/f1/ - Formula One

>>20775

Possibly. But I don't think the FIA would set a precedent that their measurements are anything but 100% accurate

>once again, refer to Ricciardo's fuel flow meter in Australia 2014

please let it be a DQ

imagine the amount of 'bestfans' threatening to break their F1 2015 discs

>Mercedes' official theme for the 2015 Italian GP

>Williams' Pat Simmons mentioning that low tire pressure is no different than running a few extra CC on their engine

:^)

>>20751

>Running illegally low tire pressure is no different than running a 2L engine

Here comes Ted to tell us a whole lot of nothing.

>>20782

But mostly, if there's a DQ this is going to be memed to death, and we need more fresh memes.

>>20783

kek

>The FIA hasn't posted the top speed for the front straight, only for intermediates

>http://www.fia.com/file/33122/download?token=HKIxKy02

This makes judging my autistic contest difficult

Is the post race still going on?

They are trying to find literally anything that could save Hamilton.

>>20788

Spygate in 2007 as well

>>20793

Yessir it is, controversy abounds

TY for the great board btw Captain Burgermeister

>>20793

Yeah, it's about Lewis, so they'll go for hours…

Might as well start the stream.

>>20793

its gonna be a while, around 40 more minutes.

>>20796

Thank you

>>20797

http://cytu.be/r/8chanF1

starting

>>20796

If you want to draw out Berger, don't bother waiting until he namefags, just call Mikey Andretti shit

:^)

time to shower, save some meme arrows for me when the FIA confirm the result

inb4 it'sfuckingnothing.jpg

>>20800

won't work. I'm one of ~3 people that loves to make fun of michael.

>>20790

Maybe someone with F1 Access can check on the website? I would get a month to check it out (it's only 3€) but it doesn't accept PayPal and my bank uses a shit validation system for online purchases that never works

>>20802

Hmm perhaps I have you confused with someone else

Or perhaps this is a clever ruse

Hamilton sounds like he's gonna start crying about the tyre pressure.

>.3 not enough

>1 is enough

NO I'M INNOCENT LET ME JUST THROW MY TEAMMATE TO THE WOLVES

>>20805

Well the rules apply to everyone. They all managed to keep to them.

Aw fuck it, He'll blame it on racism.

Saw a twitter post saying Niggerton was rude to Pinkham on the grid pre-race, anyone have any idea what they're on about?

>>20808

He had his hat on during the minute silence for Wilson

Maybe she told him to take it off and he told her to fuck off.

>Not the news you want to hear.

Oh no it is not the news we want to hear at all…

Pat Symonds saying it should be DSQ

Ant gets a lot of hate, but at least he has a faint idea of what he's talking about. It's very different from Crofty

>>20812

Croft makes anyone look like a well informed tech genius.

>>20813

It's really frustrating listening to them spout their bullshit, knowing that most fans are too lazy to look up info themselves and are too stupid to have any technical knowledge in the first place.

It's entirely possible that the Honda engine does have as much, possibly a few HP more than the Renault engine (though I doubt it). The ICE is only one part of the new power units. It's well known that the Honda's main weakness is the shit energy recovery and deployment.

> Alonso said: "On a circuit that has six corners, on the GPS, we lose two or three tenths in those corners.

"The rest of the three seconds, we need to find on the straights."

>Hondurr

Lol Vettel rude as fuck to pinkham.

pinks missed her opportunity to banepost

>people actually hate Felipe Massa

Come watch some CART

http://cytu.be/r/8chanF1

if you are watching ted's notebook.

thats how you take a selfie with someone doing live TV.

quick and smooth.

>>20778

>I imagine the FIA measure within a smaller margin.

>If i dig through the FIA documents I can probably find said margin

So Ham's tire pressure is 0.3psi below the lower limit of 19.5psi, which equates to 1.5%.

It looks like most gauges measure to that accuracy and I assume the FIA uses one of the most accurate classes so Merc is fucked in that respect.

https://www.festo.com/wiki/en/Pressure_gauges#Accuracy_class

Just confirmed that two GP2 drivers have been disqualified after their tires were found to be under pressure

>>20823

Quality post

>>20823

I would go through the FIA documents but that is both frustrating and depressing.

Also I'm stalking everyone Emilia follows on Instagram and found a video of her speaking english so I clearly have better things to do.

>>20826

noice

>>20831

cheeky

>>20831

Oh shit

>>20831

Rekt

>>20835

You have to be fucking kidding me?

>>20835

wow, what a fucking prick, how embarrassing

>>20835

>what are context clues

https://twitter.com/TypicalHamFan

All those unavailable tweets

>tard shaming

doing gods work

>>20835

>Even Will Stevens is less of a prick than Hamilton

He is really trying hard at being the least likeable World Champion ever.

>>20840

Jesus is smiling at him.

FUUUUUUUUCK no further action from the stewards.

it's fucking nothing

>no penalty

What a load of horseshit

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE

And that's the championship over with. Don't even know if I'll bother watching any practices or qualifying sessions for the rest of the year

Mitch Evans and one other driver was excluded from results in the GP2 sprint race today. Hamilton gets away completely free

GG FIA

There was no point to any of it.

Can other teams appeal this?

>>20849

bet you Mercedes brokered some kind of deal to get it.

>>20852

Sucked some Bernie cock.

So reading what the stewards said, Mercedes didn't actually do anything wrong and the tyres were the correct pressure when fitted.

