/gamergatehq/ - The GamerGate Headquarters

Continued…

"Bitmob" is actually the games site owned by Dan Hsu.

https://archive.is/StFwM

Hsu called #GG "a lot of manufactured drama"

https://archive.is/W5wrx

Hsu left games media and took a parting shot at #GG

https://archive.is/rE6kO

And he now works at Sony Computer Entertainment America, one of the few advertisers to never pull out of Kotaku after OP: DISNOD.

https://archive.is/75Pd5

His specialty? Indie and third party game relations.

Hsu also wrote the foreward to the Videogame Style Guide that was written by Kyle Orland and other journos and DiGRA members.

www.gamestyleguide.com/VideoGameStyleGuideeBook.pdf

>Author "Bitmob" (contributed by Dan Hsu's company) on Venturebeat (who later acquired Bitmob) with several interesting pieces.

Shitting on PAX https://archive.is/kHpjy

Pimping FEZ https://archive.is/lrlfT

Gaming needs to Grow Up https://archive.is/PZfEm

Fighting Sexism with Fire (cites Maddy Myers also) https://archive.is/TRaCM

>Bitmob PAX article also links to a gaming site called "Leviathyn" with some interesting articles

"Patriarchy in Gaming and Anita Sarkeesian" by Austin Small in Dec. 2014

https://archive.is/hW6dg

They did a podcast about #GG

http://www.leviathyn.com/2014/09/19/nintencast-14-gamergate-speak/

>Austin Small on "Are Videogames Art Yet?"

https://archive.is/F4NgQ

>Austin Small on "Subliminal projection and programming behaviour" in gaming

https://archive.is/FL4cu

>Elizabeth Sampat with a hitpiece, cited by Scott Madin

http://archive.is/0oejk

>Who is Elizabeth Sampat?

https://archive.is/aIqxN

>She was on the IGDA Women In Games steering committee for two years; Marie Claire called her "The Game Changer" when they named her one of "20 Women Changing The Ratio" in male-dominated industries.

>Elizabeth's personal work has been in the LA Times and on Rock Paper Shotgun, and her advocacy and talks have been covered on Polygon, Kotaku, The Escapist, and more.

SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTARY

>L Rhodes was shitting on #GG just the day before this thread began.

https://tweetsave.com/upstreamism/status/726822001302609920

EVIDENCE

>Alexander Bevier became a contributor to Extra Credits in 2012

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:66cDfzyKnd8J:extra-credits.org/category/news/+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

>Extra Credits on #GG [NOT previously archived]

http://archive.is/BW4X0

>Courtney on "Surviving Gamergate"

http://archive.is/g0oiG

>>323206

Fuck off

>>323214

You can stop posting anytime D&C shill.

>>323218

Holy fuck seriously? I wonder how many of them are this guy posting on VPN because he keeps having to switch it.

>>323216

>One important element is: the forums for each respective webcomic; as these were the primary attack-vector for the SJWs to get close to the artists in order to get them to drink the SOCJUST Koolaide. Especially 2005 onward.

I disagree, because I know for a fact that Penny Arcade actively ignores their official forums. I know from being banned three times for posting bald edits over the course of six months, and being constantly admonished by mods for bald editing despite all other edits being allowed and it being a dedicated thread on the forums for every new comic at the time.

I don't know about Scott Kurtz, I assume he would be hungry from attention and would read his own. Seems too much like Buckley.

>>323243

acknowledging it is a mistake, just move on.

>id:dfc565

delicious flat chest, lol

>Amanda Marcotte

I can't seem to find anything recent from Amanda involving penny arcade,i do see alot of murica election related politics on her feed and her most recent article or whatever she calls it

>>323200

Also look into how some of these affected gaming sites around the era, since publications were dying and funnelling to San Francisco during the 2010 period. It's when editors and writers got more and more roped into the SJWness if not hiding it better beforehand.

https://mega.nz/#!s88yQQzZ!hC-YVOEwUlnpRny-Qeh6LpgRXEQ4W0RVjxG_j2reY2U

There's Holiday Anon's most recent archive.

I didn't find anything in there myself that's relevant beyond what the aGGs we know about have done before/after.

