d0bd77 No.309156 [Last50 Posts]
We have a bunch of small Wiki-related happenings at once so let's make a general thread to discuss Wikibullshit. Here is some of what's been going on:
* Rationalpedia vandalbins Ryulong. Previous thread: >>308455
* Google Knowledge Graph to use Wikipedia as a source
* Wikipedia bans three editors for supporting NPOV on Frank Gaffney's BLP
* TVTropes bans nonfeminists
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d0bd77 No.309157
Ryulong was vandalbinned on RationalWiki. Previous thread: >>308455
Ryulong is now getting his fix by edit warring with the administrators on Digimon and Bleach wikias.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3vwjwo/on_rationalwiki_ryulong_is_now_indefinitely/cxrf3rz
RationalWiki is asking us to help them fix the article.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/GGdiscussion/comments/3wb6rd/fix_rationalwikis_gamergate_article/
Vordrak tried that and was preemptively blocked as a known problem user on the advice of Gooniepunk who claimed to be "very familiar" with the activities that got Vordrak blocked on Wikipedia.
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&diff=1587798&oldid=1587677
Vordrak went to KiA and complained.
https://archive.is/8vXBZ
EDiot Michaeldsuarez published an email from Vordrak seeking information on RWers Gooniepunk and Typhoon, and Vordrak wrote an article accusing RW admin David Gerard of supporting pedophilia and threatening to out Gooniepunk, proving the RWers right about him.
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&diff=1588281&oldid=1588279
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Typhoon#Since_you_were_an_ED_user.2C_I_owe_you_a_heads-up
http://matthewhopkinsnews.com/?p=2855
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d0bd77 No.309158
Google and Wikipedia are teaming up to base a knowledge engine on the data in Wikipedia. Weirdly, a research group at Dresden Technical University scrubbed its website of the mention that Wikidata is an input for Google Knowledge Graph. SEO people are already trying to come up with ways to abuse the system.
From /v/:
NEW WIKISHIT: THINKSERIOUS EDITION
READ THIS FIRST
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-12-02/Op-ed
SHORTER VERSION
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/08/wikidata_special_report/
WPO THREAD, Start here:
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7118#p165643
GOOGLE EMPLOYEES/WMF BOARD MEMBERS COVERING SHIT UP?
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7118#p166273
WIKIDATA BEING ABUSED FOR SEO?
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7118#p165934
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d0bd77 No.309160
From the offtopic general:
> If anyone hasn't been following the Frank Gaffney stuff on /r/WikiInAction, the cancer there has been worse than Gamergate. Someone rewrote the article to be a transparent hit piece and the admins are banning everyone who questions the neutrality of the change as "sockpuppets". They just banned two editors who hadn't been involved in the area in months because someone accused a new editor of being one of them. Compare the treatment of this BLP to Zoe Quinn!
Here's the story:
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3vxgj9/the_gaffney_edit_war_continues_after_donald_trump/
> The edit wars over Frank Gaffney and his Center for Security Policy has started up again in light of an poll cited by Donald Trump that the Center did on Muslims in the United States. Regardless of whether you like Gaffney or the poll, he is being bashed in the media by lazy reporters who are lifting text from the extremely biased Wikipedia pages on him and the Center.
Here's the background from WiA:
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3q758l/the_frank_gaffney_edit_war/
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d0bd77 No.309161
TV Tropes is banning users for being antifeminist.
Evidence:
http://imgur.com/gallery/XQiL6
WiA thread:
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3wk458/xpost_rsocialjusticeinaction_tvtropes_mods_caught/
Does anyone know if Orain/AllTheTropes ever recovered from their DNS hijacking? Their Facebook page has not updated since they were hit.
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d0bd77 No.309207
>>309161
TV Tropes is a shit.
Anything involving rape makes me cringe because the naked agenda pushing by their feels-based vagina cult.
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d0bd77 No.309215
>>309161
>TV Tropes is banning users for being antifeminist.
They've been doing that for many years.
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d0bd77 No.309268
Salvidrim posted something to WiA last week:
> Kirill & Keilana (ArbCom candidates) appointed to Wikimedia DC board of Directiors as Prez & VP
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3vtf1e/kirill_keilana_arbcom_candidates_appointed_to/
Is this only plain news or a hint to dig here? DC is a wretched hive of scum and villainy that is full of awful people who would want to influence the 'pedia for nefarious reasons. On the other hand, Salvidrim has spoken highly of Kirill in the past and I have nothing on Keilana.
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d0bd77 No.309274
I remember having fun reading TVTropes. Now it's just another tumblr clone.
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d0bd77 No.309314
Oh wow I stop paying attention for a couple weeks and this happens.
Friendly reminder that
>you will never be Ryulong
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d0bd77 No.309320
Looks like Wikipedia just keeps on getting worse. That abusive hypocritical anti-GG piece of shit Gamaliel just got elected to a 1-year arbcom term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2015#Results
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d0bd77 No.309358
>>309207
Yeah, that was the first beachhead in the SJW takeover. It seems so obvious in hindsight.
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d0bd77 No.309366
WiA had a short post about the ArbCom GMO case closing. Within 24 hours a handful of new Reddit accounts showed up giving their pro-GMO and anti-GMO opinions. A regular is challenging them all on their newness, which is something that WiA complains about when Wikipedia does it.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3wm2w6/gmo_case_closes_with_four_topic_bans/
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d0bd77 No.309403
>>309161
>Question the great god SocJus? Banned. Also, you should not be allowed in society, subhuman.
They aren't even trying to sugarcoat it. Social justice warriors are fucking nazis and they control everything now.
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d0bd77 No.309450
After getting vandal binned and claiming to be Leaving and Never Coming Back, Dragondragon has returned already, since one of the RationalWiki mods (surprisingly not David Gerard) had unblocked him a few days ago, retardedly proclaiming that Ryulong "really is gone this time" as the reason.
Dragondragon was - surprise! - incapable of not staring at Gamergate crap on RationalWiki, and he found GethN7's recent scrutinizing of RW's 'List of Gamergate claims' to be "offensive" so he just had to come back and write a massive wall of text raging about it.
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Gamergate_claims&diff=prev&oldid=1590373
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Gamergate_claims&diff=prev&oldid=1590400
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ryulong
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d0bd77 No.309456
The same people behind the destruction of the Cultural Marxism article (which formerly referred to a documented school of philosophy that was different from the modern usage) are planning to merge Cultural Marxism with the article on Cultural Bolshevism. On what grounds? Cultural Bolshevism was a Nazi propaganda term in the 1930s, so they can use Wikipedia to call anyone using the term "Cultural Marxism" a Nazi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_Bolshevism
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d0bd77 No.309463
>>309366
Except for one they weren't new accounts. They're apparently accounts that only post about GMOs and whenever a subreddit mentions "GMOs", they show-up to promote them. Spooky.
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d0bd77 No.309549
>>309456
That's not wrong though. That's exactly where this stupid bullcrap originated from.
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d0bd77 No.309714
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d0bd77 No.309740
>>309549
>That's exactly where this stupid bullcrap originated from
Do you know any history nigger? I don't like commies but bolsheviks wouldn't take any of this marxist/SJW bullshit, most of them considered gays to be degenerates and a product of the bourgeois society that needed to be "cured" by sending them to die in a gulag
They gave zero fucks about feminism and wouldn't have laughed at faggot terms like 'microaggression'
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d0bd77 No.309863
>>309740
I think hes saying that cultural Marxism was used as a weapon against the west.
Theres a neat video of some KGB dude explaining that was their plan to erode western societies during the cold war by destroying religion and the family unit. And setting women against men, gays against straights, atheists against religious popele, blacks against whites etc.
We do know that feminist and gay rights organizations (for example) sprang from the failed of communist parties in Europe and the US in the 70's.
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d0bd77 No.309875
Till be interesting to see
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d0bd77 No.310010
>>309863
I wanna see this.
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d0bd77 No.310013
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d0bd77 No.310138
The retards at ANI are claiming that "cripple" and "bastard" are as offensive as "nigger" and are going after a veteran for using the words correctly and in context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Offensive_language
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d0bd77 No.310139
>>310013
>love to watch Yuri.
AAAAAH YEAAAAAAAH!
Although seriously, the shit ex-Comrade Yuri laid out in those vids is scarily accurate (Also, I love his "Useful eediots!")
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d0bd77 No.310259
Northbysouthbaranof is railroading another editor with false accusations. It's so outrageous that several newbies are pushing back but the admins are holding the line for North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#Nocturnalnow
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d0bd77 No.310386
>>310013
>Implying you have to be a polscifag to like yuri.
>>310138
Are the legitimately going after people who use those words?why not just wordfilter it to illegitimate child and disabled if the mere presence of those words offends them so much.
>>310139
Dick is Hard as Diamonds because of this
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d0bd77 No.310574
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d0bd77 No.310700
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d0bd77 No.310702
>>310698
Worse still; anyone want to bet that these four fucks conspire to get Ryulong welcomed back with open arms the second he can appeal his ban? Let alone further fucking prevent ANYONE from stopping the shithead from resuming his reign of terror/retaliating against his enemies who got him banned?
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d0bd77 No.310705
>>310702
I don't think Ryulong is ever coming back to Wikipedia to be honest. He burned too many bridges and all the fights he's gotten into on rationalwiki only seem indicate that he's headed further towards a mental breakdown. The original group of POV pushers don't really need to come back anyway because the current cabal is doing a just fine job keeping the article locked in stasis. MarkBernstein, Aquillion, Jorm, Artw, Strongjam, Dumuzid, Woodroar, and the obvious sockpuppets PeterTheFourth and ForbiddenRocky have worked tirelessly to maintain their propaganda piece and make everyone interested in a neutral, encyclopedia article fight tooth and nail to change even a single word.
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d0bd77 No.310706
>>310705
Hah, and just now I noticed one of them removed the "This article is outdated…" tag a couple days ago even though the article is indeed still missing a bunch of recent stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gamergate_controversy&diff=696572388
I guess when a "discussion dies" that means you're free to change something contentious.
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d0bd77 No.310962
The WMF board fired James Heilman, who goes by Doc James on the wiki. No word yet on a cause.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7237
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d0bd77 No.311150
ArbCom banned administrator Soap from Wikipedia for alleged harassment off-wiki, which is not in ArbCom's jurisdiction, based on secret evidence. The rumor mill says Soap got in a flamewar with GorillaWarfare on IRC and she made it an ArbCom issue, but I don't know how true that is. Maybe someone will leak logs.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3yqkos/soap_admin_in_ostensibly_good_standing_suddenly/
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d0bd77 No.311342
Soap evaded his ban and accused MJ94 of trying to hack his account.
> Hey do you think Ive forgotten you tried to compromise my admin account? Forget it, I dont want your "sympathy". Youre just mad your easy prey is gone. Go away. Hand Sanitizer Bottle (talk) 08:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=697403719
> Stop, please, with the crocodile tears. You tried to compromise my admin account as soon as I went "weak". Get out of Wikipedia now. IStandwhenIP (talk) 18:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=697462405
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d0bd77 No.311360
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d0bd77 No.311420
>>311360
I'm really interested in this one. Devil's Advocate was a force for good who kept Wikipedia's increasingly biased and corrupt administration honest.
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d0bd77 No.311422
>>311360
Also I notice GorillaWarfare actually recused herself this time.
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d0bd77 No.311425
>>311360
Also it's real fucking interesting that this happens the very day that that corrupt anti-GG piece of shit Gamaliel comes in for the 2016 ArbCom period.
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d0bd77 No.311434
>>311425
> Also it's real fucking interesting that this happens the very day that that corrupt anti-GG piece of shit Gamaliel comes in for the 2016 ArbCom period. You think it's a vendetta?
TDA presented evidence in the ArbCom case against Gamaliel and other admins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate#Statement_by_The_Devil.27s_Advocate
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d0bd77 No.311435
>>311425
> Also it's real fucking interesting that this happens the very day that that corrupt anti-GG piece of shit Gamaliel comes in for the 2016 ArbCom period.
TDA presented evidence in the ArbCom case against Gamaliel and other admins. You think it's a vendetta?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate#Statement_by_The_Devil.27s_Advocate
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d0bd77 No.311447
Does any one have a bullet point list of bad faith wikipedians and details from arbcom? I think 2016 we need to strike Wikipedia harder than ever on all fronts we need to spread word of corrupt actors like gorillawarfare and gamaliel
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d0bd77 No.311450
>>311434
I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. This IP user's comment was apt:
>I think the more likely reason this is secret is because our new social justice Arbs are calling something harassment which normal people would not consider harassment. How many more wrongthink bans shall we expect? I'm disgusted that some of these power hungry bullies were "voted" in. 70.56.27.239 (talk) 23:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Naturally, the first thing one of the cocksuckers on the other side does is assume that they're sockpuppeting. "Assume Good Faith" seems to apply to everything except admins.
>>311447
GorillaWarfare's only real misconduct that I'm aware of anyway was failing to recuse herself in the gamergate arbcom case back in Dec 2014 while she was regularly condemning GG from her twitter account.
Gamaliel on the other hand could have a whole page of his own misconduct on around the GG topic area alone.
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d0bd77 No.311456
>>311447
> Does any one have a bullet point list of bad faith wikipedians and details from arbcom?
There was such a list on Wikia and they deleted it on Jimbo's orders, which was at the request of of 5_albert_square. A few people saved backups.
http://pastebin.com/S3hJytxY
> I think 2016 we need to strike Wikipedia harder than ever on all fronts we need to spread word of corrupt actors like gorillawarfare and gamaliel
WikiInAction has been documenting problems but the stories are not taking off.
>>311450
> GorillaWarfare's only real misconduct that I'm aware of anyway was failing to recuse herself in the gamergate arbcom case back in Dec 2014 while she was regularly condemning GG from her twitter account.
She also had been part of a botting group that spammed the hashtag early on. Another member of the group ran the Atheism+ block bot. Not the most honest people to be around.
http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/06/03/twitter-bot-army-the-story-of-botally/
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d0bd77 No.311520
So does anyone actually know what they're attempting to call harassment that got The Devil's Advocate blocked? This IP user seems to be aware but try as I might I can't figure out either why he was banned from Wikipedia or Wikipediocracy.
>I know what the so-called evidence is. It isn't hard to find and it certainly isn't anything to be banned over.
>>311456
Oh wow, what a piece of shit.
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d0bd77 No.311524
>>311520
The IP might think the information is not hard to find, but nobody else on WP, WiA, Wikipediocracy, or here seems to be aware of it. Whatever they have found, it might be unrelated to the ban.
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d0bd77 No.311534
>>311520
Haha, and sure enough, that IP is now blocked for "not being here to build an encyclopedia". Guess they said a few too many things that cut too close to home for some. I don't suppose the other IPs commenting with a less harsh tone will have anything done to them though.
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d0bd77 No.311537
>>311534
> Haha, and sure enough, that IP is now blocked for "not being here to build an encyclopedia". Guess they said a few too many things that cut too close to home for some.
It seems like it. Its last edit was revdel'd by the blocking admin as "flagrantly unconstructive". I wonder how that comment compared to the usual screaming of Mark, North, or BMK.
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d0bd77 No.311541
A hidden gem in the comments after ArbCom's recent actions, Juan Riley calls them the Arbitrary Committee.
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d0bd77 No.311561
Slightly related as it's on Wikipedia (and I don't know if this was noticed by others yet): GamerGate quoted as a 'Use case' for the archive.is entry (next to other cases such as Julian Assange and the Syrian Electronic Army).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.is
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d0bd77 No.311573
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d0bd77 No.311860
>>310259
> Northbysouthbaranof is railroading another editor with false accusations. It's so outrageous that several newbies are pushing back but the admins are holding the line for North.
One of these newbies, Mouse001, was just banned by JzG for filing a complaint with 20 diffs of personal attacks by Scjessey. It looks like retribution for speaking up against North at the last AE.
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d0bd77 No.311883
A new anti-Wikipedia board launched for people who don't like how Wikipediocracy is run. It's just Eric Barbour and a couple of others for now.
http://wikipediasucks.boards.net/
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d0bd77 No.311965
Wikipediots deleted the article on incels because they think incels are MRAs. An IP accused five participants in the discussion of being meatpuppets. An inactive account returned after a year of inactivity to threaten the career of one of them. Some of the targeted accounts had participated at Talk:GGc and were written up in "Sea Lions of Wikipedia." It looks like there's still some offsite aGG coordination going on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Involuntary_celibacy_%284th_nomination%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive909#Potential_doxing
I wonder what got these aggros involved.
> Welcome to ChildWiki, the children's liberation encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
> Why The Legality Of Child Pornography Is Relevant To The Youth Liberation Movement
> A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws: Who benefits from age of consent laws?
https://archive.is/s6Fze from https://archive.is/QWGXJ and https://archive.is/kdh1B
Sitush went to AN asking for topic bans of aGG SPAs. The convo developed into people rehashing "Yup it sucks" and nothing happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Topic_bans_for_Gamergate.3F
Off topic, Nakon indeffed lulzer EEng as WP:NOTHERE. Other admins want him unblocked because they liked him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Review_of_EEng.27s_indefinite_block
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EEng
This may be interesting:
> Jimbo, was the WMF board fully aware of Arnnon Geshuri's central role in a major anticompetitive scandal at Google when they approved his appointment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#New_WMF_trustee_Arnnon_Geshuri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri
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d0bd77 No.311971
>>311360
According to this Wikipediocracy thread even TDA doesn't know why he was banned.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7249&start=200
>So I emailed TDA, and apparently he has no clue why he was banned. They banned him without contacting him and the first he heard about it was when he got the ban notice put on his userpage.
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d0bd77 No.311973
Lilburne at WO describes Wikipedia's processes as Byzantine.
> Lots of protocols, and bizarre rituals. A central system disconnected from reality, minor flunkies puffing up their authority and making life difficult for the peasants. All fueled by bribery and corruption.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7264#p169314
Barbour gives a history lesson of people that Jimbo fucked over
http://wikipediasucks.boards.net/thread/21/jimbo-drove-over-people-bus
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d0bd77 No.311979
>>310386
INORITE; what's more: they're twin sisters "practicing" to attack and dominate their not-related-by-blood younger brother (ALL OF MY FETISHES).
Sadly, Kiss X Sis is an "echi" lovecom rather than proper "hentai" porn; so it's To Love Ru-teir cocktease with no release…
>>311572
>take archives of contentious edits
Semi related, but is anyone monitoring Wikipedia's handling of the the #rapefugee #rapejihad situation happening in Europe?
Shit's being covered up by the left-leaning MSM, but there were 300+ women raped in just one city in Germany, it happened in multiple cities and not every rape was reported, so the number is climbing; meanwhile, THE DAMAGE-CONTROL IS REAL and feminists and government officials are being the victim-blaming, rape-apologist, hypocritical shitlords that they accuse GG of being!
THIS SHIT IS INSANE AND THE REVERTS NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED!
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d0bd77 No.311980
>>311979
> there were 300+ women raped in just one city in Germany
Got a source for that? From what I've read about Cologne there were lots of sexual assaults but no reported rapes, and most reports of a mass rape were the media hyping it up. Doing some quick research, two sources say there was one report of rape in Cologne.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12082366/German-women-report-string-of-sexual-assaults-by-Arab-and-North-African-men.html
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says/
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d0bd77 No.311981
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>311979
Additional info (I was distracted by yuri):
it happened New Years Eve
there were organized rape gangs
ALL of the attackers were Muslim
most of the attackers were immigrants or refugees
One of the attackers who said he was from Syria boldly stated: "German chancellor Merkel invited us here. The police won't do anything." He was right.
A large number of the rapists were caught, effectively, red-handed by police …and were LET GO by police due to "lack of evidence"
There were protests by the victims and the victims families in the following days. The MSM did not cover one of them.
143 police were sent to deal with the Muslim rape-gangs
1500 police were sent to deal with the victim's protest; where the police used water hoses, teargas, and pepper spray to disburse the protesters.
THE MSM BLAMED WHITE PEOPLE AND THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES FOR THE RAPES AND CALLED ANYONE WHO POINTED OUT THAT ALL THE RAPISTS WERE MUSLIM AS RACIST BECAUSE …FEMINISM (vid related)
Feminist support rape if you're the "right" sort of rapist.
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d0bd77 No.311987
>>311979
>>311981
crosstoasted into it's own bread: >>311983 so, whatever…
WIKIFAGS DOCUMENT THIS SHIT! IT WILL BE IMPORTANT LATER!
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d0bd77 No.312094
New drama at ANI. SimpsonDG, an editor in good standing with contributions going back to 2006, reported Future Perfect to ANI for a bright-line civility violation against StuRat, another editor in good standing with over 20,000 edits. Future's friends circled the wagons.
HighInBC tried to change the subject to SimpsonDG.
NorthBySouthBaranof called for SimpsonDG to be banned as "not here".
Baseball Bugs accused SimpsonDG of wanting to "restrict the content of the discussion" by asking Future Perfect to stop saying things like "fuck off" and "go fuck yourself".
Johnuniq accused SimpsonDG of "add[ing] fuel to the fire" because StuRat had asked admins to remove protection from his own talk page, and called for sanctions on StuRat for being most active in answering questions at the reference desk instead of adding to article space.
Freeatlastchitchat accused SimpsonDG of trollish behavior and said he deserved the incivility directed at StuRat.
Sitush chimed in to call StuRat a troll.
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d0bd77 No.312261
>>311980
Sorry for derailing, but I posted this here because I thought it was universally important for GG. I apologize about derailing.
I blame "twitter accuracy" …and booze.
I'm sorry.
However, the actual crime figures for this one city on this one night are EYE BLISTERING for "assault", "unwanted sexual advances", robbery (no "feely" quotes for stealing your shit) , and actual honest-to-god-rape-is-rape-no-mean-no "sexual assaults" against (white) women… by Muslim men.
This is the actual "RAPE CULTURE" stuff that western feminists whine about; and yet… Muslims are "oppressed" and "must" be protected, according to Cultural Marxism and WHITE PEOPLE are the problem for EVERYTHING; while an actual "rape culture", I.E. (Islam) RAPE ALL THE WHITE WOMANS for being slutty and Western.
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d0bd77 No.312264
>>311971
ArbCom never presented TDA with any evidence against him.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/14/banned-wikipedia-admin-exclusive/
TDA guesses that he may have been banned for reporting an undisclosed conflict of interest by an admin.
> on December 21st I sent a report to the Committee about an admin who has over the last ten years been fluffing up the bios of friends and colleagues as well as making negative and even defamatory edits to articles on opponents, all without disclosing a conflict of interest on these topics as required by policy. On more than one occasion this admin has abused administrative privileges on matters where the admin had an undisclosed conflict of interest. I had attempted on my own to prevent the admin from violating the site’s conflict of interest policies by saying via e-mail I would report this conduct to the Committee, and the admin only stopped editing those areas until I was subjected to a three-month block in October. Upon the resumption of this misconduct I requested by e-mail that the admin undo these new violations or disclose a conflict of interest to no avail.
The Wikipedian has a big article on several of the recent happenings. A comment claims the entire board tried to pressure Lila to resign and she refused.
http://thewikipedian.net/2016/01/11/the-crisis-at-new-montgomery-street/
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d0bd77 No.312420
From KiA: [Shitposting Extravaganza] It's Wikipedia's 15th birthday, and they want you to tweet what Wikipedia means to you under the hashtag #wikipedia15. This sounds like fun, why not contribute? (◕‿◕✿) https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikipedia15?src=hash
QEDK took Future Perfect to ArbCom for making a legal threat against him during >>312094. Kirill Loshkin found "the allegation that administrators are enabling harassment by a banned user" - The Rambling Man and Cassianto allowing an IP to comment on their talk pages, with no sign of it being either harassment or a banned user – to be "deeply concerning and further investigation."
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d0bd77 No.312632
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d0bd77 No.312827
Nathalie Collida outed Future Perfect as a German English professor, apparently for the hell of it because his identity was irrelevant to the discussion. Collida also outed Titanium Dragon and Tutelary back in the day IIRC.
https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller/status/688755140879355904
https://archive.is/Cj7VN
Jimmy Wales is raising money in Abu Dhabi.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/23326-why-is-hanging-out-with-dictators-wrong
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d0bd77 No.312832
>>312264
This is getting pretty juicy.
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d0bd77 No.312833
>>312827
>Collida also outed Titanium Dragon and Tutelary back in the day IIRC.
Got a link to that? I wanna be sure it's the same person.
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d0bd77 No.312834
>>312833
By which I mean something indicating it was that same person who did that shit, not their dox.
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d0bd77 No.312848
>>312833
> Got a link to that? I wanna be sure it's the same person.
Verification is always good. https://archive.is/4soze
The Twitter account has had the Collida name since 2013 and is a "Former writer/researcher for Wikipediocracy" so maybe they've burnt bridges with WO or vice versa.
https://twitter.com/NathalieCollida/
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d0bd77 No.312897
>>312848
What a disgusting piece of shit. Nice to see these assholes eating their own once again though; Future Perfect at Sunrise is one of the corrupt involved-as-fuck admins that helped the GG become what it is today.
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d0bd77 No.312898
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d0bd77 No.313159
>>312897
While ArbCom is hemming and hawing at the idea of maybe saying Future Perfect shouldn't have used such language, they quickly passed a motion condemning The Rambling Man for using milder language after Future Perfect edit warred on his talk page. TRM quit Wikipedia in protest.
They also claimed that the IP's posts that TRM had restored contained "harassment". See for yourself. Is it possible to remove ArbCom members for failing WP:CIR?
https://archive.is/WMCUk
ArbCom had the clerks remove several heated statements, causing protest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Liz#The_Rambling_Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=700757892
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&type=revision&diff=700765709&oldid=700764225
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=700760152&oldid=700757892
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=700777979&oldid=700777924
No one seems to be commenting on the reactionary calls at ANI to ban StuRat and SimpsonDG.
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d0bd77 No.313597
Fuck I shouldnt post stuff about Tv Tropes on Infinity but well I can repost it.
>>309161
>This looks like just issue with one page , with one specific thing. Where mods decided to pick one side and end pointless edit war.
It's shitty thing, mods are far from perfect, there are plenty of SJW and other ignorant or naive leftist but claiming that mods are banning users for being antifeminist is overreaction or even lying. Last thing what we need is is overrection and twisting of facts from our side.
>I disagree with what mods doing there , but that guy was picking fight over one issue agaist majority of editors on page and later with mods.
There should be more evidence to mods shit doing than that.
>And from wiki itself, not forums. Forums are lost cause anyway.
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d0bd77 No.313598
Wikipedia is getting less reliable in the last Years. Is Not drama related thing but they suddenly purging infomative articles without notificiation.
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d0bd77 No.314076
ArbCom admitted to have never given TDA notice of the charges against him or the right to defend himself. As several editors are pointing out, this was against ArbCom policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Severe_Violation_of_Committee_Policy.3F
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d0bd77 No.314099
>>314076
So glad they're still talking about this. Don't fucking let them get away with this this time.
