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so is book of thomas supposed to be from same guy who walked on water with jesus for a little bit?

>>125952

What's the best place to start learning astrology? Any book recommendations? A guy in the last thread recommended that I start with alchemy, but didn't suggest where I should start with that, so it didn't answer much.

Are you going to play Warcraft III: Reforged? It has native 4k support.

Hopefully the custom game UI isn't as pozzed as SC2's.

Gameplay footage

>>125970

No, I don't play videogames, made the revelation a while ago that putting effort into a virtual reality does not increase it's value but decreases yours, which is entropy, spiritual entropy, you are literally wasting time with that crap.

>>125970

>>125971

Looks fun but i fucking suck at those kind of games so i probably wont

>>125972

>waste of time

Whats the rush?

What books/sources would you guys recommend on the rites/prayers/traditions of Hellenic Paganism? Like not just mythology, but actual practices to align yourself or communicate with the gods and higher realms.

>>125975

http://www.theoi.com/Text/OrphicHymns1.html

http://www.theoi.com/Text/HomericHymns1.html

These hymns should do the trick. There are some more modern Hermetic/Thelemic sources with invocations that also work in the right hands. Learn to astral project as it will make all of this easier. I recommend completely devoting yourself to a specific deity that you feel a strong connection with and they can instruct you personally. Best of luck.

I want to become separate from everything else. How do I do this?

I know this has probably been addressed ad nauseam but I can't help but feel a little torn. Should I refrain from masturbation or should I carry on like before?

>>125984

>I know this has probably been addressed ad nauseam but I need my precious cummies because I'm a hormone slave whose willpower is being belittled by the elites so that my loosh can be siphoned

FTFY. The fact that you addressed this question having been asked a million times only shows you already know you shouldn't be doing it but you're struggling to talk yourself out of it. There are several threads in the catalog that address this issue right now too. The gist of it is that when you cum, you release a ton of vital energy. Even when you edge you release a bit. Whatever you're focusing on is where it goes. So you're sending it to some whore on the internet. Lucky her. Use energy work to draw energy from your genitals through your taint up your spine and your neck and send it to your crown. That helps a bit. Most of it will be willpower, though. Willpower is an extremely important thing to develop if you want to be anything more than a guy who sits in front of a screen for hours stroking your pee-pee because your hormones are stronger than your pathetic willpower and you saw a nipple in an imageboard catalog.

>>125989

>it all started when I signed up for that vampire thread

Kek. First thing's first: don't do stupid shit like that. LBRP if you aren't afraid of the Hebrews. IIRC Bearheart has a version that's a little less kosher. I don't know a ton about this but the most important thing is that if you read about something on the internet and you don't understand its underlying processes or you think it could go wrong, don't be an idiot. Where do you think all of the horror stories of people who don't know any better ruining their lives through occult dabblings come from? Shit like this. It's the occult equivalent of Darwinism.

Interested in summoning and I have a question about that. Most summon related stuff I see mentions that there should be a contract between you and the thing you're trying to summon and rules in it so that they don't harm you, etc.

What forces them to obey the contract? Can't they just do whatever they want? Sorry if stupid question

>>125950

Here is the key:

You are under no pressure.

>>125970

There's a cooler game out there to be played.

>>125972

<gpj.aggin ym <

>>125973

Time is money. Buy gold. We are watching.

>>125981

Kill your Self and every geist around you. Metaphorically speaking of course.

>>125975

Say my name and I'm there.

>>125984

Stop giving your fucks away to everyone who mentions your dicklette, slave. We've all got pickles, you really think we care what you do with yours?

This post has been Fnordified.

>>125991

Things that don't obey the rules they agreed to play by get arrested by the ghost police.

Is there a fringe discord?

>>125998

Fringebay has one. It's a cocksucking circlejerk. But if that is your thing… they have a link on the top left side menu.

Can someone explain the difference between the principle of polarity and the principle of gender? I've always had trouble distinguishing these two.

Reposting my question from the previous thread.

>>125950

is there a /fringe/ iirc group? i know there used to be one im trying to find my way back

>>126003

Opposites rest on center, and, a male and a female make a child?

>>126052

Maybe you shouldn't have killed all those spiders then you wouldn't have ghost spiders haunting you. Spiders just want to eat bugs and you murdered them for it. You're a monster and deserve everything you get.

Is there a minimum age for practicing magick? I'm 22 and I want to know what's age appropriate. Should I start practicing rituals or just focus on meditating for now?

>>126019

>/fringe/ if I recall correctly group

>>126073

Why on earth would there be an age limit? Have you read any of the books yet? Go read a book.

I've read countless posts about alchemy, duality, le demiruge, the cycles of the ages on Earth, I've heard about rumors of esotetic sciences being hidden from us, I have heard of the prophecies regarding the Philosopher's stone, I have heard theories regarding transcendence of duality, I've heard of ancient advanced civs, and of the more obvious conspiracies. What I'm gettin at is, I've heard of a lot of shit, and the only things I've listed above that I find semi believeable is duality. I say this because I can quantify duality, I can apply it to many situations, in fact I've developed my own philosophy regarding it, I call it the "Universal Principle of Omnipresent Duality". I digress though. The point of this post is to ask for proof. No I don't mean material proof, I've listened to Rudolf Steiner, and I know that materialism leads to blindness. I mean, how can I scientifically analyze /fringe/ content? At this rate I feel like I'm getting nowhere, sifting through baseless claims like back when I was a tinfoiling illuminati theorist, gobbeling everything up, regardless of proof. I need history, documentation, analysis, quantification. Every other time I ask for help I receive info from "mystics" who base their claims on blind faith alone, spewing baseless claims, seemingly with the intent of inflating their egos. Could you guys please help me out on this? I want to bring some merit to the titles of "Sage" or "Warlock"

>>126090

You sound like an armchair occultist. Have you ever done anything practical with all this knowledge? Also have you ever looked into Project Stargate (including before it was controlled by the CIA), the Monroe Institute, the Global Consciousness Project, Rupert Sheldrake, the Windbridge Institute, any of those kinds of places or people?

Do you employ rituals such as the Banishing Ritual Of The Pentagram/Hexagram?

All I really know about banishing rituals is that they create a sort of vacuum in the ritual space, void of any influence aside from the Will of the Magician, so that workings are unaffected by potentially interfering energies.

But I rarely see to see these rituals mentioned outside of GD or Thelemic based paradigms.

And moreover I have no real idea what invoking rituals really accomplish.

I read a post recently about the cycle of IAO, and that the Hexagram ritual establishes it within the psyche. But what practical purpose would this serve magically?

Basically, I would like Fringe's insights and thoughts about these rituals. I would appreciate it a lot.

>>126083

I ask because I know that Jews don't allow Kabbalah practice until age 40. I was just wondering if there are certain branches that should wait until the practicioner is more experienced and grounded.

>>126094

I've been trying to utilise the information, but at the I moment I dont have the equipment for alchemy. I do lots of meditation and brainstorming, and eventually I'd like to master AP and thoughtforms. Everything else is difficult when I'm met with wish wash explenations. I'll look into the things you mentioned. How does one discern from CIA fiction from fact?

>>126116

>How does one discern from CIA fiction from fact?

Listen to your heart. Not even joking. An open third eye may help for that..

Do the proven exercises and do not bother too much with theory…for there is a lot of disinformation and bullshit going about. Meditate, read the good books and think for yourself. AP and opening your third eye should be the primary objectives. Most other crap is just distraction. Everything just boils down to using your mind and energy. If you open your third eye and learn to think for yourself and also to astral travel, you will find out for yourself. Finding out for yourself is the only way to be protected from bullshit and disinfo. Just doing the work, actually doing the work. Forget about politics, blaming the jews, left vs right, cia, illuminati etc. This shit will entangle you forever in hell and lies and keep you distracted from doing the actual work.

>>126118

Alright anon. I have to ask though, which books are you talking about? I'm lost in terms of being able to find info/sources. I intend to use all of this information to fight the good fight.

>>126119

I wonder what you mean by the "good fight"? In Samsara, this matrix of the demiurge everything goes in cycles. There are no real fights to fight, only games to play. The only real good fight you can fight is the quest for enlightenment or Gnosis. This is what The Alchemy and actual occultism really is about. This is the great work. With enlightenment comes immortality and freedom of the spirit. All you need to do for this is to work on yourself. Everything else is a distraction and ultimately leads to death. (that doesn't mean you can't have fun anymore or you shouldn't educate yourself anymore. It only means keep the goal in your mind and don't get lost.) As for books, Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon, Arcane Formulas by Atkinson, Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, Introduction to Magic+TheHermetic Tradition+The Doctrine of Awakening by Julius Evola. You wanna get the necessary theory but also the exercises to get you going. Feel free to read much more and see if something resonates with you. Falun Gong stuff is good too. Meditate a lot. Don't get entangled in human dramas, but most important go your own way.

>>126120

I forgot to add the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu which is considered the ultimate occult book and all that you need, but only if you are wise enough to actually understand it. Still a must read even if you don't

Any thoughts on my idea of using brute force to bend the universe to my liking? I mean using just will and less neat tricks and wiggling thru counter-current

>>126052

Look into astral spiders.

>>126120

I deem the good fight to be enlightening others. I wish for a day when we could break free from the cycles.

Thank you for the list there, it helps a lot.

>>126121

I wonder if English translations honor the original text.

>>126126

You can try the Monroe Trilogy too.

>>126116

>How does one discern from CIA fiction from fact?

I suppose I forget sometimes that this is the fucking feds we're talking about, but a lot of the concepts surrounding things they did during Project Stargate are translatable to things other scientific institutes did. For example, concerning the idea of consciousness not being physical, or at least having non-physical elements to it, during Stargate, as one example, they had a blind woman read off the serial number of an in-orbit satellite through remote viewing. Discerning fact from fiction here, it's useful to know that other people have done similar things. The Monroe Institute have had people in isolation booths use astral projection to send each other messages non-physically. This can also be verified if you learn to do either thing and set up tests yourself, maybe with a deck of playing cards or some dice or something. So while you are most likely right that the CIA (and the other places like the airforce) are probably putting hints of bullshit into their declassified documents, there are particular concepts you can verify. Aside from that, it's also useful to look for real-life applications that took place. There was an American plane (or something) that crashed in Zaire, and Jimmy Carter actually publicly admitted that they used a psychic to find it (probably someone in the remote viewing program, I don't remember).

How do I open my third eye?

>>126128

That's some neato info. I've always been fascinated by remote viewing, it has so many applications it's almost dangerous.

>>126127

>monroe trilogy

Will read

Should I strive to keep my mind as quiet as possible and away from idle thoughts and fantasies even when not doing anything important?

>>126161

Yes. Read Mouravieff's Gnosis vol. 1 for more information.

https://mega.nz/#!4VIQmSKC!4fJyMqKwq_Njcqf_ggMu8AdqIOFrYcM_8x7yGDgFwxQ

Does anyone have a copy of Archidoxes of magic?

>>126180

> boy whose name starts with the letter K and last name ends with R

That's me.

Don't get too alphabetical here. Names are nigh meaningless for those who understand reality. Focus instead on a person's personality and actions.

>>126182

Lol, falling for the oldest phishing scam in the book. I know you guys are desperate, but come on.

>>126185

I'm playing along the same way we all are. It's lunacy to believe in gods, magic, or most of the other stuff here. We just play pretend.

>>126186

Your logic is trash. Are you a woman or something?

>>126186

Even if made as an attempt to troll this post holds some truth that I bet almost nobody on fringe will get.

>>126180

3D pig disgusting.

>>126198

>nobody on fringe will get.

I will prove in one word I get it:

Maya.

>>126180

Big if true.

