No.117221 [Last50 Posts]
>Really like anthro characters, and see the potential for stories and whatever.
>Can't find any good examples outside of Beastars and zootopia due to how much bad press and porn it's buried under.
MFW I realize that no matter how well the entire base improves, no matter if someone Thanos-snapped their fingers and the anthro/furry base was purged and made into something acceptable or actually made some nice content, the bad reputation is there to stay forever, and will never be forgiven.
Furrys will always be looked at as an example of what never to be, and any anthro characters in the future will forever be either lewded, or ignored because of the eternally negative association.
The damage has been done. Maybe this is what we deserve...
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No.117222
Oh shit I did not mean to post multiple of this thread.
My bad. Sorry
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No.117225
>>117221
>Furrys will always be looked at as an example of what never to be
Good, less fly-by-night casual fans. Better to remain in the shadows where only those truly interested can find it than to be cast into the hollow fame of popular culture where it will get the pickle rick treatment like video games and comic books did.
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No.117228
>>117221
No one cares about the fandom's "bad reputation" except for grifters/weebs who want to feel superior despite being talentless consumers or closet furries who try to impress those who ridicule them.
In the past, it definitely wasn't perfect. Nowadays, it's unironically one of the most healthy internet subcultures out there when you compare it to nazi/fedposting telegram channels.
I met a lot of furries that are very intelligent. A majority of them "made it" by working in professional industries like aerospace, medicine, software, entertainment, science, etc. I met a few of them from here. Even the uneducated ones are the nicest folk I ever met in my lifetime. Even if it's unusual to normal people, but they are willing to overlook it as most furries are actively making a positive impact in the real world.
In contrast, the fedposting communities are filled with edgy types that give bad advice to the youth by filling their heads with pessimism disguised as pragmatism. They're told not to attend college, being encouraged to waste time donating to grifters on podcasts, prepping for a doomsday scenario that will never happen, or attending rallies that ruin their lives.
You will get more projects like Beastars, and the fandom will become better overall. Work hard and be good to others so nothing will ever be impossible.
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No.117229
>>117221
Anon I'm sorry but that's silly, prejudice isn't eternal, and you should get some help exploring the scene.
>>117225
Secrit clubs are either an elitist fantasy or a complete misdiagnosis of "popular culture" rather than the commodification of hobbies/mediums. Furry's immunization against that isn't prejudice, it's the community's significantly open culture and creative self automony.
>>117228
Absolutely right
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No.117230
>>117221
Commercial SFW furry projects are stuck in a strange spot, because most of the money is in porn and OCs. Furries as a community are essentially a network of freelance artists. You get a few driven indie people every now and then, but there's a reason why the two franchises you've listed are respectively made by the biggest animation company in the west and by an autistic mangaka from Japan. Indie furry comics are easy to come across, furry games less so, furry music is a gimmick and indie furry films of respectable length and production quality are pretty much nonexistent. If I get my shit together artistically soon enough, I'm planning to draw a SFW furry comic series that I think has a lot of potential. I have a full time job, so I have no problem financing it myself
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No.117231
Ghost of a tale
Redwall
life tastes like cardboard
sly cooper
an enormous amount of webcomics.
just off the top of my head
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No.117232
>>117230
>indie furry films of respectable length and production quality are pretty much nonexistent.
It's not unfeasible with free rendering like UE4/Eevee. It's worth trying to learn the newer mediums since people are forgiving of it's flaws and you become popular since you made that first step.
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No.117233
Good. There are plenty of other normalfag fandoms you can be a part of if you want to look good or care about reputation.
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No.117238
>>117229
Furries haven't been a "secret club" since the late 80s. I don't care that people are aware of the fandom, I just don't want casuals to "become" furries because it's the hip flavor of the month. It's not an elitist fantasy to want quality fans who generally enjoy the content over an inflated quantity of wannabe trendsetter "fans". The unsavory reputation protects the fandom from deluding into a mediocre fan base of blind consumerism.
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No.117239
>>117238
I mean, the fandom is pretty open. Even if you don't like those new people, it's big enough to the point where you can stick with old peeps that share your beliefs. I think that gatekeeping it is pretty silly because everyone has to start somewhere. It's learnable and it's not meritocratic to like animal people.
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No.117240
>>117238
People aren't gonna get it until it's too late when everything is even more corperatised and sanitized.
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No.117241
3D artist and programmer checking in. If you want something bad enough then you should try and find ways to make it happen. I for one am open to contributing to something if anyone else is interested in getting something together.
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No.117244
>>117228
based and kekpilled
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No.117246
>>117239
>I think that gatekeeping it is pretty silly
You have the pedophiles, animal fuckers, and diaperfurs to thank for that.
>>117240
Hopefully I'll be long dead by then.