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d0bd77 No.314205
Strelnikov presents stats on Wikipedia's user base:
http://wikipedia-sucks-badly.blogspot.com/2016/01/some-fun-charts-and-graphs-zzuzz.html
This paragraph stands out:
> Active editors, 2003-2015. Notice that most of the editors are very casual, under twenty edits in total, and that group peaked in 2007. I would guess that a lot of these people are now paid editors. The hardest of hard-core editors are a tiny cadre of maybe 1000 people, probably doing most of their edits by 'bots now. This is not a picture of a stable setup; it reminds me of the Ingsoc Party in Nineteen Eighty-Four. The minority of editors are in the Thought Police or the true leadership cadre, the 25+ people are the rest of the Inner Party, and the casuals are the Winston Smiths of the Outer Party.
We've seen that having less than several thousand edits is by itself grounds for an indefinite block. Someone with 100-200 edits is "clearly WP:NOTHERE." Their number of edits is the evidence against them. Someone who just started out is fucked if they make the mistake of disagreeing with a veteran.
Back in 2006 Aaron Swartz found that "insiders account for the vast majority of the edits. But it’s the outsiders who provide nearly all of the content."
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
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d0bd77 No.314331
The argument over TDA is still going on.
> Just stop responding. These are the usual suspects, forward complaints to WMF and see if they will ban these accounts as proxy harassers. Dave Dial (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
He is referring to everyone in the thread who had said that ArbCom should follow its own written policy.
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d0bd77 No.314359
Thank you for keeping us up to date, dear Leader.
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d0bd77 No.314400
>>314331
The fact of the matter is that WP:ARBPOL, as written, requires ArbCom to inform the accused what they have been accused of, where, and given opportunity to defend themselves before a decision is reached. Who was accused, who the accuser was, and the reason why ArbCom violated the polices that hold authority over them is entirely irrelevant. They violated WP:ARBPOL as written and therefore invalidated any and all actions taken as a result of the misconducted hearing. ArbCom must redact these actions until they perform a hearing that does not violate the policy as it is written.
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d0bd77 No.314808
Kiwi Farms outed Mona from Rationalwiki
https://kiwifar.ms/threads/mona-holland-obsessive-anti-semitic-rationalwiki-editor.15622/
which relates to this twitter tirade
> @m0r1arty No. Abuse I got from GGers, &militant Zionists, real & severe. "BernieBros" hysteria =bullshit @ggreenwald @the_moviebob @guardian
> @m0r1arty Everyone w/ strong opinions "gets it," including @ggreenwald. But GGers & Zionists = among worst offenders @the_moviebob @guardian
https://archive.is/PhM0C
as spun by Netscape9, we all JIDF now. Where do I collect my shekels?
https://np.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/43m3v0/shut_it_down_the_goyim_know_antigg_compares/
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d0bd77 No.314822
>>314331
Dave Dial says stupid shit all the time, he blubbers hysterically somewhat like Mark Bernstein whenever he's around during a gamergate or gender gap task force discussion.
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d0bd77 No.314950
Ironholds complains that the R programming language is sexist because it has a variable called iGetHead.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/43tlcg/programmer_quits_work_on_project_after_getting/
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d0bd77 No.315019
>>314808
well! I thought kiwis were extinct. Silly me!
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d0bd77 No.315024
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katherine_Clark&diff=prev&oldid=702947672
"Reichstag Barkstein" continues with facepalm-worthy incompetence and agenda pushing.
"Clark has been an outspoken opponent of Internet harassment directed at professional women, most notably by Gamergate.[48] After introducing legislation that would criminalize harassment through false police reports in harassment – the Gamergate tactic commonly known as "SWATting" – she was herself targeted by a false report of an active shooter at her home. [49]MarkBernstein (talk) 15:51, 2 February 2016 (UTC)"
(Yes, he signed an edit to article space)
A Wikipedia harassment survey's results have come out, with hundreds of Wikipedians claiming that people have uploaded 'revenge porn' of them, among other things.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Harassment_Survey_2015_-_Results_Report.pdf
The revenge porn claims alone have caused lots of people to raise an eyebrow.
Greg Kohs has offended GorillaWarfare by labeling people as "whiners" on the Wikipediocracy thread about the survey.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7329
GorillaWarfare sperged out in the WO thread and on twitter: http://archive.is/WN78L
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d0bd77 No.315034
From October: Special Report from WikiConference USA at NARA, with extra SJW bullshit
https://narations.blogs.archives.gov/
> The next morning, I emerged from the Metro stop on Pennsylvania Avenue to the sounds of a brass and drum band playing “Poison” by Bel Biv DeVoe. It was the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March, and the sidewalks and streets were filled with vibrant celebration and activity.
because Louis Farrakhan is a guy we want to honor and remember
> Inside NARA, that day’s keynote was delivered by Alice Backer of AfroCrowd. AfroCrowd is a new organization devoted improving the representation and participation of Africans and African-Americans in Wikipedia and other open access projects. It was important that their vital work was on center stage at this conference, and not scheduled during the concurrent sessions as an optional “diversity” session that most conference participants might skip.
WikiConference USA, with mandatory SJW bullshit!
> Backer noted the problems encountered by editors mentored by AfroCrowd when attempting to write about topics that the white male-dominated editor base of Wikipedia are unfamiliar with.
It cannot possibly be that newbies aren't good at editing yet. We must have a racist and sexist answer.
—
Alice Backer is someone who knows the right people.
> Central Brooklyn Independent Democrats (CBID) honors the activists who really got Barack Obama elected, including Alice Backer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgMMCGlsSQQ
> Alice has been involved with the free culture and knowledge movements since 2005, first as part of Global Voices Online, where she covered goings-on in African and Caribbean countries.
https://archive.is/uh0Pu
Back to the narration…
—
> Another significant challenge to Wikipedia was discussed during the final day’s keynote. Danielle Citron, law professor at the University of Maryland, spoke on “Hate Crimes in Cyberspace“, the subject of her book last year from Harvard University Press. Online harassment is an issue that Wikipedia is dealing with, and failing to deal with, more and more in recent years.
So stop doing it!
—
Danielle Keats-Citron shows up to a conference with Brianna Wu and promotes Anita Sarkeesian
https://archive.is/WU7E5
advisor to the Ada Initiative
https://archive.is/yl4YB
signed on to Randi Harper's letter where half of the signers were aGG and the rest were visiting Berkman
https://archive.is/dwMgU
So the final day's keynote speaker was another person from the Berkman clique.
—
> taking that passion and employing it to solve this issue will require some hard choices by the community and perhaps some reassessment of our key values and approaches to Wikipedia.
You've already gotten rid of the civility and NPOV policies. What next, get off http and go back to Gopher?
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d0bd77 No.315295
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d0bd77 No.315328
Does anyone know what this is about?
> Congratulations! You have been chosen at random as the next target for vandalism and trolling. Fear not, it is nothing personal, merely a campaign to undermine the Wikimedia Foundation on behalf of an organisation whose interests are in direct conflict. As such, I have been commissioned to select Users, in this case yourself, and to continually harass them until they leave before selecting a new target. Hopefully you now have a better idea of how this works, you massive, MASSIVE twat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thryduulf&diff=703452648&oldid=703267056
It sounds like someone with a past grudge against Thryduulf.
The Wikimedia Foundation is doing a fine job of undermining itself without anyone else needing to get involved.
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d0bd77 No.315397
Today at ANI, Bishonen banned a user named Aspencork as a "time sink" for knowing that Freidrich Engels (as in "Marx and Engels") advocated for the extermination of the Slavic people and having the sources to back up his arguments against a slew of deniers who had nothing more than their refusal to accept that a leftist could support genocide.
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d0bd77 No.315398
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d0bd77 No.315520
Wikipedia on the Iowa caucus: The Democrats had issues. The Republicans had a controversy.
https://voat.co/v/politics/comments/846248
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d0bd77 No.315927
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d0bd77 No.315993
>>315927
Speaking of which, all of the various "Pride" articles are on tight lockdown right now.
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d0bd77 No.316012
>>310962
Heilman implies that his firing was due to his opposition to lying about Wikipedia's "track record of success" building search engines while seeking a grant from the Knight Foundation to build a knowledge engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-02-03/In_focus
There is a strange atmosphere of secrecy around Wikipedia's knowledge engine: >>309158
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d0bd77 No.316101
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d0bd77 No.316102
>>309157
>RationalWiki is asking us to help
Come on, nobody should help these buffoons. RationalWiki is a joke, with or without Ryulong. And all of the general encyclopedias are cancerious tumors and they attract the worst people.
Just because it's the first result on Google people still believe in the Wikipedia myth?
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d0bd77 No.316105
>>316102
> Just because it's the first result on Google people still believe in the Wikipedia myth?
People have a tendency to believe the first thing they hear about a subject, and accurate information is difficult to find. Someone has to know about Encyclopedia Dramatica or Know Your Meme to get the facts, and they have to trust these entertainment sites more than the big commercial news outlets.
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d0bd77 No.316762
People found that Wikipedia's White Pride article had a different point of view compared to its Black Pride and Gay Pride articles. Fanatics wiped the article. A few people tried arguing. Wikipedia declared everybody visiting the page with this POV to be a sock puppet and banned them all, justifying their grievances and proving them correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Talikarni/Archive
One source of the visitors was a New Observer article blaming it on teh jooz
http://newobserveronline.com/gyms-wikipedia-anti-white-racism/
A likely more influential source was a TumblrInAction +1800 post which left out the racism and just compared the articles
> If anyone's wondering why IP's have been making a lot of changes on the article and lots of complaints on the talk page the past few days, it's because this picture has popped up on a lot of social media recently. Perhaps for WP:NEUTRALITY we should change the "evil nazi racists" tone on the article, and/or tone down the "positiveness" on the others? –Steverci (talk) 03:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12717902_947846465322214_4371000710160726707_n.jpg?oh=c199d513b76883b05bb7d90c5d135615&oe=5765A90E
http://imgur.com/RtuM21N
https://www.red*dit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/452mlx/privileged_white_race_owned_in_wikipedia/
There were many new single-purpose accounts editing their personal opinions into the article without giving a source. An example is Red.robbin.eatme hitting 7RR edit warring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=702701339&oldid=702699094
Ylevental nominated the Black Pride page for deletion and showed personal bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Black_pride
> Pretty ridiculous that white pride is a bad thing on Wikipedia. We invented the car, the radio, the airplane, and the computer, and went to the moon among many other accomplishments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704168806
Most of the activity from this side was similarly disruptive and unhelpful.
The Wikipedia article lede cites an opinion piece by a lefty political blogger on salon.com, which is not unlike citing a random Red State blogger's opinion piece from Breitbart. Examples of his other work:
> Stop comparing Trump and Sanders: The two candidates aren’t equal and opposite radicals
https://archive.is/XZpqQ
> Why Bernie Sanders’ Judaism is so important
https://archive.is/Z4Jse
> Marvel’s Trump agenda: Maybe it’s no accident that fans have to push for equality and diversity at every turn
https://archive.is/jyRq6
A few editors treated this as a normal content dispute rather than take sides, for example No longer a penguin:
> Reverted good faith edits by 68.171.86.186 (talk): Please invest time into understanding how wikipedia works
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704093177&oldid=704092499
> a good source is needed for such a defining assertion
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704149480&oldid=704147075
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d0bd77 No.316764
>>316762 cont'd
The most aggressive POV warrior in the area was not one of the White Priders but their opponent Ratemonth.
> no consensus that salon.com is not NPOV
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=697198197&oldid=6971-53498
> undoing earlier vandalism (restoring the word "racist")
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704091698&oldid=704091556
> Ylevental made a racist statement on the white pride talkpage, so i do not trust that user's edits
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_pride&diff=704195971&oldid=704168348
Ratemonth telling Jkhall6115 that he knows what Jkhall6115 means better than Jkhall6115 does
> no, that is not what white pride is. your racist statements should be kept off of talk pages just as much as they should kept out of the article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704200491
Ratemonth calling another editor a racist with no justification, and edit warring to remove comments Ratemonth disagrees with
> wikipedia talk pages are not a forum for racists
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704255185
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704254993
> (1) wikipedia talk pages are not a forum. 2) racist statements do not belong on the talk page or the article.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704255616
Ratemonth deleting 12k of commentary and calling people trolls
> again, not a forum. we should not be feeding the trolls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=704341528
For all of this, Ratemonth received one warning for edit warring from EvergreenFir who did something right for once.
Mscuthbert describes the article as "NPOV state"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704104162&oldid=704102225
EvergreenFir has decided that academic journals are no longer reliable when he disagrees with them
> Restoring old lead; a single primary source in an obscure journal does not warrant a major change to the definition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704188674&oldid=704184235
SummerPhDv2.0 gives this reason to reject an influential speech that arguably founded a new definition of white pride
> Charlton Heston is not a reliable source for what "White pride advocates say".
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=704364598&oldid=704294574
To remind everybody, Wikipedia's written policy is that anyone can edit, and "anyone" includes Nazis. If they can behave themselves and produce reliable sources, they are supposed to be treated like any other editor regardless of their personal politics. Chasing after Nazis and running them off the site is a violation of multiple Wikipedia policies including witchhunting, WP:ROPE, and the inevitable personal attacks when the admins accuse more and more people of being Nazis just for disagreeing with how the admins are acting (like Nazis, ironically). As for the sockpuppetry claims, if Wikipedia banned everybody who edited a page because the subject was on Reddit or going around social media or in the news, there would be no editors left.
The important bit: Robert McClenon admits that the admins are under political pressure from the WMF board
> Can we find [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are more positive about white pride? I think that trying to tone down the positiveness of the other two would not only be disruptive but would be likely to annoy the WMF Board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:White_pride&diff=704363690&oldid=704362126
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d0bd77 No.316780
>>316762
>> Marvel’s Trump agenda: Maybe it’s no accident that fans have to push for equality and diversity at every turn
Meanwhile, Marvel writers mock Trump.
I have to credit Perlmutter, he's doing the opposite of the SJWs who will censor any point of view they disagree with.
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d0bd77 No.316800
JzG cut all but one sentence out of the article on the band Orpheus, got reverted for vandalism, banned the other editor, got reverted again, banned that editor, and protected the page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orpheus_%28band%29&offset=&limit=500&action=history
What makes this story extra fun is this edit summary:
> (cur | prev) 00:39, 17 February 2016 ZepFan69 (talk | contribs) . . (15,953 bytes) (+13,383) . . (Undid revision 704897247 by JzG (talk) It has come to my attention at User [/JzG|JzG] is a former member of the band, Orpheus, and is deliberately removing information as retaliation. I am pursuing a ban I)
This… does not seem to be supported by evidence.
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d0bd77 No.316814
>>314950
>I don't think that this is an intentional sexual reference - far from it, I'm certain it's just due to an absence of familiarity with one particularly crass English idiom, and I have only ever known the developer who wrote the code (whose first language is not English) to be entirely proper, entirely reasonable, and the model of what a productive Core member should be.
No way you could be the problem? Nah, it has to be that guy who made something that could be interpreted in such a way it would be a problem. Coming up next:
stripstr is short for "strip sluty trannies".
The wstring type is short for "women's string" which is fetishism and objectification of women.
fgetpos is for "female get position", a reference to "back to the kitchen, women"
atof is short for "ass to face", an innuendo to the sex act and degradation of women.
isalpha is rape culture. No doubt. Rape. Culture.
These morons going in tech are the gift that keeps on giving.
>The initial file extension for files compressed with Brotli was Bro but discussion on Mozilla's bug tracking site suggested that the abbreviation "has a gender problem".
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/11/bro-file-extension-offensive-changed-to-br-instead/
> Some Notepad++ users pointed out several links in reddit to me, these threads were talking about some sexist jokes included as easter eggs in Notepad++
https://plus.google.com/+notepad-plus-plus/posts/WznU6qVkQbG
>Why I'm not laughing at C Plus Equality
http://blog.mollywhite.net/why-im-not-laughing-at-c-plus-equality/
etc.
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d0bd77 No.316815
>>316800
So it's not just GamerGate, this guy is in so deep he can get away with his shenanigans on any article?
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d0bd77 No.316862
>>316780
>current year
>actually wanting a joke candidate
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d0bd77 No.316935
If anyone remembers "Wikipedia tries to make the Political Correctness page Politically Correct"
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3p93f5/wikipedia_tries_to_make_the_political_correctness/?ref=search_posts
That is flaring up again at ANI. At least the page has improved since WiA noticed it, but there is still a section calling it and cultural marxism a conspiracy theory.
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d0bd77 No.316957
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7377
> Community Engagement, 3 resignations in 4 days
> Monday: departure of Luis Villa, director CE, announced. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/677493
> Tuesday: Anna Koval, Manager of Wikipedia Education Program, is leaving http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/677877
> Thursday: Siko Bouterse, Director of Resources, follows: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/679170
There's some informative commentary on internal WMF politics in the thread.
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d0bd77 No.317023
GenderGappers duke it out with PC civility bros after Gamaliel approves an edgy "op-ed" by fellow arbitrator Keilana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-02-17/Op-ed
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d0bd77 No.317111
Another editor got blocked for not being a Communist. Prestopotatoe had argued for the removal of text claiming that Britain is "multicultural", "diverse", and "multi-racial" on the grounds that it is a confederation of multiple nationalities.
> You guys are aware of the fact that 90% British folk can trace their ancestry back for hundreds and thousands of years? How on Earth does that make it a multi-racial, multicultural or diverse society? Despite the fact that a couple of areas in London resemble slums in Nairobi, the vast majority of Britain is uniformly white and uniformly of a single English scots irish or welsh culture. I invite you to go down to Kent or Margate and see how diverse British culture is.–[[User:Prestopotatoe|Prestopotatoe]] ([[User talk:Prestopotatoe|talk]]) 00:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Snowded called Prestopotatoe a racist and deleted his comment. GeneralizationsAreBad reported Presto to ANI, GoodDay called Presto "NOTHERE", and Jimfbleak gave Prestopotatoe a one-week block and threatened an indef. No action was taken against Snowded.
So it's now racist and a bannable offense to know that England, Scotland, and Wales exist.
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d0bd77 No.317129
If anyone remembers >>310259 NorthBySouthBaranof's fanatical scrubbing of the Huma Abedin page, Lee Stranahan has written an article which shows plainly how ridiculous North's position is.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/18/the-truth-about-huma-abedin-that-media-matters-doesnt-want-america-to-see/
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d0bd77 No.317461
More action from the crazy brigade at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Christina_Hoff_Sommers
> We are asked here to endorse an extreme political ideology in which an individual’s specious and self-serving redefinition of feminism – a redefinition that have been broadly rejected – is required to be taken at face value. Up is down, patriarchy is feminist, and we have always been at war with eastasia. As soon as Binksternet compiles the requested list of 30 or 40 reference, that list will doubtless be reverted from the article as WP:UNDUE. We all know this, and so volunteer editors are naturally reluctant to waste their time. It is clear from the sources in the article and a cursory reading of the discussion of the subject's work – and indeed from the discussion here – that most feminists disagree with the subject’s esoteric and self-serving redefinition of feminism, and the article should reflect that. MarkBernstein (talk) 18:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
He is refering to Sommers's equity feminism, the notion of equality between the sexes, which used to be called just "feminism." And isn't calling a BLP subject "specious" and "self-serving" a BLP vio?
> It should be clear to all the the subject dissents from many facets of the thought of Simone de Beauvoir, Gloria Steinem, bell hooks, Germaine Greer, or Judith Butler; these and related thinkers are what people in general understand to be meant by "feminism". MarkBernstein (talk) 19:43, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
> Wow! That's quite a rogues gallery that MarkBerstein has presented as typical feminists; mainly Marxists or anarchists with one democratic-socialist (Steinem) thrown in for balance. No, someone at odds with those people is not necessarily an anti-feminist. Motsebboh (talk) 03:13, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
And an admin weighs in:
> Scholars of Women's Studies are topic experts. Binksternet (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
> I would be happy with telling the reader that "feminist scholars" describe Sommers as antifeminist, absent of any attempt to assess what kind of majority. Binksternet (talk) 07:14, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
> You've got Patai and Koertge going against the mass of feminist scholarship. Those two don't even constitute a minority opinion against the dozens of other scholars who say Sommers is antifeminist. Binksternet (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
The page has been to BLPN multiple times
> This entire article reads as if it were titled "opponents of christina hoff sommers", not an actual biography … How can you say who a person is in 2 lines, and not actually show who this person is or what they do, and then go on a 2 page rant on how much they're wrong… –77.29.245.231 (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive52#Christina_Hoff_Sommers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive64#Christina_Hoff_Summers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive211#Christina_Hoff_Sommers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive236#Christina_Hoff_Sommers
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d0bd77 No.317469
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d0bd77 No.317493
Oh my lols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Peyton_Manning
> Peyton Manning is notable as a football player, not as a participant in a settled suit from the 90s and not as an alleged user of HGH… Mr Ernie (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
> I strongly dispute that. A quick search on any part of Google (news, books, or the web) turns up scandals as the overwhelmingly highest-profile coverage of him. I feel that part of the problem here is that fans (who are mostly familiar with him through his other accomplishments) might not realize that even those high-profile accomplishments ultimately pale before some of the scandals he's been involved with. I would argue that the majority of the text in the article could be about his scandals and it still would not violate WP:NPOV based on the level (and, at this point, the duration) of coverage they're getting. Certainly suggesting that they could be omitted entirely and still produce an article that would satisfy WP:NPOV is implausible. At this point, I am comfortable saying that he is more notable for his scandals than he is for anything else. At the very least, I feel that the controversy section should be restored; people can work on incorporating it into the article in a more useful fashion, but I absolutely don't feel that your removal of it was defensible. –Aquillion (talk) 07:07, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.317603
Editor Andymii removed from the Christopher Reeve page some promotional-sounding adjectives about the primary school that Reeve went to as a child. Beyond My Ken edit-warred the material back in while insulting Andymii and another editor in his edit summaries. The page history speaks for itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Reeve&action=history
Softlavender threatened Andymii with a boomerang for taking it to ANI. Ian.Thompson does his best "nothing to see here" impression. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris advised Andymii to let BMK have his way, "showing you're above all this" as if that would solve BMK's behavioral problems.
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d0bd77 No.317612
Looks like a couple of the usual POV pushers have been trying to insert their GG propaganda into the Hashtag_activism article now:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hashtag_activism
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d0bd77 No.317628
Martin Hogbin opened an Arbcom case accusing Slimvirgin, Viriditas, and Sammy1339 of POV and behavioral problems at articles on veganism. Masem and Mark Bernstein both showed up to compare the case to Gamergate, with Masem noting "how I myself was claimed by some of those involved that I was being disruptive at the talk page, simply for using the talk page for discussion regarding POV aspects" and Bernstein unironically condemning "endlessly repetitive talk page filibustering"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case
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d0bd77 No.317814
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d0bd77 No.317817
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d0bd77 No.317822
>>317817
Mark Bernstein is a non-notable polemicist and should be deleted from Wikipedia.
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d0bd77 No.317881
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d0bd77 No.318218
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d0bd77 No.318319
>>317814
>Bernie Sanders outright "names the Jew" in his SNL sketch
How is this even a question, FFS? He's not religious, but neither are most Christians, yet their religion is mentioned, too. Why is wikipedia so anti-Semitic?
>>317817
How is that guy still even allowed on wikipedia, much less taken seriously, when he blatantly and knowingly lied about the website for a Guardian article?
I guess it's for the same reason the Guardian is still considered a "reputable source".
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d0bd77 No.318324
>>318319
>Bernie Sanders outright "names the Jew" in his SNL sketch
What'd he say? "Yeah, it was me, my bad"
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d0bd77 No.318464
we cant just boycott google especially if you use chrome or chrome books or even android and many things that google owns we are owned by google..
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d0bd77 No.318476
>>318319
>How is that guy still even allowed on wikipedia, much less taken seriously, when he blatantly and knowingly lied about the website for a Guardian article?
Because he's Gamaliel's buttbuddy. That's it, really. He was banned in the past by admins with a bit more scruples (but not a lot) and his knight in shining armor bailed him out. Now he has free reign to do whatever he wants because of Wikipedia's lack of admin oversight: when one admin makes a decision most admins are too afraid to question its judgment out of fear of a boomerang desysoping.
And that piece of shit Gamaliel is now a member of this year's arbcom too, by the way.
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d0bd77 No.318525
>>311980
>Got a source for that?
Just look at the videos.
Theres loads of stare raping going on. And I even saw some manspreading.
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d0bd77 No.318636
Gamaliel has decided to add the 500/30 restriction to the "Brianna Wu" pages, not long after his buddy Mark was crying there after being accused of a conflict of interest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brianna_Wu&curid=44099481&diff=708625808&oldid=708607706
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brianna_Wu#500.2F30_restrictions
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d0bd77 No.319388
Mark Bernstein once again violating his interaction ban with DHeyward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate_controversy&diff=710430090
I wonder if anyone will be punished over it :^)
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d0bd77 No.319389
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d0bd77 No.319787
Wikipedia rangeblocks its own Wikipedia Zero service
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-March/083440.html
Zoloft at WO: "So, they are finally reaching that little girl in Africa… and blocked her."
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7497
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d0bd77 No.319788
Here's a mug o' piss for the admins who have to deal with all of the trolls and amateur comedians in the Gawker articles since the Hulk verdict.
It is actual piss. We still don't like you.
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d0bd77 No.319820
who gives a shit about rationalwiki?
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d0bd77 No.320052
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d0bd77 No.320297
We missed some drama in Wikipedia's OTRS issue tracker in early 2015. After Russavia was banned, Fae "was recently kicked out for unclear reasons that apparently had no basis on any action I had taken" and "have been accused on the Administrator's noticeboard of being a meatpuppet by two OTRS volunteers and the OTRS volunteer who is also a Commons administrator made public legal threats","odder has had a blatantly retaliatory thread raised against him on the Administrator's noticeboard by Ktr101", and The Photographer was kicked out of OTRS by Rjd0060.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2015/02#Public_statement_from_Ktr101_and_OTRS
Last month HJ Mitchell accused The Photographer of leaking an OTRS discussion, as if that were a bad thing, and refused the requests of three administrators to present evidence, clarify the allegation, or retract the accusation.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_57#HJ_Mitchell
During a discussion over whether or not HJ Mitchell should be desysoped for this, Colin deleted an IP's comment as allegedly being by a banned user (probably Russavia), Denniss blocked Colin for deleting the comment, and the WMF's Jalexander desysoped Denniss. There are disputes over whether Colin was misapplying en.wp policy to Commons and whether the desysoping of Denniss was out of procedure, with the sides falling along the same party lines as the previous Russavia-related disputes.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators/Requests/HJ_Mitchell_%28de-adminship%29&diff=190265702&oldid=190262984
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Colin#Your_account_has_been_blocked
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Denniss#30_day_de-sysop
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#RFA_for_User:Denniss
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d0bd77 No.320760
Mohsin Pathania is suing WMF after Commons banned him for arguing about the copyright status of the monkey selfie.
http://wikipediasucks.boards.net/thread/154/legal-notice-defamation-willful-distribution?page=1
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d0bd77 No.321031
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d0bd77 No.321093
David Emrany says, emphasis his:
> Tretikov was brought in to bring about technical changes at Wikimedia to counter problems of increasing mobile platform viewership and to attract disenfranchised communities who are put off from editing at Wikipedia by entrenched older cabals of predominantly queer white male racist nerd programmers many of whom are Wikimedia Foundation staff or contractors moonlighting as lucrative paid editors
> …
> When Tretikov's activities staunched the rot, exposed paid editing rackets and attracted a flood of new editors eligible to vote next year, WMF's co-founder Jimmy Wales secretly engineered mass staff resignations to force Tretikov out.
https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Lila-Tretikov-forced-to-resign-as-executive-director-of-the-Wikimedia-Foundation
https://archive.is/je4km
He has made similar allegations before:
> The real issue to be addressed are the large number of trustees, staff, Arbcom members, and administrators who are undisclosed paid editors and who ensure that uninterested editors are driven away.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-February/082659.html
He also attempts to out Bishonen as Ajfweb (who Mohsin Pathania above claims is a WMF UK bureaucrat), but the people at Wikipedia Sucks are not convinced.
http://wikipediasucks.boards.net/thread/164/bishonen-beautiful-boy
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d0bd77 No.321117
>>320052
Well fuck I turn away for a week and they're already up to more bullshit.