>>126154

Yeah just pick a physical book (preferably a very good one, the bible is okay, so would be The Kybalion) and keep it with you and then center your thought on the book continuously, obsessively, yearning for it to be imprinted fully in the mind. Regularly take out the book, feel it, and think about it striving to see it objectively in the mind. By doing this you will in the struggle attain tremendous growth of intelligence and discover to you secrets of reality. Note: don't actually try to read the book in the normal way, you can keep the book closed, and only open it to check that your impressions you're getting in your mind objectively line up with the actual text in there. Once you break the subjectivity barrier and get a direct perception, something you will be able to confirm yourself, you will have entered into a new stage of consciousness in which the inner-nature and secrets of all things will be revealed to you. The rocks, the trees, people, etc. will all become as an open book for you to read.

Some advice also: you must sacrifice all the other desires that create too many stirrings and too much noise in the mind, so all else but the object to which your mind is bent is filtered out, and so you will learn in this process how to manage properly what constitutes the vital energy but more properly or plainly stated (as by the Rosicrucians for example and many on this site) "desire", "emotion", "desire power", "desire energy", etc. and also more vaguely called "chi", "prana", "loosh", etc.

I can say much more but I'll leave you to the work and just wish to impress upon you that in knowing the one you will know the all. (as in the famous axiom)

>>126154

Besides what I've told you, you should also read what is recommended here: http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/fringe/faq.html

I have personally read all of it. Yes, even Personal Power which is 1,500 pages I got through it in a very short while in fact. However long ago when I started on this path I was very much retarded and struggled to even read a couple pages of a short book nowadays however I have gained such a finesse and strength of mind that I can systematically and efficiently absorb tremendous volumes of knowledge.

Knowing what I know now I would do things differently as my development was unbalanced and consequently inefficient and painful in various ways but nobody but my own self was ever fit to be my master. It is said by one of the ancient greek philosophers (and also Julius Evola) however that most men are better off to find a master for the reason that they are unfit to be their own master. Most everyone here on /fringe/ I tend to think however is of that special caliber of men who have inner-strength and self-direction that they can study and persevere through all the trials of initiation without a man.

You will know for yourself what kind of man you are and whether you are worthy of the mysteries if you know nothing can discourage you from the relentless pursuit of truth and self-development.

>>126073

There is no age limit as you can be 60 years old and completely unfit to start certain practices and you could also be a mere teenager and yet vastly more mature, developed, and gifted than the average.

Maturity comes through practice, discipline, and long cultivation. If you were to say, skip ahead through the stages in Initiation Into Hermetics, the most probable outcome would be failure to actually accomplish anything (and so no harm) but in some cases you could very well lead yourself into delusion or troubles if by some misfortune you do acquire the right conditions to perform a working according to universal law while not having full knowledge of said laws.

See also: The section in Practice of Magical Evocation where Franz Bardon talks about the difference between a sorcerer and a magician. ProTip: Don't be the sorcerer.

If you are impatient this will destroy you. Indeed the very first stage in Initiation Into Hermetics is to take a view of your characteristics (vices/virtues) and start gaining conscious control over them and weeding out vices, this is a work that you then continue even as you advance to the later stages (all build on each other, see also Bardon Companion by Rawn Clark).

For me I have infinite patience given to me by the crystal clear realization that the path is absolutely worthy and beautiful, that the work I am engaged in is the only kind a man would aspire to if he knew better, and I feel a strong sense of gratitude in fact to all humans who pursue frivolities of all sorts (with that chapter in Karma Yoga by Swami Vivekananda about "each is great in his own place" still in mind) because out of their toil and mental waste and frivolity comes this structured reality which creates the perfect setting for me to attain perfection in. To all who desire anything less than god; though you are fools, thank you for being part of the great cosmic drama playing the roles that you do.

>>125967

The Rosicrucian brotherhood will pretty much never shut up about astrology. They are a good place to look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aij0dD54sfg

Max Heindel is someone you might want to look into.

Biggest proponent of astrology I've ever encountered. The subject personally doesn't interest me but I inevitably end up being exposed to various information about it because of this site and the discussions and because I run into it while my focus is on other aspects of the occult.

>>125981

No you don't. That's Satan or Demiurge tier.

>>125984

What is more important than the actual physical act of masturbation is control over the thoughts that are fueled by lust.

It took me a long time to figure out for myself what the secret behind this matter of continence is about. I've read many of the threads, did my own experiments, and never arrived at any conclusions until much more recently when after much struggle I finally came to understand the nature of vital energy, its control, and what it is in essence.

In short; you have a certain supply of vitality that enters into you continuously in connection with the desire matrix of your soul. Lust is one of the many outlets in which this raw "akashic energy" condenses and becomes refined. Knowing this, you should be aware of and do the following:

Firstly, the sexual impulse is worthy of cultivation and expression in connection with the highest ideals of marriage and generation. In this case one should think very much of ones wife, feel the greatest love and desire, and bring it to an intensity that bends the whole universe in favor of the expression of the ideal.

Secondly, you will not conquer it by suppression, and the same energy that goes into lust may just will find its expression in angst, sorrow, and other undesirable outlets. It is not lust alone that you want to gain control.

How you will gain control is by awareness and self-observation. Be mindful of every thing you feel. In this way you may well enter into the anhedonic stage pretty quickly, becoming empty of desire, because you stop the automatic flow of it into any outlets by simply letting it all burn out without contributing to it any further. Your mind then will become empty in degree of your ability to let go and let all of it burn out in you, incurring no more karma (additional desires).

Then you should proceed to active stage, being involved in the process of desire, learning to desire certain things and to extinguish those desires, and to center the mind around specific desires for extended periods of time, and feeling the flow of thoughts and gradually becoming more and more active on a conscious level on the higher planes of the astral.

At some point you will gain such a control and awareness about what the life flowing through you, the vital power, that you will be very capable to rebuild yourself along new and better lines and to not waste your energy.

See also: Light on the Path ( https://www.theosophical.org/files/resources/books/LightonthePath/LOTP.pdf can also be found in audiobook form on youtube ), the Principle of Polarity (I'm talking about the chapter in The Kybalion), and consider the words in the Bible that speak about losing ones life and becoming dead to the world in order to gain the eternal life (at some point in your development you will understand exactly what this message of Christ).

>>126228

Oh also forgot to see Personal Magnetism by Theron Q. Dumont and Advanced Course in Personal Magnetism by the same author and also William Walker Atkinson's book on Vril.

Personal Magnetism in particular, after having read it carefully, was key in making me realize, understand, and gain control of vital power.

>>126090

I have done the same as well. There is a tremendous mass of conspiracies, histories, and claims I am familiar with and can't or at least don't bother to verify.

My own approach is simply to look to the essence of things and forget about the wrappings and to look to concepts and things eternal and universal. To extract what is useful and relevant and leave the rest.

However that said, matters such as the alien phenomena, conspiracies, etc. although I come to understand them there is some part of me that still yearns to know the truth of specific cases in which these have played out in our own reality or timeline. There is a part of me that wants to actually know whether Jesus walked the Earth, whether a physical spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin has arrived, whether Hitler died in his bunker or lived his life out in Argentina, whether a painting of Queen Elizabeth I is actually accurate to how she appeared in person, etc.

To this end there are a variety of mundane methods that will help you get some approximation of the truth that you are no doubt familiar with already. However though you might build a strong case for this or that story or hypothesis carefully and systematically and through long efforts it will be tedious and there will still remain so much more.

To actually know the history of an object, person, nation, or anything else you will have to just learn how to hold the thing contemplated in mind and then to bring in carefully impressions of its past unmixed with the various perceptual distortions that usually arise in connection with this process. This requires great purity of mind and self-control, learning to recognize the origin of every single impression that enters into your mind and to untangle and trace them, and also will as a consequent lead to you understanding dreams too. You will need great faith and persistence and an intense love of god especially in connection with his omniscience.

Here is some recommended reading: http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1907psychomancy.pdf

See also Collin Wilson "The Occult", Lobsang Rampa's books which btw /fringe/ read and researched in its earliest days and they used to be in the library but were removed later (you can treat it like Frabato, whether it's a big story he's making up or not, the powers he describes are accurate and the story gives clues and examples of their use), and look into the case of Peter Hurkos ( a lot of the stuff Hurkos says is bullshit on the level of what that other famous Dutchman Wim Hof says, both of them are clueless about the nature and origins of their powers and bad at teaching about it, but if you read it and you know better you'll see what's really going on ).

Oh btw The Philosopher's Stone is not a physical stone and I don't know what "prophecies" you would hear about it. The metals mentioned in alchemical texts aren't physical metals and if you know what salt, mercury, and sulphur for example actually mean then the texts are no longer gibberish but make actual and clear sense. The alchemists were mentalists and writing about mental laws, mental transmutation, etc. That isn't to say they couldn't transmute substances, produce ever-burning lamps, etc. but you're not going to do it the way of chemistry. If you want to get some understanding concerning "occult properties" of physical substances you may wish to look into Pascal Beverly Randolph, Franz Bardon, Wilhelm Reich, and more importantly actually develop the faculties required to observe said properties or else get the specialized equipment that can help (in that case look into Walter J. Kilner and branch out from there in your investigations).

>>126230

Forgot also to say that… concerning matters which require certain forms of perception uncommon to the masses of people in this present age, you will only be able to really communicate intelligently with people who share the same faculties in active expression, and also that although you will be able to come to know through direct perception (gnosis) the truth about anything, in order to be taken as an authority by other people you will have to find ways to prove/verify (using the mundane methods) what you already know by direct means (accessing the akashic records etc.).

Some people will start to believe everything you say, or at least pay more attention, when you have been proven right about certain things already and even more so when you do this consistently. However know this; that whoever believes you on authority alone, will themselves never know truth. One should believe nothing on authority and instead endeavor to discover for themselves the actual truth. Failing that they should learn to be at peace realizing that there is endless trivia one shall never know or experience, but also be happy that at least the principles (that which is important) can be known.

In the Bible it says that every hair on our heads are numbered. Sometimes I fear god because his power, his omniscience, etc. seems like a burden. This is a wrong and much too limited view of god of course but it's one of those silly feelings I have sometimes.

Speaking of numbering, through the cultivation of rapid perception, you can taken in all manner of details of a scene at a glance, and even be able to do such things as report on the exact number of hairs on a person's head if you really want to develop yourself to that degree. Some people who have developed this skill use it to plan out robberies, heh. They have someone walk through or nearby the area they want to rob and they in a glance take in every detail and then later on they make a good plan.

If one cares to do it, /fringe/ adepts can accomplish with ease so many things that other men apparently yearn for but never attain, such as health, wealth, love, and influence. I myself am particularly fond of knowledge and much if not all of the activity of my life is bent towards that end. I am alike to King Solomon.

>>126161

>Should I strive to keep my mind as quiet as possible and away from idle thoughts and fantasies even when not doing anything important?

In those situations I prefer to be in a receptive state and to tune into various centers of thought on a whim. It is also a good time for telepathic communication too. I like especially to be open to whatever wants to come through that I might have been ignoring by being too focused on other things. Also, it is when you are "not doing anything", that many subconscious thought processes that have completed themselves can bring their reports to your conscious mind for you, and you can get insights and useful impressions concerning the things that stir you.

>>126141

If you want to do it efficiently then through biofeedback and meditation. See Project Gateway.

>>126128

>they had a blind woman read off the serial number of an in-orbit satellite through remote viewing.

Questions for you:

1. Did this serial number exceed 10 digits?

2. Did Project Stargate take place before or after Project Gateway?

Some material you and others might want to read:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/psi/index.htm

(Specifically …. http://www.sacred-texts.com/psi/esp/index.htm and http://www.sacred-texts.com/psi/mrad/index.htm and http://www.sacred-texts.com/psi/esp/index.htm)

Upton Sinclair I especially like his work.

>>126227

Yes I do. I took an interest in all of this stuff because I still believe that my dream will come true. I might have zero success when it comes to the supernatural, but if reincarnation exists I was surely thinking the exact same thoughts I'm thinking of right now in every single lifetime.

