d61814 No.299799 [View All]
That's what you get for playing both sides.
archive.is/5nhYJ
Got shunned hard by Ubi and Bethesda, Totilla is salty as all hell.
BTFO
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d61814 No.300272
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d61814 No.300273
>>300258
>tinyurlDOTCOM/na7vrl2
The fuck is that.
Here:
https://archive.is/t6W9O
> … this has brought the informal movement known as #Gamergate out swinging. The movement that claims it exists because of a lack of ethics in games journalism seems to have taken a serious dislike to the fact that Kotaku has called out these two publishers.
Journalism at its finest.
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d61814 No.300283
>>300273
>The movement that claims it exists because of a lack of ethics in games journalism seems to have taken a serious dislike to the fact that Kotaku has called out these two publishers.
Can you actually read, negro, or is it that you simply can't be bothered?
"Taken a serious dislike"? I must've missed that over everyone here laughing their asses off.
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d61814 No.300286
This is just another symptom of the dying video game press.
I bet Ubisoft and Bethesda make sure all the youtube video reviewers get advanced copies.
That is actually going to affect their sales.
Its funny really, if Kotaku hadnt spent the last two years bullying gamers, we probably would have backed them up on this.
All it takes is a small threat that some customers would be pissed off to have an effect.
But as it stands there probably isnt a single person in the gaming world who would boycott the games based on what has happened to Kotaku.
Anyway, Kotaku can still review all those important indie SJW games about womysn issues right?
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d61814 No.300287
>>300283
Somehow Kotaku entitlement = ethics.
That's what it all boils down to, Kotaku acting like they're entitled, at least two publishers think not. Ethics don't even enter into it.
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d61814 No.300295
Reminder that we wanted these corrupt sites to bleed out in the first place after they showed zero willingness to honestly address what they did.
Glad to see at least some sectors of the industry are starting to get sick of their shit. Let them burn.
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d61814 No.300305
Kotaku (a subsidiary of Gawker) smears us and aGG acts surprised when we won't put on a suit of armor and act like their white knights. I'm no fan of Ubisoft's antics but I'm not going to feel bad for someone who shot themselves in the foot while playing with a loaded gun.
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d61814 No.300313
>>300258
Technically they can write what ever they want since no one gonna verify it anyway.
Normies just listen and believe and lash out on you if you try to explain how things actually stand but not a single person will bother to visit here or KiA and see for themselves.
I think its the same way MRA have this horrible label stuck to them, everyone just believe what ever they hear but never bother to check themselves.
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d61814 No.300321
>>300313
>no one gonna verify it anyway
I was wondering about the comment section for https://archive.is/t6W9O
After reading dozens of posts by the army of blue-pilled useful idiots, then I read pic-related; written by one of the red-pill master-race, which I assume has since been either deleted or buried.
…and this is why there's a rush to close the comment-sections for being "toxic" or "misogynistic" any other number of P(ussy)C(rushing) buzzwords, for left-wing/SJW-allied media in order to silence those who do go check the facts, comment those facts, and effectively DO THE JOURNALIST'S JOB FOR THEM.
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d61814 No.300370
>>300243
We're celebrating Kotaku getting fucked. They attacked their own audience for daring to speak up about ethics. Now they're getting fucked over in an unethical way. Maybe if they didn't do their fucking best to put the brakes on the GG train for no other reason than clicks then developers today would be more careful about doing this kind of stuff and Kotaku wouldn't be getting burned right now.
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d61814 No.300371
>>300258
Insane with what? smug righteousness maybe
So they published leaked info about big budget to feed their click baity website then acted surprised when publishers blacklisted their mangy asses.
Kotaku diddu nuffin Screamed the Kotaku staff we are innocent they cried it is clearly favoritism on the part of the publishers they certainly aren't reacting to our us backstabbing them and trying to sabotage their games.
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d61814 No.300372
One question remains. Only because I haven't been to shitaku for ages.
Do Ubisoft and Bethesda have advertising agreements with Kotaku?
I hope so because that would simply show Kotaku to be financial cucks.