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d0bd77 No.321127
>>320052
There's a good read about it on Wikipediocracy too but the thread's only visible with an account (like the Devil's Advocate thread).
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7494
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d0bd77 No.321370
Less news than FYI, the WMF has a standard form letter about Gamergate that was written in response to the Guardian's article about ArbCom.
http://imgur.com/7cMIYF0
Discusion on KiA:
https://np.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4dm2fm/misc_wikipedia_still_asking_for_money_this_is/
Meanwhile at ANEW, PeterTheFourth is trying to get DHeyward in trouble for calling Alison Rapp a pedo apologist. CoffeeCrumbs and Mr Ernie have called for a boomerang against Peter and Bernstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANEW#User:DHeyward_reported_by_User:PeterTheFourth_.28Result:_.29
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d0bd77 No.321538
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d0bd77 No.321539
>>321538
Oh and of course MarkBernstein shows up to defend his knight in shining armor again and of course both are the first to bring up spooky Gamergate off-site organization as a defense for their poor behavior again. This guy literally does nothing but cast aspersions against other users; it's just incredible that he hasn't been dealt with already.
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d0bd77 No.321782
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d0bd77 No.321783
I give it another year before things their get any better.
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d0bd77 No.321804
From Kumioko at WO:
> Apparently some Wikipedian(s) visited the Smithsonian museum recently (it happens a lot, so that's not news and may not have even been recent) and spoke with folks about how the museum and the WMF projects could benefit from each other. So some employee from the Smithsonian logged into some IRC channels last night to check things out and after chatting for a while, logged out. At least that is what they claimed.
> The person logged back in today to find they had been banned, so they naturally asked why and were treated rudely from the start and eventually told it was probably because they thought this individual was me. Why would they come to this conclusion? Because I am one of millions of people who live in the DC area and one of the millions of people who use Verizon. So apparently anyone who lives in DC and/or uses Verizon for internet is now assumed to be me.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7558
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d0bd77 No.322044
>>321539
NE Ent brought Gamaliel to ArbCom for multiple policy violations. Hammersoft lays out the case.
> Gamaliel appears to stand in violation of WP:3RR, WP:BLP, WP:NLT, WP:RPA and WP:CSD policies. His conduct in several of these instances would likely have resulted in blocks for "lesser" editors. But, as the closing administrator at the AN/I thread said "no administrator is going to take action against a sitting member of ArbCom", Gamaliel is being treated differently than non-ArbCom members simply because of his position.
Six arbs recused and three declined so this is going nowhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#BLP_and_the_American_politician
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d0bd77 No.322059
Bernstein back at AE again too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#MarkBernstein
And what do you know, the first admin to show up and defend his behavior is Gamaliel once again. I seem to remember him saying he was all done policing the GG topic area several months ago on his talk page or something (probably coinciding with his arbcom nomination). Anyone who's been following him like a hawk have the diff I'm referring to?
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d0bd77 No.322190
Well now, someone seems salty.
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d0bd77 No.322191
>>322190
> Wordsmith shoves Bernstein off the Reichstag
Wordsmith to be outed and harassed in 3… 2… 1…
I wonder how many MSM pieces about Wikipedia's inherent sexism will come out of this.
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d0bd77 No.322287
>>322044
> Six arbs recused and three declined so this is going nowhere.
Three of the recusers were clerks, not arbs. The current vote is 6/3/4/2 so they might open a case.
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d0bd77 No.322299
>>320297
Looking at this from the outside-the-fish-bowl-looking-in, is like looking at Babylonian cuneiform tablets shuffled out-of-order machine-translated; while I'm capable of understanding the individual words; I'm completely incapable of understanding those words significance in relation to each other in-context without some kind of "inside-Babylonball" Localization cheat-sheet.
The encyclopedia anyone can edit if you can understand the encyclopediaests foreign language and culture before editing even once ever
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d0bd77 No.322336
>Assuming that ArbCom is going to take this case based on current !votes, I would recommend they clearly define the bounds of behavior that the case will cover. I have nothing to say in regards to the Signpost and resulting use of admin tools (others that were more involved have covered what I feel can be stated), but should the case include the Gamergate topic area, I have several concerns to present about what I felt was inconsistent and preferential handling of disruption in that area by Gamaliel that shouldn't have happened (related to the questions raised by Gamaliel's coda), but otherwise for the most part unrelated to the Signpost issues. –MASEM (t) 16:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I actually wasn't sure if Masem had the spine to notice and identify admin misconduct.
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d0bd77 No.322381
>>322299
Don't you love the irony?
>>322336
The wheels of bureaucracy continue to turn slowly but steadily.
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d0bd77 No.322433
>>322381
In relation to the last couple of posts in this thread, can someone 411 me? Are Gameil and Bernstein actually going to be banhammered and stripped of their admin powers? Or is this yet again, going to be a case where someone brings legit charges but Gameil and Bernstein remain untouched due to their corrupt influences and the poor guy who did the right thing being banhammered for daring to stand up to these fucks?
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d0bd77 No.322443
>>322433
MarkBernstein has been topic banned from Gamergate and is quite upset about it. He tried to email the admin who banned him but the guy told him to stop contacting him about Gamergate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MarkBernstein&diff=prev&oldid=715731053
The case against Gamaliel should be proceeding as there was enough evidence presented to the arbitrators for them to want to accept it, especially the fact that some seemed to think that Gamaliel being on ArbCom meant he was above the law.
However, after enough arbitrators had voted Accept, suddenly some shenanigans started to occur.
To start with, Gamaliel has 'wikilawyered up' you could say and someone with more skill at manipulating Wikipedians has started advising him on how to proceed. As such, he wrote a long ass 'coda' blaming his actions on his enemies and Gamergate, which he emailed to fellow arbitrator Drmies and told him to add it to the case request page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=715331510
(There was a small edit war over this with Gamaliel's pocket "uninvolved admin" The_ed17 attempting to stop Dan Murphy, who was complaining that it was allowed. Someone called Cirt (seems to be an SJW) tried to get Dan punished by reporting this at ANI, but it was closed without action)
The arbitration clerks started informing participants that they needed to cut down their statements if they were over the 500 word limit. An admin called TParis asked the clerk if Gamaliel's 'coda' counted towards his word limit, and the clerk says it doesn't because Drmies posted it, not Gamaliel. This confused several people who noticed, as it's pretty much laughing in the face of the rules everyone else has to follow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gamaliel&oldid=715808435#Length_of_statement_at_WP:RFAR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement_by_Dan_Murphy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement_by_Miborovsky
In addition, SlimVirgin started rattling the saber and screaming "HARASSMENT" in an attempt to defend Gamaliel by blaming it all on Gooberglob/DHeyward while claiming the ArbCom is "in danger of being used as a platform for harassment" if they accept the case. She also started a discussion on the talk page claiming Gamaliel is a "harassment victim" due to Gamergate and she cast some aspersions towards DHeyward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement_by_SlimVirgin
Once DHeyward discovered that SlimVirgin had been implying he was at fault, he kind of went off about it and now one of the arbs wants to get a "temporary injunction" interaction ban between DHeyward and Gamaliel so DHeyward can't discuss Gamaliel outside of the case pages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Temporary_injunction
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests&oldid=715819011#Harassment
(There was a comparison made between Gamaliel and Bill Cosby here with got removed)
Meanwhile, Gamaliel has gone dark (as of this time, no edits since the 14th), likely at the advice of his wikilawyer (probably SlimVirgin).
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d0bd77 No.322444
>>322443
>Bill Cosby here which got removed)*
Expect DHeyward to get fucked over.
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d0bd77 No.322497
>To remind everybody, Wikipedia's written policy is that anyone can edit, and "anyone" includes Nazis. If they can behave themselves and produce reliable sources, they are supposed to be treated like any other editor regardless of their personal politics. Chasing after Nazis and running them off the site is a violation of multiple Wikipedia policies including witchhunting, WP:ROPE, and the inevitable personal attacks when the admins accuse more and more people of being Nazis just for disagreeing with how the admins are acting (like Nazis, ironically). As for the sockpuppetry claims, if Wikipedia banned everybody who edited a page because the subject was on Reddit or going around social media or in the news, there would be no editors left.
No there would be editors left, either idealogues, and paid marketers or PR people, they'd probably be fine with rando's editing typical stuff like a new mars discovery or something. But living people, political movements, companies, yeah no normal person would be allowed to touch them. Off limits to the normalfags.
Honestly I don't even know why some people bother trying to fight it anymore. The sooner the whole place turns into a circlejerk hugbox of Jezebel articles, the sooner people will realize the whole site is a crock of shit.
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d0bd77 No.322498
>>322433
> In relation to the last couple of posts in this thread, can someone 411 me? Are Gameil and Bernstein actually going to be banhammered and stripped of their admin powers? Or is this yet again, going to be a case where someone brings legit charges but Gameil and Bernstein remain untouched due to their corrupt influences and the poor guy who did the right thing being banhammered for daring to stand up to these fucks?
1. BLP hounds grossly overreacted to an April Fools' Day joke by Gamaliel
2. Gamaliel (and JzG) grossly overreacted and broke numerous policies to shut down discussion of whether or not there was a BLP problem
3. After being taken to ANI and ArbCom, Gamaliel and his supporters are screaming that this is a Gamergate conspiracy. The likely sockmaster (WP:MEAT Mistress?) SlimVirgin crawled out of the shadows to say the ArbCom report is harassment by Gamergate. People are already saying "oh poor you" and giving Gamaliel their sympathy.
ArbCom is probably going to be distracted by (3), concentrate on (1), and ignore Gamaliel's misbehavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-03-17/News_and_notes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive919#Blatant_BLP_violation_and_subsequent_protection_by_involved_Admin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests#Harassment
Bernstein got taken to AE while this was going on and Gamaliel lacked the political clout to close the report. An uninvolved admin topic-banned Bernstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive190#MarkBernstein
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d0bd77 No.322523
I like how GorillaWarfare can't seem to shut the fuck up despite "recusing" herself (as she she should have in last year's GamerGate ArbCom case but failed). She has stated loud and clearly now that Gamaliel is a "dear friend" to her, and it's clear she's going to use her feigned recusal as a means to defend Gamaliel during the case instead of fucking off entirely which is what a recusal actually means. She's started budding into the talk page for the GG article as well now, no doubt to pick up Gamaliel's reigns to protect the poor wyminz from GG harassers.
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d0bd77 No.322601
WMF lawyer abandons ship
> The foundation's legal director, Yana Welinder, has quietly departed.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7377&start=150
Comment by Cedric:
> When an attorney "fires the client" after a short period (here apparently six months), it is nearly always because the client is seen to be making unreasonable demands, often of a kind that could have a negative impact on the attorney's professional image or reputation if they submit to them.
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d0bd77 No.322602
>>322601
The house is divided, and its cabinet of cannibals is collapsing upon itself with all due haste. The wise are abdicating so as to let the infighting continue unhindered. All is going according to plan.
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d0bd77 No.322650
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d0bd77 No.322809
Jimbo gives the first info we have heard as to why The Devil's Advocate was banned:
> No, neither of those. The harassment was confessed to in extensive detail by the now-banned user, in an email to ArbCom. The idea that ArbCom didn't let him speak his side of the matter is simply not true - he spoke it in volumes. Printed out, it is 7 pages of wall-to-wall text detailing a campaign of harassment over an extended period of time (over a year), including detailed investigations into another users personal life, repeated threats to that user to out him, "opposition research", etc. It's really ugly and exhibits the worst kind of battleground mentality.–Jimbo Wales (talk) 19:50, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Risk_of_outing_participants_requires_a_secret_trial
TDA's description of this "confession" was quite different:
> What I know is that on December 21st I sent a report to the Committee about an admin who has over the last ten years been fluffing up the bios of friends and colleagues as well as making negative and even defamatory edits to articles on opponents, all without disclosing a conflict of interest on these topics as required by policy. On more than one occasion this admin has abused administrative privileges on matters where the admin had an undisclosed conflict of interest. I had attempted on my own to prevent the admin from violating the site’s conflict of interest policies by saying via e-mail I would report this conduct to the Committee, and the admin only stopped editing those areas until I was subjected to a three-month block in October.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/14/banned-wikipedia-admin-exclusive/
Now I want to see what was in that report.
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d0bd77 No.322818
>>322809
It involves high level payola from several of the Cabal (won't name names but it's easy to guess which ones) organized and entrenched to the point that if it ever got out, it would irreversibly damage Wikipedia and the Wikipedia Foundation as far as the top brass of Cabal who run the site flat out being bought and paid to slander folks and puff up others. Of which, the Gamergate page is one of the websites where the Cabal are outright getting paid to preserve it's false narrative to their dying breathe.
As for why Jimbo tolerates this? Besides the fact that he's completely detached from the day to day running of Wikipedia, is the fact that certain members of the Cabal point blank have threatened Jimbo and the site.
The Cabal basically have set up a "Samson Option": in which in the event that the Cabal was purged for their evil deeds, they would wipe EVERY PAGE on the website and ban all the users/ban just about every IP address that ever accessed Wikipedia. Basically leaving Wikipedia with zero entries and all content erased and the whole website locked so that no one can even attempt to rebuild or restore from the back-up that exists on the interweb.
They also have threatened to have their media cronies defend their "scorch earth" scheme if they ever carry it, in terms of having the media narrative be that the Cabal were justified and in the right, to kill Wikipedia "to save it".
Jimbo doesn't want his life's work to be erased and everyone locked out of the website/have the media paint him as a monster. Especially since the Cabal threatened him with it by claiming they would do it "for the greater good" and other SJW buzzwords to make it seem like such a mutually assured destruction tactic was just and righteous.
Hence why he has abandoned it to the wolves that threatened him, since he let the terrorists extort him and think he's the bad guy for wanting honesting and integrity for the people who basically run his creation in his stead.
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d0bd77 No.322819
>>322601
Yana quit because she found out about >>322818 and wanted to call the cabal's bluff. Jimbo and others in Jimbo did not want to fight, so she bailed.
>>322523
GorillaWarfare wants to be the next Gamaliel
and it's an open secret that she'd stab any member of the cabal in the back if the end result made her queen bee of the Cabal. She's largely kept under thumb but her "recusing herself" is for PR purposes only, just as her constant dick sucking of Gamaliel is to ensure that he keeps thinking she's still loyal to him 100%.
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d0bd77 No.322831
ArbCom fucked up again by adding new parties to Gamaliel's case halfway through the evidence phase.
https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/4g3bqw/after_secret_deliberations_and_with_no_one_asking/
One of them is JzG who went on a wikibreak five days earlier, so they are putting him on trial on a short schedule while he is AFK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wikibreak
That is still less fucked up than what ArbCom has been doing lately.
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d0bd77 No.322832
>>322818
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence…
In that scenario Jimbo could back everything up onto an external TB drive and call their bluff. Or the Cabal could cut their losses by purging the few people involved in GG, paying them off to be quiet about it, and declaring that they cleaned house. If you have evidence of admins "flat out being bought and paid to slander folks", you could send it to the folks they slandered and let their lawyers handle it.
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d0bd77 No.322836
>>322809
I'm fond of this comment personally:
>Jimbo, what you said before was very good: "no secret trials, and no convictions without giving the opportunity to present a defense. That's just basic justice, and I will overturn any ArbCom decision to the contrary." But now, when this has actually started happening, you're equivocating. I'm sorry, but there just isn't any room for argument: It was a secret trial without notification or opportunity for a defense; the ArbCom itself said so, and no one has even tried to suggest otherwise until now. Have the courage to stand behind your past statements. Everyking (talk) 23:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Real glad this issue hasn't been kicked to the curb and people have the guts to not give up on it just yet. This secret trial bullshit is literally fucking Orwellian and it's the worst infraction I have ever seen by an ArbCom. If their behavior against policy continues to go unchecked like this it will lead to some serious consequences for the community.
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d0bd77 No.322846
>>322832
The Cabal already made their token sacrifice (Ryulong) and members there felt that should never have happened to begin with, in terms of any concession being seen as a sign of weakness.
And while Jimbo does have everything backed up, the guy's a grade a pussy. When faced with left wing terrorist making terrorist threats against him, he caves because he fears what they can do to him. The Cabal is not shy about broadcasting their media ties and ability to get their cronies to back up their smear campaign of the day.
Adding to this is the fact that there are additional skeletons in the closet for Jimbo and the Wikipedia Foundation. If the Cabal start their smear campaign, other shit might start coming out that Jimbo wants buried, in terms of a smear campaign shaking lose legit scandals.
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d0bd77 No.322848
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Evidence&diff=716830702&oldid=716829632
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Evidence#Removal_of_Evidence_by_Dennis_Brown
> My evidence is 100% about recent conduct as an admin, but it appears that isn't why we are here. If we trim enough evidence and just leave the negative comments about those who question him, then we don't have to consider any misconduct and can pin a medal on him instead. This looks very crooked to me, and I know damn well I'm not the only one. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:38, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.322963
Are any of the WMF Advisory Board members familiar to our diggers?
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
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d0bd77 No.322964
TDA has released a redacted version of what he emailed the admin and ArbCom: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&type=revision&diff=15559542&oldid=15558214
This has prompted Drmies to say TDA's Conflict of Interest claims are full of shit: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=15561131&oldid=15559662
TDA's reply to Drmies, insisting even if there was no CoI then the admin was still using WP:INVOLVED admin tools: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=15561182
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=717327812#Two_separate_issues:_Method_and_COI
There was nothing to the complaint, nothing whatsoever. It was investigated, in detail; TDA's charges are without merit, and their reading of the history and of policy are simply wrong. Drmies (talk) 19:44, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.323039
>>322963
> Are any of the WMF Advisory Board members familiar to our diggers?
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Yepyepyep!
Mimi Ito, sister of Joi Ito (MIT Media Lab)
friend of Jon McIntosh (Feminist Frequency) https://archive.is/FEMc3 https://archive.is/qByhZ
appears at HASTAC events
Mimi: who speaks and who is silenced? Must pay attention to the culture of the internet and to what goes unnoticed in it. Gender: one of the most resilient stratums of internet participation, becomes even more apparent in the seemingly lawless communities.
https://archive.is/bPamN
Rebecca MacKinnon, New America Foundation, member of Global Network Initiative https://archive.is/AxMy
President Clinton's decision to pardon Rich from his crimes was influenced by a hedge fund manager and oligarch named Michael Steinhardt, who had persistently lobbied Clinton on Rich's behalf, and who was one of the largest funders of the Democratic Party. In addition, Steinhardt had co-founded an outfit called the New America Foundation, which played a key role in securing the presidency for Clinton, and was later credited with having authored much of the Clinton administration's policy platform.
As Steinhardt has himself admitted (possibly because he worried that the information was going to become public anyway, and because he wished to deliver the news as if it were no big deal) the largest investors in his first hedge fund were the Genovese Mafia family.
According to Steinhardt, the second biggest investors in his hedge fund (after the Genovese Mafia) were Marc Rich and his office mate, Ivan Boesky.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2013/06/the-global-bust-out-series-chapter-6-an-oligarchical-organized-crime-and-terrorism-syndicate-and-some-stock-promoters/ https://archive.is/kxakX
Ethan Zuckerman was on Randi Harper's letter https://archive.is/dwMgU
Remember that Berkman Center WAM report that found almost zero harassment in Gamergate but concluded that it was about harassment? "Ethan Zuckerman, director of the MIT Center for Civic Media, offered early, valuable advice on the approach to take with this report."
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d0bd77 No.323040
Zuckerman has some interesting friends.
Skypecast interview with Alaa Adb El Fateh, crossposted from Global Voices
https://web.archive.org/web/20050625084308/http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?cat=7
> Parent(s) Ahmed Seif and Laila Suief
> Relatives Mona Seif Sanaa Seif(sisters)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaa_Abd_El-Fattah
Alaa Abdel Fattah, blogger and software engineer first jailed in 2013 to spend another five years in jail.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egyptian-court-jails-leading-activist-for-five-years-391989
UN Watch urges High Commissioner Pillay to condemn pro-terror statements by Mona Seif
> On July 6, 2011, Ms. Seif advocated the blowing up of pipelines exporting Egyptian gas to Israel. She praised those who commit such crimes as “heroes.” Many have been killed and injured in violence connected to Egyptian police efforts to stop these attacks.
> On November 6, 2012, Ms. Seif endorsed Al Qassam Brigades attacks on civilians. On that day, Amnesty International tweeted a “Demand that @netanyahu & @AlqassamBrigade stop attacks on civilians.” Ms. Seif publicly rejected the call, writing:“you don’t ask an occupied nation to stop their “Resistance” to end violence!!! SHAME ON YOU!”
> On November 20, 2012, Ms. Seif endorsed the arming of Gaza terrorist groups. On that day, Amnesty International tweeted: “Stop the madness! Share this image if you want an arms embargo on all sides #Israel#Hamas #Gaza.” The image showed innocent civilians in Israel andGaza. Seif responded: “@amnesty & @hrw r leading a shameful campaign asking Palestinians under occupation & non stop air strikes 2 stop their resistance!”
http://www.unwatch.org/tonight-un-rights-chief-navi-pillay-to-headline-prize-ceremony-with-terror-sympathizer-mona-seif/
So I’m recording the second skypecast for Global Voices, talking with Sokari Ekine about the “war on terror”
https://web.archive.org/web/20050625084308/http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?cat=7
She is a founding member of the Niger Delta Women for Justice
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2989736/
"The Niger Delta Women for Justice is concerned that military force rather than dialogue is now being employed as a solution to the issues of neglect, poverty, environmental degradation and social justice in the Niger Delta," Jennifer Pere, the organisation’s director, said.
http://www.irinnews.org/report/10557/nigeria-niger-delta-women-call-talks
Prior to the massacre, twelve members of the Nigerian police were murdered by a gang near Odi, seven on November 4 and the remainder in the following days.[1] In revenge, the military decided to invade the village but there are reports that the army was ambushed close to the village thus tensions soared…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odi_massacre
Shaun Attwood, Prison Blogger
https://web.archive.org/web/20050625084308/http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?cat=7
Shaun Attwood is a former stock-market millionaire and Ecstasy distributor turned public speaker, author and activist, who is banned from the United States for life.
According to his book Party Time, Attwood operated in association with and under the protection of the New Mexican Mafia. He eventually gave up dealing after Sammy the Bull Gravano's crew knocked the teeth out of Attwood's top Ecstasy salesperson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Attwood
I'm on hold right now, listening to him interview Rebecca MacKinnon, Hossein Derakhshan and a grab-bag of bloggers from around the world.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050625084308/http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?cat=7
SOAS graduate Hossein Derakhshan, currently held in the notorious Evin prison in Tehran, has “confessed” to being a spy for Israeli espionage agency Mossad.
https://web.archive.org/web/20081205082530/http://www.london-student.net/2008/12/01/facing-execution/
Global Voices was a Soros project.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041026225827/http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/
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d0bd77 No.323047
>>322964
>The crux of the issue is the English Wikipedia Arbcom finding any reason to fault the submitter and protect the admin. Had an editor been accused of half of this they would have been blocked. But because its an admin we are talking about, the EnWP arbcom will go far out of their way to ensure that admin is protected. Since TDA has been a critic of the Arbcom and case decisions in the past, this was a good opportunity for them to silence another critic. It also doesn't matter if there is financial gain, there is a clear COI involved and needs to be addressed. What's worse is that I have figured out who this is (through a lot of digging through edit summaries and other stuff) and I anticipate this admin will get identified in the fairly neat future and the result will be them getting desysopped at the least. That is, in turn, going to make the Arbcom look extremely stupid and petty. You put too much faith and trust in the Arbcom, some of us have more experience with their conduct. Reguyla (talk) 13:38, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Ooh, the suspense is killing me now. I would dig around to figure out whom this is myself but I just don't have the time.
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d0bd77 No.323060
>The activities at the GG page have gained high interest from GG-related forums (which I monitor for purposes of watching for potential disruption), and the various activities of editors that these GG forums see as anti-GG are often under close attention (and often leading to ridicule and harassment). MarkBernstein has been one such editor following GG ArbCom case, and because of their actions related to the handling of GG administration, Gamaliel has also attracted similar attention, a fact Gamaliel has indicated in their previous comments. So as such, when these Signpost/BLP issues arose from Gamaliel, with DHeyward's involvement, this quickly garnered attention offsite. That said, I cannot tell if anyone from those threads came to WP to pile on Gamaliel as a result, it's definitely not obvious if that's the case, but I can't rule it out either. (Keep in mind this case itself is also the center of attention there as well, but again, I'm not seeing obvious signs of meatpuppetry or the like going on simply from it being discussed there). –MASEM (t) 21:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Masem!
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d0bd77 No.323062
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d0bd77 No.323088
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d0bd77 No.323092
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=15569299
To be fair, other than the topic ban, the restrictions against me had a general effect. I had been the one to suggest the sanctions in lieu of a ban, so I understood that. However, I did have a certain expectation that reporting the misconduct of others privately would not be used against me. What is truly ridiculous about the GG case is that despite all the criticism about them being too harsh on the anti-GG side, they had more than enough private evidence from me of prior misconduct just over the previous year to justify a site-ban against another of the anti-GG parties, but decided this misconduct was "irrelevant" to the case despite citing every little action taken against me since 2009 in justifying a site-ban. Had I not offered those sanctions they would have done it.