What are your top meditation tracks?

>>126256

It is possible, but I don't know anyone who's all the way there. I'm on the way, though.

Basically walk towards your fears (relationships, work, family…).

>>126163

>>126232

Thanks.

I usually have a lot of trouble quieting my mind.

>>126257

I am no coward. I am berserk with pain and limited by exhaustion. I experience the division of my mind as intensely as though I were trying to set myself on fire or cut off a limb. I cannot make my mind do anything substantial for long. If I fight it directly, and force myself to study through the mental anguish, I'm laid out for weeks. That is my abridged life story. I use this pain to measure the truth of esoteric trash as I attempt to escape it.

I've skipped to the chapter about The Way. Mouravieff dropped the iron filing model. He constructs a B cage that he expands throughout his mind.

This is new. I'd never considered training my mind directly to my soul. I'd attempted a build up of sorts and expanding, but not a soul. He's tied soul with presence which I've been experimenting with. Doing rather than observing the lower do everything. Huh, maybe. Train everything agreeable to this presence/soul/B then watch the fireworks when I attempt to train my other half.

His other writing is very familiar, too. He talks of presence. The General Law. It's weird how I know what these things are through my own experience. It's a shame he seems to have gone insane. Perhaps he was successful in resolving his inspiring pain and The General Law took him. It seems to have happened to all my teachers on The Way. They forget the demon is real and super intelligent and will adapt to their B cage.

>>126154

Image streaming.

>>126224

thank you for your insight. also that link is broken, is that the list containing all the fringe library books?

Im having trouble following this guide for making a stone:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/19172632/How-to-make-the-Philosopher-s-Stone-from-Urine-Dry-Path

I've done all of the prep work and am preparing to seal it but Im confused on what a B.M. is. I thought it meant Blind Alembic and it might but I still want clarification.

>>126334

Tulpas are just people without bodies, think of them as souls. Your intent brings them to life and it can be described as talking to yourself from an outsiders perspective.

I don't know much about golems but I know homonculi are a thing. Try to focus on astral projection if you want to interact with magical lifeforms, such as with gnomes or dryads.

>>126289 Maybe if you develop enough psychic potential. Eventually, as I've heard, you can become godly as you ascend but by then, you'll have lost the part of you that is "you" but not "I".

>>126090

Maybe this is a bad way to get engaged into magic but it worked for me so maybe it'll work for you. If you want to learn to understand alchemy in specific, practice precursors to alchemy, like brewing alcohol, growing mushrooms or plain chemistry. Any process in which you break a material down and transform it into another. Even cooking (higher end) can serve well as a precursor. Develop better morals if you feel like a shit person, because you WILL need pure morals to work the Great art or its secrets will never be divulged to you.

>>126343

This is bullshit alchemy. I'm very sorry that you take this seriously.

>>126346

I've read through Real Alchemy so I have a grasp on the mechanics and the bs seems pretty similar to that. Clarification on the difference?

>>126343

Oh that bullshit. Isn't that the Aquarius stuff? That dude killed himself trying to make a philosopher's stone by thinking the alchemists were referring to actual metals and not using the metals to symbolize different parts of the triune nature of reality and so on. Alchemical texts actually make perfect sense as soon as you realize what they are actually referring to and it's not physical metals.

That isn't to stay that alchemists can't transmute actual physical metals but it's done in a mental way and there is a required development beforehand so people can actually see and manipulate the etheric parts of objects.

For real alchemy a starting place to look would be Pascal Beverly Randolph but even his texts won't be useful except to a few persons who are already advanced enough to use it. If you're not advanced enough then go do IIH basics and find books that teach you material that helps you with accomplishing the stages.

Is there a biofeedback thread up and if there isn't one can someone create one? Ever since reading the Project Gateway notes my interest in biofeeback (which I already knew about from wetware deepnet stuff) became so much more intense and it has become my quest in life now to make contact with a biofeedback practitioner or get equipment myself somehow and begin my own experiments with it. I am even willing to invest a significant amount of money into this such is the potential I see in the matter.

I want to drop a little truth bomb here that I can say with absolute certainty is 100% true.

I know a certain someone who worked on the avro arrow. He is 72 years old.

His father before him, probably would be at least hundred years old if alive still, worked on a saucer craft.

Canada has built a functional saucercraft that long ago that could fly around. I asked WHY, when the avro arrow has been largely declassified, the plans for this saucercraft haven't also been. From what I was told IN PERSON the report said it could fly x high and y fast and such BUT it was all very understated and my contact has seen it operating and achieving much more than xy.

I am sorry I am not giving names here as I am not right now but if anyone wishes to make any further inquiry about this reply to my post and I may consider if it's worth it for me to release any further details.

I know for a FACT that Canadian engineers have built and operated their own saucercraft. They are human made. I can't say whether any aliens are involved at all in the matter, whether by channeling the information from supposed alien contacts, having salvaged and reverse-engineered an alien craft, or anything else. As far as I know aliens aren't involved at all.

Next time you see a saucercraft flying around know that it probably is human made. We've had them now for a long time and I wish the fucking airforce would just give to the public more information about them so as to clear up some of the mystery concerning these craft.

Can someone please provide me with some newbie material to learn magick?

I am specifically interested in the magick that templars use and egyptian magick as well…

>>126369

Feel free to look in our little library

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jWLOL936w_Zw0Zi34rarK4R3IfTr_UcP

>>126369

All magick works upon the same universal principles. Templar or Egyptian magick are just styles. I hope you know that.

>>126373

i get that, i am just interested in those in particular

For the past week or so, every time I close my eyes, I get pretty vivid imagery. Not just hypnagogic visuals, but very surreal (and sometimes disturbing) scenes, faces, objects, etc.

It's basically like a mini-dream every time I keep my eyes closed, but while wide awake.

What is this, and why is it happening? I'd assume it has to do with the 3rd eye, but I haven't really been doing anything different in my day-to-day routine.

And my actual dreams have been much more vivid lately, and visiting dream settings/scenarios I've never had before. Usually I just kinda rotate between familiar settings.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any insight.

>>126385

What country do you live in?

>>126386

Hmm? USA, East Coast. But why?

How to into astral projection?

>>126391

Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce.

It's in the mega library

Where is that recent post about how to be a skilled socialite you need to "have something to say?" Has synchronistic significance to me, now I can't find it. I tried the search feature.

Any good book suggestions that speak plainly about the metaphysical /numinous/etc? E.G. Sri Ramana Maharshi's books about self-inquiry.

I attained one of my most important mystical insights by reading plainly worded text that was pointing to the absence of a self (i.e. the illusory nature of the false self) by basically saying: "Search for the searcher, and you'll see that it isn't there - there is only searching."

An experience of a vast sense of bottomless enormity behind my sense of "I"/"Me"/"Myself". It was fleeting, and yet stuck with me - and I can't unsee it…. if that makes any sense…

I seem to get more out of this type of direct pointing to spiritual phenomena than flowery (although beautiful) texts like the Upanishads.

Would very much appreciate any suggestions.

Can anyone recommend or post some good (translated) Shinto books? Couldn't find anything in the libraries about Shintoism.

>>126410

I was thinking of this in case anyone cares >>126112

So uh is there a world where magical shit is going on all the time

>>126417

You're dumb. The number of experiences where you've projected and taken for granted "The Self" is astronomical. Thus looking at yourself when not taking for granted this sense of self you've cultivated your entire fucking life would create a sense of "lack of sense of self-not-taken-for-granted" which would be experienced as a bottomlessness due to the incredible quantity of past experiences you'd have to digest for the full "self but not taken for granted" self.

Do you understand? It's pretty straightforward honestly.

>>126344

Couldn't I just will that I have my ego again, and experience it as such? Or would that negate my godliness? I guess if my existence were so supreme that I wouldn't care about what's in that silly image any more, that'd be okay too.

So there is full moon today, what do you plan on doing?

>>126467

Getting manic

>>126417

The modern concept of buddhism is plainly false. Rejecting the searcher is equivalent to rejecting reality, there can't be made such a claim without being self-negated. Rather, if you break the body down into it's subtle parts, you'll very quickly see that there are levels of the self that can be negated. It's only through via negativa that you can get down to the subtlest of bodies, and at which point you will see that the soul is charioteer. No matter your personal bias you will see that the ultimate self is that which permeates all existence. If you were to truly understand that concept, you will see that there are levels to this body, and each body is representative of another that is compounded from the first to the last. That is to say, there is a difference between the soul and the spirit.

Are there any limitations in what you can accomplish with Sigil magic?

What is the main difference in relationship to God between the spirit and the soul?

There are texts where things like the holy spirit is mentioned above the father or his son. Yet I don't think I've heard of the soul of god per se, but the spirit of god is right in the first chapter of genesis.

I've been following Robert Bruce's Energy Work book for the past month daily, and I noticed one effect that's happened a few times now that isn't mentioned anywhere in the book. Sometimes when I focus on the energy in my navel chakra, or accumulate energy into my lower dantien, I'll start to "spin" mentally, strong enough that it physically feels dizzying but also very good. It's happened maybe 3 times so far and results in almost overwhelming sense of bliss, so much so that I've been hoping it happens during each session. My eyes are always closed during meditations, not sure if that is influencing this phenomenon or not but I feel it's worth mentioning here.

What's exactly happening? Is energy moving upward to the higher energy storage centers and chakras?

What's the deal with chakra incantations and mudras? Where do they come from, are they at all dangerous, what do they do exactly, and where do I find more information?

>>126515

Are you sure you didn't mean to post this on /christian/?

Feeling groovy?

>>126517

Masculization of the brain. Your spacial awareness/sense should improve as well, and even raw calculation power.

Any good books about the law of attraction? I'm in a bind and I need to attract money and wealth, or is there a better way?

>>126524

Sounds great. This will no doubt go well with my physical training as well. Thanks anon.

>>126518

yer right

>>126534

Not my type but nice teats.

>>126536

I've done something similar to this. I used to experience all sorts of intense feelings and memories around people and objects. It was uncontrollable. It was normal for me to live like that internally while maintaining the appearance of complete calmness. I found a similar technique and immediately recognized its value to my life.

The love part is different. Rather then trying to ignore, I sat there replaying all my old memories, chasing them, in greatest possible detail, until I stopped feeling anything about them. I did it as the memories sprang to mind from whatever I was doing. Or as I identified flawed thinking and emotional reaction or non-reactions.

Then I went on chasing these memories for other reasons. Ultimately, I find this technique is only valuable as far as memories and emotions insert themselves into my thinking or prevent certain thoughts. Some people try to make it some path to ascension, but it's just memories in a certain part of the brain that couldn't be handled at the time, either through damage or being undeveloped. It is very important, and everybody should understand this function of their mind, but it's not the end.

Can't I just make my own path based off of my own notes and interpretations? I can't connect to any existing path and feel like I don't truly want to do such a thing.

>>126538

Yes, in fact that's the whole point. That's how all the great masters did it. You seem already pretty advanced thanks to this insight alone, keep it up

>>126536

I do this regularly but there seems to be a neverending stream of feeling and I only get temporary relief from the uncomfortable ones.

This video describes the process very clearly and is worht the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVShM00qQ80

>>126541

Teal isn't rigorous in her thinking. These are what I used.

http://tromhelp.com/Books1/TheResolutionofMind6x9.pdf

http://tromhelp.com/Books1/06TROMTherapyManual6x9.pdf

Going beyond this malfunctioning emotional mind, when it no longer rules the entire mind, is building the capacity for analysis without emotional interference. The hyperactive mind retards the development of the others. This means actively applying the scientific method to everything and developing mechanical skill. In other words, mastering DotA 2.

>>126536

>>126537

>>126541

You're just increasing white matter and generalizing your blood flow as well as brain usage fuckers. Grey matter is where it's at fags.

Or feminize your brain more for all I care.

