No.2785 [Last50 Posts]
Redpill me on Windows 10, /g/. Both technical and political aspects.
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No.2786
>>2785
It's non-free (freedom denying) software. That means that it does not respect your four essential freedoms.
>The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
>The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
>The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
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No.2792
>>2785
Use it if you have nothing to hide.
Use linux if you're a dirty fucking pedophile.
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No.2797
>>2792
Everyone has something to hide, anon
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No.2821
Built in keylogger for Microsoft and NSA spooks
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No.2870
>>2786
You pay for free apps with your information.
Windows has backdoors and information collecting software installed by default and you should only use it if you have literally no worries with being spied on 24/7. It's like masturbating with your front door open and your blinds removed.
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No.2878
probably rooted since 1993... whats ur point?
intel inside ... literally meanse intel inside
these nukkas are working off firmware/bootrom exploits...hardware backdoors, router backdoors, firmware backdoors.... all internet ssl traffic goes over TLS wether its SSH or HTTPS.
it dont matter son
are they pro-alien or anti-alien thats the only thing that matters... aliens spells "alliance"
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No.2881
Use Windows if you like to play games.
Use Linux if you don't.
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No.2886
>>2797
Preach it, brother!
At some point, we all say things that people in power won't like, even if they're officially fine. You don't want constant inspection at that point. Power corrupts.
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No.2894
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No.2904
I have Windows 10 on one of my laptops and so far it's alright. Overall it's a nice upgrade from 7. They've toned back a lot of the negative aspects of Windows 8 (forced tablet bullshit) and made many usability improvements. A very small example of this is I had to reinstall Windows 10 to fix a network issue and when it finished installing it left a .html file on my desktop with a list of programs that were lost during the reset. The list even had links to redownload software, though I'm not sure how accurate it was (some intel software went to a login page for example).
Major downside is that the default option for logging in to your device is via a Windows Live account. It looks like you can use a local account instead. Also, a shitload of information is by default turned on, stuff like "tell Microsoft how I write".
TL;DR:
Good for sheep
>>2894
Microsoft says so when you sign up for the Insider program. Until it releases I'll just use my other laptop for porn. When installing with the default/express settings you agree to transmitting tons of information: Browsing info, programs, etc. All of these can be disabled on install if you do a custom install.
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No.2943
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No.2948
>>2943
Yeah if that weren't illegal I'd be doing that right now.
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No.3090
>>2786
OK. Now, why are these freedoms important? The majority of PC users have been using this non-free software for decades now and appear to be happy with it.
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No.3110
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No.3120
>>2881
at least it has more games than the xboner :^)
Seriously though, it's not quite as bad as people say. The only games I've had trouble with are Skyrim and Crysis 2, which aren't even very good.
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No.3136
>>3090
>why are these freedoms important?
Look at Microsoft, Windows 10, the state of the OS, data mining, targeted advertising, this thread, and ask yourself that question one more time.
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No.3208
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No.3260
The NSA can get you on any system. You think the NSA is like other LEA where they are retarded as shit and actually need backdoors? NSA is everywhere. They can have fucking usb cables bugged when you buy them from fucking monoprice. If they really want you, they will get you.
And if you're smart enough to protect yourself then you're either not using a PC or too smart to be on this imageboard.
Use the fucking OS that works for your needs.
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No.3261
>>3120
> I've had trouble with are Skyrim
Can tell me more? What exactly is the problem?
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No.3285
>>3260
Don't forget intel processors with built-in wifi that can be turned on remotely.
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No.3287
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No.3292
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No.3315
>>2785
Stay the fuck away. Windows 10 will give your computer AIDS.
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No.3320
>>2881
QUEMU
Play windows games with 95% processing power on a virtual machine
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No.3333
>>2904
>All of these can be disabled on install if you do a custom install.
