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 No.2785 [View All]

Redpill me on Windows 10, /g/. Both technical and political aspects.

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 No.8704

File: 38557d7dc71a958⋯.jpg (30.4 KB,306x435,102:145,weinsteined.jpg)

>>8701

this fucking shit, seriously

>want to install windows from scratch

>who needs isos? here's a bloated tool instead!

>requires admin access because apparently downloading files is serious business

>requires 8gb on C: even when you create an usb stick or iso on another drive

>after clicking right through everything because there need to be loading screens for some reason SUDDENLY YOU GET INFORMED YOU NEED TO RUN IT VIA AN ADMIN ACCOUNT, BECAUSE APPARENTLY DOWNLOADING FILES IS SO SERIOUS BUSINESS IT DOESN'T WORK WHEN RUN AS ADMIN

>quite possibly you end up with a corrupted iso/stick ofc nothing will indicate it and only when the setup fucks itself you might start to suspect something. hope you haven't killed that old install yet or have a laptop.

>A FULL BLOWN BLOATED PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES A FULL ADMIN ACCOUNT JUST TO DOWNLOAD FILES CAN'T EVEN CHECK INTEGRITY OF THE SHIT IT DOWNLOADS

meanwhile in linux:

>download iso

>download hash

>check hash

>ok -> create stick, install.

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 No.8705

>>3662

>>4239

>>4280

>>6134

If your motherboard supports IOMMU and you have 2 GPUs including integrated GPUs you can use PCI passthrough via OVMF. Which gives you near as makes no difference performance to naively running windows.

Good guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

If you're going to try this in gentoo or arch make sure you point QEMU to the proper OVMF firmware files since the wiki isn't correct.

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 No.10617

>>2792

get a new line microshill

it's no secret on here that you glow in the dark

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 No.10619

>windows

pay for most software,subscription based, leased software,pop ups,spyware & malware if not careful,downloading from internet,no repositories, triple A games

>linux

mostly free software,no subscriptions,no pop ups on desktop,no malware, huge repositories download anything takes seconds, launch software in seconds with a simple command from shell, indie games

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 No.10620

they're both good. don't take the memes too serious.

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 No.10708

>>3090

It's like if you gave the password of your email address to every person you know. It's as if everyone could see what you're thinking 24/7.

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 No.10735

File: 6f11fab7a3e0133⋯.jpg (65.08 KB,500x628,125:157,1408747095159.jpg)

>>3090

>why install a bathroom door or curtains if you have nothing to hide

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 No.10752

File: 136c26016266688⋯.png (151.6 KB,616x725,616:725,007 - gXyCMdx.png)

>>2785

>2019 and not using windows xp

>feelsbadman.jpeg

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 No.10910

File: d55de48b844e180⋯.jpg (1.4 MB,1600x2401,1600:2401,yeji heart glasses 867.jpg)

>>2785

>political

The final sign of MS being completely merged with the government, same as Apple, Facebook and Google. If a tech company becomes too big and/or influential, they will be 'merged' (a.k.a. threatened at gun point) to become state cooperators. Basically anything you ever input in Win10 is open for review by (at least) the US government, if not all governments within the 14 eyes. Passwords, accounts, shitposts, browsing history, social connections etc. Everything. A lot of its functions are also supposed to condition people to using a centralized solution for everything in preparation for the future where everything will be traced in real time (vehicles, phones, maybe even humans themselves through implants).

>>2792

>Use it if you have nothing to hide

Nice indoctrination glowie. If you 'have nothing to hide', please go ahead and post a naked picture of you along with your phone number, address, bank account and pin. Obscurity is a basic need for humans to thrive, to be creative, to solve problems, to socialize. You can see at the example of the Chinese what becomes of a population when all privacy has vanished: A homogeneous, culturally sterile group of soulless robots that get their organs harvested at the slightest sign of dissidence.

Humans who feel 'watched' behave very differently than normal. After a while they tend to lose everything that made them an individual. They become completely numb and refuse thought, philosophy, social life, art and science in favor of blind consumerism and status projection.