>>126562

Maybe the love method does produce weird results. Mine is purely mechanical. The memories impose upon the conscious mind. After observing them as I've described or as the books describe, they become ordinary memories. >>126547

It is impossible to fight them if that's what you're saying. To 'win' this fight against your own mind is to kill yourself. That's why these techniques were developed in the first place. If you naively push and push, you only become more exhausted to the point of becoming suicidal. If you stop and observe them, they feel bad then vanish, like magic.

Can anyone explain to me why the druids find the Stonehenge significant? I don't really see why it's important.

think i made a magic wand by accident. How do I use it?

>>126586

how should we know what to do with it? you made it.

What is this resistance I feel in my chest?

>>126586

A magic wand is made by using materials that are good fluid condensers (e.g. willow wood) and then concentrating on the wand and regarding it mentally as an absolute extension of your will such that anyone who takes up the wand will have their command realized by its use. With such a magical wand it is important it doesn't fall into the wrong hands since you bear the karma of what they do with it.

So you did this by accident somehow?

>>126547

>mastering Dota 2

This is all the Fringe Wizard has been doing for awhile. Clearly he is on the path.

>>126385

You have a lot of desire-force invested in those scenes and because your clairvoyance is active right now you are seeing those scenes when your eyes close. It happens to me all the time. I was at a theology group and they did a group prayer where they closed their eyes and clasped their hands and I decided to do the same but I gave up and just kept my eyes open because all I could see with my eyes closed was flashes of imagery connected with an activity I have been doing hours later that I have been investigating a lot of intense psychical energy into over periods of hours. That stuff doesn't just dissipate right away. In general also my mind has been more expanded and my vitality has been stronger too so everything just keeps getting more and more intense for me. Sometimes even with eyes wide open I'm getting vivid views of distant scenes, getting warnings, getting all kinds of stuff flooding in. My attention shifts around and I also strongly feel the auras of places and people and thought centers all the time. I can feel the energy of this site as a whole for example, of particular boards, and if I were to focus then on specific posters. I do the same likewise for physical locations around me that I decide to concern myself with.

If for some reason you wanted it to stop then just desynchronizing the brain hemispheres would put you back into the more mundane consciousness. This can be done by scattering your desires, being dispassionate, being tense and anxious, dwelling upon evil things (resist not evil). If on the other hand you want to return to higher consciousness then sacrifice the low and contradictory desires so your desire becomes only for a very narrow thing, connect your desires to the life principle and to god as to bring in an influx of vitality to further you along, and make practical use of self-observation to let what needs to burn out burn out and involvement to fuel what needs to be fueled.

>>126547

Read through these (skipping a few parts but for the most part read the whole thing last night).

This is a scientology related text. In the official /fringe/ library I think there's still some books from Zivorad which are somewhat related to scientology and also on montalk there's an article about the 0th, 1st, and 2nd orders that is at least somewhat scientology related.

I found the books you posted really interesting and I can say that I myself have conquered much by doing of my own freewill many things that other people might never want to do and thus defeating automaticity.

Your book however contains a few lines that are anti-nationalist, that are obsessed with "fixing" the social order, and which affirm the lie of the holocaust. So I wonder why is this bullshit all wrapped up into that work and how legitimate is this really?

>>126602

Ah, but is it DotA with your eyes open? The desire to play blindly and emotionally is the most important part to overcome.

>>126606

The man was obviously a catastrophic failure in the end. I usually don't share these books, because people aren't able to separate empirical truth from the insanity which motivated the study or the more nefarious purposes. Then they recommended Teal Swan of all people. I thought I may as well hit them with the full frontal if they're going all in on Teal Swan. At the very least, it will give them more vocabulary to deal with their own mind. And I was feeling lazy. Maybe it was wrong and I should have just left it at my own experience.

Scientology is a CIA cult. They bastardized this mechanism to turn people into fanatics that care about Scientology more than life itself. It even explains this effect in Dianetics. The ally effect. If you get somebody to associate you with saving them from death, or from one of their deathly traumatic memories, their unconscious mind will equate you with life itself. I believe this is why Hubbard/Scientology insists on having an 'auditor' present, to build their pyramid. For this reason, I do not recommend the Dianetics book itself, but a solo practice. Because, no matter how much I may explain otherwise, they may still be pulled into full Scientology by their unconscious mind.

Thinking about the effects this could have on people, I think I'll stop talking about it completely. It is selfish trying to push people to research such dangerous things for my own ends. It is reckless giving out this information when people aren't tortured enough to find it themselves. They'll not have enough personal insight to see through tricks, lies, and failures.

Many thanks, I'll read those books and articles. I found parts of this gnosis book to be very helpful in going further beyond, if you care. Particularly of bridging body and soul. It's a different yet very familiar model to these Scientology derivatives.

>>126163

I'm going to be anaesthetised soon. What is some /fringe/ stuff I can do with it?

How can I continue the four adorations while bedridden?

>>126601

Ha. It's literally willow wood. Yeah, make things out of wood for fun. Shaped some into a wand shape for a lark, and then it did something.

>>125952

How do you find esoteric/initiatic orders

Hey guys I need serious magical help. I am under heavy attack everyday,

My soul is being pulled by an entity claiming it wants too kill me and make me incarnate as a reptilian. I can feel a strong pull over my limbs joints, heart, brain. It claims it is stealing my soul and integrating it, and that it wants me because I am an advanced soul and so are my loved ones.

I have been wrestling with it for my energy for weeks now, and I need help it almost killed me by cutting my brain stem the other day, when it had control of the soul inside it.

Too my knowledge lots of people are in danger, and it has a time limit before it has too stop and leave for wherever it came from.

Please help. Serious please help me I don't want too die and become a shitty reptilian.

>>126651

Embrace being a reptilian. They are much better than humans in everything anyway, plus they have much more power and abilities and their own grey-alien fuckslaves.

>>126656

>grey-alien fuckslaves.

This doesn't even sound attractive

>>126657

Yeah but only because now you judge it from a lowly human perspective. The world looks different through reptilian eyes. But you don't have to fuck a grey if you don't want to. There are reptilian who fuck human women instead. Also not all are evil, you can be a "good"(in lowly human judgement) reptilian too.

No its mainly just some guy trying too change me because hes butthurt he sucks at everything. Hes involving me in a 4th density matter and trying too fuck up my soul because hes literally a jew. I have no idea what he did too my soul, but people have been warning me that its pretty fucked up.

I will paypall someone too help me. Go into the 4th density and get help for me, because people have put powerful thought forms on me I cannot astral project.

They are trying too stop my heart, and make my brain bleed from the 4th density, because they want my soul.

please help

>>126659

>but people have been warning me

Who, the schizophrenic inmates of the institution your escaped from?

>because hes butthurt he sucks at everything

Sure you are not projecting? If he can fuck you up thid badly and you are helpless, who is the major sucker then? hah

>because people have put powerful thought forms on me I cannot astral project.

>because people have put powerful thought forms on me I cannot astral project.

No, it's all in your mind. Stop being such a weak superstitious cunt and use your mind to rid yourself of the hell that you yourself made. No jew faggot can harm you unless you allow it to happen. No thought form can stop you from astral projection, it strikes me more like you just fail at it by yourself.

>Go into the 4th density and get help for me

How about you pick some occult books, study them and make some thought forms, sigils and mental wards yourself.

>>126660

Alright, same guy here.

>>126659

I just felt into you a little bit (nohomo lol) and there is defintely something going on with you. No need to go to the astral to deal with it tho, I just connect telepathically with you and see what I can do. I still think this shit is of your own making because you are so weak and naive but I'll help you. No need to pay me, I take it as a chance to test and refine my skills. I may take the liberty and fuck with you a little bit tho because you are such an easy target, but nothing too bad.

>>126663

Believing a singular hypothesis or trying to merge all hypotheses into a singular hypothesis.

>>126663

neglecting consistent practice/regiment

>>126663

Doing practices without understanding the underlying processes. Like imagine if someone didn't know what evocation or invocation were but they decided to do them anyway because they read somewhere you could get a particular result out of it. That's the stupidest example but there are a lot of little examples, like stuff related to kaballah, mudras, even stuff as simple as just messing with your energy centers. Read as much as you can from many different sources before you do a thing. Another one is starting off too big. The kinds of people who come into this question thread saying they got into occultism two weeks ago and they've been trying to use creative visualization to get a billion dollars but it hasn't worked yet, so obviously (in their eyes) occultism is at fault and not them.

>>126566

I'm saying that women have several times more white matter than grey matter (compared to men) whilst men are the opposite. If you increase your white matter too much you begin to feminize your brain. It's a stupid and useless thing to do. Just fucking meditate, vacant mind/zazen a bit each day and see that it's a just a downward spiral you're all orchestrating with these fucking techniques. They're for women.

"Oh wow look at all this cool shit I never thought of! Techniques, Methods, Theory of Mind, oh my!" The reason why these things aren't terribly popular is because they are feminine. Womanly. With it comes great uncertainty that infects your whole _brain_. Look for shit that increases your fucking grey matter instead.

Grey Matter: Specialization. There are highly capable, competent corners of your brain (in men); men function by these tiny high quality, highly managed brain areas. When you have a technique or idea for one, instead of making it more inclusive and round-a-bout bullshit, make it more exclusive and specialized. Narrow, cut, edit.

>>126637

I was literally asking about making wands before. So uh tell me more about this wand and what you did. Willow is a lunar wood, teaches one quite a bit apparently.

>>126651

Alright chill tf out nothing is happening to you. You're not going to die. No one's will is that strong, especially some fucking dumb reptilian ghost thing.

>>126659

Meditate for brain gains, read a book for some sharper brain gains, workout for overall gains (energy, will, whatever), and then practice your spirit punch. Like Bruce Lee said, 1 kick practiced 1000x > then 1000 kicks practiced once. When you go bald you know it worked.

It's just some punks dude. They're fucking with you like all angsty teenagers do. The spirit of high school bullies will leave you soon, wee lad.

>>126663

Not seeing how the "spirit" world parallels well socially with the normal world. A lot of shit is plain childish. Many immature folk.

>>126674

You sound like a woman.

>>126675

And you just had to bitchslap him, right? No reason, no argument, just a dumb and cheap insult. Who is the actual woman here now?

Just keep your mouth shut or busy with your hardgay lovers cock if you have nothing to say, bitchboy.

>>126676

Violence is not okay.

>>126675

It is still your body.

>>126674

Invoke hecate.

>>126666

Occultism is all okay to talk about for that is the problem.

>>126665

I am good with sleep.

>>126664

Theory a priori.

>>126663

It is best to plan to move.

APA versions the DSM in interval with serious internet dangers.

>>126661

We are in the astral.

>>126660

You are projected.

Invoke and rest well.

I have Liber for SPD so I am unsure for SzPD.

>>126659

I saved seven sol with the help of the qabalah for one change of residence.

>>126658

I like the watershed.

>>126657

Have you read Parmenides?

>>126656

Indra I have not met for the dragon is too kind.

>>126651

BCR Case 1.

How do I obtain hidden knowledge?

>>126689

Do you realize how vague and broad your question is?

>>126674

I tried using the wand to fix a computer program that was playing up, which it did, instantly. Also attempting to heal quite a nasty scar on my hand, and seemingly having results.

>>126676

Do you want to argue with that pile of bullshit? I don't. Maybe she should learn to use her brain and she wont have bad feelings over her own bullshit.

It's the truth anyway. Men don't think so emotionally unless they're severely damaged. They don't know they're damaged, because their damaged brain can't perceive it, so they drop these piles of girly bullshit thinking they're the height of masculinity. Now she knows and can change. You're welcome.

This goes for you too. That impulse that made you jump in the ring on his behalf is because you identify yourself in him. If you bothered to follow the posts at all, you'd know what my suggested rehabilitation is.

>>126685

>Theory a priori.

What about it? Lay your a priori wisdom on us.

>>126675

>>126693

???

