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 No.144514 [View All]

Why are manly men so unpopular? I never see them talked about or posted.

I might be biased slightly because I only pay attention to manly men who are into other manly men. Filthy women fuckers can got eat shit and die.

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 No.144664

>>144649

Gentle giants sure, and I agree with you that the rude crude dude will not likely get far past some who really like that. But men need to have confidence, not arrogance or vain glorious pride. But a sure sense of themselves, who they are, and what they want. That can be hard to get across in text format. Hell it's hard to get across in person.

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 No.144665

>>144629

Excuse me? Best dad Endeavor only wanted the best for his boy Shoto. He made sure he got only the strongest Quirk.

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 No.144671

As promised follows. My new man.

Going to post him in the profile thread as well, any feedback you guys might have would be appreciated. Hell, tear the profile to bits if it will help make a better character.

https://www.f-list.net/c/benjamin%20richter

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 No.144676

>>144664

>But a sure sense of themselves, who they are, and what they want. That can be hard to get across in text format. Hell it's hard to get across in person.

That's about the gist of the problem. Most people can't even fake confidence, let alone play it for typefucking, so instead they just dial up the aggressive attitude as a poor substitute.

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 No.144677

>>144676

Most people don't even know what confidence [i]is[/i]. At its core, it’s a matter of just not giving a shit. Not reacting to bullshit. I tried all the bogus self-help crap; it’s worthless. Then I started breathing slow and meditating two hours a day, and everything slides off my skin like oil. There’s just no reaction, not even at a visceral level.

It’s impossible to convey in RP unless both players are highly proficient writers, with a keen eye for subtle cues. The way the eyes move, the way the shoulders shrug, the way the hips tilt; it’s all body language. "Unmoved, the confident, unflappable manly-man felt nothing at the rejection" is the definition of half-assed, stupid writing. It’s a show-not-tell kind of thing.

I blame this on society—marketing and advertisement people bombard us with commercials and ads designed to inculcate a sense of anxiety, all so they can swing open the door and wave you by hand into the soothing bliss of an impulse purchase. Since nobody can afford (or survive) buying everything they get advertised, the anxiety stays and simmers and seethes and waits until you finally see a pretty girl so it can boil over and turn you into a stuttering, incoherent mess.

That's where all the manly men have gone, and F-list has shit to do with it.

Doesn’t help that most of us are societal refuse; the lowest of the low on the hierarchal ladder. Doesn’t really inspire much confidence.

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 No.144678

>>144677

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's not giving a shit but rather it means you're simply unphased by things that other people freak out about. Did you go up and ask that pretty girl out and she turned you down? Oh well, that's her loss. Grab a drink and chat up someone else at the bar, show her that her rejection does not phase you, even if deep down it does.

Learning to breath and just let things go is a great way to do it. And you're right about the difficulty there is in getting that confidence across in a text based setting. What I have found, to be quite honest, is when pink profiles are looking for a dominate blue, they simply mean "I want a male character who knows what the FUCK he wants and isn't afraid to take it without being an asshole about it."

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 No.144685

>>144514

Because they are never just "a guy". They are a manly man first and over everything else like this retard >>144671

Bara fucks are always either heroes or daddies or gladiators or the perfect DILF. They are adonises without flaw outside token "sensible guy" quirks, they play romeo or try to flex nuts and muscle their way into conversation or even worse between another guy and a woman. They are a walking caricature and it's as eye-rolling as BBC niggas and shit.

If you wrote about just a guy, any fucking guy with like an actual personality and hobbies and things that go beyond starting with describing your looks, AND they had a body like that? They would drown in pussy. Apparently this is too hard to do for the vast majority of bara guys though.

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 No.144686

>>144677

>Doesn’t help that most of us are societal refuse; the lowest of the low on the hierarchal ladder. Doesn’t really inspire much confidence.

So are the pinks in a lot of cases. I think some people expect too much. But it is a place to look for fantasies.

I'm not sure I'd say it's about confidence, exactly.

"In secret, she is simultaneously struggling with three torments — trying to get rid of a dreary dragging affair with a married man, whom she pities; trying to nip in the bud — in the sticky red bud — a crazy adventure with an attractive young fool, whom she pities even more; and trying to keep intact the love of the only man who is all her life and who is above pity, above the poverty of her feminine pity, because as the script says, his ego is richer and prouder than anything those two poor worms could imagine."

More than confidence, I think, are you above pity?

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 No.144689

>>144649

Boom. I want a daddy type rather than a 'man' when I'm looking for males, because the latter almost always ends up being a shemale bitchbreaker without titties.

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 No.144694

>>144649

>Gentle giants

Hell no.