Obviously this is the hell we're headed to anyway because China is the blueprint which every government aspires to be. Historians will distinguish between humanity before and after AI, because it allows governments to be omnipresent and all powerful in every aspect of our lives.

>>3339

>Our sheer numbers is our security against that sort of thing, and it's quite effective.

>I know they still have data on us, but any data they have on me is probably just robotically collected without any actual human monitoring me personally

For now, yes. AI will change that. In about 10 years AIs will become so perfect, they can literally monitor the entire world's population real time, meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according 'watch list' factor, from when a human will pick it up as soon as you become interesting enough.

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 No.10923

>>2785

>redpill me on Security Theater Clickbait, The OS

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 No.10924

>>10910

>In about 10 years AIs will become so perfect, they can literally monitor the entire world's population real time, meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according 'watch list' factor, from when a human will pick it up as soon as you become interesting enough.

They already do this with markoff chains. Literally every website now keeps track of you to make sure you aren't doing something "bad". Steam now on top of all their previous bullshit locks you out if your OS or browser chances. And it's shit, and full of false positives false negatives and solves made up problems. And any more "intelligent" method will be just as shit. Government tracking is no different, just another form of security theater.

>meaning that if you are typing something 'unfavorable' on your keyboard, it can live generate a score along your history and then put you in the according

They already have this, it's called credit agencies. Why aren't you faggots doing something about this? I haven't used one in 30 years.

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 No.10925

>when did windows defender actually become competent?

never you fucking faggot.

>hurr durr i hate spying am i fitting in?

>goes on to defend retarded security theater tech that just creates more vulns

>3. Activated it with AutoKMS

KYS

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 No.10950

>>2786

Why do people use this Freetardism "Freedoms" for anything software, when most of this is easy to argue against. This person made a good webpage explaining the errors of this.

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/freetardism.html

But if you're not willing to go to the side, here's his writing of that section:

>"The four essential freedoms A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: [1]"

>Okay, so a program has to satisfy some defined freedoms to be considered "free software". But do those freedoms actually have any relevancy to actual, practical freedom?

Freedom 0

>"The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0)."

>"The freedom to run the program [...] without being required to communicate about it with the developer or any other specific entity. " - You mean that, for all those years I've been using Windows programs, I've been required to communicate with some "entities"? That's funny.

>"In this freedom, it is the user's purpose that matters, not the developer's purpose" - This is actually impossible - the purpose is always defined by the programmers. And "free software" might still impose unwanted "purposes" onto you - like all the "free software" browsers on https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/ (archive). On the other hand, a nonfree software might make its purpose evident and not violate it - and will provide more actual freedom than so-called free software.. Also,

>"The freedom to run the program as you wish means that you are not forbidden or stopped from making it run" - this is easy to violate in the so-called "free software". What prevents me from making a program that can only be run on Wednesdays? Nothing.

Freedom 1

>"The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this."

>Okay, here is where we start to run into serious problems. First of all, access to the source code is absolutely not a precondition for this. People have been disassembling all kinds of software forever - for example Pokemon games, which have spawned many hacks that improve (or claim to) on these games. No source code required! On the other hand, much of the so-called "free software" is untouched except by the people who control it in the first place. If a person wanted to modify Mozilla Firefox so that it "does their computing as they wish", they would have to have enough programming skill first. Then they would have to have the patience to wade through thousands of lines of code, find whatever is bothering them, and spend time trying to fix it. And when they are done, they might notice that a new version of Firefox came out with a bunch of essential security fixes that they will now have to implement. See? It's insurmountable - Mozilla ends up controlling FF anyway. Source code, therefore, does not always provide real, personal freedom - unlike what the freetards claim. Disassembling some simpler programs might be more practical...

Freedom 2

>"The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2)."

>Windows programs are being redistributed all the time, and probably more people are helped that way than by freetardism.

Freedom 3

>"The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this."