As far as their cause, I am a little sketchy on it now. I don't see how they could possibly argue sincerely that there are no COI issues presuming the admin is the person I identified, but even before the more damning evidence I found during this discussion I feel there was more than enough to say my allegations were anything but "baseless" as some have characterized them. Should they really agree with me that the admin is the person I identified then I don't think they are being even remotely honest and I would say at least one of them is outright lying about the whole thing. One thing I can state for certain is they would be showing a glaring double standard.–The Devil's Advocate (talk) 20:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.323095
More juicy drama off Jimbo's meta talk:
> Over the last few months since James Heilman was 'thrown under the bus', The main place for discussion on this, the Wikimedia-l mailing list has now been taken over by weak and pathetic admins who seem to think they can moderate anyone that asks a question THEY do not like and rejections would always be followed by "not a positive comment"..seriously, what is this? North Korea? Are you Jim-Mi-Wales, our not-so benevolent leader who does not like people criticising or under-mining him? ..If people cannot ask questions or make points using the wikimedia-l, the ONLY transparent (or it used to be) part of the WMF and possibly the ONLY place where staff and board member actually reply to comments, then you may expect them to go elsewhere, maybe other news sites or blog who would happily bring WMF down a few pegs….Control your minions jimmy, right now wikimedia may very well be on Defcon-4.. lets not push it to the next level..–Stemoc 05:47, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.323121
>Per his request, communicated off-wiki to the Committee, Gamaliel is indefinitely restricted from taking any action to enforce any arbitration decision within the GamerGate topic, broadly construed. Any violation of this motion must be reported to WP:ARCA. He may appeal this remedy after 12 months to the Arbitration Committee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&oldid=717981233#Arbitration_motion_restricting_Gamaliel
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d0bd77 No.323131
>>323121
Gams is practicing self-harm now? LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!
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d0bd77 No.323170
Looks like the Wikipedia article might slowly improve over time. We'll see what sort of autismal response this will get though.
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d0bd77 No.323171
>>323170
I wouldn't at all be surprised if that INVOLVED fucker GorillaWarfare starts policing the page now in lieu of her "dear friend's" absence.
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d0bd77 No.323172
>>323131
The goal of this is to weasel out of formal sanctions and scrutiny, not really to punish himself.
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d0bd77 No.323273
>>323047
> 00:14, 30 April 2016 Az1568 (talk | contribs) changed block settings for Reguyla (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of infinite (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Per global block: Re-block for abuse of emailuser feature. Blatant refusal to follow Meta-wiki policy as posted on WM:URB, and using Meta as their personal soapbox despite repeated warnings not to do so.)
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7625
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d0bd77 No.323325
Mark Bernstein has not been taking his topic ban very well and is even more loony than usual, seeing Gamergate everywhere and showing zero intent to back away from the topic area at all.
He was brought to AE yesterday over him following DHeyward around (they still have the topic ban of each other), although this incident happened on the Gamaliel arbitration case pages so it may not be seen as a t-ban violation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=718577242#MarkBernstein
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d0bd77 No.323331
>>316764
>>316764
>As for the sockpuppetry claims, if Wikipedia banned everybody who edited a page because the subject was on Reddit or going around social media or in the news, there would be no editors left.
Don't you know? that's the idea.
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d0bd77 No.323354
>>323331
The encyclopedia anyone can edit if you're part of an insular and incestuous cabal of paid PR fluffers.
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d0bd77 No.323374
>>323325
I don't think he can keep himself away. He's going to get blocked eventually.
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d0bd77 No.323381
It looks like Ylevental has joined the Burn It Down caucus. From ANI:
> He vandalized Wikipedia in this dif late on April 8, changing the name "Sanders" in a citation to "Hitler". He was reverted by another user; I saw it and warned him that this was not acceptable.
> He wrote to me that he has installed an extension on his browser that changes "Sanders" to "Hitler" that he uses on other websites and forgot to turn it off when he came to Wikipedia. I told him "it's my browser not me" is a bad answer, and he should never do this again. That diff was on an autism-related article and I thought it was some kind of autism universe politics thing. Still unacceptable.
> He has done it again, now changing "Hillary" to "Hitlerly". OK, so I get it now, this is plain old politics. Whatever.
It's just my browser extension guys! Jytdog is a faggot.
Oops, there it goes again! Jytdog is a faggot.
Help! Jytdog is a faggot. I can't turn off my browser extensions! Jytdog is a faggot.
and screw you Ylevental for making me agree with Jytdog, he handled that well.
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d0bd77 No.323386
from Jake Orlowitz
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-May/084010.html:
> 1) Several staff, including myself, explicitly sought out Board members whom they did not view as a directly loyal conduit to Lila, precisely because they feared retribution from them/her.
>2) The whistleblower policy was indeed insufficient because even very serious ethical complaints raised did not rise to the level of strict illegality.
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d0bd77 No.323446
One of the "recused" clerks removed some evidence earlier and reverted after people started questioning why a "recused" clerk is removing shit. He claims he "forgot" he was recused and that someone had emailed the clerk's list to request the evidence be removed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Evidence&oldid=719027589#Removal_of_Evidence_by_Ryk72
Soon after, Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez had another ArbCom member submit his evidence for him at the last minutes before the evidence phase ended, this included opposition research on other editors to try and prove they are "Gamergate" literally raping women based off their account creation and edit histories. Remember that the arbs have been purging any evidence involving Robbie's actions regarding Gamergate and declared it out of scope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=719004474
The clerks were bitching at editors early on about their word counts yet didn't seem to do shit about Robbie's "coda" that he had Drmies post for him, so this evidence will likely be allowed to stay as is since clearly the fix is in.
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d0bd77 No.323451
Remember that the case is about whether ArbCommies should work the pedia under the same rules as us plebs. It was opened because an admin closed a discussion about a user's rule vios because the subject was on ArbCom. To defend himself against the charge that ArbCommies have special privileges, Gamaliel presented evidence about a subject that has been removed as out of scope whenever anyone else posts about it, exceeded the word limit that has been enforced against other users, and sent it through a private channel not available to average users.
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d0bd77 No.323452
Meanwhile on Wikipedia's Alt-Right page, Grayfell, MjollnirPants, and Ogress are bravely defending Wikipedia's "all alt-right are Nazis" stance against those well known conservatives Evergreenfir and Doug Weller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alt-right
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d0bd77 No.323470
>>323451
To be fair though, did it not work out in the end in the fact that they were caught so blatantly trying to rig shit to avoid punishing the faggot Gamaliel that in the end, he had to take what amounted to being taken out back and kneecapped with a sledgehammer, via being banned from setting foot on the Gamergate article or related articles until further notice?
I mean, it sucks that the faggot didn't get officially banned and kicked off Arbcom, but at least we shamed those corrupt shit into forcing Gamaliel to take what amounted to a plea bargain that accomplished stopping him in terms of keeping him from continuing his reign of terror on Gamergate related articles.
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d0bd77 No.323490
>>323452
And the articles's on lockdown.
I have to wonder if the usual suspects waited until the dead of night to write their slanderous article THEN locked it down as soon as they published it to keep anyone and everyone from trying to rewrite it to make it actually actual.
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d0bd77 No.323491
>>323470
As >>323172 said, while it's great that he has self-banhammered himself, the fact remains that we desperately needed an OFFICIAL banning if not full-on stripping of his powers/Arbcom status.
At best, this is a temp measure and in 12 months time, he'll be back fucking shit up. But until then, he'll still have a wide range of powers to fuck over people left and right in all sorts of other positions. We need Arbcom to put the fucker down with a bullet to the brain fashion and dump him in the town square to rot and be torn apart by wild dogs.
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d0bd77 No.323492
>>323491
>>Continued.
He only agreed to self-ban himself because his wiki-trial was so obviously rigged (especially with the bit about having someone else post his crap to circumvent the fact that he used up his word count maximum for his defense), that the cabal has to do SOMETHING to show that they were not bending backwards to protect a corrupt as fuck Arbcom member from the rules they mercilessly apply upon others.
Getting him to take a "time out" lets them get around the backlash on passing down a verdict that will prove that Wikipedia operates on the "Some animals are more equal than others" principal. I would not be shocked if the case stalls now and we don't get a verdict at all or a "hung jury" verdict. That lets them bury the whole thing, while Gam waits out his year long time out.
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d0bd77 No.323495
>>323491
>>Continued.
He only agreed to self-ban himself because his wiki-trial was so obviously rigged (especially with the bit about having someone else post his crap to circumvent the fact that he used up his word count maximum for his defense), that the cabal has to do SOMETHING to show that they were not bending backwards to protect a corrupt as fuck Arbcom member from the rules they mercilessly apply upon others.
Getting him to take a "time out" lets them get around the backlash on passing down a verdict that will prove that Wikipedia operates on the "Some animals are more equal than others" principal. I would not be shocked if the case stalls now and we don't get a verdict at all or a "hung jury" verdict. That lets them bury the whole thing, while Gam waits out his year long time out.
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d0bd77 No.323529
>>323495
Whatever happens, it does not guarantee Gamaliel will not have someone act on his behalf to dodge regulations, which he has demonstrated he is more than willing to do, and quite blatantly at that.
It also does not guarantee he will not slip up and forget he is topic banned or that Arbcom will not continue trimming any evidence that crops up against him and reverse the topic ban. due to evidence favoring him.
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d0bd77 No.323570
Hey look, it's another private backchannel.
> That discussion happened on Skype, so I can't link to it. The community never expressed the view that the wording [(Redacted), expressly hyperlinked to April Fools' Day, on a page explicitly marked "This page contains material which is kept because it is considered humorous. Please do not take it seriously." and dated "1 April 2016" was a BLP violation. The community however did express the view that a standalone page with that text in Wikipedia project space, with a dummy date obscuring the April Fools link, was a BLP violation, because the link to April Fools' Day was not explicit enough. I sympathised with that view. As I explained in our discussion at ANI weeks ago, I thought using a falsely dated dummy page with that content was a mistake. Andreas JN466 16:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
> (edit conflict) Cringe. Jayen466, can you honestly not see what stating that "we held an off-wiki discussion to agree on our party line" (and I see no other way to read the above) looks like when you're trying to refute the allegation that the Signpost see themselves as an elite who exist above Wikipedia's standard practices? ‑ Iridescent 16:32, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Workshop&diff=719565082&oldid=719564189
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d0bd77 No.323597
>The material was posted on an infamous Gamergate forum. You're framing it as if it was a couple of nobodies' reasoned - albeit vulgar - disagreement with Gamaliel. It was a link to a Gamergate subreddit. That alone warrants revdel'ing, never mind the insults towards Gamaliel. Izkala (talk) 17:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Spooky.
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d0bd77 No.323609
>>323597
> It was a link to a Gamergate subreddit. That alone warrants revdel'ing, never mind the insults towards Gamaliel. Izkala (talk) 17:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
> by which policy? - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 18:35, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Kek. And the Reddit subs forbid doxing, outing, etc and they still won't allow them.
To answer the question of where did this asshole come from, Izkala is a developer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=prev&oldid=690473412
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106100
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Lua&diff=671748232&oldid=671747859
Mastcell showed up at the workshop to defend Gamaliel with arguments amounting to "I would have done the same stupid shit" and then the_ed17 chimed in with "Mastcell, great posts" after Mastcell got destroyed again and again by TParis and Ryk72 citing policies. No, those were shit posts and you're a shit person for trolling the thread to defend your buddy.
Interesting: Ryk72 started his wikicareer for getting indeffed twice for opposing the Chinese government party line on the Senkaku Islands dispute. That was a different set of editors and admins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryk72#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ryk72
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d0bd77 No.323610
Wait a minute.
> Delete – Wikipedia shame for the embarrassing wp:administrator action from User:The ed17 and for the wp:edit warring three reverts one two three repeatedly replacing WP:BLP disputed content and accusing users of WP:VANDALISM as he did it,(Reverted to revision 713976866 by Gamaliel: Please stop vandalizing the current issue of the Signpost) by User:Gamaliel, a wp:arbitration committee member Govindaharihari (talk) 05:52, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-03-17/News_and_notes
The_ed17 protected the 2010 Signpost page after Arkon blanked it citing BLP. He removed the protection an hour later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Evidence/Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-03-17/News_and_notes&action=history
The_ed17 banned Runescrape for presenting Gamaliel's twitter feed to ArbCom as evidence in this case. Was this an involved block?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Runescrape
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=714988603
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d0bd77 No.323620
>>323597
By the way I would really like to know the reddit pages that Ryk72 linked which were so heinous that Gamaliel decided to revdel them. If it's what I think it is this should be pretty damning.
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d0bd77 No.323621
>>323609
So he started his career defeating unjust sockpuppet accusations. That's the number one tactic crony admins use to silence newbies with opinions they don't like. I've been on the receiving end of it myself but didn't know enough about policy to fight it. Pretty badass.
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d0bd77 No.323629
>>323610
The_ed17 aka WMF employee Ed Erhart is friends with Gamaliel and the other 'SJW' types and has been playing the role of the "uninvolved" administrator.
Rule 2: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Arbitration_Committee#How_to_win_at_ArbCom_every_time.2C_guaranteed.21
>Find a loyal administrator, but do not let him get involved on your RFAR! You will need him to watchlist the ArbCom case and block any "trolls", IPs, or young accounts trying to bring evidence against you. Allow, of course, them to bring evidence against your opponent, whether the evidence be true or not.
>>323620
There were 2-3 links posted from KotakuInAction and WikiInAction that were about a March 2016 Conflict of Interest discussion about MarkBernstein on the Brianna Wu talk page and Mark and Gamaliel's actions to cover it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brianna_Wu&oldid=714628975#One_of_the_editors_to_this_article_appears_to_have_discussed_it_with_the_subject
(http://archive.is/s2gJv#selection-2489.0-2489.80)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brianna_Wu&diff=prev&oldid=708625808
(http://archive.is/B7uLo)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brianna_Wu&oldid=709614468#500.2F30_restrictions
(http://archive.is/ZmL40#selection-2887.0-2903.28)
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d0bd77 No.323639
Is the site busted again? At least two posts after >>323609 that were here yesterday aren't showing up. Maybe posting again will unclog things.
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d0bd77 No.323746
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d0bd77 No.323766
>>323746
I bet he'll be back in a week to get his ass permablocked.
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d0bd77 No.323841
Moving Beyond Regulatory Mechanisms: A Typology of Internet Control Regimes
by Richard "Pete" Hunt
http://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2802&context=open_access_etds
The author works for Beutler Ink, the PR firm of Wikimedia DC Communications Committee member William Beutler. Haven't read it yet.
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d0bd77 No.324022
Despite Mark Bernstein pleading for administrators not to do it and wanting them to wait for Gamaliel to shit up the discussion, the topic ban between MarkBernstein, DHeyward, and Thargor Orlando has been lifted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=721109320
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d0bd77 No.324078
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d0bd77 No.324080
>>324022
Is there a reason he is desperate for the interaction ban staying into effect? Especially since he doesn't seem to give a fuck about following it?
Or is a case of him wanting it to stay in effect to silence the others from calling him out on his bullshit, since his powerful friends ensure that while he's supposed to be banned from interacting with them too, he can break the ban with impunity and no repercussion, while the others would be permanently banhammered if they did so?
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d0bd77 No.324099
>>324080
>he can break the ban with impunity and no repercussion, while the others would be permanently banhammered if they did so?
This. Mark and Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez were using it to keep DHeyward (an editor they both hate) under their thumb.
One of the anti-GG "horsemen of Wikibias" called Tarc was site banned last year for continual poor behavior and for harassing Masem off-wiki. After his ban, he was continuing to target 'pro-Gamergate' editors including DHeyward. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tarc&oldid=681707596#Indefinitely_banned
MarkBernstein was supporting Tarc on Twitter/Wikipedia/his blog, DHeyward complained about this on-wiki (without explicitly naming Mark) and Gamaliel rev del'd his comment and told DHeyward over email that he wasn't going to block him over it, so long as he didn't repost it. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DHeyward&diff=prev&oldid=689575562
This wasn't enough for Mark, who was furiously emailing Gamaliel for a pound of flesh, so Gamaliel told him to see HJ Mitchell for a "second opinion" and HJ blocked DHeyward. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HJ_Mitchell&diff=prev&oldid=689653799
DHeyward had it reviewd at AN and both the rev del and the block were undone. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=689693939
Gamaliel got butthurt and then changed the topic ban to allow them to file AE requests against one another, the very thing he said was the reason for the topic ban back when he implemented it. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=689697166
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d0bd77 No.324117
With the Proposed Decision coming in a few days, Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez has resigned as an arbitrator, claiming he is unable to edit Wikipedia (while still being active on Facebook, Twitter, Commons, etc.).
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=721477089&oldid=721469835#Announcement_regarding_Gamaliel
He will likely be walking away with the CheckUser and Oversight tools unless the case against him removes them (someone already inquired about that on the discussion page), as well as any info he found from having access to the ArbCom mailing lists and private wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Announcement_regarding_Gamaliel
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d0bd77 No.324137
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d0bd77 No.324146
Auerbach is serving them their own medicine
> Wikipedia arbitration committee agree that Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez abused power, but leaning toward NO punishment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Proposed_decision
> ArbCom in a nutshell. Note that a female admin lost adminship for a SINGLE abuse, while Fernandez' multiple offenses somehow merit less.
> I hope that ArbCom does not enact such a patently sexist double standard, but so far that seems to be the case. Wikipedia is a boy's club.
> To @molly0x57: if Opabinia thinks desysopping Fernandez is "disproportionate," does she think Yngvadottir's desysop WASN'T disproportionate?
https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller/status/734482019170816000
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d0bd77 No.324299
>>309268
Wikimedia DC Technology Programs Committee https://archive.is/lHIpA
* James Hare - also Chair of Executive Committee
* Maite Fernández - "Tech Lady Mafia", Communications director @ICFJ https://archive.is/uBobT a Soros organization https://archive.is/WLfuC
* Emily Gonyer - "Activist", "White Privilege" https://archive.is/bYToy was hired by Gnome 2012-2013 https://archive.is/5fWZj at a time when feminists looted Gnome's treasury https://archive.is/EOvGw
* Shauna Gordon-McKeon - teaches the progressive stack https://archive.is/M3Jsr
* Aamir Khwaja - (common name)
* Mallory Knodel - appeared at Left Forum 2009 with two members of May First/People Link https://archive.is/ZZsxv a project of the The Center for Media Justice / MAG-Net https://archive.is/wYhB1 along with WAM https://archive.is/OEPzE
* Ed Summers - (nothing suspicious)
Maybe someone should mention this the next time there is a talk about institutional bias on Wikipedia.
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d0bd77 No.324342
TDA has released more [redacted] emails
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=15649899#Follow-up_e-mails
Also, how did we miss this? Censorship on wikimedia-l:
> Sup, guy who never replies to anyone on meta…Over the last few months since James Heilman was 'thrown under the bus', The main place for discussion on this, the Wikimedia-l mailing list has now been taken over by weak and pathetic admins who seem to think they can moderate anyone that asks a question THEY do not like and rejections would always be followed by "not a positive comment"..seriously, what is this? North Korea? Are you Jim-Mi-Wales, our not-so benevolent leader who does not like people criticising or under-mining him? ..If people cannot ask questions or make points using the wikimedia-l, the ONLY transparent (or it used to be) part of the WMF and possibly the ONLY place where staff and board member actually reply to comments, then you may expect them to go elsewhere, maybe other news sites or blog who would happily bring WMF down a few pegs….Control your minions jimmy, right now wikimedia may very well be on Defcon-4.. lets not push it to the next level..–Stemoc 05:47, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.324360
Looks like David Auerbach is finally getting in on the action now too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Proposed_decision&diff=722265345
I kind of wish he would stop budding into Wikipedia and just write some Slate articles about this crap already. It's kind of hard to write an objective piece when you end up part of the story.
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d0bd77 No.324363
>>324360
Not sure what spurred him to comment on Wikipedia itself but I'm seeing someone claiming that Fernandez was mocking Auerbach on Twitter within the last few days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Proposed_decision&diff=next&oldid=722214754
Possibly in response, Fernandez has conveniently deleted his Twitter. Not sure if he did it before or after Auerbach made his first posts there.
https://twitter.com/wikigamaliel
According to one of the arbitrators, Fernandez has also resigned from the board of directors of Wikimedia DC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel_and_others/Proposed_decision&diff=prev&oldid=722201938
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d0bd77 No.324373
On a side note, can someone explain the Signpost shit I keep seeing mentioned as the thing that finally got the gears moving to squash Gamaleil?
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d0bd77 No.324381
>>324373
The Signpost did an April Fool's edition which included a fake sidebar link claiming Donald Trump was suing the WMF over them mocking his "small hands" aka genitalia.
Days after April 1st, the 'joke' about Trump suing WMF remained and DHeyward tried to have it CSD tagged and deleted for being a BLP violation. This attempt was quashed by Gamaliel who removed the tag.
A few more days later, more people noticed it and began trying to get it removed as a BLP violation. The matter was brought to BLPN, where Gamaliel's friend Ed "The_ed17" Erhart tried to protect the page with the BLP violation intact. The incident was brought to ANI by Arkon, JzG aka Guy Chapman attempted to quickly close the ANI report with a jab at Trump in the summary. When Arkon reverted Chapman's close, Gamaliel edit warred to keep the report about himself closed.
As discussions continued at the noticeboards, Milowent,another one of Gamaliel's Signpost friends, began belittling people for seeing it as a BLP issue.
After the page was successfully blanked and deleted, Gamaliel began making WP:POINTy edits to his user page involving himself supposedly having 'small hands', including making a Small Hands user box which I believe had a link to an article about this lame insult against Trump. Gamaliel protected the 'small hands' page he made, then deleted it when it was brought to MfD.
After this there was more fighting with Gamaliel and other Signpost editors edit warring to keep their 'joke'. Eventually Mark Bernstein showed up and started blaming Gamergate for everything and Gamaliel joined in, claiming that nearly everyone who was taking issue with the BLP violation and with Gamaliel's behavior was solely there due to Gamergate.
Nearly two months later, Gamaliel finally admitted - privately to ArbCom - that he fucked up.
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d0bd77 No.324383
>>324381
Sounds like he doesn't regret what he did, rather he regrets that he faced consequences for what he did.
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d0bd77 No.324394
>>324299
Continuing the dig into Wikimedia DC, let's look at Audit Committee member Nicholas Michael Bashour
Nick: AutoGyro https://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Nicholas_Michael_Bashour
He works for ISC Intelligence https://archive.is/TKj6 a PR firm. http://iscintelligence.com/aboutisc.php https://archive.is/UoaN3
> ISC is a Brussels-based communication agency specializing in science, technology and R&D research and policy. ISC provides intelligence on science and innovation policy and programs and has over a decade of experience in innovation policy and science communication at European and international level.
Clean edit history. No sign of involvement in the science edit wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/AutoGyro&offset=&limit=500&target=AutoGyro
Promoted adminship for Sarah Stierch.
> #Support She's a great GLAM advocate. My only concern is that she won't get enough sleep because she already does a lot of great work :p but there's plenty of coffee for that –[[User:AutoGyro|AutoGyro]] ([[User talk:AutoGyro|talk]]) 16:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/SarahStierch&diff=prev&oldid=503792303
Nicholas Michael Bashour is a intern with the Center for Science, Technology, and Security Policy at the American Association for the Advancement of Science, where is supporting various Center initiatives and programs.
http://www.aaas.org/person/nicholas-bashour https://archive.is/1rBKK
What else is the American Association for the Advancement of Science involved with?
> Long-time blogger and tech executive Anil Dash announced today at the Web 2.0 Expo New York that he’s leaving publishing software company SixApart and will head a new technology incubator called Expert Labs … Expert Labs will be a part of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) and funded by the MacArthur Foundation … The organization will aim to facilitate production of applications to serve government. Those apps will be cloud-based.
(so the government data is no longer on government servers)
http://readwrite.com/2009/11/18/expert_labs_government_incubator/ https://archive.is/NEbLf
> George Clooney with Enough Project co-founder John Prendergast traveled to the Abeyi region of Sudan three months before the January 2011 referendum which would make South Sudan the world's newest nation. …
> Clooney and Prendergast returned from Sudan to Washington, D.C., and enlisted Enough Project Director of Communications Jonathan Hutson to help them determine whether a satellite surveillance operation along the contested border in Sudan was feasible. Hutson co-authored a concept memo with David Sullivan, Director of Research at the Enough Project, and contacted his colleagues Lars Bromley, formerly the head of the remote sensing and human rights program at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) and Nathaniel Raymond, a war crimes investigator at PHR.
http://hhi.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/publications/making-the-world-a-witness.pdf
David Sullivan of Global Network Initiative for UN Dispatch: #GamerGate vs the United Nations — "But the gamergate trolls have gone on from there[The UN Report] to target the entire issue of gender-based abuse and online violence."
https://www.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3ol3x2/david_sullivan_of_global_network_initiative_for/
Enough Project's PR was handled by FitzGibbon Media which was recently on Voat KiA
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-dipasquale-9768ba15 https://archive.is/9sIxz
https://voat.co/v/KotakuInAction/comments/1040428
TL;DR:
* He personally comes up clean.
* He has several relationships that could be avenues of misinformation.
* Some of these relationships have the power to threaten his career prospects.
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d0bd77 No.324395
>>324383
He's probably regretting it worse as he sees the Trump campaign ramp up with all those delegates under his belt
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d0bd77 No.324447
Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez has retired, allegedly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gamaliel&diff=prev&oldid=722401107
Fernandez also surrendered the CheckUser and Oversight tools, after ArbCom was voting to remove them. WMF employee Ed "The_ed17" Erhart told ArbCom the motion was, inexplicably, a breach of the WP:BLP policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions&oldid=722375996#Gamaliel.27s_CheckUser_and_Oversight_permissions
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d0bd77 No.324451
>>324447
Why doesn't he just say he's pulling a Nixon; resigning before he can be officially fired/stripped of power?
Or is he doing this so he can pull an "unretirement in a year or two" and exploit the fact that since there was no Arbcom banning of him, he can just waltz back into power with no consquences or restrictions due to his past bad behavior?
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d0bd77 No.324452
>>324451
Wikipediots tend to "retire" after flipping their shit over something, then just return days/weeks/months later.
Fernandez will most likely return soon after the case against him is closed.
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d0bd77 No.324460
>>324395
Speaking of which, I am not shocked that the cabal hasn't set up numerous hit piece pages badmouthing Trump (like pages dedicated to Trump being sexist/racist/a bad businessman and other Trump scandals simply to slime him on the website via countless pages attacking him.
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d0bd77 No.324583
http://archive.is/ZS3IS
>The Wikimedia Diversity Conference is designed to facilitate conversation and action on issues of diversity throughout the Wikimedia movement. The conference will feature speakers, panels, and workshops that outline the case for diversity and consider ways to address the movement’s key diversity challenges.
>The conference will be held at the National Archives in Washington, DC on June 17–18, 2016. The event will feature a keynote by Zoe Quinn, co-founder of the Crash Override Network; the full conference program will be announced after submissions have been evaluated.
>To learn more about the conference, please read our FAQ; attendees should also review the conference Safe Space Policy. To register for the conference, submit a session proposal, or sign up as a volunteer, please use the buttons below.