Maybe some fresh eyes will see something.

Another update posted.

Searching for hitpieces on Penny Arcade written around that timeframe would be good too.

>>323242

>I disagree, because I know for a fact that Penny Arcade actively ignores their official forums.

The fat one and the bald one are EXCEPTIONS on not reading their forum (because they pay someone to do that for them, plus they have volunteer moderators to ban wrongthink), because Kurtz, Jachques, Willis, Buckley and the rest of the SOCJUST webcomic circle jerk LOVE getting their asshole licked by fans for their mediocre art and Doubleplusgoodthink on their respective comics' forums.

I watched the webcomic's rise, plateau, then slide into SOCJUST mediocrity in real time, but it didn't happen in a vacuum; the web was a different place back then, there wasn't social media platforms, save MySpace and LiveJournal, and Images boards were still new (but fun cesspits of unregulated speech), the best place for artists then to get feedback were web forums.

Acid, just delete the damned revoltfag posts arguing with you about off-topic bullshit. I'm tired of hearing these assholes already.

>>323268

Aye, I think this has been derailed about enough. I let him say his piece, and sure enough he's gloating about it back over there. Good faith = 0.

>>323272

http://4chan.org/pogostick/res/1607.html

>>323268

It's on topic because it taints it knowing that it's coming from him, and if he was just "one of us" he would be anon on here.

Two more updates from today's digging.

>>323274

http://endchan.net/ggrevolt//res/1607.html

>>323277

http://endchan.net/ggrevolt/res/1607.html

typo

>>323278

Someone filter endchan already

>>323279

Its fine, if they want to dig, let them dig. The more eyes the better.

Just try and keep the thread on topic.

2 more updates just added. Dan Hsu, formerly of EGM, had ties to this and works for Sony now.

>>323279

>purge the wrongthink

that's why this board is at < 50 right now.

Alright, so a WHOLE LOT OF SHIT is getting revealed right now.

Predating GamerGate there used to be a Games Media Watchdog site called VGMWatch.com. Originally named Gamejournalism.com.

http://vgmwatch.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi?p=1208

The URL has been suspended since before #GG.

The last Editor in Chief was David Gornoski.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080831020524/http://www.vgmwatch.com/

The site originally had Kyle Orland as it's Editor in Chief back in 2005.

https://web.archive.org/web/20051214031135/http://vgmwatch.com/?

Among its contributors was Dan "shoe" Hsu, before he fell to the Dark Side and was a hard charger for better ethics in the games media.

I had never heard of the site before this, but let's go deep.

>VGMW was a proper watchdog, even outing a major conflict of interest between IGN and Nintendo.

>VGMWatch.com has been able to confirm that IGN Nintendo editor Matt Casamassina is married to Golin Harris Vice President Edie Kissko. Golin Harris serves as Nintendo’s PR firm. Sources connected with both Golin Harris and IGN.com were able to validate this information. While VGMWatch has no interest in personal affairs, undisclosed conflicts of interest plaguing the game industry’s integrity cannot be ignored. To that end, there are several journalistic red flags surrounding the facts of this case.

http://archive.is/W2IkS

Then in 2007, Gornoski, who was the site's actual owner, replaced Orland as EIC. Gornoski is a capital-L Libertarian, capitalist, and political activist who used to write for WorldNetDaily years ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080902223410/http://vgmwatch.com/?p=1193

VGMW would shortly after find itself in hot water with the rest of the games media, especially from GameSetWatch.com.

You might recall that GSW are a partner site to:

>Gamasutra

>GDC

>IGF

http://archive.is/mECOZ

Oh yes. Vox Media had problems with a major games media industry watchdog site ran by an ex-journo Libertarian.

VGMW received heavy criticism from the industry over a plagiarism row from a VGMW contributor named Jim Webb, who was accused of taking content from Eurogamer for an article. GSW writers didn't even want the site linked on their other forums.

http://archive.is/hrjLw

to be continued

Personal reminder edit: GJP officially began in September of 2010.

>>323281

It's been this way for awhile now. What more is booting out the remaining dipshits do?