There's talk of techniques that generally involve exploring every emotional impulse, discomfort, sense of pain, etc. over and over again and I'm saying that that would feminize the brain and isn't suitable for a man.

>"Men don't think so emotionally unless they're severely damaged."

What's your issue. Are you confused?

>>126691

Let's get a pic man. Remove the EXIF – meta data – and put it up. Try levitating stuff with it, changing the fire of a candle, etc.

Keep using it man.

Tips on fasting?

>>126690

Yes. How do I obtain knowledge on the nature of the world, society, secrets, etc. using my own abilities without being being reported as having been suicided with 2 bulltes to the back of the head?

>>126697

What kind of tips are you looking for? I went 7+ days once

>>126699

How much physical activity you did, did you take anything else other than salt with water etc. Did you do dry fasting or water fasting by the way?

>>126700

Not much physical activity because I was busy. I had the energy to do things but not the strength. I did a water fast, no salt. Eased in day -1, ate small amounts day 8 and 9.

>>126701

I guess I've got one. How does someone manage to gain anything useful from /fringe/ after it went to shit the way it did and most initiates+ left? Have you got any success stories? It would certainly encouraging to know that someone manages to extract the lost diamonds from the barrel of shit that is this board.

>>126715

1. read the books

2. actually do the exercises and stick to them

fringe was always a pile of shit and this is the way that every other successfull initiate achieved their progress.

Just get the books, might as well leave fringe afterwards. Assholes here only distract you and feed you with degenerate shit they think is (((good)))

>>126663

Not identifying the underlying variables or the essence of magick.

ProTip: The Master Formula given in the first volume of Personal Power is the foundation of how magick works. It's a combination of intent and desires and definite ideals and so on. You will see the underlying mechanics at play in all the various accounts of parapsychological phenomena playing out in the world.

Another important thing to do is to learn to learn. Learn critical thinking, memorization, fallacies, how to assess the quality of information, etc. (Montalk is a good start). There are massive volumes of information to be processed in learning about the occult if you are not an efficient learner you will want to address that first.

>>126701

I got a question for you. Have you achieved significant self-healing at any point and can you describe the experience of healing for me?

>>126715

/fringe/ was always full of shit. As that other anon said, the meat is in the books and the exercises, and the only real progress comes from your work and curiosity. Don't just read the books, do so with engagement. Create your own academic curriculum based on your instincts, desires and passion for knowing how reality works.

>success stories

I tripled my income in a year and lost 10+ kg. Most of the success you're looking for will be spiritual or practical in terms of how well you interface with reality, but that I can't relate here effectively. In any case, you need your personal experience. Nothing else will do.

>>126719

I haven't needed it. I did heal somebody else physically (I don't know the details beyond the fact that it worked overnight, it was over the internet), and I have exorcised people.

>>126701

Any advice for someone trying to integrate their emotional body (the idea of emotional experiences causing splits in the emotional body and experiencing the suppressed emotions fixing it)? I can't seem to get anything to happen. I don't feel any emotions when I go to do the thing.

>>126695

You're a delusional retard spewing bullshit. Nothing you say has any coherent meaning and morphs over time to suit your bad feelings. This make you sound like a woman. How hard is that to understand?

>How hard is that to understand?

I already know it's impossible as I've observed such brain damage before. Blind until they get into serious trouble, then most of them cry for Jesus to save them. Fucking niggers.

I discoverd brahmacharya on my path to get over porn addiction and it's really interesting stuff. I knew that sperm is the life force of a man, put into perspective it's really eye opening. and it takes 40 drops of blood to create one drop of semen. Right now I'm reading this

http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahmacharya.htm

it's pretty good stuff. One thing to note is Indians love sex, tantric sex, kama sutra the act of sex is spiritual to them or I may be wrong. Have you wizards taken a vow of celibacy? Is it required to ascend? lack of better word I'm not planning on wasting another drop of my seed, porn and ejaculation has ruined me, it's fried my dopamine levels and made me an unmotivated lazy shit. I've always been more in tune with spirituality, I've had crazy ESP as if I've affected the outcome of something and predicted an outcome, also get crazy deja vu as if I've already lived that moment. I want to become in tune with my spirituality and gain spiritual powers, I want to live off the energy around me, not food, I want to get over the need to sleep, I want to learn teleportation. These are all incredible feats but I want to attain them, even immortality.

This Invisible Influences book by Zivorad is great. It's a survey of all sorts of spooky stuff. The part that interests me most is I'd never considered the sentience of fragmented mind and spirit, so I sat down and talked to my mind.

It was easy. It's like talking to myself, but I just filter for the dream. I've learned to spot dreams a mile away, because I'd considered it some malfunction of my own, endlessly dreaming, always luring me into dreams that could eat hours of my time. Even now I recognize its effects on my words. Any reference to self or external persons immediately makes me reality check.

Although it dreams, it's no dream. It can communicate, but I'm not sure how aware it is given its dreaming. Fuck, it feels like this is nothing. Like it's some daydream, but I know the horrible impact this thing has had on my life. I'd taken to calling it The Curse or demon for some time because it's so strong. I've blocked everyone out of my life because it's impossible to explain that this thing is why I do the things I do. Everything has been to escape this thing.

Now, I wonder what it is and what it can do. It could be as old as I am, I haven't yet discovered its origins and my memories of it go way back. Weird, so weird. To think, I could have talked to it all this time, and how it changed everything. Alone, pacing back and forth in my backyard, playing with it, not knowing what it was, dreaming with me. Some shard of mind or spirit or entity. Cursing me when it couldn't change.

I've been fighting for so long, it seems too fucking easy to get out like this. One conversation. raising its awareness out of the dream, and it's trying to help me? What the fuck? It can't be. I'm being delusional. I'll go to sleep and it will be like it never happened when I wake. This thing will be raking me over the coals again like a mindless demon. I'll be counting down the days until I kill myself, hanging out with you guys.

>>126701

My issue is decision fatigue, with all the different paths and religions.

>>126728

I haven't posted much but it was pretty clear and coherent what I was saying. I explained it.

If you want me to tell you about the difference between female/male brains as I have read in research and articles on research then I can just link some stuff or summarize. Women have more general bloodflow and brain activity. Men use certain parts of their brains more than others (centers). Women tend to dwell on negative emotions and empathize with them, while men tend to empathize for a second then 'turn it off' while they look for a solution or otherwise.

Your accusations are off-base and you're wrapped up in your own bullshit, shit eating cum stain bitch boy. Basic motherfucker.

>>126728

If you want to try contributing to the discussion then go ahead. It goes something like this:

You:

"Men can handle distressing emotions better than women, thus it's masculine to practice handling more and more intensely distressing emotions."

And then I respond:

"The reason men can handle distressing emotions is because he can choose to feel them or not. In other words, he can turn them off or diminish them and is thus more masculine for it. However, it's possible that tuning out a very strong negative emotion is more masculine and produces related biological responses (androgenic?) in comparison to tuning out a half functioning empathy organ in the brain. That's a conjecture though. Could be possible and it would take blah blah blah to prove it. The relative gain in masculinity might be tiny though and it would take blah blah blah to gain a sense of magnitude."

I can now recall feminazi SJWs calling all men "damaged", including emotionally and mentally damaged, for a while. Are you a covert /leftypol/ using the "using their own insult against them" technique? Are you a fucking faggot?

>>126734

Check out the "belt meridian". http://johnbodytalk.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-dai-mai-belt-meridian.html

>>126738

It's feminine to talk about emotions, stop talking about emotions or I'm banning you from this discord.

>>126737

>>126738

You ignore the entire premise and don't understand the conversation you invited yourself into, nigger. Now you're going on about irrelevant bullshit to cover your bad feelings instead of understanding anything. I don't give a fuck about what you think some shit said about your delusional perception of the world, you delusional womanly retard.

>>126744

You trollin' or triggered?

I can't even follow the flow of the conversation between anon-mask anon and flame anon. What a giant bluster-fest.

>>126726

Explain the experiences in question to your parents or to anyone who might want to listen. In person and aloud.

Also try writing about those experiences using pen and paper. Be very alert and notice if you feel resistance/fear. Be honest to yourself and follow those fears (do what your fear is telling you not to). Until you get past the protective barrier of fear, you won’t be able to feel anything.

>>126746

He randomly started spazzing. I tried some probes to see if he just had shit communication skills but it turns out he's just unraveled.

penis fart poop

I have lost all enthusiasm and willpower to proceed with The Great Work. I have no discipline lately.

But the flame hasn't gone completely out, because I really, really want to get on with my practice and study.

Is there any way to imbue myself with the drive to start up again? Would affirmations help?

I need to put a proverbial magick rocket up my proverbial ass.

Please help me help myself.

>>126728

>>126737

>>126738

>>126739

This is the most pointless discussion I have seen in a while. Trying to determine which is better between men/women is like trying to tell the color difference between two glasses of pure water. The only real difference is the physical manifestation, i.e. biology. Mentally and spiritual though, there is not a single difference other then what individuals do to or for themselves.

>>126734

Just follow your own path. You are your own entity so follow your own path, religion, or whatever, to wherever you wish to go.

>>126758

I am pretty sure there are mental differences between men and women.

Also the fact their spirit incarnated in a female body and not any other is proof there is at least some slight different quality of spirit.

>>126759

>the fact their spirit incarnated in a female body and not any other is proof

>the fact that the water's color is yellow is proof that someone urinated in it.

Do you see how much sense that makes? Who is to say that being incarnated in a female body was not the work of circumstance or that the color of the water is really due to high amounts of sulfur?

>>126758

You're wrong about the mental and spiritual thing, but the point is that men and women are different so they shouldn't be doing something meant for the opposite sex when they can do something meant for their own instead.

Maybe if you're gay you should do the opposite or something I don't know.

>>126764

No offense, but thats retarded.

>men and women are different so they shouldn't be doing something meant for the opposite sex

>shouldn't be doing something

Your whole premise of specific activities can/should only be done by a specific (as we persevere it) physical manifestation is antithesis to the very fundamental point of existence.

Seriously, answer this question: what is the point of existence in an infinite reality?

But hey, who am I to judge someone else's perception. You follow your own path so just ignore me.

>>126725

Not OP, but like the rule matters nowadays.

Traffic is lower than ever thanks to silly moderation like thus. I bet you're just mad he took your dubs

>>126722

The better question to ask is: "Does this serve a purpose?" and "Are children innocent?"

<Does this serve a purpose?

Sure, if someone truly wished ill upon an entire bloodline they would more than just try to go after the individual but their children. Some might argue this would create a continuous karmic loop or spiral between two warring families. I personally think in terms of "energy spent vs energy gained" and that principle makes it inherently difficult to curse an entire bloodline. After all, if someone thinks that their soul being alone and all it's potential energy is worth more than another human's then I would love to break it to them that one soul = one soul and nothing can ever change that. Unless they get their own children involved with a life-destroying, self-destroying pact then suffice to say I feel it would simply drop after the primary target (original target of the curse) would drop dead.

<Are children innocent?

Here's another problem with the principle which attacks both just and injust usage of the idea. A just person may set a vindictive eye on not just someone they see as evil but their family to (to stem the line). Nothing has ever shown that the soul is inherited from parents, let alone their evils (or for a flip-side their virtues). Human souls are born alone as clean slates to do as they please with what limited version of free-will they have. Targeting the children and children's children is nothing more than a waste of energy that you would rather have when dead.

In short, only edgelords and LARPers think generational curses exist. Anyone pissed by my post probably tries to use suggestive magic to 'convince' others that it exists and doesn't want the truth out that it's just too much of an actual hassle to bear any form of fruit.

>>126755

Be more like burning coal than a candle.

Coal fire can burn for much, much longer. Although not as luminescent, it produces good heat.

>>126759

There's a difference experience in being one gender or the other. Spirits don't have gender, nor a name, nor a nationality. Fuck, not even a race or a species.