There have been reports that you can't disable some of the tracking stuff.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
>And finally, some traffic seems quite impenetrable. We configured our test virtual machine to use an HTTP and HTTPS proxy (both as a user-level proxy and a system-wide proxy) so that we could more easily monitor its traffic, but Windows 10 seems to make requests to a content delivery network that bypass the proxy.
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No.3339
>>3260
>>3285
Are you seriously trying to tell us that we should just say fuck it all and not care about security or privacy just because it's technically possible that the NSA could find out anything if they really wanted to?
Are you assuming we are all enemies of the state or something?
They have much bigger fish to fry. Our sheer numbers is our security against that sort of thing, and it's quite effective.
I know they still have data on us, but any data they have on me is probably just robotically collected without any actual human monitoring me personally, same way any other company collects mass data on the internet.
I'm not doing anything illegal, nobody is bugging my usb cables or sitting outside my house monitoring me.
and I would be surprised if some of their data isn't also coming from google and microsoft anyway, which you're basically saying I should just give up freely.
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No.3342
>>2785
>Redpill me on Windows 10, /g/. Both technical and political aspects.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Windows, is in fact, NSA/Windows, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, NSA plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another expenseive component of a fully functioning Spy system made useful by the NSA core-spyware, reverse shell utilities and vital keylogging components comprising a full botnet as defined by Gen. J. Clapper.
Many computer users run a modified version of the botnet system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of spyware which is widely used today is often called “Windows”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NSA system, developed by the NSA. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Windows is the cover: the program in the system that hides the spying resources from the other programs that you run. The cover is an essential part of a botnet, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete botnet. Windows is normally used in combination with the NSA spyware: the whole system is basically botnet with Windows added, or NSA/Windows. All the so-called “Windows” versions are really versions of NSA/Windows.
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No.3528
>>2792
>MS hides it's source
must be filled with pedophiles
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No.3620
>>3342
This. Windows used to be called DOSSHELL until the NSA got involved. Bill saw the writing on the wall and decided to take the money instead of sticking up for the people. He was aware that they already approached Steve Jobs that same day, but Jobs had told the government that he had to "think about it." Jobs was also aware of government contracts with IBM, who provided data mining services to Germany during World War II, and did not want Apple associated with the killing of his distant relatives. It was also the reason why Apple demanded to have its own hardware type for so long because he knew how deep the US and Israeli governments had penetrated the manufacturing business and stayed that way until Jobs first discovered that he had cancer.
At that time he went back to the businessmen that offered the contract yearly, and accepted that Macs would support Intel and other PC hardware in exchange for profits in order to pay for his cancer treatments. Some of this was done under the table, and another section was done to test out propaganda techniques on the public with the form of the initial iTunes adverts. They were pleased with their success, and again in 2008 when the same techniques that were improved upon help to win a presidential election.
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No.3625
>>2878
>aliens spells alliance
1. no it doesn't
2. ayy lmao
3. you sound fucking nuts although you're right about being rooted since '93
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No.3662
>>2881
>Install Arch linux (because your not a pleb)
>Install Virtual box
>run a windows virtual machine with only steam installed on it.
You can play every game on the market without ever leaving the linux environment.
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No.4102
Dual Boot TempleOS and whatever your personal choice of OS is.
Problem fucking solved.
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No.4111
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No.4137
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No.4238
>>2785
TempleOS will...
>capture everything you'll type on your keyboard and send that to Microsoft and NSA. This data is used to improve spell checker among other things.
>listen to environment it's being used in if the microphone is plugged to system, record that stuff and send it to Microsoft and NSA. Those samples are used to improve Cortana which is Microsoft's Siri.
>turn your PC into a network node that is used to deliver updates to other PCs and deliver data from them to Microsoft and NSA. Which essentially means using your bandwidth to deliver data on behalf of Microsoft.
>capture few images from the web camera every time program starts video capture and those images will be delivered to Microsoft and NSA for image quality check.
>send list of all programs you use, some of the usage metrics and data to Microsoft and NSA. Purpose is to advertise stuff to you.