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d0bd77 No.324595
>>324460
If it wasnt for GG and how autistic we are Im sure they would have.
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d0bd77 No.324602
>>324583
and nobody sees that as a conflict of interest?
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d0bd77 No.324683
>>324447
Not good enough. This piece of shit has been abusing his admin tools when it comes to political topics for years now. He needs a desysop already.
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d0bd77 No.324684
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Artw&diff=723404445
>I have deleted your grossly insulting remark on Talk:Gamergate. I'm not going to issue a block at this time, but please be aware that there is a very low tolerance for comments like that on this topic area. Discuss the content, not the editor. The WordsmithTalk to me 20:14, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Looks like Jorm and Artw have decided to start parroting Bernstein's conspiratorial personal attacks. Seems like a big mistake to me. Does fearless returning admin The Wordsmith have the guts to finally remove these bad actors from the picture?
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d0bd77 No.324685
>>322443
> SlimVirgin started rattling the saber and screaming "HARASSMENT" in an attempt to defend Gamaliel by blaming it all on Gooberglob/DHeyward
>>322498
> The likely sockmaster (WP:MEAT Mistress?) SlimVirgin crawled out of the shadows to say the ArbCom report is harassment by Gamergate.
Chip Berlet is a member of the National Lawyers Guild and ran the leftist think tank Political Research Associates which specialized in calling people racist and right-wing
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6505
ED claims (needs verification): Berlet came to Wikipedia at the invitation of SlimVirgin in 2004
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Chip_Berlet
Chip Berlet, SlimVirgin, and Wikipedia
http://www.geocities.ws/berletwatch/virgin.htm
The Wikipedia insiders are quite hostile to LaRouche, due to their friendship with longtime LaRouche critic Chip Berlet.
Unfortunately, much of the history of this 2004-2005 war was purged by the usual corrupt gang of Wikipedia adminns, the so-called Cabal, especially the notorious Slimvirgin
http://wikihell.blogspot.com/2009/08/herschelkrustofsky-of-wikipedia-review.html
She's very supportive of anything Chip Berlet tries to push on Wikipedia, for those of you who know who Chip Berlet is.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8247
Look at SlimVirgin defending Chip Berlet here. We also see Hipocrite dodging the question of why Berlet is considered reliable and David Horowitz is not when both are equally partisan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chip_Berlet/Archive_2
Hipocrite again:
User:Hipocrite has taken it upon himself to comb through the encyclopedia and delete any references sourced to DTN. Hipocrite claims that DTN is in violation of the guideline WP:RS. The only evidence presented by Hipocrite is here where he states "I looked at the website, and determined it was not a reliable source." I posit that until we have reached a consensus about the reliability of said source, Hipocrite should cease his deletion of sourced material from this and many other articles. Cheers. L0b0t 15:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Political_Research_Associates
Herschelkrustofsky:
Early this year, prior to the imposition of my one-year block, I authored an article called "Gatekeeper (politics)" which caused a great hue and cry, because it involved criticism of Wikipedia's favored source cum editor, Chip Berlet. There was a nomination for deletion, which was hotly contested, and then FCYTravis simply declared that there was a "nascent consensus" to move to "Gatekeeping (communications)," a stub with none of the other article retained.
At the time, I archived the other article here, perhaps due a premonition of what was to come. I looked today, and discovered that the history of the original article is now gone, replaced with this. The only edit listed prior to moving is this one, where it says "This version of the page has been revised. Besides normal editing, the reason for revision may have been that this version contains
http://www.wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=4538
Ten years ago Wikipedia's admins were honoring an unreliable left-wing extremist and banning his detractors, and SlimVirgin was in the lead.
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d0bd77 No.324716
>>324583
Holy hell the amount of undue influence this trust-fund charlatan has never ceases to amaze me. What in the actual fuck does Chelsea van Valkenburg know about diversity or running wikis?
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d0bd77 No.324718
>>324716
Maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but it sounds like a possible attempt by Valkenburger to gain at the very least a bit of influence on decisions made by the powers that be on WP, even if the only way she can make changes is by way of proxy. They would not risk giving her an official position within the WMF or administration, since it would be a COI of suicidal proportions, but if VB makes any friends in high places, there is a possibility she can get the more fanatical individuals to act on her behalf.
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d0bd77 No.324719
>>324460
They wouldn't risk that either, because they don't want to be discredited on national television.
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d0bd77 No.324783
>>324716
>>324583
You really have to wonder how a lily-white child of privilege without any real accomplishments to their name somehow qualifies as a diversity icon.
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d0bd77 No.324800
WP Signpost publishes fluff autobio of Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-05-28/Op-ed
at the same time he is pushing for a Code of Conduct on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Grants:IdeaLab/Propose%20Wikimedia%20Code%20of%20Conduct%20(adapted%20from%20open%20source%20Contributor%20Covenant)
The Wordsmith is redpilled
> The way it has been weaponized on Github to ban people for holding political opinions offsite that they dislike, would be the death knell.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7802
Orlowitz invited PR companies to Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Corporate_Representatives_for_Ethical_Wikipedia_Engagement
Organizations Jake supports: https://archive.is/YFGl3
* Open Society Foundations (that means George Soros)
Publications:
* Learning to Speak in Wikipedia's Language: Public Relations and The Free Encyclopedia
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d0bd77 No.324804
>>324800
Orlowitz / Ocaasi dig continued
who he tagged in to look at his CoC: https://archive.is/ejy6E
* @artandfeminism
* @afroCROWDit
* @WikiWomenInRed - Wikiproject Women In Red.
* @WikiWomen
* @wikimediapolicy
Art+Feminism is explicitly a left-wing activist group.
Tumblr created early 2014 or late 2013
https://web.archive.org/web/20140127184041/http://artandfeminism.tumblr.com/
They held an editathon in February 2014 at dozens of locations worldwide
https://web.archive.org/web/20140127184041/https://www.facebook.com/events/675820979135428/?previousaction=join&source=1
Orgnized by:
* Siân Evans - Art Libraries Society of North America’s Women and Art Special Interest Group
* Jacqueline Mabey - The office of failed projects. Trained in "cultural studies" at McGill https://archive.is/H7KEM
* Michael Mandiberg - artist. Faculty at CUNY Graduate Center (where Feminist Frequency secretary Katherine Cross worked) https://archive.is/ruv3H
* Laurel Ptak - Eyebeam Fellow, part-time faculty at the New School (Frankfurt School) https://archive.is/5yo48
* Richard Knipel - Wikimedia NYC.
* Dorothy Howard - Metropolitan New York Library Council, Wikimedia NYC
published in Dazed Digital
> Fighting the Wikipedia boys’ club
> Radical groups like Art+Feminism are calling on girls to reclaim the wiki-verse for themselves – here’s why editing your gender is the new activism
http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/23426/1/fighting-the-wikipedia-boys-club https://archive.is/IqDUO
Michael Mandiberg wrote a fictional article about nonexistent Gamergate harassment for Social Text Journal
http://socialtextjournal.org/affective-labor-of-wikipedia-gamergate/ https://archive.is/M6BlM
Afrocrowd'
Twitter: https://archive.is/FmbOV
> Increasing the number of people of African Descent who edit #wikipedia
founded by Alice Backer of Global Voices, mentioned earlier >>315034
https://twitter.com/kiskeacity https://archive.is/q91Np
Wikiproject Women In Red creates biographical article pages for women who don't have pages yet, some of whom may or may not meet GNG.
There are a few familiar names on their Video Games to-do list: Stephanie Barish (Indiecade/Annenberg), Celea Pearce
However, it does not look like a conscious effort to promote the clique. They're just some names in a larger list and may legit pass GNG.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Video_games https://archive.is/WMHWm
The list was built by Alafarge and Megalibrarygirl who do not seem to be involved in GG.
The group received promotional PR from the Guardian on March 19 2016
http://archive.is/dkOjP
Wikiwomen's Collaborative
Twitter: https://archive.is/caRfN
Wikimedia Policy
Twitter https://archive.is/lfSVC
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d0bd77 No.324809
>>324804
So right off the bat we have at least one possible connection to Feminist Frequency within Art+Feminism and confirmed AGG (Michael Mandiberg). Given it is a Tumblr group, I recommend digging further for membership by or connections to the other Literally Whos. If there are, than having this put into effect would give them a chance to directly influence global policy.
There should also be efforts to spread awareness of this proposed policy. In particular, I point out the following:
>Much harassment happens off-Wikipedia, away from the rules of our projects and without any direct link to particular users
>"This is also an endemic problem to online bullying and abuse. We simply will do the best we can, and hopefully will catch some of these cases and deter others from engaging in off-Wikipedia collaboration by doing so."
This is very, and possibly deliberately, vague. It looks like it could be used as a backdoor for them to remove opposition by exploiting the lack of direct, concrete ties between off-wiki threads and editors, even fabricating evidence to that end.
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d0bd77 No.324818
John S. Johnson is the Director of the Harmony Institute, a research organization that studies the application of behavioral science to communication in media. He consults with media creatives, socially conscious film funds, and production companies to help their work achieve concrete, positive change in specific target constituencies. He is co-founder of buzzfeed.com, a trend detector and platform for transmitting contagious media, and is the founder of Eyebeam, a MacArthur and NEA funded non-profit art and technology laboratory in New York City. John is a Henry Crown Fellow at the Aspen Institute and is editor of a book in production titled The Economics of Creative Practice: Models and Case Studies for Artists.
http://screenwriterscolony.org/portfolio-item/john-s-johnson/ https://archive.is/mfgqd
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d0bd77 No.324819
Harmony Institute of New York 2013 990
http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/262/262506162/262506162_201312_990.pdf
* John S. Johnson III - Executive director
* Adam Wolfensohn - VP. Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Co-managing partner of Encourage Capital. trustee of the Brooklyn Academy of Music, Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors, the Harmony Institute, Bang on a Can and the Wolfensohn Family Foundation. https://archive.is/5BRDs
* Emma Canarick - Secretary. Director of Capacity Building of the Pacific Fund at the Atlantic Foundation https://archive.is/qamMY
* Jonah Peretti - Director. Co-founder of Buzzfeed
* Jed Alpert - Director
* Debika Shome - Deputy director; also managed Harmony's books. Works in "social impact measurement, and strategic communication." https://archive.is/nHmPN
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d0bd77 No.324820
Eyebeam hosted a "critical forum"
Also visit Eyebeam's online forum OPEN_SOURCE ARCHITECTURE: The Future Art Space, (July 9-August 10) a critical forum utilizing the model of open source code to discuss the convergence of new media art and architectural space.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020127150649/http://www.eyebeam.org/
The link redirects to http://b.parsons.edu/~eyebeam/
Parsons is the New School.
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d0bd77 No.324821
Couldn't we have kept this thread shorter by saying "assume anyone connected to the arts is interested in social justice unless they publicly deny it"?
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d0bd77 No.324826
>>324821
no, there are detectable efforts by powerful people to target and capture artist communities and use them as proxy armies in politics, business, and war. Artists are great at invoking emotions in the public and are not known for being excellent logicians, which makes artists a high value/low risk target for propagandists. An artist may be swayed by an emotional fallacy, amplify the message, and not catch on that he is being used.
Most of "social justice" was made up recently. Nobody is naturally supportive of what does not exist. People had to be told to support it.
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d0bd77 No.324894
>>324800
Nice dig but you missed the big red flag:
> Note: The National Suicide Prevention Hotline is toll-free in the US and available 24/7 at 1-800-273-8255. suicide.org has a list of international suicide hotlines, including Australia, Canada, the UK and many other countries across the world.
National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention
http://actionallianceforsuicideprevention.org/leadership https://archive.is/tlyvx
2015 membership list: https://web.archive.org/web/20150316070053/http://actionallianceforsuicideprevention.org/leadership
* Ben Sawyer of DigitalMill (the first Games For Change)
* Marie Dyak of Entertainment Industries Council (promoted iFred which stood to make money from Depression Quest if it sold well)
* Kevin Jennings, founder of the Gay-Straight Alliance network
* David McFarland of United for Equality in Sports and Entertainment
* Facebook's marketing manager Rita Fabi and chief security officer Joe Sullivan
* and according to Wikipedia the group once included Charles Robbins of the Trevor Project
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_Alliance_for_Suicide_Prevention https://archive.is/MqHaU
We might not know if they are involved in GG but there are several arrows pointing in their direction and this would explain where all of the gay aGGros came from. And they are US Govt funded.
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d0bd77 No.324904
>>324821
Collective guilt, blanket accusations, and guilty until proven innocent attitudes are the enemy's weapons. It's exactly what we're fighting.
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d0bd77 No.324979
Floydian talks sports!
> Aside from Gretzky, who likely has several decades ahead of him, Howe is as significant to his sport as Clay was to his. I'm not sure how to word his significance in an objective way aside from the fact that Howe played hockey for almost as many years as Gretzky has been alive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=prev&oldid=724720034
So what? Why is this here? Because it is at ANI. Wait, what? WHY?!??
Kicking222 (an admin!):
> Your Islamophobia was unneeded in your nomination, but thanks for sharing, I guess? Next time, maybe you should just discuss the article at hand and leave personal prejudices out of it. – Mike (Kicking222) 02:53, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=prev&oldid=724727409
Ritchie333 (an admin!):
> Xenophobia and racism is founded on ignorance. I hope Floydian now realises his incivility and will now be dropping the argument. Of course, he could just be recalling the final scene from Coming to America (though Eddie Murphy can get away with it as he's parodying stereotypes). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 07:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=724750905&oldid=724747199
Drmies (an admin!)
> Well, that's sweet. Longtime editors should know better. "I've never made any attempt to conform to political correctness nor to avoid offending someone" sounds all manly but is just ignorant; the one offended is Ali, who (duh) changed his name for well-known reasons. Using his birth name, which Ali of course called his "slave name", is typically done by white folk who still can't handle a black man being not just a good boxer but also an outspoken critic of the racism of his time. I don't know if it's straight-up racism, but it's a kind of race baiting. {{U|Floydian}}, it's been a few decades since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for instance–get over it. And, eh, what's wrong with avoiding offending other people? Isn't that one of the bases of civilized society? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 04:27, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=724736096&oldid=724734691
and from John (a sysop!) at Floydian's user talk page:
> This is trolling. Do it again and you'll be blocked. –John (talk) 14:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey Jimbo, do you want to know why Wikipedia is draining users? Your admins are insane.
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d0bd77 No.324986
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d0bd77 No.325205
Chelsea/Zoe was replaced at the Wikimedia Diversity Conference two days before the event. Not sure what happened.
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight - the co-founder of the WikiWomen's User Group and WikiProject Women in Red - was the new keynote speaker.
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d0bd77 No.325209
>>325205
What do we know about her? What kind of puns can we make out of her last name?
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d0bd77 No.325210
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d0bd77 No.325314
Wikipedia admin The Wordsmith has said that he was receiving harassment and death threats over email after he topic banned Mark Bernstein and made other administrative actions (or lack thereof) in the Gamergate topic area. Unfortunately for the ones harassing him, he didn't give a shit and has stayed in the area.
Now, the anti-Gamergaters have come up with another plan to get rid of him and are all saying that The Wordsmith is 'involved' with the topic area and can't make use of his admin tools there. (Yes, the same people who would defend Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez as being 'uninvolved')
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Artw&oldid=723729409#Personal_Attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=726261953
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d0bd77 No.325319
>>325205
Probably wanted more money than was promised her. Would explain why the whole ditching her thing went off without any consequences.
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d0bd77 No.325327
>>325314
> Now, the anti-Gamergaters have come up with another plan to get rid of him and are all saying that The Wordsmith is 'involved' with the topic area and can't make use of his admin tools there.
and look who it is.
>>324684
> Looks like Jorm and Artw have decided to start parroting Bernstein's conspiratorial personal attacks.
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d0bd77 No.325329
>>325314
>Wikipedia admin The Wordsmith has said that he was receiving harassment and death threats over email after he topic banned Mark Bernstein and made other administrative actions (or lack thereof) in the Gamergate topic area.
Source? It's not in any of your links and I've never seen him mention it on Wikipediocracy.
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d0bd77 No.325351
>>325329
It was on reddit, looks like he has since deleted the comments but there is an archive and some of them were quoted in the remaining posts.
http://archive.is/UzZm7#selection-2779.0-2779.110
He said he immediately began getting harassment when he supported topic banning Mark Bernstein.
>I left Wikipedia years ago, so I'm still from the old breed. The Demolition Man approach still works, and I'm more or less immune to harassment.
>On a related note to GG-ers and Anti-GGers: please stop sending me harassing emails and PMs and death threats. Its not going to work, they're getting redirected to /dev/null, and I'd rather not have to be annoyed by things like that. Mark I know you're reading this, so please pass it on to your followers that harassment is a bad thing.
Of course this will never be mentioned by Bernstein, who is currently claiming Gamergate has 'taken over' Wikipedia with blackmail. http://archive.is/Ypjsw
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d0bd77 No.325378
Wikipedia has decided that the Orlando massacre was a false flag conspiracy and the shooter was lying about doing it for Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks#Orlando_shooting
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d0bd77 No.325481
Jimbo is so upset at the Brexit that he has announced a new mission for Wikipedia:
> WIKIPEDIA, the world's largest online encyclopedia, should have an important role in the fight back against "post factual politics" that led to the racist and xenophobic rhetoric of the Leave campaign, its founder has claimed.
> "My views on the EU referendum were that I was pro Remain and so I am deeply disappointed," he said. "One of the most disturbing things about the campaign is the fear mongering and racist rhetoric. It has been conducted as post factual politics. It means that the debate has been less serious than it should have been.
> "One of the ways that we fight that type of rhetoric is by building knowledge and understanding. Of course, I'm biased – that's been my life's work – but people need to learn the facts and we need to help them build on that. We [Wikimedia] have an important part to play in this as we hope always to have in our culture. We want to have a positive role."
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14580499.Wikipedia_should_help_people_fightquot_racist_rhetoric_quot_says_founder/
https://archive.is/ZEEEE (nice quads)
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d0bd77 No.325483
Shit, I think I missed something juicy here. Anyone have any idea what happened?
I think it might be Bernstein/Matthew Hopkins related.
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d0bd77 No.325484
>>325483
Rhoark started a case called "Ethics in journalism," in it he cast aspersions about Vordrak (Hopkins) being responsible for blackmail and extortion of Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez due to Vordrak talking about sending an email to various places for comment about an article he was writing on his blog. Rhoark called upon ArbCom, Jimbo, David Auerbach and/or Allum Bokhari to speak out and expose Vordrak for the alleged "extortion". Rhoark also requested MarkBernstein be unblocked due to making him a case party, and Rhoark said he was no longer going to work on his draft for the Gamergate article, so that Vordrak couldn't get a 'win' by allegedly 'forcing' Gamaliel away from the topic area.
Vordrak complained to Oversight and they removed it. Jorm has sent the matter to WMF Legal.
In other news, Mark Bernstein may have been blocked on Twitter by Molly "GorillaWarfare" White as well as by Jimbo Wales after Mark was lashing out at them with his conspiracy talk. The salt was real: http://archive.is/gFK61#selection-12599.0-12605.126
Artw also made his predictable attack against The Wordsmith, but ANI was having none of it and it was closed with consensus that Wordsmith had not breached the INVOLVED policy in regards to Gamergate. A discussion was also had about a WP:BOOMERANG GG topic ban for Artw, but it didn't get traction before the close. http://archive.is/emESI#selection-17693.0-17703.18
Expect a lot of salt to come from all the incidents mentioned, as I doubt this will be the end of any of them.
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d0bd77 No.325494
>>325484
That doesn't sound very Rhoark-like to be honest. Vordrak is also the kind of retard who would do something like that.
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d0bd77 No.325495
>>325494
>Rhoark said he was no longer going to work on his draft for the Gamergate article, so that Vordrak couldn't get a 'win' by allegedly 'forcing' Gamaliel away from the topic area.
I mean this part, specifically.
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d0bd77 No.325499
OOPS! Jytdog exposed a "Brand Management" intern working on his own company's page by linking to his LinkedIn. Wikipedia considers that WP:Outing so GorillaWarfare indeffed him.
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d0bd77 No.325502
>>325499
Good fucking riddance to that menace, but I think the reasoning for that indefinite block may have been undeserved.
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d0bd77 No.325527
Whoever followed the Frank Gaffney edit war >>309160 might be interested in an early 2014 dispute involving Pamela Geller's group Stop Islamization of America.
Roscelese forced a false claim into Wikipedia that Pamela Geller inspired Anders Breivik to commit his massacre. Livingengine1 stood in their way with superior sources and BLP policy, so Jerichoman banned him while Bishonen and Drmies held an insult party on his talk page. It took five unblock requests before someone provided a diff of evidence against him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Livingengine1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_44#NPOV_violation_on_the_Wikipedia_article_on_Stop_Islamization_of_America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&oldid=595392329#Blocking_Livingengine1_for_edit-warring
And at ANI today someone is trying to add "Islamophobe" label to the Clarion Project which is an interfaith effort between Jews and liberal Muslims to warn people about hard-right Salafist extremism.
What's going on with Gaffney, Clarion, and SIOA is part of a trend in the wider Left of adopting the Muslim Brotherhood's policy of condemning all knowledge of the Brotherhood as "Islamophobia." They start with the fringe who say obviously bigoted things and then go on to denounce all professionals and academics studying the same topic area.
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d0bd77 No.325543
>>325502
> Good fucking riddance to that menace, but I think the reasoning for that indefinite block may have been undeserved.
Yeah, an indef for "outing" a PR hack using his real name on wiki is nuts. It's probably going to be overturned after a private chat with ArbCom and some public groveling.
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d0bd77 No.325547
Can we Sink this thread? It really has nothing to do with videogames and is just a lot of /pol/ bullshitting that's better put on their board. A six-month-old thread about e-celeb internet drama really doesn't need to take away from ops and more current projects.
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d0bd77 No.325549
>>325547
How about "no"
There is not reason to as it's an active (abait slow) thread and because, if GG taught me anything, people saying "you shouldn't talk about X" and "muh /pol/ boogiemans" make me very suspicious…
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d0bd77 No.325551
>>325547
We still regularly discuss GG topic area characters in here actually, which is definitely related to the board. I do agree that some of the stuff in here has been pretty off-topic lately though.
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d0bd77 No.325552
>>325547
Here's your (((You)))
>>325549
I've been seeing far more Wikipediots trying to run damage control on Wikipedia criticism/discussion sites as of late. Could easily just be an autist RRRREEEEEing that he doesn't like one thread in the catalog, though.
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d0bd77 No.325555
>>325552
It's not so much in isolation "don't talk about eCelebs!" because saying "Voldemort" will make ̶f̶a̶t̶ ̶r̶a̶l̶f̶ somehow more powerful …somehow Isn't a big a deal until pushed with "GG and /pol/ should be enemies, because "X"-thing, as -we- decided -is- a thing … is a thing!"-narrative.
Because both things, together, seem so CORPORATE AND ARTIFICIAL
It's weird.
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d0bd77 No.325562
>>325555
If it's real, relevant stuff, it ought to be a new thread. If it's not big enough to be its own thread, there's already a stickied general discussion thread.
It just feels like this thread should either be stickied or sunk, because it tends to wander off topic, or into the e-celeb weeds, and the conversation from 6 months ago is annoying to scroll past if I want to read what's going on, it's almost like a form of necrobumping.
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d0bd77 No.325575
>>325562
Then use the [Go to bottom] button on the big red bar you lazy faggot
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d0bd77 No.325576
>>325378
> Wikipedia has decided that the Orlando massacre was a false flag conspiracy and the shooter was lying about doing it for Islam
This is still going on as MrX is running around the admin boards trying to ban everyone who disagrees with him
> Yes, the RfC is unfortunately tainted. Apparently a number of Breitbart readers keep sleeper accounts here for such occasions. So much for the integrity of the process.- MrX 23:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
How dare those normies try to edit Wikipedia after reading the news and getting interested in a subject!
At AN (not I), Sfarney / Grammar's Little Helper says Wikipedia should leave this attack off the list because Obama and Loretta Lynch are not calling it Islamic.
> I should think Obama speaks for America – and for Wikipedia.
That's probably what WP considers a neutral POV.
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d0bd77 No.325577
>>313597
>claiming that mods are banning users for being antifeminist is overreaction or even lying. Last thing what we need is is overrection and twisting of facts from our side.
The only one lying here is you. Those cocksuckers have banned people for disagreeing with their PC bullshit, it's common knowledge.
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d0bd77 No.325580
>>325577
common knowledge is nice but evidence is better.
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d0bd77 No.325585
>>325576
>Yes, the RfC is unfortunately tainted. Apparently a number of Breitbart readers keep sleeper accounts here for such occasions.
The Encyclopedia that anyone (but Bretbart readers) can edit!
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d0bd77 No.325610
Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez is crying for David Auerbach to be fired from his job at Slate for "using Twitter as a libel machine" and supposedly being "Pro-Gamergate, pro-Brexit, anti-'SJW'". http://archive.is/18mQ6#selection-3307.0-3406.1
Fernandez cronies Adam Hyland (Wiki Education Foundation) and Ed Erhart (WMF) were also on scene, with Hyland calling for Auerbach to be fired. http://archive.is/KHQJF
After Fernandez' attacks, Auerbach was trying to talk to ArbCom member Molly "GorillaWarfare" White, who didn't want to get involved in a "twitter spat." http://archive.is/s3ypj
What triggered this tantrum from the goony beardmen? It seems that on July 1st, Auerbach sent a media inquiry to English Wikipedia ArbCom and Wikimedia DC asking whether Fernandez was back on the Board of Directors for Wikimedia DC (a position Fernandez was said to have resigned from during the ArbCom case against him: http://archive.is/szJNP), as indicated on Fernandez' Meta wiki User page. (http://archive.is/qtsEt) http://archive.is/dfnYb
Auerbach also tweeted at Emily "Keilana" Temple-Wood (an ArbCom member and a Wikimedia DC Board member) and she refused to say if Fernandez was on the BoD and eventually told him to go look at their website (http://archive.is/aFj8C), which was never altered to reflect Fernandez' claimed resignation. http://archive.is/XetXH
Lies and corruption all the way to the top, but you knew that.
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d0bd77 No.325622
>>325610
We got hit by a new disruption tactic when we began to discuss Gamaliel's harassment of David Auerbach. What a coincidence!
Method: reposting copies of old messages from the same thread. Using multiple IPs.
Time frame: 07/03/16 from 12:05 to 12:17
Details:
12:05:10 2206bc No.325613 (copy of 310705)
12:06:51 186574 No.325614 (copy of 310138)
12:08:30 0ed62a No.325615 (copy of 312261)
12:09:57 61b19e No.325616 (copy of 317461)
12:11:37 5591b1 No.325617 (copy of 317612)
12:14:03 31963c No.325618 (copy of 323047)
12:15:41 d27999 No.325619 (copy of 322602)
12:17:18 3b5fa0 No.325620 (copy of 322818)
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d0bd77 No.325625
>There was an edit war over whether or not the orlando attack was islamic terrorism.
