/fast/ - Sonic the Hedgehog

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>>15458

>trade or import

Hmm. I think transfer would be the best way to put it. You can move the chao between any supported game but you won't have that one on SA2B and that same chao on Advance 1

Sonic is gay

>>15461

I've actually been meaning to find fan comics worth reading but you guys often save me the trouble of looking. Thank you

>>15461

>Tinggal Apa Lagi Yaa

Okay, that completely blindsided me

>>15458

>is there an actual trade that takes place or do you just import them into SA1/2?

I think it's moreso importing, yeah.

>>15467

Ahhh. I've seen that happen before in fan-comics, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised in that case.

>>15469

If it's what I think it is, it's a move you can use for attack.

I've rarely used it myself, tho

>>15469

Instashield is actually a pretty bad translation from what I remember, in Japanese it's more something like "Wind Attack". So maybe it just increases your attack range?

>>15471

I just went straight into the game without reading anything so I didn't even know what it was called in any language, but it looked so similar to the instashield that I didn't think it was anything else.

>tfw can't bust the spiky flying fishes with not-instashield

>>15472

Oh, alright. Good thing I asked or I would have kept trying to use it and losing all my rings like a fool.

>>15474

Just wait until some low end pc mod comes out like it did for forces

>>15475

I didn't know there was one, given the engine and how it looks I wouldn't have thought one could have been necessary.

>>15476

There's always people using toasters far below the requirements

>given how it looks

looks can be deceiving. textures and models could still be reduced to impact performance

>>15472

>>15473

Since Advance was my first Sonic game I owned, I accepted that it was just an extra ranged attack so they could map something for his second button action. When I played S3&K afterwards, I read the manual that said it gave you invincibility from projectiles when timed just right, but was confused and thought it was an error or something since I didn't understand why they would drop such a perk in a supposedly more "Advance(d)" game. When I got older and more skilled, I then realized what it could do in its original debut which made for a really nice tool in his arsenal and the fact they dropped its invincibility frame in Advance onwards probably did him no favors to people asking "Why would I play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles are basically the same with superior air capabilities?".The original insta-shield was really a good way to distinguish him apart from the other two aside from the acceleration, jump height, and more overt shield powers since it allowed for skilled players to continue unimpeded by enemy attacks when speeding through levels, but I think the drop dash may be more appealing to the layman for speedrunning purposes.

>>15475

This is also news to me.

>>15479

> and the fact they dropped its invincibility frame in Advance onwards probably did him no favors to people asking "Why would I play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles are basically the same with superior air capabilities?

It's this right here, that revealed to me when I can tell someone is talking about the "faults of 2D Sonic" come from, they aren't talking about the classics, they are confusing themselves with the Advance games, assume "if the Advance games did x, then those old ass grandad games must have been worse" so crap like "run into enemies" actually are Advance's faults, not actually the classic games.

I think them retooling the classic physics into the GBA is the real impressive feat they pulled, but everything else being a downgrade in varying places really makes it sad those games might not never get a proper remake they way they deserve to.

>>15480

>>15479

I have always believed that to truly bring Sonic into a modern setting, the player needs to feel like Sonic. I discussed this in the fangame thread before it fucking died but one thing I didn't mention is that if the player wants to feel like Tails, or Knuckles, then the proposed solution of "plays exactly like Sonic just with a few different attributes" is not gonna cut it. When I play vid related, I don't feel like I'm playing as Tails. I feel like I'm playing as Sonic, just with the added ability to fly. And I'm sorry, but taking away the insta-shield and giving him flight is not enough to make Tails stand out as anything other than a Sonic clone. It's not like Luigi, where "Mario except he can jump higher" is literally the complete extent of his shallow character. I think back to Sly 2, with Sly, Bentley and Murray. Murray could shimmy across ledges and do stealth kills and all sorts of crazy stuff with his gadgets, but he couldn't run on wires, he couldn't perch on spires, he couldn't pickpocket, his defense and combat capabilities sucked, basically any of the things that made Sly…well, Sly, just weren't there. You weren't playing as a thieving stealth mastermind, you were playing as a technological genius and that reflected itself in the gameplay. And because of that, none of his missions were suitable for Sly or vice-versa.

Tails can catch up to Sonic better than anybody else can, but that doesn't mean he can blast off at the speed of sound. Why does he need to be as speedy as this video's ideal would have? Why can't he have his own levels that actually use his flight as more than just an easy mode being able to fly over everything, or take the occasional optional route? Why can't his brains actually play a role in the gameplay itself? Give him some gadgets or hell, even weapons, Ratchet & Clank style. I think too many Sonic fans glorify the idea of bringing Mania's multilayered, super-complex level design with multiple routes for every character into 3D with every character playing basically the same. There's no reason to do that when we have advanced past the 16-bit era to allow every character to have their own campaign, story, levels and unique gimmicks to truly make you feel like you embody all the unique strengths of each individual cast member, instead of thinking of them as "different ways to play Sonic".