>prevents you from blocking certain network addresses even if you redirect them in your hosts file which is why almost all "prevent win10 spying" apps are useless and won't actually protect your privacy.
>turn data metrics and privacy violating features on by itself if you turn them off from the control-panel after a reboot. That includes the Microsoft's anti-virus file scanner Windows Defender which will eat CPU time and RAM and reads your files and sends data forward.
>also do... [sponsored by NSA] and ... [sponsored by NSA]... and who knows what else.
Don't install TempleOS if you care about your privacy. Rather install Linux such as Debian or CentOS.
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No.4239
>>3662
But won't that run the performance through the grinder?
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No.4280
>>3662
>20 fps with freedumb video driver
>35 fps at best with proprietary drivers because you are still at best literally emulating Windows
>Nothing "Just werks", enjoy dealing with fucked up resolutions, key bindings, sound, and textures.
>Above is assuming that Wine is even able to start the game, instead of simply closing to desktop
>Literally forced to use the command line just to do basic tasks such as changing your video driver
>Feel forced to go on the internet and rationalize using the worst OS for gaming ever because you are too poor for a Mac, and too special for Windows.
>Rebuke everything with either, "I totally don't play games anyways, not just because I can't". Or fall back on pointless meme-calling.
Set up a computer for nothing besides media/gaming and have it run Win7, then use either a laptop or another desktop running Linux for everything that isn't Steam/Youtube
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No.4285
>>4238
fuck off CIA nigger
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No.4297
>>4280
i get 60fps+ ur computer is just shit
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No.4306
>>4280
>tfw companies port to Mac but not linux.
>all my radeons and geforces out the window
>what a slap in the face
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No.4308
>>4280
i deal with linux all the time, im even on it right now, every single day, i can confirm this is pretty much exactly what a new user can expect. amd opensource drivers however are very good now, i get three times as many fps in linux verses windows in the only game i even play anymore (quake live). though the actual steam client through wine is fucking broken and has been for awhile now. you can still expect every other game to be broken in multimonitor setups.
i wish linux weren't so frustrating. its a situation where everything appears to work, but is all so unintuitive. like for example, i want to delete a folder from command line. i forget to type -r (recursive) so i cant delete the folder. for some reason linux thinks that when you want to delete a folder you wouldn't want to append -r EVEN THOUGH YOU CANT EVEN HAVE FILES AND FOLDERS OF THE SAME NAME. such an absolutely useless 'necessary' command. or how xorg forces mouse acceleration by default and the only way you can change that is with sudo permissions. and how about the fact that half of all fucking applications don't put their fucking config files in ~/.config? million little small shits that piss me the fuck off.
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No.4369
what have i done?
inb4 this is not shooped
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No.4420
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No.4444
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No.4456
If you have to use it, and you're concerned with privacy. here is a trick to disable telemetry
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No.4468
>>2792
Anon pls. i gotta hid my sekret soviet plans to take over ameriga from the gubment
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No.4613
I've been off and on /g/ for years, all I've ever discovered about Linux is that it is literally for people that want to appear special. Yet throw them a complex problem and they fuck it up 9 times out of 10.
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No.4653
>>4613
disagree, linux is for programmers tbh
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No.4654
>>4613
>>4653
There's two groups I would recommend GNU/Linux to: people who actually know their shit and people who admit that they don't know shit.
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No.4685
>Redpill me on Windows 10
>Redpill me on Windows "Just fuck my shit up edition" 10
You are now redpilled.
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No.6134
>>3662
That seems kind of redundant
why not just have a dedicated vidja machine and not use it to browse, also no webcams or mics allowed to be plugged in
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No.6542
>>4613
No, Linux is for any one who wants away from Windows bullshit and isn't afraid to google if something doesn't go as planned. That's it. That's as much special knowledge as you need.
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No.6560
I've been using Windows 10 LTSB in a VM for some development shit.