Good luck getting the SJWs out of Penny Arcade. It's an open secret that Jerry/Tycho is bisexual and has been since high school.

You may have noticed that it's always Mike/Gabe who really stands up for the stuff PA does that offends SJWs, while Jerry sits by. That's because Jerry basically is an SJW who happens to have struck gold in a partnership with a normal person.

If you want to try and free Mike from Jerry's influence, he'll speak his mind more often and quit apologizing for calling things how they are, but there's no way to do that without splitting up PA.

>>323280

>Dan Hsu, formerly of EGM, had ties to this and works for Sony now.

Doing what for Sony? Sr Mgr Partner Alliance

>LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/115616276

Partner Alliances Manager, Publisher Relations

Job description

The Third Party Relations team at SCEA is responsible for every facet of the relationship between PlayStation and its Publisher and Developer partners in the US, Canada and LATAM. The Partner Alliance team, a division within Third Party Relations, manages all marketing efforts against promoting our partners games and content. The Partner Alliance team mission is to provide best in class marketing solutions that raise exposure and awareness for our partners content by leveraging the power of Sony’s ecosystem resulting in increased purchase intent and mind share for our partner’s content and the PlayStation platform. The team services over 200 accounts across publisher and developer relations delivering over $700MM+ in marketing value to our partners.

The Partner Alliance Manager, Publisher Relations will own several top tier publisher accounts and lead all marketing strategy, planning, and execution for those key accounts. Working side-by-side with the publisher account teams, the Partner Alliances Manager is the subject matter expert on all marketing initiatives for SCEA.

•Own all day-to-day marketing initiatives for 30+ game launches a year across all assigned accounts. Assigned accounts include a minimum of two top-tier, five mid-tier, and five low-tier accounts each with a portfolio of one to fifteen game releases each year.

•Manage the relationship between the Publisher Relations group with all internal global marketing stakeholders to ensure that accounts are properly leveraged to enforce overall brand goals while also clearly articulating the value of the marketing support provided to publishers.

cutting it short to qualifications:

•Excellent written and verbal communication skills are required. Must be able to work effectively and professionally in internal cross-functional groups, and outside entities. Must be decisive yet tactful, driven yet considerate. Must excel with follow up, be proactive, and consistent, must execute targeted communication.

•Requires proficiency in Microsoft Office: Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Adobe suite: Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat. Quicktime & Windows Media. Familiarity with using web-based applications including FTP sites.

•At least 7+ years in a similar marketing capacity. A passion for console gaming and/or working in the video game industry is required.

Further Hsu reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hsu

Personal Analysis: Shoe successfully transitioned from EGM reviewer (when it was cool) to Editor-In-Chief, off to digital space when it was clear digital media was going to kill print periodicals, finally into a major console position at Sony: the endgame for all would-be fanboys. He displays remarkable awareness and flexibility, and strong self-preservation instincts. Attempted to battle conflicts of interest early in his career, but did so in a non-committed way that earned him backlash for his limp-wristed ethics. Upton Sinclair, he wasn't. Apparently he ran into Penny Arcade in 2005, where they lampooned him for a puff-piece he did with a Microsoft bigwig on the XBox 360, so he may have had a grudge against them when it came time to strike back over Dickwolves in 2010.

I propose that Dan Hsu had SJW tendencies before it was codified, and readily embraced it when failing to maintain strong ethics despite seemingly good intentions. Was further pushed into their corner by PA, hence choosing sides before lines were ever drawn.

>>323307

Interpreting this is a little tough; Penny Arcade used to be hard-hitting, no-holds-barred commentary on the industry, because they didn't have a dozen employees or fundraisers holding them emotionally hostage from saying wrongthink. It's clear they did not think highly of game journalists even back then, so it looks like they're praising Hsu for being critical of the XBawks in the 2006 comic interview. Still, the Microsoft employee is dismissive and still shilling it up regardless of Hsu's tone, and his readers felt he was too negative of the Xbawks, to the point of him needing to publicly defend it twice.

