is a constant balancing act, while ours is one or two well placed shots that cause everything to come toppling down. Relocating is not beneficial.
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422c52 No.327896
>>327869
>>327874
This makes me wonder why we don't just have rotating threads for threads that aren't operations or digging.
One for shitposting.
One SJW in politics and news media.
One for SJW in other aspects of media.
And one for other meta-threads on other "branches" of GG (KIA and Twitter).
We can discuss those things here WITHOUT dragging down Ops or actual "work" imo.
>>327889
>>327890
I'm also voting against a board split (even if it's meant with the best of intentions).
If this guy was so trusted to be a mod- why not have him help mod "Un-GG" content? Make sure that sort of content stays in the above threads?
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422c52 No.327905
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sp3jub
Acidman you husband wants to give you the Dick again,honestly taking a look at the likes to this tweet its no surprise who nackt pals around with now mostly Thirdian and his IRC bunch still obsessing that you told them to fuck off because they kept wrecked boards still assmad at you for this long this should be a Guinness book of records,repeating the shit he posted in his last 4 tweetlongers.
Tell whoever's wants to go ahead an open a new gg board i doubt anyone from here would want to go to it though if the "anonymous BO" trick they pulled on /gg/ = Niko and /furry/ = Zan that trick is overplayed and outdone,you barely ban anyone or pull threads anyway its been like this for over 6 months.
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422c52 No.327908
>>327869
>I myself have had some issues with KiA having a tendency to veer way off course. Their rules state "no unrelated politics", yet you see >guys trying to push politics unrelated to games/nerd culture all the time.
They have been like this ever since Hat left and they modified their rules actually they are always modifying their rules every 3 months,they also ban way more shit that we do, see what happens when you carry that behavior onto imageboards /ggr/ on dryboneschan is a good example of what unchecked politics that has nothing to do with gg would do.
>While it's nice to get a broader base, I'm a little concerned since this sort of thing is what attracted shitheads like the IRCfags to GG in >the first place. If they're not just trolls looking for people to fuck with, they're individuals who're balls-deep in the alt-right camp and want >some sort of excuse to push their own agendas–They see that we're against SJWs, jump in claming they support GG, try to take control >of us for their own benefit, and get buttmad when we don't let them.
Sums up the burnouts and e-celebs rather nicely.
If they put in half as much effort they put in trying to accomplish their own goals instead of screeching that no one outside their gang agrees with them they could shit done,but sadly i don't think they are capable of accomplishing their own goals they couldn't even run a board on here gg,gamergate,ggr without destroying it
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422c52 No.327923
>>327908
The core of the altright is not interested in that anymore. They dropped the ball when Aurini got problems with some porn addict and Reaxxion was shut down. Partly rightfully, because its design was based on Return of Kings which was faulty from the getgo. People didn't want a good guy clickbait site, that does merely some clickbait on the side to lure in the run of the mill degenerates and reform them with the rest. People wanted radical alternative, because they were sick of clickbait as a modus operandi.
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422c52 No.327947
Not against the idea - but - there's a but - see how it plays out over time.
Pretty much agree with what some of the other fags said:
>>327896
This rotating threads idea yup.
>>327890
>There's a meaningful backlog of threads on this board that gets effectively lost with the disassociation of a fresh board.
This board acts as a decent archive in a way. Some good reading.
>>327831
> I would keep both running concurrently for a while and see what happens.
>>327817
>I'll hang onto it as a fallback board in the off chance that something ever happens to the new one.
Point as above - lot of info here for newfags to read up on, or to direct to as a refresher.
There were some GG archive boards once upon a time -don't know if they're still about - but certainly would be a good idea to keep this one around as a back up.
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422c52 No.327962
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422c52 No.327963
>>327962
Ok fuck that, why does this work but not what I wanted to post:
For:
>>327890
http://pastebin.com/U5Wwkvpg
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422c52 No.327964
I'm not against the idea of a successor board, per se, but things are pretty dead and I worry that another board split now would just kill things further.
But I don't see a slow board being that much of an issue. People come back for happenings. It's not ever really going to be like it was two years ago when everything was on fire and it was like a rollercoaster. We weathered massive storms and wrecked the shit of corrupt bastards who tried to stand toe to toe with us. When the usual suspects attempt their same tired shit again, we'll be here to stop them. But it doesn't need to be explosive energy and crusading all the time.
