105e09 No.327365 [Last50 Posts]
Meme: http://xarti.deviantart.com/art/Oc-Age-Meme-Gerta-Wicks-622302054
GG Wiki-tan: http://xarti.deviantart.com/art/GGwiki-Chan-613222903
Her teen form is because is to symbolize the fact that the wiki needs more info/pages/data to grow/ be complete.
But the adult and toddler forms, would need some work and better changes. Judging from the feedback that I got for them. KiA: https://www.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4thcin/mine_oc_age_meme_gerta_wicks/
So what would ya guys like for me to change?
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105e09 No.327374
The controller on her head could be changed to a big hair bow -styled as a controller.
Here's my (poor) effort I just did in paintnet - just to give you an idea what I mean.
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105e09 No.327378
>>327374
> The controller on her head could be changed to a big hair bow -styled as a controller.
How about making it a hat like those animal ear hats?
'cause some of the old pics look like Viv rageplanted a controller in her head and the doctors cannot risk surgery to remove it without the possibility of killing her
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105e09 No.327380
>>327378
The reason why I gave her the French hat, was because that's how the game controller appears like and her color scheme are the wiki's colors: purple, green, blue, red, and white (I know it's called a 'barret', but I'm haven't trouble spelling French words): http://thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php?title=File:GGNewsLogo.png
Started drawing the sketch/outline.
Ya mean like those Disneyland hats or the way Blake (RWBY)'s "bow" is like (That'll mean I'll have to make the controller "bow" to match her hair.
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105e09 No.327383
Why does this even exist.
You're just going to have people not want to associate with that wiki with this thing.
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105e09 No.327384
>>327383
This.
The wiki doesn't need a terrible tan.
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105e09 No.327386
I know you mean well
but please dont
this hurts
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105e09 No.327387
>So what would ya guys like for me to change?
Would you please get her a exorcism?
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105e09 No.327391
I was under the impression that vivian was the wiki mascot
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105e09 No.327393
I hope ya guys aren't confusing the dream selfie for the GG wiki-tan, since that's not the GG wiki-tan (Why would I be dumb to use a DS for the gijinka? That would be too lazy.)
But I do care about the GG wiki, since I know that we need a wiki-tan badly. I barely got feedback when I posted this up in DA, voat, and reddit, except git gud with drawing (If I knew I was gonna get feedback in 8chan, I should've came here earlier…Like before I drew her).
How bad is the GG wiki-tan? I'm a bit miff that reddit and voat didn't say a thing when I posted something bad, I think it was buried under news of the latest pc/sjw stupidity.
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105e09 No.327396
>>327393
is incredibly unappealing and has a very cluttered design both design-wise and color-wise.
i recommend balling it up and hucking it in the trash and then iterating on the design again based on the core ideas behind it and stuff you liked/learned from the previous design. quite possibly multiple times till you get something good. (rome wasn't built in a day, etc. etc.)
as an artist, one thing you have to learn is how to let go. some times you gotta grab your gun and take a thing out to the green pasture one last time.
one good starting point would be to pick out a good color pallet.
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105e09 No.327398
>>327393
>we need a wiki-tan badly
Do we?
That's an actual question. We've already got Vivian, Gilda, Freya, and Danielle for the main ones. Why does the wiki need another one?
As for how bad it is:
Pretty bad.
The colors all clash, its' overdesigned to hell on the hat, the leggings, accessories, even the the dress that has two things on top of it. It's like you just threw everything you could together in one to make something that looks like a 14 year old's amateur tumblr creation.
And this is without getting into the general skill level shown with the art.
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105e09 No.327399
>>327393
>since I know that we need a wiki-tan badly
No we need don't. Vivian and the deepfreeze sisters is plenty. All of these characters were drawn on imageboards, not fucking deviantart or tumblr, and half the reason was just an excuse for porn.
The GG wiki is for information and editing: keep it there. This is MLP tier autism.
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105e09 No.327402
>>327365
Kid, your art is shit. Get better, first off. Secondly, we don't need another tan. Danielle and Freya both encompasses archiving and digging. Third, the "tan" you are creating is overly designed and will never catch on because it wasn't created by GG, it was created by you and you alone. Please for the love of God, don't do this. It's seriously MLP tier cringe.