I'm not sure if Hsu would have been offended by this comic or not. I'm leaning towards offended, simply because critics talking about other critics generally hurts feelings. Usually the guy with the last word in(Penny Arcade in this scenario) would be unhurt. Hsu's meteoric rise across his career coupled with drinking the easy-path SocJus Kool-Aid the past public insult probably triple-motivated him to strike back with passion on the Dickwolves issue.

I was fucking around on Youtube and stumbled across this which I found interesting.

https://youtu.be/58QmafWvY4c?t=1m15s

It's a video from three years ago where Gabe and Tycho shit on Kotaku and discuss the PC scolds. If I hadn't known the game being referenced and didn't check the date the conversation they're having may as well have taken place yesterday.

It's not directly related to the digging OP here, but it's interesting to hear them speak about this.

>>323302

>Good luck getting the SJWs out of Penny Arcade

Penny Arcade jumped the shark 15 years ago when fruitcakes like batjew started prancing around. The shift from PA being a reflection of gaming culture to manipulating gaming culture actually began in the late 90's.

>>323319

>I know they're far from instigating and hard hitting as they were years ago, due to muh employees

If the business model is so fragile and the culture so toxic that truth can not be spoken, then the PA crew needs to go find real jobs.

They should have been instantly and loudly on the side of GG the day 5 guys hit the radar. Half-hearted, veiled "support" months after the fact is useless.

Minor update:

It looks like VGMWatch went down, with its domain first camped by an Online Pharmacy site, sometime right around January 24th of 2012.

The last updates to the site were from October 28, 2011. It was seemingly abandoned without notice to readers.

Taking a look at the site at the end of 2010, after GJP had come into being, you could almost swear it was a #GG operation.

https://web.archive.org/web/20081219220656/http://www.vgmwatch.com/

Not the kind of thing the clique would want hanging around.

Potential Connections

http://archive.is/CKcGx

>Scott Madin

http://archive.is/k9rin

Just stumbled onto a literal Fedoralord who cites Maddy Myers and Amanda Marcott, the first two journos to jump on Dickwolves, as "friends" while also citing McEwan in a blogpiece from 2013.

He shat on PA over the Dickwolves in 2011.

http://archive.is/SPkIV

One thing that was pointed out to me was that the Shakesville author seemed to have a good working knowledge of Penny Arcade, and wrote with a masculine tone. Someone more experienced than I am with digging this stuff suspected the author to be a male betanodder with lots of knowledge about Penny Arcade and connections to the people who covered it, especially Maddy Myers.

The Fedora had something to say:

>I’ve been a Penny Arcade reader for over a decade (and yes, that means I’ve passed over a lot of problematic material without comment in that time, for various reasons; that’s not something I’m proud of), I attended and enjoyed PAX East last year, I’m a huge fan of their charity work, and I’ve offered praise for Tycho’s relatively thoughtful engagement with difficult issues in the past. So I would like to believe — and I do have some hope — that they will follow up appropriately on this, educate themselves on rape culture, and react more thoughtfully to criticism in the future. I don’t know how likely it is, but I’d like to believe it. (I mean, while we’re at it, I’d also like for Gearbox to have left Duke Nukem Forever to rot, so…)

Here he thanks Maddy Myers for her hitpiece in the Boston Phoenix. Note: Madin LIVES in Boston.

http://archive.is/m8LOL

Other pieces he did on PAX and Dickwolves:

http://archive.is/aG3Il

Notable quote: "I’m still friends with a number of people who regularly attend PAX, some of whom are indie devs who exhibit there."

http://archive.is/rOQLq

http://archive.is/xL5Le

http://archive.is/G92Rt

Edit: His blog content is also cross-posted to Shakesville. Look at the bottom of archive xL5Le. That means he's familiar with their site and its formatting.