/rant

>>15481

>Murray could shimmy across ledges and do stealth kills and all sorts of crazy stuff with his gadgets

Meant Bentley, damn it.

>>15481

Nice rant. Imo, on one hand, I've grown rather numb to the 20 years of 3D Sonic, so I'll bite with this direction.

I think making characters play different is great for making said character actually feel like something special. But as a brand, it's became very clear to me over the years that 3D games fail the most when the experience of what a character in a game can do, could either work for the character AND be fun to play, or it doesn't and make the game worse. On one hand, games like Sly, for lack of a better word, are kinda dead nowadays. Unless I'm missing something, what game in the past 5 years had multiple playable gameplay styles (that isn't a spinoff title like Smash Bros), either between characters, or just by themselves? I legit don't see this anymore like I did in the 2000s. I think most people realized when you ask for a mainline game to do x because they want more of x, having the game "share" x with y when people don't like y, is why games like Sonic where Tails don't play like Sonic but with flight, seem to fail. Case in point, why people prefer Sonic 2/Mania Tails over SA2/Heroes Tails. I don't just think its simply "it's kinda janky/buggy/etc so I don't like it", I think just not being what people expect from a series is enough for people to hate it. Even when it's just one character, GoW e.g got flack for having those "balance on wooden planks" so much they removed them from future games. Because people want more of the action packed fighting, not slow platforming sections in a game about killing demons and gods.

Basically, I call it "consistency overrules" syndrome. People genuinely rather have games that actively expects you to play a certain way, to be just as expected so they don't have to handle multiple ways to play. I think the Sly comparison has the one problem of contention, since the only major different between the 3 characters from what I remember was mostly their core abilities, while in general; they still can move around at decent speeds, can platform, and mostly, feel about the same to control, just that all 3 have a special ability the others can't do… which sounds familiar to Sonic and his pals, doesn't it? To me, the problem I feel is this, 2D Sonic is meant to be simply and to the point, while 3D Sonic *has* to be more complex. Or to most, "complicated/convoluted" because it "feels more realistic" or something. Personally, to have multiple characters work, having a "rooted" base for gameplay so controlling them doesn't feel like I'm playing an entirely different game (Big's Fishing, Mechs in SA2, etc), but giving them abilities that actually define their character traits is what I think is needed. Case in point, video related. It gives character special, specific traits that isn't just "replace x with y, leave everything else the same" that the 2D games have to do to work. My only complaint would be if using these unique characters feels forced and unwelcome, instead of seamless and entertaining. Ultimately though, I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time, there's a reason games today barely like to make entirely different playing characters, because it seems most people prefer it this way instead. *shrugs*

>>15483

I'm not advocating for each character being an almost entirely different game. I would never want Tails to control like a mech again, or deal with fishing. But I don't think many fans, if any, complained about Tails and Knuckles's gameplay in SA1. They had similar controls to Sonic, but were very different experiences overall.

>On one hand, games like Sly, for lack of a better word, are kinda dead nowadays. Unless I'm missing something, what game in the past 5 years had multiple playable gameplay styles (that isn't a spinoff title like Smash Bros), either between characters, or just by themselves?

That's not really a fair argument. 3D platformers in general have been dead for a while. Modern game development tends to put you in the reigns of ONE character with one control scheme and one moveset. Even Mario tossed out the tradition of Luigi being playable with Odyssey. Same with Mega Man and Protoman. With how expensive game development is nowadays, there's little to justify having multiple playable characters in the same game, rather than focusing all of your efforts on one character having as diverse a moveset as all of those characters combined. I believe that's why SEGA has stuck to having Sonic be the sole player character until Forces, and not because people bitched and complained about "Sonic's shitty friends".

>I think the Sly comparison has the one problem of contention, since the only major different between the 3 characters from what I remember was mostly their core abilities, while in general; they still can move around at decent speeds, can platform, and mostly, feel about the same to control, just that all 3 have a special ability the others can't do… which sounds familiar to Sonic and his pals, doesn't it?

I recommend you replay it then. Murray for example is a lot heavier so you technically can still platform with him, but it's not as fun or as fluid as with Sly, who's floatier. Sly can't handle the heavier enemies and can die to them in only a few moments so you're supposed to sneak around them or hide when you get spotted, while Murray is perfectly capable of taking on multiple big guys at once. And since he's a lot larger, it's pretty difficult to be stealthy with him since you can't hide under tables and such. Bentley can't even handle the smaller enemies, so getting around in his missions requires actual tactical thought. They all have a similar control scheme and similar ways of moving about the map, but there is absolutely no way you could plop Murray into one of Sly's missions and expect him to get very far. It's not just about not having a special ability, it's about being completely gimped in areas where Sly would excel. And that's my main point: if you can plop Tails into a Sonic level, and he does perfectly fine if not better than Sonic would, then something is wrong. I'm not against similar control schemes as much as I am Sonic not being special. And having an insta-shield with slightly higher top speed is not enough to make him special.