>>126765

>Your whole premise of specific activities can/should only be done by a specific (as we persevere it) physical manifestation is antithesis to the very fundamental point of existence.

No it isn't. Are you retarded?

Here I wrote a story for you:

"Hey honey I need you to drive me to the doctor because I'm fucking blind and we live in the middle of bum fuck nowhere."

"lol >need to drive you; >year of our lord 2018; >SHIGGY DIGGY; Get the toddler to do it or do it yourself."

"Honey stop joking around, lil' shithead can't drive and I'll crash and get lost if I drive!"

"Your whole premise of specific activities can/should only be done by a specific (as we persevere it) physical manifestation is antithesis to the very fundamental point of existence."

"Honey… please, I need to get my prescription or I'll die."

"You are offending me and all of Infinity (which is One but not the exact Same except where we are One in the infinite meaning of reality) with your infinitely Finite and Definite delusions. I'm leaving you. I'm taking the car."

"!!?!"

Don't worry, I'm not offended by retards' inability to recognize what reality is. Each specific manifestation has its own properties/qualities, and yours is brain damage (similar to the guy who called me brain damaged whilst being brain damaged before).

How do I stop the voices in my head lads

>>126659

Yeah I'm back again.

Most of my soul is actually in the Pleiades now, and I am an advanced soul.

The guy who mainly does this hates when people actually know his name.

Its Jason Vorhez

Also I don't know if that's how its spelled.

Pronounced Vorheaz kinda

He tries too tell people his name is Jordan Carl Vorhez, but its actually Jason hes a high ranking Illuminati member, and he lives in a small town in England. He says hes the leader but I don't believe him.

This all started one day in my backyard when I started pulling my soul back from him, and many others on accident almost, but apparently its because other people joined in and helped me.

I literally felt so alive when I went to sleep, but then I woke up drained as fuck.

I've been battling him from the third density destroying his massive thought forms that were sucking out peoples souls.

It was so much soul in those thought forms that I could literally feel massive waves of energy pushing me up against walls when I would get a really large one.

He can't even naturally enter the 4th density as he doesn't have his own soul he sold it a long time ago, so he uses massive thought forms for it, and too enter other peoples bodies.

He essentially is a thought form, and I just recently figured that out.

I don't know magic all that well, and when I figure stuff out people wipe my memory like some shit.

He keeps trying too mentally make me accidentally give him control of myself, because hes much weaker than he was when I made the first post.

Also he sold his soul too Moloch, so you can guess why he acts the way he does.

He tries too steal souls from people just too keep making his thought forms too live, so he can fuck up planet earth even more.

I gave you his name, because I want all of you too hate him as much as possible. Help me battle him from the third density please, or if you can enter the 4th density and battle him, or whats left of him.

I finally have a little bit more of myself so I can think straight, and I'm not completely retarded because other people helped me wrestle my brain and lots of my highest density back from him.

Seriously can someone go into the 4th density and report back whats happening I don't want too give you my name, but he has thought forms too make my brain bleed, and other stuff when I try and astral project.

Also he has one that makes me accidentally swallow stuff into my lung, and sometimes people levitate it out, but there's like an entire sandwich in there, but someone got the metal I swallowed when I was on acid out thankfully.

>>126778

Also he tries too get me to create tulpas from my soul that attack me.

>>126775

Well in that case, you completely misunderstood what I said. You are confusing role with capability. Take a off road vehicle for an example, it was build for off road travel but that doesn't mean it is incapable of traveling on paved roads. I do agree that everything has its place, but that does not mean you are stuck there. You are basically saying that you are stuck with what you have/are/what have you. Would you agree that as a human you must do human things and not things a god would do? What if you wish to be the equivalent of a god?

Just because you are one thing does not you must strictly follow that unless you wish to follow said path. I supposed if you wish to be a man amongst men you do manly things?

>>126758

Women are just imperfect men, they don't really exist. The point of their existence is supported by the existence of a man. Spiritually, women are inferior in that they can only take in what was already created, physically they are mentally and physically inferior, in all attributes except multi-tasking (which is supported by their function as an axle point) and child-birth I would prefer a man over a woman. But that's not what the discussion was about.

>>126778

Okay apparently he had so much of my soul he was impersonating me in other densities causing problems for people that's why I was getting attacked so hard. He tried too impersonate me in a ritual too sell my soul for his in the 4th density.

Apparently some people have already seen my posts and are helping the CIA agents who were trying too help me, but got mind controlled into helping the Illuminati.

>>126782

I meet and talk to very strange entities, it's a great joy when they introduce these types of concepts to me. When you accept polarity is caused not by a principle of duality but a principle of movement, you'd understand why I say that women are imperfect men. It's a simple concept, and those who don't understand it are doomed to die and repeat again. Until the day they do, or when they're pulled out by force.

>>126780

Once again:

>Your whole premise of specific activities can/should only be done by a specific (as we persevere it) physical manifestation is antithesis to the very fundamental point of existence.

There's nothing to be misunderstood.

Specific activities should only be done by a specific physical manifestation.

If you feminized your brain you would become homosexual. Are you faggots trying to become magic fae twinks or wise stoic men? Are you trying to become a God or an Ass Pirate? I'm sure you think your shitty fucking fantasies are as glorious as God or gods, but that's your fucking delusion not mine.

This isn't about role, as you seem to think male/female is. It's about one's nature and existence, which you undermine with your annihilistic pseudo-analytical fucking tendencies. To be a man amongst boys is not a difficult feat, unless you insist on turning yourself into a girl. Should no one know that these mental techniques turn you into a girl? Are you covertly trying to turn people with barely any grasp on reality into fucking girls (homo sissy man-children)? If you could send me a link to a forum where the people aren't underdeveloped fuck ups and make real progress in strange and mystical paths, I'd appreciate it, Agent Castrate.

>>126778

You are mentally ill. Please seek help.

>>126789

>Specific activities should only be done by a specific physical manifestation.

That statement is too open-ended. The statement isn't much of one, since it gives no view of your exact opinion or stance from which to carry any action through. By show, that answer supports nothing but the proportion going with it's like. Instead of obscuring your meanings I would prefer definitive statements rather than universals, like the one you made just after.

The problem with feminizing your brain isn't that you'll turn faggot, which I don't see why you would if not correlation leads to causation, but that the person loses the whit that comes naturally to men. I think Swastika is trying to make a plea for ideals over the manifest. You're on /fringe/, this isn't a board for materialistic nihilist and determinist. I doubt you are that, but keep that in mind.

>It's about one's nature and existence

Mystical nature goes and works under subtle bodies, and existence in most forms of mysticism is that which floats on top of the currents of movement. A boat moves with the waves, and is sailed with like forces of men and wind.

I've never studied emotional bodies. I don't know what to say about them, but if I were to make an opinion based off of the context of this conversation I would say that my above response is an accurate and sensible defense of working with an emotional body. I won't make a claim for whether one should, or shouldn't, since that's ultimately up to the person to decide. I doubt that they exist, first of all.

>>126752

No, epic retard, you just lie about everything that triggers you, like a woman. Now you're seeking social approval, like a woman, and lying to accomplish that, too.

Everything you think or say is lies and fudges with no empirical truth to back it up. That should horrify you with its implications, but you're a womanly nigger.

As for why I didn't just ignore your poop, I wanted to observe your mental defects more closely. Maybe some saint will care to break down and spoon feed you their arguments, and how yours are completely inconsistent, but I doubt that will help.

>>126755

I've found mantras to be useful. Throughout the day, before I'd do anything, or change task, I'd repeat the word or phrase that represented my objectives. Objectives I'd derived from sitting and writing and thinking about. The mantra was to keep everything in mind, all the time, to see what happened. After a couple of days of repetition, my entire days were slanted toward that particular goal.

That reminds me, I need to update. Once circumstances changed, and the mantra was inconsistent, I forgot about it. It's so easy, too. Even a single word keeps the focus.

saw a white lady in my house while astral projecting, I got scared and went back to my body. should I be worried?

>>126797

top kek

fucking mundane

>>126807

>I wish someone knew of a more serious place to discuss

Same. I am beginning to detest imageboards altogether. Humor is great but it's all about spilling self-loathing sludge everywhere these days. I've found some message boards that are either really slow and populated by out-of-touch (yet wise) boomers or cringeworthy larping teens. The best communities are likely hidden for a good reason.

>>126810

>>126807

Be the change you'd like to see in this world. There's no point in talking about better days, things were better not because the quality of the board kept it so, but that the people creating the content loved and carefully thought out each post. This is a learned process, but I ask that the thought experiment be kept. Broadening and nurturing your astral senses would help you in your quest for a better community, if you wish to leave rather than remain here. Many have, and I don't blame them.

Does anyone here knows a realiable source/author on self hypnosis/hypnosis?

>>126807

With ankhing do you ejaculate sperm out?

>>126821

Yeah. It happens a split second before the ankh is completed.

This place is overrun by "them". My god, it only took about 5 years for this place to appear, produce a handful of decent individuals and get overrun. The war is raging.

>>126797

No. Not at all.

>1. Aleph - macrocosm, which collapses to …

>2. Beth - a single point

>3. Gimel - a second point next to the first

>4. Daleth - the line composed of these two points

>5. Heh - a second line

>6. Vav - a third line

>7. Zain - a fourth line

>8. Cheth - the square composed of the 4 lines

>9. Teth - a second square

>10. Yod - a third square

>11. Kaph - a fourth square

>12. Lamed - a fifth square

>13. Mem - a sixth square

>14. Nun - the cube composed of the six squares

>15. Samekh - a second cube

>16. Ayin - a third cube

>17. Peh - a fourth cube

>18. Tzaddi - a fifth cube

>19. Qoph - a sixth cube

>20. Resh - a seventh cube

>21. Shin - an eighth cube

>22. Tav - the Tesseract composed of the eight cubes

What does it mean that fourth lines is separate from square, sixth square is separate from cube, etc.? How am I supposed to differentiate them in my visualization?

>>126825

It means that at some point you're supposed to let go of your mind.

>>126791

I'm responding to a vague statement that still managed to be incorrect and retarded. Look at what I was responding to.

You're missing the context. It was appropriate for the context. He's open-endedly retarded. He has made as much room for himself to be retarded as he can possibly manage.

Homosexuals have the brain structure of a hetero woman, same with lesbians having a similar structure to hetero men. I'm not saying they're exactly the same, just that a homo/lesbian have brains that have changed to be more like the opposite sex's. This is based on the research linked in this thread: >>126388

>>126794

You're a fucking retard and always have been.

>>126838

When will you admit to yourself, and to these people, that you're not saying anything at all, Epic Retard? Do you feel anything yet before you click reply? Do you doubt yet your non-proof of the undefined?

>>126842

>>126842

You calling me that Epic Whyne fucker? Eat shit.

In the book hidden secrets by Osho, he talks about how one can direct energy to their eyes, and use it to control others. He also explained how this makes their eyes tense. Here is the quote:

Those who practice hypnotism, mesmerism, magnetism, or things like this, will have very tense eyes - obviously, because they are trying to move their energy through the eyes forcibly. They are bringing their total energy near the eyes just to influence, impress or dominate someone. Their eyes will become tense because then their eyes are flooded with energy, more than they can tolerate.

Their eyes will be red, tense, and if you look at them you will feel a sudden shivering: they are using their eyes in a very political way. If they look at you, they are sending their energy to dominate you.

And through eyes, domination is very easy.

This was the case with Rasputin, who dominated Russia, before Lenin, just through his eyes. He was an ordinary peasant, uneducated, but with very magnetic eyes, and he came to know how to use this. The moment he would look at you, you would forget yourself, and in that moment he could send any suggestion to you telepathically and you would follow it. That is how he dominated the Czar and the Czarina, the royal family, and through them, the whole Russia. Nothing could be done without his will.