>>20819

Felipe massa is a beta faggot manlet

>>20854

Yeah

at least we go some drama out of ir.

>Hamilton not penalized

RIGGED AS FUCK.

>>20859

The pressure was correct when the tyre was fitted. Not Hamilton's fault the FIA can't into ideal gas law.

>Jenson Button

>“I had a good start, and took some cars into Turn One. The whole first lap was good - there were a lot of incidents, and I think I got up into ninth.

>“Then, unfortunately, I just waited for the other cars to come by. It was a bit difficult out there, because the other drivers were overtaking me in places that I didn’t previously think were possible

Toppest kek

>>20861

suicide watch boois.

>>20861

Their new slogan should be something like "open your mind", because with McLaren Honda, you have the opportunity to live things you never thought possible.

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-288154.html

Dennis and co rumored to be pushing for Arai to be fired.

Has anyone been on gp rejects recently? Its fucking pathetic. The IRC is just cancerous dweebs complaining that formula e isn't overtaking formula 1 in popularity. For a site that used to be called f1 rejects and known for its technical insight, this is really a new low.

>>20866

Pace over reliability. Mclaren wants a fast car; Arai is more concerned with one that can clock in mileage.

>>20835

Listening to music? Look at the photo here >>20779

There is no ear buds, no headphones, no wires. There's nothing in his ears or head. Not any wireless devices.

What a load of shit.

>>20870

Yeah you're right. He's just a fucking prick.

Where do you think Gimi would have placed if it wasn't for the fuck up at the beginning? I'd put him in a solid 2nd, closely behind Hamilton, based on his aggression and lap times during the race.

>>20872

I'm going with second as well, his pace was good except for the catastrophic start. Funny kimi is a mediocre qualifier, but he's gotten little out of the last 2 times he qualified in the top 3.

>>20872

I'd say second, but maybe behind Vettel. Ferrari's strategy for the race could have been to have both cars drafting and DRSing each other to catch Mercedes. If they had made this work, they could have probably caught Hamilton. They just needed a good start to keep Rosberg behind so Mercedes couldn't do the same.

>>20860

What do the rules actually say? Because my impression is that it's the other way around.

If the rules say the cars can't race at pressure below manufacturer specs it's up to the teams to compensate when measuring on hot tires.

>>20876

According to this article they were explicitly forbidden before the race from doing what they then actually did. But its hamham so whatever, lol.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pirelli-warns-teams-not-to-flout-tyre-pressure-rules

>Pirelli has warned F1 teams that they cannot allow the pressures to drop below the prescribed minimum limit after cars leave the pits during the Italian GP.

>>20876

>what do the rules say

It's a technical directive, not a regulation. So there isn't a rule in a strict sense. This is also why they didn't have a procedure in place that takes temperature into account when measuring the pressure.

>Having heard from the technical delegate, the team representatives and the Pirelli Team Tyre engineer, the stewards have determined that the pressure in the tyres concerned were at the minimum start pressure recommended by Pirelli when they were fitted to the car.

>Further, the stewards are satisfied that the team followed the currently specified procedure, supervised by the Tyre Manufacturer, for the safe operation of the tyres. Therefore the stewards decide to take no further action.

>>20877

>hurr durr conspiracy

Your article is from before the race started so I don't see its relevance. What exactly did Mercedes do? Pirelli supervised inflation of the tyre and verified it was above the minimum. Tyres will cool when they sit on the grid with the warmers off and pressures will go down. The laws of physics do not care about poorly thought out FIA technical directives.

>>20878

>It's a technical directive, not a regulation. So there isn't a rule in a strict sense.

:^)

>>20762

>>20882

>that meerkat webm

its fucking adorable.

man i was so close.

11kph over.

"close"

>Red Bull/STR don't use Renault engines for 2016

>Since no one is using them, they get one full year of unrestricted development

>Alonso goes back to Renault works team in 2017

>Wins one last championship before retiring

Full circle

>>20878

>Your article is from before the race started so I don't see its relevance.

The article says they were told "Do not let your tires drop below minimum pressure when you've left the pits (for example by your tires cooling down to race temperature)" before the race and you do not see a relevance when they fail to do so?

>The laws of physics are something Mercedes are aware of and it's their own fault if they don't compensate for them.

Fixed this for you.

>>20885

>Romain gets a sloppy seconds 2018 championship

I would cum so hard

>>20880

Gimi DDDD:

So is there any official story on what exactly happened here? Dammit Kimi…

>>20890

This being his excuse for not removing his hat.

>>20890

>Listening to my music

>my music

He's obviously listening to his own music in his mind, he's composing some songs at that very moment. You don't need earphones for that.

Or he's so focused he doesn't even realize he's got nothing on

>Nico's retirement in Monza is pivotal to his championship chances. Even if he pulls it together and wins all of the remaining races with Lewis finishing 2nd, Hamilton wins the WDC by 4 points.

>>20896

Those mercedes trucks are fucking awesome.

>>20897

>Liking the g wagon

A car that shifted from being a utilitarian vehicle to the ultimate expression of classless new money trash

>>20880

I give this event 4 out of 5 wobblers. The ferrari relative to the merc is much better that the jag was relative to the ferrari. Plus Raikkonen managed to build himself back to 5th while webber, im pretty sure, just gave up that race.

>>20896

>tfw france will never have another WDC

>>20898

To be fair if I was going through Mexico I would want something big with 6 wheels.

Really I would prefer it as a a half track for that kinda job.

>>20897

There are better ways to show off than something this big and stupid.