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105e09 No.327404
I think this character is utterly useless but I like the easy challenge of improving shit that's even more amateur than me. feed my ego
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105e09 No.327405
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105e09 No.327406
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105e09 No.327408
>>327365
First off:
LOSE THE GLASSES
It conjures bad images. Other than that, you do have potential, just don't be down by all the harsh criticism. Just take them as lessons to do better.
>>327406
Disgusting. Keep going, I'm liking this challenge. Maybe make it a drawfag activity?
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105e09 No.327409
I've been thinking that I can go two routes, since I know I have to scrap everything.
The I now know cluttered design was because I was thinking TOO hard of the wiki's main page and the editing, the colors, the horizontal lines, and I even add the updated controller to boot.
I know we have to get the wiki out there, figure that a wiki-tan would go an extra mile to reach out (Since wikipedia, ED, and such already have some mascot for the extra mileage and representation).
I know I needed help, when I finished drawing her. She didn't have much personality or hobby, plus, I did have a bad feeling that I needed imput from ya guys (I failed partially in reddit, though one guy did say it was Chris Chan level autism, besides git gud).
What I like:
I used the color schemes of the wiki.
One personality characteristic is her high self-esteem (But I'm willing to change her personality to make it fit for the new wiki-tan, since I'm throwing everything in the trash).
The name, I based it on the initials: G G W. (Willing to dump the name since I"m restarting).
Both teen and adult version challenged me to draw something I'm familiar with drawing.
What I like about the adult version:
Challenge me a bit to go a bit out of my comfort zone.
The Ipad.
Boobs - Since I know that's the one of the laundry list of things that SJWs hate, especially if there's cleveage (But that's tricky to draw for me).
Route 2, which of the already created tans is good to represent the wiki? I'd like to go for an underdog tan, like Freya or Gilda. But if we go this route, I'd rather that ya guys vote which is the best out of them all to represent the wiki (Test out all of them, Vivian, the Twins, and etc.), rather than my own personal feelings and thoughts get in the way.
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105e09 No.327410
>>327409
I'm biased since I'm stealing your project here but at this point I'd just stop worrying and lay back. See if this can get hammered into something the community does like, and if it does, you'll have lots of material to study on what they liked better or not
>>327408
I definitely like the idea of it being a drawfag activity. Hold on, I'll write a blurb in a bit
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105e09 No.327411
Sorry, I meant that the teen and adult versions challenge me to go to some unfamiliar turf and something I'm not used to drawing.
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105e09 No.327412
>>327411
I shouldn't be doing stuff when I'm half-awake.
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105e09 No.327413
>>327408
here, spread it to any drawfags you know
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105e09 No.327414
Also, fixing her background (I shouldn't base an OC off of Aoba Suzukaze (New Game!) and having a bit of Baby Doll (Batman)'s issues and hang ups. Not good at that and asking for trouble).
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105e09 No.327415
>>327414
I'm willing to salvage her, but were to start?
Personality-wise, I know she has to be a different from Vivian, Gilda, and the Twins. But I don't know were to start.
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105e09 No.327416
>>327415
you say you're half-awake, go to sleep then
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105e09 No.327417
>>327413
Hahaha, saved.
>>327416
>go to sleep
This is actually very good advice. A well-rested mind can give you fresh perspective on the problem at hand, OP.
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105e09 No.327423
>>327365
To be honest, you shouldn't really worry about making a -tan until the wiki is actually up to date.
>>327402
Wow, mean
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105e09 No.327424
this art is dogshit.
study proportions. head is a third the size of the body. the legs are freakishly short. the eyes take up way too much space. where's her nose? hands arent hands, theyr clumps
did netscape set u up to this?
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105e09 No.327426
>>327424
Nope, I drew and submit it in reddit. He just spread the word, now I just need to tell him that I got a proper GG wiki-tan later on.
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105e09 No.327427
>>327423
I and a whole bunch of people are already doing that, but it's a long process to make the GG wiki up to date (I mean most of the Game Journo Pros don't have pages about them and we barely started on ExpoGate, for starters).
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105e09 No.327432
>>327410
She looks French, oui? (If the shoes were different).
As the other fags said - lose the glasses.
Try deck shoes/skate pumps - like Reefs.
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105e09 No.327433
>327393
Before this conversation takes a turn have you considered asking the guy who runs the wiki if he is interested in adding a tan with the website?
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105e09 No.327434
Don't bother with a tan.