1. Had to spend a while downloading an iso
2. I tried to remove some spying cuckery with "Destroy-Windows-10-Spying" on github
3. Activated it with AutoKMS
4. Installed visual studio
sidenote: when did windows defender actually become competent?
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No.6564
>>6542
>google
<privacy intensifies
you mean the man pages right?
or at least duck duck go,
if youre gonna rely on google you may as well stick with winblows...
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No.6619
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No.6629
>>3528
>must be filled with pedophiles
Can confirm, my dad works for Microsoft.
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No.6689
>>2881
1tb hhd for cuck winblows and all of the shitty winblows only software I need. And 500gb ssd for debain with all the accounts and every thing else.
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No.6690
>>6619
>Ads in the os
Fucking 2018
Might as well get enterprise or one for ATMs and shit.
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No.6694
>>6560
>when did windows defender actually become competent?
it's still shit
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No.7284
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No.7326
You can’t search for files and it won’t remember your usernames or passwords for “security reasons”
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No.7522
>>2894
literally when you install windows one of the privacy options is to disable "inkspell" which "sends typing data to microsoft"
source: i installed windows 10 in a vm yesterday, look for yourself in the settings app
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No.7611
Windows 10 just works, all my games work and that's all I care about.
Don't listen to these Linux nerds, nobody has time for that bullshit.
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No.7620
>>7611
Posted byu/HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES
1 year ago
GNU + Linux
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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No.8701
in the process of reinstalling now because Windows Update broke beyond repair.
And their faggot USB ISO tool won't even work, so I'm gonna have to use third party.
No, this isn't my computer. I'm not a moron who runs a Windows box for vidya games.
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No.8704
>>8701
this fucking shit, seriously
>want to install windows from scratch
>who needs isos? here's a bloated tool instead!
>requires admin access because apparently downloading files is serious business
>requires 8gb on C: even when you create an usb stick or iso on another drive
>after clicking right through everything because there need to be loading screens for some reason SUDDENLY YOU GET INFORMED YOU NEED TO RUN IT VIA AN ADMIN ACCOUNT, BECAUSE APPARENTLY DOWNLOADING FILES IS SO SERIOUS BUSINESS IT DOESN'T WORK WHEN RUN AS ADMIN
>quite possibly you end up with a corrupted iso/stick ofc nothing will indicate it and only when the setup fucks itself you might start to suspect something. hope you haven't killed that old install yet or have a laptop.
>A FULL BLOWN BLOATED PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES A FULL ADMIN ACCOUNT JUST TO DOWNLOAD FILES CAN'T EVEN CHECK INTEGRITY OF THE SHIT IT DOWNLOADS
meanwhile in linux:
>download iso
>download hash
>check hash
>ok -> create stick, install.
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No.8705
>>3662
>>4239
>>4280
>>6134
If your motherboard supports IOMMU and you have 2 GPUs including integrated GPUs you can use PCI passthrough via OVMF. Which gives you near as makes no difference performance to naively running windows.
Good guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF
If you're going to try this in gentoo or arch make sure you point QEMU to the proper OVMF firmware files since the wiki isn't correct.
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No.10617
>>2792
get a new line microshill
it's no secret on here that you glow in the dark
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No.10619
>windows
pay for most software,subscription based, leased software,pop ups,spyware & malware if not careful,downloading from internet,no repositories, triple A games
>linux
mostly free software,no subscriptions,no pop ups on desktop,no malware, huge repositories download anything takes seconds, launch software in seconds with a simple command from shell, indie games
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No.10620
they're both good. don't take the memes too serious.
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No.10708
>>3090
It's like if you gave the password of your email address to every person you know. It's as if everyone could see what you're thinking 24/7.