That's the primary failing of the SJW, right? It ends up consuming their lives until it's all they've got. But at some point in the fight, I'd like to have won enough that I can just go back to playing video games until someone does something stupid and it's time step up again.
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422c52 No.327971
With a new board there will probably be some fags thinking they can co-opt it, some d+c shills, etc, still missing the point. Over the course of GG up to now, there's been various 'leaders' -not in any real sense - and various fags who tried the approach of: 'This is the direction GG needs to take going forward' -and presenting some list of 'ideals' - like the rest of us were just going to bow down and say 'OK'. All kind of missing the 'no leaders' thing.
GG as a group - loose-knit as it is - is a thing in itself now (and for the last 2 years) - it's not going away and won't suddenly 'fall' to some leader or co-option.
It's a bit like a local hall or venue, where the doors are always open and people can come and go as they wish. At one end of the hall there's a stage and sometimes people get up and try to 'lead' or take the spotlight (e-celebs) -they get some attention from fags down by the stage -but get booed off after a while. In the rest of the hall other fags ignore them and carry on doing their own thing. Some are sat round tables or on sofas chewing the fat, others are creating stuff, digging, archiving or working shit out (OPs, websites) -either on their own or in groups. Some fags are playing the arcade machines by the door. There's no sign on the door saying 'You can only enter if you identify as X and your politics are Y'. Anyone needs a break -off they go -the doors will still be open when they get back.
Not against a new board -let someone else take the reigns for a bit - but still with this one as a fallback, however quiet it gets.
Not too concerned with co-option, d+c shilling, etc, with what I said above. GG has always had a 'do your own thing' about it -some of it gets picked up, some of it doesn't -it's still a contribution. From the start it's been fragmented and incoherent -can't lead or co-opt that.
>>327964
>That's the primary failing of the SJW, right? It ends up consuming their lives until it's all they've got.
They don't look much beyond it either, if at all.
>>327863
Quite like that Asuka pic, not sure why. Maybe it's quite simple, maybe the pose, dunno.
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422c52 No.328047
>>327971
To be honest, if we are going to go through with this we're always gonna have to have a life boat set up in case this new place being talked about ends up tossed to the shitter.
If we can inject some new life into GamerGate in general, so be it. I'm just not willing to sell out our ideals for a 1UP.
Then again our kind isn't very accustomed to big levels of change. So if this new board is opened soon we'll have to move or stay as a group. We can't divide ourselves further.
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422c52 No.328081
Well, I don't care that much, except leave a message of some sort that there's a new active GG board for newcomers. Because when I first came here, I got a bit confuse about the several GG boards, except for Revolt. So unless I am taking a shortcut from KiA subreddit coming here, I will end up a bit "lost."
Don't forget to bring the important stuff, like the CON links and the latest operations that's going on,
I however would need to transfer my GG wiki-tan notes.
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422c52 No.328091
>>328081
>name field is MikiSayaka33
>unless I am taking a shortcut from KiA subreddit coming here, I will end up a bit "lost."
Jesus Christ. Is this real?
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422c52 No.328105
>>328091
That's what I was thinking, boss.
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422c52 No.328117
>>327964
>But at some point in the fight, I'd like to have won enough that I can just go back to playing video games
Not going to happen as long as one communist remains alive on the earth.
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422c52 No.328120
>>328105
Unfortunately, I'm an embarrassing Newfag, hence my profile name being posted in some boards. I'm still learning the ropes.
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422c52 No.328126
The fuck is this shit still up?
Niggers theres like 30 uips here and the breads on /v/ last about 2 days.
Making a new board is absolutely pointless since there isn't much going on anyway for those people to do unless you want to watch retarded e-celeb slapfights and once in a while happening.
we are far better just sticking together on here than spliting again sice with every split the new board will have less people than the original
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422c52 No.328142
>>328126
I agree, this is a bad idea.
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422c52 No.328148
So wait, this board doesn't allow political discussion?
I have been away too long, this is exactly what i've wanted out of KiA for ages, i left 8ch because i thought you lost focus obsessing over irrelevant minor SJW shit, but now i've seen the same shit on KiA for quite a while and with the election coming it's worse than ever.
Guess i'll stay for a while, as for the new board i'll make sure to avoid it as it sounds terrible.
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422c52 No.328151
>>328148
We do allow political discussion, but our rep is that we don't. Blame the clique for spreading the meme.