Just update the wiki and leave it at that. If you want to draw stuff on your own time do so but don't expect anyone in a mile radius to want to attach it to the site.
>>327433
Also this.
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105e09 No.327437
>>327413
we gonna need a team of very dedicated drawfags to redesign her maybe get rid of all that excess fluff on the character she might look slightly less retarded hell that gilda chick was dogshit plain and was somehow redesigned to look presentable
We have the technology we can rebuild her
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105e09 No.327446
>>327437
Ok, I'll talk to the admins of the wiki. Before any of us, including me, do anything further.
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105e09 No.327478
>>327446
Two responded, the first said no tan, because the wiki is somber. Though he's not stopping anyone if they want to make a tan for the wiki.
The other said that it's fine just needs a WHOLE LOT of retooling. Since the wiki is somber, the tan should reflect it and not something like Gilda Mars. Plus, ditch the glasses.
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105e09 No.327479
>>327478
I mean the wiki-tan needs retooling.
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105e09 No.327542
The design needs simplifying for sure. You want something that's quick and easy to redraw while remaining recognisable even with a minimalist theme, and the blue hair with controller hat are plenty enough for that.
you don't need three colours for the boots. You don't need a plushy keychain on the side. You don't need elaborate patterns on the skirt. >>327410 is a step in the right direction, but you can still simplify the shoes or shirt somewhat. And does she really need that dangling wristband?
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105e09 No.327554
>>327542
Already coming up with a simple sketch, I'm drawing it on my sketchbook.
No, I don't need the plushy keychain.
Someone suggested deck shoes/ reefs.
The wristbands I don't know, if it's needed or not (Though it might clash with the solemn angle that people are suggesting that I going for).
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105e09 No.327560
Can ya see the sketch? This is the first one that I came up with after I got my much needed input.
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105e09 No.327561
>>327560
Still new to using Fire Alpaca, waiting for the wiki higher ups to respond.
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105e09 No.327562
>>327542
who's the idiot drawfag who used the wrong fucking gilda design
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105e09 No.327563
>>327560
as I mentioned, I think you'd do better to sit back and let this one march on its own
that said, I think that's an improvement, although perhaps too formal now with the shirt and all; could easily even fall into danielle's niche. additionally, I'd argue actual letters as part of the design is a touch too detailed, but that's me
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105e09 No.327564
>>327563
Ok.
Well, the letters were from the updated GG controller and the old design.
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105e09 No.327565
>>327564
I get where the letters are from, just feel they're a touch too complex. Then again I dislike open GG references in things, makes me cringe a bit, so eh. Bias.
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105e09 No.327566
>>327565
Well, I am a bit slow when it comes to doing designs. Since I spent time thinking about it and updating the wiki.
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105e09 No.327567
If you want to give her breasts that makers her an adult. Possibly the school librarian.
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105e09 No.327569
>>327567
Well, at least the sketch has me drawing a teen, but drawing adults has been difficult for me (At least I'm practicing). Because they look like animu- teens and the men look like skinny bishies (I get in more trouble trying to draw people with different body types).
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105e09 No.327570
Lolz. I need more practice and art tutorials (aka spend some time in /drc/.
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105e09 No.327573
At this point, I don't know if I should make the new wiki tan an adult or teen.
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105e09 No.327576
>>327573
You could make her like the young adult who's just starting out. Danielle is already the professional, who has everything organized/archived - and to tie in with what you said at the top - that the new wiki-tan needs more info/data to grow - she could be the one who's new to the game, learning the skills.
As suggested, her character could be keen and serious/sombre, or could be more keen and sprightly - like the one who tries hard with lots of energy/enthusiasm but sometimes messes things up due to inexperience.
Everyone's got to start somewhere.
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105e09 No.327631
>>327576
I do like the idea of making her into an adult that's just starting out and having her be keen and sprightly. The additional stuff ya said ties in what I imagine the new tan to be, but the idea is improve.
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105e09 No.327678
>>327631
Here's some sketches for some ideas, though I would like to see what ya guys can come up with (I know the proportions are bad, but these are just sample drawings).
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105e09 No.327686
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105e09 No.327801
>>327686
Brainstorming and I got stuck.