>>20900

To be fair, there is no longer a French team in f1, and when there were French f1 teams, they, or their drivers threw it away. Renault nearly gave prost the championship on 2 occasions but wouldn't give him a control to limit boost, so when the car blew up in Austria 82, that was the end. Ligier won the first 3 races of 1979 and then wasn't a professional enough team to find out what went wrong and return Jacques laffite to the front.

Peugeot made shit f1 engines and kept blaming the teams they supplied for the poor performance (sound familiar?)

French drivers, just like Italian drivers are not usually picked by teams that aren't of their nationality because they are not known for consistency. Also f1 is basically all British.

>>20901

Get a deuce and a half or an actual halftrack, the us army surplus ones are pretty cheap.

>>20903

Agreed.

>>20904

Barring prost of course. Who was probably one of the most consistent drivers ever.

Gary Hartstein is being hounded by the FIA and Todt again for:

>Insulting and defamatory comments of the FIA, its president and your fellow doctors responsible for medical safety

https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-cvc-fom-bernie-the-lot-of-them/

Remember we cannot insult the great leader Jean Todt otherwise he will send his lawyer round.

>>20906

I read this before.

>And the cars – brand new, beautiful machines with power trains that are stunning in their sophistication. Is there anything REALLY wrong at all?

What is he smoking? I usually respect his comments, but to act as if only the tracks, the method of hosting events, and medical procedure are the only problems with f1, much less to call the cars beautiful in the year of the dicknose (anno dicknose) is truly delusional.

>>20906

>Remember we cannot insult the great leader Jean Todt otherwise he will send his lawyer round.

Certainly they're interfering with his god given right to bitch about a former employer, but stick to what you know Gary.

>>20907

I just realised I copied the wrong link

https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/round-2-of-get-gary-jeans-after-me-again/

>>20898

dude its fucking big, badass, looks cool as fuck and has so much space inside.

also can almost double as a boat.

its fucking great.

>>20903

>france doesn't like big things

go figure, when your country is so small it can enter 7 times in Mexico's bigger state you are bound to like small things. lol

>>20909

>Sid Watkins, Max Mosley, and all the others who worked so hard to make, and keep, this sport safe.

Emphasis mine. More and more Hartstein is seeming like an angry holdover from the previous (and equally terrible) administration.

When it was just about how they handled Bianchi, that seemed to be legitimate criticism. And while Todt and the fia are pricks for lawyering up, Hartstein cannot stop opening his mouth to spew more "unpopular opinions" a la reddit. Being contrarian for the sake of legitimizing his bitching.

>>20910

Or you could get a jeep cj10 or a deuce and a half, or an actual halftrack or a Volvo sugga, or a Mercedes unimog, or a pinzgauer, or a humvee. All of which are real bug out vehicles.

>>20912

Or an international mxt

>>20913

>>20912

you are of those those weirdos into military vehicles aren't you?

find me one with AC and a good sound system.

>>20910

calm down jose. i know you'll need a car like that to avoid getting killed by the burrito cartel but for some british nigga that is overkill

>>20914

mod that bitch. niggas have been installing sound systems in shitboxes since the dawn of car sound systems, and aftermarker AC systems are probably doable.

>>20914

>you are of those those weirdos into military vehicles aren't you?

No, I just happen to know alternatives to being a new money nigger.

Honestly the desert variants of these vehicles probably have ac.

>>20918

That actually looks pretty good.

>>20920

Renault has quit and come back to f1 more times than any other manufacturer. I dont see how they're entitled to continuity payments like Ferrari is.

Also Joe saward is a lying twat

>>20922

What incentive would he ever have to do that? If Renault buys lotus, grosjean has an instant in because he has been sponsored by total, if Renault does not buy lotus, the team has just received maldonado's 50m and will be able to limp along faster than Haas.

The only reason grosjean would sign with lotus is that he has an American fetish from riding his Harley Davidson.

>>20923

Sign with Haas I mean.

>>20923

I think it's if the renault buyout falls through, which would mean lotus would need to keep pastor

>>20925

shit premature posting

haas over non-bought lotus would be about the ferrari train afaict

>>20925

They'd keep grosjean anyway because grosjean and his ~5 mil isn't that bad. Unless you're suggesting that Palmer, pic, or Nicolas prost buys the seat.

>>20926

That would be a stupid move on grosjean's part, but for all his bitching last year about "wanting to go to a big team" there's an air of possibility.

>>20903

The only people who i know buy those are new money trash who dont understand fuel economy.

>>20918

>>20917

If were talking about big cars, tatra (trucks, i know) are fucking amazing.

>>20929

Those people bother me in a very similar way to the hybrid evangelists who think that hybrids get better fuel economy (questionable) or are better for the environment (patently untrue as they have a much larger environmental cost, require more energy to make, have many subsystems that are prone to failure, and other wonderful things) and feel the need to parrot this.

>>20930

Also fuck yeah tatra. 15 liter twinturbo diesel v12.

>>20918

>>20917

you bitches i don't live in the Mexican desert, i live in the jungle, no cartels on this side.

Also still no, i would buy that Merc truck rather than any of those, how i'm suppose the roll with the squad on one of those?

Plus the Merc one looks more comfortable too.

anyways

>>20886

>In what appears to be a case of miscommunication, the FIA had not been informed that Pirelli usually accepts the earlier measurement – with the tyres fully heated in their still connected blankets – as its definitive official "starting pressure."