>So here is where we come to the crux of the issue, it seems. It is the distribution of modifications, that gives real freedom, according to the freetards. But does it actually? Again, you, first of all, need the programming skill to make these modifications - skill that 99% of users don't have. Then there is the issue of your version becoming obsolete by the time you finish your changes - see Freedom 1. And of course, disassembling is still a possibility - you say it's too hard? So is programming for the vast majority of people - again, no advantage for free software to be found.

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 No.10953

File: 6e02ccfd2239caf⋯.webm (6.7 MB,1067x600,1067:600,Even the Ruskies know abo….webm)

>>2785

Disappointing. None of them have posted this.

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 No.10992

>>10924

>Steam now on top of all their previous bullshit locks you out if your OS or browser chances.

I did not understand this. Can you please explain further?

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 No.10995

>>10950

>still shilling the same garbage blog

I hoped the shutdown would drive off the schizos.

>>10992

He set up 2FA, forgot about it, then blamed everyone but himself when 2FA did its job.

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 No.11012

>>2785

It's a decent OS. Windows has been one since Windows 7. It's seems to have improved a little since then (I skipped the Win 8 fuckery) but most noteworthy is that it basically comes with more modern stuff included, like some drivers and other features that didn't work out of the box on Windows 7.

On the downside not only useful parts were updated but also the ever increasing bloat increased again. The whole telemetry thing worries me, you never really know what's included in that. Sometimes it's hogging all my Internet bandwith for whatever. I would attribute that more to buggy, crashing background services than to malicious spying. Most of the time you can keep killing processes until you find the one that's gone out of control and everythings fine. But it's dodgy to say the least.

I prefer to use Linux on machines on which I don't need specialized Windows Software, it's a much better OS, much more customizable and if you want it to be much less bloated.

>>2786

A little too formulaic. I prefer free software too, but those four freedoms are usually played back by GPL retards that will spend hours explaining you how the MIT license is less free than the GPL when it's the total opposite in practice where the GPL imposes awkward restrictions that will always make you do extra work because of the licensing shit while you can basically just take a piece of MIT licensed code and really do whatever you want with it. It's better to make something useful than something ideologically consistest for its own sake.

>>10953

While I would be a fool to say that Windows doesn't spy on you in one way or another, THIS particular video is a well known fake.

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 No.11031

>>10950

I like my freedom to use my software as I wish. Freedom is impossible whenever I choose proprietary software.

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 No.11032

>>3090

People keep complaining about the harmful shit that software is doing. Even right now in 8chan /g/ there are threads complaining about proprietary software.

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 No.11464

>>2881

most games work on proton steam now

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 No.11471

>>4613

You've never thrown a problem to a single linux user in your entire life

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 No.11472

>>8701

Yeah my boot partition for windows corrupted and the repair software was completely incapable of doing fuck all so I just installed debian and said fuck it. That was 7 years ago

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 No.11473

Microsoft is testing ads in WordPad in Windows 10

https://betanews.com/2020/01/21/micrsoft-ads-wordpad/

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 No.11475

>>11473

I await with morbid glee for what Microsoft will do next

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 No.11494

File: 23d1737dd09c8b2⋯.jpg (14.97 KB,500x276,125:69,a rock hard fact.jpg)

>>2792

memes aside you are more likely to be a kiddy diddling pedophile if you use linux. That's just a fact

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 No.11570

>redpill me

It's the one and only OS that can be reasonably used for general work.

It's full of weird issues, half supported features, and confusing UX decisions, so you must quickly learn to prefer 3rd party solutions to any 1st party tool that doesn't see a lot of use and seems a bit flaky.

On the flipside, you get hardware and software support that BTFOs every other OS combined, and the whole package is unbelievably stable out of the box: you can get months of uptime on a shitty laptop without an SSD and a dual core, without ever touching anything but a couple update settings.

>inb4 muh Android is loonix

TL DR grab 10 pro for general purpose computing, if you need something very specify it's always good to know linux to set up a custom solution.