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d61814 No.300382
>>300372
Well since they blacklisted Kotaku for quite some time now i am going to speculate that any pre existing advertising contract agreement is null and void.
Not that either party is bound to show evidence that such an agreement existed in the first place.
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d61814 No.300384
There's all these retards saying "LOOK GAMERGATE ISN'T DOING ANYTHING ABOUT KOTAKU GETTING BLACKLISTED, THEY CLEARLY SUPPORT CENSORSHIP!" But how is any of this censorship? Bethesda and Ubisoft aren't trying to stop Kotaku from doing or saying anything, they just simply aren't sending them early review copies anymore.
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d61814 No.300386
>>300384
Its mostly dumbasses or retarded newfags who don't know jackshit.
You can point out why Kotaku got blacklisted in the first to them , or tell them to eat a gun.
Fuck the Reddit section is called "KotakuInAction" for fucks sake.
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d61814 No.300406
>>300384
Aren't they the same shitlib scum who say that censorship doesn't count as censorship unless it comes from the government? lol. Death to Gawker.
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d61814 No.300433
>>300406
I came here to call you nigger
My nigger
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d61814 No.300442
>>300384
They've also cut off all communications, not returning calls and emails and such. That means that they can't get any information from these companies, or arrange interviews, or even get press releases, which is a pretty big deal. Nobody would really care if it was just them not getting early review copies. It's certainly not censorship though. They can still say whatever the hell they like, it'll just be based on second-hand information, which is really not all that big a change for Kotaku considering they're such devout followers of the school of lazy copycat journalism.
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d61814 No.300445
>>300433
Can you please refrain from using African American racial slurs at this very sensitive time of Kotaku getting blacked? #blacklivesmatter
Thanks.
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d61814 No.300458
>>300445
African-Americanlisted. Shitlord.
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d61814 No.300462
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d61814 No.300469
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d61814 No.300526
>>300445
>>300458
#blacklistsmatter
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d61814 No.300617
>>300072
>Parabolic
Lightly paraphrased from the original.
There was a period of time, not even that long a period of time in the grand scheme, where a kind of collaborative back-scratching arrangement was in operation between publishers, the developers in their charge, and the enthusiast press. It has not been dissolved utterly, but you can tell from the increasing percentage of in-line ads for not games that something key has changed. Couple that with the fact that the real action from a promotional perspective is concentrated in a single, scruffily adorable Swede and the spine of the thing is laid bare.
For years, I could never make heads or tails of the access granted to outfits whose primary contribution is aggression either towards the creators or the users of games. One some level, the agents of multinational brands want to be “liked,” for business reasons but also for the regular human reasons, but that couldn’t have been all of it. I think it was mostly just inertia: these are big ships, and they’ve been moving in a certain way for a long time. They were like British Soldiers, lining up dutifully for war against a guerilla force.
We’ll never know why or when or even if Bethesda or Ubisoft “blacklisted” Kotaku, as Kotaku claims. You would need a team of PhDs and the Large Hadron Collider to determine precisely how little I value their claims on any topic. Though, I can understand why a publisher might determine that an increasingly hostile outlet whose business model is “Start Shit” might not be the best time or money investment. And you may say, “But Jerrzorz!” and that’s all you’ll get out because you’re going to look down at the floor for a second and really think about it. Why did it ever work this way? Why would you be obligated to spend millions of dollars on something and then place it gently on the black altar of a hivemind cult, bowing as you retreat? The old accord is over. Go buy your games at the store. Do you not understand that this is literally the best thing that ever happened to you? They don’t owe you shit, and now you don’t owe them shit.
Having been the cowering creature beneath enthusiast media’s Eye of Sauron on more than one occasion, the object of their tender ministrations, their ostensible populism and their eerily synchronized perspective, I have no sympathy for these creatures. Which is to say, I have the same sympathy they express for those outside their cloister. You may feel very confident that there are conversations at every publisher now, wondering to what extent they are required to eat shit from these people.
(CW)TB out.
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d61814 No.300619
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!