>It gives character special, specific traits that isn't just "replace x with y, leave everything else the same" that the 2D games have to do to work.

Maybe I missed something, but Tails in that video seems to move just as fast as Sonic, he still spindashes, he still does a homing attack, and he still has a "boost"-esque dash. The only differences are that he can fly, do a Rapid Tails Attack, and throw bombs. And while that does open up more unique opportunities for Tails-specific levels, it's still Sonic with a few more abilities piled on top. There's no equivalent exchange in place here, not enough taken away from Sonic's core moveset to justify Tails as a unique mode of play.

>>15479

>it allowed for skilled players to continue unimpeded by enemy attacks when speeding through levels

The instashield is genius, it does a really good job at raising the skill ceiling without ruining or radically altering the rest of the experience and it's really addicting to use when you inderstand how to, and it's also not that hard to master. Really well thought, would have never come up with it myself. I can't believe they only used it in one game (or two, technically) and then ditched it.

>>15485

Imo, I'd easliy say the DKC games easily has the same Sonic syndrome too, albiet, I haven't been able to play TF to know this for sure. But in the originals + Returns, it's basically standard controls between all characters plus one and more unique abilities to make them stand out, like in Diddy's Kong Quest personally. How did Cranky Kong play in TF?

>>15486

Same can be said about the elemental shields too. It's like they knew S3K was never going to be topped proper so they nerf the series intentional and used gimmicks and stories to distract this fact to you.

Given all the recent talk about the Advance games, I'm curious: How would you guys rank the 3 Sonic Advance titles from best to worst?

>>15496

1 > 3 > 2

>>15496

3 >= 1 > 2

>>15489

Whose face is it on the second row, third column?

>>15501

Dr. Phil

>>15503

R-rude

>>15504

Digging these covers, but Sonic's head is a bit freakishly large in the first one

>>15507

I hated that boss as a kid. He's not all that difficult, nowadays, though.

You collect any emeralds, yet?

>>15508

It wasn't difficult after I realized the hitbox of the ice cones was just on the tip of them and you could get on top of them even from below as long as you didn't touch the tip (you don't actually have to jump and land on the top of the cone and then jump again to reach the surface or Eggman).

I only got into a special stage for the first time at this point in the game. I have no idea how I did it, I wasn't doing anything special. Those special stages are going to be a pain.

>>15509

>>15508

Literally, how do you get to the Special Zone in this game? I legit never found out going through Sonic's campaign.

>>15510

One big issue of the Advance games (at least imo), is the asinine gimmicks they had for accessing special stages.

This video should help ya out in terms of finding the spring locations.

>>15514

>like playable Super Sonic

Unfortunately, no. You get a special bossfight as Super Sonic, but that's pretty much it.

Although I think you can play as SS through Action Replay, or something else

>>15516

Wow, really? Why cut out SS in a 2D Sonic game? Are the other Advance games like that, with no unlockable Super Sonic?

I get why 3D Sonic games did that because of how likely he could break the game (albeit that didn't stop Sonic Heroes jacking up the speed variables) but the Advance games, at least the first one, really felt on point to the classic momentum physics.

>>15517

>Are the other Advance games like that, with no unlockable Super Sonic?

Without cheat codes? Yeah

>>15513

My problem is that

>"I like Sonic. Do you like Sonic? I like Sonic."

is the extent of any kind of actual discussion in here. I mean, even that one discussion didn't seem to anywhere past…yeah, 3 posts. I understand being too old for shitposting, but that apparently also comes with "being too old to take this franchise seriously enough to talk about it in a way that isn't ultimately shallow and devoid of meaningful substance".

>>15518

That sucks… Seems bizarre to me they'd remove something like that. But I guess the same could be said about the lack of a working instashield and the elemental shields.

>>15519

So post what you want to talk about, anon. The flawed level design of stage x? The musical superiority of megadrive chiptune? Where did everything go wrong for Sonic as a franchise?

>>15522

No, Mephiles came before him.

How would you rate Advance 1 OST? I need to play it more but so far I have not been impressed at all except for maybe 1 tune.

>>15524

What's a plinkett review?

>>15522

>last mobian shaped villain - mephiles

>last mobian villain born as a mobian - shadow

-last mobian villain born naturally - knuckles

>>15526

>>15524

>"So then Tom pulls out a purple space bazooka."

>>15527

This is so far my favorite pick. The SFX sometimes reminds me of the sounds of the old DOS games through the PC speaker. With how good Sonic music generally is and how big of a platform for chiptunes the gameboy came to be lately, I was expecting a lot better.

>>15527

>>15530

Ice Mountain, Angel Island, Egg Rocket, Cosmic Angel, "Knuckles", and the special stage theme are the only themes from Advance that stick out to me. I love those themes, but the rest of the music is mostly just eh.

>>15519

We do have actual discussions, but you have to realize:

1. This board has a low pop. With any topic, you're not going to have as many people interested in discussing it, and most discussion is going to be slow.