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105e09 No.327802
My reasons for making the wiki-tan in haste was because no one has an idea that there's a new and imporve GG wiki, especially within our own ranks. So a tan would spread the information that there's a NEW GG wiki, plus, I don't like the idea of normies and neutrals going to wikipedia, Rational wiki, and other SJW wikis for Gamergate information.
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105e09 No.327829
Make her a federal agent, now we know the FBI used GG Wiki links.
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105e09 No.327906
>>327829
Like this? I forgotten to put sunglasses on her, since MIB and the last FBI charries that I've seen sometimes wear them. Now I'm wondering if I should omit them entirely.
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105e09 No.327910
>327906
No need for sunglasses
Is she wearing a suit?
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105e09 No.327911
Here's one of my experimental sketches. Thinking about "Hey, Arnold." I'm trying to chill a bit and draw the wiki-tan in different clothes, hair styles, and see if I'll get some sort of inspiration.
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105e09 No.327912
>>327911
i like this one but the tits are too big we already have an oppai tan Danielle make her flat cause flat is justice
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105e09 No.327915
>>327912
Ok, flat it is then. I wasn't so sure earlier.
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105e09 No.327917
>>327910
Suppose to be wearing a suit.
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105e09 No.327918
>>327915
show some midriff
>>327917
i saw it and immediately thought Hilary clinton
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105e09 No.327921
Here. I'm not good at drawing cleavage, since I don't usually think about that stuff (Since I usually think "cover up"). Well, at least I'm trying to shrink the boobs, I don't want to give Danielle unintentional competition.
Oops, I don't want outsiders to think we are drinking.
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105e09 No.327928
Even though I'm chilling a bit, I'm wondering besides the name change to the GG wiki-tan. Do ya guys want me to change her hair style?
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105e09 No.327957
>>327928
Try one of these i recommend the first one
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105e09 No.327958
I like the bow thing here >>327374 better than the berret find a way to incorporate in into the final design please
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105e09 No.327972
>>327957
They could be sisters - except #5.
Agree on the first one yup.
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105e09 No.327985
So, use the ribbons like this? What design should I use.
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105e09 No.328082
More sketch (Sithspit, I'm not sure if ya guys can see these notes clearly).
Someone suggested cleavage, I'm still new in drawing stuff like that (Some of the sample drawings here gave her a bigger bust size).
Two (or three) of the samples I drew inspiration from Rikku's FFX-2 design and Cidney (FFXV).
Do ya like the bow/ribbon.
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105e09 No.328085
>>328082
Ya guys have to click and enlarge the pics.
The bigger bust size is accidental, of course. Since flat it is.
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105e09 No.328094
>>328085
Don't post with a name on 8chan, it's primarily an anonymity centered website.
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105e09 No.328107
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105e09 No.328147
>>328107
New samples guys.
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105e09 No.328181
Hi, can ya see this? I accidentally click on something.
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105e09 No.328194
>>328147
the boobs are a nice touch
sadly your art style hasn't changed much
do you have a senpai to provide inspiration for you?
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105e09 No.328206
>>328194
Nope, I don't have a senpai to give me inspiration, guidance, and help. I usually go looking for tutorials in Youtube, Deviantart, and Tumblr. I even use "Manga for Dummies" and other self-help art books. I personally don't know how to do another style, except Peanuts and Powerpuff.
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105e09 No.328298
>>327563
Hey, did I give enough sample drawings? I rather give ideas for you guys to bounce off of, since I'll be taking a step back.
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105e09 No.328299
>>328298
I forgotten to add that my drawing style hasn't change much. Since it's usually like this, unless it's Peanuts or Powerpuff style.
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105e09 No.328305
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>>328299
I think you're making a bigger mistake if you're going to give up. As I look up more of your work, I'm actually seeing potential here. The thing is, these are still to rough and unrefined. You need to practice more and stick to a definite style of your own, even if you don't feel like you can improve any more. It's a lot like practicing a skill or training in a martial art: the more you do it, the more you will get better at it. And even if you can't tell the difference, others will see the improvements.
So don't feel too bad with your current proficiency right now. Just keep on working to improve yourself.
>Peanuts or Powerpuff style
I happen to be actually good friends IRL with a certain popular or infamous artist (depending on which side you look at it) that you might have heard of, and he also started out like that. He then experimented on emulating many different styles and artists, until he settled on the art style that he is well known of today, which ironically was the style he started out with, only more polished and professional.