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No.10735
>>3090
>why install a bathroom door or curtains if you have nothing to hide
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No.10752
>>2785
>2019 and not using windows xp
>feelsbadman.jpeg
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No.10910
>>2785
>political
The final sign of MS being completely merged with the government, same as Apple, Facebook and Google. If a tech company becomes too big and/or influential, they will be 'merged' (a.k.a. threatened at gun point) to become state cooperators. Basically anything you ever input in Win10 is open for review by (at least) the US government, if not all governments within the 14 eyes. Passwords, accounts, shitposts, browsing history, social connections etc. Everything. A lot of its functions are also supposed to condition people to using a centralized solution for everything in preparation for the future where everything will be traced in real time (vehicles, phones, maybe even humans themselves through implants).
>>2792
>Use it if you have nothing to hide
Nice indoctrination glowie. If you 'have nothing to hide', please go ahead and post a naked picture of you along with your phone number, address, bank account and pin. Obscurity is a basic need for humans to thrive, to be creative, to solve problems, to socialize. You can see at the example of the Chinese what becomes of a population when all privacy has vanished: A homogeneous, culturally sterile group of soulless robots that get their organs harvested at the slightest sign of dissidence.
Humans who feel 'watched' behave very differently than normal. After a while they tend to lose everything that made them an individual. They become completely numb and refuse thought, philosophy, social life, art and science in favor of blind consumerism and status projection.
Obviously this is the hell we're headed to anyway because China is the blueprint which every government aspires to be. Historians will distinguish between humanity before and after AI, because it allows governments to be omnipresent and all powerful in every aspect of our lives.
>>3339
>Our sheer numbers is our security against that sort of thing, and it's quite effective.
>I know they still have data on us, but any data they have on me is probably just robotically collected without any actual human monitoring me personally
For now, yes. AI will change that. In about 10 years AIs will become so perfect, they can literally monitor the entire world's population real time, meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according 'watch list' factor, from when a human will pick it up as soon as you become interesting enough.
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No.10923
>>2785
>redpill me on Security Theater Clickbait, The OS
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No.10924
>>10910
>In about 10 years AIs will become so perfect, they can literally monitor the entire world's population real time, meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according 'watch list' factor, from when a human will pick it up as soon as you become interesting enough.
They already do this with markoff chains. Literally every website now keeps track of you to make sure you aren't doing something "bad". Steam now on top of all their previous bullshit locks you out if your OS or browser chances. And it's shit, and full of false positives false negatives and solves made up problems. And any more "intelligent" method will be just as shit. Government tracking is no different, just another form of security theater.
>meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according
They already have this, it's called credit agencies. Why aren't you faggots doing something about this? I haven't used one in 30 years.
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No.10925
>when did windows defender actually become competent?
never you fucking faggot.
>hurr durr i hate spying am i fitting in?
>goes on to defend retarded security theater tech that just creates more vulns
>3. Activated it with AutoKMS
KYS
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No.10950
>>2786
Why do people use this Freetardism "Freedoms" for anything software, when most of this is easy to argue against. This person made a good webpage explaining the errors of this.
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/freetardism.html
But if you're not willing to go to the side, here's his writing of that section:
>"The four essential freedoms A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: [1]"
>Okay, so a program has to satisfy some defined freedoms to be considered "free software". But do those freedoms actually have any relevancy to actual, practical freedom?
Freedom 0
>"The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0)."
>"The freedom to run the program [...] without being required to communicate about it with the developer or any other specific entity. " - You mean that, for all those years I've been using Windows programs, I've been required to communicate with some "entities"? That's funny.
>"In this freedom, it is the user's purpose that matters, not the developer's purpose" - This is actually impossible - the purpose is always defined by the programmers. And "free software" might still impose unwanted "purposes" onto you - like all the "free software" browsers on https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/ (archive). On the other hand, a nonfree software might make its purpose evident and not violate it - and will provide more actual freedom than so-called free software.. Also,
>"The freedom to run the program as you wish means that you are not forbidden or stopped from making it run" - this is easy to violate in the so-called "free software". What prevents me from making a program that can only be run on Wednesdays? Nothing.
Freedom 1
>"The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this."