Sure thing conspiritard.

>>20933

why do you want to be new money trash/black?

>>20933

>how i'm suppose the roll with the squad on one of those?

Mexibro promise me you will never change

COWARDS

>Mercedes board rejects proposal to supply Red Bull with F1 engines

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120704

>>20935

just saiyan.

>>20936

i will be forever myself britbro don't you worry.

>>20939

lel, honestly thank god.

All the races would be Merc and Bull 1234, i don't want to see more bulls on top for a while.

Hopefully Ferrari also rejects them and they have to go with Honda and so we can laugh at the Mclaren\Bull battles all the way on the back of the field.

>>20939

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2015/09/red-bull-teams-set-to-move-to-ferrari-power-for-2016/

ferrari to supply red bull

>>20941

>providing your worst enemy with the means to your death

just JUST FUCKING JUST FERRARI.

>>20942

Arrivabene is intelligently Machiavellian. He is lighting a fire under Ferrari's ass. It helps that it's pretty much impossible to win as a customer team since the 2000s.

I'm fucking tired of Renault's hysterics. I hope they do not purchase Lotus and just exit F1.

Haas will almost certainly be faster than sauber as they're going to run a partsbin ferrari, while it remains to be seen if sauber can develop something more than a b spec car (as they did for this year.

>>20942

If it means some actual racing to watch I'm all for it.

>>20946

Berniewheel hasn't produced actual racing since before the Mosley era.

>yfw for all the hate he gets, by contrast jean Marie balestre was a pretty okay head of the fia.

>>20947

I mean, Mosely WAS a fucking nazi…

And Jean Todt is completely useless

do you think it ever occured to ferrari that they could use one of their drivers early on to take out hamilton so that the other could win the race?

>>20949

Perhaps they're keeping this for the end of the championship, perhaps sending Kimi so Vettel can take the hip.

>>20947

concur completely

>>20948

Todt seems to only take a hard line stance on retarded issues, like when he forced these shit engines.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120718?source=mostpopular

Which of these five manufacturers will be allowed to sell engines for LMP2? Not all of them? oh, I thought you wanted to lower costs. Silly me, your controlled economy works much better.

>>20954

lel, he seems to really be pulling some punches even so.

>>20953

I guess the idea is to have all the engines at the same price instead of the better engine getting a premium. It probably won't work, because whichever company is picked will have been because of how well it goes along with the organizers, as it's always been the case in pretty much every single business transaction since the invention of them.

>>20954

Hamilton is getting worse and worse. How long until the mixtape?

>>20958

pls post your oc

>>20957

There will only be one engine sold, ostensibly at one price. There is no incentive for the manufacturer to decrease this price, or improve the engine, as there is no competition. The fia cannot into economics.

>>20960

Moreover, because 5+manufacturers bidded for the contract and had to develop engines for said proposal, the price for the manufacturer chosen will be higher as they were in competition only once (when the fia asked for proposals) thus the engine is neither the cheapest, nor the most reliable, nor the easiest to maintain, nor the most powerful.

>>20959

I was making screenshots when I BSOD'd after making a level 66 dude called "strongkorean" very mad. He must have spent 10 grand trying to be better than a level 1 with a peashooter and failed at it.

>>20960

>>20961

And the manufacturers that lose the bid will probably lose their R&D money. It's stupid.

>>20962

>And the manufacturers that lose the bid will probably lose their R&D money. It's stupid

Yeah I have a hard time believing that the FIA would refund them their development costs. Good point

>>20964

>whine about closed cockpits only now that he knows the person who died.

>>20966

>Oh shut up for 10 seconds about red pilling and enjoy life.It's only going to get worse.

Ouch. Those of us that are hard line on this issue do it for love of the sport, not to be contrarian. Jackie Stewart was a huge proponent of safety but never fucked with the DNA of the sport.

Derek Warwick lost his brother and went on his own safety crusade, but went to great pains in order not to mess up the sport or riddle tracks with chicanes.

I am sorry about the pain you are going through with Jenson being the only likable British driver on the grid and in very likely to go out with a whimper, not a bang, but I don't see why this makes him exempt.

>>20967

I'm British. We are all pessimists. It can only get worse and it always does.

Especially given that the French are in charge.

Seriously though of course it doesn't actually make him exempt. It was a bit of a silly thing to say but people do do that when they lose someone they know closely.

He was better with his statement about IndyCar at Monaco.

>>20969

>It can only get worse and it always does.

It's not being pessimistic, it's being realistic. The world is doomed and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.

>>20968

Oh and if you have suggestions, I think I can alter appearance on the second use of the char so fire away.

>>20971

>The world is doomed and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.

Don't go Sartre on me now

>>20972

philosophy major here, satre is a faggot idealist. John Searle where its at.

>>20973

>philosophy major

I would joke but I didn't even go to Uni

>>20974

i wasnt trying to insult you, its just something where im finally relevant. believe it or not, career options arent terrible.

>>20975

It's alright. The only reason I even know of Sartre is through art A-levels and a few jokes on Red Dwarf.

He is also the only french philosopher I can name off the top of my head.

I hope the job oppurtunities aren't shit, one of my friends from secondary school is doing it in Uni. Though he was a bit of a cunt.

>>20968

Also this is fucking halarious

>>20968

Well done, France

>>20971

>It's not being pessimistic, it's being realistic. The world is doomed and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.

Certain cynicism is its own kind of optimism. Like if you think of people as sheep, that makes your activism more successful because you can be a shepherd.

