No.12243
What do you think of the Freedesktop organization? To me they are kind of hit or miss, with excellent contributions such as the Xorg open source drivers for AMD and libraries such as libinput, and god awful projects that only worsened the absolute state of Linux such as systemd, pulseaudio and dbus. It doesn't help that the Freedesktop organization is backed by spurious companies such as jewgle and in(t)cel, so when they mandate shitty standards onto Unix-like operating systems it is bound to be applied whether you like it or not.
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No.12244
Complete and total bloated shit.
I try to avoid it when possible with openrc or sysvinit and alsa. I haven't found an alternative to dbus though.
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No.12246
>>12244
Dbus is not necessary.
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No.12252
>>12244
See >>12246
I am running OpenBSD without most of their crap, including dbus. I applied a patch to GTK+3 so it could be compiled without atspi-bridge which pulls dbus. I also btfo'd dconf which was unnecessary bloat and unrelated to the toolkit whatsoever. Things I couldn't get rid of, such as glib, harfbuzz and whatever, will be there as long as I use a non-meme browser with JS and video support. If there were a decent browser with an HTML/CSS engine written in Tk I would use that instead.
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No.12535
* Too disorganised
* Too unfocused
* No priories
* Used to cause problems
Same problem I have with Gnome: not paying for the stuff that matters: memory leaks (I want to run my desktop for 6 months without rebooting or having no ram) and shitty demo apps instead of solid stable libraries.
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