Kotaku has a "Sunday Comics" post that rounds up webcomics, and because of Friday's strip criticizing Kotaku and game journalism at large PENNY ARCADE IS NO LONGER SHARED ON KOTAKU
Mike FaheyShockrates
11/22/15 11:06am
Sunday Comics is supposed to be a happy place, both for the readers and for me. I look forward to compiling this post every weekend, catching up on all of my favorite webcomics in the process.
Penny Arcade’s been one of those for ages now. I’ve bought the books and read them over and over again. I’ve got the first several years of the strip memorized. So when I am puttering along happily, reading through my weekly webcomics, and come across a comic misrepresenting a situation I’m involved in and an attached article that’s spewing hate in this direction—that’s not a good feeling.
I looked at this week’s other comics from Penny Arcade—part four of a guest story and a bit of Wednesday filler on the compulsion to win multiplayer matches—if I’d run with the latter, folks would just point out that I was avoiding the Friday comic. So I didn’t run anything.
We aren’t “blacklisting” anyone. If interesting Penny Arcade news comes up, we’ll report on it like anything else. I just don’t see the point in featuring a comic on our website from creators who actively despise it. It doesn’t make sense.
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d61814 No.300622
>>300619
JASON SCHREIER TAGS IN FOR A COMBO MOVE
Jason SchreierShockrates
11/22/15 11:11am
Fahey’s response is perfect, and yeah, there isn’t much to say about a comic that totally misrepresents what actually happened here. At no point did we claim to “see lots of problems” with unannounced/unfinished games, and at no point did the developers tell us things that they wanted to keep secret; all of the articles in question, from the Prey 2 story to the Assassin’s Creed Victory news, were based on information told to me by sources who wanted it public.
Also relevant: https://twitter.com/pkollar/status/667847022326583296/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
SALTY AS FUUUUUUUUUCK, Let's resort to attacking PA since we don't have an argument against Bald's post
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d61814 No.300627
>>300622
>At no point did we claim to “see lots of problems” with unannounced/unfinished games
Should you choose to engage with others on twitter, social media, or face-to-face on this matter, here is your gift-wrapped ammunition courtesy of ribbit
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d61814 No.300630
>>300619
>We aren’t “blacklisting” anyone.
Neither are Ubisoft and Bethesda. Kotaku are free to write about any of their products, they just have to buy them.
Kotaku not only shat where they ate, they entered an eating establishment, had their meal, shat on the table then had the gall to ask the waiter for seconds.
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d61814 No.300631
>>300630
Oh yeah, they also loudly asked to see the manager.
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d61814 No.300646
>Kotaku declares PA comics are no longer allowed in their webcomic posts
>mfw Kotaku bloggers are no longer allowed entry to future PAX
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d61814 No.300652
>>300627
So Kotaku got blacklisted for this.
This is Kotaku asking about hostage gender diversity in 2014:
https://archive.is/RwAGr
> What got me was that women in general seemed to be a taboo subject. Even when I asked about the woman hostage in Rainbow Six Siege's hostage mode (wherein teams compete to rescue or capture a hostage, as seen here)—whether there would be male hostages as well, etc—my interviewee nearly got cut off by PR.
This is Kotaku now:
https://archive.is/yIO8p#selection-3425.133-3425.217
> At no point did we claim to "see lots of problems" with unannounced/unfinised games…
These people are so blind that they deny colors even exist.
Here's a TL;DR for you journos: you were invited with Ubisoft to cover Assasin's Creed, and instead of talking about the game, you instead went full Patricia Hernández and asked if women were portrayed as damsels in distress in an article called "Ubisoft Refused To Talk To Me About Women".
Enjoy freedom of speech at its finest.
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d61814 No.300655
>>300652
They actually talked about games including A.C.
Also:
> We aren’t “blacklisting” anyone. If interesting Penny Arcade news comes up, we’ll report on it like anything else. I just don’t see the point in featuring a comic on our website from creators who actively despise it. It doesn’t make sense.
I'd love to see Ubisoft replying:
> We aren’t “blacklisting” anyone. If interesting Kotaku reviews could come up, we’ll give them more interviews like every other site. I just don’t see the point in giving more exclusive stuff to a website whose editors actively despise us. It doesn’t make sense.