Wikipedia was a mistake.
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d0bd77 No.325626
>>325610
@AuerbachKeller's twitter account is gone. Thanks to anons for the archives.
https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller*
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d0bd77 No.325629
>>325626
Gamaliel has now made his Twitter private (again) and removed "Member of the Board of Directors of Wikimedia District of Columbia." from his bio.
This morning Fernandez made some tweets trying to cover his ass and lied that he wasn't trying to get Auerbach fired.
>"Made the mistake of looking at @AuerbachKeller again. Wonder if @slate and @NewAmerica are aware he uses Twitter as a libel machine."
>"Hey @slate @NewAmerica Twitter of @AuerbachKeller is a horror show. Pro-Gamergate, pro-Brexit, anti-"SJW". Why not just hire Vox Day?"
>"Hey @Slate @NewAmerica Matt Bruenig was fired for less than what @AuerbachKeller is up to on Twitter."
15 hours later…
>"Don't want @slate and @newamerica to fire @auerbachkeller, just want his creepy Twitter obsession to end. Tired of stalking and lies."
>"Hey @slate @newamerica tell @AuerbachKeller I won't touch his precious Gamergate article on WP so he & his followers can leave me alone."
Seems legit.
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d0bd77 No.325636
>>317603
BMK is back at ANI for the usual. As reported by Furry-Friend:
> A couple of months ago Beyond My Ken reverted an edit of mine; that's okay, that's what the WP:BRD process is for. I've waited months for a reply to our discussion, no luck. Decided to edit the article again, got reverted by BMK again, this time under the claim that they're POV edits. I have requested BMK to clarify, out of the five edits he reverted, why three in particular are POV edits (1, 2, 3) (Aside from those three, there are two edits he disputes as "combine non-scientific reports with scientific ones", which I'd hoped he'd address separately). He insists that this was discussed (it wasn't) and that since an apparent acquaintance of his re-reverted my edits after him, it's now the consensus. On top of it all he resorted to personal attacks …
(and it gets worse)
Roxy The Dog immediately called for a boomerang, and Iridescent threatened to block Furry-Friend for noting that Roxy follows BMK's talk page. Then NeilN, Carrite, Isaidnoway, and Mackenson spent the time to read the diffs and saw that Furry was right. The case is still open so anything can happen.
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d0bd77 No.325637
Speaking of ANI, I have not seen Gamaliel's latest drama on the admin boards. You would think at least some random IP would enjoy reporting Arbcommies for harassing an editor offsite. Wikipediocracy has not picked up on it either.
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d0bd77 No.325638
>>325610
What a piece of fucking trash. I knew he wouldn't be able to walk away.
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d0bd77 No.325639
>>325629
So what happened? If Auerbach h>>325629
So what happened? If Auerbach had to delete his Twitter, then that shithead Gamaliel wins since God knows there is no way to know if his Wikipedo resignation take two was as valid as it was the first time around.
Also how can he say "he's staying away from the GG page" with a straight face given how he has his goons preserving the piece of shit lie filled version using every dirty Wikipedo trick in the book?
Auerbach, if he has dirt, should fucking let loose with it already and burn the fucker Gamaleil and his enablers/cronies to the ground……ad to delete his Twitter, then that shithead Gamaliel wins since God knows there is no way to know if his Wikipedo resignation take two was as valid as it was the first time around.
Also how can he say "he's staying away from the GG page" with a straight face given how he has his goons preserving the piece of shit lie filled version using every dirty Wikipedo trick in the book?
Auerbach, if he has dirt, should fucking let loose with it already and burn the fucker Gamaleil and his enablers/cronies to the ground……
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d0bd77 No.325644
Wow, Vordrak is a creepy asshole. https://archive.is/VPVx9
There's a whole section blaming Gamaliel and Jimbo because somebody made a spanking fetish wiki on Wikia.
He brings an admin's family into the picture:
> In real life, Floquenbeam is a married family man who cares diligently for his disabled children
He tries to get Gamaliel fired:
> I asked Dr Lennox whether he condoned Mr Fernandez’ decision not to ban user FreakOfNurture who admitted to sex with children, nor (along with other members of ArbCom) to remove naked images of children from the site. I asked how a reputable educational institution could continue to employ someone like Fernandez.
And he altogether proves nothing in his blockbuster article besides what an asshole he is. He and Gamaliel are cut from the same cloth. The bigger problem is that there are several people on ArbCom and the admin team just like him.
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d0bd77 No.325685
Wikipedioracy's Vigilant spotted Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez editing the transcript of Danielle Citron's "Hate Crimes in Cyberspace" presentation from the 2015 WikiConference USA. I see it was discussed in this thread before, but if you missed it Gamergate and some of the Literally Who? were mentioned by Citron, primarily Anita who is repeatedly brought up and was one of the primary "sources". It also features Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez whinging about the Gamergate topic area, and some other facepalm worthy stuff from other Wikipedos.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Danielle_Citron_speaks_at_WikiConference_USA_2015
http://archive.is/bGqCG
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-Y-FuzAH4&t=0h45m38s
"Anita Sarkeesian and Gamergate" as an example of what "cyber-harassment" looks like. http://archive.is/bGqCG#selection-1135.0-1141.0
First question was from GenderGapper Kevin Gorman, who brought up Eric Corbett and claims he gets 20~ emails a week from women complaining they don't want anything to do with Wikipedia because ArbCom bans all women: http://archive.is/bGqCG#selection-1907.13-1913.1
>So, I get about twenty emails a week from women Wikipedians who don’t want to deal with any of the process on Wiki, because every arbitration committee case that has involved women in the last two years, has involved all of them being banned.
The third question was from "Gamaliel" Fernandez, who wanted to talk about Gamergate and "coordinated offsite harassment" denying people the "right to access the encyclopedia": http://archive.is/bGqCG#selection-2067.0-2067.43
Peter "Smallbones" Ekman didn't have a question but just wanted to virtue signal about electing women to ArbCom for the elections later that year. http://archive.is/bGqCG#selection-2231.0-2231.36
>Arbitration committee has been a major problem. There is an election, I believe it’s in December. I believe there are four seats up, and I would love to see four women. [applause] And I will also say, if my memory serves correctly, if everybody in this room voted for all four women, there would be I think now five women
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d0bd77 No.325688
Brad Wardell accuses SWATJester of vandalizing his Wikipedia page
> And they're banning people who try to remove it and hiding evidence that they're doing this because of #gamergate.
https://twitter.com/draginol/status/751580498539978752 https://archive.is/mWATh
The section was first added by Havok on March 8. Removed by two other users.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brad_Wardell&offset=&limit=500&action=history
KrakatoaKatie banned Tandistir for leaving revdeled messages alleging COI edits by Swatjester. The current theory is that he linked to SWATJester's Twitter harassing Wardell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tandistir
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d0bd77 No.325690
Let's set the Wayback Machine to 2007-2008!
G-Dett : “Would it be fair to say that Wikipedia’s current working definition of a WordBomb sockpuppet is anyone whose edits focus (either wholly or in part) on naked-short-selling -related articles, and who opposes User:Mantanmoreland and User:Samiharris?”
Ryulong: “They would be common traits as far as I know.”
G-Dett : “Of course they’re common traits; my question was whether they’re enough for a positive ID.”
Ryulong: “I would say so.”
https://www.deepcapture.com/2008/04/finding-the-laugh-in-a-wikipedia-slaughter/
Will somebody PLEASE check JzG's claims relating to AntiSocialMedia.net against reality and submit a report here? He's gone from playful exaggeration to arguable inaccuracy to overt misrepresentation of the truth (lying) about the content of the site.
He recently stated: The article on antisocialmedia also repeated as fact absurd allegations promoted on Wikipedia Review, that SlimVirgin is an agent of the security forces.[3]
But that's simply not true. ASM has never even alluded to those claims, nor speculated as to SlimVirgin's motives. This is not the sort of thing two people might read and interpret differently…it simply is not true. Yet this is the way JzG operates non-stop on this issue, banning any who challenge his lies as "trolls.".
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Attack_sites/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=158958759
(More JzG calling reasonable arguments "trolling")
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Attack_sites/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=158028984
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Attack_sites/Workshop&diff=158359532&oldid=158359338
Also, David Gerard's actions with respect to anything he thinks is associated with Overstock.com and WordBomb is suspect, the evidence being his block of a town in Utah, stating that WordBomb lived there and falsely stating that the local ISP was an open proxy [32]. Only after a second, independent source confirmed that his statement was false did he unblock the town [33].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive123#Review_of_indef_block_of_Piperdown
I had to use the Wayback Machine to get a picture of the Wayback Machine. That amused me.
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d0bd77 No.325691
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d0bd77 No.325692
Jobrot of Cultural Marxism infamy decided to fuck up another article while claiming consensus with zero supporters and screaming walls of text at another user who has read the scientific literature. Jytdog stood in his way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sensory_processing_sensitivity
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d0bd77 No.325763
Wikipedia had to hold an RFC on whether Black Supremacy is racist… and they decided "no consensus." Arguing in opposition were Malik Shabaaz, Nableezy, EvergreenFir, Pincrete, and PeterTheFourth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Black_supremacy&oldid=728674421#RfC:_Racist
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d0bd77 No.325793
from Greg Kohs:
Jimbo Wales continues the proud tradition of naming someone as his "Wikipedian of the Year". This year, with two honorees joining him on the stage at Esino Lario, one might say it formed a threesome?
The winners: fresh off the stage from the Wikidiversity Conference in Washington DC are Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (User:Rosiestep (T-C-L)) and the woman who kept that conference a very safe space (as Wikimedia DC's Safe Space chairwoman), Emily Temple-Wood (User:Keilana (T-C-L)). Let's have a big round of applause!
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7849
and Ed Erhart wrote the press release. Where have we seen these names before? >>325610
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d0bd77 No.325799
An editor called Ranze (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ranze) was Gamergate topic banned by Gamaliel over a year ago. Recently, Ranze was editing on the People v. Turner page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner) and was told she wasn't allowed to edit it due to the Gamergate ban.
Ranze has thus opened an appeal of her GG topic ban: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ranze
Not long after, an anti-Gamergate SPA opened an AE request against Ranze: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Ranze
The administrator who initially began warning Ranze appears to have been WP:INVOLVED with the article and indefinitely blocked Ranze for violating her GG topic ban. He later undid the block so Ranze could participate at AE.
Two admins reading over the appeal and the report are considering investigating the topic ban since Gamaliel was the one who issued it and has obvious issues with Gamergate, as seen with him having to request ArbCom to ban him from using admin tools in the topic area. Newyorkbrad is upset about this and is complaining that he feels they should be discussing whether it was a violation or not, and not whether the topic ban was kosher.
They are also discussing whether the
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d0bd77 No.325800
>>325799
Sentence got cut off.
They are also discussing whether they should take steps to clarify the "gender-based dispute or controversy" language from the Gamergate sanctions.
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d0bd77 No.325820
>>325636
BMK committed wiki-kari
> But now, with pests lacking all good judgment flying around in swarms, and the general lack of appreciation for the hard work I put into the encyclopedia, it's beginning to seem like I shouldn't wait, and should just — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beyond My Ken (talk • contribs) 19:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
> BMK requested, and was granted an indef block. Let's close this for now.–S Philbrick(Talk) 21:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
He'll be back in a month.
All of this could have been avoided with some broken-windows policing, by his friends saying "dude, you fucked up" instead of rushing to ban anyone who points out when he makes mistakes just because they like the volume of the other work he does. It's the same story with all of the untouchables.
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d0bd77 No.325822
>>325799
The AE report against Ranze has been tossed and her appeal closed as moot after Seraphimblade investigated and found that Robert "Gamaliel" Fernandez originally said the topic ban was 12 months duration then later used a template which claimed it was indefinite, which was deemed to be in error.
>I do indeed have some concerns about the validity of the sanction as of right now. Here's where Gamaliel imposed the original sanction, as a 12 month topic ban, on 4 April 2015: [1]. Somewhat later, Gamaliel makes an edit where he uses the AE template for clarity's sake. The template does say "indefinite", but Gamaliel says in that same edit "This is not a new sanction", and the ban is only logged as a 12-month restriction. No extension of the ban to indefinite was ever logged. I'm therefore led to believe that the use of "indefinite" was an error in use of the template, and that therefore this sanction wasn't intended to be indefinite and has already expired as of 4 April 2016. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
>I hadn't looked at that particular angle, thank you for bringing it up. It does indeed seem to have been imposed as 12 months, and the "indefinite" part of it would appear to be just a template error and not backed by the force of Arbcom. Even if he had returned, Gamaliel is banned from administrative action here, so he can't reinterpret it for us (plus, many of his bans have needed multiple clarifications and modification anyway). Given the circumstances, I move that we declare the ban to have expired, and therefore the request below is void ab initio The WordsmithTalk to me 14:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
As for what Ranze got topic banned for in the first place, it looks like she was editing the Literally Who? article and adding information about her actual name to the article and some disambiguation pages as well as mentioning her nude modeling 'career' and was using LW's own Twitter as a source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ranze&oldid=654927489#Zoe_Quinn
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NorthBySouthBaranof&diff=prev&oldid=654896808
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d0bd77 No.325839
>>309156
>TVTropes bans nonfeminism.
>TFW I used to read TVTropes all the time.
This is heartbreak.
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d0bd77 No.325851
It's a triple drama day.
1. EvergreenFir brought Dream Focus to ANI for being insufficiently respectful to Alton Sterling, the dude who was shot by cops in Louisiana. Dream Focus saw that the writeup says he has five kids, giving the impression that he is a family man, and thought:
> Why mention he had five children without mentioning he didn't pay child support and the mother of one of them was a 14 year old girl he was convicted of statutory raping?
BLASPHEMY! EvergreenFir edit-warred to suppress this divergence from The Holy Narrative and charged Dream Focus with the high crime of BDP.
2. Speaking of blasphemy, EvergreenFir also ran the newbie Baron d'Holbach II off the site by accusing him of vandalism, conspiracy theories, and editing against consensus for knowing things about the Nice truck driver that EvergreenFir didn't. Among EvergreenFir's charges are that it was disruptive to rename "2016 Orlando nightclub shooting" to "2016 Orlando nightclub attack". Baron is certainly a POV pusher, but he is a n00b! Most of what he said can be backed up with sources. He failed to provide them, but any request for sources – if there was one – was lost in the accusations.
3. At AN, IP 199.101.61.70 signing his messages as Eric Ramus is trying to start shit with the owners of the Anita Sarkeesian page. The IP resolves to Gene's Telecom in Manitoba. We previously saw a Gene's Telecom IP 199.101.61.190 claiming to be Zoe Quinn's brother Sean Quinn, and the troll Comet Egypt edited from Gene's Telecom while claiming to be multiple different people.
This IP claims to be a friend of a cousin of Anita Sarkeesian for 11 years…
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tropes_vs._Women_in_Video_Games&diff=prev&oldid=730159612
… and may not be bullshitting us. From 2015:
> As for the demo track, well, I once dreamed of being a musician and created one myself in the late 1990's with help from dj Andrew Sarkeesian, who himself had his first DJ demo in 1986, but his dj coreer didn't start untill Madchester, in 1989. so I'm using the same lojic to put it to a known starting year based on an album and not his demo's creation date.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Deadmau5/Archive_4
Whether it matters or not, five days ago someone removed Andrew Sarkeesian from Wikipedia.
> * Andrew Sarkeesian (Also Known as Incognito), singer, song writer and producer specializing in House Music, provided vocals for various songs including La Passion and Riddle by gigi d'agostino and Sunshine by Dance Nation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sargsyan&diff=729499689&oldid=723003494
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d0bd77 No.325868
In the Dream Focus discussion, Drmies calls for filling the Philando Castile article with irrelevant bullshit:
> Whaddayaknow, Shooting of Philando Castile had precisely what I was afraid it had–just "the facts". I'm hoping someone will add context to the "Police" section–since it turns out that "minority drivers [in Minnesota] were more likely than white drivers to be both stopped and searched, even though officers found contraband more often when searching white drivers", according to a 2003 study on racial profiling commissioned by the state. We really need to be doing better than this. Drmies (talk) 14:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Here's your context, Drmies.
http://www.savedbythebellhorn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=247895
http://gotnews.com/yet-proof-twitter-posts-prove-philandocastile-crip-gang-banger/
http://gotnews.com/breaking-mn-cops-newport-cigarette-tax-stamps-tie-gangbanger-philandocastile-to-convenience-store-robbery-falconheightsshootings/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/13/philando-castile-wallet-positioned-underneath-visible-hand-gun/
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d0bd77 No.325917
>>325822
>>325799
Glad to see that Ranze is back and no longer topic banned. I remember chatting with him a while back somewhere and they talked about wanting to get a Techraptor page written up. I guess they never got around to it sadly.
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d0bd77 No.325918
>>325917
Or her*, according to the post anyway.
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d0bd77 No.325942
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d0bd77 No.326013
From AN today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#User:JohnLloydScharf
> User:JohnLloydScharf is currently blocked for one week for repeatedly posting an image from the anti-Muslim hate site TheReligionofPeace.com. He posted it multiple times at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/2016 Ramadan attacks. The image was deleted by unanimous consensus at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ramadan-Bombathon-2016 Final Score Black.jpg. I can't find the original, but it was a version of this with a black background instead of the photograph.
"this" = https://shariaunveiled.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/ramadan-bombathon-2016-final.png
So this guy posts info that is relevant to the subject, from a source known for cautiously underreporting these statistics, to an otherwise blank talk page, AND THEY BANNED HIM.
And there is another false sockpuppetry claim against an IP who spoke out against the mod abuse. Some very simple research shows that the alleged "logged out" user is posting from 3,000 miles away.
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d0bd77 No.326016
>>325942
Vordrak claims he had WiA mod approval to contact Gamaliel's employer, and posted private convos. One has student28567271 saying "we 100% back" one of his articles that outed Gooniepunk, but Reddit admins forced them to remove it. Another has StukaLied hemming and hawing about the Gamaliel article and suggesting they take it to KiA, but accepting if "some acolyte published a comment about how the article is up, but not a link?"
It sounds like the ban came out of the blue and they had to do it to be consistent while banning Gamaliel and Mr. Ed.
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d0bd77 No.326019
>>326016
Some history here:
>>325644
Early this year Vordrak decided he was going to write about Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez. He claimed to have found evidence that Fernandez had violated the WP:CHILDPROTECT policy because when Fernandez proposed an indefinite block of Vordrak last year he mentioned disgust as Vordrak's blog content. Vordrak claims this means Fernandez must have read the blog post where he had allegedly found a literal wikipedo, and since Fernandez didn't indefinitely block that account that means he's a pedo supporter and Vordrak decided to go after his job almost a year later.
Once the arbitration case started against Fernandez in early April, Vordrak claimed he was no longer going to publish it so as not to interfere with ArbCom. However, at some point near the start of the arbitration Vordrak emailed the Catholic university that Fernandez is employed by and, although we don't know exactly what was said in the emails (none of which were replied to), it seems Vordrak told them that Fernandez was a pedo/child abuse supporter due to not blocking the alleged pedo account and argued that Fernandez deserved to be fired over it. Given that this email was dubbed extortion by those Fernandez confided in and Fernandez claimed to be unable to edit Wikipedia due to threats against him, there likely was an "…or else I will go public and smear the university for being pedo lovers" aspect.
What we do know for sure is that what Vordrak did to Fernandez has been labeled "serious harassment," "extortion," "blackmail," "extremely radioactive," and "brutally bad" by those who know the full details. WMF's legal division was also mentioned as investigating the situation.
At least one arbitrator used Vordrak's harassment of Fernandez as part of their rationale not to desysop him.
Likely believing Fernandez to have been neutralized, Vordrak tried to back channel an appeal of his indef block in early June and Floquenbeam upgraded it to an ArbCom block when he found out. Vordrak would later make a threat to dox Floquenbeam's family or some such on his blog.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AVordrak
When Vordrak first let slip that it was him that emailed Fernandez's university, Rhoark tried to file an arbitration case about it but Vordrak contacted oversight and it was all removed.
http://archive.is/eKexc#selection-895.0-895.20
Now, since he was banned from the subreddit Vordrak is claiming WIA made him do it all, although I doubt anyone would have ever told him to go after Fernandez's employer with pedo accusations. Considering Vordrak's track record of obsessing over pedo crap (such as getting an Evanescence forum shut down and the singer harassed by Anonymous), signs point to him acting on his own volition.
Meanwhile, for months Vordrak has been harassing people related to KiwiFarms and may have been responsible for an act of domestic terrorism targeting the owner of the Farms. He tried to lolsuit KiwiFarms and Encyclopedia Dramatica and is currently putting out doxing bounties on someone named Dynastia.
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Samuel_Collingwood_Smith
https://kiwifar.ms/threads/vordrak-samuel-collingwood-smith-matthew-hopkins-benovolus.16771/
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Vordrak
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d0bd77 No.326029
Something's up at ANI:
> <links to offsite attacks removed>
and in a thread about Frank Gaffney and Lavabaron.
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d0bd77 No.326030
>>326029
… it was just the WiA threads with a pile of ArbCom-quality evidence and a few people in the bleachers munching Cracker Jack while watching Wikipedia sink beneath the waves. There were no "attacks". Wikipedia did that to itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=731214785&oldid=731213638
and… oh, wow. Bishonen was TRIGGERED!
> === Indefinitely ban Cirt, JzG, Robert McClennon, Beyond My Ken, TheRedPenOfDoom, Doug Weller, and Lavabaron for "sockpuppetry" ===
> Why not? Sauce for the gander. 130.157.201.59 (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=731209891&oldid=731209817
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bishonen also killed an on-point comment by the IP.
> Oppose - your so-called consensus was tainted by banning everyone who disagreed with you and threatening further bans of anyone who continued to speak up. Anything postdating Lavabaron's rewrite of these pages should be struck as unreliable. as I said earlier [18] a slew of hit pieces came out when Gaffney became Ted Cruz's national security advisor which all crib from the Wikipedia page which is LavaBaron's opinion.
> [Citogenesis image]
> Gaffney should be described as a defense analyst, national security analyst, radio host, or something that actually describes his job. 130.157.201.59 (talk) 19:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Gaffney&diff=731209781&oldid=731204804
It looks like Bishonen should be added to that list.
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d0bd77 No.326045
>>325644
>>325942
>>326016
>>326019
Vordrak sounds like your classic self-hating anti-pedo pedo. Someone so creepy regular pedophiles won't hang out with him.
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d0bd77 No.326049
>>326045
Going by ED's article on Wikipedia, being a self-loathing emofaggot pedophile is a common trait among the editors. https://encyclopediadramatica.se/TOW
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d0bd77 No.326054
Guess who's back
Back again
Auerbach
Tell a friend
https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller/status/757729402423762944
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The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia DC have chosen to side with a WMDC board member who defamed me. This is profoundly disappointing.
This defamation was specifically supported by the vice president of Wikimedia DC, who was recently named Wikipedian of the Year. (>>309268 that would be Keilana)
My repeated efforts to achieve a private resolution were rebuffed by the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia DC, Wikipedia ArbCom, and others.
There is documented evidence of multiple Wikimedia-connected people coordinating a vendetta against me over the last few months.
The vendetta appears to stem from (a) my criticism of Wikipedia, and (b) my attempts to remove false statements about me from Wikipedia.
That is all I have to say about Wikipedia-related matters at this time.
-
I hope that his next statement will be in a court of law.
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d0bd77 No.326055
The Gamergate controversy talk page has died. No edits since June 30th, and very few to the article itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate_controversy&action=history
>>326054
Hmm, he said this when he first reactivated https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller/status/757702238156521473
>There are some things I can't talk about, but I'll say what I can. Subscribe to http://tinyletter.com/auerbook if you're very curious.
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d0bd77 No.326186
Kevin Gorman has died due to his various medical conditions.
https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kevin_Gorman
>Kevin's heart still beats! His heart was successfully transplanted into another person last week, as was his liver and a kidney. Kevin saved three lives last week by sharing his organs. May his heart continue to beat for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin_Gorman#Rest_in_peace
Gorman was an anti-Gamergater and GenderGapper. I believe there was an incident where he banned someone after they had suggested adding something to the shrine of Anita Scamkeesian mentioning her history working with a pick-up artist. Gorman's response was to dig through the offender's profiles, eventually finding some tweets about Gamergate on his Twitter, which he used as justification to ban him.
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d0bd77 No.326187
>>326186
RIP. I disagreed with the guy but that is small and irrelevant to this news.
> I believe there was an incident where he banned someone after they had suggested adding something to the shrine of Anita Scamkeesian mentioning her history working with a pick-up artist.
Yeah, that was Xander756. He wasn't otherwise much involved in GG compared to the other admins.
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d0bd77 No.326257
New drama, something to do with manginas
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7952
tl;dr:
* A physicist Ruggero Santilli is selling a new type of fuel.
* Wikipedia calls him a quack and claims his fuel cannot possibly work.
* Investors pull out.
* Wikipedia puts his article up for deletion.
* A fanboy comes to WO with articles showing the fuel working in third-party trials at GM, FDNY, US Navy.
* Everyone tells the fanboy to fuck off.
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d0bd77 No.326266
Fresh drama involving Oliver Smith (TombRaider999), a Vordrak wannabe harassing Rome Viharo and Kiwi Farms. He has had accounts banned from WikiInAction for interfering with him.
https://archive.is/zQiPT
He has quite a background:
https://kiwifar.ms/threads/oliver-smith-atlantid.17515/
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Oliver_Smith
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d0bd77 No.326292
SageRad and David Tornheim were blocked for a month for complaining to Jimbo about editor cliques in science articles because they were topic-banned from GMO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_210#Wikipedia.2C_we_have_a_problem
Wikipedia had a tradition that Jimbo's talk page was exempt from topic bans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Banning_policy#Violation_of_topic_ban
Meanwhile, an update to the Darkfrog24 saga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Darkfrog24
> @Spartaz: I recently found out that the maximum block allowable as an AE action is one year. You were very specific when you said that this block was an AE action, so it should be changed from indefinite to expiring no later than February 29, 2017. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
> No. Spartaz Humbug! 18:16, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.326379
>>326054
Auerbach accuses WP of giving his harassers a slush fund https://archive.is/Ws6OV
and goes to ArbCom directly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Press_Inquiry
Does anyone have archives of the "arbcom members are currently requesting $75 to answer questions on Twitter"?
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d0bd77 No.326394
>>326379
The press inquiry took off out of control it seems, with all sorts of attacks and aspersions being thrown at Auerbach for daring to ask for clarification. Drmies seems to imply that ArbCom has decided to intentionally not respond to this question (remember, Auerbach sent out his initial inquiry on July 2nd, so it's been over a month).
>That Mr. Auerbach has not received an answer to their query ought to be an indication that ArbCom is not willing to answer it at this time.