And also, more importantly, he went through all this through all the negative criticism, bullying, and harassment, and improved himself. So don't take it so hard when you get mocked and yelled at, take it as lessons that you need to git gud. BTW, pics related to said artist's works–some of these are not publicly shared but I still kept copies archive to remind ourselves that we can continue to do better.
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105e09 No.328310
>>328305
Thanks, I'll hang in there and continue to submit ideas until one clicks with all of ya guys, then I'll add the colors - Since I color slowly was the reason why I was ONLY submitting line art earlier (The guys that were saying that I should step down confuse me a bit, didn't help that I'm still learning how to draw women, especially young adult women).
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105e09 No.328373
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105e09 No.328426
>>328373
I've been wondering, do ya guys want me to change the colors to the hair, clothes, and bow?
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105e09 No.328437
>>328373
Mini skirt and top
Now she looks like a skanky whore
>>328426
I think the colors are ok
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105e09 No.328440
>>328437
So, I'll get inspired by the samples I made before. Ditch the sport's bra and think of something that's slightly revealing without taking away from the librarian look.
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105e09 No.328442
>>328440
So were should I go for inspiration? So, I won't draw a skanky whore by accident.
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105e09 No.328445
>>328442
Use this as a guide make a cutie librarian but don't make her a slut
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105e09 No.328465
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105e09 No.328474
>>328445
>Not Ellen Baker
Missed opportunity.
>>328442
Here's a few samples for starters. You can always check out your favorite image board for more. Or maybe start a >>>/c/ for librarians?
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105e09 No.328477
>>328474
Thanks a bunches guys, this gives me a lot of ideas, I have a new sample that'll put up eventually.
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105e09 No.328489
Here's another sample, the vest on the dress is already sewn on to the dress and is part of it (It's based on one of my cousin's dresses).
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105e09 No.328499
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>328489
Makes me think of Show By Rock. Have you watched that show? Maybe you can get more inspiration from it.
It's actually not bad at all, despite clearly being a glorified ad for Sanrio's mobile game and merchandise.
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105e09 No.328500
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>328499
Here's the OP for the new season.
No seriously, there's some very familiar parallels with SBR's plot buried underneath the light pop music and fluffiness.
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105e09 No.328525
>>328500
No, I never heard of Show By Rock.
Looks, like I need to give it a go.
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105e09 No.328542
>>328525
Putting the writing aside, what you're looking for doing research through watching animated shows like SBR is the character design and art direction.
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105e09 No.328642
>>328542
Here's some of my updated notes (and the back part of her vest), I still need to do more research.
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105e09 No.328792
>>328642
Looks a bit better than the last
Keep it up dood
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105e09 No.328840
I'm wondering what I can glean from this idea, even though I'm not gonna use this outfit for the final piece. I'm thinking a bit about "Beyond Good and Evil."
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105e09 No.328841
>>328840
Okay, it's back to work for me.
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105e09 No.328846
>>327404
That's actually pretty good.
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105e09 No.329123
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105e09 No.329138
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105e09 No.329807
Sorry, I got artist block and was gaming earlier.
Some of these are from the librarian samples to give me ideas earlier.
A) Patchouli's dress.
B) Final Fantasy 3's scholar class idea.
C) Anne Green (Or Ellen Baker)
D) Yomiko
E) I forgotten were I got this idea, maybe from old notes here. But I gave her a bit of tiny bit of cleavage.
F) A simple version of Tear Grant (Tales of the Abyss)'s costume/ combined with my original anime-ish combo. (I don't know were I got this idea).
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105e09 No.330042
>>329807
Both C and D outfits look just right.
Also, good on you for practicing. I'm noting some consistency in the faces. Will this be the fixed/finalized design of her appearance? Keep up the good work.
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105e09 No.330066
>>330042
I think the face, hair, bow, and body type are good to go. But the clothes, I don't know what to give her and I'm just going by what ya anons suggested and whenever I get hit with inspiration.
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105e09 No.330080
>>330042
I'm not sure about the wiki-tan's clothes, since I don't know which type of clothes ya guys want - Besides librarian-ish. But the rest is good to go.
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105e09 No.330112
Just leaving this here. Hope it helps.
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1dbf2e No.330566
Here's a new sample.
Sorry for the delays though.
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5e16d2 No.330982
So, which one do you want me to take and improve/tweak even further?
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ada9d2 No.331400
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