>Okay, here is where we start to run into serious problems. First of all, access to the source code is absolutely not a precondition for this. People have been disassembling all kinds of software forever - for example Pokemon games, which have spawned many hacks that improve (or claim to) on these games. No source code required! On the other hand, much of the so-called "free software" is untouched except by the people who control it in the first place. If a person wanted to modify Mozilla Firefox so that it "does their computing as they wish", they would have to have enough programming skill first. Then they would have to have the patience to wade through thousands of lines of code, find whatever is bothering them, and spend time trying to fix it. And when they are done, they might notice that a new version of Firefox came out with a bunch of essential security fixes that they will now have to implement. See? It's insurmountable - Mozilla ends up controlling FF anyway. Source code, therefore, does not always provide real, personal freedom - unlike what the freetards claim. Disassembling some simpler programs might be more practical...
Freedom 2
>"The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2)."
>Windows programs are being redistributed all the time, and probably more people are helped that way than by freetardism.
Freedom 3
>"The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this."
>So here is where we come to the crux of the issue, it seems. It is the distribution of modifications, that gives real freedom, according to the freetards. But does it actually? Again, you, first of all, need the programming skill to make these modifications - skill that 99% of users don't have. Then there is the issue of your version becoming obsolete by the time you finish your changes - see Freedom 1. And of course, disassembling is still a possibility - you say it's too hard? So is programming for the vast majority of people - again, no advantage for free software to be found.
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No.10953
>>2785
Disappointing. None of them have posted this.
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No.10992
>>10924
>Steam now on top of all their previous bullshit locks you out if your OS or browser chances.
I did not understand this. Can you please explain further?
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No.10995
>>10950
>still shilling the same garbage blog
I hoped the shutdown would drive off the schizos.
>>10992
He set up 2FA, forgot about it, then blamed everyone but himself when 2FA did its job.
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No.11012
>>2785
It's a decent OS. Windows has been one since Windows 7. It's seems to have improved a little since then (I skipped the Win 8 fuckery) but most noteworthy is that it basically comes with more modern stuff included, like some drivers and other features that didn't work out of the box on Windows 7.
On the downside not only useful parts were updated but also the ever increasing bloat increased again. The whole telemetry thing worries me, you never really know what's included in that. Sometimes it's hogging all my Internet bandwith for whatever. I would attribute that more to buggy, crashing background services than to malicious spying. Most of the time you can keep killing processes until you find the one that's gone out of control and everythings fine. But it's dodgy to say the least.
I prefer to use Linux on machines on which I don't need specialized Windows Software, it's a much better OS, much more customizable and if you want it to be much less bloated.
>>2786
A little too formulaic. I prefer free software too, but those four freedoms are usually played back by GPL retards that will spend hours explaining you how the MIT license is less free than the GPL when it's the total opposite in practice where the GPL imposes awkward restrictions that will always make you do extra work because of the licensing shit while you can basically just take a piece of MIT licensed code and really do whatever you want with it. It's better to make something useful than something ideologically consistest for its own sake.
>>10953
While I would be a fool to say that Windows doesn't spy on you in one way or another, THIS particular video is a well known fake.
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No.11031
>>10950
I like my freedom to use my software as I wish. Freedom is impossible whenever I choose proprietary software.
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No.11032
>>3090
People keep complaining about the harmful shit that software is doing. Even right now in 8chan /g/ there are threads complaining about proprietary software.
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No.11464
>>2881
most games work on proton steam now
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No.11471
>>4613
You've never thrown a problem to a single linux user in your entire life
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No.11472
>>8701
Yeah my boot partition for windows corrupted and the repair software was completely incapable of doing fuck all so I just installed debian and said fuck it. That was 7 years ago
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No.11473
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No.11475
>>11473
I await with morbid glee for what Microsoft will do next
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No.11494
>>2792
memes aside you are more likely to be a kiddy diddling pedophile if you use linux. That's just a fact
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No.11570
>redpill me
It's the one and only OS that can be reasonably used for general work.