Edit: UPDATE

Connections with Maddy Myers

Twitter

http://archive.is/WQdDc

Buys her music

http://archive.is/JbPWF

191 conversations on Klear social media

http://archive.is/N6pVM

The #1 person Maddy Myers talked to.

http://archive.is/1E04N

He's a FemFreq backer. She is as well:

http://archive.is/7Cf4B

Both are connected to Patrick Lindsey

http://archive.is/rqPhM

Note: Madin joined Twitter in December 2010.

http://archive.is/aQXrd

An author at The Border House along with out old friends Samantha Allen and Mattie Brice.

http://archive.is/AqKUn

He has a nice chat with McEwan back in 2013

http://archive.is/gqaXn

He's close with Patrick Lindsey, co writer of Depression Quest and talks with David Gallant.

http://archive.is/YPpzd

HIS FOLLOWING AND FOLLOWERS LIST FROM TWITTER

http://pastebin.com/jtTrfhj7

NOTE THAT HE BOTH FOLLOWS AND IS FOLLOWED BY LITERALLY WHO'S @Primeape account.

Also both lists are a cavalcade of cancer. Lots of journos, tech writers, indie devs, feminists and trannies. Everyone from Leigh Alexander to Alex Lipshitz is in there.

And, surprising no one, he's a major aGGro.

http://archive.is/rYoWr

>>323355

Scott Madin

2013 Depression Quest (Video Game) (special thanks)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6863480/ https://archive.is/IeT6A

Scott Madin was one of the people who took down Tentacle Bento. This blog credits him for first raising the alarm about it.

https://archive.is/TrWsu

g+ page

https://archive.is/yydVZ

worked for Cecropia, "The Personality Video Game Company", which produced a game called The Act.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160306062032/http://secropia.com/

The Act sucked its own dick pretending that Dragon's Lair was a new thing in 2007 and that flash animations were a new thing. The marketing was very similar to that of the modern "art games" that have no gameplay: "Let's do what Newgrounds did ten years ago, claim that we did it first, and say it's the best thing ever and everything else is shit." They at least tried to make it look good.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070212004112/http://www.theactgame.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160306102839/http://www.theactgame.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20070513075208/http://www.theactgame.com/board_of_directors.html

The game had a huge development team.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070513075524/http://www.theactgame.com/dev_team.html

Cecropia founder Omar Khudari was co-founder of Ibtikar Venture Partners which invested in Middle Eastern startups

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/the-ideal-venture-capitalist--207319.html

Ibtikar had an "involuntary dissolution by court order"

http://www.bizapedia.com/ma/IBTIKAR-VENTURE-PARTNERS-LLC.html

Amal Alayan of MIT

Co-Founder and Managing Member, Ibtikar Venture Partners, LLC

Board Member, AMIDEAST Inc

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Amal-Alayan/88358263

AMIDEAST looks like a private CIA. Funded by Saudi Aramco, Lockheed Martin, an oil company, Qatar, and an Arab Shaikh.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=AMIDEAST

MIT’s Arab Students’ Organization went to terrorist-occupied East Jerusalem and told the youths there who have been raised on terrorist propaganda since Oslo to apply to American universities to "take your culture to the leaders of tomorrow" and "change the image of Palestine in America." Amal Alayan hosted the event.

http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N65/middleeast.html

Bump for digging thread. More updates soon.

>>323474

> EDGE Magazine is where Leigh Alexander and her boss (Simon Carless) came from before working at Gamasutra.

http://pastebin.com/zMs3vG8v

Firing of Tim Langdell

In 2009, the IGDA fired board member Tim Langdell of defunct studio Edge Games for threatening to sue any developer whose game had the word "Edge" in the title, such as Electronic Arts and its game Mirror's Edge.

Andy Chalk, Tim Langdell Loses IGDA Membership, The Escapist forum post, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.238788-Tim-Langdell-Loses-IGDA-Membership

KPexEA, Tim Langdell & the IGDA, Slashdot submission, 2009, http://beta.slashdot.org/submission/1050893/tim-langdell-the-igda

Langdell claimed that Edge Magazine publisher Future Publishing had ordered Langdell to pursue these claims under the terms of a previous trademark sharing agreement.

http://www.archive.pls/articles/2011-07-21-tim-langdell-refutes-trademark-troll-tag

Edge Magazine had anti-gamer articles in 2003:

* April 2002 cover story: Videogames are pointless. Discuss. Why academics and the mass media see you as a silly child playing silly games.

* April 2003 cover story: Bored to death of videogames? Gaming reaches its mid-life crisis.

* January 2004 cover story Mainstream: Why the days of hardcore gamers are numbered.