2. Sonic has been discussed to fucking death. It's hard to discuss things when you're probably just going to be repeating what you've already said.

3. We don't get a lot of people that are new to the franchise. The majority of us are pretty experienced when it comes to the series, so it's hard for anyone to teach, learn, or find something new.

There's only so many times you can have the "what I think Sonic should be" discussion, before it gets stale. One can only argue why they think SA2 is amazing/shit for so long before they get tired of it. I'm just thankful we don't get the kind of autists /sthg/ seemed to attract.

https://twitter.com/nefault1st/status/1127170120432877568?s=20

For any Chao lovers in here, Vs Darkness seem to be doing well with them so far.

>>15534

Isn't it more of at not!casino night?

>>15537

The barrel meme came from Carnival Night Zone. You could say in general the level here is more Casino ripoff than not, or a mix of both.

>>15534

kek

>>15535

Sweet. Nice to see fangames picking up on giving Chaofags like me something worthwhile.

>>15540

I think it's only character differences, that's about it. It's like Sonic 2 than it is Sonic 3, where Knuckles get's his special take on the story.

>>15542

Yeah. The other characters (Amy especially) has some differences in how they play compared to Sonic.

>>15540

>not getting all the emeralds and fighting the true final boss

Sonic wouldn't let Eggman get away. Why would you?

>>15546

Don't feel too bad. Sonic Advance's final boss sucks. Not worth it at all.

>>15549

What's funny for me is that my first experence with anything Sonic Advance 2 was Ultimate Flash Sonic and its version of this boss was easy to abuse because they gave you a lot of rings as you kept running. Otherwise it was rather hard when Eggman reached pitch mode.

>>15549

>Sonic Advance 2 boss

You have my condolences, anon.

>>15551

>Ultimate Flash Sonic

Holy shit, the memories.

>>15551

>they gave you a lot of rings as you kept running

I noticed this too with the rest of the Advance 2 bosses, they give you lots of rings on the boss battles. It kind of makes things too easy for the most part but it does let you focus on the boss better which is fun. Also, most of the boss battles have so far been very similar, you just run after Eggman while getting lots of rings and the only things that change are the attacks and the way to defeat him. Wish there was a bit more variety, Advance 1 was much better on this.

>>15553

>>14570

>>15558

Those things you find in the stage is actually the way you access Special Stages to get Chaos Emeralds. You gotta find 7 of them in each stage. Get all the Emeralds with every character in the game & you unlock another character.

Wait until you get to Techno Base & you try to collect those things

>>15559

I realized given a few of the other posts. I didn't know there were 7 of them in a stage, damn.

>Get all the Emeralds

>with every character

That's really overboard.

>spoiler

I can believe you, I got tired of Sky Canyon's bullshit and I'm taking a rest.

>>15461

>>15464

Dunno where you found it, but you better hope he doesn't file a DMCA, he's charging no less than 2 dollars for this:

https://gumroad.com/l/JJkA

https://www.youtube.com/user/hunnidP

>>15562

>charging money for an unfinished mess

>>15565

haha well meme'd my friend

Just a little fun post.

>>15562

If he finds it maybe he could realize the balloon he forgot to translate and fix it, or ask for help with a more accurate translation. But filing a DMCA claim would be funny since I doubt he has a license to make these, so this is not so different to what he's doing (though we're not making money out of other people's properties and he is) and he's just as liable to a claim.

>>15572

Kek. But what if they used to buy you Sonic stuff?

>>15571

Those are some nice cards, but that makes me wonder: Does Sonic even have a mother?

>>15575

Are you asking if he just, one day, sprouted from the ground?

>>15576

Well, nah. Moreso I'm just curious if SEGA ever really thought about the cast's parents outside of Cream.

>>15576

Sonic confirmed for a pineapple and a fake hedgehog?

>>15577

Of course not.

>>15583

Not actual ones unfortunately. I’m waiting for TSR so I can play with whoever wants to play with me.

>>15589

We already had Forces.

You need more than that to make it worth it. Or moreso, that itself wouldn't really be the selling point, just "it's a good game" would be. That's just a bonus.

>>15582

Hello!

>>15584

>>15585

I think I have a few of characters wearing hoodies of other characters.

>>15588

There's been a few developments of Steam emulators that work for online play with pirated versions. Maybe you could try that.

>>15591

>>15585

Which Tekno is the proper way to draw her face?

>>15592

Well tbh there's Forces Battle? It's something. Limited, but something.

I feel like the reason this isn't in mainline games because Sonic Team can't get the main game being good enough to waste time doing other things now.

>>15595

Oops, meant for >>15594

So… Did 4chan suddenly die that we got this influx of posts?

>>15588

I’ve been keeping occupied with Mario Kart until then when I get the itch to play a racer. I don’t know too many people who want to play so I just kinda handle with solo online play. I’m hoping here or /other places/ would be kind enough to participate.

>>15599

It's probably because of the terrible state of the general over there. Threads are bumped solely by shitposters (or A shitposter with a lot of free time)

t. I post on both sites

>>15599

It didn’t, it’s just slow right now. I just wanted to say hi and that I missed you guys.