>>20970

Those comments (granted made in the role of brdc organizer and therefore covering ass for the British gp) are purile and I was not aware of them.

>>20968

Put him in front of a new money trash car and dye his hair. Otherwise you've made a work of art.

>>20979

>purile

Puerile. As opposed to the hand sanitizer.

Showed this to some friends who know little about f1. They were captivated. As much as I love watching it, I fucking hate Martin Brundle. Is there a version on YouTube without his irritating gumflapping?

>>20981

2011 had the fastest pole lap fyi, but fastest ever was the jaajaba in 2006. I can't find any non-brundled videos online but I'll see if the copy of the race I have shows the pole lap.

http://www.motorsportsetc.com/info/spd_mon.htm

>>20982

just in, dailymotion is a treasure trove

>what you actually asked for

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1sqcf_f1-04-r06-monaco-pole-trulli_sport

>Trulli monaco lap w/o commentary but not onboard

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15w0b9_f1-monaco-2004-jarno-trulli-renault-r24_auto

>all poles from 2004 onboard, SD

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xod8a9_f1-2004-pole-laps_auto

>Vettel pole 2011, HD

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpaq2v_f1-2011-monaco-gp-sebastian-vettel_auto

Tried to dig up 2006 but all the ITV focus is on Cheatmacher's antics in qualifying

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120728

Gene Haas says a Ferrari reserve driver will pilot one of his cars when the Formula 1 newcomer makes its debut next season

>Esteban Gutierrez

>Jean-Eric Vergne

>>20982

>>20983

Thx bro

>>20985

JEV and Grosjean would be a pretty good line-up. Gutierrez is only worth the money Carlos Slim offers for his seat.

>>20987

>Gutierrez bringing money

Gutierrez confirmed for Haas

>>20989

my mind is blown

>>20989

why do this bothers you?

has f1 reddit done something to earn your hate? have they attacked this place without being provoked or something?

>>20993

Link it to /sp/ and /o/ as well.

>>20992

Yes, they're wrong about everything, its a circle jerky shit board, and they've joined the "SENNA-SAFTEY-SAFTEY" train.

>>20994

no u

how long do strawpolls live for anyways? we could leave it up until we are confident more people see it (13 UIDs in this thread) or whenever someone from cuckchan bothers posting it

>>20996

I already linked it in /o/.

>>20997

alright, liking these results so far.

I turned on IP checking so sorry if you're at a uni or w/e, figured this board has a small enough readership

>>20998

I understand. The most likeable driver is winning hard.

>>20999

Ahahah you're not even kidding

>>20996

>(13 UIDs in this thread)

That's not 13 uids in this thread, there are 30, but if you use the last 50posts feature, its only in the last 50

>>21001

you are very right

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN0R91F820150909?irpc=932

Jackie Stewart smacks down closed cockpits.

>Triple world champion Jackie Stewart has urged Formula One to tread carefully before making any decision about introducing closed cockpits in the wake of recent race tragedies.

>The 76-year-old Scot, a famed safety campaigner who this month marked the 50th anniversary of his first grand prix win at Italy's Monza circuit, told Reuters a lot more research and development needed to be done.

>"One has got to be just a little careful that you don't run too fast before all of the research has been done because there's other types of accidents where it could be a disadvantage," he said.

>Stewart, who entered Formula One when the sport was at its deadliest and won his titles in 1969, 1971 and 1973, lost numerous friends in accidents during his career and campaigned for safety improvements including seat belts and full-face helmets.

>However, he remained unconvinced by the idea of fully enclosing the driver.

>"No, I don't think so," he said when asked whether something like that had to be done.

Also, Will Buxton and reddit "wahwahwah" cry me a river that f1 sucks dick now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/3k7rfv/life_in_technicolor_the_buxton_blog/

>>21004

When even reddit can tell you you're full of shit, that's really impressive

>>21003

Nobody will care what he has to say, unfortunately.

>>21006

Can we make a Senna Hologram (a la tupac) and have it espouse anti closed cockpit sentiment? will they believe that?

>>21007

With how dumb hamilniggers are now, they just might.

Did everyone miss this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34179239

David Coulthard comparing Hamilton to Senna and there is something wrong with Rosberg, apparently.

>>21009

seriously DC? you're better than this.

>>21010

Except he isn't. I preferred him when he was dominated by Häkkinen.

>I can completely relate to that situation, and see it with a clarity that Rosberg perhaps cannot.

>Having raced for six years as team-mate to Mika Hakkinen, I know what it is to be alongside a driver who fundamentally is just that bit faster.

what a fucking beta. When Jody Scheckter says that Gilles Villeneuve was the fastest driver he clearly says it out of respect and politeness for a dear friend, not like this beta mess. This reminds me of when Rosberg asked Massa to help him beat hamilton in abu dhabi, and massa was so aggressively beta that he rebuked the suggestion that he might do better to lose his rival the championship.

>>21012

Massa had enough team orders at Ferrari. He wanted to be free at Williams, shame everyone talks about Bottas now.

>>21012

DC has always accepted he was never as fast.

Just watch the video of him and Schumi going round montreal on a track walk

>Would you mind if I drive

>Yes

>Can I drive?

>No, still not

>Can I drive the last bit?

>Oh alright

>>21014

I never liked Jake.

>>21015

I thought he held Eddie and DC together well and could do some good intros. Better then fucking Lazenby.

Though I did like watching Bamzooki when I was younger.