People want a few things, none of them come close to that. Most people like the guys dumb, like super fucking dumb and beefy. Others want them super dominant, but the key with this one is that they have to be hot and well put together which most aren't. However people like Cocky, if you can play cocky right you're golden.

>>144651

>Anything to do with women

>Manly

Heterosexuality is the antithesis of manly.

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 No.144695

>>144694

>Himbos

literally the shittest taste around you might as well fuck Fai or a random dimitrys profile

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 No.144696

>>144695

Himbo tops are a rarity. Make a dominant dumb frat guy and you'll be rolling in it.

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 No.144698

>>144685

Well, that's an interesting opinion you have of me there guy.

Care to pick things apart a little bit more? Like hell if I'm trying to please anyone, but you went for a quick against me so I'm curious as to what it is about my character that makes me a retard?

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 No.144723

>>144698

not him and I don't think you're a retard but if you want some feedback–

there isn't much about your character that distinguishes him from other characters. He fills many roles so there's not much specific about him. He is bland and vague and there is nothing that makes him interesting.

If that works for you and you get plays you enjoy that way, then that's perfect and I'm happy for you (really!) but what you have won't be attractive to a lot of people. For reference, I'm a pink and I'm always looking for straight masculine blues to play with. I would skip the character over because he comes across as someone that you haven't put a lot of time and thought into.

I would recommend picking one of the roles for him in the dropdown and focusing the profile on it, giving him a backstory and more details to make him seem like more of a complete person.

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 No.144726

>>144694

>>144695

>>144696

Interesting. I always thought the un-distaff (bo staff?) equivalent of bimbo was "menbo," but perhaps that’s the plural form.

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 No.144737

>>144723

Appreciate the feedback. I've been rolling the question around in my mind "is this a compelling character" He's a fresh faced one, so things are bound to change both as I think about him more, and as I play him more.

Again, thanks for the input.

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 No.144759

>>144696

>Make a dominant dumb frat guy and you'll be rolling in it.

surprisingly true, but beware it attracts the absolute worst type of clingers

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 No.144767

>>144737

Try giving him a really good trait, a really good skill, a really bad trait, and something he is terrible at.

I think you could expand on the idea of human supremacy with him, and how that could complicate a lot of things and if he is willing to be convinced out of his beliefs. You have abuse as a no, so I'm curious how the character would react to something like a nice elf girl crying because she had a crush on him and then finding out that he thinks she will never be as good as a human girl. How does he feel about what that would do to her self-esteem, for instance? Or how would he would react to seeing a fellow human man tormenting some nonhuman girl for being inferior in the streets?

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 No.144769

>>144767

That's some good advice and some things I'll be working into him, about to rework the profile now. I generally like to ask questions about my character, or to them-if that makes any sense. Based on what >>144723 said I've decided to go with the explorer role I have on the profile and expand that. I think there are a lot of good story hooks that can work for almost any genre setting.

So that brings up, why is he an explorer in the first place? Where did that pioneer spirit come from? and so on. I've been thinking on expanding on that human supremacy bit, maybe even tossing in a bit of racism. As he's traveled he's seen what other species or cultures can do, but damn if humans just don't get shit done, which leads him to that bit of thinking.

As to how he would react to your situation, he's actually feel shame that she would feel way, I mean, sure she's a knife ear, but that doesn't mean she's worthless, or even without any merit in his eyes. Which would be something interesting to work with, and seeing someone just tormenting someone non-human goes against his personal ethics. He may see humans as superior, but knows they're flawed and he has no desire to be cruel or malicious to non-humans. So he'd step in to put a stop to that.

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 No.144823

>>144759

Making a popular character is easy. Finding a good RP is hard.

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 No.155527

I despise both baras and femboys. I'm sick of how society has completely schismed on this front, YOU MUST EITHER BE THE ARCHETYPE OF FEMININITY OR A GREEK GOD

What happened to, you know, average guys? Bit of toning in the core? Not a man beast covered in hair, but not a prissy epilated slut either?

I think they all died out because you retards want your borderline archetypes. No celebration of the common man anymore. Even as he becomes very much uncommon in this world where you must either be a tranny or the most masculine man to ever exist.

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 No.197857

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>>144514

If you think that's hard, try being a power-bottom shemale that's only in to muscular males. (PS: 90% of the decent muscular males are all gay.)

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 No.197859

>>197857

Bodybuilders are generally gay, so yeah

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 No.197885

>>197857

Try being a straight shemale period.

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 No.197905

>>197857

What's your opinion in manly furries? Maybe of the scaly variety?