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 No.11575

>>11494

> more likely to be a kiddy diddling pedophile if you use linux

I wonder what's the over-under on those numbers

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 No.11577

>>11570

Windows 10 runs like complete dog shit on older hardware and idles at like 65+ degrees or more on a core duo. As for general purpose work pretty much every OS is capable of that. This isn't 1995 anymore, obscure linux distros are capable of doing basic shit effectively these days. Windows 10 has also been demonstrated to be pretty unstable at this point via it's shitty updating system and constant desire to revert user changes every update.

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 No.11581

>>11577

"hardware support" doesn't mean it will run well on a toaster, if you're forced to make do with garbage hardware trimmed down linux is a far better option, it means the toaster will be recognized when plugged in and will mostly work: this is very important when you need to interface with most work-specific hardware (as they mostly were written assuming the client had windows), when you want your laptop's wifi to work, or when you don't want to cripple your GPU since Linus can't get along with Nvidia.

>muh settings reverted

Stop running retarded "cleaner" tools off the web to then complain about your OS being borked.

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 No.11583

>>2785

It's shit.

T. Person who accidentally bought a tablet computer with it installed foor christmas, thinking it was a laptop.

I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option- so I may try that out and see if this shitty thing and it's shitty unresponsive 1port USB let's me unfuck it. but seriously, it's shit, and better off used in virtulization for gaming on new shitty 4kbloattexture games

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 No.11584

>>2785

It's shit.

T. Person who accidentally bought a tablet computer with it installed foor christmas, thinking it was a laptop.

I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option- so I may try that out and see if this shitty thing and it's shitty unresponsive 1port USB let's me unfuck it. but seriously, it's shit, and better off used in virtulization for gaming on new shitty 4kbloattexture games

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 No.11589

>>11583

>can't tell apart a tablet-laptop hybrid from a normal laptop

>can't avoid double posting as he needs to compulsively mash "New reply" when his post does not show up immediately on the page

>believes he can stop the NSA or even just data collection from a large and experienced company

You're a massive faggot with an equally massive ego.

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 No.11590

not great not terrible

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 No.11600

>>11570

Anon gets it. It was fucking terrible years ago. It's finally good. But it's still Windows.

Daily personal driver is still Fedora KDE, but I finally stopped cursing at MS every day at work.

>>11577

>using lower tier intel processors

>after they got nerfed by 30%+ due to patching spectre and meltdown

Gee I wonder why it'd be slow.

>>11583

I dun get it.

Did you get a shitty ARM tablet with shitty windows? You can install other shit on Surface Pros and other windows tablets and 2-in-1s. It just might get weird because Linux distros don't do touch that well outta the box.

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 No.11607

>>11584

>I've (assumingly) Cockblocked the telemetry, spyshit, and have loaded it with crap to stop the NSA, but even now, I have my reservations- there's a revert option-

How did you do that?

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 No.11614

>>11607

Probably with those debloat W10 scripts, and using linux to change some .dll files into other file types

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 No.11629

File: fe889d6ce0f0a90⋯.webm (2.93 MB,424x240,53:30,Windows_Made_Me_Racist.mp….webm)

File: b7dd3e837f64783⋯.jpeg (179.83 KB,1110x1200,37:40,2020-01-09.jpeg)

File: d4366fe34d326d6⋯.png (61.26 KB,500x473,500:473,2020-01-09.png)

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 No.11630

File: a1228891c7cd46e⋯.webm (6.58 MB,854x480,427:240,Windows 10 sends screensh….webm)

File: 6e4cf4d5a12913f⋯.png (1.05 MB,1920x1080,16:9,windows 10 telemetry.png)

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 No.11631

File: e7251591d3e33b7⋯.webm (7.46 MB,640x360,16:9,Microsoft-UX-expert-talks….webm)

.

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 No.11632

>>11630

Windows 10 also used the webcam of users without their consent or knowledge to snap a picture of them upon first install of Windows 10. I have no idea if this has been quietly removed from newer versions of 10 due to it being exposed they were doing it but that should be the biggest red flag in the world that Microsoft are not the good guys.

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 No.11645

>>11629

Holy shit the windows made me a racist video is top kek

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 No.11647

>>11630

>still the same ultra fake video

Anyone who could crack RSA would make millions.