>>21016

You know, this has changed my opinion of him.

>>21017

Casually gropes him.

Also, Jerome dambrosio, that's a name I haven't heard in a while.

>>21018

He was in the Formula E championship this year.

>>21018

Wish I had a Ben Kenobi GIF for that.

>>21019

Was it a totally anonymous performance like his time at virgin and lotus? I dont understand why genii capital had him in their talent management portfolio.

>>21020

Nah he won a race and got two 2nd places.

Finished 4th in the standings

>>21020

He won a race (Berlin) and finished 4th in the championship overall. A couple of second place finishes and nothing else above 4th.

>>21021

>>21020

Hang on I just remembered he only won because Di Grassi got disqualified from Berlin for an illegal car.

>>21023

Yeah, so he is still average.

Guess Andre lotterer and Thierry boutsen (maybe Bertrand gachot) are as close as the Belgians are going to get to a championship f1 driver.

>>21025

Fun fact, the sponsor that bought the caterham seat for lotterer was hype energy drink, which is owned by Bertrand gachot.

>>21026

For lotterer to casually Waltz into f1, and qualify a second faster than Ericsson was pretty wild.

>>21027

Do you really think it would be that difficult?

>>21029

What a magical driver. Clearly buying seats works wonders for the competitiveness of the sport.

It's a shame it kinda has to be this way.

>>21028

After swedecuck had a half season to dial in the car? Kind of.

Ericsson is now out performing nasr with relative regularity. So that tells you how shitty nasr is. Also nasr has the title sponsorship so you can be sure he is receiving preferential treatment.

>>21032

We love you giedo, but I'm pretty sure Bernie paid you off not monisha.

>>21031

See this is what happens when shit teams need to hire shit drivers cause they can't afford it.

>>21032

So Giedo, did you?

>>21032

>Ricardo Rosset

Nice reference. MasterCard Lola makes mclelen look good.

What's for dinner /f1/?

>>21036

A cheap curry with some leftover carrots.

We ain't got nothing in the house.

>>21036

oat, i'm on a diet.

i have oatshake for breakfast, a bit for lunch and oat milkshake for dinner.

im sad.

>>21038

>a bit for lunch

a bit of normal food, i'm so hungry i ate those words.

>>21038

i would never have guessed they even had Oats in Mexico.

Corn yeah but not Oats

>>21040

I import mine from overseas.

>>21037

Sounds nice even so. I need to get more carrots into my diet, I'm totally blind at night.

>>21038

Sounds like a brutal cutback. How's the diet working for you?

>>21042

Wasn't the whole blind thing something we invented to explain away how well we could spot the german bombers while trying to hide the fact we had radar?

Or is that part the myth?

>>21043

Carrots do help night vision, but the story that that was responsible for the British successfully locating German convoys is bs to cover up for the existence of Radar.

>>21045

but it's singapore next which means lovely singapore noodles all next week (despite the fact no one in Singapore has Singapore noodles or knows what the fuck they are)

>>21009

If Rosberg didnt get unlucky at British GP with weather, didnt get fucked by riccardo at Hungary, and didnt get given a shit engine by merc at italy, the championship would be a different story at this point.

>>21047

Would have been on pole in Austria if it weren't for the brakes doing their fucky thing

>>21047

Different, but Lauda would still be sucking Lew Lew's dick and blaming Rosberg for not letting Hamilton win the Championship.

>>21049

Do they pay him to do that? It seems very out of place from the rest of lauda's personality.

>>21046

Noodles are boring tho.

i mean i like noodles but i have never had good noodles, just instant noodle soup.

>>21050

I have no idea. I mean, Nico already knows Lewis is a bit quicker than he is, he doesn't need Niki to keep on making a big deal of it.

At least Toto keeps most of this shit to himself. Merc just need to be honest with Nico, at this point, and tell him he is the No, 2 driver as well as the fans.

>>21051

>but i have never had good noodles, just instant noodle soup.

Probably has something to do with it.

>>21050

Hamilton is the no. 1 driver. He's certainly paid to do so.

>>21053

Probably.

But noodles curious, people say "dude you gotta try this noodles!" and they put a fucking bowl with 100 ingredients and tell you those are noodles and like… nigga no , thats soup, not noodles.

But lets stop talking about food im getting hungry again.

>>21056

those look good.

>>21052

Rosberg (at least last year) has been faster in qualifying (shitting on the senna analogies) I think that he's the redheaded stepchild and team planning decisions haven't gone his way. Despite his loyalty to the team, decisions on car wheelbase and choices that had to be made for both cars were always made in schumacher's favor and appear to be made in hamilton's favor now. The Hamilton clutch change debacle, and subsequent change of rosberg's clutch as well comes to mind. Also the failure to properly prepare rosberg's car in Singapore last year was embarrassing.

>>21058

Rosberg tries so hard and then it just fails for him. It's so sad.

And he has managed to be loyal even after Ross gave them team orders in Malaysia

>>21058

I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Nico's contract that he would be No. 2. He is probably paying in a huge way for his loyalty to Merc and should maybe just leave.

>>21060

>>21058

>>21059

I think Nico needs to get out of mercedes, I think that wed see him thrive much more in a team like Lotus or even redbull.

>>21061

Agreed. If you are at a team where you are forced into this http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1/nico-rosberg-denies-claims-getting-5738904 I think it would be time to leave.

Sad really, Ferrari won't have a space for him next year and he is tied down to a "long-term contract. Although if football (soccer yuck) shows anything about those kind of deals, it's that there is always an out.