>>15600

Same boat. That's why I had to ask.

>>15602

>Threads are bumped solely by shitposters

Sounds familiar.

>>15603

>4/sthg/

>slow

Odd.

>>15604

I sometimes lurk here anyway. I’d have to think about what to post.

>>15606

Well it is very very early afternoon and a Monday.

When did we first hear about the Sonic movie being in production?

>>15611

I believe SEGA revealed it back in 2014, when Sony was still working on the movie originally.

>All these new posts

Nice. Welcome & enjoy your stay, anons!

>>15613

Yup. IIRC, that Van dude also tried to learn as much as he could about the Sonic series, playing the games as well as posting on message boards like SSMB, interacting with the fanbase directly.

Damn shame all of that was for nothing, since he got booted off the project shortly before it went to Paramount.

>>15614

His ambitions were good, but I don't know if his and Evan Susser 's writing talents would be all that good, judging from their sole project, Fist Fight. In fact, that's what pisses me off the most. In both Sony's and Paramount's plans for the film(s), the writers are all shit.

>>15616

What are you talking about? It's the only film they've ever wrote, and it's shit. Being a fan of something doesn't mean you can write better than before, and it doesn't mean you can write something good.

>>15615

It may not have been all that good, but I do think that at least they would've had at least a bit more of an idea than what we're getting now.

He seemed pretty adamant in making sure the film wouldn't have been another Smurfs/Chipmunks type of movie.

>>15617

>. Being a fan of something doesn't mean you can write better than before,

This. I mean come on, just because fans made Mania, doesn't mean every Sonic fan is as good, if good at all. Kishimoto and other Sonic Team staff are 'fans' of Sonic, doesn't mean they make the stuff the overall fanbases wants, although, this is a gray area within itself. The only thing that would have been the case with Sony's Sonic would have been the first leaked image of him would have retroactively been far better then Movie Sonic today, like always. Like, this happens all the time, something "isn't good enough" then someone else fucks it up even more, only for people to ask for the shit they bashed to come back.

I remember people did this same thing and used Boom Sonic as the retroactive design, which before that, was Modern Sonic when Sonic Boom was revealed.

>>15613

Damn, that's a really nice recap anon, brings back a lot of memories. I remember that poster, it was fun when leaks like that happened and allowed us to speculate and dream (even if that's kind of a mistake), and it's been so boring after they stopped happening and things slowed down.

>I fucking wish we got a new Sonic game in 2015

I fucking wish we got a CG animated film.

>>15614

>that Van dude also tried to learn as much as he could about the Sonic series, playing the games as well as posting on message boards like SSMB

I was going to mention something about this regarding >>15598 since sometimes like with Van and even Potanc/Graff (and I'm pretty sure there are other examples), people that are supposed to create stuff for the franchise are given nothing to work with and they have to make due with what's publicly available. What the hell. I will never understand how Sega is sometimes so anal about how characters are depicted (see the comics, the bibles for merchandise and packaging) but some other times they just completely throw the towel (Boom, the movie, etc.) and don't give a shit.

>>15615

I never understood why nobody had issues with this fact when he was revealed as the writer. Maybe it was just because of him giving them attention and showing himself as friendly to the fanbase/franchise? Also the guy sounds like a lunatic judging from his Twitter after he got distanced from the movie, lol.

If Sonic's power is speed, Tails' power is flight/intelligence, and Knuckles power is strength, what is Amy's power? Since I'm probably going to get nothing but shitposts in response to this, I'll bite and say Amy's power is determination/tenacity. Once she's got a hold of something, she won't let it go unless she's forced to let it go. Not just literally, but metaphorically. If something needs to be done, and no one else can do it, she'll jump on it. And if she's incapable of doing it, she'll force herself to become capable of doing it.

>>15621

Amy doesn't have a special power. At most, she's just fast like a lot of other characters.

>>15621

That sounds about right. Her hammer packs some punch, but her biggest defining feature seems to be her passion & determination. Whether it's her feelings for Sonic, the faith she has in other characters or anything else, you never really see Amy not wear her heart on her sleeve.

In terms of specific power, she doesn't really have one outside of the Piko Piko I guess, but that sorta makes her the proverbial "heart" of the team.

>>15625

Saw the news, was thinking of posting some footage but got lazy. Here's the final trailer for it. Looks a bit awkward in my opinion. Not sure how good of an idea it is to release so close to TSR.

>>15621

She's meant to have magically powers. But since SEGA doesn't like to use it all the time, her trait is determination. She's basically Mario when the magical side lay dormant.

>>15628

>meant to have magical powers

lol no. She has idle interest, but she's never shown any active display of magical powers in the games or anything relating to them.

>>15631

> in the games or anything relating to them.

She does in Sonic 06 and the Black Knight. The ability to turn invisible.