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422c52 No.328155
Reminder that the Trump Train is GamerGate 2.0
Same story, just bigger name corruption.
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422c52 No.328157
In the event of a board change, it will have to coincide when the site itself is in better shape and at a time when there aren't any negative feelings between anons on different boards. The place will most likely be in high spirits if the election turns in our favor, with the media spilling spaghetti of epic proportions in regards to us, thus providing ample opportunities for a healthier board.
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422c52 No.328160
>>328151
Guess i won't stick around then, i want nothing to do with that.
The only thing i actually care about is ethics in video game journalism.
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422c52 No.328168
>>328155
This nigga gets it.
Gamergate was the first strike against our SJW oppressors. Trump is the next attack, and much bigger one.
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422c52 No.328199
>>328155
>>328168
And here are some more D&C sliders who don't realize that Trump and Clinton are in the same damn boat.
GG is at it's best when it stays independent and doesn't touch the poop that is our corrupted political system.
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422c52 No.328200
>>328199
You are the D&C shill. Gamergate has been a struggle against our SJW oppressors since day one.
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422c52 No.328204
>>328200
But we've never backed a corrupt political candidate. Nor was this a war against SJWs, it was an exposure of corrupt journalists. Anyone who says otherwise is either a plant or D&C shills.
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422c52 No.328205
The only semblance to Trump is the way the mass media slandered him from day one in a co- ordinated fashion attaching bizarre political terms and straight up fear mongering to drive away his supports and alienate him from others exactly like gamergate.
I feel this anti sjw stuff tends to attract people who think and act exactly like the people they claim to hate basically same wine different bottle particularly on twatter where you can see just how the some of the antisjw mirror the sjw they claim to be at war against.
Reminds me of animal farm where the animals run out the humans then the pigs take over and start acting exactly like the humans
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422c52 No.328214
>>328204
>Nor was this a war against SJWs, it was an exposure of corrupt journalists
It's just pure coincidence that 100% of the corrupt journalists are SJWs. Kill yourself you queer.
>>328205
Pic always relevant, always makes SJWs assmad.
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422c52 No.328222
The above posts are the reason it's always best to avoid partisan politics in the discussion of GG. A few faggots see us fighting the SJWs' attack against gaming, and they take advantage of it by trying to push a non-gaming related agenda. They do so by doing shit like attempting to equate SJWism/anti-SJWism with a specific political party, presidential candidate, or a side in the left-right spectrum. As such, it attracts more faggots that care more about politics than games/games media (such as the IRCfags), and it fractures the community over stupid shit.
This is actually the reason why I preferred it if there was a greater degree of separation between GG and /pol/.
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422c52 No.328227
>>328222
Well when /pol/ was the ones that wanted to kill Gamergate because we weren't causing enough SJW suicides and were actually using a soft strategy THAT WORKED (Rest in Pieces, Gawker) yeah… /pol/ was never our friend. TBH that could be where much of the D&C's been coming from.
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422c52 No.328228
>>328214
>Implying the Anti-SJWs aren't part of the same corrupt coin.
You're not awake, you're groggy. The answer is right there in front of you, right at the edge of your sight, yet you just can't put your finger on it.
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422c52 No.328239
>>328222
Trips chkd
/pol/'s fight is not gg's fight. There's overlap but then there's overlap with plenty of other things.
>The above posts are the reason it's always best to avoid partisan politics in the discussion of GG.
No doubt half the time it's shills v shills trying to sow discord. On the surface that's how it appears, but it's easy to dial out the noise, focus on what you want and who you communicate with.
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422c52 No.328243
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422c52 No.328245
Ever wondered where all those people that use to post here ended up?
i wonder that all the time.
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422c52 No.328250
>>328228
Nigga you gay. Socjus has destroyed western civilization.
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422c52 No.328254
>>328245
Moved on to other boards. Have an IP.
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422c52 No.328255
>trusting antipope bergoglio even when he's accidentally right
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422c52 No.328256
>>328255
whoops wrong thread lol fuk
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422c52 No.328258
>>328204
>Nor was this a war against SJWs, it was an exposure of corrupt journalists
And that's why this board is below 1 PPH now.
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422c52 No.328263
>>328239
And it's a shill tactic to call it shills vs shills.
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422c52 No.328264
>>328263
>dial out the noise
Focus on that bit instead.
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