Persons allegedly involved:

* Keith Stewart (Dec 1995 - Aug 2005) - Contributor to [[The Guardian]]

* Jon Jordan (Feb 1998 - Dec 2007) - Editor-at-large of [[Pocket Gamer]]

* Kieron Gillen (Mar 2002 - Mar 2007) - Co-founder [[Rock, Paper, Shotgun]]

* Simon Parkin (Jan 2003 - Dec 2007) - Wrote an anti-GG article for [[The New Yorker]]

* Jin Rossignol (2003-2005) - Co-founder [[Rock, Paper, Shotgun]]

* John Walker (Sep 2003 - Dec 2006) - Co-founder [[Rock, Paper, Shotgun]]

* Tim Edwards (Jan 2004 - Mar 2007) - Owner of [[PCGamesN]]

* Brandon Boyer (June 2004 - Dec 2006) - Chairman of [[Indie Game Fund]]

* John Hicks (Jun 2006 - May 2007) - Former editor-in-chief of [[Xbox Magazine (UK)]]

* Ste Curran - Co-owner of [[Agency for Games]]

* Leigh Alexander - columnist (2011-present) when her politics did a 180

* Matthew Devereux - edge writer (2006-2007) also wrote a 2008 CSMonitor article The Moral Cost of Video Games decrying violence in video games http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0107/p09s02-coop.html

This is according to a dead image, not confirmed

The only name match to this thread is Leigh Alexander.

>>323474

>"gamers need to die" idea and general SJW-ish "modern art" interpretations of games.

Tangential to the thread's purpose, but someone said "games as art" bullshit so I fel compeled to re-re-repost the "Banishment of Beauty" playlist for those who haven't watched it yet, because it's important to understand why we fight, because this has happened before to "fine art":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGX0_0VL06U&list=PL619ED61282CD714E

Watch the playlist, it's an hour long, but it's split into four easily-digestible 15-minute chunks. It shows what happened when "fine art" was defiled into "modern art", could happen to videogames, if we let it.

It's important to understand when some progressive pretentious goony-beareded rainbowed-haired SanFran-stereotypical hipster faggot says that "games must be like art" and "have to grow up"; what he's actually saying by "art" he means "shit smeared on a canvas MODERN art" and by "grown up" he means "fun extracted to make room for a (progressive) message".

"Modern Art" is art that isn't beautiful

"Videogame Art" is games that aren't fun

>>323474

poke Usher on this, not sure when he joined the list, but your scenario outlined in this post might strike a chord with him

>>323532

>poke Usher on this, not sure when he joined the list, but your scenario outlined in this post might strike a chord with him

Any updates on this?

Bumping this because new information is coming out via a cross-channel dig.

>>329451

If this is the dickwolf thread you're referring to during the /v/ thread. Here's the archived /v/ thread that may or may not contain duplicate digging you posted there. I'm just posting it here just in case. I've also posted it in the ESRBusted thread when I didn't find this thread. Either way here you go.

Archived link from gamergate + nys thread over at /v/ on january/09/2017, containing info regarding the colluding clique and christine love.

https://archive.is/PAfam

and

https://archive.is/2hyqr

>>323302

What, no mention about the rumors one of the PA guys (the bald one, I think) was banging some of their groupies, and their folding over to the proto-SJWs was due to this being used as blackmail material?

>>329506

>What, no mention about the rumors

Never heard the rumor. Got a link to more info?

>>323353

Beautiful work, Acid.

Vaguely reminiscent of that "Emoji Analysis" joke on South Park, not that it makes it any less valid/useful. This is an excellent tool in the fight against journalistic sock-puppeting.

Bump

Note to self: Investigate www.gamejournalism.com

>>323202

Patrick Klepek was in on Dickwolves, too.

Writing for GiantBomb in 2013, Klepek lists "A Series of Responses to Mike Krahulik's Recent Comments," clearly referencing Dickwolves.

http://archive.is/CrLHo

Of note:

- He links to Damion Schubert's "good cop" blog entry.

- He links to Christine Love's "open letter" (http://archive.is/9NVwA). Love, as you'll remember, was dating Patricia Hernandez at the time of Hernandez's coverage of "Hate Plus" (notably, Klepek also links to coverage of the game here).