It's full of weird issues, half supported features, and confusing UX decisions, so you must quickly learn to prefer 3rd party solutions to any 1st party tool that doesn't see a lot of use and seems a bit flaky.
On the flipside, you get hardware and software support that BTFOs every other OS combined, and the whole package is unbelievably stable out of the box: you can get months of uptime on a shitty laptop without an SSD and a dual core, without ever touching anything but a couple update settings.
>inb4 muh Android is loonix
TL DR grab 10 pro for general purpose computing, if you need something very specify it's always good to know linux to set up a custom solution.
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No.11575
>>11494
> more likely to be a kiddy diddling pedophile if you use linux
I wonder what's the over-under on those numbers
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No.11577
>>11570
Windows 10 runs like complete dog shit on older hardware and idles at like 65+ degrees or more on a core duo. As for general purpose work pretty much every OS is capable of that. This isn't 1995 anymore, obscure linux distros are capable of doing basic shit effectively these days. Windows 10 has also been demonstrated to be pretty unstable at this point via it's shitty updating system and constant desire to revert user changes every update.
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No.11581
>>11577
"hardware support" doesn't mean it will run well on a toaster, if you're forced to make do with garbage hardware trimmed down linux is a far better option, it means the toaster will be recognized when plugged in and will mostly work: this is very important when you need to interface with most work-specific hardware (as they mostly were written assuming the client had windows), when you want your laptop's wifi to work, or when you don't want to cripple your GPU since Linus can't get along with Nvidia.
>muh settings reverted
Stop running retarded "cleaner" tools off the web to then complain about your OS being borked.
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No.11583
>>2785
It's shit.
T. Person who accidentally bought a tablet computer with it installed foor christmas, thinking it was a laptop.
I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option- so I may try that out and see if this shitty thing and it's shitty unresponsive 1port USB let's me unfuck it. but seriously, it's shit, and better off used in virtulization for gaming on new shitty 4kbloattexture games
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No.11584
>>2785
It's shit.
T. Person who accidentally bought a tablet computer with it installed foor christmas, thinking it was a laptop.
I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option- so I may try that out and see if this shitty thing and it's shitty unresponsive 1port USB let's me unfuck it. but seriously, it's shit, and better off used in virtulization for gaming on new shitty 4kbloattexture games
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No.11589
>>11583
>can't tell apart a tablet-laptop hybrid from a normal laptop
>can't avoid double posting as he needs to compulsively mash "New reply" when his post does not show up immediately on the page
>believes he can stop the NSA or even just data collection from a large and experienced company
You're a massive faggot with an equally massive ego.
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No.11590
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No.11600
>>11570
Anon gets it. It was fucking terrible years ago. It's finally good. But it's still Windows.
Daily personal driver is still Fedora KDE, but I finally stopped cursing at MS every day at work.
>>11577
>using lower tier intel processors
>after they got nerfed by 30%+ due to patching spectre and meltdown
Gee I wonder why it'd be slow.
>>11583
I dun get it.
Did you get a shitty ARM tablet with shitty windows? You can install other shit on Surface Pros and other windows tablets and 2-in-1s. It just might get weird because Linux distros don't do touch that well outta the box.
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No.11607
>>11584
>I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option-
How did you do that?
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No.11614
>>11607
Probably with those debloat W10 scripts, and using linux to change some .dll files into other file types
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No.11629
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No.11630
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No.11631
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No.11632
>>11630
Windows 10 also used the webcam of users without their consent or knowledge to snap a picture of them upon first install of Windows 10. I have no idea if this has been quietly removed from newer versions of 10 due to it being exposed they were doing it but that should be the biggest red flag in the world that Microsoft are not the good guys.
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No.11645
>>11629
Holy shit the windows made me a racist video is top kek
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No.11647
>>11630
>still the same ultra fake video
Anyone who could crack RSA would make millions.