Another arb, kelapstick, figured that "Gamaliel" Fernandez was still on the board for Wikimedia D.C. and that Doug Weller must have been mistaken. kelapstick then got triggered and cast aspersions that Auerbach was trying to "re-open" the case about Fernandez.
Drmies also hand-waved away the harassment that Fernandez and co. waged against Auerbach, dismissing the contact of Auerbach's employers as "some random tweet, right, shot straight into the blogosphere".
>It is clarifying to get an unambiguous statement from ArbCom that such a tweet does not constitute harassment and is acceptable behavior from an admin. The definition of harassment is quite fuzzy. Auerbachkeller (talk) 21:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Meanwhile, Auerbach has a few more tweets on the matter: http://archive.is/bXOGb
>The more resistance Wikipedia bigwigs show to answering a very simple question, the more curious I get as to why there's such resistance.
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d0bd77 No.326469
Let's look at the TradingJihadist saga…
TradingJihadist created an account to make the article Murder of Seth Rich and submit it to Did You Know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/TradingJihadist&offset=&limit=500&target=TradingJihadist
The article was heavy on speculation about Rich possibly being a source for DNCLeaks and possibly being killed for it, none of which is anywhere close to confirmed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Seth_Rich&oldid=733922229
TradingJihadist tried to deny that this was conspiracy mongering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Murder_of_Seth_Rich
The article was quickly was sent to AfD where there was discussion of the speculation being unfit for Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Murder_of_Seth_Rich
TradingJihadist complained about the article's poor reception at AN and was told, essentially, "you deserved it fucko" with a side of "you are NOT a new account".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Admin_Eyes_Needed_on_American_Politcs
TradingJihadist unconvincingly denied being a new account.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NeilN&oldid=734072101#Remarks_on_the_admin_noticeboard
When NeilN told TradingJihadist to listen to what Acroterion and Volunteer Marek had already told him about the article's quality, TradingJihadist reported NeilN to ANI and got indeffed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Issues_with_User:NeilN
At first glance this looked like a familiar case of admins shitting on a new user again, but it wasn't. The article was flawed and TradingJihadist claimed mod abuse instead of addressing the flaws. TradingJihadist denied being an alternate account but did and said many things that newbies do not do and knew how to phrase an argument to attract sympathy.
Considerations in TradingJihadist's favor, because everyone deserves a defense:
* IIRC, it is allowable to use an alternate account in a controversial area as long as you don't sock with it. Being an SPA should not be cause for suspicion.
* NOTHERE is an essay, not a grounds for a block.
However, this was clearly a case of someone pushing disputable material, throwing a tantrum when people disagreed with them, and attempting to abuse other editors' trust. Out they go.
Also at AN, Lavabaron has been edit-warring with a Trump staffer to include the street address of the Trump transition team office on Wikipedia. The Trump people don't want to be truck bombed for some reason, but the same editor who hates Frank Gaffney and likes Loonwatch wants their street address to be available to anyone who reads Wikipedia.
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d0bd77 No.326497
This thread cannot tie it is a testament to gg wikipedia autism,ryolong and every other person who fetishes wiki and wikirelated happening God speed all you glorious faggots
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d0bd77 No.326626
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d0bd77 No.326659
At his ArbCom lynching, Michael Hardy complains that sections are being removed from his evidence section. He had trouble keeping his evidence within word limits. Let's see what the story is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence&diff=734616363&oldid=734581430
This very weak personal attack was removed:
> I find it asserted here that I forbade someone to disagree with me, although I am the one who said that forbidding other Wikipedians to disagree is objectionable. I suggest that those who insist on making assertions like that about me find something purposeful to do rather than engaging in such dishonesty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence&diff=734616363&oldid=734581430-
The favored children can get away with much worse than that, as we have seen.
Amortias removed two significant sections of Michael Hardy's defense. "removing claims not supported by diffs - clerk action"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence&diff=734516449&oldid=734409986 https://archive.is/uQ4w8
Bishonen deleted an IP's evidence section with the excuse "Rm obvious block evasion (JohnLloydScharf)" because the IP accused the case filer Boing Said Zeebeedee of misusing his tools against JohnLloydScharf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence&diff=734091507&oldid=734072419
Bishonen also blocked the IP for a month. How dare you present evidence against the wrong side!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:130.157.201.59#August_2016
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d0bd77 No.326736
Wikipedia to host their NYC meetup at Babycastles - the "art and gaming collective" hyped by Leigh Alexander
https://np.red*dit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4y3qee/wikipedia_to_host_their_nyc_meetup_at_babycastles/
Really. https://archive.is/swEET (dat url)
Leigh Alexander promoted Babycastles in the LA Times in 2010
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/15/entertainment/la-ca-babycastles-20100815 https://archive.is/4l1Ud
The Politics Behind Babycastles
Babycastles was inspired by the Canadian group Kokoromi Collective
https://civic.mit.edu/blog/natematias/the-politics-behind-babycastles https://archive.is/dxIzo
Babycastles curated the Games For Change 10th anniversary festival
http://www.gamesforchange.org/festival2013/games/babycastles/
IGF@BabyCastles curated by Brandon Boyer
http://www.ifc.com/2010/11/babycastles-takes-manhattan https://archive.is/Swe4N
Phil Fish using the Babycastles mailing list
https://archive.is/0qlex
Did they not know how suspicious this would look?
And this looks interesting:
Babycastles’ first official exhibition, “Assalamaikulum Babycastles,” is a curation of video games that portray the lived Muslim experience … (including) “Special Force 2”, a Lebanese propaganda game in which players take the role of a Hezbollah soldier on the West Bank of Israel. The last of them is being displayed only on an unplayable loop, given its controversial background.
http://www.imposemagazine.com/features/babycastles https://archive.is/YMc8X
The Personal Experience of Surveillance: with Syed Salahuddin of Babycastles
https://www.facebook.com/events/487351241399335 https://archive.is/T1Sqz
The feds usually don't put surveillance on you unless they have a reason.
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d0bd77 No.326745
Lots of activity in the Gamergate area as the 2-year anniversary approaches.
They are still bickering about the lede: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy#RfC:_Proposed_new_lede_for_Gamergate_controversy
Despite being offended by what Vordrak did, Rhoark did go back to work on his draft and has solicited comments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhoark/sandbox/Gamergate_controversy
An RfC was started to see if they should include Eron Gjoni's "side of the story", no doubt prompted by his recent interview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy#RfC:_Should_Gjoni.27s_side_of_the_story_be_reported.3F
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d0bd77 No.326827
>>326745
Now that Gawker's scalp has definitively been nailed to the wall; watch the shift in narrative from:
'"basement dwelling nerds of Gamergate"'
to
'"life-destroying bullies of Gamergate"'
The sociopathy inherent in Social Justice demands it!
(No sociopath can EVER be convinced to "own" a bad act they've committed, it's ALWAYS the fault of some "other".)
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d0bd77 No.326912
>>326827
Already happened, and I DO admit to enjoying cuckholding, but you didn't hear that from me.
>The internet was gaslighted to turn against Gawker
Like how ZQ gaslighted Eron, hmm?
Reminder that to their last breath, Gawker blamed Gamergate, not Hogan or Thiel, for destroying their tyranny of online bullying.
Funnily enough, conservative outlets are now backing pro-Gamergate up:
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/767826014353362944
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d0bd77 No.326913
>>326912
>and I DO admit to enjoying cuckholding, but you didn't hear that from me.
Oh, goddamit, mods.
Brilliant filtering of f-a-m, btw. I'm not even mad. Upvote!
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d0bd77 No.326965
Literally Who? aka FIve Guys wanted the 4chan page edited and they got Ryulong to do it (pic related, from the Crash Override/anti-GG chat logs that got leaked tonight.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4chan&diff=prev&oldid=640849382
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4chan&diff=prev&oldid=640847921
The Gamaliel harassing Auerbach thing is still going. One of Gamaliel's cronies tried to remove a quote from Auerbach's 2014 article after it was added to the Criticism of Wikipedia page because Gamergate.
http://archive.is/k1Wos
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wikipedia&diff=prev&oldid=734117608
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnuniq&oldid=735343843#Misguided_campaigns
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d0bd77 No.327136
The Cultural Marxism edit war is flaring up again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory_.28Frankfurt_School.29
> It's worth considering that if RSes concurred with you, you wouldn't be trying to argue their hypothetical case here - David Gerard (talk) 14:11, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
> What I'm saying is that they do.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17] They just don't use the exact term "cultural Marxism", making it easy to maintain a WP:POVFUNNEL. Rhoark (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
That sums up the entire debate. One person plants a pile of RSes spanning decades proving that Cultural Marxism is real, and the Wikipedia house POV cites recent left-wing opinion pieces. And the same people keep showing up in all of these battleground subjects.
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d0bd77 No.327351
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d0bd77 No.327441
NorthBySouthBaranof is now patrolling the Shaun King page and kicking out anyone not following the party line. Someone said that the page should take no position on whether Shaun King is black or white. NorthBySouthBaranof reported them to AE as a "racist conspiracy theorist" and got them blocked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#75.140.253.89
JzG was there to close the thread with this complete bullshit:
> Sources support King's current self-identification as black, and no credible sources contradict it. This is now venturing into WP:IDHT territory. Guy (Help!) 21:05, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Shaun_King_(activist)
For those who are late to the story, Shaun King's own birth certificate says he is white.
* http://www.re-newsit.com/2015/08/exclusive-new-document-shows-jeffery.html
One of the last comments in the thread:
> So the two sources are one source that has never been used on Wikipedia and the second you are inferring that is says he is black based on a business he is involved in which they say is 'black owned'? That seems extremely thin, at best. If he is black, there should be an actual RS out there that says so, in no uncertain terms.50m race walk (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Let's see what this editor's talk page looks like.
> You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistent disruptive editing. (…) Guy (Help!) 13:15, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:50m_race_walk&diff=736883447&oldid=736882586
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d0bd77 No.327449
Wikipedia discovered the leaked Crash Override Network logs. PeterTheFourth is holding down the fort against reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Crash_Override_Network https://archive.is/GKXTN
over on GG Controversy, PeterTheFourth attempted to add Katherine Cross's opinion as a "peer reviewed paper"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy
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d0bd77 No.327521
Dwavenhobble interrupts a mutual masturbation session between Reichstag and Pete Forsyth
> @eastgate @PeteForsyth FFS I was permabanned from wikipedia for reverting the change to a lock symbol size. You did much more you know it
https://twitter.com/Dwavenhobble/status/771208489771282432
hmm…
> Pete Forsyth
hmm…
> PeterTheFourth?
This is either a case of not even hiding it or someone impersonating another user. Given how these people all seem to be offline friends of each other the chance of a coincidence is a distant third place.
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d0bd77 No.327526
>>327351
>"an idiotic conspiracy theory"
This is the new "Never Believe Anything Until It Is Officially Denied" because reality itself is apparently a "conspiracy theory" to the left now.
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d0bd77 No.327553
>>327136
> The Cultural Marxism edit war is flaring up again.
An IP outed Jobrot as Ghazi troll quietthomas and Jobrot refuted the accusation by linking to himself trolling WiA. Great job ace! So with this evidence… JzG topic banned Last Contrarian. No action against Jobrot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive932#The_Frankfurt_School_section_.22Cultural_Marxism.22
JzG was also tag teaming with NorthBySouthBaranof at Shaun King. >>327441
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d0bd77 No.327580
>>315398
> Liz reopened the complaint against JzG after Chillum admitted his involvement. A normal user named Tarage overruled Liz (who is now an admin) to close the report and threaten the filer with a block.
Tarage is one of the most aggressive people going after Michael Hardy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_Tarage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence#Tarage.27s_Section
Meanwhile at the workshop, NewYorkBrad is laying down railroad tracks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Workshop
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d0bd77 No.327611
>>326965
> Literally Who? aka FIve Guys wanted the 4chan page edited and they got Ryulong to do it (pic related, from the Crash Override/anti-GG chat logs that got leaked tonight.)
Reminder that this happened. Or as Nuckable put it:
> Proof Wikipedia's #GamerGate article was written by people COLLUDING WITH THE PEOPLE THEY WROTE ABOUT
https://twitter.com/nuckable/status/769486503621881856
Also, PeterTheFourth showed up to soften Auerbach's criticism of Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wikipedia&diff=737476853&oldid=737476476
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wikipedia&diff=736643134&oldid=736176212
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d0bd77 No.327628
>>326659
> At his ArbCom lynching, Michael Hardy complains that sections are being removed from his evidence section.
and the shitshow gets shittier. Amortias put Hardy under a topic ban from contributing to his own defense as punishment for a nonexistent "personal attack"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Hardy#Evidence_submission_restriction
> @Kharkiv07: @Amortias: : Where are the personal attacks? There are numerous allegations against me on that page. Has everyone who posted those been similarly admonished about personal attacks against me? The section to which you link contains a diff and points out the context and says MjolnirPants addressed me in language suitable only to an overseer addressing slaves. Is there a difference between a "personal attack" rather than an allegation for which evidence is presented? Are others allowed to make such allegations, whcih constitute "personal attacks" only if done by me? Michael Hardy (talk) 22:26, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
This is followed by Drmies and Patient Zero telling Hardy to stop digging. What digging? Hardy is right.
Amortias also killed a comment by jrheller1 backing up Hardy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=737101348
This whole case has been a complete failure of CIR by everyone except for Hardy and a few brave people defending him against the horde of stupidity. It's clear that none of the people attacking Hardy have read his post to ANI. All of this has snowballed from emotional reactions to other emotional reactions after someone thought he was a noob because of the title. Oh, he was slightly impolite to a mob of lunatics who were screaming for his head for no good reason? Who cares? Why is this at ArbCom?
It's all the more shocking when you compare the "civility" bar for Hardy to what other Wikipedians get away with regularly. At AE, NorthBySouthBaranof called someone a racist conspiracy theorist for saying that Wikipedia should take no position on the controversy of how Shaun King made money pretending to be black while he is actually white. Where are Amortias and Drmies to lecture about civility there?
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d0bd77 No.327709
ANI follies with Jytdog and Mario Castelán Castro!
Mario: Jytdog is behaving improperly. Here is the behavior policy. Can someone tell him to use the talk page?
ANI: Content dispute, closing.
Mario: Could someone review the close of the previous section? (in bold) This is about behavior, not content.
ANI: Content dispute, closing. Mario is warned to drop the stick.
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d0bd77 No.327799
Drama Roundup
PeterTheFourth, Fyddlesticks, and Binksternet are brigading Christina Hoff Sommers's article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Christina_Hoff_Sommers#Feminist_ideologues https://archive.is/VMaaW
Johan Richer and Emmanuel Raviart entered an RFC started by Dachart and left the same exact vote, word for word. Both were blocked as sockpuppets. Dachart says wait, these are real people, I know them, I talked to them. At ANI he is told that if they were proven socks at SPI they must be the same person. A few people do try to clarify things, but that was silly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:_Codename_Lisa_bit_newcomers
Ranze has been creating hundreds of unnecessary redirects for the nicknames of professional wrestlers. As is normal for ANI, attempting to explain the policy justification for some of his actions is considered a strike against him. Like, if use of a TV episode as a source is strictly forbidden, why do we have a standard template for it? So taboo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Ranze_on_pro_wrestling_articles
SageRad complained to Jimbo about the admin POV gangs. In retaliation, Jytdog, JzG, and Only In Death filled the talk page with personal attacks against SageRad. Unsanctioned, of course. JzG killed an IP's comment for hitting too close to home and edit warred with Dr. Chrissy over it before the comment was restored by a third editor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Wikipedia.2C_we_still_have_a_problem.
The Four Deuces reported Volunteer Marek for obvious POV problems in describing the book Clinton Cash as "fringe nutjobbery" and "A fringe far right conspiracy theory book" and using his own opinion to prevent the book from being used as a source on Wikipedia. Obviously, this shows a lack of neutrality and a BLP vio against the author. Let's see what the experts at AE say:
TimothyJosephWood: "This seems like a silly report mostly for expressing a dissenting opinion…"
MrX: "What I see here is legitimate criticism of sources…"
My Very Best Wishes: "I think Marek was right on the essence of the issue. In particular, Peter Schweizer was described by Media Matters for America…"
SPECIFICO: "Kudos to Marek for trying to do the right thing."
Laser Brain: "I'm struggling to see what the point of this report is…"
Lord Roem: "I find this completely vacuous."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#Volunteer_Marek
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d0bd77 No.327825
MarkBernstein was blocked for six months for violating his Gamergate topic ban by editing the 8chan page (which, in addition to obviously being connected to Gamergate, has the GG sanctions). http://archive.is/BDWc8#selection-2409.0-2409.14
His response has been to claim he didn't do anything wrong and to continue building his "alt-right Gamergate Trumpeters have taken over Wikipedia" narrative.
http://archive.is/NIFtt
http://archive.is/zRlf6
http://archive.is/r0Pox
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d0bd77 No.327836
>>327825
Wow, we must have moved his stair muffin very far. Hey Mark, go tell this guy he's an antisemite.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263914/gawker-editor-gamergate-was-our-most-effective-daniel-greenfield
http://politichicks.com/2015/07/daniel-greenfield-5-ways-to-fight-the-left-and-make-your-life-better/
http://danielgreenfieldhebrew.blogspot.com/
Meanwhile, jps took the CON Leaks to the reliable sources noticeboard and starts by poisoning the well.
> Gamergaters want to include information on this page which is sourced to a rightwing political rags The Washington Examiner and Heat Street.
Unfortunately, Rhododendrites is buying it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RSN#Crash_Override_Network
jps seems to have been canvassed by Peter or a mutual friend. He has no activity on the page before this edit war.
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d0bd77 No.327951
Not really professional behavior for someone who owns what the mainstream considers a trusted online source.
https://archive.is/g6s1c
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d0bd77 No.327965
some guy on twitter notices:
> theories WaPo has floated this wk
> Putin poisoned HRC
> Putin rigs election for Trump
> Putin rigs election for HRC then FRAMES HRC in false flag
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/775599279184445440
Wikipedia should now consider the Washington Post to be a conspiracy theory website. Anyone citing the Washington Post must be denounced as a fringe POV-pushing conspiracy theorist.
Someone please take this to RSN and mine some salt.
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d0bd77 No.327966
> Someone please take this to RSN and mine some salt.
On second thought, don't do this. They'd just ignore their own behavior and call it trolling, especially since it was suggested here.
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d0bd77 No.327970
>>327966
>especially since it was suggested here.
Then don't bring up Gamergate or 8chan in the first place. It's not even GG related. How is that so hard?
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d0bd77 No.327973
The shenanigans at the CON page got more official.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crash_Override_Network&offset=&limit=500&action=history
Ymblanter protected the page to stop the edit war between PeterTheFourth and his meatpuppet jps versus literally everybody else. Two hours later, Mastcell edited through the protection to remove the CON leaks and he laid down the WikiLaw:
> WP:BLP admin enforcement action; we absolutely cannot make contentious claims of fact about living people cited to opinion pieces from partisan websites; per WP:BLP this material needs to be removed unless/until there is clear consensus to add it
https://archive.is/IzqoP
Contentious? The only people contending this are the WP admins and their alts.
24.84.155.22 replied on Talk:
> Good thing we have a primary document, a primary source verifying the legitimacy of the primary document and none of the participants have denied the legitimacy of it.
James J. Lambden added:
> Inclusion was discussed above and by my rough count: 12 editors were in favor, feeling the sourcing was sufficient, and 2 opposed. Given the weight of the arguments, which I find heavier on the include side, that appears to be the "clear consensus" you require
Mastcell says IDHT:
> I don't see how you arrived at a 12-2 count above in favor of inclusion, or anything near it.
Lambden went back and counted 17-2 in the Talk section and he's being generous with the 2 because Fangrim had said little more than (paraphrasing) "we don't need a vote, write a draft."
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d0bd77 No.327997
24.84.155.22 was blocked 3 days for soapboxing and casting aspersions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:24.84.155.22
and the Crash Override Network talk page is turning into a shitshow where the other users see new admins jumping in and deleting comments that are critical of the house POV, calling people socks, the usual shit that they do to suppress politically inconvenient content, except that this time it all looks justified.
Binksternet killed several comments that were posted inside hatted (closed) sections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739469538&oldid=739468221
This was a legal kill. 24.84.155.22, 73.13.28.182, and 65.153.30.202 had posted inside hatted sections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739468221&oldid=739467480
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739429195&oldid=739425101
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739467480&oldid=739467356
24.86.66.13, not getting it, restored the comments with the question "Why not"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739472533&oldid=739471888
NeilN blocked 24.86.66.13 for one day for "block evasion" and extended 24.84.155.22's block to one month for "sockpuppetry". Both IPs are Shaw Cable in Canada so it could be the same guy resetting his router.
24.86.66.13 also had the same argumentative writing style. This looks like a DUCK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&diff=739472661&oldid=739472533
70.79.199.207 saw that comments had been deleted and rushed to the defense of the Talk page, starting a short edit war with Binksternet to try to bring them back. Binksternet gave good explanations in the summaries.
NeilN blocked 70.79.199.207 one day for "block evasion" and protected the page for two days due to "persistent sockpuppetry". Really? Probably. 70.79.199.207 is another Shaw Cable IP.
Clpo13 killed both closed sections per WP:NOTFORUM. Again, not a bad call. They were a distraction.
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d0bd77 No.328005
Here's a thought: Since the battle shifted to CON's page, any pro-GG wikieditors going to the Gamergate page and fix it to remove all the slandering and make it as neutral and concise as possible?
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d0bd77 No.328013
Michael Hardy proposed decision is out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Proposed_decision#Proposed_principles
Early voting leans toward Everybody Shut The Fuck Up And Go Home, the best possible resolution IMO. There may be a monthlong "probation" topic ban on all participants to keep it from flaring up again.
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d0bd77 No.328026
>>328005
Knowing the autism of the house-PoV cabal, inclusion of actual factual information, properly sourced, will be reverted near-instantly and the page locked "to prevent vandalism" and you get topic-banned or worse. You can try…
It's the SYSTEM that's the problem.
If wikipedos actually followed all the same rules as written; this shit would have been fixed, cited, and done with in 2014
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d0bd77 No.328069
I hope you all have been paying attention to this discussion about the Washington Examiner on the reliable sources noticeboard, it's really good. One of the few places IP editors haven't been muscled out of the gamergate discourse, I'm surprised they still haven't locked it out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Crash_Override_Network
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d0bd77 No.328080
Holy shit, for once Jimbo actually responded to something about Gamergate on his talk page. I missed it because he of course archived the discussion at the speed of light.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_211#Gamergate_controversy_draft
Let's see what it was… In response to a post by anti-GG and general shithead JzG, Jimbo said
>I'm not sure I agree with your assessment. I agree that "The present article makes a strong case for this being a largely one-sided dispute, with gross abuses perpetrated by a cadre of misogynist asshats." But I am less sure about "That appears also to be the consensus view of every independent source I've read in my efforts to understand this". For example, the quote from the NYT referenced above: "The Gamergate movement is described in The New York Times as "those who see ethical problems among game journalists and political correctness in their coverage" is an example which moves beyond that.
>I have not had time to review this proposed draft closely enough, nor to closely review our existing entry. Because of the high emotions around this topic, I'd prefer not to comment much without spending some significant time getting back up to speed. But I'd like to recommend that emotional language like "a cadre of misogynist asshats" are unlikely to move our conversation here at Wikipedia forward in the smoothest way. Even if that were true, it is entirely possible that we could have a biased article showing only one side of the dispute. This is where NPOV gets hard.–Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:40, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.328099
The Clinton Foundation page has a gap in a list of the foundation's annual revenue for 2012-2013-____-2015. Glennconti filled in the gap with numbers from the foundation's tax returns. Scjessey claimed that primary sources were not allowed and did not listen when Glennconti pointed out the policy exemption for this type of case, so Glennconti came back with an reliable secondary source, the Daily Caller.
Scjessey claimed "The Daily Caller is not a reliable source" and accused Glennconti of being "an agenda-driven editor" for wanting to fill in this gap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Clinton_Foundation&diff=739894747&oldid=739894292
Glennconti cited Politifact and Washington Post. Scjessey reverted and lied "None of the secondary sources support these statements."
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clinton_Foundation&diff=next&oldid=739911808
Glennconti went to ANI accusing Scjessey of "Ownership of the Clinton Foundation Article". JzG threatened to block Glennconti and promised that no administrator would do anything about Scjessey's behavior.
> The only thing admins are going to do about this is tell you to drop the stick. Guy (Help!) 10:36, 19 September 2016 (UTC)}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Ownership_of_the_Clinton_Foundation_Article
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d0bd77 No.328101
>>328099
That's fucked up, but sadly expected behavior from the Wikipedos.
In Gamergate-realted news, MarkBernstein tried to appeal his block by effectively saying he was NOTHERE and shitting on the project while claiming Wikipedia is a threat to society. Anti-Gamergate shitbucket PeterTheFourth copied it over to AE where he tried to poison the well against The Wordsmith by linking an archive of Wordsmith's reddit comments with Salvidrim about Mark's ban violation, and some of the usual suspects tried to get MarkBernstein off the hook.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=740044571#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_MarkBernstein
It was ultimately declined as no consensus to unblock, Mark was not happy and has added to the crybaby creed he took from Travis Mason-Bushman/NorthBySouthBaranof.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MarkBernstein&diff=next&oldid=740069553
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d0bd77 No.328116
>>328101
>>327973
>>327997
thanks for the updates, it can be tiring following this shit personally.
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d0bd77 No.328164
>>328013
> Michael Hardy proposed decision is out
The proposed decision includes a warning that doesn't look like it will pass but it shows that they were thinking about it:
> 4) Boing! said Zebedee is reminded to review the merits of a case and attempt prior dispute resolution before requesting an Arbitration Case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Proposed_decision#Boing.21_said_Zebedee_reminded
an IP had presented evidence of Boing jumping the gun before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael_Hardy/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=734072419
The IP was blocked for that and Boing! said Zebedee revoked its talk page access. I thought admins weren't supposed to take action where they are involved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:130.157.201.59#August_2016
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d0bd77 No.328166
>>322601
> WMF lawyer abandons ship
> The foundation's legal director, Yana Welinder, has quietly departed.
Bio:
http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/about/people/yana-welinder https://archive.is/2auc3
> She is also an Affiliate at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University.
> She has also worked as a Google Policy Fellow at the Electronic Frontier Foundation
It seems like all of these people are connected, even the ones who can't put up with the bullshit of the other ones.
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d0bd77 No.328203
A Korean historian found old diaries and testimonies that contradict Wikipedia's description of Japan's comfort women program as it operated in Korea. Binksternet brushed that all aside with "a very reliable source", one Communist Party member known for traveling to North Korea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Serial_Kidnapping_of_Korean_Women_in_1930%27s
And of course the historian was indeffed and condemned for producing "walls of text".