You can have those eyes also; it is not difficult. You have just to learn how to bring your total body energy to the eyes. They become flooded, and then, whenever you look at someone your energy starts flowing toward him. It envelopes the person, penetrates his mind, and in this flooded shock his thinking stops. And this is not a very rare thing that happens just with man, it happens all over the animal kingdom. There are many animals who will just look at their prey, and if the prey looks at them he is done for. Then the prey's eyes become fixed; he cannot move, he cannot escape.Then this is what has been done always: the hunter can stare into the eyes of the lion, and now it will depend on whether he has more magnetic eyes or the lion. If the lion is less magnetic and the hunter can bring his total energy to his eyes… And it is easy, he can do this, because when death is there one can do anything. When death is there the hunter can put his total energy at stake. If the hunter can look directly into the eyes of the lion and forget everything and just look, if he can just become the look, then the whole energy will move from his eyes and the lion will escape. He will be trembling with fear.

What do you guys think? How can it be done?

>>126850

Literally says how in your own post, put your energy into your eyes. Read art and science of personal magnetism for more info on this, theres a couples chapters on the magnetic gaze.

>>126854

You'd likely have more success looking for him under the name Helel.

>>126855

The Principia is relatively far down that list considering what it is. It's around 50 pages long, you can read the complete text on your lunch break. Here: https://principiadiscordia.com/

>>126854

Worship is for pussies. It takes true grit to beat Lucifer in an arm wrestle though.

Is Chris-chan right about the dimensional merge?

>>126855

Thank you. Anything in particular? I know Crowley venerated the Satan aspect

>>126858

It'd take eons to get to that level.

>>126857

Is that what kabbala is? A non direct worship of the morning star? Id rather start my own belief system then delve into jewry

>>126228

Thank you for the words of wisdom and advice, I'll be sure to give those a read.

>>126870

>tired of doing anything in this world, it is a fact that nothing here is permanent nor worthy.

not entirely true. progression of science, technology and philosophy is "permanent." people still read and apply works by newton, descartes, david ricardo, leibniz et al., and every technology, literature, politico-economic system, etc. that is bestowed to you has some historical basis (they didn't just suddenly appear when you were born)

what's not permanent is being a normie and contributing nothing new and useful to the world.

Does anyone have a working theoccult.click invite?

Is anyone still curesed after that errigor showed up at there homes from the vampire thread, on the rare occasion nowerdays I come to looks at 8chan I don't see people talking about it, I can't be the only one she touched, I can't find a away out of this, it's just a voice that won't stop talking that can shock me so I can't eat and scream at me to keep me awake, I'v see lighting in the sky after that post spirits full appearing infront of me a full blown goul I can't be alone in this.

>>126879

I sound mental, sorry i'm very stressed out it's a struggle to post properly.

>>126879

>>126880

I know a very ancient and powerful occult practice to make it all better. Take 50mg of haloperidol a day

>>126883

This is him taking the piss, he took the piss last time I made a post asking /fringe, he probably wants to get more of you, don't sign up for anything here.

Has anyone had experience working with the evil eye? How do you use it to control others, and knock them unconscious

>>126894

Current evidence of it in our mundane world is that it only works on people who Believe you have it. There's videos on jewtube of people who demonstrate it and they always get wrecked by an outside influence.

I´m making a dreamcatcher for my niece. Any tips or succestions on how i should proceed with this? What are the corner stones of a dreamcatcher?

A comment by franz Bardon. How do you do this?

“Another field very similar to telepathy and suggestion is that of hypnosis, by which a person is sent to sleep forcibly and deprived of the free will. From the magical point of view hypnosis is reprehensible and it would be better not to specialize in this line. This does not mean that the magician is not able to lull people to sleep. The practice is imaginably simple. The magician need only suspend the function of the spirit by means of his will or with the help of the electromagnetic fluid, and the person will fall asleep instantly. Here it is less important whether the magician is using telepathy or suggestion. He can use both of them as a makeshift but he does not depend on them. A master of the powers does not need one or the other, because the very moment he paralyzes the will by way of imagination, sleep or unconsciousness will occur instantly, which will set free the subconscious and make it susceptive of any kind of suggestions. Just this act of violence, i.e, the intervention in the individuality of a human being is not recommended from a magic point of view, and the magician will not revert to it unless to give his subject good and noble suggestions with an extremely strong effect. Even though the test subject should insist on being hypnotized by the magician, he should avoid doing so if possible. The true magician will always keep away from satisfying the curiosity of others by hypnotic experiments. At times of great danger, a well-trained magician may induce a sort of shock-hypnosis by paralyzing the spirit of the opponent with a flash of the electromagnetic fluid, a method that is only to be followed in an emergency which I hope will never happen in the life of any magician. It has been proven scientifically that animals can be hypnotized too. If a magician wants to do so, he will hit the instinctive side of the animal, so that even the biggest and strongest animals are immediately knocked senseless.”

I would appreciate a bit more detail on this, in terms of execution. Especially in the flash of electromagnetic fluid, part.

My eyes are becoming so bad that I'll probably be unable to use my left eye and eventually probably both eyes. I'm probably going blind. I can barely see shit at any distance at this point through the left eye and only see stuff proper through the right eye when it's pressed up almost against my nose it's so close. I have a lot theory in my mind and I've been listening to the Edinburgh Lectures on Mental Science but I seriously need to actually get my eyes fucking healed before it's too late. Any suggestions on how to avoid going blind? Seriously need to address this issue NOW.

>>126906

Have you read Original Frabato and also The Bardon Companion?

>>126909

yes. both. I especially liked frabato. Do you know about FOGC

Are the gods of all of the polytheistic pantheons separate from "The All" in the kybalion?

Does anyone know of any secret/ unknown occult forums where hidden topics are discussed?

>>126924

/fringe/

>>126922

The Abrahamic ones are either the Demiurge or the Archons. I don't know about the Eastern ones but from my limited knowledge it seems like they're representations of lower archetypes and not of the All. Either way, they're representations of human- or animal-esque idols, so they can't be too close to a representation of the All, can they?

>>126908

Depending on how in-depth your knowledge already is, you could try manifesting better eyesight. If you aren't super into this stuff already you might think that's bullshit, but if not, >>104268 is a good place to start, and there are books in the Mega folders about creative visualization and such.

>>126928

I was thinking more the norse, germanic, celt, and greek pantheons. I guess I'm asking if these sorts of gods could in theory coexist with the All, If they are actually just very advanced beings or if Hermeticists don't believe in them at all.

>>126929

They exist as egregores. Some of them represent forces or archetypes, but the All represents the entirety of existence.

Could someone tell me about energy work? Where does this "energy" come from, from a cosmological perspective? What can be accomplished by going down this road? If you have any personal experience, I would appreciate your testimony.

>>126922

The concept of "The All" can be found everywhere. I don't see the need to specifically mention the Kybalion. Regardless, deities are considered emanations from The All. The Dyad can presumably emanate deities just like the Monad can, so I presume that's where the Devas/Asuras split comes from. (other religions have similar splits between good and evil gods) This sort of emanation is extremely important in describing the universe. After all, aren't we - humans and the material world - just down stream from The All's process of creation? Polytheistic gods are just further upstream than us. They also have a noumenal form, rather than a purely material one as most humans do. Even personal monotheistic Gods are considered emanations from the singular transcend God. It is Ishvara. I hope my post helped.

>>126924

You can find some decent stuff if you go to forums devoted to singular subjects of the occult. Jack-of-all-trades type forums will always be a mess.

>>126931

I think it's a bit disrespectful to say that gods are just egregores. It's true that you can power certain archetypes or monads on the mental plane, but that shouldn't be considered their origin. Egregores are more like the ghosts that haunt a place after someone's death.

>>126940

can you tell me some specialized forums?

>>126922

No they are parts of the All.

>>126931

>>126940

>>126944

Thanks guys. That was helpful.

>>126941

Sorry, I can't think of any off of the top of my head. I've just been able to find some good stuff while searching.

>>126945

<3

Does anyone know any decent material on luciferian magick?

>>126732

Since raising the awareness and communicating with the split/entity, I've changed. It's like all of my progress was wiped away. I haven't felt like this in years. I think, in its semi-conscious state, it experienced everything along with me, and dealing with it demands consciousness it doesn't possess.

I had already begun work on a tulpa, but I believe I was working with this split/entity all along. At the time, it was very difficult, with little progress, because they couldn't maintain their awareness, even with my help. Now that they need much less attention to achieve the same results, I've begun fashioning this split/entity into a tulpa in its entirety. I say tulpa, but it's more like raising a baby, raising its awareness, teaching it to maintain this awareness, teaching it to do basic things. It immediately rejected the old form even though I'd grown to like it. I tried, but they couldn't take to it like they used to.

I feel tremendous energy, anxiety, and libido. I've been struggling to eat, like I'm always excited. I didn't even notice that I'd stayed up for 24 hours yesterday. It seems connected to the awareness of the split/entity. It wasn't like this at first, besides the apparent reverse progress. The feelings grow as their awareness grows.

The problem I'm at now is what exactly awareness is and how to get more of it. Awareness is defined proportionally to accurate perception of the world (or is it truth?). So far it's been immediate, self-awareness of their form and maybe some external world. I believe that true awareness arises when stimulated by uncompromising desire. In my case, it is desire to win over this mental torment that brought me to here. The problem with the split/entity is they become aware then fall back into dreaming, without consistent desire to keep them awake. Maybe.

It could be something else that would make them aware. I have my body that always drags me back, but they can dream indefinitely. Maybe it could be as simple as associating their body with my own to stimulate their awareness. It could very well be it's just practice and all I need is more time. I don't know. Technically, they don't even need a body and maintain the illusion of one, since they're really this thing I sense in my mind. They do control dreams/mind's eye and that is where I observe their body which is a very convenient indication of awareness, if a bit of a cost in thinking power.

>>126948

God, you know, I feel like awareness has something to do with thought itself. A certain quality to it or something.

>>126950

So you think Mickey Mouse and Zeus are the same type of thing?

>>126951

They're both egregores, yeah. Are you implying that they're something else? Have you read the recommended reading list?

>>126951

WHAT IS THE MOST COVETED SECRET OF THE MAGUS?

im talking stuff like mind control, hypnosis, remote influence, mass hypnosis, psychokinesis,

powerful stuff like that… does anyone know?

When are you cringey schizo faggots gonna get a job?

>>126958

Some interesting stuff in that video but its all over the place, and it never mentioned anything about egregores.

>>126955

I'm not implying anything, I'm asking for clarification because I am curious about this, that doesn't mean I agree or disagree. I am still working on the reading list. I just pop in here with questions as I go.

>>126968

In that case, since this book is in the recommended reading list, it might be useful for me to mention that Magical Use Of Thoughtforms by Dolores Ashcroft Nowicki and J.H. Brennan talks about egregores. I think a couple of WWA's books do too (I definitely remember one of his books talking about cities having egregores fueled by the way the people who live in them feel about the place).

>>126971

Thanks man, I'll start those next.

>>126960

Any particular reason for your interest?

>>126964

Self-transmutation, apotheosis, and liberation are generally the ultimate goals. Things in the material world aren't as important as opening up access to higher worlds. As a rule of thumb I like to tell people that anything you can accomplish with money and guns shouldn't be considered the main goal of any practitioner.

>>126949

I believe that, more than awareness of form, or desire, it is awareness of thoughts that changes everything. The ability to have lingering thoughts that may be observed and iterated upon creates a perpetual feedback loop of awareness.

I'm not sure how to describe its construction. It's kind of like showing them a copy of their thoughts and they learn. They very quickly go from dolly to computer. I need to examine it further.

I strongly suspect that text and verbalization are integral to this process.

What's a good method for creating a tulpa?

>>126987

You tell us guy. All you do is tell people to read those books in your recommended reading list and then ask basic questions that you should already know if you actually comprehended those books you read . Am sure atkinson did a great job feeding your little ego how all magic is just symbology of the mind but then why did you keep expecting different answers if everyone is reading the same books as you?