>>21061

Unfortunately lotus will probably be on a downward slide after this year due to the precarious financial situation. Redbull probably wont take a driver that is not from their young driver program. Its kind of Ferrari or bust for rosberg, but that is difficult as they dont want two German drivers.

>>21062

This is one of the things I hate most about modern f1, the grid stagnation. There are very few teams, drivers rarely move teams, once you get dropped, its for good. And there are so many teams not worth being a part of. Williams and McLaren are unprofessional in that they are catty and have feuds as well as overbearing dictators.

>>21063

That and Ferrari also have a huge erection for Bottas and possibly Ricciardo. Rosberg is probably not going to even look at Williams, they won't be able to pay him, and the Lotus team will become Renault soon.

>>21064

Yeah, there is a huge problem with the unemployment line in F1. There aren't even enough test driver positions.

>>21065

There is so little chance to test that there is no need for a test driver.

>>21066

True, the teams still run with a couple of them in some cases though.

>>21065

Bottas is starting to look pretty shitty as Felipe massa is mostly beating him. Vettel probably has no bully in the contract. Lotus Renault thing is looking less likely as lotus got maldo's 50m and Renault is looking for a stupid amount of money from FOM and to be paid as if they've been competing continuously. Its not to be forgotten that Renault has also quit f1 more than any other team.

>>21066

The real irony is that basic testing (tires, straight line aero, suspension rigging) is way cheaper to do in the factory parking lot than it is to simulate in a computer or work out in a wind tunnel.

THANKS MOSLEY

>>21069

Isn't straight line testing unlimited you just have to do it at an FIA approved testing location (airfield with no trucks with tailgate at eye height around)?

>>21070

I watched a sauber yt video where they claimed it wasn't. Also if engine testing is restricted in the chassis, how would you do a proper straight line test? The same goes if it has to be done on demonstration tires which perform differently.

Either way, the point is defeated if it has to have fia scrutineers at an approved track, because that's where the costs come from anyway. Transportation, rental costs, organization.

There's a reason teams liked to have tracks on premises or nearly so (fiorano, hethel, vallelunga)

>>21068

I was just thinking that about Vettel. The Bottas thing is aimed at the long-term, Rosberg is 30 now, Bottas is 26. Ferrari also have a Driver Academy that they can look into, unlikely but possible.

>>21070

>>21071

Testing is limited to 15,000 km, with the current car, in a year.

>>21071

I can't find it in the sporting regs as it gets mixed up with Appendix 8 which goes into how many flops you can use for CFD simulation and other shit.

I think they reduced it and that you can swap wind tunnel/CFD time for straight line testing time.

You don't have to be on a track. The FIA approve airfields for straight line testing.

>>21072

>Ferrari also have a Driver Academy that they can look into, unlikely but possible.

Marciello and the tranny are distinctly ehh. Bianchi was the first to look good in a while, but even he did not really blow anyone away until he went to marussia.

>Testing is limited to 15,000 km, with the current car, in a year.

I don't understand this. Does it have to happen at an FIA sanctioned event? because you never hear of a team doing any testing separate from the mid season and early season unified tests. Also Lotus and other teams immediately used their filming days for testing, but those require demonstration tires which are defeating half the point of testing.

>>21073

Airfield or no, you have to apply in advance for a certified site and to get a stuffed shirt with badge to watch the whole thing.

This whole set of regulations smacks of nuisance regulation. For instance, California has tried time and time again to ban handguns. For reasons other than the fact that this would be an egregious violation of the second amendment, they have been stopped from doing so. Because California cannot ban handguns, they try really hard to make it a pain in the ass to sell them in state. They mandate "drop testing" and all sorts of other tests that manufacturers do internally anyway (but must be repeated just for this one state) in order to increase time to market, cost to sell in state, and generally be a pain in the ass.

>>21074

>Marciello and the tranny are distinctly ehh. Bianchi was the first to look good in a while, but even he did not really blow anyone away until he went to marussia.

Agreed that the academy program looks meh. They haven't produced anyone who broke through into a respectable team after Perez. Now, we will never know if Bianchi was the real deal or just going to not make it.

>I don't understand this. Does it have to happen at an FIA sanctioned event? because you never hear of a team doing any testing separate from the mid season and early season unified tests. Also Lotus and other teams immediately used their filming days for testing, but those require demonstration tires which are defeating half the point of testing.

You think that's bad?

22.6 No TCC may take place:

d) On any

track located outside Europe without the agreement of the majority of teams

and the FIA.

>>21073

>>21074

It seems all testing comes under the 15,000 km limit. I could be wrong. The wording was pretty similar in the 2014 regs as well.

>i'm less than 30 points behind the #1 placed person on the F1fanatic predictions thing.

neat.

Why is Johnny Herbert a buffoon sideshow on Sky when he was a really incredibly good racing driver? He beat Mika Hakkinen at lotus, and hugely out qualified all his teammates at every other team except when he was up against schumacher. Look at his qualifying when he was at sauber, way faster than both alesi and larini.

>vid related. Also the lotus 107 and 109 were pretty good looking cars.

>>21078

What a champ.

>>21077

Better vidya.

also, 1993 was a sort of a crap season from the stand point of being the first major time they screwed the pooch with the technical regs. But this, the battle for the lead in south africa, and monza were all pretty thoroughly entertaining.