Also I think in Sonic Battle. Again she doesn't use them much. She was always meant to have it since CD, SoJ just don't focus on it like many things the cast used to do like Knuckles guarding the ME.

>>15633

>06

An outlier with little introduction or presence since.

>Black Knight

Simply a counterpart. Knuckles is not a sailor, and Knuckles, Shadow, Blaze, Jet, and Silver aren't swordsmen.

>Battle

Not an ability; just a hallucination from Amy. Amy even suggests that she was imagining.

Amy was never hinted to have magical powers in CD's Japanese manual outside of an interest in tarot cards and dowsing, which was promptly abandoned once Adventure came out.

>>15635

Well, I thought it was something that actually something SEGA once did pushed in some places, but whatever, it's not that big of a deal. As far as it's concern then, she doesn't have powers. Honestly, most of the cast kinda doesn't I guess, outside of Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver and Blaze.

>>15637

Espio has camouflage. That's basically a power.

>>15638

I guess. But going by the initial question above, I thought it was "super power" kind of traits.

>>15632

>Sky Canyon boss

It doesn't get easier

>>15635

>which was promptly abandoned once Adventure came out

At least until those Sonic Channels comics, which oddly brought it back.

>>15640

>second spoiler

I don't think anyone would get really angry about it, mainly because it seems that the whole comic can be taken comedically.

The OST for tsr has been leaked. Here's the full version of Green Light ride

>>15646

I knew the street date was going to break, but I didn't think it'd be this soon.

>>15646

So how can this be played and are there videos available of the game?

>>15648

This vid has been floating around. I've got no clue about how this guy got the game.

>>15648

The game released early in certain areas. One guy released the full version of Green Light Ride, and there are some videos of TSR's courses. It doesn't seem like there are any options such as toggling the minimap, first/third-person view, or voices, at least not on the Switch version.

Here's the loading music. A nice, atmospheric remix of Green Light Ride.

Here's Shadow's Team Ultimate. It's a remix of All Hail Shadow by Crush 40.

More details about TSR on Switch:

Might be 1080p docked

30 fps docked (don't worry, every other console runs at 60)

Sonic's Team Ultimate. A remix of Reach for the Stars.

Blaze's Team Ultimate. A remix of Vela Nova.

Some more details about the game:

Almost all of the non-course tracks are Green Light Ride remixes

Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are the only unlocked characters at the start of the game, but Amy, Chao, and Big are unlocked shortly afterwards, presumably through Team Adventure

Tails' Team Ultimate. A remix of Sonic Adventure 2's Believe in Myself.

Chao's Team Ultimate. A remix of Sonic Adventure 2's Chao Race against (I think) a Jewel Chao.

In the off chance SEGA C&D these leaked videos, maybe you should just link to the leakers channel instead of …spaming… the thread. Just in case all of these end up dead links.

>>15659

Not him but I hope they last until I can listen to them later today ;_;

Sorry for spamming the general. I just got excited a bit.

>>15662

It's good. I just thought of the chance all of this got deleted everyone that was late to the party would be confused with all the dead links. So get them while it's hot I guess kek.

>>15661

Thanks anon. Appreciated.

>>15661

>game rip of every sound in the game

Jesus Christ that was fast. To think it's still a full week until it actually releases.

>from internal demo cartridge/music reel

>composed by David Javelosa (c) 1993

>unused out take!!

>>15650

>first/third-person view

How often has that ever been an option in kart racers?

>>15667

Don't know about kart racers, but it has been a feature in a lot of regular racers. I know it's in Mario Kart 7, though.

>>15672

Street dates being broken have happened with plenty of other Sonic games and plenty of other franchises.

>>15649

>Sonic slides off the road on to the grass

>"I wish I was driving a lawnmower"

Kek

>>15650

>or voices

Seems like there's a volume slider for the voices so you could mute them completely or at least muffle them.

>>15674

Good point. I guess that commentor might have been wrong, then.

>>15666

Oh hey, he delivered after all! Quite a catchy tune.

>>15673

Yeah, I guess you're right, but with that particular event still fresh in mind I couldn't help but to associate them. Both happened on Switch too.

Story mode leaks

>>15689

I think he's just speaking a little softer, that's all.

>>15689

I heard it's a new VA. The Boom Knuckles resigned his role after Forces iirc.

>>15692

>Boom Knuckles

He voiced Knuckles 4 years before Boom was even a thing.

>>15694

I know, since Free Riders. I just used Boom Knuckes as the most recognized appearance, since no one seriously remembers Free Riders and he only had like one line in Generations. Boom was the only time Knuckles had more than 5 lines of dialog next to Forces.

>>15696

What a stupid train of thought.

>>15696

>YTMND is kill

F. At least some of the Sonic Sez vids may still be up on YT

>>15696

Never went there myself, didn't know it was so popular with anons and that so many still felt so strongly about the site.

Who do you think it is?

>>15710

Hmm

Maybe some reveal event? I can't imagine it'd be for a game, but I can see them announcing some merch & promotional tie-ins, or something.