- He links to Lesley Kinzel's take (http://archive.is/zEktY). Kinzel is a lesser-known figure, but was certainly critical of GamerGate at its start, and had the attention of Critical Distance (http://archive.is/iDjYN), and IGF judge Mattie "death to gamer(s)" Brice (http://archive.is/wTX6t, and by the way, you may want to look into this post a bit more, since there are more familiar names there).

In 2017, he said that Dickwolves was "eye-opening." Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people saw GamerGate as the next Dickwolves controversy.

http://archive.is/TLzui

>>331556 Nice research!

I know my digging's a bit all over the place here, but each item I look into leads me somewhere else, and I've just got a lot of interconnected stuff that I didn't think would show up in the capacity that it did. I'd suggest that people use this more as a starting point for their own research. As such, I've tried to compile my ideas in a way that they're somewhat comprehensible, but… your mileage may vary.

Went back to look at a source article from the initial Dickwolves Debacle.

https://archive.fo/q14M2

>Corvus Elrod

- Interviewed, primarily.

- He later came out as trans, taking the name Branwen Zakariasen. There's a blog about their transition (https://bhaloidam.wordpress.com/), but I found little else in the way of gaming.

>Dierdra "Squinky" Kiai

- Noted as boycotting PAX 2011 over Dickwolves.

- None other than Nathan Grayson wrote a puff piece on her in 2014 (http://archive.is/SivEC)

- Has ties to Maya "Legobutts"

Felix Kramer and Mattie Brice,

as well as Silverstring Media (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1075&v=X0EZl2Aq-8o)

>Courtney Stanton

- Previously covered in >>323202, but there's some things missing

- Did a "troll data analysis" of comments received in the wake of her response to Dickwolves (http://web.archive.org/web/20110211193546/http://kirbybits.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/here-is-a-project-troll-data-analysis/)

- Stanton, for a time, became a symbol of a woman confronting "toxic gamer culture," before Anita Sarkeesian effectively took the crown during GamerGate. Most interesting was a piece in Ada (a publication that also published a piece by Adrienne Shaw) that namedropped her, written by Mia Consalvo of DiGRA (http://archive.is/qywv6).

- Unrelated but interesting: Stanton wrote a Storify about a guy who made a dumb joke about Leigh Alexander not following him on Twitter, after going at him for being "creepy," of course. Look at the context, it's fucking retarded. (http://archive.is/nK11t)

Also, on a hunch, I took a second look at all the names who were thanked in the credits for Depression Quest:

Tom Smith

Sos Sosowski

Andy Moore

Patrick Dawson

Cameron Kunzelman

Kyle Baker

Edmund Lewry

Terry Cavanagh

Jonathan Wright

Martin Pilkington

Torbjørn G. Dahle

Ben Johnston

Michael Kwan

Gregory Kinneman

```Nathan Grayson```

Mary Augstkains

```Scott Madin```

Ichiro Lambe

Michel McBride-Charpentier

Cheryl Trooskin-Zoller

Phoebe Seiders

Caitlin Blank

Amanda Cosmos

Graham Davis

Ben Abraham

Tam Toucan

Johnicholas Hines

Ashton Raze (real name Olivia White)

```Brendan Keogh```

Alan Williamson

Alex Androski (he died just a few months ago, RIP)

Matthew Duhamel

```Deirdra Kiai```

Danny O'Dwyer

Tom Whitaker

Jason Bakker

Ross Fowkes

Cha Holland

Ghostworks

Mitchell Sutton

Ryan S. Casey

George Shirai

Chris "Leddybear" Leddy

Edmund Adderly

David Carlton

Alex May

Cale Bradbury

```Christine Love```

Robin Ward

Rachel Helps

Kevin Slackie

Jon 'Meroka' Biggin

K. Adam White

Jason R. Nally

Amanda Williams

Gary Szuslik Jr.

Dustin Astarita

Alex Koti

Lew Civ

Aaron Michael Kearns

```Ian Cheong```

Joakim Sandberg

Kylie Szymesko

Christopher Juriansz

Terence Wiggins

Barton Mothersill

The names that were bolded had involvement in Dickwolves, be it writing hitpieces or contributing to them in some form. Also, these were just links that I could find, based on research posted here, and my own findings. More names could be marked off as we look deeper into this, but as of now, this is the list.