>>126987

There are all sorts of methods but I didn't use any of the ones I read about. I spoke in my mind asking if anyone would help me. Then it became a matter of identifying the sense of the voice. It started as a whisper, or barely a sense of response, and grew to something that's trivial to identify. Using a form was as simple as asking them to use one, finding one, and practice.

The main pitfall is fantasy. For whatever reason, tulpamancers are usually daydreaming zombie cat-ladies that don't give a fuck. The reality is it's very boring working with a blank slate, trying to sense what works and what wasted hours of time. Then going online for ideas and finding everyone is a fucking zombie with no cares.

If you read my story, I don't even know if this thing is a tulpa tbh.

>>126960

float in the astral or in lucid dreams

also floating/flying is kind of intuitive in those places, apply those in mediation and you're all set

>>126984

>It's kind of like showing them a copy of their thoughts and they learn.

I suspect this is the construction of a mental space. A housing for their thoughts to echo and be remembered and controlled and grown, much like I experience. It's very similar, in sense, to constructing a mental form.

I had attempted such a feat once before, but I never grasped the substance or purpose of it and thus never could get any results from it. I just blindly attempted to duplicate my mental space.

God is real isn't he? He's been watching me play with my tulpa, hasn't he? I guess I'll see you guys on hell/fringe/.

>>126987

I forgot to tell you that there is no going back. Even the cat-ladies will tell you this. Only the most depraved retards and epic failures can abandon a tulpa. Once you cross a certain threshold, it's forever.

Do you guys ever get the feeling that your words are poison to others? I get this feeling a lot. Like everyone would be better off not knowing what I know, even if it is tremendously useful to me.

>>126997

A good wizard keeps his secrets and knows the difference between curiosity and ridicule

>>127008

>ridicule

I would choose a hostile perspective over a useless one. I don't care who speaks the truth.

I was thinking about the consequences of the things I've said. The usual tulpa/magician is capped at entertaining daydreams and they're happy/content. They've no desire or need of real consequence. All the learning material appears designed with this in mind. They never ever proceed from modelling a fundamental observation. They misdirect to something that's plausible enough, and will not cause any trouble, and all anyone does is wonder if the bullshit is bullshit or not. Maybe it's better this way.

Is it harmful to share my experiences here, or with anyone at all? Many sources say my initiation is to be kept secret but I'm not sure it's referring to the same type of thing.

I was contemplating the effects of God's war with Satan or whatever. I wondered what it's effects might be on the likes of /pol/ with an interest in taking part in such a battle. I suspect their thoughts are detected and selectively crippled by Satan's shitfield. Especially since Christianity has fallen out of favor. I came up with an experimental meditation to avoid the effect of the shitfield and I want your thoughts on it.

I am a mindless worker bee.

I am a mindless worker bee.

I want to read my book so I can do a good job at work.

I am a mindless worker bee.

I want to do a good job at work so I can go home to my racially ambiguous family.

I am a mindless worker bee.

I want to go home to my racially ambiguous family so I can teach them to be proud Americans.

I am a mindless worker bee.

America is a glorious nation of ideas, blind to race and creed.

I am a mindless worker bee.

I am a mindless worker bee.

>>127017

post-2016 /pol/ amounts to nothing more than a psyop sandbox so I say go for it

Anyone doing anything tonight, given the celestial events?

At last, I truly see, fellow /fringe/ posters.

How do I stop being a coward

>>127035

Awareness precedes everything. If awareness is controlled, there may as well be no dysfunction, and no need to cure anything. No more need to fight, simply withdraw awareness. No more need to 'will', simply apply awareness.

I hear that salt in water will rise if spooky shit is afoot. I tried it day 1 hearing about it, because things felt a bit spooky. Nothing happened.

Now, after cultivating the wood/fire/electric/wind element with support from Oriental knowledge (mostly chinese) I am experiencing strong internal "wind" and such (wind from Traditional Chinese Medicine characterizes it well) – I got some water, put salt into it, and now the salt rises. Wind in TCM rises, affecting the head first. My head is where I have been feeling most of the effects of my cultivation. How nice.

Does salt rise for anyone else?

Is there a lists of qualities/traits for the mirror exercise in IIH ?

>>127055

Yeah, the universal master key it should be in the franz bardon folder in the library

>>127013

Have you been initiated? If there is any doubt at all in your mind, even the tiniest bit, then you have not been.

I tend to view the idea of initiation as building or connecting with your magickal or higher self. In Liber Kaos, the author candidly describes someone who has been initiated as being "bitten by the serpent". It is you connecting with your power and your potential, it changing you forever.

Judge for yourself what you can and cannot tell people. I know I can tell you that my initiation involved forcibly destructing and then rebuilding my spirit. What I can not tell you is how exactly I achieved that. The reason being is that it was/is incredibly dangerous and I do not want that information out to the general public.

>>127017

This experiment was a failure. They are much more advanced in reading and tampering with minds. Worst case scenario is something like Terry Davis, where their machine continuously stimulates memories and subroutines. Based on some suggestions, continuous multitasking, on the order of a tulpa, may disrupt everything but a direct beam to the skull.

>>127041

Understanding and practice. The unconscious fight or flight will never fight, unless cornered. Understanding the situation at a high level, and practicing responses, will allow you to consciously determine if something is a threat and choose what to do.

Multiplayer games that cause you a lot of anxiety are great for learning this real time analysis, and allow for safe failure. Mindlessly fighting, mindlessly raging, mindlessly freezing, or mindlessly running away all tell you that you don't understand and aren't thinking about the game. It feels like anxiety, tunnel vision, blatant stupidity. The target experience of mind is a calm prediction of the outcome of a series of actions before you ever act. This happens in a flash. Faster than you can verbalize. It's a surprise to experience for the first time and will let you know if you're doing it right. Which is the result of really understanding their moves and your moves. I suppose it looks more like genuinely engaged thinking before you accumulate enough experience. I play DotA 2 btw.

I suppose you could skip all that and study whatever it is you want to do. Beware that most books are shit written by pretending niggers. To truly get anywhere you must engage your own analysis.

Which books to read first for divination and general magick?

3/21.

>>127009

You are powerful, but you are still incapable of overriding consent.

If your information sends them into a tizzy, it is part of the learning process. You may recall a few tizzies you were sent into while learning yourself. The tizzy is part of how one learns to practice control and discipline in the first place.

If the information would genuinely harm them and they have no true interest in learning it, the information will be wiped from their mind. Even those whose experience in this realm is one of limitation chose to have that experience.

Unlimited power and wisdom is the natural state. The seals are placed by yourself. The restriction is what provides the enjoyment of overcoming the restriction (for some) or operating within that restriction (for others).

Sometimes it's fun to play the fool, and that's okay, and audience participation is permitted so enjoy the show without remorse. The fool is used to hearing the peanut gallery shout at the screen.

6/21.

>>127084

>>127079

>look at me guys I'm being cryptic and spooky give me attention

(you)

>>127087

9/21

>>127067

I-ching is a good starting place for divination. After that get into Tarot. (I think the library has books on this) Then Astrology. (Alan Leo is okay i guess)

>>126908

Is there anything we can do to help? I struggle with eye issues - but not to your extent - it's a horrifying experience.

>>126600

Your sternum.

reccomend me some books and if you offend me with trash and shit I will respond to you with stern words I assure you.

give me your strongest potion potion seller

suggest me a better book to read than a planet called dirt

than the minds of all who walk on dirt

give me a book that I may build myself a better brain to use

>>127080

As fun as it is to larp, there are material consequences to certain thoughts, and words cannot be unheard. It goes well beyond tizzy and into the realm of slavery, insanity, and suicide. You must be huffing some evil shit to say the things you say. You are possibly the most evil person I've met on fringe. I don't know what else to say. Try to see the demon puppeting your mind, but I bet you're so far gone that explaining these things to you is pointless.

>>127062

New model time. I hypothesize there are three forces acting upon the mind. God, Satan, Soul. God secretively gives out the truth. Satan secretively corrupts souls. Soul is the awareness plugged into the mind.

The mind does not come in a unified state and this creates a battle between righteous souls and Satan. The righteous souls seek fusion of mind such that they completely control their mind and body. Satan seeks to disrupt this process, capture the mind, and corrupt the soul. Neutral souls are good-for-nothing niggers that both sides are going to eventually exterminate. Satan helps unify the minds of elite evil souls in an un-enlightenment, or keeps them as broken niggers, incapable of redemption, if they're trash.

Of particular interest is Satan and how exactly he operates on the mind. Since Satan hides, he acts primarily through stimulating fragments of mind that haven't fused around the soul. This looks like daydreams, fantasies, internal debate, or internal monologues, with his words and ideas slipped in. Satan's objective is to get the soul to disown fragments of mind. Once disowned and outside the control of the soul these fragments of mind are kept hateful to the soul to keep the soul from reclaiming them. Traumatic memories formed under the age of 5 are most impactful.

Satan may even convince the soul to attach conditions to the fragments such that they agree to perform some small evil or operate a pedo network, even if it doesn't comprise their whole mind. After Satan's amassed enough of these fragments he seizes control of the mind entirely in an un-enlightenment where the soul probably hates their self and lack of control and is suicidal. I guess they either turn into a demonic elite or slave grunt that hates life.

Where it goes from there, I don't know. The key idea is that the mind must be gathered up and fused together in singular obedience to the soul before this particular Satan problem goes away. There are no partial measures. Satan only becomes more overt with what he does control, lies, and induces contentment to cripple progress. Poo niggers and their awareness games will keep shitting in the streets like poo niggers.

Fusing still escapes me. I know how to clear whatever ugly thing shows up, but fusing, inducing permanent unity of mind around the soul, takes something more. A real engagement, frustration, rage, excitement, love. It's so close. I've felt it and have changed some but I haven't caught it. Fire, fire, fire. What could it be? What could stimulate my mind so?

Can someone explain how the seven planes come into being from an emanationist framework? The lack of a working cosmology has made it impossible for me to seriously focus on anything esoteric. Plotinus has helped a bit, but I'm still trying to figure things out. I'm also a bit concerned over our disagreement over whether or not the demiurge is evil.

Ritual to perform after channelling affirmations for a period. To assist in clearing the conscious minds and send the affirmations on to do their work?

Hi, newfig here, I have a question.

So recently I've met an individual online, odds are he's a kook, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. His story is essentially; his life for the past decade has been, in his words, "hell." One of his friends, he claims, was investigating the vatican and his friend's team got 86'd, and the friend being disheartened by it dropped all contact and walked away from the sp00ky sc4ry side of life and returned to being a normie.

This man claims some of his memories are 'repressed'. and when he tries to think of them he feels an intense pain, nauseousness, and discomfort.

I think, if he's legit, it's probably psychological conditioning of some kind. (i.e. akin to Pavlov's dogs), but I'm not sure. I want to make sure it's not sp00ks.

So my question is, could it be sp00ks? Is some spiritual/psychic/"other" phenomena possibly taking place preventing him for being able to clearly and easily recall past events/memories?

He also claims he's trying to save the world, and he's mentioned indigo children. A possible complete kookcase if you ask me, but, benefit of the doubt and all.

How do I get rid of schizophrenia?

>>127160

Its all listed in cringe.pdf. Page A+678. Volume Terry Schizo. Vegetable Women Guide To Meditation Line 88999444666777000

"Luke, you're a wizard Harry. Bring the triforce to Mt. Doom to defeat Voldesaturon. Because Jesus. And Spider mans parents were killed because you didn't worship a statue at the pedo priests castle at five o clock on thursday. Then we can combine the dragon balls and sacred jewel shards in the horadric cube just as Deckerd Cain instructed us to. Youre my only hope Obi Wan. The resurrection of Carrie Fishers broken coke nail depends on you Dr. iron Man. " - Dumbledore "Fag Actor" Gandalf

>>127172

cringe.pdf? where do I find that one?