You simply reposted your shitty halfchan webm without even a cursory analysis of its claims, kill yourself you inbred phoneposter.

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 No.11650

>>11632

This, Windows 10 is the most secure and private OS ever made. That's why they skipped 9, because it was so much ahead of 7 and 8 that 9 isn't enough to describe it.

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 No.11687

>>11647

Best part is, that video had already been posted in this thread.

>>11650

Ironic or not, that's a kek from me.

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 No.11692

Remember how 'they' manage the herd...fear and distraction. Really, the NSA? Huh!

"NSA finds major security flaw in Windows 10, free fix issued"

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/nsa-finds-major-security-flaw-windows-10-free-68276988

A perfect example how a vulnerability not patched, but a need immediately deployed...something serious comes and a control function needed.

Another CYA while 'they' migrate the herd...dumber you must be, yes?

"NSA Offers Guidance on Mitigating Cloud Flaws"

https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/nsa-offers-guidance-on-mitigating-cloud-flaws/d/d-id/1336871

Did you miss the rest of the story? Now you know why the NSA needed a control function in Windows 10...look into the JEDI cloud (a DoD tracking service), and vaccine mandates (i.e., nano technology). They already control the hard matrix, and will soon control the wetware. D'oh!

"Microsoft snags hotly contested $10 billion defense contract, beating out Amazon"

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/25/microsoft-wins-major-defense-cloud-contract-beating-out-amazon.html

Do you see the need for their rapid and final push to migrate the herd onto the cloud (creating their surveillance data beast) and onto Windows 10? It's about the telemetry stupid!

"JEDI Contract: The United States’ Newest Space Race?"

https://insights.dice.com/2019/10/25/jedi-contract-united-states-newest-race/

Vaccine mandates as a control delivery system? Think of it as patching wetware!

"Biomaterials smarten up with CRISPR"

https://www.sciencecodex.com/biomaterials-smarten-crispr-632344

Clearly no one understood their plan of 'everything from A to Z'. D'oh!

"Amazon Is Becoming One Of America’s Biggest Military Giants"

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/10/amazon-is-becoming-one-of-americas-biggest-military-giants.html

D'oh! Even said smart, now thinking stupid...you can't protect what you don't control. Programing complete, tipping point crossed, game over!

"Security professionals now think cloud is safer than on-premise"

https://betanews.com/2019/09/03/cloud-safer-than-on-premise/

Hmm...if a hardware flaw can be fixed (or compromised) with a software patch and administrative privileges, why doesn't this sound a deafening alarm(s) for the vulnerability of OS's (e.g., Windows 10) and their devices as a whole (e.g., IoT w/5G)? Hello Linux and security through obscurity! Oh wait, that's the interwebs favorite OS... D'oh!

"New Intel Microcodes for Windows 10 Released to Fix CPU Bugs"

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-intel-microcodes-for-windows-10-released-to-fix-cpu-bugs/

drops mic

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 No.11696

>>11692

Take your meds schizo

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 No.12980

>>2948

You'll cowards don't even smoke crack

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 No.12991

>>8701

Use easy2boot program for pendrive and you will be able to install even 3.1 on almost any kind of machinery (dos/uefi/or shitty locked or bugged bios problem).

Also, try to fiddle with linux distros while you're at it.

>>11692

>national security agency

>security agency tring to disclose a patch

Nothing wrong though, only the mainstream media demonized the NSA. I think they are the 'necessary evil' that will purge his world of degeneracy someday. - screencap this!

>>12980

go smoke CO2

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 No.13289

my main problems with w10 is that microsoft profits from your data and also the system itself is shit (ads, bad file system, mainstream apps are malware / spyware, shitty UI, poor support for customization, shitty toolchain...)

>>11696

>facts are for schizos

ok retard

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 No.13322

>>2792

>Harder Volmersama! probe my asshole harder! I dont even have the slightest shit smear to hide form you! SEE EVERYTHING!

Stop being a faggot

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