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 No.197906

>>197905

go home tempest

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 No.197907

>>197906

Literally who

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 No.197909

>>197907

>it's not him

/erp/ is saved

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 No.197913

>>197909

Man I just want to fuck the dyke out of her, It's just that I'm often much better with fit furries/monsters than with manly humans

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 No.197916

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 No.197919

>>197913

That's actually a patrician-tier fetish. Shame that I can only find purples who want to fuck my straight girls and never the inverse.

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 No.197920

>>197919

I mean if you are interested I have this and some others, even monsters for superhero play if you are into that. Drop me a note and we can arrange something!

https://www.f-list.net/c/krok%20swamp/

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 No.197921

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>tfw making manly male

>completely capable of writing pinks and purples but when it's time to make a dude I just lock up

Does something like this happen to you as well, anon? I have no fucking idea.

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 No.197997

>>144514

Most people on F-List are dudes, and most dudes are not hard gay.

It's immensely easy to go soft gay for things that have femininity like femboys and futas.

This also goes for most female characters, as most female characters are also played by guys.

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 No.198008

>>197905

I have a preference for them actually.

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 No.198055

>>144677 pretty much hit one of the points I wanted to make, though I'd also expand it to them applying the amped up aggression to OOC too, which when coupled with the usual blue-name tropes (shotgun approaches that don't bother to read profiles, half-assed or empty profiles, 3DPD 'just pictures of women sucking dicks' or random ass male models that have nothing to do with the character concept, etc.) can be… Very grating even for someone who WANTS to fuck big beefy dudes.

And if they're not that they're flakes that either expect you to do all the work or fold the moment their partner shows a hint of initiative beyond "getting on knees and throating cock". Or they're WAY too into hirsute and bodystank and aggressively push their FUCK MUSK on the same level as goddamn btichbreaker purples.

Or they're omni-skilled yet generic as fuck marty stu self-insert 'badasses'. Almost always gruff mercenaries/bandits/god kings who give no fucks and have nothing left to lose and "look how fucking edgy and hard I am fuck", 'equipment load-out' lists optional. (Bonus points for the ones that go "BEHOLD MY WALL OF WHORES, DOES IT NOT SLICK YOUR BRITCHES?" and then turn around and go "w-well I didn't want to play anyway, you presumptuous twat." when you tell them you aren't interested, like, what were you even trying to accomplish then?)

Or most obnoxiously they're either AGGRESSIVELY gay and can't just leave it at "I like taking it and giving it in the butt" but have to slag off pinks/purples/femboys as gross like they're still goddamn 12 and afraid of cooties.(Or as an extension they're straight but blame LESBIANS and WORSTGENDERS for not getting any play… When they basically just make themselves look like a tool shouting about that stuff unprompted out in the open or in response to two girls doing room play together, because how dare.)

Hell sometimes (most of the time even) they're a mix of all these things.

Basically, even for someone like me who big buff dudes and the feeling of powerlessness at being pinned the fuck down by someone bigger and stronger than them… There's just SO MUCH there that gets in the way of actually enjoying it and it frustrates me to no end.

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 No.198068

>>144649

Gentleness isn't really all that popular. People mostly want good dominants, especially the kind that's in-charge, rough and imposing but still realistic and approachable (which is where "gentle giant" might come in).

>>155527

You need to go outside.

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 No.199161

>>197921

Playing females is easier, since they are much less mentally complex.

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 No.199840

>>197885

My main character is still pretty straight, she just prefers the traditional roles, female on the bottom, male up top. Even if she's still in charge. (Sometimes.)

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 No.200927

>>197857

This is my shit. Post profile fam.

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 No.201468

>>200927

You first

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 No.201520

If you think finding manly men is hard try finding manly straight men

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 No.201557

>>201520

I've seen so many 'daddy' blues recently, I really hope you're omitting those.

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 No.201622

>>201557

I assume that poster is ignoring those guys. I do too because they are almost always shitters.

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 No.201700

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 No.239641

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 No.264006

>>201557

>>201622

Depends, are they "Daddies" that are just obese fat guys using the same 20 or so references of overweight guys plowing various women or genuine, honest to god characters? I don't count the former.

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 No.264082

>>201520

>>201557

>>201622

I've got some manly straight/bi dudes. Where's some good sources for more art though?

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 No.264229

>>264006

in this particular case I was complaining about a mix of boring gross fat guys and soulless anime guys in their 20s

in both cases there is no character whatsoever, just kinks and lame art

>>264082

pinterest and artstation have a wealth of good shit

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 No.267841

File: 30835215f72c760⋯.jpg (100.29 KB,1200x675,16:9,530a67_6772307.jpg)

>tfw no manly man chubby dilf of a trucker to abuse you at every point from a to b

why even live

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