>>15711

No, each month they give a hint for the character featured in the next month's Sonic wallpaper, and that video is the current hint they just posted.

>>15712

Oh. I'm an idiot, my bad

It looks like Sonic, tbh

>>15716

hot

>>15715

That's a very comfy pic

>>15731

>25 extra lives as a pre-order bonus

Ya know, this has got me wondering: Why hasn't SEGA tried to put out some bigger DLC material for Sonic games? Until Mania/Forces, the DLC content for the series has been mostly lacking

>>15732

Sonic Lost World had good DLC content, for what that's worth.

>>15733

Probably the best dlc content any Sonic game has had so far, Plus being second

>>15736

Really? I actually thought it looked cool. Well, color wise I don't really like it, but design wise I love it. One of the best techno theme levels in Sonic, compared to the shite like in ShTH.

>>15737

It doesn't look that bad in the picture but when it's animated, specially when that weird burst of energy happens and fills the background with graphic noise that moves all the time, it's just too distracting and random and not particularly pretty, so it kind of annoys me. It also bothers me that it doesn't seem to have a definite style like most other zones… it's just too abstract for me.

>>15738

I can see what you mean. Which is sadly something I feel effects most of the Advance games the most, most of the limitations being on such a small screen with not a lot of depth control like the Genesis games had the power to do (even better done in Mania) that it makes me earn for a remake of the game with modern day conventions.

>>15739

Some of the depth effects in the Genesis games were really impressive. But I think something as wacky as this would still look bad even on a Genesis.

>>15744

I was wondering what had happened to them.

>>15744

Oh nice, Gemerl will be able to fight the infected without getting infected himself. Sonic's not looking too good though.

>>15744

I wonder what Gemerl's personality will be like in IDW. Doubt it'll be as lively as Archie's

https://twitter.com/Johjoh45/status/1129119955805511681?s=20

>>15750

>Thinking about buying Forces.

Why?

>Anyone here know if there's any differences between digital versions?

PC will at least get you what mods exist.

>>15753

These are all good picks. What else is even left?

>>15753

>Based Vectorman

Sold

Mega Man Wily Wars being a part of this is also interesting.

>>15755

Saved. Thanks for sharing, anon!

>>15755

>stared at thumbnails of both trying to spot the differences

>didn't realize second image was a video till I clicked it

Alrighty then. Anyway, this is great! It's always nice to see an artist's proccess. Thanks for sharing!

>>15753

>Wily Wars

One of the last things I expected.

>Wonder Boy

Nice. Now I hope the last batch included Monster World IV.

>>15757

>>15758

Sure, any time anons.

>>15754

Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

>>15750

As with anything, the Switch version is shit but portable, and the PC version has mod support.

>>15762

>>15754

This guy too. Holy shit that OST, I became familiar with it recently and I can't for the life of me stop listening to it.

>>15763

Shows mostly positive for me, and it's a very low number of reviews anyway. But to strictly answer the question then probably won't play it.

>>15767

>>15767

do japs even get translated idw comics?

>>15771

Hesse is the only artist I've seen who actually does the green eyes like they should, imo. You can't tell from a distance that his eyes are green: his irises aren't 5 times the size of his pupil. They don't look out of place here like they do in other art where the green sticks out like a sore thumb.

>>15773

Can agree 100%. Even something like how Nintendo does with Toon Link would work as well, but what makes it work is because it's not so in your face, its an extra, not the feature. Something SEGA just don't know how to do, is subtlity. They always force the newest addition to Sonic in your face. That's likely why the whole "green eyes" thing happen nearly 20 years ago, while no one made a big deal when "classic" Sonic had brown tinted eyes at one point (which Mania brought back)

I just played a bit over an hour of it. It's good, but disappointing. The core gameplay and controls are great, but there's like five powers, not counting base Fark, and all the bosses, so far, fall to the same "spam attack and occasionally parry" strategy.

>>15776

Meant for >>15763

/fast/ would you get upset with me if I said I don’t really care about Riders’ story and I like Mario Kart and I’ll probably enjoy TSR for its gameplay?

>>15780

No. It's not that serious.

>I don't really care about Riders story

That's fine too. Many people skip or don't pay attention to the story in games.

>>15781

It’s just that to my memory I didn’t find it all that interesting. I usually like stories though in other Sonic games but I just want to pay attention to the gameplay because well… it’s a kart racer.

Please take me in your care.

>>15782

>I didn't find it all that interesting

Hmm, well that's what you felt as you played it. It didn't pull you in like other Sonic stories and that's fine. If you're having fun or trying to have fun, isn't that all that matters?

>>15783

Oh there you are Greet-anon. I missed you.

I don’t think I have any plans Sonic wise. I’m still just waiting for TSR. I’ve been listening to some music though, checking on Instagram over some cosplays.

I’m just trying to find a job for the first time and I’m getting a trial one due to a facility that helps people like me try them out and then they’ll help me. And then I’ll use some a little bit of what I earned for my merchfaggotry aha

>>15784

That’s what I was thinking but I also don’t want to promote mediocracy either..