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d0bd77 No.328207
hahahaha, Ryulong butts into a Japanese wiki to lecture the native speakers on a complex question that divides Japanese linguists
while writing in broken gaijinkana
https://twitter.com/AntisocialJW2/status/779239879720828928
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d0bd77 No.328288
Intense bickering has been going on at the Crash Override Network hagiography for a while now as SPAs and POV pushers scream and flail to keep any mention on the Skype leaks out of the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Crash_Override_Network
A 'male feminist' calling himself MjolnirPants has been making an ass of himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crash_Override_Network&type=revision&diff=741188374&oldid=741186601
EdJohnston wanted to shut it down by getting the 500/30 applied to the pages (Wordsmith declined to implement it at this time): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Wordsmith&diff=prev&oldid=741334979
The pageant winner mentioned in the presidential debate has also been the subject of edit warring regarding her being accused of murder and supposedly bearing the child of a cartel boss, and the article has been locked down and sanitized of negative content: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alicia_Machado&action=history
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d0bd77 No.328344
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d0bd77 No.328348
Today on ANI, Zaostao has a Nazi statue on their user page. User indeffed, huge outrage spilling onto their talk page. Did they actually break policy? Who cares?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Possible_hard-right_propaganda_on_a_user_page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zaostao
Meanwhile an IP from Qatar adds pro-terrorist propaganda to the wiki. The user reporting this gets told, what's the problem?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Edits_promoting_terrorism
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d0bd77 No.328355
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d0bd77 No.328357
>>328355
> Seems like he was just fucking with people for the lulz and false flagged harassment against himself.
Since they found evidence proving this, shouldn't they call it an alt-right conspiracy theory and ban everyone saying that's what he's doing?
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d0bd77 No.328358
This is one of the very few threads on here i bother to check.
keep up the good work shitlords
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d0bd77 No.328380
@AntisocialJW2 follows Ryulong's entertaining antics across wikis
https://twitter.com/AntisocialJW2/status/784998551843504128
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d0bd77 No.328386
A serious proposal by Hijiri88: Let's ban anyone who reports my friend to ANI! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi announces his support and JzG tries to negotiate a compromise where filers are banned from participating in the discussion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal:_Six-month_moratorium_on_SwisterTwister-related_ANI_threads
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d0bd77 No.328410
The Hamas supporters guarding the Hamas article, Nableezy and Nishidani, aggravated the sane users until Kamel Tebaast made a WP:POINTy edit to Bill Clinton's article to show how absurd their position was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hamas&diff=743694560&oldid=743689654
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Clinton&diff=prev&oldid=743693546
So they took him to AE and got him indeffed.
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d0bd77 No.328413
>>328380
If he's a lolcow then he needs to be milked to death he does a perfectly good job turning himself into a lolcow what with that egomaniac personality of his
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d0bd77 No.328425
Zero000 takes Crock81 to ANI with a pageful of charges. Crock81 calmly and briefly addresses the accusations point by point with very small paragraphs, so ANI responds:
> I don't think anyone wants to trundle through that wall of text. Consider consolidating your salient points.–WaltCip (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
> How the hell is anyone expected to plough through this and come to a conclusion beyond, "this is one of the most disruptive walls of text I have ever seen on ANI"? … Blackmane (talk) 21:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
and Dennis Brown hatted the responses so no one could continue discussing any of them, with the text: "Very long."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Editor_Crock81
That is all lack of competence (CIR) and expressions of refusal to work collaboratively by these three.
The crux of the matter (pun intended) is that one of the sources Crock81 had cited was a (gasp) JEWISH document! It happens to be the document that defines the subject, but this is Wikipedia so lol fucking jews, BANNED.
I almost didn't mention this one because Crock81's behavior was some distance from perfect but the responses at ANI were even worse. So Wikipedia is now without another veteran editor who has a talent for digging up sources.
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d0bd77 No.328427
>>328425
No kidding, the blocking admin EdJohnston called him a kike!
> Apparently it is of great importance to you whether one or both of the contending parties in the Middle East should be considered to be indigenous peoples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Crock81
Yes when one of these is an indigenous party with 3000 years of recorded history there and the other is a terrorist organization founded within living memory to exterminate the first, someone might have an interest in not having his entire people murdered. This is a bad thing on Wikipedia.
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d0bd77 No.328468
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d0bd77 No.328503
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d0bd77 No.328504
>>328503
>Thursday, October 23
Can't they even do dates right, or will they be revising the calendar too?
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d0bd77 No.328505
>>328504
> Can't they even do dates right, or will they be revising the calendar too?
It's from 2014.
YYJ airport code + Clearihue building = University of Victoria, British Columbia, Canada in case anyone was wondering where this was from.
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d0bd77 No.328535
Drmies wants to ban anyone who mentions that the Clinton campaign started riots, calling it "partisan nonsense" even though two people have resigned because they were caught doing it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#2016_Donald_Trump_Chicago_rally_protest
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d0bd77 No.328541
They still won't allow Literally Who?'s Wikipedia page to state that her birthname is Chelsea Van Valkenburg.
http://archive.is/68s6h
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d0bd77 No.328573
The Southern Poverty Law Center exposed itself as an obvious front for Islamist extremists by describing Quilliam Foundation founder Maajid Nawaz as an "anti-Muslim extremist" because he tweeted a Jesus and Mo cartoon.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9210/splc-racists
The FBI stopped working with SPLC in 2014.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/28/editorial-the-fbi-dumps-a-hate-group/
What's the Wikipedia connection? SPLC is still considered reliable on Wikipedia.
For anyone doing research, here are some results from a drama board search for SPLC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&profile=default&search=%22SPLC%22+prefix%3AWikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard
February 7, 2011
argument between Kim van der Linde and ObjectivelyWise over SPLC's designation of Family Research Council as a hate group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive671#POV_pushing_by_single_purpose_account_User:ObjectivelyWise_at_Family_Research_Council.
August 2012
IRWolfie asks if SPLC is reliable for a specific edit.
> Egad, are we here again? The SPLC does a ton of fact checking and is widely quoted as a factual source. The linked addition to the American Vision page was perfectly legitimate. Binksternet (talk) 23:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_130#Southern_Poverty_Law_Center
August-September 2012
An RFC finds that the SPLC's designation of a small organization as a hate group should be in the lead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Illinois_Family_Institute#RfC_Should_SPLC_.22hate_group.22_designation_be_in_the_lead.3F
September 2012
Arthur Rubin accuses MrX of SYNTHing accusations that groups engaged in hate speech because SPLC listed them as hate groups without saying what they said.
Binksternet defends the synth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive197#User:Arthur_Rubin_reported_by_User:MrX_.28Result:_No_violation.2C_wrong_forum.29
September 2012
RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Southern_Poverty_Law_Center/Archive_11#RfC:_Which_descriptor.2C_if_any.2C_can_be_added_in_front_of_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_when_referenced_in_other_articles.3F
June 11, 2013
CSDarrow reported by Binksternet for adding text from SPLC describing the Mens Right's movement as "mail-order-bride shoppers, unregenerate batterers" to show how bad a source they are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive216#User:CSDarrow_reported_by_User:Binksternet_.28Result:_1_month.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive800#I_feel_I_am_possibly_being_bullied_by_4_admins_over_SPLC_material_in_the_Men.27s_Movement_page.
May 3, 2014
Dougweller reports TheFallenCrowd for removing information about Arthur Kemp that was cited to SPLC.
TheFallenCrowd said the information was disputed by a contrary report in The Independent, and claims "Dougweller's objections are clearly politically motivated because they embarrass the SPLC."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive839#User_TheFallenCrowd_at_Arthur_Kemp
TheFallenCrowd responds in August accusing Dougweller "Lies, Bias and Abuse of Position".
Ian Thomson called TheFallenCrowd a white supremacist and multiple editors accused TheFallenCrowd of sockpuppetry.
BBB23 cleared TheFallenCrowd of the socking charge after he was blocked for 3 months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive852#Lies.2C_Bias_and_Abuse_of_Position:_User_DougWeller
May 10, 2014
User:66.225.161.37 reported by User:NorthBySouthBaranof (Result: 7 days)
> Claims that the SPLC is a fringe source are of course nonsense. Black Kite (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive244#User:66.225.161.37_reported_by_User:NorthBySouthBaranof_.28Result:_7_days.29
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d0bd77 No.328574
SPLC drama search, continued
August 9, 2014
> User:Binksternet and User:Roscelese are tag-teaming me, as retaliation for an edit I made at SPLC that they hate.
Doug Weller accused the reporter of sockpuppetry
Acroterion accused the reporter of "race-baiting soapboxing"
> Support NOTHERE block for the IP. BMK (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
> Recommend this request be closed and the IP be blocked. TFD (talk) 08:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive895#Harrassment.2C_Race-Baiting_Personal_Attacks.2C_Edit-Warring_and_NPOV_Violations
April 15, 2014
LordFixIt reported Aprock over an argument about a category for organizations designated as hate groups by the SPLC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive836#Accusation_of_bad_faith
May 5, 2015
MrX reported an IP to 3RR for removing SPLC-cited material from Pamela Geller BLP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive280#User:2602:306:3644:13A0:FCCE:7B75:495D:D057_reported_by_User:MrX_.28Result:_Semi.29
June 7, 2015
NeilN reported an IP for describing the SPLC as "a far left organization that does not track Muslim terror groups", adds comment "First edit shows what IP is here for."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive284#User:98.246.208.42_reported_by_User:NeilN_.28Result:_Blocked.29
May 30, 2016
RandomScholar30 asks whether Wikipedia should quote Debbie Schlussel in her own words rather than quote SPLC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_208#Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_on_Debbie_Schlussel.27s_Anti-Muslim_stance
June 28, 2016
SPLC calls Clarion Project a hate group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive927#The_Clarion_Project
September 5, 2016
WilliamNOtis claimed SPLC is not a reliable source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pamela_Geller#References_to_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center
JzG indefinitely blocked WilliamNOtis and said "The SPLC is a highly regarded source for exactly that kind of judgment"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WilliamNOtis#September_2016_2
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d0bd77 No.328586
>>328573
>Southern Poverty Law Center
Try pedowood. Yes, really.
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d0bd77 No.328596
>>328586
> >Southern Poverty Law Center
> Try pedowood. Yes, really.
[citation needed]
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d0bd77 No.328639
from KiA: a minor civil war between PeterTheFourth and MjolnirPants over the CON leaks
http://archive.is/5KBSa
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d0bd77 No.328708
Darkfrog24 sent an appeal to WP:ARC. Opabinia regalis explains Wikipedia's new Competence Is Forbidden policy:
> the fact of the matter is that you have demonstrated in abundance your ability to argue minutia to exhaustion, and the pattern of arguing minutia to exhaustion is itself disruptive.
WiA thread: https://np.red*dit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/5c9tbv/editor_asks_arbcom_to_confirm_whether_are_you/
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d0bd77 No.328730
Every anti-Gamergate Wikipedia editor I have checked up on has been crying over the Trump election. Some people have been saying Gamergate probably helped get Trump elected to some degree, so good job folks, you sure showed those gobbergloppers.
This includes Robert "Gamaliel" Fernandez, who you'll remember made an ass of himself in April this year after running anti-Trump 'pranks' for April 1st in the Signpost.
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d0bd77 No.328731
>>328730
More salt.
Really makes you wonder what the world would be like if Chelsea Van Valkenburg/Zoe Quinn hadn't decided to fuck Five Guys while supposedly in love with Eron, or if Nathan Grayson had taken the 30 seconds to add a disclosure to his articles.
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d0bd77 No.328746
>>328730
>>328731
Some of them should be topic banned from American politics because they are clearly incapable of editing from a neutral perspective. Gamaliel in particular misrepresents what Trump said, and misrepresenting sources is supposed to be a big no-no on Wikipedia.
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d0bd77 No.328803
Volunteer Marek brought bloodofox to AE for battleground behavior such as calling him a shill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#bloodofox
Tiptoethrutheminefield noted that Volunteer Marek, as Radeksz, was caught shilling before so he may not be as horribly offended by that accusation as he claims to be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern_European_mailing_list#Radeksz
Volunteer Marek has also been caught tag-teaming with WeijiBaikeBianji, TheRedPenOfDoom, and ArtifexMayhem. No action was taken on that except the filer was blocked and Mark Bernstein made a vague threat to open a trap "that in the worst case might prove large enough to encompass the entire project."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive178#WeijiBaikeBianji
Drmies blocked Tiptoe for 3 days for bringing up Volunteer Marek's past behavior. jpgordon rejected Tiptoe's appeal, without reading it, on the non-grounds that Tiptoe has previously been blocked for other things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield#November_2016
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d0bd77 No.328836
>>328803
Bloodofox was topic banned for a year by EdJohnson. James J. Lambden posted a table showing that all recent AE complaints against pro-Clinton editors had been dropped, while most AE complaints against their political opponents had led to sanction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#bloodofox
Bloodofox removed the topic ban notification as "Pointless grandstanding, Wikipedia at its worst"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bloodofox&diff=750684760&oldid=750673279
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d0bd77 No.328847
Robert Walker wrote an excellent essay about the insanity of Wikipedia, using what happened to Clarawood and Sagerad as examples.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-frustrating-aspects-of-being-a-Wikipedia-editor/answer/Robert-Walker-5
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d0bd77 No.328944
Wikipedia has a pair of new web pages about "Fake News", a new slogan that is used as a partisan effort by Democrats to smear Republicans news sources by associating them with quack websites while saying nothing about the fake news on TV and published in the New York Times. Republicans have done themselves no help by spreading fake news through social media, but that is besides the point.
Fake News Website created by JFHutson 15 November 2016. Additional work by IP 69.50.70.9 (Antigua, probably a VPN user), Victorgrigas, Sagecandor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fake_news_website&offset=&limit=5000&action=history
List of Fake News Websites created by JFHutson 18 November 2016. List added by Kaldari. Additional work by Victorgrigas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_fake_news_websites&offset=&limit=500&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_fake_news_websites&diff=750288771&oldid=750211408
It somehow survived AFD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_fake_news_websites
The list is that much criticized list one person made that had "sites I don't like" mixed in with actual fake news sites. They are now listed as fake news in Wikipedia's voice.
Are there any potentially biased people named J. Hutson?
Jonathan Hutson is a strategic communications consultant with 20 years of experience managing communications for high-profile organizations and causes. He is expert in reframing narratives to advance policy advocacy campaigns and grow targeted lists of supporters through earned media, digital strategy, and multi-media story telling.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhutson https://archive.is/MupYN
Meet the Activist Who Smelled Something Fishy With the FBI's Anti-Clinton Records Dump, and Got Internal Watchdogs Investigating
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/meet-activist-who-smelled-something-fishy-fbis-anti-clinton-records-dump-and-got https://archive.is/zoowg
This Jonathan Hutson (not confirmed to be the other guy) has written for Political Research Associates.
http://www.politicalresearch.org/author/j-hutson/ https://archive.is/9xhTZ
Political Research Associates is Chip Berlet's group. Wikipedia, led by SlimVirgin and Phil Sandifer, was defending Berlet as a reliable source and banning his political opponents a decade ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chip_Berlet/Archive_2
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1243 https://archive.is/3Pdhs
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6505 https://archive.is/U2J4O
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_others
For evidence against this identity, Wikipedia's JFHutson wrote about Calvinism. That is not the sort of thing a lefty would be into.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Calvinism#Neo-Calvinism_as_definition_of_Calvinism.3F
Victor Grigas is a Storyteller for the Wikimedia Foundation. That seems to be his official job title.
https://twitter.com/victorgrigas https://archive.is/8bTOW
https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorgrigas https://archive.is/jXT0V
Ryan Kaldari is another WMF employee.
It looks like these pages are an officially sanctioned partisan hit list.
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d0bd77 No.328949
>>328944
While I'm not denying that this is really bad, TOW/J. Hutson does appear to be mainly hitting sites that actually make shit up for fun and/or pretend to be other news organizations. I'm going to keep an eye on this anyway, and make sure to contest any pushes they may make to discredit people.
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d0bd77 No.328953
At RationalWiki, David Gerard has permabanned Aneris (a user who Gerard has been fighting with and trying to ban for over a year) and used the Oversight tool to hide nearly everything about the incident.
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Aneris&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1
What did Aneris do? He complained that Gerard was using the RationalWiki twitter account as his personal mouthpiece and seems to have cited Gerard's history of support for anti-Gamergate pedophile Nicholas "Sarah Butts" Nyberg as part of his reasonings.
>21:52, 3 December 2016 David Gerard (Talk | contribs) blocked Aneris (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of π×infinity! (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (4/5 board vote to ban: no, you can't use RW as a platform to call people paedos. Go away.)
You might recall something about Gerard and Nyberg from this time last year when he and Ryulong were shitting up the place and white knighting the pedo, ending with Gerard throwing a tantrum and blocking users and locking down the Gamergate pages
Speaking of Ryulong, another one of the Horsemen of Wikibias showed up for me recently when I was checking out Pizzagate. Travis Mason-Bushman aka NorthBySouthBaranof is one of the ones edit warring over the Pizzagate redirect (which they are trying to make say that it is "debunked")
http://archive.is/O13mh
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456333
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizzagate&offset=&limit=500&action=history.
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d0bd77 No.328964
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d0bd77 No.328965
Here's a claim that the page for the BNP is controlled by its political opponents
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8122
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d0bd77 No.329045
Editors on the Haredi Judaism article have been reworking the images. Debresser removed a few images which he thought were not illustrative. Nomoskedasticity called Debresser a misogynist because these happened to be images of women. Debresser took Nomo to ANI for the insult and edit warring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haredi_Judaism#Image
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Editor_fighting_the_war_of_women
Responses:
> Nomoskedasticity certainly appears to have a valid point… ‑ Iridescent 18:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
> I have to say that it is not unreasonable to request more images of women in the article… John Carter (talk) 19:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
> …as for this filing, the OP deserves at minimum a trout. Jytdog (talk) 19:11, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Mr rnddude complains that everyone is ignoring the reported issue.
> I'm not gonna lie, I'm a bit disappointed with the above, quite sad that an offensive label being handed down is no issue just carry on, but, the fact that an article doesn't currently have equal representation is an issue that supercedes civility and/or NPA. That said, frankly, this is a whole crock of shite and somebody should close away. Mr rnddude (talk) 19:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Mr rnddude gave Nomo a warning. Nomo's response repeats the personal attack.
> "Misogyny" refers to the contributions of the editor, not the editor himself. So we're good. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Nomoskedasticity carries on with ABF at ANI:
> And yet you only want to delete pictures of women. How interesting. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
> I think it's worth providing some background information here. Most Haredi Jews don't want to encounter portrayals of women in public… it's not hard to imagine that if certain editors were themselves Haredi they might object on religious grounds to an article on Haredi Jews that included photographs of women. It's possible that they know better than to express their objections in these terms… Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:11, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
EEng closes:
> My first-ever close! This is a content dispute if I ever saw one. EEng 02:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Personal attacks? What personal attacks?
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d0bd77 No.329047
There is a squabble at the Breitbart News page. MrX wants to change the descriptor from "conservative" to "far-right" citing anti-Trump media complaining when Trump appointed Breitbart editor Steve Bannon to his transition team. MrX collected a list of 33 sources to support him. Dissenters noted that these sources were mostly opinion pieces written in the past week, but they were outvoted and sneered at for being IPs or low-volume users. MrX's supporters included Raquel Baranow, Tataral, Neutrality, Grayfell, Anthonyhcole, Nomoskedasticity, Volunteer Marek, Sagecandor, Daaxix, Beyond My Ken, BU_Rob13, Casprings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Breitbart_News#Survey:_Should_Breitbart_be_described_as_far-right_in_the_lead.3F
Black Kite closed with the message "yes, it is appropriate, in certain circumstances, to refer to Breitbart as far-right. However this should never be equated (unless with absolutely reliable sourcing) with anything relating to racism or fascism." This advice was promptly ignored by MrX et al.
One of the opponents was blocked as a sockpuppet of Cali11298 based on a Likely finding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Cali11298
Cali11298 was blocked for edit warring with Binksternet, Dave Dial, and an IP to defend Jesse Helms against a claim that Helms "blocked black judges from being considered for the federal bench." Cali11298 thought the page should mention the fact that Helms voted for Clarence Thomas, but Binksternet and the IP called it "SYNTH" to say that Thomas is a black federal judge who Helms voted for. Bbb23 blocked Cali11298 for "edit warring" to add this information. Cali11298 claims to have stopped editing and accepted consensus before the block. Bbb23 declined the appeal for the block he had imposed. On a second appeal, OhNoitsJamie accused Cali11298 of violating "NOTTHEM" for saying that Bbb23 had blocked him for something he hadn't done, and agreed with Binksternet that it is "SYNTH" to say that Helms voted for Thomas. On a third appeal, Floquenbeam openly ridiculed him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cali11298
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jesse_Helms#helms.27s_votes_on_black.2C_federal_judicial_nominees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jesse_Helms&offset=&limit=500&action=history
Cali11298 was also blocked for a day for edit warring with Binksternet and VQuakr over whether the page on abstinence-only sex education should claim that all studies find it ineffective when there is at least one study that finds it effective. Doc James removed a reference to the study as a "primary source" and Binksternet removed a secondary source reporting on it for failing MEDRS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive277#User:Cali11298_reported_by_User:VQuakr_.28Result:_24_hours.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstinence-only_sex_education&offset=&limit=500&action=history
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d0bd77 No.329069
Wikipedia has a new unblockable. Sagecandor is a new account created on November 17 that jumped into the Fake News Website page and is exhibiting ownership behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fake_news_website#Russia_Today_fails_as_reliable_source_about_Russian_propaganda_by_Russian_government
> Source Russia Today fails WP:RS as not reliable source about Russian propaganda by Russian government. Please don't use this source, especially not in this article. Thank you ! Sagecandor (talk) 14:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
> RT is a news station. It may have flaws, but it reported something which appears to contradict claims made by a US comedy programme… N-HH talk/edits 08:16, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
> You are factually incorrect. Nothing is sourced to a comedy show or to a government source. It is all sourced to secondary sources. Perhaps you may not know the difference between a WP:PRIMARY source and a WP:SECONDARY source? Sagecandor (talk) 20:39, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
> Er, there's a whole subsection of claims about Russian "trolls" sourced to Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, which is a news-based comedy show… Feel free to be confused yourself, but don't accuse me of it. N-HH talk/edits 20:47, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
> Nope. Not sourced to Full Frontal with Samantha Bee. Read WP:SECONDARY, please. Sagecandor (talk) 20:49, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
> Yes, the original source of the claims is Full Frontal. That's the show the interviews were with and which made the claims in question. Other outlets have, in turn, simply reported/repeated that "Full Frontal did/said this". This is not hard. Or shouldn't be. And please stop telling me about the difference between primary and secondary sources, whether in WP-land or elsewhere. I know the difference, and it just makes you look patronising on top of everything else. N-HH talk/edits 20:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Among the editors arguing for inclusion of the RT report was Solntsa90. Sagecandor and Neutrality took Solntsa90 to AE citing Solntsa90's defense of the RT report as a violation of his topic ban from Vladimir Putin. EdJohnston blocked Solntsa90 for three months for "failing to adhere to community standards in the area of WP:ARBEE", an area under discretionary sanctions.
While the AE case went on, Drmies blocked Solntsa90 for a week for questioning how the editors were misapplying RS to say things in Wikipedia's voice that can not possibly be correct.
> I think the issue here is who decides that they are the arbiter of truth? Is it simply by how much media influence you have, how much money you spend on advertising or your editorial team, etc.? [[User:Solntsa90|Solntsa90]] ([[User talk:Solntsa90|talk]]) 18:04, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pizzagate_(conspiracy_theory)&diff=prev&oldid=753695469#Debunked_conspiracy_theory
Sorry, Solntsa90. You are too wise to edit on Wikipedia. No one is allowed to discuss the fact that the public relations industry exists.
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d0bd77 No.329081
"Wikipedia entry on Trump, Then(2006 & 2014) and now"… Or… "Lying liberals rewrite history to conform to their world view"
https://voat.co/v/politics/1474409
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d0bd77 No.329085
Lavabaron attacks Sagecandor! And I had thought they might be part of the same paid editing group based on their similar behavior. Lavabaron hypocritically lectures Sagecandor about pretending to be a new user. Sagecandor had opened the thread by accusing everyone who disagreed with him of being a paid Russian propagandist, which is Lavabaron's preferred battleground tactic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Concerns_about_potential_influx_of_Russian_propaganda_users
Crosswords reports that Sagecandor stalked him across wikis.
> He actually did harassed me in Wikimedia Commons. Just because i uploaded the Google Search Statistics for the term Fake News in a picture, he immediately went and flagged many of my other uploaded pictures for other articles as copyright violations. Pictures who dont even have anything to do with things he/shes interested in like a picture of a videogame disc or a map showing where HIV/Aids is mostly widespread in Russia.–Crossswords (talk) 19:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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d0bd77 No.329124
Someguy1221 reported new user Ellaqmentry as a "sockpuppet POV pusher." Zero diffs of evidence were presented. Ellaqmentry claimed to have done nothing more than give MEDRS on the talk page. Ivanvector said there was not enough evidence to open an SPI case let alone close one. JzG and Bishonen blocked with Ellaqmentry with Arthur Rubin and MjolnirPants concurring. MjolnirPants attempted to prove that Ellaqmentry must be a sock by saying "Most of the United States had valid reason to get ready to welcome our first female president a few months ago, for example."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Sockpuppet_POV_pusher_at_Acupuncture
Timotheus Canens topic-banned SashiRolls from AE for daring to present evidence against Sagecandor. Dennis Brown then blocked SashiRolls for six months for following Sagecandor to another page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#Tlroche
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#SashiRolls
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d0bd77 No.329143
Mottseboh, David A, and The Armchair General tried to add two lines to the Southern Poverty Law Center page about the Israeli ambassador condemning the SPLC for blacklisting Maajid Nawaz. North Shoreman and The Quixotic Potato removed the text as undue, with The Four Deuces concurring on Talk and accusing the other editors of supporting Frank Gaffney. The Quixotic Potato went to ANI and accused the other editors of being an 8chan raid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&offset=&limit=500&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOVN#SPLC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#SPLC
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d0bd77 No.329148
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d0bd77 No.329159
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d0bd77 No.329173
Dirk Beetstra of Saudi Arabia Basic Industries Corporation (SABIC) and the King Abdullah University of Science and Technology (KAUST), who identifies himself publicly and makes no attempt to hide his identity, wrote a script to mass-remove references to Twitter. This angered several users who said that these reverences should be considered on an individual basis. The Quixotic Potato, another scripter from the Netherlands, jumped in to say that anybody who complained did not understand policy, insinuating that they should be banned for lack of competence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Beetstra_and_Twitter.2F_Facebook
This exchange is typical:
> @Only in death: How does Beestra's automated script check whether consensus exists, for a given article? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:48, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
> You still seem to misunderstand the guideline, please ask someone to explain it to you. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 11:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Only in Death also joined in on their side without the insults.
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d0bd77 No.329183
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
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NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
Archive of this thread: https://archive.is/RYlD1
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