You simply reposted your shitty halfchan webm without even a cursory analysis of its claims, kill yourself you inbred phoneposter.
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No.11650
>>11632
This, Windows 10 is the most secure and private OS ever made. That's why they skipped 9, because it was so much ahead of 7 and 8 that 9 isn't enough to describe it.
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No.11687
>>11647
Best part is, that video had already been posted in this thread.
>>11650
Ironic or not, that's a kek from me.
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No.11692
Remember how 'they' manage the herd...fear and distraction. Really, the NSA? Huh!
"NSA finds major security flaw in Windows 10, free fix issued"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/nsa-finds-major-security-flaw-windows-10-free-68276988
A perfect example how a vulnerability not patched, but a need immediately deployed...something serious comes and a control function needed.
Another CYA while 'they' migrate the herd...dumber you must be, yes?
"NSA Offers Guidance on Mitigating Cloud Flaws"
https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/nsa-offers-guidance-on-mitigating-cloud-flaws/d/d-id/1336871
Did you miss the rest of the story? Now you know why the NSA needed a control function in Windows 10...look into the JEDI cloud (a DoD tracking service), and vaccine mandates (i.e., nano technology). They already control the hard matrix, and will soon control the wetware. D'oh!
"Microsoft snags hotly contested $10 billion defense contract, beating out Amazon"
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/25/microsoft-wins-major-defense-cloud-contract-beating-out-amazon.html
Do you see the need for their rapid and final push to migrate the herd onto the cloud (creating their surveillance data beast) and onto Windows 10? It's about the telemetry stupid!
"JEDI Contract: The United States’ Newest Space Race?"
https://insights.dice.com/2019/10/25/jedi-contract-united-states-newest-race/
Vaccine mandates as a control delivery system? Think of it as patching wetware!
"Biomaterials smarten up with CRISPR"
https://www.sciencecodex.com/biomaterials-smarten-crispr-632344
Clearly no one understood their plan of 'everything from A to Z'. D'oh!
"Amazon Is Becoming One Of America’s Biggest Military Giants"
https://www.activistpost.com/2019/10/amazon-is-becoming-one-of-americas-biggest-military-giants.html
D'oh! Even said smart, now thinking stupid...you can't protect what you don't control. Programing complete, tipping point crossed, game over!
"Security professionals now think cloud is safer than on-premise"
https://betanews.com/2019/09/03/cloud-safer-than-on-premise/
Hmm...if a hardware flaw can be fixed (or compromised) with a software patch and administrative privileges, why doesn't this sound a deafening alarm(s) for the vulnerability of OS's (e.g., Windows 10) and their devices as a whole (e.g., IoT w/5G)? Hello Linux and security through obscurity! Oh wait, that's the interwebs favorite OS... D'oh!
"New Intel Microcodes for Windows 10 Released to Fix CPU Bugs"
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-intel-microcodes-for-windows-10-released-to-fix-cpu-bugs/
drops mic
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No.11696
>>11692
Take your meds schizo
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No.12980
>>2948
You'll cowards don't even smoke crack
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No.12991
>>8701
Use easy2boot program for pendrive and you will be able to install even 3.1 on almost any kind of machinery (dos/uefi/or shitty locked or bugged bios problem).
Also, try to fiddle with linux distros while you're at it.
>>11692
>national security agency
>security agency tring to disclose a patch
Nothing wrong though, only the mainstream media demonized the NSA. I think they are the 'necessary evil' that will purge his world of degeneracy someday. - screencap this!
>>12980
go smoke CO2
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No.13289
my main problems with w10 is that microsoft profits from your data and also the system itself is shit (ads, bad file system, mainstream apps are malware / spyware, shitty UI, poor support for customization, shitty toolchain...)
>>11696
>facts are for schizos
ok retard
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No.13322
>>2792
>Harder Volmersama! probe my asshole harder! I dont even have the slightest shit smear to hide form you! SEE EVERYTHING!
Stop being a faggot
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