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No.117250
>>117241
Try to see if you can get the ball rolling first with a good foundation. Do a render or a prototype.
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No.117251
>>117246
You have a single piece of proof it's those people in particular?
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No.117263
>>117251
Are you shitting me right now? If you don't think the pedophiles and necrophiliac animal fucker 😬faggots like Kero The Wolf aren't enough to give furries a bad enough reputation to keep casuals and their children away from the fandom then you're either blandly ignoring them or you're mentally fucking 😬retarded. The proof is in the fact that every time the word furry is muttered people think "eww, you mean those people who have sex with dead animal and diddle kids".
Stop arguing like a 6 year old and get some object permanence because those disgusting sex perverts don't leave just because you refuse to look at them.
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No.117265
>>117263
>The proof is in the fact that every time the word furry is muttered people think "eww, you mean those people who have sex with dead animal and diddle kids".
No one literally thinks like this except for closeted furries, consoomer weebs, and grifting dropouts who obtain superchat money from poking low hanging fruit.
>Stop arguing like a 6 year old and get some object permanence because those disgusting sex perverts don't leave just because you refuse to look at them.
Nah, he was pretty mature about it. You, however, are socially maladjusted and tremendously dumb. If you've talked with real people as opposed to youtubers and podcasters, then you'll notice that most people don't care about irrelevant ecelebs does because it's nothing compared to the damage that Nazis have done to kids.
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No.117267
>>117265
>No one literally thinks like this except for closeted furries, consoomer weebs, and grifting dropouts who obtain superchat money from poking low hanging fruit.
I've got anecdotal evidence to the contrary, which I know is pretty weak, but do you have any kind of proof at all?
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No.117268
>>117267
>I've got anecdotal evidence to the contrary
Snarky weebs with zero enagagement on twitter do not count since they are an irrelevant minority. If the public perception of the fandom were terrible, then public would deplatform it in the same way they do with other taboo subcultures. It would be the type of label that would get people fired from their jobs.
Instead, you see the opposite happen. Journos are now praising it, IMVU bought FA, and Second Life used to promote it.
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No.117269
>>117268
>Snarky weebs with zero enagagement on twitter
Well for one they'd be a weeb and that wouldn't disprove what you'd said.
And two it's from real life, not an online interaction.
>It would be the type of label that would get people fired from their jobs.
It's funny you say that since it involved my old boss.
>Journos are now praising it, IMVU bought FA, and Second Life used to promote it.
Good, I hope that keeps up.
If we can start shutting out people like Kero instead of publicly defending him, then maybe there can eventually be a majority of people that see furshit in a positive light.
People much prefer to share a story about someone fucking roadkill to shock their friends, rather than sharing a story about someone that invented something they don't personally have any use for being used by a group they may never have any direct connection to.
It's going to take more than a 50/50 on publicity like this before that positive light shines.
I was going to post the canceled barbecue event thing, even though it was likely a hoax, because it doesn't matter as that was of course the story that got out. Instead I found like four other stories of furries publicly embarrassing themselves before I even came across it, because they're obviously the ones people want to share.
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No.117273
>>117265
>No one literally thinks like this except for closeted furries, consoomer weebs, and grifting dropouts
You're delusional if you think that coming out as a furry around non-furries doesn't make you look like a socially awkward closet case.
>who obtain superchat money from poking low hanging fruit.
Gee, I wonder why it's low hanging fruit. Almost like it's a norm to see furries in an unsavory light.
>it's nothing compared to the damage that Nazis have done to kids
Nice boogieman argument. It's 😬retarded to think that people are going to excuse modern day pedophiles and zoophiles just because the nazis existed. Furries have an extensive history of sexual misconduct (as well as a history of outright sexual deviancy) and screeching DA EBIL NATZIS DOW doesn't make it go away.
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No.117275
>>117250
I said I'm open to contributing. I'm not open to being any kind of project lead or first of anything here.
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No.117283
>>117273
<Le gasss xdDDDDDDD
>You're delusional if you think that coming out as a furry around non-furries doesn't make you look like a socially awkward closet case.
Maybe it's because I work in tech, but it's filled with eccentric types that overlook that stuff provided that you prove yourself via merit.
>Gee, I wonder why it's low hanging fruit. Almost like it's a norm to see furries in an unsavory light.
You're not the norm, you're a collective of fringe dropouts who have a laughable superiority complex from seeing an unhealthy amount of YT cringe compilations, KF threads, and superchat-funded podcasts.
>Nice boogieman argument. It's 😬😬retarded to think that people are going to excuse modern day pedophiles and zoophiles just because the nazis existed. Furries have an extensive history of sexual misconduct (as well as a history of outright sexual deviancy) and screeching DA EBIL NATZIS DOW doesn't make it go away.