>>331560

lol, I fucked up my formatting. I can't into 8chan.

For posterity's sake, I'm gonna recommend these future topics to look into (if I don't get around to posting about them later), because I think they're relevant:

- #1reasonwhy (START: https://archive.is/Er4wa)

- #1reasontobe (START: http://archive.is/quYCD, https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1018080/)

- The "Why So Serious?" panel at PAX Aus 2013

Going through this, and having had more sleep since my last dig post, I'm seeing that the ideological conversion of the gaming press was a gradual thing. It was attempted back in 2007 when SA made the comic about Jade Raymond promoting Ass Creed, with some in the press trying to blow it up (notably, people have largely forgotten about it, because it was a non-issue). Dickwolves (the first time) was probably the origin point of when these ideologies got injected. Hell, I remember that was the first time I'd ever seen the term "rape culture." Then came the Jennifer Hepler incident (https://archive.is/xB32b), which added to the pile. And a few months later, Anita Sarkeesian's Kickstarter happened (of note, Sarkeesian already had some media connections, through promotion of her OG Tropes vs. Women series by outlets like Feministing [https://archive.fo/1fcoc] and LA Weekly [http://archive.is/6lVPh]).

The way the press closed ranks around Anita, was something that we wouldn't see again until Dickwolves came back up, and in the aftermath of that, we saw PAX make some changes, like the addition of the Diversity Lounge, and the more bullshit panels about "inclusion tactics" and "Jesus God, being a woman in the industry is literally the worst thing ever." Which is kind of funny, because the press blasted PAX for being "tone-deaf" after it was first announced, and they see it as essential to PAX today. But there was a clear consensus at that point: the gaming community was "toxic," and it needed to be browbeaten a few more times until it respected women more. And then GamerGate came, and once again, we saw the press circle the wagons, and by that time, it was over. "Gamer culture" was beyond saving, and needed to die.

And probably the most important part? Almost always, you only saw one perspective in the press throughout these incidents. No dissenting viewpoints, hell, any dissenting views were harassment. Hell, Stephen Totilo said of Sarkeesian critics:

>And, yes, we have not given prominent exposure on Kotaku to her critics, some of whom just attack her outright and invite being ignored but others who do find exceptions or flaws in her argument. The latter is something we intend to get to on the site.

(http://archive.is/BzBcU)

Of course, that never came to pass. Because, I think, an agreement was made to moralize and monopolize the views that were presented by the games press. This is why we saw politics start to make their way into what would otherwise be neutral coverage of stories—because a narrative had to be established and maintained.

Look at what Patrick Klepek wrote in 2012 after saying that he didn't consider himself to be a feminist: http://archive.is/cn9ql Just saying "I'm not a feminist" was enough for people to react, and him to write the post. And now… well, I think you know how he turned out.

Here's another interesting Totilo moment from there:

>It’s odd to even be talking about this in the open, since one of the things Kotaku (then MTV) editor Stephen Totilo asked me to do was keep my political beliefs out of my writing and reporting.

If this was said before his Kotaku days, this would put the comment some time prior to April 2009. My, how things have changed.

Something also worth mentioning:

The Dickwolves comic was published on August 11, 2010.

GameJournoPros was created on August 31, 2010.

>>331561

Holy shit, I overlooked something.

That Feministing article (http://archive.is/eiYoX) that Anita was interviewed in?

SHE FUCKING NAMEDROPPED DICKWOLVES, WITH THE MADDY MYERS HITPIECE, NO LESS

As far as I'm aware, this is THE first time we've ever seen her talk about anything related to gaming controversies or gamer culture.

Tinfoil hat theory: Could this have, in some way, inspired Tropes vs. Women in Video Games…?

pardon me if this was posted already:

https://archive.is/kY9UY article from geekfeminism wikia

just noticed the pratfall timeline is in the first reply, nvm.

SJW hives can be useful for intel.