SkyF1 Midweek Report

Hosted by Pinkham, with Webber and Palmer as guests

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/f1-midweek-report/9984730/f1-midweek-report-italy

Surprisingly not geoblocked or paywalled

Was just dicking around on youtube. It occurred to me that if I've done the math correctly, Riccardo Patrese was 49 years old when he retired from f1.

>>21085

>if I've done the math correctly

1993 - 1954 = 39

:^)

>>21086

whoops too much to drink.

>>21084

unsurprisingly requiring flash malware

>>21086

>:^)

this fucking thing pissed me off so much everytime i see it.

that one and :), =) or those .

can't the world not use them please?!

:D its fucking better in every way.

my fucking autism i know i know.

>>21091

ok mexibro

:^)

>>21091

It has a different meaning to :) =) and :D

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%3A%5E)&utm_source=search-action

>>21092

#triggered

>>21091

made me think of this

I'll take it down a notch

>>21095

>tits out

>cat ears

>pretending to be trolled for attention

teehee I'm a gamer grrrrrrrl

>>21093

they are all terrible except :D.

>>21095

lol that streamer got banned from twitch so much she moved to hitbox after deleting system 32 on stream.

Starting to think that if joe saward (broken clock right twice a day) was right about grosjean going to haas, coupled with the fact that the renault deal is looking less and less likely, charles pic or jolyon palmer are looking likely for the team.

if renault doesn't buy lotus and lotus keeps merc engines and RB and STR want go to ferrari engines and haas is already going to be ferrari

does that mean that RB will have to pay off manor to take renault engines?

>>21100

it's not too late to get two mexicans

>>21100

It'll be Talladega Nights all over again

>I am from Formula Unh

>>21099

Manor will just run the outdated Ferrari engines again. Remember Merc are allowed to supply more than 3 teams, currently (Williams, Force India, Lotus and themselves) . Nobody in the FIA will vote against Ferrari and Manor, probably.

Then again they will be supplying to like six teams, with Honda not looking beyond as McLaren an engine partner. Manor will likely have to eat the shit from RB's arse.

>>21100

It sounds like he meant for lotus not Haas. Because that would explain pic's resolution with lotus, and pic does bring money.

Speaking of ricciardo patrese. The Anglocentrism of f1 (which, while worse now than it was, is not a new thing) was always pretty fucking rude to him. Patrese outqualified and out performed mansell for most of 1991 despite being a clear second in the eyes of frank Williams yet, as in this video, people talk shit.

He crushed mansell in Mexico btw.

>>21106

>also there would be no Renault customers at all?

Increasingly looking that way. Matthew Carter claims lotus can finish this season without any extra cash and that they can survive, Renault deal or no.

Dunno why there's a limit on how many teams an engine supplier can supply. That's a rule in search of a rationale.

Also who's the girl? Filename isn't displaying.

>>21105

That shit must have sucked. Imagine doing all that work and them to shit on it and say your teammate "gave it to you".

You can see he is pretty pissed of around the 30s mark.

>>21106

>>21107

Renault are looking increasingly likely to have no customer teams at the current rate. With RB and STR looking all set for Ferrari engines. Granted it would look a little funny with half the grid powered by Ferrari so that is an unlikely shout.

There have been rumors of Merc powering the Manor team as well, so that is more likely at the current rate. Of course, Merc would have to make it affordable for the Manor team and likely would have to use this years engine next year if that were to go through. It would be funny if with the Merc power they could beat the McHonda team with their "2016" engine.

The way I understand things Renault are keen to keep involved in F1 in some capacity. Therefore, it would seem likely they would have to buy Lotus in order to do so, as they are losing engine customers at an alarming rate. The Lotus deal is looking as if it is edging towards completion, from what I have read.

On the subject of engines:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34208407

BBC's Andrew Benson discusses the McLaren-Honda comedy.

>>21108

Patrese is such a gentleman, he doesn't even punch his lights out.

>>21109

Renault seems to have said that it will not purchase lotus without designation as a historic team and without continuity payments like Ferrari. Honestly it deserves neither, especially not the latter. More and more it is looking like lotus can live without the Renault deal. This is part of the reason I wouldn't be surprised to see that they've signed Charles pic. They received maldonados money, so he's staying. Renault may well have fucked up their game of musical chairs.

>>21111

Checked

Yes, although a deal is still on the cards. It is about the back-payments for the 2 championships or something. I agree it deserves neither the historic team or the continuity. They constantly bang their girlfriend without ever committing.

At least they would get rid of the Maldozer if they got in. Although, I'd miss him in a way. I mean, who is going to collect all those penalties?

>>21112

If maldonado was only more consistent (a lot more)…

>>21115

He is at least consistently crashing into things.

>>21107

>Also who's the girl? Filename isn't displaying.

Teresa Palmer who showed up GISing for Mark Webber

because there is apparently some other Mark Webber

not as good as the Ryan Newman/Ryan Newman duo but more pregnancy

>>21109

>Of course, Merc would have to make it affordable for the Manor team and likely would have to use this years engine next year if that were to go through.

from what I understand Merc charges teams the least of the three. at least it was like that in 2014

why would Manor get stuck with old spec merc engine? first I'm hearing of this

>>21117

I think I've read a fanfic of Newman/Ryry

She is 17 now so it is all fine.

>>21025

Vandoorne?

>>21118

Well, I was going by the logic that they were stuck with the old spec Ferrari engine this year. Logic would assume that they would be a year behind next year unless a huge cash injection allowed them to purchase newer engines.

All my speculation, of course.