You think that it's a "boogeyman" that four of them killed 70+ people in 2019? Are you being intentionally stupid?
It's also hilarious that you think that it's the only subculture filled with those types of people. They're everywhere and they're condemned. Especially in the fandom where Kero left for good. The fact that you resort to milking old issues while being dismissive of recent ones should prove that you're exaggerating it's occurence.
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No.117289
>>117283
>that overlook that stuff provided that you prove yourself via merit
So they have to overlook their normally negative view of it.
>You're not the norm
If furries weren't seen in a bad light, they wouldn't be an easy target.
All you've said is that they aren't because all the people who laugh at us don't count.
>You think that it's a "boogeyman" that four of them killed 70+ people in 2019?
A greater evil doesn't excuse the lesser.
Especially when the latter is only asking that you tell these people to get the fuck out, so you can still dox Nazi personal info or however you might be actively involving yourself in that.
At least I assume you're actively involved, since there's no reason you can't simply acknowledge both problems at the very least, instead of pretending one doesn't exist or matter.
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No.117314
>>117283
>"Le maymay"
Sorry to hear you've got ass cancer.
>You're not the norm
You're right, I'm a furry.
>killed 70+ people in 2019
Big whoop, you're just as likely to be killed by a shark (64 deaths in 2019). Hate to break it to you but there will never be 0 deaths due to racism. Ever. That doesn't excuse those crimes, but it doesn't cover up furry wrongdoings either.
>It's also hilarious that you think that it's the only subculture filled with those types of people
When did I ever say that? This thread is about furries, not every fandom in existence.
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No.117319
>>117314
>Hate to break it to you but there will never be 0 deaths due to racism.
Would love to see the peer-reviewed studies you read to come to such a strong conclusion.
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No.117328
>>117319
There has never been an era in human history where 0 people have died due to bias towards another race.
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No.117331
>>117328
Doesn’t mean there never can. Human society is a lot different than it was 2000 years ago, or even just a few hundred years ago. There was hunter-gatherer society, then slave society, then feudalism and mercantilism, and now modern-day society. In that time, attitudes towards race, gender, sexuality, religion/atheism, democracy, and more have radically changed. Given how much has changed and continued to change, it’s a bit naïve to think you can pin down any one thing such as racial prejudice as completely fixed without any sort of scientific analysis to back you up. From a purely logical standpoint, it’s also pretty irrationally pessimistic to say so.
Human individuals are products of their genetic and other inherent traits (“nature”) and their socialization and other experiences (“nurture”). Obviously socialization is something relatively flexible—it’s the primary difference between us and humans from other periods of human history, all the way back to the cavemen probably. But even if it was something genetic, we’re on the frontier of gene-editing right now. I don’t think it’d be super far out into the future for us to locate the “racism gene” and cut it out of people, annihilating racism for good.
That said, I personally believe it’s more socialization than anything else, and we won’t need gene editing to eliminate racism. But I mention it to demonstrate that we do have options, even in the seemingly most difficult cases, thanks to technology.
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No.117335
>>117289
>A greater evil doesn't excuse the lesser
>instead of pretending one doesn't exist or matter
None of this was stated or implied.
They literally talk about bad actors being condemned and people like Kero. The point is not that abuse problems in the fandom don't exist or don't matter, it's that they're addressed and not some massive, possessive problem like some people make it out to be. They specifically talk about people who hyperfocus on frivolous negative content and media on furries.
>All you've said is that they aren't because all the people who laugh at us don't count.
They say those people are mostly a specific type of person. Remember that we have people claiming massive generalizations about what "average" people think about furries. If you actually get around you see much more variety and nuance in perception of the community.
Reality is a ton of people don't know or give a fuck about furries. Many more have a "negative" perception only as deep as "fursuits kind of creep me out; furries have to wear those right?" Many have neutral or positive leaning feelings. Many deeply appreciate the work of the fandom. The properly negative perceptions tend to be highly reactionary and you could spend ages looking at what motivates different people. You can spend ages looking at all of this, because it's not an easy "it's all negative" blanket.
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No.117336
>>117319
>>117331
I appreciate the angle you're taking, but I have to go in on this.
>>117314
>>117328
>Big whoop, you're just as likely to be killed by a shark (64 deaths in 2019). Hate to break it to you but there will never be 0 deaths due to racism. Ever.
Do everyone a favor and shut up before you further embarrass us talking about mass murder like a joke. "That doesn't excuse those crimes" means less than nothing after literally diminishing them. "Well you can't make it zero" are you serious?
Their point about shootings was a matter of perspective. Transforming that into a "boogeyman" is telling of how actually think about those incidents.
I was going to hold your hand through their total argument, but I'm not going to give you an easy out to distract from this garbage.