>>15785

>waiting for TSR

That's coming out in a few days, right? It's still not available digitally for PlayStation yet.

>trying to find a job for the first time

Ganbatte anon! Are you excited?

>>15780

>/fast/ would you get upset with me

Only in a teasing manner.

>>15783

Good morning anon. I'll be trying to finish my Advance 2 playthrough on Saturday and maybe give the first one a quick replay too because I already have kind forgotten it. Other than that I have faggy normal activities planned with other people for the rest of the weekend.

>I'm going to be playing these games

That's a lot of vidya, have fun! Wish I had that kind of time.

>Can you guess which ones?

You do realize it says in the image right?

>>15788

>spoiler

Not quite. Recently played means I started the game up. I could have gone as far as the title screen and never pushed start.

>>15785

>checking on Instagram over some cosplays

Found any cool Sonic ones?

>And then I’ll use some a little bit of what I earned for my merchfaggotry

That's always cool, good luck on your job hunt and make sure to post what things you get.

>>15789

Could be. First row still sounds plausible, though.

>>15787

>>15790

Very nervous actually. My first time! I’m fortunate to have a program help me try out. But whatever I see and get, I’d love to show it to everyone. I’m on a mission to Sonicfy my bag.

I was actually looking at Sonic cosplays. I thought hardly anyone would cosplay as Sonic characters but there’s quite a few people who do. That makes me happy though.

>>15788

That’s fair. I get a lot of tease anyway, I’m used to it. That’s a relief though.

>>15775

was there any other merchandise shown on the stream?

>>15790

I'll give you a hint to help guess which ones

One of the Sega games in the top row I have never played before

>>15791

>Very nervous actually. My first time!

Hope you're lucky and end up in a good one. It's tricky, and it can be bad when they're not (specially for the first one), but it's possible. Currently posting from work myself, kek

>I’m on a mission to Sonicfy my bag.

Your call but you might want to keep your powerlevel hidden.

>>15792

Yes, there were Sonic and Shadow RC cars which looked pretty cool, a tabletop Sonic game, and Genesis USB controllers that work with current platforms and also will work with the Genesis Mini.

>>15796

Isn't Love Live also owned by Sega?

>>15796

Idk by owned but SEGA contributes to a lot of merch to certain series like idol games. Sonic has collab with Love Live several times before.

>>15798

>>15797

https://twitter.com/Cybrid101/status/1129390991893520385?s=20

It's good

Performance test of Team Sonic Racing on PS4 and PS4 pro

>>15801

That's good, though those rating's are more like average aren't they?

>>15795

You just wanted to post that picture didn't you

>>15803

Well considered how IGN gave such a high score considering Sonic's… recent publicity, it's interesting none the less.

>>15803

On one hand, yes, to give an legitimate answer to his post

On the other hand, very yes because I'm hopeless for NiGHTS

>>15795

>>15805

You are ____correct

I never had that system or knew it had a ps3 port till now. Looking forward to playing it later

>>15806

Reminds me of how Rush Adventure got a slightly higher rating (or censored, can't remember) because of Marine's aussie slang talk

Anyone here with a Switch or Xbone? Is TSR available in the digital stores for those platforms?

>>15810

I think they mentioned on the stream yesterday that there were no digital preorders for one reason or another and that the game would go on sale for digital copies at midnight PST on launch day, or something like that.

>>15813

Have you played Robo Blast 2 anon? They have the special stages work like NiGHTS into Dreams gameplay. Maybe you could try those out too

>Filename

oh no… don't do this to me…

I um… hello

>>15815

Hello there anon! What Sonic-related hijinks are you up to tonight?

>>15816

Nothing atm. I think I'm just waiting for TSR to come out tbh.

School is almost over too, might finally be able to play Sonic Mania Plus.

>>15816

Not him but…

Sorry for the commentary, but this shit kinda hyped me up to play this

>>15821

No problem, are you new to the board?

>>15823

Yes.

>>15813

I really enjoyed playing the first NiGHTS game earlier this year. I wonder how much Iizuka wishes he could make another game.

>>15800

Can I have more CGI pls Sega?

>>15827

Nice

No joke, Dreams of an Absolution may be in my top 3 favorite character themes

>>15835

>What I'm Made Of

God yes, that song fucking rules. I forget, did SEGA ever do an official remix for it?

>>15834

To sum it up, the purpose of Marine is to be the Tails to Blaze's Sonic, as you mentioned. Her water powers were never really expanded on ** mostly because she didn't make any major appearances in the franchise after Rush Adventure.

>>15836

Well, there's the 2007 mix with better balancing, drums and whatnot. It doesn't sound any different at first, but once you listen to them back to back you can't go back. They did a similar one for Live & Learn. Rumor has it they were meant to be the versions in SSBB, but cut for some reason

>>15836

I gotta play the Rush games. Are ds emulators decent enough for that?

>>15838

I hope so because I was also planning on giving them a play soon.