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d61814 No.300658
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snt7ml
> The fundamental flaw with that metaphor is the fundamental flaw with oh so much of games journalism today: We are not in a relationship with the people we cover.
I'm pretty sure that the event that started GamerGate was precisely the undisclosure of journos being in a relationship with the people they covered.
> Over the past few years, one of the things that’s bothered me most about covering the video game world is the PR-cultivated illusion that video game publishers and journalists are buddies, that they’re on the same team, working together toward the same goals. “Hey, we’re all just here to tell people about cool video games!” You see it all over, from the booze-heavy preview events to the PR people showing up at homes and offices with free swag. You see it in the lavish “influencer” events and cross-video promotions. You see it in the video-makers criticizing Fallout 4 reviews while wearing Pip-Boys on their wrists. You see it go beyond reporting, too—big comic companies strike deals with publishers to make strips that promote the latest AAA games. That’s one of the reasons you see so many journalists switch over to PR or other fields in the industry. It’s all one big happy family.
Is this supposed to be ironic, funny?
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d61814 No.300660
>>300652
If we want to be as accurate as possible, this could actually be an incident of "Ubisoft is already ignoring us" rather than "this is the incident that made Ubisoft start ignoring us." It's hard to tell if this is the first case of Ubisoft deciding not to engage.
> We aren’t “blacklisting” anyone. If interesting Kotaku reviews could come up, we’ll give them more interviews like every other site. I just don’t see the point in giving more exclusive stuff to a website whose editors actively despise us. It doesn’t make sense.
To be fair, it's not even necessarily about the exclusive stuff. Ubisoft just literally refuses to speak to them about anything, period. I'm curious if Blizzard has done the same too, thinking back to that time Nathan Grayson tried to bait a dev for Heroes of the Storm into a feminism debate, and he says "uh huh. Yeah. Sure." and the PR dog escorts Jewfro away from the Blizzard booth. Have they had any real Blizzard contact in their stories since then? I'm sure as a company they know what's going on and to keep them at arm's length.
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d61814 No.300677
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d61814 No.300737
>>300652
>>300652
Nathan, I truly feel for you if your dad never gave you "the talk about women" (also known as "bees and flowers"), but you have to face the fact that Ubisoft is not your dad. Really, I don't understand why you have to write an entire article about your lack of sex ed as a young boy.
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d61814 No.300746
>>300660
From what I can tell, Blizzard's distancing themselves from this mess as well.
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d61814 No.300752
>>300746
So basically Kotaku has been having open pit BBQs on every bridge they have.
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d61814 No.300753
This whole industry of sending outlets free "review copies" should fucking stop anyway. It always presents a situation ripe for abuse.
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d61814 No.300816
>>300753
I believe movies do something similar as a free promotion/gimmick and usually to get those 10/10 star reviews from people you don't know and will never hear from again
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d61814 No.300922
>>300737
>when a man and a woman love each other very much
>the man writes articles about the woman
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d61814 No.304551
plebbitors found Stephen Tortilla actually got MSNBC air time to cry about this.
WEBBUM/MP4 WHEN
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d61814 No.304750
>>299808
who would visit gghq at work or at school?
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d61814 No.308231
At first they were like:
>Journalism doesn't need ethics
now they're all like:
>Where are the people to defend us from this unethical blacklist?
pathetic.
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d61814 No.308777
>>304551
Seconding the .webm request
>>304750
I work in a nuclear power plant (one of it's wharehouses) and browse /v/ and /hq/ regularly
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d61814 No.308954
>>308777
>I work in a nuclear power plant (one of it's wharehouses) and browse /v/ and /hq/ regularly
My first thought.
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d61814 No.308955
>>308777
>>308777
>I work in a nuclear power plant (one of it's wharehouses) and browse /v/ and /hq/ regularly
My first thought.
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d61814 No.309029
I unsubscribed to Kotaku. Did I do the right thing?
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d61814 No.309120
>>300195
I'll never understand that "you're just mad because I'm right" type bullshit. People get mad for different reasons - it's not always because the other person is right. It's used as a baiting tactic to make the other side look bad - piss them off and pretend you hold the higher ground because you didn't get mad.
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d61814 No.326144
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