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No.117337
Here's the PSA:
Being simplistic and reductive about the fandom, perception or otherwise, is dumb.
Asserting generalizations to speak of or tangentially refer to nuanced issues is dumb.
The fandom has issues with abusers where after exposure they sometimes still maintain a platform, but that is literally a society wide problem. There is broad intolerance for this in the fandom.
Most furry negativity is reactionary, not articulate.
Whatever you think about "protecting" the fandom through perception, there is significantly more nuance than good/bad.
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No.117347
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No.117348
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No.117350
>>117337
>The fandom has issues with abusers where after exposure they sometimes still maintain a platform, but that is literally a society wide problem. There is broad intolerance for this in the fandom.
Truth. The furry fandom is actually pretty remarkable in how vigilant it is against abusers.
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No.117370
>>117231
>life tastes like cardboard
that shit hurted :'C
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No.117439
>>117268
True. I think that most common people see furries as rather weird individuals, but they don't often identify them with sex (unless they want to piss you off).
And in the cases where people do hate furries, the most common reason is because they think they are cringy
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No.118069
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No.118072
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No.119015
>>117221
Where is this image from?
Is this mod for a game?
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No.119028
>>117283
>>Nice boogieman argument. It's 😬😬😬retarded to think that people are going to excuse modern day pedophiles and zoophiles just because the nazis existed. Furries have an extensive history of sexual misconduct (as well as a history of outright sexual deviancy) and screeching DA EBIL NATZIS DOW doesn't make it go away.
>You think that it's a "boogeyman" that four of them killed 70+ people in 2019? Are you being intentionally stupid?
IMO you made some good points but you've derailed your argument with this Nazi business. At best this is something similar to "whataboutism" and at worst this was the start of the derailment into politics in this thread. 7/10 argument
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No.119030
Furries only really care about their own personal tastes & will make enemies of anyone who doesn't share those exact tastes. Watch count becomes credibility so anyone with even minimal popufur status can have a personal army to crush anyone they disagree with.
I'm not surprised that news reporters laughed when that con was attacked by chlorine gas. You really do deserve to be hated.
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No.119032
>>119030
Are you on some kind of vendetta against the furries? Grow up.
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No.119035
Furries are rather horrible people. It's mostly rapists, rape apologists & pedophiles who belong in mental institutions/prison. No wonder Trumptards are common among furries. The fandom is a front and that "open & accepting" bullshit is a ruse.
tinyurl DOT com/ukubhgz for some harsh truth
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No.119036
>>119032
Facts don't care about your manchild pedo feelings, you waste of space. Always amazes me how pedos revel in their fetish yet have to deny every bit of it when confronted. Then again, your type are prone to lying.
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No.119037
>someone think of the fee-fees of the pedos who write muh cummies
No. Fuck your feelings.
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No.119084
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No.119399
>>119015
It's a mod of a scene from Blade Runner 2045 I think
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No.120080
>>117283
>You think that it's a "boogeyman" that four of them killed 70+ people in 2019? Are you being intentionally stupid?
The weirdos and psychos got invited and didn't even care about the art, Furry was sabotaged by Convention Leadership to boost attendance at any cost.
>>117314
>...Hate to break it to you but there will never be 0 deaths due to racism. Ever. ...
What about "Systemic Racism" versus "Regular Racism" ?
What about "Climate Change" versus "Holodomor" (Terror-Famine) ?
There are so many provably-false narratives which are converted into "talking points" and "shut the fuck up"-ism in your written words, that I can't wait for you to start harping on ""vaccine"" ""misinformation""
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No.120081
>>117439
>And in the cases where people do hate furries, the most common reason is because they think they are cringy
Funny how people choose to Nag at others "Eww! Be less Cringey!" instead of minding their own affairs and being helpful through inaction, or providing some kind of social support that is actually seen as support by the recipient of said support.
In short, lazy bums seem to love to hate on others just to create misery and apathy by destroying others who could otherwise one day surpass them.
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No.120094
> Furrys will always be looked at as an example of what never to be
> Furrys
> always
Only dumb nigtards like you believe in any of that shit lmao go cry about it some more in your basement I bet that’ll fix furry damn I’ve heard sjw’s whine less than you’re useless ass
OH AND THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU XDDDDDD
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No.120115
Guys you know how they said “you are what you eat” well I tried eating dogs because I wanna be my fursona right but I found it dog meat is illegal even at Chinese buffets so I stole the neighbors dog and ate his paw I had to knock him out first cause he kept scratching but now he won’t wake up guys what do I do
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No.120116
Iceland Furs sends its regards <3
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No.120118
This board belongs to the holy Israeli Defence Force now
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No.120119
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No.120143
I want to cum inside s o c I e t y
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